Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - This is Us: Mandy Moore, Sterling K. Brown, and Chris Sullivan

Episode Date: August 12, 2024

The stars of NBC's Emmy-Winning hit 'This is Us' join Kate and Oliver for a sibling reunion years after the finale.Find out what happened on the show that prepared Mandy Moore for motherhood? Were there behind the scenes feuds between this famous TV family?And wait until you hear the shocking revelation from Oliver about his ties to the show, and his major regret!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And would it's like to be siblings? We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling Revolery.

Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling Revely. That's good. Oliver Hudson. I'm excited for this episode because I have worked with one of these people that we're talking very intimately. Yes. And I was a fan of this show. yeah i honestly i'd never seen it but i have a story to tell okay that i'm not going to tell now i know

the story i think i know the story to tell right i'm probably going to i'm probably going to tell it right off the bat just to let everyone understand what they missed out on no i think you just gave the story away no not really we have cast members of this is us they have a new podcast called that was that that that was us it's where they sort of rewatched the watch and talk about, which I think would be actually really interesting for people who love that show because there's so much stuff, you know, and they really just loved each other. So it's Mandy Moore, it's Chris Sullivan, who plays the brother-in-law, and he has such an amazing storyline. I just loved him. I mean, Mandy obviously got to work with everybody. He had an amazing

storyline, and Sterling Kay Brown, who everyone knows, one of them. I mean, just incredible. And Sterling will be joining us. They're like, wait, should we just? Yeah, just bring them in. Let's go. They need to, they need to. They're waiting. They need to hear something from me.

This is so much fun. I'm so happy you guys could join us. Thank you for having us. We appreciate it. I know. I'm surprised you guys agreed to do this. Wait, why? I don't know.

You guys are busy schedule. You guys are busy schedule. You guys were big time, all three at the same time. I mean, it just seemed to work out, you know, stupendously. I didn't think this would happen. It's all good. Actually, you guys, the last time I saw Sterling, we were both shooting, you were shooting. That's right.

And we were shooting at the same time on the same lot. They're on the Pantmont lot doing Truth Be Told. Uh-huh. Yeah. And you guys were shooting what season? It was the last season, wasn't it? It may have been the last season. Before we get started, are you guys working right now?

I know you've won awards, Sterling. Everyone's won awards and shit. But is everyone working right now? Who's working? Mandy Moore's working on half a baby. Yeah. No way. No working.

Are we all unemployed? Sterling's employed. I'm recently amongst the cyclically unemployed. I just finished doing reshoots on something and no-discocious. So now we're just imposed on that. So right now, I'm chilling. I've recently been re-employed, but I don't, start work until end of October.

So Mandy has a great excuse. She's creating life. Sterling, you won awards. Chris, you're going back to work. I haven't worked in almost two fucking years. Okay? Are you serious? Yeah.

This is why we had you on. Ollie just needs to talk about it. If anyone has a game, here's the thing. I'm more talented than the industry sort of gives me credit for it. I've been around for 25 years. I've been on my own TV shows. I've starred.

And, you know, I'm always working. created a light from myself. You should go on Sharpton and ask them for a hundred-and-fif. You should ask them, you should ask them to invest in you. Just to invest in me? Yeah. 10%. There it is.

10%. Are you trying to tell me that your company is worth $1.5 million? Right. That's my valuation. I am worth 1.5 million. That's not a bad idea. We'll raise it up. I got you back.

I'll be able to look at it. If I see anything that did. Okay, good. Well, actually, this segues into a great story as to probably why I don't work as much as I do. So I read the script for This Is Us. It's fucking amazing. You know, it's hard to read good scripts. I read it.

I was like, holy shit, this is great. And it was early on in pilot season. I remember it was like October or something. I was like, wow, this is early. Yeah. And it was like, it was almost, I was like, no, it would be October. And I was like, oh, my God, this is so good. and I went in and I read and it went well and I am a huge fisherman, big time.

I own my own boat. I go on these 10-day big fishing trips. Okay. And I had a 10-day trip plan to go catch big, big tuna in Mexico. You leave out of San Diego and you're gone for 10 days. Yeah. So I get the call that I am going to chemistry read with Mandy Moore. And I'm like, okay, cool, great.

Yeah. I was like, when is this? When is it? you're like, oh, it's like November 3rd or whatever. And I was like, oh, shit, I said to my age. And I'm like, I can't do that. And he's like, what do you mean? What do you fuck you're talking about?

I said, well, I have a fishing trip planned. And it's a big one. And I, this is what I have, my passion. And he's like, you're joking, right? Okay. So it's with Mandy Moore. And then, no, no, no, no, I'm like, no, no, I'm serious. Like, this is what I love.

It kind of explains everything. And so I'm literally on the boat. I'm on the boat. I remember. they were baiting up, getting bait on the boat. And I'm on the phone with my agent being like, I'm on the boat, dude. He goes, you're on the boat? He's like, and they made a testing deal even without me chemistry reading.

And I was like, you know, and then of course I fish. And I can, by the way, I do catch a 271 pound yellowfin tuna, which was my best fish ever. There you go. Then I get back. And of course, you know, it's the biggest show on television. And I'm like, man, there you go. Not to say I would have gotten a job, you know what I mean? But I missed the opportunity because I wanted to catch fish.

Let me ask you this, Oliver. What have you caught in the last two years? I bet you've caught some big ones. Yeah, I have. He's caught some big ones. I have. We all know we've had those opportunities that sort of collide with what we want to do with our lives. And you have to make a decision at a certain point.

Are you always going to put your life on hold for the pursuit of an opportunity? Or are you going to live your life and when the opportunities sink up with it? Then you say, like, okay, it was meant to be. You were meant to catch 271 pounds of fish. You know what I'm saying? And you didn't stop your life. And I actually find that if you are in a position where you can make that choice and be okay with it, I think that's a good place to be.

Yeah. No, it's true. Agreed. Without a doubt. Yeah, he's got to get there, though. Yeah. Being okay with it. Sure. No, I do. You're so correct. You know, and if I look back on what happened even after that, it would never be as good as if I was doing this as us. But it's, that is so wild. We could have been husband and wife. That's, that's, wow. You could have been my dad.

No, no, I could have been your dad. Of course, then you look at Milo and you're like, well, there's no one more perfect for the, for the role. You know what I mean? And it's funny watching, watching the show. You know, you always do that when you maybe audition for something and then you see how the other person had done that scene. Sure. You know, and he was more serious. Like, my take on it was a little lighter.

I was, the scene we had to read was giving birth. It was like the birth scene, right? That was the audition scene. And I remember I was. Oh, yeah, I remember that. And I played it very, I was like, It was, there was comedy. It was, there was some levity to it.

I remember that's the way I sort of perceived it, you know. It would have been a totally different show. It would just, just off the seven minutes of interview, it would have been a completely different job. 100%. Yeah, I love that. One year, you know what I mean? It could have been a one year show.

And it would have been your fault. Exactly. Oh, my gosh. Crazy. Thank you guys for tuna. Are you still eating that tuna? Are you still, you still? No.

No. Hope not, man. That was a while ago. I've got more a long time ago. You're fishing that by yourself or you're on a boat with a group of... He goes out, he goes out and does these crazy, which to me is like, I don't even, I don't understand it, but he goes on these crazy weird boats and sleeps in, like, bunks. Yeah, it's with random people. And they go out for 10 days in the middle of the ocean and they fish.

You leave out of San Diego and you fish for 10 days out. And you catch essentially an NFL linebacker with a pole. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like serious fishing and he comes back. Two hours. It was a two hour fight. To reel it in. It was.

Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's, but it's, you got a lot. Are you pulling up a picture of the fish? Is that what you're doing? Yeah. Oliver, Oliver, when Ollie was a little, when Ollie was little, it's like, it's so funny because he's still like this, but he would go fishing and he would just sit out there.

Oh, my God. How? There's, this is. It's like a shark. Wow. That's a yellow. It was that or this is that or this is up. Wow.

That picture is two days after I ruined my life. And that fish is life. That's awesome. That's pretty cool. Isn't that awesome? Yeah. When he was little, like he would go out to like our pond in Colorado, which is like this tiny little pond that we would like stock with trout

and he would just sit out there for hours and hours fishing, always. And is it? Is it the way people who golf, they talk about that and people who serve talk about that? Is it just peace? It's you. Meditation. Yeah. I have a boat and I drop the kids off at school and it 8 in the morning just got on the boat by myself in L.A. And you're outside of L.A. and you're looking, you're outside looking in, you know, you're looking at Los Angeles and it's just beautiful. And it's, again, so it's pure peace. That's what it is for me. I love her. Yeah. That's awesome. Anyway, enough about me, holy shit. I'm going to, yeah. On Oliver Hudson.

Hey, guys, do you, did you any of you know each other before you started the show? No. No. No. No. We all met on the show. Nobody. No.

So, okay, outside of everybody, like, I knew Susan Cletchie Watson, who played my wife on the show. Because we both went to NYU for grad school. Right. But besides that, I think everybody was kind of meeting each other for the first. time. And how long, how long before you started shooting did you actually, you know, because that chemistry, you know, can build immediate, it can be immediate or take some time, like, how did that work? When did we do that first table reading? Yeah, what was your first reading? Was it, did it feel like immediately, like, oh, this is going to be interesting? Because the chemistry for this is us was the, was

the thing that I think kind of really solid, I mean, other than how great the writing was, but you guys had such, I mean, all, everybody, how it was, everybody was cast together. The chemistry was so good. That, that first table read, it was my, it was my first table read ever, and, and I had never had to go through that process before. And so, thinking back on it, being completely naive to the process, everybody felt so casual, everybody felt so comfortable. Nobody seemed, if they were, Nobody seemed nervous. And the whole, the network is there. I mean, it's big, right?

Yeah, yeah. I think we need to explain this because I just had my first big table read for a television, and I'd never experienced that in my life. There is, you have, too many movies. Too many movies. Yeah. And then, so you have, we had like, I mean, you have the studio, and if you have a studio involved,

and all the heads of the studio and all of the writers, you have the writing team. you have the streamer or the network. Yep. And all the executives. I mean, it's like you're doing a performance almost. Yeah, it's like putting on a play or something. You're like you're doing like a read through and you expect that everyone's going to sort of like step up to the plate and deliver and do whatever they're supposed to do.

And everybody's kind of coming at it. I feel like from a different perspective, some people are like it's never going to be the same as when you're on said, obviously. but and then other people are just like so locked in and so it's trying to find that rhythm and it's a very, I feel like an uncomfortable process. I always feel super nervous going into re-throughs, especially knowing that like people can get fired.

I was just about to say that. So many people have been fired off of table. This is what I was going to say. First of all, Kate, what's your show? Is it a drama or is it a comedy? It's a comedy. Okay. I basically played Jeannie Bus,

the president of the Lakers. but it's a comedy version of it's so much fun okay so the thing that i was going to say is they're probably more stressful at comedies than they are at dramas because in comedies if the jokes aren't popping in the room and they'll try to rewrite the joke and if it's not they may have to pull somebody to the side and be like oh we need this joke work so this person's got to go i always feel like in the drama they just want to hear the words and that sort of thing and it's not as tense But when I listen to everybody read it for the first time, because you read it and you kind of hear it in your head,

and then you hear everybody else saying, it's like, oh, it's better than what I've heard. Right, and you hear with the people that were really cast for it, you know? The worst, though, is there's like a moment in your scene where you have to, like, really get scream or get angry, and you're like, shit. Oh, cry. Like, here it comes, like, God damn it. You're like, yeah, I just stop, and then I go, I go,

and then I'll do some screaming here. I'll do a little bit of yawning. And I'll probably, I'll shake a fist, blah, blah, blah. But they had to set up kind of Last Supper style. So we weren't even looking at each other. We were all on the same side of the table. Kind of in a line, yeah. With windows overlooking the entire Universal Studios pack lot, I remember.

That was the only thing that I was like, okay, it's a bit of a flex. Wow. And so you were really on, like, stage. Yeah, it was, we were all sitting next to each other. So it was a lot of, like, trying to, trying to connect and still deliver the, deliver the... Who decided to do that? Right. I don't know why they decided.

I think they made it, they did it that way because it was easier for the executives to see everybody. Like, it wasn't set up for us to interact with each other. Yeah. Set up for them to be able to see us. And that's also why I took it less seriously as well. It's because I was like, oh, okay, they want me to do this the whole time. So I'm not going to take it too seriously. And Fulman had such juice buzz at that time.

I was like, this show's going to go. Yeah. There was no feeling that anybody felt like anything was in danger of being derailed. At least I know if you didn't get into Chris, but it felt like, all right, let's. I had been in so many pilots that didn't move forward. I was like, I remember going to set the first day of shooting the pilot. And Dan was trying to tell Milo and I like, here's my idea for like the overall series

and moving forward and I was like I don't want to hear it because this show doesn't move forward I'm just going to be gutted even more so like please don't tell me any of this specific so I'm glad you were so confident I was like well here we go the fifth one in a row that doesn't move forward

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Mandy, you played a mommy for, I mean, years, and you weren't a mommy. Yeah. Now you're mommy. Yeah. Do you think that you, do you think that, I mean, other than, of course, like, I say this all the time, like, this is what we do. we're actors like we can do any of it we can empathize and understand what's like to be a mother but now that you're a mom are there moments that you sometimes would track back or as you're sort of reflecting on the things and choices that you made that you would have been like oh maybe

it would have made that differently if i would have had this experience i think so like i just have more tools in the toolbox that i just didn't even know existed before and it's funny because you know the three of us have this podcast now where we're re-watching the show. And so we're going back and having the opportunity to actually really reflect on that time and and dig in in a much deeper way to these episodes. And for sure, I watch things sometimes. And I have a different perspective of like, oh, choices that I maybe agreed with the character on while we were shooting. Like, I feel very differently now as a parent or I see things differently. I mean, I didn't know how to I didn't know how to change a diaper.

I remember, like, very early on in the series, like, Milo has many nieces and nephews. So he's like, here, let me show you how to do it. Like, I didn't know how to swaddle a baby. Just, like, very, very simple things that now I feel like I'm a little bit more adept at. But, yeah, it's pretty crazy. Chris didn't have kids either. And by the time we were done, he had two kids. It's just, it's a totally, totally different experience.

Yeah. I would think so. because even just like even the access to emotion with your children like like the second you're doing it in a movie or in a show and it has something to do with your children although I am childless in my show which is quite fun um I feel like it just immediately yes you're immediately like overwhelmed with emotion once anything happens with your child it's just it becomes It's right on the surface. Yeah, yeah.

Until the camera rolls and then I'll just be like, where the fuck did that come? They're like, speed, blah, blah, blah. You're like, oh, my God, I'm going, this is going to be incredible. I might win an Emmy right now. And then all of a sudden it's like, action, like, oh, shit. You got to time it. It does help when you time it.

Like, if you get there too soon sometimes, it's like, it's hard to maintain. So it's like, you know, you try to time it to write a little action. That's so true. What did it like, I mean, you guys shot for how long was the shooting process, like a year? Seven months? How long? We did 18 episodes over the course. Yeah, seven or eight months.

Seven to eight months. Yeah. It's an eight-day shoot schedule for 18 episodes. I mean, that is really intense. Like I, and I think that sometimes people don't understand, like, it takes over your life. Like, it's almost like, you know, thank God you didn't have your baby. because it really like you are working constantly you wake up at 5 a.m. Especially on something where you're in one place where like they can bring you in at 5 a.m.

every day and you're like why are you bringing me? Like I would much prefer to come in at 7, 8. I love you guys. This is Kate's, this is such a foreign experience to Kate who does this movie. It's just like, you guys, this is really hard. Like they just keep doing episodes. I really did, guys. It was a shock to me. And not only, like, I forgot like what it's like to work over three months.

You're in like the almost five. We were almost five months. For eight episodes did you do? Ten. For ten. Okay. But then when you're like, you know, the old number one on the call sheet and you're there every day.

Yeah. you're like okay guys like I just give me a minute you're like I just need to like make it to my kids play like I just need one thing

in these four you know you're gone I mean I would wake up at 5 a.m. I would miss them I would go and I would kiss them and then I'd be gone till 7.30 at night and I it was wild I had

I was like these are the joys of number seven on the call welcome to the upside of my life yeah i think it to season three where i am seven on the call you know it's it was it was uh but it it's seven months of that you know did you get to a point where you were like or or were they were they kind to really kind of break things up and make sure that everybody had time for their families i think because we're an ensemble yeah we're an ensemble so it helped yeah an ensemble. So like, there'll be a heavy Rebecca episode for Mandy and she's there all the time

and she has to do, she has to get up even earlier to do two and a half to three hours of old age makeup to make that thing happen. Right. Then there's a heavy Milo episode and a heavy start. And so like when it's heavy on them, everybody else kind of gets a little bit of a rest of it. Right. So that was the secret sauce that no one was got ever got too exhausted or if they did, then they got a break and then somebody else got to do it. But even, even on a regular episode, if it's eight or nine days of shooting, the storylines are pretty well spread out. So it's two to three days per storyline or if it was a more well-balanced episode. So it was the other thing. You guys would show up and you would see your first AD on that

episode just be a disaster. I think the reason our show works so well was because we had such good first ADs. Oh, yeah. Yeah. They're the best. For anyone who doesn't know what a first AD is, they basically take care of everything. They are the most important person on the set. They're the engine. They make everything happen, everything work, make sure everybody's safe. Like a stage manager in theater.

Yeah. Keep the schedule aligned. Like, yeah, they do everything. I want to break down ensemble. Because I usually say ensemble. It's a French word. Ensemble. Ensemble.

Right. But everything comes to the root of Latin. So if we want to go back that far away. No, no. But the way. Ensemble. Everyone comes together. I know the word what it means.

I'm talking about the pronunciation of it. Ensemble. Ensemble. That's right. Ensemble. Ensemble. What's the other version? Ensemble.

Oh, you stressed the ensemble versus the ensemble. Okay. Ensemble. Maybe Mandy thinks it's spelled O-N. Yeah. Can you imagine? What? It's not?

I think I use them almost interchangeably. I think I say both. But I'm also African-American, so I do things like insurance and umbrellas. Mandy, was that makeup, like, wild for you to put on? And it was two hours every morning? Oh, it was like three and a half. We got it down to like three and a half and like an hour of removal. And then as the character got older,

And we sort of moved into the future because our show jumped around in time so much. It was the oldest version of the character. It was like five hours of prosthetics. But luckily, we didn't do that too, too much. It was just in the last season. I got so used to it that you just sort of have to find yourself in a really zen place and pop in headphones.

It was usually so, so early in the morning. It was like 4.30 in the morning. And so you could be ready for like the first shot at 7.30 or something. So it's, I got so used to it. I did it, I'm sure, like, well over, we tried to, like, count. But I think it was close to like a hundred and twenty five times or something over the course of the show, at least. See, here's what you should have done. Maybe you did.

When you know you're doing a show like this, that needs to be bullet points in the contract. So you get paid more for how much prosthetic. Because, I mean, it's a joke, but I'm like, holy shit, wait a minute. Yeah. If I have to be 89. At five hours, make up, I need more of that episode, a bump. I, you know what? I feel like the gift that I got truly was the fact that I got to work.

I was the only person in the cast that I got to work with everybody. Otherwise, I wouldn't have been able to work with these two gentlemen. This is what I was about to ask this question, actually. First of all, number one is, did you all get along well? Because when you're doing your podcast, right, which is a, it's a rewatch. Am I right? Okay. So, you know, you want to hear the shit. Like, people are going to want to know the real. Yeah. And I'm not saying to give anything away now, but did you guys all perfectly get along?

I was on an ensemble sitcom for seven years, and I can say there was only one fight. Everyone got along really, really well. Yeah. There's plenty of stuff to get into, but I think that maybe the truly most disappointing part for most people is how well we did get along. Yeah. People want a little more friction than we had. But I think the benefit of it was part of the reason the show did so well is that you're actually watching people who genuinely respect each other, think that they are talented and funny and beautiful. And there was a genuine love that was being shared amongst all of us. So there's not unfortunately. I know there's no drama or gossip.

That's amazing. That's amazing. It's pretty cool. I also think that, like, so Dan Polgerman, who's the creator of our show, is a beautiful human being. He's just a little bit older than you and I, Ollie. He's February of 76. And he'd had a few shows on the air already in a few different movies, Crazy Stupid Love, most notably. And I think he'd had done, like, one season of a few shows, and then they'd gotten pulled or maybe pulled in the second season, et cetera.

So he had reached a place in his career where he's like, I think I had. actually have something special. And I think all of us, for the most part, Mandy being the youngest of us, but still having probably been in this industry as long as most of us, you reached this place where all 30-something or 40-something and just sort of like there was a real air of appreciation. Like nobody was taking the moment for granted because we know that moments like this don't come along all that often. So I think if we were younger or something, people could have come to of being like, oh, is this what I'm doing now? Like, I'm cool.

I'm the hot thing, what have you, blah, blah, blah. But nobody had that sense of like, no, we're not hot. We're good and we're really, really appreciative that we get a chance to tell this story with other really cool people. Like, that was like the sequence. When did you know, though, that it was special?

Like, when it was there, there's a moment we're like, holy shit, like we're doing something. There was a few different moments. When they got like, when they got like 25 Emmy nominations? the first season. Well, that's what I'm saying, but before you've been air, like midway through the first season

or you're like, wait a minute, this is different. There was. A table read, don't you think, Sterling? Sorry to jump in, but that's first table read. The table read was awesome. The pilot was awesome. But they're like, so you have a great pilot. And you're like, does that mean you have a great show?

So then you read episode two and you're like, oh shit, show's pretty damn good. And for me, by the time we got to episode five, I think we talk about this on the podcast. There's this whole reference to this painting, and it's sort of oblique if you didn't watch the show. But if you watch the show, he describes this painting as life and like these different colors that come in and out.

And it's sort of like a spiritual experience. It sort of felt like a representation of God without being religious, but with being very sort of like holistic in its approach. And I was like, this is something special. Yeah. A cousin called me, and she said, Sterner. This show is like therapy and church.

and entertainment all rolled up in the wall. It's like I see myself in your character and your sister's character and your brother. Like, I see myself in everybody and it's like something that allows me to like feel lighter when I finish watching it. I was like, okay, now we got it. Before we even aired, they cut together a trailer

that they released online. And if we adjust for inflation, I mean, this is 2016, It had 70 million views in like the first three days. And it was just like a clear indication that people wanted whatever this thing was going to be. Like it was, it was, um, 2016 was a rough time. It was like, it was like a trailer that made you like cry. Yeah.

Oh, God, I remember. I remember that's when I thought like I shouldn't have conned fishing. But you were crying for many, yeah, you were like, oh, wow, this is good. Yeah, going back to, going back to me for one second. 30,000 of those views were from all of her. Did you totally 35 million meters? Repeat, repeat. Did you, did you chemistry read with a bunch of dudes?

Me? Yeah. How many people do you read with? I only ended up reading with Milo. Fucking shit. There was like three women and three men that they brought in. And they didn't even have me read with the other two. They only had me read with Milo.

And I remember hearing, going into the experience, like, everybody really loves Milo. Like, he's the guy to sort of, like, beat. You were supposed to read with one other person, but they didn't show, right? Exactly. They were, like, on vacation or something, they didn't get into the specifics, but. This is the best real is it. This is just the fucking... Look at the look on his face.

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I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest. There will be an occasional text, one way or the other, from me to Ariana. Maybe a happy birthday from Ariana to me. I think the last time I talked to Tom, it was like, congrats on America's Got Talent. This is a combo you don't want to miss. Listen to Casual Chaos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. It may look different, but native culture is very alive.

My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a hundred of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Taylor Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history.

On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world,

influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, it's Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumero, and this is more better. We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you. Your thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals.

And we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice and hot takes. God, that sucks so hard, though. I'm so sorry. Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for funsies? Yeah. We had so much fun last season, laughing, crying, talking to some new and old friends. Remember when we were in that story?

where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing. Oh, yeah. And I was like, can I also hug them? I'm like, this f*** has no friends. This time around, we are, say it, Melissa. Should I? Say it.

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I actually have a question for you guys. I know it's your show. I'm going to ask you guys a question because the love that you guys have is clear and apparent. You're both parents. How has your relationship as siblings affected how you raise your children? Have you guys always been thickest thieves? Did you ever have any friction or what have you?

But I'm just curious. I think it hasn't. meaning Katie and I do it so differently. She raises her kids very differently than I raise mine. Okay. And I think most people raise their kids differently than all of her raises his kids. But there is a crossover in that when she is, you know, when my kids are in her world. Yeah.

Those are her rules. You've got to do what she says. And then Kate has to sort of pick and choose when she lets her kids alone with me because I'm like, look, you want Ronnie to sleep over it's going to be my world so I just you know I'm not worried about Ronnie you give us an example of like context like like

like Bing who is now 13 who it would be different but when he was like nine came home and had watched like three horror films my kids I and I was like Oliver he can't watch like

hereditary yeah exactly like he this is like traumatized it's an amazing film there's art behind and he's like that's what i do i let my kids watch anything they want i'm like oliver but but but please i have a very is there just no like terrible horror movies um no or or you know or like my kids take the birds or their bikes and they can and they can go everywhere they can go anywhere i'm like you just be safe but i believe in sort of independence and you know figuring shit out and uh you know you know Bing is now in Westwood, like, on a weird motorized student. I have them on, like, my, you know, on my, like, Life 360.

I'm like, where the fuck is Bing? It says he's on the 405. We're two and a half, like, almost three years apart. Yeah. We fought all the time when we were little, but it was us. We went through every trauma together. Everything that we experienced was together. from, you know, nannies that put us to sleep at four in the afternoon.

Like lying in bed, you know, it's like bright. I'm like, what am I doing in here? I'd like peek my head out of my room and I'd look at Oliver and I'd be like, Are you tired? Is it bed time? I don't think so. Did you get dinner? I didn't, I'm starving.

Exactly. Exactly. To our father who wasn't around and we both struggle with that differently. But we also fought and he would. terrible to me you know um i was he would she annoyed the shit on me but but honestly it's why she's as is famous because then as we got older i made you then as we got older i made you he made me i did because she needed approval and didn't find it through love so it had to be through success oh my goodness i'm just looking for a simple thank you what a dick i'm just looking for a simple

thank you just one thank you would be nice so So then, but then when he came back, went to college and came back, we were like so tight. You just needed some space. Yeah. Changed everything. And then honestly, when I was going through my divorce, Oliver is really riders, like, ride or die, paternal figure. So when I was going through my divorce, Oliver was there all the time. To analyze why, I think when you come from a really healthy family and your siblings,

you have a better chance of, you know, sharing love and communicating in the right way. But when it's fractured and there's trauma involved in that family, you sort of are fending for yourself. And me as a little boy, I was fending for myself. I didn't have the capacity to give Kate what she needed as a little sister, someone who was wanting it because I was the person that she needed it from the most because of the fractures in the family. But I didn't have the capacity to to even deal with myself, let alone bring in someone else, you know. Dude, that's a deep introspection. That is a deep love.

You guys, when I had my first breakup, I was in my bedroom. I never knew I could cry so hard. Like, I was weeped. I had that, like, you know, when your body is like, it just feels like you're going to die. I do, I do. And Oliver... I don't, actually.

I've never been back in my life. I've never had my heart broken. Yes, except I was in, and I was in like a fetal position, and Oliver heard me, I don't know, and he just came in, and he, and he just held me. And I realized like, and I was, I was like 17 or 18, and, and, and that was like, that was really like, oh, that's my, that's, you know, that's my, that's, that's a good book. Brothers are, yeah, that's a good. I have my moments, you know, I knew when I, I knew when I was needed, you know, okay, so this is for everyone, but to going, going back, like, what a, ring is out, you know, in Westwood,

my kids came home once and we're like, we don't want to go to Antiquates anymore. I'm like, why? What's happened? She goes, well, like, you have to take your shoes off when you go into the house. I'm like, I'm like, well, that's the reason. Like, I don't want to take my shoes up. And there's just rules. And I don't know.

I don't know. I'm like, okay. It's good for them. What you should do is say you're going to anti-Kates for two weeks. Oh, God. What's your kid? I subscribe to a shoeless household, too, Kate. Like, I'm very, very with you on that.

Two things. We take our shoes off, but I do feel as if the level of helicopter parenting in 24 is a bit much. And my wife and I actually, like, have a little friction because, like, I believe in, like, if he wants to ride his bike to the CVS or what have you, let him ride his bike. He's like, well, why is it? He might have to call him. cross the street. Yeah, he'll have to cross a street.

10, he knows when to look left, look right, wait for the crosswalk. He can cross the street. So we're navigating that, you know, and I'm sure we'll continue to navigate that. And he's 10? We have a, well, we have a nine-year-old. I was talking about when he was 10. We have a nine-year-old and a 13-year-old right now. The 13-year-old can kind of go do his thing. He's still a little more precious with nine. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, I, I, I, you know, You know, I would drink in front of my kids.

I smoke, what I smoke cigarettes in front of my kids. I curse in front of my kids. I do everything that I do. Yeah, anything in front of my kids. Because it's me. I let them do their thing. You know what I mean? Like, I want to be me in front of them.

I'm not going to hide anything from it. And you're saying by virtue, you want them to do them in front of you. You're giving them to. Yeah, exactly. I want to make it exactly. I want them to hide shit. And by the way, you know, it seems to work out so far. My kids are great.

They are awesome. I mean, you've got great kids. I'm just more of a believer in structure. I think that kids have, have less anxiety when they understand what the, what the rules are. Yeah. I think it's good for them to want to break them. I think it's good to have that kind of like, you know, if you're not back before bedtime, before it gets dark on your bike. Sure.

Then you're not going to ride your bike tomorrow. Sure. And you can just sleep outside. You can just sleep out there. Right. Well, yeah, yeah. Kind of. Kate, it's a lot of, like, you know, death fear, hurt fear.

It's like, don't run. Oh, my God, be careful, be careful. It's very like that because she had a traumatizing. She choked on a fireball once, like one of those little fireballs and had to be. Oh, I had to have the Heinleck. So I was like 10 years old and I choked on a fireball and I had to have the hymline. Yes. You got her.

She still blends Bing's food. And Bing is 14. It's like that You chew it up for him You chew it up for him The bird feeding I'm fascinated at baby bird Listen I send the bird feed

To my son at NYU now You know I send it off My farmer's dog My farmer's dog Thaw this Thaw this before you eat it Thaw it out before you eat it

September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place will stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready.

Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. Hi, I'm Jenna Lopez. And in the new season of the Overcomfort podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of who my mom is. Like, I felt like I needed to be better or work twice as hard as she did.

Join me for conversations about healing and growth. Life is freaking hard. And growth doesn't happen in comfort. Happened in motion, even when you're hurting. All from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen. Honestly, these are going to come out so freaking amazing. Be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the Overcumper podcast as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

Hey, it's your favorite jersey girl, Gia Judice. Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I share my story. This week, I'm sitting down with Vanderpump Rural Star, Sheena Shay. I don't really talk to either of them, if I'm being honest. There will be an occasional text, one way or the other, from me to Ariana. Maybe a happy birthday from Ariana to me. I think the last time I talked to Tom, it was like, congrats on America's Got Talent. This is a combo you don't want to miss.

Listen to Casual Chaos on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It may look different, but native culture is very alive. My name is Nicole Garcia, and on Burn Sage, Burn Bridges, we aim to explore that culture. It was a huge honor to become a television writer because it does feel oddly, like, very traditional. It feels like Bob Dylan going electric, that this is something we've been doing for a hundred of years. You carry with you a sense of purpose and confidence. That's Sierra Teller Ornelis, who with Rutherford Falls became the first native showrunner in television history. On the podcast, Burn Sage Burn Bridges, we explore her story, along with other Native

stories, such as the creation of the first Native Comic-Con or the importance of reservation basketball. Every day, Native people are striving to keep traditions alive while navigating the modern world, influencing and bringing our culture into the mainstream. Listen to Burn Sage Burn Bridges on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey guys, it's Stephanie Beatriz and Melissa Fumero, and this is more better. We are jumping right in and ready to hear from you. Your thoughts, your questions, your feelings about socks with sandals.

And we're ready to share some possibly questionable advice and hot takes. God, that sucks so hard, though. I'm so sorry. Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for funsies? Yeah. We had so much fun last season, laughing, crying, talking to some new and old friends. Remember when we were in that scene where you guys.

were just supposed to hug and I was standing. Oh, yeah. And I was like, can I also hug them? I'm like, this f*** has no friends. And this time around, we are, say it, Melissa. Should I? Say it. Getting a little more better.

Oh, finally. It's all the dressing room talks you've loved in season one. All the things. Because aren't we all trying to get a little more better? Listen to more better on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your Podcasts. I want to get into the sibling dynamic quick, you know, for you with Sterling and your siblings on the show.

Yeah. You know, how did you guys have the same, like after a while, did it kind of bleed into a sibling dynamic a little bit with like behaviors and things that would kind of, you would love and things that you'd be like, oh, God. Let's see. Like, well, first of all, when I text Chrissy or Justin, I use. usually begin the text with sister, what's going on, brother, what's going on. Like, like, honest to goodness, like I, I love them deeply, you know.

Every once in a while, the three of us would just go out, have drinks, catch up, and it was just, it's delightful, right? And like, there's, it's not the same sort of nuisance that you have with true siblings, because true siblings, you know, you don't have any choice in it. Like, if you talk, I have a real brother and a real sister who I share annoyance for there, but they're still castmates, still friends, or whatnot. Like, and there really wasn't that much, you know, you don't spend that much time. You spend time and you go home, and you spend time to go home. You're still castments. Whereas family is like, oh, you're still here?

Why are you here? Like, go away. Like, you're annoying me right now. You know what I'm saying? Which is something that I, as I pay attention to this 13 and 9-year-old, And I'm glad to hear. It's reassuring to hear how much you guys fought. And it's reassuring to see how, like, lovely you are to each other right now.

Because there are times with the 13 and 9-year-olds where they're just douchebacks. Mm-hmm. And total full. Yeah. And then there are moments when they're so sweet. And, like, for their mom's benefit, because I'm a little bit more used to, like, boy energy than is my wife, who was an only child and is completely foreign to her. She's like, they just beat the shit out of each other.

Because they love each other. Yeah. That's a weird way. I was like, I know. Yeah, it's so true, dude. I'm being the only girl of three boys. Yeah, she was the only girl. Testosterone is a strange poison.

It is so weird. That's why my testosterone was so high. It was like by autism. No, it's crazy. It didn't stop. My boys, my 16, 14. and 11, my girl's 11. But, you know, three days ago, I hear like,

I'm like, Wilder and Wilder and Bodie are my two boys, I'm like, shut the fuck up, what are you doing? Because they're always killing each other. And I walk into the room and they've made out of like pillowcases, and they've wet the tips, he's whipping. They're whipping each other. But not in a fight. Bodie's literally like bent over a chair and Wilder's whipping him.

And I'm like, like, in his ass. I'm like, what is going on, you guys? And we're like, we're just trying to get like the thing. I'm like, oh, my God, dude. Wait, what's the thing? They're trying to get it like to stay. They're trying to get like a sting and a welt. And just to see who can get a bigger welt on their backs and their ass.

So dumb. In high school, they told us we were snapping towels and somebody talked about an extreme injury in that a young man received in the frontal regions. And when they were like, okay, we won't, we're not going to do that anymore. That'll, that'll, that'll, that'll end the. Did you guys, some people who you did not, or you didn't really know that well? Because did you guys work together, you know, you didn't work together all the time. So I'll tell you what the interesting thing is.

And like, when you watch the show, people don't even clock it. But like, I think I did three scenes of four with Milo in the course of six seasons. because we occupied two separate timelines. Yeah. Right? He was, and then it would have to be like, I had a vision quest,

and he showed up there. Or sister was imagining what her wedding would be like, and he showed up in the imagining of her wedding if he was still alive or whatnot. But I think a lot of people don't even realize that, like, hello had, like, because Mandy's the connective tissue between the present and the past, right? So everybody thinks we're all together all the time.

And most of us are, but Milo had a very interesting, journey that was a bit more isolated from everybody else. So how, so did you, did you see him? Do you know, do you know him? Yeah, we know each other, we see each other because we, well, there's promotion for the show, which you know, of course, right. Like everybody's got to do that.

And then Dan would do a wonderful job of like getting folks together for dinners or to hang out at his house and watch episodes and whatnot. So the camaraderie through the cast was complete with everyone, even though structurally we were in the same space. And we would pass, you guys would pass each other in hair and makeup. Exactly. It very much felt like we were all part of the same show. It was just like, oh, unfortunately, you know, the rest of the cast doesn't get to work with him.

Yeah. Just on his own little island. It's so fun because as I'm sitting here and asking all these questions and kind of going into this thinking like, oh, this is going to be, you know, we know the show. But like, it's literally, it really is that show. Like, every, Chris, I was thinking about your character, like being the brother-in-law. and and like it's like oh chris like what was that like being a brother-in-law in this dynamic it's like everyone related to you guys in a way because everyone like you were saying earlier sterling there was something in every single character that everyone can relate to like i am that brother-in-law

or i am that sister-in-law i am that sibling i am that adopted child like it was it's it's so brilliant because it kind of even here now the show's over and we're still talking about it like chris i was just thinking like did it change the dynamic that you were an in-law even on set like did you feel like an in-law on set um no not necessarily i think i think it was definitely definitely vying for, you know, maybe a little bit of attention. Maybe trying to, try to, can I be a part of this group? Does anybody, might if I jump in? But I think that the, it's so fascinating to talk about the many different ways into this show, right?

There's a, there's a million ways into this show for people to relate to it. And you would think on paper that this show is too specific. It's too, it's, it's, there's too much. specificity to this story for anybody to even relate to. But even when you guys talk about the way you grew up and even, you know, the way you grew up is wholly unique. Like you had a completely unique experience. But as you tell us your stories, even in your most dramatic moments,

curled up on the bed being held by your brother, it's, there's these basic, um, human truths that, that apply no, no matter who you are, to storytelling in general. You reach the universal through the specific.

That's right. That's right. And Dan gave so many specifics that it just allowed all of these people to come from every different angle of relationship, whether it's brother-in-law or sister, mother, father, estranged biological father, like, whatever the thing is, there was all these ways in. So even though you were,

you know, like myself from Miguel or, or less, less, uh, Beth, but number seven, number seven, yeah. Numbers, uh, number six, seven and eight, um, are, are, are kind of hovering around the sun. They're still very much a part of the universe and the universe can't exist without them. So it, it all felt very, very inclusive. Yeah, that's amazing. It's a podcast. I hope you guys been doing it. Well, well, more than that, what made you want to do it like who where did this sort of spark i mean we you take it yeah i mean i i had brought up the idea but we had all had had the ideas because rewatch podcasts are a thing and and if anyone's going to do a rewatch podcast it should be us and and and so we just we we we got the

ball rolling and talk to dan about it and dan gave us his blessing and and we hooked up with good producers and we've been we've what episode just dropped 14 or we've we've we've we've got 10 or 12 episodes out now and uh and it's called that was us does it cool I like that does it feel like do you does it make you wish you could kind of go back and do another season oh yeah that's interesting like I feel that way I see miss everybody I miss everybody I miss everybody I want to see everybody. But the reason why I was okay with the show ending when it did is because that's how much story Dan said he had. If Dan came back and said, I have an idea for seventh season, then I'd be like, talk to me about it. But like, I think, like, it's, the joy was like people

still wanted us to be there and we got a chance to say goodbye rather than, oh, is that damn thing still on? You know what I mean? Like, we didn't, we didn't overstay our welcome. We didn't always they are welcome, which I think is most network TV shows tend to. Are you guys watching? Are you actually watching the show? You have to. Yeah, yeah. So do you watch it

and then get on the podcast and yeah. Yeah. So we each go back and yeah. We've been watching and I think the interesting thing is, you know, we said we shot for eight months, but then as soon as we were done shooting, we would get into these press cycles

and we would all still be together but doing press or traveling around or going to up front or whatever the thing was and then we'd go right back to shooting and there's a certain element of rewatching the podcast now that I didn't even realize what's happening I just at the time

that really taking in the story and really taking in the experience of being a part of the story and also really taking in the relationship between the story and the audience like we knew people were watching

we knew it was a success we knew people loved it but to go back with a little more time a little more care and just go through the story and to remember where we were at that time and to see how we've changed

what about to even watch it for the first time because like did you watch every single episode of this is us like when I do shows like I'll watch the first couple I'm like I don't want to see this shit anymore You know. Well, maybe if you were on This Is Us, you'd want to watch the show.

Honestly, I probably wouldn't. You want to watch everybody's work. It's like, ugh, it's hard to watch yourself, but I'm like, I got to see Sterling and Susan and Chris and Chrissy. And that was my next question, too, is watching it back. Are you like, okay, I want to get into the story, but Jesus, I didn't, I wish I did that. Why did I, I look terrible? Why did I say it like that? A little bit of that.

A little bit of that. It's so much, it's so much of an ensemble that I could be watching and be totally in the Sterling story or Mandy's story. And then I pop up and go, all right, I'm in this show. That's right. Yeah, you forget about it. I feel kind of thing, like, it's easier to watch it as purely a fan. Yeah.

Without even, like, thinking about your involvement in it. Like, I feel like I'm experienced much more sort of, like, from a 10,000 square foot view or what have you. Whereas before, you may have nitpicked things, and now you just kind of get a chance to enjoy it. I wonder if you can relate to this, anyone, but like sometimes I have a hard time watching things back. But when I'm watching something back and it's an emotional scene that I'm doing, it's almost, it's hard for me not to start to like almost like get back into this, not back into the scene. But I can't help but like cry. You make yourself cry.

Like I'm that good. No, because I make myself cry. No, no, it's not even that. It's like, it's like I, it's like going back and, and. knowing what you were processing. Like I have this weird thing where, like, if I'm in a scene, I just know exactly what I was thinking, I know exactly what I was doing, and I just can't help but like start crying again. You know what? That doesn't sound that crazy to me because I think I have vibe with what you're saying. I remember, and we're actually going to get to this episode soon, you guys, for when William passes away.

And I remember watching it. And, like, I was so moved by it that, like, I cried uncontrollably watching the show. And I was like, I did it. And I was in it. But I was experiencing it as an audience member as before I was experiencing as the character. So slightly maybe, but I'm not sure. Yeah. I have this weird thing where when I'm watching myself emotional, I'm like, oh, God, I know what I was thinking.

Like, I can't start thinking that. Like, I know where I was. was. That totally makes sense. I absolutely understand that. I'm going to listen. So what you're saying, I am the only one. What makes you cry? Come on. What makes you cry, Oliver? Oh, anything dad related. Like, you know, if there's something father related, thinking about, you know, how lucky my kids are and what I potentially missed out on, you know, I'm like, oh, shit. You know, I'm a big of emotion. Oh, my God. Triumph. When you see someone. Yeah. Triumph. Sports. Oh, gosh, sports. I am constantly moving by sports. Constantly, always, you know. And then sometimes I'll just look at my children and just start crying and feeling, like, grateful for my kids. I'm like, look at these fuckers. I love them so much that I have to cry.

It's amazing. The kids will get you every time. This is true. Every time. I want to tell a funny case before the time runs out, because right before This is that started, Kate and I did a movie. We did a movie together called Marshall. We shot up in Buffalo, had a wonderful time with each other. I think we're almost kind of like common law, husband, and wife, because we got close real quick. That's right. We're up there and we're hanging out in Buffalo.

It's nighttime. And, you know, Kate was looking around earlier in the day, and people were trying to take pictures and like, that Kate Hudson, that Kate Hudson. And she's like, they're trying to take a picture. So at night, we go to this party. We have a great time. Me, her, and Dan Stevens are walking home.

It's Buffalo, and it's, like, middle of the night. Well, we were with Chadwick and his wife, right? And John, Stephen. But we were going home, and she was like, guys, she's like, guys, we had had a couple of things. She's like, nobody, she's like, nobody even cares. Like, look, and she's skipping down the middle of the street. It was, nobody cares. Everybody was like, we're like, cut it.

And I'm like, guys, nobody cares. nobody cares. And I just start literally dancing in the middle of the movie. And it was a packed street. Oh, I think I have that on film. I hope we do. I think somebody,

either me and you or dad, I think Dan, I think it was you. We definitely have it. I will look through my phone. That was a magical night. That was such a great night. And you know, I think it's one of those things like actors, we're all a weird bunch

of people, we chose a very, very wild, uh, mercurial world to live in. No, it's beautiful. No, it's great. But it is really like when you get a group of people together that all share that same like common love. Yeah. It just, yeah. Actually, never ask you guys, you guys are three eyes. Let me ask you a question. Chris, I'll start with you. Do you think you're a great actor? that's a crazy question I know you think you I know you think you're a great actor no I don't think I don't think about it like that

I think I'm always a learn I'm always a student of the craft but do you think you are good I think I have confidence no I know this is I really mean this I think I have confidence in my ability but I never feel like I've reached any kind of

you can still be great in strife I like this question. I don't think greatness is a hard word when you're when you're portraying character and humanity. It's like I can't say like, oh, wow, I'm a great actor. I think that's a cop out. No, I don't. You can think you're good or great at this. I think I can be.

I'll say you, I'll go first. I think I'm a good actor who can be great. That's what I think I am. given better work, Essek, and the right role and the fact that there was a strike and a few other things. But, you know, like, I think I'm a good actor and I could be great given the right opportunity. I think the most important thing that I wrote up, because before we answer this question, we have to hang out. Being around the two of you is going to be one of the great joys of my life. So I look forward to us doing that in the future.

For sure. Chris, you were first. Yes. This is a good end to the, this is different than how we usually end. I am capable of meeting any challenge that someone puts before me. So the definition of greatness, I don't know what it means. I am a very, very good actor. I believe that. That doesn't mean I don't live with doubt and it doesn't mean I don't live with moments of anxiety.

And it doesn't mean that I haven't been a bad actor. I've certainly looked at things and been like, oh, wouldn't he use that take? But I blame that on bad editing. Bad direction. This is an ensemble, right? I wouldn't have edited it that way. But before we get to Sterling, you make a great point.

you have to risk being bad to be great. You know what I mean? I agree with them. That's the whole thing. And that's honestly what I respect most about Kurt. Like he will try things that are so fucking insanely horrible just to see what happens and not have any fear of anyone saying, what are you doing? Because you have to risk being bad to be great. I think the greats leave no room for anyone else to misinterpret their performance.

and I haven't quite figured out all of the mechanations of that and the mathematics of that but I think the great sleeve there's not a take they could use that wouldn't be the one September always feels like the start of something new whether it's back to school

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questionable advice and hot takes. God, that sucks so hard, though. I'm so sorry. Can you out petty them? Can you match their pettiness for funsies? Yeah. We had so much fun last season, laughing, crying, talking to some new and old friends.

Remember when we were in that scene where you guys were just supposed to hug and I was standing. Oh, yeah. And I was like, can I also hug them? I'm like, this f*** has no friends. And this time around, we are. Say it, Melissa.

Should I? Say it. Getting a little more better. Oh, finally. It's all the dressing room talk you've loved in season one. All the things. Because aren't we all trying to get a little more better?

Listen to more better on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is a podcast in itself. We can talk about this forever because art is subjective. What one person thinks is great, another person, is like, that's not what? You're like, no, they're great. And you're like, no, they're not.

And you know, I think what's interesting is like sometimes when you say like the greats, like we have an idea of who the greats are. But there are some people like that people would consider a great that I would say, I see every choice that they're not a great to me. Like I see them acting all the time. Like Corey Feldman's music. I mean, you know what I mean? Perfect example.

A perfect example. But it's such an interesting. interesting conversation because all art is truly subjective. I don't know about that one, but what do you mean? What do you mean it's not all subjective? No, he's talking about Cory Feld.

Cory Hoveman's music. I think is there is still good and bad you guys. Like, there is still good at you. I want to hear Mandy Moore's answer. Yeah, me too. Manda, are you great? I I feel capable.

I rarely feel like, ooh, that was it. Like I'm very, very, very hard on myself. I'm a hard worker. I think I have a really good work ethic. I think I know that I'm going to show up to any job or any task or whatever is asked of me and I'm going to give 150%. I don't know if that always equates to greatness or goodness. I'm a really like harsh critic of myself. I have a really high bar. But I feel like I keep showing up and I keep trying and sometimes I feel good.

But, yeah, rarely, rarely do I leave work and go like, ooh, that was a good day. Like, that's just not my style, never, no. Yeah, that's interesting. So I'm going to answer this question and it's a little bit easier for me because I think I can see it from like the company that I keep. Like you can tell a lot about who you are as an individual by looking at your friend group or your peer group, and you're like, I've attracted beautiful people into my life.

Like, when I look at Chris and I look at Mandy, I think they are absolutely exceptional at what they do. And so by virtue of that fact, I must be something special. And I mean that sincerely because when I see you guys, I'm like, oh, these people are fucking beasts. So I must be doing something right because I feel like we are in this thing together. So that's the easiest way for me to answer it

is just by looking at the people that are in my sphere and the way that I feel about them, if I belong with them, then they must see something similar. I love that. Are you good or you great? I mean, like, I feel like I am, you know what I look at it as?

On my worst day, I feel like I give a solid B plus. So it gives me, like, my baseline is a high baseline. But when I'm there, I think what I'm very good at is just being present in the moment. And like allowing whatever my scene partner has to give me to inspire something that allows something new and spontaneous to transpire than in there. You do your preparation so that inspiration can happen in the moment. Raw, all amazing answers and all different. I can't wait.

And all relatable. Yeah. Like really amazing. I'm I'm I if I'm looking at the squares I'm probably more Mandy you know it's like I rarely leave work where I'm like I just fucking crush that shit like I'm just like oh I got through the day I got through the day they moved on they long for that kind of separated confidence but I don't know if you saw Liles when he out leaned the guy in the Olympic race and he's like I thought I got out leaned but then I looked up and I was like oh I'm incredible

yeah i'm incredible but he said but he said and i looked up and i'm like wow i'm incredible yeah yeah i'm like speak from the heart man speak exactly what you're feeling yeah oh you guys this has been so much fun yeah awesome thank you for coming on thank you guys i can't wait to listen to us podcast listen to that was us i'm gonna check it out too that sounds please check it out and honestly when you guys get back to la let's have dinner make you to dinner because you guys are a lot of fun. I would love to.

Let's do it. Can't wait. Let's do it. All right, guys. Have a good day. Bye, my life. Bye, everybody. Sterling's the best.

They're all great. Chris is great. They're all great. I've met Mandy at like through, but I've never like really hung out with Mandy. Obviously Sterling and I did film together. And Chris, I just, I remember watching the show you he is he was I mean everyone was great everyone's great

there's something about him as an actor he's so like it's like you see you see you he's so honest as an actor he's such a wonderful actor I get excited for you to see I'm gonna watch it yeah and and his journey on the show is really interesting I'm really gonna fucking start it like I always say that I am but I'm going to start this show yeah it's just so great. I've never seen it. I think I maybe saw the pilot. Maybe there's something deep, the reason why I'm not wanting. Yeah, obvious. I think we all figured that out. Well, you know, it's so funny. Ollie, you don't have a tooth. I don't know. What happened? So, root canal. Okay. But in Europe, I didn't have a tooth roll of our trip.

You didn't? No, because I took a bite of caramel and it came out. What came out? The crown on top of, you know, the root canal. And so the whole root came out, but it's, there's no root. So it's dead. Is it hurt? No, because there's no root. There's no nerve endings in it. Oh.

So I'm thinking about getting like a solid gold, too. Are you, can you do that? Yeah. I mean, I probably shouldn't do that because if I ever work again, it would be weird. But gold is okay. But don't, don't do that. It's also you can't afford it. No, I know.

Well, no, I can melt a few things down. Okay. But, no, I'm getting it fixed when I get him. Oh, wait, do you have a tooth? But this was so great. Honestly, like, I'm so happy they came on. Oh, me too. It must be so much fun for them to watch all that.

Yeah, I know. I love them all. Strong is just a bright, shining light, too, huh? Oh, he's so wonderful. And I was going to say this, obviously, but as all of they know, I can say this now that's just us but um he was talking about the scene partner he's an he's the best scene partner oh yeah like and we really did like we got close we immediately connected yeah and because it was really him and i the whole time and they all the other cast did their but but sterling and i did

everything together and it was really really what was your relationship challenging material so it's Without getting into the whole movie. Marshall, it's a story of a case of Thurgood Marshall. And it's a woman, my character, who accuses a man who works for her of raping when, in fact, he was innocent. And they actually had a relationship. But it sort of takes you through the different perspectives and. really like, you know, it was a very challenging part for me to play because obviously subject matter. And for him as well, both of us sort of were in this thing where we

loved each other. And yet I was, because I was caught, was throwing him under the bus. And it was, I mean, it's just brutal. And, but we had to go through some really intense. scenes together where it was very intimate and very hard and and and um and so you have to feel safe yeah and oh my god sterling is just the best he he was just the best and so anyone who works with sterling yeah that was awesome oh always fun um yeah it's the best i love you i love you too we're in colorado doing podcast It's your favorite jersey girl, Gia Judice. Welcome to Casual Chaos, where I share my story.

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