Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - This Is Joey & Hunter King

Episode Date: September 8, 2026

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We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling rivalry. Yeah, no, I feel like, because I can, I feel like I'm pre-focused. No, I know. I'm not.

You know, but I, Dr. Raymond lost me when he told me that I could never smoke weed again. I was just like, no, sorry. Canceled. Now, I'm really excited today because we have someone that I've worked with and she's the greatest and cutest and funniest and smartest. Joey King. I wasn't going to say ever. I'm just saying that's what she is. Okay.

I wasn't going to like classify it. Okay. But she's just the most wonderful girl. And you forgot talented, very talented. Incredibly talented. Saw it an action. Yeah. And our sister, Hunter.

Yeah. But also, I think I met on set. Yep. And then they've got... She's an actor. She's got a movie coming out at the same time. I know. So there's a little bit of competition there.

She's done a bunch of Hallmark movies. So have I. Did you know mom and I had a movie that came out the same time? You did? Yeah. Who won? I think Mom beat me at the box office. Oh.

I think it was Four Feathers and Bangor Sisters. Oh. I think. Four feathers banging. Four feathers. Big old flop. Yeah. Big old flop.

Lappadines. Was that right after almost famous? I don't remember. We got to talk to your agents about that choice. Do you think they believe in God? I mean, why not? Okay, let's ask. Bring on.

Okay. Wait, am I doing it. I'm looking at myself. No, me too. This is a hard part. Yeah, but keep this in. We're waiting for the Kings. Hey.

Hey. Hello. Hi. Hi. Hi. How are you? Oh, there's Joey. Ah!

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my. Wait, I got to do it too, I guess. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. Hi. The girl's screen feels good, doesn't it? It does actually. And, you know, it's like kind of the hands that sort of the fingers stay open, you know, because you don't want to fuck up the nails. So it's like, oh.

You get it. You get it. I get it. I'm a very strong feminine side. Oh, he does. I do. He does. Well, you're a Virgo.

I'm a Virgo. I'm this close to getting my period. Oh. You're so lucky. He's so lucky. So lucky. It's the best. Where are you both?

Where in the world are you right now? I'm in Los Angeles. You're in L.A. I'm in L.A. Just finished up the L.A. leg of the Practical Magic Press store. Oh, yes. And Hunter. I am in Salt Lake, Utah.

Oh. Yeah. Do you live there? I kind of split time. It depends where we're working. So my husband also works in the industry. So he's working here right now. So we're here in Salt Lake.

We're sometimes in L.A. She just finished production in Canada. So she's now just finally settling down from that as well. Are you in Salt Lake a bunch, like to the point where it's kind of second homie? Yeah, it is, which I do. I really like it here. They have soda shops. Did you know about that?

Yes. Where you can pick and choose and mix and match soda and create your own. Oh, yeah. I still just get a diet cook, but it's like perfectly crispy. Perfectly crisp So does like an old school soda shop Like you can have like a Well it's not like a 50s like B-Bab do woo-wop

It's like a drive-thru where they only sell soda Yes Yeah you go inside and everyone breaks into song With their saddle shoes and their poodle skirt Right, exactly. No we we actually I drive I drive from Colorado to L.A. all the time and the kids we stopped in Richfield, Utah,

and they, because it's a TikTok sensation, I guess. And they were like, oh, my God, such and such. I forget the name of the place. What's it called? Yeah, one of them was Swig, Swig and so delicious. Yeah, so delicious. They're like, oh, my God, there's a so delicious. And they go in and you can just kind of make your own soda.

That's fun. I know. Only in Utah. Only in Utah. You guys try it. It must be owned by Mormons. It is. I think it is.

All right and I had a God conversation. Well, I just don't believe in this. really one God. You know, one Christian Judeo God, a big man in the sky with a beard sort of telling you. I had a God conversation the other day with someone. I really like, I think it's a really great way to get to know people. It is. It is.

All of a sudden, just being like, what do you think about the most extreme existential part of the world? It's a great way to think out. And polarizing. Totally. It's even a day morning chat. But by the way, I mean, it is a good way to immediately get to sort of understand the foundation of that person when you sort of talk religion. Right. Or how far you can go with them when it comes to anything like truly scientific.

Right. Yes. Right. And how far you can go when you're joking around. Yeah. It's like, it's like, okay, we just about to reach that line. Yeah. Well, no one will ever know anyway. You're dead. It's the sort of, no one's going to know. I mean, think, it's a little more when you get with it. I mean, I know, I know. You don't. I'm super psychic.

Wait, Hunter, you said you're also psychic? I am. I also have psychic abilities. I'm pretty sure. So I do understand when you say that you know something. Like, I knew that her sister was pregnant before she knew. I also, like, grew when I was younger, like, really intense, like, ghosts and visitations. And, like, got so bad that my.

My mom took me to a psychic so I could learn how to turn it off. We were actually staying. Mom was working. We were in the countryside of England. And there were spirits there that were, it's not like, oh, I think I heard something. I mean, this was fucking crazy. It was like we were in a movie. And whatever was there did not like her.

Well, it's not that I didn't like me. It was like bully. Yeah. The entity was bullying you. It was trying to, you know. It also threw you in a pool. Yeah. I almost drought.

Like really hardcore. I like fell out of bed every night. Yeah, fell out of bed. She would trip over the same spot in the hallway. My mom was like, what's going on? My shower would go on every night. This is so scary. You could crunching up to the,

it's like kind of just all horror movie shit. We were crunching up to the doorway and there's no one there. The pans would rattle above the thing. And like everyone saw it and felt it. Like everyone in the house. And then my mom finally went to the person that she read to the house from

because she was doing a movie there. And she was like, This house is so haunted. This was after I had like, I basically got into the pool that was like totally far away and gated. Gated. Almost drowned. The caretaker was having this morning tea found her.

And, and my mom was finally, she was like, I'm out. We're out of here. This is getting crazy. And went to the person and was like, what is going on here? And they were like, well. Like, I don't know what you're talking about. No. They knew.

So they knew it was haunted. They knew it was haunted. And then they said that it was a little boy. They told mom that people had seen a young boy. So anyway. He's like and he looked a little like you. That's like one story. Like I was.

Well, you're looking at me. I promise. Well, okay, girls, let's get into it. Where are you, where were you born and raised? We were born in Simi Valley, California, born and raised. Nice. And how many are there, how many kings? Tiblings, three girls.

There's three gals. We've got an oldest sister, Kelly King. Then Hunter's our middle sister, and I'm the baby. Oh, of course. So your oldest sister is. She's a year and a half older than me. Okay. And then I'm six and a half years older than Joey.

Okay. There's six and a half and seven and a half years older than me. So I was like, no one, knowing. We were surprised. I was a mistake, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kate was trying to be nice, but it's like surprise mistake. But by the way, if you taught Kay, who's met our mom before.

That's right. You know our mom. My mom would happily say that all of us were not, were we mistake. We were not blessed. All of us. Every single one of us. All of all three.

Yeah. So what was it like just growing up the dynamic? Was it all copacetic and fun? Or was their rivalries? Was their drama? Were their sister fights? Tim was some drama. There was a little drama.

So my older sister, I've always been obsessed with her. But I think we were just so close in age that she's like, no, you can't wear my clothes. You can't hang out with my friends. So of course, I would wear her clothes and try to hang out with her friends. And she hated that. So we butt heads a little bit. But when Joey came along, we both obsessed with her.

Yeah, no, yeah. She didn't like that much. And I was like the total tattletail. I just wanted to always be good for my mom. And so Joey's always gotten along with all of us. I will say, I've had it really, I had it really easy. Like the two of them were so good to me. I had no issues really.

And Hunter and I shared a room for most of our lives when we were kids. Well, most of my life, I should say. But I, Hunter and I shared a room until Hunter turned 14 wasn't, right? 14 or 15. And she moved to the room just like right across the hallway from me, like catty corner. Was it like devastating? I was like, I was like. Nevisated.

Like I was inconsolable. Like I was so, so sad. Is that because Hunter was like, I love you, but it's time for my own space. I mean, it was fair enough. Like it was time. Like she would wake up. Like she would, I had like issues. So she would have to deal with a lot of like, I was like a sleep talker and I would also throw up in my sleep sometimes.

And I would fall off the bag and like, wait, wait, hold on. Back up. You would throw up in your sleep. Yes. I would like puke in my sleep. I don't know. There was never. I don't know.

This kid was always throwing up as a child. And it is my biggest fear. Puking constantly. Constantly. And so I would just wake up to her, the sound of vomit. or her poof just hitting the floor. Oh, my God, Joey. It's stressful.

Wow. What is it happening in your sleep? I would, I don't know. I mean, I sleep much better now, but it was, this was part of my, my wedding speech at Hunter's wedding. Like, how when she moved, like, I started crying when I was talking about the part when she moved rooms. I was, like, losing my anchor to, like, the world.

And I was so devastated. But poor things she had to do with, I would wake up sometimes to her and my mom, like, cleaning me off with wet ones. because I like threw up all over myself. Oh. I know. I never heard this. This is unbelievable.

I'm gonna try. I feel like I need to chat GPT this. Right. Yeah, what does sleep puking? Yeah, like, what does sleep puking mean? What was, oh, hold on. Was this, was this ever something where your parents were like, maybe we should just get this checked out?

No, I was like, I was like, yes, it was a very, it was a problem. Like I had, I was, I was very a stomach sick child. I was like super dupe. for small. I was not, I wasn't growing at the rate I was supposed to. I wasn't gaining weight at the rate I was supposed to because I was always getting sick and throwing up everywhere. And so eventually, I don't know, something clicked when I turned like nine or something. I stopped getting, I stopped getting sick and I started growing and I started like hitting my markers that I was supposed to hit as like a developing child. Yeah. That's so interesting. Really interesting.

It's always like your body, like your body wasn't metabolizing. Yeah. Every time. I would get like a cold, it would turn into a stomach bug. It was crazy. Interesting. And like Hunter was such a compassionate sister, but her worst fear was throwing up. So it's like every time I would be throwing up, she'd be like, she'd be like gagging in the corner, like trying to offer support. The sound in that room at 4 a.m. is probably hysterical.

She would come home. She's gagging. I'm gagging. She would come home and my mom be like, I want you to sleep on the couch. Joey's thrown up again. Well, I'm glad we can laugh about it. now. That time has since passed, thank goodness.

So you guys grew up in Seamy Valley and was your family always into the arts? Was it always like a performing, like what do your parents do? Are they in the arts? No, our dad worked for the city for Department of Water and Power. And my mom, she did like some plays growing up and some theater growing up and my grandma really loved theater. But no, not really my mom was a real estate agent. before she was a stay-at-home mom. Yeah.

And she just... And then a stage mom. And then a stage mom. And a stage mom. Yeah. It really all started with our older sister, Kelly. She was just such a cute,

cute kid. And had such a adorable personality that people are like, you got to put her into acting. She like freckles and like thick, dark, curly hair and like pale skin. And all, yeah, exactly. Everyone was like, you gotta get that kid

on the commercials. Hey, mom, let's get this. Get on the screen. So you have. So they got you all in when you were young, doing commercials and... Well, then Kelly, she's in marketing. She's in Netflix now. Yeah.

She decided at 15 years old that she was done. Yeah. She did her dream job. She was on an episode of Grey's Anatomy and was like, I think I'm good. Yeah. But you know, it's interesting because it also started as a way for us, like, my mom knew that her and my dad were never going to be able to put us through college or anything like that. So, you know, it kind of started as a means for us to just make a little bit of money for ourselves, do some commercials, starts like, you know, saving for us, for our funds, for our future funds.

And then it turned into our lifelong passions and full-blown careers, which is, thank God. But were you guys acting in high school and doing plays and all that? Or was it just? I mean, Joey was for sure. I didn't go to high school. She didn't go to high school. I didn't really start consistently working until I was 18 right when I left high school. But, yeah, Joey was working from the time that she was four up until, you know, her whole life.

So, oh, yeah, she grew up on. So you were homeschooled. Yeah, I went to regular school until I was in, like, fifth grade. And then it just got too, it got too busy. And it got to the point where I was, like, sending back my homework to my third grade teacher from, like, a horror film set. And it accidentally had, like, fake blood all over it. And my mom was just like, this is too much. We got to, like, we got to figure this.

So I started homeschooling from sixth grade onwards. And I only played a high schooler longer than I would have ever been in high school. And the only high schools I ever went into was when I was playing high school. So it's so interesting because I feel like then it makes you the sisters, especially for you, Joey, like one of your like your biggest social circle. Like how did you create? Yeah. Like did you were you able to have a real sort of social like a community for yourself with other girls your own age? just working and...

I mean, I had Kelly and Hunter, so it's like I had the friends, I had the best friends that I needed, you know what I mean? But I also had, I mean, growing up, I had one great friend from Simi Valley who has still, like, she's Ariana, she's still my friend today. And then as I got a little bit older and could stay in touch with people myself, I started to grab and garner like some more solid, like real friends that I could see more often. But honestly, growing up, it was just like a little. lot of, I was, I'm just a friendly person. So like, I gathered friends everywhere I went.

But did you, did you long for school? Did you long for normal life in any way? Or you were just happy working and being on set? I did not, no, I didn't long for, for that. You didn't? Because I think that, like, when I would come home from set, my life was so normal. Like me and my sisters were, we'd do a lot of normal things. And we were just a very normal, you know, also, like, dysfunctional felt real, real normal. But yeah, being on set just became like my norm. And, you know,

the hardest part every time, whether it was I going away for something or Hunter going away for a job, like leaving my sisters when I would leave for a job or they would leave for a job, that was the part that would like wreck me and rip me to, I would sob every time I had to say goodbye to them.

And like, my mom has all these pictures. in our photo albums of me just hugging Hunter being like, it was the worst. It was terrible. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pasto survive the first bite?

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Listen to the Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hunter and I did live together for a very long time, even after we, you know, grew up. It always makes me say, even when she's like, she went to Canada just for like, you know, a while, several weeks just now. And then she's in Utah now. And I'm like, well, hell are you coming home? I know. I know. You've abandoned.

That's how I feel about our younger brother, Wyatt. He just decided to move to Colorado. and I'm like, oh. I know. This whole podcast, fuck. I don't know. Like, every time we interview like sisters or brothers and it's like such a tight bond, we do.

But we're so used to being away from each other as a family. I know. But so are we? Well, we don't get sick because we're always together. But are we? Yes. I mean, really? Yes.

How often do you guys see each other? Oliver now because of this, we see each other a bunch. And also our kids. We spent all summer together. Oliver is just having, just starting his period. I'm like, I'm like,

I really love to like do, you know, a trip without my family and then cut to like summer. It's just our family. The whole time. Everyone. No, I know.

You were doing, you know, almost famous and you were all fabulous and you were married. And married to my early 20s. You were gone. Yeah. I didn't even know you.

And then I had a rider. Yeah. Oliver, that's like, here's what I think. That's the thing that's really cool about siblings is like it ebbs and flows. Like we have years where we're like, we don't see each other very much. And then you kind of like check in to your, like, someone asked me this the other day, do you think you'd be friends with your siblings if they weren't your siblings? And I'm like, of course I would, number one, we get along so well.

But number two, if you really think about it, there's different iterations of life where you're like, I wonder if we would have been friends in this iteration of life or if it would have just like fizzled out. But the coolest thing about siblings is that there's no fizzle last. you're going to always have that front row seat to somebody's life. So even if you've got years where you're not seeing each other as much or not talking as much, but then you've got those years where you're reconnecting, you're still like by blood, like got this front row seat and you'll never not have it. Which is really nice.

I have to deal with it. I also think we adapt. We also adapt to this, adapt to however long we're hanging out and seeing each other. So I missed the most I've missed you, I think, ever is like after this summer. I know. Because we were so together with all the kids every day. It was so fun. We had the best time. And it was like, oh, man. And so then, you know, it's like, oh, I miss. You miss. Then what happens is life happens. You sort of move away. You get back into other routines. You get back into your groove and your other routines. Right. But we've got, I mean, we're so lucky when you think about it. And you guys, too, like, when you have good relationships with your siblings, it's like the best thing in the world because you know you can just lean on them. You could like forget about them for like a month and a half. Right. And then. And then. And, And then like something can happen. You're like, Oliver, get over what you do? You know, it's like the greatest, you know, when it's good, it's great.

But you do have to kind of continue to make those, like we, you know, moments happen. Like we always say, hey, we got to do sibling dinners. We don't do siblings dinners. We try. There's four of us, you know. We talk about this a lot too. Yeah, we tried. It didn't work out.

And we can't like, it's like we have to make it happen. Yeah. It's hard. It's hard. But you guys are so lucky that you get to like have that close relationship. Now, is everybody married now? Yeah. Yeah.

And is everyone like everyone's husband? Yeah. Yeah, everybody gets along. Like that is really some of my family. Obviously, just time with my sisters is so nice. But it is hard to just get your siblings together. But when it's all six of us, all together, it's so nice. Because you're like, this is our chosen family too.

No, it is. It is so beautiful. It is really, really nice. I will say, though, I could, I could really use just like a sister's day. Yeah. Just like, I mean, our husbands are great. They're the nicest guys, do lovely people. Do all the dudes get along? All the husbands get along? Yeah. All the husbands get along. Which, speaking of, it's Joey and Stevens' anniversary today. What? It's their three-year anniversary. Is it the anniversary of your wedding or when you met? Yeah, it's our wedding anniversary today.

How fun. How many? This is our third wedding anniversary. Wow. I just had my 20th. Oh my gosh. Congratulations. What did you do? That's a big one.

20. We went up to Santa Barbara. Oh, you did do something. I love Santa Barbara. Well, you're in Santa Barbara for two nights and just stayed at host ranch and just spend a ton of money and had fun. You mean, you said. No, sorry. Sanisidro and just boned a bunch.

Oh. Lovely. Just boned a bunch. As you should. That's what you got to do. That's so cute after 20 years, you're still boning. We bone all the time. I know.

You guys are a boning kind of couple. Sex has gotten better as we have gotten older and more mature. That's so cute. That's so spectacular. It is. It is. And I attribute it honestly to me. But it's the best possible way.

What is the secret? Well, honestly. Honestly, I found. more vulnerability in my life. I was able to sort of understand that this was a place that might be lacking because I was afraid to truly express myself in the way I felt. Not only to Aaron, my wife,

but to Kate, my mom, women in general. I learned through a ton of work that, you know, it's not as scary as I thought it was. And all of a sudden, I was able to open up, which for sexual purposes, freeze up everything, even though we've been together for a thousand years and having sex for a thousand years, all of a sudden, that vulnerability, me being able to sort of tell her these things and be open just honestly made her even more comfortable.

Isn't that cool about what it's like sharing your life with somebody? You're just like, you get to, yeah, you get to kind of unlock new deaths together as time goes on. It never stops. It's always my favorite. It was my favorite thing. I heard it somewhere on some like, you know, Instagram or something. Or someone said, yeah, I've been married five times just to the same person. Oh, I've seen that.

Yeah, yeah. And I love that because it's like, you know, we have to allow change, individual change. Like everybody's individual human experience is important for them to have. You need that freedom. To have your own life experience outside of the partnership. When you have a partner who can give you that kind of freedom or space, then you're constantly, and you can do that with your partner as well, you're constantly like rediscovering things about each other.

I'm trying to think of the five that I, the five people who I have been in my marriage. Like probably the young club guy, you know, who was just fucking party animal. She saw a lot of potential. Yeah, yeah, a lot of potential. And then major anxiety guy, panic attacks on Lexapro. Then the asshole,

cock sucker guy and then the father and then the finally the amazing vulnerable old old guy 50 year old what a good character art for you yeah a couple days this one right here happy yeah that's right it is where go says that's so weird it is weird it is weird I don't even care about age I never think about age I just don't I actually don't care it's just kind of crazy when you think about how quickly life goes by, like our sister had a baby and she's almost one. And I'm like, how the actual fuck is crazy, almost one.

And it's like that that is like, for me to my sister, our sister's baby is the first baby I've ever really been around because my sisters had me. Like I was so much younger than them and they were like, they saw so much change in me. But I'd never really been around a baby before. And like I, first of all, never knew I could love something like this much. And also seeing those like small developmental changes from like three months to five months.

So it is truly like watching a human start to develop their cognitive abilities. It is the most it's like the most incredible. And I also feel like the way that I love our sister now. Like I love her in a way that I never knew I could love her more. Like it's crazy. I know. Yeah, seeing her be a mother. Kids like kids, we're talking about this yesterday about like it just is every cliche that

ever hear is just so right on when you have kids, like, they're the marker of time. They're, you wear your heart on your sleeve, you know, all of a sudden your heart's outside of your body, you know. I mean, there's just a million cliches and they're all right on, usually. Behind every night spent making the kids' lunches, there's a lot of suspense. Will they finally eat the veggies? Will the pesto survive the first bite? Will the lunchbox come home empty, half full, or come home at all? And will you finish episode 8 before you're done slicing the cucumbers?

Get Bell Pure Fiber Internet with craved Netflix and Disney Plus from $94 a month. Price guaranteed for two years on internet with a two-year term and auto pay credit. Visit bell.za for details and to check availability. Bell, connection is everything. When I was 14 years old, I was kidnapped and held captive for nine months. I survived, and I've spent my life exploring how other people survive what should have destroyed them. I'm Elizabeth Smart, and these are the Survivor Files. I just remember this low, taunting voice next to my ear saying, shut up, don't say anything.

Every week, I'm with survivors who live through the unthinkable. I knew if he woke up, without a doubt, he was going to hurt me. I started feeling that there was someone at the end of my bed, and I just started screaming. They are abducted, stalked, controlled, and nearly silenced. But these aren't stories about what's taken from them. There's stories about what it takes to make it out alive. Listen to the Survivor Files with Elizabeth Smart on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Where are you guys at with kids, when timing, you know. Do you want kids? You love, absolutely want Stoke to have. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not so sure. I used to really want babies so, so bad. I used to tell my mom I was going to be a teen mom.

I'm sure that she did say that when she was a teenager. I don't know what possessed me to say that, but I was really convinced it was going to happen. Again, I don't know why. But I, you know, now, like the older I get, like our jobs are so all over the place and traveling that we're kind of like at a, I don't know, we'll see. So I'm really enjoying anti-life, though, because that is the, biggest blessing is watching manyies grow up. Now she can wave. She knows the song,

if you're happy and you know what clap your hands. She's a pretty genius. It is interesting too because our oldest sister, I mean, I don't want to put her in her own blast or anything, but she was of three of us, never the person who really had been like motherhood is the most like so important to me one day. She was kind of like maybe, I don't, I don't know, whatever. And then watching her now become a mom, it's like the most natural thing. The most natural thing. The most natural thing. She's like this like soft like, it's crazy. It's so cool.

I'm like it's like I love watching. I mean, we both. We love watching. Yeah. It's the best. And then they go to college. Yeah. I just dropped my.

Oh my God. By the way. I just dropped my oldest off and then she and hers just graduated college and you're just like, what the fuck? You want to talk about being one years old. What about when your kid is 19 and you dropped them off a college? Like, what the fuck happened? First of all, I still feel.

19. I mean, I can't believe I have three children that are old. Like, I'm a child myself, essentially. That makes me feel better, though, that you still feel like that because I sometimes think when am I going to feel like when I feel like an adult, maybe then I'll know it's time to have kids. That makes me feel better of like, you might never feel like a little, no, no, I'll walk into a room with peers or even people who may be a little bit older, but I feel like I'm the young one. Like, I feel like I'm still the 20-year-old walking into a little. Literally, Oliver, I'm like, I'm, like, so confused by, like, people starting to be younger than me, like, period. Oh, just wait. Just wait, baby.

It's weird. You're like, oh, my God, I'm, like, the old person. Yeah. It's so weird. Like, wait, that's so bizarre. I'm looking behind you, Hunter, at your pictures. Where are these pictures? Is this in- That's Napa?

No. This is close. This isn't Tuscany. Ah. And that's we got married. Yeah, this is where we got married. Wedding was this year, by the way. They got married this year.

Oh, wow. Hunter's wedding was beautiful. Was it like a big wedding or was it like now? Super tiny. 38 people. Oh, wow. Which was like perfect. And even that to me, as someone with like very bad social anxiety, I was like,

this is a lot. And my mom, like, she was considering, she was considering doing a ceremony without reading her vow, their vows allowed because she was like afraid of the public speaking aspect. And I was like, I will kill you. if you don't read your vows out loud. What are we doing here if you're not reading your vows? Yeah, well, when you go to- Tuscany, you can weed out a ton of people, right?

Oh, yeah. You would suspect that they would be invited, but it's like, no, no, no, no, we're going to Tuscany. I still am not married. I'm just engaged, and I keep thinking about wedding, you know, like, what are we going to do? And then every time we start thinking about, like, who we have to invite, and Danny's like, I just want a small wedding. I'm like, our family alone is like 50 people.

Yeah. That's so hard. Such a huge family. So hard. We have a small family. Yeah, we've got like, there's a million kids. There's a million uncles and aunts and cousins. No, I know.

I mean, my wedding was controversial with my wife because we did it in Mexico. We only had like 80 people. I did not want to meet anyone at my wedding for the first time. Fair. I love that. I said to Aaron, I said, look, your girlfriend's from. high school. I get it. Your girlfriends, but like, I'm sorry, but the husbands can't come. Oh, my. You were cut through. I did. I just, I was like, maybe I'm an asshole, but I was like, I don't want to be

like, congratulations. Hi, what's your name? Doug? Really nice to meet you. I'm just honestly, I think it's crazy not, I mean, I think it's crazy that you, I, I'm so, I admire you is what I mean. It's like, that is a tough thing to stick to because I felt the same. There was a lot of people I met for the first time on my wedding day. And that's a bummer. How many people are your wedding? 115. And we got married in Majorca. So it was a really good turnout for destination. That was almost where Wyatt and Mayer were going to get married. They wanted to get married in in my order. They love myorka. Whose wedding was better? Joey. No, my dad is too. Don't tell Chris I said that.

It was not true. It was just so beautiful. The setting was so gorgeous. The flowers. I feel like usually people are like, oh, you don't really remember the flowers. I remember her flowers. They were really expensive. It was.

That's part of the way I don't want to get married. I'm like, it's too expensive. It's so expensive. Yeah, I just want like more nerves. I have an idea. You can do what I did for our legal wedding if you would like, just an option to throw out there. This is good.

I did what both Joey and Kelly did. It's like a tradition now. It was we got married at same day marriage.com in North Hollywood. It says dot com. That's awesome. So it's a great establishment. And then we went to our favorite tiki bar, took our immediate family. And then, and I made everybody dress up and we went to medieval times.

And it was a blast. Oh, my God. That sounds incredible. It was so fun. It was incredible. We got a party bus. Grandma was on the party bus. We were all dressed up. That's so fun.

To medieval times. See the jousting. Yeah. We have to take the kids to medieval times. Oh, we should do mushrooms and go to medieval times. Oh, my God. Let's do mushrooms. Absolutely should.

Let's have the kids do mushrooms and we take them to medieval times. Perfect. All right. Well, let's get into the movie. So you guys actually, we were talking about this before you guys got on because my mom and I had the same thing. We had an opening day. We had movies come out the same day And now you guys have movies right

That are coming out the same day Yeah Yeah Hedron you've got your horror movie Yeah very different from practical magic Horror Horror You said horror

It's not like a horror movie I just want to make sure that that gets cleaned up Yeah It's a horror movie Right horror You never know Horro And Joey you're in practical magic too

Everybody's so excited about What is this Well Hunter give us a Yeah, what is this horror movie? Because, you know... I watched the trailer. I don't like... I'm scared.

I don't like watching horror movies. I love horror movies. I'm scared of them. Oh, okay. Well, that's okay. I get it. I watch them like this. Yeah.

Yeah, me too. Hunter and I watch them together like, me. My kids are like obsessed. But what's the... What's the log line of this one? Okay, so Murph from Impractical Jokers. I feel like everybody's seen some episodes of Impractical Jokers.

It's like crack. It's like crack. It comes. on and it's like, fuck, it ended. And then it comes right back on again. I'm like, oh, shit, I can't leave now. I mean, it's... You can't.

You're long. You got to see. So he wrote a book, don't move, and it's based on his book. And I think I'm saying this correctly, it's an arachnid. I want to say it? Giant Spider movie. Oh, my God. And this church group goes out into the woods for like a bonding, camping experience.

And then this big monster spider comes. My wife is arachnophobic, like for real. That she's not. You're going to have to see this one alone. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Is it, does it have good camp to it? Is it campy or taking very seriously?

It knows what it is. It's like a little bit of campy, but it's still like leaning into the horror. I think you really do have something for everybody. You've got the relationships, the father-daughter relationship, the horror, the funny, the spider. It's a fun one. But it's very different from practical magic, too. Spiders, the witches. Yeah, very witchy hunter.

We do have a very, like, witchy season coming up together. It's in October. It's September. It's the fall. It's like the gearing into back to school time. Practical magic, like, one, the first one was huge, right? Yeah. Yeah.

But it took a minute to find its audience. Yeah, it was more culty and like everybody just. I didn't see it. It got like critically panned when it first came. came out years ago, like 28 years ago. I didn't see it. Truly. So you haven't seen it? No, Nicole and I had a falling out.

And I said, I'm not going to see your fucking movie. And she's like, why don't you see my fucking movie? And I'm like, because I fucking don't like you right now. So I still, we're still trying to patch that up. You crank me up. You're funny. They looked at the girls. Everybody looked so gorgeous that the premiere was all over my feed.

So how was it? Did you have a great time? Did you love it? Oh, my God. First of all. What was your relationship to practical magic prior to making practical magic? Did you have work? Yeah, I mean, so when I first saw practical magic, I was about 10, which was pretty

amazing that the movie had like quite a bit of relevance at that point because it was 11 years after it had been released. So I watched it for the first time in the back of our mom's minivan. We had one of those, she had one of those mini vans where it was like, tunk. And then like one of those like little TVs went. Yeah. And I. Those are great sound effects, by the way.

She's a for all the artist. For all the listeners. So I popped in that DVD and that it was like so funny to me because genuinely I, first I loved the movie so much. I was so obsessed with like the sisterhood aspect, the witchiness of it all. But the scary parts, I was like, this is a horror movie. It was so scary to me that I had to fast forward through the scary parts because it was one of those movies. We had a little booklet of DVDs. It was one of my rewatches.

I would rewatch it all the time, but I would always fast forward through the scary parts. And I think when I turned 15 is when I was like, all right, maybe I can handle it. I don't know. But it was such a big movie for me

and for my sisters and I, and like, it's like so crazy that I get to be in the second one. That's so fun. I'm like super, I have got all kinds of spells that I've got into

over the years. Really? Yeah, I like Super Witch. Guys, I'm witchy. Please share. I love it. I'm a Sicilian witch. What kind of spells do you do?

It's what I tell myself. Right. I want to be the head of a mob family. Yeah, and I'm an Italian witch. I'm a Italian witch. None of these things. Stregna. I get both of them.

Kate, what kind of spells do you do? Well, I do a lot of abundant spells. Seems to be working. No, I do all kinds. kinds of stuff. Like I got really into reading Roons. I do, I, I, I'm always doing candles and doing like things with candles.

You're doing taro for a while. I've been doing tarot cards since I was like 19. Can you tell me what this means? The other day I pulled, I was getting my cards read and I was really unsettled by my friend's reaction who was reading my cards. I pulled the tower. Mm-hmm. Well, the tower is a great, it depends. I mean,

just, you just pulled the tower like. with what intention? Like was, I'm not even to say it, but like, did you have a question or was it just like I'm pulling around a car? And what was your friend's reaction? I'm curious. Well, we were doing an interview in my friend Maisie Williams, who plays my sister and this interview host, they were like, okay, now like, pick one of these cards and like, you know,

and like, you know, we'll see what it says about what's to come for you. And I like very intentionally chose, I was like, this card, this is really pulling to me. Like, I don't know. I, like, had set an intention. It was more just, like, show me what you're going to show me. So the tower card is I like the tower card, but usually, so I don't, I don't read negatively. Like, so I don't look into cards, like they're negative. But the tower card is, like, major shifts of change.

Disruption. Yeah, that's what I said. Something like. Now, I would have said, oh, that's interesting. I would have said pull another card because then you could have indicated kind of what. It could be anything. It could be a shift in, it could be as, you know, work-related. Like, you were going to do a project and then it falls apart.

It could be, it could be anything like that. Like something. But it seemed bad. They were like, oh, like the two of them were like, no, we were just talking about what if someone pulls the tower? And I was like, oh. And then my friend, my friend tried to make me feel better because, like, I have a move, like, we're moving soon.

And she's like, maybe the move's just going to suck. And I'm like, okay. Yeah, right. They didn't elaborate. They were just like, oh, God, we haven't seen that in years. Yeah, no, they were just like, yeah, you've a lot. You've something huge, something big and that's going to change is coming up. And it's probably going to be uncomfortable for a little bit.

But you'll be okay. I'm like, I've already had a bit of a tough year. So I don't see it as uncomfortable. I don't see the terror card as uncomfortable. I see it as like, it could be shocking. So, like, it could be like something like, whoa. I did not see that coming, you know? But uncomfortable is like saying like it's not, it doesn't have to be uncomfortable.

You know what I mean? It could just be like, my wichy vibes are telling me that I feel like I know what it is, but I will say that to that I don't chase it. But I'll write it down. Maybe I should do that on our part. So you think you know what it is, but you're not going to. I do. Just in case I'm wrong.

I don't want to like put it out there and have to be wrong. Oh my God. I can't wait until we talk later. I have so many ideas. I can already tell you what I think it is. Chris Nolan. You're like, Chris Nolan.

The towel. Let's head down. See, that's the thing. Everyone seems to like, they just seem to think it was like, whatever it is, it's going to be like something hard. And I was like, okay. A lot of great things are hard. Yeah.

And you know what Hunter? I like that attitude. Yeah. Who is reading these cards? Maisie Williams, my friend. She doesn't know what she's talking about. I mean, I should. I would have a card off.

I'm going to have a card off of the, wait as is she. Game of Thrones. Right, right, Game of Thrones. Measy, Game of Thrones. Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, got it. Oh, she reads, cards.

Yeah. Interesting. Loveliest, loveliest girl. Yeah. Okay. Kate's really good at it. The only problem is it just, she keeps going. It's like seven hours.

Oh, they're like, Italy. and she was reading Jamie's cards or friends cards. Jamie was like a sleep. She's like, I was like, I was like, I'm like in 2013. All right.

You're on board chair. I want you to read my card so bad. I can rain it in. I can rain it in. I can't. But it depends because sometimes like they just start going. It just starts going. You just got to bring snacks.

You just got to drink snacks. You got to bring fuel. Maybe a couple gels. Well, I'm so excited for, for you. you guys in all of your movies. Thank you.

And then one thing I was also thought, did you read in the notes that their dad is a champion arm wrestling? Yeah. Oh, yeah, I wanted to talk about it. Yeah. But he also worked with Sly on over the top, which is like one of my favorite movies. When we were kids. Oh, my God. This song, Meet Me Halfway.

Meet Me Halfway Across the Sky. You know that song? No. What? Anyway, it was a father-son relationship, so it got me because our father and I'm a son. Oh, that's right. It didn't really like work out. You know how that works.

You know, but Sly's kid, he's kind of just getting to know his dad. Yeah. And he takes him on the road and then he wins the fucking championship. But your dad was an actual arm wrestler? Yeah. Yeah. He did like stunts for a little bit. So that's why he was in that movie.

The only job he ever did. Yeah, he did arm wrestling stents. But yeah, before that, he was a professional arm wrestler, yeah. Yeah, we have photos of him holding up, like, giant trophies from his arm wrestling days. Is he huge? No, he's actually a normal-sized guy. It's technique, isn't it? A lot of techniques.

He just has, he had natural, like, he had an insanely natural, gigantic forearms, like really muscular forearms, very, like genetically. Wow. But any man he meets, it's always. Do you want arm wrestle? Did he arm wrestle all of your husbands? He's tried. He's attempted.

You have like an arm wrestling like chair area. He's like sit down. He would like shake their hand and then like brutally twisted and it actually hurt them initial meeting. And we would all be like, Dad's Dad, Dad, that's ridiculous. And my mom would be like, Terry, leave them alone. And then these guys were like, oh, ow, ow, ow, ow. And we were always like, why are you? It was really funny.

Wait, I have a quick question. Was your mom's favorite color green? No. I don't, why? Are you trying to be psychic? No. Kelly Hunter. Kelly Green, Hunter Green.

Oh. Joey, there's a Joey green. No, there's not Joey green. But my wife was as obsessed with the color green and when she was a kid wanted to name her kids, Kelly and Hunter. Oh, really? Yeah, because it's green.

That's so crazy. What are other green colors? Jade. Forest green. Jade. Emerald. Emerald. I like it.

Grass. No, it's not really green. It feels like a blue green. You know. All right, ladies. What are you looking forward to next? Like what is the next thing that you're super excited about that you can't wait to tackle in your life or in your career? Oh, well, I don't know if this necessarily counts, but as soon as you said, were you most excited for it next?

Wait, I was going to say the same thing, I think. What are you going to say? Should we say the same thing? I was like, I can't wait for you to come home. I was going to say, I was going to say to same thing. I was like, well, I really pitched to get home. That was the best. No, legit, my best friend, my sisters.

Oh, for real. So that. Yeah, so that. That's my. And then I can't wait to see Hunter's movie and watch her shine on the screen. I can't wait to see practical magic. I have like an outfit plan for when I go to the theater and everything. Do you guys, I know we're going to get out of here, but I'm curious, do you guys give each other notes?

Have you ever been like, you know, there's good. The scene, they're like, you know, I mean, maybe you could have done this or is it just like full? Well, we do that. We do that for each other when we, if and when we go over lines with each other. So it's like not once we've seen a project. But sometimes it's like if I'm on location, she's on location, one of us needs to do a tape. We'll like read for each other and just be the reader and just like help out. And that's always I'm like, I'm like, what do you think?

He's the bad. She's always amazing and she gives very good notes. I trust her. You do too. Do you guys do that? Do you guys ever read for it? Like, I don't know. Do you give each other notes after you've seen a project?

I have so many notes. It's too many notes. I just tell her to put it in an email. I can't do it all the whole thing. No, but she will, she will send me scripts and stuff and say, read this. What do you think? Oliver is my favorite reader.

I love when he's got such a great, you know, like if I'm sort of, if I'm like stuck on something or if I'm like, am I, is it crazy that I like this? Like, am I, is my brain like not working? I'll send it to Oliver and be like, just tell me what you think about this. Yeah. And he's got such great. You're so good with structure and story and character development.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it's, you know. Oliver was like, yeah, I am. One of her spells was not allowing me to rise above Lifetime movies. That was one of her spells. I light that candle every morning. Right, it's right. Oh, my.

The candle. I have like a little doll. I have like a little doll. You guys are so funny. I'm obsessed with you too. Oh my God. I'm getting excited to go home and get witchy. I've got so many books on spells and all kinds of things.

I was like, uh-huh, I haven't done it in a second. Oh, I love a psychic. Don't get me wrong. I mean, I've consulted them with jobs before. Should I do this or should I not? You know, I mean, 100%. But there's always a grain of salt in there. I mean, according to psychics, I'm supposed to be George Clooney by now.

It didn't quite happen. You know what I mean? I mean, like, there's a ton of things that were supposed to have happened that didn't happen. But life isn't over. You know what I mean? When I'm feeling a little bit lost, I talk to, like, just kind of like, spiritually, I talk to our grandfather, who I'm named after. I never met him.

Hunter, Hunter got to meet him, and he was a pretty cool guy, apparently. Yeah. But that's kind of, like, where my, like, my biggest witchiness is, like, I kind of just, like, talk to the dead if I can or I try to you know what I mean? I do the same thing just like hey grandpa oh yeah I don't know what to do that means he's your guy that's he that's he's probably grandma yeah I do too I talk to grandma I have this thing sometimes we talk to grandma too but she's alive I have this thing where sometimes when I'm feeling a certain way at night like if I'm like just feeling any kind of like anxiety or like can't sleep or just need like to feel like

posy. I love my husband, but it's not the same. I actually ask grandma to like snuggle me. That's cute. And like I imagine my grandma, because I used to sleep with my grandma all the time and the same bed all the time. And like I just, and she just like, like, grandma like spoons me and like holds me and I'm like, oh, and it makes me fun. Yeah. I just like an indica joint. That's so sweet. Same thing. Oh, I know, I ask grandma, every time I fly, I just keep, I keep it, keep it. I keep it, you know, really simple. Just keep me safe, Graham.

That's it. Oh. You know. You should do that when you're on the ground. You're probably not as safe. Take on the ground than you are there. Well, we loved having you guys on. Joey, I love seeing your face.

I hope I get to see her in person. Sooner and later. Yeah. Can you invite Hunter and I over and do our cards? Yes. Yes. I would love it. Pack it.

I'll bring the snag her. I'll get your number from, I'll get your number. I'll figure it out. I don't think I still have your number. You know, I think I have, my number hasn't changed. Okay, then I do have your number. Okay, great.

Okay. Thank you guys so much for having us. Thank you guys. Thank you so much for having us. You guys are the best. And you guys crack us up. You're hilarious. I love this too.

We love doing it. We love each other sometimes. Yeah. Most of the time. Most of the time. Well, thank you so much. Thank you guys. Have them.

Bye. So cute. Oh, no. There we are. Here we are. This is, monitors are weird. Yeah, let's talk to it though. I think you get used to it though after a while.

Yeah. After a while you get, oh. Oh, no. You get used to. Oh, there we're back. Oh, here we go back. Hi, Oliver. How are you?

You get used to it after a while. Yeah. No, I know. The problem is when it's right there, I'm like, you like, do it look okay? No, I know. I'm looking at my shoulders. I'm like, hmm, should I've worn those blouse?

I'm looking at my crazy shirt. Do you like my Stella McCartney's shoes? I do. I do. Do you like my Tombolo shirt? I do. Oliver, how well do you remember the Kings right after we got off? I think I'll do well on this one.

Okay. What? What's their age difference between the two girls? Six and half years. Good. Where are they born and raised? They were born to see me valley. California. Nice. Where,

who was the first one to get a job? Joey. Oh, Kelly. Kelly. Kelly was acting first. Yeah. What did she look like when she was little? She had freckles in these really cool, curly, dark hair, brown hair, you know? Cute. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She was so cute. What movie did Joey and I do together? You did wish I was here?

What did she do in that movie that was crazy, even though we didn't talk about it in the I don't know, pooped. On the floor? I don't know. I didn't see it. She shaved her head. Oh, she did. She also shaved her head.

She also shaved her head in the act. She loves to shave her head. I don't know she should have talked to. No, I don't think she did shave her head in that. Was not the act? Oh, dark night. She shaved her head in another movie. I don't know.

Okay. But she definitely first shaved her head in our movie. Yeah. So we were the first. Where did Hunter get married? Huskiny. Mm-hmm. How many people order a wedding? 35.

How many people were at Joey's wedding? 115. Where did she get married? My arcca. Woo! That's so funny. Bye. See ya.

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