Revel In It: Hitting Snooze on the Booze
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03:01No, no.Sibling reverie.Don't do that with your mouth.Sibling rivalry.That's good.Yeah, I yawned.I yawn, what are you going to do about it?Nothing, you know why?
03:26Because you're just listening to me and you can't talk back.It's kind of a good thing about this whole podcast space.I can say what I want and no one can respond to me or give me their opinion in any way.It's my opinions.And all that matters when you're listening to this shit are my opinions.And if you disagree with my opinions, you can either turn it off or just disagree with them.I don't know what I'm talking about right now.sometimes my brain goes too fast
03:59sometimesmy brain goes too slowthat is why I'm on lexaprosee what I just didI just created a lexia pro jinglesomeone copyright thatbecause it will get stolenSo we have a guest in our waiting room right now.
04:29Her name is Hillary Scheinbaum.She's a journalist.She's the founder of going dry.co.The author of The Dry Challenge, How to Lose Booze for Dry January, Sober October,and any other alcohol-free month.It's about giving up alcohol for a month and then potentiallyyou know foreverI guess
04:54thissheI'm excited to talk to herbut I'm scaredI'm not scaredI justI feel like the last showsthat I've been doing
05:07this sort of alcohol thingis always coming upand now she's here you knowis this the universe speaking to meby the way I haven't had a drink in five daysagain preface this allI'm prefacing on this all by sayingI don't have a problem
05:21But I just want to feel better.I'm 40 fucking 7.I'll be 48th on September 7th.I'm going to be 50 years old soon.So why not in these next two years give it a hardcore push to 50 to see what I can do,to see what I can accomplish with my body?You know what I mean?Like health-wise, you know, maybe an 80-20 situation.
05:47I don't need to go 100%.Like, I still want to have my fun.80-20.it's time to push anyway i don't want to keep her waiting bring in hillary shine bomb and let's get iton hey how are you good how you doing good how about you um i'm good i am three days sobercongratulations so i'm feeling good and uh i'm sitting here in colorado and it's rainingwhich is nice.It's nice because it's kind of beautiful.
06:22You know what I mean?Yeah.Living in L.A., you get so much sun,which, of course, we love.But then it just makes you appreciate that rainwhere you don't feel like you have to go do something.Yeah.It eliminates the pressure of going outside.
06:38It does.When it's sunny and it's beautiful,you can't sit inside and watch the Olympics,even though maybe that's what you want to do, right?It's like, well, how am I wasting this beautiful day?Yeah. Which brings me actually into the world that we're going to talk about soon,you know, which is sort of this casual sober. I just made that up. I'm not sure that's what theterm for it is, but dry January, dry October, dry months, sort of limiting your alcohol intake,
07:07when it is a beautiful day, when I am watching a sunset, if there is something that isincredible, it's nearly impossible for me to do that without a cocktail or some sort ofvice you know what i mean watching a sunset being on a boat doing something incredible in natureespecially only makes it better when you have a drink in your hand i don't know if i agree yeah of courseyou don't agree i'm speaking for myself right and in trying to break my habits of that because i wouldn'tsay i'm a habitual drinker but there are habits within my drinking there's pavlovian drinkingAnd that is one of them, along with, you know, maybe a cigarette or some sort of a vice.So I'm trying hard now to be able to go play golf or to sit down and watch the sunset without having a cocktail.
08:03You know, is this something that you have studied or addressed along the way?I've definitely addressed it and I feel like I've lived it and I'm now rallying against it.Not too aggressively.I'm not 100% sober, but I do recognize what you're saying.I think that, you know, in our culture, there's an opportunity for alcohol 99% of the time.You know, you go to a sports game.You're expecting to have a beer, you know, you go to a baby shower,and you're expecting there to be sparkling line so you can, you know, cheers.
08:48And same thing with wedding.If there isn't an open bar, people are so disappointed.And all of the things that you mentioned, like, you know, going outside and watching the sunset or taking a hike, like, those are amazing great things in themselves, especially if you're active.That's releasing endorphins.And it's just so interesting, like, how alcohol has just, like, permeated every single activity that we do.And especially living in New York where people don't drive, I think it's just,there are endless opportunities to, you know, have a cocktail, open a bottle of wine,but doesn't have to be that way.
09:26I think, well, historically, like, before we come into the present, right, let's go backwards.And again, I'm not sure you address these things, but you probably do.I don't know.But how did it become that way?Alcohol is definitely romantic, just throughout time, especially when movies started to comeout and there's you know pictures and you see someone have a martini or tom collins or you knowan old-fashioned uh you see bogart you know having a whiskey and a cigarette there was somethingreally sexy about it you know do you think that has played a large part in this yeah i think
10:10pop culture absolutely alludes to it i mean think of like all those popular teen movies from likethe 90s, early 2000s, and even still, like, everybody wants to be part of that party and partof like the fun that we're witnessing, right? Like everything social is happening around a drink,including, like you said, like romance and dating and it's just become so normalized. I thinkthe advertising around alcohol is so uniquely smart, right? It shows all these things that we ashumans crave, like human connection in the romantic sense, in the sense of friendship.And, you know, even going back before like motion picture and TV, if you think about it,so many cultures and even religion has wine.
10:59And so, yeah, people just grow up with, you know, what their parents are doing andthe people around them.And so I think it's really personal and individual.and um but from all different you know ways of life we're receiving these messages whether we realizeit or not so it's everywhere and it's also a social lubricant obviously so i mean if you're goingback a thousand years you know i'm sure it had the same effects on people as it did as it doestoday where they're able to sort of open up a little bit more it creates more vulnerabilitywhich everyone wants a little bit more of
11:40so you're not holding everything inyou know I mean if you were totake away all the bad things about alcoholwhich a lot there's obviously a tonand be able to sort of look at the good partabout it of what it actually does for peopleand opens them up now of coursethere's the flip side of that
11:58where it can make you belligerent and bring out rageand interestingly enough though those are all thingsthat probably need to be worked onfrom a psychological aspect you know what I'm sayingum but um but yeah so it's interesting too because today we already live in an anxious we'vealways lived we were an anxious species you know what i'm saying like that's primal we have to haveanxiety it's how we have survived you know but now today anxiety is so rampant you know with kidsand everything else that people are using essentially not just enjoying you know they're using
12:37And so it's important to sort of watch what you're doing, watch the amount that you're drinking, and then have those moments, you know.And that's why I'm excited to talk to you, honestly, because I actually was listening to a book by Alan Carr.You know, Alan Carr?Yeah.Okay.He has something similar, right?I forget the exact title, but he has one to quit drinking.First of all, his quit smoking one was famous, but he had one to quit drinking and another one to, like, sort of cut down on drinking.
13:06And that's something that I was curious about doing.And it was much harder than I thought.It's been great so far.Yeah, I know, I guess.So if you can just get into sort of how you, how this happened,why you decided to sort of focus in on that,I'm sure it was from personal experience.And then how you found the best ways to sort of at least start the journey
13:32into semi-sobriety.Yeah.well, it's actually a funny story.It all kind of happened by accident,which sounds ridiculous because it is.But I'm going to take you back to 2016 in New York Citywhen I was working as an entertainment journalist on the red carpetand that filled my evenings.
13:59I would go to after parties.I would sometimes grab dinner with friendsin between the red carpet and after parties.if I wasn't attending the movie premiere.But during the day, while all my friends had corporate jobs,I was writing about food and beverage and primarily alcohol.So, you know, living in New York, having an entertainment job,working in booth, and dating in New York City, really there were just,
14:26alcohol was everywhere all the time.And even if I wasn't drinking every day, it was not frowned upon if I was, you know,doing it all on the job.so fast forward to the end of 2016I grabbed dinner with a friendand he brings up this thing called dry Januaryhe had asked me if I was you know doing any New Year's resolutionsand I said no I said those are silly
14:50so if I wanted to change something I'll do it you know tomorrow or a MondayI'm not waiting until January 1st and yeah oncehe explained dry January I changed the subject I thoughtthat was something I would never do. It did not align with my life or my job and just living in NewYork and being in, you know, my 20s. I was like, why? Like, I don't have a problem. Like, I'm notsigning up for this. But lo and behold on New Year's Eve, I was drinking and was, you know,tipsily texting my friends who weren't at this party and wishing them a happy New Year.and I decided to propose this bet to my friend
15:31that we would both try a dry Januaryand mind you, he was going out more than I wasand so I thought my odds were really goodand whoever won our betessentially would have dinner paid forby the loser of our betanywhere in New York City, which is not cheap.Wow, I can get very expensive.
15:55Listen, he's in finance, so I don't think thatHe had as much anxiety as I did as a realtor.But I was willing to bet on myself, even in my tipsy state.And so at midnight, our bet began.And I went an entire 31 days without drinking alcohol.He lost.After about like two and a half, three weeks, he met a girl at a bar who peer-wiredhim into drinking.
16:22And that was it.I completed my, you know, my bet.He bought me dinner at a lovely Michelin Star restaurant that unfortunately closed recently.But to this day, he still won't bet me anything ever again.And I say that we both won because I ended up dedicating my first book to him.Oh, wow.And he actually completed a dry January about two years ago, finally, after like almost eight years of this.So I'm proud of him.
16:53We're still friends.And, and yeah, I just, you know, everything in that month, as cliche as it sounds, it changed so much for me.It changed my sleep.My skin was looking better.My mood was so much more elevated.I was obviously saving money on, you know, not spending it on alcohol or Ubers or, you know, munchies at 2 a.m., which are never healthy, right?It's always like fries and, you know, videos.It's never like a kale salad, but I have just done dry January every year since.
17:31Okay, that's the positives.Yeah, did it affect anything else, though, you know, in the negative way?Because the fear is, is I can't be social.I won't have as much fun.I'm not going to stay out and party as much as I normally did.I'm going to be home by 1030 because I'm like, kind of like, this isn't fun.You know, I mean, my friend going out with friends to bars and.you know, the lifestyle that you have sort of ingrained, and I'm speaking for you, but I'm also
17:55speaking for myself, essentially, you know, was it hard to get past that?Yes and no. I still went to bars. I still hung out the same people. I definitely got a bit ofattitude from those same people who were, you know, wondering why I was giving up alcohol for a monthif I was just going to drink on February 1st anyway, right? That was their big question. Like,this isn't permanent you don't have a problem like why are you doing this and i definitely felta difference in dating i think for the better and for maybe a little bit like unexpectedly i wouldn'tsay for the worst just different um you know people who i thought would be like cool and likeunbothered by my decision making were a little bit more pushy than i anticipated but
18:48you knowI do have to say that wasalmost eight years agothis is you know I'm going into mythis will be my ninth dry Januarycoming up this January andI think that people have becomedefinitely kinder and more
19:04inclusive and accepting and evenyou know restaurant and bar menus reflectthat so I think nowthe conversation isn'tyou know do you have a problem orare you pregnant or is there a healthconcern or you know what'swrong with you, I think that people are a little bit more kind. And, you know, they understand that
19:27you might be taking a night off. You might be taking a lifetime off. And like, that's okay.But yeah, to answer your question, definitely some good things and, you know, some shocking,not so friendly things. But I still went out. Yeah. And was it hard to begin with? Like,fuck, man, everyone's having like a cocktail. Like, what? You know, yeah. But, like,like also no like I think that I was really motivated by the fact that I did not want to losethis bed and I this was also like one of my closest friends so if we weren't together in thesame room you know I did have at least sometimes you know people who were there who were likeyeah you have to beat him like you can't like let us down you know what I mean um I don't know I think
20:16I just started feeling betterlike 10 days inand I feel like that also motivated meto like keep doing.Yes. Yes.But I also knew thatagain, like this was notfor me
20:28as somebody who's not in recoverythis was not a lifetime pledge.So for me like thinking likeokay I can do this for 31 days.Like I can do anything for 31 days.Yeah.September always feels likethe start of something.
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25:34Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.So after that jam,that first January,were you motivated to keep going?I was like February's here?Like, let's go.For the first couple of years,like February 1st, I went,
25:54you know, headfirst into acocktail.Right.It was not the best decision.I don't know why I had to make that mistakeseveral times, but like,I remember that first year,I had like the worst red wine hangover of my life.
26:08And I had maybe two glasses.And that really speaks to,you know clean you are I mean my tolerance was so low but I was yeah I was in a lot of pain umI think towards maybe like year four I extended it you know into February I've gone as long asyou know six months without alcohol and and now I do a number of other dry months like I always doa sober October now and sometimes I'll do like sober September um it just kind of depends likeI'm also a really big advocate of trying non-alcoholic beverages.And so when people ask me for advice, I want to be able to tell them, like, this is comparable.
26:51So I'm not against, you know, like sipping a cocktail or a glass of wine in order to, for the educational purposes of it all.Right.Well, the whole mocktail world is kind of blowing up.Blowing up.Yeah.I mean, my daughter, you know, always like, I'm getting in a mock tail.And, you know, she loves them.Yeah.
27:10But do you attribute that to people just trying to cut back on drinkingand wanting to have the experience of having a drink that looks like a cocktailthat doesn't have alcohol for social purposes, I guess?I think for a ton of reasons.I think that, for one, people want to have something that's sophisticated.They want to sip on it.They're not looking to chug like a glass of water at a bar.right yeah and I also think that like I kind of like chalk it up to the same for equal experience of like having a tasting menu with like wines right
27:52you want to still enjoy like food pairings and that social experience and you know sharing a drink with friends and not being like on the completely opposite side of the spectrum which like there's nothing wrong with Diet Coke I will drink 10 a dayI could take it, but, you know, like sometimes you just, you want to feel like you're having an adult drink just without booze.Yeah.And what have you, so, okay, how many books have you written?So I've written three.Okay.And two are in the sober curious space.Okay.
28:27And then you got one coming out in September, right?Right.So that's the third.Okay.And what's the third?So it's called Going Dry.Okay.It is a workbook with like 70 plus activities and journaling prompts.
28:40and, you know, ways for the reader to record how they're feeling and really evaluate their relationship with alcohol and, you know, drinking less.Does it help you get through a dry month?Yeah.It does.Yeah.You know, what's funny is I think that it's easy to remember, like, the sum of your month, right?Like, I can sit here and tell you, like, I had, you know, clear skin and I felt better.And some people know that they lose, you know, a certain amount of weight over time.
29:13I don't because I replace my booze with ice cream.But I think that it is so important to like jot down exactly how you're feeling and record like how many hours of sleep, you know, do I have.I wear, you know, a whoop and that recording sleep because I'm lazy.But I think it's just so telling because now even when I'll have a drink, I'll see how that affects me.um and you know even my mood like sometimes it'll be a beautiful day i'll have like the bestweekend and i'm like why do i feel so down and then i have to remember like oh i had aglass of wine the other night and it's probably still affecting me in some way um so yeah i thinkit's important to you know really track like your feelings like you're you know physically
29:59mentally emotionally well it's funny because people drink there's a million different reasonswhy people drink. I mean, no one drinks for health. You're drinking to be social. You're drinkingbecause of pain. You're drinking because you have anxiety. I mean, there's all different reasonswhy people drink. The best way to drink is because you're out with your friends and you want to havea good time, right? Right. But the interesting thing about alcohol, and I'm only, I'm speaking fromexperience because, you know, I have anxiety and, you know, life is crazy and you can drinkand you can alleviate that for the time being. But the problem is, is that alcohol perpetuatesthose feelings. It masks them, but then makes them worse. You know, when you have a hangover,
30:50your anxiety is exacerbated 10x. You know what I'm saying? And there's just this awful,horrible feeling. But then you have to drink again to sort of get back into that.place of normality, normalcy. And you're chasing, you're just chasing, chasing. I've experienced thatbefore. And then once you come off of it for three, four, even four, five days, the clarity thatyou have, you know, just the life force that you have again is so amazing. It feels good to feel good,you know. But there's also a part of you thinking, am I missing out on something? When in reality,you're fucking not you know um and i think taking a month to actually experience feeling goodand and feeling what your best self could feel like it's probably one of the great things
31:48you can do because you've given yourself an example of your potential you know um are theretricks because we're just based on willpower it's just like okay it's dry january okayfuck off alcohol and you know here we go but that's that's that's hard to do when you have patternsyou know yeah there are a lot of tips that i have that i think can help sustain that you knowpositive attitude because i think everyone starts off really strong and that first weekend rollsaround and they're like itching to go to happy hour you know it's like oh what am i doing now soI always sayit's a great idea to recruit
32:35a friend. You don'thave to make a bet like I didand I certainly think that motivatedme, but I thinkhaving a friend who willbe there to, you know,listen to the ups and downs andyou'll be able to cheerlead for them too
32:51is really helpfuland you can vent to them.I know that my friend and I, we hadlike the funniest textchain going back and forth for along time being like oh it sucks to be with people who are so drunk right now but you know that wasalso a reason to it was probably time to go home um so that's that's number one is recruit a friendsomebody who's going to back you up and cheer you on and you'll do the same for them uh number two is
33:19i always say take the lead in making plans so even if your friday night um always revolves aroundgoing to a bar, I would just like take the reins in your friend group and say, we're going to dothis instead and find a way that makes you comfortable even if they are drinking, like make sureyou're going to a bar with non-alcoholic options or you're, I don't know, maybe you're goingbowling so that you have something to do with your hands or like, you know, some other activitythat isn't centered around booze. I think that's really important. The third is trying onalcoholic beverages. There are so many wine, beer, and spirits that are non-alcoholic that areactually good. There are websites like Better Roads is one. They have a huge selection of all
34:08of those things and even pre-made cocktails. There's even functional cocktails now, like a brand calledDOMO that, you know, will just like kind of release the same energy as. Yeah, I've been readingabout these where it's like it's non-alcoholic, but it's giving you a,a you know a sensation of some kind exactly that's not caffeine or anything but like that'sgetting some sort of and you're still good to drive and you're still good to make decisions and you knowyou're not going to be waking up the next day and being like oh my god what did I do last night sothat's another tip and I think above all I think it's just so so important to be kind to yourselfthroughout the entire process.
34:52I always say that even if you're, you know, doing a dry January and you have a drinkor you have a night of drinking, just start again the next day.Like, you don't have to be perfect.It's not about punishing yourself.It's really about seeing how alcohol affects your day-to-day life, what your relationship is to it,and, you know, just drinking less.I think less is better, is more, right?I think you make a great point.
35:21Be kind to yourself.Because not just with this, but anything that you're trying to do and make a habit of in a good way,meaning meditation or not drinking or, you know, working out and you set goals for yourselfand you set schedules, when you mess up, we tend to fucking beat ourselves up instead ofYou're like, hey, you know what?Okay.It's all right.Whatever, you know?
35:51Why am I?Be kind to yourself here.So the meditation didn't go great.It's not exactly perfect the way that you want it to go.Okay, whatever.So it's dry January and I had, oh, man, I had the cocktails with my friends.It was an amazing night.We went to this concert and it was incredible and a memory I'll never forget.
36:09Okay.Start over.Be kind to yourself.I think that's an important message for sure.You know.Now, what about?What if I want to smoke weed during my dry January?I say, first of all, no judgment.
36:24However, it's not like an excuse to dabble in other things.But everybody has their own rules, right?Like some people are sober.Some people are totally sober.Some people, they do their own thing.So it's your adventure.It's your time.But we definitely don't want to like,
36:46replace the alcohol with other things potentially we're just we're trying to be as clear as possibleyeah yeah i know well i think i draw the line there i probably going to have to smoke a joint atnight i appreciate your honesty yeah it's just it's you know it's just got it's just that's just that'sgot to happen you know so when you were did your drinking ever get bad i mean were you everdrinking like getting hammered and you know sloppy and bad bad you know i live in new yorkit happens yeah i actually recently wrote a piece for the knot about attending my cousin'sbachelor at party and like telling the group of other um individuals on this trip that i needed to liketake a rest on the subway platform and like lie my head on somebody's like double
37:49back so like listen like I've had my fun I've had my whatever it is I I never had a dependency issueand certainly you know looking back I think that every I shouldn't say everyone but I think a lotof people have you know moments in their lifetime where they are like that's a little curiousBut, no, for the most part, you know, just living my life as a 20-something in New York had its stories.How old are you?Now I'm like, how old am I? I'm 36.Okay.Yeah.
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43:32So what's this dry dating that you've talked about?yeah that was a fun one um so i'm now engaged congratulations thanks um but you know for for a number of yearsespecially during my dry months i was single and i remember that first year and the second yearit was just a very interesting conversation to have with people um especially like that first yearI was not planning on doing a dry month.I, you know, made a bet at midnight, like, went home to my apartment that night slash morning, active ball drops, woke up in my apartment and I was like, oh, my God, there are bottles of wine everywhere.There is, you know, a bar cart with everything.Like, what am I doing?
44:21So I think that explaining to people that I was, like, dating at the time, like, you know, each year, like, I'm just, I'm not going to have.go on these like dates where we're drinking it was a little bit of an adjustment but again likei think some people were gun ho and like were really supportive and also wanted me to win that betand other people just didn't get it and i think for me that became a red flag like if this personisn't supporting something that is beneficial to my health and you know just me being a curiousas a person and seeing how it turns out, then when I tell you the other goals and weird thingsthat I think are cool and that I want to accomplish, like, how are you going to react?And I think that was very eye-opening to me.
45:11You know, if somebody was pushy about like, oh, you should be drinking or like, it's just aone, I was like, you're not my person.So the idea is, is finding someone who is accepting of that part of you.yeah i think also as far as dry dating goes yeah given that it's it's 31 days and i was not imposingthese rules on them right they could drink if they wanted to yeah i was just like i'm not drinkingbut why is that bothering you well it's it's just uh you know they're projecting that's just selfreflective essentially you know if i have a problem you're not drinking it's like whatyou're telling me that i have a problem i mean that's internally subconsciously i'm sure
45:56that's what they're saying to themselves you know yeah also like as we were saying likedrinking means different things to different people it means fun it means bonding it meanscelebration so when you tell someone I'm not drinking and they associate drinking with funcelebration bonding you know togetherness it can get a little bit fuzzy I think on the receivingend so yeah I think it was just an easier way to like weed out you know yeahperson not my person and what about your man now what's what are his drinking habits he loves tequilahe drinks he definitely drinks less since we started dating yeah but you know we met in december of2021 and i think it must have been like our second date and i was like by the way i'm not going to be
46:49drinking next month and he was like oh like what is that like he's yeah he's you know he's youknow a casual social drinker yeah does he do is he done dry January he has not again likei'm not i'm not pushing it on him he's done under dry like 31 days oh he has yeah and he also likehe played baseball in college so like they were pretty strict about you know yeah yeah yeah all thatstuff um but yeah that's great wedding date uh don't have one yet i already decided i'm going to have aalcoholic cocktail is like my signature cocktail.Yeah, yeah.But no, we haven't planned yet.
47:32Well, don't get married in January.No.I don't think I can.It's going to be like, I think it would just be like a little too busy for me.We cannot get married in January.This is, you know, it's your wedding.Like, we need to be free and clear to do what we want.It's also freezing in New York.
47:47It's freezing.Yeah, forget about that.Yeah, no.Or October.If you do sober October, October, October is beautiful in New York, though, right?Yes.Yeah.But we can't do so.
47:56October on your wedding, can we?You know, we can do whatever.I don't know.We'll see.I'll report back to you after the wedding.If I am working on, you know, at my wedding, maybe I will.Maybe I won't.I don't want to add stress to the day either.
48:13Yeah.Do you have any take on sort of these, you know, psilocybin and, you know, the sort of thesenew psychedelic wave of, you know, not just there's a healing aspect to it.there's a medicinal aspect to it, but do you have opinions on that at all? I know we're talkingabout alcohol, but, you know, this is a, it's a substance. It's hard to call it a narcotic.I would call alcohol more of a narcotic than I would, you know, THC, honestly, or maybe evena psilocybin. But do you have any thoughts about that at all?You know, I'm not a medical doctor, so I can't say like, right, no, of course not.
48:52or bad or, you know, and I think that people should also talk to their doctors and, like,you know, discuss why they're interested in these things. Right. Um, I think it works for people.It does. And I think for other people, it doesn't. So it's hard to say. That's, that's,that's all I can say about that. Okay. Um, well, thanks for talking, you know, September 3rd, right?Is it when the book comes out? Going dry. Going dry. Going dry. Well, I will check in with you and let youknow what I'm doing.I will check in with you.I hope that you have a wonderful rest of the month, whether it is dry or demies.
49:29I'm trying.I'm trying.I mean, for me, it's starting slow.You know what I mean?It's like, well, okay, let's just try to live every day and see where I'm at with the drinkingpart, meaning, you know, yesterday we biked into, you know, a place called Woody CreekTavern, which is just fun day, and you have beers and da-da-da-da. And I was like, I'm not going to drink.And I didn't have beers. When I sat down at the table, it was difficult. And I was like,
50:00I'll have an Arnold Palmer. Like, yeah. After you get over that initial shock, then you feel good,you know. I didn't go out to dinner with my family last night because I didn't want to have amartini. And I knew that I kind of would if I went out to dinner, you know. So I'm trying littlethings.Okay.Have you dabbled in the non-alcoholic beverages?No, I haven't.Okay.
50:26I haven't, and I probably should.I just don't quite understand them, you know, because...I'm going to send you some?Yeah.Okay.Do you have a...Do you have a company or something?No, but I know a lot of people in the state.
50:42Yeah.No, definitely.I'd love to try, you know.It's just for me,it's not about the social aspect of having a drink that looks like a drink in my hand.It's about the actual drink itself, and I do love martinis, and I do love certain drinks ora nagroney or whatever, and it's the taste, and it's the feeling, and it's that moment.You know what I mean?
51:07But I'll try it because I'm just closed-minded to it, honestly.And I'm a very open-minded human, so I should probably open my mind to it and give it a shot.yeah for sure yeah i'd love to send me some um you'll get my email and stuff send me somebrands or something that you know i can pick up or something like that what i'll do is i'll sendyou a list of some brands that i like and their links yeah great or i'll just send you like allof all of them whatever great yeah i would love that yeah get my email because i would like to i wouldlike to, you know, because, and then I'll let you go, but I'm just, I just, you feel so muchfucking better when you're not drinking, you know, it's just, it's just a fact, you know, and then
51:54have those moments, have those nights, have those crazy fun nights, but then like, dang, youdon't need to drink every day. That's where I want to get to. Because again, it's that sobercurious. I don't need to be sober, sober, you know, it's not affecting my life and ruining mylife. It's just ruining the way that I feel. Right. I don't like feeling like shit.sides. Yeah, and I'm almost 50. I'll be 48 in September. It's like, get your shit together, dude,you know. What are you going to do for your birthday? Get hammered. No, no, no, no, uh, no.Well, if you go the rest of the month and you don't drink and you have one drink, you will get hammered.Yes, no, I know. I've noticed that. Even five days. The other day when I'm in Colorado right now,
52:37I went five days without drinking. And then, um, you know, we, it was, we were celebrating someone who'sforming and i was like all right we'll have a night and you know i had like a couple martinis and acouple cocktails like maybe four or five which for me is on normally sadly it's that's notenough to like put me over the edge but i was so hung over the next day you know because even fivedays without alcohol it's just like i you know so but my birthday i don't know i don't care aboutmy birthday everyone else does like we're going to do this we're going to have a part of likewhatever whatever you want to do i don't know i don't care i don't care but i probably will havecocktails on my birthday fair fair thank you so much you this is inspiring and lightning yep
53:26have a good one all right see you later wow she's so healthy everything about her like attitudeis just like so healthy you know she probably feels great you know um all right that was funmore alcohol things like this is starting to become a pattern like you know that everyone's goingto think that i'm a an alcoholic i'm not god damn it i'm just trying to become a better personby the time i'm 50 healthy body uh anyway i'm going to go now and not have a cocktailit's raining but you know it'll be great right now like ia hot toddy you know what i mean like whiskey hot water honey lemon and like a cinnamon stickin the rain in colorado ooh see why does that give me a boner you know what i mean it's like
54:30instead of just sitting you know looking at the rain reading a book great but the real boner popswhen you've got a hot toddy next to youwhile you're doing the same thing.Anyway, let's stop talking about that.All right, I'm out.I'm out of here.Hi, it's Honey German,and I'm back with season two of my podcast.
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