Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - This is Rob Riggle

Episode Date: October 27, 2026

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Listen to Heavyweight on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling rivalry.

Just when you see a hot girl, you're like, it's awesome, right? Yeah. Hot guy. Like, okay, it's awesome. But like, is it a little too manicured? Like, is he trying too hard? Like a Brad Pitt though, is not me. Yeah, hot guy.

That kind of hot guy. Johnny Depp. Needed. Needed. Needed. 90s. Johnny Deft. Needed.

Trial Johnny Deff. We. Confusion. Charlie Hunnam. Hot. Hot. Hot. need hotness in the world. It's important.

Yeah. It's like I feel like we give it. There's like, oh, it's so hot, it's so easy to be hot. It's like, no. No, there aren't that many really hot people in the world. Think about it. Like, think about our in the 90s, right? You got Tommy and Catan. Hold on. What? I think Rob Regals here. Hey, guys. Hey, man. Hey. Couldn't help over hear the hot conversation. Hi. You want to wait. I feel like you, I'm here on the right day. Yeah, yeah.

I think the world. I think you're hot. Rob's hot. I've known Rob for a long time now. And we saw him at the bottom of the stairs like, you look, you look fucking good. Thank you. I'll take that. Essentially coming from the Hudson Express.

Yes. I will take that all day. I feel like, yeah, let's lean back into, let's lean back in to vanity and. And just being hot. Yeah. You know, yeah. You know what, maybe? Because everyone,

it's also personality for these days. Right. So personally forward, like, oh, it's the beholder. Yeah, okay. But there's still somebody to be said for. And isn't there like a hot girl summer thing? Is that a thing? Is that a thing?

That's a vibe. That's an energy. Well, we're heading to the fall. Yeah. Oh, you're a hot. Let's mix it up. Let's start. Like a cider.

Like a little hot. The smoky smell of burning leaves and a little cider. A little pumpkin spice. A Norwegian turtleneck. What I'm talking about her. Norwegian turtle neck. One more question. If you are not a hot girl, can you still have a hot girl summer?

Oh, my God. Oliver, that's the most ridiculous, offensive thing. You could just say everybody can have a hot girl. First of all girls are hot. There's just some that are really hot. Okay, just like guys, some guys are, all guys are hot. All guys are hot. All guys are hot.

But there's some that are just like really hot. Hot. Yeah. And then there's. And then there's you guys. Exactly. Hot cider. Yeah.

Hot fall. I'll take hot cider. I'll take hot side. Oh, yeah. Come on. Well, we met, we met playing golf and immediately we were just like, dude, you're hot and I'm hot. You know what's funny? So we should probably.

That's where I was better. I was on putting green. I was like, this guy's hot too. We're talking about. Let's get paired up together. So we could both. Are you play with anybody today? Would you like to?

I was like, you're hot enough for me. What's weird is as you guys were talking about, we're talking about hot and fall, I'm looking at you. And you know that thing where they do like colors? Like what color are you? Like, oh, you're a warm spring.

Right. I think you guys are actually warm, your fall colors. You're also hot. You're autumn. You guys are hot. That's my favorite season. I'll take that all day. Is it really?

Well, the irony of that is we're literally wearing kind of the same clothes. I mean, it's just variation. Blue, blue shoes, blue shirts. It's something's happening here. God, I needed this interview. I needed to get this off my chest. But we did meet playing golf. Yes.

Rob's been a friend of mine on the golf course. I've been to your golf tournament, which is an amazing golf tournament. It does incredible things for vets, right? Yeah, yeah. And then Paa played in the... Rider Cup. Well, he was going to tell me the story. And I was like, no, wait, save it.

Because I was like, how do you know Ollie? Yes. How do you know Oliver? First of all, Paul and the Rider Cup thing. Yeah. He's so jacked up. He was so jacked up. It was a very cool thing.

As a golfer, you know that that's a very rare opportunity. So it was very cool. And then, of course, I've been a fan of Kurtz my whole life. So all of a sudden, I find out I'm getting paired up with him for the day. I was like, oh, my God, oh, my God. This is going to be amazing. And our team, you know, it was American celebrities against European celebrities.

And our team had Bill Murray, Kiwi Lewis. I'm drawing a complete blank. And I'm really embarrassed. The greatest swimmer of all time. Oh, my Michael. Phelps. Yeah, yeah.

Phelps was there. Yeah. It was a two-man scramble, which means, you know, you both play the best ball, right? You both shoot and you play the best ball. We got teamed up against these European soccer studs, right?

Like Del Piro, this Italian soccer stud. Yeah. some Ukrainian guy Chichinko, I don't know, but we got teamed up against them. And they were both single-digit handicaps between their very good golfers. And your dad and I, or you know, Paul and I were, we were 12. We were about that. So we figured we had been thrown to the wolves, right? We were the sacrificial team.

Yeah. And we were so satisfying. Oh, yeah. Pots still talks about making these pots is what it felt like. And we came to naked. Like every time I would chunk one or blade one or. screw up, he would smoke it. And then every time he screwed up, I would drop it.

Yeah. Oh, fun. We're killing it. How was that first tea shot with like 40,000 people? It was the most nerve-wracking thing I've ever done. My hands were shit when I was trying to put the ball into the on the tea. And I was so embarrassed that my hands were shaking as bad as they were that I just kind of left it. I tried to get my hand away because I kept knocking it off when my hands were.

So I just went like that and left. It was way teed up way too high. I don't care. I can't go back there. I'll swing up on it. In the last two years, I've been really getting into golf. Oh, good. I have this weird vision of getting so good at golf that I could actually be a female celebrity on

some of these teams. Yes. And, like, kind of like, and then I thought, and then I thought, why not, like, then get really good at it and then go to the LPGA and do, like, a female celebrity tournament. I have all of these, like, weird golf dreams in my head for, because I just think it's one of the greatest sports ever. Let me introduce you to my girlfriend. who was on the symmetrical

LPGA. Okay. She can teach. Yes, I'm down. She will teach you. She's a great teacher. I love, yes, please, please, please. Because I really...

She's from Poland, uh, K. Yeah. We've got Ronnie swinging the golf club. We've got all the kids are golfing. Like, we're in, we love it. It is. It's a great way to spend four hours. As long as you can sort of manage your expectations of who you are.

Right. Because we all think we're way better than we are. And we're all these amateurs. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I just remind you something. We're just starting. My kids are obsessed and they're like, play eight holes.

Like, I'm done. I'm done. I'm leaving. I'm like, wilder, you're staying. You're staying. I was like, who do you think you are, dude? You've been playing for eight months. That's it.

Like, what are you expecting here? You have to finish out, too. But you are a good golfer. Yes. I have played with you and I have been amazed every time because you just smuggled. We played the crew cup together. Yeah. And you were amazing.

Like, you just can. It's fun to watch you golf. It really is. You're a very good golf. How did you get into golf? I just. How old were you? I think I was 13.

I had my mom had a set of Paddyberg clubs with they had leather grips and wood, actual wood. But they were my size. They were, you know, because they were made for a woman. So they were kind of tiny. I played with those until I was in college. Oh, my God. And there was a driving range out on college Boulevard. And I would go out there and I would hit golf balls.

I would mow lawns. Well, lawns. Where are you from? Kansas City. Oh, so you're a Kansas City cheese fan. A big time. Oh, yeah, that's right, because you went to the wedding, too. Okay, we'll get to that.

Okay. No, no, we're not to talk about it. So 18 NDAs. They actually have this dick in a box. Like, you're going to cut your dick on. And I believe them. Yeah. They're real hot like that.

But I used to mow lawns, the neighbors, the Johnsons. I used to mow their lawn. They would pay me $15. I could take that $15. bucks. It was always in a check so my mom had to go cash it for me. And then I'd have the cash. And it cost $10 to play and $5 would get me a Pib and a hot dog at the turn. And so I would mow the lawn and go play golf. So great. Once a week. That was mine. That's the best. So great. All right. There's so much to talk about, but let's start with the beginning. Growing up, Kansas City,

brother's sisters. I have a sister, one sister. She's a little older than me and a very accomplished lawyer in Kansas City. And she's done very well. She's quite awesome. And what was the family dynamic like just generally you being sort of an artist, an actor, amongst many other things? But was it free-spirited and fun?

Was there creativity in your life a little more rigid? My, I had two, I still have my father. My mom has passed, but I had two very funny parents who, they love to laugh. they just were great. They were natural storytellers. My dad would entertain us on road trips.

He would tell stories about Albert and Alice. Let me tell you about Albert and which were made up, but it was basically me and my sister, my sister, Julia, and I. And he would talk about this wonderful father who worked so hard to provide, you know, and then his terrible kids, Albert and Alice, you know, and then he would,

and we would die laughing and we'd beg him for these stories. And he would just keep talking and telling us stories. And my mom was very naturally witty. And they had a little lakehouse with my uncle or whatever. And so my cousins and my sister and I, we would put on shows. My job was to come out and just dance. Like a dancing monkey, I'd come out and dance while the girls ran back and changed

outfits to come out and do the next sketch. Oh, my God. So I was like intermission dancer, right? And so I'd come out and I'd do whatever goofy dance I could. And the adults would be like, you know, and I'd just dance like it. And then I'd run off and the girls come back on and that kind of stuff, right? And then we'd pass the hat. We would pass the hat and they'd put in a dollar, nickels, quarters.

Back then that meant something. Yeah. And we would do that every weekend. And then at the end of the summer, we'd go down to a dog patch down at Bagnall Dam. And water slides, go carts, mini golf, taffy, you know, all the stuff, right? And we'd blow our wad. It's so great. And it was the big day.

You know, the big, we work all summer for it, you know, and it was, it was a blast. No, I know. It sounds like an idyllic childhood. It's pretty good. Yeah. It wasn't bad. Kansas City is a cool place. So you didn't need therapy or anything.

Let me talk about my adult life. We'll get there. What was the first time you saw maybe a comedian or someone that you went, oh, I have to do that? I saw Eddie Murphy delirious. Yeah. And I was. in junior high, I think. And then I was pretty much a child of the 80s and 90s.

So all the comedies of the 80s, that's all I cared about. And I could quote all of them, stripes, caddyshack, meatballs, three Amigos, the three Amigos. I mean, go down the list of all the great comedies. Major League. Yes. And I could quote them, and I loved them. I just chapter and verse.

But then when I got, I didn't think any of that was real. And I was more, you know, Midwestern athlete type, you know, that's what I, you know, and that's fine. But I was funny. I could make people laugh. I could tell stories. And I think it came from, you know, my family was a great storyteller. Then I was on the radio and television station in my high school. And that was fun.

I used to get so much trouble doing that. Yeah. My God, because it wasn't like we were on the airwaves, right? It pumped from the DJ booth straight down to the cafeteria. Yeah. And we had three lunches. Oh, my God. We had three lunches.

So first lunch, you know, you had about, you know, 500 kids in there. Second lunch, same thing. Third lunch, same thing. So you're just saying all kinds of stuff. So I would be like, hey, everybody, you know, DJ, whatever. You know, like strict orders, read the announcements. Don't read the backside because that was all the teacher absences and what was going on. So, of course, I'd be like, oh, Mr. Minster's gone again today.

I wonder where he is. You know, he's probably got a hangover, you know, all this stuff. And then one of my favorite games to play was, uh, whoops, the microphone's still on. So I would turn the master volume up on the microphone. And I'd go, you know, announce more Night Ranger, you know, and put on. And so it would start off. And then I'd go, oh, I'm so glad that fucking shit's over with. And I keep talking into the microphone, but cussing, saying terrible things.

And I could hear Ms. McNamara, our teacher, I could hear her heels clicking down the hallway, screaming, the mics on, the mic's on. And she comes and she go, guys, guys, the mic's on. We go, huh? Oh, my God. And we, oh, God, we're so sorry. She goes, guys, you've got to be careful. We've got to be more careful.

We're like, we are so sorry. This went on for almost two years. Oh, my God. She didn't catch up on it. She never caught on. She probably knew. Maybe. She probably deep down was like,

I was thinking about as you guys. I was thinking about as you're saying that because I feel like there's kids don't get enough leeway to be naughty. You know? Not anymore. No. And I think there's a, obviously, line. But like, you know, something like that, kids would get in so much trouble in school today.

Now that they'd involve lawyers now. No, I know. It gets crazy. You're like, do you raise your kids with that in mind of trying to let them be free? Yes, as much as I could. Yeah. Yeah. But at the same time, I'm, you know, I think it's, it's human nature to want to protect your kids for, if you see them walking into a doorway, you go, stop. Of course. You know, you can't help yourself. But what we can't do is, You said stop. Mine's like, stop. Right, right, right. Somebody removed the door.

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But the military, how did this come about in your life? You know what I mean? It's a choice, obviously, right? Yeah. I was in college at the University of Kansas, and I didn't think a life in the arts was possible. You remember? This is the late 80s, early 90s, and I'm sitting here thinking, you know, this is pre-internet. That's oh, oh, boy.

Right. So it just, you didn't feel connected to the world. So I just didn't think, you know, I'm not going to get on a bus, go out to L.A. and try to chase my dream. So I just didn't, it wasn't, it didn't feel real. My parents were gracious enough to pay for my college. So I felt that Midwestern thing where I'm like, well, they're paying for my job. I better get a job.

I better get to do this. So then I was like, well, what do I want to do? And nothing. Nothing came to mind. I mean nothing. So I was like, well, maybe, I thought maybe an FBI agent. I don't know. That sounded cool.

Maybe stopping bad guys and bank robbers and, you know, I think point. break, it just came out. It was like, maybe something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sexy. Yeah. So, uh, this is back in the day, I had to, you, there was no internet. I called the FBI, because you called people back then.

I called the FBI branch in Kansas City. You like, what's up? I was like, hey, hey, player. But I said, can I speak to someone? And they put me on the phone with some, like a recruiter. A special agent in the field office. Yeah. And I said, I'm sorry about you, but, um, I'm trying to figure out.

like, how does one get in the FBI, you know? What do you guys look for? They go, oh, we love lawyers and accountants. We need a lot of those. No. Because they do all white collar crime. I didn't realize all this. Yeah.

And I said, yeah, what else you got? And they said, well, we love Marine officers. I don't know why. It's just disproportionate, but we hire a lot of them. I thought, okay, well, and I knew a couple guys that were going through the program in college. So I went and asked them about it, and they were very gung-ho about it. And then I took a test to get a,

air contract, aviation contract, and I had my pilot's license. So I figured, yeah, so I figured, let's do this. So I got, I took the test. It got, did well, went through officer candidate school while I was in, in college. And then when I, the good thing about it was when I graduated, I had the choice of taking my commission or not. Right. I didn't owe them anything because I didn't take any money from them.

Got it. I wasn't on rot or rotsey or anything like that. I went through the PLC program. So, but I decided I wanted to do that. Yeah. That's how I went down that path. I had a deep sense of patriotism. Yeah, yeah.

I wanted to. Yeah. And then how long were you in the Marines? The Marines. Yeah, Marines. Well, then 9-11 happens. Yeah, I was in for a total of 23 years. Oh, wow.

I retired as a lieutenant colonel. Oh, my gosh. But I was nine years. Thank you for your service. Well, thank you. I was in for nine years active duty and then 14 in the reserves. Mm-hmm. And so I had just left active.

duty. I was in New York City. I was studying at the UCB. Amy Polan was my teacher. Wow. And Matt Walsh and Matt Besser and Ian Roberts and wonderful teachers. And I was doing shows. I was doing tech and, you know, light and sound for other people's shows. And I was loving life. I was having time of my life. And I just left active. I joined a reserve unit there in Manhattan. and 9-11 happen. Wow. So my reserve unit gets called up. I have a,

uh, I worked on the rebel piles from September 12th to the 18th, 12 hours on, 12 hours off, 12 hours on, 12 hours off, just moving rubble by hand. And then after the 18th, I think they declared it no longer search and rescue was search and recovery. It was six stories of rubble. So you couldn't,

you couldn't bring in heavy equipment because they were afraid of cave-ins. We didn't know if anybody was still down it. Mm-hmm. So after the 18th, they could bring in heavy stuff. So I got pulled off the piles and put in one police plaza and I worked out of there coordinating military civilian efforts. I was a captain at the time. I had a green badge, which is unusual for my job. Green badge is a top secret with a skiff clearance.

So I had a pretty high security clearance. And I knew they were going to need people. Clearly we were going to war. Yeah. So I volunteered to go back on active duty. I got picked up on November 10th. What did Paul her say? Good luck.

She was on SNL at the time. Oh, right. It was her first year on SNL. So she had literally, they were getting ready to start. It happened. Then they ended up postponing their season start, you know, launch. So it was her first season on the show. So, you know, it was a screwy world.

Yeah. But I ended up on November 10th, it was the Marine Corps birthday. I got orders to go. be recalled. I got sent to Central Command down in Tampa. I reported November 17th. So I got my orders on the 10th, reported on the 17th. And by the 28th of November, I was in Afghanistan. So it was like, Bing, Bang, Boom. What does that look like, Civil Affairs, Public Affairs? Public Affairs is dealing with the media. Yeah. Civil Affairs is dealing with the population. Okay. So I would go out and talk to, there wasn't much.

media to deal with. So I would go out and deal mainly with the community leaders in Masari Sharia. Okay. They were basically three warlords. Yeah. Boa Keck, Ata, and Dostom. Right. And they ran the Northern Alliance. It was a very... And you were personal with them. Like they were part of the... Yeah, I would go out and we'd find local mullahs. We'd find local leaders. Yeah. And we'd say, how can we help you? What do you need? You know, we were thinking about maybe we could help you with some drainage ditches or your road needs grading or maybe we could give you some chalkboards for the school or, you know,

things like that. And then, by the way, have you seen any Taliban? Right, right. And then they'd say, oh, yes, yeah, my neighbor's Taliban. Yeah, you're like, really? Or check that out. Talk to the neighbor. Oh, yes.

I know where the Taliban is. He's my neighbor. Right. They just wanted each other's land. Yeah. It's a weird question, actually, because you, you're, you know, the essence of you is based in sort of humor. But when you're over there and you're communicating,

probably through a translator, I would assume. I had a great translator. But is there humor, meaning like, can you get on with some of these warlords? We're like, you know what I mean? You know what I mean? Yes, but in a different, they're not down for a good bit. No. You weren't doing intermission dancing?

No, no. No. No. No more than it crossed my mind. You got like, what? Actually, they were like, yes. More. Doing it more.

It's more. But just there was no, as far as rapport goes, you know, was... They were, they were hard men. Yeah. They had been fighting the Soviets for 25 years. Now they were fighting the Taliban for another. They didn't know anything different than war in fighting. So they were hard, hard men.

And they, you know, laughter and joy was not part of their thing. They got it. Yeah. I did get a bear hug from General Dostom. And when it was over, I went back to New York and kind of went back to work

just kind of went back to doing shows with Respecto Matamon, my improv troupe. Oh my God. And then you started your journey of 150 IMDB. Yes. All of it. He credits.

He has 150 IUDB. Well, you see him and everything. Every real Instagram route, I mean, basically Riggle is my algorithm. I see his bloopers all the time with all the... What an amazing. amazing life story. What was the back?

But it was about a year after I got back, it was a year after I got back, I got an S&L audition. Oh, right. That was the first thing. And then you got. Yeah. And I was so green.

When I think about how little I knew and how gung-ho and zesty I was, I was like, let's all work together as a team. Maybe we could meet afterward. We'll do some improv. And everyone's like, fuck off, right? Let's put it down. Slow your role, kid. And that lasted a year.

Yes. So what I mean, did, did they give you any reason? Yeah. Ken Among, who's one of the producers over there, was very, he was gracious enough to call me. Because, you know, they're very, they're just. Yeah. They're very, they do business different. Sure.

I'll put it that way. And he was kind of calling and say, hey, just so you know, you did everything right. Yeah. And I was like, oh, well, that makes, I can, that helps. Because I really, you're in the dark. I was the only guy hired that year at a cast of 15. Yeah. So normally, I even asked Will Ferrell because he was a guest host.

And, you know, he was in my office and I was pitching my ideas. And I said, hey, you got any advice for a new guy or whatever? He goes, oh, you kind of fucked. I go, what? I go, that's not what I want to hear. And he goes, well, he goes, look, he goes, when I was hired, you know, the cast was 12 and they hired six of us. They had to use us every week, whether they liked us or not. We were getting up there and we were doing our thing.

We got to put character because you're the only guy in your freshman class there. You're the only guy. And the cast is, you know, deep. It's a deep bench, you know. And I still made every show. You did? I did. I made every show, which I was very happy about.

I think one show I got cut in dress and then I didn't actually make air. Right. I know exactly what was Paul Gianmani show. Anyway. But I got. characters on. I got sketches on. I did. So fun. I talked to like David Speed one time and he was like, shit, by anybody's standard, you had a good first year. Yeah. But what happened was it was an election year. It was Kerry and Bush. And Will Ferrell was gone. So his Bush was gone. And what year was that?

2004. 2004. And so nobody cared about the election. Well, normally, S&L gets a big, ratings bump on an election year because everybody tunes in to see the coverage, right? Well, nobody cared about the election that year. The elections sucked. The personalities weren't any good, whatever it was. So they didn't get the big bump. So all the NBC executives panicked. And they were like, clean house.

Clean house. It's the cast. It's not America. It's the cast. And so the last one in, first one out. Yeah. And which, you know, I was crushed. I'm not going to lie.

I was so sad about it. Oh, because it's like a dream. I had dreamed about it. Oh. Well, you want to hear the, I'll give you the Oprah story. Yeah. If you really want to know. Yes.

So I'll make it the Reader's Digest version of this because I don't want to pour you guys to death. I'm in flight school down to Corpus Christi, Texas. Fly on T-34's, you know, working towards getting my wings. I realize if I pin those wings on, they own me for eight years, I'm going to be like, oh, my guys. Basically, I'm looking at a lifetime of active duty. Like, this is going to be my life. I'm going to pilot in the Marines forever. Yeah.

And that's that. And I was like, oh, well, what I think. I think I want to be an actor. I think I want to be a comedian. Now, I had never told anybody that because it was a secret that I just kind of kept to myself

because I didn't believe in it. I didn't think it was real and no one would believe me. It'd be like right now if I went to my friends and family and said, I think I want to be a rapper. Right.

I'd like, good luck with that. Right. Because it just didn't seem real. So I had this quarter life crisis where I'm at the crossroads, quite literally. I either keep going or I stop. I quit.

And I had quit anything in my life up to that point. So I was not, it was not sitting well. And back then you could drive onto the beach in Corpus Christi. So I drove my little second lieutenant mobile onto the beach. It was a floor explorer. I popped the back and I sat there with my book. I was reading this book at the time, Tony Robbins,

Alton Unlimited Power. I'll tell you what it was. And I was praying and I was writing in the back of it. I was trying to figure out what I'm going to do. And I finally came to the decision. I was like, I'm not going to fly anymore. I'm going to try to be an actor and a comedian. I knew nobody in show business.

I didn't, I mean, Corpus Christi, Texas, I'm in the Marines. I'm in flight school. Like how? I don't, there's no possible way to get there. I just knew what I wanted. So I wrote down in the book. If I quit, because I wasn't sitting well with me, if I quit, it's got to count. So what am I going to do? What am I going to do? So I wrote down in the back of that book, I wrote, number one, I'm going to get on Saturday a lot. Wow. That was in 1994. Wow. Awesome. In 2004, 10 years almost to the day, I wrote that. 10 years almost to the day. I got a call from Lauren Michaels asking me to join Saturday. That's crazy.

Wow. There is something about manifestation. There is something about saying it out loud. There is something about committing to it, writing it down and making it a thing. Yeah. There is something to that. Now, it took me 10 years. Sure.

Took me a marriage, a child, multiple jobs. Yeah. A lot of, a lot of go away. Yep. And I almost quit the business several times. You did. Oh, my God. I'll never forget.

Even before us, you know. Yes. Yes. Yeah. I mean, right up to, I think it's always darkest before the dawn. I really believe that because I really, I was broken. My soul was broken. I had been rejected a thousand times for everything, everything.

And the last one that got me was a guy, I went to a cattle call commercial for a, a cattle call for a commercial. In Manhattan, I had to take two trains. I had to take the six down to the shuttle and then the nine down. I'd do it in a suit. in the pouring rain. I got wet. It's stunk. I go down to this catacall.

I go in. It's finally my turn to go in. It's a couple cameras. And the lady goes, go. I go, I'm jelling. Are you jellin? You were doing me jellin? No, jellin.

No, Jellin. I love that. I'm jellin. Are you jellin? All right, thank you. I walk out. I'm like, I was wet, mad. I get a call.

Hey, we like you. They like you. They want you to come. back tomorrow. I'm like, okay. I go back. Same thing. I'm jelling. You jelling for three trains. I have to go back. Hey, we like you. They really like you. They want you back for a third. I go, come on. Yeah. You know, and they go, hey, they pay you on the third audition. I was like, well, why do they pay? 75 bucks. I was like, that's not even covered the dry cleaning on this suit. That stinks so bad. I don't want to put it back on, but I was okay. So I put it back on. Go down.

I'm jelling. Are you jellin? Thanks. Goodbye. Fourth day, they call and they go, they go, all right. You're down to the finals. It's just you and a handful of dudes. They want you back. Go. I go down there.

It's me and two other guys. They don't look anything like me. I go in. I think, okay, here we go. And now the room is full. You got the ad agency. You got the Dr. Scholes people.

You got some strap hangers. There's 30 people in the room. I'm jelling. Are you jelling? They go, they all go. Rob, that was fantastic. We were wondering, could you say it like you're surprised? Yes, I could do that.

I go, I'm jelling. Are you jellin? Are you jellin? They go, they go, murmur, merm, heads turning. Everybody's doing this thing. They go, that was, that was, we. That was, would you do one, just humorous, like, but very coming at me, you know, give me the direct version.

I was like, yep, I'm jellin. Are you jellin? They're like, whoa. You saw it. You saw it. This went on. This went on. This went on.

They're whispering and you're like, I think he's jealous. I felt like he was jealous. I felt like he was jealous. And while they're talking, I feel my, he's a jealous. I feel my soul draining out of my body.

And now I'm standing outside my body going, quit, quit. Yeah. I leave. I don't get the part. No. No. Of course not.

Of course. I was so jealous. You were so jellin. You were too jellin. So I honestly, though, that night, I'll never forget it. They called and said, I'm sorry. They went the, they went a different way. I said, I played cool on the phone.

I hung up. I mean it. I lost it. I was like, fuck this business. People. Everybody. You know, I hate this. I hate this.

I hate New York. I mean, I was just, anybody in my path was getting a taste. Thank God, nobody was in my path. That was a little good. But I just, I just, I just, I just, I just. I quit. I quit here. I quit there. Everybody can pound sand. I got a nice corporate offer. They want me to move to Richmond, Virginia. I want to make a ton of money. I'll join a country club, play golf, whenever I want to play. I had it all worked out. I went to bed. I woke up the next morning and go,

I better, I better try again. You know, but I did break. It's amazing story. And had I, anybody offered me a car out of that town that night, I probably would have taken. But like you said, you also just don't quit. I'm Hamza. And I'm Martin. And we're the hosts of out of character. It's a podcast, I know. There's a lot of them to listen to these days. How are you going to get to us? Well, there's a specific reason why you should listen to us. We are the best podcast in the entire world, I swear.

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Real quick, what was like the breakout, meaning because we see you in everything now, your funny shit. Obviously, your improv is like A plus. You've got three movies coming out. You've got three movies coming out. You know, like you're always working now. I know as an actor, you always don't think you're ever going to work again. That's the truth.

Yeah, I mean, but what was the point where you're like, oh, shit, like, I'm, I'm, I still don't feel that. I don't feel that. I don't feel that. I don't feel that I'm here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I'll always be grateful for Java. I still, I say yes to things that I probably should say yes to.

It's just in my DNA to go, yes. Yeah, yeah. Sure. What do you want to do? What do you want to do? Right. Because I remember the jelling. Yeah, you remember jelling days.

No, I know. And it's hard to shake that, you know. What was the one? What was the, what was the audition? What was the movie or TV show? Because you've worked with McBride a bunch, right, as well. I think step brothers. Step brothers.

Probably. That was it. I got a lot of, I got a lot of recognition probably for the daily show. Yeah. Oh, the daily show. Oh, that's right. Right. Right.

You were corresponding. The new girl. Max with Max. New girl. New girl got to be Big Schmidt. Yeah. And then, but the hangover got, you know, that kind of has something. Yeah.

That got a little buzz going. But then Stepbrothers, when I got to work with McKay and Farrell, those guys are right. I love improv. They love it too. So they allowed a lot of play. Yeah. A lot of play, which was right up my, right in my wheelhouse. Plus, Will is such a gracious actor and comedian that if you start a bit with him and he's

the straight guy, he'll play the straight guy and he'll play it beautifully. And then he allows you to be the off color, off-doll. When I hear that, it makes me so happy because I feel like you can't, it's like when two people are trying to like be the funny guy. Yeah, trying to top each other. And you're just like, this is exhausted. It is. Talking each other doesn't work. Charles Groton was like the greatest straight man of all time.

Yeah. You know, back in like the 80s. Yeah. You know, to me, I'd watch him and just be like, oh, like every comedian needs that guy. Yes. You know? I think Bateman and the rest of development. Oh, yeah.

Maybe one of the best. Yeah, yeah. Amazing. It's funny as hell. Yeah. He's a great straight man. He's a great. So you did GCB.

Yeah. Ryder, my son's about to start to. Oh, good. Yeah, he wants to go do that. I love it. I taught there. Yeah. I took classes there.

I'm still, I still perform at Largo. Yeah. With Paul Shear, Rob Hubel, Jason Manzukas. And now we're like once a left. It's so good for your, it's so, such a good muscle. Oh, it's so fun to play with people you know and trust and love. Yeah. And because I love what every, they get me every time.

Yeah. So, is there anything you want to do? Is there anything that like, you know, you, how you want to kind of stretch yourself as like a creator? Well, these three movies that you mentioned. So they're, they're, there's, actually, there's four movies I have coming out between now and November four. I'm in a, but it's. Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah. But there. There's two. Five. All right, man. Take it easy. All right. All right.

I have two horrors. Zero. And two dramas. Yeah. Which not necessarily what I do. It's fun for actors, as you know, we have a palette here. Yeah. And they only let us usually color with a couple that they've seen.

They don't let us do the other colors. But I'm like, there's other colors on this. Let me show you. The horror must be fun too. Let me show you. And so it's fun to do drama. Yeah. It's fun to do these things that you don't normally get to do.

I love it. That's why I love acting so much and I love comedy so much. And if I can put those two together, great. But I also, let me do some dramas. I love it. It's a whole world. It's a whole muscle. It's a whole thing that, you know.

Did you cry? You have to have to emode at certain points if it calls. So you cried. Yeah. You cried. You cried. I can't wait to see you crying. What were you thinking about?

What were you thinking about when you were. For all the right reasons. Right? Yeah. Were you thinking about, were you in the scene thinking about like with the actual scene? Or were you like thinking about some other shit to make you cry? Doing the old method substitution. Right. Substitution. No, I didn't do a substitution. I tried to be as present as possible. But substitution is a great technique. I did study the method with Marsha Halfrecht in New York for three years. And I thought it was fine. I also studied Atlantic City or the Atlantic Theatre Company. I thought that you did so much. With Mamet. His technique. I like his. Because his was more take the screen, see what's going on, answer the questions and then go. Yeah. And be truthful. I was like, oh, that kind of resonates more. The other was more, you know, sense memory.

and all that. Great. But it's like a salad bar to me. You can take a little bit. That's right. It works differently for everybody. I took an audition class that I still, I use some stuff from that, you know? Like there's, I think you have to.

Yeah. See it taste at all. And then like a salad bar, just pick and choose. Yeah. I agree. I agree. And then, and honestly, it continues to shift. It's so fun about what we do.

Yeah. Is that like it's always changing. Yeah. You learn something new and you, you know, and then something that you used to do doesn't work as much anymore. You know, it's like constantly like a new, you know, you create your own. And I also like hanging out with actors and comedians because you do sit down every now and then without getting too deep in the weeds, you'll talk about what you do.

And every now and then, I'll have someone hit me with a piece of gold. Yeah. And I'm like, oh my God. You don't even realize what you just gave me. I'm taking that with me for the rest of my moment. And by the way, we do because we love being a story. We're like our own weird little storyteller. You know, I think there's a couple different kinds of actors, like when you work with people,

there's ones who when they're in it, they're really like facilitating the story, you know, that they're, the way they're, the way they like to be a part of the team is to facilitate the story more than the kid, their own, even their own character. Then there's some who are so wrapped up in their character that sometimes it's hard to facilitate the story because there, it doesn't feel true to them. And both are good. And everyone has different ways of like, they each other place. Everybody, it all has its place. I got corrected one time by Michael Keaton.

Ooh. And I deserved it. Yeah. And it stays with me to this day. Well, we were doing the other guys. And I was complaining about I had an audition later in the day. And I'm not great at audition. I wasn't at that.

I wasn't comfortable. I just hated it. I hate it too. And so I was like, I got this. I was bitching about it. Mm-hmm. And I was kind of making life. I was like, oh, I got to go do that actor thing, you know, whatever.

And I don't know, because it was a drama. Mm-hmm. and he just put his foot down. I was like, stop. Don't do that. Don't make it little. Don't make it small what we do. And kind of,

give me a little chest. And I was like, I took it because, you know, he's wise. So I took the correction. And I kind of was really glad because I changed my attitude.

I walked into that audition later that day with a little different attitude about it. And you cared more. And I did care more. And I did respect it more. That's right. I respected it more. That made me.

That made me kind of lift my head up. It does because for some reason there's this sort of shame. I think men have it probably more than women do. There's a shame behind maybe like, you know, emoting what it is to be an actor. That there's, you know, like it's easy to act. It's this is like, you know. And so you sort of kind of come at it like, you know, oh, you know, look what we do. Yeah.

You know, but the reality is it seeks a lot of work and a lot of discipline and a lot of care. and a lot of nuance and intelligence. I think that's what it is. I think I was doing that disassociation from it so that I could protect myself. So that when it didn't go well, I'd be like, whatever. Right, exactly. I didn't try that. Yeah, exactly.

What do I carry it? Yeah. Instead of like, I put it all hard into this. Yeah, instead of embracing and saying, all right, I'm going to go in there and really give it my best. I'm going to really try here. Do you mind staying while we just wrap up? Okay.

I was Rob was I was Rob the best ever Yeah yeah no no he's the best No no I know I mean yeah They're the best this is gonna I'm like He was great he was great He was great I will say though He ate into our time a lot he talked He talked a ton because we had so much to get to

We hardly got to anything we were supposed to get to Yeah I don't even know his parents names. Well, but anyway. Oh, wait. Okay. Ready, speed round. Oh, speed round on what we remember from Rob Riggle.

Yes. What were the name of him and his sister in the story that the dad said? Jessica. Rob. Albert and Alice. Okay. Albert and Alice. Rob's here.

It's okay. I'll be here for one. Okay. Did you know it? No, I just wanted to do that. That was just my job. What was the year that Rob Riggle went into the army? Marines.

Okay. Okay. Marines. Marines. Marines. What was the year that Rob Riggle went to the Marines? 2,000. 99.

1990. Fuck. I was way out. I'm not listening. Wait, I don't think we said that, but the year was. I don't think we said with the year. 94 was something. Yeah, that was the year I decided I was going to leave high school.

Oh, right. Okay. Okay. Okay. What year? I love for Robb. We don't usually have it. Rob just staying for her.

That's great. I'm a phone of friend. I'm the phone of friend. Okay, wait. Yeah. Okay. What year was he on SNL? 2004.

Yes. That's right. Okay. That's right. Okay. What year was Rob Wrigal born? Well, we didn't discuss that. Take a guess.

Okay. Well, if he went into the Marines in 1990. I'm going to say, and he was trying to figure out what you do is, I think he had 90s 20, he had his pilot's license. I'm going to say that he is 1971. I was going to say 72. No one really knows for sure. But maybe.

Maybe the rumors hover around 70. Oh. Oh. See, we thought you were younger. Thank you. Okay. Okay. Next one is where did he, who taught his UCB class? Ann Poehler.

Okay. Okay. Do you think Rob Briggle is circumcised? A thousand percent. A thousand and one. Perfect. Thank you. We didn't need time to drill down on that last one, but we should.

Well, you're going to come back. Okay, good, good. That'll be pointed out. Yeah, yeah. Because as I remember correctly, it was an adult circumstance. Oh, my God. Cut. Bloomberg's Big Take podcast has everything you need to know about the most expensive midterms in U.S. history, like the money being spent to control the Senate.

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