Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - She's A Little Bit Country with Marie Osmond
Episode Date: March 11, 2024Marie Osmond turned her talent into sibling revelry at a young age when she partnered with brother Donny to create the singing duo 'The Osmonds.' Growing up with eight brothers and a Hollywood spotli...ght shining bright, Marie is full of fun stories and she's sharing them with us. Find out who she dated from another popular singing group, why she stayed in an unhappy marriage for so long, and how she reconnected with the love of her life! Plus, is retirement in the cards for a girl who has been singing since she was three? Or does Marie still have a 'high note' she wants to hit?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi, I'm Kate Hudson.
And my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
And what it's like to be siblings.
We are a sibling rivalry.
No, no.
Sibling rivalry.
Don't do that with your mouth.
Sibling, revelry.
That's good.
Ollie, I feel like I'm going to really relate to this woman
because he grew up with eight brothers.
Yes.
And I grew up with three.
I mean, a little bit different.
But I know what it's like to be the only girl
with a bunch of boys and in show business.
Marie, Osmond.
Yes.
What is their famous song?
It takes two.
Oh, right.
It takes two to make a thing go, right?
No.
Their life is so fascinating.
Yes.
And when you think about them being child performers,
Vegas teenage years for her,
I mean, her story is wild.
Imagine the people,
the iconic celebrities
that they probably were hanging around.
Oh, we're going to talk about all of those things.
But yes.
And also, growing up in public eye,
during that time and um i just i and and she does so much she's oh i know you know she has
eight kids of her own she does a million different things she's quite the renaissance woman yeah um
she looks fabulous so i'm also happy to get her alone and not with the brothers because because
it it's a different perspective when you have it's true you know and then maybe next time we'll
We'll do Donnie.
Well, we'll do a couple of the bros or something.
All right.
Let her in.
Hello?
You look beautiful.
Oh, you look so great.
Oh, you're so nice.
I think this is so cool that you both are doing this.
Oh, thanks.
We love it.
I love you both.
I think you're both so talented.
And I just, I have watched your family forever.
My brothers used to hang out with Kurt.
your paw, is that what you call him?
Yeah.
And I was a little girl and had the biggest crush on him
when he'd come over and play Monopoly
and all these games with my brothers.
They did, they did Disney.
What did they do?
It was called The Travels of Jamie McFeeders together.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
That's crazy.
Well, I've been around for six decades.
So I'm like an oldie.
So I have lots of, you know, you run into people.
It's kind of fun.
we think we're a big family but holy fuck
I mean and you have eight I mean
you're the only girl yeah
so it's kind of fun to have you without one of your brothers
yeah it is actually because we can really
delve into what that I mean I'm one of three brothers
Donnie's an asshole anyway he didn't show up you know what I mean
Donnie didn't show up he doesn't care what did you say he has no soul
I agree with you all the last
Oh, my gosh.
But eight brothers, I mean, I thought it was, I always say.
Yeah, what's crazy?
All the same parents, you know?
There were nine kids in our family.
Wow.
But it is different being the only girl.
A girl who grew up with only brothers and no sisters is a very specific female.
Yes.
And I can usually pick them right out of a, I could talk to them for 20,
minutes and be like, you only have brothers.
Yeah.
The ones that are like chewing tobacco, spitting on the ground.
Shrinking whiskey.
Is that, is that me?
Yeah.
I've only, I only dipped for like five seconds.
Yeah.
I call, but you, you have all brothers, right?
All brothers.
Yeah, that I grew up with.
I mean, I have sisters, but we're just now starting to connect.
Yeah.
But I still, and, but there's something about our girlfriends that are very important.
And I call us guy chicks.
You know, lots of women can be very high maintenance and moody, and I'm just not.
I'm just kind of like a guy you just kind of happens and you get over it.
And we are a little bit different.
You know, when you grow up with a bunch of boys, it's like you have to get on with things really fast.
Really fast.
And then only until I got older, I was like, oh, I really need girlfriends and I need to like actually nurture this side of me that I haven't been able to nurture as much with my.
male siblings you know yeah but you i think we understand men pretty well i mean i i can i understand
men pretty well i've always i've always gotten along with guys yeah i think is i understand
you are oliver okay let's go right to i understand women i understand women extremely well i am
very i have a strong feminine side i think it's yeah i do ask errant you were first of all
What are you talking about?
I know women.
I'm sensitive.
I'm extremely over-emotional.
I have too much compassion.
I can relate to the female experience.
I can relate to the female experience.
This is not, you are creating a narrative.
No, because I had no father for a long time.
All I had was mom.
Okay, so she raised me.
And then you came in.
And her boyfriends.
And her boyfriends who are, you know what I mean?
I gravitated towards mom.
I understood what it was like to live.
live as a woman. I took that in. I imprinted that on me. That's why I've been in relationships all my
life. This is the most insane. It's true. But there is truth in this because, you know, I study a lot
of psychology. I have eight children. So, you know, I find it fascinating. But men who are raised
predominantly by their mothers, the mother in general, this is a generalized statement that a lot
of therapy and people that I know have talked about, that when you have a home that's predominantly
raised by women, mothers are tough on their daughters, and they spoil their sons. And daddies
nurture their daughters and that dads are tough on their sons. Interesting. So I just got the
shit end of this. Didn't really have a dad. Mom was hard on me. This is.
This is making a lot of sense.
You are the therapy session.
I didn't know I needed.
I've been in relationships all my life.
I've never been a womanizer, really.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Meaning I've enjoyed women in my life.
I've never been a player.
I've never been like a bad man to women, to women, ever.
There's a difference of being a player and like a not a nice guy.
Not a player.
But it's very fascinating because I think we have a generation of women now.
that are very tough and men that like to play, you know, sit on the couch and play Nintendo
because their dads didn't kick him in the butt and say, get out. Now, my dad, my dad was very,
you know, people, oh, he was so tough. No, it was that generation. And I think, because my mother
was so loving, I had like the greatest mom in the world. And, but if I, if I were raised just
by my mom, I would just, you know, be loved and whatever. But it was my dad that taught me my work
ethic it was my dad that taught me and my mom taught me to have you know just show up and you know that
that that my career was my job and that this was a life and that they were separate and that the
jobs will come and go but who are you as a person and so you know i was very blessed yeah women tend to
make their daughters think that way you know i mean that's so important because it's such a young age
you were in the spotlight and it was like holy shit i mean i can go off the rails really quickly
unless you have a parent or parents who are grounding you
and putting it all into a reality perspective.
When did you guys start in the business?
I mean, she came out of the womb, like, performing.
Right?
Because I was three when I started.
But I think you were young, weren't you?
Me, no.
I mean, our parent, I mean, I was always attracted to the arts.
So anything I wanted to do was dance, singing.
performing.
Mom held her back, honestly.
But mom was like, you're going to go be a high school girl.
You're going to do plays.
And then when you're 18, you can do it out.
Yeah.
And it was great because she let me do a couple, like one audition.
And then I would do things like someone, if there was like a table reading or something,
people would go, can Katie come read for this, the young girl on this table read?
And I was like, please, ma'am, let me read.
And she'd be like, okay, you can go do things.
like that. But I was always chomping
at the bit to, you know,
I mean, if there was a talent show, I was
like signing up for it.
Everything and anything. You signed up for like
four spots in the talent show.
Different names.
I should do all of those.
Assumed identities. She's like,
my name's Burt.
Love Lace.
Like, what?
Yeah, you guys are definitely
siblings.
Oh, that's so funny.
But it's true.
But, you know, your entire family was musical.
Were your parents, how, well, what did your parents do?
How did this happen?
How did this all happen?
Right.
Crazy.
So it was not, you know, you know, stage parents.
You know, you've seen them.
Not my parents.
Not my parents.
And my dad had three businesses.
He was in insurance.
He ran the post office.
He was just, he was a very busy guy.
He had nine children, you know.
Well, at that time, he had eight.
And my mom was, my mom was an efficiency expert for the War Department when they met.
And she played saxophone.
My dad sang, he had a beautiful voice, a voice choral group growing up.
But he had, he was, he, his father died when he was like four, three weeks old or somewhere around there.
And so he was constantly raised by stepfathers.
And so he didn't really have family, you know, it was, it was, he did not have an easy life.
It was very hard life for him.
And so family was everything to them.
They met, and that was all, they just wanted, my parents were so tight, they were so loyal, so dedicated.
And they really didn't want us to be in show business, but it just kept happening, you know, like the Disney thing, you know, my brothers, my mother made their clothes, all their shirts.
And so as they grew out of them, she just had to make one more and they kept matching.
It was the cheap way to dress them.
And they were in Disney and this group they call the dapper dance, they're still there.
different people, of course, but that's their name, saw them, and said, you boys sing, and they
sing, they had this incredible harmony. My brothers have like, I've never met anybody who has that
harmony, ever, children. And they were like two, four, six and eight years old, and they were like
perfect harmony. And so Walt Disney put them on a show called Disneyland after dark, and that's where
Andy Williams' father saw them. And then they did the Andy Williams show, and then the rest was
kind of history. So I was three years old when I did Andy show.
And where are you in the pecking order, by the way?
Next to the last time. I'm number eight. But he introduced me as the youngest Osmond brother.
So you were three. Your first performance. Yeah. Did you know what the hell you were doing?
Or what was going on? Honestly, you know, you guys know what it's like. But see, there's a difference between
having the parents that are famous and being the kid, I was a sibling where my brothers were
famous. And you're like, well, do you really like me for me? Or are you just trying to get
to me to see my brothers and things like that? But I just thought every family did that.
Yeah. And you know how that works, Kate, right?
She was like, a lot of Kate's friends were only friends with her to get to me.
Because of you. Yeah. Oh, that's why we're not friends. Yeah. That's why.
you know i dated brett right oh that's right what uncle brett's yeah how long did you date him
well i wasn't allowed to really date till i'm 16 but you know we kind of liked each other i was like
he'd come to Vegas and see the shows and things but i was too young yeah he's he's older than me right
how old is he he was the youngest but i remember when your your parents were dating
because I was dating, Brett.
Yeah.
So you were dating with mom and dad?
We say dating.
I was really,
he was so cute and so lovely.
Yeah.
And we would like sneak into the,
you know,
the halls of CBS and
right.
And like fool around.
That's so,
that's so like 70s.
I love it.
I was so young.
And, but he,
oh,
I mean,
everybody was in love with Hudson brothers.
And their team show was on while we were doing television.
And we talked a lot about how television at that time was so huge.
I mean, there were like three stations and maybe an independent.
And I mean, I know that George Lucas used our show to debut Star Wars because we've been 17 languages and all over the world.
But I think your brother, they were so talented.
But Brett and I would say, you know, they're making you be comedians and they're going to dumb down your music.
Right.
Television was tough back then.
Yeah, I know.
They're such talented.
They are.
They're such talented musicians.
They're actually back together again.
I'm going to go on the road.
I know.
I mean, the Hudson brothers are going to do a little many tour.
Okay.
So let's talk.
So you are three years old.
You're number eight.
Start growing up in this.
What's the age difference?
The youngest is how old?
We're all two years apart.
And then my youngest brother is three years apart.
Okay.
So did you, how, I mean, did you feel just terribly lonely?
or were you, did you feel different than your brothers or did you feel like were there
sort of alliances? Like did certain people get along better than others? Okay, so I can tell
you were raised around brothers because out of all the years of being interviewed, and I mean,
like I said, my sixth decade of a female who has worked consistently my whole life every year,
never been asked that question. Really? Yeah. So I can, so that is that, that, that, that
Now you, because I was curious about you because of this, but yes, it's lonely, isn't it?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And yes, there are groups.
And because my brothers were a group and they performed together, I was the sibling that was
different always.
And I did work with Donnie.
You know, we worked on the Donnie Marie show for a few years.
We did a talk show for a year.
And then we went to Vegas and that was like 11 year run.
But I had my family.
We never saw each other except on stage.
because, you know, he'd fly home to you.
I live in Vegas.
And so, but it is, it's different.
It's a different relationship when you're the only girl.
Yeah, it really is.
I don't have a lot of girlfriends, but the ones I have are very special to me.
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Yeah, I've said my brother, Wayne, is my sister, you know.
He's the one I would always go to to talk about things or whatever.
He's just lovely, very, very smart.
He, the three, my three older brothers wrote a lot of their hit records.
And Wayne, I would liken him to like, probably the John Lennon.
He was the more serious.
He was the amazing lyricist.
And then Alan and Merrill wrote a lot of their hits.
They were the more jove.
real Paul McCartney-ish kind of person.
I use that only because
my brothers were very, very popular.
I mean, I remember once
we were in London and
the door knocked and answered it
and it was Paul McCartney goes, I'm so sorry to bother you,
but could I get your autographs for my daughter?
And I'm like, honey, you could have anything you want.
Like Led Zeppelin would come see the shows.
But my brothers, because of the television show,
Donnie Murray, their music got shoved aside.
and but they were they were incredible I mean was there resentment because of that no no my brothers
have always been great we've always been a family yeah and yeah and we're very supportive of
each other so what do you feel like your sort of influences for the brothers like like how do
they see you like what was your perception of how they see you well I think they're very proud
of me. You know, I do. I think they're very proud of me. But I always, for example, I chose
country music, not only because I love that women, because remember, I came from that era where it was
really tough for women in the business. And I didn't want a three-year career. And so I was probably
a little more analytical. But I realized that, you know, Loretta Lynn, who I knew and people like
that, they could have children and families and still have huge careers and sing songs and write
music and do all this stuff. And so I really like country for that reason. And my, my voice
lent towards it. But over the years, I mean, like my current album, I mean, I'm 64 and it debuted number
one on Billboard. And I'm like, shut up. I'm too old for this. But it's all, it's like opera,
legit soprano and all that. So having a long career has been such a gift because I have been able
to do lots of different styles of music. I sing in my show that I do. I don't do a lot of them
anymore. But when I do, I work big symphonies or orchestras or if I do my solo show. But I do
probably, what, seven different styles of music in it. And so it's really fun. It keeps life
interesting, which I love what you do because you can always be somebody else or do something or
whatever. You see that and a lot of entertainers don't see that where you can be very diverse
and you are. And I'm, this is a compliment to you because I see people get stuck in boxes and
you sing and you do this and you've pushed yourself and your comedic timing is fantastic and all
of this and you know I love that because you don't have to be stuck I mean I was a doll sculptor for
25 years I had one of the biggest doll companies and I started children I don't know if you know
this but like I started children miracle network right and you know we've raised over nine billion
dollars for children 100% of it goes to kids you can't get stuck in the minutia of one thing
you have to keep giving and going and doing and and having all these different
If you go to my Instagram, I've worked with the best makeup people on the planet,
and I'm putting a number into the show.
I had it in Vegas for a little while.
Because it's just in your blood.
Do you ever chill?
Do I chill?
Yeah, I'm going out to ride my motorcycle with my husband and after this.
You are.
But that's an activity.
Do you ever like just straight up chill?
Sit down, put your feet up.
I don't know, though, because, you know, either I'm making something or doing something.
What kind of motorcycle?
I can chill enough when I'm in the grave, so I like to do.
I like to do.
Yeah, I'm with you.
I'm a doer, too, although I like to watch, I like to watch, I like to watch, I like to watch TV.
I like to watch certain shows.
Yeah, I enjoy that.
What was happening with the Osmond's at that time, like when, when the older ones started
getting older, was there breaking off that happened and was that problematic?
Were there arguments happening?
Well, you can't be a sibling and not argue.
right and my my dad always said if you can get along with your siblings you can get along with
anybody and i believe that because you can choose your friends you sure can't pick your sibling right
and um so we learn to get along we learn to respect each other's differences um but it's different
when you're the only girl you know i was a watcher i was i observed and um so i don't drink i don't
smoke, and I know it's a religious thing for me, but before as a kid, it's more like I really
chose it because so many of my friends aren't here anymore. They've all died or they're wasted
or whatever. And so much talent, I would see all this talent just go down the drain. And I was
maybe a little more analytical as a kid. And so I knew if I went to the parties that I would
eventually partake and get involved, I mean, I just knew it. Because I had a rough child
hood. I was abused backstage and realized the safest place was on stage. And so, you know, I was the
one that I kept a lot of secrets and I've talked about it in books and I don't download dirt.
I don't believe in sharing dirty laundry unless it benefits somebody else. But I have, I saw a lot of the
sides of life. And so I just kind of structured my life to try to pick choices that were
sensible, I guess. Does that mean that I didn't make mistakes? Of course, I've made mistakes. I've made many
mistakes. Did you see and witness all these things when you were young? When you were young,
you were witnessing all of these things. Oh, yeah. I mean, I, I mean, you guys, it was crazy. We,
I don't think I realized how big the show was back then. But yeah, we work with everybody. I mean,
you name it. I worked with it. Lucille Ball taught me lighting. She taught me how to cheat at Scrabble.
I mean, Sammy Davis Jr. taught me to walk on a stage. You know, Elvis was called my mother constantly because
she was she looked like his mom but she would talk to him like a son and so we had all these
people coming in and out and just like you I'm sure you know all these people that come in
out but I watched I watched and and I really loved what I did and I didn't want to mess it up
you know what I mean I just wanted to keep doing what I loved and you know I've been so blessed
just incredibly blessed I still am in awe that I'm able to you know perform and do things I
love it's funny you say that it's like I can't help but reflect on my own experiences like I remember
being younger and really wanting to get into my career and like my friends would go out and party
or like show up to this certain like oh we've got to go to this party or we got to go do this and
I never wanted to go I never wanted to really be a part of it I was so specific about where because it was
So it was so important to me to maintain some, I mean, mystery, I guess,
or just some self-respect.
Like, I didn't want to be seen as like a club girl.
And because I cared so much about what I loved to do.
And I know hanging with a lot of men, not brothers, yes, but a lot of their friends
and hanging around, I just hung around a lot of men.
I heard how they would talk, and I never wanted to be part of that talk.
Yeah, that's so interesting.
I'm the same.
I had the same thing where I was like, I never wanted to be a notch on somebody's
belt.
I was very particular about who I would hang out with.
And then deep down, like when my friends would be, you know, dancing on tables, I would
be like, oh, God, I'd give anything to be on that table.
Like, I remember going to Vegas one time, my girlfriends, and they were all on like stripper
poles.
and I was like, oh, God, I wish I could just whip myself around that's super cool right now.
But I didn't do it.
And then instead you installed one in your bathroom.
You would have been great.
You know, we would have been great at it.
But I didn't want that.
And so, you know, but what I, so I would go home and I'd read and I'd study and I'd learn and I'd push.
I mean, I, when I worked for Rogers and Hammerstein and I was there, you know, I was there
for a while and I did like King and I in Broadway and a bunch of sound of music and all that.
I couldn't sing, you know, the heels are alive in country music.
So I learned legit soprano.
And then the lady who taught me that and my British accent and everything,
she said, honey, you can sing opera.
And I went, shut up, you know.
And so I spent 20 years learning to sing opera before I ever put it out on an album.
And the one reason I did it is I love to push myself.
You know, would I ever use it?
No, I never thought I would.
But in my show, it's so fun.
I sing paper roses, which I recorded when I was 12 years old.
It was my first number one record.
And then I'll sing Nassum Norma right next to it.
And it's so fun to see people's eyeballs go, wait a minute.
I thought she just sang country music.
And so it was just really fun to shop, you know, just to.
And that's what it is is you spend time being diverse, you know.
And instead of being out, that's what I saw.
As I saw people wasting their time and I didn't want to do it.
The Donnie Marie show, right?
How long did that last?
Like four years.
Four years.
But there was no show quite like it.
It was variety.
Like, you know, they say, okay, so like this week you're going to tap dance on a giant typewriter to emulate the movie from the 1940s.
And then you're going to be, you know, an alphabet and jump into a bowl of gigantic soup.
And, you know, it was just insane what we did.
But I was so young that I just went, oh, okay.
Okay.
and you did it.
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It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure.
I love that feeling of possibility,
thinking about where to go next,
what kind of place we'll stay in,
and how to make it feel like home.
I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb
that would make the trip unforgettable,
somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor.
If you're planning to be away this September,
why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone?
Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip,
a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local.
And with Airbnb's co-host feature,
you can hire a local co-host to help with everything
from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready.
Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host.
I'm Jorge Ramos.
And I'm Paola Ramos.
Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one.
We sit down with politicians.
I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country.
Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized?
I might personally lose hope.
This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith.
And that's what I believe in.
To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective.
There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other,
sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country.
This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public.
Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos
as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now.
We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing.
Bloomberg and IHeard podcast present.
IVF disrupted, the kind body story.
A podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care.
Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care.
Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity.
equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind
a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people
in the right hands and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what?
All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, starting September 19
on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
do you think that because you became such a the iconic kind of pairing out of all of the siblings you guys really kind of became a much more much more known together that that created did that create any rifts rifts no no and yes um because that's when my brothers kind of went into the production end of things and they kind of
to let their music slide and I'm sure that there was a piece of them because they wrote like
the first concept albums like there was an album called The Plan and crazy horses and I've heard
people in their 30s and 40s now they'll go back and say man they were really good and it makes
my brothers feel good because their music was very important to them but but donnie see so what
happened is donnie started losing his high notes and so I would go in and sing them on the out
records and one of the ex came in and said my goodness she can sing and so that's how i went to
national and i started having my country hits donnie separated from the brothers and started having
his pop his pop hits and that's where the the thing came a little bit country a little bit rock and roll
came from because we both came from different musical styles and also there were no brother sisters on
tv it was a very unique relationship you know they're still not yeah but you don't want to do it
Talk show. We'd make millions, if not billions.
It's not about what you make. Of course it is.
God damn it. You're honestly...
No, it is. I mean, we'd have a great time. We'd also make billions.
At that time, you had...
Millions to billions.
Wow.
But siblings, there's not sibling relationships out there. It's a very unique relationship.
It's such a unique. It's so important, too.
And let's talk about that you grew up as nine siblings and then you,
just decide to have eight children.
I really did it.
God had a lot to do with that.
I really didn't.
I couldn't have children very well.
And I remember one day one of my,
I can't remember which ones are adopted,
but I do have some that are adopted.
But she came in and she was six years old
and she said, I know why God made it
so you couldn't have children.
And I said, she said babies.
And I said, why?
She says, because you breed idiots.
and she had just had a fight.
She had a fire with her brother.
But my children, so what's really cool?
That's deeply funny.
That's really,
there's an amazing joke, by the way.
Yeah, it's a great line.
But my kids are so different.
I mean, I just have, I have one of everything.
I really do.
I could not have more diverse children.
And I love it because they are so in love with each other.
and they are so protective of each other and they are so like if one of them struggles man they're all there
and it just it's such a it's like the greatest thing a mom can have is to know that that you leave kids that
that are good people and that respect each other and give back to society it mean like I said
they're all very unique and they're really different but I've learned so much in being a mom what's the age
range 40 to 21 okay and did you take anything from being raised in a big family like what are the
things that you feel like you took on and was like I loved the way my mom and dad did this for us and what
are the things that were like absolutely not we're breaking that cycle yeah um well I think my parents
were perfect uh were they perfect no but I think they were perfect I don't know if anybody's
perfect. But for me, I made a lot of mistakes. And I know being the performer, it's great to be
busy. But when you bring your kids, your kids can't just sit around and do nothing while you're
working. But it was either that or leave them home and I wouldn't leave them home. And I've told my
children that that there was no option for me. They were not going to stay home. I didn't have
them to have somebody else raise them.
And so they've all, I've got, like my oldest, it's incredibly talent, can sing, my daughter,
you know, but I said I really didn't want them to be in show business.
I would rather them have a life.
And they wanted a life where they could go home and be with their families and their kids
and have dinner and those kinds of things.
Because it's not an easy world.
I mean, I look at you guys.
It's not easy to have parents that are entertainers.
I'm sorry, but I know.
know from having children that it's very challenging it is so none of them gravitated towards
the business at all none of them wanted to be in it yeah my son but but he he is a thinker like me
and he said mom I don't really think I want to worry about my next job before this one's done
because you know you always have to keep working ahead and I mean I'm always like two or three
years ahead planning things because not everything turns out and you want to have something
exciting and he goes i and my son by the way is 40s going to be retired in two years he's doing
great he's very successful he has four children and he loves being able to go home and be with his
kids at night you know and uh and my daughter my other daughter has two children my other daughter
has three children so um i have nine grandchildren and it's it's the best i do i do great and that's so
fun that's the best i mean you have nine grandchildren and and you're
I'm 60.
Yeah, I'm 64.
I have no problem with age.
That's so great.
If 9 grand at 64 is like the best.
I feel like that's going to be me with Ryder.
Wow, so you were young when you had your first.
I was 23, yeah, when I had my first.
You know what?
It's like the other day my grandson came up to me and he goes, he goes, grandma, I think you're famous.
Are you famous?
And I said, only because I'm your grandma.
And he goes, oh, okay.
Well, you sing with Nana and my mom.
mom and that at my baptism.
So that's like him.
And then my other grandson, who's my oldest, he sent me a video.
I'm going to put it on my social.
He goes, Alexa, who's Mariazma's most famous grandson?
And it named him.
And he's like, you know, they all know me different, you know, as different.
But I'm grandma.
That's what I want to be.
I just want to be grandma.
Has God been in your life since the beginning?
Yeah, he has.
Through your family and all your brothers and her.
right yeah they're all they're all pretty yeah they're all very very strong faith you know and
but I think that might have been part of my um desire to know things young is because I'm not the
kind of person that would say oh yeah you know I'm a member of this religion because my mom and dad are
that's so not me you know I had to know for myself so I've studied multiple religions and you know
beliefs and things like that so it's but i i feel like it's important to have a higher source
to keep you in check you know but that's just and are all of your children or do all of your
children follow the same are as as religious as the family sort of carry no i have like i said
i have eight of the most diverse souls on the planet and i could tell you great stories of how
they came to me believe me and then and then there are times where you know they struggle with
attachment disorders and all kinds of things.
And I've studied psychology and trying to help and understand how they feel.
And there was a period of time where I went to my mom.
I think I was about nine years old.
And I did not, you know how your body changes?
I just did not look like my brothers at all.
And I went to my mom and I said, mom, am I adopted?
And she laughed and walked away.
Well, I took that as I was adopted.
And I thought for like a year I was adopted.
I didn't dare ask any more questions.
and I told my kids that are. I said, you know, I think I know how you understand. I believe I
have an understanding how you feel. So I've never had any weirdness about that with them.
If they, you know, if they want to meet their biological, I wait until they're 18 so they're
emotionally can handle it because it's not always good, you know, but, but I've said to them,
I said, you know, if you have issues with me being your mom, get over it because you chose me.
And they, you know, I'm mom. They, they love me and I just couldn't love my kids.
kids, all of them.
They're all my, they're just, I don't divide them up.
They're just amazing children.
So my story is not always happy.
But, you know, people get involved in relationships, broke up my first marriage.
I remarried, not a great marriage, 20 years.
Finally, you know, you know, it's good to leave.
Well, I didn't want to have my children have another divorce.
Do you know what I'm saying?
I just didn't want you.
You understand.
as a parent you don't want that for your child but when your children come to you and say please leave
I'm like yes I will and I swore I'd never get married again I swore and because and I was the only
financial supporter of my children so you know I had to work and anyway I went to Vegas because of my
oldest ran into my first husband and we remarried oh wow I didn't know that yeah you remarried
your first husband?
And love of my life.
Yeah.
Well, I'll never re-marry my first husband.
But that's okay.
He feels the same way.
I don't want to get too personal, but like you broke up why the first time?
There were a lot of reasons and it's not a nice business.
You know, I'm not a person.
I'm not that I could write the most interesting book on the planet about the people.
I've worked with and everything else.
I never will because I don't believe in that.
Yeah.
And I know you could too.
Yeah.
I sometimes like if I have, if I actually wrote a book about how from day one, I mean,
you know, or I'd say, let's say my first memories.
Yeah.
All the way.
I mean, I can't imagine what that must be like for you.
Oh, God.
But you have that too.
You have that.
You know, you're still so young.
I mean, you have years.
years and years to collect data. Even more stories. It's like if I was, I'm with you though,
I don't believe in this, I don't know, or maybe it's also because I just really believe in putting
positive things out in the world. I agree with you. And like pushing those things. And I,
I also feel that, you know, there are circumstances that do happen to you, but there's a lot of things that
I could share that I am no victim to that I had, that I found myself in those circumstances
as well. There's so many stories. And it's like people nowadays are so craving to find fault.
And I just think that's a sad scenario for our society because I think the most, hey, we can find bad
about anybody. If you want to dig deep enough, you can always, but why? What is the point? And what a
waste of life. And what a waste
of trying to better yourself.
You said waste of our life.
September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school,
new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your
next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next,
what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like.
home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere
with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September,
why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of
someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's
co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your
home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola
Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through
a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant
mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and
activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope.
this individual might lose the faith,
but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith.
And that's what I believe in.
To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective.
There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other,
sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country.
This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public.
Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the My Culture
podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now.
We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing.
Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present.
IVF disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize
fertility care.
Introducing Kind Body.
of women's health and fertility care.
Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity,
it grew like a tech startup.
While Kind Body did help women start families,
it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients.
You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands,
and then to find out again that you're just not.
Don't be fooled.
By what?
All the bright and shiny.
Listen to IVF disrupted,
the Kind Body story,
starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I've been, over the last 20 years, like, just stealing really personal items from my family
and really, like, really compromising pictures and shit that I can sell for a lot of money if things go wrong.
You can use against them.
I have a safe, filled with things.
He's just projecting because he knows we actually have those of him.
Yeah, but they're not going to sell running because I put them out there for free.
Oh my God, I'm doing this thing.
It's like an advertising thing.
I won't name who I'm doing it with.
But I put this thing together and in it.
Oliver sort of walked away naked.
He loves to be naked.
It's very funny.
And it was so funny in this advertisement.
And they came back.
They're like, look, we love your brother.
but you got to take the nudity out.
Yeah.
It's like Oliver.
The best of him just always gets cut out.
That's ridiculous.
So now it's just the first part?
Yeah.
It's okay.
I guess there are people in this, in the world,
who've had these amazing lines,
who've experienced and seen so much,
like talking to you right now.
I just, I kind of want to go back into the story of the girl in Vegas.
who was Elvis was calling her dad and you know Sammy Davis was teaching you know what I mean
it's just how old were you then um I was teenager yeah imagining a teenager in Vegas at that in that
era no and being it like but you know height you know you saw the movie on Elvis right the one
And Tom Hanks was, yeah.
It was actually quite accurate.
Not so much the colonel, but that was a very accurate portrayal because he would call my mom.
Because we played the same hotel when he wasn't there.
And but she would call him in that room.
He would sit up there.
We stayed in that suite as well.
And it was so dark and lonely.
And everything was there that you need except maybe real people.
And that was kind of that era.
And one of the things I think that was very changing from him.
was that he said, do not let management do to you, speaking to us as kids and entertainers,
due to you what the colonel did to me.
And that was isolate myself from your fans.
And I think because of that, I go out of my way.
Like when we were in Vegas for 11 years performing,
Donnie likes to go fast and go home, right?
me sometimes I would stay for hours and I would always just say I believe in female intuition
and I believe every woman has it my mother was was like creepy with it and now my and then my
children say that I'm creepy with it like they'd be ready to do something bad at a party and I go
hi how are you doing what are you doing and they'd be like mom we hate you and so but you knew
I did I knew just like my mom but she told me we have it it's a muscle it's like anything
If you listen, the more you listen, the more you'll feel these feelings and follow them.
And so that's one of those things that I watched and I learned from my mother and how, and there were times, you know, that she'd be talking to him and I kind of walk by the door and she'd just shut it.
Yeah.
What did my mom say?
My mom said, people say women's, I have the women's intuition.
And my mom, I think, said, I have beyond women's intuition.
Right.
I know, right?
The B-W-I, beyond women's intuition.
Like, that's more than, you know.
But it's a gift that we have, and it is so real.
And the more you listen to it, the more it'll astound you.
So you would sit with your fans and for hours.
Hours.
And there was this one time I was so sick.
I've been through some health things.
And I would, like, vomit every show.
And finally, I just, you know, they had to get to the source of it.
But I was so sick this one night.
And I remember it was like, no, you're going down to the meet and greet.
And I went down, I knew it was going to be at least an hour and a half to three hours.
And it was really interesting.
And not that there weren't lovely people, there were, but there was nothing like life-changing until next to the last person after three hours.
And she threw her arms around me and said, I lost my son six days ago from suicide.
I lost a child from suicide.
And she said, I didn't see her show.
I flew in just for the meet and greet and I have to fly right back because I have to go back to work.
But I just, nobody understands and I know you do.
If I had not gone, that whole trip would have been in vain for her.
So I sat and talked this for a couple hours after we were up to like 20 years.
But that's that intuition.
You say that, you know, I unfortunately have a very good friend who'd also.
Ross just recently, a child, to suicide. And what is sort of the, I know this is maybe a
feels like a silly question, but as someone who's, you know, supporting as my girlfriend right now,
what do you think is the first thing that when you're going through that grieving process
is important to tell someone that you know and love that's going through it? Like, what was the,
what was the best support system you had?
And what did that look like during that time?
Like if someone could have given you some insight.
Well, I think, so one of the things that happened to me is I guess that the hotel told people not to say anything to me.
Well, after, so I got a lot of heat from people because I went back to work two weeks later.
And, you know, people just love to criticize.
And I was like, you don't understand.
I have seven more children that need to keep living.
and because they they were the siblings were devastated by it let alone the parent but um so i went
back to work and it was so bloody hard i can't even tell you it was just awful and so i
i was in this meet and greet and this woman came up to me and i guess that he had been gone
about three almost a month and she goes i know we're not supposed to say anything to you but
I lost my son.
And I said, who told you you could?
And that's when I found out.
And I said to her, I said, so does it ever get easier?
And she said, no.
And I said, okay, I can live with that.
She says, but over time, God will give you longer respite.
And things will happen that will bring you peace.
But initially, it is just the most awful.
You just want to go back to sleep and wake up from a bed.
dream. But one of the greatest things that that I was told by a sibling who lost a sibling
was to give all of my children and I got myself one two and write to them and write things
you remember and write if you're angry and write if you're sad and write if and then write everything
you can because you'll forget and they're wonderful journals to look back on, you know,
just to and you can get out things on paper that you can't say sometimes as as the person
who has lost.
So I would get him a journal and just say,
if you're hurting, let's talk.
It's, you know, it's okay.
Is it ever going to get better?
You're never going to get over it.
But there will be respites, you know?
I've noticed my friend saying to me that, like,
when she thinks that,
I think a lot of people think when someone's going through that,
like I don't know what to say.
Should I call them?
Do I connect with them?
What do I say?
and then, you know, that becomes the thing that they say, which is like, I don't know what to say.
I have no words.
You don't have to say anything.
You just be there.
And I think that that was what, what, you know, she said to me, which is the support and just people even just saying, you know, I love you so much and I'm here and I love you.
And that's really it's.
So that's the most powerful is that people are afraid to talk to you.
Yeah.
And just to say, I'm not afraid of this.
This must be the worst.
I can't even imagine.
This must be the worst thing.
The worst ever.
And that meaning and that having that support is so meaningful.
And I can see it in my friend right now.
I think loss of anybody that we love is horrible.
I mean, I remember when I lost my mom, my brothers were just worthless.
And so I had to do everything.
And so I never really got to grieve and I was taking care of my children and everything else.
Well, it hit me a year.
She passed away on Mother's Day.
And it was a year to that date.
I was driving up the canyon.
I was in Utah.
And I just start sobbing.
And I think that's what I do is I get in the car and I just drive.
You know, that's kind of my way to deal with things.
And all of a sudden, I felt her, I swear to you guys, I felt her say, Marie, turn the car around.
go to Nordstrom.
And I was like, oh my gosh, I am massively dysfunctional.
And so I went up the canyon a little further.
It was like, turn this car around and go to Nordstrom.
And I was like, fine.
And so I turned the car around.
I went down to the mall, walked into Nordstrom.
I'm like, okay, now what?
But this is this intuitive thing, you know.
And it was like, go up the escalator.
And I felt prompted, long story short, felt prompted to go into this women's department
that I would never shop in.
And I turned around and there was a skirt there with hundreds of little butterflies.
Well, that was symbolic.
And my mother always talked about butterflies, meaning the angels are with you.
And I realized that when I was going through really difficult things as a young girl,
my mom would take me shopping.
We wouldn't necessarily buy anything, but we would shop and always get ice cream after.
And so I realized that my mom intuitively, spiritually, was taking me shopping.
was taking me shopping
so I bought the skirt
and I took the skirt out for ice cream
and it was so
lovely
and if you look for those things in grief
you'll find them
you really will
those little tiny little tender mercies
yeah that's good advice
September
always feels like the start of something
whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to
start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to
go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already
imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm,
character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not
consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone. Your home could be the
highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a
local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything
from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash
host. I'm Jorge Ramos.
And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live
through a time as uncertain as this one.
We sit down with politicians.
I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations,
but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country.
Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized?
I might personally lose hope.
This individual might lose the faith,
but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith.
And that's what I believe in.
To bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective.
There's not a single day that
Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in
the country.
This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public.
Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network
on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now.
We were getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like.
The window could be closing.
Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present.
IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story,
a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care.
Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care.
Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity,
it grew like a tech startup.
While Kind Body did help women start families,
it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients.
You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands
and then to find out again that you're just not.
Don't be fooled.
By what?
All the bright and shiny.
Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story,
starting September 19 on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
Let's do which we usually.
like a little rapid fire.
Okay.
Coffee or tea?
I don't drink either.
Whoa, no caffeine.
Nope.
Well, no, I do.
I take caffeine, but if I take it, so I have one, my friend is one of the top
brain surgeons in the world and he said, if you can, if you need the caffeine, just
do the pill, half of a pill, because you don't need all the other chemicals that and all
the other things it does to your stomach.
So, like tea is like tannic acid and it makes it so you don't absorb nutrients.
and coffee is terrible for your um terrible for your stomach but it's very good for a calonic
so wait it is yeah coffee colonics wait a minute what do you have a vice any vice
yeah it is literally your irritation job is like oh right do you have any vice at all like mine is
drinking smoking weed man and we can't can't and we can go on
Do I have advice?
I like, I have just had to be very careful with my health.
And so I'm pretty, but I do like ice cream.
I mean, if I could eat ice cream every day, I would eat at ice.
Got it.
So like it's a guilty thing.
But that's not really much, right?
No, no.
Well, it is if it's something that it's not good for you that makes you feel good.
Right.
Anything in it.
Who is your first crush, your real crush in real life?
And then celebrity after.
that. I want to know who you were, especially growing up
with who you grew up. Are you saying like, Uncle Brett?
Uncle Brett? No.
Well, he wasn't one of my young crushes.
Yeah. Yeah.
Probably Andy Gibb.
We, he was, we were close.
Yeah. Andy Gibb. He was hot.
Yeah, he was really, he was amazing. Television loved him.
He, we were, we were very close. Yeah.
There's more to that story, but we're not.
Yeah. She gave a lot of tells. She'd wiped her to her, no.
There's a lot of tells.
Okay, so if you could sort of, this is really going to be hard,
but if you could describe your sibling group in one word or two words,
what would that be?
First thing, I mean, my brothers?
Yeah.
They are interlinked.
I think there's a hyphen in there.
doesn't count
they grew up together
and they'll all die together
do you know what I'm saying
they're just they're just
I love that that's amazing
I mean you typically you would think
oh no this person hates this person
these two are more tight
we have a family group text
and they just they all day long
each other that's so great
yeah who responds the least
in the family group text
Donnie
and who is like always sending things on the family group?
Yeah, who's like you've got to stop.
Alan and Merrill.
Who's the funniest?
Wayne.
Who is the one that you would go to if you were,
who would be your first phone call if you were in jail?
I would say in jail.
I would say Wayne, well, Wayne would know what to do.
Merrill.
Okay.
Which brother is most likely to be naked?
All of them.
Don't you think all men like to be naked?
God, it's true.
What is that?
It's not even, like, penises aren't even that attractive.
I just go backside.
You know what I mean?
Like, they don't, maybe that's what?
I don't go full frontal.
Oh, yeah.
Give you a couple more years.
No, no, no.
I can't do that yet.
Okay.
Okay.
So if you could have any superpower, what would that superpower be?
Ooh, I want to know.
know that for you and you.
Superpower?
Mm-hmm.
I mean, I'd fly.
Oh, I don't know.
This changes like daily from me.
I'd fly.
If you could fly.
I know it's really hard because I don't know that they would change for me constantly, too.
What would, well, I'm kind of, so this year, because you're under contract, you can't
break an arm.
So you're always like being careful.
This year I said, and actually started last year, but I am terrified of heights.
So I jumped out of an airplane.
Wow.
I climbed Mount Sinai.
And yeah, I've just been doing all these fun and same things.
I climbed pyramids, went to Iceland.
I mean, I just am.
So a superpower is just not to be afraid of any.
I'm just going for it.
Do you go with your husband?
That's what mine is to be to be truly fearless.
Like that is very hard thing.
That's what I would say is just to just go for it.
And I'm going to Iwasu Falls next.
and just, I just want to have fun, you know?
This is crazy.
You've done so many things.
I, uh, sucks.
I haven't done anything.
I mean, it's like, it's not true.
That's not true.
I mean, it's incredible, the things that you've done and gone and seen.
And this desire it is, but it's a desire for you to, to conquer fears and, you know,
constantly moving forward.
This is why we should never compare ourselves because you forget, I'm 64.
And I've had a lifetime of trying things.
Yeah.
And so it just, it just, it just,
accumulates. So by the time you're 64, you just keep doing things and learning things. I mean,
I never thought I'd have my portfolio. I have a crazy portfolio, do you know? And you never think of
that when you're 20 or 30 or 40. You just do, you know? So don't. My time's coming.
Like late 60s, 70s. It's all going to congeal. Okay. So then let's do the last question,
which I'm just coming up with off top of my head
because of what you're what you're saying,
which is you're doing all these things,
but what is it that you are most looking forward to doing this year?
What is the number one thing?
Yeah.
Now that the kids are all out of the house
and they're all doing great
and they're all financially good on their own,
I just want to be with my husband.
But you've been with them for so long.
not enough just the two of us we really like each other yeah wow would you say he's your best friend
yes but you know here here's probably the reason why 17 of my friends from age 55 to 65
who just lost their spouses crazy weird ways like within a day to a week did you say 17
17 of my friends what and when you and
they were just at that age
where their kids were moving out
and they were going to start living their lives
and I went, no, I'm going to start living my life
why we're healthy and why we can have fun together.
Yikes, that's so many people.
Because he's the love of my life
and he's the reason, you know,
I don't want to go through life alone.
I want someone to document it with
and to be a part and to know me.
He loves me for me, not for who I am.
I know he's proud of the things I've done,
but that's not why we love each other.
He's waving goodbye to me.
He's like, goodbye.
I'm going on my motorcycle ride.
All right.
I'll see you in a minute.
One more question, then we're done.
Are you ever going to retire?
I don't know that I could.
I don't feel like I need to prove anything.
Like, I guess I can choose what I want to do.
But I might be that old lady on Broadway that does the funny role.
You know what I mean?
I love humor.
And I'm a weird animal, you know, people like me don't exist much anymore.
So, I don't know, you know, I mean, I was, Betty White was like a second mom to me and
Flores Leachman and all these people.
So, you know, I love, I love older women that, and I can sing and I can dance and I can do
whatever.
So, you know, maybe a Broadway roll down the, maybe a part in a film or something.
I don't know.
Good.
I don't know.
I never say never.
Yeah.
Honestly, I was looking so forward to this because you have a perspective that a lot of siblings don't have with your parents and everything that you've been through and being in the business.
And like I said, there's there's not very many people that you can go, I get you.
I understand.
I get you from this point of view.
And so this has been like one of the most fun interviews I've done.
Oh, yay.
Thank you.
We had a blast too.
Have so much fun on the motorcycle.
Be safe.
What are you riding?
I have a Harley.
Nice.
Yeah.
Awesome.
God.
What don't you do?
What don't you do?
My gosh.
All right.
I have a great rest of your day.
Hopefully we'll see you down the road.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Get a hug.
All right.
All right, you guys.
Thank you.
And congratulations on your podcast.
It's really fun.
Thank you.
Thank you so much.
Okay.
Bye.
Bye.
Bye.
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