Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Wait! Did Kate Hudson and Ginnifer Goodwin Just Say SEQUEL??
Episode Date: November 24, 2025Kate Hudson and Ginnifer Goodwin reunite and reignite our need for a "Something Borrowed" sequel! Hear what WOULD bring them back for a reboot of the rom-com classic. Plus, you’ll never guess wh...at Oliver and Ginnifer have in common, and WHO is the mystery person making cameos in all of Ginnifer’s movies?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi, I'm Kate Hudson.
And my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
and what it's like to be siblings.
We are a sibling rivalry.
No, no.
Sibling reverie.
Don't do that with your mouth.
Sibling revelry.
That's good.
Hey, it's all around.
Oh, oh, oh.
Oh, I'm so excited.
Whoa.
Whoa.
Because we are interviewing.
You calm down, girl.
You shut the fuck.
You've calmed down.
If you're going to be excited, you have to warn me first.
Over, over, over, over, over.
Ginny Goodwin and I did a movie called Something Borrowed Together.
Mm-hmm.
Smash it.
Smash it.
Someone asked me on the carpet, what is the movie,
that you wish you could do a sequel to.
And I was like, honestly, I really loved playing Darcy.
And something borrowed, there was a, there's a book after that called Something
Blue, but we never got to do it.
And that book is where Darcy ends up, you know, at the end of the movie, she's
pregnant and then, and selling Blue, like, it's a whole thing.
And I was like, we had so much fun.
Like, those characters were so fun.
And then it's one of those movies that people always say to me like that, they love that
movie.
So it
kind of didn't do
what we
hoped it
would have done
but then
of course
like a lot
of these
movies had
this sort of
different life.
Yes.
Yes.
And so I'm
excited to see
Rachel.
That's her
character's name.
Rachel.
Rachel.
Yeah,
that's her
character's name
and something borrowed.
She talks like that.
No,
I don't know
why I'm talking like
they is.
I just say.
What does it?
Why do Rachel?
Let's bring her in.
I can't wait.
And now she's a mommy and I can't wait to talk to her.
I call her Gigi.
Oh.
Right.
Oh, look at her pie on her.
Oh.
Ginny is a pumpkin pie.
A pumpkin pie.
Hi.
I have been changed it for like six years and every time this happens, I'm like, I forgot to change the pie.
No, don't ever change the pie.
It's a treacle tart.
If you ever want a treacle tart, I'll make you a treacle tart.
It's basically like limited.
and syrup and breadcrumbs
and there's like nothing better.
It's like a soupy pie
that then you bake
it's no longer soupy and it's just like...
Are you a baker?
I'm kind of a baker.
Well, did you know
that I was on the greatest
British bakeoff for the celebrity version?
Wait, what?
Can we please have
like a viewing party
and they have to explain
what was really going on behind the scenes.
I am dying.
Oh, yeah.
Well, Paul Hollywood and Prue,
I was like star-struck because I've seen every single episode.
And did you learn?
Do you feel like you walked away?
No, you know what I did?
I just followed the recipe to a tea because baking is science.
So I was just like, I'm going to be precise.
And that's pretty much all I did.
You know, I added a little Hudson flare and threw some things in here and a little dash of this and a little sprinkle of that.
But for the most part, you know.
Listen, do not simplify baking.
We could spend the whole time talking about this.
Wait, I've seen you know, it's so long.
I know, I know, and I'm looking at your beautiful face, and you look exactly the same, and I love you, and I...
Same.
And your children, your mother.
Do you remember when I was, like, looking through your purse, and you had boy toys in there, and I was like, oh, I want to have boy toys in my purse someday.
Like, you had, like, cars and, like, a transformer friend.
I know.
I was, like, someday.
And now we're spliced.
Exactly.
And your kid has the greatest name.
The greatest name.
It doesn't get better than that kid's name.
Do you go, by the way, O-L-I for your nickname or O-L-L-L-I?
O-L-L-I-E.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
But people spell differently.
But he said he's going to be extremely handsome, extremely charming.
Oh, God.
You know, people are just going to gravitate towards him.
His career might be a little.
bit yeah but like everything else is going to be great that's the only oliver like olivers are
only like mid they're handsome but like mid with career i'll have them watch this i'm just going to prepare
you i'm so happy for you i i i i watch you from a distance always but wait can we get back to
baking real quick before we get into your whole life story yeah oliver baking isn't just science
When you become a baker and you bake a lot, then you start to, you take the science
and then you improve upon the flavors, the texture.
Is that what you meant by Hudson Flare?
I don't think you know who the fuck you're talking to right now.
Listen, I don't think you know what you're talking to.
Once you see this show, you are going to retract everything you say.
I don't think people to put me on the show.
I'm like, here's the thing.
I am excellent at embarrassing myself.
I am really good at failing at things.
And, like, I think that that could be entertaining.
I think you should let something.
I will fall on my face, and it will be fun.
It's so much fun.
When Oliver was doing it, I got so excited.
Oh, God.
I was so excited.
I couldn't believe I was in the tent.
I'm like, oh, my gosh.
I'm in the tent.
I pretend I'm in the tent.
And I buy the swag and it's in my kitchen.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I like hear the music.
Oh, that's my, that's actually my timer on my phone.
Is it really? Oh, my God.
So before also we get it,
as Ginny and I met on something borrowed,
which is a very talked about,
I don't know if you have this experience,
Ginny, but like, people talk to me
about the movie all the time.
I get stopped for this movie all the time.
And do you remember, they wanted to cut the dance scene
and people asked me about the dance scene constantly.
Oh, yeah.
My sons, like their girlfriends at school,
have been, they've been learning the dance.
Oh, yeah.
I've got a bunch of 12-year-olds.
I show up.
I'm like the assistant librarian when I'm not doing other things.
And I have shown up on campus and had the girls be like, hey, Mrs. Dallas, look.
And they do our dance.
Oh, my God.
That's the best.
I feel like that, I feel like that dance has had a real great life.
It's definitely like, but I can't believe like, you know, the movie, when it came
out like wasn't like this giant success but then the the it's just had this like it's just wild and
it's bonkers yeah and i was saying to allie that i get asked about it on the carpet all the time like
you know i was on the carpet not that long ago and they were like what's the movie that you would
want to do the sequel and i was like well i something borrowed we never got to do the sequel and it was like
you know that that book something blue
it was sort of like would have been like the best
circle for that movie and we never got to do it but now
I want her I feel like she I would I would not want to go back
and do something blue at this point I mean we're kind of too old
exactly like I remember the care you know I had a monologue
and something borrowed spiraling about turning 30
and I'm like I am gonna be 50 soon yeah
And so what I would like is for her to write another book where we are further along in love.
Wouldn't that be?
And then we could do, we could do like a flashback to something blue with other girls?
Yes, I love this.
And if you and I can go hang out while they're filming.
Exactly.
You're not quite there yet, but your daughters.
You know, if you were older, it could be your daughters.
Yes. Oh, that's cool. You know.
But Emily, look, she whips them out, so she could always, I mean, she knows how to write those books.
I mean, every time I'm asked about this in press, I'm like, well, if she'd like to write another one where you've got some ladies in their 40s, I mean, I'd be gay.
We're in. We're in.
So, Ginny, you grew up in Memphis.
I did. And I realized I started this in our intro, like, in doing like a Southern accent.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know. That's why. That's why. That's why. And, but you lost your accent. It was like beaten out of me in theater schools. They were like, you can't, not every character can have this accent. I was like, that tracks. That makes sense. I didn't say tracks yet. That's such a filmy term.
Does your whole family have hardcore, like, Tennessee accents? I mean, it's hard as I feel like I'm slipping into it. It's actually I feel like it's hard for me to hear it in them because it's just like,
how they sound. But I, I feel like anywhere I go, I can identify specifically like a southwestern
Tennessee accent. Like if there's, if I'm on a plane, I'll be like Southwest Tennessee. Like I
feel like there's a, there's a very specific vowels thing that we do. And so I can't hear
it in other people. But yeah, I mean, I've heard videos. I've seen videos with myself as a child.
And I can't believe I'm the same human being. That's crazy. Wait, did you consciously beat it
out of yourself, meaning it's like, okay, I worked, you worked at it?
Yes, like lots of dialect classes.
Wow.
And sometimes things like slip through.
Like I definitely, like, I can't say boots, right?
But then it just becomes just by rote.
It's just who you are.
Or do you still try to not do it.
I think like I dream, I think I dream in like a not Southern accent now.
You do.
Like it's not part of me.
Yeah.
But then some words I hear and especially doing.
voiceover work these days. I really hear things as they're coming out of my mouth. And I'm like,
that's getting away from me and that's too. That's not the right sound. Isn't that so interesting?
You essentially, you know, take a part of yourself and just, and just, it just disappears.
Like, you just beat it down. Like, it's no law. You were this, Jenny, was this person. And there's a
piece of her that is no longer that person because of the actor. I did a movie set in Tennessee like,
I don't know, three, four years ago. And they brought in a dialect.
coach. And I was like, you know, I'm going to take that. I'm going to, I'm going to go shopping.
I'm going to go eat lunch. And they were like, actually, you need more work.
Wow.
So getting the accent then right again was a whole process.
Wow. That's interesting. Yeah. That's wild. I see it with kids. I've known a couple
kids that have moved from London to the states when they're young. And they, like, they, like,
like my ex went back to London, his little daughter, she has a full English accent, full.
Like, you know, have you seen Daddy?
You know, and then she comes back here and within four months, she has an American accent.
Wow.
Well, they're so wild, yeah.
And so you realize, like, language is just learned, you know?
It's like, and then you realize, like, some people have,
a stronger connection to it.
Like, I can't do certain accents.
It doesn't come easy to me.
But Ryder, for some reason, can do any accent.
Like, almost like...
It's a great ear.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know what that is.
And I'm surprised that you don't feel you do well,
because also with you're being musical,
I feel like there's something about that
that's got to be connected.
I can do certain accents.
But, like, the Australian forget it.
I'd have to, like, really work at it.
Like, there's certain things I'd have to...
I just think they like, that's just an Australian-ish word.
I can't do them.
I can't do them at all.
So when you grew up in Memphis, was the Peabody Hotel and the Duck something that you would do as a little girl?
Or is that just like a touristy thing?
No, no, no.
It's still fabulous.
And I have taken my kids to see it.
And I mean, because we would also have like, you'd have like dances there.
And I mean, I am from the place and the time of like the debut top balls and things.
So like that would have their parties there.
I didn't have, but I was aware.
Explain how, like, where did you grow?
Did you grow up in the city or were you outside of Memphis?
Oh, you say Memphis.
So right, by the way.
Oh.
Oh, is there a way to say it?
Well, she said Memphis.
It's almost like, it's like diphthongy.
It's like got two sounds in it.
Memphis.
Memphis.
I'm going to Memphis.
I'm going to Memphis, Memphis, Tennessee.
I think you were a local.
I'm actually going there soon because my director,
from there for this movie coming out song sung blue he's he lives there Craig Brewer and we're doing it
he does I've run in for 400 years I grew up in I guess what you'd call the suburbs but my my family was
very like memphean in that I had two my grandfathers on both sides were both um well one was an engineer
and one was a developer and so a lot of like they they contributed to the building up of Memphis
you know, in like the, like, early mid-1900s.
And then my dad was in the music industry until I was, I mean, until I was like in middle
school.
And he had, and he was a performer.
And then he stopped performing when he decided that he wanted to be home with his family
and he wanted to stop touring.
And so he ended up opening a recording studio on Beale Street.
So also I feel like my youth was very like, I don't know, sort of.
idyllically Memphis.
And what about your mom?
My mom was, first she was a stay-at-home mom, and then she became a substitute teacher,
and then she decided to, like, go to college and get her bachelor's and her master's and
her doctorate and became an expert in technology and education.
So if you need my mom to fix my mom.
Wow.
I call my mom, like, I have to ask my mom or my children how to handle things.
So is she Dr. Goodwin?
She is.
That's such a good doctor name.
Oh, cool.
Dr. Goodwin is the best
That's like a character in a movie
I know
But it kind of sounds like it could be like a marvel
Like Dr. Goodwin
Right, but she's bad
Yeah, she's kind of evil
When you guys are named for your kids
Did you go through
Or this is just like the jerky thing ever
That I'm admitting did you go through
And like make sure that your kids names
sounded good with like all the careers
Mm-hmm
I would do this thing where I would go
Ladies and gentlemen
I go, ladies and gentlemen, the recipient of the Booker Prize.
The Booker Prize.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Ronnie Rose, Hudson, Fujikow.
I was like, okay, that works.
I mean, I guess.
That's a lot.
I was like, I was like, ladies and gentlemen, you know.
The honorable.
The honorable, I don't know.
The honorable Wilder Brooks Hudson.
Yeah, good one.
Yeah, but Wilder Brooks Hudson sounds like more of like a Booker Prize winner.
Wilder Brooks Hudson.
That does sound literary.
What about Bodie Hon Hudson?
He's like, the winner of the 25 Winter Olympics.
We did this with like everything we could think of.
And then I was actually sitting on the Jimmy Kimmel show.
I think it was Jimmy Kimmel.
And he said, you do realize that you gave your son Oliver the initials OD.
And I was like, you know what?
I haven't actually looked at that.
So I made a check out a kid
a doctor and I thought
I'm president and all of those things.
Thank you so much.
Yeah.
It's OD and odd.
Thank you.
My issue for my third kid
is next up on the number one stage,
Rio Hudson.
Please tip your girls.
Awesome.
That's awesome.
Oh, no.
Do any of your kids want to be in showbiz?
I all do.
every single one of them
I don't even know
what to do about this
in the Halloween parade
Ronnie decided to be a bride
with her best friend
their ghost brides
but she already was that
and then she's like
I don't want to put the ghost makeup on
I just want to put like
you know
lipstick and thing of course
so now she's basically in a gown
with her best friend
and she's waving
at all of the parents
like she's like
what is this
the barricated fans
Oh, it's so fine.
Well, it's more like I feel like she wants to marry a royal.
I feel like her and like...
Good idea.
What, Louis?
What's their first born, Charlie?
I like this.
It's a good idea.
It is a good idea.
It's better than acting.
I want to ask all next questions about that too.
Awful idea.
So Ronnie, I have to visit her at like Buckingham Palace.
Can I see my daughter?
Please, please.
Wait in the...
I'm like not allowed
to certain things.
What about your kids?
Are they inclined anyway?
Well, we thought we would want to keep them
as far from show business as possible.
And like both my husband and I feel like
he's an actor as well and we both feel like
there is no greater blessing than this.
However, we've been in projection
and like, you know,
very unsustainable sort of unstable life.
And so we have wanted something
just a little bit different for them.
My husband and I came out of the womb from our respective mothers with jazz hands.
And so then when our children, as much as we thought we wanted to set them up for like, you know, careers and finance, when they came out and did not want to be in show business, they were like, what did we do wrong?
Why?
Right.
Yeah, no, I don't know.
So my husband's now actually doing a lot of volunteering for the school and trying to get my kids.
He works in the performing arts in his spare time in the performing arts department trying to get our kids.
revved up about things like SpongeBob the musical.
But right now, my youngest wants to be, no, I'm actually really happy.
My youngest, who's nine, Hugo, he told me he wants to be a CFO.
And I had to look up what that was.
Chief Financial Officer of what business?
Okay, so this is where it gets good.
So I have been finishing up the movies of Atopia 2, and I took them to,
Disney, like, rolled out their red carpet and then let me have a bring my kids to work day.
and they just showered my children in actual candy
and let them play on the animation software
and watch mommy work and like,
here's how lighting works and here's how editing works
and all the things.
And I was like, ooh, maybe they'll want to be in the arts now.
And they came out and Hugo goes,
now I want to be.
And we were like, yes.
And he goes,
the CFO of Disney.
That's a good idea.
Yeah.
That sounds great with us.
We're totally good at this.
And the other one's like,
I'm going to be a pro soccer player
and maybe a surgeon at the same time.
Of course.
We got you.
How old is he?
11.
I can't believe.
You're a boy mommy.
I know.
I was a boy mommy for a long time.
Right?
How different is it now?
Like, I can't even fathom having me well.
Oh, it's so different.
And everybody sort of is like, you know, I mean, I remember when she was first born,
I was like, how different is it?
I'm like, well, she just like poops and sleeps and I don't know yet.
Like, let's give it some time.
But the second hurt.
she started like developing all i mean just she is all girl and like i mean it couldn't be more
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just rolls her eyes she's just like what is wrong with you guys she's like she's it's
Girls just, they're just, we're so different.
We're just wired so differently.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, no, I'm surrounded by boys.
I have a boy dog.
I mean, it's, there's, and my son, my eldest and I share clothes now.
So that's like a whole.
Oh, that's, yeah.
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So, Jenny, how many siblings do you have?
I have one sister.
I have two step-sisters, but I was not raised with them.
My parents remarried later.
So they are my step-sisters, but I don't know them as well as I wish I did.
But I am very close to my little sister, who's really only two years younger than me.
So basically, I mean, now with the same age.
And you grew up and you were in Memphis, your whole childhood.
Whole childhood, always wanted to be an actress.
No, always was good.
going to be an actress. There was no backup plan. So there was no question that I was not staying in
Memphis. And I, yeah, I picked up and left and I moved to, well, I went to theater schools
and my sister went to art school. She's a visual artist and an animator. So also we've always
had like sibling careers, which has been lovely, and overlaps. Like, she had me cast in her first
animated series. So my first voiceover job was through my sister. And now I love she does cameos and all
the things that I do. Oh, you know what?
She was in something borrowed.
She was in a bar scene.
It's always like a Where's Waldo game for my family.
Okay, right.
And, like, it's fun because A.Ds will get competitive.
Like, I have to say, I think, walk the line one,
because they put her in, like, a scene where basically everything was in unintentional.
I mean, intentional per art direction and costumes.
But, like, the image was almost black and white.
And then my sister's in this, like, bright blue airline stewardess uniform,
I'm like coming down an escalator right behind Walking Phoenix.
And I was like, I don't know if that can be tough as where we're called from my family.
Yeah.
But I think for a while, too, my family would get more excited about finding her than they, like,
they were used to seeing me on screen.
So like, I'd be in a screening with them.
And then they would just all start screaming when they would see my sister on.
That's so far.
Right?
And like now I had, and now she's like making like has little cameos even in the,
And like in the Zootopia movies, she's got little roles and things like that.
And is she in L.A.?
You know what?
She was, and this isn't me like talking out of school because she's been public about it,
but she lost her husband.
She's got two very small children.
She lost her husband cancer a couple of years ago.
She developed cancer.
She's fine.
She's great.
She's in remission.
But she, I think, did like the greatest thing for herself and her kids.
And she moved to be with her late husband's family.
So she moved out of state
It's the first time we haven't been together
So that's been an adjustment
Because we've always been down the street from each other
Like except for college years
Our whole lives
We're roommates after college
So it's been an adjustment
But I do think it's like the greatest thing ever for
Where did she move to?
She moved to Phoenix
Okay
And does and does the family have like siblings
Did he have siblings and
That is a huge family
So now she's like literally in the neighborhood
with her late husband's family
and they're all dreamboats.
Oh, that makes them emotional.
I know, me too.
That means you want to cry.
No crying.
It's like the greatest thing ever.
So I know that it was a big like, yeah,
she's in her 40s and suddenly like life is
presented her with a very different.
How old are her kids?
They are three and seven.
Oh, they're little.
They're little guys.
So also, I have never taken my children
to any kind of Hollywood event at all.
They don't even know what they are.
My children have been campaigning to come to the Zootopia to Premier,
which was a whole thing that we can get into,
which is a very fun negotiation.
But anyway, my sister and her eldest are also coming.
So we're going to be dates to the kids.
Oh, fun.
What is the negotiation?
Well, my whole thing has been,
I let them come to sets.
They're allowed to set a video village and, like,
you know, I try to make sure that it's like a child-appropriate day, though at times I have thought
that things would go over their heads and things did not go over their heads, or at least they
did not know not to repeat lines about like infidelity at preschool. And then I had to go to preschool
and say, by the way, my husband and I are fine. This was a line that he heard repeatedly on a day
because I didn't know that he picked up on it.
Preschool. It was like, there's a lot of infidelity in my house.
Yeah, there's a lot of spelling around.
We're here in the floor a lot.
But so we've never let them come to anything.
We've kept it also very separate.
And they really,
really want to come to this premiere.
Now,
they don't know what that really means.
And they asked me recently,
because, you know,
when Disney has these premieres,
they like shut down Hollywood Boulevard.
And, you know, it's,
I can't even fathom how many people
are like on the street,
on their sidewalks.
And my kids were like,
hey, do you remember when we went to the Knicks game?
And I was like, yeah.
And they were like,
you remember when we left the Knicks game and there were photographers outside by the way there
were like two photographers. And I was like, yeah. And they were like, is it going to be that kind of
crazy? And I was like, oh, dear. We're going to need to like, you need to show them. You need to show them
like a YouTube video or something. I'm going to have to. So they want to, they want to come. And so
they're actually going to come on the press tour for all like they're going to do at some LA and then
everything international light with me and what we said it right I've never taken them out of
school for anything so this is going to be all the thing I haven't told the school yet they might be
finding out listening to this podcast but um but we got them little suits and um what I said to them
was if you walk this carpet with us which is what they want to do I said we are not like you're
not going to then like go sit at the computer and like Google yourself like we're going to like
we're going to have eyes on this like this we're going to pretend
I know the math doesn't add up.
Like, there is no math that works there.
You're going to walk on a red carpet and we're not posting about it and we're not
Googling it and we're not, we're just going to pretend it's like the 1950s.
Yeah, or do what our dad did, which is no one really cares about you.
Meaning like, Kurt was always, Kurt was like, here's the deal.
Here's a deal.
This is all smoke and mirrors.
It means nothing.
It means nothing.
Because there's nine billion people in the world that don't give a shit.
But remember, remember, and it has nothing to do with you.
Yes, and who you are and what you've offered.
Yeah.
It's like, it's like, we had like the opposite.
We had like the harsh, like, the harsh, like, guys, this is, this is like.
Yeah, don't think this is real.
This is all bullshit.
Yeah, don't think this is real.
This is all insane.
Yeah.
No, I love this.
I think that's healthy, though.
It's healthy, I think.
I think so.
It is.
I think so.
It's like, look, you guys, this is fun.
I get it.
It's fun, but it's all bullshit.
This is not reality right now, you know.
Right.
Who knows how long this?
I think that's the real thing.
Who knows how long this actually lasts?
Right.
So one of the trips I'm most grateful for was this summer in Greece.
And it was amazing.
And the whole family was together.
That doesn't happen very often.
Some sun, a few laughs.
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I got judged horribly.
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I don't know how you got on the show.
Boo, somebody had tomatoes.
I'm kidding.
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Let's be honest.
We've all had those moments we'd rather forget.
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We made a mistake.
The deal fell through.
We're embarrassed.
We failed.
But this podcast is about that and how we made it through.
So when they sat me down, they were kind of like,
we got into the small talk.
And they were just like, so what do you got?
What ideas?
And I was like, oh, no.
What?
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Let's talk about your first job.
Like, what was your very first job?
Like, what was your sag card job?
my sad card job was a law and order episode yes um i audition i was a i was a club girl
that was my name i believe was club girl and i by the way i had to wear my own clothes and i did
my own i think i did my own hair but i think they did my makeup in the audition i was auditioning
to stand beside the girl that found the body in the cold open and when i was in the audition
I asked if I could please instead audition as well for the girl who screams.
And I got it.
So I got to scream when I saw the body.
And then you see me in the background after that,
you see me being interviewed by the cops.
And that was my entire role.
And, but it aired wildly on the same night I had become a recurring
actor on Ed, on NBC, which was about the, I remember that?
I remember that, yeah.
And my first episode of Ed aired the same night on NBC right after Law & Order.
And I felt like I had made it.
So double feature.
How old were you?
I was right out of theater school.
So I was in my very, this would have been 2001.
I was in my very early 20s.
And I wanted to be.
theater actress but um as i always say the theater wouldn't have me and so i decided i but i was like
i would go to london and see shows and like i don't know celebrities were all like tv and movie stars
were always on stage i was like oh maybe if i get one of those jobs then they'll let me be in a play
so then the focus became trying to do tv and film and i've like yet to make that i like i've done a play
in l.a i was about to say i was about to ask you did you did you follow the
plan. I mean, no, because also that's, it's, I've gotten really, I like cutting the line at
Disneyland and I, I know of a theater life. It's like, it's, that is a noble life. That is a
life of integrity. That's a lot of work and hard hours. I think too, when you're in the middle
of it with kids, like I know for me, like, I want to, I want to do Broadway so bad. And I just can't
do it with kids. I've got kids in school.
It's not kid-friendly.
It's, I've got to wait, you know.
I'm going to be old on, I don't have to be old, you know, or do like a month.
Yes, a limited run.
So we're great.
And how about during the summer?
How about some Shakespeare in the park?
How about we do Shakespeare in the park?
Yes.
And we offer them out something for our dance break right in the middle.
But that seems like a good, like, top of the middle of, like, taming of the shrew.
And then when was the thing where you were like, oh, my God, like, I,
actually am making a living in life as an as an actress yeah um i remember i was on like one of
the my first ever mobile phones and i was like a flip phone and it this would have been in
i don't know if this was in 2001 i think this was in the fall of 2001 um i i remember i was in
time square in my reps called me i got i was really lucky in that i had agents
like pick me up from a college showcase. So I was represented by the time I moved to New York.
And I had gone in and auditioned for Mike Newell for Mona Lisa's smile.
My God, I remember that movie.
Oh, my God. I remember being in that audition. And like, I didn't know what I was doing.
So I was head to toe 1950s. Like, I had figured, I had like gone to the library and gotten books
about like, you know, how women did their hair in the 1950s. And like, I went in in character
and I wasn't trying to be a dick. I just like, I didn't know.
what I was doing. And I remember they called me. I was in Times Square on that flip phone and they said,
they're going to cast you in the movie and they don't know which of the girls, you're going to be
one of the four girls. And they don't know which girl you're going to be. But you'll be in the,
you're in the movie. And I remember, like, I fell over. Like, I actually physically fell over in Times
Square and then, like, they like crawled into the Starbucks because I just couldn't like, I couldn't walk.
I couldn't believe it.
Yeah.
That's so,
that's like the best feeling,
isn't it?
It's the best.
Because when you want,
like we,
we share this in that
when you want something,
when you're like,
that's what I'm going to do.
Like,
there's just no question.
And then finally you're like,
oh,
I'm going to do this.
Yes,
it's real.
It's really happening.
They're going to let me.
They're going to let me.
They're going to let me.
And then it was the greatest experience.
I mean,
honestly,
it's one of my favorite.
I've ever had to you because Julia Roberts was the greatest, like, I don't know, chaperone
through a first movie ever.
Like, she really took me under her wing and I felt so, I don't know, I felt like I had such
a good example of just being like a real pro, but making everybody on a set, she made
everybody on the set feel like they were the most important person in the room.
She was the first one there, the last one to leave.
She had the flu and was still doing off camera for me.
And so it was just like, I was like, this is, it was like, it was like,
all my Christmases came at once.
Like, it was just all, it couldn't have been better.
And it was like, by the way, it was on film.
Remember when we were on film?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And it was like a six-month shoot all over the North East and they wanted to
reshoot a scene.
They'd just be like, we're going to go back to that town in Massachusetts and
reshoot a scene because we decided it might be prettier under the light of this.
Like, it was such like, I don't know, like a dreamy time would be making movies.
Also, like, also there was so many more stakes, like a hair in the gate when they
would say there's a hair in the gate and you just did something.
Yeah.
What?
You'll never get back.
Not saveable.
Yeah, that was, Oliver, it was, so Julia Roberts and Dominic West.
And then it was Hirsten Dunst, Maggie Gillen Hall, and Julia Stiles.
Oh, yeah.
Dominic West is so good, too.
So great.
So fun.
What an amazing, like, first big experience.
Well, Anne, wait.
I've never thought about this before, this moment.
But we were,
but the whole thing that happened with NBC and I was like,
it's must see me night on NBC when I did my scream on the one show and then was,
when Mona Lisa Smile came out,
I had my second movie in the theater.
And I feel like it was like at the same time or they were like right up next to each other.
And I was like, I think I'm going to get to stay.
Like, they're going to let me do this and I get to stay.
Yeah.
that's i do that every every every time i have like one that's like actually successful i'm
like oh i got another 10 years that makes me feel so much better that's why like i'm like i'm like
i'm like okay okay i got 10 more years of like trying to figure out if i get some good ones or
i don't know you know it's a it's such a temperamental business you know it's like and as an actor
you're just a hired gun you know it's i think i feel like people there's this sort of misunderstanding
because you bear so much of the weight
of the success of the movie
and yet all of the other people
are the ones at the helm
and you're just out there representing it
and I mean from the director
to the producers to the studio
and then if the movie does good or bad
it's kind of like on your back
and you had really nothing to do
with the process except
except showing up for the director
I feel like when he came into it
there was like a different manual
and I feel like maybe all
of those actors would say I'm wrong, but I feel like you got your foot in the door in a significant
way, and then it's just like the door stayed ajar. And I feel like it's just a whole different
beast now. Like the industry is so different than when we started. Oh my gosh. It's also,
you know, this business in the last however five years plus is definitely contracting. It's
shrinking, you know, as far as opportunity goes, as far as content goes, especially in the broadcast.
cast world, it's just next, they're not even doing pilots anymore. I mean, remember back in the day,
remember pilot season? NBC, see, they'd have like 40 pilots. I mean, and then it was crazy.
Yeah. And now that's completely gone. And even in the streamer world, you know, it's just,
they threw so much money into this business. And I think after the strikes and after all the
shit, it's like, well, maybe we don't need, it's just shrinking, shrinking. I've loved being, you know,
during COVID my husband went to work because he was still on a show and I found myself relaxing
like truly relaxing which I know so backwards given what was going on in the world that I was
like there was suddenly like a well I can't I can't work like there's no there was no new work I feel
so much right yeah and so there was like we were like shoved off the hamster wheel yeah and I I know that I
And I feel like we've got, Oliver, I feel like our kids are about the same age, right?
18, 15, 12.
Oh, yeah.
You're 12, right?
Because I've got in almost 12.
Yeah.
Wait, Kate, how old's your daughter?
7 and 14 and 21.
Okay.
Well, we're all in about the same world.
Were y'all Zoom schooling?
Because I was like, you know what?
I can do this with the Zoom school and being home and the Zoom school.
And like, and like there's no option for me to go try to get a job today.
Like, that's off, that's off the, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's
out of the date book.
Oh, God.
It was just so much relief.
There's weight off the shoulders.
It was like, oh, shit.
Like, there's nothing I can do.
I was, like, in a hazmat suit.
I mean, I was alone with my children and, like, gosh.
My mom sent me from Memphis.
I thought this was the greatest thing ever.
My mom, who I was alone in, I was a body training, a pandemic puppy, because we thought
that was a good idea.
I mean, it was.
It was a brilliant idea now in retrospect.
But at the time it was a lot
And my mother shipped me a bot
The woman doesn't drink a drop of alcohol
Shipped me a bottle of scotch
And she was just like, I just feel like
You could use this
Wow
Oh my gosh
Yeah I had my little pod
Which was like a pod of 78 people
I guess
It was like my pod and glass onion
It's like when she's having the party
Yeah
And I'm like I'm in my pod
Right
It's like that
Oliver was like, no, you definitely have had COVID already like four times.
Like, you need to stay as far away from us.
No, I know.
Kate would only text with me because she thought I could give it to her over the phone if I talked.
Finally, there was a time when we didn't know.
Yeah, I mean, it was crazy, though, how gnarly it was and how it sort of overtook rational thought.
I mean, I would go, I remember thinking, this is going to change the way that humans interact for
never literally I thought that I thought I thought we're never going to shake hands again we're
never probably going to hug or kiss again I mean I really thought that and I consider myself a pretty
rational person yeah I mean and now I think back on I'm like I'm like what the fuck but I think
can I say I think honestly it's been like a year and a half ago was when people finally took the exhale
and you were like oh life is normal and then you can feel that way because now all of a sudden it's
2025, and I swear to God, I look around at these parties, you know, that I go to a party.
I mean, it's like the 90s again.
I'm like, oh, everyone is partying.
I have been practicing with my kids saying no to things that they don't know what it is.
Like, I make them actually act.
That's where they are acting in life.
That is where showbiz comes in.
Because we actually act out scenes where I have them practice saying no to me.
And I say things like, but I'm your best friend.
and you're being a chicken and then they come up with coming so that they're ready because
I am terrified and I said to them recently I said well you know I just need you to come tell
me if you ever want to do something you just need to just tell me first and we'll have a
conversation about it like no problem you won't be in trouble and they were like mom you'll
get us drugs and I was like I'm definitely not getting you drunk glad you asked that that's just like
right you're done you're taking this the wrong way I'm not it's a tough thing to
navigate. It really is because you kind of like, you know from your own experience in high school that like the, the desire to experiment or you see certain people doing certain things and you don't know if you want to do it or not do it. And some of it looks really fun and some of it's kind of scary. And then there is like peer pressure is like a real thing. Like all of these things are tough to navigate. But my, my thing.
is nowadays it's so much scarier and so I it's like our life in in the 90s in the early
late 90s we didn't have the same kind of like scary no no fentanyl scares like there was like there
were like basil leaves ground up in the weed yes my I was like oregano yeah that's what it was
a pregnant. I'm seeing. I don't even know. It was a
very time, any of it. Every time they go out, I say, be smart, be safe
every time. And then I say, like, don't be a fucking idiot. That's what I say.
I do. I'm like, don't be a fucking idiot. It is. Don't be stupid.
Isn't it crazy? By the way, having kids is really just about trying to keep another human
alive, like, at all the different stages. Like, I keep going like,
well, there be a stage where I'm not worried about the keeping you old life.
No. No. No. It's just going to be.
A different kind of keeping you alive.
It's more, I had someone say to me, because I was having a lot of anxiety about my kids
at one point, and she just goes, you know, with ride or leaving.
And she goes, when I started to do that, she's like, it's just, I just went to faith, not fear.
Faith, not fear.
And I was like, well, I like that as a mantra, you know.
I love that.
Because also when you show faith in your kids, you know, and you show that you have trust in them
and you give them proper independence,
I feel like they don't take that for granted.
They're sort of like,
I know that my mom has faith in me to be safe
and to do the right thing.
Yeah, and you can't,
the problem is we catastrophize
about what could happen to our kids.
So we're creating this stress
and this anxiety and physical pain
from something that hasn't even happened yet.
Anyway, Zootopia 2.
You're all right.
So one of the trips I'm most grateful for
was this summer in Greece
and it was amazing
and the whole family was together
that doesn't happen very often.
Some sun, a few laughs.
And my kids love anything adventurous.
So it was right up our alley.
And what makes those trips even more special
is staying in a place on Airbnb.
Because you're not just visiting,
You're living a local life for a while, which makes the experience so much more memorable.
So if you're planning to travel this November, it's also a great time to think about hosting your own home on Airbnb.
And the best part, you don't have to handle everything on your own.
With Airbnb's co-host network, you can partner with someone local to help manage your listing, your guests, and everything in between.
Find a co-host at Airbnb.com slash host.
A decade ago, I was on the trail of one of the country's most elusive series.
serial killers, but it wasn't until
2023 when he was finally
caught. The answers were there
hidden in plain sight, so why did
it take so long to catch him?
I'm Josh Zeman, and this is Monster,
hunting the Long Island serial killer,
the investigation into the most notorious
killer in New York, since the son of
Sam, available now. Listen for
free on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, wherever you get
your podcasts.
What up, y'all?
It's your boy, Kevin on stage. I want to tell you
about my new podcast called Not My Best Moment, where I talk to artists, athletes, entertainers,
creators, friends, people I admire who had massive success about their massive failures.
What did they mess up on? What is their heartbreak? And what did they learn from it?
I got judged horribly. The judges were like, you're trash. I don't know how you got on the show.
Boo, somebody had tomatoes. I'm kidding. But if they had tomatoes, they would have thrown the
tomatoes. Let's be honest. We've all had those moments we'd rather forget.
We bumped our head.
We made a mistake.
The deal fell through.
We're embarrassed.
We failed.
But this podcast is about that and how we made it through.
So when they sat me down, they were kind of like, we got into the small talk.
And they were just like, so what do you got?
What?
What ideas?
And I was like, oh, no.
What?
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On the podcast Health Stuff, we are tackling all the health.
questions that keep you up at night. Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Wally, a double board certified physician.
And I'm Hurricane Dabolu, a comedian and someone who once Googled, do I have scurvy at 3 a.m.
On health stuff, we're talking about health in a different way.
It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also what our health says about us and the
way we're living. Like our episode where we look at diabetes. In the United States, I mean,
50% of Americans are pre-diabetic. How preventable is
Type 2.
Extremely.
Or our in-depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are.
Oh, it's hard to explain to the rest of the world that, like, your mangoes are fine because
mangoes are incredible, but, like, you don't even know.
You don't know.
You don't know.
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I have a question.
You've been doing a lot of voiceover work.
Like, what, how did this happen?
I don't know.
I mean, I used to go into Disney and because I'm like a real Disney nut.
Like, I'm a Disney file.
Like, I was raised on it.
I'm of the cult of, like, I've drunk Walt's Kool-Aid.
And I used to go, I asked my reps to start sending me in for anything animated.
I just want it.
Because I felt like Disney was the, I mean, that was, that was it for me.
And I would go in and I would just beg and say, like, wherever you can stick me, like, seriously, stick me there.
And I did a tinkerbell, like, one of these straight to, well, it was called straight to video.
We don't have that one, do we?
Anyway, it was straight to video, straight to video, and it was many years ago.
And I was then after that, I was still working on that movie, and I was cast, I was on once upon a time, which is Disney stories, right, with a modern twist.
I was up in Canada pregnant with my eldest, and I was literally sitting in Mickey Mouse pajamas on a morning off.
And I got a phone call.
I got one of those calls where all your reps are on the phone at once.
And my voiceover agent was in the mix.
And I turned to my husband, and I said, I'm getting fired from Tinkerbell.
And he was like, what do you mean you're getting fired?
And I'm like, well, there is a call in from all of the reps and the attorneys.
And the voiceover agent is in that mix.
And so I'm clearly from Tinkerbell.
And it was the Zutopia 1 offer.
So I have no idea how it happened, but it did.
And I did not read a script.
I was just told Jason Bateman and I would be buddy cops, that I would be a rabbit,
that he would be a fox, and would I like to sign the contract.
Wow.
That is it ever a deep dive into sort of what they heard, why they wanted you?
No, it was.
I thought it was, I thought they were going to say they were watching once upon a time,
because it's Disney or it had something to do with the tinkerbell.
And one of them was watching a movie that I did called,
he's just not that into you.
And he said he was listening to,
he was like doing something else and he heard me on the TV in the other room.
And that that was the project,
which I thought was bonkers, right?
And now I go to them,
I go to all my bosses at Disney and I tell them,
if you have anything for me to do,
I will do it because I love working for them so much.
Like I just feel like,
If I just did this forever, I'd be really okay with that.
Amazing.
That's very cool.
Dreams are coming true.
So cool.
Disney style.
Right.
And then a little tinkerbell just flew behind her head.
That's right.
I should rig that in here.
I love you.
I love you.
It was so good to catch up.
And Oliver, it's so good to get to know you.
Yeah, this was fun.
And I'm pretty funny with so much of this parenting.
So many of her, I find that very inspiring.
A lot of things she said.
I'm running with it. Just, you know. Oh, good. Well, I hope I see you soon. Same.
It's been so long.
Yeah, but you literally look exactly the same. I do.
I don't. You really know, it's long. You know, listen, another couple years, I'm, you know, we were all getting face lips. Let's be honest.
Let's go. Let's just go and then we'll stay in and we'll do recovery together.
We'll all do it together. I love you. I love you.
Bye, babe.
Bye, you've got it. Bye. Bye.
That was great, Kay.
Oh, it was so great.
It was so great to catch up with her.
I know.
I love her so much.
She looks Disney.
I mean, she, like, feels everything about her, like the hair or the pixie haircut.
I can't even take it.
I can't even take how beautiful.
It's like, she's like, she's like a painting.
And I used to say that all the time we were working together.
I'd look at her face and I get, like, lost in it because her eyes are so big.
And she's just like a porcelain skin.
And yeah, she's like snow white.
I know.
But then, then she also looks like our stepmother.
She's very much
Like Cindy Williams
I know
So much so
Wow that's crazy
Yeah
All right
I'm gonna see you tonight
See you tonight
Bye
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