Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Turning Trauma Into Triumph with Tony Robbins (Part 2)

Episode Date: March 7, 2024

Motivational Coach and Best Selling Author Tony Robbins is known world-wide for spreading positivity, and practical advice on how to live a better life. But the multi-millionaire says his upbringing w...as far from fortunate. A mother battling addiction, several step-dads, and even times of hunger at home...Tony steered himself and his siblings through the toughest times. Find out what single event changed his life forever, what he says is the trick to becoming wealthy, and why he says he can fix depression faster than any meds on the market.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:58 on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time, as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians, artists, and activists,
Starting point is 00:01:15 to bring you death and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. The Moment is a space for the conversations we've been having us, father and daughter, for years. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos, on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Kate Hudson. And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
Starting point is 00:01:44 And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Sibling rivalry. Don't do that with your mouth. Sibling, revelry. That's good. Hello, revelers.
Starting point is 00:02:13 The revelination. The revelination. We are back with Tony Robles. Honestly, he's the best. So let's just delve right back into it. Yeah, yeah. Okay. You've been doing this.
Starting point is 00:02:27 for so long. I mean, you, how many years now? I mean, you've been, it's like, do you find that it's getting harder to reach people? No. You think, you think there's more people that are willing and ready to make different choices in their life. It's almost easier. People are like searching for identity now. They want to learn who they are, I think. Well, and, and anxiety, depression, you know, suicidal ideation is more relevant and expansive now than it's ever been. Well, people usually reach out to me in one of two areas. They're either the best in the world at something. They always reach out to me because they know, you know, I can learn a little thing,
Starting point is 00:03:10 a little 10 degree shift in my life, take it out a month from now, a week from now, six months from now. I have a totally different destination or destiny or result. So people like that are always hungry. So who comes to me if somebody's hungry? They're hungry because they're the best or they're hungry because there's a pain in their life or there's something new. They had a birthday with a zero. They're going through a divorce. They got an empty nest. They've been doing something for 20 years successfully and now they're bored
Starting point is 00:03:33 out of their mind and it doesn't matter. They want something more. When people are hungry, that's when they reach out. And there's a lot of hunger in the world all over because people know a standard education won't get you anything anymore. A standard occasion gives you standard results which most humans don't want. So you got to have an extraordinary education. You have to be self-educated. You have to pursue it. And that's also why coming back, you mentioned the whole I want to mention that because that book, I've written three financial books. It's trilogy. It never intended to be a trilogy. I was pissed off because I saw what happened in 2008. And I've worked with Paul Tudor Jones, one of the top 10 financial traders in the history of the world for now 25 years, I guess, a little more than that. And so I knew what had happened. I knew it was going on. And it made me crazy. The small number of people almost destroyed the world economy. And the way we punished them within a few years, because we gave them more money. It was just like, what's the matter? So I was like, like, okay, I'm only one person, but I do have one gift. I have access. Because of the work I do, I've got access to the most powerful people in the world. I'm going to give you 50 of the smartest
Starting point is 00:04:33 financial people in the world, the Ray Dalus, the Carl icons, the Warren Buffets. And I'm going to find out if this game can still be wonders that totally rigged. And I interviewed them. I spent four years on the project. I wrote this 758 page book, which came to number one New York Times bestseller and still is the bestselling financial book of the last two decades. So I'm really proud of it. And then I wrote Unshakeable, a second book, two years later, because I knew everyone's going to forget all that the minute the market drops. And the market's always dropped. There's always a bare market. I didn't know when.
Starting point is 00:05:01 I don't know what's going to be COVID. So I prepared people for that. And I thought I was done. And then what's happened is, you know, one of the people that I work with is Ray Dalio. He is the most successful hedge fund trader in history. I just got his book. Yeah, good. He's got, which one?
Starting point is 00:05:17 The latest one. What is it on? On the New World Order. The New World Order. Yes, so he's brilliant. He's one of the smartest people who I've been in the business 50 years. And one day I said to him, you know, I spent like 13 hours preparing for a 30-minute interview that went four hours. He and I really got into it and became friends.
Starting point is 00:05:35 So I said, out of all the principles I've ever learned from you, if there's only one principle that would guarantee financial success long term, what would it be? And he said, Tony, I've wrestled with that for 20 years. And he said, I can tell you, the holy grail of investing. That's the title of the book. It comes from him. is this. Everybody wants to get to their goals, and the only way you do that
Starting point is 00:05:55 is either more money invested or greater returns or both, but to try to get greater returns, you've got to take more risk, and the more risk can cost you everything. Every brilliant billionaire knows something called asymmetrical risk reward. It means how do I do the least amount of risk
Starting point is 00:06:10 for the most amount of upside? That's why they're wealthy. They don't take giant risks and hope for the best, like people think they do. It's not how it works. If they do that and become a billionaire, they don't stay that way.
Starting point is 00:06:19 So he said, But all you got to do is find eight to 12 uncorrelated investments. Now, for your audience, uncorrelated just means when things are correlated, they tend to move in the same direction. When they move up, they move up together. We move down, move down together. When they're not correlated, they move the opposite. So, for example, stocks and bonds.
Starting point is 00:06:36 Most people know that when the economy is going great, stocks tend to go well. When it's not going great, then they drop in bonds tend to be what protect you. Except in 2022, they both went down. 2008, they won't build down. I won't walk you through all the boring details about that. but it's really hard to find eight to 12 uncorrelated investments because if you do, you reduce your risk by 80% and you increase your upside. So I was like, and by the way, after he told me this, I wrote it down and went to work on it.
Starting point is 00:07:01 And about a month later, I was speaking at J.P. Morgan's, they have this alternative investment conference. And you have to be a billionaire to go, a billion dollar net worth. And I was a speaker, so I got to go. And Ray was right before me. And somebody asked him a very similar question. And he said, the holy grail investing. And I watched all these billioners who had never taken a note the entire day. brought their heads and write like crazy because it's so simple.
Starting point is 00:07:22 But then, how do you find that? That's why I wrote this book, because the only way you find it is you have to go to where the wealthy people go. And they use alternative investments, private equity, private credit, and private real estate. And up until now, the government has not allowed, except the richest people in the world, have access to that. You have to be an accredited investor, which means you have to have a million dollar net worth, not counting your house,
Starting point is 00:07:46 or make $200,000 a year or $300,000 as a couple as a minimum to even get into these things. Well, I've always said this is so unfair. The people that need it the most have to go over and get pittily returns and these people get these giant returns. And when I say giant returns, I interviewed 13 of the best in the world.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And most of these people don't even do interviews because you can't get in their funds. They're already sold out. But they have enough relationships and so forth to open the door. These people run $20 to $100 billion funds where they make 20% compounded per year for a decade. Some of them 30%.
Starting point is 00:08:22 That's crazy. Imagine that kind of return, right? So let me give you an example. Most people have heard of the S&P 500. If you have a 401K, you probably have some of it in the S&P 500. The top 500 companies, the index for that for the New York Stock Exchange. Well, it's done well in the last 35 years. If you just left your money in there, it's made 9.2% return compounded over 35 years.
Starting point is 00:08:44 What does that mean? It means basically you double your money every eight years doing nothing. It's pretty cool. But if you put your money not in the people that I wrote this book about, not the 20, 30% people, but the average private equity, it's 14.2%. So what does that mean? It's a bunch of numbers. It means you making 50% more money every year compounded.
Starting point is 00:09:05 So watch, you had $100,000 and you put it in the stock market 35 years ago and forgot about it, guess what? It's worth $2.6 million today. Pretty amazing. But if the same money was an average private equity, not these guys, it would be worth for you today 13.9 million, or a million's worth 26 million or 139 million if he started with a million dollars. So I wanted to bring that to the general public. So now the law is changing. Congress says, okay, you shouldn't have to be, you know, because you have money, you may have inherited it. So you should be able to take a test. And if you pass the test, you should be able to access these things. And so the House has passed that bipartisan, which is amazing. The Senate is now picking it up. It should be done in the next 90 days. And so anyone could do it.
Starting point is 00:09:49 But here's your next problem, getting in. Now, you guys, you know, you're well-known, and maybe you can get in some of these places, especially UK. You've got a lot of fame. And I'm sure Oliver along the way can find some of your friends that are there. I had a good brand and I've got some money. Hold on.
Starting point is 00:10:03 I'm famous. Yes. I just want you to know, I'm fucking famous, too. Big time. Like, we'll walk down the street. They're going to know you, but there's going to be at least one and a half percent that know me, too just so you know
Starting point is 00:10:16 keep going you know I was able to get little slices in these groups but it all goes for decades it's gone to the biggest banks to the pension funds to the ultra wealthy right? So most people even if they could get in you can't get in it's like the room of sharks
Starting point is 00:10:32 I say it's like the room of sharks they just invest in each other it's like they just circulate their money and make it grow right and grow and you're like yeah if you look at the Fortune 400 billionaires and you say what industry is the most billionaires, most people think it's tech, it's not. Then they go real estate, it's not.
Starting point is 00:10:50 It's private equity. They are the masters of the universe, and there's a reason why, because the returns they get are insane. But here's what's interesting. I'm talking a friend of mine who's a very wealthy guy, and I was lamenting about, you know, man, I get pieces of ease, but not big enough to make a difference. And I really want to do this. It's so frustrating.
Starting point is 00:11:07 And he smiles and says, okay, you've done so much for me, I got to tell you where I put most of my money. And this is the kind of guy when he does that, you lean forward. to listen. He's very, very sharp. He goes, there's this company in Houston, Texas, called Cass. And he goes, when he said Houston, I'm on Houston, not New York, Singapore, London. He goes, yeah, they're outside the bubble. And here's what they've done. You know how you're fighting to get a little piece of these, one of these funds? He said the biggest funds in the world, they've put together billions of dollars, and they bought into partnerships in these funds. So when you
Starting point is 00:11:39 invest in a private equity fund, they call you a limited partner. A general partner is the owners of the company. And they don't have one fund. They have all their funds. And if you may know, they charge you 2% of your money, and they tie it up for five years usually. And people are more than willing to do that. And they get 20% of the upside. And they're willing to do it because the returns they get are unbelievable. So, but think about this. They're guaranteed if they only have a billion dollars for five years, $100 million in net income guaranteed before the, and then they get 20% of the upside. They usually will double in that period of time. A billion dollar fund becomes $2 billion. They make $200 million. And I'm $100 million. They make $300 million and a billion dollars. And by the way,
Starting point is 00:12:17 people I'm building with their $20 billion to $100 billion. You can do the math in your head. It's unbelievable. So he said, now you're a partner right beside them. And you're not being charged $2.20. You're getting the $2.20, which makes you about 10% a year. And then you get the 20% upside growth in the company. So wait, you're not a limited party. You're a general. Well, yes. And most wealthy people don't even know this. This is so crazy because there's only few firms that have been able to do this. And so I met with a group and I started investing them. So I own 65 private equity firms, some of the biggest on earth. And I get the two and 20 on these compound returns of 20 to 30 percent. It's ridiculous. And I'm not there running it every
Starting point is 00:12:56 day. But do you have to be, but this is all a relationship based situation? No. Okay. So explain how the lay person, someone like myself, can take part in something like this. You just You'll read in the book. I'll show you where to go, who to be a partner of, and everything else. You just call it. You can interview, but there's no limitation for you unless you are, you know, the second, the Senate has to punish their second portion for you to participate in some of this. And that should happen the next 90 days. But you want to be the first ones in until while the opportunity is there. And that's why I wrote it. But there's also, you probably know, inflate, you know, obviously with inflation interest rates have gone crazy, right? So if you had a house and you have a mortgage and it was 3% and it was fixed, you're a happy camper. But if you didn't, And it's gone up two and a half times now. You're paid almost three times of money for the same house. It's painful. Well, in private equity, these people also make loans now to big companies.
Starting point is 00:13:52 Because since 2008, the banking industry is tightened. And I'm sure you saw what happened up in, you know, Silicon Valley Bank and some of these other banks. So it's gotten tighter and tighter. So they have so much money and they're so good at evaluating companies. They now loan the money to those companies. So a lot of people, two years ago, three years ago, say 20, 21, no one got anything for their bonds. So a lot of people are just trying to get some return.
Starting point is 00:14:16 And so they went for junk bonds. And they were only getting 3.9% for huge risks. We were getting 9% in private credit and they have a 1% failure rate. A bank would die for that. So that industry is growing massively. And then there's one more you should know about sports. Like I grew up and I wanted to be a professional athlete. You know, my father was a former semi-pro baseball player.
Starting point is 00:14:39 I bled Dodger Blue, who had no money. up in the right field at the very, very top lead your seats, cheering them on, you know. And then, so now I own a piece of the Dodgers. But the first sports team I got involved was the LASC football club. And it took a lot of money and a lot of years to get to that point and reputation.
Starting point is 00:14:56 And they take you through a year with a microscope to approve you. So we built the stadium. I got to participate in all that and won our championship and had a great time. And I moved to Palm Beach, so I'm never at the games anymore. always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just
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Starting point is 00:18:04 you still a Dodger fan though oh still a Dodger fan too and on a piece of a billion dollars spent this year some shit better happen I mean we better get through the first round of the playoff I'm going to explain to you why they did that so so Peter Goober is a friend of mine I think you may go yeah yeah I literally just ran into
Starting point is 00:18:26 Elizabeth yeah I mean Elizabeth I literally we grew up on the Goober family yeah we grew up with them but I just ran into her at like Creation. Right. Getting smoothies. Peter's been my friend for about 35 years. And as you know, he's no dummy.
Starting point is 00:18:42 That's for sure. No. He's 52 a cat of war nominations. Yeah. He's done so many things. He owns police of the Warriors, the Dodgers, and so forth, the L-AFC. So here's what's happened with sports teams. They've changed the rules. For the first time, three years ago, they made it.
Starting point is 00:18:57 You've got to be a billionaire. Now, private equity funds that don't use leverage, which is very few, and they don't have an owner that, owns a team, if they have the right relationship can make a minority investment in this. So just like you own IBM, you can own a piece of a sports team. Now, why would you want to do that besides fun? Well, number one, they're a monopoly. So a legal monopoly, no one can compete with you in your city. Number two, they have fanatic customers. That's what fans means. They're fanatics, right? Multi-generational. Number three, when inflation happens, it doesn't matter. Stock
Starting point is 00:19:28 market drops through the floor, the sports keep going. And you look at over the history, 60s, 70s, the pandemic. They still did unbelievable. Even when they shut down the stadiums, they did well, because they're no longer just butts in seats. They're real estate companies and their media companies. So here, I'll give you the example with Peter. So Peter, with Magic Johnson, a group of people, and I'm an investor too. They bought the Dodgers for $2 billion several years ago. No one had paid $800 million. It was the most anyone paid for a baseball team. So people said the Dodgers might be worth a billion. But he's insane. They'll never make their money back on $2 billion. just like you're thinking about the team member they just hired all that way yeah yeah so guess what
Starting point is 00:20:09 i go to peter and i'm on a best too but i before i i know you're no dummy every says you're nuts every single media person said he was nuts and i said how are you doing it and he said tony you know i like you know to have a little cliffhanger he said i'll announce on tuesday when i announce call me come over we'll have a little party so on tuesday they announced he sold the local TV rights to the Dodgers for $7 billion and made $5 billion. Just the local TV rights. And when you own, and when you own like, when you own a major league baseball team or an NBA team, you get one 30th of all the other NBA teams of the media then for the
Starting point is 00:20:46 world and the international. So you have a huge, and you can be the worst team and you still get. If you are, an NBA, NBA in terms of media is probably the biggest because it has such a global presence. And also, but then. No, no, NBA is actually, I think, the number one when it comes to a global. That's also what we call soccer, which is even bigger. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:05 And there's F1. So, you know, I have a piece of the, the F1 team that's going out there. We've got a piece of several teams overseas. I've got a piece of the Dodgers and the Red Sox. I got a piece. Okay. Hold on. Wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Hold on. No, no, you hold on. Real quick with the sports thing. We'll get off the sports thing. The private equity situation, if you are invested in a private equity firm that has a piece of the Dodgers. Are you participating in that local sale? Yes, but you don't do that, but it's better than that. What you can't normally do is on multiple teams. And now you can have a piece of them in this minority interest in multiple teams. So here's what you need to know.
Starting point is 00:21:45 Michael Jordan, he bought the Hornets, right, and got the name back, Charlotte. He bought them 11 and a half years ago for 275 million. He just sold it to a group of investors. I'm a part of it for $3 billion. We're all thrilled to do it. He's made a lot of a thousand percent return just in nine and a half years. And it's standard. If you look at the stock market in the last 10 years, 10 years, it's then 11 percent compounded. If you look at major league baseball, the NBA, NHL, and major league soccer, not the NFL, just those four on average, it's 18 percent compounded. It has no correlation to the stock market. So it can go to the floor and it doesn't matter. You're still going to do well. My first question, I have two questions.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Two-parter. Number one, how do you keep all of this in track? What does your day look like? you've got like a thousand million companies you've got a thousand million investments you're probably talking to so many different people you've got millions of people around the world who are vying for your time and energy do you drink what do you well no that's not my question if i drank i couldn't do it that's that's what i'm asking what is your what does your day look like well i have um five kids and five grandkids and one of the great gifts that you know i've had to find gifts out of COVID because I would go crazy, right? One of great gifts is my wife and I were trying to have a baby for years. And then we pretty much gave up on it because I'd live
Starting point is 00:23:06 275 days on the road and my wife would come with me on 90% of that because we don't want to be apart. But all of a sudden I found a way I could reach millions of people and be home and have the same impact. So I go into the studio, which is around the corner that I built and go and work with a million people for four days, but each night come home and be with my daughter. So my mornings are my workout and my daughter usually and then boom my day begins and but i've got you know if you're it's very different if you're an operator versus an owner that's the biggest difference in business i do a whole five-day like boot camps for businesses just beginning businesses multi-billion dollar businesses to teach them to do this so i have such great team members that i structure my time i
Starting point is 00:23:48 some of these people i talk once a week some it's once a day someone's once a month i know what's need in each area. And then of all those companies, 12, I manage actively. The rest, I'm there strategically. So I'm there for the board meetings. I'm there for the elements that make those decisions. And to me, I got to work out. I got to be with my family. I got to have a good time and I got to serve. What's your vice? What's your vice? What's your vice? Or do you have a vice? Well, sure. No sleep is one vice. I mean, do you, you don't drink, like you don't smoke weed, you know, or maybe you do. I mean, you're not going to say it even if you do. I don't know. Hey, you never know. I mean, a lot of these CEOs are microdosing LSD these days. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:33 I know. I know. I got some friends. Yeah. So I'm just saying like, what do you do to unwind? I don't even drink coffee. My family says if that, if we ever gave him coffee, much less cocaine or something else, we'd be screwed. My advice is, I don't know what's their device. What do you have fun? How do you have fun? How do you have fun? Do you like a fish? Do you like to golf? I golf, we like six holes. I don't know. We pick the holes we like and we go do the holes by the water type of thing.
Starting point is 00:24:59 My wife and my family. I love to scuba dive. Yeah. You know, I've helicopters and have fun with that. Yeah. You know, I snowboard. But I love what I get to do and I love my family. And my family's involved.
Starting point is 00:25:10 You know, it's our mission to serve people. So, you know, of my five kids, you know, I have a about to be three-year-old daughter and I have a 49-year-old daughter. Because I was married, earlier. I married a woman had been married twice before me and I adopted her kids. So I was 24 and had a 17-year-old son, an 11-year-old and a 5-year-old, and then went along the way. That's me. I started early, and then I've got 20. I've got 5.
Starting point is 00:25:34 And then, of course. 25? I didn't know that. Yeah, I've got 20, and then I have a 12 and a 5-year-old. And then, you know, my man wants another one. I'll be a grandma and have a kid in school, you know. No, my wife, I said, my wife, I don't want to have a kid past 50. and now I had one at 61 so it's like I said I want to be at their high school reunion at 70
Starting point is 00:25:56 and I'm going to be there at 80 oh my god exactly look it just is it is what it is it works out exactly the way it's supposed to do you have to when I'm talking about vices and you as a young man you've been doing this for a long time did you have to sort of tone it down meaning were you out there even doing you know doing what you're doing but having a good time and did you have to focus yourself in any way. You know what I mean? Did you ever have slip-ups? Did you, and what are your issues? You know what I mean? Well, that's a, that's another podcast. No, no, it's not. I want to know what, I want to know how Tony Robbins is fucked up. Like, what is your, what is your problem? I'm going to be 64 in a couple weeks. And if I still had issues at this point in my
Starting point is 00:26:40 life, you should punch myself in the face. You can't, this bullshit of my issues and so forth that people have, you know, things show up all the time. You know, it's like you got a three-year-old and you got all hell breaking loose, and you're traveling and everything else. But it's like, I'm so grateful, I don't mean to disappoint you, and I'm not being phony. It's just like I've ran in all kinds of challenges, challenges in business, challenges in life.
Starting point is 00:27:02 It's not like it's been a smooth road of any sort. That's total bullshit. Of course not, right. You know, there's no straight lines in life. Anything in life is, you know, see, you go to nature, it's a straight line, a human drew it, because everything in nature goes up and down. But the overall, if you're growing, is still up,
Starting point is 00:27:16 and I'm at this stage in my life, you know, I always tell people, I didn't know this, and I want people to know it. Zero to 20, zero to 19, zero, 20 is a certain stage of life. It's different for everybody. But to a certain extent, there's some protection, even if you went through a rough childhood, I did too. But it's still fairly protected. And you're, well, you know, 21 to say 41, you're the soldier of society.
Starting point is 00:27:38 You now go and say, I was taught all this shit, but now you get to decide what do I believe? And you go test it. And you think you're unbreakable. You know, you're going to be president of the United States, a billionaire and have 100 relationships, simultaneously and everyone's going to be happy, right? But then you discover you have one relationship and you can't even manage that thing effectively, right? The area that people are, all the studies show most unhappy is that stage. Then 42 to 62, or 43 to 63, depending on you chunk it, is a stage in which you come into your power.
Starting point is 00:28:09 If you grew during the springtime of your life and the summer, you continue to push yourself and grow, then you get to reap. It's, you know, the autumn of your life. and the reaping is phenomenal, it's relationships, it's friendships. I remember Peter Guber, right, we both know. He's 18 years my senior and he's my dear, dear friend, right? And he would tell me this is what it's like at this stage of life. And I think to myself, yeah, for you, but I don't know if that'll be the same for me.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Some things are very similar if you keep growing. And I remember Peter talking about how, you know, the world is a small place and there's a limited number of people that play in the game, for example, that you're in Kate. So it's like he goes, the talent pool is not elastic. He's telling me these things. And now I experience that. Now I can do more with my pinky than I used to do working 24 hours a day because I know the right people. I know the right strategies.
Starting point is 00:28:56 I know the tools. So it's not like my life is so perfect, but it feels that way because I work my ass off to this stage. Okay, okay. I'm going to phrase a little differently. If you're white, you leave the screen and now your wife comes in. And I say, wife, wife, you tell me what, what are Tony's issues? What do you get?
Starting point is 00:29:14 What are you like, dude, you've got to be better at this, honey? because I just like, I need more of that. Yeah. What would your wife say? What, yeah. We'll ask her that. She says he doesn't sleep and there's some major truth to that. I've been working on it.
Starting point is 00:29:27 But it's like I get turned on at midnight and sometimes I'll go to four in the morning and I got to be at 8.30 in the morning. And so that part I have to change because it's- Yeah, you've got to sleep. That definitely is it. But, you know, I used to say I'll sleep when I die, which is not a good thing. Because I keep doing that, I'll die soon. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects,
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Starting point is 00:32:39 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Tony, this has been just the absolute best. I could talk to you first. I know. It's really fascinating. I have so many personal questions. I'm going to save that for another time because, but you're, you just said something that just hit me, which is like when you turn the 43 and I feel this right now, how old are you right now? I'm I asked that of the lady. 44, 44. Oh, my God. Look at you. But I, I feel I've shifted in the last two years. Yes. Yes. And what's, what's interesting about it is that everyone else. feels it. She's much angry here. No, but it's like, it's like, I'm in what I'm calling like activation mode. And as things are changing, as I'm changing, you can tell that the people around you start to change or they feel the shift. And I-
Starting point is 00:33:40 You're going to get up at a different level. And I'm here to tell you it happens again around 60. Like every birthday I had, okay, I'll give one of my vices. Every birthday I had from 30 on, you know, people tell me, you're going to have a midlife crisis and all them. I was all that's all bullshit. But I really did. At each of those, I hadn't done enough. I haven't helped enough people.
Starting point is 00:33:58 I helped millions of people. The probably late 50s, by my 60th birthday, was the first time my life where it's like, I wake up, I've helped millions of people. I don't have any less drive, but it's like, it's a great life. It's not like you don't, you're not trying to prove to yourself what you're capable of. You know who you are. You know, if other people think differently, it's okay. You know, I love it for people to be able to help as many people. I'm not the right guy for everybody.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I don't, and I don't care, quite frankly. I love everybody that wants to be helped or loved. I'm happy to do it. But it's like you're not, your life is not tied to it anymore. You just know who you are. And you know, you've lived enough life. You want to mentor people because you've been through so much shit. You don't want other people to go through the pain.
Starting point is 00:34:38 And that's the one gift you can give at that stage of life. Well, I'm going to, I'm going to end it with a Barbara Walter's question. I'm ready. You're not going to cry. So you've helped so many people, but who helps you? Great Barbara Walters. My wife by far. No bullshit.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Greatest gift in my life. This is kind of, we're entering our 25th year together, quarter of a century. And I think about my life before sage and after sage is there's no comparison. I wake up every day with so much joy. She's one of the most brilliant people, spiritual, people, smart as a whip, but also funny as hell. When I first met her, I said, I'm a serious mofo. I want to laugh more. Sometimes I wish I hadn't said that to her. But no, and then, you know, I have so many dear friends. Peter's one of them. Ray Dalio's another one. Mark
Starting point is 00:35:31 Benyoff from Salesforce. You know, we've developed such a deep friendship over the decades. So I'm very, my friendships, my family, I think I was chosen family and family, and my chance to have a mission that's meaningful. You're not happy every moment of your life. If you're happy all the time, your face hurts, right? Yeah, exactly. But what's meaningful, having a life that's meaningful, well, you know you're serving something more than yourself, because it doesn't take much to meet your own needs, right? But you can find something to get you up early, and keep you up late and excite you. And it has, you know, there's two types of motivation. There's push and pull. I'm not in a motivation per se, but drive. Which is you trying to do it. And no matter how much
Starting point is 00:36:10 will you have, that'll eventually wore out. But if you've got pull, if there's something you want to serve more than yourself, whether it's your kids or it's something in your community. And I'm not talking about virtual signaling bullshit. I'm talking about you know what really drives you. When that's real and alive, you have energy like nobody else around you. Those people are just trying to take care of themselves. And that's a big mistake, I think. Yeah, that's a great, that's a great message. Tony. Thank you. And I'm going to, I can't wait to read your book, man. I really am excited about it. Yes. Anybody gets it. We've donated all the money. Just having the last three books. So while you're helping yourself, you'll be feeding people, they're feeding America.
Starting point is 00:36:43 love that. That's awesome. By the way, we share the same mission. I have been, yeah, I'm a global ambassador for the World Food Program, and I just am very. David, Governor Beasley is a dear friend of mine, and we're partnering on the 100 billion meals challenge now that he's left the UN. He's left the World Food Program. Oh, great. Great. I love that. Well, offline, tell me more about it, because I mean, I'm just, that's my number one. And I can't wait to read the book. I mean, for real. I'm really excited. I want to read all three, honestly. But do I start with one? Well, start with this one because I think it will excite you. And then you might want to go to do Money Master the Game if you're just beginning the journey as well.
Starting point is 00:37:20 I want to say this to you also, Oliver, please come to one of the events as my guest. Because you're experiencing what most Americans are experiencing, which is this anxiety from all the uncertainties in the world. And you deserve to be wired properly for yourself so you don't have to take something on the side. I have zero judgment about it whatsoever. And I think you made the right choice probably for where you were. But it would be great for you to have freedom for that for your future. I would love to, man. Thank you for that invitation.
Starting point is 00:37:46 I will take you up on it. And if I read your book and invest and lose everything, I'm calling you. You should immediately. All right, buddy. Thank you so much. Bye, Tony. My son, Steve, both. Say hello to your mom, movie.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Yes, we will. Later, brother. Bye. I'm so inspired. I am too. I love him. I feel like we got to go to his thing. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:38:08 I'm going to do it. Let's do it. He's the best. He looks. And he looks beautiful. He looks amazing. He's all slick. His lighting is good.
Starting point is 00:38:17 I'm looking at me with the beard and both of us, really. I'm more like this. I love what he said. He goes, that's a trophy you are holding for yourself. Yeah. It's not news to me. I know. Well, it's not news to any of us.
Starting point is 00:38:31 It's not bad. Yeah. But he put it so perfectly. It is. You know. I know. But it's a trophy that I like shine and play proudly because it is fodder. for my humor and for my self-deprecation.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Right. Well, and also... And by the way, I kind of believe and kind of don't, you know? But I know I'm dope, by the way. I mean, I want to be clear. Like, I know I'm cool. You just, you're just holding on to it. You don't even realize what the next stage of your dopeness is. I think I do.
Starting point is 00:39:02 No, but to you, you're... It doesn't mean that that little trophy doesn't go and up on the shelf. Right. It just means that you're not holding it anymore. Right. Like carrying it around. You're just, you're like, you're like, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're, Yeah, it's in the display case.
Starting point is 00:39:17 All right, we got to wrap it up. This is like now or not. I love you. I want to do that. I want to go with you. I'm like, oh, I got to somehow connect with him. That was the best. Thank you, Tony Robbins.
Starting point is 00:39:28 Thank you. Everybody enjoyed this. And Tony, I'm an actor, too. I've been in things. Yeah, but he doesn't know. He doesn't know. He's like, Kate, in your business, I'm like, Tony. Just look at this.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Watch rules of engagement. You know what I mean? Dawson's Creek, I've got some stuff. Oh, God, I love you so much. Let's go have a cocktail. Okay, bye. Introducing IVF disrupted, the Kind Body story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. It grew like a tech startup.
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