Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Revel In It: Peloton Pro Robin Arzón

Episode Date: October 8, 2025

From inspiration to perspiration, Peloton VP and badass instructor Robin Arzón tells Oliver all about her amazing journey as a fitness trailblazer.  From a terrifying moment in a bar, to p...assing the bar, the former litigator takes us through the challenges and hustle that put her on the Peloton path. Hear why she says running from trauma is actually a good thing and how anyone can join the 'swagger society.' Robin's cookbook "Eat to Hustle" is available for pre-order now.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:13 like snooze. We ended up talking for hours and I was like, this girl is my best friend. Let's talk about safety and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones. Listen to intentionally disturbing on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What's up, everybody. It's next from the trap nerds and all October long. We're bringing you the horror. We're kicking off this month
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Starting point is 00:03:08 We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling rivalry. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Reverevary
Starting point is 00:03:32 That's good Believe it or night I'm walking on air I never thought I could feel I'm so free Flying away on a wing in a prayer Who could it be Believe it or not Yeah I was
Starting point is 00:03:55 Saturday night No, Friday night, I was, you know, having a few cocktails and I was texting with my friend, Hayes. And we were just going back and forth with all of the, you know, old school theme songs for TV shows like Hill Street Blues, Greatest American Hero, you know, like Silver Spoon, all that. And it just got stuck in my head. They were good, man. Those theme songs were good. Very nostalgic. Anyway, Oliver Hudson here reporting live from Rio Hudson's bedroom. If a clip is provided, you'll be able to see. But, you know, she's got all the stuff on her door.
Starting point is 00:04:44 And it's like I'm constantly finding rooms to do this podcast in because my kids are occupying all of my space. And I don't have a proper office either, but I'm not really an office kind of guy. But anyway, I am in the princess's room and, yeah, and it's nice. You know, I'm just surrounded by a 12-year-old femininity. So I think this should add an entirely different element to this interview. Anyway, we have a guest in the waiting room, someone who has been around the Peloton since 2014, I think. Not sure when it actually came out,
Starting point is 00:05:27 but I think she's one of the pioneers. I know she's one of the head trainers there now. The Peloton is something that I have been using for years and years and years. And the evolution of it has been extremely impressive and it doesn't seem to want to go away because it is so much fun and it allows you to challenge yourself
Starting point is 00:05:47 in ways that, you know, you normally can't if you don't have a personal trainer. to push you along. And so we have waiting, in the waiting room, Robin Arzon, who, if any of you are listening, I've enjoyed the Peloton, you know who she is. She's one of the more badass figures. It's fun. They all have, there's different personalities.
Starting point is 00:06:15 There's this, this, and that. But Robin has definitely been a staple in the Peloton world. She has a very interesting story. She has a book coming out. I think it's a cookbook coming out. it's called eat to hustle let's bring her on right now robin come on in lady hello how are you i'm great how are you guys i'm good i'm just hanging out my daughter's room because that's the only space that i have to do this fucking podcast in right now you got to pivot you got to pivot
Starting point is 00:06:45 it's usually in one of my kids rooms you know because school is all different one goes to school at this time. So this one's in that room. I don't have a proper office. So my son this morning, he stayed up too late. He was talking to this girl for three hours. And he's like, dad, only a film this morning. Can I skip it? I'm like, yeah, fuck. All right, fine. But now you've taken away my podcast space. So now I'm in my daughter's room. All right. I mean, that's the classic parent juggling act. No, I know. I know. Where are you? You in NYU? I? Yeah. Yeah, on the west side in Hudson Yards. You are. So where did you grow up, though? Philly. You grew up in Philly. So are you still a Philly girl at heart?
Starting point is 00:07:34 Yes, but my husband's like a massive Jets fan. And my family is like hardcore eagles. So that is my cross to bear. In this life. That is difficult because I'm a massive football fan, so I understand that. And I get the Jets fan very well. It's very sad, but one of my best friends is a Jets fan. And he's just, there's a devastation there. But the Jets look all right, though. But there's also a loyalty that you have to admire. Of course.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I'm like, you know what? Life is long. And we became really good friends with the owners of the Jets. So, like, it was meant to be that, you know. Yeah. Are you an Eagles fan? I'm an, I mean, I grew up cheering for the. Eagles. Yeah. That's my team. Yeah. Um, yeah. Yeah. No, I know. It's, it's, it's fun though. Sports are the best.
Starting point is 00:08:29 God, I love sports. That's so unifying, I think, ultimately. Yeah. I mean, even, even between rivalry, it's unifying, you know, because that passion that you have for a team that you're actually not playing for, but you have some sort of allegiance to. It's as if you are in the game yourself, you know? For sure. It's just so great. So, Growing up then in Philly, you know, I've read a little bit about you of a very interesting story on how you became sort of where you are. I mean, you were, you wanted to be a lawyer. You studied law, right? I practiced law. Yeah, for eight years. You practice law. I mean, you know, and then there's been a big pivot in your life, but even before we get to that, sort of growing up, you know, did you have brothers and sisters, first of all? I have a younger sister. A younger sister. Five years younger. Okay. And you grew up in Philly and how was that upbringing?
Starting point is 00:09:19 well you know my mom's a Cuban refugee my dad is you know a Boricoa from the Bronx born in Puerto Rico so it was very much like an immigrant story where family is everything and it was you know we might have 10 people just show up at the door for dinner one night and just like make it work but because my mom basically put herself through medical school my father put himself through law school so we had means grew up middle class but it was It was also like feeling like you had one foot in one world and one foot in the other because I'd go to school and I'd see wealth, but then I knew we were sending like powdered milk to Cuba to my uncle, you know? So it was like a very interesting, you know, which I think is common for immigrant, at least first generation born in the U.S. That's a pretty common story, I think, feeling like you're bridging a bunch of worlds.
Starting point is 00:10:13 So, yeah, that definitely shaped my work ethic and my idea of a family. watching your parents sort of hustle and do all of that has to leave sort of a great impression upon you to sort of say, oh, this is how, this is how shit gets done. Definitely. And also, for me, it was an interesting observation on penetrating class levels. Like, they were very clearly and intentionally being like, I am the first Cuban Latina doctor in this practice, like, or in my graduating class, or in my graduating class, or in my, My dad was literally a janitor at a CUNY school in the Bronx
Starting point is 00:10:53 and just started showing up to college classes because he kept being denied at the community college because he was so bad at standardized tests. And he just like started showing. That's how he started his school journey, not even being matriculated. He was just like the Latino Goodwill Hunting. So hearing those stories and then being in a place
Starting point is 00:11:12 where it's like my starting line looks a lot different. And I think I had an awareness of that even as a kid. Yeah. My dad was definitely an inspiration. Like he was a law professor when I was growing up. So I was kind of observing him grade papers and whatever. But it wasn't coming from a place of obligation at all. I think I just thought, oh, okay, these are two paths.
Starting point is 00:11:33 I'll pick one. I didn't really think too much about it. And until, you know, I was in my law career. And then I was like, okay, maybe this isn't it. Were you a good student, generally? Straight A student. I was like, I am as like type A. I literally have like a caboodle's pencil case from the 90s with like
Starting point is 00:11:57 highlighters and I am like that chick. Oh my God. And what about you? What about your husband? What about your husband? Oh, God. Drew is not that way. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I was going to guess that. Not that way. You know, opposites attract for sure. I was like, I was rage. organizing the junk drawer in the kitchen yesterday. And he said when I have these laser beams, he just gets out of the way. No, I know.
Starting point is 00:12:25 It is. I get that. Because it's like my wife, too, it's more type A. But things got to get fucking get done. And I am, let's figure. We'll figure it out. I don't know. We'll see what happens. Like, you know, just but it works. He's much more of that energy.
Starting point is 00:12:41 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you were just a great student. I was. Yeah, really hardworking student. and it came naturally to me. Like, I just love school. I love a syllabus. I love a book list. I love a scholastic book fair.
Starting point is 00:12:54 Like, that's my vibe for sure. That's so interesting. I mean, I want to get into a lot of the stuff, but sort of, you know, I'll go, we'll work backwards. But the pivot then, right? From practicing law to all of a sudden saying, you know what, I'm going to put the pencils down, so to speak, and start, you know, leaning into my fitness. How did that all come about?
Starting point is 00:13:16 did you just say, you know what, I'm going to fuck it. Let's go do this. I really didn't know. I mean, I just knew I was obsessed as a kid who was not into sports growing up. I did not have any kind of physical movement practice at all, casual or otherwise. Not even, I was like intimidated to even like play pickup ball or soccer like with my cousins, you know? So it was like super, it was something I really had to unpack for myself as an adult. But once I did, did. Once I found, like, oh, I can lift weights. I can run. I can do all these things with my body. Like, how cool. I, once that spark was lit, I was like, I got to figure out how I can pay my rent and, like, still do this most of the day. But I had no clue what that was going to look like. And initially, when I left my law practice job, I thought it was going to be kind of in the marketing realm, or I was going to be doing, like, social media and representing, like, having, like, these athletic brands as,
Starting point is 00:14:16 either work for that, like go work at Nike or something. And I ended up working on the agency side where Nike, the social media account for Nike women was my client. So I was basically like behind the scenes, putting out the tweets and whatever for the brands. And it was closer to what I wanted to do, but it wasn't really what I wanted to do in terms of storytelling. I felt like I had a story to tell in this space
Starting point is 00:14:40 and people who felt traditionally under or unrepresented by, sports media and the conversation, especially around Latinas and women in sports, and for the everyday athlete that is like, oh, cool, I'm still doing the thing. I'm not going to go to the Olympics, but where is my realm? And I think that we built that together, both on social media and then later with companies like Peloton. That's, that's, okay. So going back just a little bit. When you started to run, when you started to understand what physical activity, with athletics meant, with pushing your body, you know, beyond where you thought it could go, what that gave you, you know, even from an energetic sort of philosophical standpoint, of course we know that it's good
Starting point is 00:15:31 for your body, it's good for your heart, it's good for just life force. But in order for that to sort of pivot you in such a way, it must have sort of really, deeply affected you to where you're like, oh, shit, I need and want to do this every day and have to make my life about this. So what is it? What was it initially where it was like, I need this? Well, initially it was... Because I love to work out.
Starting point is 00:15:57 I mean, I'm trying. I'm fucking almost 50. And it's like, I have a peloton. I've had one since, I think, 2014 or 15. Amazing. You know, I run. I try to live. Yes, I like it when I see results.
Starting point is 00:16:10 but I fucking hate it all at the same time. You know what I mean? Yes, I mean, that is a common story. I think I initially did it out of need and then later did it out of want. And the need actually came from a trauma that I experienced before law school, the stress of law school.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And I had no idea. That was one thing. As much as my parents set me up for success and modeled work ethic and made me deeply aware of like my ancestors and my history and, like, from a point of pride and necessity, they left on the tape, like, they weren't athletes. And I, like, I remember being in my 20s being like,
Starting point is 00:16:51 how did y'all not tell me that we could move our bodies and not feel, like, crap all the time? And, like, lethargy at 3 p.m. is not normal just because it's common, right? And I had no idea. I had to really discover that for myself. And when you add layers of trauma and stress and just, like, life. I didn't have a toolkit. I knew how to red line. I knew how to work till the wheels fell off, but I really didn't have a toolkit. So I dedicated my 20s and early 30s to developing
Starting point is 00:17:22 my own toolkit. So I could advocate for myself and listen to that voice in between my ears and know what to pick out of my toolkit. And obviously a central piece of that is movement for me. But it started out of meat. Like I think I was like, it was like an out of body experience. you know, because I was like, I can't sustain this output without something to balance it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All I know is what I've been told, and that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story.
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Starting point is 00:24:06 thought and felt okay this is it this is the outlet that i need yes therapy is good yes talk is good but physical activity for me is is my true therapy you know it really ended up being so i'll start at the at the beginning of the of the story so i was living in new york city i was enjoying my senior year at NYU and i was meeting my girlfriends at a law firm job at the time like as a paralegal I was meeting my girlfriends in the East Village at this wine bar called Bar Voloche. It's still there. Now they have locations everywhere in New York. But tiny little wine bar, like 10 little stools, very charming.
Starting point is 00:24:45 And I heard, we heard gunshots. A man walks in. And he says, I've been shot. But we didn't see like blood or anything. And then like maybe a minute later, the guy with the gun walks in behind him and then proceeds, I mean, it was just a melee. He grabs me. closest to the door, so there was no, like, running away.
Starting point is 00:25:06 I was immediately in this guy's grips. And it was really the thing where, like, time slows down. You feel like you're in a horror movie. But also, you're super focused, obviously, like adrenaline is pumping. And then I became his main hostage. There were probably 20 people there, and we were there for a few hours. But I was his, literally, I was so close to him, like, he was breathing on me you know we were having like it was it was intimate even though it was horrifying and so it was
Starting point is 00:25:38 like trying to unpack and humanize like why are you doing this what do you need let's get to your goal whatever it may be were you having this conversation with yeah yeah yeah and he was um afro latino and so he started speaking to me in Spanish and then I started speaking to him in Spanish and I was like I just wanted him to I just had this impulse and later when I've spoken about this to professional hostage negotiators, I realized on instinct, I ended up doing the right thing, which is to kind of humanize
Starting point is 00:26:09 and make vulnerable the people. You know, you name the people, like, that's Sally, that's Jim, you're who, I'm this person, right? So it's like to bring them back into like a groundedness. And obviously he was
Starting point is 00:26:24 not well and really angry. I mean, it was him. He shot, like while holding me, he shot out at the poor person who like ran the laundromat next door like this this asian guy you know so you it was scary a shit yeah but the so that experience um thankfully nobody died yeah we ended up getting um the NYPD end up um ending the takeover when somebody there was like a struggle with the gun they rush in arrest him and you'd think like oh okay cool like I'm alive we're good and I did the therapy and I did all the I literally
Starting point is 00:27:01 really checked the box. I was like, I do not want to be a shell of, I don't want to be 50 and like can't get lead the house. Yeah. So I was like just, and I was very good with the list, very good with like, you know, Virgo Robin took over. And yes, it was like, quote, healing, but I was living with that in my body. And now you can read, you know, the body keeps to score a lot, tons, there's tons of research around like the lived embodiment of trauma. But I wasn't aware of that. And at least nobody told me about that then. And I felt such a physical, it was like stomach stuff, digestion stuff. I couldn't fall asleep or I couldn't wake up.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Like I was having such, I was so exhausted during the day during law school because I was up all night with these nightmares. And I was like, I just got to like physically run. I just had to like choose a different heart. Like it was already hard living in my body. So I was like, there's got to be another hard physically. And then that's when I just started running. I literally ran to classes one day, which was like a mile, and it was horrible, and I hated it. But I was like, well, if I'm focused on this, I'm less focused on that.
Starting point is 00:28:09 And then, obviously, the more you train, the better you get at it, and you build an endurance base and all that. But initially, it was like just horrific. But I was already kind of living a nightmare. So it was better than that. Yeah. Wow. Going back to that, you know, you hear, obviously, you know, there's a lot of stories of trauma and situations. situations that are gnarly like that, but what's it like that night?
Starting point is 00:28:34 You know what I mean? Like, okay, it happens. We're done. It's like, all right, you're free to go. What do you do in the hours preceding something like that? You know, it's like, do you have a drink? Are you just like, all right, like, I have an appointment at six that I got to still fucking go to? Like, how do you?
Starting point is 00:28:51 Exactly. Like, I remember the next day, my mom coming up from Philadelphia, she, you know, she's a doctor. I had to call her. And there was another thing that I don't always have time to talk about when I tell this story, but he had HIV. And his wife had just died from HIV. So with HIPAA and stuff, they could only disclose so much. But they were like, so I'm basically at the hospital.
Starting point is 00:29:12 They're checking me for blah, blah, blah. And they're like, you have about like an hour to decide whether you want to take this AZT cocktail to like minimize your exposure. And I was like, oh. So I called my mom like, five in the morning. Like, hi, I'm fine. I have about 55 minutes now to make this disqualification. life altering decision apparently.
Starting point is 00:29:29 So it was like intensity upon intensity. And so the few weeks after I still had this like lingering question mark of like my own health and thankfully everything ended up being okay. But it was kind of like less focused on that and refocusing now on like the medical stuff. So I would say like things settled, settled maybe a month later. And it was just this cavernous feeling. Like you're sitting in your house and you're like how what's normal? Am I just going to put on friends?
Starting point is 00:29:59 Like, you know what I mean? Like, am I just really going to open a book and go to class? You just go through the motions until the motions feel more normal again. And thankfully, because it was my senior year, there's a lot of excitement. You know, I'm going, I'm going to law school. And you refocus, but there is this, I mean, I just accelerated into adulthood in such a fast way during that time that I think later, retrospect, I was able to like mourn that version of myself that just couldn't have that
Starting point is 00:30:31 levity anymore because it was like, I just know what's really fucking out there now. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. And how long did it take or is it still, is it still a part of you? Or how long does it take before you can actually become clear and understand that that was a part of your life? You know, I can, I can not detach from it, but I've worked through it enough to where it's not affecting me. I think it took like a good 10 years. And I have. And I had, to really start storytelling. This is when I started journaling a lot. And I started journaling sometimes like in the third person, like that story.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Like I literally would like write it out like as if Robin was another, it was like a character in a story. And I had to like, and I was, it was during a time where after the incident where I was like, I was anxious to even go on the subway and I had to write little scenarios like, Robin leaves her home. She's safe going on the subway. She gets on the sea train at West 4th Street. And this wasn't a prompt from like a therapist. I was just like, I need to get out of the house and I've got to tell myself a different story because I'm scared that like somebody's going to like jump me from behind. Yeah. And I wanted to stay living in New York, you know? And that
Starting point is 00:31:46 was critical, obviously, to like being in the city. So the storytelling piece of it, the movement piece of it. What about meditation? Were you practiced mindfulness? Yeah. Yeah. So meditation and breathwork came in. Another tool in the toolkit came in about four years into my, when I was practicing
Starting point is 00:32:04 law. And that was clutch. So I think obviously it's, they all go hands in hand. They're all like, you know, essential pieces of the puzzle. But yeah, it was a good 10 years before I felt like, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:19 Yeah. Yeah. But it's funny because all of these things that you talk about, you know, breathwork, meditation. therapy, you know, physicality, I think they're just such a necessity, you know, for everyone, no matter what your situation is. I mean, I've, you know, I've been an anxious person. I've had anxiety since my 20s, probably much, much younger. And, you know, journaling was huge for me to get through it. Meditation was big for me. Of course, therapy. And I didn't find sort of
Starting point is 00:32:48 um the physical thing the physical just the until a little bit later on but it's just so true it was it's now so crucial for me you know and as far as that body holding trauma holy shit is that true i mean i was going through some shit in my 20s and then my 30s 40s whatever but specifically in my 20s when it hit me so fucking hard that i didn't understand i didn't know what to do with it i thought i was dying half the time throwing up on the street fucking couldn't breathe trying to live my life i mean it was so gnarly and my mom had me do this deep tissue crazy deep tissue massage with this like healer masseuse woman and my mom's all about that and i'm in but i'm always a little skeptical and she starts pushing down on my solar plexes like so hard and i'm like fuck i mean i'm in like pain
Starting point is 00:33:38 pain and then she moves up sort of close to my rib cage I'm like ah and then finally she moves in and I lose it like crying like a baby like sobbing sobbing sobbing and I'm apologizing I'm sorry I don't know where it was coming from and it was really an amazing experience you know because we hold that shit in our bodies physically you know what I believe it and I I I'll all like I take it even further. Like, I'm into, like, all kinds of metaphysical stuff, all kinds of spiritual stuff. I did a past life regression, just essentially, like, therapy plus they medit. You go into, like, a meditation.
Starting point is 00:34:21 Yeah. And then you basically talk through what you're seeing. And it was, like, this whole thing. And I was, like, this spy in World War I. I ended up getting shot in my sternum. And the physical manifestations of my body now were, like, related to the story. that I was telling to this therapist in the moment
Starting point is 00:34:42 and like in this vision I was shot like in my sternum and then she had me do this visualization where it was like healing and a healing circle and whatever and like whether you think it's mumbo jumbo or not like I haven't had those physical sensations since I did that and then she took me through
Starting point is 00:35:00 another one where I was like an indigenous person and I was living in this hut and whatever and I was at a spirit there was an arrow went into my left heel. And let me tell you, for 20 years, I have had pain in my planar fascia in my left foot. After birth, it got worse.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I've done every PT, everything. When I tell you, ever since this experience, I have not had a single, they're not a sensation, not a pain, nothing. My physical therapist was like, what do you mean? Your left foot doesn't hurt anymore. Like, I've been treating you for 15 years.
Starting point is 00:35:35 Yeah. So I don't know whether that was like psychosomatic. but like listen baby i didn't care i was like i don't know i feel better a hundred percent but i do think that you have to have some sort of belief in order for that shit to actually work you know i mean my mother is is all about it you know and i i've i've had moments where she's like you need to see this this channeler and it's incredible you know we just had this guy John Edward on our show who, you know, is an incredible clairvoyant who can love it.
Starting point is 00:36:11 See beyond. I mean, see the people in your life who have passed away who are, it's just, there are things that this dude says that there is no world where he could and know any of it unless he's actually experiencing it. You know what I'm saying? That shit is real. There's no world where we can't tap into certain energies and everyone that I've talked to because we have a big psychic family just generally,
Starting point is 00:36:37 my mom and my sister. It's everyone has the ability. That's what everyone says to us. It's like you have the ability to go there. You know, it's not just for the gifted. Yes, there are the gifted,
Starting point is 00:36:51 but there are people. We all have that ability. We all have that psychic ability, you know. I believe that. And I definitely, my husband is really, like, kind of tuned in.
Starting point is 00:36:59 We're noticing like my daughter is really tuned in. And those are like, you know, Those are gifts that I would love. You know, I'm into the physical. I'm into the breathwork. But like there's like kind of that metaphysical piece that I'm so curious about. I would love to develop those things.
Starting point is 00:37:14 Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. Okay. So you get through all this. You go to law school. You practice eight years of law. What kind of law were you practicing? Corporate litigation.
Starting point is 00:37:24 So I was at a law firm called Paul Hastings. Yeah. And we had just a bunch of corporations as our clients and like high net worth folks. Yeah. And was it fulfilling? for you at the time? It was because I made it about the hustle. I was like, I'm this, you know, I got my cute little suit.
Starting point is 00:37:42 I'm, you know, living this like New York City girly life. Yeah. But it was, you know, eight years in and really hard work. You know, you're talking like 80 billable hours a week. Yeah. So it scratched that like work ethic, which I think I will have until the day I die. But the topics were pretty mundane. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:01 And so then how did this all transition? And I know we sort of touched upon it, but, you know, was it a scary moment to say, you know what, I'm going to stop this and I'm going to go into this when you start into the marketing world anyway? yeah well it was a slow burn i think for two years i was like all right what's my escape hatch like what's my route and when i realized there was no route i was like all right so i just got to like quit and force myself to do something else um so i initially had taken a leave of absence from my law firm where they don't i still have a job but they don't pay me for that period of time and that's when i started making contacts like in the agency world and with athletic brands and their and their cmos and da da and then the london olympic game
Starting point is 00:38:42 games were coming around and I thought, okay, this is like my moment. How am I going to meet these athletes? How am I going to storytell around sport in my way if I'm not physically there to have that experience? So that was when I quit. And I was sleeping on my friend's couch in London for three weeks and I left the London games with a job with a sports marketing agency doing that Nike women's gig. And how are your parents?
Starting point is 00:39:10 How did they take this? they I made a vow to them but I was never going to ask them for a cent and I made good on that and they you know I mentioned you know the immigrant story normally there's a lot more there's a lot of pressure like you got you know this path this time and they were incredibly supportive because I was so I mean I was so passionate about it I was like lit on fire and having gone through this this traumatic stuff in my early 20s they just wanted me to to feel like I was impassioned and feeling coming from like a really safe place. And I felt like, oh, okay, like this, this story that I'm writing for myself feels not only
Starting point is 00:39:53 empowering, but it feels safe. And that was freedom that was worth any, at any amount of money. Yeah. So they were supportive. My OG Wolfpack was down. Good. That's what you need. You know, you need pushback, but you need support, you know. And I am. my own worst critic. So I didn't, my mom and my dad knew they didn't need me any finger wagging. You know, it was like, I'm going to look at myself in the mirror and probably be harsher than anybody else. Yeah, yeah. All I know is what I've been told.
Starting point is 00:40:33 And that's a half truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town is a small town. In Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer,
Starting point is 00:41:14 and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame. America, y'all better work the hell up.
Starting point is 00:41:45 Bad things happen to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Do you want to hear the secrets of serial killers, psychopaths, pedophiles, robbers? They are sitting there waiting for the vulnerable thing. They're waiting for the unprotected. I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist.
Starting point is 00:42:26 I advocate for safety and awareness of predators while wearing pink. When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like snooze. We ended up talking for hours. and I was like, this girl is my best friend. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with sarcasm, satire, and hard truths. I'm not going to fake it and force it for me. But would you force an orgasm? Because that's like a different layer.
Starting point is 00:42:49 The car accident you didn't want to see but couldn't turn away from. In this episode, I discussed personal safety and self-defense tools, instincts and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life and high-risk situations. Listen to Intentionally Disturbing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. But what they find is not what they expected. Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.
Starting point is 00:43:39 They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them, the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand, and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Pointer, chair of Women's Health and Gynecology at the Atria Health Institute in New York City. On this show, I'll be talking to top researchers and top clinicians, asking them your burning questions and bringing that information about women's health and midlife directly to you. 100% of women go through menopause.
Starting point is 00:44:36 It can be such a struggle for our quality of life, but even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it? The types of symptoms that people talk about is forgetting everything, I never used to forget things. They're concerned that, one, they have dementia, and the other one is, do I have ADHD? There is unprecedented promise with regard to cannabis and cannabinoids, to sleep better, to have less pain, to have better mood,
Starting point is 00:45:01 and also to have better day-to-day life. Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Pointer on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening now. But the humility in knowing that life is this classroom that we should never graduate for is what is going to keep you growing. And that's all that matters. World Mental Health Day is around the corner. And on my podcast, Just Healed with Dr. Jay, I dive into what,
Starting point is 00:45:31 it really means to care for your mind, body, and spirit, from breaking generational patterns to building emotional capacity. Healing is a journey and wholeness is the destination. I'm going to walk away feeling very healed and feeling like, yes, I'm going to continue my healing journey and I'm going to get some keys from you. Listen to Jess Hilbert, Dr. Jay, from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, so how did Peloton come in to your life? Peloton came in, it was before the studio had opened in 2013.
Starting point is 00:46:20 I read about the company in like a magazine, and I sent a cold email to the company. It was info at Peloton Cycle.com. Like the alias doesn't even exist anymore. And I just was like, I got to work with y'all. Like I just came off this gig, you know, doing social media for this brand. And, you know, I want to do global storytelling. And I do vision boards a lot. And I did a vision board where in the business quadrant, it was like some type of intersection between storytelling and technology.
Starting point is 00:46:50 I had no idea what that meant. I had a picture of like a little Apple computer. I really truly didn't. I was like, what is that thread that I need to pull on? And it wasn't until I read this article. that I was like, oh, that's for thread. So I auditioned. I was the second, no, I was the third instructor hired at Peloton.
Starting point is 00:47:07 Wow. And then there was like full steam ahead. Let's open up a studio. Let's start filming classes to like the 20 bikes that are off the, you know, bars from Taiwan or whatever. And that was it. That was 12 years ago. Wow.
Starting point is 00:47:23 So you were one of three, the first three hired. And initially, how was it set up? you know, it was it, how did it work? Like duct tape and a dream. It was wild. Yeah. So our office, we literally were like the CEO, the founders were. There were probably 25 people total at the head, the head count of the company at the time, including those new instructors.
Starting point is 00:47:46 And we just, they just like put up a black curtain in the corner of a Chelsea office space. And when we were recording classes, like the people on the floor couldn't. do conference like phone calls like it was like 1 p.m. we're filming classes no CEO you're gonna have to get investor month go to Starbucks yeah um and it was like quiet on set and the um the chief technology officer was the one who was cutting our classes like we didn't have there was no PA there was no grip there was nothing it was literally like a camera a bike that wasn't even a palatown bike it just had peloton branding because we didn't even have bikes yet when we started filming content and we I would beg my friends to come and and be like extras in the class.
Starting point is 00:48:35 Holy shit, wait a minute. So then how was it streamed or in the beginning? In the beginning we, you know, we had the infrastructure to stream. So I had a little rudimentary leaderboard so I could see there were like seven people online. Yeah, I was going to say like how many people were subscribers at that point. I mean, I think we had like 200, we had sold like a few hundred bikes. Yeah. With the initially it was with, um, that initial, it was, um, like the first fundraising round was one of those online Kickstarter.
Starting point is 00:49:08 And so there were like some bikes sold with the Kickstarter. So we kind of had a built in base, but it was minimal. And, you know, finally we started getting the hardware on site. And then, you know, we had a few months to ramp up content before our, 23rd Street studio opened. Right. And so initially, because here's, again, I told you, I've had a Peloton forever.
Starting point is 00:49:31 And it's just so unique and that you can curate, especially now, there's so much curation. But even in the, even in the infancy of it, you know, at least when I got my Pelot, which I don't exactly remember when it was. And it was like, oh shit, like you can listen to these playlists and go through the playlist and sort of see what you want to listen to, you know.
Starting point is 00:49:51 And that was so, unique to me and the attitude of all of the instructors sort of how you wanted to work out. You know, if you wanted someone to beat your ass, okay, if you wanted something like nice and easy, okay. So was there anyone in sort of like head of marketing or who is explaining like this is how, this is our vision? Or was, were the trainers themselves sort of saying, hey, you know what? This is what we want to do. I think it was a little bit of both. I say it was like, the rocket ship left the station. We were like, oh, shoot, we got to put a window here.
Starting point is 00:50:28 We got to fix this thing here. And you were just, it was just scrappy. And it still is in many, many ways. Just a scrappy mentality of like, we will build it. Like, we will build it. And there is an innate sense of self, I think, that is required of a Peloton instructor. Like, you have to have a point of view. It's not like you audition for something.
Starting point is 00:50:51 And they're like, this is your role. you're the girl next door. You're the hard-ass, XYZ. So you have to have, you have to come with that. And then we can hone it under the Peloton umbrella, but it's not a role.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Because after a thousand classes, you can see that. So it's got to be like, obviously there's musicality and there's a physical element and you have to be a subject matter expert on, you know, as a trainer, as a wellness expert.
Starting point is 00:51:18 But there's like the X factor that you cannot teach and that's just like a likeability period so do you create your own playlists all the time is that all you yeah all me and how often are you how often are you changing your music i mean all the time every i mean every class has a different playlist but i would say monthly i'm kind of we're like bucketing okay like these are rising latin songs these are new hip-hop things that dropped and we have a music team of course who will say like okay we're sourcing licensing for this or we think this artist series might be coming down the pike because there's obviously legal things that come into play. I was not to ask that. Is there a license? Is there a license? Oh yeah. You have to license
Starting point is 00:52:00 use songs. We have to get licensing for literally every single thing we play. And then we have we have great relationships with the artists. So they'll say like, oh, we've got this tour coming up or I've got this album that's dropping. And we have, you know, amazing relationships with the top artists in the world. And they'll do, you know, they'll work with us for really cool, really cool concepts. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I can get it. expensive. I mean, Jesus. You start to license all those songs. Yeah. And so we want to be, we want to be super serving what our members want to listen to while also introducing them to cool new stuff. Right. So it's fine. It's a balance. So you were sort of a pioneer in this world.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Like you've been there forever. How do you work, do you work yourself up the chain, so to speak? I have a hybrid role where I'm an executive and an instructor. So I'm a vice president of fitness programming and head instructor so in that sense um in my BP role it's like working with marketing and product and working with my boss who's our chief content officer who essentially runs the network like if we were a television network she would run the network um then we've got executive producers and and you know there's a lot of the hundreds of folks that make make these classes happen not just the instructors that you see on camera and so in that vein I am more than an instructor and I have more responsibilities, more meetings, XYZ.
Starting point is 00:53:22 And then when I'm in front of the camera, the same standard applies to me that applies to the other 50-something folks. And how often are you in front of the camera these days? Four days a week, usually. You are? Yeah. I'm live four days a week. Is that how it's always been? Or have you cut back?
Starting point is 00:53:41 It's more, I would say we're more nimble and efficient now. I think we cut down from like five days a week to four days a week, but in those four days, I'm filming as much if not more content. And then we also have other, we have like social media things. We have press things. So they'll fold that into our schedule where it might be, I might be on set for four hours, but only one of those hours is a class.
Starting point is 00:54:06 And how many locations are there now where you actually film in? New York and London. Okay. And do you still have live? You still have people come in to ride as well? Oh my gosh. I mean, ride, run. lift, grow, like the energy, when I tell you, it is like SNL meets, visiting the Empire
Starting point is 00:54:25 State building meets, like, it is a New York moment. Like, if you are a Peloton member, the people who just walk by and you can see the live class, you know, we'll play the live classes, like on the screens and the plaza and whatever. And it is such an exciting moment for people. And then they get to meet their favorite instructors afterwards for like a photo line. And we try to make the experience really special for people in our studio. team is absolutely incredible. Our member experience team, like really, really cares, you know, for people celebrating anniversaries and birthdays and all that, yeah. That's part of the craziest
Starting point is 00:54:58 shit about this. And I've talked to about my friends because, like, all my friends have palatons. And we used to, we used to be nutty on them, you know, like, but you guys are famous. You've got a personality, you know, you're doing what you love. And the, the byproduct of it is, oh, now I walk down the street and I'm recognized, you know. How is it? How is it? You know, how is it? that what is that like do you dig it um i mean it's such a privilege that anybody gives a crap um the the interesting thing that i think makes it super distinct from like hollywood right it's like you see somebody that you love from a movie or a tv show like you know that they're not the movie role are you sure sure um whereas this is like you know if aty or alley or
Starting point is 00:55:48 Cody or, you know, Matt Wilper said something in a class that I took of his like, oh, I fed my dog. I'm like, hey, I heard about your dog. Like, you know, it's like a very specific, intimate parisocial relationship, which is a very odd thing to negotiate, right? Because like that is really us, but also it's like a j, it's like adjacent to who I am, right? And so like when I'm standing there with my kids or my husband, 99% of the time, it is like totally cool and really flattering.
Starting point is 00:56:19 And then sometimes you're like, I literally just got to catch a flight. Like, I'm not trying to be rude, but like I can't. And there's such an outpouring of emotion often because they are intimate experiences. So we will very, very, very, it's very, very common for a pelotonous structure to hear, like, deep, deep stuff. Right. No, for sure. Because they're personal relationships that we have with people. Of course, not only that, but even going back to sort of how you got through your trauma,
Starting point is 00:56:46 that's not, you know, you were not an. island there so many people are using what you do using your words your inspiration that go to robin because she gets my shit going and robin has changed my life i mean that's i mean obviously they've done it themselves but you yeah yeah they put it in the work right but you've been the inspiration and the impetus for us a lot of these people to change their entire lives so there is an emotional component to meeting you i'm sure it is like honestly the best job on the planet and i think that you know people ask like oh and during the pandemic or during this and during that like How do you keep going?
Starting point is 00:57:18 And it's like, how could I not? Like, what job do I get to, like, go to the grocery store or, like, walk on 6th Avenue and get stopped by somebody being like, holy crap. Like, you got me through my divorce or, like, celebrated graduating college by taking your run, you know? Like, that's a wild cascade of impact that I don't think many, certainly not many wellness jobs have. No, I know. You know, I could walk down the street and say, oh, I loved you in this movie. this TV show, you're like, oh, cool, thanks.
Starting point is 00:57:49 But no one's saying, you've changed my fucking life, man. Like, you brought me through, like, cancer. I'm like, I did. Like, that's never going to happen. All I know is what I've been told. And that's a half-truth is a whole lie. For almost a decade, the murder of an 18-year-old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved, until a local homemaker, a journalist, and a handful of
Starting point is 00:58:24 girls came forward with a story. I'm telling you, we know Quincy Kilder, we know. A story that law enforcement used to convict six people, and that got the citizen investigator on national TV. Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran. My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, producer,
Starting point is 00:58:51 and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find. I did not know her and I did not kill her, or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y'all said. They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her. From Lava for Good, this is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.
Starting point is 00:59:20 America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County in the Bone Valley feed on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad-free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts. Do you want to hear the secrets of serial killers, psychopaths, pedophiles, robbers?
Starting point is 00:59:55 They are sitting there waiting for the vulnerable thing. They're waiting for the unprotected. I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. I advocate for safety and awareness of predators while wearing pink. When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like snooze. We ended up talking for hours, and I was like, this girl is my best friend. This is a podcast where I cut through the... noise with sarcasm, satire, and hard truths.
Starting point is 01:00:20 I'm not going to fake it and force it for me. But would you force an orgasm? Because that's like a different layer. The car accident you didn't want to see but couldn't turn away from. In this episode, I discussed personal safety and self-defense, tools, instincts and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones in everyday life and high-risk situations. Listen to intentionally disturbing on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcast. podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 01:00:52 In early 1988, federal agents race to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it. But what they find is not what they expected. Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin. They go, is this your daughter? I said yes. They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years. Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them,
Starting point is 01:01:30 the women must decide who they're willing to protect and who they dare to betray. Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. Welcome to Decoding Women's Health. I'm Dr. Elizabeth Pointer, chair of Women's Health and Gynecology at the Adria Health Institute in New York City. On this show, I'll be talking to top researchers and top clinicians,
Starting point is 01:02:03 asking them your burning questions and bringing that information about women's health and midlife directly to you. A hundred percent of women go through menopause. It can be such a struggle for our goal. quality of life. But even if it's natural, why should we suffer through it? The types of symptoms that people talk about is forgetting everything. I never used to forget things. They're concerned that, one, they have dementia. And the other one is, do I have ADHD? There is unprecedented promise with regard to cannabis and cannabinoids, to sleep better, to have less pain, to have better
Starting point is 01:02:37 mood, and also to have better day-to-day life. Listen to Decoding Women's Health with Dr. Elizabeth Pointer on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast. or wherever you're listening now. Hey guys, it's Stephanie Beatriz. I'm Melissa Fumero, and this is more better. We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you. Your thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals.
Starting point is 01:03:00 And we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice and hot takes. God, that sucks so hard, though. I'm so sorry. Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for funsies? Yeah. We had so much fun last season, laughing, crying. talking to some new and old friends.
Starting point is 01:03:17 Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing. Oh, yeah. And I was like, can I also hug them? I'm like, this f*** has no friends. And this time around, we are, say it, Melissa. Should I?
Starting point is 01:03:34 Say it. Getting a little more better. Oh, finally. It's all the dressing room talk you loved in season one. All the things. Because aren't we all trying to get a little more better? Listen to more better on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
Starting point is 01:03:49 podcasts. It would be fun to go to the headquarters and see that shit go down. You're invited. Please come. I would love to. I'm actually going to be in New York. I got to do press for a little while in for about a week in New York in November. Maybe I'll stop by. All right, cool. We have members in on the weekends. Let me talk to you really quickly before we get out of here about your your book eat to hustle yes what inspired this so eat to hustle because i assume everything like like i can only see your shoulders but you're fucking it's i'm i'm jealous you know what i'm saying well this is this is for plants it's from plants and lifting weights and doing all the things yes this is what i want to talk about is food and how how much of this is food and how much of this
Starting point is 01:04:38 is actual working out you know well you need listen like you need a like you need a layer of muscle underneath all of it to kind of bulletproof you for old age, longevity. I believe that strength training is the fountain of youth. That is like the, that's the base of my pyramid. If we're looking at a fitness pyramid, somebody might think it's actually cardio vet, like running and cycling, whatever, actually it's strength. That's three days a week, non-negotiable. And then I'm layering on, you know, zone two, zone three, all different types of modalities.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I mix up my modalities quite a bit from a cardiovascular perspective but from a fuel perspective I've been plant base for over 12 years and I wrote Eat to Hustle which is available for pre-order now I wrote Eat to Hustle because I kept getting asked number one how do you get your protein
Starting point is 01:05:30 and number two how do you Robin fuel yourself and your family so this is somewhat I'm someone who I consider myself a remix artist in the kitchen and I wanted to simplify plant base eating for people when they say like I literally don't even how do I eat plant base and still get protein so 75 protein packed recipes that have the macros you'll know exactly
Starting point is 01:05:55 what you're putting into your body and the I actually attached a dumbbell score to each recipe so if there's one dumbbell you know it's easy all the way up to three or four dumbbells for the stuff that's a little bit more complicated but it is you know I include like what I do for my meal prep what what I feel weekly like what's on my grocery list like these are this is truly like how I fuel in my kitchen for over 10 years as somebody who trains multiple hours a day do you create you have your meal plans but do you do you cook for ahead of time like would you put something in the fridge to sort of so like that quick sort of grab and go stuff that you need I do I meal prep over the weekend my proteins and like roasted veggies and stuff and then I'll also do like protein
Starting point is 01:06:40 breads and things like that like I'll batch make that maybe like once a month or once every few weeks but for things like this like I literally had 12 minutes to fuel before I got on screen with you and I don't time to make a meal my kids are going crazy you know so it's like air frying tofu making satan having veggies in the fridge like just making making it harder to make the wrong choice and I think that that's where people and and my meal prep by the way isn't hours and measuring and weighing and whatever. It's literally just having batches of things that I know are going to move the needle for me in the direction that I want. Yeah, because it can get so overwhelming.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Yes. Food has always been a tough one for me because I love to eat, you know, and I can get into it, but it just gets hard. I'll open up the fridge and like, what the fuck am I going to eat? There's nothing. What am I going to eat? What am I going to eat? And I'm starving. I'm like, I'll just have some chips and then leave, you know.
Starting point is 01:07:37 because it's always difficult to like find something that is specific to what you're trying to do. Yeah. So that meal prep is probably huge. Well, once you have some things in your rotation, and this is why I wrote Eat the Hustle, because I was like, it's not a book for people who are exclusively when to eat plant-based. It will get you there. But what I say is I want to expand people's protein portfolio. So you just put other things in your mix that give you energy, don't sap it, that aid your recovery,
Starting point is 01:08:06 that are better for inflammation, better for longevity, and really great for your gut health, too, because all these recipes are packed with fiber, and most people are actually more likely to be fiber deficient than protein deficient. Yeah, this is great. This is good. Now, do you have cheat days? I mean, do you eat like a slice? I don't consider it a cheat, but yeah, sure.
Starting point is 01:08:32 Like, I, you know, my birthday was a few weeks ago. Like, I ate, literally ate birthday cake for breakfast. Yeah. And you have to have moments. And I also don't, I want a model for my kids that they don't have to, there's no perfection. There's no, like, hiding. I don't want them to be like 20 downing donuts and eating crazy stuff in college because they didn't let them have birthday cake at a party, you know?
Starting point is 01:08:55 Yes. I see that. I see that. Well, I see parents who are so gnarly strict that the minute that the kids sort of get out of that world they are just grinding on the bad shit i'm super mindful of like modeling not only like healthy eating habits except that i'm you know they're healthy for me but also like movement habits right like i want my kids to see some balance yeah and do you drink at all i don't drink i haven't drank in years not and my husband doesn't drink either so we're we're a sober family
Starting point is 01:09:31 clean clean clean well i'm not going to tell you whether i drink or not so that's your that's your business i'm not gonna tell you you'll never fucking know kombucha's on me when you comes in new york city to a ride or much as great great i'm in i'm in i'll bring a little airplane bottle or something um well this has been so much fun i'm gonna take uh i've never even taken a live class ever on the peloton ever it's always been just the just the recorded classes okay well now we're going to level it up yeah i'm going to find you i got to get into one of your classes for sure i would love it i would love it but this has been so great um i'm excited to get i'm excited the code when does it come out i know it's for pre-order but when does it actually come out in
Starting point is 01:10:21 march of next year so a few months okay let's pre-order that let's do that all right well this has been so fun robin i appreciate you appreciate you having me thank you all right we'll see you soon bye man what kind of work ethic it's just just jealous she's just energy clear muscles skin looks good bang bang bang bang and here i am in my daughter's room with a tie-dye shirt on a shitty beard bags under my eyes my eyebrow hairs are just growing you know a mile a minute I'm a mess, but I'm fun, and I'm funny. I'm a mess, but I'm funny. My gray chest hair, you know, just a belly hanging over in my waistband.
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