Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Spiritually Speaking with Goldie Hawn & John Edward

Episode Date: September 15, 2025

The family that crosses over together stays together, just ask Goldie Hawn! The Hollywood legend joins her kids and world-renowned psychic John Edward for a special episode that is just ‘beyond!...’ Goldie, Kate, Oliver and John share their personal encounters with the spiritual realm, and John explains how the rest of us can tune in and receive messages from our dearly departed.  Plus, hear about the FBI naysayer who turned into a believer and how John has been using his gift to help solve cold cases. John's new book "Chasing Evil" is available now.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is an IHeart podcast. September is a great time to travel, especially because it's my birthday in September, especially internationally. Because in the past, we've stayed in some pretty awesome Airbnbs in Europe. Did we've one in France, we've one in Greece,
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Starting point is 00:00:32 I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The Moment is a space for the conversations
Starting point is 00:00:51 we've been having us father and daughter for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the I-Heart Radio app, podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's your favorite jersey girl, Gia Judice. Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I share my story. This week, I'm sitting down with Vanderpump Rolls Star, Sheena Shea. I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest.
Starting point is 00:01:14 There will be an occasional text, one way or the other, from me to Ariana, maybe a happy birthday from Ariana to me. I think the last time I talked to Tom, it was like, congrats on America's Got Talent. This is a combo you don't want to miss. Listen to Casual Chaos on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In sitcoms, when someone has a problem, they just blurt it out and move on. Well, I lost my job and my parakeet is missing. How is your day?
Starting point is 00:01:46 But the real world is different. Managing life's challenges can be overwhelming. So, what do we do? We get support. The Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the Ad Council have mental health resources available for you at loveyourmind today.org. That's loveyourmindtay.org. See how much further you can go when you take care of your mental health. Do you want to hear the secrets of psychopaths, murderers, sex offenders?
Starting point is 00:02:10 In this episode, I offer tips from them. I'm Dr. Leslie, forensic psychologist. This is a podcast where I cut through the noise with real talk. When you were described to me as a forensic psychologist, I was like snooze. We ended up talking for hours, and I was like, this girl is my best friend. Let's talk about safety and strategies to protect yourself and your loved ones. Listen to Intentionally Disturbing on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson.
Starting point is 00:02:43 And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Reveory. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling, Reveory.
Starting point is 00:03:10 That's good. Hello. Hey, quiet. I'm trying to do an intro. Hi, honey. No, mom. Hi, my. Everyone be quiet.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I'm trying to do an intro. Okay, I'm sorry. What I was going to say before anyone spoke. was that we have John Edward here who is a world-renowned medium and he was we're lucky enough to be graced in his presence Kate here's what I was going to say Kate couldn't be here because she's working and then I was going to say but we have another incredible human being here
Starting point is 00:03:46 who happened to give birth to myself her name is Goldie Hahn better known as my mother who is here as well proud to be right she's also my mother and gave her in this scenario you weren't here yet so right right remember that when did you ever stick to a script is what i want to know never i stick to ideas and then the ideas are left and right i'm feeling the revelry i'm feeling it you're feeling the right feeling it yes um but you know look we've grown up with the psychics and mediums mom has been extremely involved in this then of course myself and my sister are as well uh i've
Starting point is 00:04:26 consulted oracles of, you know, should I do this job or not? Yeah, right. I'm like, Mom, call somebody. I don't know if I should do this gig or not. You know, mom's like, okay, hold on, speed dial, speed dial, speed dial, speed dial. So I wanted to bring Mommy in, too, to have this experience. I know I'm so excited. Yeah, this is.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Of John for a long, long time. I mean, really, really happy to meet you, John. And I'm excited and all the amazing work that you have done over these years. and literally, you know, we're brought in with a gift and how you've used it as extraordinary. So you've helped a lot of people. And I know that when you were born and you were a little boy and you were having all of these visions and things, I mean, looking at it as a kind of a game for you, you know, a little did you know at that time the impression that you're going to have on so many people.
Starting point is 00:05:19 So anyway, it's a pleasure. Wow, thank you. Yeah. Let's start there. Where did you grow up? I grew up on Long Island, a small town called Glencove. My dad, Irish, American, New York City police officer, career military guy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:05:34 Mom, very Italian, one of 11. My grandmother was very into this subject matter, so therefore her children were open to the subject matter. My dad was not, so there was a polar opposite of belief, and my dad's rule was make sure my son is never around any of that BS. Yes. And my mom made sure that I was kept away from it. They wound up divorcing. We moved into my grandmother's house, which I always jokingly refer to as the paranormal hub of activity.
Starting point is 00:06:03 But I had adopted my dad's philosophy that this wasn't real. So I used to make fun of all the people that came to my grandmother's house to do readings until I met one woman who read for me and she was the woman who put me on my path. And I was 15 and she told me that I would change the way millions of people looked at her subject matter. And I want to emphasize again, I was 15. And she sounded like she was bat-jake crazy. And I was like, okay, this woman is delusional. But everything she told me happened. And she told me things that there's no way possible she could have, like I would have had to tell her these things. And then she would have had to know the people that I was connected to. And then she gave me scenarios
Starting point is 00:06:41 and outcomes that were not logical. And then they happened. And that got my attention. And I say very openly that I didn't go, oh my God, she told me that I was psyched. geek, I'm going to go do readings. I actually felt violated. I felt like this woman walked around my life. I didn't like it. And I wanted to know, well, if people can do this, like, it was real, how do I stop other people from like doing? Like, what if people can just like do that? And that sent me to the public library where I read every book in 1985 that was on the shelf at that time was under the occult section. And at that moment, I was like, well, this is not psychic. This is common sense. like we all have these moments of like seeing your dead grandfather and i would ask people like
Starting point is 00:07:23 at school haven't you ever seen a dead grandfather and the responses were normally no like you've never ever just hypothetically got a glimpse of somebody in your family that was dead and they were like can't say that i had so i kind of realized that okay so maybe some of my earlier experiences had to be refrained and that became a journey of like analyzing what i experienced what I see here and feel. How do I perceive things? And then I just dove head first. And within a year, I was doing ratings.
Starting point is 00:07:56 At 16? Yeah. Wow. So, going back just a little bit, when you're growing up in such a polarizing family, where you have the Irish cop and the Italian mom, which is just so amazing, by the way. I mean, there's like a sitcom there, I think.
Starting point is 00:08:12 Yeah, I know. But it was almost like you strangely had. the best of both worlds in that you had this ability, but there was also skepticism in a way from you. They both, they were a catalyst of how I viewed the subject matter because I think that inherently I'm an analytical, logical person. I like information. And I was the kid that was thrown out of religious instructions at least three times because I asked questions that were deemed inappropriate and at one point blasphemous. And I say this openly, I wasn't trying to be a disruptive kid, things just didn't make sense, like when people would say things, I'd be like,
Starting point is 00:08:52 but wait, but how come and why? And I was taught, well, you're not supposed to question that. You're supposed to just believe that. You're just supposed to know that, and that's what we believe. And I was like, yeah, well, that's not working for me. Like, because the one in one is not adding up to be five for me. Like, I know it to be two. So where are the other three that you're getting five from? And people couldn't, like, address those things. there were those moments and I think what I always want people to be as a seeker because if we're being a seeker that leads to us exploring and if we have exploration that can lead to discovery once you have discovery that raises your awareness and once your awareness is raised to something
Starting point is 00:09:32 now you can put that into action that's been my life and it's always like oh I want to learn more I want to know more and I am inquisitive by nature as well so you put all this together and I became almost insatiable with a lot of information. I was like I wanted to learn more about astrology. I want to learn about numerology. I wanted to learn about psychometry. All of these things that were like tools of divination not to predict, but to
Starting point is 00:09:57 kind of learn how we can live a better life. So interesting because I have the question and wonder how, what is going on? What is going on in your mind? What happens when you're seeing things?
Starting point is 00:10:13 And you don't know why. And I think having had some myself, excuse me, I'm looking at that and I am so curious about that very thing. What is happening? Why is it then when you go to sleep and you have a dream about your father who's long gone and he's telling you everything's going to be okay and you're sitting on a mountaintop and it feels so real and then you wake up the next morning and you feel like you've been blessed? What is that? That's a visit. That's a visit. That's a visit. There's a difference. There's a difference between a visit and a dream. Dreams fade and dreams are this like amalgamation of what like kind of comes together in our unconscious mind with like life and fears and thoughts and but a visit is
Starting point is 00:10:56 where they're coming through directly to you and they're going to let you know that it's them and it's usually positive and very vivid they sometimes look vibrant or young and there could be little nuggets of information about your future to validate that it was really them but when you wake up you won't forget it you could have had it 50 years ago exactly remember like it was five minutes ago Because it was an encounter. It was a real meaning. So I guess the other question is, because speaking to the other side and having that experience and being correct about the things that particularly the people from the other side are saying to me, and it cannot be disputed, period. You often wonder, how did that person know that or the
Starting point is 00:11:36 channel? But my other bigger question is that I'm filled with so much love when I'm talking to someone on the other side from a facilitator like that, what are they feeling? Do they have emotions? Where are these entities? What do they feel like? Because when daddy says to me, you know, make sure you, you know, put away the butter, you know, that was something you always told me. No one knows that, but what did daddy feel? You know, when my mom came to me and said things to me about the last, we had and so forth is my point is I would like to know that they're in some form that is real so when you're doing this and you see the people you hear them they're speaking to you you're sharing what do you think they're feeling I guess the idea is consciousness like what what is consciousness
Starting point is 00:12:35 when we die does our consciousness die so I think that they're more real than we are I think the vibration and the frequency that they operate on is a more real dimension of the essence of who we truly are and that here in the physical form we're lowering our vibration and we're now playing a role right you guys are amazing actors and you've been in so many different things but at the core you're you're you but you played roles you're not the roles you played however each role you played contributes to who you are and your body of work so of our soul is the, you know, the actor and the lifetimes that we've been in are the roles. We're an amalgamation of all of that. And then that tapestry, we've all been a part of.
Starting point is 00:13:22 You have been probably in multiple lives and multiple incarnations. And now that just reinforces what your relationship dynamic is. And that's love, right? The pure essence of who they feel like is coming from a place of love. And that's what they want to convey. So I always want people to know that they're okay. We're not. They're, they're, they're doing all right and they're they're still with us and when they come through they're going to come through with like regular everyday trivial mundane things things that are not um groundbreaking or earth shattering but stuff to say hey i know that you did that and by the way i was with you when you did that exactly i mean i don't want to go into stuff in my life but
Starting point is 00:14:00 truly it's what it is but i wanted to say and have thank you so much for being here i i miss you so much and so forth but these are very human sort of longings and emotion they don't have that now that's a that's what i want to get that that is really that is really important many people will say well do they miss me and i have to be honest to be like not really yeah and they go well what do you mean they don't miss me and i'm like well they still have us we miss what we don't have physically but they're still participants in our lives so they don't miss it because they're with us they're still connected and I always want people to include them. Like people include them in the negative times,
Starting point is 00:14:42 but they don't always include them in the positive times. So I'm like always be 50% of the equation when it's a, you know, a boring day. It's like on my Instagram feed one day. I was like, you know what? There's nothing going on. My mom's past. Like there's no birthdays, there's no anniversaries.
Starting point is 00:14:56 I posted a photo of her and me when I was a little boy. And I just put it up as a post just to honor my mom. And I thought about it after the fact. And I was like, you know, she's, probably like in the other side going, look, look, look, my son just posted something on earthagram. You know, look, look, look, here. And there's no, there's no reason for me to have done it, but just to include her and honor her in a way that I was feeling it. Yes, because we're human and we have these emotions. But when you talk about they,
Starting point is 00:15:26 which is, I guess, a conglomerate of energies, I suppose over years. I think we have different days, too, right? So we have the they that we're related to in the physical world, right, that become our family that we're connecting with. And then we have the day that are our teachers, because I believe that we all have a spirit team, like spirit guides that are here to guide us and help us and give us insights. And I think it's important to plug into them as well.
Starting point is 00:15:48 So if I'm doing a reading for someone and I feel like the information is coming from above me, so imagine you're in the shower, right? And the water's coming above the shower head and it's coming this way. That's coming from my guides. I trust that I've been working forever. If I'm reading for you and I'm connecting with somebody
Starting point is 00:16:02 that is your family, that information comes from around you. It feels different to me. So I can tell where the information is coming from. But ultimately, to go back to the original question of how does it come through, whatever I see here and feel, and it's very cryptic, and it's kind of like sign language. So it's not a open conversation. There's no physical body.
Starting point is 00:16:20 They can't make sound, right? So it's got to be an energetic form of communication. So they download information and then the individual who's receiving it, whether it's me or you, you're going to receive it in your frame of reference, which is why I'll always tell people, I don't think anybody should read dream books unless you wrote it because you're dreaming in your own symbolism and you have to figure out what your dream means for you. So we were both going to get a message from somebody in this room and they showed you an apple and they showed you an apple and they showed me an apple. We're probably going to have three different definitions of
Starting point is 00:16:54 what that apple means to us. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching the moment and we're podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope.
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Starting point is 00:21:56 Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club As a part of the Marco Tura podcast network Available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Did you have to learn that language? Or did it come to you immediately? I got a lot through movies and TV, believe it or not. Really?
Starting point is 00:22:19 Yeah, a lot of my symbolism would come through movies and TV. I would see scenes of things and I'd be like, well, that scene reminds me of this. and then I would say that and then they'd be like yeah it's exactly what happened and I was like oh okay that's interesting were you a movie guy a TV guy growing up well I used to manage a video store so let's just say that it came in really handy wow so do you think though that these entities sort of use this part of who you are to communicate meaning I do I think that they I feel like not to date myself but I feel like my brain is like the Dewey Decimal system right it's kind of like
Starting point is 00:22:50 like the Dewey Decimal system like you know it's like how do you go through for the young people that would be Google. But it's like you would kind of like look to see what where how do I get him to say that. Yeah. Oh, show them this. You know, it's like playing pictonary spirits or charades with the afterlife. Yeah. And I'm sure there's a lot of times that they must be like, dude, like, it's just a, it's just a blue hat. Just say the blue hat. Right. Like, what are you going for the team for? Right. Just say the blue hat. Yeah. One time I did a reading for a woman and her husband passed and her husband was coming through. And throughout the entire reading. So you know, like when you're watching a television. They have the little logo of the network that you're watching. So the entire time I'm
Starting point is 00:23:28 reading for her, I'm seeing like a bell, but I don't say that. Oh, no. I start talking about Philadelphia because I thought Liberty Bell. And she goes, I have any ties to Philadelphia. I'm like, what about like colonial America? Do you have any type of like, I take this woman down a rabbit hole of like flag making. Betsy Ross, Franklin's, right. What about Taco? What about Taco? bell. To the point that the woman literally says to me, are you sure that's my husband? And I went, now, 99% of this information is all validated. I just can't figure this out.
Starting point is 00:24:03 So I go, ma'am, because I can't figure out what this bell means, you're going to, like, disregard everything else. She had such a reaction to the bell part, like a physical and emotional reaction. I was like, oh, what does the bell mean? When she composed herself, she said, my husband was on a business trip. when he came back we had a great weekend Monday morning came
Starting point is 00:24:24 and he was getting ready to go to work he opened up his attach case briefcase he had brought her back a bell from his last business trip and he went to her night table
Starting point is 00:24:32 and said honey if you ever need me just ring this and I'll come running left it on the night table left and got into a car accident and died
Starting point is 00:24:45 it was the last thing then he said to her where did I go Philadelphia yeah you went to philly making flags yeah talking about dolly madison ice cream like you name it i've and this poor man was probably like dude yeah what do you just say fell right so i've learned i've learned over the years yeah i'm going to say everything i'm seeing hearing and feeling i'm going to interpret it as to what it means for me and then i'm going to acknowledge the fact that i could be wrong right
Starting point is 00:25:14 and and i think that's what my style of teaching about the subject matter has been and and that's because 15, 16, when I came into this work and I met people who were doing this that were 40 and 50 and 60 years old and they had years doing it. They kind of made me feel like they were here and I was here. And they were unapproachable
Starting point is 00:25:32 and untouchable. And I was like, you know what? I don't like the way they read. I don't like the fact that they're making it seem like we know all and the client can't be a part of this. And I made a decision that I was going to be inclusive and teach about what I was experiencing because ultimately it's not about the medium.
Starting point is 00:25:50 It is about the client. And if it's about the client, then my job should be to get you to recognize that you don't need me. Nobody needs the medium. What they need is an understanding and the philosophy that they can make these connections. And all the medium should be doing is validating what we believe already to be true. Amazing. Kate, you there? Yes, I'm here.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And I've been, like, biting my tongue. I know. I want you to come in. I know it's hard to break in when you're, you know, getting glam done. But why don't you? Well, I have so many questions. but I, you know, I, I experience a lot of sight, like a lot of this. Kate, do you remember meeting me on the Zoom?
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yes. Okay, so that was a really pivotal night for me because that was at the beginning of the COVID pandemic. And you guys, you guys were all having that, like, cool group, FaceTime Zoom-y thing that was happening every night and folks were bringing, like, show and tell people to the groups. And Kim Kardashian was like, hey, would you come do this? And I said, I don't know if I could do that, but I'll try. and you were amazing. That was an amazing night.
Starting point is 00:26:52 So thank you for being so gracious and helping to make me feel comfortable because you definitely did because I was a little blown away by the amount of people that were on that and the caliber of people that were on right. Yeah, I was like, you know, I don't really have a poker face.
Starting point is 00:27:07 So I was like, I was looking at the screens and I was like, you know. It was an interesting group. Yes. But I guess I wonder, like I wonder about how you hear I have experiences where I hear dialogue
Starting point is 00:27:23 and I wonder if you like I know everybody has a different way of accessing but do you ever actually like does it download as dialogue ever for you? So it downloads as thoughts so you're saying dialogue I'm going to say thoughts so I'll have these
Starting point is 00:27:41 thoughts that kind of come in my head and then I will go to the analytical part of it to try to figure out like okay what does that mean where am i getting this from um how do i say this so whatever i see here and feel and for the people that are listening when you guys if you if you have ever read something and then you had to go back and reread something because you had another thought that came in and you were like exactly well that's a but that's a reading right that's what a reading feels like i'm focusing i'm focusing on one thing and then i'm paying attention to the other part of that which comes in
Starting point is 00:28:15 so when you do you think it's inherited yes it's definitely inherited you do it's absolutely inherited and italian your italian side i mean i mean i'm wondering like if italians seem to have quite a history of psychic and well there's a lot of superstition that goes on that side of the family you know when you got to talk about the maloica and who overlooked you and the bad energy and what do you do to get rid of it and prayer and when your grandmother has a you know a a a a nightstand, a night table, that a bureau that's got better saints than the church, you know, you grow up with this, like, faith-based, superstitious, anything's possible. Yes, your grandfather was sitting at the dining room table. That's who you saw kind of vibe.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Wow. Right. How did you square, or how did both questions, how did your, how did your mother square Catholicism and? So my mom was not a churchgoer. She was not. No, she was the, you have to go to church. And I would, like, well, why do I have to go to church? You're not going to church. And then I got the do as I say, not as I do speech. Yeah. So my grandmother dragged me to church. Pretty much every day until I went to first grade. On your dad's side? My mom's side. Your mom's side. Yeah. So your mom was not a church goer. Not a churchgoer. No. And your dad was Catholic. Yep. And so how did that work with sort of mother was very vested and, you know, if you want to call it, psychic phenomenon and so
Starting point is 00:29:40 forth. So probably that's something that the church would look a little bit down. That's what I'm saying. How do you, how would they square religion and sort of this gift? When my mom and dad divorced, I remember we were at a family wedding or something and my mom sat in the back row of the church away from everybody else in the family. And my mom was a little bit of a, you know, she was a moody cancerian. I'll leave it at that. So I thought she was making a choice to sit back there. And then I said, come, come sit with us. And she was like, no. And then after the fact, I said, why wouldn't you come sit with us? And she said, well, because I'm a divorced woman, I'm basically excommunicated as a Catholic. And I was like, would you get a letter from Rome?
Starting point is 00:30:19 I'm like, come sit with your family. And she said, no, no, no. So I grew up in the family that was if you missed mass and didn't go to confession, you couldn't say an act of contrition and receive. It was like, no, no, you have to go to confession type of thing. So even though she didn't really go. She still believed in what the rules were. And therefore, I thought that because of what I did, then I too was sitting in the back view of the church. And then on one day, I got an appointment where at 2 o'clock, my appointment was at Francis. And when I opened the door, there was a nun there. And it was Sister Francesca. And I said, can I help you? And she said, are you John? And I said, I am. She goes, I'm your two o'clock. And I went, oh, okay, come on in. You know, and my grandmother
Starting point is 00:31:07 now, super Catholic is like a nun is coming to see my grandson, right? Like, you know, the house has been annoying. And I bring her upstairs, and she goes into the room that I'm going to read in. And I said, I'll be right with you. And then I went into the other room when I called my girlfriend, which is not my wife. And I was like, there's a nun here. And she's like, why? I went for a reading. And she goes, then why are you calling me? I go, because like, I'm distracted. She's like, why are you distracted? Is she topless?
Starting point is 00:31:34 I was like, Sandra. I'm like, no. She's like, full on in her nun habit and whatever. She's like, John, I am working. She's like, go read the nun. Yeah. So I compose myself. I go back in the room.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Title of your next book. I sit there. Go read the nun. I sit there and I was like, I do the reading for her. And at the end, she said, do you know why I'm here? I said, well, I was assuming you wanted to hear from your family. And she said, no. I was here to have you arrested.
Starting point is 00:32:01 And I was like, excuse me? She goes, yeah, she says, I run a grief group. She goes, and all my grief patrons that come to the group are sharing your name. And one by one, they were all coming to you. She said, I needed to make sure that you were legitimate. And I was like, and how's the rest of my day looking? And she goes, it looks amazing. She goes, and it's clear God gave you a beautiful ability.
Starting point is 00:32:22 And I'm very pleased that you'll be helping me with my grief group. And I said, I will? And she said, yes, you will. And it will be for free. And for years after that, I would do groups at the convent in the basement when she led her grief groups. Oh, my God, what a great story. Wow. On the same day, the exact same day, my last client hears me telling the story and says to me, I think I should tell you something.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And I said, no, no, no, I need to have a clean blank slate when I read somebody. I don't like any information. I don't want any bias, right? And to be really honest, I was really hungry because I don't eat when I'm going to read. So I just wanted to like now get through this last reading so I can go eat. And I sit down with him and I said, I have your dad here. And he goes, you do? And I went, I do.
Starting point is 00:33:12 He goes, I'm going to need to use your phone. And I said, why? He goes, because I just had dinner with him. And if he's dead now, oh, my mom must be very upset. And I like looked at him. I was like, oh, this kind of snark is not going to work for me when I'm hungry. So I said, well, if it's not your dad, then I have your father-in-law. He goes, I can assure you.
Starting point is 00:33:27 you do not have my father-in-law. And I go, why did you have dinner with him, too? And he goes, no, I'm not married. I'm. And when he said, I'm, all of a sudden, like, his clothing all went black in my mind. And I saw the collar and I went, oh, my God, you were a priest. Oh. He goes, that's what I wanted to tell you when I heard you tell the other story.
Starting point is 00:33:46 So I read for him, and at the end of the reading, he told me the same thing. He said that same thing, his patrons, his, you know, come, the church people were coming to see me. And he wanted to make sure that I was legit. and um and then i looked at him and i went why today like why would like why would the universe send me a priest and a nun on the same day with the same purpose and he like squarely hit me through the eyes he goes because you feel like you're an outcast and you don't have a place and you don't feel like you belong anymore he goes and i think we're here to let you know that you could still do what you do you could still help people and you're allowed to have your faith in god wow yeah and it was
Starting point is 00:34:24 like I felt like the universe sent me like not just a life preserver but like a life raft to get into I guess I did feel that way I did feel like an outcast they did kind of believe that I was excommunicated and that brought me to a place of like you know what faith is free religion people pay for yeah it's great oh that's very interesting did were you I feel the same way how old were you in this started to happen when you started to feel these things but 15 was when I started that's when it was 15 not not not before what I had it before but I just you know but what what was that feeling when you were a younger kid like what astral project I used to like have a lot of out of body experiences um I knew
Starting point is 00:35:03 stuff about the family I vividly remember sitting um in the car with my mom and I said tell me the story again when you were 13 and you were clamming at the beach and you cut your ankle and she's like yeah that was like blah blah blah and she stopped and she went why you why are you asking me that I never told you that how do you know that and I went well clearly you She goes, no, I didn't tell you that. She goes, I know I didn't tell you that. I go, well, then somebody else had to say that. And she's like, no, only two other people know that.
Starting point is 00:35:32 She goes, and none of them would have told you. I was like, well, then you clearly had to tell me. So I had a lot of those moments. I remember being in fourth grade. I got in trouble in fourth grade. We used to have like, you know, 10 vocabulary words for spelling. And then they give you the extra credit word and the extra credit word. And I should just set it up that where I sat in the room, the teacher was diagonal all
Starting point is 00:35:51 way to the left. And I was like all the way to the right. and the teacher gave with the words and then the extra credit word in fourth grade was Flem and every kid spelled it FL EM and I spelled it correctly
Starting point is 00:36:04 so they asked my mom who was the medical professional in the family and she said well his aunt's a nurse but they don't really see each other why and she said well he spelled something correctly that he should not logically have been able to spell
Starting point is 00:36:17 so they called me into the room and they said how did you how did you know that and I said well she wrote it on the board the teacher said no I didn't and my mom had to you know do not lie to me it was her thing so I'm like oh my god she's going to think I lied to her and I was like yes you did and the teacher said no John I did not but I can tell you sitting here I remember seeing it on her board so she logically couldn't have gotten up from the desk right walked over and like put it on the board and went
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Starting point is 00:41:47 friendship, heartbreaks, men, and, of course, our favorite secrets. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club as a part of the Marco Tura podcast network available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. We open today talking about curiosity, you know, and searching and seeking and trying to understand everything, and I get that. And this, I think, in everyone, really can feel the question, is how did this happen? Why? Why do some people have this gift? Can this gift be nurtured, number one? Is it frightening to have this gift? What if it's not a gift? What if it's just a muscle? What if it's just an ability? That was going to be my next question.
Starting point is 00:42:37 Can you, because everyone has this. Everybody has it. And I think people have certain abilities that are better than others. Yes. Yes. And I think the gift, is when we recognize it. The gift is in the connection and the communication. I really believe that everyone has the ability. I agree. And to different degrees, they have it. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Does it diminish with age? No, it hasn't. Not for me, at least, not yet. 40 years in. And somebody said to me not too long ago, would you like to see crossing over in reruns? I went, no. And they were like, why not?
Starting point is 00:43:11 I used to watch you all the time. I was like, no, I would not like to see that in reruns. I said, I don't think it's a good representation. of where I am today. I was like, back then it was like, I got the information. I passed it on. The person said yes. And now I feel like I'm able to go deeper
Starting point is 00:43:26 and I'm able to look at the intersection of the client, me, and the universe and try to figure out why am I supposed to be talking to them? What am I supposed to help them with? Like, what's the obstacle block is your lesson? And that was not something that I was able to do on TV. Giving yourself the honor of being a person that can do that. You have given your time for 25.
Starting point is 00:43:47 years with an FBI agent. Yeah. This is a really interesting, I would say, transition, evolution, if you would call it an evolved evolution, because it's also being not just someone who can read the other side or bring people in to make people feel better or learn, but you really are helping on a whole other way, which is answering questions that sometimes feel unanswerable, to actually serve the larger and the greater good. How does that feel?
Starting point is 00:44:21 Overwhelming when you put it like that, to be honest. You know, in the theme of my life, it's always been people trying to expose me. And that experience was no different. I did a lot of radio. I loved radio. Radio was live. Nobody knew what I looked like.
Starting point is 00:44:39 I could just do my thing. They knew what my name stood for. I know the feeling. you know what I'm saying? And I couldn't be accused of being edited because it's live radio. Random callers calling in. Yeah. So that was like my first love, that live interactivity. And I was on a New York City radio station pretty frequently. It was called Scott Todd morning show on WPLJ in New York. And Agent Robert Hilland used to hear it and get really angry that they were putting me on because he thought it was not real and that it was a bit that they
Starting point is 00:45:10 were doing. And he felt like it was not okay. So he was, he took it upon himself to come to me and he was going to expose me like the nuns like the priest right and he came under the guys of a very real case it was a very real case that he brought to me but he brought controlled items so he set me up in our first meeting and he laid out like nine evidence bags but he had previously gone to four different women in his office and said can you give me something of yours i'll bring it back tomorrow and he came but the evidence bags in front of me. And the way he tells it is I took the four evidence bags. I had nothing to do with the case and pushed him to the side and said, this is nothing to do with your case.
Starting point is 00:45:51 Let's focus on this. And then I began giving him information about the missing moment that he came to me about. And this is where for the people that are listening, this is a teaching moment. There's something called psychometry. And psychometry is where you can hold on to a person's object. And you could read the energy of the person. A quick example of that is if anybody shows someone a photo of your family, of your party, of a vacation, and you say, describe this, they can accurately describe that photo by looking at the energy of it. It's just energy. So never give a psychic a photo of someone who's passed or an object because they could
Starting point is 00:46:29 read the energy of it. And it sounds like they're connecting, but they're not. So I'm not connecting with the person who's missing. I'm connecting with the energy of the person to try to give information. And from that experience of working with him, I then wound up reading for him and his family came through. So what happened to me in my first reading, I wound up doing to him. And he had to go to his family to find out what I was saying was accurate. And then that blew his mind.
Starting point is 00:46:58 And then his very, very, very, very skeptical investigative mind and personality said, can you help me on my cases? And I said, I don't know, but I'm intrigued. Let's try. And, you know, we were talking about this earlier. I didn't trust him. And he didn't trust me. So the two of us were doing this kind of like thing. He's doing his investigative thing. I'm doing my psychic thing. And neither one of us was sure about the other person's intentions. And that fostered the greatest trust. and we became like brothers over the last three decades. Wow. And there's a lot of cases that I worked on with him,
Starting point is 00:47:39 but I say this openly. I did not work for the FBI. This book has been vetted by the FBI. It took over nine months to get it approved. Wow. Yeah. Took over nine months. And I solved nothing.
Starting point is 00:47:50 He did. So just like when a client comes to me who's deeply grieving, I can't fix her healer grief. I can only do what I do in the hopes that they take that and do the work. Yeah. So there's no quick fixes. for anybody thinks like go get a reading quick fix yeah not real you know it's interesting but is he detective he's an ex-fbiator right who was a cop first he was a cop that's when he contacted you
Starting point is 00:48:12 yeah he was a cop and then he became so yeah the only reason why in my in my estimation the only reason he contacted you is because he was half a believer because there's no world where you would say oh I'll bring this random dude in because I want to prove that he's wrong I think in the back of his mind was like, he could, I think I believe this and I think he can help me. I think he was like 95% non-believer when I first met him and five percent hopeful of just maybe. Because why would he bring you in otherwise? Because there was no leads on the case. He wouldn't go, he, he says this openly. He goes, I would never go to, I would never go to John on stuff where we had leads. Right. He goes, I would go to John when they were no leads. Yeah. Yeah. When people are so
Starting point is 00:48:53 defensive and so clear against something, it's almost like they wish they want. Meaning that, they're so curious. It's like thou protest too much. And what's amazing with him is his journey in the 25 years from when I first met him to who he is today. Just that story in the book, the transformation that he goes through, he's kind of like a wow. And I want people to be like reflective of how are you chasing evil in your life? And what are you supposed to learn from kind of exploring the dark corners, right?
Starting point is 00:49:26 Is that exploration for him and going on that journey? there's a lot of loss and yeah you know the the the amount of people that are out there doing this kind of work meaning not the psychic work but like the protection of people work the fighting for victims and and their rights and their memories they don't have names and faces but they're out there doing it yeah and i i kind of feel like this is a great validation of those people yeah i kind of feel honored to have been like like watching from the sidelines this process yeah i want to get into the book but first i i want to there's a few other questions i have just about, you mentioned something a while back with these entities.
Starting point is 00:50:03 Is that what you would call them? Yeah, energies. Energies that essentially are we born pure love? Meaning is every energy that exists pure love? I'm going to say yes. So does that mean there is no dark energy? No, I think that the darkness lies in the heart of man. You know, like do I believe in positive and negative?
Starting point is 00:50:27 I do. Do I believe that there's evil? do but I'm less concerned about the evil and spirit because I haven't encountered that. I'm more concerned about the evil and the human experience because that does some serious damage. So like I was on TikTok live and I was doing like, you know, some live stuff promoting this book and, you know, people were coming up saying, oh, dark forces, negative energies, you know, demons and all that kind of stuff. And I'm like, have you turned on the news? Like have you looked at what's actually happening? I go, if you want to see evil, like you could see that very, very clearly. But folks like to
Starting point is 00:50:59 kind of suppress that and then point fingers of other things. And I think that there is positive negative in the universe and we have to choose where we want to align our energies. But what about, let's just say from a hypothetical, Jeffrey Dahmer dies, Hitler dies, what happens to their energy? I can only tell you based on theory because I haven't connected with them. Of course. Right. So based upon lighter versions of that, like dark energies that have done negative things. Yeah. Those energies are not that any longer, but they have to carry the weight of what it was that they did. So we don't escape anything, right? And I believe that the judicial system of our world pales in comparison to the universal judicial system because we can't escape anything universal.
Starting point is 00:51:47 It's always got to be balanced. Like the universe is always going to balance out the equation. So if people do negative things, they have to sit in understanding of, what that was and what was the ripple effect when you do readings and you have family members come in who may have been an abusive father abusive grandfather happens all the time it's that happen all the time so how do you how do you deal with that when you are giving a reading and do they come in with that same vitriol that same dark energy they don't they don't they don't they come through with an they come through with an understanding of who they were and what they did it's a very it's a very
Starting point is 00:52:24 interesting session when that happens because the person who's sitting in front of me is now forced to confront the reality of the experience and then has to recognize hopefully that on a timeline when you look from the moment of that person's passing back nothing changes right that's history that happened it's the past it's you can't change that it's a catalyst that makes you who you are but now it's the choice of that person's gone they're not here they can't hurt you you anymore. They can't do that thing to you. They want you to release that. Not for them, but for the person who's here. And that is usually something where the person has to work with their counselor or therapist. Like, that is not me. Right. But I would imagine there are some catharsis
Starting point is 00:53:11 in that. Huge. You know. Huge catharsis. Right. If they're willing to go there. I've had people shut it down. Oh, really. Can't shut it down. It's very hard. It is, it is hard. I think, unfortunately, the more knowledge of the sickness around the person that is inflicting pain is an avenue toward forgiveness. I think forgiveness is the great aspect of love and also the great ability to be happy. So in doing so, when you do confront, like I did have a moment with a girlfriend who's passed, and she said some funny things that were communicated to me. one was we laughed about her socks and she was live and she made joke it's about her socks in the
Starting point is 00:53:56 reading but she also said i wish i'd have been nicer to my husband a reflection it's an example of what you're saying that it was an awareness of somehow but you know interesting pure love pure where that soup is that incredible area of creation that where nothing is formed but everything comes from where It's basically matter comes from and everything. And in that soup, I feel like it's just, this is just me, but I feel that it's pure love. And when I say love, it's not the word, it's the feeling. Well, when you look at people who like have had near-death experiences, right, there's a collective word that I've noticed they all use.
Starting point is 00:54:42 And the collective word that they use is what they felt when they were there. and it's usually the word bliss you talk about the word bliss nobody ever says like hey how are you doing today I'm blissful right it's just not an earth word right it's not an earth word right
Starting point is 00:55:00 people don't say I'm blissful so I've recognized that there were earth words and then there were other side words afterlife words so are they happy no they're blissful you know we're looking for measuring happiness here do they have remorse or regret no that's an earth word
Starting point is 00:55:15 they have understanding, which is bigger and deeper at a level that sometimes I feel like we can't comprehend. And the same thing, like we have love in the way that we experience love. And then there's love that it feels like when they're coming through, which is what you're describing in that soup. It's like this bright source of connection and energy. John, this is, it's too good. It's too good. So there's so much more to talk with you about, okay, including your new book, which is chasing evil, shocking crimes, supernatural forces and an FBI agent's search for hope and justice. There's so much to get into that we're going to do another.
Starting point is 00:55:53 We're going to do a part two because you are that compelling. So we're going to get to it all in part two. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians,
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