Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Revel In It: Viral TikTok Teacher!

Episode Date: August 29, 2024

Brenda went from being a dedicated educator to TikTok famous almost overnight. The teacher tells Oliver the real reason her video drew so much attention, why she had to quit the career she loved, and why parents are a part of the problem.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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hi i'm kate hudson and my name is oliver hudson we wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and what it's like to be siblings We are a sibling reverie. No, no. Sibling reverie. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Reveory.

That's good. Oliver Hudson is back in Los Angeles. His summer has come to an end, or has it. His children are going to. to school in the next couple weeks. His son's birthday is coming up, but has Oliver Hudson's summer actually ended? He doesn't want it to end. He really doesn't want it to end. Oliver Hudson loves summer. In fact, Oliver Hudson, the one and only very handsome Oliver Hudson, is thinking about going to Lake Tahoe.

I'm moving to the first person now because I can't keep speaking in the third person. I don't like it. I'm thinking about going to Lake Tahoe. I had a friend who just went up there and he took these jet skis and he camped. And it looked so amazing and it was so beautiful. So I think I'm going to cap off summer. Uh, probably going, maybe going to Lake Tahoe. It's so beautiful up there. And, um, you know, I'll just get like an Airbnb, something on the water maybe. Um, in fact, maybe I'll,

now I'm just, you're listening to my thoughts. Okay. But I'm going to go on Airbnb. I'm going to check out what's going on. And then maybe I'll do Lake Tahoe. Man. Anyway, the point is, is that I don't want summer to end. I just love summer. When you go back to school, when the kids go back to school, you go back to school. When the kids go back to school, you go back to school. You got to wake up in the morning at 6.30. You got to deal with the thing. You got to pick him up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just, you know, but it is what it is. Anyway, enough rambling. We have Brenda. I call her Brenda the teacher. And she's gone a bit viral. with, I think it was on TikTok

on how she is retiring after 24 years because she just can't, she just can't take the way it seems as though parents are dealing with their children and how our educational system is sort of moving. Anyway, I don't want to speak for her, but she will be on in a second. I saw it and read something and I was like,

I want to talk to her, you know, because I have my own thoughts about education. Let's bring on Brenda so we can chat. Hey. Hey, how are you? Good, how are you? I'm good, Brenda Moretti. Thank you for coming on.

I'm excited to talk to you. I saw, you know, your, I think it was on TikTok, right? Was that where you were talking? I saw your TikToks and I was like, I got to talk to Brenda because it's just such an interesting take. and I have my own thoughts and feelings about education. You know, my kids were in, I have a 16, I have a 14, I have an 11. And they have oscillated between private and public. Now they're all in private school, but they did spend time in the LA public system.

And then in Colorado, we were there as well. But I just, before we even, I even expouse any of my opinions on anything, I just want to hear sort of what you had, reiterating what you had to say and why you did what you did and how you feel about the viral nature of what you were saying and whether that you were expecting that or not. Right. Why I did what I did, you know, because teaching is so much harder than anyone in the public understands or even. knows and I did it because I just felt like it's important to get the message out because there's so much that could change in education because there's a lot wrong with it and it breaks my heart because I see what it could be but I know what it is and I know and I've seen how it's deteriorating throughout the years and I did it because I wanted to start to spread awareness so that there could be

more support for teachers and for education, because I feel like that's dwindling, especially here in America, given what I've seen as an educator throughout the years. And did I expect it to go viral? Absolutely friggin' not. I'd never anticipated that. I think that was the day before the when I created that video, that was the day before I was deciding to resign in the middle of the year. And I was done. I just had, I mean, there was also personal things going on as well. But with education, and it broke my heart because I miss it every day, believe it or not. Did you resign? I did. You followed, you actually did it in the middle of the year? Yes, I resigned on February 14th, 2024. Valentine's Day. My mother's birthday, too. Oh, wow. Was there an inciting incident?

I know that something like this has been building, obviously. you've been in education for what 24 25 years but was there something that was the was the straw you know where it's like you know what fuck this i can't deal i can't do this anymore i i'm out it was building for obviously like you said a long time um let me back up and i'm going to answer that question yeah i was going through things with my mom my i'm my mom's POA and i live three thousand miles away from her so while i'm trying to teach class during the year i'm also talking to doctors in real time making important health decisions for her while I'm in front of 33 kids during this time. So I was feeling the stress and pressure of that plus being done

with the environment of education. And then I had a parent meeting. And it was that morning on February 14th, or the day before I forget. Anyway, it was the parent meeting. And I pretty much just after that meeting, I said, I had it. Sat down at my computer. And I said, I said, set my resignation out. Because in that meeting, you know, there's a lack of understanding what it is to be a teacher. And from some of these parents, and this is why the catalyst that pushed me over the edge, there was an expectation that you're supposed to. You're supposed to. Yeah, well, I'm supposed to be a millionaire, but I'm not, right? What do you mean? I'm supposed to. There are no supposed to's if you're a teacher because you know that you can't do everything.

But some of these parents, this one in particular, you're supposed to do this. Well, I know I'm supposed to, but I'm supposed to do that for 32 other kids as well. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So after that meeting, I just said, all right, that's it. I'm out of you. Mm-hmm. Yeah, no, okay, I totally understand what you're saying.

Again, I've been a parent to three kids. I have a – I was expelled from high school, okay, for cheating. on a chemistry test, and then I got back in. Interesting. Yeah, before I get into my own sort of philosophies about academics and where it is now and how I feel that it's a bit behind the times and there needs to be some sort of an adjustment, you know what I mean, to deal with kids today, you know, the new landscape of what it is to learn, how they're learning, how AI is completely.

changing the game and chat GPT. You can't rail against it because it's here. So then how do we create an opportunity around it? I don't know the answer to that, but we can't go backwards. Obviously, I think we need the basics. But learning and education, they're so, it's so vast and it's so broad. For me, it's about work ethic and less about grades. I always said to my kids, if you work your ass off and I see you're working your ass off and you get a D on a math test, I don't give a shit, okay?

Because this is the life lesson there is you worked hard and you failed and now you got to work hard again and try to get better. That's it. The grade itself does not matter to me. You know, I was not an academic myself. I got expelled from high school. I went to college for two years. I was not ready to learn. We all. I believe are operating on different levels. Some people are academically inclined early or have a thirst for knowledge. Some don't. Mine came after college in my 19, 20, 21. That's when all of a sudden I want to pick up books and just learn about the world. I was too immature to be in school. And when you really think about it and you're sending a kid off at 17 to college to try to go sort of find themselves in the academic space, you know, some will thrive and then some it's going to take a little bit of time, you know? Anyway, I just went off there a little bit on my own kind of philosophies. But I want to get back to the parents, okay, because this is really

why I wanted to talk to you and how you have seen that shift in 20 years. Because I looked at a TikTok of yours and you said you had these emails from 2011 and reading them back, it's just night and day difference on how these parents are, what their expectations are and how they're sort of raising their children. I want you to talk about that because I think it's extremely important. And it is extremely important because that's where everything starts. Yeah. Education starts at home, right? Let's be clear though, and I want to be clear. You know, when I made that video, I said, I'm leading because of parents, right? I'm not, it's not all parents, okay?

And I was hoping that people out there would get that, right? Because when people say, like, all teachers suck. Well, I'm smart enough to know. They don't mean every single teacher on the planet, right? But there are people out there who say, well, you're all parents. No, I mean, I was hoping people would use common sense to understand that it's hyperbolic speech, right? That being said, parents, unfortunately, through the years, like you said, I have seen their

be a huge change and shift. At one point, families were adult-centered. As the time is going on, now families are child-centered. It's all about the kids. I got no problem, you know, okay, yeah, I get it. But not when you allow the kids to rule the roost. And in a lot of homes, we teachers are seeing that in the classroom. Because when a teacher says, Sorry, you can't do that. The pushback from these children is amazing. Now, 10 years ago, no. It was okay.

Okay, Mrs. Moretti, I get it. I'll move on. Today, it's not that way. Now, this is not all kids, so let's be clear. Yeah, totally. Okay. But the point of this is those some parents who are teaching their children that the world revolves around them and everything is for them and by them and about them,

will they come in the room with that same thing? thought process because they've been reared that way. Well, we're the real world, right? Classrooms are the real world. The world doesn't work like that. So that's when then you get the pushback from some of these kids. And then you go and you try to explain this to the parents. Well, Johnny's doing X, Y, and Z, and it's the teacher's full.

So there's been the shift. Homes are now child-centered. And this type of parenting, you know, where it's the gentle or whatever they call it. Now, I don't know, I don't if you've heard those terms. No, it's the coddling. It's the coddling. There's a book called The Coddling of America. Correct.

There is no more grit. We are rearing the grit out of our children. Yes. You know, I couldn't agree more. And I live in Los Angeles, you know. So even a lot of my friends do it very differently than my wife and I do it. You know, it's codily. It's, well, how does that make you feel?

I don't give a fuck how it makes you feel, okay? this is right and this is wrong. There is no how you feel in this specific situation, okay? You're an asshole, and that's just how it is right now, you know? Kids, I believe, unconsciously want structure and they want discipline. They almost need it. I think they thrive, they thrive when they have it. And I believe just like you, we're letting our kids run too fucking free these days, you know?

I couldn't agree more. And I, that, I'm old school. I mean, I'm a lot older than you are. And I'm from the northeast. And I was born in bread. You suck it up, Buttercup. You figure it out. I mean, and that's what you don't have a lot today with these children because of the

parents. That's, there's too much coddling. You know, they're sending these kids to school and bubble wrap, right? You can't do that. But this is what we're seeing. And now in schools, we're teaching social, emotional learning. We're actually teaching it. And we're making that part of the curriculum.

It's got nothing to do with academia. But here's the deal. I understand, unless you have a child who is socially and emotionally solid, they're not going to learn anything. So I get the premise of it. But why? Why do we have to take care of this social and emotional part of them? And it's what you said.

Over time, kids are becoming with less grit, less determination, less work ethic, more coddling, and more victimization. like everybody's a victim today and these kids they're not done they see oh if i play this victim card i'm going to get away with x y and z especially in the classroom of course they're they're playing the sort of new landscape you know they understand it they're they're fucking smart they know how to they know how to do it you know what i mean and i 100% that they're doing that you know and I can see how that then translates to what you're doing because now instead of teaching children you are becoming a bit of a daycare center and trying to deal with all of these

fires these social emotional fires or these manipulations of kids who are just trying to you know buck the system in a way and again who have no no grit so when a teacher says hey, sit down, just shut up for a second. Get quiet and, you know, it's like, oh, my God. Like, you violated this feeling that I had, you know, and immediately you're off to the races of like, oh, shit. Because they, you know, shit after that is you're going to get emails and phone calls. So that one encounter, now clearly, you know, teacher's not going to say it like that, right?

No, no, no. But I get the premise, right? Yeah, yeah. Here's what happens. Here's what happens. That creates a snowball effect. That kid goes home and says, my teacher doesn't like me. I want to get out of his or her class.

Mom, dad, whoever, emails then, not the teacher sometimes. It goes right to the principal. Principal comes to you. You got to sit down and talk to the principal. Then from there, you've got to sit down and talk to the parent. And this is hours and hours and hours, literally of time because you ask a child to sit down and stop talking. And then this is what it snowballs into. Again, this is some children, and this happens sometimes.

But what ends up happening is it completely disrupts the learning environment. And I'm not saying at that moment in time, I'm saying in the future time, because your teacher has to address this now. Because they have to. And the time and energy that your teacher could be doing something else is gone. Just because you asked a child four times to sit down. My teacher doesn't like me. That's not true. I'm just asking you to follow a direction.

And this is what teachers are seeing today because of that lack of parenting saying, okay, your teacher's there. She's not asking you to do anything illegal or immoral. It will put you in harm's way. You listen. Mm-hmm. You listen. Yeah.

Or, or even, how about I don't like my teacher. Okay. So what? Guess what? You're not going to like a lot of people in life and you're going to have to deal with it. you know, I had a situation in my older one where he was in a math class with, I think it was in ninth grade, he's going into 11th, there was ninth grade and it was like she was the hardest teacher, you know, and some of the other math teachers were much easier and more

lenient, and he goes, I want to move. I'm like, no, you drew this straw. Deal with it. Figure it out. You know what I mean? And figure it, we'll figure it out. It literally, literally is going to be on my headstone. I mean, my wife hates me because she wants to plan all the time and I do not. I'm not a planner. And she's like, well, whatever. I'm like, I don't know, we'll figure it out. And I think that phrase needs to be more, it needs to be put into the children more, just not even at school, but in life. They don't have an opportunity to figure it out anymore. You know, everyone is saying, oh my God, I'm so worried. You're going to get hurt. You're going to fall down. You're going to do this. I'm like, no, go. If you want to take your bike,

you know, into Westwood or wherever I am, go. But be smart. You know what I mean? And if you get in a situation, you got to figure it out. Yeah. Back in the day, we didn't have phones. We didn't have shit. So when something went down, you had no one to call. It was like, oh, I got to, I just I got to figure this out. I got to get myself out of this situation, you know, and we just don't have that anymore. We don't allow our kids to have the opportunity to go figure it out on their own because they have such a soft landing with everything. What you're talking about, you know, is problem solving. We see that, and we see that in the classroom as teachers. Some of these kids don't, Mrs. So-and-so, my pencil doesn't work. Well, go sharpen it. I'm not kidding. I'm not exaggerating

when I say these things. I'm really not. And I taught, you know, seventh and eighth grade, well, go sharpen your pencil, you know, or Mrs. So-and-so, I have a cut in my hand. There are band-aids in the classroom. Go get them. I mean, I know this sounds ridiculous and trivial,

but I'm telling you this is what is happening. And these are 12, 13, 14-year-old kids. Not all the kids, but a lot of them. And why is if they lack the problem solving? skills. Well, I think for some of them, again, all this starts at home. You look at the children's background. You find out that, let's say that child with the little cut, I find out he only has, like it's just his mom. His dad's not in the picture. And he has three other siblings. And one of his siblings has special needs. And this little boy

is pretty much neglected. And you can tell because he comes to school and he's unkempt. His hair hasn't washed in a couple of days. So someone like him asking me what to do about the little cut in his hand, I guess, what I'm saying is he lacks those problem-solving skills because-of. There's always a because-of, and it's unfortunate, but this is what is the reality. And so this is where the lack of problem-solving skills comes from, and so far as that child is concerned. September Ones feels like the start of something new, whether it's back-to-school, new projects, or just a fresh season.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I mean, do you have to, you know, have empathy or sympathy for specific cases as you were teaching? when you look back, like the example you just gave me, I mean, that's a circumstantial, not that that's true, but if in fact that was true, there's a circumstantial situation in that family that hasn't really allowed that kid because of his mother and no father and three siblings to be able to fend for him or herself. Do you take that into account when you are sort of

you know, working with or evaluating, you know, children who may or may not have that kind of grit or can be self-sufficient. All day, every day. All day every day. Yeah, you do. You know, at the end of the day, the first thing as a teacher, we love the children. That's it. That's why you get into teaching, that in the love of learning. But absolutely, you know, in that instance, and I'm going to, I had a student like that, not exactly, okay, I'm speaking hyperbolicly and some of the background on that child, but absolutely. So there's a lot more patience, there's a lot more understanding, and there's a lot more, I mean, this poor kid, he can't help himself, right? So absolutely, you know, we're human beings. We empathize, we sympathize.

Have you got any pushback from just your sort of viral? videos of people saying there are the people who are agreeing with you and others were saying hey how dare you and you know i mean has it been both oh yeah you saw you know you probably you know you stopped you should have quit a long time ago um yeah what is yeah yeah it's the overarching thing is like have more compassion is that kind of the idea the the the haters no i think it's more hate for the profession rather than be as me personally if that makes sense to you. You know, all, you're a teacher, because you're a teacher, you suck.

I don't care who you are behind the screen. You suck. I mean, it could have been, you know, Mary Poppins who created that TikTok, right? The same response would have given to Mary Poppins because Mary's a teacher. So I think it's the profession that they're going after. You ask me about that or personally? No, personally. You know what I mean?

Where it's like, how dare you say that, that you, it's your job to take. care of the kids and you know blah blah blah and you need to you know evolve with the times and you know all that yes yes yes yes i i have gotten a lot of those um i have gotten a lot of those you know um this is whatever 19 not 1990 anymore this is to 20 24 just teach right or yeah i've gotten you were probably an ass teacher anyway um you know you suck you're too old to teach you should have like I said you should have retired a long time ago good I'm glad you're old time you're leaving you know so yes I have gotten personal with you do you does it affect you or it seems like that doesn't like you're pretty tough you're like oh fuck it I don't care I'll have

fun with it yeah I mean I'm not an asshole and I don't want to be an asshole so I try not to come off as an asshole I can be but I'm I don't want to be I mean I think we all could be assholes It's just a defense mechanism, right? But I don't want to come off that way. So if I choose to address them, I don't care. I come off with an air of I don't really care. Because honestly, Oliver, I really don't care. Because I'm the kind of person is I've never cared about what people ever thought about me.

Even as a child, I think it's because I grew up so Uber independent. And I'm so incredibly independent even as an adult. I need no one for anything in my life. I'm married and everything, but at the end of the day, I am just a very, I'm self-actualized, if that makes sense to you. I mean, that's because of my own trauma in my own life as a little girl. But that being said, I don't care. It's the best way to live, you know.

Yeah. Nobody knows our stories. Yeah. No one knows our stories. Yeah. And I'm not, you know, the way I say, and I've even said this to children, if I allow what somebody says to me to make me feel. bad or to hurt my feelings or become offended, then I'm not in control of me.

They are in control of me. And there'll be a warm day in hell before that ever happens to me. No one's going to be in control of my emotions and how I feel. You can say whatever you want to me. You could go tell me to pound sand. You could tell me I suck. You can tell me old. You're not going to determine how I respond to that.

It's your opinion. Let's go have coffee. Yeah. That's how I literally live my life because I'm in control of me. And again, this is what I teach the kids or I taught the kids. You can't allow people to control of your emotions because then you're not in control of you. They've got power of you. 100%.

That's good. 100%. When you allow someone to take your power away from you, you have to turn it around and be empowered. Yeah. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip

unforgettable, somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local, and with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca.com. host. Hi, I'm Janica Lopez and in the new season of the Overcover podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time?

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I'm just like text your ex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot, go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself. Okay. That's us. That's us. My name is Curley.

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You're like, then go to private school. do they do it differently? I know classrooms are smaller. You can pay more attention to your children. You need the students. But how do you see the difference there? And is it still existing, in your opinion, in private schools as far as how the parents...

In my opinion, it's almost worse, by the way. Some of these parents are nuts. I mean, totally crazy. But how do you differentiate the two? Everything you just set. Smaller class sizes. more teacher attention, you know, private schools are not bound by government. I mean, they do, I don't know about, at least I know some private schools here,

they do follow the common core curriculum like California standards. I don't know if that's in the private school your children go to. So they are, they do follow that, but they pretty much can write their own ticket for one. And for two, you have smaller class sizes. You have more of a chance for the teacher to get to know the kids and to get to actually teach the children. And if a child is problematic or struggling, you have more of an opportunity, let me back up. You have more of an opportunity to get to know the parents in a more personal and intimate way than you do in public school. So then there's more of a team environment.

between the child, the parent, and the teacher, because class sizes are smaller, because teachers really can get to know that child more and more and more. In a public school, you know, when I was in a class of 33 kids in a 55 to 90-minute period, depending on the school, the amount of time I spent with a child was if five minutes within a class period, if five minutes. And I'm not exaggerating. I mean, how do I teach a child one to one in five minutes? In a private school, again, it's about numbers.

It's about numbers in that ratio between teacher and student. And again, I think, you know, I did work in a private school for a little while, and parental involvement was there, but the admin took most of the parent complaints, most of the parent inquiries. The teacher didn't have to be concerned with that. In a public school, you do. You have to be involved with the parent.

And a private school, no, because again, this is just my guest. You know, the admin wants to keep that parent happy. Why? Because it's about finance. Money. Oh, yeah. It's a business. Exactly.

Exactly. So that's why admin is going to take care of that parent. I didn't really spend much time in terms of those types of things. I mean, I did talk to parents, yes, but they were more involved. In a public school, yeah, they're involved, the admin is, but predominantly it's up to the teacher at the end of the day. Mm-hmm, yeah. If I were, sorry, if I had school-age children, they'd be in private school. They would.

Where do you teach? Where did you teach? Where are you? I'm in Cald. Yeah. Where in Cali? The Bay Area. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So it's a parent problem, but it's also a system problem, right? Oh, yeah.

I mean, but how does this, how does this change? I mean, do you see it changing any time soon as far as the public school system goes? Because you're dealing with state by state. Now, you know, I moved the kids to Colorado for two years because I want to wanted to put them in the mountains. I had that experience and I wanted them to leave L.A. and find their independence and get lost in the woods. And, you know, that was important to me. We were in a public school in Colorado. And it was awesome. I mean, it was so different. In fact, one of the teachers became my wife's like best friend. You know, it was very much, there was a lot of involvement. the class sizes were definitely a little bit smaller, you know, so it's a California issue, I'm assuming, as well. There's a state-by-state, you know, situation with public school. But overall, I mean, is there anything to be done realistically in the public school system in Cali? Specifically in Cali? I guess so, or just generally, but I know there's some great public schools, obviously, around the country. But,

what what can be done you know how do you remedy this i think what you just said earlier it has to start systemically right but here's the problem and i'm going to continue to answer the question but i'm going to go backwards a little bit here's the problem any so anytime there's a system involved in anything legal system health care it's a cluster f unfortunately because why you have human beings running that system okay it is a systemic issue that's where it's How can it change? In my opinion, I think you need teachers making these decisions, not these high-positioned bureaucrats making these decisions about what goes on a classroom who've never been in a

classroom. We're in the trenches. Let us make the curriculum. Let us make the standards. Let us decide what's best in terms of discipline. Let us, let the teachers do this. Let the teachers have those high positions. or former teachers have those high positions

to make those important decisions. And I don't know how that happens, right? I don't know how that happens. But I think it has to start systemically first. You've got to get rid of those curmudgeon, you know, bureaucrats up there who are trying to tell teachers what to do in the classroom when they've never done this before.

That's number one. Number two, how does it get fixed? And no one's going to say this. No politician's going to say this. but the homes. Unfortunately, that's the facts. I have seen, and even when I do all my TikToks, the comments I get besides system, because the system's up there, but besides that, the second biggest factor to change education is home life. What's going on in homes today? Why are we seeing these kids coming in with social, emotional, physical, financial, and spiritual

deficits? Why? Because let's face it, according to Maslow, too, you know, Maslow's hierarchy of needs. The basic foundations have to be met in a child before a child is ready to do anything. And that's included learning. If I got a little boy walking in there, a little girl walking in there, who hasn't bathed in three days and you can see it because they've had the same clothes on, the hair is greasy. And I'm not making this stuff up. Stuff happens.

Your heart goes out to these kids. The last thing that child wants to do is learn. So here's the bottom line. The system has to change and homes have to change. There has to be more involvement with a child and the child's education and the child's full well-being. And here in America, too, this is another thing I believe has to change, is how we value education. In my experience, I'm not telling you this is how it is all over the country. I'm just speaking from my own first-person experience, the value of education.

has declined over the years. And what's that about? Well, let me ask a question. What is the value of education today? And I'm talking about, let's go back even to the 50s. It was you get an education and you get like a vocational job or like it really led into what you're going to do with your life. You know what I mean?

And has education evolved to meet sort of the standards of today? day and how it has shifted so much. Like, what is the value of education? Is it actually learning algebra? Is it actually learning about, you know, the slip, a slip fault? Like, what is the value and how does it help a human being? I think it goes back to the very first things you said earlier in this interview where you didn't care whether your kid got a D or learned grit.

You'd rather have your child learn grit and walk away with the D. And I'm paraphrase. Yeah, yeah. To me, that's the value of education. You get up every day. You learn how to problem solve. You become a critical thinker. You learn how to socialize.

You learn how to start something and finish something. You learn how to fail. You learn how to be determined. You learn that maybe I don't want to go to college. I want to do a vocation, which is fine. You learn that it's not about the grade. It's about the effort that you put behind it because you showed that you cared about something, that you had passion about something. Because if I have passionate about something and I get out of school and I want to be a ditch digger and I am uberly, I know that's not a word, but I'm uber passionate about being a ditch digger and I become a millionaire.

How do I become a millionaire? Because I develop passion for something. That's the value of education. Now, if you're going to go into the sciences or something, then, of course, the value of it or math, right? That's the value of education. You have to know. You have to know those. And I'm not saying that science and math or the end all, be all.

But I guess you get my point. Yeah. The value of education is learning how to be a productive member of society so that you can come out and be a productive member of society. So you can learn how to be a producer rather than just a consumer. because you can't just suck off the tit of everybody else in this country. You have to produce. To me, that's the value of education. And I know that's probably controversial.

I love that. Are you kidding me? That's exactly how I feel. The problem that I think, though, is, you know, there's no way to measure grit. There is a way to measure how many you got wrong on a test. so then you are now basing the performance of that child on the grade and not the effort and those grades that GPA will then determine what kind of future or what kind of college you might get into and so that's that's hard for me because it's not about a grade to me

So how do you measure grit and how do you reward grit by the advancement of your education if you're not getting A's? You know what I'm saying? Like it's it's tough because my kid could get seized but work his fucking ass off and he's not going to get into a great college. But the kid has worked his butt off and has learned a ton, you know, and it's probably better. It's probably, you know, going to do all right. But now he's not going to get into the college that he wants to and yada, yada, yeah. But does it matter that he didn't get into the college that he want to? Because what's the end goal?

Right. You know what I mean? I mean, what's the end goal? What does he want in this scenario? Like, what does he want to do with his life? And I'm going to say a perfect example here. I wanted to be a teacher, right? I'm not going to go to Harvard to be a teacher.

First of all, I wouldn't have gotten accepted into Harvard. But let's say, why would I go to Harvard to be a teacher to come out making $50,000 a year? Meaning, so what, that he doesn't get into that? that whatever college. What's the end goal? What does he want to do? I think the college has to match what you want to do for a living

because why would I go to Harvard and get all these bills and never pay them back on a future salary. So I guess what I would have to ask is what is the end goal for a child saying I got to get into Yale?

What's your end goal? Yeah. No, I totally agree. I mean, I knew what I wanted to do. Okay, I come from a family of entertainers. It's just sort of what it is. I was making movies and being in little things since I was a kid. So I knew that academics wasn't going to take me to my profession.

I knew I had to get involved in it early. And I went to college. I went to Boulder for two years. And I called my mom and I said, I am wasting your money. I am partying, I am having fun, and that is it. I need to come home and start my life, you know? And so, yes, I agree. What is the end goal and how will, you know, secondary education advance and get you to that goal?

You know, I guess that is the determining factor. But at the end of the day, leaving, when you're finishing high school, you don't know what the fuck you really want to do. I mean, some kids, of course, do, but you have no idea, you know? You're still a kid. Yeah, you're still a kid. You have some sort of an idea. You go to college.

I went to college, and what I learned was I learned my Social Security number. I mean, that's what I learned in college. And I learned how to open beer bottles with lighters. You know, I mean, that's pretty much it. But, yeah, this has been just a fascinating conversation. I think an important one, too. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next

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And I just hit call, said, you know, hey, I'm Jacob Schick, I'm the CEO of One Tribe Foundation, and I just wanted to call on and let her know there's a lot of people battling some of the very same things you're battling. And there is help out there. The Good Stuff podcast, Season 2, takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a non-profit fighting suicide in the veteran community. September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join host Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines of One Tribe's mission. I was married to a combat army veteran.

And he actually took his own mark to suicide. One tribe saved my life twice. There's a lot of love that flows through this place and it's sincere. Now it's a personal mission. I don't have to go to any more funerals, you know. I got blown up on a React mission. I ended up having amputation below the knee of my right leg and a traumatic brain injury because I landed on my head.

Welcome to Season 2 of the Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. The Super Secret Festi Club podcast season four is here. And we're locked in. That means more juicy cheesement. Terrible love advice. Evil spells to cast on your ex. No, no, no, no.

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The diva of the people. I'm just like text your ex. My theory is that if you need to figure out that the stove is hot. Go and touch it. Go and figure it out for yourself. Okay. That's us.

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the pieces and daring to tell the truth. I'm going to tell my story and I'm going to hold my head up. Listen to Betrayal Weekly on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I guess one last thing is as far as just your standard education. How have you seen the curriculum shift from 24, 25 years ago to now? And do you think that in the public school system that it needs to keep evolving with the times? Are we still in, are we, are we archaic? is a public school system archaic. And when you say

curriculum, you're talking about what they're standards, correct? The standards, meaning like, look, we live in a different world now. We live in a different time now. You know, what is education? Like, exactly what you're saying. It's grit.

It's, you know, it's effort. It's all of these things. Do you think that we're behind the times? Well, let's back up and say to what you just said we might be behind the times, but then again, how are we going to measure one's academic prowess? How are we going to measure?

Correct. How do I think we're behind the times? I can only speak here for California. California's curriculum is always evolving. Is it? Yeah, to keep up with. And again, this is just my opinion, to keep up with the times. For instance, here's a part of,

the curriculum that's made his way into the curriculum is SEO social emotional learning that wasn't something that we had to learn and you know put as part of our curriculum until about oh maybe five years ago I'm trying to think what else we put in what what is that what I mean explain that what is how does how do you teach that okay social emotional learning for instance maybe on a Monday Wednesday and Friday the first thing minutes of class, we would have a community circle where I would ask a question. I'd have a little ball and we'd throw the ball back and forth. And the kids would answer the question. So you're building community. You're building a quote unquote, you know, the new term, safe space. So you're building a

place for the children socially where they're getting to know each other, emotionally where they're starting to feel comfortable. You're starting to build a quote unquote family so that their social development can develop and they can develop more emotionally because why they start to feel like they belong to something. So that's what social emotional learning is, creating a space where you're developing, again, a second home, I suppose, for the lack of a better word. And you're also social emotional learning is spending time teaching children how to, and I'm going to use this word and I can't stand it, navigate their feelings. You know, you got a kid who's having these frigging words, you know.

I get, I use them too as all the fucking buzzwords now. Exactly. It's like, you know, I know. I'm going to pivot now. All right. Pivot, navigate. Yeah, whatever. So, you know, literally part of social emotional learning was, let's say I had a kid in my class who's having a meltdown.

I would now have a little space in the, whatever, of the room with his little squishy toys and toys where he can or she can stop and center themselves. So what did you do before? Like instead of the squishy corner like 10 years ago having a meltdown, how do you handle it? You sent him out to the office. You did? You can't do that anymore. So now in the classroom, the teacher, you know, I'm okay, let's, I got a council a kid. Yeah. I get at this is okay and that's a whole other conversation but so in terms of answering your question, the curriculum now has social emotional learning. Yes, yes. Totally. I get it. So what you're saying is before it was like you're having a breakdown, go to the office, call your parents to do

whatever you got to do. But I have a job to do in the classroom. I'm not, I hear me here to teach. But now I have to take 10 minutes out of my time to put you in the squishy, corner and you know stroke your head and say everything's everything's going to be okay rather than saying hey look you're having a moment go outside you know when that moment is over you can come right back in right and you would say that 10 years ago was better or easier it was easier yeah a because you didn't have so many children with social emotional needs it was different and be for those that did, you could say, hey, Johnny, man, you know, here's a pass, go to the office. Yeah.

And Johnny would come back, maybe. Johnny would not come back, maybe. It just depended, but Johnny would come back. And a lot of times Johnny wouldn't keep doing that. Yeah. Today. And by the way, you're seeing way more of those sort of meltdowns or those social, emotional deficiencies now than you did 10 years ago, like by a long shot.

Absolutely. I mean, yes. And not only that, and I know this is not part of it, but it's going to parlay into it, more students with ADD, ADHD, ODD, more students with IEPs, 504s. I mean, to give them out, like candy. Do you think the diagnoses are just getting more, you know what I mean? The diagnosis are, they have names and letters and numbers for all this shit now. And everyone had it back then, but it was just called. called something else, you know? It's like, Johnny, you're like, you're hyper. You're nuts. Like, go calm yourself down. Now that's ADD and needs to be addressed rather than you're crazy, like, figure it out. Right.

And that comes with awareness, right? Where we are more aware now when you see X, Y, and Z behaviors, oh, that's showing as ADD. But here's the deal. You have, unfortunately, a lot of kids who are being given these 504s and IEPs, or let me, 504s, which 504s is, less than an IEP, for ADD and ADHD, and some of them aren't. The parents push for it, not in all cases.

I mean, most of them are needed. Yeah, yes. Most of them are needed. Yeah, and I'm not knocking any of that, by the way. I mean, I think the diagnosis is great because then you can work on it, because you, there are remedies, whether it's medicine or just meditation or, you know, self-awareness. There's lots of things that can help once diagnosed. There's no doubt about that.

So I'm not knocking that at all, you know. So what's the plan? What are you doing now? You're done with teaching or are you just going to teach in a different capacity? Well, I'm trying to sub. And what am I doing? I'm still, you know, let's back up. I retired way too early.

Way too early. I mean, I didn't want to go, but I had to go for my own mental well-being. What am I going to do? I don't know. I am still, I need a purpose. I need a purpose in life. And I don't know where to parlay my strengths. I don't.

And this is what I'm struggling with now. Is that scary to you a little bit? It is scary insofar is just because I know who I am. I'm the kind of person who has to be productive. I set goals for myself, even yearly goals have nothing to do with education. So for me, that's scary because for me to be sedentary is just, not something I can do. Financially, thank God I'm okay, because I have a husband, blah, blah.

So, but it's scary only insofar as my own life is concerned, because I'm not one to just get up every day, you know, and do nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So that part is scary for me because I have to have a purpose, because I think I have just too much to offer. I have too much to give. I have, and I'm not saying, I'm not patting myself on the back. That's not my business. I'm nobody. I'm not important.

I know I'm nobody. I'm just a working class slob for me. That's how I describe myself. I'm not saying anybody else is. That's how I describe myself. Just a working class lob, trying to make it through this world. And I just want to be able to offer what I have. You know, the irony is however old you are and you've been through your life

and you've, you understand the educational system more than most because you've seen it evolve or devolve. But now you're almost a child yourself. You're back to square one as far as what is my purpose? What do I do? These are all questions that you ask yourself after you graduate college. You're in college. You know what I mean?

Like you're almost, the irony is you've almost gone back to sort of having to reestablish your life and figure it out, figure out what you want to do for the rest of it. You know what I mean? It's kind of interesting. And that's the scary part, because I had a purpose. I had a purpose. And it was teaching. I had a purpose.

And I'm 60, right? So what do you do? What do you do it? What do you do it? Not that that's old. No. Brad Pitt is 60. It will be a little bit better than I.

You still got a whole life ahead of you. Right. But I completely feel the way that you just said, I am now, what's my friggin' purpose? That frigging 60. Come on. Yeah, no. You'll find it. You'll find it. I mean, you probably just have to open up your mind a little bit, move outside of this, your teacher mind and figure something out. If finances aren't really an issue, you know, then your sky's the limit, you know. Could be something, I don't know. Let me know if you figure it out. Maybe I'll join you. Well, this has been fun. We got a role, and I appreciate you coming on.

It's just, you know, you read about education. You know, obviously in this election cycle, it's always being talked about. And it's just fun to sort of hear someone's opinion who is not necessarily in the world that I'm living in now with sort of the, coddling and how you feel and it's like no yeah i couldn't do this anymore parents need to get their shit together parents need to understand that their kids are better off when they when they are given the opportunity to be independent and figure their own shit out so i appreciate you coming on thank you for having me i've really enjoyed this yeah this was fun and uh let me know let me know when you figure out the next path. I'm curious. You got a lot of fire. You know what I mean? So use

that. Whatever it is. You know, maybe you just be a TikTok sensation. Like I mean, it wants to be. Yeah. All the kids want followers. And look, their teach got as more followers than they do now. So maybe this is your new path. I don't know, man. It'll happen because I'm not, you know, I'm going to keep pushing forward, so. All right, good. All right, cool. I'll talk to you. I'll talk to you again, hopefully.

Good luck with everything. It was nice to meet you. Okay. Take it easy. All right, you too. Bye. Well, there you have it. I think I'd like her.

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