Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Stars Tell All (Literally) Part Two

Episode Date: June 6, 2025

In this episode, the famous AstroTwins offer our fiery Aries a reading we probably shouldn’t be privy to, but this is a ‘chart’ topping talk, and we are totally going to listen!   Plus, they explain why Oliver is the way he is. (Hint: it’s because he’s a Virgo)!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This is an IHeart podcast. September is a great time to travel, especially because it's my birthday in September, especially internationally. Because in the past, we've stayed in some pretty awesome Airbnbs in Europe. Did we've one in France, we've one in Greece,

we've actually won in Italy a couple of years ago. Anyway, it just made our trip feel extra special. So if you're heading out this month, consider hosting your home on Airbnb. With the co-host feature, you can hire someone local to help manage everything, Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host.

I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The Moment is a space for the conversations

we've been having us father and daughter for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the IHeart Radio app, podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned

and angry patients. You think you're finally like in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack,

where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream. It was a battlefield.

It's a freaking war zone. These people are animals. The Model Wars podcast peels back the glossy cover and reveals a high-stakes game where survival meant more than beauty. Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatis, this is the untold story of an industry built a ruthless ambition. to Model Wars on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.

And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling reverie. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Reveory. That's good.

All right. We're back with the Astrox twins. Let's just get into it. It's so fun. It's so fun. I think we need to get more into me because it's just all, for some reason, it's all about like your weird life.

I got insecure about it, too. I'm like, well, what about Kate? like that's part of my problem i think where i can't just be selfish because i know worried about like you i'm like well they're talking about me too much like what about kate i know kate's probably thinking they're talking about all of her too much and i'm like i know she's thinking that's what i'm gonna say no i was loving and i even wrote down the dates and you didn't that's how much i care about you because my yacht is a little crazy right now I would love to know, like, is there anything like about past lives or like future type stuff that comes up in the chart?

Oh, yeah, definitely. And we did what's called a composite chart, which is a blended chart of both of your charts, to see like what you are as a duo, too. So we can tell you that. Yeah. Let me grab it. But together. Yeah. together you guys are a cancer with an Aquarius moon and a Gemini rising so you're very much about

family but the moon the inner you is like taking this objective kind of distant look at how thing you know like Aquarius moon would would not be close in their childhood but like as you started to form as people you your bond did too and the Gemini rising is like talking about things so hello having a podcast together. Yeah, it's perfect. Yeah. Oh, that's so cute that we're cancer together. Yeah.

There's a protective thing you have for each other. Like very heartfelt energy between you, but also objective with the Aquarius moon. But yeah, you asked about what are their north and south nodes together. Yeah, your north and south node are Aries south node and Libra north node. So it started out as a relationship of. you know, it did start probably a sibling rivalry and fighting and even like bullying each other a little bit or just like, you know, till you found that Libra North Node middle ground piece. But like really wanting to individuate.

But then when you did come together and were able to each bring your strengths, it was probably pretty epic. That's great. Cool. Yeah. Wow. Did kids come up on there? Like our children?

Or does that... Sure. Yeah, what's... Like, who's the better parent? I'm kidding. You are the stricter one. Yes. That Capricorn moon, you know?

Like, and the Virgo North Node, probably surprisingly involved in what your kids eat and their structured bedtime. And I'm not, right? Oh, my poor kids. You're like, let's just have burgers every night with that tourist south note. You're about the fun.

indulgence. Yeah. You push over with your Pisces moon and she's like hardcore with the Capricorn. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's so interesting. Wow. Wow. Yeah.

It's, mm-hmm. Yeah. But, you know, yeah, I mean, you can look at everything in a chart. You can look at so much. You worry, though, more, Oliver. You worry, but then you're like, you know, let's have dessert for dinner anyway. Mm-hmm. I worry. Exactly. I do. I'm like, yeah, fuck it.

Yeah. Then you're like fuck it. Yeah. Uh-huh. Totally. Yeah, I feel like your Ares rising hasn't been fully discussed, Oliver, because it is, does make you, like, you know, maybe you can yell at them sometimes, get a little frustrated with them. Or that's where that, that's where that, like, frustration, that impatience comes in. So, yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. A little bit of time to yourself.

Yeah. wanting to be a good dad, like, you know, just whatever you're doing, you're going to, like, compare it to what you're not doing and measure it is not enough. So stop doing that. No, I know. No, I did if it was that easy. I also see, Kate, that you're a 22-4 in numerology, which is like a heavy master number, too, the master builder. So you really like to build relationships and then together, create.

something that lasts. And Oliver, you're a three life path, which is like a lot of different interests. That's my lucky number. That's your number. Is it? Okay. Okay.

Well, threes do tend to be a little bit tortured souls in terms of their identity. They do. Yeah. But they're like, you activate. You are exalted. You're a master builder. Oliver, you're a hot mess.

But I strangely revel. and being tortured. I know. It's like when Tony Robbins said to Oliver, you really, you really love to hold on of that trophy,

don't you? I mean, like, Ernest Hemingway is my idol. Oh, God. Yeah. Ollie. Yeah.

But I'm just saying like, just that tortured thing is strangely romantic to me. That's why you should be writing. Exactly. Boom. Get quiet. Right.

Create a character that's, I literally think, show with a character that's like you because look you are um even though you have that aries rising and torus south node which is very red-blooded guy you're very in touch with like the kind of you're in touch with your alpha and your beta male but i feel like a character based on the torturous themes that go through your head it'd be very interesting and instructive yes yeah oh for real yeah it's weird the underbelly the underbellies. So it fascinating and interesting to me because we all have it yet we put on this

facade of like, everything's good, but everyone has their dark shit. And I'm interested in that. That's your Scorpio North now. You're transparent about it, which a lot of men aren't. So I think you need to turn that into sort of a strength and make some money off of it. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Script. And of course, Kate will executive produce it until she gets a more. then goes off to the body to stand crab beach. Exactly. September always feels

like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next,

what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb,

I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution.

that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country.

This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHard Podcasts present. IVF disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care.

Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled.

By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio, app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say, hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like...

What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected. to hear. The 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio. app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Power struggles, shady money, drugs, violence, and broken promises. It's a freaking war zone. These people are animals. There's no integrity. There's no loyalty. That's all gone. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream. It was a battlefield. Book, book, book, make deals. Let's get models in. Let's get them out.

And the models themselves? They carried scars that never fully healed. Until this day, honestly, if I see a measuring tape, I freak out. The Model Wars podcast peels back the glossy cover and reveals a high-stakes game where survival meant more than beauty. Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatis, this is the untold story of an industry built

on ruthless ambition. Listen to Model Wars on the I-Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What about relationships? My chart must be very interesting when it comes to relationships. Your moon is in the relationship house. What signs are your partners or your spouses? Erin is February 26, so she's a Pisces.

She's a Pisces. Okay. And Danny is a Gemini. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Aw. Venus and Mars are the planets to look at for love. So Kate, you have your, yours are in really interesting placements.

So Venus in, they're actually in really, like they're in happy places. You have Venus and Pisces, which is it's like most romantic, free-flowing place for Venus to be. It's the exalted position using that word. That really is what astrologers call it. And then Mars and Aries. So that's where things get a little bit tough because Venus and Pisces is like, oh my God, take me away.

Let's just sweep me off into La La Land and then Mars and Ares comes in as like, I'm in charge, bitch, you know? You've just like summed up my relationship issues in like one sentence. That is genius stuff. It's so true. as a Gemini men do not mind

as long as you don't like interfere with whatever it is like whether it's like eating cereal while playing video games one Saturday a month until 3 p.m. They'll like let you boss them around. Yeah. I feel like

for an Ares Mars which is what I am as well as the sun in Mars which and Mercury. Yep. I'm like I feel like I feel like for me

It's also, now that I've gotten older, it's like, I will always say what is on my mind. You know what I mean? Totally. It doesn't mean that it's personal. It doesn't mean that I don't love you. But I am going to tell you the truth. Like, I'm going to tell you exactly what is on my mind. Yeah, but you have enough water in there to kind of balance it out.

I think that Venus and Pisces softens it. And you don't mind, it's not like you have to be. in charge all the time. But you do need someone who can, like, meet that Mars and Ares and be, like, a man with a plan. Like, there's no, like, pussy footing around. Yes. That's, yes, this is, you're right on it.

Yeah. You will be direct, but then, you'll, like, follow it up with lots of love and soothing. But you are going to make sure you say the thing that you mean. You might cushion it, but it's getting said. I'm really good. I'm getting, but I'm, like, really good at cushioning. Yeah, you are. And then Oliver, you are, you are, you know, it's like you have the North Note and Uranus. So Uranus is the rebel. You're just a rebel.

And whatever other people are doing, you are almost like this, you've adopted a contrarian role, I think, in relationship. But he's got Mars and Venus and Libra, though. Yeah. So you do want to harmonize, but you don't want to lose yourself in the harmony. of it all. So it's, I mean, the theme all over your chart is like, you want to be connected. He does like the high harmony, though. Yeah. Yeah. I love it. Yes. You usually goes in for the high. Make sure that you stand out and don't blend in. So it's, it's relationships for you are more of like a learning ground than anything. But, but a safe haven. When you do feel like you're with someone who really understands you.

your wife's the Pisces, that's your moon signs. Are you going to feel emotionally safe with her? Like, then you kind of chill out with all that other stuff. And you're just like, all right, let's just enjoy the good times. Wait, do both of you sing? Do you sing to over? Kate really sing. Kate doesn't give me as much credit for my voice as she should because it is the voice of her angel.

You've got an amazing falsetto. It's an incredible voice. Oh, my God. I've got a lot to give again. Ollie, stop with your yard vibe, okay? No, you're yachting me. Stop yodding. You're yodding like crazy.

I literally listened. I just shot my yod. You played a song that you did when you were like playing a rock star on like the WB or something. And I was like I was so, I was so glowingly loving about your voice. Oh yeah. I got it's all there, you guys. I'm just thinking this Libra North Note that you have. Like there's maybe there's a harmonizing track that needs.

Maybe you need to start singing together. Maybe it's an album instead of a lot. He really does have a good falsetto. It's an impressive falsetto. Yeah, I'm going to cover cake out. He was in Aries. I mean, no, Virgo. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. He was. He was spirit guide. Hey, God. That's what you need. That's what the Scorpio. The Scorpio North Node needs more.

Freddie Mercury, too, a little bit. Like, oh, my God, don't do this because all the whimsy might be, the whimsy might show up wearing his leather pants and like a white tank top. I'm going to be like, or queen. Love that. Yes. So down. So for me, like, what about like near future other than this next, like, year where you were

saying goes into the 12th house and. Yeah, right now. Right now. Now, Saturn, Neptune, right on top of your Mercury. So just get out there. Get on social media more. I hate to say it. You know, like be out publicizing, talking.

Just out in the world. Out in the world. With your art. And, yeah. Talking about the album or talking about the show. But just like doing more fun kind of. Just enjoy it. Speaking of whimsical, but like little whimsical.

you know, bits of you performing or things like that. The nodal opposition that you're in right now is also, like, you know, really you might be working on some health stuff right now, like just balancing the brain scans, but yeah, like just making sure like your everyday health is in alignment with like the flow, the hydration, as well as like some new habits, maybe even like. moderate like moderating your workouts in some way so that they're if they're like weight like bringing a little more spirituality and in with them as well as I love this yeah making sure they're like happening in a way that feels pleasurable not exhausting yeah it's really important in that

notal opposition like also examining some of the rules you've put on yourself and like seeing where some need to be a little softer and some there's a little more discipline. Like there's really this balancing of like... I like that. I love loving all of this stuff. Good. Good, good, good.

It's almost like you're saying, you're actually saying the things that are for both Oliver and I said, like happening in real time right now, you know? Wow, yeah. Totally. Like I was just talking about that with a girlfriend about, about the difference between like pushing, yourself to know how hard you can push yourself versus when you feel good in your body.

Like what actually makes you feel good in your body and strong. But like, yeah, but like being in the body, being embodied as opposed to like in Pisces South node like, do I really want to be doing this? Am I, you know, right now? This free spirited floating energy. And now you're like, yeah, when you're in the nodal opposition, you really sometimes completely break from the way you've thought of yourself and like find a new expression of your identity like you unplug from all these roles so i mean you're doing that with your show and

and and your music and all these new ways so yeah cool i was just writing uh i did this thing where like write i just like stream of consciousness right every morning and oh cool a couple weeks ago that was my whole thing was like this idea that people are so so stuck on what it is to when someone changes their mind about something. Like there's no room for people to actually change direction. That one day you actually thought that this was the way you wanted to live your life. And then you woke up the next morning and you're like, well, wait a minute. No, I don't feel that way anymore.

And that we don't, so many people don't allow space for people to actually change their mind. Like to reestablish who they are. and then like the whole concept of like if we're not changing then we're you know we have a therapist that we love who always says like if you're not changing then you're right no longer in that vessel like you're you know it's like so we're constantly changing and both of you are like kind of the leaders of that with the aries rising and the aries sun like oliver you'll be feeling these aries transits too it's like anyone who has an aries rising or sun right now is kind of of charged with the task of bringing, we're moving out of this Pisces energy, the last sign, like the 12th house, to the Ares energy, the first sign. So passivity or just waiting for things to happen is fine. But I think there's like, I mean, all over the place, we can see it. You know, the world needs new conversations and leads new ideas and people do need to, we're going to have to change anyway. So getting through that discomfort with change is like,

part of, I think, the Saturn and Neptune and Ares transit that's happening for the world. But you guys having such strong Ares in your chart and what you're doing here is like helping people to open themselves up to like stepping past the fear of doing something new. So I love that you were journaling about that. But so right on time. Getting the downloads, getting the download. And sometimes you have to get lost in order to find what that next. octave or vibration of you.

Sometimes there are times in our lives where we get established and other times where we have to get lost and experiment. Yeah, I like that. What about my career moving forward like bigger, longer, longevity stuff? Like, it's going to stay creative

because I don't know anything else, but I'm always in limbo, it feels like, between sort of doing what that makes me money and then sort of, really discovering. Well, you've had, you've had Cludo, which is this, like, intense shadow worker in your career house for basically over 10 years. And it's at the end of that cycle. So I think you're, like, really starting to crystallize a lot of those lessons.

At the very top of your chart is a point called the midheaven. It's the beginning of the 10th house. And you have a Capricorn midheaven, and that's great for, like, you're sort of supposed to be. be the dad of the at work like the i was going to say what was coming to me with pluto finishing that long journey for you is like what part of your dad have you not let go of or forgive it because whatever that is you're going to not you're going like sometimes you define yourself in opposition to a person who's hurt you or let you down but you'll be limiting yourself if you can never let yourself kind of play in that area because he was like that and I don't want to be like him.

So Pluto is where we project onto others. So if there's any of that still lingering around after Hoffman, I would explore that before Pluto leaves. And I don't know if that resonates at all. And I love it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Your money also will come from investments probably with your Scorpio North node. Yeah. There it is. That tech investment is definitely coming through. I mean, that might be bigger than you actually realize. And I feel like maybe that's, does that tie into the dad thing? Like letting yourself really be successful with money or? I don't know.

I mean, look, I, there's money and then there's, there's art, Congress and art, right? Like, I, money, I'm always living sort of on my heels, you know. And I feel like if there's an influx of cash, it's like, it's just relief for me that's all there's just relief i know money can't buy you happiness but i'm pretty happy so if i can back up the brink's truck you know what i'm saying yeah torus south node needs resources and a certain baseline level of security in order to go into those other realms i know it sounds crazy too but let's just say that brink's truck is backed up i feel like it would free myself up

to just be more creative or to just do things like without fear or essentially like i'm crazy i'm good I've got I'm good I'm secure now family's secure everything's fucking good all right let me just be weird and like experiment well that's the Taurus energy and when I said entitled before it's really kind of this it's that is like one expression of a Taurus South node but another expression is like I need resources I need to make sure I'm Taurus as a provider you have lifetimes where you are like a hardworking provider also so in order to go into those mysterious Scorpio realms and explore new things, you want to make sure you have a certain baseline. But that's the challenge.

You know, there's that saying seeing is believing or believing is seeing. So you need to work on the believing before, like, because that, like, when I, I had a mentor who once said to someone like that they were like saying to a fireplace, like, well, give me some fire and then I'll give you wood. And that always stuck with me because look at me. Maybe we're in your life, you're walking around like that, refusing to actually give wood to the fire and then being pissed off that it isn't lit. Good analogy. I love that. September Owens feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go.

go next, what kind of place will stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host

at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations,

but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized. I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith.

And that's what I believe in. To bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way

to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to the moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant

about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHard Podcasts present IVF Disrupted, The Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company

that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny.

Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. From a very rural background myself, my dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.

And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where Stan up comedy and murder take center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Power struggles, shady money, drugs, violence, and broken promises. It's a freaking war zone.

These people are animals. There's no integrity. There's no loyalty. That's all gone. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream. It was a battlefield. book book book make deals let's get models in let's get them out and the models themselves they carried scars that never fully healed till this day honestly if i see a measuring tape i freak out the model wars podcast peels back the glossy cover and reveals a high stakes game where survival meant more than beauty hosted by me finessa groporiatus this is the untold story of an industry built on ruthless ambition listen to model war

on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What about someone like me who walks around with too much fire? I know. Kay needs more wood. Oh, my God. I mean, like, see what. I chop so much wood.

Oh, I know. You just, yeah, you need to let someone else hand the axe to someone else. Can someone chop them? That missing Libra point, yeah. Well, actually, you have in that system that we made, we call it the IAM system, there's three archetypes. We look at basically how many fire, earth, erred water signs you have and how many are called cardinal. We call them the innovators fixed. We call them the authorities and mavens, the mutable sign.

have seven innovator signs and only one authority, which is the disciplined, kind of the, that's Taurus, Leo, Scorpion, Aquarius. So, and then you only have one air sign out of, out of all the, you use 13 parts of your chart. So you're, you're heaviest on water. So you have one air sign and one authority. So I think you, I think like when someone is low on air, they're actually not always proactively spreading their ideas around like you have a lot there's probably a lot more to you that people just don't know about which is you wouldn't think because you are so well known but there's this part of you and that's like the stories the books the writing all the journaling that you do like that part of you is not as known but could be really inspirational to people

in some ways so does that make sense? I literally in the fires like I don't know if you can see behind me but I I this is nothing there's like a whole thing it's all my journals wow well they're all my journals oh wow I literally the fires were happening and we were evacuating and we had to come back in I was like I was like you know it doesn't matter I got the things that I needed it you know whatever we could fit in the car and then I just had this moment I was like all my journals I forgot all my journals and Danny my partner was like nope and he went back and he came back to the house in the middle of this like insanity and brought all my journals and I'd never seen them all in one place we would look back at all of our journals it's like the same

it's the same thing every my god my new my new year's resolutions for the last 25 years are verbatim the same I'm like nothing's changed there's a problem here I know how many pages of like fuck you what a little bad oh god it's the same thing like just right believe in yourself Oliver, like, you've got the tannin. What's your problem? Don't worry about what other people are doing. Like, let them have their moment. Like, don't be jealous.

I mean, it's literally the same shit. Oh, God. You know what? I'm so glad you use the word jealousy because jealousy is actually the superpower of your Scorpio North Node. What if you leaned in? I mean, Julia Cameron from the artist's way, talks about the envy map where you really use jealousy as a compass.

but what if you really worked with that jealousy part and had some thought, some whimsy with it? Yeah. Yeah. Your whimsical side is really actually that shadowy, bitter asshole within, you know? What if you, like, made a character out of it?

Who would wear leather, of course, and go around? Oh, I like that big. Who is this jealous alter ego? Well, what if I just wrote a book? Well, what card? What card is jealousy? What card is jealous? What's a good terror card for jealousy?

Oh, like the devil, the devil. Yeah. It's a vice. Oh, yeah, I like the devil for all it. Addictions are something to explore. I always said to Oliver, he needs more fox, animal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't mean like addictions to substances.

We're not going to touch that, but like emotional addiction. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think I'm like a lowercase a addicted. Yeah, yeah. But that's because you're not letting maybe the jealous part of you just fully just play and like take the stage what would happen uh-oh i'm trying to be a nice job you know yeah i'm so scared parts of you want to like oh boy

here we go i'm thinking about you're so right i mean i don't like to ruffle feathers i don't want to make people feel bad i don't want to do this i don't do that like that's what i i when kate you do when it comes out as sarcasm and snarting it does so i can hurt people yeah because i'm funny and i can get away with a ton because of the way I sort of present myself and my humor. But, you know, that's what I said about Kate forever. You know, one of the things that I wish I could sort of take from her, you know, that emulate, because we have this thing, is her sort of fire where she just says what she feels. She just really give a fuck what people think. Thinking about your chart, Oliver, is like sarcasm is an addiction for you in a way because it's like sometimes there's a funny

part of you that wants to like make people laugh too and like you're very sharp and witty but then sometimes you also use it as a weapon so just start to be aware of when you're weaponizing it versus because the Torah South node is actually very judgmental and you've lifetimes being very black and white about things and you're learning shades of gray and nuance in this lifetime 50 in fact 50 oh no it's true I do I mean I work on it I work on it I work on it because I'm like, all right, just relax, you know, everything's okay. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Because humor can elevate a room and bring people together, but it can also be like a little, a little, like, you know, maybe you don't have to do that anymore all that way, right? Yeah. I'm saying. Oh, geez. Hate's card is like the Empress or something. Yeah, like the Nine of Pentacles.

Like, the Woman in the Garden, like just like. That's one of my favorite cards. Mm-hmm. I really like her. Yeah. Because she works so hard, but she still enjoys her garden. Yeah. Exactly.

You know what I feel like your journals may be the makings of a book. And it could be like a photo, scrapbook, graphic novel, kind of like, not a traditional book, but like. That's like what McConaughey did with like green lights. Mine's going to be like way too many lights. Way too much light. Yellow. Yellow light. Yellow light is out, so many. A little spectrum, yes. But, no, you know, what was really interesting is when I started looking into my journals and my 20s, like my, the first, like from 20 to about 26, there was some really good, like, song. I was like, oh, man, like, what a bummer that I...

You can still do it. I know, but it would have been fun to know what that would have been like then, you know? But, you know, it's interesting to look back on it, but it's cool to see that that's kind of where my head was at. And that I didn't believe in that girl enough to do that, to express myself. That's the theme of the song. that you didn't believe in that girl, but now you're you. You know, that's, you write it and I'll sing it. I love it, you know.

There's a Pice's moon right there. I'm seeing the, I'm seeing the show. There it is. You don't believe in that girl. You sing about yourself in the past and you bring it up into the present. Boom. You go from third person to second person to first person. Bang.

Ooh, yes. This is going to be the only episode of sibling revelry that I will listen to because I want to take it all back in again. You know, I don't listen to those, but this is one I'm for sure going to listen back. Oh, cool. It's like listening to a reading. It's so great.

I also love, it's also just fun to be like, okay, what are my actions? Like, you know, like when things get, when it's, it's just inspiring. It's like, okay, so, you know, you become inspired to maybe look at something, not in a different way, but in like a more focus. way, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, what's interesting about this as opposed to sort of a psychic reading is when you go through the chart and then you as someone who's being read are realizing that you are hitting upon things that are so spot on, you become a believer and it's not about being psychic, it's about, oh, well, God, they're so spot on that now these are the things that I can sort of work on. I believe because it's like, holy shit, that's so correct. And now you can sort of

try to help yourself. It's really about embracing that's what we love to do. It's like if we've done a reading right when someone comes out, like feeling more self-accepting validated. Yeah, like it's okay to have all these different parts of me.

Like, it's spot on, but it's not bad that I'm like that. just how I'm wired according to my cosmic blueprint. Human beings come with instructions in our, you know, rough guide instructions. So why not use it?

Like, why we already suffer enough? So this is kind of like, I like the way you said it. And that was exactly, you experienced it. Now you understand. Yes, yes. Now, who wants to be a millionaire? I want to be a millionaire.

Thank you. So this is so fun. Thank you. I know. I know Oliver and I are going to go write a book and series. Record a song. Great drag queen. Send us 10% of that Jupiter,

you're on this investment that's paying off in July. I'm going to get all this investment stuff. Exactly. Then, Mosell, yeah. Oh, awesome. And, you know, hit us offline. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I know, for sure.

Get our emails. We got to, yeah. Yeah, it will be your personal astrologer. astrologers. Amazing. Yeah, that would be amazing. I'd be like you guys. What do I do about this?

I don't know. Let me pull a card. Yeah. Yep. Anytime. Here's what's great too and then we'll go. But what I love is like throughout sort of your readings and your wisdom, like you're actually giving advice too or, you know, just ideas on how to do things.

We're like, you do this or lean into this or maybe do this or I have an idea here for you. which is different you're giving opinions on how you might better yourself we have capricorn rising and scorpio moon sagittarius so we're we can't help it we're like here's an idea great i love that it's proactive rather than saying here it is good luck it's like not here it's but i've got some ideas you know which is great appreciate that i'm glad that's what you experienced yeah this is so fun so much fun all right guys thank you so thank you so so much thank you okay keep in touch

we'll talk yeah so sure bye bye bye allie you know I had my

you know I don't know if you still have that book that I did for you from Jill spirit daughter oh yeah yeah I have it

so it's very like it's so interesting because you know this is now the third astrologer that I know of who's read you who I've also spoken to

who says the same thing your life purpose is so interesting because it's weighted. It's very weighted. It's heavy. And your mask is that Ares, you know, the Ares, that you are like, have this set of fire in there, which is great. Because it keeps you afloat. It keeps you, like, out in the world and top dancing. But your, like, your yacht, like, that is great.

That's crazy. I still don't know where my yacht is. It's at the sun, it's at the moon and it, I see. Your yard is a bunch of, basically, it's a bunch of different things in your chart that are pointing towards your moon, which is in Pisces. It means that, it means that there's a lot of intense work that needs to be done. That's, that's, that's where it's like the person who needs to. debt like when they said like you need to work on your ego you need to work on the it in order for prince had a lot of yad that's odd that's all i heard i was like oh fuck

prince's god i was like i'm in like i was like the auntie lady die but they're they're both they both passed away well they're very well they were very intensive like beautiful spiritual people so the the thing is too it's like It can work for you in terms of how you manifest, and it can be, and it's your great teacher because it's so heavy. A yacht is, I guess, like a very heavy life experience. Wow. The whole thing was great. But I loved it, I loved it.

It's like, it's so much fun. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching. The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The Moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us, father and daughter, for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Introducing IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story. A podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally, like, in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IvyF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story,

on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life. This is Wisecrack, available now.

Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the 1980s, modeling wasn't just a dream. dream. It was a battlefield. It's a freaking war zone. These people are animals. The Model Wars podcast peels back the glossy cover and reveals a high-stakes game where survival meant more than beauty. Hosted by me, Vanessa Grigoriatis, this is the untold story of an industry built a ruthless ambition. Listen to Model Wars on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee.

Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life. on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.