Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Revel In It: What I Like About Jennie Garth

Episode Date: December 19, 2024

Formative years on a farm and six siblings to boot, Jennie Garth went from being a hometown girl to a household name. She joins Oliver for a Hollywood style heart-to-heart where she describes being the baby in the family and how her parents created a real-life Brady Bunch!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos.

Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The moment is a space for the conversation. we've been having us father and daughter for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson.

And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling reverie. No, no. Sibling reverie. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling rivalry.

That's good. Old man, look at my life. I'm a lost like you. Old man, look at my life. I'm a lot like you. I sing that song because I just, my face just popped up on the Zoom. It's 10 o'clock in the morning. You know, the lighting's not great in my son's room,

because this is where I'm doing my fucking podcast, because after five years of doing podcasting, I still have no background. I've got no production value. I've got no aesthetic. It's kind of just me. Sometimes it's in my son's room. Sometimes it's in my older son's room.

Sometimes I do it in the kitchen. I got to get my shit together. Anyway, I popped up and, man, you know, it's pushing 50. You know what I'm saying? I'm 48, but, you know, sometimes you pop up on the screen. You're just like, holy shit. There you are, old man.

But that's okay, you know, because I, there are doctors to help with that. You know what I'm saying? A little pup, pop, a little skuck, skuck, a little tif-toof-toos. And then bang, you know, you'll look 25 again. Or like Wayne Newton, either one, I'll take. But I'm still young in spirit. Too young in spirit.

I think my emotional intelligence has to, you know what I mean, sort of catch up because, I think I'm 20. I look 60. You know what I mean? Like, it just doesn't work. When you drink like a 20-year-old, when you stay up like a 20-year-old, when you party like a 20-year-old, when you indulge like a 20-year-old, you don't bounce back the way that you used to. You know what I'm saying?

Anyway, here we are back again. And we have a very fun guest in the waiting room. She is someone who we all grew up on for the most part. I certainly did. Back when TV, you know, you had to sort of wait the next week. 90210 was the show to watch. Absolutely no doubt about it. Everyone had their favorite characters.

Everyone, everyone had their people who they were sort of into. And now I am talking about Jenny Garth. Jenny Garth reached icon status back in the day, excited to talk to her about numerous things, many, many things. And let's bring her in. Well, look who it is. It's me. Hi. Hi. How are you?

I'm good. How are you? I'm okay. You know what? That's the best fucking answer because it's just the real answer. Everyone says that we live in pleasantries. How are you? I'm good. A lot of the times I don't answer that. I want to answer sort of honestly unless I just want to get out of the conversation.

You know what I mean? Then you just don't answer at all. Then you just like, I'm good. And then you move on. Right. But how are you? It's like, I'm okay. I'm okay.

You know, there's certain parts of my life that are good. and then there's certain parts that could be better. Or I just had a hard time waking up this morning. Did you? I did. I hadn't been sleeping for the last couple of nights, so I took a sleeping pill. Oh. Every time I take a sleeping pill, I remember why I don't take sleeping pills.

Yeah. Well, why were you having trouble sleeping? Who knows? Oh, is it just that? My brain. I know. I know. I have that issue.

I have that issue. The minute I, it's hard because I'll wake up at like four in the morning and have to make a conscious effort. Now, when I'm making a conscious effort, obviously my brain is now flipped on, but I'm still making a conscious effort not to flip my brain on. Because the minute it turns on, boom, I'm done. Oh, it's the worst. No, I know. I know. I don't do the sleeping pill thing.

Yeah, I don't recommend it. I did, I was flying to Milan once, and I was a young buck. and I had taken an ambient and I had never taken one before on the airplane to Milan and I had an experience that you hear sometimes where you don't sleep

and you completely lose your shit and that's what happened to me on the airplane wait how'd you lose your shit because I was in this sort of middle ground between sleep and wait and awake and I didn't know where I was

I was just in this sort of hallucinating state could not fall asleep but at the same time my body was just my soul wanted to leave my body wanted to get out of there and it was horrible that's brutal yeah I usually save them for

over like long flights overnight flights but yeah something similar like that happened to me on an overnight flight my husband he administers them to me I don't know it gives him some sense of power like a little plastic cup

like you're like you're no just that out of his dirty pocket. But he gave me one. We were sitting waiting to board, and then they were like, oh, guess what? The flight is delayed an hour. And so I had just taken the pill. And he was like, oh, my God.

So I was, I don't even remember that flight at all. Oh, my God. I used to be deathly afraid of flying. I don't know where it came from, but it was a control thing. But I used to, I mean, it's like throw up before the flights. Like, my wife, you know, I'd be like, look, I'm not ignoring you. I just go super inward and, like, focus and concentrate. So she dropped me off at the airport and I would even, like, say goodbye because I'm so worried

about, like, throwing up. And I was horrible. Yeah. So I used to take two Xanax and drink, like, three beers. Same thing. And then I would be completely loopy and crazy for about 10 to 15 minutes. And then I'm out. Good times.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And now I just, now I'll eat like a nighttime sort of gummy, some weed, and that helps me out. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's the things we have to do to get good sleep. No, I know. Well, thanks for coming on. I appreciate this. I'm so happy to be here. No, I know. So let's talk about your childhood a little bit. Let's talk about your upbringing because you have multiple siblings. Is this correct? Yes, I do. How many you got?

I've got, it's his, hers, and ours kind of situation. My parents were both married before, and then they got married and had me. So I'm the, you know, the chosen one. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Now, you believe that. I'm the baby, and, yeah, I'm the baby, and everybody reminds me of it all the time. But I have four half sisters and two half brothers.

Okay. Okay. So four half-brothers, two-half-sisters. Four-half-sisters. Four-half-sisters and two-half-brothers. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So the sort of childhood circumstances, you know, growing up in that kind of family, what was the spread like?

They were all older than me, so much older than me. Right. That they were pretty much out of the house a lot. The brothers were gone. two of my sisters were gone one of my sisters was gone and so it was just three sisters and me and it was at my sister cammy really was kind of like my mom she got me ready for school took me to school my mom was working all the time so she was like my little nanny and we're very close because that, and then my other two sisters were very much tomboyes. They were outside doing stuff

all the time with the animals. I grew up on a farm in Illinois, so a very rural situation. Was it, did it feel like you had a lot of siblings, you know, even though they were out of the house, or was it like kind of disconnected because of the halves and then just the gaps? No, it wasn't, it didn't feel like that. It felt like I had, I was close, I had a bunch of sisters and brothers that would come and we would always, you know, do like barbecues and stuff. And our farm was where everybody came to sort of get back together. So I, I always felt like I had good, like, group of brothers and sisters available all the time. And it was a very free, free living on the farm, meaning, you know, were there not a lot of rules.

no I mean it was I had a pink huffy dirt bike that I rode everywhere and I just spend my days like right it when I wasn't at school I would be just riding my bike around was like 25 acres in the middle of nowhere wow and I would just play with animals all day and make like dirt bike tracks and go down by the river and we our house our property had a graveyard on it Wow. It wasn't ours, but it was like, it had been built in there. And I would hang out in there and just, like, put flowers on all the graves all the day and talk to the dead people. Wow. There's something very cinematic that I'm picturing in my brain. It was pretty idealic.

It was pretty special. Yeah. Did you, do you believe in ghosts? I believe in spirits. You believe in spirits. Have you experienced? I don't know. Is there a difference between a ghost and spirit?

No, I don't even know. what the hell a ghost or a spirit is. I mean, I have had moments, you know, where I feel like I have dealt with the supernatural. Have you had any of those experiences, especially living on a place where there might be, where there's a cemetery? I don't think I've ever, like, had to deal with it. I just always have felt energies from starting out with that, from the people that were buried there. And I just feel like people that I love that have been. passed away. I feel their energies all the time. Yeah. So it's never been anything like bad. Yeah. No, I know. So we were in London or outside of London. My mom, I was a young dude and my

sister was very young. And mom was doing a movie out there. I don't remember which one. But we were staying at this old manner. It was old, old, old. It was really beautiful at this tutor house. and it was 100% haunted. I mean, I remember it, unless my little brain is creating these, you know, scenarios that didn't really exist. So we don't know, but we did leave the house after three weeks, and we were supposed to be there for like three months because whatever spirit was in this house did not like my sister. Yeah, so she would, we were, we slept in the same room, she was little, little, and she would fall out of bed. every night, which she never did. That was one thing.

There was a place in the hallway where there was nothing there on the upstairs and the upstairs that she would literally trip over every time that she passed. Oh, my God. We would sit downstairs and we'd hear footsteps up the gravel walkway and, you know, open up the door and there was nobody there. We had the pots and the pans would just start shaking, you know. There was a lot of weird shit going on. Yeah, somebody did not want you in there.

Yes. And then the final straw was this. My sister had her little wellies on. It was kind of rainy out. And there was a pool. It was wintertime. And it was all gated off. And the caretaker was a caretaker in the house. And he was having his morning tea. And he sees my sister in the pool. And he goes to open up the gate, you know, to get in. But it's deadbolt locked. So we still don't know how Kate She doesn't remember how she got in the pool But he jumped the fence and got her out of the pool Wow, that is so crazy So at that point I think mom was like All right, we're out of here Pack it up, let's go

Yeah, yeah exactly Oh, I'm so glad he saved her Yes, he saved her He saved her So then growing up in Illinois Illinois, at what point did you sort of want to be a creative or want to be an actor? You know, I mean, it's, I've been around it all my life. You know, you were around a lot different things, animals.

You know. Pigs and horses. Pigs, unless you were doing plays with the, you know, the pigs and horses. No, I never was, I never knew that was an option. I never, we didn't go to the movies. We were, it was very rural. and I didn't know you could be an actor. I didn't know I could be a performer.

I know that my mom says that I always used to dance in front of the sliding glass door. You know how you used to your reflection in it. She said she would always catch me looking at myself in the mirror and dancing. But that's as close as I ever got to doing anything like that. But we moved to Arizona. My dad got sick in Illinois and had a heart attack, several heart attacks. So the climate there was too tough for him. So we moved to Arizona where it was drier for him.

How old were you? I was 12. Okay. And we left one sister. My mommy nanny sister left her in Illinois. How was that? Was that hard? Yeah, because as a 12-year-old, you know, I have 17, 14, and 11 right now.

And they're so ingrained in their world, in their friends, and where they live. To pull them out of that, they would kill me. Yeah, I think leaving my sister was the hardest part of it for me, for sure. And that was very traumatic, I know, for both of us. But we ended up in Arizona, and that is kind of where I started to turn into a teen, you know, and dress like Madonna. And, you know, I thought I was hot shit. I would wear high heels to middle school. Because I came off this farm where nothing mattered, and I moved.

to Arizona in the heart of the city where everybody was different and I was just trying to figure out like, okay, how do I stay afloat in this environment? Who am I? What do I have to do to do to fit in here? And so I just sort of decided that was the best way. I don't know why, but it wasn't until I was dancing. I was teaching little kids how to dance at the corner dance studio. I would walk there from my mom's condo and teach kids how to dance. And And somehow, yeah, tap, tap dance was my, yeah, that was my jam. And I would, somebody asked me to be in like this scholarship pageant for dance. If you want it, you got free classes or something.

I don't even know. And I went and I did that. I didn't win. But at that pageant, I was, I guess, discovered by a talent manager. His name was Randy James. and he had been cajoled into doing this, like being a judge at this pageant by one of his industry friends. He was doing a solid for somebody and he came there.

Are you still with Randy, by the way? I am still with Randy. Oh, my God. Yeah. He's still my manager to this day. That's crazy because he was my wife's Aaron. Erin, her name was Aaron Bartlett at the time. But he was my wife's manager, so I know Randy.

You know Randy. That's so funny. Yep. I'm still with him after all. amazing. I just have, I'm very loyal. I have a loyalty thing. I don't fix something unless it's broken. Yeah. And then I try to fix it. But, you know, he's just, he's like my dad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And my best friend, sorry, he gets mad when I call him my dad. Because he makes him feel old. So he's, he's, so he basically discovered you. A hundred percent. I never would have thought, oh, I'm going to move to L.A. and be an

actress. Wow. Go on audition. Never, never. And he was just like, all right, you have something. Is this something you want to pursue? And you're like, all right, sure, I guess I'll try it. Yeah, I think it was like, you have a great look, you know, that one of those. And I was like, okay, this guy's creepy. Yeah. But his wife was with him. So that sort of legitimized it a little bit. And I, my mom was with me. So we sat down and talked to them. And then he went back to L.A. and my, they, he suggested that I start taking acting lessons. So I would go to this woman and take an acting class once a week and she would send him the VHS tapes in the mail and that he

would watch them and he would give me notes and things to work on and I would try to do that and then I think the time just came where my mom was at like a lull and she said let's go let's try it let's go to L.A. and see what happens. Wow. I was like okay. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, are just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility,

thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September,

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And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in.

To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in. in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paula Ramos as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We were getting a little bit older and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHart Podcasts, present IVF disrupted the kind body story a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care

introducing kind body a new generation of women's health and fertility care backed by millions in venture capital and private equity it grew like a tech startup while kind body did help women start families it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story starting September 19 on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So like it's not. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to Mike. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now.

Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorder statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of a record. Colleen Slimmer. She just started going off on Eve and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995,

18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slimmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades. raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now.

Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And so you hadn't even auditioned really then? No. No, it's just you were doing local acting classes. Once a week, yeah.

Once a week. This is so great because you always hear the story of the actor, which is like, you know, I just pursued my dreams. It's what I wanted to do. It was in my blood. It's what I want to do. I did local theater until my fingers bled, you know. But it's just like, okay, let's give it a shot.

I've always been like very sort of go with the flow. Yeah. Whatever the wind blew me. Yeah. And it blew me to L.A. And knocked on Randy's door one day. And he was like, oh, shit. Okay.

Let's do this. I guess you guys took me seriously. Okay, let's do this. And I started going on auditions, you know, with my little Thomas guide. Yeah. Oh, my God. Remember the fucking Thomas guide? I have one.

No, you don't. Oliver, I found one in my mom's. house and it's i think it's from 1997 and it has her name i wish i could show it to you right into my office has her name on it so nobody stole it because they were you know that was a trailer oh yeah oh yeah yeah i mean i wish i didn't find anything without that because they're no that was it that was it i mean i used to go on audition i didn't i grew up in l.a but still i mean you go on audition's like throw your thomas guide out fucking like searching for you know like cross streets But it's funny because now we think that that's so crazy because, of course, the world that we live in.

But back then, it was just what it was. Yeah. You had to add on a little extra time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Imagine these kids today.

No. No concept. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, so you're just cruising around L.A. with your Thomas Guide, hitting up auditions. How old were you? I must have been 16. 15. I was 15 for a while. And then I started driving myself and I was 16.

Okay. And then what was your first gig? I might have this wrong, but I want to say my first job was on growing pains. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it was a shoot, a night shoot, I remember, and I was driving by Kirk Cameron and his brother, I can't remember, in their car, and my character was, I guess, hitting on them. She says to them, I don't know what. She ends up saying sticky, sticky, sticky. That was my line.

That's all I know. One word three times, and I nailed it. Yeah, good. Perfect. And my manager Randy will tell the funny story because I am not one for night shoots. I don't really love waiting for the camera to be ready. Yeah. Like there's so much I don't love about what I do in the industry.

But there are those glimmers, those moments of like being in that connected speaking. in a character's body and feeling like there's something about the camera and the relationship and there's something about it that I do really love. But even on my very first job, I was complaining to him about like, oh, it's so late, I'm cold, where do I, they don't have a chair for me. This is my first job. He's like, you're born to succeed. Oh, she's going to, yeah.

That's your attitude. She's a star. She's a star. That's so funny, I'm, you and I are very, very similar. You know, acting for me was something that my whole family did, but it's not what I wanted to do. I wanted to create, make movies, you know, produce, direct, write. Like, that's what got me going. But I kind of was like, you know, they all do it, so I'll try it.

And it worked out. You always want a gig because you're, you know, you're striving for it. The minute you get the gig, you're like, oh, shit, I got to go fucking to work. And then you're sitting around. I'm like you. I hate waiting around. I get so antsy and it's the part of this job that I don't love

and it's you have those moments I say this all the time those moments have a great scene we're like okay that was really fun and you get that rush only to watch it when it airs to be destroyed by editing

where you're like oh shit okay there you go oh yeah and then you're cringing you're like oh my god I should never watch myself again yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah it's an interesting it's an interesting industry for sure yeah no i know are you we'll get back i want to get back to your timeline for a second but did you but did you are you still have you stopped are you like overacting i i'm over being a pawn in someone else's chess game um you know i never quite

i produced projects and i crossed over and did all the casting and did producing a produced TV movies. I produced Lifetime Hallmark. And then we produced BH90210 in 2018, which was a pretty huge deal. And I love all of that. Like I love producing and that kind of stuff. And then I was just tired of like auditioning in my garage. I was tired of waiting for somebody to call me and tell me that I was the right fit for something. And I just decided to sort of take my life into my own hands and make some different choices after I turned 50 I just kind of wanted to change but I don't think I will ever say I'm done acting I love it and you don't need it basically I don't need it no yeah yeah do you feel like 902 and oh was sort of a double

edge sword meaning like it made you wildly popular and made you money and all that stuff but it sort of stuck you in this place where you couldn't that you couldn't break out of? For sure. Yeah. When you're like, I have so much more to offer, you guys. And I didn't even know what I had to offer because I never even really got the chance to figure that out.

It just happened so quickly. And then I was in that boat and, you know, I had to sink or swim. Yeah. I swam. So did you, how old were you when you got that gig? When was that? 16. You were 16.

Shit, man. So long. It's a long. Tell me about it. Oh, my God. I know. So that was just a regular audition, right? I mean, it was just one of those casting calls that you moved up the line, you know, pre-read, producers, testing. They pre-read me and then they didn't want to have me back. They said I wasn't right.

Oh, really? Because I wasn't. I was a farm girl from the Midwest and auditioning to be this Beverly Hills bitch. And my manager, Randy, called his friend Tony, who was the cast. guy for spelling and said, look, give her another chance, get her in the room with Aaron, please, please. So it was basically a favor to him. And they got me back in, and Aaron, Aaron Spelling saw something that he liked, I guess. Crazy. What were the nerves like for you, like on first day? Holy shit, I'm a part of a show. But you obviously had no idea how big it was going to be, but it's still a big deal. I didn't really know enough to have nerves. That's the

thing. I was just thrown into this completely foreign world and environment. And I was like, okay, well, I watched, one of my, I had a job before that where I played Barbara Eden's daughter. And I would just sit and watch her the whole time I was at work, watch her from the minute she stepped on to set in the makeup trailer with the warder people, like, I was studying her basically trying to figure out what it was that this was all about. And I learned so much from her because she's such a professional and I just threw myself in like I didn't know if what I was doing was right or wrong but I just jumped in with like this weird confidence that I don't know where that came from I think it was like fake it till you make it and I just learned that way

yeah that's pretty great that's pretty great I do everything like I just jump in the deep end I'm jealous because I have too much of I don't want to look bad I care what people think about me. If I fuck up my lines, this is especially when I started, if I fuck up my lines, people are going to think, I'm total dog shit. I'm holding up everyone. I mean, this is what would go through my head, which would just suffocate any sort of freedom back in a day, you know. But it's amazing to have that. You know, I love that. I wish I had more of that, even now, you know, where a lot of my family members have that. I don't give a fuck. I don't care what you think about me. I'm going to go just do this.

And you still don't have that. I mean, I do more. I'm 48, and I've been doing this for a million years now. And I do. I have more of that sort of, you know, I don't give a shit. But there's still something, it's deep, you know, without getting into my whole psychology, you know, with my dad leaving when I was a kid and banned him. I mean, that shit actually plays a part, you know, because it's this sort of. irrational psychological fear that if you do something wrong they won't like you you know what i'm saying

and even though cerebrally i know that that's just complete horseshit you know there's there's that that sort of little child the depth of you the bubbling tar that will just kind of always simmer and believe me i have done a ton of work i mean i've been in therapy i went to the hoffman institute i mean i am constantly working on myself um so but But I think there's all, you're always going to have residual, residual pain, residual traumas, even though if you're working through. Absolutely. Yeah.

No. You know, for sure. I think I was more of the mind of like, if I do something right, they like me. Oh, I'm going to keep doing something right. So I set myself up for always pleasing people, you know, doing what was expected of me and being a, like, a professional and being a trooper. like I didn't have that in my mind of if I fuck up they're not going to like me yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah your glasses have full you know I'm sort of glasses I mean it's varied through the years

of course I mean there's no doubt but just thinking about that like that ability to jump into a deep end yeah and be like well I'll figure it out other people are doing it I can do this yeah it's great and that's who you are generally Pretty much, yeah. Yeah. I think my parents always taught me there's nothing you can't do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I believed them.

Yeah. Why wouldn't I believe them? No, I know. Like if the toilet's broken, try to fix it. Exactly. I know, look, I'm very grateful for the way that I grew up. There's also a part of me that wish that I grew up with more grit. You know what I'm saying?

I understand. My parents did an incredible job. There's no doubt about it given the circumstances. Mm-hmm. And it's a different world. I grew up in a very different world that you did. My kids are growing up in a similar world that you grew up in to some degree. And so everybody's got it different. Even from me to my kids, like every generation is going to have it so different. I know. It's interesting because you grew up in a place that you can sort of inform them, you know, on what real life is. My parents did the same thing. I mean, they came from nothing. So we were, at a young age, you know, learned that this isn't necessarily the real world, you know. Right. And I try to pass that on to my kids as well, even though I grew up, you know, very well off.

With you and the kids, I mean, are you, is that a really sort of solid part of how you parent, meaning like, yeah, people know who mom is, we have nice things. but you got to work for your shit. Yeah. Listen, I had no idea what I was doing when I became a mom. I have a little more experience now. Like I feel like with that too, I just jumped in and did my best. But who knows? I hope I did a good job.

My girls are all really nice people and they're fun. And they have that confidence that they are going to need. in their lives to make things work, but who knows? I hope I have. How old are your kids? Oh, my gosh. Okay. My youngest is 18.

Okay. My middle one is 20. Oh, she'll be 22 this week. Mm-hmm. And my oldest is 27. Oh, God. That's crazy. It's insane.

We hang out, and I'm like, this is so weird. I'm your mom. That is crazy. So you're basically. done. I mean, meaning like 18 is it. I'm almost free, Oliver. Wow. But, but that you're never free. No, you're never free. I hate to burst the bubble, but you're never free. You're never free. But that's okay. They always, the girls always come home too. Like, that's how it works. Girls always come back to the mom. Yeah. And, um, yeah, but they're like my, I'm still raising them all the time,

but I'm also still raising myself. So. Yeah. Oh, 100. I mean, my mom just turned 79, and she's still trying to raise me. I know. I'm like, Mom, I'll lie. I got it. I think I'm good. I know. I'll never stop.

Sorry to tell you. No, I know. It never does. Wow, that's crazy. You know, I always say this, you know, similar to what you said, which is like, I don't know. I just did my best. I think that, you know, it's not about if we fuck up the kids.

as to what degree because we are all sort of trying to figure it out as we go and the third one, at least in my case, benefits from the first one because he was the experiment and I would do it totally differently

with my first one if I had already gone through three and was able to do it again. What would you do differently? Well, we were we tried to sleep trained and early and, you know, schedule and this and that and you know he was like crying and probably just fucking starving and

we were like nope you know it's not time for you to have your baba yet and no titty for you like you're you're six weeks old fucking cry it out and I you know I mean I would have him in my bed more there would just be more freedom you know more just sort of just just big love all the time and who gives a shit where with my third one really that's kind of what it was. Mm-hmm. And you can see it in their personalities. You can see it 100%.

And my oldest has so much, like, resentment for the youngest because she's had it so easy. Like, I've been like, yeah, whatever you want. Sure, stay out. Just keep in touch with me. Like, I'm just such a different mom now. I wish, too, that I, but I was pretty, like, goy, flowy with the first one. Yeah. I was so young.

I didn't know what I was doing. Yeah. And she was so cute. And I just had it with me everywhere I went. No, I know. I know. And I wish I did that. You know, I wish I did that.

But, you know, they are who they are now because of what we did. And that's it. And you can't really waste your time thinking, oh, what did I do wrong? Or how could I have done it better? Or what are you going to be in therapy because of me? Yes. You got to just be like, look, I did my best. Yes.

Sorry if my best wasn't good enough. Right. But I can't. It's best to just prepare them. look all you guys are going to be in therapy at some point all right just I told my kids become a therapist it's like the best it's never that job is you're going to always have job security if you're like psychological oh my gosh yes for sure for sure my kid went my oldest went through because I went through gnarly anxiety you know it's part of my being honestly since my in my 20s and

there's bouts of it to pop up and I'm on lexapro and it's managed but still it can it pop up and there's a genetic component to it I think my son had that when he was was in eighth grade, you know, and he went into therapy just for a minute, but he didn't like it. And I understood it. And I kind of took him out of it. And I just sort of worked with him for about a month. We kept him out from school because it was, you know, he just felt like he was not real. That's what he said. He was just association. You know what I mean? But having gone through it myself, I was able to sort of take him through that, not to say you won't be in therapy later in his life. I'm sure he will.

Probably. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place will stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone?

Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one.

We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might live. lose the faith. But there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that

Paola and I don't call or text each other sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize

fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health. health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands,

and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin.

So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorded statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail and Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen

Slimmer. She started going off on me, and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista.

We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life On the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So, you know, for 90210, when you're that young, going on to a set with teenagers, in that first year, you know, second year, was it just, was it a blast?

Was it like a party? was everyone having fun or was it super actuary and professional or you know what was that like when you get a bunch of teenagers together to just party and like have the best time yeah we had no supervision basically other than like the ad standing outside yeah back then it was like the door we luckily we were all pretty good kids you were yeah and we there was this like we're in this together feeling like i always say we were trapped in a warehouse in Van Nuys together

but it was you know he made it, Aaron made it into a sound studio so I guess that sounds better but it was like swim or drowned you know just go get in there and we were all very cognizant of being professional I think that

you were. That was really lucky that we everybody else had kind of acted before I was pretty much the only one that had like one or two jobs before. But I like to be a good girl. So I like to give people what is expected of what, you know, I like to do my job. Yeah, yeah.

And I think we all kind of shared that same mentality of being professional and, you know, work is work. And then when we're off stage, it's like a mayhem. But we had- Egos? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, was there hierarchies? Like, you know what I mean? It's Lord of the Fly stuff.

It's almost natural. Yeah, I mean, you know, the call sheet. There's number one, there's number two, there's number three, the number four. What number were you? I was three for the longest time, which I was cool with. Finally, I got to one. At some point, I got to one. The other people left, and then I was number one.

And I was like, hey, this is cool. It didn't mean anything. It just meant, that's how it worked on the way they wrote it. And I thought it meant so much more than that. But I did get a better parking spot. that's nice but those egos did they flare up did they kick up you don't need specifics but you know you gotta keep some secrets but like was it a good fucking gnarly ever sometimes yeah sometimes there was a lot of um uh tension around whose voice was more important

whose role was more important and you just really had to shut that out and because it it was that is not healthy, especially in that kind of ensemble environment where we're all supposed to be equals. But there was pay difference, you know, and as we got older, we really started to realize that. And the people that were getting paid less than, let's say, one, two, or three, it became more of an important issue for them. Yeah. So that's, yeah, things were weird at times, for sure yeah yeah when you go that long it's bound to happen you know we worked it out we're all we all made it you know through relatively unscathed but um i know i know it's crazy it's crazy i mean it's crazy so i knew luke a little bit because he was he was videographer too and he was he was

always coming to golf events with us and we hung out we played golf together a little bit you know and then shannon actually was supposed to be on this podcast like two weeks before she passed. Crazy. Yeah, that came fast. Oh, my gosh, I know, I know. So the last, the last days, you know, the last moments of Nautau 2 and O at the end there,

you know, not the new reboot. But once it was over, was a relief or sadness? I think both. I think we were already, we were all tired. Those of us that were left on the show, we were all tired. And that's a grind. That's a 14 to 16 hour day, five days a week grind where you have no, you come out and

you try to make a life the best you can. But you don't have a lot of energy and you don't have a lot of time to put into what really matters. So I feel like a lot of us were left with like, I know for me I was left with figuring out how all those pieces of my personal puzzle fit together and also realizing. like, oh my God, I just lost 10 years of my development, basically, as a normal human being, because that bubble that we lived in was not normal. Yep.

And so there was a real catching up period for me personally. Interesting, yeah. An adjustment to the real world from 16 to 26. I mean, those are pivotal, pivotal growth years. But I didn't go to college. I lived on my own when I was 17. I bought my first house and had all the adult responsibilities with none of the adult training that go with it. So I, again, thrown into that deep end and was just swimming as hard as I could.

But there was that period where I was like, okay, when my relationship started to fall apart and, you know, I just wasn't, I didn't know who I was. that I had to really say like, okay, because of those 10 years of development that I lost here, the places where I need to take a look at my life and take accountability and figure out how to make up for that lost time. Were you able to do that alone? Or were you able to do you go to therapy? I mean, did you like do some soul searching? Yeah, yeah, a lot of therapy.

Yeah. And a lot of just wonderful people. helping me figure it all out did you have moments of like who am i what am i what am i what am i doing now after all of this i've had i've had those yesterday like what yeah yeah yeah yeah you know i definitely had them more severely the fact that you said that though the fact that you said that you had it yesterday is almost comforting in a sense meaning like it this is a lifelong sort of quest to always sort of redefine or rediscover your identity. Absolutely.

I don't think I could go on without that, like, journey of figuring it out as I go, like figure out who I am in this situation and in this situation. I was talking to somebody not that long ago, and I'm not going to say his name, but he something, somehow the imposter syndrome came up, which I didn't know that much about. And I started talking about on my podcast and learning more about it. and I asked him if he had ever had imposter syndrome and he was like no what is that I said okay well I explained it to him he's like no yeah no I never felt like that and I said wow okay good for you I'm like lucky you and I know Martha Stewart has said the same thing like yeah what is imposter syndrome no I would never have that yeah but for me I'm just too real I'm gonna tell it how it is

And I have definitely struggled with all the voices in my head that hold you back and all the uncertainty, you know, and there's just so many things that happen in our lives that create whatever that voice is inside of us. And I've, I have to battle that all the time. Yeah. And you talk about it on your podcast. Mm-hmm. Isn't it? I'm assuming it's you have great feedback when you're vulnerable and speaking about the things, you know, that a lot of people go through where they would not normally hear them from someone like you. That's the thing though. I am like them. Like I'm not someone like you. Like I and they see like I understand what you're saying. That's how it kind of comes across. But I don't know how to be any other way than to just be. real and who I am. And the minute I step out of being who I am, I completely lose my way. I get caught up

in like all the wrong things. And I always say all the wrong things. Like what does that what does that mean? Inside here. Like inside your head, right. Listening to all the wrong messages. And the noise just gets so much louder inside my head when I'm not being who I am at my. core and it's so so easy to slip into trying to be something else especially in this industry and in this town and being who i am you know like it's very hard to stay authentic and true to yourself sometimes right i know because sometimes you have to put something on to get something or to appeal to certain people like and you learn that delicate dance of and then you just and then you develop that like not giving a fuck yeah yeah do you have a practice to bring you back

to center like a meditation or i love meditating i don't know enough i wish i was better at saying every morning at six i am why is it so hard because how many things do you do a day that are an hour long, whether I'd be working out, whether it'll be reading, whatever it is. But you can't take 10 minutes just to sit down and be quiet. Because it's too, there's so many noises. It's so hard. I know. And we would rather distract ourselves with something than sit down for 10 minutes because that is more tumultuous than actually running 10 miles.

Uh-huh. Or, yeah, or like being the star of the show or being the head of the brand or whatever your job is. I was like, I'd rather do all those things than go too deep. I know, I know. It's so crazy. But you have to. That's the thing. So, yeah, I meditate sometimes.

And I'm always trying to be better about that because I know how good I feel when I do it. And I breathe. I do a box breathing. That's the one thing. I love the box breathing. It's great. And I'm like, oh, shit, things are a little crazy up here. I just do the box breathing.

Yeah. that's four, four, four, four, four, right? I do, like four seconds, like two. I do four, four, and eight. You do four, four and eight. And that's like takes me to a land of unknown. It just puts the space in your brain like, whoa. Yeah, for people who are listening, you don't know what that is.

It's like you take a deep breath in for four seconds. You hold it for four seconds. You do eight, right? So you go. You hold it for four and then you let it out for eight. let it out for eight and then inhale for four exhale yeah hold it for four exhale for eight it's that extra four on the exhale for me that takes you into that place of like it's so deep i don't know yeah so simple but so deep i know that's great um all right talk about your podcast this is what we're here for you're not here for your health it's all the same i know you've been doing it for a while though Well, I've been doing a podcast called OMG where we rewatch the show.

We've been doing that for six seasons now. Got it. But I just started this year doing I Choose Me, the podcast. And it was really important to me to take it into a different space, like a more meaningful space for me personally than like culture or, you know, celebrity interviews. I wanted to talk about real stuff that mattered to me and that could help people. so that has we've all been working together you know that my producers and just getting it to that place where I feel really good about it now and you know we talk about the things that challenge us all and we talk about choices and choices that we've made in our lives and we talk about the art of choosing ourselves you know and really learning that art because that's a skill you know it's so so so easy kind of like what you were saying about. not meditating, it's so, so easy to just put everybody else's needs before yours and take care

of everything else and just do, do, do all the time. But it's really important to come back to yourself and ask yourself questions and get to know yourself on a deeper level. Then you can just show up differently for everybody in life. Yeah, it's true. Do you have guests pertaining to the topics, though, right? Yeah, sometimes we have great guests. I have, I love to, I love having guests on who you wouldn't think have problems, sort of like what you were saying before. Like having Julie Bowen on, and we talk about how she struggles with the voices and the negativity. And I love putting that message out there for people that are listening to it on their morning walk or their drive to work or whatever while they're washing the dishes. Like, we're all the same.

And I love just reinforcing that through the podcast. And I also love teaching people things that I've learned that help me, cope with my life and learning from people that are just doing the same thing. So I love sharing and teaching. I love it too. And I love talking. I'm not a talker. That's the thing. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the

trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything, from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest-ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host.

I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers

were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith. But there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you death

and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation, public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos

as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care.

Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people. in the right hands and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what?

All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted. The Kind Body Story starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed.

Everyone say hello, Ed. Hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club.

I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.

And then he came to my house. So what do you get? get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club. A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorder statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike.

This is in regards to the death of Colleen Slimmer. And she just started going off on me, and I hit her. And I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista.

We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we can. consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life,

on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Are you an extrovert or an introvert? Oh, man, I've been asked this question. I think I'm so, I'm all of it. You know, when I am put in a social setting, I'm ready to roll. I can be the life of the party. And I take energy from those moments. You know what I mean?

At the same time, I don't want to go to the party. So you're both. I get it. Yeah, I am too. If it's like, oh, you got to go. It's like, all right, I'm going to go. And then I am the fucking. Like in life of the party, and by the way, last to leave.

Yeah, it's go time. Last to leave. Right. But I don't want to go in the first place. That's so funny. Yeah. Same, same. You know, and then it's just the, again, for me, it's just, I don't know.

As far as identity goes, like, I don't really know the fuck I am. I'm like, well, what makes me happy? You know, fishing, I love to fish. I have a boat. Nature, yes, okay, but like, who am I? What am I doing? I'm almost 50. You know, I go through the, I have existential crises, like maybe six to eight times a day, you know, just trying to figure out what, who am I. Do I have ADHD? Of course I do. Wait a minute. Do I? Should I go get tested? What does it all really matter? It doesn't. That's the thing.

It's the end of the day, who the fuck cares who you are. Yeah. As long as you're doing and living your life in a way that feels good to you and to the people that you love. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. 100%. you know and and i put a lot of pressure on myself to sort of provide to you know match the standards of my family which is not put upon by them in any way that's my own bullshit or kate's a star my my little brother now is a fucking star my parents are stars and like people would kill for my career at the same point right in the same point i'm like well i'm the black sheep and it's such a fucking ridiculous thing to think what if there is no black sheep though No, I know. It's all bullshit. It's what you put upon yourself. I know. Why do we do that? I don't know. I wouldn't be me without it. But at the same time, when I have those moments, like we talked about as an actor, where that scene just comes together and it's incredible, I have those life moments where I am like, I am on top of the world right now. I don't know why. I'm buzzing. I feel like I can do anything.

thing. And I'm like, I want to live in that space all the time. I can't. Have you ever told yourself that you love? Have you ever said, have you ever looked in the mirror and said, I love you? No. No, I should. But I woke up today. I know it sounds stupid. No, no, no. No, self-love, self-worth. I mean, again, I told you when to the Hoffman Institute. Like, that is what it is about. It's about self-love, self-worth, which I have been lacking all of my life. you know so to look at myself in the mirror and to actually feel that and say it honestly I'd probably use humor to deflect those true emotions you know but I do wake up I'm like it's going to be a great fucking day today you know what I mean I try to create that energy

do you know Dr. Ayman no you don't know Dr. Daniel Ayman that's one of his things is wake up and say today is going to be a great day really yeah I try it and I feel a little weird doing it No, I know. I just sit up in bed. I'm like, it's me a great day, you know, and I don't do it earnestly. You know what I'm saying? I do it with a little fervor with a little, it's going to be a great fucking day to us. Go get it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's okay. However, however you have to do it. But that whole like looking in the mirror and saying, I love you thing, as stupid as it sounds, when you can connect with the person in the mirror, that's, and love that person no matter what. Yeah. that's where you find a good amount of peace that is so crucial it's very simple statement to love that person no matter what um because you're really emotional but you have to have compassion for yourself you know what i mean we we are compassionate have empathy for other people

i do um but we sometimes don't forgive ourselves and have compassion for the darkness in us you know when I think that we do you go back to that little boy inside of you and if I if I am struggling I have to think back to like that little girl inside of me that at some point things changed and she got scared for whatever reason or was told she wasn't good enough or people didn't like her whatever it is like if you go back and you nurture that little because you have kids you know what it's like to love somebody unconditionally and you know what it's like to nurture somebody when they're at their lowest, like you said with your son, you worked with them. If you can think of like you as that little, as a person inside of you, then you can connect with that. Yes. Oh, I've done that. It's really good.

I've done that, especially when you can go into sort of a, almost a self-guided meditation where you can take yourself back to a time that you remember when you are of that age, where that sort of unconscious fear is just being, you know, just injected into you because of your childhood circumstances, and then, you know, able to sort of put a evolved adult spin on it in a way. Actually, I did a thing at therapy. I was like, please don't make me fucking do this. You know, my therapist name was Jan at the time. I have a drunk guy now.

But he's like, no, we got to do it. I'm like, I don't want to do it. It was like this, me talking to my younger self. Oh, it was awful. It was awful. And I had to sit. He had a catty corn, he had a couch that sort of eld. and I had to move back and forth.

Oh, okay, role playing. I liked this. Oh, I role played with myself. And I was like, please don't make me do this. Like, I can't. Like, I feel like an idiot. Even those me and you in the room with no camera, I'm like, I just feel like a fucking fool where I had to sit there and being like, hi. And then I had to go as an adult and speak to my younger self and tell him it's going to be okay.

Yeah, I can't imagine that. So I'm like, I don't feel good. Like, I'm so scared. And then I switch chairs. I'm like, you're going to be okay, Oliver. I'm like, holy. I love it that you actually acted it out with, like, movement. No, I did.

And I will say that it didn't work. This is not something you should try at home. It's not going to work. Okay, okay. Then just do this. Just next time you catch your reflection in anything, a mirror, a spoon, whatever it is, to say, hey, I love you. Yeah.

No, I do. I'm going to try it. Let me know how it works out. Instead of passing a mirror and being like, Jesus, dude. you're old what's happening to you look at you look at you oh god need to buy a bra oh gosh i know well this was fun this is this is a good conversation i appreciate it no problem i love a good talk yeah um well i'm gonna check out your i'm gonna check out your your show that sounds great i love that stuff come on it we'll talk some more oh yes

hey by the way you know if you want me on i'm i'm down I love talking about this stuff. And I'm very open and, you know, sort of unafraid to talk about the things that go on in my crazy life. I'm pretty unfiltered. I love that. That's the best. I don't talk about, you know.

I just had Samuel T. Herring on recently. He's the lead man from Future Islands, the band. And he's just this crazy performer and he's so deep. Like, his lyrics are so like, whoa, what are you talking about? It was just so interesting to get inside of his head. and that's one of the things I love about it the most. Oh, yeah. Learning how other people cope and deal.

Yes, yes. And then the byproduct of sort of all of this is you're actually helping people without even knowing it, you know. Yeah, feels good. Because we all, I think we all know that we're not alone, but sometimes you just feel alone until you hear someone else, you know, just connect with exactly what you're feeling. And then you're like, oh,

shit like it yeah yeah no it's weird so well i'm so glad that you're into that so talk to me about the women's event on january 11th oh you're so sweet yes yes this is exciting because um this is all part of my development this is all part of me figuring out that i'm i can do this you know and and it's in doing things like this where you share with other people that we all benefit from it So in some way. So this is a women's event that I didn't think I could do something like this on my own. But I'm putting something together. It's January 11th.

I have big plans for it. I want to take it to different cities. We're starting in L.A. And it's just a rather small gathering of women, inspiring one another, sharing with one another, being vulnerable with each other. Having conversations like we just had. And we're going to have panelists from women from different. different walks of life and there will be medical discussions, a lot of talk about menopause, a lot about, you know, our bodies as we age and this next chapter in our lives that we're

all stepping into. And so this is what we're going to be doing. It's like a little I choose me goop situation. I love that. It's inspiring. Do you know why? Because not to make this about me but that would be great for to do for men too you got to do it you should I'm serious because you know I'm a pretty sensitive person you know generally and I love feelings and men have these fucking feelings they all do but most guys are not going to admit that no what a cool idea to do something like that for men to be able to come and hang and talk and feel you know where it's okay to sort of say things that they may feel uncomfortable, you know? And here's the other thing that just pops into my head.

How great would it be for men to be able to watch witness be a voyeur into what you are doing for women? Because then we get to understand each other a little bit more. You know what I mean? Like wouldn't it be great for, you know, if you had to sit men watching, you know, watch this video on your women's form. to sort of understand how women think. And on the flip side of that, women watching men just understand how we think.

Right, because it is different. I mean, we're built differently. I think it would be, I think you should look into putting something together. You might have inspired me a little bit because I've been doing the Drew Barrymore show. I've done two of them. I'm going to do a few more, actually, where she's bringing me on to, you know, talk about relationships and feelings and all of these things. things from a straight male perspective. I love that.

Drew's always like, I'm surrounded by gay men. Like, I need like a straight dude to come on to just talk about what it's like to sort of be in a relationship, to be a son, to be a husband, to be all of these things. And it's been amazing. It's been really, really fun. It's opening up something for you. I think that's exciting. Yeah.

But, yeah, I mean, like, we're all in the same boat, especially around our ages. You know, I'm a little bit older than you. Even 10 years either way, we're all sort of like discovering this new version of ourselves and where our life is taking us and figuring it all out. But we're figuring it out now with such so much more openness and so much more of a place of understanding and wanting to love and understand ourselves so that we can nurture ourselves through this life because we've seen what it's like to just be flying through it and not knowing and not being connected with who we are, what we're dealing with, and not sharing that

with other people, not being vulnerable about it. And it doesn't feel great. Like that, all that did not feel great doing all that. Learning all this shit that got me to hear, it didn't really feel that good. So I'm interested in what's next. And this whole movement of supporting one another as women, I never experienced that in the industry that I was in. So it's something that I'm longing for and I just feel like other women are longing for it too and that's why I'm doing this is fun great good for you this is awesome maybe I'll sneak in I have strong feminine energy so you know okay well thank you so much this has been really really uh it's been fun it's been great a great chat I love when I get into these sort of deeper conversations about all this stuff

you know it's good me too me too yeah it's fun and then let me know I'm down to come on your show if you if you need someone to cry or you know a moat i love it i'll call you yeah call me all right cool thank you good talking all right i'll see you later best happy holidays happy holidays oh god fun always fun i say the same shit every time it's always fun but i like her podcast i want to i want to listen to it i like that idea too you know interesting deep good conversation I like when it sort of takes those left turns into something unexpected. Anyway, I need to eat food. I'm intermittent fasting again because I'm growing titties.

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