Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver Hudson - What’s in Your Inbox? (An Email Episode)

Episode Date: March 11, 2021

It's another email episode! Kate and Oliver read listener emails, debate vocabulary words, laugh, and cry. Share you stories with us: [e-mail] Producers: Kate Hudson and Oliver HudsonProduced by Allison BresnickEdited by Josh WindischMusic by Mark HudsonThis show is powered by Simplecast.This episode is sponsored by Sakara, Article, and Coors Light.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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No, no. Sibling rivalry. Don't do that with your mouth. sibling Reveory That's good Oliver You know what's so crazy

about when we're airing this episode Is that it marks literally a year from lockdown from quarantine It was like Oh Oh Our last in-person interview

Right It was fortune and price. Then I guess a couple weeks later, right, or something, we went into lockdown. Yeah. Yeah, because Bodey's birthday, my middle kid, 10 days after this, March 19th, and we had a, we did not have a birthday party because of COVID-19. And Bode's so cool. He was like, huh, okay, whatever. Yeah, he's like, yeah, it's good.

It's fine. And by the way, Bode's going to be, he's going to, it's going to, March 19th is coming up. I know. I'll be a two-birthday COVID kid. I can't wait. I can't wait for everyone to be vaccinated. I just, I just, I just, I just, I just can't wait to be sitting in your, in your study with the siblings across from us. Like we did, like, we drinking a glass of wine or a tequila or a spritzer, whatever it is. We used to get, like, wasted. Yeah, we had like drinking sessions that were fun and I can't wait. I'm just kidding. We never got wasted. I wouldn't be able to do interviews wasted. I've never been more excited for a vaccination in my whole life.

I'm getting ready. I just need someone to put it in my arm or on my butt. I'm excited that people who have been really having a hard time getting out into the world and reintegrating because, you know, jobs and things like haven't been hiring. I'm just excited that people are going to start to go back to work, you know. That's going to be so great. Yeah, you can kind of feel the light at the end of the tunnel, can't you? You can sort of feel it and then you just don't want to get despondent. Is that the right word?

I don't know if that one work. I think despondent. Dispondent. Hey, Siri. I think. What's the definition of despondent? I think that might work. It's a state.

Feeling or discouragement. Yeah. Yeah, I'm right. I think you're despondent. I think I'm not sure it's the right word. It's more like complacent. Maybe complacent. Maybe that's what you were looking for.

Yeah, complacent might be the better word. Yeah, despondency is like a sad emotional state. No, complacent, isn't it? Smug or uncritical satisfaction with one's self or one's achievements. Definitely the wrong word. That's complacency? Yeah. What?

You were trying to say, so don't get, meaning don't get complacent, meaning like, don't don't think that we're out of the woods and just go out and party. Okay, but yeah, but that's not the word. Complacent is... That's not the word I was looking for. Damn it. The word is... This is good.

This should be... We should put this apart and say, what's the word? What's the word? Oh, what's the word? The word. What's the word? And then that, what's the word? Then people can write in and help us.

of our terrible vocabulary. That's a good idea. What's the word? I like that. It's a great title for a segment. Okay. Ollie. Emails.

Let's go. Emails. What's up with these emails? What's in your inbox? I hope this first one isn't going to be like, we're like laughing and then it's going to be something sad. But okay. I know.

Here we go. Allison always gives us the same. sad ones. Okay, I'm going to start. So, subject line was, wow. That last episode with the Duplas brothers, of whom I was unaware, I am embarrassed to admit, was the best capital letters. Brutal honesty from all four of you with Oliver being especially vulnerable. If we would all own up to our own petty little jealousies and procrastination habits, the world would be a much nicer place. Thank you from the Netherlands.

Wow. You know what's impressive about this? The entire Netherlands wrote this. I love all of the Netherlands. This is huge. The Netherlands, we love you. We love you, Netherlands. Thank you.

But it's so true that episode was so, I have to say, one of my favorites, too. I think it does say a lot when you can open up and just be really honest about your stuff. It's so liberating. Isn't it funny? There's some episodes and guests that we have on that, you know, you're working a little bit more. And then there are some that are just so easy, breezy. And it just rolls.

And the Duplas brothers, I just felt that. It was as if there was no mics and we were sitting in a booth and having an amazing conversation. It just rolled. So great. I loved it. I love those guys. Yeah, it was so great. And I'm so glad they joined us. And I also think, you know, we like to talk about all kinds of stuff on here and we're curious people.

But really, family dynamics is just the most fascinating thing. To me, I know to you too, that's just something we love. And when we get a sibling dynamic that's really juicy like that one and they're available. and open to talking about it. I mean, they wrote a whole book about it. It was just right. So. Yeah. I mean, I want to work with them.

I hope that they think I'm talented and they think about me, you know, from time to time. You know what I mean? You just did two songs. I think, think about me in time, time to time. Time after time. Time after time. When you're lost and you love, knew where to find me. Oh, that's the best song ever.

Time after time. It is. All right. I'm going to go now. Hi, Oliver, Kate, and team. First off, I want to thank you for your podcast. I'm one of four kids in my family, and we all have very different relationships with each other, though I consider us all to be very close. I find it interesting hearing the experiences that different sets of siblings share on your show and the research slash findings that the professionals you speak with share. A lot of it is so relatable and helps me understand some of the experiences or feelings I've had with my siblings. I'm hoping I can make an episode request. Among the four of us kids, though I say that word lightly, as we are all in our late 20s, early 30s now, I am one of three that are the same age.

We are triplets. Wow. My mom called us her triplet trouble. I'd love to hear an episode on triplets, either through others' experiences as triplets or maybe research or psychology on triplets, diving into their relationship with each other and their relationships with other siblings

who aren't part of the set of three. That's an interesting... Well, we had the Property Brothers, you know, and we have had twins. Yeah. But I love that. I'll finish. But I just love the one that is not the triplet.

That's like a TV show or something. It's like you've got the triplets and then the outcast. It's not often we run into other triplets, and I'm always curious about how my experience compares to others. Why sometimes I feel so much closer to my two. two triplet brothers than I do my older sister, even though we have a lot in common, spend more time together and are very close. Most importantly, I just really wanted to thank you for doing what you're doing.

I have found it to be fascinating, relatable, and helps me reflect and better understand my relationships with my three amazing siblings. They are my whole world, and listening to your podcast has only helped me feel, help me be a better sister to them. Fondly, Katie. Oh, Katie, thank you. Definitely, we should look into interviewing a professional. about, like, twins and triplets and the psychology behind those, like, how interconnected there.

I mean, I know two sets of identical twins. It was almost like they were telepathic. They could, they, like, they, like, would feel each other if they were ever traveling when they got older. They would know, like, when someone wasn't doing well or they'd wake up and they'd have, like, almost by osmosis illnesses or not like ailments

yeah they feel their knee and their knee would hurt and they'd call their sister and be like are you okay and she'd like oh I just hurt my knee so bad like weird stuff like that I just love the left out triplet where the one that's like I don't feel anything guys and like the other two are super connected

with the one triplet sort of the out the outcast triplet it was like I don't feel you know That's got to happen, though. I'm sure. I'm sure. I mean, how about that story? Remember that that documentary about the triplets that were all adopted?

There was like a social experiment. Yes. That was so fucked up. That was a crazy documentary. Yeah. I forgot what that was called. That was a good one. That was like two years ago or last year.

Yeah, it was so sad. But it would be fun to find a set of, a set of, I think we should do it. Allison, can you find us some triplets? Oh my God. All right. Thank you, Katie. I love that. All right, I'm next. Here we go. Hey, Kate and Oliver. You got a long one. I just wanted to first say, I so love your podcast. I first found your show last April when I was packing my oldest daughter's belongings to send away to her. She had just been discharged from a short-term depression treatment center after having tried to take her life for the fifth time. I'm not going to be able to get through this.

I'm going to crying already Well I mean Jesus could you imagine I couldn't It's horrible it's just She went to live with her paternal grandparents After being discharged With my hopes That a complete change of scenery

Would bring a positive change for her It was one of the hardest decisions I've had to make Knowing that it would probably create a rift between us Which it has She has high functioning autism and had been struggling with depression and anxiety since she was around nine years old. She is now 17. When things started getting really difficult a few years back, I was faced with having to give up my beloved career as a healer and meditation teacher and instead focus on keeping my daughter alive.

After years of trying every possible therapy, medication, nutrition, both Western and Eastern, and her having to be hospitalized many times. As a single mom, I had run out of options. The chaos that her meltdowns brought on a daily basis was becoming evident in my other two children's well-being and had wrecked havoc on my health. Something needed to change. She's doing well now, although she refuses to speak to me, which I'm okay with if that's the cost of her being okay. Listening to your show has been like a treat I give myself when faced with. some task I am struggling to get through. I put on one of your shows and the world is light and bright again in doing something hard like packing my daughter's belongings and entrusting her grandparents

to carry the torch isn't so hard. In one of your email episodes, you read a letter from a woman who wrote in about her sister who struggles with mental illness and how hard it is to have that relationship be strained. Hearing that letter helped me finally cry and grieve, for the first time in a very long time. Oliver, I wanted to mention to you that my youngest Ariel also struggled with reading just like your daughter. In fact, she could not read until the third grade, despite our trying every reading program out there.

She's super smart and had already created like five different kid businesses by the time she was 10. She just couldn't get the reading part. but then one day something clicked and that was it she became a reader she's in the eighth grade now and she can hardly remember what it was like when she couldn't read i'm confident that with the help from school this woman is so nice i can't take it i know okay um no but this you know i just i just got it i can't hard to get through this There's just a sweetness, like, your soul.

Yeah, it's just, okay. She's an eighth grade now, and she can hardly remember what it was like when she couldn't read. I'm confident that with the help from school and your love and encouragement, your daughter will be plowing through books in no time. I just wanted to thank you both for being so transparent and real and fun. When I listen to your podcast, it's like I'm spending time with kindred spirits. It's funny, Kate. our sons even share the name writer thank you for all that you do to bring joy to so many with your kindness and laughter hugs to you both christine oh gosh i just i i am people i just feel like

you know when your kids struggle it's just like i can't i couldn't imagine what that must feel like And like she said, you know, all she wants is for her to be okay. And if that means that right now, they have this. It's a crazy, crazy sacrifice to make. I mean, essentially you're sacrificing the relationship with your child for their well-being. And, you know, hopefully there will be recognition of that, you know, once things settle down and hopefully they do. and, you know, once this kid comes to terms with what's been going on, there'll be a moment of thankfulness, you know.

It's like, wow, I can't believe what you did for me. But I can understand, I mean, the moment that kid is probably just like, what the fuck? I mean, what are you doing? I just think, you know, I've seen this in other children and I've known people who've had kids that were young and teenagers that are, their brains are just don't allow them to feel good, to feel like they belong. And it's just, it's like there's nothing you can do.

And I've seen parents struggle when they love them so much. They do everything they can. And you just wish you could take that away from your babies. You know, it's like you want them to feel good in their skin and they're, and you want them to feel happy. happiness. Well, Mom said this to me a long time ago, which I just always, it's ringing so true for me that you're only as happy as your most unhappy kid, you know? And when you sort of relate it to something like this, the strength that has to sort of, that she has to find is unbelievable

just to be happy. I don't, when one of my kids is even just even just, sort of not feeling great or maybe a little bit down. I feel everything that they're feeling. I know, and I know Christine, you know, she knows this. Like, she's not alone. There are so many parents who are trying to help their children and when they're suffering. And it's just, you know, there's, you know, I mean, look, it's like, I'm glad we can

give you that a respite or make you feel some joy and some light. but also know that, you know, hearing your story is, hits hard. And thank you for vetting. And thank you for giving me the Rio tip. You know, she, if you're listening to this, Christine, she has, it's crazy you said that because she did turn this small corner, you know, where all of a sudden, you know what it is, it's these sight words. And we've been doing these sight words thing with her where it's like, you know, about.

and that and could and should where she now she can see them and boom now she's flying she's getting it good so it's exciting um and you know what again it's like anything she'll read she'll be able to read what we don't need to push them to read and do math and algebra by the first grade it's like they're going to be able to do it in their own time let's not take let's take some pressure off of it Sokara Oliver, you know This is, once again, I love it There is a new thing they're doing

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fairly new listener to your podcast and became quickly obsessed love you both i just finished listening to the episode with jason and tyler ridder i do a great deal of laughing and smiling through your interviews and this wasn't so different that is until i came to jason's analogy of losing his father to a book oh i loved this analogy by the way there are no more chapters the book is complete. Listening to him talk through that analogy was profoundly impactful for me. I lost my 28-year-old son to suicide four and a half years ago and have a huge piece of my soul grieving over the things that will never be for him. But listening to Jason really opened my heart

to the possibility of my son's life being just like that. His book has been written. It's done. Focus on reading the book over and over and be grateful for all the chapters that may up his life. Thank you for doing what you do and having guests with so many different experiences to share with your audience. As Martha Stewart says, it's a good thing. Regards, Sherry. Oh, I can't take it. I know. It's... I don't know. But this is what's great about sharing your story, not only the Ritters, but, you know, even the people who are listening to you, Sherry, who just, you

know, in the short email, shared your loss of your 28-year-old son to suicide, this is what's great about this is everyone has a story to tell, and you're never alone. I mean, the relatability that can happen and the lessons that you can learn. And by the way, I am with you. When Jason said that, that was amazing. That was a totally different way to look at things. And, was almost mind-blowing in a way, you know? Yeah, it does sort of allow you to see it in a different way, sort of like, oh, you know, because you do have to live. And when you carry that sort of open-ended, you know, what Jason was saying,

it's sort of like you're always the expectation that it was supposed to be a different story, you know, and yet the story is just what the story is. It's like what our therapist would say, which is like, you know, you're not dealing with the what is. you're dealing with the expectation everything else you gotta just it just is what it is you just can't help but think you know when someone goes too soon

or someone passes or whatever it is like god damn it what would have happened what could have they been or what was their future but that's projection you know what I mean the book has ended that's the last chapter you know the thing is for me it's like

I just, this depression, it's just, I know, it's, I don't know, I wish we could, I wish we could really, really, I mean, I know we're getting better at understanding it, but I wish we could treat it better. I wish we knew how to treat people's brains in a way that they could feel hope. I just, it's again, and then it goes back down to like, you know, you look at at the world we're living in and you look at all the cruelty and all of the like, you know, there's just so many assholes. And I, we, you know, everybody laughs at people who are like, no, we should really be nice to each other. It's like, we really need to be nice to each other. Like, you know, the four agreements, right? The fourth, the fourth, be impeccable with your word

because words matter. They affect and they create energy and they, they, they, they, it matters how we, speak not only to each other to each other but about ourselves it's something that we're really struggling with as as a as a as a global society look kate i'll fucking try to do better all right i mean you don't have to yell at me i just i just want people to feel good that's all okay moving on all right you go sherry thank you for sharing that all right ready hi kate and oliver as i'm listening to the late latest email episode. I figured it was my time to reach out and let you guys know how much I genuinely enjoy this podcast. I've always been such huge fans of your family, did a biography project on Kate

in middle school. L.O.L. Oh my God. That's so funny. I know. That's so, I, that's like, I feel more honored about that than anything. And to hear you guys interact is so refreshing. I catch myself laughing out loud alone in the car, especially when you both break out and singing. Even your ads are so much more enjoyable to listen to than any other podcasts. You hear that? Ad people. I have two brothers, two step siblings, and a half-brother who I love so dearly, but this podcast and all the interviews really has inspired me to repair the strain relationship

with my mom. For the first time in many years, I feel like I have a real connection to her, and it has been such a huge relief of my anxiety. I could go on and on about my family issues, couldn't we all? But I just wanted to say that you guys really do touch lives of the people that listen to you. And it extends even beyond sibling relationships. So thank you for this joyful podcast and your realness and openness.

Openness, let me know if you ever decide to interview regular people, Scarlett. Oh, I love that. We're all regular people, except for me because I. I'm kind of baby. I love that. And reconnecting with mom, I couldn't imagine what that must feel like as a woman. And you know what's funny?

I mean, it's not funny. It's real. The female, the mother-daughter relationship is very complicated. It's a really complex relationship. So I know a lot, I have a lot of friends who have hard relationships with their moms. It's like one of those things. me that I'm so focused on like I'm not going I'm only I can't create that for Ronnie I'm just going to let her fly like you know what I mean you just got to let I just want her to feel love I want

her to be her own being in her own force and I know but but might you start off with those intentions but then shit goes crazy I'm saying like you never know like those intentions you start out then all of a sudden Ronnie's on a poll at crazy girls at 16 and you're like Get off the fucking pole. Ronnie, Danny, go. She's in Hollywood. Go get her. Oh my God.

You just never. Oh, Jesus. Oliver. You never know. Don't say that. Ronnie. Ronnie. I don't, she won't be on a poll. She's too goofy.

Yeah. Yeah. She won't be on. I don't think she'll be on. She's too. Rio. Rio. Rio.

Rio. Rio. Rio. My daughter. It will be. be on the pole. I mean, I know. Well, I love being on the pole. Let's be honest. You have a pole. I have a pole in your bathroom. By the way, I believe that as Factor, Sheila, she's got actually, she has a great documentary out right now on Netflix about what she does, which is all about women connecting to this energy that for somehow has been exploited and, you know, kind of, um, made for like, you know, men or to be, you know, to be exploited.

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She's like, I can't let Kate cry again. She's like sad, so we don't need to do this. Okay, hi, Kate and Oliver. My name is Amy, and I love your podcast. I laugh all the time. And at times your podcast brings me to tears. I was adopted as a baby. Oh, boy, there we go.

Here we go. I'm crying. I'm like Paula Abdul on America. An idol. Just cry all the time. Okay. My adopted father passed away when I was four years old, and my adopted mom raised me as a single parent. She was beyond amazing and loved me with all of her heart. I had four older siblings that were already out of the house when I was growing up. I got along with two out of the four. My mom passed away in 2009, and the two brothers that I was closest to helped me get through my grief. Two years ago, they both passed away within six months of each other. I wasn't close to the other two siblings, and I felt so lost. Listening to your podcast reminds me of the relationships that I had with my two brothers, and it makes me smile. I recently got on 23 and me to see if I had any blood relatives. I found cousins who live in the same city, and we've connected, and it's been so magical and

special. They don't take the place of my two brothers, but the connection feels the same. I can't help but think that my mom and brothers had something to do with that introduction. Family looks different and feels different for every person. Thank you so much for showing up for us every week and being authentic and open and honest, Amy. It's happy. It is happy. It is. It's so happy.

But, you know, I'm crying happy tears because. It shows that how resilient, you know, it's like you go from like the fragility of this sort of like what we're talking about, hopelessness to we have the capacity to be resilient. It's in there. And I guess I just cry because I love people so much. You know, I know. And you're crying because, I mean, Amy, like, you know, lost her dad, then her mom, then two brothers within six months. It's like, what the fuck? It's like, God, when it rains, it pours.

Like, really? I know. But also it also says, like, you know, I say this all the time. Like the missing piece to wellness is faith. And I know people like want to separate that because religion or whatever. But honestly, you know, I look at faith should be a part of everybody's wellness. However you find it, it brings us this sort of sense of feeling safe. Like the fact that she can really connect and know that deep down that her mom and her brothers had something to do with it,

that belief, that faith is bringing her so much. And it's so important. It's so important that we connect to something bigger than us and that we know we're all interconnected. You know, whether that's through prayer, whether that's through a God or multiple gods or nature, whatever it is. It's like. I got to start meditating again. It's so hard to fucking do it. It's so easy and so hard.

I put it off so much. Why don't you just pray? Why don't you just start praying? What do you mean praying? Like, you... I don't like to pray. I'm not a prayer. Well, maybe you should try it.

I don't, who am I praying to? You know, the only person I talk, the only people I talk to are, I talk to grandma. But like, pray to, like, yeah, pray to grandma. Pray to whoever. Well, I don't pray. I'll talk to grandma. I'll be like, Graham, like, keep me safe. All right.

That's a prayer. That's a prayer. Yeah. Thank you, Amy. Hi, Kate and Oliver. Greetings from Indiana. I've always been a runner. Therefore, I steered away from podcasts for the longest time.

Running was my time to escape. However, I recently came across sibling revelry and really enjoyed it. Keep up the good work. I am 24 weeks pregnant. It's my first pregnancy for my husband and me. While we are ecstatic, it has been tough. Don't get me wrong. I'm very fortunate and grateful compared to others really struggling. However, I'm dealing with migraines and nausea. I even had a short hospital stint for dehydration weeks ago.

Running is currently harder for me because of these things during my pregnancy, so I started to walk. Your podcast is something I listen to as I exercise. It's become that escape for me from the world as I also deal with the anxiety. A lot of that anxiety is stem from my first pregnancy during a pandemic. I'd appreciate any tips you have to relax as well. Though my story isn't a heartbreaking one, I want you to know you help me with my struggles every week as a way to get away from the news of the pandemic for some relaxation. I'm sure it's difficult to post every week. Just know your listeners look forward to each episode and appreciate it in our own little ways.

I'm going to let you answer. I hope you are both safe and healthy. I wish you the best for 2021. By the way, I'm the baby of my family, two other siblings. Are you able to tell by my email? Ha. I will continue to tune in even as I start to run again, Betsy. Aw.

I'm going to let you answer this because you have first-hand experience with these things. But I just, just reading these emails, it's so great because you realize that people, are really listening. I know that's sort of crazy to say, but the stupid shit that I feel like I say or that we do actually resonates with some people. It's surprising. Ollie, you're not giving yourself enough credit. Come on. It's fulfilling. It's really fulfilling. You know, I mean, oh, God, it just feels good. It feels good. If we're going to get out there and talk about anything, it's important to me that we're talking about things that could make people hopefully feel good or connect and yeah like we're stupid and we sing and we do all this stuff but at the same

time we're really curious and we like to find out about you know what makes people tick and what makes people happy and where they come from and share those things with others i mean we can i can i change something because no one says this what if we changed it to like what makes people instead of tick what makes people talk you know what i mean like everyone because tick talk it's like there's a The tick is the first part, but you can't have the tick without the talk. You know what I mean? Right, right. Maybe you should get on TikTok, and then you'll find out.

Okay, let's get back to Betsy. Why don't we answer this question? Because she did ask a question. Oh. She just was asking for some advice, you know, about anxiety. It stemmed from her first pregnancy with this pandemic going on. Any tips on how to relax? And I'm sure you could help her out with this.

since you've had three children. Have I ever? Okay, so here's what I would say about relaxing while pregnant. It took me, I have very different pregnancies. So, you know, your state of mind is a, is, they say it's a choice, but when you're pregnant, it doesn't feel that way. It feels like it's like your hormones kind of rule the day. and at least for me and obviously this is just my experience and I I always hate when people

offer their because pregnancies are so different like sure but this is you this is your personal experience is not saying that this is the way it goes for me with my pregnancy with Ronnie I made a very clear decision to to just relax meaning like I wasn't going to over-exert myself I wasn't going to pretend like I was going to do a million things when I really just needed to put my feet up. I took care of myself and I made it about Ronnie. And what I mean by that is, is that I kind of envision myself as the, you know, we are just this vessel.

And I was similar with Ryder. Funny enough with Bing, it was a very different pregnancy. But I just, it's like I just kept imagining being a vessel for life. So much so that it was. It was the first time of all my pregnancies that I thought, isn't it weird that there's like a human inside of me? Like I didn't think that was right or I didn't think that with Bing. But with Ronnie, I was like, it's like a person.

It's like a, there's like a being in here. It's so alien and crazy because I was so connected to her more than even what my needs were. It was all about in my mind, it was like, whatever I'm feeling is what's in her best interest, This is what she needs. And so I was able to kind of tune in and listen to myself, I think, a little bit more, it was just a little bit more heightened because I made it, I made a point to do it. And it was also the first time I did yoga. I did prenatal or I did what do you call it?

prenatal yoga yeah prenatal oh in utero yoga I did yoga pregnant and I and I um and it was really amazing because I would have these like very connected experiences I listened to my body if my body didn't want to be strong that day it was I would be really like mellow and then after each class, I'd sort of just like tune in to Ronnie. I just, I just did everything I could to chill out. If my feet felt thing, I put my feet up and I used the excuse of I am pregnant and I'm not doing anything I don't want to be doing. So that is, and then there's like some specific things.

Yes, like yoga, I would get body pillows. So I had a big body pillow. I would get certain kinds of essential oils that actually made me feel relaxed that weren't labor-inducing. I had these amazing sort of weighted. There's sort of these weighted pouches, almost like eye pouches. You can put them on your eyes, but they're meant to be put on different points on your your body and they can they relax your central nervous system so maybe you could look into something like that anything that relaxes your your nervous system is great and um i'll say one thing i'll say

one thing you know this is just from the anxiety standpoint because i've experienced anxiety and i still do now and again but i've had major anxiety there are things you can and can't control right so the things that you cannot control sometimes we sometimes we focus too much on those things and it causes us some consternation and anxiety we should focus on what we can control the pandemic there's not much we can do about it

except be safe so as long as we're being safe and we're living our lives I think it's sometimes it's easy to it's easier just to let go of certain things it's like what Kate says you know we're in control we make choices I would just say to let go. Ollie, I think that was great advice.

I don't. Can we cut that? Anyway, thank you. All right. Well, these were really, really great emails this time and very emotional. And thank you guys for reaching out. And please keep reaching out. We love hearing from you.

It's so nice to really. honestly get to know our listeners and I think that I think it was it Stephanie you say let me know if you ever decide to interview regular people and one of the things Oliver and I were thinking about doing at some point was taking it on the road and actually we do want to interview people that aren't necessarily famous but but we want to get out and get more personal with you guys that's right so that would be great so that's something we we want to do and um so so anybody who's emailed in we will let you know uh when when that day comes when we would are doing live shows and then maybe ollie and i will will do a little song and dance oh we've got

a whole plan we got a variety show plan oh yeah yeah of course we can bring on a henson to do some puppeteering. Yeah. I love it. Be sure to email us because we love hearing from you at sibling submissions at gmail.com. Sibling submissions at gmail.com. Hit us up, hit us up. We need all your stories.

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