Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - Walk This Way with Liv & Mia Tyler

Episode Date: April 14, 2025

Aerosmith lead singer, Steven Tyler is a legend on stage, and a doting grandpa behind the scenes. Just ask his beautiful daughters Liv and Mia Tyler. The sisters join Kate and Oliver for a 'Crazy' catch up after decades of 'Livin' On The Edge.' If you think the sisters knew each other when they were little, 'Dream On'...because the story of how they met is sure to leave you Cryin'! From the secret nicknames Kate and Liv have for each other, to why the sisters aren't 'Jaded' about their rock and roll upbringing, trust us, you 'Won't Want to Miss a Thing!'See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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And my name is Oliver Hudson. We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship. And what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling rivalry. No, no. Never, don't do that with your mouth. Sibling, revelry. That's good.

Ollie, I'm so excited about what's happening right now because, like, one of my best friends in the world. I know, but they've been trying to get these girls on for years and they just said, no. Spoop is, she gets scared. So spooop has lived, like, first. Liv Tyler, the Liv Tyler, who is like I've known since I was 14, but we'll get into this because she's here and watching us to the intro and they're watching us. They're watching us to the intro. And Mia, don't forget Mia. And Mia Tyler, who, by the way, we didn't actually grow up with as much as we did live.

We were just met as adults. Yeah. And I think you're meeting her for the first time today. I feel like I've met you before. Birthday party. Yeah. Which one? I've met you.

I've for sure I've met you. Oh, birthday. Yeah. Ryder. Yes. Oh, stop. Writer's first. But it was a fleeting.

Yeah. Was that in work? Yeah, it was one of those. Yeah. It was 20 years ago. Yeah. It was like a chin-up thing. Because.

Oh, I can see his face. I know. I have been told by multiple people for years that you and I should be friends. Really? Because we are similar in humor. I like this. Sibling-wise. Yeah.

We relate more. Yeah. Not in like a, just as like a friendship thing, but like everybody's like, you need to meet him. I'm like, all right.

So when I saw you at the birthday, I was like, yeah, what's up? And then it was so fleeting. That was it. So now here we are. You guys,

you will love. Welcome to our podcast. Hi. Thank you so much. You're here. I can't believe it. What are you like that didn't come from? Yeah.

Oh. It. came from. So we, well, first of all, we have known each other since we were 16. Have I known you longer than Kate? Yes. Yeah, because I met her, she was spooping Alex. Who's Alex? We don't have to talk about Alex. Wait, who's Alex? There's no last name. Definitely. No, I know. Talking about Alex. I love Alex. Wait, I know all your spoopees. I don't know Alex. I was 16. Oh. I came to L.A. I was doing a movie staying with Susan and Peter, my godparents. Yeah. And their daughter, Katie Hoffman.

was friends somehow. So somehow we all went out one night, a whole group of us. And over weeks, that somehow we ended up at your house. Yeah. At our parents' house. I really remember. I remember you so well. I'll never forget it.

High school. I love telling this story because I'm meeting Liv Tyler. And for me, you know, a girl in high school, I was at maybe a ninth grade. And it was like the live Tyler, you know. It was like stealing beauty. Was I? You were a little bit older. I'm older.

You're a little bit older. You're a little bit older. I think she's my age. I remember. Yeah. How old are you? I'm 77. I'm 86.

I mean, no. I am 76. I mean, you're older. Are you older? Oh, my God. And I'm 70. I'm the oldest. So, so, so I, so live walks in and she's in this tiny, like, adorable baby doll dress

with, I remember that. converse or like converse shoes black and white and I'll never forget it because it was also after you had done crazy the video so for me I was like oh my God what is she doing in our house yeah we were all in high school we were all in high school yeah and then I was acting really cool and then and then and that was it and then there was a remember your bedroom I remember your bedroom. And then you came into my bedroom. I'll never forget.

I got like, holding court in your bed like you still do. I can see you sitting there. Oh, so cute. And then I remember driving to breakfast. We went to Patrick's Roadhouse, which is no longer there. Did we sleep over at your house? Did I sleep over? Oh, yeah.

Yeah. But I blacked out that part. There's all kinds of weird things. Now at this point, I had, we were in, I forget what car we were in. But I remember, Oh, yes, we went in your sob. It was my sob.

You took me, but just the two of us. So this was a little bit older. So this was like a little bit, another visit. And I'll never forget. I had my sob and spoop. Live was like,

you know, let's go get breakfast. I was like, okay. Yeah, let's go get breakfast. And, and I was like,

we go to Patrick's Roadhouse. And we got in the car and Janie got a gun came on. And you blasted it. And I was like, Like, this is weird. This is so crazy. It's like overboard coming on.

Everyone sit down. Everyone watching overboard. We're watching. Which I saw the other day. I did too. Such a great movie. Can I just say that's my favorite movie? Your mom is my favorite movie.

We'll get back to your story. Let me pitch. Can I pitch you overboard in today's world to see if this would fly? Okay. Here's the overboard pitch. We have a really rich woman who's on a yacht who comes into this little harbor and this sort of carpenter guy she's a total bitch horrible thing she falls overboard now she's brought in she has amnesia the carpenter who she's a dick to decides to kidnap her

because if you think about what he did yeah he kidnapped mother yeah that is what he does but it's hilarious it's really fun i turned it on recently to the scene where she's sitting and all the kids are around and they're kind of like and she's kind of trying to figure it out and He's telling her the story of what happened. Yeah, and he's like, and he's like, you know, try to figure out his name. Try, try and he try. And she's like, you've got to remember this one. Roy.

Which is now mom's dog's name. Yeah, now we have a dog name. I still cry every time. The music, I know. The kids are banging on the window. Oh, my God. Oh, forget it. With the necklace, mom's got the necklace on him.

Still. I cry when it's over and he's like, what could I give you that you? don't know what he has. He's like, a little girl. You have it. You have a little girl. I'm that.

I'm that girl. Anyway, so I go. Janie's got a gun. We are driving down and I remember where we were right at La Mesa and, you know, near Chautauqua and we were crossing. And I remember it's one of those core memories. I will never forget your exuberance, like your life.

force of like you know I just will never forget it oh yeah you were like who was the top down the top was down but it was also that thing like we were so young and we were so ready to go we were just like ready you know and you really wanted to be an actress at that time and I remember and your mom wouldn't let you she wouldn't she was like you're finishing high school and you had your sob and you could drive and I was in you were L.A. and I was in you were L.A. and I was was in New York. So it was so different. And I'd already started working and I would have loved to have been in your shoes.

I'm kind of at home. But how old were you when we were all hanging out even without Kate when you were dating? 16. I guess. That was 16. No, you were older. You were 17 and 18. Was I still, we still in high school?

Totally still in high school. Because when the Aerosmith video came out, I was so in high school that I would get up. I was 15 when that came out. So you're 18 months old. okay so yeah yeah because it used to come on in the morning yeah no oh 19 you're 19 for that I had done a cup like yeah yeah yes because I turned 18 when I did right so I was like 16 or 17 yeah I turned 18 that's on but when the video used to come on I used to get up my alarm would go off like any other high school kid I would start getting ready and put MTV on and it was the morning

countdown. And when my song came on, I would cringe and run and get in the shower. And I knew that I had like that amount of time, whatever, five or six minutes to shower and then come back out to see the video that I wanted to see that I wasn't in. But it was on the countdown

for that whole year, I feel like. Oh, yeah. It was huge. Was that your first gig? No, my friend, James Mangold discovered me. Oh, wow. I was in his first movie called Heavy. Oh, that's right. The first movie I ever did was called Silent Fall.

I killed my... Of course. Silent Fall. She was the killer. With Bruce Bears for driving Miss Daisy. Right. Then I was like 13 or... No, 15.

I don't know. It's all a blur. But spooops, that comes from that time. We were in high school and for some reason, I don't know why. You used to call me spooops, poops. It came from Broiston. Well, it was... Well, that was later.

Chunks. But it was... how weird there's a lot of nicknames no we used to do this thing where we would basically like her dad does this thing

he's always like oh wow like and and it yeah he's like yeah yeah he's like a

like a bird of some kind I don't know what happened but we would be singing a song I'd be like there goes my spoo baby I'm not a pooby-doops And I would just like

Start singing to her Scubidding poops Yeah scatting the poops And I would just do the song like that And then she just became poop For me, like it was a shpoop It was just all It was poop and then it was spooop

But then we'll call each other And be like, poopie But then I call you sh poops And you call me poopie But it's not actually poop related We do talk about poops But you do Yeah, I'm like, poop.

We call it a poop. Yeah, it's an endearment. Not pooping. Poop-a-poop-a-poop. Poop-a-pooh. But you've always been, shpoop-bitt-to-poop. And then we sing songs.

Spoo-bidi-boop-poop-pooh. Oh, I mean, even even Ronnie the other day was like. Is that the rocky theme song that you're doing with poop? We just leave each other voice notes, yes. I have left that on her voice thing. So many times. And then Ronnie the other day, I was like, oh, Liv is coming and she's like, and I was like, spooppy.

And she's like, oh. She's like, the kids don't even know Liz by her name. But we then, we then, after that, of course, you went to college and we thrived in our professional life. Where did you go to college? Yeah, you went to college. graduate from college? No.

We just went a couple years. We went into it. We passed. Then we were always together. Right. Like then like we went. I remember. Some reason I feel like I knew it lived before you.

I don't know why. You did. You did. Yeah. I came over to. If it wasn't for me. Then you guys wouldn't. We wouldn't have had that connection.

So then I go to New York and we're obviously both working and we're going, we went to a couple shows together. We then had a mutual. Well, Bestie and Stella McCartney. And we were all so young and hanging out. But then Shpoop and I had babies young. Yeah. So then our Milo.

You had Ryder when you were 23. I had Ryder and then you had Milo and they were like six months apart or eight months apart or something. Yeah. And so us being the younger mommies. We were so. We would just, I know. We'd hang out and she was married to chunks at the time. I called him chunks.

which is a because he wasn't chunky. He wasn't chunky. It wasn't like it was like it was like it was like he was so cute it was like my it was like

shooppy chunky like what did you call Chris? Nicknames are so weird Chris was just Chris but then we went on tour

together so then the space hall and Oasis and the brotherly love tours went on the brother of love just so we had like a very

connected and total it's so like romantic reversal because you had your own bus so i was in space hog was the opening act then oasis and black rose yeah it was a shared you know um but so i was in the bus with the whole band with all of space hog and you and chris had your own bus and spooopee was just living the life like so beautiful oh god on tour it was like this is what this is all about but it was penny lane into reality and And then it's just carried over.

But you know what? You know what the sucky thing is is you're coming to the end of your friendship. And me and I, we're just starting. Right. So in 20 years, we're going to look back and do another podcast. If you remember that? I'll be like, hey. Do you remember when we got our buses?

Shmoopy. Yeah. Right. Crookie. Cookie. Cookie. Cookie. Cookie.

Yeah. So here we are. Now here we are. Here we are. Let's get into. All we while I was. of sibling revelry Let's

That means to be a theme song The Kings of Leon song Ravelry? Oh yeah, yeah. I was saying this yesterday That hello, we could re-record it. Let's re-record it. Sibling, what?

Sproopi and I always have a desire to re-record songs. We like alone. I want us to be Anna Nancy Wilson and I think we should do a movie but I would have to transform myself a lot that would be. You would, but yeah, I mean,

but we, that would be. And then we'd be competing for the best singing part. But you'd be such a good Nancy. Yeah, but I can do those high kicks with the guitar. Maybe there's a movie here. We've been talking about it for like 10 years. We do. Yeah.

And then I can sing the high. I can sing that. We can switch voices for just the recording. I can do the Ann highs. And you could do the. Those videos were so good. Oh, have you. By the way, Marty Colner directed all of those videos.

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Okay, let's get into childhood. Okay. Let's first start with, are you full sister, siblings? Half. We're half, but we don't, none, all the siblings, my little brother and sister are full. And then there's me and then her. And then, but we don't say half. Right.

Like, what is that? No, we don't. What do we say? No, I just say. I just say, no, I just say, I call you sister. Brother. You've been all my men. So you have two blood?

You have two other blood? Two. There's, you know, different. So there's three moms and one dad. Got it. Right. Okay. So Liv was first.

Me, Mia. Love was first. Chelsea and Touch. Live was first, but we didn't know. Yeah, it was the best art. You did, right? She was, I was, yeah. Yeah.

We didn't know about me. Who didn't? We'll get to that. Okay. And then, so I, my parents were married. So I was the, thought I was the first, but no, I'm not. And then he remarried years later and had Taj and Chelsea. Got it.

Right. Okay. Yeah. So, so what, I know where you're going. I'm very excited to tell the story because it's my favorite story. It's really amazing, almost beautiful but traumatic, like, story because it's bizarre, you know. But Liv, you were raised by your mom, baby Buell, your mom, BB Buell, your mom, Bibi Buell. And Todd, right?

And Todd Rundgren, yeah. Didn't know who your dad was until you were much older. I think, like, eight, we were sort of seven, eight, nine-ish age. I think you were 10 and I, yeah. So, okay, so walk us through this a little bit. Okay, so what the, fine, well, so the story goes that Todd and my mom were dating. Todd Rudgren, amazing musician. Incredible musician.

70s on and off, I don't know, traveling, all sorts of things going on. Somehow, Liz Derringer, who was married to Rick Derringer, hang on, Slupy. I went to high school with my dad with Stephen and introduced my mom and Stephen at Maxis Kansas City one night or something and they made me and I think he invited her on tour to Europe after she was pregnant but yes

The first time they ever made the love was in New York at Liz and Is that where you were conceived? I think so yes and I think I know the house which is interesting. That's a little side piecing. That's amazing. But basically, they had a love affair.

There's so many interpretations. There's Todd's version. There's Stevens version. There's my mom's version. And then my whole life, I've been trying to put all the pieces together. And it kind of occurred to me in my 30s that it really didn't matter.

Yeah, I was just about to say that. It's like everything in life. We all have our own version. And they were all beautiful. And I've just kind of like fallen into. the puzzle of it all and working on myself. My interpretation is that they were together. They didn't really know each other very well.

I appeared in the belly and I think my dad was pretty wild in those days. He was extremely wild. Definitely. He was amazing has a tremendous amount of stamina. He was like the most, he's a magical unicorn. He was gorgeous and did a lot of. And I think... Well, this is also the story of why he has scarves on his microphone

is because he liked to hide his pills and whatnots. Right. So he could do them live on stage. So that is a very true story. I had no idea. Yes, he would have little pockets sewn. So he could be on stage and just take whatever it was that he was... Smart.

Unbelievable. So he was pretty wild. Smart. Yeah. At that time, doing things that no mom to be. as wild as your mom was too like no mom wants that that's interesting

I think she was just she was 23 and pregnant and she left Todd but I think they were both probably having affairs I don't actually know she I think got a little bit scared when she realized how much

drugs my dad was doing and I think as the story goes she called Todd and said she was pregnant and he asked her to come home to where they He lived in Woodstock in upstate New York. And basically, he very courageously and lovingly said this child needs a father, and I will be the father. Yeah, it was very cute.

So I was born and lived on. I don't, this is where it all gets a little bit confusing because I think there was sort of an agreement that maybe I would never know. Or maybe I would have to be 18. But Todd knew for sure that it wasn't his. I don't think to anyone. And I was born with blue eyes, and my dad, Stephen, has very brown eyes. And I have very blue eyes and Todd had blue eyes. So I think maybe there was always a bit of a like who's.

But I didn't know any of this. You came out literally like, go, go, go, go. Oh, wow. You're like, woo. That's so funny. I mean, it, and even like your baby pictures, I would think they would have to be much of it is so interesting. I would love to hear that from your mom.

I know, Todd. And, I mean, you are, how far apart are you guys? 18 months. 18 months. Tell us about her mother is major, by the way. Yeah, so during this whole situation. She's not with us anymore, but she. Right.

Yeah, so I think after that he had met. So my mom was married to David Johansson, who just passed away, Buster Pointexter. Yeah. And he was the story I was. told was that he was a heroin dealer as well. And David Johanson. Yeah. And so he was selling heroin to Joe Perry and his then wife, Alyssa, who my mom became best friends with because they would all party together. And David was doing lots of junk and

just not treating her so well. And then one day my mom was up in the management office, David Krebs, Erasmiths manager's office. And my dad had on this cook. which I just found and just gave to him. It's like, you know, Joseph and the Technicolored Raincoat, or whatever that is, but it's like patchwork, long, and it was just like, he had long, girly hair, and she was like, what is that? And he saw her, and she was blonde.

She was like the Warhol chick at the time. She looked like Mary. She was in Gene Jeannie, the David Bowie. She's major. But she had red lips and bleach blonde hair, and he was just like, what is this? that and he was like she always said it he was like ow ow what is that and like how old that's the name of this episode and that was the moment that she was no longer with david i guess mentally

right and it's funny because i have her journal oh wow after she died i got all her stuff and it's like it's it's it's cf because she went by serenda fox and it was like cf with hearts plus DJ David Johansson and then you see like all these like you see a couple blank pages and then you see something's changed and there's like all

these flight things and it's the flight out of JFK where she was supposed to go home to David Johansson in New York but instead she flew to Texas jam to be with my dad and never came home and then the journal after that is all

CF plus ST. It's such a crazy history thing to have. And they were married. They got married. So they got married. And they lived in New Hampshire in September and I was born in December.

And how long were they together? 80, 10 years. 10 years married. So all of your childhoods are probably so different because you're also probably, although you might have a similar relationship

to your dad, it probably was just completely different. Well, we didn't meet each other. We didn't meet until like around like eight and ten, but we grew up the same way without knowing each other. So I grew up in New Hampshire. And I grew up in Maine. And the same year we both were moved to New York City by our moms. And we met.

Well, we met at a concert. Yeah. And we met at an airspace show. How old were you? You met? I think she was eight and I was nine. And there was no kids backstage. And so her and I just played the whole time.

And I remember. Not knowing you were sisters. Hold on. No. I'm about to blow your mind. I was about to blow your mind. I remember because there was no kids backstage. So her and I just played hard that night.

And we were at this VIP area like outside of the green rooms. And we were just like, you know, doing our eight and nine-year-old thing. And this fan lady came up and she was like, oh, my. god you girls are so cute are you guys sisters and we were like you said yes and i was like yeah and we pretended we were sisters but what she didn't know was that my mom had told me i'm gonna start crying i wouldn't know that oh so that night we lived in maine so my mom couldn't really handle taking care of me alone so i went to live with my grandmother and my aunt and my uncle and cousins in Maine. So I was kind of, my mom was in and out. Oh, God, this gets so complicated. She told you

before? Before that show, she told, I didn't know that. I know. She told you that you had a sister. So there's pieces in between. But Stephen went to rehab. He came out. Part of his 12 steps. He and Teresa went together. He called my mom to make a mess. That was our stepmom. Yeah. That he was after my mom. They started speaking again and arranged to meet in Boston at one of Todd's shows, which was probably not, I think it was maybe my mom's way of thinking, oh, Stephen just showed up and it was so fun, but it was very painful for Todd, that part, I think, because I met Stephen that night. And then so this was, throughout the course of that year, he was around more. I had no idea who he was other than I just thought he was fabulous.

And so that particular night that she's talking about guns and roses were opening for Aerosmith. It was the beginning of their welcome to the jungle, like incredible moment. And we drove the gig, I remember this, which is sort of at a place called Great Woods, which I don't know. I can't even imagine. It makes me emotional. There's so many levels to this story, too.

I could get so emotional right now. So we, oh, space. Oops, don't make me come over there and hug you. I need to get emotional somehow. I just know this story. Just always or something. No, let's talk about the father. Anyway, keep going.

So we, my mom was like, we're going to this show. We drove from Portland, Maine, where we lived, to Great Woods, which is in New England somewhere. And it was an outdoor, sort of those little outdoor amphitheater venues. And we were a little bit late. So normally we would have just gone backstage. or whatever with friends and for some so we got tickets and we went to the audience and we were standing in the you know somewhere and um guns and roses was playing and I was so excited because I just like loved guns and roses and um on the side of the stage was this one because

Standing there. Axel used to dedicate Sweet Child of Mine to me, like, every tour. And he'd, like, bring me out on stage and be like, this is dedicated to you. And I'd be like, I just remember standing there, watching them play, looking and seeing this girl who looked exactly like me. Like, we literally had the same outfit on. Oh, my God. We had both had perms, like spiral perms, pink frosty lips. We were both wearing an Aerosmith concert t-shirt with black leggings and Reebok high-top sneakers.

I looked and I was like, wait, that's me. It was really weird. I was literally like looking in the mirror, seeing your double. I looked at my mom and I was like, Mom. And she just started crying. My mom just like bald. And I was like, is Stephen my dad? and she just like bursted she was just like good and then she took me to a bench and we sat on a bench at

this like outdoor amphitheater and she told me the whole story in the most sincere beautiful way like within the most loving like loving version about todd loving version about stephen loving version about the family that had supported us through it all and I just was there with it then we went backstage after the show and then there was Mia we met for the first time and I remember someone asking if we were sisters and I didn't but we but we didn't know but then that night so I went home that night so I took a car my like they just sent a car to bring me and take me back so I remember getting home and it was really late and I just remember coming back and I was like I met this girl and she was so great blah blah and her mom be me and she was like what was her name and she was

like, and I was like, her name, her name was live, and she was like, no, it's not. Her name's Amy. And I was like, what are you talking about? She goes, and that's your sister. There's another sister? Yeah, she goes, she goes, her mom's name was Beebe, and then her name's Amy, and I was like, no, it was live.

And she's like, that's your sister. And that's how I found out. And just in this moment, and then I just had to, like, go back into my room and put Nick at night on and just go back to sleep, like, but then like two years later, I still have, you know, you know, it's funny i don't know the timeline but i still have you started sending me postcards and like and i

just found one recently and it was just like you know we're like 11 years old and you're just like and then we met up in new york at liz derringer's house who had entered the one that from oh my gosh and i will never forget we were sitting playing and my mom and liz and her mother surrender were sitting and they were you know like talking and then they looked at us and said like, okay, it's okay, you can talk about it now. No, that is not what happened. That's what I remember. And then we hugged and then we went to lunch.

We have this all the time. No, it was siblings. There's always different. I remember because she was older and not all the time. She was older, so I thought, you know, I was like, oh, she's so cool. But I had already known. I knew that she was my sister, but I didn't think she knew. And we both knew, but didn't know the other knew.

But my mom started letting me go out with you and Beebe, and we would walk around. And I remember this because your mom would always be like, if you want to have a tight butt, you've got to squeeze your butt as you walk. And, like, 13 squeeze my butt around New York City. And then we went back to your apartment. Yeah. I think it was like on 18th Street or something. I don't remember where it was.

And my mom had to come pick us up. My mom had to come pick me up. And I just remember, like, the whole day I was like, I remember even just being on like 14th Street walking and wanting to blurt it out. And I had to really like bite my tongue. And so we went back to. your house and we were I was in your room by myself my mom had showed up and you were in the living room with them and that's when they said okay you guys can talk about it and you came flying into

the you came flying into the room and you were like you know and I was like you know and then we just sat there and hugged and then we've been sisters ever since yeah you thought this I was talking about like people were falling asleep. I was just getting everyone. Man, that's amazing. That always chokes me up. They're like, you know, and like, it was just, we just sat, I think we sat there and cried. And like, and then we had so much stuff in common, though.

Hugging each other with our perm. And pink frosty lipstick. You can't tell the difference. I'll try and find it. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school. new projects are just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place will stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would

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like, oh, that way, that I was like allowed to talk about it? When he's like, you and you're side stage and you're like, is that my dad? And she's like, basically, yeah. I didn't know. I wouldn't have talked about it with him that night. Did he know, though? He know that you were his? He did know, yeah. Okay. I think

that I think that even after I was born, they saw each other, which probably gets into tricky territory because you would have, well, I don't know. That's okay. I I just remember my mom with Teresa. Little snippet. Oh, dad.

And that's sweet, beautiful Todd and my mom weren't together. I think they tried to be together for about two weeks, and that didn't go well. But did you think Todd was your father? Yes, I was raised. Okay. Yeah, because you were Liv Rundgren for a long time. That's how I met you was Liv Rundgren. And was that so hard for him?

I think so hard. Yeah. I think it's probably still. very hard and painful and I don't speak to him enough I love him and I have brothers from him and I had a whole family with them but there was so I was a kid so it was really hard because he was mad at my mom and then suddenly Stephen was there and we did a paternity test and it was positive and so we moved to New York I think I was 11 or 12 like I remember getting my period that summer and like moving to New York.

I remember the attorney tested. You were a little bit older because I was like, why are they doing that? Like, it's obvious. We all know. But then that wasn't until after that that we were allowed to discuss it. So I knew that I think I knew, but it wasn't until after we, I remember being in New York, very close to where all my children were born having the blood test and it being positive. And then seeing Stephen and my mom, I saw seeing each other together.

during that time like now are those memories like obviously you know you have different perceptions of little those little sort of moments but like does it feel like that was the beginning of your childhood almost or do you still have memories of being younger and just with your mom and todd they weren't together my mom and todd yeah he he they didn't make it together oh okay that's what he took he took care of me as like he was dad who he was always on tour too and traveling he had another partner and two boys um so i would go and visit them and go on trips with them but i lived i lived in maine i lived in maine with my uncle my mom and sometimes with my grandma i was kind of raised by a little mix of push poopie what was your feeling like did you feel like you were betrayed that time or did you feel just an excitement that you actually felt like now you knew what your life really was. Like what was the honestly I felt it was quite like sort of mature. It was very weird. I felt so much love and so much I think because I had already lived with Annie and Teddy and my my family in Maine. I'd already

lived with my grandmother. I'd already lived with my mom. I was kind of used to I was I'm such a cancer crab. I'm very adaptable. I was able to, like, soak up the love that I could. And everybody was so different. So I remember the, the, the, the Tyler, well, you know, our real last name's Tolarico. So the Tolar Rico. We're Calabrian. Yeah. Our little clan of Tolarikos. We're very, like, my dad's size, very Italian, very eclectic, very, like, gypsy, like, gnome you know like all the trees have faces in them at our house but like there was just like this weird like not weird but like eclectic gypsy vibe and that's why like we were always like gypsy you know but like so did you did you feel like once you like realized all of us

were your family that you felt like oh right i belong here like because you're very much Gypsy Tala Rico, even though that's not your last name, but like... Gypsy Tala you're very much. That's my new stage, man. That is great. Gypsy Tala

is so good. I'm going to start checking into everything. You're like, Chipsy Tala is so good. The queen of... It was like layers. The first wave was shock. After that concert, we went home and I, mom had a chaise, mange in front of a window.

And I remember sitting there for what felt like three days, but it was probably three hours. Right. And just basically coming to this conclusion at the end of like, wow, I have two dads and all this love. And like maybe there'll be two Christmases.

I just was really excited about it because they're all so different and so lovely. But was there a point where as you get older, we're like, okay, now I think I need therapy. So much. I've always been in therapy. We've all been in therapy. We all have. every one of us, but I'm saying there is that moment where it's like, oh, and then you get older, you mature, and things start to happen.

Your life starts to formulate, and then you're like, wait, I need to deal with this shit. I think I've always been dealing with it. But for me, I'm like, well, it's also just part of our job as actors, right? Like I started acting at 13 or 14. It's like the first thing you're doing is looking at the text and like, well, what do you really mean? about that and what's going underneath that and having to dig into those places of your childhood and other experiences that human behavior is at the core of what you do we do how did you feel that i always think more about what that must have felt like for you because it was like well i had

always wanted i grew up an only child at first because my little sister wasn't uh born until i was nine so i had wanted siblings i just i wanted siblings i would i would sit there and like i i I would just squeeze my body as hard as I could, thinking that that was, like, breaching whatever would bring me siblings. Wow. And I would just like, ugh, and pray for that. And then so I knew all the such good. You squeeze so hard.

I had a little sister and an older sister. I had both, a little sister and an older sister. And it was, it was Chelsea's so fabulous, too. I call her and Tage Cheech and Chong. because they were so, but she's a mom with kids now and so, but I still call her Cheech, but she is so fabulous. So I was just excited to have siblings, like, well, I was just all of a sudden a middle child and it was great.

Once you guys met, though, you know, how did that relationship sort of continue? You were both in, were you both in New York? I moved to New York for sixth grade and you were in seventh or eighth grade. We lived such different lives. Her mom moved to the Upper East Side. Serendo was fabulous. My mom was like Lower East Side Queen, but she had this big dream of being,

she wanted to be this, you know, wrapped in furs walking around the Upper East Side. Very sophisticated. So she dragged us up to 82nd in Madison. And she was really mad at our, Serendo was very mad at Stephen. She was very, yes. Because he had kind of left her in New Hampshire.

He had taken her from her life in New York and then had a baby and then kind of like left her sorry dad in San of New Hampshire alone with Mia without family or money or anything whereas like I had grandmother

on uncle and a lot of supports Mia you were alone a lot with your mom oh God and no no money yeah because he was a heroin addict at the time that I think everybody always thinks that too like we grew up so rich and I was like I mean I was a toys for tots kid for most of my childhood getting

like the local motorcycle crew would come and bring me like used toys for Christmas. And is this at the height of Aerosmith? Yeah. Well, there were so many different periods, right? Because there was like the 70s time. Yeah. Then there was like Skid Row time. Right.

They lost everything. And then I think it was the 90s when it was like sort of the videos that I was in and stuff. Uncle Mark. So that's the whole other living on the edge. All those songs. Our Uncle Mark Hudson wrote with your, yep, with the, right. Which is so cute. I know.

That's so great. They did, and he wrote pink. I was on pink. I was on pink. I sang on pink. You did? Yeah, Uncle, I think Uncle Marks were writer on that one. Yeah, what did he wrote at Uncle Mark?

Living on the edge. He did? By the way, listen to living on the edge. Drive home and listen. Listen to the words. It's so right now. It's so, you're like, wait, this needs to come out.

Right. Well, they were recording up in the hills. They were recording up in the hills and the L.A. riots started. So they were watching the L.A. riots and that's where those lyrics came from. Oh, wow. And that's why it's called Living on the Edge because they were on the edge of 92, 92. L.A.

Yeah. Watching. It burns. All of that happened. Wow. But how did your relationship progress? Two different moms. You know, you guys were, you found your sisterhood.

You're essentially in love and it's like, okay, well, or not. Well, because of the relationship. In our age difference, too, and I was like, oh, I want to know my dad, we would go visit and she would hang out with Chelsea and Taj, and they were like a little bit younger and play, and then I was just that little bit older in through a period that I would just wanted to hang out with my dad. So I'd stay up all night in his dressing room talking to him for hours. The truth of that is, and I don't care whose feelings I heard by saying this, is that our stepmom

was very territorial with our little brother. and sister and dad and so any slight thing that would take him away from her and her family she would kind of push us out and so I was like I was worried and I'm being honest I don't think I've ever told you this I was worried because you came in and you just wanted to be around dad and like of course what child wouldn't and she was a little bit more of a teenager I was like becoming a woman yeah so I was like yeah what I didn't I didn't want to like build a horror but I was I was like, whoa, I'm going to go into my dad's, like, dressing room. He'd just tell stories and we'd try things on.

And I was like, it was just a, we were that, that 18 months. I was afraid of that she was going to push us out. So I was like, I started acting like, I don't care about dad because I really didn't. I wanted, like, my little sister's, she's my best friend. And the minute she was born, I was like, hooray. Like, I remember the day she was born and, like, pacing around the house when they were going to bring her home. Because, like, I was just like, I have a best friend. but I was so afraid that

Teresa was going to push us away because you were trying to get to dad so that I started ignoring him and I would go beeline it for the little brother and sister It's so interesting because it worked out because she got to spend all the time with him and then it wasn't threatening to Teresa because I was with the kids

But the dynamic is fascinating because it's three different moms but you're the middle child. each other. But you're still the middle child. Oh, yeah. And what you're explaining is like pure, feels like total middle child feeling of like. We are very much like she's definitely like the adult.

Yeah. Even though she came in later, she still has always stepped up and been like the leader for everything. The mom. Just because I went first with everything, babies first house first. So Chelsea and I technically are the middle children. And then there's our little brother. who's just the only boy and who is just spoiled rotten touch. But he is the opposite of Gypsy Tala Rico.

He's a construction worker and he's married with two kids and lives in the woods and goes hunting. He wants nothing to do with L.A. or anything. This is a really interesting point about all of us. We all, even though Stephen Tyler is our dad and the story that the press always tells in every article ever is that like we grew up on tour and this wild crazy. I grew up in Maine with my family. She grew up in New Hampshire, and Chelsea and Taj grew up in Marshfield, Massachusetts. So we all grew up in this.

Nowhere near Hollywood. I don't think I came to L.A. until I probably around meeting you. Then we were in New York a little bit. But it's very interesting because it's a through line for us in the way we are as parents and the way we raise our kids. Yeah. Like I live in the mountains in the middle of nowhere

and I'm raising my kids so out of all of that. Mia always has been very much not a part of the entertainment industry. Very much far away from him. And Chelsea and Tage are doing the same. Yeah, they live in the woods in Massachusetts. September Olm's feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. it's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure i love that feeling of possibility

thinking about where to go next what kind of place will stay in and how to make it feel like home i'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor if you're planning to be away this september why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos. And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about

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I hope you'll join me and my extraordinary guests for this new season of Family Secrets. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. the fact that your dad is who he is at what point did that sort of come into play with you guys as adults as teenagers you know what I mean was it well it was more for you because you were being an entertainer and you were you wanted that world I wanted nothing to do it my mom was trying to force me to be an actress I had to do like auditions and stuff and I hated it me too I didn't I didn't want anything to do that did you embrace who your father was or did you want to sort of you know do your own shit like I moved I moved to do New York that summer. I was 12. I loved the freedom of walking around New York, but I was looked like such a woman. I was just a little girl, but I was this tall and this weight and high. I was like, but then I started my, I think, uh, my story is that Paul, my mom was very close to

Rico Kasik from the cars and Paulina Poroskova, his wife. And actually, they took pictures of me. And that sort of started my modeling career. was that Paulina took... Were they on the beach or something? Some of them were. They were really pretty. I remember those. Because I don't know why we had copies of those.

There was like one on the fridge. It was like this like... But I was on the beach. So I started modeling. I was in high school. And I got asked to go on a couple of auditions, which I was terrified to do because, as you know, I'm outrageously shy.

And... But it was just... So that was a strange thing, because it was definitely something my mom, not pushed me into, she just was like, you're doing this. And I was terrified, but I did. And then I got, no, mom, no. Exactly.

Apparently, which is so funny because she used to always say. She used to always say when I was little that I was going to be an actress when I grew up. And I didn't know what she was talking about. But like you, I was always singing, always singing around the house. house in the back of the car, just with like every ounce of my heart. You also wanted to be a kid, though, because I remember, like, your mom pushing you to do auditions and stuff, and you, like, weren't allowed to eat cookies and stuff. And then we would go, because back then in the 90s, you could just run around New York City

being little girls and with no parents. And so we would go to the store. We'd have, like, no, before that, before that, before that. 40s and 40s is a fucking blunts. That's what he used to do at 16. Oh, my God. But I'm talking about before that. Before that, when we were like,

nine and we would get like five bucks each and we would go to the store. Remember that time? Five bucks? We'd find like a stoop and we would buy like four bags of chips and some like. Oh yeah, I wasn't allowed to eat junk food at home. And we would sit and eat. I got a kudos bar in my lunchbox. So when I would go over to friends,

I would be like, oh my God, kudos bar. Okay, so I would go over to a friend's house and be like, what's that? Well, I just remember, I just remember Liv coming into my life and thinking why she's a year younger, but she is so much older than me. It felt like, you know, I was very sophisticated and, you know, I was like, wow. I'm sophisticated. Well, you're still like this older woman, even though you were younger. It was not New York.

It was in New York. I think you might have been rolling blunts, and I was like, damn, she's rolling blunts, and she's like, boom, puffing. I'm like, whoa. Who is this? I feel like it's like, I never smoked pot by the way now at all, which is I never smoke now. I feel like that everyone knows like your dad, obviously.

But then when you really think about your guys' moms, you know, when you think about the life they had, both of them, I remember one of the first times I met Beebe was we were out about New York and we were super young. I think even like 20, I think I was like 20, you know, I don't even think I was 21 yet. Before Chris.

And she had a young boyfriend. I don't know if it's still who she's with. No. Was it coyote? Her husband? It was her husband. He was dyed hair, died black hair. Musician guy.

And then we went to this like club. Was he playing? And she was on stage singing. Oh, wow. Yeah. My mom, by the way, was in the most incredible band. Growing up in Portland, Maine, my mom was in the best band called The Gargoyles. But she had talk about presence.

Like, Bibi was like, I mean, a star in her own, you know, and the way she saw herself, too, even as much as, you know, she just is full of life, feels like, like. So you had both of your parents. even though your mom isn't as well known. But that made me very shy. Not yet. You wouldn't call me shy.

No, but reserved. Yeah, it's like if I'm at home with you, I think that's, it's like I can be. But I tend to on that step, I think they're behaviors or. They're just like tab dancing wild energy. That's what Liv. Like, Liv was probably like grew up like going like,

okay, okay. Like, you know, it was just like, Constantly. And then I had my grandmother, who's etiquette, like, had worked in Washington and the government and was, like, focusing on teaching etiquette still to the day. She's 95. I was just with her all last week. And my family in Maine, I had, like, a lot of different. But your creative side, like your mom and dad and that sort of creative energy is so intense. And I just think it's amazing that you came out of that as, as centered as you are. Like I always say, you know, that's a recipe for like a wild child. Yeah. And you just were the opposite.

I think it's, I think it's my grandmother, my auntie, my, and I know so weird to talk about astrology and stuff like that, but I'm so cancerian. I'm a double cancer and my other thing is in Capricorn. I'm like a cancer with cancer. cancerizing and cancer it's a full moon you have to do her she does the best full moon ceremonies ever but i very much okay i um we can do one you want to do one it i don't want to do a full month i'm a virgo virgoes don't do full moon full moon sir what are you talking about vergos are the most like moon vergos i was actually born on a full moon my son was born on a full moon what really do you okay so when the full moon comes a couple days before and after

Are you just bonkers? I don't know. I feel like I'm bonkers all the time. You're actually quiet right now, which makes me think you're thinking about something else. No, no, I'm listening. Because usually our podcasts are, it's a lot of energy and it's funny in this,

but hearing these stories is just so amazing. And I've known you for so long. And, of course, you transitively, you know, but it's just, it's interesting. Isn't it amazing? Well, I was going to say, then your mom, you know also pretty wild she she was more reserved though she was more like you she was very

like kind of shy and prude and just kind of like no i don't mean that you're prude but she was just very like that's offensive reserve it is not prude i think she was intimidated by your mom because your mom was loud and big and like she just was very shy like i heard stories from dad and mom that dad was so he wanted her so bad and she She was like, no, no, no, no. And that he would come to her hotel room door and just scratch on the door. And then finally one day she just opened the door. And she's like, you can come in, but the door is staying open.

And then, you know. And then I was conceived, you know, in Hawaii a couple months later. So that's how it started. He would just scratch. And she was just like, no, no, no. But she was just very, like, reserved. But she was like, she looked like Marilyn Monroe. She was beautiful.

blonde hair, red lips, and she knew Iggy Pop and David Bowie. She was in Warhol movie. What was it like growing up like that for you, Mia? Meaning, you know, was there recognition that this is who your parents were? How was school were people like

all over your ass because of who your parents were? I was more funny about it because I just was like, everybody, like somebody would come up to me like, oh my God, who's your dad? And then I would like, I would do one of two things. I would be like, Bon Jovi just to throw them off or I'd be like, oh, my dad

died, you know, and I would just fuck with people. Because I was just so annoyed by the whole thing. And so I just kind of played and had fun with it. And I just really, I mean, I didn't want to go by Tyler. I was actually sat down by him and said, don't go by Tolerico because we don't want everybody to know that's our last name. Now everybody knows. But it's, you know, back before the internet, you know, he really thought that that was like.

Just from mystique standpoint. Don't let anybody know. Because people change their names because they were like too long or stage names. Yeah, just a normal sort of thing. But I didn't care. I didn't want anything to do with it. I mean, I wanted to be a singer, but then dad shot that down. He was like, don't do that. And I was like, mm-hmm.

And when we moved to New York, we had such, her mom moved to the Upper East Side, and she went to Merrimount, and we moved to the Lower East Side. Oh, girl Catholic school. She was in a uniform. I actually did go to the, I was very dyslexic and ADHD. So I went to York prep, which they called Dork Prep at the time. It was actually a fabulous school. cool. But I lived on the Lower East Side. So my mom was in like her punk bands and we had very

different. My mom was wearing like fur coats and fur hats walking around, which I still have her fur coats. I don't know what to do with them. But just walking around Madison Avenue and just with her little Yorkie that she would walk and it was like and I was like miserable. I cannot wait to get out of here. Get me out of here. I hated it. Oh, that's so funny. It was like you just from a macro standpoint, hearing it all, just feels so sexy. Oh. You know what I mean?

But of course, there's a tumult. It's tumultuous and it's fucked up. But it just feels sexy, almost like the mafia in a sense. You know, it's hard, but it's just... Well, for me, when it got really, could have been weird for me as a teenager, I started acting, and that really saved my life. Because, yeah, and I got to work with these incredible filmmakers.

Like, I graduated. from high school and left the next day to Rome to work with Bertolucci on Stealing Beauty. But it was so cool because my mom, I was a tough cookie, even though I'm shy. She had really like armed me with the ability to suss out a situation and protect myself. So I always felt kind of safe. I had that little New York. But I was in some pretty weird situations. But I got to go and work with Jeremy Irons and all these amazing actors. And I was so, On Dr. T and the Women when I was 19. Oh, that's right.

And then we ran away together. Where? In the movie. Oh, not in real life. No, in Kateski, where was sure? Our friend that's here was with us. And we got to, yeah, we got to, in the movie, we were like lovers. It's so funny.

She's always like, why didn't we really kiss? We didn't even, like, we were sitting on this bench and we had to make out and we, like, touched. We didn't really make out. We should have, like, actually really made out. Well, you weren't, you weren't comfortable with your femininity at that. point in you know I just feel like it wasn't you were Kate wasn't yes oh my masculinity all the more reason why I should have gone in for the kill I I know it was really funny like looking back at it is sort of like that was such a wimpy kiss like we should have actually

really like quite a sweet movie it was very sweet it would have been too if you were like tonging like porno tongue it was yeah it was a sweet and we were a sweet and we were were like besties, so it was just sort of like the whole thing. Oh, and Claire Bo was on the movie. Remember Claire? My little Paranian. Claire Spoops. Yeah, Claire Shooop. Everything is a spooop.

September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September,

why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with. everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos.

And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demorting? I might personally lose hope. This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution

that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believed in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to the moment with Jorge Rammer. San Paola Ramos, as part of the MyCultura Podcast Network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now. We're getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present.

IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start families, it also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands, and then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, starting September 19 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

Hey, sis, what if I could promise you you never had to listen to a condescending finance bro? Tell you how to manage your money again. Welcome to Brown Ambition. This is the hard part when you pay down those credit cards. If you haven't gotten to the bottom of why you were racking up credit or turning to credit cards, you may just recreate the same problem a year from now. You do feel like you are bleeding from these high interest rates. I would start shopping for a debt consolidation loan, starting with your local credit union, shopping around online, looking for some online lenders because they tend to have fewer fees

and be more affordable. Listen, I am not here to judge. It is so expensive in these streets. I 100% can see how in just a few months you can have this much credit card debt and it weighs on you. It's really easy to just like stick your head in the sand. It's nice and dark in the sand. Even if it's scary, it's not going to. go away just because you're avoiding it, and in fact, it may get even worse.

For more judgment-free money advice, listen to Brown Ambition on the IHeart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Janica Lopez, and in the new season of the Overcomfit podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of,

who my mom is. Like, I felt like I needed to be better or work twice as hard as she did. Join me for conversations about healing and growth. Life is freaking hard. And growth doesn't happen in comfort. It happened in motion, even when you're hurting. All from one of my favorite spaces, The Kitchen. Honestly, these are going to come out so freaking amazing.

Be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the Overcomfit podcast as part of the MyCultura podcast network. on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I could talk about this forever. Mia, what are you doing now? Like, are you, I know you're a mom, mom. I am such a good mom.

And, but you're so creative. Like, so what do you do for that as an outlet? You know, I don't. Okay. It's one of those things where I'm at in my mom. Journey. So I had a son. He's seven. And my boyfriend and I now, I was telling you guys before a little bit, his mother had custody of her great-grandson, who's five, and she passed away in October. So we got him in the will. He was bequeathed to my boyfriend Dewey. And so we have now, since October, been on and off parenting him, but we since January are full on parents now to him. Unbelievable.

So my boyfriend went from being like single guy living, but I've known him for 17 years, so we've been friends for a long time, but he was single guy living by himself to a year later living with me and my son and we have a five-year-old now. And so I was just at that point with a seven-year-old where I was having freedom. He could go wake up in the morning and go watch TV and make. his own cereal we get to sleep in and so now we're right back at five so we are right back in taking care of so you are doing the hardest and best job in the world which is mom and you know what I love it when they're gone I'm like miserable I'm like where are they but I crave them to go but

then the minute they're gone I'm like yeah oh but yeah I'm just full time bye that's it later but were you where you've already decided that when those boys turn 18 we're We are getting a tour bus, and we are going to go drive around the country and just be old and be that couple that's in a tour bus living life. But, yeah, I don't have any outlets. I always love being on the bus. Yeah. I love being on. That's sad.

I'm happy doing that too. But I'm in that phase right now where I have zero outlets for myself, and it's okay. I've, I'm 46 and I realize now that life is about, you know, we always want to partner like, this is my equal. but it's not about being equal it's about being able to carry the weight so like right now my partner isn't available mentally because he lost his mom

and he's going through a lot of stuff so I told him recently I said if you don't have anything to give right now that's fine I will carry 100% right now because I'm really good at that like my love language is giving and I'm like sprinkling it to the boys so but he's also he's good at balancing

do you let him give to you so right now he can't and we've had that discussion and I said it's perfectly fine right now that I'm carrying things because he's he's starting to come back around do you mean just emotionally emotionally yeah and just kind of I mean he's definitely there to help take care of the kids with me but emotionally yeah so I think it's important that people understand that it's not about being 50 50 it's like some days if you can be 100% and the other person's zero and being okay with that and discussing that So that's, right now, that's where I'm at. That's so amazing.

That's actually really hard for people to do. I don't think I've ever been able to do that. I think you have to be really communicative to express that, hey, I'm about 65 right now. You know what I mean? I need this. But the secret there is having a good partner because I have had shit partners in the past. And you have a great partner. I didn't care about myself until I had my son.

And now my standards are like, and so my boyfriend now, he's a great man. I know that he can handle things when the, the table's turn. That's so great. I think that way about relationships all the time, it's like the give and take, but also really what I'm hearing you say is like everyone's life experience is their own. We choose to be with our partner and we create this unit, but there's sort of this expectation that because you're in a unit that means your life doesn't really exist outside of that unit, when it's so important to give people the free. to have their own life experience

like a totally independent one of their partner. And figuring that out as a family is challenging. But you know what? It's like when you do a puzzle and you get to the like you know the end or you really figure it out and you're like oh my God this is great. Like I love

being in this chaos right now. It makes me feel like a really good mom because I love being a mom. Like my whole life everybody used to call me Mama Mia and I hated it and then once I finally was Mama Mia I was like Fuck, yeah, I am. And I just, I love it.

So I feel like I'm in this little puzzle right now and I'm like holding everybody together and I'm really loving it. It's stressful. I have to fly to Mississippi tomorrow with two boys with a layover. Yeah. And because I have to fly with both of them, we have to fly, you know, Southwest coach, which maybe that's on snobby, but like I like to fly in first class. But so, like, you know, I'm going on Southwest because we can all sit together in a row.

And like, we have a layover because there's no direct flights to Mississippi. So pray for me tomorrow. But, like, I just, I'm looking forward to that kind of stuff. No, of course, here's the thing. No matter how, if it's, if it's an easy trip or if it's, you just fucking do it. Yeah. Like, that's the thing. Yeah.

You just do it and you, you get through it. Yeah. You just do. So when I land tomorrow at 9.30, I'm going to feel like exhausted, but I'm going to be like, you know, yeah. So what now that you, I mean, we only touched on the. surface i'd love to get into like all the other year the you know the rest of it but let's talk about our white female women adults so yeah but i always talk about our childhood i i yeah who are you now well that's what i was going to say like who are you like how you look back and you reflect on like

what you came from how you grew up the the sort of like wild tapestry that you both came from Oh, I like that, Shpoop. Wild tapestry. That's the name of her new album. I love it. It's so wild that. Wild tapestry and gypsy tally-tolerico. It's all caro-king songs.

Like, from back to front. So, but, but like, what, you know, what would you say that you took from your life that you still want to give your kids some of? And what is it, or not? Or what is it that, like, you think is so different from how you grew up. I'm going to speak for all of us, but I shouldn't, but I would, I observe as the alpha pub. The elder. We all saw our parents like really busy working and like potentially

career was always sort of first. It was like there was just certain things that had to be accepted and maybe parenting not always first. And I would say that all four of us, Sibs, we've really prioritized parenting over anything at the detriment of relationships. Relationships, career, whatever. So where we all four have children now, two, I have three. Milo's 20. Sailor, Elisium Ryder.

I can believe it. So that was like our, I would say it's been something for all of us to reparent ourselves through having our children and potentially healing some of those wounds while celebrating the beautiful tapestry, as you say, of what we came from. And that's for sure been my journey of, and throughout, I've had sort of two, I had Milo first just for 10 years. And then I had a whole other family with Sailor and Lula who are 8 and 10 now. so yeah it's an interesting thing and now I'm starting a business and trying to figure out how I can be home with them and not be on set and away and traveling but fulfilling my dreams and goals and stuff like them I've got nice taste I've got all the samples I love it I'm so excited but it's so fun to allow yourself to it for life right here treats

Oh, yeah. All live. All live. But it's so fun to explore your secret. It should have been all live. All live. Well, you can come in and do a co-lab. I'll do a co-lab called All Live-Rour.

Just come do a song for me because you singing your songs makes me so fucking happy. I know. I'm high all day from you singing one of your songs on the toilet. Oh, my God. Whatever those songs. Your morning songs. Coffee songs. They're so good.

Allie. How do you do that? Is this like an Instagram thing? He just starts freestyle. It's like it's not freestyle rapping. It's like he just singing. I don't know. But you could pick anything.

My son is a singer. My little seven-year-old is going to be a huge singer at the 90-tale. He sings most of his songs on the toilet. He'll go in there and he doesn't. He's just singing at the top of his lungs. Oh, it's so cute. It's the spot. I realize that Ron.

has, speaking of toilet talk, Ronnie has what I have, which is when I'm on the, when I'm on the toilet, somehow the door always opens, I'm always like, Ryder, are you, like, I want to talk. Oh. I'm like, I'm like, I'm like,

this goes way back. You do. Always have the door. It's so true. Tatiana was like, and I'm like, hey, Tati, did we ever call the, like, behind the door? No, Kate, when we were living,

we were kids. Our rooms were right across each other. door open she would come to my room sit on the toilet and be like so like all of her like lit it I'm like what is going on I'm like that's amazing I remember going to Oliver's toilet and sit and like

and like goss I gossip but then but Ronnie now Ronnie I realize she she's me yeah she sits she was on the toilet every time she opens it and she's like Lisa her the nanny she's like I feel like tomorrow I should wear

the like she just To like, you know, the blue flower bell bottoms. Oh, my God. Shpoopi, can we talk for one second about you making your dream come true and singing and your album? Because my whole life that I've known you, that's been like, you're always singing. We go over to the house and she has a microphone. I think Liz listen to me. No, what do you mean?

Your version of creep is the greatest thing. I can't sing creep any other. way than you're but it's so beautiful I'm so proud of you I'm so proud of you I told you that it's really funny because there are only like a canful of people

in my life that really know like have like under like have seen it that how important that piece of my life is yeah and it goes back to like we were saying about your Italian heritage like honestly I didn't know

where that belonged to Oliver his son definitely didn't it wasn't a clue it wasn't a clue now I get it I get it but like I always felt very alone in my like hear music in like that crazy connection I think what's so great about this time to we grew up like here we are talking about our family and we're being obviously you know is you want eloquent elegant about how we talk about how we grew up because we don't ever want to you know offend anybody or hurt anybody's feelings and those things can be sensitive. But like we're living in a time now where people feel much more open about being honest about where they come from and what

that meant for them, how they reflect on it. And then as an artist, you don't have to just be one thing anymore. You can go and have a creative idea that has nothing to do with acting and you can go connect with nature and make something beautiful and the hardest thing now is focus though because we're all so distracted yeah and you're already ADHD yeah but to focus in on something you I do too I asked that my I've passed it on to my children to particularly sailor and Lula but I asked the woman that they see who's this incredible reading specialist if she would test me because I've found I've found so many loopholes and ways of memorizing my lines and seeing things differently. But I would love to know.

Like all of my kids have like total diagnosis. They do. See, I want that. I love you guys so much. Let's do our last little thing that we do, which is we're going to do two questions. First of all, do you guys get to see each other a lot? Not enough. It's so stupid because it is hard having this many kids.

We're like, yeah, I know. I mean, so how often a year, let's say, are you seeing? We just like, come up. Sailor's birthday. Whatever you do birthday parties or like Thanksgiving, she does a big shindig, so we drive up. I love where she lives. So I'm always like, can I come up? And you're always like, we need two more.

So. We need two more. Thanksgiving was intense because the kids were up to like midnight, and it was, and I'm super relaxed, but I was like, this is too much. September always feels like the start of something new, whether it's back to school, new projects, or just a fresh season. It's the perfect time to start dreaming about your next adventure. I love that feeling of possibility, thinking about where to go next, what kind of place we'll stay in, and how to make it feel like home. I'm already imagining the kind of Airbnb that would make the trip unforgettable, somewhere with charm character and a little local flavor. If you're planning to be away this September,

why not consider hosting your home on Airbnb while you're gone? Your home could be the highlight of someone else's trip, a cozy place to land, a space that helps them feel like a local. And with Airbnb's co-host feature, you can hire a local co-host to help with everything from managing bookings to making sure your home is guest ready. Find a co-host at Airbnb.ca slash host. I'm Jorge Ramos.

And I'm Paola Ramos. Together we're launching The Moment, a new podcast about what it means to live through a time as uncertain as this one. We sit down with politicians. I would be the first immigrant mayor in generations, but 40% of New Yorkers were born outside of this country. Artists and activists, I mean, do you ever feel demoralized? I might personally lose hope.

This individual might lose the faith, but there's an institution that doesn't lose faith. And that's what I believe in. To bring you depth and analysis from a unique Latino perspective. There's not a single day that Paola and I don't call or text each other, sharing news and thoughts about what's happening in the country. This new podcast will be a way to make that ongoing intergenerational conversation public. Listen to The Moment with Jorge Ramos and Paola Ramos as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I started trying to get pregnant about four years ago now.

We were getting a little bit older, and it just kind of felt like the window could be closing. Bloomberg and IHeart Podcasts present. IVF disrupted, the Kind Body Story, a podcast about a company that promised to revolutionize fertility care. Introducing Kind Body, a new generation of women's health and fertility care. Backed by millions in venture capital and private equity, it grew like a tech startup. While Kind Body did help women start family, It also left behind a stream of disillusioned and angry patients. You think you're finally like with the right people in the right hands.

And then to find out again that you're just not. Don't be fooled. By what? All the bright and shiny. Listen to IVF disrupted, the kind body story. Starting September 19 on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I had this like overwhelming sensation that I had to call it right then. And I just hit call, said, you know, hey, I'm Jacob Schick, I'm the CEO of One Tribe Foundation,

and I just wanted to call on and let her know there's a lot of people battling some of the very same things you're battling. And there is help out there. The Good Stuff podcast, season two, takes a deep look into One Tribe Foundation, a non-profit fighting suicide in the veteran community. September is National Suicide Prevention Month, so join host Jacob and Ashley Schick as they bring you to the front lines of One Tribe's mission. I was married to a combat army veteran. and he actually took his own life to suicide.

One tribe saved my life twice. There's a lot of love that flows through this place and it's sincere. Now it's a personal mission. I wouldn't have to go to any more funerals, you know. I got blown up on a React mission. I ended up having amputation below the knee of my right leg and a traumatic brain injury because I landed on my head. Welcome to Season 2 of the Good Stuff.

Listen to the Good Stuff podcast on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Hi, I'm Jenica Lopez. And in the new season of the Overcomfit podcast, I'm taking you on an exciting journey of self-reflection. Am I ready to enter this new part of my life? Like, am I ready to be in a relationship? Am I ready to have kids and to really just devote myself and my time? I wanted to be successful on my own, not just because of who my mom is.

Like, I felt like I needed to be better or work twice as hard as she did. Join me for conversations about healing and growth. Life is freaking hard. And growth doesn't happen in comfort. Happened in motion, even when you're hurting. All from one of my favorite spaces, the kitchen. Honestly, these are going to come out so freaking amazing. Be a part of my new chapter and listen to the new season of the Overcomper podcast

as part of the MyCultura podcast network on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. relaxed that when I'm sometimes when we're like doing kids stuff together she's so laid back and the kids you're such a good strict mama I am so she's crazy I start to these moments but the kids are like jumping and running and things and I'm just like

I can't discipline her kids and then I'm like when Lula we went to see Taylor Swift that was so cute Ronnie and Lula but the thing is is for me then I'm sitting there I'm like I feel like my kids watch that and they're like you're the worst mom what are you doing no me about me but was your mom

was your mom very strict with you or very well yes so and then we were off doing our own crazy shit I don't think my mom was strict with me but I was a little bit scared of her yeah my kids are definitely scared of me oh yeah oh god okay here's the question okay the first part of the question the two part of the question first part of the question is if there's something that you wish you had more of with your of your sister like sort of something you would emulate what would that be and then the second part of the question would be something that you wish that you could alleviate from your sister that you know that it would be you know make her life just easier or you know for for me like live always knows like the things like

the soap's the real estate the yeah the real estate the soaps like every time she comes home for christmas or something like I kind of like what's in there and it's like that Nutrugina rain bath so that's from dad oh I but yeah that's I see that in dad's shower and I was like remember that oh my goodness Gina like body oil she always knows all the stuff like the foods and the products and the like just everything so I'm always like as a mom and a younger sister I'm always like watching like when you used to

but if I tell you you don't like it you can observe it but if I tell her she's kind of acts cool because she'll send these like group texts and it's like get these nightlights and so the first thing I do it is straight to Amazon and I buy all the stuff where there's like spatulas and I'm like so she's always

got like the she's always got the inn on like the stuff that works Because you know what, like, as a mom, you buy everything, and then you realize nothing works, and then, like, the kids don't eat it. But she always just knows. And I wish I had that. So I just kind of, like, sit back. So every time I go to your house, I'm, like, checking everything out.

So that's, like, one of my favorite things about you as a mom, sister mom, is that you just, like, you just kind of beast through being a mom. Like, I know that you've had practice with, like, Milo and stuff. But, like, you just, you just, you know, I would never notice. find the nutrigena rain bath. And I know you say it came from dad, but like, it smells so good. Everywhere I go, I look and I like, I just collect like, oh, that smells good. That felt good. Yeah, but it sounded good.

Or I want to eat that. You know when you like children's shampoo, right? And you have to get like kid shampoo, but she. Oh, the noodle and boo. One time she had, no, you had like pantine. And I was like, oh, right, pantine two and one for kids. That's so smart. You just knock it out.

It smells so good. And that was a game changer for a couple years. The pantines. two and one. Lula has this like crazy curly hair and she's always winds up in bed with me and the curls it's so much hair I'm like choking on it

but now I just sniff the pantine hair I used to be a panting girl once but now I have like three years left I remember your pantine hair I remember that commercial she's like on the weren't you on like a trampoline and she's like So what would you alleviate

for your sister I mean, you know, we've all been single moms and moms with partners and then single moms and stuff. So as a mom who's been a single mom and now I have a partner and I know that you're single moming, I always, my wish is to alleviate some of the weight that you carry with three children because now having two, I know how insane it is. and that's for me to trust trust a love trust and just

surrender and trust to allow you know okay yes are you dating I don't I mean no no no let me talk to Aaron maybe we go on a date oh Aaron's so cute I've never dated

I don't think I've ever been on a date in my act I could think of one person and I really didn't enjoy it oh really Like, hi, I love you. We're together. I just saw one of those of yours from like when I was in New York a couple days ago. That's my wish for you though.

Because like I went through like so many duds and just bad boys. I can change you. I can fix you. And I have like the most amazing guy now that I manifested and we were friends for 17 years and I just never saw it. And then all of a sudden one day I said I was like, if I'm going to date again, you need to write me a 10,000 or a thousand word essay on how you won't waste my time. and he fucking did it. He wrote me, and I don't care if he went through chat, GBT, but he wrote me an essay

about how he won't waste my time, and he does not waste my time now. And so I wish, my wish for you is, and he's like a hot biker bearded thing. And I just, and I want that for her. I want her to, like, have a man that's just, I told my, I told him, I said, if you want me, you need to bonk me over the head

like a caveman and drag me into your cave. I love that. Because that's the only way it's going to work. And I want you to get bonked over the head and just, to find a man that's just like a man. I feel like my whole life is older. I've been, like,

but mine is older. You need an older man. Yeah. Okay. He's going to bonk the shit out of you. Yeah, you need to get fun. I'm like, scary in heart states. Like, I still, I have like a love in my heart still,

and it just takes me a long time to. Yeah. I'm still. You need an older man to bonk you. Yeah. So that's, that's my manifestation for you. It takes a long time for me to let go.

Like, if I love someone, I love them so much, and it's forever. I'm friends with every boyfriend I've ever had. I'm not friends with any of them, and I don't want to. But then when it arrives, you shift pretty quick. Yes. The love just goes away quickly. If we show up, if you're going to go back to you. If he shows up, he's like, okay, I took good down.

Yeah, this is good. That sounds great. That's not a lover of my heart. for a long time. It'll come. It'll come. And what about you for your sister, Spoo?

What was, I was trying to remember the first question. What do you love that you wish you had more of? Just time. Energetically. Energetic her personality of who she is. I would say the first thing that jumped at, was just time for us to know each other more because we met in such an abrupt way.

And it was always like, oh, we're siblings and we're sisters. But we've never, I don't think we've ever, we've never gone away just the two of us. and had like a sleep over weekend because there's always Chelsea there Chalaj there and my dad there we it's hard for us to just be alone together we should go to like massage places you go to like for the weekend no because I don't want a calonic but I did I'm a massage and a fasting I'm gonna start doing some coffee calonic I love that's good about no but what is it about her who she is that is

something that you wish you had more of what's the same thing I wish I could alleviate her power and her strength yeah but I wish that she could surrender to trust sometimes that like but that but but but I get yeah that she's safe if we have a thing with safety and trust because it's that thing of it's not like if the person's going to leave it's like when are you leaving because I know you're leaving because everybody left from our abandonment issues and that's a whole other episode but we can we love fiercely I know what you're talking about um yeah I love you guys I know.

We can do this forever. We didn't get to ask you any questions about your sibbiness. I know. But you guys talk about it all the time. You know. Yeah. You talk about it. Yeah.

Our listeners know so much. Yeah. About your dad. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, it's been headline after headline. But spooop, I want you to talk a little bit before we go about what you're doing right. Oh.

So people can get excited. Yeah. If you can talk about it. No, you need to talk about it. I haven't talked about it, but I totally can. You can. You can. Okay.

Talk about it. I'm such. secret person. It's so funny. I just, you know what it is? It's that thing of, as an actor, you kind of don't, you always feel like, oh, the movie might not come out, even if it's a huge movie, so you don't talk about it until it comes out yet. So I relocated to this little mountain town. And I always had these dreams of, I've always been such a homebody and kind of creating things at home. But my whole life I've had these visions of like chickens and children and music and food. And so I started a business that's called Pink Mountain. And I've been working really

hard to kind of trademark everything and have everything be. But I have olive oil and olives were growing dropping into my living room and I started making olive oil. And my favorite olive oil. Thank you. It's so good. I'm learning. I love it. So much. Well, and our Italian-iness, like, everywhere I've gone my whole life, I bring all of, like, I have to just cover everything in olive oil and salt, or I'd rather not eat it. If I have to go somewhere and there's no olive oil and salt, I might not eat. But I also adopted all these pixie tangerine trees, which are a special thing of Ohai.

And so I did kind of a slightly crazy thing. COVID happened, we relocated to this town where Milo was going to school and I let go of all my representation, all my agents and managers and, yeah, for three years. Not because of anything other than, I decided that I wanted to allow myself to be able to think without influence from other people because we're always so influenced. Like you'll read a script and then you'll have one thought and then they're convincing you of something else. And I thought, what would, after being 13 and starting, I just was like wanted to know what it was like to exist in something that I could create that was a hundred

percent my painting or my, what was coming from my soul and my mind. And so I kind of like cleared the space and then put a little team together to help me do that. And so I've been working towards that. It's been really fun. Are you, were you pressing me all? It was like local? Yes. Well, that is a whole journey. this week we drove three hours away to the most incredible place and I met this wild amazing mad scientist man it's really

that part's really interesting is sort of studying I love to study I think that's my favorite thing about being an actor is having not gone to college and maybe not having the best education I love learning things and in such an intense kind of focused way so I'm just enjoying nerding out

on the passion of like farmer live yeah i love being farmer live it's so fun we have chicken and cats and by the way chickens are the best pets ever they're the best they put themselves to sleep at night and they give you one egg every day they're so cute i loved my chickens i had my chickens for a long time and then one lasted like 11 years it was like almost a decade it was crazy people were like chickens last out like I'm like well she did she did she's fun I'm jealous very sweet they're like little dinosaurs yeah well it's not as simple as it's not simple it's so

complicated I'm not talking about the workload I'm just saying nature working with you know food and nourishment I've learned a lot from that when we moved from during COVID the why I called it Pink Mountain is the town I live and has this thing called the pink moment and every day the mountain turns pink for about three minutes, but I had never grown up in the mountains and there's something so powerful about whenever I was stressing out going through a lot of changes and I would go outside and there

was this like huge mountain and it just put everything in such perspective that all my problems and we're going to come and go and the mountain's not going anywhere. We all feel about Colorado like growing up in Colorado I think we all like weirdly just want to be there but we're not which is weird and in the wisdom in the mountain it's like thousands and thousands of years of it's just there yeah and all these all these other things are going to come and go and the mountain's still going to be there well I can't wait for all of this to start happening and for it to come out and people are going to love it I just know it because you're working so passionately with it and like even just the way it looks and you're I didn't even get to show you I can't wait I can't wait to show you more other than look I've been sending Christmas I didn't send you any

for Christmas. Every Christmas I've been sending marmalade and olive oil. I love you guys. I love you guys. I love you so much. So, bye. It's important that we just

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