Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Spiritually Speaking with Goldie Hawn & John Edward
Episode Date: September 15, 2025The family that crosses over together stays together, just ask Goldie Hawn! The Hollywood legend joins her kids and world-renowned psychic John Edward for a special episode that is just ‘beyond!...’ Goldie, Kate, Oliver and John share their personal encounters with the spiritual realm, and John explains how the rest of us can tune in and receive messages from our dearly departed. Plus, hear about the FBI naysayer who turned into a believer and how John has been using his gift to help solve cold cases. John's new book "Chasing Evil" is available now.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi, I'm Kate Hudson.
And my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
And what it's like to be siblings.
We are a sibling rivalry.
No, no.
Reveory.
Don't do that with your mouth.
Sibling, Reveory.
That's good.
Hello.
Hey, quiet.
I'm trying to do an intro.
Hi, honey.
No, mom.
Hi, my.
Everyone be quiet.
I'm trying to do an intro.
Okay, I'm sorry.
What I was going to say before anyone spoke.
was that we have John Edward here who is a world-renowned medium
and he was we're lucky enough to be graced in his presence
Kate here's what I was going to say Kate couldn't be here
because she's working and then I was going to say
but we have another incredible human being here
who happened to give birth to myself
her name is Goldie Hahn better known as my mother
who is here as well proud to be right
she's also my mother and gave her in this scenario
you weren't here yet so right right remember that when did you ever stick to a script is what i want to know
never i stick to ideas and then the ideas are left and right i'm feeling the revelry i'm feeling it
you're feeling the right feeling it yes um but you know look we've grown up with the psychics and mediums
mom has been extremely involved in this then of course myself and my sister are as well uh i've
consulted oracles of, you know, should I do this job or not?
Yeah, right.
I'm like, Mom, call somebody.
I don't know if I should do this gig or not.
You know, mom's like, okay, hold on, speed dial, speed dial, speed dial, speed dial.
So I wanted to bring Mommy in, too, to have this experience.
I know I'm so excited.
Yeah, this is.
Of John for a long, long time.
I mean, really, really happy to meet you, John.
And I'm excited and all the amazing work that you have done over these years.
and literally, you know, we're brought in with a gift and how you've used it as extraordinary.
So you've helped a lot of people.
And I know that when you were born and you were a little boy and you were having all of these visions and things,
I mean, looking at it as a kind of a game for you, you know, a little did you know at that time
the impression that you're going to have on so many people.
So anyway, it's a pleasure.
Wow, thank you.
Yeah.
Let's start there.
Where did you grow up?
I grew up on Long Island, a small town called Glencove.
My dad, Irish, American, New York City police officer, career military guy.
Wow.
Mom, very Italian, one of 11.
My grandmother was very into this subject matter, so therefore her children were open to the subject matter.
My dad was not, so there was a polar opposite of belief, and my dad's rule was make sure my son is never around any of that BS.
Yes.
And my mom made sure that I was kept away from it.
They wound up divorcing.
We moved into my grandmother's house, which I always jokingly refer to as the paranormal hub
of activity.
But I had adopted my dad's philosophy that this wasn't real.
So I used to make fun of all the people that came to my grandmother's house to do readings
until I met one woman who read for me and she was the woman who put me on my path.
And I was 15 and she told me that I would change the way millions of people looked at her subject
matter. And I want to emphasize again, I was 15. And she sounded like she was bat-jake crazy.
And I was like, okay, this woman is delusional. But everything she told me happened. And she told me things
that there's no way possible she could have, like I would have had to tell her these things.
And then she would have had to know the people that I was connected to. And then she gave me scenarios
and outcomes that were not logical. And then they happened. And that got my attention. And I say
very openly that I didn't go, oh my God, she told me that I was psyched.
geek, I'm going to go do readings. I actually felt violated. I felt like this woman walked around
my life. I didn't like it. And I wanted to know, well, if people can do this, like, it was real,
how do I stop other people from like doing? Like, what if people can just like do that? And that sent
me to the public library where I read every book in 1985 that was on the shelf at that time was under
the occult section. And at that moment, I was like, well, this is not psychic. This is common sense.
like we all have these moments of like seeing your dead grandfather and i would ask people like
at school haven't you ever seen a dead grandfather and the responses were normally no like you've
never ever just hypothetically got a glimpse of somebody in your family that was dead and they were like
can't say that i had so i kind of realized that okay so maybe some of my earlier experiences
had to be refrained and that became a journey of like analyzing what i experienced
what I see here and feel.
How do I perceive things?
And then I just dove head first.
And within a year, I was doing ratings.
At 16?
Yeah.
Wow.
So, going back just a little bit,
when you're growing up in such a polarizing family,
where you have the Irish cop and the Italian mom,
which is just so amazing, by the way.
I mean, there's like a sitcom there, I think.
Yeah, I know.
But it was almost like you strangely had.
the best of both worlds in that you had this ability, but there was also skepticism in a way from
you. They both, they were a catalyst of how I viewed the subject matter because I think that
inherently I'm an analytical, logical person. I like information. And I was the kid that was
thrown out of religious instructions at least three times because I asked questions that were
deemed inappropriate and at one point blasphemous. And I say this openly, I wasn't trying to be a disruptive
kid, things just didn't make sense, like when people would say things, I'd be like,
but wait, but how come and why? And I was taught, well, you're not supposed to question that.
You're supposed to just believe that. You're just supposed to know that, and that's what we believe.
And I was like, yeah, well, that's not working for me. Like, because the one in one is not adding up
to be five for me. Like, I know it to be two. So where are the other three that you're getting five
from? And people couldn't, like, address those things.
there were those moments and I think what I always want people to be as a seeker because if we're
being a seeker that leads to us exploring and if we have exploration that can lead to discovery
once you have discovery that raises your awareness and once your awareness is raised to something
now you can put that into action that's been my life and it's always like oh I want to learn more
I want to know more and I am inquisitive by nature as well so you put all this together and I became
almost insatiable
with a lot of information. I was like
I wanted to learn more about astrology. I want to learn about numerology.
I wanted to learn about psychometry. All of these things
that were like tools of divination
not to predict, but to
kind of learn how we can live a better life.
So interesting because
I have the question and wonder
how,
what is going on?
What is going on in
your mind? What happens
when you're seeing things?
And you don't know why. And I
think having had some myself, excuse me, I'm looking at that and I am so curious about that very
thing. What is happening? Why is it then when you go to sleep and you have a dream about your
father who's long gone and he's telling you everything's going to be okay and you're sitting on a
mountaintop and it feels so real and then you wake up the next morning and you feel like you've been
blessed? What is that? That's a visit. That's a visit. That's a visit. There's a difference. There's a
difference between a visit and a dream. Dreams fade and dreams are this like amalgamation of what like
kind of comes together in our unconscious mind with like life and fears and thoughts and but a visit is
where they're coming through directly to you and they're going to let you know that it's them and it's
usually positive and very vivid they sometimes look vibrant or young and there could be little
nuggets of information about your future to validate that it was really them but when you wake up
you won't forget it you could have had it 50 years ago exactly remember like it was five minutes ago
Because it was an encounter. It was a real meaning.
So I guess the other question is, because speaking to the other side and having that experience
and being correct about the things that particularly the people from the other side are saying
to me, and it cannot be disputed, period. You often wonder, how did that person know that or the
channel? But my other bigger question is that I'm filled with so much love when I'm talking to someone
on the other side from a facilitator like that, what are they feeling? Do they have emotions?
Where are these entities? What do they feel like? Because when daddy says to me, you know, make sure
you, you know, put away the butter, you know, that was something you always told me. No one knows that,
but what did daddy feel? You know, when my mom came to me and said things to me about the last,
we had and so forth is my point is I would like to know that they're in some form that is real so when
you're doing this and you see the people you hear them they're speaking to you you're sharing
what do you think they're feeling I guess the idea is consciousness like what what is consciousness
when we die does our consciousness die so I think that they're more real than we are I think
the vibration and the frequency that they operate on is
a more real dimension of the essence of who we truly are and that here in the physical form we're
lowering our vibration and we're now playing a role right you guys are amazing actors and you've been
in so many different things but at the core you're you're you but you played roles you're not the
roles you played however each role you played contributes to who you are and your body of work so
of our soul is the, you know, the actor and the lifetimes that we've been in are the roles.
We're an amalgamation of all of that. And then that tapestry, we've all been a part of.
You have been probably in multiple lives and multiple incarnations. And now that just reinforces
what your relationship dynamic is. And that's love, right? The pure essence of who they feel like
is coming from a place of love. And that's what they want to convey. So I always want people
to know that they're okay. We're not. They're, they're, they're
doing all right and they're they're still with us and when they come through they're going to come
through with like regular everyday trivial mundane things things that are not um
groundbreaking or earth shattering but stuff to say hey i know that you did that and by the way
i was with you when you did that exactly i mean i don't want to go into stuff in my life but
truly it's what it is but i wanted to say and have thank you so much for being here i i miss you so
much and so forth but these are very human sort of longings and emotion they don't have that now that's a
that's what i want to get that that is really that is really important many people will say well do they
miss me and i have to be honest to be like not really yeah and they go well what do you mean they
don't miss me and i'm like well they still have us we miss what we don't have physically but they're
still participants in our lives so they don't miss it because they're with us they're still connected
and I always want people to include them.
Like people include them in the negative times,
but they don't always include them in the positive times.
So I'm like always be 50% of the equation
when it's a, you know, a boring day.
It's like on my Instagram feed one day.
I was like, you know what?
There's nothing going on.
My mom's past.
Like there's no birthdays, there's no anniversaries.
I posted a photo of her and me when I was a little boy.
And I just put it up as a post just to honor my mom.
And I thought about it after the fact.
And I was like, you know, she's,
probably like in the other side going, look, look, look, my son just posted something on
earthagram. You know, look, look, look, here. And there's no, there's no reason for me to
have done it, but just to include her and honor her in a way that I was feeling it.
Yes, because we're human and we have these emotions. But when you talk about they,
which is, I guess, a conglomerate of energies, I suppose over years. I think we have different
days, too, right? So we have the they that we're related to in the physical world, right,
that become our family that we're connecting with.
And then we have the day that are our teachers,
because I believe that we all have a spirit team,
like spirit guides that are here to guide us
and help us and give us insights.
And I think it's important to plug into them as well.
So if I'm doing a reading for someone
and I feel like the information is coming from above me,
so imagine you're in the shower, right?
And the water's coming above the shower head
and it's coming this way.
That's coming from my guides.
I trust that I've been working forever.
If I'm reading for you and I'm connecting with somebody
that is your family,
that information comes from around you.
It feels different to me.
So I can tell where the information is coming from.
But ultimately, to go back to the original question of how does it come through, whatever I see
here and feel, and it's very cryptic, and it's kind of like sign language.
So it's not a open conversation.
There's no physical body.
They can't make sound, right?
So it's got to be an energetic form of communication.
So they download information and then the individual who's receiving it, whether it's
me or you, you're going to receive it in your frame of reference, which is why I'll always tell
people, I don't think anybody should read dream books unless you wrote it because you're dreaming
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Did you have to learn that language?
Or did it come to you immediately?
I got a lot through movies and TV, believe it or not.
Really?
Yeah, a lot of my symbolism would come through movies and TV.
I would see scenes of things and I'd be like,
well, that scene reminds me of this.
and then I would say that and then they'd be like yeah it's exactly what happened and I was like
oh okay that's interesting were you a movie guy a TV guy growing up well I used to manage a video store
so let's just say that it came in really handy wow so do you think though that these entities
sort of use this part of who you are to communicate meaning I do I think that they I feel like
not to date myself but I feel like my brain is like the Dewey Decimal system right it's kind of like
like the Dewey Decimal system like you know it's like how do you go through for the young people that
would be Google. But it's like you would kind of like look to see what where how do I get him to say
that. Yeah. Oh, show them this. You know, it's like playing pictonary spirits or charades with the
afterlife. Yeah. And I'm sure there's a lot of times that they must be like, dude, like, it's just a,
it's just a blue hat. Just say the blue hat. Right. Like, what are you going for the team for?
Right. Just say the blue hat. Yeah. One time I did a reading for a woman and her husband passed and her
husband was coming through. And throughout the entire reading. So you know, like when you're watching a
television. They have the little logo of the network that you're watching. So the entire time I'm
reading for her, I'm seeing like a bell, but I don't say that. Oh, no. I start talking about
Philadelphia because I thought Liberty Bell. And she goes, I have any ties to Philadelphia. I'm
like, what about like colonial America? Do you have any type of like, I take this woman down a rabbit
hole of like flag making. Betsy Ross, Franklin's, right. What about Taco? What about Taco?
bell.
To the point that the woman literally says to me, are you sure that's my husband?
And I went, now, 99% of this information is all validated.
I just can't figure this out.
So I go, ma'am, because I can't figure out what this bell means, you're going to, like,
disregard everything else.
She had such a reaction to the bell part, like a physical and emotional reaction.
I was like, oh, what does the bell mean?
When she composed herself, she said, my husband was on a business trip.
when he came back
we had a great weekend
Monday morning came
and he was getting ready
to go to work
he opened up his
attach case briefcase
he had brought her back
a bell from his last
business trip
and he went to her night table
and said
honey if you ever need me
just ring this
and I'll come running
left it on the night table
left
and got into a car accident
and died
it was the last thing
then he said to her
where did I go
Philadelphia
yeah you went to philly making flags yeah talking about dolly madison ice cream like you name it i've
and this poor man was probably like dude yeah what do you just say fell right so i've learned
i've learned over the years yeah i'm going to say everything i'm seeing hearing and feeling i'm going to
interpret it as to what it means for me and then i'm going to acknowledge the fact that i could be wrong right
and and i think that's what my style of teaching about the subject matter has been and and that's because
15, 16, when I came into this work
and I met people who were doing this
that were 40 and 50 and 60 years old
and they had years doing it.
They kind of made me feel like they were here
and I was here.
And they were unapproachable
and untouchable.
And I was like, you know what?
I don't like the way they read.
I don't like the fact that they're making it seem like
we know all and the client can't be a part of this.
And I made a decision that I was going to be inclusive
and teach about what I was experiencing
because ultimately it's not about the medium.
It is about the client.
And if it's about the client, then my job should be to get you to recognize that you don't need me.
Nobody needs the medium.
What they need is an understanding and the philosophy that they can make these connections.
And all the medium should be doing is validating what we believe already to be true.
Amazing.
Kate, you there?
Yes, I'm here.
And I've been, like, biting my tongue.
I know.
I want you to come in.
I know it's hard to break in when you're, you know, getting glam done.
But why don't you?
Well, I have so many questions.
but I, you know, I, I experience a lot of sight, like a lot of this.
Kate, do you remember meeting me on the Zoom?
Yes.
Okay, so that was a really pivotal night for me because that was at the beginning of the COVID pandemic.
And you guys, you guys were all having that, like, cool group, FaceTime Zoom-y thing that was
happening every night and folks were bringing, like, show and tell people to the groups.
And Kim Kardashian was like, hey, would you come do this?
And I said, I don't know if I could do that, but I'll try.
and you were amazing.
That was an amazing night.
So thank you for being so gracious
and helping to make me feel comfortable
because you definitely did
because I was a little blown away
by the amount of people that were on that
and the caliber of people that were on right.
Yeah, I was like, you know,
I don't really have a poker face.
So I was like, I was looking at the screens
and I was like, you know.
It was an interesting group.
Yes.
But I guess I wonder, like I wonder about
how you hear
I have
experiences where I hear dialogue
and I wonder
if you like I know everybody has a different
way of accessing but
do you ever actually like
does it download as dialogue
ever for you? So it downloads
as thoughts so you're saying dialogue
I'm going to say thoughts so I'll have these
thoughts that kind of come in my head
and then I will go to the
analytical part of it to try to figure
out like okay what does that mean where am i getting this from um how do i say this so whatever i see
here and feel and for the people that are listening when you guys if you if you have ever read
something and then you had to go back and reread something because you had another thought that came in and
you were like exactly well that's a but that's a reading right that's what a reading feels like i'm
focusing i'm focusing on one thing and then i'm paying attention to the other part of that which comes in
so when you do you think it's inherited yes it's definitely inherited you do it's absolutely inherited
and italian your italian side i mean i mean i'm wondering like if italians seem to have quite a history
of psychic and well there's a lot of superstition that goes on that side of the family you know
when you got to talk about the maloica and who overlooked you and the bad energy and what do you
do to get rid of it and prayer and when your grandmother has a you know a a a
a nightstand, a night table, that a bureau that's got better saints than the church,
you know, you grow up with this, like, faith-based, superstitious, anything's possible.
Yes, your grandfather was sitting at the dining room table. That's who you saw kind of vibe.
Wow. Right. How did you square, or how did both questions, how did your,
how did your mother square Catholicism and? So my mom was not a churchgoer. She was not.
No, she was the, you have to go to church. And I would,
like, well, why do I have to go to church? You're not going to church. And then I got the do as I say,
not as I do speech. Yeah. So my grandmother dragged me to church. Pretty much every day until I went to
first grade. On your dad's side? My mom's side. Your mom's side. Yeah. So your mom was not a church
goer. Not a churchgoer. No. And your dad was Catholic. Yep. And so how did that work with sort of
mother was very vested and, you know, if you want to call it, psychic phenomenon and so
forth. So probably that's something that the church would look a little bit down. That's what I'm
saying. How do you, how would they square religion and sort of this gift? When my mom and dad
divorced, I remember we were at a family wedding or something and my mom sat in the back row of the
church away from everybody else in the family. And my mom was a little bit of a, you know,
she was a moody cancerian. I'll leave it at that. So I thought she was making a choice to sit back
there. And then I said, come, come sit with us. And she was like, no. And then after the fact,
I said, why wouldn't you come sit with us? And she said, well, because I'm a divorced woman,
I'm basically excommunicated as a Catholic. And I was like, would you get a letter from Rome?
I'm like, come sit with your family. And she said, no, no, no. So I grew up in the family that
was if you missed mass and didn't go to confession, you couldn't say an act of contrition and
receive. It was like, no, no, you have to go to confession type of thing. So even though she didn't
really go. She still believed in what the rules were. And therefore, I thought that because of what I
did, then I too was sitting in the back view of the church. And then on one day, I got an appointment
where at 2 o'clock, my appointment was at Francis. And when I opened the door, there was a nun
there. And it was Sister Francesca. And I said, can I help you? And she said, are you John? And I said,
I am. She goes, I'm your two o'clock. And I went, oh, okay, come on in. You know, and my grandmother
now, super Catholic is like a nun is coming to see my grandson, right? Like, you know, the house has been
annoying. And I bring her upstairs, and she goes into the room that I'm going to read in. And I said,
I'll be right with you. And then I went into the other room when I called my girlfriend, which is not
my wife. And I was like, there's a nun here. And she's like, why? I went for a reading. And she goes,
then why are you calling me?
I go, because like, I'm distracted.
She's like, why are you distracted?
Is she topless?
I was like, Sandra.
I'm like, no.
She's like, full on in her nun habit and whatever.
She's like, John, I am working.
She's like, go read the nun.
Yeah.
So I compose myself.
I go back in the room.
Title of your next book.
I sit there.
Go read the nun.
I sit there and I was like, I do the reading for her.
And at the end, she said, do you know why I'm here?
I said, well, I was assuming you wanted to hear from your family.
And she said, no.
I was here to have you arrested.
And I was like, excuse me?
She goes, yeah, she says, I run a grief group.
She goes, and all my grief patrons that come to the group are sharing your name.
And one by one, they were all coming to you.
She said, I needed to make sure that you were legitimate.
And I was like, and how's the rest of my day looking?
And she goes, it looks amazing.
She goes, and it's clear God gave you a beautiful ability.
And I'm very pleased that you'll be helping me with my grief group.
And I said, I will?
And she said, yes, you will.
And it will be for free.
And for years after that, I would do groups at the convent in the basement when she led her grief groups.
Oh, my God, what a great story.
Wow.
On the same day, the exact same day, my last client hears me telling the story and says to me, I think I should tell you something.
And I said, no, no, no, I need to have a clean blank slate when I read somebody.
I don't like any information.
I don't want any bias, right?
And to be really honest, I was really hungry because I don't eat when I'm going to read.
So I just wanted to like now get through this last reading so I can go eat.
And I sit down with him and I said, I have your dad here.
And he goes, you do?
And I went, I do.
He goes, I'm going to need to use your phone.
And I said, why?
He goes, because I just had dinner with him.
And if he's dead now, oh, my mom must be very upset.
And I like looked at him.
I was like, oh, this kind of snark is not going to work for me when I'm hungry.
So I said, well, if it's not your dad, then I have your father-in-law.
He goes, I can assure you.
you do not have my father-in-law.
And I go, why did you have dinner with him, too?
And he goes, no, I'm not married.
I'm.
And when he said, I'm, all of a sudden, like, his clothing all went black in my mind.
And I saw the collar and I went, oh, my God, you were a priest.
Oh.
He goes, that's what I wanted to tell you when I heard you tell the other story.
So I read for him, and at the end of the reading, he told me the same thing.
He said that same thing, his patrons, his, you know, come, the church people were coming to see me.
And he wanted to make sure that I was legit.
and um and then i looked at him and i went why today like why would like why would the universe send me
a priest and a nun on the same day with the same purpose and he like squarely hit me through the
eyes he goes because you feel like you're an outcast and you don't have a place and you don't
feel like you belong anymore he goes and i think we're here to let you know that you could still do
what you do you could still help people and you're allowed to have your faith in god wow yeah and it was
like I felt like the universe sent me like not just a life preserver but like a life raft to get into
I guess I did feel that way I did feel like an outcast they did kind of believe that I was excommunicated
and that brought me to a place of like you know what faith is free religion people pay for yeah
it's great oh that's very interesting did were you I feel the same way how old were you in this
started to happen when you started to feel these things but 15 was when I started that's when it was
15 not not not before what I
had it before but I just you know but what what was that feeling when you were a younger
kid like what astral project I used to like have a lot of out of body experiences um I knew
stuff about the family I vividly remember sitting um in the car with my mom and I said tell me
the story again when you were 13 and you were clamming at the beach and you cut your ankle
and she's like yeah that was like blah blah blah and she stopped and she went why you why are
you asking me that I never told you that how do you know that and I went well clearly you
She goes, no, I didn't tell you that.
She goes, I know I didn't tell you that.
I go, well, then somebody else had to say that.
And she's like, no, only two other people know that.
She goes, and none of them would have told you.
I was like, well, then you clearly had to tell me.
So I had a lot of those moments.
I remember being in fourth grade.
I got in trouble in fourth grade.
We used to have like, you know, 10 vocabulary words for spelling.
And then they give you the extra credit word and the extra credit word.
And I should just set it up that where I sat in the room, the teacher was diagonal all
way to the left.
And I was like all the way to the right.
and the teacher gave with the words
and then the extra credit word
in fourth grade was Flem
and every kid spelled it FL
EM
and I spelled it correctly
so they asked my mom
who was the medical professional
in the family and she said
well his aunt's a nurse
but they don't really see each other
why and she said well he spelled
something correctly that he should not
logically have been able to spell
so they called me into the room and they said
how did you how did you know that
and I said well she wrote it on the board
the teacher said
no I didn't and my mom had to you know do not lie to me it was her thing so I'm like oh my
god she's going to think I lied to her and I was like yes you did and the teacher said no John
I did not but I can tell you sitting here I remember seeing it on her board so she logically
couldn't have gotten up from the desk right walked over and like put it on the board and went
back I wasn't thinking of that in fourth grade I just remember going she said phlegm I looked up
There it was, and I wrote down what I saw.
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We open today talking about curiosity, you know, and searching and seeking and trying to understand
everything, and I get that. And this, I think, in everyone,
really can feel the question, is how did this happen? Why? Why do some people have this gift?
Can this gift be nurtured, number one? Is it frightening to have this gift? What if it's not a gift?
What if it's just a muscle? What if it's just an ability? That was going to be my next question.
Can you, because everyone has this. Everybody has it. And I think people have certain abilities that are
better than others. Yes. Yes. And I think the gift,
is when we recognize it.
The gift is in the connection and the communication.
I really believe that everyone has the ability.
I agree.
And to different degrees, they have it.
Right, right.
Does it diminish with age?
No, it hasn't.
Not for me, at least, not yet.
40 years in.
And somebody said to me not too long ago,
would you like to see crossing over in reruns?
I went, no.
And they were like, why not?
I used to watch you all the time.
I was like, no, I would not like to see that in reruns.
I said, I don't think it's a good representation.
of where I am today.
I was like, back then it was like,
I got the information. I passed it on.
The person said yes.
And now I feel like I'm able to go deeper
and I'm able to look at the intersection
of the client, me, and the universe
and try to figure out why am I supposed to be talking to them?
What am I supposed to help them with?
Like, what's the obstacle block is your lesson?
And that was not something that I was able to do on TV.
Giving yourself the honor of being a person that can do that.
You have given your time for 25.
years with an FBI agent.
Yeah.
This is a really interesting, I would say, transition, evolution, if you would call it
an evolved evolution, because it's also being not just someone who can read the other
side or bring people in to make people feel better or learn, but you really are helping
on a whole other way, which is answering questions that sometimes feel unanswerable,
to actually serve the larger and the greater good.
How does that feel?
Overwhelming when you put it like that, to be honest.
You know, in the theme of my life,
it's always been people trying to expose me.
And that experience was no different.
I did a lot of radio.
I loved radio.
Radio was live.
Nobody knew what I looked like.
I could just do my thing.
They knew what my name stood for.
I know the feeling.
you know what I'm saying? And I couldn't be accused of being edited because it's live radio.
Random callers calling in. Yeah. So that was like my first love, that live interactivity.
And I was on a New York City radio station pretty frequently. It was called Scott Todd
morning show on WPLJ in New York. And Agent Robert Hilland used to hear it and get really angry
that they were putting me on because he thought it was not real and that it was a bit that they
were doing. And he felt like it was not okay. So he was,
he took it upon himself to come to me and he was going to expose me like the nuns like the priest
right and he came under the guys of a very real case it was a very real case that he brought to me
but he brought controlled items so he set me up in our first meeting and he laid out like nine
evidence bags but he had previously gone to four different women in his office and said can you
give me something of yours i'll bring it back tomorrow and he came but the evidence
bags in front of me. And the way he tells it is I took the four evidence bags. I had nothing
to do with the case and pushed him to the side and said, this is nothing to do with your case.
Let's focus on this. And then I began giving him information about the missing moment that
he came to me about. And this is where for the people that are listening, this is a teaching
moment. There's something called psychometry. And psychometry is where you can hold on to a person's
object. And you could read the energy of the person. A quick example of that is if anybody shows someone
a photo of your family, of your party, of a vacation, and you say, describe this, they can accurately
describe that photo by looking at the energy of it.
It's just energy.
So never give a psychic a photo of someone who's passed or an object because they could
read the energy of it.
And it sounds like they're connecting, but they're not.
So I'm not connecting with the person who's missing.
I'm connecting with the energy of the person to try to give information.
And from that experience of working with him, I then wound up reading for him and his family came through.
So what happened to me in my first reading, I wound up doing to him.
And he had to go to his family to find out what I was saying was accurate.
And then that blew his mind.
And then his very, very, very, very skeptical investigative mind and personality said,
can you help me on my cases? And I said, I don't know, but I'm intrigued. Let's try. And, you know,
we were talking about this earlier. I didn't trust him. And he didn't trust me. So the two of us were
doing this kind of like thing. He's doing his investigative thing. I'm doing my psychic thing. And
neither one of us was sure about the other person's intentions. And that fostered the greatest trust.
and we became like brothers over the last three decades.
Wow.
And there's a lot of cases that I worked on with him,
but I say this openly.
I did not work for the FBI.
This book has been vetted by the FBI.
It took over nine months to get it approved.
Wow.
Yeah.
Took over nine months.
And I solved nothing.
He did.
So just like when a client comes to me who's deeply grieving,
I can't fix her healer grief.
I can only do what I do in the hopes that they take that and do the work.
Yeah.
So there's no quick fixes.
for anybody thinks like go get a reading quick fix yeah not real you know it's interesting but is he
detective he's an ex-fbiator right who was a cop first he was a cop that's when he contacted you
yeah he was a cop and then he became so yeah the only reason why in my in my estimation the only reason
he contacted you is because he was half a believer because there's no world where you would say oh
I'll bring this random dude in because I want to prove that he's wrong I think in the back of his
mind was like, he could, I think I believe this and I think he can help me. I think he was like
95% non-believer when I first met him and five percent hopeful of just maybe. Because why would
he bring you in otherwise? Because there was no leads on the case. He wouldn't go, he, he says
this openly. He goes, I would never go to, I would never go to John on stuff where we had leads.
Right. He goes, I would go to John when they were no leads. Yeah. Yeah. When people are so
defensive and so clear against something, it's almost like they wish they want. Meaning that,
they're so curious.
It's like thou protest too much.
And what's amazing with him is his journey in the 25 years from when I first met him
to who he is today.
Just that story in the book, the transformation that he goes through, he's kind of like a wow.
And I want people to be like reflective of how are you chasing evil in your life?
And what are you supposed to learn from kind of exploring the dark corners, right?
Is that exploration for him and going on that journey?
there's a lot of loss and yeah you know the the the amount of people that are out there doing
this kind of work meaning not the psychic work but like the protection of people work the
fighting for victims and and their rights and their memories they don't have names and faces but
they're out there doing it yeah and i i kind of feel like this is a great validation of those people
yeah i kind of feel honored to have been like like watching from the sidelines this process yeah
i want to get into the book but first i i want to there's a few other questions i have
just about, you mentioned something a while back with these entities.
Is that what you would call them?
Yeah, energies.
Energies that essentially are we born pure love?
Meaning is every energy that exists pure love?
I'm going to say yes.
So does that mean there is no dark energy?
No, I think that the darkness lies in the heart of man.
You know, like do I believe in positive and negative?
I do.
Do I believe that there's evil?
do but I'm less concerned about the evil and spirit because I haven't encountered that. I'm more
concerned about the evil and the human experience because that does some serious damage. So like I was
on TikTok live and I was doing like, you know, some live stuff promoting this book and, you know,
people were coming up saying, oh, dark forces, negative energies, you know, demons and all that kind of
stuff. And I'm like, have you turned on the news? Like have you looked at what's actually happening?
I go, if you want to see evil, like you could see that very, very clearly. But folks like to
kind of suppress that and then point fingers of other things. And I think that there is positive
negative in the universe and we have to choose where we want to align our energies. But what about,
let's just say from a hypothetical, Jeffrey Dahmer dies, Hitler dies, what happens to their energy?
I can only tell you based on theory because I haven't connected with them. Of course. Right. So based upon
lighter versions of that, like dark energies that have done negative things. Yeah.
Those energies are not that any longer, but they have to carry the weight of what it was that they did.
So we don't escape anything, right?
And I believe that the judicial system of our world pales in comparison to the universal judicial system because we can't escape anything universal.
It's always got to be balanced.
Like the universe is always going to balance out the equation.
So if people do negative things, they have to sit in understanding of,
what that was and what was the ripple effect when you do readings and you have family members come in
who may have been an abusive father abusive grandfather happens all the time it's that happen all the time
so how do you how do you deal with that when you are giving a reading and do they come in
with that same vitriol that same dark energy they don't they don't they don't they come through
with an they come through with an understanding of who they were and what they did it's a very it's a very
interesting session when that happens because the person who's sitting in front of me is now forced
to confront the reality of the experience and then has to recognize hopefully that on a timeline
when you look from the moment of that person's passing back nothing changes right that's history
that happened it's the past it's you can't change that it's a catalyst that makes you who you are
but now it's the choice of that person's gone they're not here they can't hurt you
you anymore. They can't do that thing to you. They want you to release that. Not for them,
but for the person who's here. And that is usually something where the person has to work with
their counselor or therapist. Like, that is not me. Right. But I would imagine there are some catharsis
in that. Huge. You know. Huge catharsis. Right. If they're willing to go there. I've had people
shut it down. Oh, really. Can't shut it down. It's very hard. It is, it is hard. I think,
unfortunately, the more knowledge of the sickness around the person that is inflicting pain
is an avenue toward forgiveness.
I think forgiveness is the great aspect of love and also the great ability to be happy.
So in doing so, when you do confront, like I did have a moment with a girlfriend who's passed,
and she said some funny things that were communicated to me.
one was we laughed about her socks and she was live and she made joke it's about her socks in the
reading but she also said i wish i'd have been nicer to my husband a reflection it's an example of what
you're saying that it was an awareness of somehow but you know interesting pure love pure where that soup
is that incredible area of creation that where nothing is formed but everything comes from where
It's basically matter comes from and everything.
And in that soup, I feel like it's just, this is just me, but I feel that it's pure love.
And when I say love, it's not the word, it's the feeling.
Well, when you look at people who like have had near-death experiences, right,
there's a collective word that I've noticed they all use.
And the collective word that they use is what they felt when they were there.
and it's usually the word bliss
you talk about the word bliss
nobody ever says like
hey how are you doing today
I'm blissful right
it's just not an earth word right
it's not an earth word right
people don't say I'm blissful
so I've recognized that there were earth words
and then there were other side words
afterlife words so are they happy
no they're blissful
you know we're looking for measuring happiness here
do they have remorse or regret
no that's an earth word
they have understanding, which is bigger and deeper at a level that sometimes I feel like we can't
comprehend. And the same thing, like we have love in the way that we experience love. And then
there's love that it feels like when they're coming through, which is what you're describing
in that soup. It's like this bright source of connection and energy. John, this is, it's too good.
It's too good. So there's so much more to talk with you about, okay, including your new book,
which is chasing evil, shocking crimes,
supernatural forces and an FBI agent's search for hope and justice.
There's so much to get into that we're going to do another.
We're going to do a part two because you are that compelling.
So we're going to get to it all in part two.
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