Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Slam Dunk with Brenda Song (Part 1)

Episode Date: February 7, 2025

Oliver and Kate touch base with Brenda Song after the LA Wildfires. What they fear will happen to the Palisades moving forward, and why that town may never be the same.Plus, the Grammy performer that ...has Kate and Oliver doing a double take.Did a certain celebrity copy a Goldie Hawn performance from the past?  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:42 Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the powerful stories I'll be mining on our upcoming 12th season of family secrets. We continue to be moved and inspired. by our guests and their courageously told stories. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson.
Starting point is 00:02:16 And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling reverie. No, no. Sibling rivalry. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling rivalry.
Starting point is 00:02:43 That's good. I want to say that you're in Toronto and you just started a movie with your son. We'll get into that later. But because the beautiful Brenda song, is waiting for us in the waiting room. Yes. But I'm so excited. How does it feel to be working?
Starting point is 00:03:04 Is it weird? No, it's good. Alicia is awesome, Silverstone. She's amazing. She's the best. You know, she works with Nicole. No, I know. I know.
Starting point is 00:03:16 And she's so nice and so sweet. Wilder's doing great. You know, he's very natural, very cool. He's finding his footing. But, you know, it's not easy to be thrown into this world on a set with a million people. never having done it before ever. He's handling it really, really well. Yeah, and he hasn't spent much time on set.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Like, when we were kids, we spent a lot of time on movie sets. Yeah, they're kind of over it. In the beginning, it's like, yay, craft service. And then now, you know, as the kids are older, like, we don't want it. It's boring as fuck. Like, we don't want to go to the set. We loved it. Yeah, I'm excited.
Starting point is 00:03:51 I'm excited for him. That's like such a great moment for him. It's so fun. But he's still a teenager, meaning. I had this idea, right? I literally created like a montage in my head where we're going to be here and we're going to like play music and sit by the fire and watch movies.
Starting point is 00:04:08 It's going to be in my bed. I want to get into this with Brenda. And we're going to go over lines and we're going to do this. You know, and it's like it's beautiful music playing. We hug at the end of the night and say, see you later, son. And it's like, see a later, dad. I can't wait to, you know. And literally it's like, what's up?
Starting point is 00:04:23 Goes up to his room and the door closes. I'm like, oh, okay. I know he really is such a teen. Yeah. In that way. Rider, Ryder will talk to me all night long. I have to like get,
Starting point is 00:04:37 I have to like pry off the phone with him. I have to be like, I gotta go. Yeah. And like, I know. And mom, mom, no, sweetie. I know. You're in college.
Starting point is 00:04:46 You're 21. Can you? We got to get off the phone. All right. Let's bring. I just want to say, yeah, yeah. I'm excited because Brenda song, we're starting this is actually the initial first thing that I'm doing with a castmate to promote our show running point and on Netflix comes out on the 27th of February and I'm so excited because she plays my bestie and my chief of staff on the show and she's phenomenal and now we get to like you know delve deep into her psyche yes which is going to be very interesting
Starting point is 00:05:25 Hi! Oh, I'm so excited. I'm so good. I'm good. I mean, it's been crazy. I was about to say, are you, are you okay? Is the house okay? Are the kids okay?
Starting point is 00:05:38 Thank you. Everybody's great. Everybody's fine. The house made it luckily, but it's been really, it's been like peaks and valleys, like just so sad and so scary. And then it's like you kind of, and there's these like lulls of like what's happening and then you go and you see it and it's just so devastating like the whole thing is just yeah it sucks but it really is interesting to see
Starting point is 00:06:07 what happens to a community in in a time like this because you realize like how strong the people are in it and it's really amazing to watch that that I have to say has been like the thing that's come out of this the most is like people who've lost everything and how they're handling it and and and like how they're just one day at a time and with you know having lost everything it's just wild you know yeah no it's horrible it's sad but but at the same time I'm wondering when it's okay to post something funny on Instagram again like stop it Oliver but I'm saying like this is my dilemma like I I there's so many things I want to say and have fun and I'm like
Starting point is 00:06:55 is it too so can I yet I mean I was thinking about this rap song that I have recorded I have it and it's you your rap song about growing up in the palisades oh god
Starting point is 00:07:10 and you and you say you even say all the stores in it like you talk about all the different places in it it's actually like maybe we can do something yeah so we could do something charitable with this You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:07:25 Where are you all of? You're not in the west side, right? No, I'm in Brentwood. I was right on the line of evacuation. I'm in Toronto right now. I'm working in Toronto. So I haven't had time to even process any of it. And I think there's a part of me that is doing that on purpose.
Starting point is 00:07:42 You know, I have a boat, you know, I fish and I love my boat and I took it along the coast and I hugged the coast and went all the way up. So I got to see it from that perspective. And honestly, that was the first. time that I was able to sort of take in the scope of it and finally feel like emotional. Yeah. You know, because it was unbelievable to see. And this is where we grew up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:04 You know, I mean, we, for 40 plus years, we were here and it's just all fucking gone. So at the same time, you know, all we can do is just move forward and try to help out as much as we can. And then, and I think I'm just going to post something funny. Because I think I got to break the ice. I want to do something. It's a weird thing. It's a real grieving process of like it's but it's not a human. It's a place.
Starting point is 00:08:30 And so like it like like the like when you're grieving a death of a person, it's sort of like it comes at you at weird moments. Like my ex has a house in the palisades and the alphabet streets and it's literally the only house standing. And he sent me these videos. Yeah. He sent me videos. and I it was there was it was weird because it was like
Starting point is 00:08:55 looking at it is almost unimaginable when you're looking at it and then and then he drove by the place where we always go and it's gone and like our little yogurt shop that we take the kids like every night you know
Starting point is 00:09:06 toppings and toppings and toppings is gone and it just like it just like I just started to ball yeah you have your routines in your life and the people that work there and Kay did love
Starting point is 00:09:20 I love Toppings. People are like, what are you doing tonight? I'm like, going to Topics. Here's the thing. My best friends grew up in the Palisades, so I spent most of my teenage and 20s going to the Palisades and also being from the Valley every time I went to visit.
Starting point is 00:09:37 I was like, I'm bringing an overnight bag. I would spend, it's just so hard because one of the most beautiful things about the Palisades and that whole area is the community. Like, I feel like it was a place where we would walk down a Cafe Vita and we would run into like 12 different people that we hadn't seen in a while. Everyone is the community there's so beautiful, the hardest part,
Starting point is 00:09:56 and the most beautiful thing is seeing the resilience and the strength of a community and all the people who live there, how much they love being there. And I think that's one of the hardest things is I always tell people who come to L.A., if you find the area that you love and you find that community that you love,
Starting point is 00:10:11 that's what L.A. is about because you can find so many different kinds of communities here. And that the Palisades was so special. And, you know, and I think it'll be stronger and better. It's just so, it's just so hard. I couldn't imagine growing up there and, you know, it just not being. I still feel so crazy. We were there the Sunday before everything happened.
Starting point is 00:10:30 It was like, I was like, it's just, it's just to feel so surreal. Yeah. But that being said, it's like, it's just weird to like be continued, like, life just moves on. It's so. I know. And it's also, I also was thinking about, though, like, the one thing that how, where the Palisades had so much magic. I think Altadena feels the same way is there's a lot of generational family. So like there's a lot of people in the Palisades that aren't, you know, like don't make the
Starting point is 00:10:59 kind of have the kind of means that say I do, you know, or a lot of people did. They sort of inherited their homes. They live there. They're still on, you know, and I think the thing for the Palisades community is actually making sure that all of those people can still afford to go back. to their house and rebuild instead of having to sell. And I think that one of the things that made the palisades kind of internally is that we knew families there that are generational families that we all grew up together, even though it's very different kind of set of means. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:37 And Altadena, it seems like it's the same thing. But I think that, you know, there's a lot of people who have the ability to rebuild and the Palisades. Whereas in Altadena, you know, when you think about, like, how to help and how to rebate, like, where, where those resources are going, to me, that's all I can think about is, like, you know, the resources need to be going to the people who, who, that were not pushing people out because they lost their home. The problem is, is, like, is Palisid's going to turn into, like, a fucking Mick community
Starting point is 00:12:11 with all the same build. The beauty of the Palisades was, it was very eclectic in its architecture. starting from like the 30s and then moving forward into current day, but everyone sort of had their own idea of what to build. So it had that feeling. Now is it going to be rebuilt, you know, with this sort of fucking same shit? I hope not because that's the soul.
Starting point is 00:12:34 That was the soul of this place. Same with Altadine in that area, there's so much beautiful architectural history there. And like you said, multi-generational families. It's been beautiful sort of seeing L.A. come together because we are in all these little pockets everywhere. and you forget that, oh, this, you know, you forget that the other pockets exist because
Starting point is 00:12:52 in L.A. is so, I feel like you're in a little bubble. Did you guys watch the Grammys? Did you see the Grammys? I loved them. I loved the Grammys. I loved them. I didn't watch it because I never really do watch a war show, but everyone says it was awesome. Oh, it was the best Grammys ever. And honestly, I was watching it all by myself. Like, no one wanted to watch it with me. I was like sitting in the, here just watching it. And I was like, does anybody? my God. I was like crying. All the performances were great, but it had such heart and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, allie, and I, and I, and I was, like, all, oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was, you know what it was, I thought that was so much fun about this, Grammys in particular, was seeing all these, like, really young emerging talent, like, really at, like, this, like, it's so crazy that all these, like, Serena Carpenter, Chappel Ron, they're all so young. Ben's
Starting point is 00:13:47 Boone. I was like, I had never really seen him perform before. And I was like, oh my God. It was really, really fun to sort of see this like younger generation. Just it gives us, it gave me just a lot of hope just creatively. It really excited me. Seeing Beyonce finally win. Her reaction was my favorite thing ever. Her like disbelief that she finally won. Wait, when you say, when you say Beyonce finally won, finally won what? Never won album of the year. Ever. Really? Ever. Ever. Ever. Which is insane. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:14:21 And her reaction was just the best because she was like, me? Me? Well, that was for, that was country album. Yeah, that was country album. She won best country album. And I think like she was sort of like, yeah, in her mind, I bet I'm just going to say, I bet she was like, well, I think maybe I'll win album of the year, but I'm not going to win country album. Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:40 But she won both. Yeah, which is amazing because, I mean, I think it's debatable whether or not it's truly country album, but I'll take Cowboy Carter over, you know, many, many things. Yeah, it was such a, it's one of my favorite albums of last year. And I loved that, like, seeing all these artists, I haven't seen them live, but I was, it was so much fun to see all the, like, it was so expressive. Yeah. And so much great showmanship, like, Sabrina Carpenter, just her sort of throwback, cute,
Starting point is 00:15:09 kind of, she's a musical theater. It's a musical theater girl. Like, I was like, oh, this is musical theater. I loved it. And then Chapel Rhone is just like such a, I mean, just so like colorful. It's like Lady Gaga like walked so she could run. You know what I mean? She's like this like the new age Gaga in another for this generation.
Starting point is 00:15:28 I love her so much. It's really, I mean, her just and the fact that she sings the way she does and can perform like that is incredible. Like I, it's so hard to do that, like to have that kind of range. I just love Kendrick winning for a disc track number one. And if you notice, I don't know if this was pointed out, but did you see what he was wearing? No. Okay, he was wearing, I might be taking this far, but I have a feeling it's on purpose, and I haven't read it anything yet. He's wearing a denim on denim, okay, which is called a Canadian tuxedo.
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yeah. Drake is from Canada. It's obviously Canadian. Yeah. Gotcha. I mean, if he went that deep, which I think he did, that is so rad. he probably didn't like just not obviously not knowing
Starting point is 00:16:17 but just knowing his work I feel like he's someone that would go that far yeah that's what I'm saying I know I just don't like people dissing people I know people people people
Starting point is 00:16:28 yeah but the whole crowd screaming a minor yeah no he's like a distract about not liking distract that's a great idea oh god The non-distract.
Starting point is 00:16:44 I always feel so bad for the people who, like, lose out to the other, you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I don't know. I think every time I think of district, I just think of old school like Eminem and, like, eight-mile. That's what I think of. Yeah. But it's like, don't we teach our kids to be nice to each other?
Starting point is 00:17:03 A thousand percent. So it's like, shouldn't adults be nice to each other? Aren't we just supposed to diss behind their back? isn't that the way it's really supposed to go? Isn't that better or worse? That's worse. You want a diss to the face.
Starting point is 00:17:18 All right. I just love Kendrick and then also just the celebration of like L.A. rap. I just, it's like. And it's like we're like 90s kids. Like that's just what we grew up on.
Starting point is 00:17:35 It was like the explosion of West Coast hip hop. Yeah. Drey, Snoop, anytime I hear, like, when I remember the, like, the Olympic thing where they were, like, passing along, like, the baton to L.A. and sing, like, Snoop. I was just, like, I was my part of Mac, he's from New York, so he doesn't get it the way I do. I was like, I was so emotional, and I was love.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And he goes, oh, yeah, it's great. Snoop. I'm like, you don't understand, honey. Snoop is L.A. Snoop is L.A. rep. He would not be, and he was like, okay, honey, awesome. Like, I was like, you don't understand. It's a cultural thing.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Growing up in L.A., especially. in that time, he is like a voice of that generation, at least for me. Yeah, a thousand percent. That was a great, that was a great passover to the L.A. With Snoop doing his thing, it was fucking awesome. It was the best.
Starting point is 00:18:23 It's so, I'm really excited, but also I'm like terrified about the Olympics coming to the, coming to L.A. We can't leave our homes. I think that, I think that, yeah, I think like that's that, yeah, the traffic will be on another level. I probably won't even be here. I don't even be. I'll be somewhere else.
Starting point is 00:18:40 And as much as I would love to go see the Olympics, it just seems like a total, utter nightmare. Actually, you know, if they do it right, I remember when I was living in London and the Olympics were in London. And it was fine. Oh, really? Oh, it was like, I was like, oh, it was going to be a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:19:00 It was, you know, the way that they spread it out and then they... But doesn't London have a really good infrastructure with public transportation? Yeah, they have a great two. the tube you know they have yeah we don't have a tube but i think but we do have we do we do though and i think they will create like the rail system that we do have they're already like growing it i think by the time they get there a lot of the places that they're going to build or they're going to have will have that i don't know you know what i'm being positive i'm just i'm trying to be positive about everything it's you guys balance each other out i love it it's that's why it works
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Starting point is 00:22:42 Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing. Oh, yeah. And I was like, can I also hug them? I'm like, this f*** has no friends. This time around, we are, say it, Melissa. Should I?
Starting point is 00:22:59 Say it. Getting a little more better. Oh, finally. It's all the dressing room talk to, loved in season one all the things because aren't we all trying to get a little more better listen to more better on the iHeart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts brenda we we usually get right into this but because you're basically my bestie on the show we're just like talking about things that have nothing to do with you and i i know
Starting point is 00:23:30 we haven't seen each other so but let's uh let's get brenda focused. Brenda focused. Don't get Brenda focused. That's scary. I think that first I just want to like, we'll get this out of the way. Like we did our show. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Why don't you share with everybody, you know, who you play? Let's test it out on the podcast. Before we get into our press. Who you play and then what you hate most about yourself. Go. Oh, that's the easiest question of this whole podcast. So basically, I. I play to Jeannie Buses, to Kate's Jeannie Bus, I play sort of her right-hand woman, aka Best Friend, a version of Linda Rambus. My character is heavily based off of her. And it's really funny because I feel like she and I actually have a lot in common in real life. You both have two boys. We have a deep love for basketball. We are both tiny little brunettes who are very outspoken. And yeah, I feel like we, the same way that most friendships work,
Starting point is 00:24:35 we balance each other out. I think Allie's character is very type A, very on top of everything, and Ila is stepping into this sort of new role, and she's much more laid back about things. She has a very different perspective on, you know, this franchise and how it should be run, and it's the breadth of fresh air that this organization needed. And Ali's sort of just here to be her biggest supporter and be there for whatever that she needs. And also like to have helped fight off her brothers, which, by the way, Scotty MacArthur texted me the other day about this crazy L.A. trade because he knows that. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:25:15 I know. Crazy shit. I mean, there's a whole other podcast we could get into right now with Luca coming. I mean. Wait, you guys. I have a real love for basketball, like Oliver. I have a real love for sports. I'm a huge, huge Lakers, man.
Starting point is 00:25:29 No, you don't understand. I want to start a TikTok that is just Brenda's take. It's called Brenda's Take. and it's on things like this where I ask her about like, you know, like today we're going to get Brenda's take on the Los Angeles Lakers trade.
Starting point is 00:25:45 Go. She's like, it's crazy. Before we move forward with the show, let me get your take. This trade was so out of left field and so crazy. Do you think that there's something underneath all of this
Starting point is 00:26:01 that may be revealed, may not be revealed as to why Cuban and sort of said, you know, we're going to get rid of him. Well, apparently Cubans come out and said that he had no, he's a minority owner now. So he, this is the first year of the new ownership. So maybe I personally think that, obviously, Dallas has always been built on defense. I think, you know, they're talking about the whole conditioning issue with Luca. I'm sure that's a big issue.
Starting point is 00:26:26 I mean, he-70 pounds, drinking beer, right. But also, AD, like, he's, the hard thing is, AD is one of my favorite Lakers of this sort of iteration. He's incredible, obviously, but he's also very injury-prone. The craziest thing for me is he's been having one of the best years he's had in a while, and he's healthy, which is really hard, but also, you know, he's 32. I think the Lakers are starting, like, the same way with the Waves, they never do a full rebuild. They always, like, rebuild on the go.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And the Waves is our team. Yes, our team on the show. It's, you know, and with LeBron, he's also getting older. I think we need to start looking at this sort of next phase. of the Lakers. Oh, for sure, for sure. I'm not even talking about the Lakers. They got Luca.
Starting point is 00:27:10 Oh, yeah. I'm like, I'm thrilled. We got Luca and Puka in L.A. I'm stoked. This is ridiculous. I'm saying for Dallas, you know, I don't know what they're thinking. But at the same time, you're right.
Starting point is 00:27:20 Look, you know, first of all, with Luke, you know, when they went to the finals, you know, they were still, I think they had the eighth best defense in the lead. So they were not lacking defense. Luca does not play defense. We know that. You know, AD is a fucking sick to. fredible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Yeah. So maybe it works out for them, but they've lost so much juice without Luke being there. But maybe Kyrie and A.D., you know. Because honestly, that, to be honest, if you just look at the roster they have on paper, Adi will slide in there. Adi hates being a center. He hates being the big man because that's not what he plays. And in Dallas, they have big men there. So he gets to fit in a slot where he feels more comfortable. Like, I feel like in L.A., he hated being the big man. But now for L.A., we have no defense and we have no size.
Starting point is 00:28:03 Max Christy was such a great defensive player and losing him was also really hard because for us I feel like we have no defense now. So now everybody understands why she is my right hand. Can you believe Brenda's that you are such a sport like you should have your own sports show.
Starting point is 00:28:25 I love sports. Between basketball and football, it's sort of like it runs my life. The thing that was so fun about working on this show was Dave Stassen and Ike Barron Holtz who are, like, you know, creators and our show, Dave was our showrunner, they also love sports a lot. And when I first sat down with them to sort of have a meeting about the show and Mindy, we basically talked about sports for the first like half hour because I was like,
Starting point is 00:28:47 this is my love. All Chicago shit. Oh, yeah. Of course. All Chicago. Brenda would walk in, it doesn't matter what sport, but Brenda would walk in and be like, guys, did you see the trade? Can you believe it? Like every, like every, at least once a week, they'd be like, Like, did you, she'd be like, did you hear about this? Can you believe it? They're like, what are you talking about? She goes, cricket, India. Did you see what happened?
Starting point is 00:29:10 Did you not see that? This is the first time, I think, like, in my career that I've been able to sort of blend to things that I really, really love. And being able to also, you know, get to know, Jeannie and, you know, the Rambert, Jordan Rambas, Linda Son, was a very, you know, he was a big voice in there. He would come visit. They've been really, really wonderful. And it's been nice to sort of get this also inside track on the Lakers, which is really, it's really fun.
Starting point is 00:29:39 Oh, that's the coolest part. Oh, believe me. And, yeah, I think it was just, it was such a fun camaraderie, especially on that set, because everyone had a real passion for what we were doing. And also, we were making such a fun show. I always, like, say to everyone that this was a show that I would come back, even after, like, a crazy 12, 14-hour days of shooting night shoots or something crazy. We laughed so much And we had such a good time Making the show
Starting point is 00:30:06 I feel like I went in every day And I was like, poor Kate I'd be like oh my God Kate would be putting me through therapy Giving me advice about parenting My kids like me and my partner Every day in between our takes I'm like oh my God so anyway
Starting point is 00:30:18 Who should I be going to Kate like read my aura Did my numbers did my astrology It was the best I know it makes sense Scotty Who's a great friend of mine as well Like dude Sometimes I just want to sit in the cast here
Starting point is 00:30:29 And bullshit about nothing and your sister would all of a sudden say, so, you know, that story told about your father's really sad. Like, let's get into the psychology at this. He's like, I don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. That's not true. He's lying.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Hold on, Brenda, Brenner, let me ask you a quick question. So did you audition for this? No, I, like, I'm shocked. No, I had a meeting with Mindy and Dave and Ike. Yes. Okay. So why I'm asking that is because being such a huge fucking Lakers fan, this show coming about,
Starting point is 00:30:59 and you coming across your desk and reading it, is it like, oh, my God, holy fuck. I mean, this is kind of the holy grail in a sense. Like, I get to be a part of this organization in a way. It excited me in a way that I hadn't, you can't get, like, again, it was the first script that I'd read that had two of my favorite things. I was like, I get to do and play pretend in a world that I actually wish I could be in. And also, when I sat down with Mindy, Ike, and Dave, I was nervous because the last couple shows about these basketball teams, like the Clippers and the Lakers, I watched them.
Starting point is 00:31:36 I was excited about them. And I was, you know, I was disappointed because I'm such a, like a big basketball fan. And when I read this, I went, oh, this is not about, this is just a setting for these characters and all these relationships. It's not necessarily about basketball. And that's what I loved. And so even though it gets a sort of play. with some real life situations that have sort of happened in these people's lives and these
Starting point is 00:32:01 situations, it's not, it's just a vehicle for these really fun, silly people, and that's sort of like found, like, family. And so for me, that's what really sold it for me. I was like, oh, it's not, I'm not going to be worried about, you know, doing, you know, a disservice to the Lakers organization or people's stories. And I think that for me was kind of like, it took the pressure off. And because I was worried, I was like, oh, my God, if this seemed about the Lakers, like, this is scary. Like, I, I'm not Linda Rambis. And they're like, no, no, no, it's just Louly. And I was like, all right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then it freaking told me Kate Hudson's in it. And I was like, I, I could possibly work with Kate Hudson. All right you
Starting point is 00:32:40 don't understand. Kate knows this. Sometimes I'd be in a scene. I'd be in a scene and I'd be like, I'm doing a scene with Kate Hudson. What is my life? Like, one of the craziest moments was when Kate was like, FaceTiming. She was like, oh wait, Brenda, wait, I want you I was like, Mama, I want you to meet Brenda who plays my best. I was like, I needed a second before I get on a FaceTime with a Goldie freaking Han. Are you certain? Don't put me on the spot like this. I'm Jorge Ramos.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers. were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith.
Starting point is 00:33:36 But there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergeneration conversation, public. Listen to The Moment
Starting point is 00:33:59 with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's your favorite Jersey girl, Gia Judea Ace. Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I share my story. This week, I'm sitting down with Vanderpump Roll Star, Sheena Shea.
Starting point is 00:34:18 I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest. There will be an occasional text one way or the other from me to Ariane. Maybe a happy birthday from Ariana to me. I think the last time I talked to Tom, it was like, congrats on America's Got Talent. This is a combo you don't want to miss. Listen to Casual Chaos on the IHeart Radio app,
Starting point is 00:34:39 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It may look different, but Native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a hundred of years.
Starting point is 00:35:02 You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world,
Starting point is 00:35:30 influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, it's Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumerro, and this is More Better. We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you. Your thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals. And we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice and hot takes. God, that sucks so hard, though. I'm so sorry.
Starting point is 00:35:59 Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for funsies? Yeah. We had so much fun last season, laughing, crying, talking to some new and old friends. Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing. Oh, yeah. And I was like, can I also hug them? I'm like, this f*** has no.
Starting point is 00:36:22 And this time around, we are... Say it, Melissa. Should I? Say it. Getting a little more better. Oh, finally. It's all the dressing room talk you loved in season one. All the things.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Because aren't we all trying to get a little more better? Listen to more better on the Iheart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Brenda, before we move on, I have a very, very controversial question to ask. you. So you're telling me that you did not like Showtime. No. You didn't like it. I didn't, I didn't love it. And maybe here's a thing. There are parts of it that I thought were really interesting, but I don't know. I couldn't get into it. And I couldn't tell you why, I couldn't really, the breaking of the fourth wall by like so many different characters threw me off. I think that was a part that kind of bugged me. I mean, it's a really well-made show. The actors were great.
Starting point is 00:37:21 It just, you know, I couldn't get into it. I wanted to, but I just couldn't. And then I didn't even watch Clipped. A little over stylized, maybe, right? Yeah. And I think also being such a big growing up as a Laker fan, being in L.A., there's some parts of it where I'm like, when you take creative liberties, it like throws me up.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I'm like, wait a second. I was going to say it's probably more because some of that stuff really, you know so much. You're probably like, that didn't really happen. I was like, that couldn't be it. Yeah. And so I couldn't really put my finger on it, but I just, I couldn't get into it. I wanted to.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Like, I sat through the entire season going, okay, the next episode will get me in. I mean, they got me to watch the entire season. I just, did you like it? I did. So real quick, and then we'll move on. But I was thrown off at first by the over stylization of it, by the breaking of the fourth wall. But then, because I'm such a huge Lakers fan, I did get into it. I thought the acting was really spot on, really good, and really fun to watch.
Starting point is 00:38:21 Ronnie Riley. The kid who played magic was amazing. Everyone was really good. So it was entertaining to watch. And yes, there were crazy liberties taken. But at the same time, you know, when, like this news conferences, if you watch back the real ones versus sort of the press conference, it's word for word and verbatim, sort of how certain things went down. You know what I mean? I think what's really fun about what Brenda was saying about Running Point, which is what was so fun. And what Jeannie really wanted, like, her and original concept was like, my life is a comedy. Like, in her mind, she's like, the comedic version of this would be a really fun show. And instead of like, so there's things in it that are based upon. And I love that she is that self-deprecating and has that kind of sense of humor that she sort of handed this to Mindy to say, have fun with this. because it's so wild, you know, her life story is so wild and the family is so nuts and there's so much, there's so much to play on. And so it kind of, like you said, it became,
Starting point is 00:39:33 the show isn't really about basketball. The show is about a family dynamic. Yeah. Look, I don't want to talk about Jeannie. It makes me sad because she completely, she ghosted me and I don't know why. She was on my podcast years ago. We became. friends, you know, texting about Lakers, this and that and emails. And it was really sweet and nice. And then it's been a year, however, nothing. Yeah. Some people have to clean out, Ollie, and you were in her clean out, you know? DEMs, I can see that she's seen the DM and has not put me back. Like, I don't know what I did. Wait, I'm learning that Oliver has been stalking Jeannie Best right now. Jeannie. What did I do? I, I, I, she's like this exactly.
Starting point is 00:40:20 this exactly you're doing it you're doing it right now well one day one day one day she's so wonderful well the funny thing
Starting point is 00:40:31 she's awesome I was like oh my God she's the best she's the greatest then man and then that so is Linda Rambas the whole listen
Starting point is 00:40:39 they're wonderful it's also really amazing to see women at the helm of such a large organization and yeah and and like just be like there's nothing like I feel like it's a very unassuming it's unassuming leadership in the way like Jeannie's not some like you know boisterous like she's not like her dad no she's real shy and you know and and like open and meaning like you know warm and like we'll meet you at Laker games and bring walk you in like she's so person like she's a human yeah and and
Starting point is 00:41:19 One of the funny things that when we were at the game, and I was like, we have to go to a game together. It was so crazy. I sat here and I was like, this is what our characters, this is like, I was talking to Jordan. I was like, this is what you guys do every home game. This is a part of your job. You come to Laker games. This is your job. Like how crazy and how fun.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Because the thing that I really loved about like kind of getting to know every, like, you know, Linda and Jeannie's story was like, you know, Jordan was telling me that like in the, Lakers franchise. Jordan is Jordan Rambus. Oh, Jordan Rambus, yes. Linda's son. Linda's son, as a producer on Running Point, was like, you know, in the organization, like Kurt Rambus, who was also a Laker and our previous, like a head coach, like, no, no, he's not, like Linda's not known as Kurt Rambus's wife. No, no, people know him as like, Kurt will walk and like, oh, you're Linda Rambus's husband. It's like, because that's how much these women, how important and they are to this organization that her, you know, her husband who is a, you know, a very accomplished player and head coach is known as her husband. And I was like, I love that.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Can I make an observation just the way that you guys have been saying the title of your show? Yeah. I'm not sure the inflection is right unless you've been coached to say this because you're saying running point instead of running point. Yeah, because running point is obviously you're a point guard, you're running point. But you guys are emphasizing the running, running point. It's more running point. Are you trying to tell us how to promote our show? Am I wrong, Brenda?
Starting point is 00:42:55 No, you're not. Hold on a second. We can come to this realization ourselves, Oliver. We don't need you. But it's not running point because it's like, what does that mean? What is a running point? But running point has. Running point.
Starting point is 00:43:10 We've always talked about this. Yeah. Running point is what it means. Yes. I'm, you know, running point. You're a running point. Yes. But it's got to be running point, not running point.
Starting point is 00:43:21 You can't go down on the point. When we do our press junket next week, Oliver, I'm just going to let you know. I'm going to hit point so hard. And every single time this is something like I'm crazy. I'm going to be like, Oliver Hudson told me that I have to hit points. Yeah, because you're running point. He said there was something wrong with my inflection. Every time I'm like, so I'm, I'm running a song.
Starting point is 00:43:39 I play Allie from running point. Slacked like a motherfucker. That's right. But keep an eye on for my sister because she'll revert back to running point. Now she's going to do it on purpose. You know this. Oliver, you know she's going to now do it on purpose. I love Brenda so much. We're going to do two parts to this. So stay tuned for the second part where we really, really get into Brenda and her life story and all the good stuff. We got real pop culture on this one, Ollie. I'm proud of us.
Starting point is 00:44:10 I know. We're poppy. Hey, poppy. Hey, it's your favorite jersey girl, Gia Judice. Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I share my story. This week, I'm sitting down with Vanderpump Rural Star, Sheena Shea. I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest. There will be an occasional text, one way or the other, from me to Ariana. Maybe a happy birthday from Ariana to me.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I think the last time I talked to Tom, it was like, Congrats on America's Got Talent. This is a combo you don't want to miss. Listen to Casual Chaos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, it's Jemma Spag, host of the Psychology of Your 20s. This September at the Psychology of Your 20s, we're breaking down the very interesting ways psychology applies to real life, like why we crave external validation. I find it so interesting that we are so quick to believe others' judgments of us and not
Starting point is 00:45:06 our own judgment of ourselves. So according to this study, not being liked actually creates similar pain levels as real-life physical pain. I'll learn more about the psychology of everyday life and, of course, your 20s. This September, listen to the psychology of your 20s on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace.
Starting point is 00:45:30 You discover the depths of your mother's illness. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the powerful stories I'll be mining on our upcoming 12th season of Family Secrets. We continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's start with a quick puzzle. The answer is Ken Jennings' appearance on The Puzzler with AJ Jacobs. The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land? Jeopardy Truthers believe in...
Starting point is 00:46:12 I guess they would be conspiracy theorists. That's right. They gave you the answers and you still blew it. The Puzzler. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.

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