Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - The Medical Medium

Episode Date: January 15, 2020

Anthony William, aka the Medical Medium joins Kate and Oliver on this week's episode of "Sibling Revelry." He shares his story of how the Spirit of Compassion has helped him to heal thousands of peopl...e across the world from chronic illness. Anthony explains why "we're so sick now, we think it's normal" and reveals how things like celery juice, wild blueberries, and avoiding eggs can help prevent and cure these sicknesses. Executive Producers: Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson, and Sim SarnaProduced by Allison BresnickEditor: Josh WindischMusic by Mark HudsonThis show is brought to you by Cloud10 and powered by Simplecast. This episode is sponsored by Rothy's.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:30 Proof of Life on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling rivalry.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling rivalry. That's good. Today we have Anthony Williams, aka the medical medium. This was awesome. This was really cool. He's obviously been, I've read his books. My wife has been obsessed with him for a long time.
Starting point is 00:02:30 is the man behind the celery craze he is and which i am a part of now and so are you guys love it love the celery juice but having him on was really fun i did my personal research on him and saw what he was like in this in other shows and other podcasts and it was my goal to make him crack a little bit loosen him up loosen him up a little bit i feel like i think we i feel like we got there you know i think that his work is very serious to him it's something that he lives with. It's also something that I think that the outside, a lot of people in the outside world find very skeptical, which is understandable. And it's fun to have people like that on because you can kind of challenge them a little bit. And you know, you do have moments where you
Starting point is 00:03:15 think, how is this possible that someone could have such a gift and a connection to, as he says, the spirit of compassion, that he's able to really just diagnose what's going on in someone's body look there's skeptics there's always skeptics in everything okay and everything that we sort of do or that people especially with something like this when you are i mean think about it for a second let's just get down to brass tacks okay this is a man who's saying that there was a spirit of compassion who contacted him from another realm at the age of four years old or so and he diagnosed his grandmother with lung cancer and now he is being told by this spirit of compassion the remedies how to sort of heal mankind.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Okay, when you just look at that, you have to, you have to, it sounds crazy. It sounds crazy. And by what's great about him, but he says it. He knows. He understands that. You know what I mean? He knows it sounds crazy. But I also, you said something that I think is really important, which is even if it is
Starting point is 00:04:18 crazy, everything that he's putting out there is in the best intention of someone's health and their longevity. So to sort of put. it down is counterproductive really because everything that he talks about is quite good for you. Yes. Whether it be the foods that you're eating or the supplements that you could be taking, all of these things are... The problem is, is there's just a bunch of assholes out there. Holly!
Starting point is 00:04:46 No, there are. There's a bunch of assholes out there, I think, who are just trolling and sort of rip them apart just because it's something different. You know what I mean? Right. I'm serious. They're not looking at sort of his intentions. They're not looking at this idea that he's sort of trying to help people. They're just sort of saying this isn't scientifically based and there is no real empirical evidence and you are sort of ruining, you know, this and hurting people. I'm going to play devil's advocate to what you're saying right now because some of those people
Starting point is 00:05:19 would say that they feel that it's irresponsible of people to go out and say these things. because it's actually doing people a disservice because they think they're going to get healed by things that won't necessarily heal them. Totally. So that being said. But isn't that up to the individual? Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:37 We are all free to believe and do the things that we want to do. And I think there's a way to say that that is kind and nice. And not saying asshole. And meaningful. Then people just having these harsh criticism and judgments. I don't mean that you're all assholes, you know. I don't want to. I think, though, that when anybody's trying to do something for the betterment of mankind, that it's a wonderful thing.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And his purpose in life and his gift is to do just that. And I think that he has been very helpful to a lot of people. Right. And believe it or not, you know, you can be a skeptic or not. I have not personally, you know, gone through his program because I haven't necessarily really needed to, but I have seen. I have seen. You probably should do his I know. You say you don't need to. I have actually Aaron, Aaron, my wife Aaron has a best friend who was going through a situation that was beyond anything you could possibly imagine with her
Starting point is 00:06:46 body. It was this chronic illness. She didn't know what it was, went to every fucking doctor. she read the books was religious about practicing and it healed her it cured her it made her life amazing she has a kid and things are different the other thing about anthony though is just aside from him being the medical medium he's such a nice person so nice he's such a sweet person a great disposition you know his energy is infectious you know he really cares he's passionate about this you know what i mean whether you believe it or not okay and everyone should find a passion like he has found his and really sort of go after it like he has gone after his and it's it's a part of him yeah i'm grateful for people who also just spread the word of health
Starting point is 00:07:39 and taking care of themselves and at the end of the day we all should be eating more fruits and vegetables anyway yeah i drink the celery juice and i do every morning oh my god i i I just, it's, I just crap myself. It's crazy. Oh, it's, I'm crapping from my throat. Oliver. I feel, I feel it. It's almost like if I, if I eat breakfast and eat celery juice, I can feel the egg
Starting point is 00:08:05 McMuffin being pulled out of my throat. Oh, well, first one, you're not supposed to eat and then take the celery. You're supposed to wake up with an empty stomach. No, I know. I know. This is an egg McMuffin from like 1993. I feel that when I take the celery juice every morning, I kind of do a little walk or I'll move around with the celery juice. And I do.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I find that I actually have felt a real difference in the last couple months as I've been doing that than I ever have. I also feel that since I've been doing that, my tolerance for things that aren't good for you is way less. So if I drink, I feel it in my stomach in the morning, which is different. And then if I have celery juice, I actually can feel the detox. It's kind of wild. So my body feels clean. So anything that hits my body that isn't good for it, I can feel it having an effect. I mean, I don't know if that's just me.
Starting point is 00:09:07 No, no, no, no. Because when I sit on the toilet, which, by the way, it's like sprinting nine times out of ten because it comes on strong. Anybody who does celery juice is actually going to know it all the first time. It's nuts. It's like everything's good. And, you know, in my car.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I dropped the kids off from school. And I'm like, oh, shit. And I hit the gas and I go like 150 miles an hour to get home. But it feels like you are eliminating just toxins out of your body. Anyway, really grateful he came on. It was so much fun. Yeah, really fun. And it makes me want to talk to more psychics and more mediums and different fields.
Starting point is 00:09:43 because I think we had just such a blast with that, you know? Yeah. And we do believe in spirits and stuff. We don't believe that we're all alone here, even though we understand why some people do believe that this is it. But we come from another school. So it was fun for us. Yeah. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:10:02 Here he is. Enjoy. The medical medium himself, Anthony Wood. We always start with everybody that we, interview give us your background like where you grew up right and then of course we'll get into like when you were four and you had you we'll do quickly do that most of my life in the state of main that's you know right up there in the woods so that's where kurt's from our dad our stepdad is from yeah you know there you and kurt russell yeah two peas in a pie no nobody else
Starting point is 00:10:35 comes from up there i don't know it must be just us too that's it and stephen king i don't know That's kind of an awesome trio. That's a good trio. It's an interesting trio. But it's crazy. And I dedicated my life bringing information no one's ever heard about health because it comes from up here, from above, from the spirit of compassion. So that's been my entire mission.
Starting point is 00:10:58 It's like solving the mysteries with the information I hear perfectly clear. So it started at age four. Heard a voice. Woke up one morning and heard a voice. But it wasn't in my head. I wish it was. I swear to God it would have had an easier life. if it was in my head it would have been so much easier it was from the outside and you can hear it
Starting point is 00:11:18 you actually hear it yeah yeah you can hear it perfectly clear like i hear you and that's what's made it so darn hard the whole time whoa and but it makes it so people don't you know people know in the spiritual movement if you're exhausted or you're tired or you've you've say you've you've exhausted yourself in some way in life right and you're and you're spiritually tuned in and you're channeled and all this other stuff. Well, it's okay because you can just crash and call it a day. It doesn't matter what condition I'm in. I could be like book deadline, work till 5 in the morning.
Starting point is 00:11:51 I'm totally shot. Then two hours later, no sleep, back to work. Then on the phone trying to help somebody or whatever it is or somebody coming into an office and seeing me, whatever. And I could be like literally half dead, but I'm going to hear the voice because no matter what, if you're awake, you hear it. If you're awake, you hear it. You can't avoid it.
Starting point is 00:12:09 So when you were little, you grew up in Maine. Did you grow up by the water? Did you grow up in the woods? Yeah, in the woods. Yeah, exactly. And did you have a picturesque type childhood? You had three siblings, mom and dad. Were they together?
Starting point is 00:12:23 Did you have a, you know, what was your family unit like? Family, family was solid. Without my family, this would have been so hard. Right. This would have been so hard. And your, and your, yeah, I had good family support. Yeah. You had good family support.
Starting point is 00:12:34 It wasn't easy. Amazing. Nothing's easy. You know what I mean? It's like there was no, it wasn't picture perfect. you know and it's it can't be but i've been lucky i've been lucky fortunate in a sense where you know really supportive family a lot of people know about your first experience with your grandmother i believe and maybe you can just tell us that story real quick about the first time that you realize that
Starting point is 00:12:58 you were connecting to something you know i woke up just like everybody wakes up in the morning and they're up right and i and i opened my eyes and then i hear a voice perfectly clear right there right then and it was, it was scared me, because I'm like, who's in the room with me? I have that. I have the same thing. I do. I have this. She hears voices.
Starting point is 00:13:20 Okay. Yeah. I don't talk about it, but I, publicly, but I mean, now I do. But I know, I have this. Well, okay, then exactly. So, so when you hear that, you just get, you get frightened a little bit, and then I jumped up. I looked out the window.
Starting point is 00:13:34 I opened the door in the bedroom. And, you know, here I'm a really small, really. little and I'm really confused so then I run downstairs it really isn't any anything happening I ask about it and the way I could and the best way I could and I just kind of shucked it off for a little bit and then it came again and then but it it was it was gentle it was gentle very compassionate and and for some reason it was it was agreeable you know it wasn't it was frightening in the sense that who is this right but at the same time, it's okay. It's going to be okay. I was starting to get a sense that this is going to be
Starting point is 00:14:13 okay. I think, you know, the power of whatever all of this is, it just kind of helped me along with it because it wasn't just the voice. It was the spirit of compassion. I talk about it in the first book, medical medium. The spirit of compassion is at the fingertip of God. And, you know, I tell people that, I've talked to people before, they're like, I don't believe in God. And I say, that's okay. What do you believe? Do you believe in something else up? there. Do you believe in the light? Do you believe in something else? Is there, is it just a big ocean up there? Do you believe in God? I mean, I do. Do you believe in God in the biblical sense of God? Yes, and very much so in that sense, right? But at the same time, I mean, you know,
Starting point is 00:14:56 I got really good friends. They just believe that there's this, there's this all-knowing creator. Then I have, I have a friend that just believes it's just a light source, right? I got somebody that believes that it's just the universe. And I say, well, talk to me. And they're like, no, it's the universe. It's just the universe, right? And it's all the same to me. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:17 That's the thing. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's the beauty. That's the whole point. Yeah, it's all the same to me, right? And so the power of that source, you know, I think really helped me with this because I didn't take it so hard right at the get-go.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I think I was probably under some kind of trance. probably to give me, like to soothe me and to keep me calm why I had to adjust from the spirit of compassion. And I really believe that. And it's a voice that's very soothing. Hey, look, if someone else got this gift and heard everything perfectly clear,
Starting point is 00:15:56 and it could be a different voice to them because they needed to hear a different voice. They needed to hear, I needed to hear this voice. And specifically, do you, Do you still hear this voice? Every day. You do. Non-stop.
Starting point is 00:16:11 And is the voice a specific voice, meaning like, sort of explain that it was an older? It's an older, older man. Man, right. That's the voice. Calm, soothing, slightly joyful, depending. Has a little bit of a sense of humor. Sounds like, sense of humor no one probably would think was a sense of humor. Sounds like Santa Claus.
Starting point is 00:16:32 Yeah. Hey, look. Oliver. I called them Santa Claus before. I've called them a lot of things. Now, did it take you, because I know in my experience, I actually had to go to someone because I wanted to learn how to shut it off. For me, when it started to get, it was too scary for me,
Starting point is 00:16:52 and I didn't like it, and I would wake. I'd have, like, my best friend's father passed away. He kept coming to me all the time. And it just, I just didn't want it. So I was 15, and it was interesting because I, in your book, you do talk about being 15 and that being a time that you were sort of like
Starting point is 00:17:11 I want to shut this off. Oh yeah. Yeah, I was desperate. Desperate to shut this off. And I learned how to do that. Now, did you have the support? Like, I had the support of my mom who really does sort of reach out
Starting point is 00:17:23 into this world that I think, you know, some people have a hard time grasping to actually take me to the right people to teach me how to tool the tools. But like, did you reach for your family in the way of like communicating to them what was going on? I always stayed, yes, we always stayed tight, for sure.
Starting point is 00:17:39 You know, we always did. It was important. But no family or anyone, no matter what, just it, it, when you're in that place where I don't want to do this anymore. I don't want to hear this voice because it's not just hearing a voice every day. It's hearing a voice telling me everything that's wrong with every single person that comes near me. Meaning what's wrong with every aspect of their health. Are their adrenals okay? What's wrong with their thyroid?
Starting point is 00:18:06 Do they have a brain tumor? Do they have cancer? Do they not have cancer? Do they have this? Do they have that? And it's non-stop. You're sitting in school. It was like when I was sitting in school.
Starting point is 00:18:15 That's so crazy. And, you know, I was sitting in school. Oliver's like, please tell me what's wrong with me. At what point, I know. Am I dying? No, but at what, is there a point where you feel like you're going crazy? I mean, is there an acceptance of this voice? Meaning, like, because a lot of some people might end up on the street talking to themselves.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Yeah, what eliminates the crazy factor. is that you're always right with what's wrong with the person. So it's just you can't escape that. So like for instance, in class, right, okay, the other child's sitting next to me in elementary school, all right? And Spirit of Compassion said, this child has meningitis. Okay. So I got up and I talked to the teacher and I said, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:58 that classmate, the person next to me has meningitis. And so she got scared and she asked, she called upon that classmate and asked if you're okay and he said it was fine he said he was perfectly fine there's nothing wrong nothing going on and so then she called our parents in his parents my parents said so now we're all there and you know because it's kind of alarming like first of where would i even get that how would i even claim you're claiming something yeah yeah yeah and i'm really young so think about that so after the dust cleared he didn't come to school the next day he was in the hospital with 105 temperature with meningitis. And so you can cancel out the crazy factor
Starting point is 00:19:39 really easily, especially when your family knows you're always right. They see how you're right all the time. You've helped out different various people in their circle and lots of people in their circle. So, you know, when that happens, you just, it, you can't be like, oh, oh, it's crazy. And then you know, you're not. You know you're not. And when you know you're not, and you're doing God's work or the universe's work, you know, however someone might think or feel, you just move forward. You're just like, okay, let's just solve problems then. Let's save lives. Let's do that. Did it become sort of like a lifelong journey then for you to actually understand the science behind the things that you're doing? Right off the bottom, like from the start, right there.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Spirit's telling me about viruses, what they do, how they mutate, how they're responsible for all these different conditions and people's symptoms from everything from neuropus. to trigeminal neuralgia. I'm hearing that at eight, nine years old. Holy shit. So the spirit is your educator. Oh, yeah. You didn't have to open textbooks to learn.
Starting point is 00:20:40 You were being educated. I never opened up a textbook. All the books are advanced medical information that doctors are using across this country and globally right now. And it came from up here. That is being spoken to you. People steal from it.
Starting point is 00:20:51 I call it steal as they'll take it. They'll stick it in some other bogus article that has misinformation or a science study that didn't do anything for anybody and they'll take my piece. that's actually only from spirit. It's never been from anywhere else. And they'll put it in places.
Starting point is 00:21:05 Because they almost like they don't, I'm noticed a lot of people in the industry don't want to give Spirit of Compassion to credit. They don't want to give me the credit for being the guy that brought the celery juice here that's saving millions of people's lives across this globe, right? In the sense where they'll say,
Starting point is 00:21:24 oh, it must have been here before him. It was never here before him. That's the whole point. It started with me in 1975, juicing celery for conditions, and all the reasons why, and it's still with me now. But, you know, people don't, they just don't like the fact that it comes from up here, which I respect 100%. Well, I respect 100%. People have, people have a right to need empirical evidence to trust. It's a good point.
Starting point is 00:21:53 And I think this is what's really interesting. I always have these conversations with people because I always have a very practical, scientific. scientific-based psychic type of personality, right? So I'm very intuitive. I have my thing. But at the same time, I recognize that empirical evidence is something that people need to have faith or to believe a lot of the time. And yet, what's fascinating is that most, especially in our country, are very religious. So they have these strong belief systems. And yet when it comes to science, they don't actually apply those things to their beliefs, which is something that is also not empirical evidence. So I find that, like, you know, no matter what anybody says, right, or no matter what any of the naysayers say, the power of belief and faith is just as important as saying the empirical evidence of saying this thing is actually going to cure this and this is why and here's the evidence. Oh, totally. Well, we're jumping ahead a little bit, but I watched that documentary heel that you were on. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And it was about mind-body. Yeah. Amazing, amazing documentary. Amazing. It was really eye-opening for me. And it was just about how we have the power to heal ourselves. And that belief alone is sometimes just as powerful as any sort of medicine. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:11 So real quick, just jumping back because this is a question. I don't want to forget. But they're your parents. So when you were hearing the spirit and it became more a part of your life, were they 100% accepting of this? Oh, yeah. They were 100% accepting of this right off the start because of what, What I was saying, how can he get, think about, we're talking about the time this was, right?
Starting point is 00:23:37 There's no internet, there's no anything. There's, I mean, the information that was coming out of me was just, you can't deny. I mean, we're talking about, I'm talking about different viruses, different bacteria. I'm talking about what creates acne. I'm talking about how antibiotics create antibiotic-resistant strep varieties that create acne and UTIs that nobody still even knows. today stuff in this that in much of it that i've had to in my practice of i mean i've i've worked on 200 000 individuals one-on-one before the publications of the books medical meeting and so and with the information that has come from spirit of compassion and and since the beginning since it was
Starting point is 00:24:20 always undeniable when i was a stock boy at age 12 in a small grocery store and and i built my own clientele up already and they're pushing carriages around and I'm saying well this is you have diabetes you're like well where'd you get my medical records now when I say hey you have this they're thinking oh you hacked it online to get a medical record sure I don't even know if you can right if it's even possible but you hear that now every now and then from a skeptic or something yeah but the bottom line is it's like it was I built up that clientele really early it was undeniable when you're when you actually have clients and you're 13 14 years old that's crazy were they paying you yeah they were
Starting point is 00:24:57 How much were you making at 13 years old? I wasn't asking for anything They were just offering They were like Here is a 10 I give you 20 bucks Come scan me
Starting point is 00:25:08 I could have put a hat out Or something like that Just to like drop the tips in there Drop the tips in there Well here's the thing You were probably in a small Maine is not the biggest place in the world I don't know what town you grew up in
Starting point is 00:25:19 But I'm sure that this caught on Meaning like Oh the Anthony kid The William kid You got to bring him over to the house Because he can Bill saves a lot of doctor bills. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 00:25:28 Exactly. Well, that was what happened. Did your parents use you? They're not used you, but did they say, oh, honey, like, you go see Mary down here and let's, I want to see if she's okay. I mean, was that part of your gig? Was your family bringing you to different friends and stuff? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:43 That happened all the time. That was going on. There was that. And so it, it, it, but here, you're trying to do this in juggle real life, though. Yeah. Right. Expectations. Puberty.
Starting point is 00:25:55 Girlfriend. All of it, right? Can you read yourself? Of course. Oh, see, I can't. Yeah, of course, of course. The reason why, because I'm not doing the reading. Of course, but of course.
Starting point is 00:26:06 So I'm going to see a question. You don't have to answer this. If it's too personal. If I go deaf, I'm in trouble. If I go deaf, because you can't, you won't be able to hear. Because it's from the outside. Have you self-diagnosed? It's actually block.
Starting point is 00:26:17 That's what I've been trying to tell you. It's actually blockable. It's coming here into the ear from the outside, not from the inside. And I hear it as clear as you. you from the outside, and I could take my hand and wave it like this and kind of block it. Like if you go, la, la, la, la, whatever, you don't want to hear somebody, and you still hear them, though, yelling in the back, right? Well, that's what it is, and you can't stop it.
Starting point is 00:26:37 That's wild. So that's the whole point of what made it so hard, where I was, I was like, okay, well, this is the only thing I'm going to be able to do. Nothing else ever. It's this. I'm stuck with it. I mean, I wanted to, like, you know, I wanted to, like, run a little restaurant when I was 10 years old.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I wanted to, like, cook eggs for everybody. Even though Spirit said, eggs actually feed all manners of disease, even though no one knows that yet, okay? But... Damn it. But... Shit. I love it.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Because what it was was the eggs were actually used in the labs 100 years ago, 80, 90 years ago. They were used in the labs to raise all of the bugs that we all have now, that somehow escaped the labs, Spirit of Compassion says, and got into us and creates the fibromyalgia and the Hashimoto's thyroiditis and multiple sclerosis and all these other things. We eggs were used. as the food for that. So Spirit of Compassion is like, doesn't matter if you're vegan or paleo or whatever you like
Starting point is 00:27:30 or animal protein or not, take the eggs out and you'll have a shot to heal. You keep the eggs in, you're one egg away from getting sicker whenever that's going to be, whether it's a month from now or whether it's going to be another time from now.
Starting point is 00:27:41 But I wanted to run this egg shack, cook scrambled eggs for everybody every day because everybody was happy when you cook them just right. I'm still eating eggs. I don't care what the fuck you say to me. I'm eating eggs. I like my eggs too much.
Starting point is 00:27:53 Yeah. Well, you can still eat them. Don't let me take them away. Do you get an annual physical? No. You don't get a physical. Do you don't see medical, any doctors? No, no, never.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Wow. Okay, but what if, okay, okay, what if you're really sick? Yeah. Will you go see a doctor? Well, it all depends on what kind of sick you're talking about, because here's the difference, okay? If for some reason my gallbladder wants to explode and I need a really good surgeon. Yeah, you're going to. ever experienced that. I'm going to get that. I'm going to go. You better believe it because I've
Starting point is 00:28:29 always said there's life-saving medicine, life-saving doctors. That's not the problem. I'm not anti-science either. It's just that science and research knows nothing about chronic illness. They just know a lot about other things. See, chronic illness, the big mistake was everybody who believes in science doesn't believe in science anymore after they've been sick long enough to get screwed over by medical research and science because medical research and science only protects one thing. One of my best friends. So I can't wait to talk about what I'm about to ask. So I'm going to say right now. Here's how it works.
Starting point is 00:29:00 Medical research and science protects instead of people. It protects itself. That's how it works. Because that's why they've been telling women they're crazy and it's all in their head in the 1950s and 1960s, 1970s, that they're not really sick. And then this is how it works. And now they say your body's attacking itself.
Starting point is 00:29:17 You're faulty. Your genes are faulty. It's the worst shame game, shaming women's bodies. Body shaming to the max right now. of medical research at science and chronic illness is the body shame women and demean them
Starting point is 00:29:28 and disempower them it's built like that why women this is a gender issue because women because women are that critical and important because they change the rules
Starting point is 00:29:37 women have power men don't and they're rule changers that's why that's right even though men have always try to hold the power to change the rule
Starting point is 00:29:47 right now women have the power to really change rules and that's why disempower them knock them down so that when they get sick, they can't do their careers. They can't do what they want to do. They get weakened. Break them down. That's what the industry does. I'm not talking about the great doctors. All the doctors are amazing. Women doctors, men doctors, all of them. Not talking about science. I know scientists, for God's sake. I know great ones. That's not it. I know lab technicians.
Starting point is 00:30:14 But that's not the problem. We're so sick now. We think it's normal. You're supposed to be normal to have fibroids in endometriosis. It's not supposed to be normal. It's supposed to be normal to have fibroids, Hashimoto's, some other thyroid problem, totally normal now. All of it's normal, but science research won't cough it up. They won't chalk it up. There's grandfathered laws going back long before our time that made decisions for us, already for us, without our choice involved. And nobody knows this except severe to compassion. And I've been trying to send that message around. And you know what? I don't think people like it because I've been gaining some speed and it's pissing some people off and i get it i get it but i'm about protecting women kind and
Starting point is 00:30:55 of course man men but protecting women kind and making sure they get what they meet so they can heal giving them a chance you go to the doctor functional medicine doctor today and they're like it's autoimmune your body's attacking itself and they tell your 17 year old daughter or 18 year old daughter that her body's destroying itself we are in such a bad place right now and no one really cares or no one really knows well there's so fighting for every there's so much There's so much autoimmune. It does feel like the autoimmune... Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:23 It's like everyone that you know or family or everybody has some kind of autoimmune. And autoimmune is a mystery word for blaming everybody that their immune system is destroying its organs and its body, right? In the person's body. It's not the truth, though. It was a theory in 1950s. So then what is it? It's viruses creating... It was good.
Starting point is 00:31:46 You guys are siblings. Wait a minute. You guys are siblings. It's viruses and bacteria, but mostly viruses, okay, creating inflammation in the body. Don't you think, though, it is important to have some science that can back these things? Because you're talking about inflammation. I wish there was. There's a lot.
Starting point is 00:32:04 But there are a lot of doctors and people that I really respect and love that are so into this. Well, what about diet, actually? That's an interesting question because all these diet books have come out. D diets have evolved or changed every fucking year there's a new diet, right? There's the paleo. Like, what do you eat? Like, what do you eat for breakfast? Well, the thing is, look, I'm always about taking toxic heavy metals out of the body.
Starting point is 00:32:27 No eggs. Yes, yes. Toxic heavy metals is critical. Do you eat salad? So listen, so. Salad? Salad for breakfast? Like, do you eat meat?
Starting point is 00:32:36 Oh, my God, it's trick me up. I don't eat meat. You don't eat meat. But listen, I recommend meat all the time to people. Right. I recommend all kinds of foods to people. That's not the problem. Meets not the problem.
Starting point is 00:32:48 of why people are sick. So it doesn't have to do as much with the diet. I mean, can I eat anything I want other than eggs? It all depends on what's in you. It all depends on what's in you. How many metals you have and how many bugs you have. So that's the Russian roulette. Okay, we can keep on eating all these things
Starting point is 00:33:09 and keep on eating all these different things. And then all of a sudden, those bugs feed and get happy. And then boom, you're like, what's this tingles and numbness? Why do I have this tingles and numbness? Why do I have? Why am I not feeling good? Which is fatigue? Now you're at a doctor and they have no idea why. They'll give you a trendy reason or something.
Starting point is 00:33:24 Now you're at another doctor, another doctor, you see? And so that's where Spirit of Compassion broke all this down, broke the doors down. People are like, they're like living their lives now because of his information. But because of it, well, foods, right? Right. Okay, back to the fish and all that. Okay, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:43 If you don't have a lot of heavy metals, a lot of mercury in your system, a lot of aluminum, a lot of other metals in your body, right? If you're one of those people that just were born with less of them in there, didn't get a lot more in you somehow through a pharmaceutical or anything else. And if you didn't have a lot of pesticides and herbicides, fungicides, petrochemicals, somehow, plastics, all that build up. If you didn't, if your load of all that junk is down in your liver and it's not really high, then it may not feed your Epstein-Barr virus that everybody has. One of the more 60 varieties of Epstein-Barr, which I'm going to talk about, What's in that water bottle?
Starting point is 00:34:19 And should I be drinking what you're drinking? Uh-oh. Yeah. That's the magic. There it is. That's the mix. That's the mix right there. That's a secret.
Starting point is 00:34:29 That's from spirit. I haven't given anybody that one. The Debs-Steen bar definitely I want to touch one because we have close friends who have. If you got a lot of, okay, I'll just cut it down in this nutshell, total nutshell. You got a lot of poison and you got a few bugs, they get together. The bugs eat the poison, and you get sick. eczema psoriasis is caused by Epstein bar feeding off of copper inside the liver than releasing a dermatoxin.
Starting point is 00:34:54 I'm the first person to come out with that ever, and it's healing people. And the spirit of compassionate, gave me, told you this. Okay, wait, okay, wait. Now one thing comes from anywhere else. That went so fast, I didn't understand what just happened. I got it. I got it. You did not get it. Hold on, I'm going to say it back.
Starting point is 00:35:09 The bugs, the bugs eat the poison, right? And then the bugs then eat the copper from the liver. and then they shit out bad stuff. Yes, the bugs need to eat. Bugs have to eat. That information came from up here. And now you're hearing it out there in articles and stuff, but it only came from here.
Starting point is 00:35:28 Viruses eat food. That's medical medium information, okay? And now it's taking over out there because people are realizing it. Lab technicians are actually chalking it up, finally talking about it. Viruses eat food. And then they crap it out.
Starting point is 00:35:43 And when they crap it out, it's freaking toxic like methyl toxic like worse than methyl toxic like neurotoxins right so everybody gets the tinkles numbness the aches and pains the fatigue then you get an information orgasm right you get the you get the floaters you get the floaters in the eyes right you get the floaters in the eyes and then you get yeah right you get the eye floaters yeah i got that my wife is sitting here with us Aaron she got the floaters in the eye and you need a nap when everybody else doesn't need a nap and then you got all this stuff going on right well this one got the floaters in the eyeballs she's fatigued all the fucking time then you get about a dizziness some people get
Starting point is 00:36:25 about a dizziness some people get vertigo some people get tinnitus all of a sudden the ringing in the air isn't just what everybody says in the spiritual world which isn't correct is you're hearing a ringing because somebody's talking about you that's great or or spiritual energy is talking to you no sorry you're getting a ringing because it's the first beginning of your first bouts of mild tinnitus that or acute that will come later on down the road if you don't clean up your Epstein bar and start eating better or learning medical medium information. That's crazy. No one is
Starting point is 00:36:52 immune or protect it from from all of it unless they know, unless they know what they need to do to protect no one is safe. You know what? You know what Spirit said to me and I was younger spirit said, here's the key you need to know the cause and what to do about it.
Starting point is 00:37:12 How to fix it. Cause and how to fix it. still in today's research and science. I don't care how many articles and bogus bullshit articles you can throw at me and on my lap. I don't care whatever's going on there. Women are suffering. 250 million Americans alone
Starting point is 00:37:24 have no, no, like, cause, no meaning for their symptoms and conditions. No one's telling them what's wrong. Like really wrong. People are suffering. People who can't take a shower. Women who can't get into their shower, they have to time it.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Or it'll flatline them and they're back in bed, right? And it's just, oh, you must have, have autoimmune. Oh, you got lupus. What's lupus? Nobody knows. These are just labels. What's RA? Nobody knows. It's all labels for nobody knows nothing. Science of research knows nothing about chronic illness. But don't get me wrong, they know a crap ton about a whole bunch of other stuff. Science and research is good with a lot of things. I respect it. I like it. I love it. I know a lot of amazing people that are brilliant in this world. And they work with science. They work with physics. They work with things. But when their daughter,
Starting point is 00:38:14 Water's sick, they quickly realize there's no answers. Is the remedy then, is the remedy celery juice and the things that you have put in your book? Or do you have a remedy? Meaning you have this information. You have this new information that science and technology does not have that is being spoken to you from the spirit of compassion, that is coming from a otherworldly beautiful place. But is there a remedy for this? The information is there, but is there an actual way to solve this? Absolutely. There's ways, for instance, eczema and psoriasis, okay?
Starting point is 00:38:52 People who can't even put clothes on, they can't wear clothes, all right? Not just talking about mild eczema, and then they go off of gluten and they don't know why it's helping, but it helps a little, and then they're getting eczema again and they're fopping around with different diets or what? I'm talking about eczema's just bad, right? And they went to 10 doctors and their body's attacking itself, their body's, destroying itself, they're told, right, with axioma. And then, yeah, if you get the copper,
Starting point is 00:39:18 which science research has no idea about that came from spirit of the liver, and then you get the bugs down, like the Epstein bar, and you start killing it off, you're free from Examin's Rises. How do you get the copper out of the liver? Heavy medical medium, heavy metal detox smoothie. It's critical. It's critical.
Starting point is 00:39:34 It's what's getting people, their body's, like, healed. What's in that? You know what I mean? Like, what are we, what are we eating? Yeah, yep. There's the fab five, I'm serious. The fab five, I call it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:47 It's all in his books. I know, but not everyone has read the book who's listening to the podcast. Okay. Yeah, it takes a certain, it takes five things put together in the smoothie. Yeah. It takes a little bit of dals, which comes from the ocean. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Atlantic dals. It takes cilantro. My favorite. But salantro doesn't work on its own. People don't realize that. You need to activate the cilantro. Yeah, yeah, it takes cilantro, okay? It takes wild blueberries.
Starting point is 00:40:18 Yep, wild, it has to be wild blueberries. It takes barley grass juice powder, and it takes spirulina, a really good one. I always tell people just, you know, go to the medical meeting community, see what they're using, they know the best stuff, which is on my directory or whatever, and you'll see the best spirulina and so forth. But the bottom line is, it takes that collaboration of things, because here's how metals work. It doesn't take Corrella. That's disastrous, awful. It moves metal around a little bit into a new spot in your brain
Starting point is 00:40:48 so you get sicker. Just don't do Corrella. Why do you, why? It's a response. It's like, if someone was to carry glass, a whole bunch of glass, you know, and their responsibility was to carry glass.
Starting point is 00:41:06 And, but they were the kind of person that just didn't have the control and dropped it all the time. That's what Corella is. it actually drops the metal. It can't hold on to it. It could barely move it. And when it starts pushing it and moving it,
Starting point is 00:41:18 like it's too weak, it can't pick up the metal out of the brain tissue, out of your glial cells. It can't get the oxidation in your brain out so you can get rid of your depression and your anxiety
Starting point is 00:41:29 and your Alzheimer's and your memory loss. You can't get, it doesn't work. Instead, it makes it worse. It moves it. It smears the metal. Science research doesn't know this, but even with all my work, five books out,
Starting point is 00:41:41 okay five new york times bestselling books and everything else out or whatever it what happens is that everybody's still using krella and i still see it and it's like it's like the young people are indoctrinated into krella again by i guess practitioners or somebody who just doesn't know and it's disastrous because if you really have problems it's not going to work are you are you frustrated i mean you sound like frustrated meaning like you're frustrated that you have all this information even though let's be honest you're making good money and you're doing your thing there's no doubt about that as we all should but even though are you still frustrated like you guys just pay attention well i'm frustrated because i turn down good money you do yeah but i work for
Starting point is 00:42:24 the people i work for the chronically ill okay and and i yes i need money enough to survive sure but there's no way you can call me rich but one thing for sure is i could get rich tomorrow and i just i just won't do it. Everybody thinks I own a celery farm or all the celery farms. Oh, well, see, I have this theory. You should invest in them. Well, how does it feel to be the root cause of celery shortage in the United States? How does it feel to be that person? I know, I know. That's hard. And I'm convinced you do own celery farms. I have a theory that before you released the book, you bought all the fucking celery in the United States because you knew what was going to happen. And look, I may jump in with somebody on something if it can change the world that much. I might jump in somebody
Starting point is 00:43:12 tomorrow. Be like, all right, let's create this. Okay, let's do this if it's going to save the planet. But the bottom line is, you know, I let everybody else make the money. And they should. They should. I'm on the juice, right? I'm on the juice. Salary juice. I ship my brains out every morning, which is... Oliver. It's good. I mean, it feels, it honestly feels like I am releasing toxins out of my body. It feels amazing. But I do go to Whole Foods or wherever one of my celery and half the time there's nothing left there's nothing there i mean it's really amazing to see from a product standpoint how effective you know and they're growing a ton of it i mean a ton they're growing hundreds and more than times yeah i know i'm gonna blame my rothies today
Starting point is 00:44:00 you're gonna jingle every ad that we do that's a me that's a good idea by the way i'm gonna give My girlfriend of Rothi, she's going to wear it tonight. I'm walking on plastic bottles. We're recycling all through the night. Rothy, Rothy, Rothy. Yeah, that was good. You even got in like a talking point, which is the whole reason why we love Rathies. Except that rhymed night and night.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Yeah, that's kind of amateur. Okay. They are made out of recycled plastic water bottles. They're machine washable. They're comfortable. They're very easy to wear. It's really hard to make sustainable shoes. Well, this seems to be the ultimate. I mean, 35 million water bottles from landfills. Free shipping, free returns and exchanges. No risk. No worries. No reason not to try. Was that written for you? Or did you just come up with that? No, I read that. That was good. Yeah. Thank you. Go to rothies.com slash sibling to get you. your favorite new flats
Starting point is 00:45:07 R-O-T-H-Y-S dot com slash sibling S-I-B-L-I-N-G Oh, it rhymes I didn't realize that comfort, style, and sustainability you guys these are the shoes that you've been waiting for
Starting point is 00:45:26 head to rothies.com slash sibling today do you still take clients no no so that that stopped with when the waiting list got into the millions uh five years ago oh my god millions no millions the waiting list got into and that's when i had to stop because spirit of compassion said you have to put the book out now the first book and i held it off spirit of compassion asked me to put the book out 10 years before and even earlier I just, I wanted to help out as many people. I mean, I was on call 24-7.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I worked seven days a week for six straight years without a half a day off, no holidays, nothing. That's how I was. All night long, I was woken up throughout the night with an emergency service that called me. You name it. I had relationships with dozens and dozens of doctors, the ones I've trusted and their patients,
Starting point is 00:46:23 you know, helping with their patients. Like, that was my life. I was saturated in it. And I didn't mind it. I just never slept. I never took care of myself. I still don't take care of myself today on any level practically. I drink celery juice.
Starting point is 00:46:37 I eat as good as I can, which I eat with your self tells me to do. I don't have time. Literally don't have time. It's been about everybody and their pain and suffering. That's what it's been. You wouldn't believe. So when you look at the negative stuff that's out there because they think I'm the celery entrepreneur king or they think I cornered the globe with money or something.
Starting point is 00:46:59 Or they think I'm, you know, taking from the poor and the sick, you know, it's just unbelievable where that stuff comes from. I mean, if they knew what I've been through and what I do, they would, sorry, I'm cutting you off. No, it's fine. How do you deal with the skeptics, the naysayers? What's your approach? Do you ever find that you get defensive?
Starting point is 00:47:21 Well, you know, I'm not supposed to get defensive. Yeah. But I'm a human being. Right. I'm just like, you know, there's skeptics in every field and every, God, there's skeptics about everything. But how do you handle it? The first thing I say is you haven't been that sick yet. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Okay. Yeah. Because when you are and you're sucking it out. Yeah. And you find out your precious science and research hasn't done anything for you. Yeah. And you're like on your hands and knees like a lot of people are, then, you know, then, you know, think about it and then come back to me. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:51 Because until you're there, you'll never know. And that's the thing. anybody who's ever ripped me down, ripped me apart, took cheap shots because that's what darkness does. Anybody whoever has never was sick. So what are the top things that you, like if you were to say today,
Starting point is 00:48:06 if I had a wand that I could wave, which you do actually, you have a wand you wave, but if I could have, everyone could get off these foods. What would those foods be? Okay, number one food of all time to get off of his eggs?
Starting point is 00:48:19 No. All it does. No, Anthony. All it does. And here's the, Here's the amazing thing. Here's the amazing thing. Oh, that's tough.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Eggs is a tough one, right? Yeah. Sure. With, okay, here's a thing. If you're a woman and you're battling fibroids, endometriosis, cysts, ovarian cyst, P-C-O-S, the eggs will worsen it quickly. Even though you go to the doctor, like, you need to go on lots of eggs. You go on the best functional medicine doctor. You need to go on lots of eggs.
Starting point is 00:48:48 You know, you need whoever, whoever it is, practitioner, you need to go on lots of eggs. That's what you'll hear. Here, women get told to eat eggs. It's like literally universal where women are supposed to eat eggs. Meanwhile, it worsens every single reproductive system problem there is and gets you into the hot flashes, perimenopause, right, all that early. It gets you into all these problems. It's the first food that should just be stopped.
Starting point is 00:49:13 It was great 100 years ago or more. It was a food staple that was critical. It was a good food that was actually partially good for you and couldn't hurt you. the industry abused it they took it they fed the bugs the bugs got into women you can use your imagination on how that might have happened but it got into women and then they're feeding those bugs and we got this epidemic like of chronic epic epidemic of chronic illness so that's just how it is what's another food you got the eggs another food is dairy products yeah dairy i'm sort of why including sheep's milk goat's milk keifer why why why why why why
Starting point is 00:49:52 Every now and then I'll hear, I'm on Keefer, and I'm like, because you're feeding the bugs. Okay. They eat that too. But they eat it less. They eat it less, but they still eat it. And Epstein Bar, there's over 60 varieties of Epstein Bar, mutations and variations. That's information, spirit of compassion brought to here, and no one knows it yet. Science Research just believes it's one virus.
Starting point is 00:50:14 It's not. And each variety eats something different. It eats different things. It likes eggs more than it likes dairy. It likes dairy more than it likes gluten. It likes, and gluten's the next one. Do you have, like, a little black book of all the things that you've, like, the Spirit of Compassion has told you that you just, like, make sure that you check off every time.
Starting point is 00:50:31 I got volumes of information from Spirit of Compassion. That's not even medical because I've asked personal questions on what's happening up there, how the planets work, what's going on? What about angels? I asked about what about demons. What about what people think are darkness? I've asked every question. You can possibly ask you.
Starting point is 00:50:51 Out of my boredom, out of my boredom through life, because that's... Changing gears. Ant. I'm going to call you aunt for now. That's fine. That's fine. What do you do for fun? Forget about this for a second.
Starting point is 00:51:03 Oh, yeah. What do you do for fun, man? Like, what is your... Do you drink or smoke weed or anything like that? I don't smoke weed. You play golf? Don't smoke weed. I don't drink.
Starting point is 00:51:14 I won't put alcohol in me, but I still like, you know, my friends drink. Some of my friends drink, so they'll be like, hey, they'll be, hey, hey aunt what a w a w it's got antioxidants right but yeah yeah yeah yeah but what's your fun day dude does the spirit of compassion want me to have this tequila i'm just curious yeah what do you my fun is my fun is nature but here's here's one thing that goes on right fun is nature because i could get away from everybody i could get away from everybody there's nothing worse than hundreds and hundreds of readings come through you know like i was on a place plane and with my assistant and there was all this commotion in the back and everybody's freaking
Starting point is 00:51:54 out stewardess is running around and flight attendants are running around or whatever and everybody's freaking and and i told my assistant i said it's somebody's having a seizure back there's a guy having a seizure back there because spirit told me and they're like okay few least we know what's going on my assistant was like few and eased off and then and then later it all calmed down and then we asked the flight attendant and she was like there's a guy having a seizure in the back but that's not all Every person walking by on the plane, I'm getting a read one after another. So I need peace. So what happens is, and you can't stop it.
Starting point is 00:52:26 And here's the problem. I go blind. Like right now I'm half blind because we have this many people in the room. And so because of that, Spirit's been giving me information, then I'm getting snowblindness. And so think about a big crowd. I really get screwed with a big crowd. It's really bad. But here's-
Starting point is 00:52:42 Are you saying you know information about us right now that you could- It's unavoidable. Okay, but why aren't you telling us? Well, do you ever, do you ever walk around and be like, oh, God, that guy's fuck? I did that. I did that. Listen. I'm in here like, uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:52:54 The guy passes you in the airport like, that guy's fuck. I did. You know, I grew up yanking on shirt sleeves, right? Saying, you got a brain tumor, mister. Wow. And I paid the price. I paid the price of knocking on people's shoulders and said, hey, listen, you got an aneurism and you got to get it checked out because I believe in surgeons. I believe in neurosuris.
Starting point is 00:53:16 I know a neurosuris. I know a neurosuris. surgeon, saves lives every day. And I'm like, wow, I don't know how you do it. He says, well, we use robots now. But the point is, the point is, and that's technology. But he tells me at the same time, chronic illness suffers, he says, we can't help. They just lay in their bed and they'd slowly die or they just survive or God willing. Here's the thing. Here's the thing, right? The crowds are so intense on me, right? It's why I stopped the lectures. The last one I did, I could only hand they had a cap it at 5,000 to stop people from coming in because 5,000 was all, before I
Starting point is 00:53:48 would feel like I would get a cranial seizure. So, I mean, I could pack a place now at 30,000. I was told that I was told wherever I fly in this world right now, there'd be 50,000 in a stadium right now. So I have to, so I couldn't do it. So I have a question about that, actually. I have a question because, because listen, real, real quick, do you feel a responsibility to get it right because in everything in life there is a failure rate i'm personally wrong all the time spirit's always right but even if the spirit if spirit of compassion tells you that that person has a brain tumor there has to be some some percentage of failures in that and do you account for that and there's do you feel like a responsibility to be correct look i feel like i feel like
Starting point is 00:54:40 grandfathered science and research in women's health is responsible i feel like the laws that were made without anybody's choice women's you know it's all about women's choice right well guess what choices were made for them purposely to keep them sicken down in this to where we are now and they were made back in the old days and they're in vaults and you're not going to see it on the internet no way in hell okay and those choices were made like the body attacking itself to make sure women are kept down, that there's no answers ever given to women with chronic illness. That's one. The other one is the gene theory.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Okay, all our genes went bad in the last 30 years? You mean centuries and centuries go by? And then all our genes went bad in the last 10 years. No, our genes aren't bad. It's telling a woman, you're faulty, your genes suck, you actually are unhealthy because your genes are the problem. It's inescapable. You're a bad person, meaning your physical body's a bad unit.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Discard. it's set up like this to hurt everybody and men and boys and young boys and children all that are all getting affected too it's not you know but the point is it's like set up right like that spirit of compassion is always right doesn't mean I'm always right personally if I don't go with spirit of compassion and I have my own opinion
Starting point is 00:55:57 I could be wrong about something I was sitting in my garden up in Maine and my neighbor came over and said he said I don't know how you got my wife better she couldn't walk you're the one that found out she had arsenic poisoning and nobody else did no doctor she was crippled now she's walking right and i and i was younger so i was cocky right i was a little cockier and i was in the garden and i i was pulling up onions and i was in there and i stood up and i looked at him and i said that's because i'm always right never forget it damn it and i'm never wrong never going to be wrong and it's always going to be like
Starting point is 00:56:32 that i got up i walked three feet i stepped on a hoe and it's like a race kind of whole thing and it slipped it went up smack me in the face and knocked me out and i was on the like a cartoon it's like it's like tom and jerry i got woken up okay by the neighbor standing over me like are you okay and then spirit said remember this and never forget it i'm always right and you're wrong keep that in mind whatever you do i'm right and you're wrong and i write that from there on out i realized yeah i meant you know i could walk outside this door after this podcast and step off your step wrong and laying on my face. And I was wrong on how I judge that step.
Starting point is 00:57:13 But Spirit's not wrong about this information. You ever not listen to Spirit, but like, I'm not sure you're... When I was in my teens, I was like, I'm not listening to you today. I'm going to do my own thing. And then break my wrist or something. Can you tune him out? Can you tune him out? Yeah, can't be tuned out.
Starting point is 00:57:29 No, can't. Just can't. Okay, here's a thing. Does he let you rest? How do you go out to dinner? This is back, this is a back to your question. What do I do for fun? I need to be in nature, but I never get the chance anymore.
Starting point is 00:57:41 I like being in nature where things are calm and good, but here's what happens. All I need is a jetliner way up flying over and the reeds come through. And I got to wait. So I'm sitting on a rock in nature like, son of a bitch, you get just, just get that plane. This is the only podcast ever that I've ever sworn ever in? Really? I love it. I've never sworn.
Starting point is 00:57:59 Is this because you're influencing me? Because I'm telling you, I've never sworn in anything I've ever done, not any live. We can bleep you out. We can, or cut it. Yeah, no lecture I've never swore. It doesn't matter. It's funny. It's because you're in our, in,
Starting point is 00:58:15 you guys are a bad influence, man. I can't. No, we're a good influence. So the thing is. What do you do for fun? You come to our house and you do the podcast. Well, it is fun. It is actually, it's the funest thing I've done.
Starting point is 00:58:28 I don't even know. This is so, so. That makes me happy because that was the whole reason why we wanted to do that. I had a question, actually, about, you know, I was reading. You know, some of the controversies, obviously. And there are, you know, people who are such devout followers of you that they're, like, foregoing chemotherapies or, you know, certain traditional medicines because they're so wholeheartedly into what you do.
Starting point is 00:58:54 Yeah. Do you say to those people, I'm not saying you have to give an answer necessarily to these people, but is that something you would support or tell them, look, you need to do what you have to do as far as, you know, staying alive you know um modern medicine for cancer so forth like chemotherapy and everything is it's come a long way in the old days they used to they i mean it was so it was so wretched you know i mean you didn't stand a chance in the old days you didn't the chemotherapy in the old days just annihilated you've learned to alter the chemistry back it down small dosages took forever for those protocols to change you know and so i'm not anti any of that would what i'm Amantai is chemotherapy for something they know nothing about, and that's what they're doing now, too.
Starting point is 00:59:47 So you're using chemotherapy for all these autoimmune disorders, says Astros, because you can't kill the virus that's creating the autoimmune disorder, and the chemotherapy just weakens the immune system so the virus can get stronger. So I'm a little put off by that one. Back in the old days. Don't they give chemo for MS? they give chemo now for i mean they're just they're just they're tacking lime disease i mean they're just all of it they're just tacking it in they're tacking it on and let's learn about why people are really sick before we just start throwing like darts that that heavy and the swords you know using swords that heavy and um the old days chemotherapy was just it was like the lime disease in
Starting point is 01:00:25 the old days where antibiotics until the person is literally crippled or or gone and and um it wasn't until cats claw came onto the scene because the spirit of compassion back 30 years years ago when, you know, I was teaching doctors how to use cats claw for the Lyme patients that changed that so that the antibiotics drop. That's because of me. Am I going to get credit? Never. And do I want it? No. But I wish spirit would get. I wish spirit would get kind of some credit. Spirit, though, of compassion. The problem is it's not about credit. It's about making sure the information stays pure and that they know where it's sources so they can keep on getting more information to heal them. It's not about credit. It's just about that. But the
Starting point is 01:01:05 The bottom line is, so the chemotherapy, sure, like chemotherapy now is always coupled with alternative medicine now. You get most cancer doctors are like, yes, take your this oil, take your that, take your curcumin, take your, take, and they're saying that, that's amazing. That's a big change. Yeah. And that's why people are really getting a lot of help from it where they, most everybody will go the chemotherapy route because they're scared and their family pushes them into it.
Starting point is 01:01:32 Literally. So now, though, they have a show. because their doctors allowing them to go to a natural path too or a functional doctor that says you need to be on coenzyme Q10 ALA you need to be on all these other things and so that's that's a miracle right that's a miracle and the chemotherapies have changed and altered now where they're not so harsh they've they've lowered dosages and then they've done cocktails that that they're using to try to explore to see if it affects cancer I'm not against it I'm not against somebody's decision to go chemotherapy.
Starting point is 01:02:06 I, I, and radiation, I am against radiation therapy, um, for cancer, unless it's just for pain, pain management to get somebody off of morphine, you know, that's when I'm, that's what I'm supportive of radiation, direct current radiation for when you're literally on morphine. I mean, you got like a tumor, you're suffering, you're in agony. I mean, I've known so many people in agony. That's when I'm okay with that. But radiation on a whole, in general, when someone doesn't have that going on, totally anti that, 100%.
Starting point is 01:02:37 Do you also believe food, what we eat, how we eat is a direct reflection of our mental state? Absolutely. I talk about it in life-changing foods. My book, a plug. My life-changing foods book. Life-changing foods. Life-changing foods, reading it tonight, actually. Life-changing foods, I talk about how these foods also have powers that help our emotional state. Absolutely. The wild blueberries, the wild blueberries of Maine, okay? Why Maine? They're so adaptive. It seems like you're biased.
Starting point is 01:03:08 They're so adapting to it. I don't know. I don't know. What if I got wild blueberries in like Vermont? The wild blueberry, it's not cultivated, right? It's wild, so it survived thousands of years of abuse from the weather in different conditions. I mean, coming out of the ice age, those wild blueberries.
Starting point is 01:03:25 They're just resilient. You can burn. Maine blueberries. You can burn the wild blueberry field down. My soul. That should be something, wild blueberry productions. Wild blue berries down to the ground, like all of it, until it's ash, and it'll come up the next year. You can burn other things.
Starting point is 01:03:46 They're not coming up. That sounds pretty. I love it. The wild blueberry has the power to help somebody rise out of the ashes. I'll tell you what. Like a Phoenix, because it does that itself, too, right? It has so much power to it. And so when you eat those, you're getting 10,000 years or more of this power that's that, that adaptogenic ability because that's the true adaptogenic food on the planet.
Starting point is 01:04:11 It's that one. That's the only one that could survive anything. Well, if you ever have a production company, it should be wild blueberry productions. Just, you know, you can have that one. Oh, you know what's so crazy? What about morel mushrooms? Do you know anything about those? Yeah, people like to eat them, right?
Starting point is 01:04:25 Yeah. What about magic mushrooms? Yeah, I mean, mushroom. man. Psychedelic. No, but I mean, but I mean, what about ayahuasca? Like, what about these sort of ancient practice, natural
Starting point is 01:04:39 psychedelic practices? Okay, like, ayahuasca falls back into the recreational kind of thing. It falls back into, like, how effed up do you want your head and can you survive it and get a spiritual outcome at the end of it? You know what I mean? It's like, it falls into the category
Starting point is 01:04:55 of, you know, how do you tell a stoner to say, we're like, hey man you're pushing the weed too hard you need to take a break you know you can't even judge that the stoner knows best he's been doing it all these years and so forth knows what the you know capacity is knows how much weed I guess
Starting point is 01:05:10 Anthony why are you looking at me you know why are you pointing at me look at me look at me spirit of compassion is coming so big time right you're it's a personal it's a personal it's a personal choice it's one of those things a personal choice
Starting point is 01:05:29 My brain went to celery juice, honestly. Before you do ayahuasca. No, not ayahuasca, but with psilocybin, with mushrooms. You know, first of all, I've read, you know, this book that Michael Pollan wrote, which is really a great book. And it talks about sort of the history of psilocybin. Basically, now there's been a new research studies and research that John Hopkins is doing on psilocybin that the medical, that the medical community is actually performing and doing
Starting point is 01:05:58 and it has funding and it brought me back to the celery experience where they're not even really giving that as much of a chance as the it's the most powerful medicine of our time on planet earth right now is celery juice the most powerful medicine and long after i'm dead and gone you guys you know i love it dude like i really do you believe me that stuff will never die the whole planet will be doing it it'll be in the billions because it is the most powerful medicine. It stood the test of time of criticism. It stood the test of time of everything because it's the only thing that works. Here's how it works. Here's how it works. A trend because it becomes a trend because money's behind it. I don't care what it is. Cambocha tea. Just throw it at me. What trend is
Starting point is 01:06:47 out there, right? You can think of some. I can think of a whole. So the keto diet or, like food wise? Any trend. Any trend. Any trend. Because you're right. The, the 90s. The 90s. The 90s. The In the 90s fashion trend, which is horrible right now. There's money. There's money and coffee, everything. There's money behind it, right? That's what it is. Apple cider vinegar is money behind.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Everything, collagen. Colgeneer. Tons of money behind collagen. Tons of money behind collagen. It becomes a trend, not because it works. Becomes a trend because it's backed. It's celery juice. It's not backed. It's in everybody's way.
Starting point is 01:07:22 It pisses everybody off. It's not profitable. It gets everybody angry who's trying to sell something. But yet it's taking. over the world because it's the only damn thing that's really worked, really worked. You got to couple it with other things. I love it. I really do.
Starting point is 01:07:36 I don't know why because I'm relatively healthy, but I just feel clean. I don't know because people said, I did it for like six weeks and I'm trying to get back on it. But, you know, it's like I'm waiting for the feeling, you know, of like, okay, am I going to change, is something going to change inside of me? And I didn't feel like, A, because I didn't have, I didn't have any psoriasis or I didn't have any sort of acne or anything like that. but it was, I just felt clean. I felt like gutted in a weird way. I've had a thing that's happened to me throughout this, um, a whole podcast where I've been feeling little parts of my body the whole time.
Starting point is 01:08:11 Like a psychosomatic. Yeah. Like I'll have like, I'm like, oh, that ringing in the ear. Like, am I having a ringing in the ear? Like I had like, oh, I feel a little tingle in my. Well, here's the thing. Aunt, aunt, aunt, if there was something wrong with any of us, Would you say it?
Starting point is 01:08:27 That was one of my questions. It's just that when you're dealing with our hardcore medical stuff, it's like, damn, there's this iron horse between it all. You know, where it's like you can't knock that iron horse down because there's these instilled belief systems in people with medical aspects of it that, man, you can't break that down if you want it to. And I don't have the time to, like, investigate with spirit of compassion.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Every mental thought someone's thinking, you know, of like, will they be able to handle it? will they not? I mean, I can, but I don't have that on the fly. It's me because I got to be like, okay, where are we going next? What do I got to do? What's my assistant? You know, got me playing, you know? But yeah, it comes through all the time. I mean, when I was younger, it's like I told you, I would tap on shoulders and really pee people off. Some people would be so thankful. And all of a sudden, I'd have a client, you know, or whatever, when I was younger, but they were, yeah. So, no. You're saying basically, like, you don't, you only really do that when it's something that
Starting point is 01:09:24 you're focused on doing like if you you've never had that as an adult like go to someone and be like I need to tell this person you know if I could if I if I could go into a restaurant or go into Whole Foods which I can't because I'll be mobbed and especially a whole food well you know what it is that's not going to Whole Foods I got you know what's funny is that's so funny it's so true the Whole Foods they'll just kill me they're like the celery juice guys And what happens is that, you know, it's like my assistants always laugh at me, you know, they're like, first of all, because you go half blind anyway, you end up, like, kind of bumping into things after too many readings. And so what's funny is they don't let me out the front door of the house because if I go wandering down the road, people are going to see me beep the horn. It happened one time where I had to go outside in front of the house and, you know, or I'd be in front of an office building because I went to go visit somebody.
Starting point is 01:10:18 And there's a lot of the people are beeping and yelling, like, celery, or the beep the horn in it. It would be like, I was putting out the garbage. I was putting out the garbage and someone just said, I just saw you live on Insta. And then it was just like, it's always like that. And the thing is, is if I could go into Whole Foods again, like I could 10 years ago. And I wasn't going to get mobbed.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Then, you know, yeah, the readings, right? Well, the readings come through, matter what, they could be coming through. And then it might be that one person where I might be like, you know what, you know, let's talk about this. on the road or let's talk about this here's how you contact my assistant or something you know my sister-in-law just asked do you ever ask spirit why you yeah absolutely all the time spirit told me there was something inside of me was the right recipe i it could be a little bit of crazy maybe it's just
Starting point is 01:11:09 you're crazy enough or a lot maybe it's a little bit okay yeah no no no but but the fact that you can even say that is is amazing yeah you know because that that just adds so much more validity and credibility to everything that you do you can say yeah maybe it's a little bit fucking crazy i don't know or maybe you had you not the spirit of compassion but you had the perfect amount of crazy you know my friends are always like hey listen hey listen you know can you ask spirit this and i'm like oh it's this and they go no can you ask spirit that if if this is this and this i go no it's this um it's not that i don't trust you anthony it's all i've known you forever but can you just ask spirit okay get spirit on the line here you know what I mean
Starting point is 01:11:51 just because you know so much and you've learned so much what I'm saying me I love what you're saying no spirit no spirit's happy with way okay good I need a spirit in my life that I could just be like I don't know spirit Kate Kate just call me you know my number just call me
Starting point is 01:12:09 you got the best sibling in the world you guys call me well dude thank you so much bro like this was so much fun we were looking forward to this for a long time when we were when we started this whole podcast idea you were one of the first who outside of the sort of the celebrity sibling world we're like we have to get medical medium and at that point i didn't even know your name i just thought you were medical media i was like that's a strange name yeah but it turns out you have a name anthony and i call you aunt now
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