Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Revel In It: Shine Bright Like Dr. Diamond

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

World famous plastic surgeon Dr. Diamond joins Oliver to talk about the life-changing surgeries he's known for. Find out why he knew from a young age this was his calling, and the terrible truth some ...patients have to FACE when it comes to plastic surgery. Plus, find out how Dr. Diamond's dedication in the OR sent him to the ER!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an IHeart podcast. September is a great time to travel, especially because it's my birthday in September, especially internationally. Because in the past, we've stayed in some pretty awesome Airbnbs in Europe. Did we've one in France, we've one in Greece,
Starting point is 00:00:15 we've actually won in Italy a couple of years ago. Anyway, it just made our trip feel extra special. So if you're heading out this month, consider hosting your home on Airbnb with the co-host feature you can hire someone local to help manage everything. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
Starting point is 00:00:40 Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos.
Starting point is 00:01:05 Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us, father and daughter, for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup.
Starting point is 00:01:44 While KindBody did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like in the right hand? You're just not. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson.
Starting point is 00:02:46 We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling reverie. No, no. Sibling reverie. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling reverie. That's good.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Check one, check two. What's you gonna do? It's me, double O I. L-I-E on my own crew. Yeah, you know what? There's a show on Netflix called Hustle and Flow. Rhyme and Flow. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:03:33 It's season two. It's like American Idol, but for hip-hop, for rappers. I'm locked in. I'm locked in. Because believe it or not, I still freestyled. Like, I was huge into the hip-hop world. My friend Alex, we used to just. get blazed in his car and put on breakbeats and freestyle.
Starting point is 00:03:58 That's what we did. And that's carried on. I love the show. It's still love hip-hop. Anyway, this is the intro, and I'm introing. So, I just got a new Trigger Grill, smoker. So I'm going to start smoking. Smoking.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I got to quit smoking and then start smoking. Anyway, I'm rambling. our guest is in the waiting room. Dr. Jason Diamond, come on in. I have no idea who this guy is. He's just like, I want to be on your podcast. And I'm like, who the hell are you? And he's like, don't worry about it. You know? And I said, all right, come on. Like, just, I guess come on the podcast. So let's see what this weirdo is all about. Well, what a treat this is. Huh? Yeah, it's my best part of my week all right. That's right. That's right. So if anyone was listening to my intro, which of course they were, I said that I don't know
Starting point is 00:04:59 this fool and he just wanted to come on my podcast. But that's a lie. That is a lie. Mr. Jason Diamond, Dr. Jason Diamond, J.D., J. Dizzle, I call him Diamond in the rough because he still has a lot to learn about a few things. I just got a training. Someone just sent me a training at pitching wedge and putter. it's got like a QR code and all these things.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I'm like, I guess I give off those bodies of meetings and help. With your golf game, is that it? Yeah, it's a little backstory. So Jason and I met playing golf, actually. And I saw this dude over there. And at the time, there was some hot way that you were supposed to swing a golf club called the Stack and Tilt. Never adhered to it.
Starting point is 00:05:50 I saw J.D. stacking and tilting. I'm like, what the fuck is this guy doing right now? And it was love from then on. It was love. And so to introduce you, if you don't know J.D., if you don't know Jason Diamond, you should. He is one of the great plastic surgeons, one of the great skin care men, one of the great humans. He had a show on TV for a while. He was tired of being a celebrity, so he quit. Is that accurate? That's right, exactly. I'm better of being a doctor. Well, thanks for coming on, my man.
Starting point is 00:06:28 I appreciate it. It's my pleasure. I love time. Listen, any chance I get to have you, like, as a captive audience, and you're like one of those, you know, you're like one of those girls I was interested in high school. Like, you know, you never get the time that you need with that person. So it's like, I want to call you back. I'm like, you're available to me.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Now I've got you available. Well, you know what, because I've talked about you on this show a bunch, and there was a demand. It was like, oh, we want to hear more about my skin care of all people, you know what I mean? Which is interesting because obviously, you know, in your world, I'm sure the high percentage of client is female. Am I right about that? Probably 65% of my practice is female, but 35% somewhere in that range probably. Right, right, which I think needs to be exposed. a little bit more you know um before we get in all that i and this isn't you know again we've known
Starting point is 00:07:26 each other for a long long time but i've never really even asked you about you know sort of your upbringing where you came from what your family was like i don't even know if you have siblings you know um and then curious how you even got into this field and why you know so start with where you grew up yeah i grew up in new jersey uh from a little uh town called East Hanover. It's a suburb of New York, say about 40 minutes outside the city, all Italian town, like literally everyone from Sicily right off the boat. So everyone there is like first, second generation, like Sicilians. And I was one of the only Jews in town. So it was an interesting upbringing. And there was a lot of, you know, a lot of getting bullied and stuff in that
Starting point is 00:08:11 way as a kid. And so it's sort of, it made me kind of tough in that regard. So although I wouldn't want my kids to go through what I went through, it made me kind of tough and resilient. And so, but I have still my best friends this day are from that town. They were, like, my guys from high school, they just were out here for a golf trip. And again, I'm like an honorary Sicily now. My friends always laugh. I'm like a, on a golf scale. I'm like a one handicapped in Italian culture.
Starting point is 00:08:37 They always say, you're like almost a scratch, you know. But, you know, it was a very blue-collar upbringing with that's old tools, you know. and being a doctor was never, I mean, known from my, my peer group had aspirations to be a doctor. Did you have siblings? I have a sister, yeah. She's a year and a half younger than me. Yeah. And she still lives there.
Starting point is 00:09:01 You know, I was just in Short Hills. I don't know how far away that is, but. It's very close. Yeah, so I was there doing Happy Gilmore, too. You know, I told you. Yeah, but I was living in Short Hills for the last month. Sure. And so this is a little bit of an aside, but, you know, people have a very serious.
Starting point is 00:09:18 skewed idea of what New Jersey is. It's got terrible reputation. Everyone calls it the armpit of the east or whatever because I think all that people really know about New Jersey is when they fly in and they fly over the swamps near the meadowlands and stuff and they see all the industry and factories and stuff. But short hills, I mean, you saw how it's like Beverly Hills. I mean, I always say like, you guys don't understand short hills is as high into place as there is. Dude, so again, I was there for a month. My sister was in the city working. I was like, oh, it's going to be great. I'll work New Jersey, but I'm going to spend most of my time sort of in the city hanging with my sister and my nephews and I have friends there. I was like, oh, it's going to be a great time. Didn't
Starting point is 00:09:56 leave New Jersey one time because I fucking loved it. I didn't understand. I'd never spent time in New Jersey until this last month. And I understand the stereotype of New Jersey's shithole. I didn't see it. I loved it. The leaves were changing. It was beautiful. You know, I was on the shore the whole time you know it was amazing it was incredible i loved new jersey yeah it's it's a great place it just has a bad rip i think because people just don't understand it really they don't see enough of but yeah i grew up right by there that the short hills mall that's like you know that was sort of like it still is i think considered one of the nicest upscale type of malls like in the country as far as i understand i know people from manhattan go out there and spend days out there
Starting point is 00:10:42 It was always something we couldn't, it wasn't like for a blue-collar family like mine, but, you know, we knew of it, but it's not a place I frequented, but I know now it's very nice. So, yeah, so I grew up right by there, and I was, you know, just an average student. I was really good at baseball. I was in there riding my motorcycles and stuff like that. I was not a student, really, in any way, shape, or form. But then when I went, when it was high school years, my parents were like, you know, you need to go to the private high school. Because there are some, you know, there's some smart people on my cousins and things outside of my family. There's some smart people and they were going on in bed school and some other things.
Starting point is 00:11:21 But my parents are like, I think you need to switch school. So I luckily, by the skin of my teeth, got into a good private school there for 10th grade. It was there that I started to be around smart people and people who were interested, I don't say smart people, but people who were interested in pursuing further education. And so it was then, I was like, I better get my act together. So I started studying. I kind of became a student at that time. And I was exposed to one of my friends was involved in a car accident.
Starting point is 00:11:49 His face got all smashed up and it was pretty traumatic for everyone involved. And to see him go through the spatial reconstruction and how it made him whole and it made him like, you know, it just, it was incredible for me to see what was possible. That was my first real exposure to, like, facial work and how cool it is. and I always tell this side of it like he would bring every now like this is you know back in the 80s there were no cell or anything so the doctors they took a couple
Starting point is 00:12:14 Polaroid pictures Polaroid cameras at the time and they had intraoperative photos of him with like the scout pulled down and all the facial lungs exposed with plates and crues and blood all over the place and as a goof he would bring those pictures in once in a while and all the girls
Starting point is 00:12:29 and people run for the hills and I was obsessed with these photos every time he brought him I was oh long you see it was like hey can you bring those in like I was obsessed with it was like a weird thing so it just sort of something in my DNA I think and then did you decide to you did undergrad and did you know that you wanted to get into medicine like how did how did that happen I did because of that experience I was like you know that was really cool but it was still not something I even thought was possible for a kid from East 10 over New Jersey I didn't think it was possible so I went to college just kind of say oh yeah I think I'm going to be
Starting point is 00:13:05 pre-med, but not really thinking I was capable of it. And I was like, yeah, let me just do it, but I figured I'll just end up going into engineering, whatever else everybody did from Rochester, where I went to where I went to school. And I started taking the pre-med course. I did the pre-med curriculum. And I just, and I was doing really well. And I got really good grades and I liked it. And then next, you know, I'm like, well, shit, this is possible, you know, and I applied in med school. I got an early decision, which was unusual. And when you chose, because obviously med school's medicine so there's a million different avenues at what point where you're like this is what i want to get into you know this is what i want to do yeah so med
Starting point is 00:13:43 school like the first two years you're in class everybody's just a big auditorium learning yeah basically a new language of the biology the anatomy all that stuff and uh you don't really get exposure to much but third year you start right in way three right into the hospitals and you write to your round so you know so you get exposed to all the different fields And I always had that interest in facial anatomy from that high school experience. And when I got to the plastic surgery and the head and neck rotations, I really gravitated towards it. And I immediately fell in love with it.
Starting point is 00:14:14 I loved it much more. And I liked a lot of different fields. For a minute, I thought psychiatry is really cool. I loved talking to people. I thought that was cool. I thought orthopedic surgery was really cool because I played college baseball. And I already knew all about Tommy Johns and Rotary Cups. I knew more about than the average person because of baseball.
Starting point is 00:14:29 So I had this interest in that. But once I got to the facial analysis. I was like no, this is it. And I, so I loved it and I happened to be really good at it. And I would, you know, and I, because of my interest, you know, most people on the weekends, they were taking the weekends off because meds school, you're studying really hard. You're working really hard. But I, any free time I had, I'd go to the emergency room, just hang out with the people taking face trauma.
Starting point is 00:14:51 And like, you know, they were like, wow, yeah, you really just come in. And I'd spend all nights there, just volunteering my time to learn. And I just fell in love. And then you parlayed that. Now, was there any part of you that was like plastic surgery is a sexy field, you know? Because it is, let's be honest. Like, it's like, you know, there's a celebrity status that the sort of biggest best plastic surgeons, you know, sort of reach. There is something there where if you are, you know, a podiatrist, it's a little bit different than a, you know, like the hot Hollywood plastic surgeon.
Starting point is 00:15:30 that's that's definitely true however growing up in jersey where i grew up in and going to med school in rochester new york it was that wasn't the case there it wasn't the case i never was exposed to the celebrity aspect of it which there definitely is but i didn't know anything about that i'd never even been l.a i didn't know i didn't even know what it was like i just knew i liked the work i knew it was a good lifestyle yeah i knew it paid well i knew it was like you know and and but it was mostly because I loved it, that I was like, this is what I'm going to do, because you have to love it to get through resident. And I knew the road ahead of residency, and I knew it was going to be really hard and difficult. So you've got to love what you're doing. But yeah, for sure, you know, knowing that
Starting point is 00:16:10 you can make a good living and you're not going to work in middle of the night most of the time if you do things right. Yeah, that definitely played a part of it. But as far as, like, wanting to be a celebrity and be like famed, that wasn't even an option. Plastic surgeons weren't like even, even, even, I don't even think here in L.A. at that time in the 80s, I don't really think it was like that. I wasn't here, but it certainly wasn't like that where I was from, and that wasn't part of the service. So then you graduate, you're done.
Starting point is 00:16:37 So where did you move to L.A.? Or what did you do your, is it called a resident? Like residency? Yeah. Residency. Yes. After med school, you go to residency. Residency is where you start to specialize real in your field.
Starting point is 00:16:49 So I went to the University of Kentucky, and I went there. I interviewed it a lot of different places. But part of learning facial anatomy is, and becoming a facial plastic surgeon, you have to go through like a, you really need to understand the facial anatomy from the, from the bowels of them, from the greatest steps.
Starting point is 00:17:07 And so most of your good experience comes from doing like cancer reconstructions and chemicals and car crashes and face smashes and all those things. And so you're really doing a residency in that stuff, the cosmetic stuff comes after. You're not even really learning the aesthetic cosmetic stuff so much in residency.
Starting point is 00:17:23 You're just learning the nuts and bolts of how the face works. And it's the most intricate anatomy body, these delicate little important nerves and all the delicate little muscles. It's much more delicate in the face and much more intricate than in other parts of the body. So you're really learning all that stuff. So at the University of Kentucky, I knew that there was going to be one of the biggest experiences that I could get for several reasons. Number one, the amount of tobacco, cancer-related tobacco was in the face. There is as high as anywhere in the world other
Starting point is 00:17:52 than major West Virginia and so you're seeing all this from massive facial tumor from dip and tobacco and cigarettes and all that stuff and there's no helmet laws for motorcycle riders so you're seeing major the worst face smashes that you can see because people are getting in car in motorcycle acts no helmets so you're getting this huge and also there was no like registration like cars weren't required to be registered so like there weren't break checks and stuff. They're just all kind of ATV accidents. One of the highest number of ATV accidents in the world is in Kentucky. So I did my residency there where I got the most amazing experience. I became a very, very skilled facial surgeon doing my residency there. So I did that there. And then from
Starting point is 00:18:40 there, I moved to L.A. And that's where you learn the Finesse cosmetic one. But you have to learn the deeper stuff first or you won't be able to do the more delicate. So then what would you consider are sort of your break, you know what I mean, to get to the place, at least that, that, that jump off, you know, from where like, oh, shit, I did it. I'm here now and you can build on it. Well, I so, I did my own kind of thing. Most people, when they finish residency, because residency, you're making $1,500 a month. You're poor, you're a slave labor. You're working a hundred hours a week, making $1,500,000 a month. Fairly, okay. So, most people when they finish residency. Now they're ready to go. They rent a place. They hang a shingle, open for business,
Starting point is 00:19:26 and they start making money. They want to make money. But I didn't want to do that. I wanted to learn from the best that there was because I wanted to come right out. I have this obsessive personality. When I do something, I'm not good at a lot of things, but the things that I like, I'm not not told nobody's better. It's just the way I am. And so it was the same for this. And so when I came out, I was like, I'm not going to hang a shingle. I need to learn. from the best. So I spent two years making no money because I was but just sort of studying in an unofficial way. This wasn't like a formal program. This was just me knocking on doors and spending time with people to learn the techniques. So the most famous people in the world
Starting point is 00:20:05 were here. The best plastic surgeons in the world always have been and always will be are right here. It's where the mecca is despite what other people say. This is the mecca. And that was the case back then 25 years ago. And so I spent two years just just studying. not making any money but i really got to learn the best techniques and how to like get you know have to take little bits of what people did and make it my own and hone it to so so that's that's what i did and when i came out when i finally started practicing my results really stood really spoke for themselves and um and and you know they say that you don't develop a facelift practice till you have gray hair meaning you got to be almost you i mean practice for 20 years i developed a face
Starting point is 00:20:48 the practice right off the bat so there i'm i'm like 32 years old taking care quickly taking care of some big socialites in town and and it just the work sort of spread about the work that i was doing and that was really it wasn't like one break yeah that word of mouth stuff yeah and then from there doctor 902 and oh yes that's right that was coming out i wasn't on the first season but the first season was a big success and so they got picked up for a second season and they wanted to add fills you know they went from i think eight 30 minute episodes the first season to to 13 one hour episodes so they more than triple their air time so they needed to add what they call talent i still laughed at that they called this talent but they needed to add talent so they they started
Starting point is 00:21:32 looking around for you know it was robert ray who started the brazilian guy who had this cut off sleeves and stuff it was his idea it was his show but they wanted to add a woman and they interviewed a bunch of people and they like linda lee who became a friend of mine and they wanted kind of like the hot shot up and comer, which LA every year has 20 new hot shot up and comers and they interviewed a bunch of people and they liked me for that role. And I was like, you know, very torn on whether to do it or not because at that point, you know, TV was considered taboo, plastic surgeons, the advertising was considered taboo. Only the low level bottom feeders did that stuff. The purists, the guys who we love, Frank Kamer, Mike Drew, these guys
Starting point is 00:22:12 who, you know, who we all know and love. They were, the they were the mentors. They were my mentors. They were the godfathers. And they would have, they would have like thumbed their nose at the idea of doing anything like this. And these were the guys that taught me. And I was so torn as that these guys are going to hate it. These guys are going to hate it. And they're going to really like, they're going to bash me for it. But then, and I was talking to my wife, and Jessica, my wife said, you shouldn't do it because she's a doctor too. And she understood this. And my nurse who'd been in the business for 20 years at the time, said, yeah, you shouldn't do this because she'd work with all these guys before me.
Starting point is 00:22:42 but I realized one day I realized that I knew my results I knew would speak for themselves and I knew that people didn't really understand what this was about. People I think thought plastic survey was for people like Joan Rivers and Michael Jackson where you want to look weird and open done and I knew that I could deliver results that people could see that would really benefit their lives
Starting point is 00:23:05 and so I said you know what I'm going to do this because I know when people see these results it's going to change the game And so I decided to do it And I really feel like we were part of the revolution Like I feel like we were part of making this sort of mainstream Where people like working on a cash register Watching this on TV We'd be like oh my God like you can get a natural nose
Starting point is 00:23:24 You don't have to look like Michael Jackson Or you can really lose that turkey neck Without looking like Joan Rivers Like you know And I think it really brought this discipline Yeah and then that And how many seasons did you do with that? I did like six or seven seasons
Starting point is 00:23:38 Yeah and I mean essentially you know you become a little bit of a celebrity, you know, work does speak for itself, but once you're out there, it's like, oh, I want diamond, you know? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So let's talk about that for a second, because subtlety matters, right? Obviously, yes, people can take it overboard. We've seen it all. So do you turn down people who you're like, sorry, like, either you don't need this or you want
Starting point is 00:24:10 something that I don't provide? Yes and yes. Yes to both of those things. The first part of interviewing somebody new, and it's an interview. I mean, they're interviewing me, but I'm interviewing them too. And the first thing is, number one, can I give them what they want? And number two, is what they want appropriate for them. And if I can't give them what they want, I tell them I'm as honest as it gets, you know, at this stage, like, I just want happy patients. And the only way to get happy patience is to give people what they are expecting and so I can't give somebody what they want for whatever reason oh I'm first going to tell them sometimes that's a hard discussion I mean I got I have people literally flying in from 20 hours away to all of different four corners
Starting point is 00:24:52 of the globe flying in and on their last hope and they when they you know when they're here and they've spent all this time of money to get here and then I look at him like oh my god I can't do what I want that's a hard thing for me it's a very hard thing for me I don't take that lightly and I spend a lot of time trying to look at every angle and figure out can I kind of get them what they want to even know but if I can't I'm the first one to tell them so yes and that happens it happens for the time and then the and then I think probably as equal I think equally common is the situation where somebody
Starting point is 00:25:24 wants something and I don't know right even though they think they want it I know that it's not right for them and then those situations I tell them look you know this is not right I disagree that I'm not the guy yeah so those Things happen. Yeah, I'd have it. I'd say probably every week, at least there's somebody in one of those two situations. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like. home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight
Starting point is 00:26:23 of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I don't know. I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith. But there's an institution
Starting point is 00:27:09 that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present.
Starting point is 00:27:53 IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed.
Starting point is 00:28:44 I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack,
Starting point is 00:29:28 where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorder statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen slimmer. She started going off on me, and I hit her.
Starting point is 00:29:56 I just hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? we are starting the recording now please state your first and last name christa pike listen to unrestorable season two proof of life on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts Let me ask you a question.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Look, plastic surgery, obviously it's become way, way, way less taboo. I think because of what you're saying, this sort of revolution of subtlety, I guess, back 20 years ago, I was like, oh, if you get plastic surgery, you're going to look like a crazy person. It's become more acceptable. It's not as taboo anymore, especially for. for men, you know, look, I've gone to you, not for plastic surgery, but I've gotten the vampire facials, I've gotten the fucking lasers. And I go in there not even knowing what the hell I'm doing. I'm just like, doc, like do something to my face because I don't want to look like a leather
Starting point is 00:31:26 bag, you know what I mean? And I'm not afraid to sort of say it, you know what I'm saying? Because I just don't, I just like, I'm in a business where my face needs to look somewhat okay. But I'm always saying to you, hey, I still want to look like me. I just want to look a little cleaned up. But I digress. So you are in the business of making people feel good at the end of the day. Obviously, plastic surgery is a very, very expensive endeavor. Not a lot of people can afford what you do. There are so many people out there who would benefit from plastic surgery, who can't afford it, not just because they want to, you know, look fabulous, but because it's actually going to, you know, provide them, you know, some confidence,
Starting point is 00:32:16 some self-esteem. Do you take that into account when you're dealing with clients? Do you have sort of a, you know, a less than or a give-back or, you know what I'm saying? Like, is that a part of your practice? Yes. I certainly take everything into account. I love helping people, you know, and I, you know, and I, love to give back when I can and you know I have to use my time efficiently because
Starting point is 00:32:41 there's only one of me and these procedures take you know some of the procedures that I do or 10-hour surgeries I can only do and with the ergonomics of it all I can only do two of them a week you know so I'd love to be able to do hundreds of these you know a week for people but I I don't have so I so believe me I get I give back in more yeah ways you know I donate I donate you know I I like to, I'm very generous with my donations and things and I'm very proud of that. And, you know, being that you're asking, I'm telling, I don't go out or tell people that, you know. No, no, no, of course not.
Starting point is 00:33:17 No, you're not bragging about it, right. Yeah, I'm not, but, you know, so it's not like I can sit there and do service all day for people who can afford it. But I do what I can, at least in educating people and giving them time and, you know, and when we can do something that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. And have you ever, do you ever have moments because you've been doing it for so long? long because it's like it'd be impossible for you to admit this because it's not good for business but as an actor you go do a scene and you're like oh that was fucking great and then and then you might do a scene where you're in the car and you're driving home you're like god damn i could
Starting point is 00:33:51 have could have fucking done that a little bit better now it's it's hard to sort of compare those two things because one is sort of fluid and creative not that you're not creative but is there any part of it was ever like getting the car like she looks great or he looks great but like I could have done that a little bit better. Look, the reality is we are learning every single day. Like, I'm learning every day. And every surgery I learn something, every patient I learn something. And I continue, I'm a perfectionist, not many things in my life, but in this, I'm a perfectionist.
Starting point is 00:34:25 And I always say the day I stop learning is the day I'm going to retire. So, yeah, for sure, you know, surgeries are so complex and there's so many different parts them. And yeah, sometimes you're in there like, I don't love that cut. And you know, like, and then you do what you can to make that perfect. But it's, it's, it's, it's, it's one small part of a big thing. So, you know, so as so the, the overall result is what matters most. But as a perfectionist, you know, you like every little stitch and every little cut to be perfect. And oftentimes sometimes it's not. And then you got to, you got to work around that and make that part perfect. And then, you know, sometimes you have to take a stitch out because it doesn't look
Starting point is 00:35:05 perfect and redo it and you know again my service take forever they take long they're because we're so meticulous in that way and i always hear people talk about you know like you hear people advertise facelifts in an hour and a half there used to be this huge thing called lifestyle lift it was like every tv commercial and they promoted a facelift in an hour i can tell you if you're doing a facelift in an hour and a half you are not you're you're not going back and making it's perfect it you can't be dumb that fast in a good way. It just cannot be. And so ours take, you know, often is in there for eight hours, making every little thing perfect. So to answer your question, yeah, sure, from time to time, there are little things like, oh, man, I don't love the way I did that and I'll
Starting point is 00:35:48 go, but I'll always do everything. I tend to make that perfect. And what matters most is the overall result. And sure, are the results? I'm like, I wish that was a little. Yeah, for sure, there are but those are always thank god minor minor little things it's also probably a personal thing to you where it's like the result has no there's nothing to do with the way that you felt being a perfectionist it's the same kind of thing we're like oh dude that scene was fucking great oh my god and but you are like okay but like there's that thing i could have done but it says nothing to do with the outcome 100% yeah that does happen it's actually a good thing it pushes you forward it makes you better right absolutely and there are some times where i'll like i'll see the result and the
Starting point is 00:36:32 patient will be thrilled i'll be like this changed by i love it and i'll look out i'm like that little better i don't love that little part and like you know but they love it so i'm like great those things are few and far between but it does happen and all that i care about is yeah did when you have when you do a 10 hour surgery do you have like a lunch break no no do you like eat or you're like Yeah, it's like, it's such a weird thing. When I get into that OR, I'm a different person. Like, you know me outside of surgery. Like, yeah, I'm not OEC about anything.
Starting point is 00:37:06 I'm not super meticulous really about anything. I'm like, yeah, whatever, you know. But I get in that OR and then things change. And I become, I become like an animal. Like, I literally do things that people can't believe. So I routinely would do 10-hour surgeries without getting up one. even to go to the bathroom I like I like it's crazy because I I can just get in that zone for hours and not even know what time it is and not realize anything and
Starting point is 00:37:37 except what I'm focusing on and I've had other surgeons come in and watch me and like you are crazy like how are you doing and I just can do it and but what happened was I developed a blood clot this is about four years ago and it went up to my lung and turned into a pulmonary embolism and all my killed me. And this is like the thing that you hear about, like, you know, people sitting out in the fields forever. It was a famous news reporter. I can't remember, I can't remember his name now, but someone covering Iraq War who died at 35 years old from a P. So anyway, that happened to me like three or four years ago. My guys were like, you cannot do that anymore, like sitting there
Starting point is 00:38:13 for 10 hours not getting up. So now, you know, every two hours I'll stand up. I'll do 20 half-rays, walk around the one for a minute and then sit back down just to keep the blood flowing. Dude, that's scary, man. Yeah, yeah. And so now I will break out. out for a minute every three hours to take a sip of water and while I'm out to the bathroom. But no, it's not like I'm taking it out for lunch. No, I'll shove it down my throat in five minutes. What does it feel like to have a pulmonary embolism? Well, I couldn't breathe. It was a crazy thing. I was up in Big Bear where, you know, where we have a place and it was a summer day. And it was a hot day out there. And I was out on the boats. Like, like, when I'm
Starting point is 00:38:53 out there with kids, I'm working when they're tubing and they're just. I'm driving the bone on turn the lobes and I'm yanking the kids out of war. It's work. And it was a hot day out there and I just man I could this one day. And it's up at altitude up there at seven down. So you're huffing them huffing anyway.
Starting point is 00:39:09 But this was different. I'm like man, all day long I just couldn't breathe. I felt like it felt like after you would do a long sprint. I was like this all day and I'm like something's not right. I thought I had COVID. This was four years in the middle of COVID. And I thought it was COVID where people said they couldn't breathe. But I didn't
Starting point is 00:39:25 complain. I didn't tell anybody. I was out on that water all day, not being able to breathe, just work and not say anything. We come in from the boats from the lake at like six, and we had a bunch of people up at the house, friends and family visiting and 20 kids in the house. And my wife and the other people are like, oh, let's go into the village. It's like a 10-minute drive and village is always packed. You got to look for parking. You got to walk around. And the thought of that, I was like, there was no way I can do this. But I'm like, all right, I got up and I did it and I walked around this village for an hour and a half and the whole time. I wasn't really talking to anybody, but everybody was busy doing their own thing.
Starting point is 00:40:00 No one really paid attention. But I'm just like, man, I can't fucking breathe. I'm like, and then we get home and all the adults are having some drinks talking. And I like sneak away and I go lay down on the couch in the other room. And I couldn't even sit up and I had to lay down. And finally my wife was a doctor. She comes in. She's like, what's wrong with you?
Starting point is 00:40:16 You haven't really said anything. And she looks like, oh my God, you are as pale as a ghost. What's going on? They put an Apple Watch pulse socks on me. My oxygen saturations were 85%. My heart rate was like 120, and those are very, very worrisome signs. And my wife was like, oh, my God, something's going on. So we raced down the mountain.
Starting point is 00:40:36 We didn't say goodbye to anybody. And I ended up going to an ER on the drive, you know, just down. So we'd stop in ER and they, you have a massive pulmonary ambulance. I literally couldn't even believe those words. I was like, holy shit. And that's got a 10% dead on arrival, like, diagnosis. Those things are fatal. It moved out from your legs up into your lung, right?
Starting point is 00:41:00 Yeah, that's what happens. Yeah, people get clots where they're not moving around. It typically happens on flights or people who sit for long periods of time. That blood, because it's not really flowing, turn into a clot in the leg. And that in itself is not the problem. But when the cloth then works its way, the veins gets into the lungs, and then it lodges in there, and then you're basically suffocating. And so, dude, I couldn't believe when they told me that.
Starting point is 00:41:22 And the thing was, it was the middle of COVID. So my wife couldn't even come to my ER. So it's like midnight. She drops me off of this ER in Glendale. I go, man, I'm like, just go home. I'm like, you can't come in and I'll call you. Three in the morning they come in and tell me I have a massive pee. I mean, it was like, I couldn't believe those words I was hearing.
Starting point is 00:41:42 And I'm like, oh, my God, I'm not even going to call her. She'll freak out. I'm like, I'll call it in the morning. I call it at 6 o'clock in the morning. She couldn't believe it. I mean, we were crying. It was crazy. Are these blood thinners?
Starting point is 00:41:51 Is that what you... Yeah, so that treatment is just massive blood thinners. Like, yeah, and they got me. Ugh. Yeah, so I was okay, but I had to change the way I was doing things. So now I do get up. I walk around. I drink water.
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Starting point is 00:43:02 I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor
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Starting point is 00:43:38 There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We were getting a little bit older and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story,
Starting point is 00:44:19 a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned, and angry patience. You think you're finally with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not.
Starting point is 00:44:48 Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story, starting September 19 on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed.
Starting point is 00:45:03 Everyone say hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different.
Starting point is 00:45:25 On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorded statement.
Starting point is 00:46:04 The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of Colleen Slimmer. She just started going off on me, and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slimmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death.
Starting point is 00:46:34 row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get podcasts let's talk about skin care because you know i use your stuff just just explain i don't know all the ins and the outs of this right i've been to a few dinners you know where you're sort of
Starting point is 00:47:26 doing your thing um yeah but this is something that everyone can sort of be a part of i know that sometimes plastic surgery can be expensive. But, you know, just talk about what you're doing, you know, sort of the revolution that you are pushing. So a big part of, I think, the success that we've had are based on our results. And a big part of my results being what they are is because I have always had a strong focus in skin, which plastic surgeons typically don't. Plastic surgeons are typically working under the skin, dealing with structure. But I, along my studies, learn the importance, which is an unusual thing for plastic surgeons. So I've been using skin strategies my whole career in my facelifts and my surgical procedures.
Starting point is 00:48:09 And it largely revolving around the bioregenerative techniques, things that like the buzz terms that people hear like stem cells, PRP, exosomes, nanofat, things like this, basically strategies where we're using, letting the body repair itself. The body repairs itself better than we can. God designed it that way. We are meant to repair itself. kids can repair themselves like crazy, kids don't even scar half the time when they get lacerations because their healing is so robust. It's because the body knows how to do it. As we age, we lose
Starting point is 00:48:39 that ability. The body kind of forgets and it's all related to, again, growth factors and peptides. These are buzzwords, but these are the body signaling systems to tell the body to repair. So we can kind of remind the body how to do it by using these strategies. And it's been a huge focus of mine, my whole career. It's now gaining popular, wide popular recognition and now orthopedic surgeons are using it instead of steroids in your joints. Different areas of medicine are using different specialists are using it for all different kinds of things. But it's something that I really have understood and I've been on the forefront of. And so I realized that I don't necessarily need to keep this just in surgery. I knew I knew enough to be able to bring this
Starting point is 00:49:25 into the office and be able to offer it outside of surgery. And so we created a procedure called the insta-facial, which you know about. That's a multimodality treatment that involves using your own blood or exosomes. Again, exosomes are just a fancy term for the active part of the stem cell. And so it's ways in which we're telling the body to repair. And it just does it in an amazing way when you know how to, when you know how to teach the body. And so that's what we're doing with the skin. And so we developed a skin care line called Dr. Diamond's medicine,
Starting point is 00:50:00 and I'm using all this knowledge to create these bioregenerative techniques. And the products do just that, that they're loaded with growth factors and peptides, things which teach the body to restore itself. And the results are, they're there. And the products work. And everybody who uses them sees results immediately. And so this is what our skincare line is based. based on. It's based on things that we've learned and that we do in the office. And so
Starting point is 00:50:27 it's nothing but the highest level of product, of ingredients. And so that's what we're doing with this. Yeah. It's amazing. It really is. I just need to be more consistent because I, you know, I just, I'm not, I'm not consistent enough with all that shit because I, I just get lazy. I get lazy. Well, I'm lazy too. And, you know, and there are many skincare routines that that require 20 steps. I was like, listen, I need to create something that I'm going to use. I'm a guy just like you. It's got to be simple.
Starting point is 00:50:59 So we've got two steps right now. That's all it takes. We've got a couple little things we're adding in that will be launched soon. But these two steps, it's simple. You need nothing else right now. And it works so incredibly well. You don't need a 20-step 30-minute routine. This takes three seconds.
Starting point is 00:51:14 That's what I do love about it. It's like a drop-a-dropper thing. And then you think that's one that you push down. What is that one? with the emulsion it just feels when you put on your face it just feels like you're doing something the consistency of it is amazing and then there's and then yeah it's like you're like oh okay wow i'm like there it is yeah show it this is this is this replicates your blood with the growth factors the PRP it's this red it's like this little red uh like clear serum that's just so yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:51:48 Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's great consistency. And then the one you're talking about is the retina has the retinide ester and the antioxidants and it also has growth back. Yes. The emulsion, you can press down. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:59 And together they work. They work individually. They work even by themselves, but they work better together where the hole is greater. No, I do. And it's really interesting, you know, especially coming from me who does not really take care of his skin that great. But when you do put it on after a shower, it just, feels like, okay, I've taken a step in my life to like make myself look better.
Starting point is 00:52:25 You know, usually you just put some lotion or whatever on your face, but this, you're like, oh, shit, wait a minute. This feels like like nectar of some kind, you know? Yeah. And it's, and the thing is, I'm telling you, Alia, I see people every, the thing, the thing is, I'm in the trenches. I see people every single day, all day long from all over the world. And not a day goes by where 10 people don't come here and they say, this stuff has changed
Starting point is 00:52:47 my life. I've thrown everything else out. People are asking if I've had to face it. But this is all I'm doing. I hear it all day long. So we know it work. I know it works. I know it works. I'm like, I know it works. We hear it all day long. And so we're really proud of it. I know it works. And so having that
Starting point is 00:53:05 in the trenches. Yeah. Yeah. And the other thing too is you've been in the game for so long. And this is how long has this been around now? Like how long is when did this? I've been working on it for six years. Well, now close to seven years, but we launched a year and a half. Right. And is this, correct me if I'm wrong, but is this your first product that you have launched personally?
Starting point is 00:53:28 Right. Okay. So you've been in the game for this long and are only launching this now. That has to say something as far as the R&D that you've put into this. You know what I'm saying? Like the testing that you have done in real life, you know, real world scenarios, you could have easily put some shit out and made a ton of money like they all do but you actually wanted to make this thing right and make it real and when you were going to launch something it was going to be the best is that correct well people know look when you come to my office i'm not doing any fad stuff we're not doing any shortcuts to everything we do is the best standards the highest quality time tested things procedures that i that i have
Starting point is 00:54:08 perfect like we're i'm not putting anything out there that's not the best people know i won't even do certain procedures that i know someone else can do better than right someone else i won't even do it I'll tell him, this guy does it better. Like, I'm only doing things that I can do the best. And if I don't believe in something, I'm not doing it. And so, yeah, I mean, I, you know, where can you get it? So this is in, so you can go online to Dr. Diamond's Medicine.com. And then it's in a bunch of retail stores, Blue Mercury's and Nordstroms and things like.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Oh, great. All right, brother. Well, I love you. It was great to talk to you. Good to see you. And your skin looks great. You look awesome right now. Yeah, it's happening.
Starting point is 00:54:48 It's happening. I think I might be doing a movie in February, so I'm going to come see you again. Because I was doing Happy Gilmore, too, and I have these sunspots, right? So they had to keep covering, like, the spots. I got to get rid of those. Easy. Easy. You just got to get in.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I know. The problem with me and Diamond is I'm always in the sun. I never wear fucking sunblocks. So every time I come in, it's like, well, I can't do this because you've burned your fucking skin off. So, all right, Doc, good talking to you, baby. I can see you. All right, I'll see you. All right, later.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Okay. Dr. Diamond, what a great guy. Not only is he one of the best or the best, just a really, really, really good, solid dude. You know, he's not looking to sort of be that guy, that's that stereotypical, maybe plastic surgeon you might think of. And I will say that I'm not just. promoting his shit because he's a good friend of mine but I actually use it and um it's good it's good to be honest it's a little pricey you know but it's not crazy crazy pricey it's
Starting point is 00:55:57 pricey because it's just been you know created was all the greatest ingredients you could possibly imagine but it's worth it honestly um anyway I'm out I got to go I got to go I have an audition I got to go I got to do a chemistry read I'm not going to say with whom is it whom or who I don't know anyway it's so weird
Starting point is 00:56:20 because you do these chemistry reads where they normally were done in person meaning you go with the person you actually see the chemistry fill the chemistry now these chemistry reads are on Zoom so you're trying to create some sort of chemistry with someone on the screen
Starting point is 00:56:32 anyway I'm rambling I'm out peace God I'm out peace I just normally do straight stand up but this is a bit different what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club answer a new podcast called Wisecrack where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling
Starting point is 00:57:06 true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists and activists, to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The moment is a space for the conversations we've been having as father and daughter for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:57:53 On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:58:29 Introducing IVF disrupted, the Kind Body Story. a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IvyF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story,
Starting point is 00:58:54 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The murder of an 18-year-old girl in Graves County, Kentucky, went unsolved for years until a local housewife, a journalist, and a handful of girls came forward with a story. America, y'all better work the hell up. Bad things happens to good people in small towns. Listen to Graves County. on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season, add free, subscribe to Lava for Good Plus on Apple Podcasts.
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