Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - The Siblings Behind the Best Scripts in Hollywood

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

Ike and Jon Barinholtz are the brotherly brains behind several of your favorite shows, including Kate's 'Running Point!' The brothers talk about growing up in a funny family and how certain SNL alumni played a part in their road to success. How did they know Hollywood was waiting for their brand of comedy when they were just a couple of cubs from Chicago?  Plus, prepare to laugh out loud when the Barinholtz brothers take us behind-the-scenes for an unscripted take on scripted entertainment!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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we've actually won in Italy a couple of years ago. Anyway, it just made our trip feel extra special. So if you're heading out this month, consider hosting your home on Airbnb with the co-host feature you can hire someone local to help manage everything. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos.

Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The Moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us father and daughter for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos

on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? Answer, a new podcast called Wisecrack, where a comedian finds himself at the center of a chilling true crime story. Does anyone know what show they've come to see? It's a story. It's about the scariest night of my life.

This is Wisecrack, available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Introducing IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like in the right hands. You're just not. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling reveree. No, no. Sibling reverie. Don't do that with your mouth.

Sibling Reavory. That's good. Hi, babies. What's up? Are you writing the show right now? Is this what? Yes, sir, yes, sir.

Yeah, writing room. I literally texted me the other day that he wrote something that's so funny I'm not going to be able to get through it. I know there's a scene that we're not going to be able to complete because it's like you and Scott McArthur and plastic surgery. It's not going to work.

Oh, no. But it's nice to cry. Oh, my God. I can't wait. Let me guess. Kate tells Scotty that he has to have under eye back. surgery because there's that's that's a thing for me i i remember i went to go see my esthetician because i got some baggage and i remember saying to him like is there anything i

could kind of do like to kind of get rid of these and like without flinching he goes plastic surgery and i was like yeah you don't have like a tinted cream or something bro oh you guys this is so fun law we were supposed to do this I think like right around COVID. Yes, a thousand years ago. And we didn't. But now look where we've come. Look what's happening.

John, where are you right now? John, I don't know anything about you. Oh, this would be fun then. Johnny, they didn't know you had a brother. I had a brother. They had no idea. I was just like, I never mentioned you. Yeah, yeah.

How you know. What's that little fluffy dog that's popping up right under your right on? Guys. Yeah, come on. I remember this dog. I remember this dog. Yeah. Oh, it's a baby. But I cut all his hair off. He looks better though now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I realize today, because I didn't do it. This is like my natural hair. Let's just take a good look at it because you'll never see it again. I didn't mention. I didn't, I didn't mention that when you never see it in. Kate, when you first came on, we're doing our little beginning thing. Like, I was like, is this? What's happening? I, John, I feel like I know you. I met you before, right? I mean, I must. I don't know. I don't know if we have.

I don't know. I don't know. I feel like I know. I feel like I know you. I don't know how. I don't know. John doesn't leave telling you. No, I hang out, telling you. I hang out my wife's office.

That's it. She doesn't want him there. She's trying to get him to leave, but he's like, no, I'll just hang out here today, honey. Thanks. You guys, where did it? So you grew up in Chicago. And how many years apart are you?

We're six. Yeah. Wow. Which is like, that's like a, that's a pretty big gap. That's healthy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It was like that thing where it's like,

I remember when he was born. And like the first like three, four years, it was like, oh, we're like best friends and we're going on adventures. And then like at some point, like I'm like 11 or 12. And I'm like, I need. need to see tits. Yeah. I can't be dealing

with this baby shit. And I've had tits. Right. But like you know what I mean? Like the six years, there's a point where you're like, oh man, like, I obviously like love my brother. But like you're like I need to like,

I'm a teenager now and I'm blah. I'm going to go with my friends. I don't want to sit here. Yeah. Where there's like not like infringing on each other's fringe groups. And then like we as you know, we got older. I remember when I was like, you know,

20 or so and Johnny's a teenager. then it's like you become friends again when you become like best friends again when you have a gap where like when one of you is going through puberty the other one's still playing with toys and then the switch happens and it's pretty nice.

Did you go to college? I went to Boston University for one year and they were like you have to leave you can't be here anymore. I was like, that's fine with me. And then did you go home or did you start your life? Yeah, I went back home.

And I knew I wanted to act, but I didn't know, like, how to apply that at all, you know. And then I saw this improv show, the Improv Olympics, I think 10th anniversary show. And I saw, like, Amy Poehler and Tim Meadows was so, so, so funny, Chris Farley. And I was like, oh, you want to do this. So I signed up for it. I remember Johnny was like, John, you were like 13 or 12 or something, probably when I started. And so he would come to see. see the shows and stuff.

And I remember, like, Johnny was a much better student than me. He was much more focused, just a better person, like college athlete and shit. And he went to college and went to four years. It was like a, you know, captain of the running team and all that shit. And I was like, oh, thank God. Because it wasn't going great for me at that time. I was like, oh, this is so nice. Like, you know what I mean?

He was going to have a nice, stable career or something. And then he was like, I remember him? I mean, like, he's like, yeah, I really want to do improv and dags. And I was like, oh, my poor, my poor, my parents, man. Who, by the way, is a lawyer. I mean, your dad, your dad is a lawyer. Yeah. And what does your mom do?

Was she, did she work? Mom, when we were little, she worked. And then as we got a little older, she was, like, hardcore, like, head of the PTA, like, did all the fundraising for, you know, our schools and stuff. Um, and so, you know, we're very, very close with them. And they're very, they're like too supportive of us. You know what I mean? Like it's a bad showbistory.

Most showbistores were like, my parents, I told them I want to act. My dad beat their shit out of me. I never spoke to him again. And now I have this Oscar. And we're just like, our parents are like, oh, this is great. You guys should do this. They were theater majors at Ohio State. So they were like very cool.

Yeah. They were. Yeah. You're like, your dad, your dad, who plays Bernie, our lawyer and was on the jury or what was it at the juror jury jury duty jury duty yeah and and and in studio yes he's got a little uh little cameo is a projectionist in an episode he's listen he got casted jury duty and he him and my mom moved to l-a and now he is a full-time l-a-based actor when he moved out he there is a string of like more than both of us for like a period of like six months when he first moved out here

he like he booked really three things right away well you were running a show so that's not the same but yeah but no but it was i remember like when jury duty came out oh my god he he told me goes you know uh he goes one of my cast members in jury duty told me that i'm the biggest star of all and i go what the fuck are you talking about what does that what does that mean he goes the because they they count it they keep track of it and I'm like dude what what do you mean and I finally realized he meant the call the call the star meter the IMDB star meter and I was like do you mean the IMDB star meter he goes yes they told me I'm on there and I was like oh he goes can you can you show me how this works and I was like I was like I was like I don't know how

like accurate this is don't i was basically one to say i'm like don't be upset if you're number nine million like it's fine and we looked on there and he was considerably higher than john and myself right it was very high we're like oh oh and then i was like yeah well that shit it's bullshit anyways i mean it's like whatever there's like dead people on there who are high whatever I mean, does your, does your dad even have to audition anymore? Is he just like, he's like, he's like, he tells his age, and he's like, we know audition. No, Ollie, he's still fucking auditioning because he'll come over sometimes when I'm like cooking for the family. Everyone's coming over and I got the potatoes and this.

And he'll be like, whenever you have a few minutes, if you could put me on tape in the backyard for Mike Scher's new show, that would be really helpful. And I'm like, okay. Oh, right, fine. Ollie, Ike, John knows this, but the world, I don't know if the world knows this, but Ike is a massive foodie and loves, loves, loves to cook. Oh, good. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I love to cook.

I have two traggers, a green egg, and a San Marry a grill. Like, I like that, like that's... You could open your own barbecue chicken. Pretty much. I mean, you know, this is, I might have to, because this fucking business is pretty lean for me, right? But I made some ribs last night That were fucking amazing

Are you straight smoking them Or is it like a combination smoke Finish on the grill smoke Oven what are you doing? I do this Tammy saw This tamarin sauce on That I do that I grill the ribs Yeah yeah yeah yeah

Make that homemade but this was just like You know it was individuals I cut them up So I could season them really well And I did like three racks You know it was like two hours hours, then cover it with, you know, butter and brown sugar and all that. And a half hour to tack it up, yeah.

And this is strictly kosher? Fully kosher. The butter on the ribs, got it. Yeah, okay, cool. Fully kosher. John and I are both glott kosher. Are you like a fine dine cook, or do you like, what's your deal? I love, like, John came over with his kids this weekend for Mother's Day, and I made

what I make you? I mean, chicken cutlets? Yeah. These are very nice chicken cutlets. Like, I'm very, like, I take a lot of it. Like, it's like a proprietary bread mixture, you know, breadcrum. It's like a whole thing. And I mean, like, mashed potatoes and like... I would say you're like, you cook like rustic. Yes. Very, very like, it's less like,

less like, you know, it's not like... Yeah, he's not getting like... Yeah, he's not getting, like, the tweezers out with, like, edible fars. And he'll, like, pick up food, just, like, throw it on the grill. Yeah. Okay, try this. Try this.

September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home.

I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature,

you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country.

Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public.

Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape-recorded statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen Slimmer. She just started going off on me and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her.

On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slimmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades, raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now.

Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the on. iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed. I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin.

So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care.

Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

So wait, you guys, growing up, you grew up in Chicago. Were you in the suburbs? No, we're like in the city, like right near Wrigley Field, kind of. Really? Mm-hmm. And dad was active lawyer. What kind of lawyer? personal injury

and then he did some defense work for Metra and a vagina he was a vagina lawyer he was a vagina lawyer he only represented vaginas

the bus ads were very embarrassing from my family but it paid for our education so we're proud of we're proud of every last one of those vaginas

but yeah no he was a lawyer and was very like I think he loved being a lawyer I do and we would go to his office a lot. We worked there over the summers and stuff. And, like, John, John, you worked there more than me, I think, right? You worked there

and you dealt with a lot more of his clients, which... I dealt with a lot of clients. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, how old are your guys? Do you guys all have both of kids? Yes. I have three girls. Right. Three girls. How old are the girls? Seven, nine, and twelve. And we... Five, and I have a three-year-old boy. Okay. We've blown it with the oldest one. Like, we let her watch. Like, she was. Like, she was. watched some of White Lotus with us, you know, which at one point, like, at one point, I paused as like, go to bed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, fun fact, this season of White Lotus, uh, the inspiration for Patrick Schwarzenegger and his brother was me and John. No one knows this. No one, no, we're, we're telling you guys, no one has heard this yet, but this is an exclusive. Oh, my God. We told White about our relationship.

Thank you for giving this. I mean, imagine, you know, but you're Schwarzenegger and you get the job and he was crying. It's a whole thing. It's amazing. You have no idea what's coming up. How different did you grow up in Chicago than the MacArthur boys? I mean, honestly, in a way incredibly parallel because they grew up very close to us. Like Bruce lived over.

Yeah, Bruce lived at 30. Just for context for listeners, Scotty McArthur's, who plays net. on Running Point, and Ike, our showrunner, writer, grew up together. Yes, and his older brother, Hayes is one of my best friends. Yes. So, like, they grew up very close to us. We went to the same schools for a long time. You know, we weren't, like, a wealthy family.

We were fine. We didn't have, like... Our circles were the same. Our parents' social circles were different, I would say. Yeah. Like, their parents' social circles were, like, So were you friends with the MacArthur as kids? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, I didn't know that. Oh, yeah, no, I met Hayes. We were at sports camp on the bus in, like, oh, God, like sixth grade, maybe, fifth grade. And Hayes always tells the story. He'll tell this to, like, waiters when we're at dinner. Like, we pulled up at a red light, and there was, like, a couple of, like, older teenage girls. And, like, I opened the window, and I was like, you know, They went, what's that baby?

And one of them went like, and like put it on her ass. And Hayes was like, came over, was like, that was awesome. And like, we became friends after that. And even though he ended up going to a different school and Scotty and that they went to boarding schools. Yeah. We just kept in touch. And then when I moved to L.A., Hayes was living here. And then Scotty moved and then Johnny moved.

So it's really kind of sweet. We have like these. And now these Idaho Hayes. he's Idaho Hayes he literally sent me a video the other day of like a mountain lion like in his backyard he's like oh oh and I was like be careful

I know and I was trying to get everyone to move he's like what are you guys doing in fucking LA I know like I would live here sir my family lives here where you have a house here wait I got one thing because you said the title of your show I say the title of the show that Kate's in I just want to hear you say

Running Point. Okay. You said it correctly. It's your show. Everyone says running point, but it's running point. Running point, yeah. But everyone says in the cast, because we had Brenda on as well, and she's like, running point.

I'm like, wait, hold on, it's running point. It's one of those things where I remember being in the room and we were deciding between different options. And I was just like, guys, running point is a phrase that everyone knows. It works on two levels. You could go to fucking like American Samoa and talk to like one of the natives there. And they'll be like, oh, yeah, running point. And there's been multiple people that are like, what does it mean?

Or they'll be like, I love point blank. And I'm like, what? I love the running man. And I'm like, running point. God damn it. Did you have other titles that were in the mix? Yep. Yeah, we had one that I.

I loved, like, I think it was like the front office, like, that was one. And then I can't even remember. There was a few. Well, it was the waves. Oh, yeah, there was one like, the waves. There was one we were like, do we just call it the waves? Or then there was, yeah, front. There was also one of the Gordons of L.A. at one point, I remember we were talking about it,

but then we thought that sound, it sounded too much like a bra, a Bravo show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like the Vanderpump. Yeah, exactly. yeah yeah yeah uh so so yeah but running point just always felt like it hit the zone and did you guys make any any play to license NBA or is it just an impossibility no no in fact when we first came aboard i think that the the the thinking was well this will be an NBA partnership situation and we obviously love the NBA and with that you get a lot of perks right you get like

you get the real logos, the uniforms and all that stuff. But with that also comes a lot of legal stuff. Like everything, everything has to be cleared. You can't disparage the NBA. Yeah, and then it also, like, strangely

messes up the time space continuum because, like, you know what I mean? If we were the Lakers, we wouldn't have, like, LeBron and Austin Reeves available to shoot, so we would have, like, another Ross. So it would mess. up the universe so we really were hopeful that it would be we were able to create our and it's fun too

whenever we're like are writing a story and we're like oh oh they're playing the they're playing the team from memphis oh the memphis hot chickens you know what i know whatever we've literally created a whole you know yeah a new league we could do we could do 50 spinoffs 50 states 50 cities different families that own it amazing that would be fun i like that idea pretty good well the four of us it now because we set it on this podcast. Legally bulletproof. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season.

It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host.

I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country.

Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might live. lose the faith. But there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast

Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a tape recorder statement. The person being interviewed is Krista Gail Pike. This is in regards to the death of a Colleen Slimmer. She started going off on me and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista. We let people languish in prison for decades,

raising questions about who we consider fundamentally unrestorable. How does someone prove that they deserve to live? We are starting the recording now. Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike. Listen to Unrestorable Season 2, Proof of Life, on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. My name is Ed. Everyone say hello, Ed.

I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin. So, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.

And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now.

We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF disrupted, the kind body story. a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients.

You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands. And then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So when did you guys get like the sort of bug, like the creative, artsy bug? Like I'm going to write.

I want to make people laugh. I want to be in front of the camera. or on stage. John, what do you think? Well, you did it. You came back. We always, like, did, like, performing in front of our parents.

Right. But, like, when I came back from college, like he said, he did I-O. And so he, you jumped into it, like, then. So I was in seventh grade when you jumped into it. I mean, we were, when we were young, though, we would do, like, little, like, skits on the radio. And, like, you know what I mean?

We love comedy. Yeah, we have tapes of an old radio show between us. Yeah. I think we have a tape where we do. We're like, we're like doing a radio show. One of us, this is true, I think one of them shit our pants. I think you shouldn't, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, two different stories. That's, we're, we're performing La Bamba on tennis records.

I wasn't, I wasn't, I wasn't thinking that was where the story was in Chicago. Yeah, we were performing La Bamba on tennis rackets. I remember what the movie was hot guys. The movie was just thought it was hot. La Bamba was very big. Oh, La Bamba. Hot, hot, hot. And we were playing on, like, racquetball rackets.

And I remember wanting to finish the song, and we were very close at the end. And I, like, the second I finished, I shit my pants, I shit my pants. That is going to happen. When you grow up in Chicago, yeah, yeah. People from Chicago shit their pants more disproportionately than people in other parts. Yeah. They shit his pants before. I would have.

no doubt no doubt in my mind for sure I think everyone's shit their pants I don't think Kate has but other than that I think well it's a story

I won't know a story that I will not tell I remember I remember being in college and knowing college for archaeology and the department like folded when I went out there

and I took a creative writing class and loved it. And I remember calling Ike after a race, my sophomore year. I ran in college. And I remember saying to him like, hey, I'm going to go back to Chicago. I know what I want to do. And he talked me out of it. And I was really glad he did. I was like, I'm just going to go now. There's no point in finishing. Just finish it off. There's two years left. Just get it done.

And I did that. And very happy I did it. It sent me on like a good timeline. I also wasn't ready to come out yet. Also, just to be clear, when I did that, I was, like, 23, I was living in L.A. I was a bus boy. It was the worst time in my life, kind of, because it was like, I couldn't get an audition for a fucking Quiznos commercial. You know what I mean? Like, it was horrible. And I loved my brother.

And I was like, I don't want you to go through what I'm going through because it's not going to work. It's not going to work. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I was very happy. I stayed in and, like, did it. the right way and, like, went back to Chicago and did four years there and came out to LA. I just knew I knew I was going to do it. And then by the time

he was ready, he went through the Chicago thing. He had, you know, done some training stuff and Steppenwolf and stuff. At that point, I was on a TV show. I was like, oh, bro, come out here, man. It's great. Right. It's so easy. It's got what you got it. Then he moved out here and then my TV show ended and I had three years where no one would hire me and I was like, this town sucks. It's over in Johnson Cray.

really glad I'm here now. Did you guys Mota? Thank you. Does you guys live together? No. Ike was already with his wife by the time I moved out here. Oh, wow. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So we never lived together, but we

you know, it's, as you guys know, there's nothing like having your sibling in the city you live in, man. It's like, it changes everything. It makes you feel, it makes you feel so much more at home. You know, this is not our, it wasn't at my home. And now that he's here, especially now that my

family's here. It's like, oh, yeah, LA's my home. Did you meet your wife in L.A.? I met my wife in a very romantic little town in western Nevada called Las Vegas. Yeah. We met at the hard rock casino. Are you serious? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Literally. I'm telling you, we met in 2005 during the World Series and I was with like my fantasy football league and she was with like a Bachelorette party. and I remember talking to her and I was like oh what are you do tonight the White Sox are playing

She's like I'm a huge White Sox fan I'm like so am I And we watched the White Sox game And like you know The Pope was there And then like you know Whatever things happened And then she moved back to New York

And I was still in L.A So I would go to I would fly to New York Like every other weekend To go see her for like months And then I moved to New York And then she moved to L.A. Oh that's cool

So you met in Vegas. Oh, yeah. Had a fucking crazy fun Vegas deal. Yes. I love Vegas. I really like when I get there, I have like a crazy energy where I like I just got. Oh, God. You in Vegas is like a disaster.

Oh, it's so, it's so much fun. It's dangerous, man. It's very dangerous. Our grandfather, our grandfather lost thing in Vegas. Really? Oh, everything. Yeah. He was a very serious.

successful. He was like one of the first used car salesmen because cars were still new when he went to business. So like he like owned Chicago like the car scene. He owned a bunch of Chrysler dealerships. Very successful. And he like he lost like like everything. Every thing. Yeah. He was like a big gambler. But he was so cool. Like I remember like my dad and I went first time I went to Vegas. We went to one of the hotels he used to stay at. And he was. had been dead for 20 years and when my dad checked him the guy behind the desk told the manager the manager came over shook my dad's hand was like oh we're going to hook you guys up it was like yeah it was really really cool yeah it was a really cool guy we made more than you're going to hook you

up wow wait i want to see a picture right will you send me a picture of your grandpa i have one that is i want to see what he looks like he looked he looked like tom sizmore and uh saving private Ryan. There he is. Oh, my God. Did he ever? Handsome, dude. Oh, my God. Wait, I have to see. Wow. Hold on. Here, I can't. Handsome, man. Yeah. He was a son.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah, very, very cool. We'll go out to. Very cool. Took a bullet. Took a bullet at Normandy. Did he really? Yeah. He was like, like, D-Day plus like eight. He was like wave five or something, but Yeah, it took one, like, up through the foot. Yeah.

Very, very cool guy. Four heart attacks, like the most Chicago guy ever. How awesome. Yeah, he was cool. He was cool. And his wife, our grandmother, God bless her, still with us, you guys. She's 1001. Wow.

Yes. Yeah, we just went to go visit her. Like, I brought two of my girls to go see her a couple months ago. And it's so funny, I now want to live a very long life because I've learned that when you get to a certain age, all you have to do all day is watch TV. Yeah. And that is my fucking dream. That's your goal. I'm not even playing with you guys.

I want to like wake up, have a little breakfast and then just go to the couch and just watch TV all day. That is like my goal. Are you able to watch TV? TV, given how busy you are, or you can't, or do you? Every night, I always try, if I'm home not too late,

like 10 minutes of basketball, random basketball game. Yeah, yeah. And then one show, one half hour show. Yeah. Like, right now, are you guys watching the rehearsal? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's...

Oh, I haven't started it. Nathan Fielder. Oh, my God. He's genius that, dude. He's genius. And he, what he's doing this season is so fascinating and funny. And so it's like a long con, basically. It's a long con slash social experiment. But it's a combination of real people and actors.

So it's not like, it's not like, it's like a prank. You know what I mean? It's like, no, no, no, no. It's more like the amount of resources throwing to nothingness is the, it's one of the funniest. It's one of the funniest. The episode, episode three, I think. Not to give it away, but like when the baby thing happens. It's the funniest thing I've seen like in a while.

So I do like to watch a little bit. Have you guys worked together? Yeah. We have. He played, I directed and started a movie. And he played my brother in it. This was six years ago, seven years ago. Yeah, I did like, he had me on for like a little bit in Mindy.

With Scotty, actually. Yeah, yeah. John and Scotty were. We're on Mini Project together with Dave and I. We did a show with the great Katie Rich on Netflix. Yeah, we did an animated show for Netflix with Katie and Dave Stass and on some friends. So we've been in a writer's room together. And I don't think we could get too deep into it right now because we're still shooting it.

But we have a new thing that we're working on with our dad that we've been kind of working on for the last few months, which has been like so much fun and so great. But again, like, you have to allow more patience when you're working with a parent. Well, I was about to ask that. Like, what's the working dynamic? What about your brothers? Yeah, but like, you know, what about directing John?

John, was you directed by Ike? I mean, was you like, shut the fuck up. Oh, in the movie, no, no. It's like, I think, like, again, like, like full trust in his instincts and everything. So, like, yeah, yeah. And this thing, we directed each other, and we both directed our dad in it. And there's definitely more patience between us.

We also have the exact same sensibility. And there's that weird sibling thing where, like, he can come up and be like, hey, do that thing where you go, yeah, you know, I'll do it, blah, blah, bye. You know, it's like that, not even shortham, no hand. Yeah. Dad is trickier because, A, he's our dad. But also, he's like a 73-year-old man. So, like, we'll be on a Zoom, you know, with, like, 18 people and, like, just like a production meeting and, like, his audio will go out for, like, half a second.

And John will be in the middle of talking about something. And my dad would go, okay, I can't hear. I can't hear anything. Can you hear me? Oh, hold on. It's working. It's working. It's working now.

We're like, calling outvers, like, you don't have to be on the call. Like, like, just let me, I have to get through this stuff. I have to get through this. Oh, my God. immediately a teenager i mean you guys should be documenting that that's the best you know just that's funny too just the behind the scenes of you too and the dad trying to make a show together is fucking funny he's like he really he's very charmed and he's so happy and he's the sweetest man ever there's this moment in running point where um sorry where we were shooting where you know

he comes in and the whole thing was like that he's you know can be kind of handsy and uh and i said to ike i'm like he should kiss me on the lips and yeah i told my dad i go hey on this next take kiss kate on the lips he goes i can't do that i can't i cannot do that they got like flush and really nervous and i was like listen hey hey calm down it's her idea he goes really Oh, oh, oh, I remember our wonderful sweet late Uncle Harold, wonderful man. He had big wet lips. He had big wet lips. And I remember he came to L.A. and took Dave and I, Dave Stass, the night of dinner.

And at the end of dinner, he gave me a hug and a kiss. And he turns to Dave, who he had just met and goes, goodbye, honey, and gave Dave Stassan a big kid. And Dave says we did it up, bye. Like, Dave is like a hardcore gentile, like, emotion. Oh, so funny. And this old Jewish man's like, come here. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Nothing drunk older people love more than saying goodbye. Goodbye, everyone. Like photographers walking away. Goodbye. I feel like I'm that older person now. Yes. We're getting there. I'm definitely that person.

You guys, I am, I am fucking old. I have bursitis in my shoulder. You do it. What is that? It's like you have like bursa that are like little kind of sacks around. They're little ball sacks kind of. You got two balls. Basically imagine here I just got a bunch of testicles.

And it's like when they get inflamed basically. It happens to old people. It's a sports injury, right? Yeah, I guess I'm an athlete. Oh, fuck. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home.

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This is in regards to the death of a Colleen Slimmer. She just started going off on me and I hit her. I just hit her and hit her and hit her and hit her. On a cold January day in 1995, 18-year-old Krista Pike killed 19-year-old Colleen's Slemmer in the woods of Knoxville, Tennessee. Since her conviction, Krista has been sitting on death row. The state has asked for an execution date for Krista.

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I'm from a very rural background myself. My dad is a farmer, and my mom is a cousin, so, like, it's not like... What do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club? I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke, but that really was my reality nine years ago. I just normally do straight stand-up, but this is a bit different. On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear. On 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family. And then he came to my house. So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?

A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage. Available now. Listen to Wisecrack on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We were getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing.

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after every after every interview where I'll let you ask yeah but before before before I just want to talk about the studio really quickly and like you I was just talking about you today you like

it's kind of happening you kind of fucking did it you know what I mean like you're having a real moment here just shut up for a second I'm just telling you what's happening like you I think are going to be able to like truly carry movies I think that this is going to be, it's happening.

I'm the luckiest person in the world. Oh, my God. Like, I get to, like, go and write jokes for your sister with Dave and Mindy, and then I got to go dick around with Seth and those guys. So it's all, but it's, and the whole business, you guys know, you get moments of luck and you get moments of despair. And it's a wave, and I'm sure, a year and a half from now, I'll fucking be like, fuck them, but, like, you know, right now.

It's a humbling industry. It is. But now that you've worked your ass off to get to where you are and hopefully it keeps going and going, but is there an added pressure to be funny and funnier and make sure, oh, my God, or you just say, fuck it. I'm just going to do what I do. I think that. I don't think there's a, you know what I mean? Like the pressure is to make sure work is good. Yeah.

But I'm so lucky. Yeah. I've also, I think all of us on this Zoom right now do. understand we we love our business we care about it we invest our time and our energy we love watching it but we also understand the difference the balance of our families and the importance of that and like nothing nothing supersedes that and the relationships you have and it's a crazy planet right now a lot it's very hot and it's important to i think kind of really remember that's the important stuff yeah especially with everyone's success it's about

sort of prioritizing that you got your three girls like it's as busy as you are you obviously you're a dad first you want to make sure that you cater to that before 100% right 100% that's all that yeah and that can get tough being busy yeah yeah you can miss shit especially yeah if you're an actor you're going to go do a movie in new zealand or something we went we did a panel we were doing this like deadline panel i get on face time and ike is at bristol farms picking up food so that he can feed his kids before he has to go do something else. You're the best dad, Ike.

And I love what you're saying. I love what you're saying because John, John, I'm sure you are an amazing father as well because you guys grew up. Like, it's, I think we all are very kindred. A little more, like, kindred, family spirit. He was a very hard disciplinary.

Yeah. It feels like, yeah, very rough. No, but you're right, Kate. Like, it's like we're so lucky to grow up in the house as we did where, you know, our parents just, they, they were just nice people first. They were, like, nice. And so, you know. And it comes from siblings to, like, I don't know if you guys listen to The Daily or listen to the, today's daily was about this new book called The Power of Siblings. Yeah.

And it's like, it's amazing. Have you, like, have you read it? Not yet. No, but, but I just, I just read about it. Wow. That's not, that's how far I've got read about it. And I'm like, it's cool. Like, I'm like, right away, I'm like, oh, yeah, it's crazy how much your siblings influence you and your behavior and like, without even knowing it.

Like, they just like. More so than your parents. Yeah. Real quick. Can I just do a quick imitation of Michael Barbaro on the Daily? John, just say what the book's about. So this books is about how our siblings influence and inform our lives and our child. I really get the sound button.

Love you, Mikey, B. All right, last question. I'll actually remember before. The oneer that you guys shot, how many takes did you do? Oh, my guy. They shot it in four chunks. Okay.

And what they would do is, I think they're planning on we can cheat stuff, but that house, that's a famous house, that's a John Lottner house called Silvertop and it's all window. So we would show up at like nine and we would rehearse until like magic hour. So we would rehearse all day until like 4.30 or five

and then shoot as many takes as we could for chunk one until the sun came down. And some days we got to shot, there was one day where we didn't get it and it was a little heartbreaking. But it was really intense. Did anyone fuck up? Oh my God

so many times And like And when you fuck up like We've all been like Where you fuck up like a complicated shot Yeah And you're just like All the sudden like

Our steady cam operator Who's been like On his feet for like 18 hours It's like I'm sorry I was I was talking about that with Catherine Hahn We did like the actors on actors thing

For Variety And I was talking about Improv like Imagine being the asshole who like has the improv line that like messes everything up. It's just like awful. You're talking to that asshole. I knew it would have been you.

Yeah, of course. Sorry guys, I decided to throw in a totally new line that none of you had heard before. You know if it was a cue line. I'm sorry about that. Let's go again. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. So here's the last question, right?

It's a two-parter. If you could alleviate something from, your brother, something that you could take away from his life that would make it just a little bit better, what would it be? And on the flip side of that, if you could take something from him, if you could emulate something. I would, I'll go first. I would alleviate stress. You know what I mean? Like, John, I think sometimes carries stress differently than I did, always has since he was a boy. He's able to manifest it incredibly well. But you could tell you know your brother better than you know yourself um i would steal it's like two sides of one coin because what i would uh emulate from

him is his patience which is i don't have that like i am a little little bitch and he is just he he is so like poised and calm and even when bad things happen the way he handles it and carries himself it's just like i could never do that so there you go yeah beat that Johnny, you fucking dick. Mine fucking sucks. I want his Nikes. No, I, my answer

was also weirdly going to be stress, which I can take away the stress. And I guess, like, I wish I could give, be able to give him more time to, because I feel like he's incredibly packed with time of, like, you said, Ali, of, like, parenting and working and, like,

alleviate some of that pressure and stress. and my emulator is like it's such a stupid one but like he is I would love to be like I can I think it's okay to say this I can

I can smoke weed and and like it be like talk to the president and like I love smoking weed but I can't like leave my house if I do it anymore I just like And I feel like I'm so, so comfortable in his own skin.

This is the best one we've ever had. He can be, he's, he's so, I think the thing is, like, being so comfortable in his own skin. And he can do that across, like, being in any, any state of inebriation or, like, oh, yeah. And that's something I would love to be able to do. You can smell, I can smell Ike from, like, you know, stage, stage 10. I'm like, I love my, I love that I was like, I love that I was like, I want to, my, My brother's patience and soul is so beautiful.

And he's like, he has a drug problem. No, no. The root of mind is being comfortable in his own skin, like, and being able to like. Right, but when you're high. You just wish you didn't have panic attacks going outside when you're high. You're going to work through that shit, my friend. I feel like whether, like, forget the high thing, whether he's talking to, like, really like, the head of whatever.

And, like, he can be talking like the head of the UN or like, like, you know, his gardener. And, like, it is the same level of comfortability with both. And that's, like, such a cool thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, smoke. We with Butros, bootros, golly. Oh, my God. That would be a great stone session with bootro.

That would be very good. Quick question. Do you have the same ability like your brother does with, like, Jeopardy? Do you, can you? Yeah, I think I got the trivia thing. I got the trivia thing, too. It's a weird, freakish thing. It's so weird.

I'm not as good at them. I'm looking at, I'm looking at, I. I'm looking at, well, I can tell you why he's better than me because we're in a daily trivia league and we're in the same group this year and I am currently number 12 and you can see right there number three, Jay Barrett-Hulls.

Oh, wow. That is the trivia league work? It's just like a question today? No, it's, it's great. It's every season. So it's four times a year and it's like three weeks or four weeks each time. And every day you get an email

that has six questions. And they're like pretty hard. There's some where I'm like, I have no clue. The average correct, if you get two in a day, you're like, that's good. But what you do is you're going head to head against other people in the group and you score their points. So you can look and see like, oh, Oliver's really good at like sports and literature, but he's bad at like science and geography. This geography question, if he gets it right, I'm going to give him a high value. You know what I mean?

So there's an extra wrinkle to it. It's really, really good. I'd be awful at this. Last year, the guy heard my last name, and he was like, are you Jay Barronholtz? I'm like, yeah, he's like, I'm T. Bowers. We're in the same Rundle. Like, we're like, like, did you only know the last name? Oh, my God.

A T. T. Rundle. Wait a minute. But is it just on the honor system that you don't just look it up? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That would be hard for me. They do a smart thing, though. They make you check a box saying, I certify that I have told the truth that I didn't cheat. And that strangely fucks me. I'm going to trouble. Yeah, yeah, that would hurt.

Yeah. I would never be able to do anything like that. I've asked you, I've asked you some of the questions before. You've gotten a couple of them. Yeah. I threw some out and you knew some. It's fun. I definitely want to.

I wish I did think. We should do more things like that, Ollie. Yeah, I guess. Like be a part of like clubs. I just got into reading. Let me one step at a time. I just figured out reading. All right.

Well, we love you guys. So fun, you guys. I like go write a great season two. Love you guys. Everybody's counting on you. I'm excited, you guys. Fucking great. Great work.

John. I love all for you. John. Good talking to you, brother. We'll see you again. We'll see you. Love you all. you all.

Love you. Goodbye, my babies. Bye, baby. Bye. Oh. I know. I'm so lucky. Oh, you're so lucky.

In L.A., working with the greatest people. They're so great. Laugh our butts off all day. You have hit the jackpot. I know. I'm so, I really, this is when I do those moments where I feel like,

like, what are you do in your life to actually, or what have you done in a past life to actually be able to experience that kind of joy in this life you know because that's what it feels like it is and it's so much fun and yeah and he's so smart and everybody's so smart i always try to say you know just because it looks easy and effortless doesn't mean that that's what it is oh it's just it's just there's so much work involved and he works so hard it's and it's just yeah it's the best yeah well i'm about to go see you, baby. All right.

I'm going to go see my new little niece. Oh my God. On a Fujikawa side. I love you. Love you too. Okay. Bye. Bye.

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