Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Song Sung Hugh!

Episode Date: December 22, 2025

Guys, it's Hugh Jackman!   Kate’s "Song Sung Blue" leading man opens up to our favorite Hudsons about his own sibling revelry, AND rivalry!Plus, why Hugh's dad worried he'd have a hard time as an actor, why he makes a compassionate crew member stand beside the camera, and how he clawed his way into playing Wolverine! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I know. We should take it slow with just ordinary people. We know. Listen to Nora Jones is playing along on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings.

A sibling revelry No, no Sibling reverie Don't do that with your mouth Sibling Revelry That's good Olly, have you done

Any Christmas shopping A little bit Oh, I'm so behind Well you're a very, very busy person so it's understandable. I sent you a text yesterday because you want to know what I want and then I said I'm going to send but you're not going to like any of it. I didn't even look at it. I didn't send it. Oh, well then send it to me. No, because I need a response before I send it. Why won't I like it? Here's the thing. Here's how it usually works with you in Christmas. It's like,

what do you want? And then I text you some things and you're like, that's boring. I'm not doing that. And I'm like, okay. No, yeah, no. That's because you're like, I want a reel. I want like a 5-600, like deep water reel. I want a transducer, you know. That's a transducer. Don't worry about it.

Sounds like a sex story. I'm like, it sounds like something to help you, like, take a do it. That's a good. I don't like that. I know. I'm not putting it on there. I don't even care. I'm not getting it for you.

I told you. This is why don't send these things. No, really, what is a transducer? A transducer is something that goes on the bottom of your boat. I already have one. It's what reads a sonar. It's what reads the bottom and it reads fish. It's still, there's still time.

Oh, really? And this transducer specifically, there's different frequencies, and this is the better one that I want to put on my boat. So it reads the bottom and it reads targets better. No, no, no. But there's another thing that's 10 grand that I'll put on there, too. What is it? It's called the seakeeper.

Oh, Oliver. And the seakeeper is what replaces the trim tabs on your boat, and it stabilizes the boat so it doesn't bounce. That sounds like something for your safety. That sounds good. Oh, it for sure is. Yeah. I like that one. It's definitely for safety.

A seekeeper. I also like, if I got you a seakeeper, it's like, I am your seatkeeper. I guess so. Ollie, is this too early for you? I know we're waiting on Hugh Jacques Mall. Well, while we wait, we just need to talk about the whirlwind that you have been on. Miss fucking Golden Globe nominee. You know what I think they should do?

You know, they have like the actors, like the siblings. You said that was such like hostility. Why don't you say, you, why don't you say, you should say is like you're excited. No, you know I am excited for you. I was the first one to call you in the morning. I'm extremely excited.

The only thing I'm concerned about is like, who do you invite? Because you only have one table. I don't have a table. I have one date. That's it. Yeah. Oh, that sucks.

Well, maybe I can go to the party afterwards. Definitely coming to the party. It'll be a fun night. Yes. Anyway, Whirlwind. You barely have a chance to breathe, press, playing the game, doing your thing. It's been wild. And, you know, it's been really interesting and important because this movie is so good

and I really want people to see it in the theater, you know? And our industry has been very hard to predict lately when it comes to theatrical releases. And this is one of those movies that you're like, oh, come on, I really wanted to have great success so people make movies like this. Mm-hmm. You know, it kind of has that, you know, touchstone, like old touchstone movies,

things like terms of endearment or movies like moonstruck. And it kind of gives you that feeling like extraordinary circumstances, real life, but you are like, entertained and then you go through the gamut of yeah 100% I agree it's definitely a throwback when I saw it that was the first thing that came into my mind is is that we don't Hollywood doesn't make these movies anymore you know I mean and they need to be made because they feel good

like you said it's the gambit of emotion it's fun it's sexy it's extremely well-performed they're singing you know and then for me there is tragedy no doubt but But it's not heavy-handed. You know what I mean? There's light within it. You know that the outcome is going to sort of make you smile and cry at the same time. Yeah. And that's what's special about it.

It's the Cameron Crow word, happy, sad. Like life, like, life is just happy, sad. Like, one can't really exist without the other. And in order to creatively hit that. that sweet spot's actually a really hard thing to do, you know, and, and Craig did such a good job of threading that, you know, needle and walking that line of not ever getting too sentimental either, you know, it's not cynical. There's like not an ounce of cynicism, cynicism in this film. It's very pure of heart, and yet it doesn't get too sentimental. Like you want to, when you're done

watching it, you're like, I just want to do the things that I love to do and I want to be with my family and, you know, and I want to like live a good life. I have a question for you because you've been interviewed for the last two months and had to say the same things over and over again. We know how that works. But I bet you haven't been asked this. What does Hugh Jackman smell like because you were very close to him the whole movie I wish he was here

like does he have a scent is it woodsy is it floral that's a really good question it is kind of more it's not woodsy it is more floral it's more like crisp

it's like a clean it's like it's like grass. It's like fresh cut grass. Oh, I like that. I can smell it right now. I can't wait till we get to tell him. Oh, that's so funny. That is what I would say his smell is like, isn't that funny? Oh, let's do this with all my co-stars. I was about to, I was going to go there next. I'm like, it's funny because everyone does have some sort of a scent. Yeah. Like, Leconi is much deeper. it's much more like musky like wood woodsy it's in the earth yeah yeah it's like it's like dirt it's like it's like it's like it's like it's like amber dirt

hmm that's kind of good though too i don't know amber's a little like powdery i think maybe it would be more like it would be like more of the petuli dirt yeah yeah yeah yeah But, like, good dirt, like that, like, the kind of dirt that grows really great vegetables. Exactly. It's so funny. They really do. I'm trying to think of, like, I could do the whole cast of running point at this point. Oh, I know. Oh, God.

Well, who should we start with? It's so funny. Justin Thoreau is, is like Palosanto. What is the wood? It's like the candle? No, he's like, he's like not incense. He's like the wood, you know, Palo Santo. Oh, right.

It's like, it's like that meets like a little bit of like a citrus, like high note. Oh, okay. But who's like a vetivere, you know, that like sort of. of deep sort of vetivir French. Well, that's citrus, isn't it? Yeah, I thought. Like, he, he reminded me of a vetivir. Hugh?

Thoreau. No. No. He's more like fig. Fig. What about, what about Aik Baranholtz? Oh, Ike is like, it's like brisk. Ha!

Hi. But I'm not feeling groovy. Oh, is that what you're singing? Got to watch my powers growing. So looking for love and I'm feeling groovy. When I'm feeling blue. I know. All I got to do is take a look at you.

Who is that? Then I'm not so blue. That's Phil Collins. That's right. Who matter? Who is quicker to song? Oliver or Kate? Who going around the house?

Who's singing more? Well, Kate, I don't know. Probably Kay, but I do like to sing. It makes me feel good. It's probably me. But all it does weird, like, sounds. I do some good, like, you know, vocal gymnastics that a lot of that can't do. Well, Hugh, I want to start this whole thing off by saying that before you came on,

I ask Kate a very poignant question because I know that you guys get a thousand of the same questions every single day when you're doing these press junkets, right? But I ask Kate, what does Hugh Jackman smell like? Because she's with you all the time through the sweaty moments, through the tender moments. And, you know, she gave a very nice answer. So why don't you, why don't you tell them what you smells like? I said. Yeah.

And then I thought, well, this is a really fun thing. to do with any co-star i feel like you i said like grass like freshly cut grass i'll i wow you like that i mean first of all i love that smell i thought you meant like grass that's how i smell that is not me i mean in the past maybe it's not me now um that was the smell Well, there's been some funk in some points, and there's, uh. But, but even in those moments, you're always kind of, there's like a freshness. It's tiny. Oh.

Yeah, you're, you've got to. And then we went into other co-stars. Um, and then even the guys, even the people that I work with on running point and started to get weird. Well, the Ike Barron, the, Ike Barronhold's smell was spot on. She said, like, it's a Michelin star brisket. With some caramelized onions. that's very edible I'll take that

Hugh usually when we do our podcast this is so fun now I get to interview we get to interview we talk mostly about family right you know we like we break down like how people grew up and like what their childhood

was like and actually you have such a fascinating childhood you are one of how many kids so six my from mom and dad I was the youngest of five my mom remarried and had Rowan when I was 11

and she so my I guess officially my half sister but she's my sister so six but she grew up in England so for the probably for the purpose of this like the growing up most of my time was I was the youngest of five

I hated being the youngest you did hated why my whole life felt like everyone else was allowed to do stuff that I wasn't allowed to do. I was, and my dad was very regimented, so, you know, everyone got the same, like at this age, your bedtime is 7.30, then at this age, it's 8, and this is how much money you get when you're six, like, you get 15 cents pocket money, and you get 20 when you, right, all of that.

So my whole life, everyone's getting more than me or staying up later than me. Now, I'm sick, so I don't care. like, and I say, oh, in a year you'll get to, like, I don't care. I'm going to go to bed and you're all watching $6 million man on Sunday night. Mm-hmm. And I got to go to bed. I used to hate it. I used to think.

It's actually interesting because you don't get to be a part of the sort of family affair or the family get-togethers when it is past your bedtime and you're the little one. So everyone else is up except for you. Everyone else assumes I had the plumb, the pole position, being youngest. And I can look back now and see, like, My dad in particular got so soft by the end. I mean, we never did one holiday that wasn't like a camping holiday. But once the others were off, I think he's probably like, I got a little extra cash.

When we went to like the Great Barrier Reef and we stayed, I got like a room. Me and my brother shared like a hotel, like a bungalow on the beach. And all my older brothers and sisters, like we went to Bali. Like we went on an overseas trip. Yeah. None of my older brothers and sisters got any of that. What is the age different? So, like, your oldest?

We basically, for school, it was two years. But I think, like, me and my next brother, I was like, Zoe, basically eight years older. Okay. So within eight years. Zoe, Ann, Sonia, Ralph, Hugh. And we were at school two years apart, although my brother ended up repeating a year, so he was only a year older. But he was only 17 months older than me. And he was the best man in my wedding, but we were at each other the whole time.

I was, I was terrified of my brother because he was just, even when I was like a foot taller than him, I was still scared of it. He totally, yeah, totally had it over me. Hence I had to become Wolverine. That was his. I remember, do you remember that Michael, remember the last dance and Michael Jordan saying, what was the turning point in your career? And he goes, beating my brother. It was just all about beating my brother. That's where it starts.

I remember having, wow, Ralphie doesn't want to be saying this. I remember saying a winning a table tennis competition at a beach holiday. And in the final, I'd be my brother. And I'd never really beaten him. It was always a little better than me, a little older than me. And I got a beer can with all the ring pools were put together. But that was wrapped around the beer can. I had that.

I still have it to this day. Like, there's nothing I've. won. No, nothing. I can win an Oscar. It would be behind that beer again. Because it was huge, although I remember thinking, are you sure you want to win this? Because you're going to pay for it. Like he's going to punish you for beating him. Did he? No, I don't think you did. No, I'm sure I exaggerated it at all. Were you a competitive family just generally? Yeah. Very. Very. In sports, athletics and everything. The boys, yes. My sister's not so much. Zoe, my oldest is not. Two sisters, three boys? Yeah, and then Roman, it's another

girl. So we're now three and three. But I grew up with, yeah, two sisters, three boys. Oh my gosh. That's such a big family. It was huge. Ooh, December, man. This is one of my favorite months. My favorite winter month for sure. Christmas is coming. And it's such a special month. It's when my family and I really, really slow down, celebrate being together. We've been talking about heading to Japan, of all places. My sons are obsessed with anime.

They want to go to Japan. So we're thinking about it. We are in Colorado. There's no doubt. But after Colorado, we are thinking about Japan. The kids are very excited about skiing Hokkaido, which is incredible snow. I've seen it all over social media. I've been looking at videos, exploring Tokyo's neighborhoods, and eating their weight in a ramen.

Trips like that are truly unforgettable. And what makes it even better is staying at a place on Airbnb where you can get that authentic local feel. It's not just about the sites. It's about living the experience together. And if you're traveling this holiday season, it is a perfect time to think about hosting your own home on Airbnb. The best part is you don't have to do it all by yourself.

With Airbnb's co-host network, you can hire a local co-host to manage everything. While you're away, find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is me being a part of developing the profile of this beautiful finished product. With every sip, you get a little something different. Visit Gentleman's Cut Bourbon.com or your nearest Total Wines or Bevmo. This message is intended for audiences 21 and older.

Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, Boone County, Kentucky. For more on Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, please visit gentlemen's cut bourbon.com. Please enjoy responsibly. Who would you call if the unthinkable happened? I just fell and started screaming. If you lost someone you loved in the most horrific way. I said through you got 22 times. The police, right?

But what if the person you're supposed to go to for help is the one you're the most afraid of? This dude is the devil. He's a snake. He'll hurt you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I got you. I'm Nikki Richardson. And this is The Girlfriends, Untouchable. Detective Roger Golubski spent decades intimidating and sexually abusing black women across Kansas City, using his police badge to scare them into silence.

This is the story of a detective who seemed above the law until we came together to take him down. I told Roger Galoopsky, I said, you're going to see my face till the day that you die. Listen to the Girlfriends Untouchable on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us. Two brothers, one devout household, two radically different paths. Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest-ranking law enforcement officers in Texas. 32 years, total law enforcement experience.

But his brother Larry, he stayed behind. and built an entirely different legacy. He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do. You're going to push that line for the cause? Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind

and uncover secrets he never saw coming. My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about. Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot. The Brothers Ortiz is a gripping true story about faith, family, and how two lives can drift so far apart and collide in the most devastating way. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, everybody, it's Chuck and Josh from the Stuff You Should Know podcast, and it's that time of year again when we knuckle down to do our annual holiday episodes. We collected our best past classic holiday episodes and compiled them into a 12 days of Christmas toys playlist that the whole family can enjoy. That's right. Maybe you missed it the first time we detailed the history of beanie babies, Monopoly, or yo-yo's, and a whole lot more. So listen to the 12 Days of Christmas Toys playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Who was the, in the dynamic, who is the one that you would like tell your secrets?

to like or that you would go to if you needed like you know advice secrets was ralph he was the next brother up but we went through periods of like he's the last person i would tell but ultimately yeah and then it was probably my brother ian if i needed advice so my my elder sister to give you some context so mom when my mom my dad split so my first two years almost first first a year and a half, well, I was living with another family because my mom was not very well. And I'm speaking about it now because I've spoken about it before, but I want to be mindful of her, but she was just not doing great. And so I was the youngest, and there were four kids at home. So I stayed with my godparents. I came back. I was probably two. And between two and

eight, I was at home. And then my mom and dad divorced, my mom moved back to England. So I was raised from eight by my, really, I guess, by my dad and my siblings. And my, why am I telling you this a long way around? Sorry, Kate knows. I can see her glazing over sometimes, like, at a chunk. It's like, I see you going, dude, we have four minutes. And we have him to start talking about the movie. And we're three minutes in.

No, Hugh, you guys are two peas in a pod. Sometimes, Kate will go on these rants where I have to put it through like Google filter because I'm like what is she saying here like how do I oh no I compliment her all the time I'm like you're on point I need real time AI to like understand what she's saying okay so so the the point of that story eight was my elder sister Zoe moved to England to go back to England where my mom was when she was 1819 so I would have been 10 right so I'm very close with my sister Zoe and my sister sonya sonya she was left with just a house of men i think in australia and australia in the 70s 80s pretty much uh you know a little old school so she was just has that shifted and changed

it's always been the stereotype of course you know but has that it has it's changed yeah it's changed a lot although i you know i still think there's remnants of it you know my mate um kate knows my best mate, Gus, runs a foundation called Gotcha for Life, which was really based around the epidemic of male suicide in Australia. And a lot of that's got to do with this notion that you don't ask for help. Just get on with it, mate. What do you mean you got a therapist? Just not good enough to hang with your mates at the pub? Like, you're going to have chat with your mates. There's still a little bit of that, I think, that's sort of baked in a little bit, but it's, it's changed thankfully a lot. Now, who in your family was creative?

huh like who is the the did you come from any artist did you have any aunts or uncles or grandparents like that were in the arts yeah my great aunt was apparently on the stage in the west end in london um my mom was is incredibly creative my father was an accountant and his brother michael i loved like it was a teacher and just full of life like oh God Kate you would have loved it he was very your vibe he would have fit in with your family your mom would have said

Michael Jackman ah we want him around all the time he was just all you would hear he lived in France he married Claudine in France and he would hear in the morning you're waking up and you just hear this everyone's a winner that was like sister

and he would come in just completely naked like come around let's go just go and jump in the leg full of being full of life. He had creativity. My mom, incredibly creative, creative, creative. Every bone in a body is creative. And in another generation, would probably have been an actor or something. Then my dad also, who I thought was really not. I've had people say to me, he was the most creative accountant. He was the maverick. He wanted to head the crazy idea, which is interesting. Then in my family, Zoe,

amazing. She's a fiddle player. She plays mandolin. She's a chef. She can do needlepoint growing up as always she was making things. Then Ian, my brother Ian, Rhodes Scholar, very, very eminent judge. Like, I guess our equivalent of a Supreme Court judge and, you know, yeah. And but I remember him at school like he was the best actor I'd ever seen but he was like yeah I'm not going to do that he was anything he did he was great at my sisters sonya dancer actor singer did everything my brother ralph also brilliant actor uh did and and me so he was always there it's interesting because you said you also grew up you know sort of an rigid your dad was a bit rigid right which i'm assuming meant that he was a bit strict very so it's funny

squaring that with creativity because usually when someone is when you're when you're when you're strict and you're holding anyone someone back yet they don't have that freedom to create unless you're rebelling against it somehow but i mean i can remember him my whole life saying stop singing stop whistling it's annoying so there was that but i was always in the school play i was always doing something he was driving me into rehearsal he would take me to every theater show and he would take me to the movies. My standard gift every year for my dad was a subscription to the Sydney Theatre Company so I could see Tim Play. Like he, I think for my dad, it was, if I'm, if I'm right, I think he was like the arts are really important part of life. He would take us to the

opera. He would take us to classical music. He would take us to the art gallery. He would, he would do all these things. I think in his mind, that's important, but that's, I think he was a bitch, I don't know how he was about us doing it as a job. I asked him once when I said, Dad, I want to be an actor. I think I want to go off to drama school and be an actor. And I was really nervous about his reaction. And he said to me, he goes, well, I think you have the talent, but I think you're too thin-skinned. So, yeah.

How'd that work out for you? How do you feel about that now? I think you're doing all right. I'm doing okay. But I understand what he was saying. have to get callous to grow that thick skin or were you... I just willfully ignore any place I might get at it.

I don't read any reviews. If there's comment, I know there's comments on my social media, but oh, no. People say, do you read it? I'm like, oh, no. What about, do you mind watching yourself? Don't love it. Yeah. No.

Although I'm getting better. I've sort of forced myself to do that. yeah when you do watch yourself do you are you hypercritical in the sense that you look at you're like oh that was pretty good and then you another scene you're like oh jesus what am i doing here i mean i'm often no i'm often like pleasantly surprised yeah i'm like that actually look better than it felt or i thought i stank up the entire set and i'm like it's okay yeah and then sometimes i can go oh that was good but also you know i can look at scenes even the other night of the premiere

was about the fifth time I was seen I'm like yeah not so great someone said to me my mate Gus goes how many

how many singing so I said I'm not sure but it's somewhere between 8 and 20 that I was like yeah oh that's so funny

what are you out of your mind what about you oh I'm my worst critic I think everything's awful do you yeah

but I'm always Also, like, it's like I weird, like I, I, I can't even decipher sometimes if it is, I just don't like watching myself. You ever watch the monitor on set? Yeah, you know, I actually like doing that because I see it more like coigraphy, right? So like, but not, not on serious things. I think like when we're trying to, sometimes when, especially in comedy, I like to see the frame because it helps. it's like dance you know yeah it's like if you know you're supposed to like trip in a certain place like when you see the frame you it kind of informs you know or how you do it you're like oh you know

you know what i can lean more into the fall or you know you do that really well by the way i see i was watching a running point i'm like oh you're so you're really good with that with like with like pratfall running into the glass. I just was thinking about something. Can I tell you a little? It's sort of a family. It's not so much sibling, but it's a cool little story for my past.

I don't know if I said that much, but I just remember when I was talking about my dad, I said I want to go to this school and I'd auditioned for this school. And it was three days a week. It was called the Actors Center in Sydney. And I got in. And I

was so excited and the next day I got the letter saying you're in and at the very bottom I said please show up with your check for three and a half thousand dollars and when I was growing up tertiary education all college all university anything was free and even my acting school was free because it was a state run thing

so I was like three and a half thousand I don't have three and five thousand I'd already done a university degree which my dad had helped me with And so I just ripped it up and put in the bin because I was like, I don't have three and a half grand. And there's no way I'm asking my dad for three and a half grand. Like I've just finished.

And the very next day, I got a check in the mail from my dad's mom, my grandmother's bequest for $3,500. I swear to you. No. I literally went. I was in shock and then I went to the waste paper basket and I picked out the scrumpled up acceptance thing just to check

I'm like what is happening and there was my train and so I went to my dad and I said dad remember I asked you about being an actor I said I got this money I was like from your mum's but will and I want to put it towards that

and he said to me I couldn't think of a better way if you to spend her money he was always about education. My dad was always like, do everything you can to be educated. Always. Like, just feel like you belong. Feel like you deserve to be there. Do whatever you need to do so that when you turn up for that interview or that audition or whatever it is, you go, oh yeah, no, I'm ready for this. That's amazing.

Oh, December. Man, this is one of my favorite months. My favorite winter month for sure. Christmas is coming and it's such a special month. It's when my family and I really, really slow down, celebrate being together. We've been talking about heading to Japan of all places. My sons are obsessed with anime. They want to go to Japan. So we're thinking about it. We are in Colorado. There's no doubt. But after Colorado, we are thinking about Japan. The kids are very excited about skiing Hokkaido, which is incredible snow. I've seen it all over social media. I've been looking at videos, exploring Tokyo's neighborhoods, and eating their weight in ramen. Trips like that are truly unforgettable.

And what makes it even better is staying at a place on Airbnb where you can get that authentic local feel. It's not just about the sites. It's about living the experience together. And if you're traveling this holiday season, it is a perfect time to think about hosting your own home on Airbnb. The best part is you don't have to do it all by yourself. With Airbnb's co-hosts network, you can hire a local co-host to manage everything. While you're away, find a co-host at Airbnb.ca. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut.

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He's a snake. He'll hurt you. I got you, I got you, I got you. I'm Nikki Richardson, and this is The Girlfriends, Untouchable. Detective Roger Galoopsky spent decades intimidating and sexually abusing black women across Kansas City, using his police badge to scare them into silence. This is the story of a detective who seemed above the law until we came together to take him down. I told Roger Galoopsky, I said, you're going to see my face to live.

the day that you die. Listen to the girlfriends, untouchable, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us. Two brothers, one devout household, two radically different paths. Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest-ranking law enforcement officers in Texas. 32 years, total law enforcement experience. But his brother Larry,

He stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy. He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do. You're going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind and uncover secrets he never saw coming. My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about. Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot.

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Hugh, was there a lot of laughter in your house? Like, was it boisterous? Or was it? Between the siblings, yes. Right. But when pops rolled around, everybody got more behaved. When I, yeah. It was sort of, I would say dinners, we always had to sit down dinner.

No one was allowed to answer the phone. If the phone rang during dinner, and you do not get up to answer it. Yeah, there was, we had Sunday morning breakfast together. We had to have a Sunday lunch together. Sunday lunch, we get a bit more boisterous because my dad would have a few. but always amongst the siblings there was so there was a lot of giggling that wasn't meant to be happening that was my main memory right and and camping holidays my dad was an accountant he was tight he had literally a five it was called a five man tent and there was five children and my

father so i'm sure my dad's like i got two kids they're young two of them are young that's one person fine that's all we need five man ten so i was at the top where I had to sleep in like a bend like that so I could go around the pole. And there was, so I remember a lot of laughter there. I do remember a lot of, and to this day when we get to get, oh, this is the coolest. Wow, I told you, man, I am talking a lot.

No, this is the place. I love it. Yeah. So in January, I won't tell you where. Me and my siblings are getting together for a week for the first time since my sister's wedding 25 years ago. No. You know what wedding's like.

There's 150 people. So technically we were together and there's a photo of all of us. But there's no partners. There's no children. And it was after my father passed away during COVID. He, we couldn't go to the funeral. Australia was so strict. So my brother, Ian, was there and gave the eulogy.

And I was like, it's just, feels we should be getting together and telling stories and laughing and getting drunk and remand crying and doing all that. So not long after that, I contact them all. I said, guys, let's get together. And they immediately jumped on and said, let's do it. That was four years ago. It's happening in January.

That's how far ahead we had to go. We were like, what at this date? I can't do it. This one, three could do it too. It's happening in January. I'm so excited. That's so exciting. That is special.

Now, I feel you guys do that. We, like, live that way. I wish we spent more time apart. Yeah, me too. I'm like, can't I go somewhere else for Christmas? You know, where I was. You know, I just did Kelly and Mark, which you're doing. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. We're doing a TV show without you. I was like, oh, I'm going to do all the talk you here. I go. I know. So we go. And in the commercial. break

Kelly just goes I want to be adopted by the whole family that whole family she told me a great story about you which you can edit out if you don't like but she said I remember Kay coming to my house and the first thing she did was like

can we have a tour and they're like oh yeah okay we're in the bathroom and she said and Kay just open up my medicine drawer Oliver's like 100% She said, and just looked up and went, oh, my God.

And literally, she said she got every cream. She goes, oh, is this one good or this? And she said, lathering herself all over her body with every cream that I had. Yes. That's so funny. That is genetic. That is Goldie Hawn. And that is Kate Hudson.

It's also very female. Sorry, but every girl who's listening to this understands. I mean, I guess, I guess, like, I guess I have a different version of us. story but but I guess like when you I love she had just her house is amazing and we're in one part of the house and I was like she was telling me all about the house and the kids and where the kids are and I was like I have to see her house um but we had like one of those great girly moments in her bathroom and yes I tried on like every cream I wanted to need to know everything you're doing on your face yeah you're used to having a lot of people around

Kate Hudson, on you? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You're very comfortable with it. Yes and no. Like, I feel like, I like my alone time. I think Oliver and I are actually really similar like that. Like, we're really good at being social and then we just go and do our whole, like our, we

hibernate in our, you know, areas. Yeah. As I get older too, I'm just becoming more antisocial. Yeah. I'm just, yeah, I'd rather just be home and reading or doing something else rather than going out. But then when I do go out, I go out. go out.

Do you that, have you got that Kate thing where you go out and then as the hours get later, the energy just goes up and up and up? Oh, yeah. Oh, God. I don't know two drinks. I can't do that. I don't even know what that is. I know too.

No clue. Kate does. If I get a little taste, I'm like, oh, we're out and about. All right. Let's see how long, let's see how late we can take this. That's fine. I get after it. I'm pretty good.

Like, I have that thing. where I pop right out of bed, too. Like, it doesn't, it could have been four hours of sleep, and I pop right out of bed. But then, like, then the next day, like, I'm the person that can sleep for 10 hours. Nice. You still have that ability. I don't. Oh, my gosh.

I'm up at seven every morning, no matter what. Same. Yeah. Peeing once or twice a night, Oliver? Where are you at? Twice, twice. Whoa, you're at twice a night? Well, once last night, I, the thing is, I love my water.

so I drink too much before bed. You know, I have to stop drinking water like an hour before bed and then I'll be all right. Yeah. But I'm, you know, sometimes he gets bad. Sometimes it's like four times. I'm like, what the fuck? Oh, here's a game changer. So an atchopath told me, like, stop at five or six.

Stop pounding it by five or six p.m. Yeah. Then just sit. You've had enough water. And now I'm down to one p. and nine. That's good. But I haven't drunk in 18 months. That's really helped my sleep a lot.

Amazing. You have one? I've had like two glasses of wine. Wow. Yeah. I have restless leg. I don't know if you look at that thing. RLS.

R runs in my family a lot. And so when you get overtired, it's this cycle. You get overtired so you get it, then you can't sleep, so you get more tired. So I just stopped drinking, not really because of that, but it's got so much better. Wow. RLS. Like, I feel like I have it sometimes because I just can't stop moving my legs. But how are you even diagnosed with something like that?

You know, if you got it. My mom, who has it pretty bad. She's like, she said it's like chewing aluminum foil. Oh. So it's, you know, I get it. Sometimes you just sit there in your leg or you're in bed and your leg jolts out of the blue. That's not it. Right.

It's like an internal itch that you can't get to unless you move. around so you get up and walk um or you eat if you eat so being the worst is on a plane if i'm on a night flight and there's no flap aired i don't thank goodness i can do that i'm just the guy walking up and down and it's just yeah oh wow yeah i mean when i pee at night too you know i like to sit down and just relax for like a while i think more men sit down and pee than they want to let on. Oh yeah. No, I've switched. I've switched. Dude, I think men, you know, no long, it's not macho anymore. America does not set you up for success. Right. I've really only, it's taking me a long time to notice this. There's a lot of water in the bowl to begin with.

Yes. Stand up in. Yeah, you're cleaning up or you're not. No. I, hey, if there's any time in the day to take a little rest, why not take a rest? So you just sit down and pee? It's great. Is it a heated seat now, all of a half fancy beginning. Then you got heated seed. Maybe that's what you should ask for for Christmas. A toto toilet. A toto. This reminds me of yesterday, we had to do, we went and did Eli Manning's podcast.

Oh, you did? And I had to sit and listen to the guys talk about how much they bench pressed. So this is very interesting. Their bench press number, your guys' number of peeing in the night. Australia is where you made, you know, hey. in the beginning, correct? And as an actor, and then did you then graduate to sort of the states? Or were you a known entity in Australia before anyone knew you in the States?

I sort of came out from drama school and did a TV series, which made me semi-known. And then I did a couple of things on stage, which sort of made me known. And I think I was semi-known. You know, I was no, I wasn't Nicole Kidman or, you know, I was there. and then went to England to do Oklahoma and that was a big hit over there and I auditioned for X-Men from that but it was X-Men was a massive game

it was like I was here and then massive Oh shit so it was literally Oklahoma to X-Men Right I auditioned with a poem in my hair I put on a baseball cap And I remember the casting agent going I don't think the baseball caps are great idea. I took it off. She was, I think it's a good idea. Well, do you remember your audition for X-Men? I mean,

you do? You do? Did you bring the voice already? Is that your interpretation? I think. I can't remember that, but I remember Adler. Here's one of the great bits of luck. I had to go in between, it was a Wednesday, and I had to go in between a matinee in the evening show. It was a long show. We came down at five. I had to, be back by seven. So I go into town. I ran into town and I'm waiting to do this audition. And I remember just going, they knew I had a show. And I was like, I've got to go. I've got to go. And finally I did the dick thing. I'd sort of someone left. I knocked on the door. I said, guys, I got to go. And they said, well, you're not next. I said, that's cool. I've got a show to do.

So I'm out. Thanks. All the best. But I was pissed. and didn't give a shit. And whatever nerves I had about doing it, I was just like, whatever. And I went in there, we're, of course, perfect Wolverine, right? So I went in with a, I didn't give a shit. Are we done?

We're fucking done. Let's go. And I walked out the door and they were like, we love this guy. Let's get him back. And then my next audition, I was like, what would you like? Right.

That's great. That's so funny. God. I just saw this really interesting like on you know Instagram where Jacob Allorty was talking about what his acting coach said

is the best thing to do in an acting I might butcher this but is when you go into an audition that you treat it like a crime scene have you heard this? No, I love this already though. He's like you treat it like a crime scene, but the blood's all over your body.

Mm-hmm. I think I've heard this. You're just, you're, you know, you walk in there and like you're entering the crime scene and it's so clearly, you're the one who did it. Oh, that's so cool. And I thought, what an interesting kind of thing to think about before you go into an audition. I had to trick myself in every audition. I had to do something, all these cast. scene directors to go, that's what he was doing. I had to do something to make me feel like

I was in my first rehearsal. Like I already got it that I was like my own. So I'd walk in and there'd be one chair and the camera's on the chair. And I'm going, I go yeah, I think I'm going to do this standing. And I think I might do it against that wall over there. And they're like, oh, we set up here. I go, no, I think that's important.

Somehow that made me feel like I had some ownership over it. Yeah, very cool. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's great. I think it's a great idea because you everyone, well, you walk in there with nerves and fear and you don't want to disappoint or make anyone, you know, shake anyone. So you're like, I'll do whatever you want, rather, but it's your time. What happens when a woman does that in an audition is they don't keep the, they tell her to leave the room immediately.

It's very true. Like, hmm, I'm going to change. I'm going to. Absolutely. It's different. I agree. Well, it was. Now it's all self-tapes. I got to like do one, I got to do one today. So if I did that to Aaron's the one filming me. Like, exterine, move out of the way. I mean, I could try to be...

I like that the self-tapes gets people, more people in the room. Like, you get to... I hate it. I hate it. But I really think, like, I love this,

the auditioning process when you had to get in your car and you'd drive across town and then you had another audition, like on another part of town and you'd get in the room and you'd sit in a waiting room with other actors and see them in the room.

That's such a huge part of what, of the beginning process. process of what we did. I mean, you, I mean, I guess you didn't really get that part because you did Wolverine. I mean, you just went. No, I'd have four or five years of auditioning for sure. Oh, you did.

Yeah. And the other thing, I don't know about you, okay, but on movies, I'm noticing a lot of people come in and have one scene or a day. They've just come and do a day seem more frightened than in the past because I think when you go into a casting agent and you have to do it then and you've been sitting out there, with 15 people, the pressure's there and you go on and it somehow replicates a little bit of what it feels like on set. All right, everyone quiet on set. So you might be like, oh, you know, you do it at home. It's like, oh, I'll do 600 takes. I'll do whatever. Oh, that's the problem with

the self-tape is you do it 7,000 takes. I'm there from like 6am to 6 p.m. for two scenes. And Aaron's like, can I go? I need to do things. I'm like, babe, no, one more, one more. Oh my God I always have so much compassion For the day players Who have to come in And do some scene And they never

Oh gosh I'm always like hey It's all going to be okay buddy Like you know Yeah You go fuck up Everyone fucks up It's okay

It's okay Oliver Oh Ooh December man This is one of my favorite months My favorite winter month for sure. Christmas is coming and it's such a special month. It's when my family and I really,

really slow down, celebrate being together. We've been talking about heading to Japan of all places. My sons are obsessed with anime. They want to go to Japan. So we're thinking about it. We are in Colorado. There's no doubt. But after Colorado, we are thinking about Japan. The kids are very excited about skiing Hokkaido, which is incredible snow. I've seen it all over social media. I've been looking at videos, exploring Tokyo's neighborhoods, and eating their weight in ramen. Trips like that are truly unforgettable. And what makes it even better is staying at a place on Airbnb where you can get that authentic local feel. It's not just about the sites.

It's about living the experience together. And if you're traveling this holiday season, it is a perfect time to think about hosting your own home on Airbnb. The best part is you don't have to do it all by yourself. With Airbnb's co-hosts network, you can hire a local co-host to manage everything. While you're away, find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut. I think what makes Gentleman's Cut different is me being a part of developing the profile of this beautiful finished product. With every sip, you get a little something different.

Visit Gentleman's Cut Bourbon.com or your nearest Total Wines or Bevmo. This message is intended for audiences 21 and older. Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, Boone County, Kentucky. For more on Gentleman's Cut Bourbon, please visit gentlemen's cuturban.com. Please enjoy responsibly. Who would you call if the unthinkable happened? I just fell and started screaming.

If you lost someone you loved in the most horrific way. I said through your two times. The police, right? But what if the person you're supposed to go to for help is the one you're the most afraid of? This dude is the devil. He's a snake. He'll hurt you.

I got you, I got you, I got you. I'm Nikki Richardson, and this is The Girlfriends, Untouchable. Detective Roger Goloopsky spent decades intimidating and sexually abusing black women across Kansas City, using his police badge to scare them into silence. This is the story of a detective who seemed above the law until we came together to take him down. I told Roger Goloopsky, I said, you're going to see my face to live. the day that you die. Listen to the girlfriends, untouchable,

on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us. Two brothers, one devout household, two radically different paths. Gabe Ortiz became one of the highest-ranking law enforcement officers in Texas. 32 years, total law enforcement experience.

But his brother Larry, He stayed behind and built an entirely different legacy. He was the head of this gang, and nobody was going to tell him what to do. He was going to push that line for the cause. Took us under his wing and showed us the game, as they call it. When Larry is murdered, Gabe is forced to confront the past he tried to leave behind and uncover secrets he never saw coming. My dad had a whole other life that we never knew about.

Like, my mom started screaming my dad's name, and I just heard one gunshot. The Brothers Ortiz is a gripping true story about faith, family, and how two lives can drift so far apart and collide in the most devastating way. Listen to the Brothers Ortiz on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, it's Chuck and Josh from the Stuff You Should Know podcast, and it's that time of year again when we knuckle down to do our annual holiday episodes. We collected our best past classic holiday episodes and compiled them into a 12 days of Christmas toys playlist that the whole family can enjoy. That's right. Maybe you missed it

the first time we detailed the history of beanie babies, Monopoly, or yo-yo's, and a whole lot more. So listen to the 12 Days of Christmas Toys playlist on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So, okay, Oliver, now you get to be our interviewer and ask us questions about our new movie. All right. They're a movie. Song-sung Bloom. First of all, who had the gig first? Me. Okay. Well, Craig came to me. Yeah. With the documentary. Oh, that's right. Yeah. To see if I was interested. And you 100% were. Yeah, yeah. He hadn't written the script yet. I was just like, it's the best story. I've got to do this.

Okay. Next question. Were there other iterations of actors, actresses that were supposed to come through? Oh, there were discussions. Yeah. There were. were discussions. There were sort of lists. There were discussions. It was the turning point was Michelle, you know, well, Mish ringing me watching Kate on CBS Sunday morning. And I just texted Craig that morning.

And I said, Claire's Kate's Claire. And he was like, oh my God, 100%. But he said it like that I've already had that in mind. Mm-hmm. Wow. And then Kate, when you first heard about the script, you knew Hugh was involved. I remember you said to me, I'm worried about Hugh that he's going to sing like he did in Greatest Showman. And that was one of your major concerns. Like, Dave, God. Which, by the way, is like my favorite movie. It was literally Oliver's favorite. Oh, my God. I think it's amazing. But when you read the script, were you immediately in? Yeah, yes.

Yeah, I mean, if I'm being really honest, I was a little worried about location because it was the first time that I was going to be away from the kids and in a long time. And we were going to shoot somewhere other than New York. And I was like, oh, God, I'm going to have to be away from Ronnie and what am I going to do?

Because it was like, you know, it was about two plus months. And I was having a little bit of anxiety around that, but I was always going to do the movie. you know there was no question that i wanted to make this movie i mean i actually had read the script i would slip the script before um i got offered the script so i had read it and sort of alley had like put our feelers out there oh nice yeah and and and had you guys known each other before this yeah we'd done a was it a one day reading yeah we did like a workshop like a workshop for um a a

Houdini musical. Yeah, and it was really fun. But it was one, you know, full day, pretty much. Yeah. It was long. And then other than that, only at like events, but we didn't really know. Although I met, but she has no memory of it.

Oh, really? At Goldie's house. I don't remember who took me, but it was early 2000s. And I remember going to, I think it was a Christmas holiday sort of party, although I don't remember any trees, so it can't have been,

because I'm sure it's just like a forest of Christmas trees in it. But I remember being in the kitchen. My memory is like as a kitchen adjunct to the kitchen, which feels like a living room, and Kate walked in, and she, on fire. Just like, hi, and I'm like, hi.

And I'm just like the coolest kid in class, and then walked out. But she has no memory of that. No. And then like Hugh told me this like two weeks ago. I was like, wait, now you're having a family? Like, we did a whole movie together. Well, chemistry is obviously massive, right? When we're doing anything as an actor or whatever, even, even pass, even with the directors and everything else. But of course, the chemistry

between the two have to be there. And that can be created or it can be instant. You know, I think that when it's not there, you have to find a way to make it happen. But with you guys, obviously, it seems like just knowing you, Hugh, in the short time and watching you together, it seemed like almost instantaneous so yes you knew each other but you didn't you didn't have much of a relationship when you guys first started rehearsing and seeing it was like oh shit this is fucking immediate like this is it's on or was there a feel out was there a feel out period okay and i've talked about this it was like it felt easy it didn't feel i think i've thought a lot about this chemistry word like you want everyone to believe it obviously and yeah you can

i mean we we we that's what we do for living we fake it right but I think if there's trust between two people and you can maybe share vulnerabilities, whether it be around performing or just life or whatever that is, if there's a feeling of trust, then that's the door that needs to open. But I think on top of that, K and I have a lot in common, the way we approach work, the way we approach people, the way we approach life. We're quite optimistic forward-moving people. And I know, it just felt easy.

So when you guys are doing these emotional scenes, right, when Kate has to lose it, when you have to lose it when it's happening, how much of it is on the actor who is not necessarily the one who has to be that vulnerable and emotional? How open does the person opposite have to be to allow that to happen? You know what I mean? That's interesting question. It's a great question. And I think that's the thing. Because sometimes you can get afraid, even if there are, even if you have trust, it's like, you know, oh, I'm going to do this big scene in front of Hugh right now.

Like, it's almost like you have to receive it so she can give it. Yeah. That's where the trust is. I have something to say, okay? What do you think about that? No, you, you, you, I mean, I, I think it's, that's a really interesting way of asking that question because it really is, it's like feeling free to be, feel. emotionally naked in front of somebody

and risk making a mistake or looking silly or feeling like your choices aren't good enough having like the confidence to make maybe what could also be a bad choice but like a great co-star a great acting partner elevates you like you kind of guide each other

through it a little bit like it's like there is a reciprocated like you feed off of each other in a way and when it's actually really working when you're doing i think what it is that we're supposed to do which is you give and you receive and you listen like if you're actually doing that in a way where you're fully connected fully open vulnerable and feel trust then it's like it becomes you kind of lose yourself you're a lot it allows you to lose yourself in it a little bit you know i think about that scene where i had to sort of where mike finally sort of breaks down because it's this i've got to let go of lightning so it's this lifeline for him this character he's created i've got to let go of it and i think of you coming up your choice to come up behind me

and i could feel you so it's it's so important to have that and if i don't have it in the actor i'm working with i'll find it on set i won't tell that crew member but there'll be some crew member who would be for some reason to be the one if if I was going through something really hard at lunchtime that would be the person I would trust or who would put their hand on my shot that that feeling of a some I won't sometimes I remember Darren Aronovsky I said I had to do these things on my own I were very vulnerable and I said Darren I want you beside the camera because I built up a friendship and a trust with him

and an honesty so he was the one for me standing by the camera. But I kind of like that because I think as an actor, you're revealing something and allowing the audience. And it's the courage. What you said is right, it's a courage to allow people to see parts of your own heart, of your own emotional being that we hide.

We hide it all the time. So it's also like what, you know, what pa you know Kurt the you know don't let them catch you acting like the Spencer Tracy line you know

don't let don't you know this kid comes up to Spencer Tracy and says you know I want to be an actor and Spencer Tracy says well don't let them catch you at it and like that's the ultimate goal and like in order to do that

you have to break down so many things to be it needs to become so honest and if you don't like what Hugh's saying, that's so interesting, if you don't have that in your actual scene partner, you have to find it somewhere else. Yeah. Did you guys get nervous?

Hugh, do you get nervous before anything anymore? You know? I'm straight to hell out of me. Right. And I think often about Travolta. I did a film. My second film was with Travolta. And man, I grew up watching Greece and Santa November.

Like, walking about Carter. I'm like, and I asked him, I said, do you get nervous? He goes, man. First two days of any film, you can just throw it in the trash. He goes, I still get it. First takes me two days. You're putting on a new skin.

It's like putting on a new pair of shoes. It doesn't matter if you wear shoes every day, new pair is going to feel not great. And it drives me crazy sometimes. It's much better. It's one of the reasons I don't want to, I used to not want to stop because I was like, I was going to keep going at this.

Like, I want to have more time in the saddle, please. sometimes I think doing it the beauty of doing a TV show, which is the first thing I did, you're on camera so much and you're so tired and you've got so much dialogue, you have no space for nerves, but I don't know, yeah, I still feel it. How about you?

Oh, yeah. Really? I feel it, yeah, I get nervous. I didn't see that at all. But I don't let it show. Like, I think that people think I'm much more, um, uh, like

I'm good at like powering through my nerves like it's almost like fuel for me like when I get nervous or if I get that like anxious feeling or that like excitement I it's like it's my fuel I remember asking a sound sound recordist he just came up and I said something about nerves and he goes up if I could play you what I hear oh heartbeat in all these actors. Interesting. He says, I reckon some of them are going 150 beats per minute. And they may be on camera looking all cool and suave. He goes, I know the truth. That's cool.

Yeah, not to mention everyone talking to themselves. Like, come on, Oliver, you can fucking do this. Don't forget your line. Don't forget your line again. They're going to hate you even more. Oh, well, you guys. We love you. Yeah, we love you, man.

This was been so much fun. This was being awesome. I know you guys can't tell. You can, but the movie is so fucking fantastic. And I'm not just saying that it's a throwback movie. We don't see anything like these anymore. And I think it's time we do. It's feel good.

You know, it takes you on this journey. It's not, it's not too sentimental. It strikes this perfect balance, you know, where you are happy crying at the end. And we don't get that much anymore. and I think it's important now to see these things, to go to the movie theater to go watch these things with a group.

It's a great movie to see with a crowd. You know what I mean? It's not just the Marvel movies that you want to go see with the crowd. Like there are these kinds of movies that you want to go see with people because we are all energy and when that energy sort of comes together

in a room and you're watching these moments, you feel it throughout the theater. So that's why you should probably go to the fucking movie theater to watch this thing. Thanks, my man. Holly, we love you. Ollie, good luck, crush that audition today, man.

Oh, yeah. It's going to be great. Aaron's going to be hating me. A handheld, a handheld iPhone, the kids screaming, the dogs are barking. You don't understand. It's complete mayhem when I do these things. And I might have a great holidays. All right.

All right. I love you both. Thanks. I love you. Thank you, man. This is amazing. Bye. That was so great.

How much do you love Hugh? Like, much. Isn't me the best? We were doing on the carpet one time and someone said, someone said to him, who do you want to be the celebrity who would play you? And you goes, Oliver Hudson.

Well, I wanted to show him my wolverine body. Oh, well, I'm glad you didn't. No, because I wanted to, I was going to pitch him because he's going to, but he's going to be, I'm going to pitch him. Brother, you're looking great and lean. Oh, look. Oh, my God. You're getting jacked. Oliver Hussel. I'm so proud of you.

If anybody could see my brother just, my brother just gave me like a, well, he took his shirt off. But I wanted to pitch his new sort of abs. They're starting to show through. You got to get some fat off of them. But the Wolverine needs a younger brother. His name's like the little guy, you know. It's like the Wolvero or something. like that. Or Italian. He's an Italian. He's an Italian.

Wurferino, right. He's an Italian, he's come to live in the United States. And he's like, where is my brother? I am Wauverino. With your horn. Totally. It's like some power. It's like some power.

Like, do you, chew, chew. Your horn is like your weapon. Totally. All right, I got to go. I love you. I love you. Okay, bye. I'm Stefan Curry, and this is Gentleman's Cut.

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