Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Revel In It: Feeling Anxious with Dr. Amen

Episode Date: January 16, 2025

This episode of Sibling Revelry was recorded before the catastrophic Los Angeles Wildfires.Oliver takes being a worry wart to the next level like a lot of people. So, we are pulling all the stop with anxiety expert, Dr. Daniel Amen. Why do some of us worry about the worst-case scenario? And what are millions of Americans doing that causes premature aging in the brain?!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a Sibling Ravelry No, no Sibling Ravelry

Don't do that with your mouth Sibling Reavory That's good Welcome. I don't know why that popped into my head. I don't know. Oh, you know why? I know why. I am going skiing in February over President's Day. And I was thinking before I got on like, okay, where the fuck am I going to stay? Airbnb, you know, okay, I got to go on Airbnb and make sure I can get a place. It's like, cool, I can handle my kids that's close to the mountain. And that's why I thought of it, because I'll be using an Airbnb in Sandy, Utah. Snowbird in February. Anyone wants to come? Let's go. Anyway, it's me. It's Oliver Rutledge Hudson. We got our guests in the waiting room. I'm not going to give too much of an intro here about my life because you guys pretty much know my life anyway. But this is an exciting one because I actually

follow his Instagram account. I have gnarly anxiety as everyone knows. My mother has been, you know, delving into the brain and using her knowledge to sort of help create a curriculum for children and letting them understand why they have the emotions that they have. There's a lot going on. There's so much to talk about. I'm going to try not to use this as a personal therapy session, but let's bring the man on Dr. Daniel. Well, this is a treat. I really appreciate you coming on. There's a ton, a ton to talk about with you. I mean, a ton.

Number one, my mother, you know my mom? He's Goldie, Hahn. Did you know that or no? I didn't. Okay. So my mom's Goldie Hawn. She has been researching the brain. Neuroscience is sort of her passion.

She's created a foundation called Mind Up, that she's been sort of pioneering. or she pioneered and is shepherding for the last 20 years where it's basically creating a place for kids to understand why they're feeling the things that they're feeling, you know, through science, you know, if you're feeling frustrated, you're feeling anger, you know, what is actually happening within your brain that is making you feel these things. And I wanted to get her on, but she has to go into town. But I wanted her to come on with you because it would be a treat for her because she's heard of you.

Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. So this is definitely, you know, a place for me to sort of air out my own insanity with you. But let's not go there quite yet. I'd like to go back, honestly, you know, into your childhood, you know, understand sort of where you came from, leading up to what inspired you to do work that you do you know like where did you grow up so i grew up in the san fernando valley as one of seven children i was third which um you can think about two ways one i was irrelevant in a lebanese family the oldest boy is the most important child and uh and then the oldest girl is special. So I had older brother and older sister and four younger sisters. And so it was a fair

amount of chaos. And I was clearly not special. But it's total freedom because you can basically do anything you want where my older brother, my dad owned a chain of grocery stores. And it was very clear that that's what he was going to do. and so I tried it like I worked in the grocery store since I was 10 and I'm like no this is not what I'm going to do

and then in 1972 Vietnam was still going on I turned 18 I had a low draft number and odds are I was going to be drafted so I became an infantry medic and that's where I fell in love with medicine. And thank God for me, I didn't go to Vietnam. I went to West Germany and I loved living in Europe.

And I didn't like being shot at. So I got myself retrained as an X-ray technician and developed a passion for medical imaging. As our professors used to say, how do you know unless you look? And that really became one of the major themes of my life, because if you come to one of my 11 clinics, we're going to look at your brain. It's the big missing piece in mental health, diagnosis, and treatment.

Nobody ever looks at your brain, which, of course, is insane. And since then, we built the world's largest database of brain scans related to behavior, or a quarter of a million on people from 155 countries. And so incredible. Do you have to get imaging when they are in a state of whatever it is we're looking for, a state of high anxiety, state of depression, a state of elation joy? I mean, do you have to have those triggers to be able to see what's happening? No.

It's most of the time, you know, we get people in their regular state. I mean, so for example, with PMS, I have five sisters and five daughters. It's a real thing. Five daughters. Wow. So I often... Were you trying for the boy, and it just didn't happen? Or were you just wanting to have children?

No, I have a boy. You do? Okay. I adopted a boy. Okay. But it's a lot of estrogen. Yeah. And so sometimes I'll scan away.

woman like right before she has her cycle, generally the worst time of the cycle. And then I'll scan her 11 or 12 days later. And it's the first time you really believe in multiple personality disorder. Their brains are often very different. Your brain tends to be your brain. If you go in a manic episode, it'll change. But you'll still see the pattern beforehand. Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah. Well, I, you know, have suffered from, suffer from anxiety since I was in my 20s. You know, I had a moment and I thought I was having a heart attack like most people say. And then that sort of started off this year, just insane journey of trying to figure out why, number one, what was? why I'm feeling this way. You know, I got on Lexa Pro.

I'm on Lexa Pro now, but I've been consistently, not consistently, but every once in a while having these big time bouts. You know, when I tried to wean off of my Lexa Pro is when I really, like, went into a crazy space and had to go back on.

But I feel like, you know, it's definitely been something for me that has been character building there's no doubt i guess my question is is there a genetic component to anxiety depression for sure and there's also modeling for it um you know if your mom or dad had it and they had the negative thinking that often goes along with it um or if there's chronic stress um it all sort of works together. In my mind, I always think in these four big circles, there's biological causes of anxiety, including low ferretin, iron, measure of iron stork, high thyroid, the biological causes. There's certain areas of the brain, like the amygdala or basal ganglia that tend to work

too hard in people with anxiety. It can be. genetic or it can be based on trauma and unprocessed trauma experiences. I think when you grow up with someone who's very successful or very famous, it changes your brain. You know, I mean, obviously, there are benefits, but they're also pretty big risks associated with it. And so what kind? Like how does that, because now you're speaking my language.

How would that affect? Well, you know, I've been blessed to see, you know, some of the well-known people in the world. And I'm like, dear God, don't let me be famous before my brain is finished developing. Right. And the brain doesn't finish developing until you're 25. And so when you grow up in the public eye, there's always bullies, there's always critics, there's always comparison and it's unless your parents are pretty rooted it can be very problematic and a lot of the kids of well-known people I've seen were in part raised by other people because the parents were so

busy it's tricky and you could probably tell me more about what was like for you, but a sense of entitlement can happen and entitled people are never happy. And, you know, I grew up with a very powerful father who was famous in grocery business, right? I mean, it's a different level of fame, but he was chairman of the board of a $4 billion company. Oh, wow. And I'm like, so how do you live up to that? And I think that was hard. Well, I don't think. It was hard for me to, you know, always sort of be less than.

But when I find that I, when I don't compare myself to other people, I am just happy as can be. But it's when it's like, oh, you don't have this or don't have that, that you get sad. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's crazy. It's crazy because this is your, this is exactly sort of how I have experienced my life, but this is not that it's not something that has been put upon me. I have done this to myself. You know, the expectation is just self-inflicted, essentially. My sister's famous. You know, my parents are famous. I wanted to get into the world of the movie business, but acting necessarily wasn't my thing, wasn't my love. I kind of. fell into it, 23, 21, 22, trying to figure it out, comparing myself to all my friends around me were getting jobs. That first bout of anxiety when I did sort of go inward and meditate and write my journals and seek out therapy, it really sort of, that was what it came down to, which was this comparison, which I still fucking do today at 48 years old. And I can completely relate to you

when you say, when I feel that moment of I'm not comparing, there's just a weight completely lifted off of my shoulders. It's just about getting to that space, I guess, you know. Well, and then I learned not to believe every stupid thing, I think. Right. So freeing. I call them ants, automatic negative thoughts, the thoughts that come into your mind automatically and just ruin for day.

And I love teaching my patience to be the leader of their emotions rather than the victim of their emotion. So I want to take a leadership role. And I wrote a kid's book called Captain Snouter and the superpower questions. And it's basically, and Captain Snout. this is an ant eater, right? So if you have too many ants, you gotta have an ant eater. And whenever you feel sad or mad or nervous or out of control,

write down what you're thinking. And then just ask yourself whether or not it's true. That you don't have to believe every stupid thing you think. Thoughts come from the news you watch, the music you listen to, the voice of your siblings, the voice of your mom or dad, your friends, your foes. And Jerry Seinfeld said the brain is a sneaky organ. We all have weird, crazy, stupid, sexual, violent thoughts that nobody should ever hear.

And I spend a lot of time with my patients. It's like, let's not let the inside voice get out. It's like always sort of assess. I say this, does it help me? If I do this, does it help me? Get me what I want. And too often, most people have never asked themselves, what do you want?

When I ask my patience, they talk about money or they talk about work, and I'm like, no, what do you want? Relationships. What do you want? Like with my wife, I want a kind, caring, loving, supportive, passionate relationship. Always want that. Don't always feel like that. Rude thoughts, show up. Don't let the inside voice come out.

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I had this overwhelming sensation that I had to call her right then. And I just hit call. I said, you know, hey, I'm Jacob Schick. I'm the CEO of One Tribe Foundation and I just want to call on and let her know there's a lot of people battling some of the very same things you're battling.

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You know, you said something that's interesting where you know you're not alone when you have these insane thoughts, you know, because sometimes I'll have the craziest thoughts of all time where I'll just start ruminating on a scenario where all of my kids die in some horrific accident. And I'm thinking, Oliver, what are you doing?

I mean, I'm catastrophizing, of course. You know, it's almost like, I don't even know why you're doing it. It's a protection mechanism in case it does happen. You don't hurt so much. I have no fucking idea. It's because your mind is undisciplined.

And you just have to discipline. It's not hard, but it takes work. whenever you feel sad or mad or nervous or I can just write it down and then go is that true and there's a process I learned from my friend Byron Katie where take each thought captive and there are five questions so my kids are going to die in a horrific accident here's the five questions is it true yeah no so questions two is automatically no if one is no so one is it true

question two is is it absolutely true you know that with a hundred uncertainty of course question three is how do you feel when you have that thought terrible anxious, panic

even though it's something that's not true the fourth question is how would you feel if you didn't have that thought amazing right And the fitter question is turn the thought around that's terrorizing you to the opposite. That's not going to happen to my kids. Yeah. That you meditate on that.

Yeah. And then you're fine. Yeah. But if you don't take each thought captive. Yeah. You believe it, even though it's a lie. And then you act out of the. erroneous belief

yeah it's that it's cognitive behavioral therapy stuff too you know I mean that's definitely resonates but you have to work it and I figure out a way to make it super simple yeah don't believe every stupid thing you think no I love that it's so true

it's hard it's hard though well well because you're creating these negative emotions out of absolute bullshit we're inflicting pain upon ourselves with these ideas, these ruminations that haven't even happened yet. And it's harder not to do it.

Right. Right. I mean, if you put in the effort, it's sort of like going to the gym. Mm-hmm. Like, if you haven't gone to the gym in 10 years, it's sort of hard. But the more you do it, actually, in a matter of weeks, you begin to notice your body changing. Mm-hmm. And then you feel really good about it.

And so I think it's important to just see it as good work. Well, it's like meditation. You know, it is a practice. You know, sometimes practice isn't as fun as the games. And you have to just grit and bear it and fucking practice, you know, because then it will just get better and better and better and easier and easy. easier. It's so funny, though, because I like to work out or I like to run. I'm a fisherman. I have a book. All of these things that I love to do or some that I don't, but I just want to

take care of my body. The hardest thing is to sit down for even 10 minutes and enter into a meditation, even though from a time-consuming standpoint is nothing. But there's such a resistance there and it's me but I find that that's a common thing that people you know can sort of relate to where it's like it's 10 minutes just do it but there's a resistance there and I wonder sometimes where that comes from why am I resisting this you know because it's difficult do it for 30 seconds yeah I mean it's it's just the simpler you can make it the tinier you can make a habit you want to build better like after our conversation one thing that would be helpful is give your mind a name and like I named my mind after my

pet raccoon when I was 16 so I interviewed Stephen Hayes he's the founder of act a form of psychotherapy and he said yeah one of our techniques is give your mind a name and I'm like, what would I name my mind? And it came to me almost immediately. I had a raccoon when I was 16. I got her when she was a baby and I loved her. Wow. And she was just like my mind, a troublemaker.

Yeah. She tepeeed my mother's bathroom, made all the fish out of my sister's aquarium, and would leave raccoon poo in my shoes. And I'm like, that's my mind. And so when it starts, bothering me. I metaphorically just sort of put her in the cage. It's like, you know, I don't have to listen to you. And now what I do is, in my mind, I put her on her back and tick her because she used to like that. Raccoons make over 200 sounds. And it's about gaining psychological

distance from the noise in your head. And no, the noise. is not you, and you can assess it and decide what's true for you, right? It's not the thoughts you have that make you unhappy. It's the thought you attach to. What about when you're moving into more of an addictive space or like impulse control when you do have a thought, and you don't want to act on it because you know it's bad, but you can't help yourself.

Give me an example. Well, you know, let's just say gambling. Okay, so you're a gambler. You're like, I know I shouldn't do this. I don't want to do this. But, you know, all of a sudden, some thing pops up online and you get that hit of dopamine and now you're off to the fucking races and, like, I have to gamble. And I know it's a thought, but I cannot control that impulse.

What is happening in your body physically? So there are two things going on in your brain. That's gambling is an impulsive, compulsive disorder. So your frontal lobes are not as strong as they could be. And your anterior singular gyrus, I think of it as the brain's gear shifter, tends to work too hard and it's like you get thoughts that loop

do this, do this, do this, do this, do this and your break is not strong enough to stop it. Interestingly, there's a medicine, a supplement called an acetyl cystine that has been shown to help with compulsive gambling

and it's a super antioxidant. It's metabolized to glutathione in the body. And it's been helpful for so many things, even head trauma, depression. But compulsions, there's studies with marijuana, alcohol, nicotine, compulsive gambling, and compulsive hair pulling, called trichotillomania.

Not how I got this. What about what about, sex, like sexual addiction. Is that compulsion, or is that something different? Well, you know, I wrote a book called Your Brain is Always Listening, and I actually rewrote the 12-step program from a neuroscience perspective. And I'm like, so what type of addiction do you have? Is it an impulsive addiction where you just can't say no? Is it a compulsive addiction where you think about it all the time. Is it impulsive, compulsive combination?

Is it sad you're using it to treat an underlying depression, or is it an anxious to medicate and underlying anxiety disorder? So know your brain type, which is why at Amen clinics, you know, we scan people. It's like, let's look at your brain and let's get it really healthy. and if your brain is healthy, you just have much better control over your behavior and you're much more likely to relapse and the ants are much more likely to attack

if you didn't sleep well the night before. If you let your blood sugar go low, so I actually have a lot of my patients wear continuous glucose monitors and if they're blood, If they go too long without eating, for example, they're more likely to relapse. And I think just knowing what are my triggers and when am I likely to have a problem is so helpful in treating addictions. That's amazing.

I mean, I feel like this needs to be more accessible, you know, so people can really get an idea, you know, of what's happening. you know, from a physiological standpoint, you know, a science standpoint, and how to sort of mitigate some of these things through supplements or through just taking care of your body. Well, Oliver, think about it with me. Psychiatrists are the only medical doctors who never look at the organ they treat. How does that make any sense? So I'm a double board certified psychiatrist. When I started looking at the brain, I'm like, well, of course, everybody should do this.

But it doesn't match the status quo. And so I get demonized. And I'm like, oh, no, I'm not the devil. You all are. Last year, there were 334 million, 340 million prescriptions for antidepressants. And no one's ever looked at the brain. I mean, you've been on Lexapro, how long? I mean, fuck, man, I was 24, I was in Selexa, then went off at first some years,

and back on Lexa Pro, then off it, then on it. So, you know, for a long time. Did anybody look at your brain? No, no, no, never. It was never even a question. Think of the arrogance of the medical profession that says, I know what's wrong with you, and I'm going to give you a medicine that's going to change your brain,

to need it in order for you to feel normal, which is why when you went off of it, it was so hard. But we're not going to really talk to you about brain health. We're not going to work really hard to have you have the healthiest brain possible. We're going to put you on something you need, which is a great business model. They don't want to fix you. They want to addict you.

and I'm not okay with it. So our mission is to end the concept of mental illness by creating a revolution in brain health. So if you become really passionate about your brain, you're just less likely to need it. Now, if you need it, we all just say, you and light candles at church and be grateful for it. Right, right, right.

I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith.

there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app,

podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, it's Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumero, and this is more better. We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you. Your thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals. And we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice and hot takes. God, that sucks so hard, though. I'm so sorry. Can you out petty them?

Can you match their pettiness for funsies? Yeah. We had so much fun last season, laughing, crying, talking to some new and old friends. Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing. Oh, yeah. And I was like, can I also hug them? I'm like, this f*** has no friends. This time around, we are, say it, Melissa.

Should I? Say it. Getting a little more better. Oh, finally. It's all the dressing room talk you loved in season one. All the things. Because aren't we all trying to get a little more better? Listen to more better on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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This season, we're going even deeper into the world of music and entertainment, with raw and honest conversations with some of your favorite Latin artists and celebrities. You didn't have to audition? No, I didn't audition. I haven't auditioned in, like, over 25 years. Oh, wow. That's a real G-talk right there. Oh, yeah.

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and all the issues affecting our Latin community. You feel like you get a little whitewash because you have to do the code switching? I won't say whitewash because at the end of the day, you know, I'm me. But the whole pretending and code, you know, it takes a toll on you. Listen to the new season of Grasasas Come Again as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. But what's the brain health, because when you talk about health in general,

like, you know, there's physical, you're working out, you're eating correctly. How does one get their brain healthy? How does one start that process? You know? So for me, it's, you should look at your brain. But not everybody can. But it really is three things. Brain envy.

You've got to care about it. Avoid things that hurt it, no the less. And then do things to help it on a regular basis. You know, I've tried to make this as easy as I can over the years. It's love your brain. And it all comes down to this one question. which is so insane when I think about it. Is this good for my brain or bad for it?

Whatever you're going to do today. Fishing, exercise, the sunlight, something you love, good for your brain. Marijuana, bad for your brain. Alco. Bad for your brain. Mushrooms, probably bad for your brain. The jury's still. So I was going to be a question of mine and how you feel about all the new psycho.

Yeah, I think it's dangerous. Do you really? I do. And I feel like I've seen this party five times before. Like, Benzos are Mommy's Little Helper. They're innocuous and they help you. It's a complete lie. They're addictive.

And once you're certain. Yeah. Alcohol is a health food. Complete crap. um vaping is a healthier form of smoking bullshit yes um pain is the fifth vital sign that you're actually hurting people if you withhold opiates from them that's insane and uh and now the big innovations in psychiatry for 2024 are marijuana mushrooms and ketamine so the straight drugs of the 60s are making a comeback and I'm like don't you think maybe we should look at the brain and then the right supplements and the right food and the right exercises yeah I mean but but what about the the because again there is a there is sort of a a ground swell that happened in the 50s and

60s and sort of got, you know, shut down through government to fund the grants have been shut down and all that. But now there's a swell that's happening with psilocybin, with MDMA, you know, yes, with ketamine, with DMT, ayahuasca, you know, where they're having these sort of high dose experiences that are somewhat curing or helping PTSD, depression, all of that stuff you know i mean before but then like rational things let's look at your brain and make sure you're not actually dealing with traumatic brain injury okay think about the soldiers coming back from iraq and afghanistan um how do you know is it PTSD or is it really a traumatic brain injury they're dealing with giving someone psychedelic drugs in the dark i think i just think it's not

it's going to turn out like alcohol and marijuana turned out and open and i think we should be careful and you go oh but there's so much science but if you actually go read the science because i have it's 650 patients it's not thousands of patients um And it's generally done by people who were excited about getting positive results. And now I have, how old are your kids? 17, 14, 11. Yeah. So my youngest is 14, but my daughter, Chloe, just turned 21.

And she's like, Dad, it's not going out for alcohol. It's going out for mushrooms. The mushrooms are the most common thing. And so if you listen to the doctors, they'll like go 25 milligrams under supervision. And that's not what these kids are using. They're seeing way more, way more often because, and they're going, oh, it's good for PTSD, it's good for depression. I'm like, well, so is exercise or learning how to not believe every stupid thing you think.

Or one of my favorite therapies for PTSD is EMDR, a specific, it's eye movement desensitization processing. I love the MDR. I think it's like mushrooms without side effects. So, and I want to be, like, you know, because I post on this all the time. Yeah, yeah. I got all these haters and say, you know, you should be, you should get high.

But when you look at the brain like I have, yeah. And you go, marijuana prematurely ages the brain. I mean, it's just so clear. I published a study. And that's the largest imaging study ever published on 62,454 scans. Marijuana aged the brain worse than alcohol and nicotine. But there has to be a certain amount.

You know what I mean? The intake obviously matters. Like, to be candid, I smoke or eat weed every day my life at night. It's just part of my routine. I'm not a daily smoker, like in the middle of the day. day or anything like that. I come home, I'll eat a gum, you know, smoke a half a joint or whatever, right? I'm not, you know, necessarily partaking so much so that it's a real part of my life. It's just sort of an end-of-the-day thing. You know, I mean, how much does that, how old is my

brain? Well, it'll be worth looking. But I think for you, if you do it every day, then you're constantly in a state of withdrawal. And so you go, oh, this really helps me. And how it helps you is it's preventing the withdrawal from it. And, you know, if you got rid of it. So I do a show on Instagram called Scan My Brain. And one of the people, she was using it every day. And she saw her brain and she goes, oh, I don't like that.

Like, no, you shouldn't like that. And so she stopped. And she said she couldn't believe the amount of energy and clarity she got. I don't know if you know, but it's actually NBA players are smoking a lot of pot. Oh, yeah, a ton of weed, yep. And they forget stuff. And it's just not good. no no I I have so here because I can only base my shit off of me I have in the last little while you know I was I was drinking way too much honestly like just too many cocktails every day it just became a part of my routine you know I did a liver cleanse and then I stopped drinking I stopped smoking cigarettes and I was you know three weeks and the amount of

energy. I felt and it was just, I was like buzzing. It was incredible. I guess from, if you're looking at my brain, the problem that I have is when I, when I am clean, I almost feel anxious of like, well, what am I going to do? I, I need to have drinks. Like, I need to smoke my, my weed. I can't just sit here without a vice. Who am I without a vice? What do I do? I mean, this is what's going through my mind. See, that would be a good question to ask yourself.

Even though I feel amazing. Nobody without a vice, is that true? And so I was doing Shailene Johnson's podcast a couple of weeks ago. And I live a very clean life. And I do it purpose. And she looked at me and she's like, how can you have any fun? Yes, this is I was about to ask you. Don't you want to dance on tables?

And I just, I stared at her like, no, I don't want to dance on tables. Like, no, I don't want to do that. What I want is energy and memory and clarity and good decision and good blood. blood flow for my wife, and I want to make a difference, and I love the work I do, and I love my grandchildren. And it's like, that's what I want. And, you know, and if we drill down what you really want, it's probably similar. It is. It's just scary to exist without it. I just don't know. you know like like for instance this is a perfect example i'm not drinking during the week i drink on a saturday and that's it right um today is what is it tuesday i've got my all my boys it's like

the holiday dinner you know i'm like i don't want to drink because i feel good but i'm going to i can't not go to the holiday dinner and not have martinis with my boys because i don't know this is what i need to get this is what i need to get to I did a program with BJ Fogg. He's the professor at Stanford. He runs the Persuasive Tech Lab. And he and I worked on a program on how people change. And it's not the big changes.

It's the little changes, the tiny habits. He wrote a book called Tiny Habits. And the tiny habit is this good for my brain or bad for it. And ultimately, so a year later, the way work together. He said, because of you, I wake up 100% every day. And I'm like, well, thank you. And he said, I stopped drinking.

Because he said, and it was never a problem. But when I drank, I didn't wake up 100%. And I'm like, so what do you want? And he goes, I want to wake up 100% every day. Because life is short. Yeah. And here's the thing, life is short, but we're all obviously so individual. And there's a part of me that's like, life is short.

So yeah, have those 100% moments. But at the same time, how can you be in Europe and not have great wine and smoke a cigarette? This is how I grew up, you know, with my family. It's sort of learned behavior as well. but I mean that's part of life too to me strangely that indulgence you know where those memories you're reflecting on are like oh remember that when we drank eight bottles of wine at that cafe and smoke two packs of cigarettes and it was a beautiful moment and I'm thinking what it's doing to your body right exactly it's like he's it really worth giving up a couple of years for those moments I mean can't

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So when you can see what your brain actually looks like and instead of just being told it's bad for you, when you can physically see it, I think that that will promote transformation for sure. I guess the question then is, how do we, do you get it out there? That everyone can sort of take a peek at their brain to promote change and health and wellness, brain wellness. Podcasts and I do write books. But I'm saying how can someone see their brain? Like is it, is it?

I want, that's why I have 11 clinics. So you come to one of my clinics. yeah look at your brain and go is it what i want right i mean the ultimate question becomes which brain do you want and i remember i saw this really well-known person 10 years ago and he was drinking way too much and had like this massive wine cellar and so like and his brain looked like 20 years older than he was. And so I made him a poster, healthy brain, his brain,

his brain if he got healthy and his brain if he kept drinking. And then saw him for a few months and then lost touch with him. And then he just came out recently. He said he's been sober for 10 years. I'm just so excited for him. Yeah.

You know? Because ultimately which brain do you want? Because your brain controls everything you do, how you think, how you feel, how you act, how you get along with other people. When it works right, you tend to work right. And when it doesn't, you don't. And so when I saw my brain in 1991, I was 37, it wasn't healthy. Were you a drinker? No, it's never a drinker or a smoker. But I was overweight, ate poorly, I didn't sleep well. Had bad habits.

And I was under chronic stress. And I didn't like my brain. And so I think I've developed this whole program. It's 25 years later, my brain is fuller, fat, or healthier. And that's the goal. Yeah. To have the healthiest brain possible. And you can make it better.

That's the exciting news. Yeah. A big NFL study when the NFL was sort of blind and had a problem. with traumatic brain injury and football. And I scan 400 NFL players. 80% of them get better when we put them on a rehabilitation program. Really?

We don't have a ton of time. I know you got to go, but there's so much to fucking talk to you about. It's crazy because I'm so interested in this. And if you don't mind, I would love to give you my mother's email. You guys need to hook up. I mean, you might become best friends, honestly.

She's an amazing woman. just generally, you know, and she would love you, and I know you would love her. So that's number one. But number two, when you're talking about sort of brain rehabilitation, like how does that work? And is it specific to the individual's brain on how you rehab it? Well, yes and no. I mean, they're basic things everybody should do. And so love your brain.

Avoid things that hurt it, no, the list. We've talked about a couple of them. And then do things that help it, which you're already doing some of them, like running and fishing, new learning. There's a whole set of labs I think everybody should get. And certain supplements, multiple vitamin fish oil, optimized vitamin D. I'm a huge fan of hyperbaric oxygen therapy. I'm actually in Justin Bieber's documentary called Seasons

and he slept in his chamber not necessary but I have his brain in January and then in August of that year dramatically better wow so excited and did he feel

I mean he could feel it you can see it and feel it he could see it and you know yeah but you have to sort of keep it up yeah well let me ask you a question if you have your brain and you're rehabbing your brain and you're on the right track but then you have a night and you and you get drunk and you have a hangover does that how much does that set it sets you back you know from a imaging standpoint or a physical standpoint well you know if you're doing that less and less over time your brain is going to start getting better but you know like

Mike Tyson just got in the ring. I'm like, that's bad for your brain. Oh, yeah. It's not good every once in a while to just go, let's hurt it. And the more you love yourself, those times just become less and less. Yeah. Until they go, oh, I want to wake up 100% tomorrow.

So why would I do that tonight? unless you're just giving in to the habit of the moment. Yeah. Right? I'm used to, it's the holiday. So I have this whole group of my friends where we have this program of what are the healthiest things we can do this holiday season. So rather than the excuse, oh, we've got to go to the holiday party and you have to get drunk.

Right. Just flip it on its head. Well, what's the healthiest thing I can do? We're really going to celebrate the birth of the baby. be Jesus by getting drunk and you not be good. I mean, it's sort of, no, I don't think. But it's fit, right? It's, oh, I have memories of this is what we do.

So, but you could make new memories. Because every day you are modeling health or you're modeling illness for the people you care about. Well, I just love everything that you're. saying because there's so many different sort of avenues to all of this. Yes, there's a physical side, but there's also the meditative side. There's also the, you know, the sort of fake to you make it thing where you can actually change the neuro pathways, the way that your brain looks through meditation, through positive thinking, and in sort of reading a little bit about

you, I wake up every morning and it's funny that you wrote this because I didn't know that this was even a thing. And I understand that, of course, positive affirmation is good. But I wake up every morning, I said, this is going to be the best fucking day. I just, I just say it. You know, it's going to be a great day. And I read, I was like, oh, my God, the doctor saying the same thing. This is how I try to, I try to create that space for myself, even though sometimes it's not the best day, but, you know. But you're taking a leadership role in your emotions. and you don't want to abdicate, you don't want marijuana to be the chief operating officer.

It's like, you wanted to have the leadership role. And I do things to make myself healthier. I've got some of such a joy talking to you all. Yeah, this was really fun, buddy. I appreciate it. Thank you so much. Okay, take care. All right, take care.

Yeah, that's something I could just go on. on and on about you know i love i love when he cut it off he's like dude he's like all right oliver shut the fuck up i got to get the fuck out of here because i just can't stop that's okay i got put in my place by the doctor and that's fine but guess what he just did he made my brain go on the fritz so essentially he has aged me about a year with uh cut it with with with wanting to get off the he wanted to get off the the the uh the podcast which then triggered my insecurity that I'm not good enough. And then my brain sort of went haywire.

And now I'm masking it with self-deprecation and humor, which is a vicious cycle. So, Doc, if you listen to this, I love you. And I would love to come to your clinic. And I think I should get a discount because of how you have just set me back a year with that rejection. Anyway, that was amazing. God, man.

It's so many things. It's amazing, inspirational and then depressing. You know, because we all like to indulge, you know what I mean? You got to live an 80-20 life, you know. If what makes you happy is that pure clarity and that pure health and amazing. And I would, but at the same time, like, How do I not go to Europe and drink wine? How do I not go to a holiday party with my boys right now

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