Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Sam Asghari: Traitor or Faithful?

Episode Date: January 27, 2025

Britney Spears' ex, Sam Asghari has no regrets. Despite his high-profile marriage, a public divorce, and what he calls 'the weirdest spiral' he's ever seen, Sam still feels like he's living the American Dream. He shares his real thoughts on Britney's former conservatorship, and what he considers the biggest career risk of all!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Revellerie. That's good. Al Rodson here, holy shit. Lots to talk about. Been a minute since I've actually recorded a fresh podcast. As everyone knows, we've been dealing with a lot of shit here in Los Angeles.

Not going to get into all. out right now I will in a bit of a rant that you will hear in this new season of sibling revelry adding a few little bells and whistles to the game

but just touching on it fucking devastation that's where I grew up it's gone and it's crazy everyone's okay though that's the good part but we'll get into all it in a bit. Right now we have Sam Escari waiting.

In the waiting room, he did a show Traders, which I'm eager to see. Alan Cummings is the host. He looks very creepy. And interested in his life where he came from me. It's a good story. Let's bring him on. Hey, what's up, man? How you doing, man?

This is the first show that I've recorded. uh since the fires so where where are you at are you in l.a so right across the street is pretty much palestate oh really yeah and i don't know how i didn't evacuate and i don't know what happened and we just didn't even lose power it was just the street that was not affected by anything everybody else evacuated i still see some uh coast guard military cars across the street so that's crazy I mean

I mean that's kind of how it works obviously this has just it's been insanely devastating it's where I grew up so my family's all right houses were all right except for my brother my brother's Boston's house went

but the amount of people that I know whose houses have earned it's like just unfathomable it's unbelievable but then there's this there's a few you know that are still

miraculously standing yeah very crazy I think they let some of the palestate people back in yeah to the neighborhood to check out their home but they're not allowed to stay there but I think if you're in LA you at least know one person that was affected by the fire oh yeah oh my gosh it's been not the videos from all the animals are are insane I mean I feel really bad for people but I think humans we can help ourselves and eventually you know work but animals are just i saw the video of the horse going back and getting other horses you know so that was just it was just a weird time it was that i know it was crazy you didn't

evacuate oh i didn't yeah i didn't i don't know how because everyone around baler side is evacuated palestate side was evacuated the whole 405 was closed for a few days and i don't know i think I heard there might be more winds coming down this way. Today, tomorrow. Yeah. I know. It's nutty. Well, give me your story, buddy.

I mean, that's an interesting one, right? You came for Iran. How old were you when you came here? You know, give me the rundown. I think it was the perfect age. I was 12. And, you know, now I just look back and see I lived half of my life in a country that was completely the opposite of America and I lived the other half here. So I was 12 years old

and I moved here. I was in seventh grade and it was just the best thing that ever happened to me in life. When you're from a country like Iran and I really appreciated the culture, but when I moved here, I really wanted to focus on fitting in in America. I mean, I did everything to try to fit in as soon as possible. I tried baseball, which I sucked at. I'm an American sport. I was like, okay, I can't do this. Then I tried drinking Gatorade every single morning. We thought that was like the most American thing you can do.

You try to fit in. And that was okay. I almost got diabetes from that. And then I played American football. I did all the things to fit in because when you're coming from a country like that, you look at America as this land of opportunity, you know. What about the language? I mean, obviously you didn't know the language or did you?

You know, I didn't, I didn't, you know, I went to English classes, but with me, classes, it's just every time I sit down in a class, my brain just goes out the window. Yeah. You know, so I didn't really pay attention to my English classes. I mean, I knew words like pencils and all that, but when I came here, I remember the first week I was in school. I was out in Camry or California that way. That's where I went to middle school. And I went to class, and I was so enthusiastic about America. I was like, wow, everybody's going to be nice to me.

Everybody's going to welcome me. And my dad always told me, oh, they love, like, you know, everybody and everything's fine. So I went to middle school, and I was late to class. I was late to class. It was this history class. So I sat in the back of the classroom where the American flag is. You know, you've got the American flag, and you sit down and you pick your own seats. You don't have assigned seats in public schools.

So I sit down and everybody stands up. They turn around and they start singing something. You know, they start saying, I pledge allegiance to the flag. And at that time, I didn't know what it was. And all I remember was my dad saying, they're going to love you. They're going to, you know, they love immigrants and they love new. So I was like, wow, they're welcoming me. They know I'm new.

you thought it was all for you I thought it was for me so I got up and I saluted and it was just all the kids were like what the fuck is this guy doing? Taking bows like thank you guys thank you yeah so you know I had this

I had this positive mindset the language was nothing I learned it right away I mean I was in the age where it's usually easier you know did you experience at 12 bullying or discrimination you know you're new you don't speak the language kids are fucking assholes for the most part you know you know what

i'm sure there was but i think the mind i'm not going to go into the victim mindset and all that i think that has to do with you so if somebody does make fun of you or bully you you can either i mean i came from a country where pretty much you know my 12 years was like 40 years in another country the experience that you go through you know it's not the same saying, you know, kids get to run around the streets without parents. It's a different culture, obviously. But when I came here, I didn't look at it as bull. I didn't know what bullying is.

Like, that's all they did back home. So I don't know what bullying is. It's a great point, you know. Not to diminish anything from, you know, kids who are bullied, but it's nothing new. I mean, obviously online, you know, digital bullying and stuff like that. It's almost worse than, you know, it's not. and then it is in person, you know, and in person is part of being on the school yard, too.

You know what I mean? And I imagine where you grew up, you're looking at America like this is bullying. Like, this is, uh, yeah, it's nothing. But, you know, it's subjective. For me, um, it might be different than somebody else.

Obviously, if I, I, I did stand up for bullies, even in America and things like that. But back home coming to this country was just such a blessing that. that everything was a privilege. Other parents tried to, you know, it's different. But here, I looked at it as this, wow, this is such a great opportunity and like everybody bullied us.

At some point, they used to call it at the time, this is in 06, so Borat was out with Sasha Brandon. And I sent him a message and I told him and he sent me back an emoji. I don't know what that means. But I said, dude, like you helped me survive. and the reason why you helped me survive is because people used to love that borat and we used to make those you know like they're nice like all that stuff all the white kids were like popular kids like coming out with us and you know we'll make fun of you at the time we thought we were popular me and my best friend were both from you on but but we weren't popular they just wanted to clown us and make fun of us but i remember big skin right i mean it didn't It's thick skin, ignorance is a blessing, whatever they say. I didn't.

Luckily, I didn't. I was so blessed to be here. You're siblings, right? I have three sisters, yes. You do. You're all sisters. And where do you stand in the pecking order? So I'm the youngest one, and the next one after me is eight years, and then they're

back to back to back. In other words, my dad had, you know, my dad wanted a son. and I think he was he's a flirty type so God give him three girls to teach him a lesson So you have three older sisters Yes yes

Wow wow And so why did you emigrate Over to the United States What was it? Was he wanted a better life for his kids You know how did that work My dad was here in the U.S. I think since 98. I was here with him

and me and my mom because it's just such a hard process to get a visa anywhere and it's like almost as you need to win the lottery to come to the US. There's literally a lottery system to come to the US

and my dad and I and my mom were able to come but then we got three, you know, I have three sisters. They have three little girls back home that they can't just you know, brain because of the process. So it took about 10 years just for them to get an appointment to the immigration. Wow. And so I had to end up going back. And I was four years old. So I ended up

going back and I wanted to be with them. And then after a few years, it was just the right time. And we got an appointment. And we went out to Istanbul and Turkey. And we got our visa. I got my visa first because I was under the age of 18 and if you're 18 and over you have to do an FBI check. They did an FBI check, but it took another six years just for that FBI check to become clear for them. So I moved here first and they came after six years. Wow. And they just wanted to try to give you guys a better life. Is that was that the idea? That was that the idea. Like from Iran, every time you look at America, people don't understand a lot of my, you know, white friends or American friends.

They don't, they look at Iran as the government. The government is completely different than the people of Iran. The people of Iran love America. They love America. This is their destination. This is like their ticket to the chocolate factory. That's how it is. And for us was just better opportunities.

Like this is, if you put your mind into anything in America, whatever you want to become, you can. And the American dream is. there for those seven people so it was literally just opportunity better life freedom women freedom yeah it's ridiculous to be talking about this but no no it's it's real i mean it's it's it's not ridiculous at all you and i are talk about that for a second i mean how does that how does that even work i mean are you been able to you know it's just we as human beings are sexual human beings. We have feelings that are like obviously. It's how we've procreated and created the human race. Yeah. Does that all have to get pretty repressed? Yes. I mean, you and I are

both very familiar with the entertainment industry. Imagine an entertainment industry where women are not allowed to sing in public. So that's what's happening there. And you take it back 30 years ago, women were so inspiring in that country, and they were allowed to sing, and they took that away. So it's just sad. So us, we have three girls in our families, and we have to get up and go. I mean, my sisters now, thank to, I mean, they were always achieving, you know, academic success. They were super smart.

Unlike me, the black sheep in the family, I am. in the bad way, black sheep in a bad way. I didn't go, I didn't do good in school, nor will I ever. I can't even imagine three, 10, 15 pages without sleeping. But they have, one of them is it just became a doctor. The other one is a forensic scientist, and my youngest sister has her medical spouse. These things are only achievable in the U.S. You know, not that women can't do anything now over there, but, you know, they have whatever they want to achieve here, it's possible.

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changed it so much that people don't even want to listen to it you know if you say ridiculous things and you said a prophet said it or God said it, then makes you not have faith in faith. So people don't really, not religious for me, nothing has ever proven itself to me than good things and good karma or whatever universe or whatever the case is. When you do something unintentionally that you don't tell anyone or you don't post about it, You know, you always get paid back instantly. So that's, I don't know what you want to call it, but to me, if I do good in life and I don't, you know, I don't hurt anybody. I don't do anything bad.

I don't, I go through life, not in a perfect way. Of course, us humans, we're not perfect. But if we do good and we never hurt anybody and when we get to the heaven gates, whether if it's Jesus or Muhammad or whoever it is they're going to let you in they're not going to be like oh you were a bad person because you didn't pray at a 45 degree angle respect to our religions and I love our religions

I think we learn so much from it but if we don't do anything bad I'm not a religious person at all but you weren't pressured in any way by your family no not my family but by people when you live there you go to school it's a religious school or it's you have to, you know, you have to, you have to kind of go, you know, it's forced religion there.

I have some friends that are here that are Baha'is or Jewish and they weren't able to, you know, go to the same schools and stuff. Yeah. And then so you're here, you're living dream of being in America. And then how did this, how did it happen? You wanted to be a model, you wanted to be an actor. I mean, when did entertainment come into your world? Go from there and sort of, you know, how did that all sort of went down yeah i mean obviously you're a handsome dude where you're like shit like i'm 17 and i look fucking good like i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna at 17 years old at 17 years old i didn't look good i didn't look bad but i didn't look good i was 310 i was playing football i was in a football shape american football shape and i was playing football at the time

and right when i went to college that's when things weren't i know like at no one I'm playing two years of college football at a junior college out in California, and I knew my time was over, and I knew that I had to, you know, I was working multiple jobs, and I wanted to be in entertainment, and that takes me back to high school, where I was in theater and arts and drama, and same with college, so that was just always... Are you going to see me? Oh, no, no, no, God, I was in West Lake High School. You're a West Lake, okay. Yes, yes. No, see me, no, no, no. No.

No, but I was in Westlick High School and I went to Moorpark College because that was the closest college to me. And after that, it was just time for me to part ways and start working and start to, I was always supporting myself throughout high school. But I had to really focus on that because now adulthood is right around the corner. And that's when I started getting into. possibly looking into getting an acting agent and really start acting professionally. So I got an acting agent and I started, you know, auditioning only for commercials and that went really well. Then did a, I think I went in for a commercial and somebody offered something to me, which

was a music video and it was that group, FEPHarmony Group. You remember? They had a group and it was like a construction video and it was like, you know, it was like, You know, people were, came out and it went very viral. People love this song. And even to now, I get all these videos from me doing the jackhammer. The American dream, man. That's awesome.

I didn't see it. You were probably shirts. I was like, yeah, yeah, like that. It was just, it was just this like, you know, control to a porn. Yeah. And people loved it. People love the cosmopolitan. an article of it and that was my first mainstream thing which was like a you know and you get

all these followers on instagram then at that time i was like okay it's time to be a serious actor let's no longer do um music videos because you know music nobody really watches music videos and nobody commercials fun but the respect is not elite acting um it's a lot of money people make a lot more money on commercial than they do on TV and film sometimes but um it was not respected and i wanted to go to the next level so i said i'm no longer going to do any more music videos and none of that stuff no more modeling no more um commercials then one day i get a call from agent saying are you available they want you for a music video it's an a list music video but we don't know who we don't know how and I was like okay I probably

not you know most likely not then a friend of mine was doing makeup and hair and said oh you know my friend Colin Collin Telly was the director is really amazing director for music videos and feature films now and he said my friend's doing it and they want to cast you you should come because I'm working in it and you know we'll make some good friends and you should just do it so I So I said, okay, and I called my agent and said, is that still available? They're like, yes, they reached out again. And I go, okay, cool.

And I go into the music video and it's just another job. And then there's seven years worth of relationship that comes from the music video and a marriage and a lot of experiences and a lot of experiences, which I like to call it a crash course. in Hollywood, which was great. Yeah. You tell you learned from everything. I mean, obviously, how old are you now? I'm 30 now. You're 30, so you're getting married young, you know?

Yeah. You're getting married young, you're taking a chance, you're in love, and sometimes shit doesn't work out. Yeah. You know, Cade? Yes. Okay. So I know Brittany a little bit, and I know Cade very well.

Cade was at my, he's crazy, and I love him. But he was at my New Year's Eve party this year in Colorado. Yeah. But what was that whirlwind like? I mean, you know, again, a 12-year-old kid from Iran coming to the States, all of a sudden, bang. It's like you're thrust into this sort of spotlight. And is it like, is this what the fuck I want? Or was there something alluring to it as well?

Because we all like to be recognized. You know what I mean? I don't mind it when people come up to me and like the things that I've done or have some recognition. It feels good. But what was that like for you? I mean, because that's big time shit. It's like,

holy fuck, bang. So here's the thing. I never looked at it as a big time thing. The reason why the spotlight and, you know, you have a public relationship and people start even paying attention. Even if you're Travis Kelsey,

you're in the NFL, you're the best guy then in the league. they still associate you with pop culture. Culture is the biggest thing in the world. And better yet to be associated with, you know, an icon, someone that's labeled as princess of pop. So for that, I wasn't too, you know, it didn't really mess up my mind.

The reason why I say that is because I think coming to America was the best thing and the biggest thing that ever happened. And when you live in a different country, you kind of sort of have an experience a wider, you know, experience and you're more grounded and you're more, you know, you more understand what happens to you. So I think me just be, you know, being from a different country and learning all those experiences and coming to this country was such a big change that it made everything else become. easier. And I figure, I think if you do everything, if you follow everything with honor and respect and you think twice before you do anything, nothing could ever go wrong and nothing could ever be a bad thing. If it doesn't work out, if things end and and things happen that, you know, you were not wanting to happen. You just have to sort of take a moment and

appreciated that it ever even happened then sit there and dwell and be sad it's such a big part of your life too I mean think about that you know I it's someone I thought actually on this show I was talking to a guest and you know they asked about regrets that I've talked about very personal things on this show and you know some bad things that I'd done in my life and I was like I don't have fucking regrets you know because I don't know who I would be without the culmination of my experiences. So if I was to take away and cherry pick these things that I don't like about me or a few things that I kind of was fucked up with or I wasn't in my right mind or I wasn't doing the right thing, if I was to just take those away, then I'm not sure

you're, I'm taking pieces of myself away. I take the character building moments, hopefully. You know, so I don't have regrets. But then, of course, you know, press picks it up. And it's like Oliver Hudson has no regrets for anything he's ever done. It's like, okay. You know, so, you know, as long as you don't kill anyone, it happens. It's life, you know, and you take so much from those experiences, you know what I'm saying? And I'm sure you have. Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, I've always looked at life as a blessing. I didn't look at it as this big thing for my, because my career is always completely different my personal life even though it might be a you know it might be a ridiculous thing to say because it things happened the way it happened because of my career I was on an acting job I was already acting and I was already going into a you know and I met a co-worker that happened to be you know the princess of pop and I and you know we got we sort of clicked and we sort of Did she, how was that, what was the meeting like? Did she, I mean, she approached you, or do you have the balls to approach her?

You know what? I mean, at that time, I was young, so I wasn't, you know, I wasn't accepted of ever getting to know someone that was in pop culture. I thought it was not manly, so, you know, when you're young, you think, like, oh, just rap music and stuff like that, so I didn't. really, I never even listen to pop music up until then, pop culture music and things like that. So I didn't, I wasn't really, of course I know who she was and things like that, but when I go into a job, I go in as a professional, even if it's a music video. And even now, if I go into

a job, like I did a, if I do a TV series that I like, that only have a few moments in, I'm going to go in as if I'm, you know, I'm going to be on time. I'm going to be excited. Yeah. I'm going to try to sleep. I'm going to be nervous. It's like a dream to me. So I'm always going to, no matter what the job is, I will always go into it the same way. And that's what happened. And I was there. I was very relaxed. It was a music video. It was a two-day music video. It was fun. It was at a house and I think on cold water in Beverly Hills. Everything was going right and everything was going great and we talked and we figured we would we were both single and we figured we would grab some sushi um and then we grabbed some sushi on los anga at this restaurant called koi

and everything was going really well until uh one day i started learning about what the conservatorship is and things like that that's when i was like wait a minute like i thought i'm in america what do you mean what do you mean somebody doesn't have you know their basic economy over their own life right what do you mean someone over the age of 18 needs permission from their parents and all this ridiculous thing you know i'm very new to this and everybody is even it's just it's such a ridiculous thing in this country to have to deal with and that was by far the most i'm not to say difficult because i don't think anything's difficult that was the weirdest thing to deal with not which is really strange to say when in hollywood and in entertainment because people will tell

you it's usually um media fans the money and everything else that's going to be hard that to deal with but one of the most important one of the hardest things i think to deal with when you do, you know, when you go into entertainment is your parents and the people around you and everything that happens and everybody that comes into your life that's taken advantage that damage that damage you because those are the people that are closest to you. It's never the fans. There's never the media. You know, I always celebrities when they're mad at TMZ and, you know, they're mad at all these people.

There are the reasons why you're, you know, popular and famous is the media. and the fans and all that, they will never hurt you. Usually the people that are around you, the people that you allow into your circle, you kind of are vulnerable to them. And they take an advantage because they think, you know, you owe something to them or something, which is so ridiculous.

That was the most difficult and weird spiral thing that I've witnessed in my life ever. Mm-hmm. How do you handle that? I mean, you know, with someone that you love watching this happen, you know, and wanting to protect and wanting to sort of fight for? Well, first, you have to be in position to say anything, you know, or to do anything because if you're not, you know, if you're sort of just a boyfriend or you're sort of just there and the timing is not right, you know, people can sort of force you out or get you out of the situation if they don't. like you're around, so you have to be really careful how you deal with this type of thing. So, you know, I think the best thing you can do is to provide support in that moment. And that's what I did. I provided as much as I could support and be there and, you know, provide information that might be helpful,

provide resources that might be helpful and really try to understand why this even happened, why the conservatorship even happened to begin with. and I was just this was my experience in life that I had to go through very gently because if you do anything wrong you say the wrong thing

yeah you know and luckily my experience from another country that I had to deal with this type of thing come into place and it's just it was a very difficult time I think you know

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And she's fucking awesome. Those girls, Brea and Nikki, are just so rad. I love them so much. I got to talk to her a little bit about it. But I know it's airing, so we can't talk about too much, but give me some of the experience of what this thing was. She told me a little bit about it, how crazy it was,

and how real it is. You know what I mean? Like, the shit is, it's, I know when we watch TV and we watch reality TV on scripted television, you know, it's like, oh, well, they're going to set this up, and it's going to be scripted. And of course, there has to be some structure to it.

But apparently it was like, no, it's pretty gnarly. Yeah, I mean, the only thing I know from a set and a project is scripted stuff. And things that are not reality whatsoever unless you decide to, you know, improv. Improv is the closest thing I get seen from unscripted. So I have no idea what's going to happen. I don't even know. I don't know what a housewife is. I know what a housewife is

I don't know what a housewife is I don't even know what summer house is or I don't know any survivor I have no idea what it is so I go into this thing fresh off the boat I don't know anything and it was such a cool experience and it was just so

cool to get to know people I went in there not wanting to I didn't obviously go in there wanting to win everything I just wanted to go and check it out and not that they're going to I just you know people told me

don't don't you talk with the housewives because they will eat you alive and you're going to be the you know they're going to because of media and all this when you separate somebody has to be the bad guy and the media and I don't know

what the bad guy is supposed to be but they only know you for your relationship so they're going to judge you So, you know, the first three episodes, which is already out, I'm in it and I'm helping out in the missions and doing the physical stuff and not really trying to get involved because I know that people are going to judge me or I was just so scared. People were going to judge me. And then I'm there. And then I see this guy that's like sweating and like doing all these weird things. And automatically he was the bad guy.

So I was like, okay, this is cool. you were able to pull back enough to where you weren't labeled the bad guy yeah and you know the first episodes i take a lot of showers um you know i take if they have it on camera there's it's like an old spice commercial yeah yeah yeah so i did smell good at least i don't stay much i don't get involved much but the leading episodes i do get involved it gets more entertaining and i'm excited to see how it's edited yeah no that's the other thing dude you are you are at the mercy of the system you can be one thing in real life and they can edit you to where you're like wait a minute yeah wait a way whoa wait a second here but that's just kind of what you're signing off on you know

you know what i think this might have been the craziest thing i've done in my in my career because of exactly it's a risk it's a risk that you have to take is a lot of of people coming into this ready to go like guns like Bob the drag queen uh i don't by the way i walk in there i know nobody i just know nicky the reason why i know nicky is because the first fitness shoot i did i have a little feature in her cover it's her and her sister and i was like wow yeah this is what so i only knew nicky but everybody else i had no idea who i thought uh the guy was the bad guy from Toy Story. You know, the

antagonism, Toy Story. I mean, you know, that was the only thing. And, but, you know, I love getting to know people. I think even if they're from reality and they have some sort of a personality is still, they're still a human being.

And I love to get to know people. I love for them to get to know me because then they'll be really surprised of, you know, the time. well yeah because here's the thing like we you know this whole business and even aside from this business is just all based on perception you know and you know no one knows your story really i mean i mean i do now and people you have told and whatever outlets you've sort of told your story too about growing up and iran being 12 years old coming to the states how it all went down six

years of waiting processes for your entire family to get here you know what you went through as a kid and all that everyone all the only thing anyone knows is the perception of you and brittany and how that all went down and then there is an opinion that is formed that is probably incorrect where it's like who's this hot dude who is now using this pop star to sort of advance and further his career which is bullshit but you can't control what people are thinking and saying yeah And that just snowballs and snowballs. So now that's who you are. And now it's your job, and you would never take away that experience,

but it's your job to sort of say, hey, you know what, this isn't who I am. And now I can use my platform because you have developed somewhat of a platform, which is great, to jump off and be you. You know, hey, this is me, you know. And so I would imagine that that sticks in the back of your head as well, you know, because no one likes to be misrepresented

especially with people who don't really fucking know you at the same time the healthiest attitude is to say hey you know what fuck off I don't care what you think because I know who I am which is in my opinion

much easier said than done for me because you care what people think you know of course if I could get to that place where I truly didn't care what people thought then I would be a better performer I would be a better actor I would just be just better just generally because sometimes when we care so much or when we care it can it can make you

small and freeze you up because you don't want to do anything bad sure so how much are you fighting that or do you care you know and especially in traders are you like well i'm gonna i'm fucking i'm not i'm not just fucking brittany's ex dude like i'm a real person and i'm a good man and i want the world to know that you know what i think the best way to deal with Hollywood or perceptions and things like that is always not to deal with it at all. I do think it's easier to be yourself. It's easier said than done. You said it.

But it's the best thing you can do sometimes. The best thing you can do is to be yourself as long as you're a good person. I mean, you can't be yourself if you're hurting others. you've got to change because then you're you're hurting other people which is not okay but if you're if you're being yourself and coming into this country man i i truly really thought i was here with the mindset that this is this is a gift to me you know and now i owe everything that i have to this country so for me the biggest dream is to be a title Perry to be an athlete, to be someone like Adam Sandler, these guys are providing jobs and

they're giving back to the industry, to the community, they're inspiring people. That's the biggest job for them, but that's the biggest dream for me. It's not just to come here and take, and take an advantage of someone that's been taking advantage by every single person in the world. What I'm going to do is I'm going to do the opposite of that. Then we got to roll, but what what do you think the big what do you think is the biggest misconception of you i think and and and you were to clear that up and be able to have a microphone a megaphone of the world saying this is the biggest fucking misconception of me you know the biggest misconception is that it's just the opposite the perception is the opposite of exactly who i am and you know it has

to do with looks it has to do with appearance it has to do with media it has to do with everything but once you get to know me it's it's completely different so i'm going to continue you know being myself and continue uh living my life the way i do well good dude well i'm going to watch traders it looks very compelling you know it's interesting alan cummings i watched the trailer and he looks like creepy i'm like he's he's the best part of it it's kind of like quick games uh meet mafia yeah that game that yeah it's so it's such a a cool, interesting thing. You should definitely

watch it. I'm going to check it out. Anything else you're promoting? Are you, you know, you got, are you doing stuff? I mean, it's so difficult right now. So here's modeling agent. Oh, my.

What are dope? Is that a dover? This is dopey. Yeah. She should be like this. No, I know. They didn't cut her ears good. That's nice. I have a German short hair pointer. Yes. That's our cousins, actually. oh yes my nephew rider has adobe yeah my daughter wants one my daughter's like i want a boberman okay i don't know i don't maybe you should i mean she's strong so i don't know if she's gonna i like i like her with the with the

with the with the floppy ear she's the sweetest and her you know talking about perceptions yeah that's way i have this dog because dobermans they they think they're like tough dogs and they're but they're the sweetest dogs in the world she sleeps on my head is starting to be annoying but the reason why I have her ears down is because

first is cruel to cut their ears and two she loses her like cuteness I think oh my mom yes of course Brocco well funny because the German

he's nine come here come up Come on. Oh. That's a beautiful dog. Yeah, he's a bird dog. But, you know, so they have the similar faces.

Yeah, they're hunters. Yeah, they're hunters. Wow. Yeah, they got similar. Yeah, almost the same exact eyes and everything. No, I know, I know. And he's, oh my God, he's so attached to me. It's like airy.

Yes. And he's so smart, too. Yeah, they're the best, man. And I have an English, I have an English bulldog as well. So I have like the dumbest dog of all breeds, and then I have one of the smart ones. It's really funny together, too. Yes.

All right, buddy. Well, thank you for taking the time, and I wish you the best of luck. And I loved hearing your story. I really do. Thank you so much. Thank you for the opportunity, man. Yeah, of course, brother. And good luck with everything.

I'm going to check you out. And then check out traders. I want to, you know, it sounds fun as hell. It's super and samming. Cool, brother. Thank you. Take it easy, bye. Getting a good look at me. Swollen and gross.

Yeah, it's all bad. I'm not sure. I'm not sure we could. I think if we do a post for this video, it just, you know, for Instagram, it's just got to maybe be like, you know, an emoji over my face. So we don't get to see how bucked up I look right now. Anyway, yeah, it's interesting. You know, I mean, you hear that Sam's coming on, and, you know, I'm not going to lie.

I mean, I have the same perception. It's sort of like, okay, you know, this is Britney Spears is dude. But, you know, you don't know the dude's story. He seems like a pretty good fucking guy, you know. I mean, I wasn't going to get into the whole thing. I don't have enough time. We need, like, 18 podcasts to do that. But what a nice deal.

Handsome boy, dude, shit. You know, handsome man. Watch Traders. Thanks, Sam, for coming on. Oliver Hudson. Out and do not, you're not going to see my face on this episode. Because I look like a, I look like, my face looks like a, looks like a vagina after natural birth.

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