Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Three Mothers and a Podcast

Episode Date: May 12, 2025

Grab your rosé and kick back with Kate as she catches up with her sisters-in-law for a special Mother's Day revelry! Wyatt's wife, Meredith and Oliver's wife, Erinn spill some serious Hudson/Russell family secrets. Plus, hear why their parenting practices are TOTALLY different!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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we've actually won in Italy a couple of years ago. Anyway, it just made our trip feel extra special. So if you're heading out this month, consider hosting your home on Airbnb with the co-host feature you can hire someone local to help manage everything. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos.

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Please state your first and last name. Krista Pike Listen to Unrestorable Season 2 Proof of Life On the IHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts Or wherever you get your podcasts Hi, I'm Kate Hudson

And my name is Oliver Hudson We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship And would it's like to be siblings We are a sibling rivalry No, no Sibling Rivalry Don't do that with your mouth Sibling

Reavory That's good Hi you guys Happy Mother's Day podcast Mothers, they're podcast mothers. I'm so excited that I get to talk to my sister-in-laws for our... Me too. Oliver is on his boat fishing.

Surprise, surprise. And I get to have these two gorgeous ladies. Our favorite little trio. You get, I know, we're a trio. We get you. The listeners get Aaron, who is my, baby, my therapist. Oh, God, that's all. that disaster.

I'm not so sure that's the best. I think she's really good. Aaron, Aaron's the best listener. Right? Don't you think you're like the perfect listener? Definitely a good listener. I feel like I'm kind of everybody's go-to therapist. Yeah.

You listen and you and you don't like fix, meaning like you're not interested in like, okay, this is like I have to like fix things. I'm a little bit of a fixer though. You think so? Ellie used to always say, don't try and fix it. Just listen. I feel like I can be if somebody wants it. Maybe if they don't want it.

Oh, interesting. But you're always positive about it. Like, it's like, okay. Like, I could be like, I have a rash that's gone from my scalp to my vagina. And Aaron's like, okay, we're going to figure this out. Like, you're terrible rash. You're very like, okay, I haven't actually had that, but I'm just using a metaphorical example of an emotional rash. But like, you would be like, okay, we've got this.

One thousand percent, okay, it's like always, we're always fixing. I'm very good at helping others, not really maybe taking my own personal advice. No, that's true. I always feel like it's like with Aaron, it's like soothing. Yeah. It's like the soothing. It's very neutral. Yeah.

I see both sides. I'm very much, uh, okay, well, let's look at it from their point of view. Yeah. And I'm like, no, no, no. This one over here with her opinions. I wish I had strong opinions like that. The other day, you were like such a cheerleader for me. And I was like, jacked up off it.

I was like, ah. I know. Turbo speed. So I was like, my dad. I was like, paw and miracle. I was like, it's your time. Yeah. It's your time.

Speech. It's a good, come to me for the calming speech. Come to Kate for the fucking, go-get-em speech. What are you come to me for? Nothing. Just kidding. To feel better about yourself? Yes.

To feel better about me. You're like the pep-top. You are the best cheerleader. Yeah, you are the best cheerleader. You're the pep-top. You always make me feel like I've contributed enough, meaning like I, like, I, like, you make me, you remind me. that I have made some contribution in the world.

It's like what I need to feel that. You know what it's like? It's like in soap dish when Whoopi Goldberg takes Sally Field to the mall because she's feeling down and she takes her to the mall and is like, you know, just so she can get noticed. That's how I feel sometimes. If I was feeling down, you'd be like, come on, we're going to the mall. We're not shopping.

You're hot shit, babe. Deal with it. I feel like mayor is very positive and girl, like, supportive vibes, always. Best compliments, like, makes you feel like a million dollars. You as people. So, like, I will shout it from the roof. Also, I feel like, I feel like Mayor, you, there's, like, Aaron, you feel like it's very soothing and, like, okay. right like you're like Switzerland definitely you have like you know whereas whereas Meredith

Meredith's perspective makes me makes not only it feels seen but makes me like laugh yes right there's always a little touch of humor yeah there's sort of like the realistic if it's like family drama or whatever it's like you just know how to lean into the comedy of it and and and and then I'm just laughing at how ridiculous something now we're all close enough where like I do love there is that moment that's so sweet I feel like it was at my baby shower or something where I was like oh my God like if all goes well we'll get to like be old ladies together yes yes because it's already been oh god that we've all like you were part of the family for a long time Aaron but yeah thank God you came along

now we all like there's moments now I'm not in it alone I love when we like catch each other's eyes some like we'll be out and about and it's just like I know that this is like you know no it's great I mean if you think about it we're dating Kate's two brothers

dating you're married married sorry wow just thinking back to the old days Oliver just kidding we're still dating it's kind of cute that you just married to, but I was thinking when we first started, you know, dating, you were like, you know, you'd be protective. It's like, this is, these are my brothers.

Like, this is, you know, who's going to be coming into the family? Who are they with? Like, all of that kind of stuff. Yeah. Which is important. You know, you think about it because you're like, have high standards. Yeah. And I definitely, not that hit the jackpot.

Well, yes. But not for any, not for any other reason except just. because they're my brothers was definitely hyper ready to judge. Oh, yeah. You're not. You're like, you go in kind of like, okay. This is not going to be good. You go and like, you know, and me of all people who like loves everybody,

although I have to say I didn't have any like thing to, I feel like it was super easy. when we first met, when Aaron and I first met. Like you were just starting to date. Chris. It was your 21st birthday. Yes. Okay. You were just starting to date Chris.

Ollie and I were not together yet. No, that's right. But we met in the kitchen. Kitchen in my parents' house. Your parents' house. Now Jackie and Adam's house. And he were on the phone and put him on speaker phone. And Ollie and I had walked in the kitchen, just friends.

And she was like, Ollie, like, this is my new boyfriend. Like, say hi. I, like, met him, like, six hours before. Literally. And there's Chris Robinson on the phone. I'm like, on the Black Rose? And she's like, yeah. And it was her 21st birthday.

And then I walk in, you guys had a band going, okay? Vanessa was, like, on the bongo drums. Oh, Boston, you're singing, allie singing. It was like a whole vibe. And Vanessa, who's, like, stunning, beautiful, Oliver's ex. I walked in and was like, oh, she's a. the family band. This is serious. And I don't even sing to myself in the shower or alone in the car. This was like a whole musical situation going on. And I just thought, okay, we're going to be

friends. We're just going to have friendship. And then, you know, cut to they broke up. But what was the bath story? So that was Oliver and I, your parents were out of town. You were maybe home, like still, this is like your childhood home. And we had decided to have like a date night at his house in your parents' bathtub. So we had like, God, I remember. And it's a gorgeous tub with like steps up to it, like a big built in tub. We're in there literally candles lit. It's probably like Arleigh has like R&B music playing. Like you name it. It's like a vibe. And Kate's like, knock, knock, knock. Hey guys, can I come in? And I'm like, trying to put bubbles around like my boobs.

I'm like, oh my God, what's happening? She comes in and sits down on the step, like with us, basically. Yes. I just like get in the bathtub. And she's like, hi. And she starts like talking. I'm like, so anyway. So Chris.

But it was like stories and chatting away. And the whole time I'm like shriveling up in the bathtub. Never mind. And I'm like, am I going to like get out with her here? Like I'm going to be naked in front of her. What's happening? Cut two. I like the next time I see her I'm in the shower at allies okay like taking your shower she comes in

and sits down on the toilet to go pee no boundaries talking to me well I'm in the shower naked I'm like hey like so classic and she's asking me all these questions oh my god she's like are your boobs real oh my god you showed me your boobs you showed me your boobs like my real boobs back in the day around. Aaron or me? Erin. Oh. I did. Oh, how we got around. I think I got a little more comfortable by the time you were around.

But I was like, that was my introduction to Kate. Just like peeing in front of you. Being in front of me coming in, inspecting my naked body, wanting to get in the tub, telling me her whole life story, open book. I was like, I love this person. I want to be more like this person because I was East Coast, like, shy. You were not shy.

I mean, you get a couple like bears in you and you're like, it's like, it's like, it's like, night and day. Alter ego. Like, totally. Let's not go there. Who is this person?

I'm going to keep it PG for Mother's Day. That'll be another podcast. First time we met mayor was. I have, we have a different one. Oh, no. First time I met, Kate was different than the first time I met. That's what I mean.

Why am I forgetting? First time I met you, Kate, is a classic story of my life. It's a great one. So I had met the family, everybody else. I think you were working at Aaron and Ollie's house. And I was so nervous. Whatever, we had dinner. And I was just like holding my breath, hold.

I'm like, oh, my God, oh, my God. But it was amazing. But it was awkward. It was like me, Ollie, Goldie Kurt, and you and why I come into my house. And everyone's like, hey. You know, there she is so cute, like, bringing in, like, a cute gift. And, like, I think you had a, like, jean, like, high-wasted gorgeous jeans or overalls or just something so cute and stylish.

And immediately I was like, oh, my God, I feel her energy. Like, I know this feeling. So I was like, we're going to make this great. It's so sweet. And I was just like, but everyone was so great. And I was like, well, Wyatt just, like, shut down. Like, I remember he wasn't like, he wasn't, like, giving me a bone. He just was like, he had, he turned into, like, he, like,

He, like, throw you to the wolves. He's like, let's see how she handles this. I'll never forget this. He was like, he turned into, like, a 16-year-old, like, boy. And I was like, hey, it had this hot dog shirt on. And then those, like, straight guy, jock, like, mesh long shorts. I don't know where he got them. I think he had borrowed him from Ollie or something.

I was just going to say, so I was like, Ollie. And I had, like, a candle. And then I wrapped it in twine. And then I put rosemary on it. And, like, I had put so much thought into my, like, I married it. Like, here's a candle. like, do I bring candy? Do I bring candy? Oh, you did? You brought candy. You brought, like, what do they call?

It was like, oh, my God, I'm so nervous. And because it had been a while. We were together a while. Anyway, he comes to the door. He's like, hey, I just kind of like walks in and then, like, goes and sits, like, I'm left to my own devices. So I was like, ah, ha. My story with you, Kate, was obviously, like, but it's Kate Hudson. And I'm like, when I'm comfortable. I'm so me, but like if I get, and you guys now know me well enough

is like, if I get geeked or awkward or something, it's like, it is. It's like my entire career is based around this feeling of just being like, nah. If he turns it to like a common comedy routine. And so I don't like smoke at me because I'll have like a bad experience and then it's like five years later

and I'm like, oh God. But Ollie, I wanted to be like, cool. I got to, I flew out. Aspen and Ollie was like oh they're all out watching a movie like they won't be back to late so I was like perfect he's like so let's have let's smoke a joint and then I was like great

well smoke a joint we'll go to the guest house and then I'll meet everybody tomorrow this is perfect I had like a 14 hour travel day and I smoked a joint and got really high and all of a sudden like the whole family comes rushing in into the kitchen kitchen lighting I remember it's so well and I was like

stunned and so awkward and I just got so high and I started to get like so paranoid that I just started speaking in greeting cards so you were talking to me about someone you were like dating at the time and I was like well home is where the heart is

like I just kept being like well you know you I was like why am I speaking in these phrases? You're like YOLO You did another one that was like shoot for the star

or something that was so funny. I don't remember which one it was, but you said a couple lines. Oh, we were laughing about it the next day because you came in the room and you were like, oh, my God. It was so funny. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects,

or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place will stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone?

Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything, from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest-ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos.

Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope.

This individual might lose the faith. But there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that. that ongoing intergenerational conversation, public.

Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care.

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I won't say whitewash because at the end of the day, you know, I'm me. But the whole pretending and cold, you know, it takes a toll on you. Listen to the new season of Grasasas Come Again as part of My Cultura Podcast Network on the IHartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness the way it has echoed and reverberated throughout your life, impacting your very legacy.

Hi, I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the profound and powerful stories I'll be mining on our 12th season of Family Secrets. With over 37 million downloads, we continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageous. told stories. I can't wait to share 10 powerful new episodes with you, stories of tangled up identities, concealed truths, and the way in which family secrets almost always need to be

told. I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season of family secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Did you have an expectation of what it was going to be and then did it surprise you that it was different? Yes. Really? Okay. Definitely for me.

I met Goldie the first time, too. Again, we were just, just, just dating. And Ollie and I were in the Capri kitchen. We had come home from, like, being out at the clubs and, you know, whatever. You guys in your clubbing. I know. clubbing days early 2000s maybe and Ollie was making me sourdough like butter toast and it was like our late night like snack or whatever we're down in the kitchen again like kind of like a

sexy you know like moment we're home I'm like sitting up on the kitchen counter that goes together for me yes and in walks your mom and Kurt but it was like second time I had kind of had a moment with Kurt already, but like they walked in from being out as well. And your mom just breezed in like a white tight ribbed tank top with no bra gold jewelry glistening. Come in right in. Hi, honey. Oh yes. Great. Can I have somebody for toast? Like starts eating my toes. Chatting away with me. Talking like we've met before. Like I'm just kind of there. Like no big deal. So casual. So comfortable. And just all of a sudden I'm like, oh my God, I'm meeting.

A, I'm meeting his mom, which I'm like late night sitting on a counter. And then I'm like, and B, I'm meeting Goldie Hawn. Like, wait, what's happening right now? And it was just like, she just breezed in talking, took a bite of my toast and like continued on. And so it was like, were you surprised that it was so casual that she didn't have any? 100%. And with both of them, what I will say, and I say this to everybody that asks, I look sometimes and I'm like, Goldie Groot is from Maryland, right?

I grew up in the East Coast. Kurt, you know, got some East Coast in him with Maine and, you know, his upbringing and traditional kind of, you know, being raised in the same way. They're so grounded in the sense of what they do is their job. And what I noticed in the very beginning, I would say like the first year is like, we'd be on vacation together, we'd be at dinner.

Never did like, not never, but like rarely. movies or work or jobs would come up. It was everything else. It's so interesting. The kids and travels and politics and life. And once in a while it would be, you know, this little comment. Oh, I'm going to go do this movie or maybe I'm auditioning for this part. But the difference of, say, like, how Meredith and I grew up, it was like even just getting an audition, it was like basically blasted in like my family and the news and like everything.

And you get a little tiny part on something. and you're basically your parents think you're Julia Roberts, you know. And then you walk into a family of- Not my family icons. And yeah, and they're like, oh, you're girl number one on CSI, you know, like, whatever. And I would be embarrassed to even like say anything, but they were very proud of me. You know, they would still be excited and like, oh, my God, that's amazing. And, you know, they just had a sense of family first always.

Yeah. Still. And the fact that they, you kind of like, yeah, I think it's interesting to hear like what your preconceived idea of something would be versus like what it ends up being, you know? Oh. Because I used to call my, fabulous. I used to call my parents the closers, right? It was like whenever I was like had a guy that I liked and I brought them home, it was like usually that person was always like, I want to be a part of this family. It's like the deal closer. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. They were sort of like, you know.

Yeah, the energy, the laughter, the humor, the self-deprecation, the, you know, or not taking anything too seriously, the sense of kind of fun and the business at their end, no one took too seriously. But yet, they're the most iconic, you know, incredible. It's also a little different now. Like when you met mom and pa, which was now 25, five years ago. Yeah. Um, they were like partying all the time.

Oh, totally. They were like having, you know, they're like, they're not as party, they're not as party centric as they used to be. Yeah. No, they were like hosting parties coming home from parties going out. We were always having a little more of that vibe. I know. Yeah, Meredith met when the parties sort of started subsiding and I met Kurt.

How about this? On his 50th. Oh, wow. Okay. I'm 52. Stop it. But at the Capri House, it was the surprise birthday party. I don't know if you remember.

Wow. And I went as a friend. This is like right around the same time of your 21st in a way, that same year or whatever. And yeah, he walked in from work. There was a whole like surprise party and all that kind of stuff going on. And then I did my 50th at that house again. Wow. How crazy is that?

And I went and had my 50th there. It's like so full circle. That is crazy. Okay. Who is the easiest to connect with? In the fam? Yeah, you go first because you... Like out of your parents or...

Of the whole family. Okay. So I met Wyatt when he was 13. So I'm going to go with Wyatt because he was a little teenager. No. I mean... Obviously me. Obviously you.

No, I was going to say, I'm like, come on. First of all, there was, everybody, you would think it would be so intimidating and you were, but you weren't. At the same time, I was like, this girl is wearing zero makeup, doesn't give a fuck and still looks hot as hell. So gorgeous, so comfortable. And it was like, immediately, we had been friends for like 15, 20 years. I was just talking to me, telling me things open. So, like, there was a little comfort in that, I will say. And then you disappeared and you were gone traveling the world, marrying a Ruckstar, and then having a baby.

So I was like, okay, I guess that's not going to be there for me now. So where do I go? What about you, Mare? It wasn't anything to do with you not being easy to connect with Kate. But I was like the other, I was like the new woman in Wyatt's life, which is a tricky one, like, to come into, you know. And I was this new girlfriend and like, without going into two or, I don't know. but um but but there was something that i really respect too which is just like you are on some level like how do you not when it's your siblings being like especially another actress it's like

we've all been conditioned to be like how are what are people's intentions and you were so sweet but it didn't it was just it was just as it should be like not an immediate like welcome to the family like it shouldn't be that that's not actually healthier now And I feel like my connection with everybody really grew very naturally over time in a way that Aaron felt the least like you were, you were just like, I've been like, I was like, come, come here, a little one. Let me take you in. Come, you know, it's funny. With your family for me, it was such a like, obviously iconic, these actor, everybody. But I really had fallen so hard.

in love with Wyatt that like I only it was like my brain couldn't make sense of it other than just like these are just the person that I love's parents it wasn't it was my friend dating somebody or like I'd be like oh my God it's who but because I just loved Wyatt so much and there's that familiar like my God it's so loud but there's that familiar like that we all know that feeling of just well you're still meeting in-laws you're meeting in-laws and sister no matter what is going to get, you know what I mean? Like, just anybody deals with that. Yeah, you're starting to get to know.

Yeah. But I mean, but even take the, take that part out of the equation. Like what was, what, what, who was the first person that you felt like the, like a, like a, like a connection with in the family. Like, yeah. Aaron. Oh, yeah. I mean, well, first of all, we both grew up very similar, like East Coast, you know, the parents, a lot of similarities there.

But you're also, it's like, okay, wait, you're the sister-in-law in this family. Give me the fucking down. I was like, hold on, let me just break down everybody for you. So these are their issues. This is what Thanksgiving is going to look like. Be prepared for this. And honestly, be prepared for a really fucking good time.

The great thing about Mary was you have the best, like, presence and energy. Everybody fell in love with you in literally three seconds. And also everybody saw how in love you were, why it was with you. I have a story. You guys are different. You know what I mean? Like me and Ollie, he was still so young.

We're dating. You're traveling the world. Like, Wyatt's off playing hockey. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah. I do have a lot to live up to after her. I remember when my mom told me that you and Wyatt met, Wyatt his new girlfriend. And I was like, oh, what's her name?

She's an actress. And, you know, I'm like, oh. And I remember Google. you. No. And the picture that came up on a boat. No. My Google image was devastating. I did not know you. The picture that came up was one that later Meredith told me about because she had gotten this sprayed tan. And I remember looking at this picture and I was going like, okay, okay. She looks like. Devastating. And I was like, all right, like it's, you know, she's really cute. She's a little, like, very strong orange strung tanner and i felt like g-dell i thought i looked so hot that night

that i was like don't we all we could look back i love that that's when i when i had to like go and try to find it like those were the pictures that came up and it was like oh god it just that was my favorite thing ever okay mothers let's talk about being mommies now years go by we are now all family, which people sometimes are like your family, your sister-in-laws. It's so crazy because you guys all look like sisters. You look like sisters. And, um, I don't think so. I don't think at all. Yeah. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place will stay in,

and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm, character, and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September, why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything, from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca. slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos.

Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers. were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith. But there's an institution that doesn't lose faith.

And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation, public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos

as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We were getting a little bit older and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing.

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Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In early 1988, federal agents raced to track down the gang they suspect of importing millions of dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia. We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns. and rifles and you name it. But what they find is not what they expected. Basically, your stay-at-home moms

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Once I saw the gun, I tried to take his hand and I saw the flash of light. Listen to the Chinatown Sting on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or anywhere you get your podcasts. I'd love to get into, like, some mothers, some like, you know, some parenting styles. Let's do it. I feel like we all have very different parenting styles. I feel like I'm still new enough as a mom or I'm like, is this a style? Meredith's like, what style do I am?

What's the style? Well, I'll just, I'll start by saying this. Survival and happiness, survival happiness. Is Kate was like, I don't even know. What were you when you had writer? 24. Yeah. So literally.

baby having a baby. But what's interesting is you and I had our babies kind of right together. So you're thrown into this like toddler and a newborn and the craziness. And Kate like elegantly had these like seven years apart. So she was like a different mom to each kid, I will say. That's such a cool way of looking at it. It's so cool. And like the evolution of who you've become as a mother.

As a mother. It's definitely weird. So amazing. And like I think that's the beauty. it you know because sometimes you're like do you have babies close together it's good for the kids but but but but but but but but but but but but but again my positive outlook on it's definitely interesting yeah each kid I mean you know had this like kind of real one-on-one time which is beautiful um and you got to evolve I mean you were in your 20s with Ryder literally your 30s basically

with Bing and Ronnie you know now in 40s but also just the evolution of what you learn from each kid what changes in the world of parenting and then also just having the two boys and then getting the girl which we both have which we both have and we're going to we're going to manifest a little baby girl so we have the two boys and the girls in the family so we'll obviously probably have a boy so we'll just see we're going to put some badges up but I do think if you look back that's what I said until it was time to find out what it was. I was like, it's fine if it's a boy. And then I was like, no, it's not. I did the same thing. I'm like pregnant. I'm like, wait a minute. If this is a boy,

it actually, I'll have a moment of tears. Tears. Like I will. And then of course, you love it. It's like, yeah, you love the baby. You know, of course. You have five boys and be happy. But it hit me like two months into my pregnancy. I was like, oh my God. So mine hit me. So we went for the third, you know, our story. Like, The first two, we didn't try. We were just very lucky and got pregnant. Third one, I was like, I'm going to be 40. Are we doing this?

Should we? Blah, blah, blah. Let's go for it. Did a few, like, things to try, you know, time of the month and this and that, whatever. And my doctor was like, just make sure you want a third kid. Actually, think about having a boy. Do you want three boys? And I was like, I actually do because I love being a boy mom.

You're the only one girl. Like, it's just great. I was like, okay. He goes, because I don't care what you do and what you try. You're, you know what I mean? There's a very good chance you're going to have a third boy. Don't do this because you want the girl. And I was like, yeah, no, not at all.

And then I thought to myself, I really want a girl for Ollie, okay? Because, like, I'm so close with my dad. I think he would be such an amazing girl, dad, this and that. That's when it started to creep up. So I was like, it's just in the little thought in the back of my head. But I was prepared for the boy. I remember I peed on the stick to see if I was pregnant. The two lines popped up.

And I was like, oh, fuck, I hope it's a girl. I had this, like, wave of emotion come up. I was like, oh, my God, it's already done. Like, we already, it's happened. It's figured out. It's already done. There's nothing else I can do. And it was that first real wave where I admitted to myself.

Oh, my God, I kind of. My doctor was right. I'll be devastated. I know. And I went in and I told him and I was like, it worked. And he goes, did it? He's like, did it really? He's like, you never know.

He's like, you can think it did. And he's like, but really is that it's just left to. to Mother Nature. But it's so funny because, like, our parent, I think our parenting styles are very different to go back to, like, oh, yeah, for sure. And, and, but Aaron and I have a very similar thing, which is we're super anxious when it comes to the kids doing it. Like, Aaron and I, like, when they were, like, BMXing, we'd be, I, we would, like, hide

in each other's necks. I'd be like, don't look, don't look. Don't look. Trampbellines. Oh, God. dirt bikes, skateboarding. It's like, Aaron and I just like go into the kitchen. We're just like, okay, I have to leave this area.

Let's go make a martini and pretend it's not happening. That they're doing things that are crazy. I always said that like she has the musical kids and I was like, I just want my boys to like play an instrument and be in a band because they're going to be nice and safe playing the clarinet. And instead they're like, yeah. They're like doing jumps off of trails. Erin, I mean, Aaron playing the clarinet, and it's not, check out.

But you get what you're, like, supposed to have. But Mare, like, you know, then I see Mare with her kids and they're like, you know, like climbing up the bed and they're like climbing on the concrete. And I'm like, I'm doing constant mental mathematics. And this is might be fucked up. I'm not good at math. So. My thing is, is can you die from this? And if the answer is yes I get fucking so anxious

So like I get really anxious About like car seats I get anxious about like Pools I can't even I even want to buy a house With the pool So I get crazy

If I can only If my brain goes to Broken bone Twisted ankle Splinter If you're like If there's a splinter We're out

I'm like Stop it What's wrong? I know Oh, what did happen? I am like, I will wake up in the middle of the night, panic, like choking, like, batteries, blueberries, popcorn, like the things that pop in my head. But I just, yeah, I don't, I don't know. I was really proud of myself as a sister-in-law because I literally I just showed Erin this video of me like bird feeding Ronnie.

And I was eating. Well, really, she was eating from my mouth, which was even funnier because I'm, like, eating my food. And she was just going right like a monkey. She's going right into my mouth, taking my food and eating it from my mouth. And I was like, this is very, this is gross. I mean, she's literally, this is kind of gross. But I literally, like, bird fed my kids. I mushed everything.

Well, you have a choking. We all have our triggers and our things. Choking is the big one. The head's biggest one is the choking. Mine is a cool. But mere. Mayer does that you do the self. Wee, baby lead weaning.

Baby lead, lead. And I literally, like, my cortisol level. I can't even be in the room. My cortisol level. And they're like, I can't. We'll be back. Like, Boone, like eating spaghetti. I'm like, oh my God, I can.

I can't. He was like gnawing on like a big, like, piece of chicken or something. I had Boone in my arms of the day. And he. Like, circle and anxiously around, like, the area. And I'm like, well. I know. we're all everyone oh everybody has their own thing and it's great but then like booed I was with

boone by myself like don't you want to chop and then and he was like you know wanted the app wanted an apple and I was like oh god I'm going to give him an apple I was like oh my god I'm going to do it I was like I'm going to do it because I can yep because it's not my child it's their child and and they give them apples and I so I like cut it up I cut him like a piece of apple and I gave it to him And he's just, he's so happy. And he's just shoving the whole thing in his mouth. And I'm just like having a heart attack. It's so.

Because I was really proud of myself. I'm proud of you. Me too. Baby steps. Baby steps. Ronnie's going to be seven. Oh. Yeah.

No, she's on, she, she just started solids. That's true. I wasn't going to say it on air, but now that it's out there. Yeah. We've gone from cream of wheat to oatmeal. It's a big year. Oh, my God. But so, yeah, so and then, but having boys, I will say, a lot of boy moms out there would agree.

You do have to kind of let him go and let him get hurt. Ollie was so good at that. He was such a balance for me where he's like, babe, their boys, let him go. And I was like, okay, I'll be stuck in my misery of being, you know, fearful. I also, I have this theory, too, and it's not a theory. just what I've found works. If I'm too, no, no, no,

don't do that. That's not something about things that aren't that dangerous. You're going to give them anxiety. I'm so psycho about, like the street and the pool and my voice gets firm and I just,

I have this thing with Buddy where it's like he now knows this is serious. And this is also something where it's like, hey, be careful jumping on that. You could hurt yourself. Is it different than...

Yes. And you're not putting it on. to them. Like that's what I had to learn. I learned that in therapy. I also learned that when Wilder captured with his bare hands a tarantula that we brought home in my car and I have like pretty much a pretty good case of arachnophobia. And I've never seen anything like your arachophobia. It's pretty bad. And so I had a pet tarantula and Oliver looked at me and I said, we're not bringing that thing home. He's like, yes, we are. You're not going to crush his dreams. He's already named it Harry. So we brought it home and went to Petco and got a, you know, container thing to put it in,

crickets to feed it. We brought it home. And I made sure that lock like basically could never come off. And Ollie looked at me and he said this great thing. He goes, don't transfer your, you know, fear of spiders onto the kids. He's a little boy, like let him be. So then we had a snake that ended up dying, which was not our fault because I was being very good about it. But it was quite sick and it was going. So I took it to the snake, the place. And I said some of it. He's like, yeah, it's not very well. Like, we'll give you another snake. We got another, same snake, another snake. And then one day, I woke up and the snake was gone. Oh. It was in Riders Room, snake gone. And it got into the house. It got out.

We have no idea where that snake is. We have no idea. That snake could be a living in the air ducts. And we know. Oh, I thought you still don't know. Absolutely no idea. Stop. What was his name again? You were like, we have no idea. I was in a delayed response to my part.

Yeah, like, what's going on? I like, I didn't realize what was going on. And then, oh, that's funny. I can't wait to see that's so bad. And the snake is gone. You guys, I have never found it. I never found it. That is such a like, you're always constantly probably, is that the kind of thing that like once every month pops into your head?

Like, where's this thing? Yeah, of course. And I mean, it's probably, I'm assuming would be dead by now. Yes, because you wouldn't have to be able to find food or, yeah. But I also was like, had to tell Ryder, I was like, honey, that this one got sick too. I had to take it back because I didn't want to say like he got out and could be in your room. In your room somewhere and pop up in the... And so I just...

And then every night before I would go to bed, I'd be like, what if the snake, like... You know the other crazy stories where like it strangles that... Oh, of course. So then I started panicking. Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, so I put like snake... It was a whole thing.

But we got through it and for sure. I mean, he's 21. He survived. If I got through it, nothing else. We were going to... Just wait. We had like. geckos, snakes, tarantulas, I don't know what Buddy and Boone are going to be into.

I was a real repress. You do. That's right. That's right. I'm like, it's one of my sexiest qualities. Yeah. I just want to say, you're both such good moms. Well, you're an amazing boy mom.

Watching you guys be moms because there's so many, like, nuanced depths to the experience of motherhood and new motherhood that, like, I'm only now feel like I'm processing feeling. and I've started just having such a love and respect, especially for you guys and the moms in my life, that really do inspire me. And like, nobody ever talks about being a mom is like embracing your unique gifts as a human being and just being that for your kids. Like watching you, Kate, this last, like, Easter time.

And, like, I just felt like you're so in your, you're such this, like, authentic. I would tell you this. but this like authentic place and watching your kids and this beautiful family that you've built that's like messy and complicated and gorgeous and fun and just like felt like everything was like clicked in this really and just watching you be so authentically you

and then sharing that with your kids and creating magic. That's not like homogenized magic or like some idea of motherhood that you feel like you need to like be. You're you and your you. and your eugeness is that gift to your kids. And it's the same with you, Erin.

So well put. It's like neither of you have lost. It's like my favorite thing to talk about right now because I feel so in it with the baby so little. But like, I just love watching each of you be fucking yourself. And like that's like to be fucking yourself. You know, it's funny you're saying is because I was just talking about this being, you know, when you go through these different stages of your kids' life, right? So it's like you have, you're in the sort of, you know, baby toddler years and then you

have the teen years. And then, you know, then you have the adulthood. And the thing that I've noticed is that you want them, you're, this unique thing is really only seen by them when they get older because you want them to want a different kind of like as much as they love you like it's actually a very human response for children to be like oh that life looks interesting oh but what about those people over there that's an interesting life too like it's actually good for them to look outside of the family to experience something else and sometimes they kind of reject you because they want to

want to go discover something new. Right. And that's a super normal response to, like, teenage years and when they're growing and individuating, then they get to be 21, like, right, or they get to be older and they get to reflect and start their, their young adult life of, like, what do I want to be? Who do I? And then they get to really see you. And that's when you go, like, oh, wait, I think I did a good job.

he likes me he liked his childhood true it's really interesting because you're in the moment and just going on that right you're going off instinct you know you might be nowadays there's so many podcasts

and things and you can learn and but really you're learning just like kids do by watching so you see your mom friends you know you see your family people that had kids before you and you're like ooh, I want to do it like that or I don't know if I would do that. You know, you're kind of soaking it all in as you go, but then you're thrown into the fire and sometimes the plan that you think, you know, the way you're going to mother or parent goes, you know, completely off

the tracks due to who your kid is. And so adapting to kind of who your child is and still being able to be kind of, you know, who you are is interesting. And, each kid is going to be different and kind of challenge you in those different ways. But on our end, you're looking at us, right? Because you're in it right now and you're like, wow, okay, two people to look up to and kind of their children and who they are. And we parents are very different. Amazing.

But we look back. I mean, you're still in it. Obviously, Ronnie is still, you know, little. But I can look so fondly and say, talk about doing things instinctually. and authentically. I mean, that is you to the core. You are like so just naturally like an incredible mom. And I'm going to sing your praises right now because I think it's true. But you are who you are. You're an amazing boy mom because you are all about adventure and all about kind of, you know, creating joy, which is who you are in your real life. Like when you, when Wyatt came home telling us about you,

the first, you know, moment, it was this girl that I can't describe it. I just want to be around her. And he is somebody who's, you know, kind of more internal. I mean, maybe, you know, obviously not with the family, but he was walking down a street. I think we should talk about Wyatt for a good 10 minutes just to like make him incredibly uncomfortable. Exactly. Wyatt Russell.

He was walking down the street with you. He's an adventure now. He has to be more open. this is true he's got to get ready you have to get ready by the way he wants to come on though oh good finally finally anyways my point was he was like i want to be around her she's magnetic and you pulled him in to do karaoke like walking down a street on a bar yeah oh my god i remember that story he's like she was like let's go let's go do karaoke he's like spontaneous doesn't feel like Wyatt going in and doing like karaoke in a bar you know what i mean but there he was and he's like

I'm doing all this because I wanted, she makes me want to do it, right? So that's who you are. That's who you are for us, right? You're fun. He also said to me before we met you, too, was that he was like, she, I know, I know her. Like, I know this person. This is familiar. Familiar?

Familiar to me. Yep. And he was just like, you're going to love her. Like, I remember him when you're going to love. Well, now, Kate, it's so funny because I feel so close. to you know, especially after like the fire and like that it is this weird thing where you're like, wow, I would be really good friends. We would be great friends. Oh my God. Even if I wasn't. And you too, Aaron, it's so fucking lucky to feel that. I mean, it's so rare. Where I'm like, why? Who? Like there's time for I'm like, oh yeah. Like, no. It's so great. And we all, it's like. It's like the best. I'm so grateful that my brothers were so smart. I'm also so much quiet right now, but I also think that, like, it's, I don't know, there's so much about motherhood that, I don't know, I was so scared. I didn't have, my sister obviously doesn't have kids and I, I didn't, hadn't been around babies ever, almost Rio and Bing were the two little kids that I had been around and they made me so excited and watching you guys be mothers, but also like, it is so singular.

it's your own experience and I just wasn't prepared for how like healing it is and I get to kind of like this like reparenting intentional that you also are like there is no right like there's no doing it right there's just this desire to love my kids and not I don't know I I also don't think there's enough like cultural narrative around and it's easy to say this when you're privileged and you have access to child care which is a really big thing like I wouldn't be able to be shooting this right now if I didn't have like an amazing nanny Gaga who's both you guys like helping like she has my kids right now I can go to work and be with you guys and keep my meanness when I need to tap into that like but so true nobody talks about how fucking fun it is like motherhood so fun to have kids because it's not so awful what are you talking about here's what I'll say I look back in fondness, as I was starting to say before, because I wasn't having as much fun as you are. And I look and I'm like, God, damn it. If I could go back. Well, that's because

of your anxiety. Anxiety. Yeah, it's just anxiety. Yeah. It was just, you know, it was just a different time. But I look back at you and I'm like, oh my God, you have so much fun. I was so much fun. I was a baby because I was so nervous. Like, am I doing it right? Is this what to do? And then even eating all that stuff. And I'm like, yeah, can we die? Like, let's have some fun. exactly I was oh I was like I took rider ever I had writer I started your free spirit vibe that transferred into being a free spirit mom even though you were so strict very strict and very tough you still had that free spirit of like let's go let's travel like you didn't say super structured yeah you know what I mean you were like instinctually like um you know more like mayor yes and the fact that I would travel and take the kids everywhere. I never went. I don't go anywhere without my kids. Yeah. I still am sort of like that. I kind of, yeah. It's not, it's not natural to want to. I mean, it's like, it's, they're your cubs. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, what am I doing? Every time I'm away, everyone's

with with Danny, like when we have a trip together, I feel like we need it. Like I was like, oh, wow, that feels really nice. But when I'm not, after like, three or four days, I'm like, what am I doing? Yeah. All I want to do is be with my kids. You know? September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure.

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Listen to the Super Secret Bestie Club As a part of the Marco Tura podcast network Available on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. What is the most challenging thing for you as a parent? If you could, I know there's a lot, but if you could really take, like, almost like in a relationship when there's like a core issue,

what is that core thing for you as a mom that is the most challenging? For me, it's like the constant, just me feeling like it's my job to manage my emotions and like be in the, like parenting myself along with my kids, which I know is because it is like there's moments where you want to, I don't, I want to be in possession of my emotions and I want them to not feel like their response. from from for my feelings and so that is really hard and really challenging and that is actually when I've been to like martyr I don't need help I need to do it by myself that's when it

starts to get harder and wear on me and so I love that I love that answer that's something I that I find challenging but in the challenge is such a fucking yes it's healing it's healing and it's so like I love anything that that's making you grow. I love that answer. What about you, E? I feel the same. So I totally agree. I would say, I would say, you know, you're so in the thick of it.

So to even be able to be aware of that is incredible. Again, another thing that I think is amazing about you, just in this motherhood journey, you're so present. But I would say I battle a little bit of not wanting to put my, anxiety or, you know, like anxiety or, you know, that kind of stuff on to them. And I find, obviously, Oliver was an incredible balance with that, but I do it with humor. I try to be aware of that kind of stuff, but it is a challenge. Like with the boys and they do risky things. So, like, obviously, you know, they're downhill mountain biking going off of jumps. They're riding,

you know, motorcycle, dirt bikes, skiing. I mean, they're fucking crazy skiers. all of that kind of stuff, right? But also just in life, I want them to be aware, you know, and so just, you know, trying to do that. I think without making them so nervous, I want them to go off and do all of those things and not hold them back. But I would say that's my biggest challenge. Yeah, I agree with that, too. It's like, I also feel like, too, it's like the more you trust them, the more that they trust. themselves. And I always say, I trust you guys. It's usually either mother nature or other people

around them that you don't trust. But I do. I do. No, no. I mean other people. Oh, I don't trust the other people. Yeah. Because like, you know, in therapy or whatever I learned, as long as you have kind of instilled in them the information and the safety that they need to know, right? If it's little kids crossing a street, if it's the boys and they have on their helmets and they know what to do in an emergency, blah, blah, blah. Then you got to let them go. It's just so it's really like you controlling your fears. Exactly. Like being in, yeah. Yep.

I love that too. I relate to all of these things. Or even just like, say having a girl too, like with Rio, there'll be certain things where I'm like, bite your tongue. Like just, you know, not want to fix things for them. The girl and like. Well, also just not even getting into the girl. That could be a whole other podcast, daughters, but not wanting to fix something. Yeah.

Right? Or doing it. Like sometimes I want to, you know, pick something because I see it in a certain way. But she loves it in that way. And I'm like, just let her love it that way. It's beautiful. So I'm a little more conscious, I think, of what's my feeling or opinion that I'm going to put off on them and trying to let them just have their own. Yeah. And let it be, you know, not. I asked the question and then I'm trying to think of what my core thing is. I don't have an answer. But if I was to just kind of go off the top of my head, I would say, my core challenge as a mother would be to not feel like I have to take it all on. Like I have a tendency to feel like I can do everything. I can be the mom. I can be the dad. I can organize. I can structure. I can be their best friend.

I could be their, I could be their, you know, parent. disciplinarian and I it really hit me most in COVID because I realized that I had this like almost like type A mothering thing where it was like I just have to do everything and then and then the challenge is then not being upset when I feel like I'm doing everything so it's like I bring it on myself, and then I get upset because I feel like I don't have the help or the support, even though I have a great partner. And it's my biggest challenge is to actually just let sometimes it go and not be a perfect moment. It's not all that important all the time. Yeah, like it's okay if like, you know, yes, exactly. And it's okay if someone forgot to make

Ronnie's lunch and I forgot to do it and you know someone else for it's like there's moments where I think because I'm so like I function at a certain kind of level which might not be normal I've never seen anything like it that it's like okay if like I say that like it sounds like I'm some sort of uptight person I'm really I'm actually not not but but I do have this thing where I just always feel like I, like, I'm carrying everything. And I think that that's something I do to myself. I don't think that's something that other people are doing to me. And, and, uh, and so it's like, that's the thing. You've learned to let that go. I would say even just with Ronnie. Oh, yeah. And seeing that a little bit more. Oh, it's much. It's changed so much in the last,

like, five years for sure. Well, it's also a desire. It's like, it's hard to feel like if you've got 50 things. The amount of stuff I watch you juggle Kate between career and companies and family and I mean it's crazy. I feel like I etch out my small little chunk and that's all I can handle because I because I don't know I honestly don't know how you do it but it's true it's like I'm sure it feels like if if one thing falls then the whole thing will drop and then realize I'm like, wait, no, this can be forgotten. Well, that's the thing. It works.

She's good at it. She knows how to do it. It's just having actually the ability to kind of reflect a little and say, you know what? Like, maybe if I let that go, it's going to make it easier for me and everyone else around me. And like, and like I think I overcompensate with wanting to be there for the kids and do everything for the kids just based on my own childhood. The fact that, you know, my, my situation with my father, the fact that Gogo was. you know, worked a lot when we were kids. I wasn't there as much as sometimes I wanted her to be there.

And, and so, so it's like I do all these things, but then I want to be everything for my kids and do everything. And sometimes I just need to like, like not be there for the kids. Sometimes I want to be like, it's okay, right?

To like not go. Yes, not go. I mean, look, you would, We all take things from our childhood, which is a perfect example of, I think, why both you and Oliver are like that. You do not want to be away from your kids. That is literally due to kind of part of your childhood. And there was amazing things by your childhood, and then there was more harder things. But you kind of learn your parenting style and you're going to take away things. We're going to, you know, from our parents. Also, the balance that I'm finding is

like impossible. It's like this elusive idea. Like, I don't know what balance is. I'd love to meet the person that finds it. I find like momentary feelings of today we're between 12 and three the balance struck. I love you guys. This has been so much fun. What is the Mother's Day plan? I think I can fly back. I think I can fly back from Vancouver because I'm not I'm going to bring the kids and come back for like five days. Yes. It'll be together. What are you guys doing? Are we going to, well, we were going to go to the desert? We were going to go on vacate together away from everybody. Yeah.

We're leaving. We're going to Mother's Day. And here it's early summer in Europe, so we're leaving the kids. Hi. Happy Mother's Day. Oh my God. I feel like there was so much more we could discuss. We need like a part two, Mother's Day, moms and sister-in-laws.

Well, hopefully we'll all be together. My favorite mothers in the world, I love you so much. I know this was the best. You're both the best time, send pictures. I know, you and your little baby boys. Love you. You look beautiful. I know.

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