Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - We've Been Doing This For a Year?!
Episode Date: December 3, 2020We're a little late, but it's been a year since "Sibling Revelry" launched! On this episode, Kate and Oliver catch up on the past few weeks, read some listener emails, and more. Executive Producers: ...Kate Hudson and Oliver HudsonProduced by Allison BresnickMusic by Mark HudsonThis show is powered by Simplecast.This episode is sponsored by Sakara, OLIPOP, Each & Every, and Bev. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hi, I'm Kate Hudson.
And my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship.
And what it's like to be siblings.
We are a sibling rivalry.
No, no
Sibling reverie
Don't do that with your mouth
Sibling
Reveory
That's good
I love you
I love you
I don't want you to take this personally
Okay
But
But you're like the last
person I want to be talking to right
like I love working with you and I love doing this but there's so many other things I'd rather
be doing right now okay I couldn't agree with you more I couldn't agree with you more I'm
dreading I knew I could tell you that and that you'd probably feel the same way and that we'd both
be okay with it I do it's a Sunday there's a Sunday the baby's finally sleeping I
There's, like, so many things I could be doing.
I know.
Well, let's do a shorthy.
No, I just think that this is a good thing for people to understand that it's like, okay, you know,
to just sometimes not want to hang with your sibling.
I feel like this is less to do with me and more about just what you could be doing,
the other things that you could be doing.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, if you're going to talk to anyone, you know, it would be me.
I mean, who else would you want on here right now?
You know?
It's true.
That's probably true.
That would be really interesting.
I probably would rather talk to Bill Gates than you.
Yeah.
No, I would.
Well, we're here.
Let's see.
Well, how is your Thanksgiving?
Oh, yeah, we didn't have Thanksgiving together.
It was fine.
It was wonderful.
We had the Fuji Cow was over.
Everyone got tested because, you know, I'm shooting.
so I have to be super careful.
Danny's brothers and mom.
And so they got tested and we had a great Thanksgiving.
It was really mellow.
We sat outside and I cooked the whole thing, which was kind of crazy.
But everything turned out.
I mean, that's not fair.
Some people, like, Cian, she brought a salad and Danny's mom made some root
vegetables and helped me in the kitchen and stuff like that.
But it was wild.
I don't think I've ever made.
made a Thanksgiving like that.
I did once in,
and when I was shooting Fools Gold in Australia,
over Thanksgiving,
I cooked a whole Thanksgiving,
but this was the first time I'd done it myself like that.
And, um,
it was,
it sucked to be away from everyone,
but it was kind of nice.
It was so easy and we all cooked
and it was mellow and
we did our thankfuls and Joey cried.
Why did he get sad when he was being grateful
for his wife?
He was,
he was,
Yeah, he was thankful for the moment.
And then he was also, you know, just then he moved off onto making the world a better place.
And it being more, you know, everyone being more together.
Was he microdosing shrooms?
Not so much animosity towards each other.
He was totally, he was totally microdosing.
There's a strong possibility.
Yeah. Or not.
Or just like ate some chocolate mushroom.
It was something
It was something
But it was great
Everyone gave a good toast
Kids gave a good toast
It was good, it was simple
Nice
It was kind of nice
Nice
It was kind of nice
I mean I missed everybody
It was wonderful and nice
And I thought it was interesting
Because what I found about
Celebrating away from the people
That I normally celebrate
Which only usually happened
when I was working, it just sort of felt like, I don't know, this whole COVID experience has distilled down sort of the meaning of like your immediate family.
And the one thing I will say is that I love, I love that our family unit is good. Like it's a good, solid family unit. It's sort of brought that into real focus for me.
and that I felt content.
And as much as I missed everybody, I felt full.
That also being said, it just didn't feel like a normal big holiday.
And Thanksgiving is like my favorite holiday, you know, where everybody's there and you've got the foot.
We didn't even have football.
It was like, cancel.
There were two games.
No, I know.
It's been such a different year.
So for me, I just, I think I'm getting to the point where I'm ready for things.
to just fucking go back to normal.
Like right when I'm ready for it to kind of go back to normal,
it's like we shut, L.A. shuts down again.
I know.
You know?
I know.
I'm over it.
I'm over it for so many reasons.
But specifically to this, you know, speaking to this podcast,
I just can't wait to do this in person again with guests
and, you know, having the one-on-one or two-on-two experience.
I know.
Ah, God, Zoom.
Ollie, it's been a year
We didn't even properly
Because of COVID
We just like don't celebrate things properly
And we didn't even celebrate our year anniversary
Oh, I know
It's been one whole year
Wow
We've been potting for a year
How many episodes do we have?
54-55
Wow
One a week
Can I
quit now or should I have. Next year is going to be better. No, you're not done. We're just getting
started. I feel like I want to like kick this up a notch now. First of all, once we can get
back out there, we do live shows, which will be really fun. I can't wait to do a live show.
Can't wait to do that? Can we do a number? Yeah, well, we're going to open every show with like
a choreographed situation. Great. Great. Because that's what I think people need. You know,
they need a, they need a, our version of Donnie and Murray.
that's exactly what we are
you and I
you and I on a talk show would crush
Oliver
listen you need to be more humble
no I can't
it would crush
it would be fun
it would be fun and then hopefully it would crush
now the ratings would be
fucking huge
oh god
I just want to be over
Also, right at the time when you realize, like, oh, we can't be complacent because it's getting worse, right?
So right when you're just so sick of it, it's like, oh, fuck it.
You just have that moment like, oh, fuck it.
I don't care.
And then you're like, no, I do care.
It's getting really bad.
We can't, you know.
I was thinking about the other day and I was like, oh, my God, I was watching a show and it was in New York.
And I was like, oh, my God, I would give anything right now to go into one of my favorite little New York drink spots that's like cozy with like a mixologist at night and like have a little bourbon cocktail with my friends and stay out to like one and like walk the streets and laugh and just like, oh my God, you're so crazy.
And without your mask.
It's like a montage and a movie of your life.
I want to do it so bad. I can't wait to go to a bar.
It's going to be, it'll probably be crazy.
Like once the All Clear is given, I mean, you know, it's going to be party time.
People are going to go nuts.
I don't think people are going to go nuts, but I do think people are going to be excited to, like, connect in spaces.
Like, I actually think that even though the restaurant business is getting hit so hard, I have so many friends in the restaurant business.
And it's such a hard time for them right now.
I just, my heart goes out to everybody in, like, with a restaurant and bar community.
I'm thinking about all of our friends who have spent their whole life, like, building
and creating the most beautiful places that, like, and they've all been shut down for a year, basically.
Shut down or at half capacity.
I mean, that's just wild.
But I think what's going to happen once this is, like, kind of.
have lifted or vaccine or it starts to go down or whatever you're going to see people are going to be
out and they're going to be so happy to be out it's going to be it's going to feel joyous
they'll probably be covid babies not like afterwards kind of like after world war two you know
there's going to be a covid boom i thought it might happen during covid but i think there's been
more divorces and fights and then i think after covid ends everyone's going to want to get laid
and everyone's going to sleep with everybody,
and then you're going to have babies all over the place.
And there's also going to be the rush of people who are like, great,
I'm so happy we're out of COVID.
I'm leaving you.
Right, right, right.
Stuck in this house.
Thank you.
Thank you for making this time at least somewhat manageable,
but it's over.
All right.
And by the way, you can have the kids.
Yeah, I'm very.
very happy with you being primary
parent. Bye.
Right, great. Yeah. Hey,
one weekend a month, I'm fine with that.
Oh, my God.
So funny.
But yeah, no, I was wondering about work as well
because I'm going back to work in December
and I texted the producer today.
I said, are we going back to work? And apparently
we're essential workers.
Yeah.
I guess.
We're considered.
That category, I guess.
I mean, for entertainment purposes.
You know what I was thinking?
It's like when you're doing these things, you realize like, oh, yeah, entertainment, it kind of is essential, isn't it?
I mean, what would we be doing right now without the outlet of entertainment?
And by the way, you know, that would, that even goes, let's just boil this down to not having technology.
If we were all living back in the, you know, in here, I like, I like going.
back to Hunter Gatherer days.
It's kind of my thing, you know.
But think about
if it was Hunter Gatherer, we'd be putting on
our own entertainment.
Yeah.
Do you think back in Hunter Gather
days, there was like, they did plays?
Yeah, of course.
Of course. They did all kinds of fun
sort of things for entertainment.
They danced and they would...
We don't know.
Yeah, we do.
Yeah, we do.
We know that the Hunter Gathers danced.
Yes. Oliver, of course.
Well, there was art in the caves, but we have no evidence that they were like dancing.
Oh, yeah, there was music and sound experiences.
I love your head.
If you guys can see Oliver's face right now, he's like trying.
He doesn't know if he should believe me or if he...
I don't know what I'm talking.
about but you know what here i'm going to look it up right now okay yeah i'm i'm just fucking with you
i have no idea but let's see do you think kids got together and like did you know did routines and
stuff hunter gatherers hold on oliver jesus did hunter gatherers have entertainment well we know
you know they had instruments so analysis of the anthropological literature suggests that hunter
gatherers use play and humor more or less deliberate
to make their highly egotarian mode of existence possible.
Mm-hmm.
So...
Right. The court jester, it makes it possible to have to exist.
You need humor and you need a court jester to exist.
Is Ron? Oh, my God. Where's my phone?
Is she just singing?
She's singing, let it go.
She's singing let it go.
She's all about Frozen now?
Yeah, it's all about Frozen.
It's the only thing we've ever let her watch,
which she's just completely obsessed with.
And we have to skip through the monster part.
So like write when Elsa and she goes, get out.
And then the monster comes.
We like basically skip to the end.
But she's, yeah,
She's totally obsessed.
She sings that.
She sings, she's really liking the sound of music.
I've been showing her the videos from Sound of Music.
Mm-hmm.
She loves that.
Mm-hmm.
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Right, exactly. I'm giving him an olip. By the way,
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Yeah, it's really, really good.
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Yeah, I like the orange squeeze personally.
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Okay, ready? Emails.
I never read these. I'm going to read it. It's my turn. Okay.
Oh, good.
Dear Oliver and Kate, I realize you receive many emails and messages each day,
so I am unsure if this will make it to you, but I wanted to send it anyway.
My name is Annie, and similar to all of your listeners, I'm a huge fan of your podcast.
Your episodes keep me company while I am running, cleaning, studying, or doing schoolwork.
I'm a Ph.D. student. And while on road trips.
I'm continuously inspired by your vulnerability and honesty.
Most importantly, I'm inspired by the love at the center of your family relationships,
which is evident in the stories you tell and the way you talk about family.
It reminds me of what is important in life, spending time with people you love.
I'm lucky enough to have two siblings, an older sister and younger brother.
I joke with my siblings about being the middle child,
yet I feel incredibly lucky that I am sandwiched in between two amazing people.
I can say with all my heart that my siblings have made me who I am
and inspire me to be the best version of myself.
My sister is thoughtful, selfless, and just has a heart for serving others.
My brother is kind, patient, and always an optimist.
I realize people have different feelings about being a middle child or about siblings in general,
but as one of my favorite TV show says, the middle is the best place to be.
When I listen to your podcast, I laugh, I cry, and walk away with immense gratitude for family and the people I love.
Thank you for sharing your stories and your hearts with your listeners.
Lastly, thank you to everyone on your team who makes the podcast possible.
What a wonderful group of people with love, Annie.
Aw.
That's so cute.
I love that, Annie.
And you know what?
We are so grateful for our team.
Take a load off, Annie.
That makes us possible to Allison, our producer.
Her name is Alison Bresnick.
And then we have Amanda who works with us with our ads.
and then we have an editor
and his name's Josh
Simple cast is our host
who got a good little team
and so thank you Annie
and it sounds like you have
awesome sweet email
awesome siblings I know
and I love that she's sharing
you know a lot of times we read things
that can be heartbreaking
you know it's also nice to read
something that's just a sort of a love letter
to their siblings you know
she just loves her siblings
I also like what she's saying about being sandwiched in between.
I feel that way.
You know, I'm like sandwiched in between my favorite people.
Mm-hmm.
You know.
That's right.
Me.
Me.
You just, you went off.
The best was that you just went off.
Yeah, me.
It went black.
Yeah, no, I totally, I feel Annie right now.
Thank you for setting that in, Annie.
That is so awesome.
Okay, ready?
Hi, Caden Oliver, and all the wonderful people who make this podcast happen.
Firstly, wow, you guys are the best.
Surely you are aware of that by now, but if not, here's a reminder.
Don't call me Shirley.
Oh, that's so sweet.
As wild as this sounds, having spent many, many hours listening to you guys,
I sort of feel like you're both now friends rather than celebrity strangers.
At the beginning of COVID, I drove partway across Australia
and listened to your podcast for eight hours straight.
Oh, my God.
Wow.
It felt so odd getting out of the car alone at the end of my trip,
having felt like I spent the entire trip with company.
This podcast has been such an incredible source of light
in such a wild, crazy, in such wild crazy times.
And on multiple occasions has caused me to look like,
an idiot while I sit in the car alone laughing so hard at the two of you singing. Please never stop
singing. My COVID story is very mild compared to others who have suffered greatly, but nonetheless
it's been a challenging year. Thanks to you too, though, my year has still consisted of
laughs, smiles, and a hope for a better tomorrow. I'm so incredibly fortunate to have the two
greatest siblings who I would literally do anything for. But,
listening to the podcast has made me realize that not everyone has been as lucky. Ultimately,
this realization has given me a deeper sense of gratitude for them both. I love this. I find it so
interesting that even though as siblings, we are often all brought up in the same household with the
same parents and the same rules, but we can turn out so extremely different. I guess it proves that
we are each unique in our own ways and maybe the best way to describe that simply is to compare it to
flowers all in the same garden bed each surrounded by the same environment but each grow differently
some maybe with shared roots and perhaps helping each other to grow wow that makes me teary
anyway i won't get too deep or ramble on but just wanted to send an email to say thank you
so much for doing what you do i always feel so much happier after listening to the podcast and i'm
truly grateful for the many laughs shared.
Keep up the wonderful work and thank you for making the ads actually interesting.
Hard to do, but you guys do it brilliantly.
All the best.
Lots of love.
Arina.
Arena.
Erin.
Erin.
Actually, from Melbourne.
Melbourne, Australia.
She's 21.
P.S.
I will absolutely be buying tickets to your live show when the time comes.
Good.
From Melbourne.
That's right.
Melbourne, baby.
Melbourne. Danny just yelled out.
Rambelon.
How to pronounce it probably Melbourne.
Erin, she spells it
E-R-I-N-N-A.
Erina.
Oliver's wife
Spels it because
Irina would be with an I.
E-R-R-A-I-E-R-E-R-E. I guess
Erinah, yeah.
Erin, my wife, E, is two ends.
No way.
That was beautiful.
Beautiful, and articulate and poetic.
I love that.
I like sharing the roots and helping each other grow is really beautiful.
And it's so true, isn't it?
Huh?
We're a bed of flowers.
On a bed of roses.
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How does that start?
It starts really like,
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Exactly.
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Why?
Because you stink.
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Yeah, you do.
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Hi.
Kate and Oliver and those at Sibling Ravelry,
I listen to your podcast every morning on my walk to work.
It has gotten me through some pretty painful times.
Being considered an essential worker
in the commercial property management field
was not something I was aware of
when picking this profession.
So it was a rude awakening when I first found out
that I'm required to be at work every day
during a global pandemic.
Your chemistry, playfulness, positivity,
and realness, in capital letters,
has made each morning walk a little bit easier
and has helped me not to get wrapped up
in my own thoughts as I make my way to work.
Separately, I have a younger sister that works in New York
who I struggle with maintaining a healthy, positive relationship
from time to time.
We are not typically in sync.
Being extreme opposites and four years apart
has made it hard to relate to each other on many levels.
Now the distance and pandemic has made it even harder.
I admire how you two make it work
and you've provided me with some ideas
on how to maintain and nurture my relationship
with my sister, and for that I thank you.
Making an effort to maintain a sense of humor
with each other and not taking things too seriously
has made it easier at times.
I hope you continue to enjoy your time in Colorado
and sending love from Chicago.
Grace.
Aw.
We're changing lives.
We're changing so many lives.
We're changing lives every day.
We're like I served Mother Teresa.
What is that?
What is that?
Oh, my God.
Oliver.
Grace.
Grace.
Grace.
I am, first of all, thank you.
The other thing is, is it's so hard to not feel connected to your sibling.
I know.
I mean, you know, Aaron, we saw Brooks, her brother in Colorado this year, but she hadn't seen him
in almost two years, right?
Yeah, almost two years.
That's just crazy.
It's tough.
It's so sad.
All right.
But it does feel good on a serious note.
It feels good from a selfish point of view when we get these emails and you know that some
of the things that you're saying are resonating and people are sort of, you know,
hearing our conversations and our stories and the way that we interact and using it in their
own lives with their own siblings. It feels good. I also think, too, you know, we talk a lot about,
you know, it's like when Grace writes this in, you know, one of the things that I would say
is that I think it's more common to have that kind of relationship with your sibling than
it is to have really super crazy close relationships with your siblings you know i think more people
probably relate to grace's experience than they do say ours where we're all so like codependent
on each other which by the way grace has its own set of complications you know exactly but that being
said you know i think we all long to connect to our to people who kind of know our story the best
you know
it's like you can even hear it
in the way that she's writing
and that you know
she could tell like
she would like to have
a stronger relationship
and a positive relationship
with her sibling
well she also talks about humor
and how important humor is
you know
especially in getting through things
not it being a mask
because sometimes humor
you know
yeah
can I be honest
about something
having a sense of humor
I'd love to know what that means.
For instance, like, what does it mean to have a good sense of humor?
How does one, I guess, how do you measure it?
That's what I'm trying to understand.
Like, how do you measure who has a good sense of humor?
But people who aren't funny or don't get funny are, they just suck.
I have to say, like, it must be miserable to not, to have no humor.
It might, like, I don't know how someone, you know what I mean?
Yeah, you make a great point, though, with what is a sense of humor, what is funny.
And I think that it just is different for everyone.
I think when you have a group of people who can click with the same sense of humor,
then for that group, they are funny together.
But some, they might not like what I do, you know, in my group of friends.
They don't get us as we don't get them.
But collectively in their little group, they are funny to each other.
Right, right.
But hold on a second.
Like, why is it that, like, you could have one person say exactly the same thing as another person, exactly the same thing, exactly the same idea, trying to get the same response.
But one person will actually be able through whatever it is that they have, whatever it is that they're able to convey, they'll be able to make someone really laugh.
Whereas another person, you could be like, that's fucked up and that's really offensive.
right yeah yeah it's a great it's a great question i mean i think it has to do with the nature of
the person the timing whatever i mean i have more people tell me that i can get away with things
that most people can't you know why is that i don't know because i'm so handsome um no no i think
it's that yeah my only concern with you is that then you get a little carried away and
like one day you won't get away with it and you're just going to like so far so far so good you know
I know I know I know when to hold my tongue and when to sort of I don't know farts are funny like
farts are universally funny they always will be um Oliver I love you this was a good little ketchup
I'm excited for Christmas let's end on this I'm excited for Christmas I know we're not going to be
in Colorado um and that's okay I'm kind of excited for a little LA action you know it'll be fun
we're going to have a good time it's going to be fun
Christmas is going to be good
and we definitely have
more
episodes to discuss this
but I love you. This is so fun and
I'll see you next time
on Zoom
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producer is Alison Bresnick
music by Mark Hudson, aka
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