Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Playboy Twins on Life Inside the Playboy Bunny Bubble

Episode Date: July 14, 2025

Playboy Mansion parties were a dream for ‘Playboy Twins’ Kristina and Karissa Shannon, until it became a reality. Hear how they were recruited by Hugh Hefner as teenage twins.  Plus, the heartbreaking backstory of being abandoned as babies, the father who helped sign them up for Playboy, and the downright dark side of being a bunny. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling

Revely. No, no. Sibling Reifery. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Revelry. That's good. It's Oliver Hudson here on the podcast, Sibling Revely.

And I'd like to introduce my guests today, Oliver Hudson. Hey, Oliver, how are you? I'm good. Thanks for having me on. Yeah, no, of course. I'm really interested in your sort of career and growing up with your family. Yeah, no, we can talk about that. Okay, great.

I thought you were going to shy away from that. No, no, no. I love my family. I respect my family. Yeah, go ahead. Shoot. Okay, I'll start with the first question. What does it feel like to be the least successful family member?

Wow. So you're just going to go right there. Well, yeah. I mean, you talk about it, you know, in the press a lot. No, I know. Well, it just is what it is. You know what? I don't want to do this podcast anymore.

I don't really feel like talking to you, Oliver. Okay, that's fine. That's your prerogative. That was a little therapy session between me and myself. Let's bring on our guest, Christina and Carissa Shannon. Yeah, so this is Christina. I'm Carissa. Oh, my God.

There's no fucking world where anyone's going to be able to decipher who you do. We don't even have makeup on either. Usually we have makeup on and we look like freaking clones. Yeah, I mean, I have a little beauty mark where you like to see it right here.

Oh, that's it. That's it. That's it. That's the only thing that differentiates you. Wow. Well, thanks for coming on. Where are you guys? Where are you living?

We're in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Oh, wow. Yeah. I know. Cool. We escape. L.A. as much as we could. No, I bet. I mean, you had a bit of a whirlwind here, didn't you? Yeah, absolutely, for sure. Let's start early on. Like, where did you guys grow up?

Okay, so we were born here in Ann Arbor. Okay. Like, our family had a farm in here and how old Michigan and stuff, and our dad was 19, our mom was 16. Wow. Yeah, yeah. So our dad's mom, or Italian grandmother adopted us from birth. So she raised us. We didn't even know she wasn't our mom until we were 12. We thought she was our mom. Yeah. And then so, but when we were younger, they sold the farm.

We moved to Florida, raised in Florida. Like three months old. Uh-huh. You were, wait, hold on. You were moved to Florida with your grandmother? Mm-hmm. She sold the farm in Howell in Michigan, yep. And then what, and your mom and your dad, did they just disappear?

Oh, yeah. They were just like a high school sweetheart. I think. So our biological mother. Our biological mom left us in our car seats at the end of a driveway, like at our farm and how old we had a long driveway. Long, like, twisted driveway. And she left us in our car seats at the end of the driveway.

So when my dad came home, he was like 19 from his job at the time. Job at the time. He sell us at the end of the driveway and brought us like from our car seats back to his mother, our grandma. And she's like, I'll adopt them. I'll raise them. He's like, I'll raise them. I'll take care of them.

Yeah. Wow. wait so when your mom left you at the end of the driveway did she bail that she was like I'm leaving this I'm out yeah and the crazy thing was

is we were three months premature so both of our lungs weren't fully developed and so we weren't breathing like when we were born so we like well it was the 80s so like they were going to like concerts it was 89 so like they were concerts and she was our biological mom was still drinking and

doing other stuff so and we were three months premature because of that. When we were born, we were in NICU for three months. Wow. Wow. Three months where they didn't have, no one came and visited or anything like that. But when we got out of the hospital, that's when our biological mom left us at the end of the driveway.

And our, no, no, we call her our... In Italian, it means grandma. Yeah. No, I know, I know. She raised us and she was like, oh, my God, these platinum blonde twins. Oh, there we go. Okay.

He gets it. Wow, and then you knew your dad But your dad was 19 and was like I can't do this like He was never really ready to be a father So like if we could fast forward to now He's like a friend Not even a friend

Yeah Not even a friend like growing up he was a friend Like the friendship kind of relationship Like he would smoke at us or drink with us We went 10 years like almost eight Nine years without talking to him and then he, we said, okay, he called us from jail and was like, I'm so sorry for everything I've done

like you guys growing up, I wasn't there, all that stuff. And then he was like, I promise I'll do therapy because our thing was, is like, if you do therapy or like, show you've changed or like evolved. Because we've dealt with a lot of physical abuse. Yeah. So he's like, oh, I'll go to a Catholic priest and I'll do therapy when I get out of jail.

So he got out of jail, is on probation currently. and just same shit show. So we're basically all of our lives we've had as each other. And Nona. Yes. I mean, did Nona raise you well? You know what I mean? Yes, she did.

She did. We're so blessed to have her. And that's why like when Playboy came along, that was our way to give back to her and our way because we didn't like, you know, graduate or go to college or anything like that. So like, for us when we hit Playboy, that was like hitting the lottery for us. Because we had to drop out of school to work at 15. and um because we had to make our own money we come from a small poor italian family they're from

abruzzi idli um so yeah it was just her like her our grandfather that she was married to had passed away from throat and lung cancer so she was left in debt and so she was just it was just her yeah and then so we basically had to like take care of we kind of like stepped in and started taking care of things but with us being twins it's always been this gimmick since we're born since we were born it's like this gimmick where it's like the twin commercial thing or they want to They just want to cast us for basically everything. Yeah. And we were very all-American, like the blonde hair, blue eyes.

We're the tall and we're twins. So it was like the doublement. Like back in our day, it was like the doublement twins, we were or the Olson twins we were compared to. Right. So it was working for us. What did you, but what did you do at 15 for work when you were trying to sort of support yourselves, you know? So we got like odd jobs here and there until we started working at this place.

So it's kind of like hooters, but it's called wing house. It's called wing house. Okay. So if you put into Hooters, they like, it's wings, the dolphin shorts, the Dolphin shorts. Right. In the tights. In Florida. We used to, like, stuff our bras with, like, socks.

So we were two pet of bras. We put a bunch of socks in the bras because we always wanted to look like the older girls who have boobs. Yeah. And so I remember because we couldn't serve alcohol to her 18, so we were like 15. As hostesses, like opening the door. We just started as hostesses as opening the door together. And doing, like, billboards, commercials, menus. Like, everything.

So we started modeling men at 15. Mm-hmm. And then we realized like modeling and then modeling was like our first thing and then commercials. It's like, okay, we have an in here. This is our nick, like our niche, like what we need to do. Yeah. So then how did you sort of move 15, supporting yourselves, you know, doing a host gig, sort of a hooters vibe, right?

And then how did it evolve from there? The girls at the winghouse were actually doing like calendars. Well, so there was a whole calendar that we sold at that restaurant, and so that was the first centerfold we ever did. But the girls were also testing for Playboy that were there. So they were all testing to become a Playboy, because all we knew was that you get $25,000. Yep, $25,000 to become a Playmate. To become a Playboy Playmate. Which is 50 for us.

So we get our own. Right. And then if you become Pimoy, playmate of the year, then you get a car as well. And like all these promised, like, promotion. And they've come, they came into your town to look, to find. I mean... Oh, no, no, no. So we were actually fans of the Girls Next Door show on...

Got it. We were fans of them. How old were you at this time? 15. Yeah. 15. 15, 16. From 15 to 18, we were like, love the girls next door.

Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah. And we would just watch them and like... Crazy thing is, is we really didn't even know who Hefner really was. We really didn't know it was we were really fans of the girls. We really were in just like the house and the whole like the portrayed lifestyle. Yeah. And so, like, we decided, like, after doing, like, commercials and billboards and menus and all that were, like, that photographer they used, were like, hey, do test shoot for us to send in the Playboy because he's doing it to a bunch of other girls. And did it for us.

We overnighted it. And we actually got a call back, like, two days later, not even. And it was like, hey, we're going to send you guys out for a test shoot in Miami. Wow. Long story. Let me say the crazy thing. The only way we were able to pay for this test shoot is because Carissa got hit by a drunk driver when she was sick. The only money we got, we paid for the Playboy shoot, like the test shoot to get in, and we actually caught in.

Wow. We were 17 when we submitted the photos to Playboy. Yeah. So our biological dad had to come down and sign a paperwork and stuff like that. Really? He didn't care, like, you know. He was a fan of Playboy. He's a fan.

Like we said, he wasn't a father. He was more of a friend. Yeah, yeah, got it. Got it. So he, he, guardianship, he consented that it was everything. Right. Right. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So you did the photo shoot. You sent it in. What was that like going to Miami? Was it like, oh, my God. I mean, it must have been exciting. We were under 21 and we have heard all about Miami. I mean, we never even been to Miami. We lived in Florida. We never even been to Disney. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love. love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like

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as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin, so like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.

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This is in regards to the death of Colleen Slimmer. She started going off on me, and I hit her. I just hate her, I'm hit her, and hit her, and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista.

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we were wild. We were wild. So much energy, like bouncing off the walls. Like, for ADHD, so we're naturally hyper, super hyper. Yeah. And you can't find out, like, we're not boring at all. Like, we were bouncing off the walls and some people could call us obnoxious on us. You've been called obnoxious. We're exhausting. Yeah. I'm sorry, but what it is. We've been called exhausted.

That's funny. We always knew from a young age my non-no used to say, like, you guys are going to be models. Like, I could see your name and, what was it, like, Starry Lights. Like, Shannon went. And, you know, it was just, oh, she always kind of pushed us like, oh, you guys can be models and stuff. And so we always thought Victoria's Secret models, we always looked up to the Victoria's Secret girl. We were tall enough. Yeah.

or five, nine. Yeah. Very petite. So we were like, Victoria's secret. But we're working at Winghouse, Playboy happened to be the, like, the thing that you would just, like,

do a test shoot for. It was kind of, like, easy to submit, kind of more. It's easier to get into. So then you go to Miami and it's fun. I mean, you're like, holy shit, here we are. Yeah.

Well, we were shocked that they even, like, because they, so we sent our test shoot photos in. The fact that we even got booked to do a Miami shoot for us was like, oh my gosh, They're flying us out to Miami for some huge shoot. And it was actually the first time, like, we've ever had professional hair and makeup. Yeah.

Because we didn't wear makeup. Never done makeup. Like, we don't have a young mom or no-no-raises. So, like, she's not doing makeup or, like, the only blondes in our family. So, like, it's a whole different glam type for us. And we had her hair and makeup done and actually saw the test shoot photos. We're like, oh, my gosh, we are pretty. We didn't even think we were like.

Like, when you go into a photo shoot and, you know, they take the pictures. And you can see on the big monitor, like, your photo. And you're like, holy shit. Yeah. Oh, my God. we are pretty yeah did you do everything together or did you everything do separate did you do singles as well together together so everything was always together but okay so the test shoot went down it went well and then how does it progress so we go to miami we do this test shoot and then as we're through

like halfway through at lunchtime like we take a break and they're like we're sending these pictures to heff and holly madison and they're saying like they love the photos and you guys we don't want to say anything permanent, but basically they're saying you made it in. Like giving us like, you know, we got, you guys got the job. Like, we were like, oh, we got play, boy, play me. Like, oh, my goodness. So, and then Yarmel was our photographer at the time, and he had shot a lot of really big. But it was like a very big, like, it was

really successful for our test shoot, but then we had to go back to like the normalcy of like working at the winghouse and telling everyone about the test shoot. Yeah, so we go back to work. All of our customers, I swear, we're like, because we used to work these, these sections, like the twins, like the doublement twins and all sense is all we had to, like grow up on to like look forward to and we're like stuffing our boobs and they're like oh you guys can't make it you don't have fake boobs you're not old enough blah blah blah and it's like we actually

made it in we're like yeah we made Playboy yeah so we got playboy it was like a huge life-changing thing for us so we got a call and I think we were actually at work we were working like a double shifts we were working double shifts it was 2008 2008 and it was like the recession so like girls from the waitresses were not going home with any money like so we were working doubles and I remember remember we got a call and it was like you guys we went to come out to California and shoot for 55th anniversary and shoot for which was their feeling my reality show so it's like yeah on top of like you're shooting a centerfold you're also shooting reality TV which at the time for us in 2008 the only thing on reality TV for e-network was the real world and then the Kardashians like that that was

all that was on e like reality TV was just coming up for us so um I feel like real stars when we came into it started getting treated like actors like we were treated like actors yeah it was like it was crazy so then you go but you go to l.a and then are you now going back to florida or are you like permanently moved to l.a so when we moved into the so we moved into the playboy mansion after so like after the test shoot yeah we we we went home so no we went to shoot 55th anniversary yeah so after the test shoot in miami they were like do you want to come out they invited us out to stay at the playmate house or the mansion They're shooting the 50th anniversary

Like this whole segment they were doing on the 55th anniversary playmate So they went on shoot it even though we knew We were already going to be playmates They were to act like we didn't know Like 50th anniversary search So there was like a ton of girls and we had to go out And compete

We acted like we didn't know but we all And so yeah so we went out And we went to the Playboy Mansion for the first time And Heff was showing us like so much favoritism So at the mansion Have you been to the Playboy Mansion? Yeah I've been to many parties I've been to the Halloween party

and midsummer's night I've been to the New Year's but I've been back in the day So like the Friday, Saturday, Sundays is like movie nights and dinner nights and friends nights And so there was this one big party It was the midsummer's night dream party

That was like our last night there And then we went to the mansion We went to shoot for the show Do the 55th anniversary show And then we also shot our centerfold So we had done all our work We had done all our work And then there was just the party, Mid-Summer Night's Dream Party, that was last, like, right before we were getting ready to fly back home.

And Heph, like, we were supposed to fly back actually home before that party, but Huff asked us to stay. It was like, stay for this party. You guys will love it. Mind you, we're only 18, not 21. And all the girls were being mean to us, because they're all in their mid-20s at least with, like, fake boob jobs. We don't even know how, like, I don't even own eyeliner. Like, we don't know what we're doing. We're trying to keep up.

You know what I mean? Yeah. We really were just ourselves on the Girls Next Door Show and, you know, Heth really showed favoritism towards us and the other girls got jealous. Well, thank God we have each other. The problem was when we got there, we didn't realize that Holly Bridget and Kendra had already been in a contract with the girls next door. So they were finishing up their contracts even though they were broken up with Hep. Like five seasons they had. They had already been broken up with Hep so they were just finishing out to the contract for girls next door.

So, you know, Kendra had already been a relationship. relationship with Hank Baskett. She was already like pregnant. She was already in our relationship with Chris Angel. Bridget was already doing sexiest speeches. They all had something going on. They were all leaving. And so timing was perfect when we had came in to. And it instantly just turned into TV as soon as we moved in. Yeah. But what is it, but what does it even mean to date half? I mean, I mean, you know, because the typical word of when you're dating someone, you're you're hanging out with them, you're courting them, you're sleeping together, you're enjoying each other's company, you're laughing, you're this, I mean, you're dating someone, you know,

and dating someone implies you can date other people, you're not exclusive, it's dating, but when you're like, oh, Huff wants to date you, I don't know how it goes down, you're like, okay, cool, like, what does that mean? So after the midsummer's dream party when we were shooting at the Playboy Mansion, we went home, we flew home, told no all about it and everything like that, and then all of a sudden like a week and a half later we get a letter with like the playboy stamp no have started calling oh he called first yeah so he's first started calling us when we went home and he was like calling because he only had both of our numbers and he just kept blowing us up leaving voicemails and stuff

and we were like kind of on the fence of whether we wanted to get into this or not and um then he sent the letter because it was like the original playboy stamp so yeah it had been like a week or two of calls and then he had sent a letter and was like officially can you move in, be my girlfriend. And if not, live at the Playmate House. If you don't want to be a girlfriend and move in, like, can you live at the Playmate House? But we want to, we want you on our show, the girls next door and stuff like that. So he invited us to come in, move into the mansion, do the show.

But we thought as like girlfriends, when he sent that letter, we were like, oh, that means, like, what we're watching on Girls Next Door, we've been fans of, like, oh, we used to look up to Holly Bridgett and Kendra. Yeah, like, they run around and, like, you know, Holly became this, like, basically a producer of Playboy Center. and like designing or she was working in like um so we figured they all had their own designing on yeah so we didn't think that the girls were actually like hooking up with it we didn't think it was a real romantic relationship we didn't think you have to get it up we

didn't think he was really having sex he's like in his 80s we didn't even really realize like who he was because in 2008 you know we were young too we didn't barely we just show playboy and then the show and I guess when you're that when you're when you're young or when you're sort of excited to go be a part of something that is different and it's going to make you some money give you exposure and all of that. Right, right. You don't ask the questions or did you, or was it like, okay, wait a minute, what does this mean? When we got on the plane and we're flying out and we accepted everything, we're like, are we going

to have sex with him? Like, what if the girls really have sex with them? We just started thinking about it. And then we were like, well, we can't go back home. We said, well, we already quit our job at Winghouse. We had already grabbed. Stuff in the brawes. All the girls were going to shoot Playboy.

Like, you know, and we can't turn back now. We were just headed to kill us. California, never been to California. And so we were just like, we're already on our way. Let's just go see where this takes us. We're smart girls. Like, thank God we are siblings. Like, we are very lucky.

We're blessed because we do have each other where like other girls are probably flown out and they're on their own and they don't know what's going on. Like, probably on their own when it happened or, you know, Bridget or Kendra. But for us, we actually had each other. So we're so lucky to be blessed to be able to like work with each other throughout our whole career and have each other. So when you get there and they say, well, here are the rules, like, do they explain to you? Like, here's what do you have to do to be a girlfriend?

It took a minute for have to be like, oh, this is what it is. They kind of were like schmoozing us. They were like kissing our bots and like just kind of giving us all like the benefits of being there. We were living at the Playmate House. So when we first got there, we didn't move straight into the Playboy Mansion. We went to the Playmate House, which was across the street. Like Aaron Spelling literally lived the house next door. So I was like, the Playboy Mansion, then there was the bunny house right across the street,

and then Aaron Spelling's house there, and then it was just, Jimmy I, Jimmy had a great year of hood. So it was like, it was walk across the street. And so, yeah, it was just like he had us right across the street. And so we were there like three nights. And, you know, he just kept up. Our 19th birthday was coming up. Our 19th birthday was coming up.

And he had invited us out to dinner on a club. We're getting in a limo. We're going with all these playmates. We're going with, you know, the girls next door that were famous at the time. For us, this was like the first time we've actually been celebrated as like, you guys are gorgeous. Like, like, for us, this was like the first time we're out in Hollywood, you're going out. It doesn't matter. Was it exciting? Was it so fun? So here's the thing. We honestly, to be honest, we are such big fans of that movie, almost famous.

Great movie. We grew up to that. Yeah. So like that was like, we've always looked up to those. So for us, we're like, we're in the industry where it's all happening. There was like a ton of opportunities. It wasn't just Playboy for us. We were like, maybe Victoria's, Secret or maybe we got into a movie right of way like for us the first year we were there we got into Sophia Coppola's movie somewhere starting so like we got into movies right away like it wasn't just reality but Victoria's Secret they turned us down and they're like since you did Playboy you can't do Victoria's Secret that was like boxes on there is like and then we realized we're

in the X-rated industry like soon as we I guess we did Playboy that was like boom check you can't do anything like classier than last year I mean like Victoria's secret or more mainstream, I guess. Right. Okay, so wait, you're at the clubs, you're in L.A. You're feeling it. It's fun. You get to, you're dressing cool, you feel sexy.

It's all, it's all happening. Yeah, it's all happening. It's all happening. And what about, what about boys? Like, are you allowed to date boys? Are you allowed to sort of, you know what I mean? Like, how do you experience relationships or sex or having fun? So, like we said, he did, when we moved,

didn't he didn't give us the rules but we just got yelled at and we did wrong the longer we were there the more he would be like well this is off limits this is off limits you know so um 9 o'clock curfew unless you're out with him you had a 9 p.m. Friday Saturday and Sunday it was 5 p.m. curfew because dinner started at 5 Friday, Saturday we did old school movies Sundays were movies that were in theaters in silent films so we could in silent films so we could see a movie that was in theaters now and seen yet like it was pretty cool so but like since we Saturday, Saturday and Sunday, 5 o'clock was a curfew, 9 o'clock was every other day. But, like, no, he never said no boys, but you're not allowed no boys, because when we first started filming the movie for Sophia Coppola starring, was it somewhere?

Yeah. Christina and Steven Dorf very clicked. So, yeah, we played a love, we had a love interest, and Heth had found out, and he had read the script before us. Before we even knew we had a movie opportunity, he came in and read the script and said, oh, it's Fred Ders. And it really wasn't for a kissing scene. And I'm like, okay, are you telling me? No, I'm not allowed to do this or what? Because he's coming and giving us the news.

Like, he's giving us this. And it's not the coming. Yeah. But anyways, it happened to be Stephen Dorf and we had to audition three times. And we go to Sophia for three times. And then Sophia Copla, actually, we're so shocked because we're Italian. She's Italian. She's Italian.

And we're fans of her dad who did The Godfather. So we're like, oh my gosh, Sophia Copla actually showed up to film a girl's Next Door episode, which is reality TV. On our show. On our show at the Playboy Mansion. That's cool. Gosh, this is like this is awesome. Big to us. Yeah. She actually came there and watched

us rehearse. We had two dance routines in the movie on top of the other stuff, but she wanted to come sit. But long story short, so Stephen Dorff, like his mother had passed away right before, like, or right as that movie was being shot. So Sophia was a really good friend of ours, and she was kind of telling us, go to Stephen's house. Go to

Stephen's house. He's got a bar. He's lonely. Like, his mom just passed away. Like, you girls need to be actors. Get out of this reality TV industry. She's like, don't get any surgery. Don't get your boobs done. Right. She was like, come to Italy. We'll put more spots of you in the movie. She's like, we're going to

Rome. You have Benazzo del Toro and everything in the movie. She's like, come to Rome, we'll give you a bigger role. Like, she wanted to put us more in the movie. So we're like, we figured out, okay, we want to do acting. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that

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What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke But that really was my reality nine years ago I just normally do straight stand-up But this is a bit different On stage stood a comedian With a story that no one expected to hear

Well 22nd of July 2015 A 23 year old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage.

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At what point, or did it get to be sort of suffocating, where you're like, you know what? Like, I don't want to fucking come home at 5 p.m. I don't want to come home at 9 p.m. I'm a young girl in Hollywood. I'm young girls in Hollywood. Like, I want to go live my life. Like, I don't like this anymore. When did it get to that point? We really, at the bottom of my mind, we're like, we just want to take care of our Nona, like, she deserves us, we want to take care of our family. We can't go home and we, like, broke again. Yeah.

So they were, like, getting in movies, and then after the movie, it became a Deloreal France commercials and it was a guitar hero five. Like, we were getting offered so much stuff that the mansion started holding us back. We didn't even know what SAG was the screen. Yeah, we didn't know what SAG was. And they're like, no, you guys are like straight in. Sophia got you guys straight into the Screen Actors Guild. so it was good because we were getting paid well.

So it was like once we got the sag, they were making sure we got paid well. Hugh Hefner wasn't making sure we got paid well. He was taking most of our money and only giving us $1,000 every Friday in cash. Really? So a thousand per girlfriend every Friday in cash and he'd mark it down, keep it in his safe.

I'm like, you had to go beg him for it. And you open it up and he's got like his paper. You write down, Carissa did this much. Christina got this much. Okay, I didn't overpay them, or I didn't underpay them, you know, like, he's watching for it. Wow.

And, like, when the, if we just realized we outgrew the mansion because he was holding us back, and Sophia Coppola really acted as, like, a second, no, not to us, because she was telling us, like, you girls can do so much more. Don't do the booze. Don't do surgery. Don't do acting classes. You know, like, once you're finished. So then what happened?

Like, how did you exit? So we had to finish the girls next door TV show. Which was how long? Five and six. Two seasons. So about two years, two years, is. Two years, yeah. Two years, okay.

Yeah. And at that point where you live, where you have some girlfriends at that point? Yeah. So we were, since we moved in, we were considered girlfriends. Girlfriends, okay.

18 to 20. 18 to 20. Yeah, so for me. Because we swore, we're like, we're not going to stay here until 21 because we looked at the old girls. They were much older. They were in their 30.

Yeah. We were teenagers. Yeah, we were teenagers. And they were like, you know, in the mid 30s later. I'm like, I don't want to waste 10 years here. We actually have a. We actually have a.

story where we have a gimmick where we're like getting casted as twins to do like acting and bigger rules than just reality TV like the other girls were and only certain playmates get to do that you know so we really want to like dive in and do much as we can and you know the entertainment industry they want to get you while you're young the older you get as a woman it's it's not going to get any easier so and did you have to like acquiesce to whatever he wanted you know what I mean so our first Christmas present from uh we call the house mom but it's Mary O'Connor gave us a calendar for Christmas, our first Christmas there. And it was a calendar pre-filled out of all Heff's schedule. And his whole schedule is basically, this is your schedule now. You're living his

life. So we're living his life. Like you have to get hair and makeup done at one place and you have to go, well, hair at one place, makeup at another place, spray tan here. And then you, you're by five o'clock, you have to be back and ready for this or whatever event he has. So Monday was manly night. He would spend Mondays with the men. Wednesdays was card night. So he'd want to spend And any girls that were across the street working or living at the bunny house would come across the street and play Uno or Dominoes.

Like put their time about them. So it was like the whole week was taken up. Oh my God. I'm sure you have so many stories. Just, I mean, I can't even imagine. I could talk to you for 10 hours about all these stories. It's fascinating to me.

Just that interior lifestyle, like how it all went down. I mean, even the celebrities that showed up there. I mean, you're probably propositioned a thousand times by like a thousand celebrities. Oh, my God. We always get asked the one. question like who was the most famous person you met and we always say buzz aldrin because we're obsessed with space and the moon like we want to be the first twins in space we want to be the first twins

no we're obsessed we're like we're obsessed with space like we love space and so like buzz aldrin I remember came to a party and Huff was telling us because he knew we were obsessed with space and he's like this is buzz Aldrin and we're like drunk and we're like buzz buzz like we're trying to hear and he's like oh my god you went to the moon dude yeah that's like that's our like celebrity we wanted to meet Like, I feel like that's one, but, and Steven Spielberg, and Steven Spielberg. Oh, Spilbert. Yeah, of course. Wow, such a crazy, fascinating life.

So then how did you exit, you know, how did it all, how did you get out? What does life look like now? What is the plan? What's the future? When the show, the show started coming to an end. Yeah. We actually, sibling rivalry over here, we were like fighting, if you want to talk about fighting, Like, we actually had fights in the mansion that he was, like, with each other dealing with.

Really? Yeah, like, so. What do you guys fight about? Let's just say this one story. Okay, one story. There was a housekeeping closet, and, you know, Carissa goes in there and we're drunk after a party, and we're running around basically in underwear through the whole mansion, like, it's massive. And something set us off.

We're arguing. So, so something set us off we were arguing. Carissa goes into the housekeeper closet and grabs a bottle of windex. And I start spraying it in my house. face with and I'm like freaking blind and I'm running around

and he's like right down the hole in his bedroom so security security watches this at all times and they're like he the security

goes to Heffner HMH HMH HMH HMRst and Hefner HMH they're fighting HMH security and so then he comes down he's like

what's going on and I'm like rinsing my eyes out because of the freaking windex he's like you guys need to hug it out right now like me a month let me finish

she threw a whole thing of protein powder wham! So she's full of windex, I'm full of protein powder and our... Protein powder's all over. And Huff's looking at us like, you guys are fighting and we're like... We're like, protein powder. We're fighting right now drunk. We're fighting. Windex, protein powder, all this. God, we can't be like, you know, robotic and be happy... Yeah.

Go lucky twins all the time, boom, boom, kitty fuck all the time. Right. We're like, yeah, our imperfections cracked, you know, we fought. That was the one fight that. Pressure. Pressure. And he's like, at the end of the day, you know what he did? he's like, I'll buy you guys a new computer you broke. Oh, because we broke this. Sibbling rivalry fights in there.

Yeah. And then when you left, when you were on your own, were you still in it? Do you stay in L.A.? So here's the crazy thing. Carissa wanted to leave before I did. Yeah. So we weren't ready to leave at the same time. Oh.

Ready to leave at the same time. You because you were like... So Carissa had started dating. Oh. We ended up like wanting to leave the mansion and start dating. Start dating. Yeah. We told Hemp, we were ready to leave and have said,

you guys could have, like, you can move into the Playmate House and maybe you'll change your mind after you got some freedom, which is right across the street. We moved out, no, that freedom gave us time to, like, explore L.A. and, like, find out without beyond the ground. We were able to leave Holm Bills and Beverly Hills. Yeah. We could leave Holmby Hills, Beverly Hills.

So, like, we got to actually, we, he went into party, though. So what happened we did is we party? we called Mary we called Mary O'Connor Chief of staff Chief of staff over here and we go to her and we tell her look we want to leave but we want to stay in great terms so this is like how do you break up with Hugh Hefner

and so she kind of helped us and was like all right let's calm down here and I'm like whoa whoa whoa wait don't calm down right now we're not ready to talk about this right help you and so we had talked about and just said like we didn't want to be here we want to you're kind of holding us back we wanted to do other things

so she brought him down to he walks down to the office and he's like, let me guess you guys are leaving me. He knew right away like, you're breaking up with me and we're like, fuck. Yeah, we were breaking up with him. So, Carissa ended up moving out, right? Well, he put us to the guest house.

The Playmey house. No, not the guest, but the playmate house was still on the property. Plainment house was across the street next to Aaron Spelling. And he gave us the room we wanted with the round bed. So, yeah, he put us at the Playmey House and says, this will make us closer. Like, you'll want me, you'll want to come back. We started dating.

And he also cut our allowance back from a thousand. to $500. And the rule was we had to still go to every Sunday, Fun Day event or every night. So Friday, Saturday, and Sunday we had to be there. Keep up the appearances and stuff.

So that fell apart because we weren't staying there and keeping up on appearances. So we just moving out. And we stopped coming home at 9 and we get these voicemels and it's like, hey, honey. No, he'd look up in his black book. Like, it's like the one that you push and then it just fring and it's like

he's got the blackbook full of everyone. phone number and he's dialing the old school phone and leaving us voicemails yeah and he's like you guys aren't home i just want to know where you're at if you're safe and we're like you know we're safe yeah yeah yeah yeah and then you eventually moved out and you like moved in the hall so we moved out i moved into a boyfriend's house at the time that was a really crappy boyfriend she moved into the playmate house and started dating yeah so i was still living there by myself so we opened up a beauty salon in 2014 called glam beverly hills right off welshrow and robertson on that corner.

Okay. And we became the youngest members of Beverly Hills Chamber of Commerce. But the same year, our adopted mother died. She died. The only family we had.

So, like, we had millions of dollars for the first time. We had our own beauty salon. We had all the freedom in the world. 24. 24 youngest members of Beverly Hills Chambers of Commerce. And then Nona dies.

And, like, that was, like, our compass, our foundation. So when she died, we went off the walls, like really depressed. We had no family. So it was, and then the place.

Playboy family that we did have because we broke up with Huff. That was gone. So it was just abandonment, abandonment, abandonment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's why we always say we're trauma bonded. Yeah, right. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season.

It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip,

a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with, everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever

feel demoralized. I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single

day that Paola and I don't call or text each other sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to the moment. with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos

as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not, like...

What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.

On 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder take center stage.

Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorder statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen slimmer. She started going off on me, and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her.

On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike.

Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We were getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care.

Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned. and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands. And then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny.

Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story, starting September 19 on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So then how did you, after Nona, after Nona past, what was what was the move i mean did you start you still had your business did you give up the business so this is like the first time we had no idea what we wanted so we've always been headstrong and like we had no idea what we wanted to do after she passed away we're like what do we do what's our purpose well here was the thing who do we make proud in california for commercial real estate you have to sign for if you're not buying the place you have to have three years you rent it and then after the

three years you have to sign up for five years after that for our beauty salon so we go glamour the hill salon And we signed up for the three years. And then after the three years we're done, they were like, you have to do five years. So how are you able to get sober and sort of put your life back on a better track? When we moved to Michigan is like when we decided. So we decided to get out of a California. We're like, yeah. So let's go there.

Like, why did you move? Why did you move to Michigan back? So it was the third year of our salon. The BLM movement had came along. Everyone was doing like these riots and bashing through Wilshire Boulevard. And we were in primetime Beverly Hills. the whole front of our salon was glass and people kept breaking in

and stealing our cash out of our register and I was just like you know California's getting bad all our friends started moving Stephen Dorff had moved to Nashville and then everybody else was moving to Florida so it was like everybody in L.A. was constantly like we're going to Nashville

we're going to Florida we're going to like they were all moving everyone was leaving at this time so we were like let's leave and we didn't know where we wanted to go because our mother had passed away we had no family to go to my dad we have no nobody so

we thought we were born in Ann Arbor Let's just go to Ann Arbor. We're too known in Florida. We're recognized in Florida. Let's go to Ann Arbor, Michigan. Nobody's there. There's no paparazzi. We wanted to be normal.

Yeah. How long have you lived there now? Six years we've been here now. Six years. And so what do you do it? What's your plan? What are you doing in Ann Arbor? What's the future?

So we're looking at houses in Florida. Oh, God. So after we got our break, no, we got a break out here. And we realized, Michigan served its purpose. No, we looked at the Scott Eastwoods, and we were like settling for like that movie like when you look at the movies and you're like the country boy we thought coming to Michigan we find like a cowboy and just settle down and normal life and no one's going to paparazzi us anymore it was good for privacy and healing

but it's time to get back out there and that's why right now we're out there like it's taken a six years what's the plan so we just had so here's our thing we just hit 35 so wait you're you're born in 89 uh so you're you're born in 89 uh so you're you're you are 45, or 45, 35, 35, right, yeah. Okay. So, we're just like, we wanted to only, like, because we did the Celebrity Big Brother UK in 2012, so we kind of just wanted to step in and do, like, maybe an appearance on a reality show like we did before, like go to do the traitors TV show. We really want to do traitors.

Like maybe start getting into some reality shows. Maybe do a podcast, maybe host a TV show, kind of like Drew Barrymore. We thought we could host the TV show. We're pretty cool at that or maybe get back into a little bit of acting. Something. not full time. So we hit up our old agents from who we have when we were 18 and we've just been working and then we just came out with this article for People Magazine. And it's just been, if we released that article, it's rolled in to everybody's story from us just being

honest. And we're really in shock because like usually our whole career, it's always been about like Hugh Hefner or the Playboy or the other girls. So it was like we were really shocked that people actually cared about our story. And we were and like how we started. and stuff and then like once people heard the truth out of us and it wasn't filtered and stuff like yeah because we have came from a lot like we are very blessed to have each other because we came from a very badly physically abusive family with my father coming from that my father well you you guys are each you're saving graces it seems like you know you lean and rely on each other of course you're twins and there's that connectivity that just goes unconsciously but there's also

like you need each other you know right exactly you need each other And so if you go to Florida, when are you moving? Are you, like, soon? So we're going to move to Boca Raton and July. Yes. July, okay. And the plan is just to keep continuing what you're doing. We're open to dating now.

We're open to dating. I was about to say, what's up with men? You know, how long has it been? How long has it been? How long has it been? Six years. Wow. Like, no, seriously, no sex, no nothing.

People say to us, they're like, you're so gorgeous and you, you know, all this. And they're like, how do you not have a boyfriend? And we're like, we have to get this right first. We have to get up here right. Wow, that's impressive. Six years. Wow, good for you guys. So what happens if one of you falls in love and the other one doesn't?

That's the thing. We have to approve of each other. Like, we have to approve of them. And what if Christina's like, I'm fucking in love and I'm getting married and I've moved in with a dude? Well, the most recent thing we've talked about with our manager is a dating show. So, like, we were really thinking about doing a dating show. And most of them, like, they're not successful. It's, like, kind of fake.

But, no, we're really looking. We really want to settle down. We want to have kids. We want to have a big family. I know, but do you need to do all of this together? Yes. How is it possible to find a dude at the same time? You know, I mean...

So we've just been praying. I mean, we pray about it. And, like, I don't know. I just feel like it's going to happen. It's going to happen. Okay, good. Feeling like it's going to happen. Like, honestly, I feel like we're kind of psychic.

No, we're like... Okay. That sounds crazy, but we're kind of really... Okay, well, let me ask your question. Do you guys have the same idea of, like, a perfect man? Yeah. Yeah, so we used to have the complete opposite, but now we like the same type of man. All right, give me the perfect dude.

Older, more established, funny, very kind, the nerdy. We need nerdy. We like nerds. I like the bad boys that were assholes and they were hot. Yeah. Just go for the nerd. Go for the nerds. Not hot and nerdy, older, and successful.

Yes, yes, exactly. Someone who can fall in love with. Yes, and someone who won't hit on my sister and try to look up with the both of us. Okay, got it. But do you have to be attracted to the person, though? Well, I've been eyeing Elon Musk. Christine is an eyeing, I'm an eyeing Elon Musk. I know, it's a bad example.

No, but she really is. But I really have been. I'm thinking of reaching out. Yeah. Go for it. He has a lot of kids. I don't fall in love, maybe, like, because I know Elon Musk has like 10 kids. I was like

What I'm saying is Do you have to be attracted to the person Or do you want like a nerd who's successful Who we want to be treated right After everything we've been through The most attractive thing to us Yeah looks are a bonus

For us like what we've learned Is like the way we're treated And their character is what we look for So honestly we're not like shallow Where we're looking for looks like If you're funny If you're trusting and you're loyal And you're good to my family

And my family They have nothing negative to say Like that's all we're looking for Yeah But like a good, like someone, not normal, but, you know, just, you know, like that. Well, it's hard. You'll know. Powerful men.

Yeah, we like powerful men. You do. Yeah, because we're very, we're very alpha and we're very, um, we say it like a, no, you, hey. You can scare off some guys. You do. You do, you do say that. I don't know. Maybe being with half kind of made us more attracted to a powerful kind of guy.

Yeah. Yeah. Not like we were attracted to, but as. just the powerful position being experienced to that and exposed to that

maybe it's like we like the more powerful kind of man yeah right yeah well this would be good Florida's probably

the better place to go find that exactly than Ann Arbor yeah exactly well we've gone way over time

because I'm just fucking so fascinated with your story I mean I could talk to another hour hours just about all the intricate sort of ongoing

yeah yeah yeah yeah no but we've I've had a great time talking to you, honestly, you made it, you know, very comfortable for us. Oh, good. We enjoyed it. Thank you. It's our first podcast. Oh, good.

Well, I'm happy to be the first. Well, I appreciate you guys. Thank you so much. Good luck with it all. And thanks for telling your story. And thanks for being so candid. You know, honestly, honest, it's the best way to be. Yeah.

Awesome. And good luck finding that dude or dudes. All right. Dudes. Dudes. Dudes. Dudes. Men.

We're not supporting on this time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Thank you, Oliver. Thank you, all right. Thank you, guys. Okay, bye. I'm not going to do an outro. I'm going to just let you stew in that for a second.

Oliver Hudson. Out. I'm Jorge Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective.

The moment is a space for the conversation we've been having as father and daughter for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story.

Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients.

You think you're finally, like, in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting to recording now. Please state your first and last name.

Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years. until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happen to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple.

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