Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - The Family Business with Ryan Trainor

Episode Date: August 19, 2024

Two celebrity brothers bond and tell some tough truths about their famous sisters.Oliver is joined by Meghan Trainor's brother Ryan, who works with his pop star sis.Find out why he decided to drop out of school, how he dropped his addiction, and focused onhelping his sister drop hits instead!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Well, this season, we're leveling up. Each episode will feature a special bestie, and you're not going to want to miss it. My name is Curley. And I'm Maya. Get in here. Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcast.

Hi, I'm Jennifer Lopez, and in the new season of The Over Comfort Podcast, I'm even more honest, more vulnerable, and more real than ever. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? Join me for conversations about healing and growth, all from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen. Listen to the new season of the Overcombered podcast on the IHeart Radio app,

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One Tribe, save my life twice. Welcome to Season 2 of the Good Stuff. Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the Iheart radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, it's your favorite Jersey girl, Gia Jude Ice. Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I share my story. This week, I'm sitting down with Vanderpump Rural Star, Sheena Shea. I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest.

There will be an occasional text, one way or the other, from me to Ariana, maybe a happy birthday from Ariana to me. I think the last time I talked to Tom, it was like, congrats on America's Got Talent. This is a combo you don't want to miss. Listen to Casual Chaos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson.

We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling revelry. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling revelry. That's good.

This is Oliver Hudson. Welcome back to another hour of this sweet, sweet, this sultry voice. I've changed everything about myself. I am no longer the fun, loving, happy, go lucky man who makes jokes self-deprecating, no.

I'm now serious. I'm a conspiracy theorist. I have thoughts that no one wants to hear. When you get into my mind, the first thing you're going to want to do is get the fuck out. That's who I've become. My name is Holliver.

oh hudson now and i have changed my identity no i haven't it's just me um in colorado just got back from cape cod uh while i was with my in-laws normally you hear that and think oh my god rough it's the opposite my in-laws are the greatest We have a really fun guest today, Ryan Trayner, Megan is his sister, if you don't know who she is, and just stop listening. And they were on, both of them, with my sister, when I couldn't do the show. So now Ryan and I are going to sort of chop it up about what it's like to be second fiddle. I think that's why he wants to talk to me again. I think he needs to relate to someone whose sister is more famous than they are.

That is my guess. But let's find out. All right. Let's find out. Bring him on. Open that goddamn door. So how are you, brother? What's going on?

Dude, I'm fantastic. I mean, I'm chilling. I'm in the studio that we have at Megan's house, naturally. Megan Traynor, my sister. That's, you know, and we had done this podcast before. and I was very excited to meet you because I think the secret to life is you want to have you got to have mentors in your life right people you look up to and that you could ask for help and I was hoping by the end at by the end of this podcast I could eventually be like you know

I'm not so we don't have to be buddy buddy buddies but if I could just call you from time to time and say hey how do I do this uh how do I do this brother thing what do I do this man Oh, I like this. I like this. It's been a wild journey. You know, it's been 10 years and a lot has changed in the last three for me. Because at first, you know, she calls me up. She says, hey, drop out of college, move to L.A.

This is what we're going to do. I'm going to be a pop star. You're in the entourage. An entourage is one of my favorite shows. And, you know, we grew up East Coast kids. So I was. How long ago was this? That was 10 years ago.

So Megan was just like, I'm going to be, I'm going to make it. I'm going to be a fucking pop star. So just come along for the ride. There was a specific moment. Okay, so I'm a, I'm a cocktail waitress at Galley Beach in Nantucket. It's me and three girls. And summer, summer of my life, dude, 21 years old. Come on.

I'm walking out. I go, you know, nice table group of women. I got to start the fire here. Oh, Ryan's starting the fire. Here we go. It was the dream. And she calls me up and I'm on the beach. And she's like, hey, you know, Justin Bieber, and this is when Vine was the thing.

There's a Vine going viral. Justin Bieber remixed my song. I'm famous now. I need you to move out to L.A. This is it. And that was like the exact moment. And of course, I just asked the bartenders I worked with, hey, should I drop out of college and move to L.A.? And they said, yeah, no brainer.

You know, I could have probably asked some more people. Yeah. No, that's enough. Just the bartenders, you know. Forget about your parents. Forget about anyone else. It's like, take their word for it. What were you studying in college?

Advertising and PR. I was like my fourth major. I was very bad at college. Oh, dude. I mean, I got expelled from high school and then ended up going to Boulder and went two years and I was done. I knew that, you know, college was not for me and academics was definitely not. my strong suit. Yeah. Same boat. I mean, I got into Boulder, but it was very expensive. And I told my mom,

because my mom loved that school, I go, mom, unfortunately, if you send me here, it'll be a complete waste of money because that was the first state to, like, make marijuana medicinal. I go, I'm just going to burn my way out of that school. Don't send me there. So now, you know, then I just go to Florida instead and just picked up all sorts of different fun habits, more, more high-speed habits. A little of a higher octane. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. Would have been way better off going to Colorado actually. It was just like skied and smoked a little pot. Of course. It was a polar opposite. Yep. So yeah, dropping out of college was pretty easy for me. But when Megan was like dropout, come with me. I mean, were you like, cool?

but to do what? What am I doing with you? Yeah, thankfully, her manager at the time, Troy Carter gave me an opportunity to be an intern at his company. So I at least had something to do initially. Now, unfortunately, so I'm a recovering alcoholic, right? I'm three years sober. Congratulations.

Thank you. To move to L.A., I did not. I had many opportunities thrown my way, And that was one of them, and it was the first one. And I did not really understand how special it was to be inside one of those talent management buildings. And I did not sort of rise to the occasion. I just went out constantly. So I was showing up to work, rolling out like 50%.

And, you know, that ended. And I really was doing nothing. and I would get into fights with my dad. He's like, you got to, you got to do something. You got to do something. And I'm, at the same time, I'm doing nothing. I'm there for my sister as kind of like the positive vibe. And if something crazy is going down, I was there to be like, hey, this is okay.

It's going to be okay. Like this is, this is fucking insane, but we're going to get through this. Because in the beginning there, it's hamster wheel. And she's 20 years old and it's nonstop. she's making everybody money so they go go go go go go go go go and it was a lot um and then her manager welcomed me back as a production assistant um after i begged what did you actually did you get fired no just the internship ended and there wasn't really a job opportunity oh god okay and i was like i understand right yeah yeah i got you right but i wouldn't bring me back either yeah yeah

But I had gone on tour with her for a little bit and did some videography stuff. And so he understood that I kind of enjoyed that. So he threw me into the production team side of things. And that's where I learned everything because these guys went to, you know, film school. They were legit. And I got fast-tracked into learning how to do everything. And then went back on tour with Megan and I became her behind-the-scenes content capture, okay, video photography. yeah and that's what I did you really up until um up until the end of 2019 or 2020 you know and yeah

but it's and then after 2020 after that then what well the world shut down and yeah I wasn't able to hide my alcoholism you know when you're when you're traveling all around the world and you're just you're taking videos you could just you could booze yeah especially when you're traveling with the A team. Yeah. So it's, it's, you know, business flights, unlimited wine. Yeah. All these parties that she doesn't want to go to, open bar, all the shows, I'm at the

bar, but you're kind of shaking and baking. So when everything stopped, I still had the same habits, but it's, it's tough to watch because we're not going anywhere and it's, you know, I would get to the gym and sweat it out but it's yeah i'm just drinking all day getting into that for a second like when did you realize you actually had a problem and how bad was it you know or is this something that was really affecting your life you know in a really negative way or is it more like dude this is just not good for me i can function but i this is not right yeah i mean i knew i had a problem being an addict at a pretty young age

with just weed in the beginning there and my dad noticed it and he started drug testing me because you were just you were just getting blazed like all day you mean like wake up and smoke and yeah you know winter's in the Cape it's pretty slow man and kids just get bored and getting dumb shit where are you where were you on the Cape? East Ham you went to Nasset Regional great school yeah school

I grew up in Antuck and then we went to high school in the Cape. I just got back from the Cape. Because I do like an intro, you know, and I was just literally talking about the Cape because my wife, my wife's families, you know, all from Boston. Yeah. And they live in Falmouth. So we go to Falmouth every year. We rent a house in Falmouth.

That's one of my dreams for sure. I want to be able to go back there at least once a year. I miss it very much. Yeah. It's awesome. I mean, it is awesome. place but i but i will say though when it in the winter when everything shuts down and it gets dreary you know yeah yeah yeah it gets it gets a little it's it's it's tough man it's a tough

it's long winters it's winking cold you know um but yeah that that was probably and then and then in college you know i i picked up that little thing called xanax and when i moved to l.a i decided no more of that and withdrawing from that was a disaster i don't that is the dangerous that's the one that's a spooky one dude

you can't sleep your brain is just on fire anxieties through the roof because you don't have you know and so I just kept

I just drank away the withdrawals I double down on the booze September always feels like the start of something

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And did it I mean this sounds crazy But did that help you get through the withdrawals Of the Zanax, the booze? yeah yeah not the proper i should have went to a doctor 100% right yeah the moral of all these stories is talk to your parents talk people love you in your life you just have to tell them hey i'm not okay that's all i had to do from the very beginning but i kind of dragged this out until i was 28 it just gets to a point where you're you're in your you know you're getting close to

30 and it's just it's the party boy lifestyle is a tough look yeah it's like you got to get your shit together. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I had a moment in college my freshman year. It's Gasparilla in Tampa, Florida. I don't know if you're familiar with it, but you start drinking at seven in the morning, and then we were done around like three in the morning.

But I had fallen on my face, and I ripped, I still have scars. I still have scars on my face from when I fell. And I'll never forget showing back home after, I think it was after spring break or something i don't know there was some brand the look of my dad's face was like what the fuck yeah um and so when i was 28 i went on a bender by myself woke up on my bathroom floor in a puddle of blood i'm like oh shit and i look in the mirror and i see that same kid you know and i'm like holy shit it's been it's been 10 years and i haven't grown up i'm still that boy running around lost in college, not knowing what to do, drinking like a maniac for no reason. And it kind of clicked.

And it was shortly after Megan and Daryl had Riley, you know, when you hold a baby, a family member, his eyes looking up at me like, I'm looking at you, man. Like, what are you, what are you doing? I'm going to be watching you and learning from you. So I was like, this is a bad example for this kid and yeah I'm just surrounded by a lot of love and I kind of was I got lost to my own shit and forgot about that and you went did you you went to treatment you put yourself in treatment not dude I'm a psychopath I just ran every day just ran and then my friend called me up she said hey I know you're sober now let's do the New York City marathon and at first I was like no absolutely not

and then I thought about it I was like well that'll keep me running and on the weekends I'm going to have to do like 10 mile 15 mile runs yeah I won't want to do anything but on the couch yeah so I said all right fuck it I have four months to train

let's just do it I partnered up with Boston Children's Hospital this girl Hans she's amazing she was rooting for me and yeah dude I just I just ran ran from my demons you're like Forrest Gump yeah

I was running. Yeah. Wow, dude, that's so interesting because someone who wakes up in a pool of their own blood, you know, it's like, oh, check me into facility. But you were able to handle that on your own. You know, everyone has their own ways of dealing with their destruction and their demons, you know. It doesn't have to be the, you know, that one way, you know, but what happens when you stopped running? You know what I mean? Were you able to sort of get it out of your system?

And then even going back, you know, from a psychological aspect, were you able to sort of understand why you were doing the things that you were doing? You know, like that self-loathing or lack of self-love or all that stuff, you know? Yeah, lack of self-love was pretty much my main thing. I was just like a self-destroar. You know, everyone, we're all partying. And then I'd go home and just continue the party alone with whatever, what was in front of me.

And because, yeah, a lot of my friends are like, oh, trainer, you don't, you don't have a problem. I was like, you, you don't know me at all. Like, we're part of you buddies. You don't have a fucking clue who I am. Yeah, it all stems from this, this thing that happened to me when I was 12. You know, I got betrayed by my friends. And when you get that betrayal, I mean, I talked about it.

We had Dr. Drew on our podcast and explained to him the story pretty much, you know, it was one of my first time drinking. I sat down to pee because I didn't want to stand in piss everywhere. I made a joke. I was like, oh, dude, I just peed all over my balls. And they were like, how did you do that? Do you have a little dick? Do you have a little dick? And they were trying to pull my pants off. And I'm fighting them off. And then finally that ended. And then I pass out and I wake up the next morning. I get in the shower. I was like, that was kind of weird. and I get the shower, I looked down, they had drawn all over my genitals, you know, measurements.

Wow. And then I guess there were pictures taken or something that I found out later on. So, and I remember, I just look it down in the shower, bawling my eyes out. And I looked in the mirror, and I was, and I, like, it was like a spooky, like, spiritual fucking mask. Just, I put on. And I, I'm okay. no one's going to fucking get through me

no one will know me I'm good I walk out of there all right guys great sleepover that was mad fun I'll see you at school mom picks me up oh I had a blast super we played video games great times and just held on to that secret till I was like 18 years old dude

I don't know what it is as a young There's just so much shame dude yeah yeah crazy shame you know yeah and you know I heard something recently because at the end of the day It's just like a bad sleepover and some shit happened. Like, no one survives childhood. Right.

You just grow up. Yeah. You know? And I put in a lot of work. So the running helps drying out. But sobriety, you do have to do a lot of work on yourself. And that's why I did really enjoy the AA program and doing the 12 steps. Because that's where I was able to dig deep and be like, okay, this is, this is who I am.

this is why I did these things. Oh, so you did, you did do it. Yeah, it took me a year and a half because I'm, yeah, I'm just like a, no, fuck everybody. I got this little guy. Right. Fuck off. I don't need your help. Yeah.

And that's gone me nowhere. So, but it took me a year and a half and finally, Bobby Lee saw me at a Christmas party and he knew. Bobby. Dude, he's, that's my guy. That is, you know, I worked with him for two years on a show. Amazing. You know, he was, you know, we did show him. He's my, I fucking love Bobby Lee.

Like, he's, he's, he's my little angel, dude. He's the best. He saved my life. Did he really? Yeah, he, he, he runs a meeting and he's like, listen, dude, I know you're, you don't do the aid, just, just show up to one meeting. It's my meeting. It's a great group of people. I would love for you to come.

I said, all right, fine, fuck it, I'll go. And I went, hated the first meeting. I go, that's all right. I got to go back. go back. All right. That was a little better. Still hate this drive. It's a 45 minute drive. I'm fucking upset. And I keep going and going and going. And the more you go to these things, you hear people talk and you realize, you're like, oh, I'm exactly like these motherfuckers. I'm an alcoholic. And this is just how our brains work. And we're in there being vulnerable. I've never seen people be so vulnerable and honest in front of strangers. That was different for me. And it was, it's, it's, it's, Yeah. And then I got a sponsor, started working the steps. And a couple of those, dude, I dragged out. You know, there's some heavy shit in there. And you sit down to do it and you're like, I don't want to fucking do this. A lot of it is I don't want to do it. And then when you do it, you feel much better. That's like the main fucking thing. Honestly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dude. Yeah. So how did you meet Bobby? You know, through Megan, with a pop star sister or anything is possible. So we did Tiger Valley podcast. Oh, you did? Yeah. And I explained that I was sober. And then he saw me. It was just months later at a Christmas party. And he was just like, dude, I know you're not doing the best you can. Like I, because he understands. There's a lot to. But you were sober still. But it were just, but it was still like this isn't going to last.

I was a shell of a human, like still living in fear. Yeah. A lot of fear based lifestyle choices, mentality. You know, for people that are wondering about. getting sober and you know like yeah it's sucked like I lost my mojo I lost in this lifestyle but I realize now three years in I have all that shit that guy that I thought I was getting to with tequila and blow is just there I just I can tap into it whenever I don't have to destroy myself or the fucking people around me I can just I can be me and I'm finally I can walk into anywhere and be like I belong here that was my biggest thing like I don't fucking belong anywhere

my sister's famous I don't belong at this party I don't belong you know it's did that fuck you up at all your sister's fame I know that you know she brought you along yeah and brought you to L.A. and all that is probably incredibly inclusive but but at the same

time we have a ton of siblings on here who have a famous sibling there's a famous sibling and then there's one who's doing their own thing, you know. Or one who is in their same business and, you know, not as big or as of a celebrity as the other. And I always ask the question, Kate, he doesn't hate it, but she's like, golly of her.

I say, are you envious? You know, is there a part of you that's like jealous? You know, like, fuck, man. And nine times out of ten, everyone's saying, no, I'm supportive. And I think it's all bullshit. The only person who said Chad Lowe, because we had Rob and Chadd on. And Chad's like, of course, dude. He's like, I'm doing my little thing over here.

And he's a great director and he's a great actor and all that. But he's like, I'm looking at my brother like, fucking what the fuck? You know, and I'm the same way. I'm like, it doesn't mean I don't root for my sister. But of course, I'm like, it's bullshit, man. Like, I'm just as talented. Like, give me an opportunity to work with Cameron Crow. You know, like, fuck this.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, 100%. I have that. yeah there's always a little bit of envy now the thing is is i i can't sing so and i see her have to do these a lot of these shows during like that is too fucking hard but like the bullshit part of it like you know go do a fun tv show interview uh you know all the fun stuff that she actually struggles doing that's like not her thing her thing is getting a studio right of hit song yeah that all that other stuff i'm like oh that's a blast dude what do it was i want to do some of that

shit yeah like well the other thing too is forget about talent forget about the fact that you sing or you don't sing or that i'm an actor and kate's an actor or that even she's a woman and i'm a man i mean those things are completely different you know her trajectory is different than mine it's it's almost like sometimes you go to this place of it's just not fair you know what i mean like it's touched it's total bullshit stuff but it's like well how come how come they got lucky you know what about what about me like in whatever it is that i'm doing like yeah those things creep and you know they've been a they've been a cause of my anxiety because i've well documented on the show i've been through crazy anxiety through all my life and on lexopro and all that you know

but um a lot of it was stemmed from initially when i first went down to a knee thinking i was dying at the age of 23 years old not understanding what was going on or what anxiety even was and trying to unpack it and, you know, there was a heavy root of just, I was trying to be an actor and I wasn't taking it seriously and it wasn't working out and everyone else is succeeding in front of me and, you know, peers and siblings and everything else. And it was just this thing of I'm not good enough. And it developed into that sort of lack of self-love and self-loathing and I'll never be what I am. And bang, it all hit me at one time. went down to a fucking neos actually going into a strip club with my friend you know in hollywood and i was like and i go into the strip club and john's like where were you i'm like dude i don't know i think i might have had a heart attack but i didn't because i'm here like something fucking happened to me dude and he's like what i didn't know we didn't get it you didn't

get what anxiety a panic attack was i remember i had like a vodka tonic to try to like all myself and I was like, shake it off. But I just had to get out of there. I'm like, dude, something's up, you know. And of course, ran all the tests. Went to the doctor, did hearts, everything. Like, you're fine. So I was like, oh, shit.

This is the beginning of the end or the beginning of the beginning. You know, because you've learned so much. I've learned so much about who I am through this sort of process of dealing with anxiety, you know. Oh, yeah, man. Character gets built. My son had it for a little bit going into eighth grade. And I was able to sort of understand him and deal with him on a different level than most parents would who haven't experienced it themselves. I've, drew talking on my podcasts and, you know, I went to this place called the Hoffman Institute.

And, you know, you realize just even what you do with your show, I'm sure, as long as you're authentic and honest, there's so many people you can actually help and touch without realizing it, you know. so it's a blessing and a curse I would say blessing and a curse yeah I forget constantly we have people call in that I listen to the show and they'll be like I'm sober because of Ryan and that that shit trips me crazy yeah that I don't understand yeah to go back to the um the jealousy I think I'm more jealous that she she like knows her thing she's always known her things she was like 13 like everything around me it makes sense because I I watched her since she was 13. Disregard friends.

Disregard anybody and just was in her studio making songs. And they were shit at first. But she kept making them every day. Like she did not stop. So I saw her put in her like 20,000 hours. And I've just been jealous of like, why can I figure out what the fuck I'm good at and what I can do? You know, that's where it comes in.

We're very totally on the same way. I look at Kate and I'm like I just envy her work ethic I envy her confidence you know her her sort of just bullish attitude in the best way meaning like no I'm gonna get this shit done you know I deserve to be here and I deserve to be on top and I am the fucking queen because she is and and that confidence I'm more like oh god like did they like me I just did that take like I hope I don't fuck up my lines because then everyone's going to think that I'm terrible person.

I mean, this is the bullshit that goes on in my infantile head where she's just like, boom, I'm great. And I'm going to show everyone why I am. I'm like, God damn it. If I had her work ethic, I'd be George Clooney. Yeah.

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alcoholic men just talking some real shit and that's been very beneficial because growing up I didn't I never trusted men specifically after what had happened to me so it's been nice to like I don't know how have bond with other dudes it's amazing how impactful that situation was for you specifically yeah and you sort of didn't amend it but then you said at the of the day it's a sleepover with idiot kids and yeah i have two boys and they're all fucking idiots we were all idiots you know yeah um and if that had happened to someone else maybe it wouldn't have impacted them the way it did you we were all different humans we have different sort of ideas you know um but that moment i mean it was just humiliating there's some shame around it

that it's just fucking set you off it's crazy i mean it is pretty gnarly though to wake up and to have that happen you know yeah to you i mean that's pretty gnarly at 12 at 12 you know yeah maybe maybe at 25 you know yeah it would have been fine right totally i feel like all right guys yeah yeah yeah cool yeah i don't know i yeah i just you got to just like speak up i guess like don't hold all the shit but maybe it was different times i feel like now it's like now it's a little better. It's easier to say things. I don't know.

So then you started this podcast. So tell me about the show. Yeah. I've been wanting to do it for a while. And then finally we had their opportunity and Megan's team was behind it. They were like, yeah, this is actually going to be a great idea. Because I just wanted people to see Megan's personality. I always like, you know, she grew up with me and my younger bro and we just, we like, we

like to smoke weed and watch South Park. We just had, we just like, she has a great sense of humor that I don't think anyone really realizes. They're like, oh, she's the base girl, even 10 years later, which I feel like now she's finally getting out of that with TikTok and the podcast. But she's just, and she's really smart. I just wanted people to see her. And I just wanted to be there to help guide her as a co-host and, you know, help her

when we have people on to ask some questions and kind of keep things wrong. because also she's got a bit of, I don't know if it's ADHD or something, but she's bouncing all over the place. And then they get stuck talking about like the dumbest shit. I'm like, okay, hey, hey, let's move on to something here. Yeah, she's okay with that. She agrees. No, no, no, no.

I mean, it's funny because we both have podcasts with our sisters, which is fucking rad. But it's so funny because I, if the train is going down a track, right, I am going hard lefts and hard rights. and Kate is the one who's like steering it back onto the track you know she's like okay like because I am about minutia like I like to get into the

details because that's where the that's where the juices you know what I mean so someone will say something on one of our shows and I'll be like okay well hold on go back a second when you said this and then all of a sudden you go down this rabbit hole that one little moment and Kay's just like

okay like back to the notes Yeah, I mean. Has it been fun, no? I mean, just rapping with your sister, like, the greatest thing about our podcast, I get to, you know, obviously I'm doing solos right now because she's busy, but to sit down with your sibling and just riff and talk and be a part of a conversation for an hour, you know? Yeah, it's the best. It's been like family therapy for us. Yeah, yeah.

Especially since when we first made the deal to do the podcast, I was still drinking at the time. So to my surprise, when it really started, I was like, oh, we're going on sobriety. Here we go. I decided to. And I was just, it was a nightmare in the beginning. I hated every second of it because I was just really, I was riddled with anxiety. I hated myself. I did so much shame.

And like it was the worst, dude. And I had to watch all of these episodes back and pick the TikToks, make sure, you know, get the right edits. And I hated watching myself. it was it was a it was an experience in the beginning were you able to talk about it on the show about how yeah yeah yeah how just your anxiety and how yeah all yeah yeah oh yeah yeah it's great so great though it's horrible but amazing like that's that's what people want to hear you know what I'm saying no if you go from like the first few episodes to now I feel like I've turned into a completely different human it's it's bizarre yeah sobriety is a magical thing I highly recommend it

highly recommended yeah well it's it's funny i mean i've talked about this on another podcast it's you know when do you know that you're an alcoholic i talked to charles kelly you know you know charles kelly from lady lady a lady antebellum like he you know he started that group anyway okay okay he um he he got sober um but his drinking was really interesting it wasn't like waking up in a pool of blood or anything crazy it was just sort of becoming such a crutch that he couldn't really do much without it as far as writing music or playing golf or anything like that and it wouldn't be like two drinks it would turn into like 80 drinks you know yeah and and then I got scared because I'm like that sounds like me kind of

you know I was like I've never thought myself an alcoholic at all but I'm like maybe am I drinking too much yeah you know so what point at what point do you say that you're an alcoholic like i mean it would be like if you were like had to crack open a couple cold ones before this or something maybe but you know like it's it's stuff where like you shouldn't need a drink to do but that's not really what it is you find out on your own but i'm just thinking of like if you want some like specifics you've seen it you've been to all these meetings and you've met a bunch of alcoholics right and i'm sure there's different ones there's ones who are like way off the chart have you met some where their stories are kind of like

uh yeah i guess you're an alcoholic every time they go out there they're blacking out but they're but they're pushing that you know 30 to 35 range and they're just like i don't want to be this person anymore i can't afford to not remember what i did every single weekend like it could be something like like that you know it doesn't have to be like you got booze stashed everywhere and yeah and it just comes down to like i don't know if you're hiding a lot of of shit with booze if you're if you're stuffing some stuff down yeah you know instead of doing that you just dig deep into it and and and you're just like clear about it you're not yeah you're not substituting feelings that was the other thing like I so yeah I just I go what the fuck are

these and they were my feelings I was like I don't like any of these yeah yeah a lot a lot of crying alone just like really going through it bro. How much better do you feel now though? I mean, like how I, I just went to Italy on a solo trip, a trip of a fucking lifetime, okay? Oh, you did? Yeah, I, I, I, solo, solo, solo, two weeks. And it was a, it was a enlightening experience for me because I'm sitting there and I'm learning how to say, I'm an alcoholic in Italian because water is wine. Yeah. I go, yeah, I'm an alcoholic. I'm having a blast. Like, I'm sober and I'm having the most fun I could ever possibly have. And when I first sobered up and I was going on dates, you know, grows to be like, well, you're done drinking forever.

I was like, well, if I go to Italy, I'm going to have wine. Yeah. You know, fast forward to three years. And it just wasn't of any interest. And I'm, I'm schlepping all my stuff, feeling great. I'm looking around. People are hung over. It's hot as fuck.

And I'm just like, what a great day. Just conquering every day, eating as much as I wanted. You know, there's no empty calories. just pasta gelato, croissants, like going nuts, lost weight by the end of the trip. A little spooky, to be honest, the food's real. Okay, little side track. I got back from Europe, you know, a little while ago. We went to Greece and France.

And we ate, we ate, we ate. And Greece, I'm a huge Greece fan, and I love Greek food and blah, blah, blah. But we ate our fucking faces off. I lost weight. Same thing. The food is so clean. Yeah. It's so delicious and you can taste how clean it is.

Like, it's a different taste. And I get back home and within a week, I'm not even eating bad. I'm not like eating like burgers. I mean, I did have in and out when I first got home. But other than that, you know, other than that, I'm just eating normally. And I was like, yeah, I like bulk. I'm like, holy shit, dude. Yeah, no, it's like, Gary.

Yeah, my first meal back was fat sals, dude, fat Texas. Oh, yeah, fat sales. I'm like, why the fuck, dude? Like, do that. Next, I was just, I was like, I'm getting ripped to shreds here. That sounds as good, though. Yeah. But in general, dude, it's, it's very weird, man.

I don't know, because people would say it, and I didn't believe him. And then I got really tripped up. Yeah, it's just bread, pasta. Like, you're just eating and eating and eating. And yeah. So, I don't know, man. And so that solo trip, I mean, there was never any sort of temptation because that would seem very difficult.

Like, you're in Italy. It's beautiful. It's like wine, cigarettes. Like, oh, God. That makes the trip for me. My problem is, is I don't feel like I can enjoy a moment, a beautiful moment, whether it's a family or a sunset or anything without like a cigarette. I don't really smoke anymore, but like, you know, a cigarette or like a drink or, yeah, now we're here.

You know what I mean? Yeah, you want to be in the movies. I get that, bro. Yeah. When I watched Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, I immediately bought a 12 pack of Bud Heavies and I bought a pack of Marb Reds. and I smoked that entire fucking pack and drank every beer and I felt like dog shit the next day

but like yeah you just your brain romanticizes all these things so and you know you think that's what's happening but in reality it's just you know it's just poison at the end of the day where were you in Italy?

I bounced around what did I do Sorrento Rome Florence Milan and then my buddy's wedding was in Lake Como it was a dream it was amazing did you meet up with people along the way who you didn't you know if you're solo i mean well there are a lot of women i'm sure yeah i made i made some friends i made some friends now when you when you're when you're dating

and right and whatever you want to call that when you're in italy and and relating back to the alcohol is they're like let's go up a drink let's go to a club let's do this you're just like i just i can't i don't and they're cool with it yeah yeah i mean i'll be honest with you okay i used hinge right now on hinge you could see you say what you do and don't do. Got it. So no alcohol. So they see it.

They double down. They're like, so you don't drink. I'm like, no, sober. And it's, you know, some would they feel bad. Like, can I drink in front of you? It's not a problem at all. Live it up. You're on vacation.

I'm on vacation. You know, we're good. I met this Italian girl and she was funny. She was like, oh, you could never tell my mom this. She would rip you to shreds daily. Oh my God. You can't handle your alcohol. Like, dude, like some Chris Maltasanti shit, dude, like, well, you can't drink.

That's amazing. That is funny, dude. Oh, my God. It was fucking great, bro. Amazing. I loved it so much. Where are you in L.A.? I'm in the Valley?

I'm in the Valley. I'm going to slowly make my way west side, okay? So I moved out of, I moved out of Megan's house right before she got into this new one. And it was a big thing, man. She bawled her eyes out. And in that moment, she goes, all right, well, I'm picking the apartment. I go, okay, that's fine. You know, so I'm paying way too much for this apartment in the valley, but it's fine.

It's super close to the house. Yeah, I will eventually, it was my first step out. She just loves this shit out of me at the end of the day, dude. That's, that's what it comes down to. And it is nice when you're someone in that spot in life, you want the people you love around you to experience everything with you. Well, you don't want to do it alone. Yeah, my whole family lives 10 minutes from my mom, my dad. And Kate, Wyatt, you know, Boston, we're all within 10 minutes from each other, you know.

It's the dream. So it's, it is. It truly is. I just personally want to be closer to the ocean. Yeah. Well, that's, I'm a big fisherman. I own a boat. I fish.

Like, I, the ocean is a necessity for me. Same. Needed in my life. Well, dude, I'm back mid-August. Let's hook up. You should come, come on the boat. Do I'm so down. there. Yeah. We don't leave for tour until the end of August. September 1st is when it starts.

Okay, cool. So we have a couple weeks. How long are you gone for? September, October. It's honestly not too long. Seven weeks. Yeah, she's just trying to figure out if she likes to do it with the kids, you know, or like if she should not bring them everywhere. Yeah. It's, yeah. You guys ever fight? Yeah, all the time. Yeah, we pick her all the time. You do. Way less now, though, now that I've sobered up and like, I used to, she'll, she'll say something, right? She's, she's not the best with her words in some circumstances okay and I used to like bottle that shit it would be something simple and all she's doing is being nice and offering a job or something so here's an example she's doing rehearsals and we have friends over that they did the podcast

you know I I value their perception of me and she's like hey I need someone to film my rehearsals can you do it like X amount of money a day and I'm like no like I want to do my own shit She's like, well, you got nothing going on and you need that money. And I'm like, fine, wow. And before I would just fucking burst. Like, fuck you. Like, shut the fuck.

And I just, I, nope, just don't want to do it. Just don't, just, yep, don't want to do it. And then I called her, I called her later, I go, hey, you were 100% correct. I need the money. Yeah. And it's an easy job. I got nothing to. I, I'm not, you know, yes, I'd love to.

I just didn't like how you. asked me in front of our guests. That's all. And she goes, oh, whoa, okay. Whoa, I fucked up. My bad. I'm so sorry. That's the conversation now.

Communication. What do you know? Exactly. Yeah. And just taking a beat instead of just snapping. That's what I would do before. Yeah, well, I mean, tone is everything, by the way. You know, because you could say that, I don't know how she said it, but it's belittling

in a way. And I'm not saying she was trying to, but it's. there's a condescension, there's belittlement. It's sort of like, you got nothing going on right now. It's like, dude, what the fuck? Like, how do you not know that that is, would hurt not just me, but anybody? You know, I mean, I'm a fragile man. Like, you're telling me, by the way, I don't even care if there's fucking people here.

Like, you don't have anything going on anyway. Like, what, you don't have shit going on anyway. You're like, oh, God, like, fuck you. I'll start crying. Yeah. I know. I totally get that. I totally get that. I'm working on my. Yeah. Yeah. My sister, again, not knowing it and only praising me. But I remember she said something to me. She's like, she goes, you know what? You should, you need to direct. You need to direct and you need to produce. And this is, I don't know, you know, this is what you need to do. And meanwhile, I mean, that's a love of mine for sure. Honestly, that's probably where I'm most talented. But I'm an actor. And that's how I make. my money. But I'm not at her status or my family status or anything like that. But I took it as like, oh, you shouldn't be acting because you're not good enough. And that's my own shit. Yep. It's your own shit. But I was like, oh, thanks, Kate. Thanks. You know what I mean? Like you don't

believe in me when really she's just telling me. No, I mean, you're great at these things. You should pursue them. And I take it as, oh, so you don't think I'm good enough. Yeah. Now, we all live in our own realities that no one else sees we're just making this shit up as we go and we're like this is how this is how that was but it is the beauty it is the beauty of the human condition like yes that's what's so dope about just the individual is we're all fucked up you know what i mean we're we're all we all have our shit there's no doubt about it you know and it's just about the recognition of it and you know the desire or not to change it some people are happy being the way that they are. Some people

are way more comfortable in that space in the chaos, in the pain. They're more comfortable in the pain. Yeah, go for it, living that. Yeah, that's the beauty of your life. You do whatever the fuck you want. Yeah, exactly. Dude, this was really fun. This was awesome. Thank you again for having me. This was fun.

Later, bro. Later. Wow. The headline probably is going to be Oliver Huntson thinks he's an alcoholic. Oh, gosh. Yeah, what a good dude. What a good dude. You know, you got to admire those people that can pull themselves up out of the shit and then run. Maybe I'll just start running.

My whole life will change. Anyway, thanks, Ryan. I'll see on my boat. Peace. Hi, I'm Janica Lopez, and in the new season of The Over Comfort Podcast, I'm even more honest, more vulnerable, and more real than ever. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship?

Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? Join me for conversations about healing and growth, all from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen. Listen to the new season of the Overcombered podcast, on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. It's important that we just reassure people that they're not alone, and there is help out there. The Good Stuff podcast, Season 2, takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a non-profit fighting suicide in the veteran community.

September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join host Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines of One Tribe's mission. One Tribe, save my life twice. Welcome to Season 2 of The Good Stuff. to the Good Stuff podcast on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The Super Secret Bestie Club podcast season four is here. And we're locked in.

That means more juicy chisement. Terrible love advice. Evil spells to cast on your ex. No, no, no, no. We're not doing that this season. Oh. Well, this season, we're leveling up. Each episode will feature a special bestie, and you're not going to want to miss it.

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