Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Revel In It: Lilly King
Episode Date: July 11, 2024Lilly King is Paris bound! The Olympic swimmer intends to make a splash at the Paris Olympics, which won’t be hard considering she comes from a family of athletes. But was she always a great swimm...er? And will this be her last Olympics? Plus, find out her biggest dream yet! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi, I'm Kate Hudson.
And my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
And would it's like to be siblings?
We are a sibling rivalry.
No, no.
Sibling reverie.
Don't do that with your mouth.
Sibling
Reveory.
That's good.
So yesterday
played golf
and
I was with a buddy
who were driving back.
I'm in Colorado, by the way.
With my new sexy voice.
And I saw the river.
We drove past the river.
Stopped at the river.
And jumped in the river with all my clothes on.
And it was amazing.
Cold water is amazing.
I know you think I might sound crazy.
But it's just invigorating.
And you sort of find a little eddy and you dive
under and the river water is washing over you and you feel like it's washing away all of the bad
shit you know what i mean and then you come out of the river like a like a river dolphin and all of a
sudden you're in slow motion because you're shaking your head and waters flying everywhere and
super slow mo and then you breach and then you stand up and boom you you
are a new human being you have become you went from man to river dolphin to new man that's how i felt
and then i get into my car with all my wet clothes and then 10 minutes later i'm the same person so i
moral of this story is you have to live in a river to be the best person you can be
Oh man, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, but it was, it was a really amazing experience.
I suggest everyone who is near a river or a cold body of water, jump in it.
Change your life.
Anyway, we've got Lily King waiting in the wings and perfect timing.
The Paris Olympics are right around the corner.
Cannot wait.
I am a true fan of the Olympics.
I will be hosting up watching.
my girl Lily King
compete and win
she's already won
you know before
and
I'm excited to talk to her
let's bring her in
let's talk to an Olympian
someone who's accomplished
way more shit than I have
Hey how's it going
How are you?
I'm doing great how are you
Where are you?
I am in Raleigh right now
in a hotel
And when do you go to Paris
so we are here for another day and then yeah we leave for Croatia for another training camp tomorrow
okay yeah so then we're in Croatia for another week and then Paris after that okay so yeah
lots to get into first of all let's start with your birth was it a good birth no was my birth wasn't
in case you want to know I came out you know I was born in 76 and I guess back in the day
they just let you cook in there until you wanted to come out,
which of course now is not how it works.
So, you know, I basically ate shit and almost died.
I had maconium.
I crapped out maconium and in the womb and inhaled it.
So I had like a 30% chance of living.
Like I did not have a nice entry into this world.
So I'm sure yours was much better than mine.
You made it so we're good.
I think my mom has spared me the dirty details,
which I, after hearing that, I think I appreciate.
Oh, yeah, yeah, no, no.
But you know, you know, it was really amazing.
I'm talking about myself, but, you know, we'll get into everything.
But it was amazing.
I, my first baby, Wilder, I was, he was born in the same hospital that I was born at.
And he, he was C-section, so I was there for four days.
And I go up to the NICU because that's where I was sort of taken care of and nursed back to hell.
you know and i go up there and they're like oh sir you can't be in here you know this is not you
have a child and i'm like no and i'm like i'm sorry i said i was here 30 years ago
and they're like oh oh that's crazy and i'm being escorted out of there and these two nurses
heard me say my name oliver hudson and they're like wait a minute are you oliver and i said
yeah and they like got emotional they were the nurses who took care of me
when i was an infant there and a baby's fighting for my life
It was unbelievable.
That is wild.
That's absolutely wild.
Oh, it was crazy.
It was just crazy.
I got to go in and see the babies.
I mean, it was really emotional for me, but amazing.
Amazing.
Anyway, there's a little piece of history.
Okay, so I want to get into growing up, you know, your siblings.
You have one son sibling, a brother?
Okay, I was reading about how you guys pushed each other competitively and everything that you did.
You know, talk about that.
And did it ever get, like, bad, like contentious?
Yeah.
It did.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it definitely, it still gets bad.
Does it?
I remember I was trying to, he's the only person I'm trying to beat on my crossword in the morning.
So.
But yeah, our parents are, we're both D1 athletes.
So my dad ran cross country.
My mom swam.
So it was always just very competitive in our household.
Like everything was a race.
everything was a competition and that's just kind of how it was.
So the two of us were only 11 months apart.
So I always had someone to race.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So we're very close in age.
We're the same age for 10 days during the year.
Oh, my God.
That's amazing.
So, yeah, it was one we did different things for a long time.
And like I kind of always had like swimming was my thing.
And music was a little.
more his thing, but then he got into swimming.
Luckily, we swam different strokes, different events.
So we didn't have, like, too much of a competitive fire in terms of, like, our main
events, but at practice, we'd still race every day.
And, yeah, it would get, it'd get pretty intense.
It would.
Yeah.
Yeah, but isn't that great, though?
I mean, as long as it's healthy, you know, it's just such a driving force, you know,
that competitive nature will only make both of you better in whatever it is you're trying
to achieve.
Yeah, I think so. And it ended up, we took two very different paths in life. I couldn't say very different paths. He did end up swimming in college at Michigan, but, you know, as a kid, like swimming was always my thing. It was, it was something that I was, I was extremely passionate about. And he was kind of like, okay, like I kind of like it. But, and he had never even slammed me around until he went to college. He slammed at Michigan. And then, yeah, ended up swimming at Michigan.
improving a lot once he got to college ended up being a big 10 champion and uh setting a big 10
record um and then obviously my career has had taken off as it did right and then you're like fuck you look
where i am yeah but it's just cool i think you know i like to i like to tell kids and i do clinics
like we had two we could not have had two more different paths to get to success in the sport and
there are so many different ways you can do it yeah yeah so when did you know well
it's interesting you just said your mom was a swimmer right so my whole family are actors everyone
every one of us and my kids want to be actors kate's kids want to be actors you emulate you know so
I'm assuming she was a big part of why you wanted to get into the pool oh I think she was the
biggest part of why I wanted to get into the pool yeah yeah definitely yeah so when you jumped
in was it just like okay this is what I want to do I mean was it just natural for you um
love was very natural for it, I think, but me being good at it was definitely not natural.
I was not good when I started.
I was probably swimming year-round for four or five years before I really started to see any success in the sport.
So it was always the thing that I loved to do, but it wasn't necessarily the thing I was best at when I was younger.
How did, okay, so how old were you, those four years, like from what to what before you started to see some success?
probably from around like eight to 12 okay and do you what do you attribute that to like how come
you weren't finding and then bang at 12 or 13 I was like oh shit here we here we are yeah yeah I think
um I just I for some reason I just loved it um and there was really nothing that was that deep about
it like I just I just enjoyed the competition I think I enjoyed seeing that I could um make small
improvements every time that I raced. And I really enjoyed beating people. I still enjoy beating
people. I think that's really what it came down to. And I thought it was really cool that I could go to
a meet one weekend and beat somebody I had never, never beaten before. So I think that was probably
where the love for it probably first came from.
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When did you become, through on people's radars?
Like, she can really swim.
Like, this could be real.
Yeah, I had probably two moments that were really important in my development as a swimmer.
So as cheesy as this sounds now, that first.
big moment was when I was 12 and I won my first state title, which is funny now, like
how many kids have won a state title, like a zillion. But that was kind of the first moment I was able
to see that work really pay off. So that was a big, big one. And then the second one, I was,
I was 16 and I won junior nationals for the first time. And I had set, I had set a national age group
records. I was the fastest girl 16 and under to ever swim the 100 breast. So that was that was
really kind of that next step into having that self-belief of I can make the Olympic team. So yeah,
two very different but very big moments. Yeah. And then how do you determine your best stroke?
You know what I mean? Like how did did you try things out? And I was like, wait a minute,
this is where I excel. Yeah. No, definitely. There are.
are a lot of people in the sport that kind of switch events. That was not me. I swim breaststroke
and breaststroke is kind of like the weird stroke in swimming. But it's, it's one that's,
I don't necessarily know if I have anything else to compare it to. But it's kind of one,
like if you're a breaststroke or you can only do breaststroke and you've probably only
been able to do breaststroke your whole life. So the hunter breast is my best event and it's
been my best event since I was eight years old. So that's kind of cool. Yeah.
Yeah. Wow. So talk about the commitment. You know what I mean? Like it's to become an elite athlete, you know, and to rise, you know, to the level of success that you have. I mean, the commitment there must be just so intense. And then balancing that with your life, you know, because as a swimmer, I'm assuming you make money through sponsorships and stuff. But, you know, a lot of these Olympians,
you know need jobs so how did that how did you have balanced all of all that yeah i was um i was
very lucky i got fast at a pretty young age so um so yeah i won my i won my first gold medal
uh in 2016 and i was 19 um so success really fell into my lap i think at a good time
um but yeah it's it's one where i train like just training 25 hours a week probably
And on top of that, you have to always make sure you're eating the right things and make sure you're getting enough sleep.
And, you know, at this point in my career, I'm one of the elder statesmen at 27.
So, you know, it's making sure you're taking care of your body.
And it's really, really a 24-7 job.
So it's a lot.
There are a lot of things I can't do.
I don't really like to say the word sacrifices because I think in the end it's worth it.
But, you know, if it's outside of the month of August or September, like, I probably can't come to your wedding or.
going on vacation and if I do, I have to make sure I have somewhere to train and time to train.
And it just, it's a lot.
It's definitely, yeah, definitely 24-7 job for sure.
So you're training all year round.
Yeah, all year.
Oh, my God.
Is there ever been burnout with you?
Oh, of course.
But I still go to practice.
Yeah.
So I think, I think, you know, there are moments in probably everyone's career, but especially, you know,
mine at this point where I've I've just been so fried like I can't I can't even function but I
still have to get up and go to practice every morning so you find a way to make it work and so after
Paris are you hanging it up um not yet I'm I'm getting there um so Paris will be my last
Olympics um I'm not going to go for another four years um but but yeah in in between Paris and
in L.A. I will be hanging up the goggles at some point.
And is that an exciting moment? I know it's bittersweet, but, you know, it will allow you to
sort of move on to the next chapter, which I'm sure will involve swimming some way, right?
Yeah, absolutely. I think it is really bittersweet, especially, I was telling somebody the other
day, like, this is my last Olympics, but there's still things about it that feel like a first.
So I think that's really cool and special to be able to step back and realize that this is it.
But there are also some new things that go into my third Olympics.
But yeah, I think it's time.
I think my body's ready.
I think my mind is ready.
But yeah, I've done everything I've ever wanted to do in my career, which is something I don't think very many people get to say.
Yeah, no, it's amazing.
Yeah, it's a decision I think I'm pretty at peace with.
So the first Olympics, just walk me through the moment, you know what I mean, when you, when you qualified and you made the Olympics.
I mean, what does that feel like?
I mean, that's fucking incredible.
I mean, you probably knew you were going to.
You know, I feel like you were like, no, this is where I belong.
You know, yeah, I'm happy, but like this is not a surprise, right?
I mean, I feel like you're that person.
Yeah, you know, that's actually, that's 100% sure.
at that point in time I was um so 2016 was the year it was following the summer following my
freshman year college I had an absolutely stellar freshman year um improved a lot a lot and I was
at least in my mind pretty much invincible um I was going the best time every time I was hitting
the water nobody could keep up all the sudden and I was really just living the best life I could
have ever imagined yeah so yeah when I when I made it um I obviously
extremely excited but it was almost a thigh of relief um doing you know just dealing with trials um we
always say trials is is a lot harder to swim at than the olympics so it's a lot more stressful um
a lot more things can go wrong at that meet so uh so yeah very excited and felt like i was doing
what i was always supposed to do but also just extremely relieved so the Olympic experience
and this is going to be a third one you've already had too so for
Forget about those swimming for a second, you know, which, of course, that's what you're there for.
But what about the whole experience, you know, the village and people and camaraderie or, you know,
is it amazing? Is it not? Is it, you know, what is that like? What's the internal Olympics, you know?
Yeah. Yeah. No, it's, it's really cool. I'm excited this time around. This is something I feel like
that is a first to, like, really fully embrace everything.
Um, just because Rio was so new and I didn't know anybody and I never, I never been in a meet like that before.
Um, and then Tokyo was weird because there weren't fans and we couldn't really gather or have fun.
Um, but yeah, it's a weird one.
It's really cool being able to stay in a village where there are people from literally everywhere in the world.
Um, you know, I have obviously like, I see a lot of people from a lot of different countries within the swimming world.
but um there are a lot of people that are competing in track or canoe or you know basketball
whatever that you would never see um like i saw yow ming in the village like what was i ever going to
see yow me you know so it's it's really cool to be able to like witness the people that are there
and that are also just excited to just be competing in the Olympics like um you know at least within
the swimming community the u.s we're just dressed out because we just want to swim fast and and we're
there with medals, but there are a lot of people, the majority of people that are there,
just there to celebrate their accomplishments and be able to compete in the Olympics,
which is kind of a refreshing viewpoint on it, I think.
Yeah, it's interesting because, you know, U.S. is just so dominant and swimming.
You have countries coming in who are like, there's no fucking way I'm going to win.
So I'm going to do my best, but I'm going to have a great time while I'm here.
Yeah.
It's almost this liberating experience.
because it's like, there's no world where I'm winning.
I'm going to, but I'm, so I'm going to have fun.
Yeah, and they do.
And it's, it's really cool to, and I hope this happens again because it didn't happen in
Tokyo, but every night in the village, like people just congregate in the common areas
that are pretty much having a party every night.
So, yeah, it's really cool.
It's cool to be able to celebrate with everybody.
Yeah.
Are there ever, you know, obviously team camaraderie is huge, but is there ever that, you know,
when you get enough people together, there's going to be issues.
There's going to be people who don't like people.
And, I mean, does that happen within a team where it's like, yeah, we're a team,
but you know what, you don't like me?
I don't like you.
This is the way it is.
Yeah, I definitely.
I mean, we've got a lot of egos on the scene.
I'm not going to.
Exactly.
That's going to my next point is like when you're a winner, those big ass egos, they can clash, you know?
Yes, they do.
And, yeah, just a lot of big egos.
a lot of big personalities.
You don't get to the pinnacle, the sport
and being the best of the best
without, I think, having a super
a lot of personality a lot of the time.
So, yeah, we do have some issues.
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Hey, it's your favorite jersey girl, Gia Judice.
Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I share my story.
This week, I'm sitting down with Vanderpump Rule Star, Sheena Shea.
I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest.
There will be an occasional text one way or the other from me to Ariana.
maybe a happy birthday from Ariana to me.
I think the last time I talked to Tom,
it was like, congrats on America's Got Talent.
This is a combo you don't want to miss.
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My name is Nicole Garcia,
and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture.
It was a huge honor to become a television writer
because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional.
It feels like Bob Dylan going electric,
that this is something we've been doing for a hundred of years.
You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence.
That's Sierra Taylor Ornellis, who with Rutherford Falls
became the first native showrunner in television history.
On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges,
we explore her story, along with other native stories,
such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con
or the importance of reservation basketball.
every day native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world
influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream listen to burn sageburn bridges
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are there captains meaning like you as being the elder states person as you said
it's like all right it's your job now to fucking get these people together meaning if there's some
shit going on. It's like, okay, you, like, I know we all have egos, but I've won more medals
than you. I have seniority. So here's what we're going to do. You guys got to get it together.
Yeah, yeah. We do have captains. Sometimes, like, you will have to keep people in check.
But the great thing about swimming is it as much as we're like, it's a team sport. It's not a team
sport. It's not it. Right. Yeah. Like, unless you're on a relay together, if you're going to fight,
you're going to fight. It's okay. You know, we all have the same goal in the end. So as long as you get
your shit done like who cares yeah yeah yeah so how many metals how many metals do we have here
where are you at what's your metal count Olympic medals Olympic medals I have five Olympic medals
so two gold two silver one bronze yeah that is so cool oh my gosh and so when you go over there
how long are you there before you actually swim that's a good question
I don't actually know.
You don't know?
I'm going to say probably like a week.
Mm-hmm.
A week like in the village and then I swim early in the competition.
So I start swimming on day two.
Okay.
So yeah.
And then, you know, are you guys allowed to party and have fun?
I mean, no, it's up to you.
You're individuals, but is it so focused, you know, where this is the moment.
And so you're going to eat right.
You're not going to drink.
You're going to really stay on it.
Right.
Yeah.
I'm going to say it's pretty frowned upon if you if you begin your end of meat celebrations before the meat is over.
Or at least before your roommates are done swimming.
But yeah, I mean, I'm 27.
I'm going to enjoy myself once I'm done.
I'm not going to I'm not going to lie and sneak around like maybe I have in the past.
But yeah, like it's one where the, you know, what happens in the village stays in the village, I think.
Is that a thing?
Is that like a, it's like a Vegas vibe where it's like, you know,
happen to those days in the village.
Well, yeah, I think, you know, in Tokyo, I don't think they had this,
but I remember in Rio in the, in the dining hall, they had condom machines.
No, no, I know.
I read this.
Yeah.
Except they were super loud.
Right.
So anytime anybody would go get one of them.
And it would go all over the dining hall.
Oh, that looks so funny.
what you're doing.
Everyone looks like, oh, someone's getting a con.
Yeah, that's funny.
No, I heard that.
I heard because the STDs run rampant in the Olympic Village.
Like, I read something about that where it's like, now everyone we've got to be safe, you know.
Yeah.
Well, I think, I think a lot of it is that the athletes are on such a short leash all the time that when you let go of that leash, they're gone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, the village gets, gets pretty rowdy, I would say.
Do you live, do you, everyone lives in the village?
Is that sort of how it works?
So most everybody lives in the village.
It has started that some of the more high profile athletes and high profile sports
will stay in a hotel outside of the village.
Like the U.S. women's national team for soccer has stayed outside of the village.
Men's basketball stays outside of the village.
Yeah.
So they got to stay on a cruise ship in Tokyo and we were stuck in dorm rooms.
Oh, really? Yeah, I can't imagine like LeBron, LeBron, like, you know. Yeah. Yeah, but hey, Michael Phelps always stayed in the village. So did he? There you go, everybody. Yep, he was always in the village because swimming stays in the village. So he was with us in 16. Yeah. Yeah. Actually, no, I know, I know Michael a little bit. He's a, he's a really good dude, you know. Oh, yeah. He's awesome. Yeah, he's really cool. I played golf of them a bunch. And he's, uh, he's just a good human, you know.
You know.
Yes.
All right.
So how was the team this year?
Solid?
Yeah, I think so.
I think we're ready to go.
Yeah.
In 2021, we had like six or seven high schoolers on the team, which was pretty wild.
And all of those high schoolers have grown up.
So I think we've just got three on the team this year.
So it's a very, very experienced team.
I think they're ready to go.
I think everybody's looking pretty good.
And camp's been going really.
well. So yeah, I think I think we're already. And are you obviously gold, gold, gold.
That's the goal, you know, but will you be satisfied? How will you be satisfied at the end of
this Olympics being your last? You know, I mean, it's hard not to say gold, gold, gold,
but like do you in your mind have a goal? I think for me, like dream of all dreams, I want to win
the hundred breast again.
The 200 breasts, the girls have gotten a lot faster than they have been in the past two years, which kind of sucks.
But if I could just meddle in that, that'd be awesome.
And then the medley relay, I would like, I would like to win again.
I was on the pre-Lens relay last time and we ended up getting silver.
But that's, that's a relay.
Like, I just have such pride in that relay.
And we've been, we've been really dominant in it the last few years.
So that, yeah, two golds, I think, would be like the ultimate dream.
The ultimate.
Who's your main?
Who's in the 100?
Who's your main competition?
Yeah.
So there's a Chinese slimmer that just went just shy of my world record.
But a lot of the time, the Chinese slimmers swim really, really fast at Chinese nationals and then don't repeat it.
When they get to the big meet.
So her.
And then Ruta Militita won world championships last year.
She's Lithuanian.
and she should be really good, ready to go.
She actually won Olympic gold in 2012.
At 15, we're the same age, so that's kind of crazy.
Yeah, she should be on and ready to go, I think.
Do you get to swim against these girls, like, throughout the year in worlds or, you know, I mean, or is this like one time?
Like, boom, hey, how are you?
Let's go.
Yeah, it's usually once a year.
That's crazy.
So, yeah, it's kind of intense.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then there's another South African slimmer.
She won the silver in the hundred breast in Tokyo and gold in the 200 breaststroke,
Tatiana Smith.
And she's a lovely human.
I love her to death, but I don't want to beat me.
I was going to say, do you have relationships with some of these, you know, other athletes that aren't American?
I mean, do you connect and keep in touch?
Yeah, definitely.
We do have some meets like throughout the air.
Occasionally, like if people do World Cups, you get to, I guess, meet people and,
and make friends when we're at less serious competitions.
But yeah, I would say I have some friends from other places,
but not usually people that swim my races.
Do you have an idea when you do hang up the gogs?
What you might be doing?
I mean, do you have a plan?
I don't super have a plan, and I am so excited about that.
Oh, that's great.
Yeah, I think my life has been so, so,
planned out for the last 10 years that yeah um yeah i think i'm going to not do anything i'm going to do
a lot of clinics i love doing clinics um i love i love being able to reach as many club teams and
young swimmers as possible um that's kind of something that really warms my heart so um and i make
good money doing it so i think that's that's something i'll probably do and just hanging out the rest
of the time so how do you how do you make money like how does this work just you know you know
And how much do you make a year?
No, I'm kidding.
How do you make your money as an Olympic athlete, you personally?
Right.
Yeah.
So I'm definitely one of the more fortunate ones.
Because typically, I would say if you're not meddling at World's or the Olympics,
you're probably going to have to get another job to live comfortably.
But yeah, so you, I would say first start off making money with prize money.
So depending on where you play,
you get you get a pay out um and then on top of that i'll have it like a i have a swimsuit
sponsorship with tier um and then they will they pay out another base plus um incentive money
off of those finishes so um it is mostly like based off of how you finish it at whatever meet
that's that's going to be the big thing and then other little little sponsor things here
and there um a lot of instagram um and then if you're top
I want to say top eight or top 16 in the world, then USA swimming will also pay you a small
base.
Right.
So, yeah, it's like picking and choosing from a lot of things.
Yeah.
Oh, great.
Well, this has been so fun.
I feel like I'm sort of talking to a celebrity now, you know, because now I'm going to watch.
Well, now I'm going to watch the Olympics and being like, I know her.
Come on.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm excited.
I cannot wait.
I cannot wait.
I'm an Olympic fan just generally.
I love the Olympics.
So I will be watching and rooting.
And when you win, you know, I just need some sort of a signal.
You know, maybe like something like this or maybe like a head scratch.
Yeah, like a head scratch.
Yeah.
So I'll be looking for that.
Okay.
I never, I will say I never know what I'm going to do.
I try to always have some sort of some sort of celebration because you got to
make it interesting for TV, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, do you?
So do you have a little celebrate.
I mean, you do.
I'll do whatever.
I'll smack the water.
I think it trials I gave it a little, come on, give me some.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, I never know what's coming.
Good.
I love it.
I can't wait.
I can't wait.
Thanks so much for hanging.
I appreciate it.
And good luck.
And I will be watching.
Yes, of course.
Thanks for chatting.
I had fun.
Yeah, fun, all right.
See you.
Yeah, it's crazy.
like I was as I was talking
I was talking to where I was like
this is so cool because now
you know I don't I don't know
any of the Olympians really I mean aside from like
Michael Phelps or whatever I
you're just rooting for your country
so now I have some skin in the game
I have some skin in the game
um
fun
go you to say let's get
all right I'm out
I'm out I'm going to go
uh
I'm going to go jump in a river.
I'm going to go jump into the river and become a magical freshwater dolphin.
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