Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - The Bella Twins

Episode Date: May 6, 2020

Nikki and Brie Bella, aka the Bella Twins, join Kate and Oliver on this week’s episode of “Sibling Revelry.” They open up about their childhood and multiple sports injuries, their rebellious teen years, how they ended up in the WWE, their new memoir, what it's like to now be pregnant at the same time, and much more.Executive Producers: Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson, and Sim SarnaProduced by Allison BresnickEditor: Josh WindischMusic by Mark HudsonThis show is brought to you by Cloud10 and powered by Simplecast.This episode is sponsored by Function of Beauty.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling reverie. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling revelry. That's good. The bellows. The bellas.

They were fun, so fun, so cute. Gosh, and their bellies are so big and they're so pregnant together and it's the cutest thing. Can you imagine being twins and then having babies a week apart? I know. And this was not by choice, by the way. You got to listen to understand what happened. There's a story behind it. But they were super cute and I love that you could completely tell them apart.

Their personalities are so. different to me you know they're awesome you have like sort of the bad the bad girl and then the good girl we kind of say everybody's awesome I was just realizing we just love people because everybody's so different everybody has their own unique thing of course but imagine if we were like that per these people weren't that great you're like they kind of sucked but we did them anyway but seriously the girls were so fun I loved their dynamic we talked about their childhood, how they got into sports, soccer, how they transitioned into WWE and their whole journey there.

How about the injury? The injuries are just on another level. Yeah, it's crazy. I just love an athlete. I love when people push their bodies to do the most that they can do. And it is always very scary and interesting when people push it so much and they go back. You know, the idea that like you could have. these sort of life-altering injuries and then your purpose and your drive is to actually

like get back in the ring yep she didn't have these injuries and was like oh well that's the end of it i mean she was like all right so when can i get back in the ring you would have been like oh like you would have like broke a finger oh yeah yeah yeah i'd be like yeah that's it's done that's it yeah my contract says i still get paid right Oh my God, so funny. Anyway, love these girls. They have a new memoir out too, called Incomparable. They do.

They have a new memoir and honestly a really interesting life. And I love seeing women in a predominantly men's world and how they've been able to succeed and what some of their obstacles have been. But their gratitude is so enormous. and they've got a great... They do. They're tough as shit. And the shit that they had to take on their way up to, you know what I mean?

Because it wasn't necessarily easy for them to sort of break these barriers. And they actually, they're inducted into the WWA Hall of Fame. They were so wonderful and we enjoyed this. And I know you guys are going to love this one. Here are the Bella Twins. Bella, bala, bala, bala. You're so overrunning this one with all these ladies today. I know.

I know. Hi, girls. How are you? Good. How are you? Good. I'm glad we got to do this. So how far along are both of you? 25 weeks. And then she's... I'm going to be 24 on Thursday. We're literally a week and a half apart.

This is so the cutest thing ever. No. We actually both had accidents. Like both of these were unplanned. I literally was told a month before I found out I was told by my doctors I did all this testing and they're like so you have PCOS you have no estrogen your body you only have testosterone which made a lot of sense yeah it did and they're like you will have to have help the day you want to have get pregnant I'm like what so then I was like score like I'm not going to use

protection just two nights I didn't use protection and a month later I found out I was pregnant and went to my daughter, I go, like, how is this possible? Like, this can't be real because I literally just got engaged. But literally the day before I found out I was pregnant, I felt bad because I went to him. I was like, I think this is too fast. Maybe we shouldn't be engaged. And then the next day I found out I was pregnant. I go, well, maybe we should be engaged. But like, let's just wait. So she literally had like the night before. So I had just told her I was pregnant. Which I was shocked. Yeah, I was shocked. And she literally was like, I just want to break

off the engagement. Like, she went off on this big thing to me, and we had this really deep sister conversation. I am not kidding you, the next day, she walks in my house with a big smile and a positive pregnancy test, and she's like, I'm pregnant. And I was like, wait, 10 hours ago,

you and I were having this deep discussion about the engagement, and then she, so I had a really hard time with not only me being pregnant, but with her being pregnant. It was just like a weird Thanksgiving. Really? She was so mad at me. She didn't talk to me for a week. Why?

Because she was so embarrassed that everyone was going to know we were pregnant at the same time. Like twins being pregnant? I get it. I get why you might feel that way. You know, it's like, what the fuck? Like this is so stereotypical, but it was a mistake. And now you fucked my whole shit up. Yeah.

Exactly. Let's go back. I want to hear about your upbringing, your childhood. You grew up in Arizona. Daddy's, mommy's, give us the lowdown. Where were you conceived? Yeah. So we were conceived.

San Diego. Yeah. Our parents, my mom got pregnant at 18. Her and my dad were freshman in college. And, well, my dad wasn't in college. They were high school sweethearts. So my mom has an 18, but the best is because she was a teen pregnancy, they didn't do ultrasounds or anything.

So she just assumed she was having a big baby boy. And then pops out Nicole, this five-pound baby. And she's like, okay. And then it was 16 minutes later that they. realized I was still in the inside and they're like oh my gosh you have another baby and my mom literally told him no no I'm not going to push I already pushed and then here I came I know she tells me the story and I'm always like that says so much about her first mom I mean oh yeah I was like of course you did yeah that's like exactly right what she would say yeah I'm done pushing now and then

our childhood was kind of like it was rough like there was some really good parts there was some really bad parts our dad was a struggling drug addict but my parents were kind of just kids trying to raise kids so they were just figuring out their life while we were in the picture and then my brother came along two and a half years later we all loved each other but it was just like the household was yeah well we played soccer we felt like that was like kind of a getaway we did competitive soccer it was our life and then brie quit before college which the plan was pay for your college she's like screw it I'd rather be a hooters girl but what big dreams what was what was I mean what was the what were the difficulties of growing up was it your relationship between your parents how

was there was their relationship like fraught but so my parents had an awful relationship and it was actually habits that we really had to go to therapy for to like kick out of our system in our 20s because we started to realize like still no no still in therapy trying to kick it out yeah me too you definitely with relationships. Okay, well, you should be back in therapy. So, but, you know, like, my dad wasn't faithful. My parents split a little bit, would split, come back together. They were always fighting, which then made us kids, like, think, like, okay, to communicate, it's all about yelling and screaming and fighting. And it really took my husband to be like, listen, you might argue that way, but I don't. Like, I can't get to that level. And so I really had to teach my

myself in the beginning with him to just argue differently and just to be able to be calmly like talk about stuff but that's always what we saw in our household and when my parents divorced when we were 15 it was like we were really relieved because the house became happier but it also we got wild we got wild yeah you i mean i feel like even like our our father was so strict and it is crazy and i think so many divorced kids go through this like when the parents split you just kind of you're like have this instant freedom because everyone now when you're older you see oh they were just trying to get through things in their own battles um but we got so wild yeah but we're 15 thank god it was only two years of high school wildness and during this time

though were you both really close like were you wild together oh my gosh for sure we you know it's funny because even though we're identical twins my mom starting third grade made us being different classes because we've caused so much trouble when you're in the same class. And so we kind of ended up getting our own friends, but we were always still like best friends. And we had our own personalities. But during that time, like, we really leaned on each other. And we just, I was probably a little more wild.

Yeah, I was going to say for sure. Yeah. I was a little more of a rebel wild. Bree would try to calm me down. She was more sexually advanced at the age of 15. I was a little bit of a prude. still i was like i don't know i was like this new life let's experience everything did you guys try to rein each other in at all or was it like let's just go free-for-all and then figure it out

so we went free-for-all for a little bit and then i started to date um this really great guy and he kind of just turned me around and was just like pretty much like what are you doing like a light he was he was a light in my life and he just was like just because your dad is at my doesn't mean like you have to act like this and just kind of like your dad's going through his thing that's his life like figure out your journey and he at a young age i was kind of like oh gosh okay i guess that's true so he really turned me around and and unfortunately i actually lost him my senior year at high school he was killed by a drunk driver but he always his presence and like how he made me very spiritual and i just um it was crazy how like he changed me from my like my parents

divorce, even though I ended up losing him, which then made me go a little crazy. But I still kept his spirit with me to, like, just remember to stay. It's my journey. Everyone else has their own. Right. So he was, he was in your life for a very important reason, even though it was really short-lived, yeah. Like an angel. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. And were you guys always together? I mean, were you guys always sort of in each other's faces and, or was there times when you were like, just leave me the fuck alone let me do my own thing oh us too for sure i hated her high school boyfriend hated she like started to date this one guy he was bad news she finally realized it years later i mean yeah but that period of time we were always like kind of at each other because

it was killing me to see her like be just so under this guy's spell and i was just like oh like for real like wake up and so we just her and i would really go at it we would it was yeah we that was that just junior year or it was just a good like two years where there was like a lot of fighting and everyone hated everyone and it was just i mean i hated him too but couldn't get away from it you have a brother yeah we do he's two and a half years younger there's so there's three of you all together yes and then we have we have three other half siblings from my dad. One's a year older than us.

And then we have two younger. We're not really close with our, yeah, older one, but the younger two, we kind of just reconnected with. But my brother's like from both, we're all the same mother. Yeah, we grew up together. Where did your brother fit into all this? You know what I mean? So my brother had the hardest time out of all of us.

I think Nicole and I, and I don't know if we had each other. We had each other and being female when my parents. split we were relieved because we were like they've hated each other since we could remember we like pushed it towards the end yeah we're like you guys got to split I literally went to the principal in our high school and was like um you might want to get a police involved because my mom needs to choose me or my dad like I mean when I look back and I'm like I can't believe I did that but that's just I couldn't take it anymore and so literally the school called her and was like so you have to choose your daughter or your husband because your daughter won't go home yeah it was

crazy yeah so my brother took up the hardest and he we kind of saw a huge change in like his personality and just how he was so and i think too because there was stuff going on like that he knew about that he didn't want to tell my mom that he saw so he was holding in like a lot of guilt and pain anger anger and so um my brother like really just like was not good with it and we tried with him but Well, but then we left two years later. Yeah, then her and I, yeah, left the house. So he was on his own. So he was on his own with it.

Where is he? What's he doing now? So he's here in Arizona too. And he has two little girls and one of them's eight months older than my little girl. And they're super close and it's cute. But he's wild. We call him vacation, JJ, because it's like he's on vacation every day. And he loves it.

He thinks is the greatest nickname. So you guys were both super athletic when you were young. yeah and you were soccer players yeah we played yeah and what were your positions i was center mid never got the credit i deserved she me too me too okay so she you're there for offense we are there for defense but everything defense gets everything so i was sweeper good runners yeah yeah yeah and i won all the awards and that's what she would always say okay i won awards too but i got the bigger ones because you were you were sweeper and defense gets everything Hey, I stopped a lot of goals to where I even sacrificed my tibia.

Oh, that's why you broke your leg, right? Yeah. Like, right in half. A week before I was signing a full ride scholarship. Give me an, and I want to understand what happened. You know, it makes me, we both are very competitive, but I was a whole new level. When I look back, like, I was cocky, I would get, I would yell. Still are.

No, I'm not. I am not cocky. And I was very aggressive. Very aggressive. Yeah. So, I mean, it was for a stupid game for fourth place or third place, right? Yeah, and the girl got a break away and she went to shoot the bow. Yeah, I slid, slid, slide tackled.

How would you say that? Slide tackled. Slide tackled. We don't have good grammar. As she was taking the shot, no. And we just hit shin to shin. My shin snapped enough. It made the loudest noise.

where everyone on the field was like oh and like my whole right side just like shut down yeah the positive is the firemen who came were super hot super hot the ref hated me so she was like you can walk off the field and i was like you're crazy but my dad actually was there and he ran onto the field and picked you up so that was the one nice thing you did at that time he um ran on the field and picked me up and then i like started to feel a little better when all the like five hot fire fires are working on me and it's like oh wow I was like oh my gosh

then my parents didn't have good insurance why do I feel like we're very similar in our high school year yeah I love it I was like this is great but then what sucked is they wanted to take me in their car

well their ambulance and or another fire trip well I don't know where no it was an ambulance but then my dad's like oh wait we have shitty insurance so then I had to go my dad's truck and then be driven in the hospital and I was like well damn this sucks but that's okay saved them money I had I'll just

share my little my little breakaway story so I was super fast and we had we were kind of like the underdog so they would always move me to a defensive position if we had a really fast striker and there was this girl her name Skyler little she actually went pro but anyway Skyler had a breakaway she had about a foot and a half on me like one step and a half on me and I was that was just no way it was a playoff game I was like I will die if I let her get this breakaway and I did the same thing I slid tackled why did that sound so right I think it's I think it's slide tackled not slid I keep like saying in my head I'm like I don't know what's happening but but I got but I got the ball no no no no broken tibias oh I

got the ball. She got so mad. I was on the floor that she the ball kind of went back and hit somebody and came back to her feet and she got so mad and I was lying on the floor that she took with her entire might and kicked the ball into my stomach

and knocked the wind. I've never had the wind knocked out of me like this and that got red carded and that red card. I was gone with Skyler we ended up winning the game. It was great. That is a good breakaway story. Dang, a lot better than mine, the outcome. Well, you had, you had scholarships, right?

I mean. Yeah, I was so, then the league was up for the women, and I was going to play for the Arizona heat wave professionally, and then also play at Arizona State University. And it just all, everything went away, everything. And honestly, I was, like, really down because I lost everything. They're like, my leg was so broken, and they didn't know how it would come back. And then they kind of messed up on the store.

surgery like my screws were sticking out of my ankle i was like is that normal it's about to go through my skin and they had to redo it and it's still never been the same like i've broken it twice wrestling because i was didn't realize supposed to get the rot out like over a decade ago and i still have it in so i'm bouncing around the ring and i would be like i think a metal bar is about to go through my knee um and it would just did it happen actually in a match well it was crazy because a white um years ago was seven years ago when divas came out total divas yeah and i i kept feeling so much pain in my right leg but i don't want to tell anyone and so because i was finally like getting a wrestling storyline and you know how all that goes it's just like you don't want to give up your spot

and one day i looked down and i'm like oh my gosh my shin sunk and so i go i had to go get an MRI and the doctor's like um your shin is like pretty much snapped in half again it was the rod that was keeping everything in place. He's like, how have you been walking? I'm like, well, I've just been, I've been so much pain. Then I had to get put into a wheelchair for a bit, and they still made me travel to TV every week. So I was like, had to go to the airports early

and sit and wait for someone to push me to the gate. And like, it was so frustrating. But it happened twice, like, where in matches. Nothing worse than my broken neck. But I've broken a lot of bones. You broke your neck? Yeah. How'd you break your neck?

neck yeah so um i had this finisher called the rack attack so i put like a girl on my shoulders and like she'd be facing up and then i jumped to my knees and um it's like as if their back breaks in half okay well it was literally starting to break my neck over time and like stuff in the ring would be happening where like if someone would kind of jump on me a certain way like my legs would give out or i would start to wake up in the night and told brie like i can't like lay on my body or I couldn't feel my legs. And so I would like tell people, like our doctors like, hey, I think something's wrong with me.

They're like, you're run down. I'm like, I've been an athlete my whole life. This doesn't feel like I'm run down. Like my legs sometimes go numb. Sometimes I can't walk. Sometimes I fall because my legs go numb. All this different weird stuff was happening. Well, eventually I get an MRI and my neck.

I had no spinal, or no, I can't. Spinal fluid. I was supposed to say fusion. No spinal fluid for my C. to my C7, and my C6, C7, pretty much my disc was going through my spinal cord. Oh. Like, I was, the doctors, like, if I was to slap your back right now, he goes, you'd be decapitated or paralyzed waist down.

Like, he couldn't believe what I kept wrestling with. And so I had to get surgery. And I found this doctor in Florida who was like, I really wanted just a bone fusion where another doctor wanted to give me like a fake neck and this doctor was like I think I could create this instrument go in fix everything and then give you a bone fusion but he goes I have to you know if it doesn't work you have to get a fake neck and jeez yeah he ended up creating a miracle I got a bone fusion and I went back into the wrestling rings seven months later and then got injured nine months later and now I'm done but yeah good what the fuck forget it stick with the

Stick with the reality shows. This is fucking just saying. I don't know what's harder. Reality shows are wrestling with a broken neck. I know. Which one? You don't want to wrestle a lot of people when you're filming reality.

Oh my gosh. Your body has been through so much. So much. Yeah, my poor body. I know. It hates me. Me on the other hand, I... Nothing.

She says because she sleeps a lot. By the way. I used to until a kid. You know. But I would sleep all the time. time. And I was like, Nicole, like, try to sleep 10 hours like me, pre-kid, and your body will heal itself. Why, Nikki, you don't sleep. You're just up? She's a horrible sleeper. But not by choice. I was given this. It's not fair. So what do you mean? Like, you just can't go to sleep at night?

I mean, or are you just a night owl or what? Like, I just, my mind, I feel like keeps me up all the time, but I could sleep a good solid three hours and I've always been like this. And then I'm up. And then I will go back to sleep and I'm up. But it's rare. since I've had drunk and passed out days in college that I would sleep like eight hours straight. It's so interesting, though, just the genetics of it all. You know, you guys are identical,

but there are so many differences. We're so different. We actually, we'll see other twins, and we'll be like, we'll even, like, be taken back and be like, whoa, they're really, like twin-like. Even though we do live next door to each other and we do, like, everything together.

Yeah, but I feel like we don't ever look at each other like twins. Yeah. And we never really have. Like, it's true. Like, we've always looked at each other's friends. We fight like twins. Well, how is it, though?

I mean, you're actually, you know, it's so crazy that it was just a total accident that you girls got pregnant together. But it has to be fun now, right? I mean, it has to be. It definitely is fun. I mean, the one hard thing is because of the times we had to cancel everything. So baby shower, sprinkle. Like, I feel bad for Nicole, because I had a baby shower with my first, but she doesn't get one now. we want to do really fun maternity shoot together

because we are having fun now with our pregnancies. But everything kind of got canned, but we both at least every day, like we have the same cravings and the same symptoms. And oh man, I'm super lucky because I feel like what people their first time around

kind of call the doctor every second when they feel something, like I just go to Bree. And I kind of feel like I'm almost too relaxed. Like I haven't read any books or done any classes because I just ask Bree stuff every day. which I don't know if that's good. Where I'm like, oh, I'm okay, I'm fine.

But then I look at my fiance and I'm like, we're so not okay because he doesn't know anything. And then I don't. And I feel like we're going to come home from the hospital. We're going to look at each other and be like, what do we do now? Like we're just going to call Bree. I mean, you don't even have to call or you can just yell. You'd be like, honestly. Throw something at my window.

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and it's nice because she pushes me in that way and sometimes when i might not want to go the extra mile she gives like she gets me to go that extra mile where my husband wouldn't you'd kick back with me yeah so it's great to have that but at the same time i think what i've done for my sister is i don't believe you have to work seven days a week i believe you do need self-care time you do need days to wake up in the morning and just enjoy your coffee in the morning and not have anywhere else to go so i've slowed her down a bit because i'm like Nicole why have this plate all full and just like you're stressed out all the time. So I believe that works out for each other.

And then when it comes to business stuff, she can get very, like, hot, quick. Like, she, someone pisses her off in a meeting. Like, she'll be quick to want to say something. And then I'm, like, the nice one who comes in to calm the situation to kind of just be like, so what my sister said in her angry words. That's not. You know, I think when you've been in a male-dominated industry for 13 years and, like, your voice would never get heard, it's like,

in business, I just have grown to be like, I come at people like quicker because I had a fight, we had a fight for it. But she's right. It is how we complete each other. It's like we definitely are ying and yang, like for sure. And we, I think that's what's made this work beyond like a marriage or a sister, twins, like as far as a partnership. Like how many times have I told you, don't tweet that. Don't do it. Don't tweet it. Well, that was like in the past. I don't tweet mean anymore but i mean i had tweeted some hate people deserved it then like and i didn't even care i was like i'm so happy you saw that and knew it was about you because i didn't want to text you it because i don't have your number that's something refreshing about that though

you know it's that unfiltered sort of fuck it attitude oh yeah you know but you know you have your sisters sort of pull you to rein you in yeah yeah well and i total time i love that But I go, but we also have a brand and it could now ruin your brand. Well, I mean, I think twice about like the stuff I'm going to say to them. I'm like, okay, maybe delete that and add this word. The thing that sucks about having to let go of the feisty because I'm super fiery and super feisty is that you think that it kind of defines who you are. But it never really gets the result that you want ever.

And we have to manage our reactive emotions because especially, by the way, women in male-dominated industries, because our power, especially as women, is to be quite, to be our own witnesses, to be observant, to be able to communicate, to listen, to nurture, and then to attack. But you attack differently than being reactive because that just scares people away. Right. And it sounds like emotional. that's what like sometimes always say it's like you're first like me and there was a business partner not a couple weeks ago kind of got into it and she came at me in a way that felt emotional but I feel like when women come at someone really quick in your head the first thing you think is like oh that was very emotional instead of professional and maybe if a man came at me that way I'd probably think differently I don't know but that's what I said we don't ever want to come off like emotional right but I feel like the past few years I've started attacking people with smiley faces and like yeah you You know when you give like that backhanded compliment? It's like, oh my God, I just read your bio and you believe in God and Jesus is first. Have a great day.

I love your comment. Smiley face. I would just start throwing that stuff at them so they could think about who they are as a person. And then the next time they write something mean on my page, they should think about Jesus first and God is great. She does do that about, which I do admire. I find it really funny. And we started this thing because in wrestling, we'd get a lot of hate. I should stop that. I am almost 37.

I know. But it is fun. We'd get a lot of hate in wrestling at times. So we started this thing, like, haters are going to hate, Bella's going to ball, because every time a hater would make a comment, we'd just start bawling even more,

and we were like, wow, like, keep hating because it makes us greater. So. People hate that, but it's great. Yeah, so we'd always do that, like, just kind of. What kind of hate, though, would you guys get? People, we had a lot, because where we came out in the industry, so my sister and I came into the industry different than other wrestlers, and people felt we didn't deserve to be there. And it was really interesting because what we realized quickly in wrestling,

if you didn't have the passion for wrestling as a really young kid, it was like, oh, then this was never your dream. It's like, no, I came across it in my early 20s, and I thought it was badass, and I wanted to do it. So why can't I have a dream at the age of 21? But in the wrestling world, it wasn't allowed. And we had to, like, fight so many people on hate of us being accepted. It was like they wouldn't accept the Bellet Twent's.

Well, what it is, it's, and you guys probably know this, when you become more successful, I feel like sometimes that breeds hate in our industry, Bree and I were becoming like the most successful women that WDB ever had. And when the reality shows came, it was like when they got really successful, there was so many people in that industry that didn't think that would happen. So when that started to happen and it also brought more women to the WDB product, people wanted to hate on us for it. And then it was like when we started dating guys.

that were very well known it was like well that's why she's dating that guy and she's with that guy I mean talk about building you up to break you down yeah but would the hate would the haters come would the haters be like hardcore wrestling fans who were like you don't deserve this like that kind of yeah and it means like the online ones because the people like and that's what I'd always tell her that's like 10% of the fan base um but they have the loudest voices they do we call them smart marks in our industry and because of everything we would start to build and then also we were the mean girls like our characters so we were the bad like legit heels bad girls and they would believe everything that was being said in promos and don't get me wrong some of the girls that would get on

the mic because of how they were with brey and i they would say stuff like they just attack us in ways and the fans would believe it and it's crazy still to this day the hate we will get from i mean we got inducted to the Hall of Fame this year for W to B. Yes, I read that. Congratulations. That's dope. I mean, to have Vince McMahon call you and give you all these reasons why he wants to induct you was, I mean, it's real.

But we were trending two days straight because fans were disgusted. They were so mad. Yeah, but that means you did something right. You did something right. Right? Even when the New York Post has to write about it, I'm like, whoa. And Forbes. And Forbes wrote about it. They're like, damn.

And like, we were like, yeah, we thought the same. But, oh, wow, we're getting inducted. Just wait for those comments to come back. I'm going to look at everyone's bios. With the kissy face. But is it mostly females who are hating? No, males. Males.

Really? Yeah. And I always tell Bree, they just know I could kick their ass so they can't handle that. Why are they so upset? Like, what in what world? Like, why? I don't know. It's funny because my husband and I,

I will talk about this all the time because the fans that hate us love him and it's bizarre because they'll be like, Bree Bella, oh, she should never be in wrestling. Daniel Bryan, he's like wrestling God. And I'm like, it's so weird. We're like married. We've been together nine years. But like, like, they probably think you cast it a spell on it. Probably.

But it's like this, I don't know. They just, because we didn't come from what to them, the indie market, this independent market. We came in differently that we. they never thought we were worthy of the WWE. How did you come in? So we came in through a thing called Diva Search. It's almost like Glow. Have you ever seen Glow on Netflix?

Yeah. Oh, yeah. So that's how we came in. They were looking for female wrestlers and I saw it. I auditioned for that, I think. You did? No. That's awesome.

That actually is. All right, keep going. Keep going on your success. So we did Diva Search and I was like, Nicole, come with me. Like, we can like tell, we loved entertainment. Like, growing up, we, even though we were sorry. soccer players. We loved drama. We loved entertainment. Every time, like, there would be big boxing parties at our house. We'd always ask we could lip sync to the spice girls during intermission.

Like, so embarrassing. Um, so when I saw WDB, I'm like, these girls are aggressive. They fight, but they're telling stories. They're like characters. And so we went and we actually didn't make it. They were like, no. But we showed up to fight. Like, we were wearing, like, kicks and like bandanas. Girls were, like, dressed up as go-go dancers. Yeah. So we were, They weren't their look, but we begged to wrestle. And so they flew us out to McDonough, Georgia. And we got in the ring and we were like, this is it. Like, this is what we want.

We fell in love. Fell in love. So we got these, like, penny contracts. Like, it was for no money. We were making more money working at the Sky Bar off Sunset Boulevard than the contract we were offered. Did you work at the Sky Bar? I did. Did you actually work at the Sky Bar?

I worked at Sushia on Sunset and the Sky Bar. Sushi on Sunset. That was the. jam. I used to love that play. Sushi on Sense, it was the spot. Oh, God, that's so crazy.

And I worked there way back in the day. I was 19. You were 19? Oh, I probably saw you. You probably were working. I was probably your guys's waitress. I was there all the time.

Remember your interview for Sushia and I sat in it? And then the guy all sat in, the owner looked at me and goes, are you her manager? And I go, no, I'm her sister. And he goes, do you sit in all of her interviews? Oh, yeah.

And then I thought in my head, why am I sitting in her interview? I, like, wanted to make sure she got the job because you needed a job really that. And I thought, like, I don't know if I stared him down by sitting there, like, you were going to get it. I'll never forget that. I totally forgot about that.

Yeah, I can't believe I actually allowed that. Your mom boss next to you, like. Yeah. That is so funny. That is funny. Okay, so then you went to Tampa and then you just started wrestling. Yeah, we started to learn the craft of wrestling. and then we started to wrestle like around Tampa

so we'd wrestle at boys and girls clubs at high schools at the flea market at churches I mean it's crazy where we've wrestled and we actually dealt with racism which was nuts because we considered like West Coast you don't deal with that and when we were driving through the South and then we went to Tampa

you guys our first time in Alabama because we decided we thought it'd be so fun to drive from California to Florida and make it like a road trip and we stopped in Alabama. We're like, oh, we've heard Alabama school. And we stopped in Mobile, Alabama. And we're like, what's this place called Mobile?

So we, like, walk into a bar and we're, like, so excited. And it's, like, all these bikers everywhere. We're, like, sitting having drinks, can't believe. Like, we're actually in Alabama. Yeah. And they, like, these people walk up and they, like, kick the chairs because we are at a table for four, so there's two. And we're like, whoa, just thinking people are drunk and have fun.

And they're like, hey, your kind is a welcome to you. And we're like, what? are kind and they're like yeah we're like California girls because we just weren't thinking they're like what no you're kind they go you belong in the bar down the way and we're like okay and they made some Mexican yeah they said like made a Mexican comment and I was like oh my gosh well we're dealing with racism it's real yeah and then we ran then we it got pretty aggressive and we had to leave and then we went to the bar down the way and it was a jazz bar and walked in we're like are we are we allowed to be in here

And they're like, yeah, we're like, okay. We weren't allowed on the other side. I don't know if we're allowed on this side. Wow, that's crazy. We were loud in the jazz bar. It was crazy. And we had our first match. Now, granted, it was like 20 people in the crowd.

We were at this one high school. And we came out and we're supposed to be the good guys. So we're like smiling like, yay. And they're like, spick, spick, spick. And we were like still smiling. And I remember going to pre-win. I think they're going to spix. And then every time we do something, they boo.

and we're like the good guys so they love the heels beating us up like they loved when the bad guys beat us up and like anytime we do something great they'd be like specs and we were like wow it was the craziest thing so eye opening yeah because never in our lives growing up I mean we're

Mexican Italian British Irish we're the American mutt but um to that's crazy it was crazy it opened up our eyes definitely that's fucking crazy And then just wrestling, and I remember my mom came out and my boyfriend at the time and watching us wrestle in flea markets and these little bars. And my mom's like, I mean, you guys kick ass in there, but are you sure this is what you want in life? And we're like, no, we do.

We know we're going to do something great with it. Yeah. But I don't understand the haters then because it seems like you girls paid your dues. You know what I mean? Like you were on the road. You were, you were wrestling for 20 people and you were, you know. running the small market circuit like why is that not paying your dues i i feel like when you're at the forefront of like a revolution you're just it's like no matter what you do you're just

the blame for change and i feel like because we're at the forefront for women wanting more and you know just women breaking all these barriers brie and i got we like i don't want to say the blame of it but it was it was like how can women be doing this it has to be because of those two girls and who who they're dating and who they're this and if these girls we like don't like them then we can't like them and it was crazy because it's like everyone had to find an excuse of why women were actually changing the game and brey and i were at that front part and so it's like they can't let it go of like why this change for women has happened right and i think because we wrestled in front of those type of crowds for over a year where they look at someone like

my husband who did that for 10 years until he made it to WWE. Okay. There's always so much comparison and I always think to myself like and this takes me back to high school like everyone's journey is different. Like why do we in WWE sometimes I don't understand why we always have to be compared to how our journey was coming here. Like we all had some type of journey to come here. You know and so it it kills me like my sister and I since the soccer field we've been a tag team like anytime a girl would push me, Nicole would run up and take a girl out and get a red card and be out of the game. But like, we've always been a tag team. It's like it's actually been, the time we started wrestling, it was a 20 year, 23 year process of being a tag team. But it is hard

that fans don't, and it's not all fans, but that the loud ones don't see it that way. I mean, and other fans get frustrated because they'll be like, it's not cool to hate the Bell Tunes anymore. I think it was cool for a little bit when we were on TV and it was part of the story. The gimmick's done. but who is in charge of that gimmick so you can like present ideas to vince um or sometimes they'll come to you with ideas but like at wb we do our own costumes unless they have like a specific idea for you but um like you kind of come up with your own character and if it gets over with the crowd vince is like okay like this is working i like it and so i we've learned so much about

connection especially with live crowds because if the crowd isn't cheering you or booing you like you're just you're done you won't get booked and so your goal is to become whoever you think you could connect with so do people have to try out characters meaning like oh shit okay we're gonna try this this doesn't work then i'll try this that didn't work until you've hit one yes and that's why like developmental was important because you try out so many just to see like what the crowd filled to see if it works for you to see if the higher ups like it but it is funny how many like gimmicks you'll kind of go through to see what yeah but I feel like if you go through

too many you get fired that is they're kind of like yeah you're just not working out did you guys have a couple or were you just one and done we did and you know what we found worked for us was not being twins because of the reality show it was Vince really saw that we are two different people connected to us the beginning though because it was something different yeah we were the first identical twin girls to ever debut in WWE. But it was like weird the minute that Nikki started to be like her, like this sassy jock and then I was like this grungy like girl next to her.

We just kind of took our personas and we're like, well, let's try it. And people didn't, we didn't know if it was going to work because we're like people might want us to look identical. It was like crazy just how it took us to the next level. And so we were always just so twin, twin and, you know, Latina twins or Spanish. 40 twins, but it was like the minute we were ourselves, it, like, worked. Did you try other iterations before that, though, where it was like, oh, shit, that didn't work. Okay, that kind of worked.

Or was it boom right then and there? I feel like because we're identical twins and kind of our debut story, we always would have one twin wrestle, and then at some point the one twin would go underneath the ring, and the other twin would come out and always beat then the opponent. And people really got hooked that because then there wasn't social media when we started, which is so crazy to hear it. So no one knew there was twins. So the day when the girl got so sick of it and put a hand under the ring, it wasn't going to let the one twin go and like yanked out two girls. The crowd went crazy.

Like, wait, there was two this whole time. So I feel like people connected to us Erlon because we were twins. It was just them finding our way after that, like our look. because it's weird what WDB fans then kind of connected with Bree and I were so not the girls that they really love just the beautiful blondes that were voluptuous

and we were so opposite so we're trying to how to figure our way out from there but the twin thing we were lucky always people I feel like did connect with yeah do you find that now that you're because you're both no longer wrestling right I mean it's just

Okay. And you don't think you're going to go back. No. I mean, I would love to, but my last fight was against Ronda Rousey. And it was cool because we main-evended the first ever all-women's pay-per-view. And it was an awesome story. Like, we got super intense. But I was going to go back for the tag titles with her. And I wasn't feeling good for a few months, like my head.

And I was like, don't even tell me something's wrong again with my neck. and I went in to get an MRI and I herniated the disc above where I had surgery so my doctor was like that's it you're done I kept telling you not to go back and I was like wait let's fix it

and he's like you have a double spine fusion that's it like no more working out so for me he retired me which I was really upset about it was like April right yeah actually a year last week I got officially

retired you could still wrestle I could but I'm retired but sometimes I tell her WWE does have these women tag titles and it's the one thing we haven't gotten and I was like

here we were like the longest tag team that they had for the women and we're like how do we not ever get the women tag titles? I got it, I got it, I got it, I got it, I got it. Okay, so you roll in in a wheelchair like it's not happening. You have another

partner. The partner goes down. It's over. But you tag your sister in for one last hurrah to fucking win it that's it yeah that's good actually and if we're heels not a wheelchair but like you know you're out of commission that's it like it's been known you're done you have a new partner which is driving you crazy because you're like fuck that there's a there's a thing between the sisters like i kind of don't like you right now but i'm here to support you i got to finish off sort of what we haven't you know we haven't finished you know and and then boom your partner goes down.

You tag in the sister. This is good. This is good. This is good. But I feel like we need some pre sort of match footage of the kids in the green room and them kind of being, you know, mothering. Yes. Yeah. For, oh, dude, mommy tag team.

They win their titles. It would be even cooler actually if we were like breastfeed and then like hand them over. Exactly. Especially to like my ballroom fiancee, like dancer. like oh here you go mommy has to go fight and kick some ass but then you're actually you're actually breastfeeding each other's babies actually brieges has her feet up and i'm breastfeeding them both at the same time yeah as i'm like getting ready to the match and then i pass them over and get into the wheelchair and i'm like let's go let's roll i feel like i feel like we're on to something

has you have you always felt supported by the w w i mean i know like is this a real big family and is it a lovely you know do they take care of everybody so i i mean we definitely have like the one thing that nicoe and i've always felt with wwee is when you're grateful for what they've done for you and you kind of really look at it like you know what i wouldn't be where i'm at if it wasn't for them you're part of like what feels like a good family it's unfortunate because a lot of wrestlers do leave and they kind of just they bash like wwe and they'll bash vince and like all of it but at the same time I'm like every boss is tough like you don't I haven't ever met a boss that was easy but at the end of the day he gave me an opportunity that if you told me as a kid I would see the world

I'd be able to own like a home and like be able to vacation when I want and like do all these cool things I would have never believed you but I'm like Vince gave me that opportunity like he believed in in me when I was just like a nobody coming off the sky bar with a couple thousand dollars to my name With your kicks and your sis and your car driving cross-country. Yeah. I mean. Stopping for $2, you call it, mobile Alabama. We're excited.

We loved our $2, you call it. Do you feel that you've been paid rightfully so compared to some of your male counterparts and peers in WWE? I mean, you know, when we were active, I definitely felt, I remember at times like I would know some of the guys that were making more than us. but I knew we were bringing in more, and that was, like, really difficult. And there was some of the women that were starting to become outspoken about it. And it was hard because I really wanted to be.

And then in the back of my mind, I kept hearing, like, don't bite the hand that feeds you. But at the other hand, I was like, I'm working so hard, literally breaking my neck for this business. And I'm more over than this guy, and he's getting paid more just because he's a male. And it was hard. and it was like there was so much more I wanted to do and then I broke my neck and it was like right when I felt like I finally was able to get that voice about pay but I definitely remember that period of time that it was super frustrating but we were we were raised that you have to be so grateful for everything and so that would always be my inner struggle is like when you come like we didn't have much growing up and so then all of a sudden I felt like okay but if I bitch about it like I have so much more than when I I I grew up up with like am i going to lose it all and it was such a struggle because i tell brie at times i wish i fought even harder for those kind of things um instead of for the women having more tv time and being treated like we are so focused on being treated with respect but more like the me too

and times up feel than the pay because we were just like we're not just the icing on the cake anymore like we're the main entrees here and so there it's been like a battle and now they're finally like there like when I hear with the women it's like just started this past year where a lot of the women are making more than the men which rightfully so because the women right now are doing more yeah honestly it's I think it's a learning process for everybody which I women women have always had a hard time asking for what they deserve yeah right totally I agree Then you have, then all of a sudden you have these couple women who come out in front of it and you're like, oh shit, like I got a lot of stories about this. But then you don't really want to, like you said, bite the hand that feeds you, nor do you want to, sometimes, you know, this, my thing is, nor do you want, you know, that it's that thing that you hear or that you've kind of been programmed to feel like that girl.

I don't want to be that girl, you know, who's like hard to work with or asking for too much. I want to be liked and I want to be asked to come back and I don't want to, you know, I want to be grateful. And then next thing you know, you're like, what the fuck? How much did he get paid compared to it? And you could look at numbers and statistics and everything and just be like, it doesn't add up. It just doesn't add up. Totally.

And I think, too, like why a lot of us didn't speak up is we were lucky enough where the numbers weren't a huge difference. like from because there were some of the top guys that were making a lot and I even understood that I'm like okay they are the headliners and in our industry they were still bringing in more people than us um it was more the midcard guys but I guess it wasn't like such a big difference I felt like the one thing that they lacked especially when we were in our prime with divas they didn't capitalize on the women they were so focused on the men that they lost a whole audience that they could still have today because they just didn't believe in our mission or what

we were doing and the changes we were making, I felt like we could have made an even bigger tidal wave. If the company was behind us even more, they were behind us. But if they, they could have capitalized in so many different ways. And I think politics always come into play. I think in every industry, you have your favorites, you have who they want to push, who they don't. But at times I'm like, oh, what they really could have done with this big group of women would have been so amazing worldwide. We did a lot, but oh my gosh, we would always talk about that. I'm like, they could have capitalized and used us even more. And they didn't. They missed out on a lot. Did you end up fighting Rhonda? I did. Nicole did. And I was like out there with her

because we were the bad guys. Yeah. How was that? That, it was, tough like her strength is crazy i just remember even when we went and did a practice and she like threw me and i've been slammed for 13 years um her slam compared to anyone else's i was like oh shit this is a tough bitch um yeah she's so crazy strong and so like i just remember i had to prep differently for that match, just even mentally, um, just because I knew having like a 20 minute fight or however long we went, how that would feel. Um, but yeah, it was, it was unlike any experience, like any experience I've had in the W to B. Like, it was so different. I remember that. Well, it was funny because we'd start to do these Instagrams to each other. And I was like,

like, did she, she just bashed me. And I would do. went back and I'm like, she was like really getting under your skin. Yeah, like it wasn't like we talked about it. Oh, I would call Nicole and I was like, you serious? And so like mainstream was really picking it up because it was like, because she got all UFC on you. Yeah. So I want to know what your focus is in business now and what you're looking forward to and talk a little bit about your memoir that's coming up. Yeah. So the big focus that we've been having with our companies right now, because we have Bertie B, which is our lifestyle line. We have hair and skin, yes, hair and skin care line, Nicole and Breezy.

And then we have a wine, Bonita, Bonita and Belvedici. And the biggest thing that we both have been pushing is to make more eco-friendly, more green. So we've worked on, yes, that with Bertie B and we're now there. So now our biggest one is we've been since been in quarantine working on Nicole and breezy. And it was a huge passion of mine. And the one thing I told Nicole with business and just slowing down at this time is like I kind of lost my values in business. And I'm like, I need to bring my values back. I think that happens. Sometimes you have so many people on your team and your opinion, like not everyone agrees with. So you kind of just get quiet and let everyone

just kind of go. But I was like, you know what? I should have been the one with the louder voice, not the quieter voice. And I've learned that just in the last couple weeks. Like I need my voice to be louder when it comes to dealing with our teams. And we both kind of just, I guess, together. Like we know our brand works good together. Like being the Bella Twins. Works well. Yeah, works well.

There you know. That's why I need her. It's unique. And we do always like, we'll talk like, gosh, should we do things different, like apart? Because I am someone who lives a different life than her. And I do feel like I have an audience that would relate more to me if I, gave him a product that I believed in and she's different. But then at the end of the day,

we always just feel like we're more powerful as a team. Yeah, we are. And it's funny because Bree and I have been going through our goals as we've been in quarantine. And we're just massive winos. And we realize, like, we love wine. And we want to get to Napa Valley in a few years. And we're like, how do we do it?

We, you know, we're going to be 37 in November. we don't want to wake up to vineyards when we're 60 and only enjoy it for like 20 or so years if we live a long life so we're like let's get there sooner than later and start waking up to vineyards and being even more involved in our wine industry it's like we kind of been breaking down our passions and like where do we put more of our equity and our time and it's something i've learned rock because i'm such a workhorse but i've kind of now and like want to just watch the sunrise and the sunset and, you know, be around people that have like-minded, like-minded? Geez, I don't know.

And also, you grew up on a farm. Yeah. Just, like, come right back around. It does come back around. It's so crazy. I miss the smell of, like, horseshit. Yeah. Like, I never would have thought.

Yeah. You get to break, break the cycle on the places you want to break it, but, like, come back to the things that make you feel good, you know, growing up on land. Ollie and I grew up in Colorado, like, on land. And we want that for our kids. Like, I want that for Birdie, and we want it for these two when they come. Yeah. Okay.

Let's do our speed round. Okay. One word to describe the other. My word for Nikki is fierce. My word for Bree is goofy. Do you call her Nikki or Nicole? Nicole. Nicole.

Okay, Nicole. But most people call you Nikki. Yeah. You could call me either. She, yeah. So what about at 13? Same words or different words? Free spirit.

Bree. Bree's a free spirit. Was. Yeah. At 13, I kind of thought you were a bitch. I would have used bitch. Whatever. At least I stuck up for myself.

Oh, that's great. Who calls the other more? I think it's pretty even. It is pretty even. Maybe me. Nicole calls you a little more. Yeah. Yeah.

And I think it's because I have a kid. Who's more competitive? That's a good one. Oh. Nicole is way more competitive. Clearly. I've gotten that. I could have gotten that in the first 10 minutes of our conversation.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you don't even want to play me in like tic-tac-toe. It gets for real awful. Do you play games? We do. Yeah. We'll do board games.

We haven't though done it in a while. I know. You know what I love is Yotsie and I haven't played yet. Yeah. It's the best. I love Yotsie. Yotsie's so fun. So who's the better singer?

No, I am. Why don't you give us a hit a little note? No, because I'm not good. I'm just better than you. And I think it's just because I sing to my kid all the time, so it makes me better. Do you love to sing? I do.

You know, I like to silly sing. Like, I feel like if I was, if I wanted to be a singer, they'd be like, who would you want to be? I'd want to be, like, on Broadway. Like, be a character singing and having fun, telling a story. I wouldn't want to be like a pop star. Like, I want to do fun singing.

Fun. Better dancer? Oh, me. Nicole, for sure. Yeah, I gave up on TikTok. She kept making me do like TikTok dances. And I'm like, I can't do this. It was one, one day, and you couldn't even get it right.

Well, I mean, I hate TikTok. I won't sign up. I like even posted it because it was the worst ever. I can't do TikTok either. I don't know how to do it. It's too weird. She's, like, obsessed right now. And I'm like, I don't even want to, no, go there.

I have two videos. Who is more dramatic? Nicole. Oh my. Oh, that sounded dramatic. Whatever. You for sure. If you were playing truth or dare, who would take more dares?

Nicole. Yeah. Most disagreed on topic. It actually always, we always fight over how we speak to each other. Like the tones, tones of our voices, it's weird. Like, her and I see eye to eye on everything, but if she interrupts me or interrupt her, it's with a certain tone, it becomes like this big disagreement

that blows into World War II. Three. World War II happens. It would be World War III. And so... That's funny. It's World War II all over again. How about that?

No, but by the way, tone is everything. You know, because words, words are just words, but it's what's behind the words. It's tone. Right. A secret talent your sister has. My sister loves to write, poetry.

Whoa. I do. That's my soft side. Like deep poetry. I know. It gets pretty deep. Wow. Dark or light?

Dark. Is it? Dark. Paper and pens is the only thing I like to be honest with. Do you like to share it? She's shared a couple. I've shared a couple. And then, you know, a lot of people just don't get it.

They, when you, sometimes when you share poetry, they think like you're about to jump off a bridge or. you're always talking about the same guy and I just am like I'm not even going to share this I shared two and I feel like only people who understand poetry get it which is not majority of the world so I mean I shouldn't even admit this but I have a fake Twitter account that when I have thoughts I have never even told you you have a fake Twitter account well I don't follow anyone or anything it's to put writing stuff like it's really like cryptic cool stuff what's a name I'm not going to say how did you not tell me this because it's so much fun there's something really like um where i can just go off on people yeah but my thing is how do you have time for it well i mean girl it takes like a second to write a tweet right i mean it's hard for me to do twitter okay who is the better at cook oh i am for sure brie brie is brie who gives better advice brie oh yeah no yeah no yeah no Both.

Mine always comes from a sincere place. What about something that your sister's really bad at? I'm trying to think what you're really bad at. Oh, nothing. I mean, you're not the best driver. No, you're not the best driver. No, I'm fearless when I drive. Which is exactly.

I'm always terrified. I drive like a grandma. She drives like a bad out of hell. It's like awful. All right. first celebrity crush oh my first celebrity crush was was it axel rose yeah axel rose and i was anthony kittis oh similar yeah yeah the long hair say me the place i love thank me over yeah yeah yeah talk about a good book to read

his autobiography oh yeah yeah yeah yeah what about your first childhood crush real one Oh mine was What's His Face from Brawley Tyler Sanders Ew no He was older The one Like he'd make me go play hide and seek

And he'd be like if I find you I'd give you a kiss Blaze Yeah And I'd hide for like hours And you'd just leave It's like fucker Who was my childhood crush

I don't know You're weird No I mean I had like crushes Like boys I liked in middle school is that a crush what about your first kiss my first kiss was in sixth grade who was it

Nate Guido oh no yeah Nate Guido I watched it it was so nasty you watched it was like watching people not knowing what they're doing yeah because it was like a kiss but then we tried a French kiss too

and it was like gross sick but I mean I was into it I thought it was good I spit after mine and offended the guy and I was like get over it I didn't know what to do like it was so gross It was just so wet, and I was such a tomboy, and then I was like, and then, like, everyone made fun of him for, like, a year. And I was like, how old was you?

Sixth grade at the mall parking lot, Brendan. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's so good. Okay, favorite book? Mine would be the Alchemist by Paulo Kula. Great book. I can't think of titles right now, but I love Deepak.

Deepak Chopra? Yeah. If you could quote one movie from start to finish, what would it be? Dumb and dumber That also says so much about both How different you guys are Yeah, so great So true

Okay, if you could eat one food forever, What would it be? Sushi. Is that, like, do you have to say one food? Oh. Susky is spicy tuna. You know crispy or spicy tuna on top? Yeah, mine would be pizza.

You are obsessed. I love pizza. What would make your, sibling the most tongue-tied. Any teller to say Caterpillar or anything with S's? Well, like tongue... I know, but that's what would literally make you tongue-towed. Are you not good with S's?

I mean, I went to speech class, like when I was dead. We both are pretty bad. Our dad mainly spoke Spanish, but didn't teach us Spanish, but yet we got a lisp, but aren't, like, bilingual. No, he spoke English all the time at home. I just think we dealt with his Lisp, and then I got it. And then I had to like try to undo it. She would always have to say like Sally sells seashells by the seashore. Yeah, there you go.

That one used to always screw me. If you could, two-part question, right? So if you could take one thing from your sibling that you could have as your own, a quality of some sort, what would it be? And the second part is if you could take something away that is ailing them or that could alleviate alleviate, alleviate, alleviate something in them, what would that be? That's such a good question. Wow. I think what I would take from you is, like how you've always, you've always had boundaries and I haven't. So that's what I take from you is your boundaries with people and business and blah, blah, blah. And then what I'd never want from you. No, I think what you would alleviate from me.

Oh, yeah. What you need to get rid of, the juju off you, is you're very quick to judge situations when it deals with me. Oh, okay. So, when I take from, little judgey, huh? Yeah, yep. Oh, yeah. Okay, not really.

But what I take from you, after that would be your okay girls gone wild personality I think it's

without feeling shame yeah right um no her kind of effet personality I would like because I'm someone who hates confrontation and also I can feel guilty quick so the effort

because it'd be nice to like maybe tell people off and then go go live my day as if I didn't even remember it. It feels great. And then one thing I would alleviate offer is sometimes the one thing she gets hammered in the press a lot about her past, especially like with her ex. And I'd like to like take that and just like chuck it. That was really nice of you.

Well, obvious. I'm the nicer twin. Sweet. That was sweet. I wish I could have touched you guys. I know. I know. You guys are awesome.

Oh, well, you girls are the best. best. Thank you guys so much. You guys are too. Thank you. That was so fun. Sibling Revellerie is executive produced by Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson, and Simpsons. Supervising producer is Allison Brescent. Editor is Josh Windish. Music

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