Sidebar: A Suits Watch Podcast - In Chambers with Patrick & Sarah

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

This week, the listeners are on the docket! That's right - we are in chambers with Patrick and Sarah, and they are answering your questions. They share where you can get Sidebar merch (siriusxmstore.com/sidebar), hint at when we may be getting info on the can-opener, discuss character theme songs, hear from Patrick's Brazilian dub artist Airam, talk about Harvey's basketballs,  get to the bottom on how Mike wears his watch, and more.  Check out Airam's work dubbing Patrick here - https://www.instagram.com/p/C6WnOmwrQnX/?hl=en Email us a voice memo of your questions about Suits at [e-mail]. We may use it on the show!Follow us on Instagram & TikTok - @suitssidebarGet access to all the podcasts you love, music channels and radio shows with the SiriusXM App! Get 3 months free using this show link: https://siriusxm.com/sidebar

Music Hi everyone. Welcome to Sidebar. It's a Suits Watch podcast. My name is Patrick Adams. And my name is Sarah Rafferty and we were on Suits, but we never really watched it. And this week we are answering your questions. We're going to take a pause from watching the show and try and catch up on our mailbag and go through

and answer some of your fantastic questions that we've been getting. But first. How are you? How are you, Patrick? I'm doing pretty good. Pretty good. Feeling positive.

I'm excited to almost be home. Yeah. Are you smelling the barn, so to speak, at the end of your Smelling the barn? Yeah. You know, the horses start to gallop a pace when they smell the barn. You have so many sayings that I have never and smelling the barn. Gilding the Lily. I love that one. That one I knew.

Right at him Bushy Tailed everybody. I don't know what it means, but I think yes, I'm smelling the barn and it's close. Yeah. Or maybe in a more filmic way, we're on the Abbey. We're close. Listener, when you say it, when you're on a film set and you are on the Abbey, it means you're on the second last shot of the night. But do we know the genesis of on the Abbey? What does that mean? Yes.

Please tell me. It's from a first AD named Abby Singer, who was famous for creating, he did something to do with organizing the end of the night. So when you were on the second to last shot, he would begin the scheduling process for the next day or something. So they named the second to last shot after him.

They call the, and then there's the window and there's the martini. So how does this work? The window and the martini are the same thing. Which is? The martini in America, the window in Canada. Oh. The martini is the last shot of the night.

And what's the window? The last shot of the night. And why? Why is it the window? They have two different names because you're in Canada or the US. No, I got that part. I understand the Canada and the US are different, but what is window, the gen it the window? They have two different names because you're in Canada or the US. No, I got that part. I understand the Canada and the US are different,

but what is window, the genesis of window? I don't know the genesis of window. I never understood it. I guess it's like you're going through the window. It's the last shot of the night. I don't know. I never understood that. But you're my genius bar.

You're supposed to know all the things whenever I ask them. I just always called it the martini. I didn't agree with the window. Oh, really? Well, I've just, I'm a mark. I just, I knew it as the martini. So when people said window, I just filed it under strange things that Canadians do. Do you think Canadians do strange things?

Can you, can you name any more? And I'm a Canadian. I'm allowed to say that we put, we put milk in bags. I don't sign off on it. I'll accept it, but I don't, I don't need to buy my milk in bags either. I've just completely alienated our entire Canadian audience. I don't sign off on it. I'll accept it, but I don't need to buy my milk in bags either. I've just completely alienated our entire Canadian audience. No, I mean, milk kind of comes in a bag. Originally, like we get it out of a bag, the udder. I mean, it kind of works poetically.

I think visually poetically. I've never heard that as a defense for Canadian bagged milk. I appreciate it. I never knew I would be defending Canadian bagged milk. No need to defend it. Do you want to hear something fun that happened to me this week that's never happened to me before? Tell me. Yeah. I sat on the floor at a basketball game. My friend Jay got tickets and- Jay Z? Yeah, my friend Jay Z. Yeah. No, my friend Jay got tickets last minute and was like,

guys, let's go. And it was so fun. The theater of it all. It's fun, right? Like right there. Like I kept having to sort of shift to watch because the coach was right in front of me and, and Jay was like, look, he's like in his back pocket. Like we can read like what the lineup is. Is that what you call it?

I don't even know. But the best thing happened to me. Are you ready? What? I'm so excited to tell you. I have to whisper it. It was so fun to watch. It was so amazing to be that close to people who are so in the zone of what they do so well. Like just the energy of that. But on two different occasions, players walked up to me and they were just like, love the show. That might not be exactly what they said.

Which, what were the names of the players? Um, Hans? Hans? What team were they on? Hang on, I took pictures. Yeah, they were on the Miami, they were on the Miami Magic. They were on the Miami Magic. The Miami Heat? They looked like they could be my sons. Orlando Magic or Miami Heat? They were on the Miami Magic. The Miami Heat? They looked like they could be my sons. Orlando Magic or Miami Heat?

They were on a Miami. Couple of sports people figuring it out. There was magic somewhere in this. The Orlando Magic, is that right? I don't want to ask me if it's right. You figure that out. Listen to me getting sassy. I have a picture of them.

They were brothers. The Wagner. Wagner. Two, two brothers are on the same team. And clearly, because Jay was sitting next to me when it happened, because I was like, did that just happen? He was like, that happened. That actually happened.

And, um, and he was like, maybe they watch it together. Like, on the airplane or whatever. So isn't that fun? Like when you're watching somebody but they saw our show, you know, like those fun experiences in the world of like, wait, you watched it? You watched the show? I've had it happen, it's particularly strange

when it happens in a sports environment because in case you haven't noticed, listener, we're not the most sports- I love sports. We love them, but we don't actually know really what's going on. I know Hans Wagner. We don't know the player. Let's not mince words here. You didn't even know the name of the team that they were on. So when it happens in that environment, it's particularly jarring because it's like, I feel like I should know more about what's happening here. I too have sat on the floor a couple of times and it is

so amazing to watch that happen up close. Oh my god, it's incredible. And it makes me, I didn't understand how big everyone is and then you're down there and you're like, these people are enormous. Crazy. Let's dive into this enormous mailbag. You guys have been sending us your questions. Thank you so much. It's so great to hear from you guys and please, please keep sending them. We're going to start with just a general feedback because we've had so many questions about. Merch. Yeah, Merch. Merch. I love Merch.

When we will have it and where you can get it. Do you want to give us an answer on that about Merch, Sarah? OK, so we do have Merch. We have t-shirts and we have hats and we have hoodies. And you can go to SiriusXMstore.com slash sidebar. I mean, that's all the information you need. That's all the answer you need right there.

So we hear from Kristin that we're getting tons of questions about the can opener, right, Patrick? We get I would say it is the number one question we get, is people wanting to get to the bottom of the can opener. And we love it and we appreciate it. And we appreciate it so much that we want to make sure you get a good answer. And to get a good answer you need to get it from the source. And to get it from the source, you have to talk to Aaron Korsch, who was our fearless leader and the creator of Suits. And we had a chance to talk to Erin about it when we did a panel at this year's Austin

Television Festival. And we recorded that. So hopefully very, very soon we will be able to record the audio from that and you will be able to hear it from the horse's mouth. The truth about the can opener. You'll be able to smell it from the barn. You get to go to the barn and smell the horse. I think you're making sayings up now.

I'm gonna. We have a question from Eric. I have thoroughly enjoyed the first two podcasts as I did every episode of Suits. Thanks, Eric. My question concerns Lewis. Correct me if I'm wrong, but how is it that not once did anyone refer to him

as the Litigator? Perhaps this could be the name of a spin-off series PS Ross examines is epic. The Litigator, why? You are right, Eric. That is a missed opportunity. Oh, wow, on Earth. We're gonna make a note and ask Erin about that.

That's good. Did we miss that? The litigator. We're gonna work it into the podcast moving forward, so thank you so much for that. Do you remember what Ross Examines is, Sarah? I wanted to talk to you about Ross Examines. Eric, I agree, Ross Examines is epic. Patrick came up with it.

I know in our little video, when we were doing a silly little video, I was kind of pretending a little bit that I was Donna and I was looking, I was looking askance at Ross Examines, but I love Ross Examines. I laughed at it as like the Donna, but I loved it. It was great. Ross Examines. I think it was Ross Examined. Oh, Ross Examined. Just to make sure that my pitch is for the title. They were all really strong.

The show is really clear. Patrick, to be clear, they were all very strong pitches. I was just pretending to laugh at them. I really appreciate that. Thank you. I feel seen. Thank you, Eric, for your question. Okay, we have an audio clip of another question. Let's hear it.

This is Barrett from Austin, Texas, and I'm watching Suits for the first time with my wife and kids. We're at the very beginning of season six. We are absolutely loving it. I love listening to your guys podcast. My question is, have you guys noticed that there is at least one point in every single Suits episode where someone says very dramatically, every single Suits episode where someone says very dramatically, what are you talking about?

That phrase just comes up every episode and whenever it happens, my whole family cheers. And so I'm wondering if that's something that you guys have noticed. And if so, was there ever a point in filming where, or production, when you guys found out who got to be the, what are you talking about person? Was that a point of pride or is it something that you guys have even noticed? So again, love the show, love the podcast,

love you guys, keep doing what you're doing. Thank you, Barrett. Great observation. Barrett, thank you so much for this. I feel so seen and known right now, Barrett. I can't tell you how much joy you are giving me because you're saying that you guys cheer when you hear it. Truth is, I was somebody who said that a lot. What are you talking about? What are you talking

about? What are you talking about? Wow, wow, you know what? I didn't know who had said it a lot until you just said it. Are you kidding? And then I was like taken back there. Yeah, are you kidding? You just just messing. No, seriously, you literally just said, you just said what you talked. I was like, I don't remember you having to say it and then you said it. And then I was like, oh my God, I've heard that a million times.

And so this was such a great reframe and thank you so much. It's so great to hear from you. First of all, I'm so thrilled that you're watching this with your whole family. That just makes my heart wanna sing. I know for me, my journey was saying it through nine seasons was that I was saying it so much that I became self-conscious about it.

So I'm so thrilled to now have it completely reframed by you in my brain that it's something to be celebrated. It is. Can you say it one more time, please? What are you talking about? Can you say it for me? What are you talking about? Can you give me three?

What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? What are you talking? What are you talking about? There we go. What are you talking about? Barrett, thank you so much for that observation. We should start counting it. It's not something I noticed But I'd love for us to start figuring out where it is at every episode While you were playing Mike Ross, you didn't realize it? You didn't have to say it. It's not surprising to me that we say it a lot, but it didn't jump out at me as the moment of each episode.

So now I'm going to be on the lookout for it. There's some other phrases that other listeners have been asking us about. Oh, these are good. We're done. We're done. We're done. What did you just say to me? That was another one. Shit the bed.

Lisa pointed out, shit the bed gets said a lot. Jill pointed out, how dare you. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait for this. Imogen and her partner Max and Sydney say, slam every time someone slams a folder on the desk. That's good. That's so good. Slam.

I think we're going to need some folder merch. Can we just partner up with Staples and get some office supply merch for our sidebar podcast? Sidebar branded folders. There's the gray folders and there's the blue folders. And the manila. You had manila? I rarely had manila.

Only one time do I remember manila. But now I want a Manila wafer. Is that what it's called? Guys, let's all take a break so Sarah can have her Manila wafer. Guys, let's just smell the barn. Why don't we get into some specific episode feedback? Regarding the poker chip count, as you might recall, I had some thoughts about the poker chip account in the pilot episode of suits

Carol from Baltimore says I love the show in the pod I thought it was cool how it was pointed out that the poker chips didn't make sense or didn't equal to the bet Good catch on the details also Tom from the UK pointed that out. Thank you. I appreciate that ever since I brought that up I wondered if this is the sort of content that suits fans need. I'm happy to hear that some people appreciated it. Great. Thank you guys. Thanks. Thanks so much, Tom and Carol. Okay. And now regarding the Fast Times at Ridgemont High quote in errors and admissions, we had many, many, many, many, many people write in to say that they did get the Fast Times quote. in to say that they did get the Fast Times quote. I think if you remember I admitted in a vulnerable state that I think at the time I wasn't as familiar

with Fast Times at Ridgemont High as I should be. It's a classic film, an important film, and so I felt I was worried that like most people wouldn't know because we only live our lives through our own lived experience that somehow me not knowing what it was meant that other people wouldn't know because we only live our lives through our own lived experience that somehow me not knowing what it was meant that other people wouldn't know. I couldn't have been more wrong. Everybody knows. I think it's generational a little bit too.

Yeah, that's true. You were pretty young when that movie came out. I also had a vulnerable moment when we were talking about it because I admitted that I felt a little uncomfortable when Mike was talking to Harvey about something about times with Mr. Hand, our time with Mr. Hand. It was vulnerable all around. But you did know the quote, remember? Was that right?

No, I had to Google it. I did not. I did. Or no, I had to have the next moment where somebody says Spicoli to help me to understand it. And I thought it was cool that we were on a show that would take its time and let us kind of live in the mystery for a minute or two there with an awkward moment that I really appreciated. So thank you to everybody who wrote in and said they did get the Fast Times quote.

We really appreciate that. Regarding character theme songs, we got some emails from Cathy. Cathy has been sending us a lot of very kind emails. Thank you, Kathy, for supporting the podcast and the show. She says, I'm listening to the podcast and on bailout, you asked listeners to send our suggested intro songs for the characters. And a few came to mind instantly.

Oh, that's cool. She has some great ones here. Harvey, simply irresistible. Let it rock. Love is mystical. Love is mystical in the let it rock, love is mystical. Love is mysticals in the show. We use love as mystical, I think. Oh, okay. Yeah. There we go.

We're already on top of it. Good call, Kathy. Donna is hell on wheels, the pistol Annie's, and- Hell on heels. Oh my God. By the pistol grannies. By the pistol grannies. By the pistol grannies. The glasses on your face are working?

No, there's a weird, see this light up here over me? It's causing this weird thing on my screen. But can you actually see the glasses on my face I thought they were so like barely visible no they're they're pretty those are pretty visible are you saying their statement glasses they're great they look great good there's my sexy granny glasses the pistol grannies anyway back to Donna so it's hell on heels by the pistol Annie's and sexy and I know it you can sing that one for me can't you Pistol grannies. Anyway, back to Donna. So it's Hell on Heels by the Pistol Annies and Sexy. And I know it.

You can sing that one for me, can't you? If I sing, but I don't, I gave it up. I gave that up. When? When did you give it up? When I turned 40. Who hurt you? Who hurt you?

You don't have the time. So for Mike, it is Dirty Deeds and Blurred Lines. Do you know Dirty Deeds? Dirty Deeds, I don't know. My music literacy is really coming into question. Blurred Lines is Robin Thicke, right? Yeah. Yeah.

So what's Dirty Deeds? I don't know what Dirty Deeds is. Anybody here have a Dirty Deeds? Kristen, are you there? It's ACDC? Yes. Oh, yeah. Yes. Of course. I'm just not good with song names. Yeah, yeah.

Yes. Of course. I'm just not good with song names. Yeah, that's great. Hell yeah. Thank you so much for your note, Kathy. We appreciate it. This is so nice.

This really means a lot to us to be able to hear from everybody. Thank you for these. From Neil, we have, hi, Sarah and Patrick. When I was first offered the job of a continuity background performer on a new show called Suits, I hesitated. I didn't know if I wanted such a large commitment as I was also an auditioning actor. Ultimately, I said yes, and nine seasons later later it turned out to be one of the best experiences of my life. Getting to watch great actors like you ply their trade every day was the greatest education I could have asked for. I'm now proud to call myself a working actor and

I owe much of that to what I learned and stole from you. Thank you and the best of luck with the podcast I'll be listening. Love Neil. So great. Neil, congratulations. Brought tears to my eyes. We were so lucky to have all of our background actors were just incredible. It's so fun to watch the show and because it's a law firm, people were with us right from the beginning like Neil. Neil, I want to say to you the energy that you brought every day on set and like your smile. I can see it now in my mind's eye and it just meant so much during all these nine seasons and I never ever am gonna forget that day on location on our last episode, the location of the wedding. Just that that was the that was the episode where we said goodbye and got to take the

pictures and the cards that you guys gave to us. It just meant the world. It just really did. I'm so thrilled that you are a working actor and that everything is going well and it means so much to hear from you. So thank you. Thanks, Neil. We love you. Hi there. My name is Adam Pinheiro. I'm a I mean, typically I do my own Brazilian Portuguese dubbing, but I'm happy to hear that somebody else is out there, and I'm sure it's better than my own.

We have... I have a video. I couldn't find an exact one, but he did a dub of your Civil War Instagram post. That is really funny. Should we hear it? Like when the character Jesse... It's got some grizzle to it. ...is revealing the negatives and leaves it in the can for 10 minutes, I think. And without editing, right? I appreciate you making me sound better than I actually do.

Let's keep going. We have an audio clip from Elaine. Hello, Sarah and Patrick. My name is Elaine and I just wanted to say that now thanks to Cyborg, Tuesday has become my favorite day of the week. The question that I'm going to pose today is for the both of you. As you know, in suits, almost every character has a special talent or superpower. Mike's obvious one is his

photographic memory and throughout the series we uncovered Donna's to be how intuitive she is, her empathy and even her heart. My question to you is, what do you think is each other's most prominent talent or superpower? It could be something pragmatic like Mike's, or it could be something more personality driven like Donna's. Wow. I love that question. I'll start. You ready? Go. Patrick, I think you have so many superpowers.

Um, like, the umbrella of it all is that you're a tremendously creative person. That you live your life constantly in a creative mode. Like, you create moments, you create memories, you create experiences, you create things, you create photographs, you create spaces, you create a family, you create the most beautiful group of friends, and you make me feel really safe. Yeah, since the beginning.

I remember when you created this event for all of us to come up and be in the country, to be at the lake house, to be at the cottage with you, so that we could all create together in a new way. We could cook and play games and enjoy our children and play music and be. And that was so, so great. I say of this podcast that like you invited me to do it and it was just such an easy, yeah, yeah, of course.

We're gonna go on an adventure. It's like getting in your Sprinter van. i would drive across the country with you of course like oh i'm gonna make you do that now it doesn't have to be planned it's just like it's gonna be wondrous like your superpower superpower being let's go. Let's go. Vamos. Let's go. I love you.

Thank you so much. Your superpower is X-ray vision. Next question. Your superpower, of which you have also so many, too many, it's hard to put, to find a point on it. It's something to do with your role as mother, but not just mother to your two beautiful girls, which is an unbelievable thing to watch you do and to see the women that they are becoming in the world. But that thing that you do for us all that you did on set, you do for me, you've got like mama energy, and you take such good care of people,

and you see people when they need help, and you know kind of exactly how to lock in. A lot of people run from the fire, you know, when people are in distress or don't, or having big feelings or don't know how to make it through something, a lot of people kind of walk away because they don't know how to handle that stuff,, a lot of people kind of walk away because they don't know how to handle that stuff and you lean in and you grab the hand and you find the eyes and I don't know if you realize how important that is and how valuable it

is to those of us who love you and are loved by you. Whoa, this question took us there. I need a minute. I'm so glad that's recorded so I can play it when I'm down. Good question. Wow. Thank you. This is a new podcast. We're on a new podcast. Thank you, Patrick. That means the world to me.

When you said it had to do with mother, I immediately like my eyes just went, thank anyway thank you for that question we have a question from Lucy hi I am incredibly obsessed with suits and love you both so much the show is a huge inspiration for me I've watched all the bloopers and I wanted to know where the whole fake punching thing came from it makes me laugh every time how everyone's in on it came from Gabriel Came from Gabriel. It was Gabriel loved doing that. He loved it. He just, day one, he liked throwing fake punches and then we all just started rolling with it. And I think it was so great, you know, sometimes you just, you just have to get playful,

even if the scene's really heavy. Yeah, absolutely. And I do love it on the blooper reels. And then there's the one time when Gabriel actually smacked Rick across the face. Do you remember that? That is a winner. I do remember that. For those of you who haven't seen it, you want to get on YouTube.

Okay, so this is from Marie. I'm a huge, there's a lot of yous here, fan from France. Thank you for that. I'm so happy I can have a rewatch with you guys. It's delightful. So in French, as I'm sure you know, we have to, which is casual, and we have vu, which is formal. In the French subtitles at the beginning of the show, vu is used between Harvey and Donna,

and it felt strange for me. Do you think this is accurate or awkward? Thank you guys. Love you to death. Lots of hearts. This is deep cut. Oh my gosh. Thank you guys. Love you to death. Lots of hearts. This is deep cut. Oh my gosh. This is amazing. And I was just thinking about this last night.

And we've been talking about this a lot because we just talked about a scene where, you know, we're still in the first season. I think it's episode seven where Donna, first she calls him a wuss and then she shushes him. And I remember going, wow, their intimacy is so far beyond boss employee.

Like there is no boss employee thing there. And I thought that was such a huge clue for me into them. So I love this. I wonder when exactly that shift is in the subtitles because what's brilliant about it is if you think about it, we kind of learned as we went along that they had intimacy and then obviously we learned in a flashback in season two how close they were originally.

So in a way using the voo is a great way to not let the cat out of the bag. I think that's so fascinating and I actually cannot wait to share this with my daughters who both are taking French and my 17-year-old who's speaking French a lot. And we also talk about how it's a gendered language and how interesting that is too. But I love etymology. I love talking about words. I love the sounds of words. I love the vowels in words I love everything about words. So this question was so up my alley. Thank you Marie. This is fascinating So we have a audio clip from Nika

Hi, Sarah and Patrick. My name is Nika. I'm from Berlin, Germany and My question I don't really know if it counts as a question But I've personally always thought that the characters on Suits, even though none of them are ever confirmed to be anything other than straight, that they are all very queer coded, especially Harvey and Donna. Harvey made a comment once about trying to sleep with a guy and Donna just kind of the way she is, and especially in season nine with Samantha and I don't know when this is going to be played or if Samantha has ever even been brought

up yet but yeah just also in general the way she is and yeah I wanted to ask what you think about that if you have like any headcanons for characters or any like characters you think might be gay even though it wasn't confirmed ever and there's like only one gay character on the entire show Edward Darby and yeah I love you guys so much I love this podcast it's very comforting to me to listen to because the show has meant a lot to me throughout my life and it still does so. Love you guys. Oh, that's lovely. I love you. We love you too, Nika. That's so sweet of you. She's also written this. She said, this is my question to whoever reads this,

even if you don't use the question, can you please let Sarah know that she was my gay awakening and tell her that I say thank you? What an honor. This is such a great question. I love getting this question. And I actually would love to spend more time on it in future podcasts moving forward. First of all, about this comment, this very generous comment about gay awakening, I'm honored that you shared that with me. I think obviously, you know, you didn't necessarily need Donna to awaken to yourself.

I think maybe she was there at the right time for you. And for me, having been the person who played Donna, it's an honor to accompany you on your journey in any way. So thank you for sharing that with me. I think about your question about the characters being queer coded and that none of them were out, I do think it's a really important observation about the show, a really legitimate observation about the show. And, you know, I think what's really important about being a part of storytelling

and living our lives, telling stories, we do our best to play a character, to play truths about the characters. They're always changing, especially when you're playing one character for nine years, you learn things that you didn't know about their past as the character is developed and all those kinds of things. And what's most important is that piece of what the audience gets from it. So we put it out, we do our best with it, but the magic happens when the product is received.

And that's really the important part, is what the meaning is to the audience. And that's going to be different from person to person. And so it's just from an energetic place, it's just, frankly, an honor to be an actor who's a part of a thing that meant something to someone. That is a privilege that we get to companion you in your life in some way that's meaningful to you. So I love getting this question from you. I love getting this comment from you.

And I appreciate it so much. And I think what's key about the characters and the queer coding, what we respond to is stories of love, stories of loyalty, stories of deep, profound friendship, stories of connection. So however we want to read what that means, that's for us to do. And yeah, what do you have to say, Patrick? I mean, I can't improve on what you just said. It was beautiful. I think you put it perfectly, honestly.

I love what you said about companionship to anybody because I think any great piece of work ends up walking hand in hand with other people's experience, even if you're not dealing with the issue directly. So a question like this and an answer like yours is a perfect example of how you never know what's gonna speak to people and what's gonna help them in their own lives with what they're dealing with and it's not something I would have like like what

you've brought up here Nika is not something I actually would have thought about in our show but the reality that it's had that effect in your life and it's something that you've thought about, it's a perfect example of like, you never know. You never know what you're doing and how other people are gonna relate to it, so. And it's just an honor and a privilege to be part of it. Yeah. Yep.

Thank you for this. We have some real life lawyer feedback from Jessica Esquire regarding Dirty Little Secrets. Hi, I'm a real life attorney who loves suits. Got into it because of a TikTok clip and then Netflix. I've already watched the series twice. I love this episode because I do a lot of real estate and business law representing a lot of family businesses and tenants. You asked about settling class action items.

I don't have experience with class actions, but in the research I have done in derivative cases, I'm really having to pull out my microskills here, which can have similar rules. Real class actions do require court approval. I don't know anything at the moment of why a plaintiff class can't agree to purchase stock in the entity. It's a creative solution to settlement.

It probably wouldn't work for class actions that just want money, but in this episode, it made sense for the plaintiffs to buy into the company and help it succeed. Succeed, wow, I'm out of practice being Mike Ross. That's referring to the episode where I think the solution at the end was to allow the people who had been harmed by the pharmaceutical company to end up owning stock in the pharmaceutical company in order to, instead of going after a class action lawsuit. I think I have that right, if memory serves.

I so appreciate that Jessica sent this to us because we were noodling about it. We were like, we loved it when we watched the episode, but we did just have some questions about it. So this makes me feel good. I love that it's like the hopeful version that we wanted, which is like, it is a creative solution to a settlement, but that maybe it could work. Like, I like that. I like it living in that space.

Thank you so much for getting back to us on that, Jessica. That's so generous of you. I love that it's Jessica Esquire too. I know. I know. I love, this is exactly what I dreamed of. Can I just pause for a second? Talking to fans? Yeah. Like that it's a conversation, that, you know, it's a dialogue. You don't have to talk to me for once. What. You don't have to talk to me for once. What? You don't have to talk to me for once.

I can never get enough talking to you. Remember, I just said I would drive across the country with you and Troy and the kids and the dogs and my kids and my dogs and my husband. Let me tell you as somebody who's driven across the country twice with Troy and the kids in the van and I love it in my own way, you do not want to be a part of that trip. First of all, there's nowhere for you to sit so you're in the bed. the van and I love it in my own way. You do, you do not want to be a part of that trip. First of all, there's nowhere for you to sit. So you're in the bed.

Now you and I, maybe we do a road trip. We take this podcast on the road. We drive around. That's a different thing. Um, we have a question from Lisa or not a question really, but a comment. I'm a paralegal and this is the first show that's actually explored how important a paralegal is this is the first show that's actually explored how important a paralegal is in a large firm and it made me so happy to see Rachel recognized and valued for her skillset.

Love the pod and I'm rewatching right along with you guys. You're both awesome, thank you Lisa. That's good to know. Lisa, this is magic. People feeling seen, that is a service. Oh my God, I love it, I love it. You love to see people, you love to be seen. I love them to be seen.

So we have a question about food from Debbie. If I ever go to New York, I'm planning a trip in the next few years. Should I get a hot dog from a stand? Ooh, great question. That is a really important question. Where do you stand? Listen, when you go to a foreign country,

yeah, you get the street food, you do. I think you should pack some antibiotics. Yeah, it's a hard no for me. Do not get the hot dog in New York. Sorry. I don't mean to offend hot dogs in New York, but they're terrible. I think when you go to a place though, you do the thing. Like we were in Amsterdam and I don't eat meat.

I don't eat red meat, but there are these balls, these like meat type balls. And I remember we were sitting and we were sitting on our first night. We were getting a drink at a bar and a snack. I was like, this is a thing in the Netherlands. Like this is what you eat in Amsterdam. We ordered the thing from the bartender. He delivered it.

And then Iris and I both said like, but what's in here in this meatball looking thing? And he was like, you don't wanna know. We did eat them and they were delicious. But I think, you know, when you travel, you do these things. But I don't know, at your own risk. For some reason, I think of traveling in Amsterdam and eating a piece of street food as like a culturally significant moment.

I think eating a hot dog from a stand in New York has no cultural significance whatsoever It's just a total lack I think they're just like genuinely not good and it's not good meat and it and you're probably not going to be made sick By it, but it's not it doesn't even taste good Like you have to if thing has to taste good for you to take the risk and the hot dogs in New York now I say this as a Canadian and the best hot dogs I've ever had on the street are in Toronto. So I'm like spoiled.

Well this is what's coloring this though, right? But it's good because you know you get the like the, you get sausages. Yeah. They're like Polish sausages in New York. They're all just in that water. They just sit in that water, that hot water all day. And they're just like, very basic hot water. They're just not good.

So my vote is 100% don't do it. Go have a cultural experience somewhere else in New York. There's plenty that we had. The hot dog stands not to do it. What do you think between the Montreal bagels and the New York bagels? Like H&H bagels or the Montreal bagels? Where are we on bagels?

Honestly, I don't F with bagels. So what does that mean? I just don't, I don't have an opinion because I don't really bagel. You don't bagel? I don't, I don't F with bagels. So what does that mean? I just don't, I don't have an opinion because I don't really bagel. You don't bagel? I don't bagel. Oh. I like bagels, but like, when I eat bread,

I gain 400 pounds overnight. So what about the bread that- Until I'm no longer on camera, I just have to avoid the bagels. Okay, that's totally fair. I can't even enter into it. Okay, what about the bread that your wife makes because she makes beautiful bread. That's bread in the world. I'll eat a whole

loaf of it. Yeah but that doesn't make you gain 40 pounds overnight probably because it's so clean. It's different. Yeah it's different. I mean look it might I'm heavier than I've ever been in my life right now so maybe it is. And hotter than you've ever been in your life. There we go. You mean physically hot? I'm here to say physically hot. Yes, I am pretty warm. So there's a sort of a dendem to that. Victoria asks, since Gabriel is a vegetarian, did they get him a vegetarian hot dog for the scene at the hot dog cart? Are there any food scenes that you had to do so many takes of it made you ill

or swear off a particular food forever? So the answer is yes. Gabriel did get a vegetarian hot dog, and you can bet that those are vegetarian hot dogs. And I'm gonna just give you a little inside baseball on food scenes. I just finished doing a show where I was like eating a donut or eating a, you know, I just was always taking a bite of whatever I had,

like a cookie. The thing that you gotta do is props. Who gives you the food also has to have a little bucket in your body so you can spit it out when they say cut, because you can't eat that much. You really do feel bad if you eat that much. Like if you eat like 26 bites of a bagel, it's hard. What if you swallow in the scene though?

How do you spit it out if you swallow it in the scene? Then I really am careful about what we eat. It's also why you see most actors, when food lands on the table in a scene, you'll just notice no one touches it. Because for this exact reason, nobody wants to have to eat it a bunch of times. We just saw a scene where you were eating when you opened the door. You were open the door to your apartment and Lola was there and you had a...

Were you eating like baked beans or something out of a pot? Yeah, so I do a different thing. I always eat, even though I know it's a bad idea. And because I've noticed that actors on TV don't eat and it drives me crazy. So, and every time there's food, I try and find a way to eat as much as humanly possible without, not as much humanly possible,

but I eat in the scene as much as I can pull off for the whole scene because it drives me crazy when I watch a show and I see food and nobody's touching it. The first time I had this experience though, I was shooting with Dustin Hoffman actually on Luck and I hadn't really learned this lesson yet and I sat down across from him for this scene

where this like his private chef in the scene is serving up duck, very rich food. And so we're sitting there at this dinner and duck is being put in front of us and I was young and quite hungry at the beginning. It was like we were filming around lunch and it just didn't occur to me and so I in the middle of the scene take like three pretty healthy bites of duck rich, you know, duck meat.

Oh, I'm struggling. And I finished and I was like, oh, well. And Dustin Hoffman just starts laughing at me across the table. And I'm like, why is he laughing at me? He goes, you're really gonna regret that kid. Sure enough, five hours later, when we're shooting the same scene in every single take, I have to do three bites of duck. By the end of it, I think I'd had like three full plates

of duck meat. It was grotesque. So you never had duck ever again. I haven't had ducks since then. No. Thank you, Dustin Hoffman. Jeff in Cloverdale, California. I'd like to discuss the blue folders with a single piece of paper that somehow explains

everything, changes everything and solves everything. What did those one sheet say? I would love a t-shirt with a blue folder theme. Great call. We used to joke about this all the time. Not only the piece of paper that changes everything and solves everything, but how every character can read it instantly. They just open the folder and they've downloaded all of the information without even having to take a minute to read it. They're magic folders. I don't know what to say.

There are a lot of fun TikTok videos of people reenacting scenes and doing that. Yeah. It gets really funny and saying, what do you mean? Or I know everything. I wish that was my life. I wish most of the problems in my life,

someone could hand me a folder. I'd be like, oh nice, we got them. I do want to say this about props though. When I did have time in between shots and I looked at the thing, it was always legitimately what we were talking about. They went and did the work to make it be the case with the issue in an official thing. I just thought that was incredibly generous of them to take the time to do that.

It was kind of amazing. I was really close to ordering because there's a website where you can buy props from suits. No way. Oh cool. And most of them are the, it's the paperwork and like IDs and envelopes and stuff like that. But for, I almost ordered one just for this question, but it was like $200 for a sheet of paper. So I decided not to do that, but I just want you to know they're out there. Those props.

I love that you know that, but I just want you to know, they're out there, those props. I love that you know that, Kristen. Okay, so from Karen in Denver, I'm rewatching the show with you, and I had a random question. How often, if at all, did you all run into the glass walls of the offices? I know if I worked in a place like that, I would constantly be mistaking a pane of glass

for an open door, excited to keep listening. This is a, oh, Heath. Heath also reached out on Instagram with the same question, and there is a real answer to this. That was actually a real dangerous situation. People did, uh, run into that. And so, between scenes, the A.D.'s would put

Post-It notes across all the windows. It's kind of like if you have a sliding glass door and you want to put something on there The ADs would put Post-it notes across all the windows. It's kind of like if you have a sliding glass door and you wanna put something on there so that the birds don't run into it. We also did that for people. And then we had those pool noodles that also went up on the edges of things to keep us safe.

Did you ever run into the glass, Patrick? I never did. And it was actually a really awful thing to have happen. A few people went to the hospital. If they walked into it full speed, we had a number of people had to leave, a few broken noses and then they would inevitably come back and they'd have to sign the helmet that they had deemed for the, you know, if you would run into the glass, you got to sign the helmet and get a picture taken in the bike helmet that was covered in names of people who had run into the glass.

So yeah, it was, it was, it was always a horrible sound to hear the, like the gong of that glass being hit. It was, it's, it was that sort of human moment where people kind of laugh uncomfortably for a moment. And then you'd realize it was usually pretty bad. Sometimes you'd get lucky and it would be just like a little scratch and someone would feel silly and they'd go for a walk and they'd be okay. But truth is, if you walk into glass going full speed, it's pretty bad. So it was a sad thing to do.

We tried to like keep the energy up and make sure that those people were okay. And I'm actually really happy you asked the question because it's one of those things we wouldn't think to talk about, uh, unless someone, someone asked the question. So yes, sad to have it happen. And a few pretty gnarly experiences never happened to me. Oh, that makes my heart hurt. Let's jump.

Uh, let's jump ahead. Let's hear from Akil in Glasgow. Obviously I'm late my heart hurt. Let's jump ahead. Let's hear from Akil in Glasgow. Obviously I'm late with this message. You're never late, Akil. Patrick had haggis. That's all in capital letters. I've had haggis at the bothy, and my overall strike rate of good versus not so good haggis is 50-52.

Well, first of all, love haggis at the bothy. Didn't love it anywhere else, so that was all love haggis at the bothy didn't love it anywhere else so that was my favorite haggis I had but he does want to know are the full record collection and the balls in Harvey's office real or props and if they're real whose are they the record collection was a really weird I think for a time I was even taking pictures and putting them on Instagram like hashtag what the songs were I hashtag Harvey's record collection, because there were some really weird ones in there.

It looked like the kind of record collection you'd buy from like a flea market or something, like just really old. There'd be a couple of winners in there, but for the most part they were very odd. The balls were signed by all the people in the crew, the producers had signed it, and then Charles Barkley, I think,

is the only actual, Michael Phelps signed it when he came on, and Charles Barkley was the only real basketball player to sign the ball. They were signed from the very beginning. It was just like David Bardas and Aaron Corish. Yeah. Yeah. And then as our show got fancier, we got fancier signatures.

Got fancier. So somebody definitely did Larry Bird's signature for him, because I do remember the scene at the end of season one when Donna and Rachel were talking about the basketballs. And it became very clear that Donna knew the story behind each and every one of those. And so Rachel's like, you know him really well. And then Donna's like, I really do. I love that Akil says here, thank you for coming back into our lives.

You two are supercalifragilistic, ex be alladocious. The episode is coming, you'll see, wink, wink. I love that. I love that they know better than we do. I do, I know, it's so great. Thank you for this Akil. I think we have time for one more question Kristen you're the one that's done an amazing job putting these together

Is there a particular question that jumps out to you that we should answer before we have to wrap up? There's something I've always wanted to know that's I think a few people ask the same question about Mike Ross's watch Why what kind of watch is it and why are you wearing it on the inside of your wrist? It, I can tell you right now, it is a Timex watch. What are the time, what's the model of Timex watches? Now I'm forgetting. It's the classic like watch that we all, that every young boy had in high school, a super sort of cheap Timex watch that I wore on the inside of my wrist. This is so lame. Is it lame? I don't know. Wait, can you explain it to me? You mean like on the

underside or you wore it on the face? Yes, I wore it on the underside instead of wearing it on the outside because I always like to play that. Mike, they gave me that watch as his watch and I'd always imagined he had like a watch from his dad or something. Like I wanted something like that and they didn't offer it up to me. They offered me this sort of cheapy watch and I didn't get a choice about it.

And I was too young to like push, you know, props and be like, I think it needs to be a better watch. So I kept that watch, but I always played that, like myself, Mike would be embarrassed that he had such a cheap watch, and he's in this very fancy world, and so he would want to hide it from the world and wear it on the inside of his wrist and not the outside so that people wouldn't see how cheap his watch was. That is an incredible answer to such a great question. Oh my God, I love this. I love doing this question and answer thing.

I've learned so much. Yeah, me too. Can we do it again soon? I still have the watch as well. Can you wear it? Can you bring it? I wanna see it. I'll bring it.

Yeah, I'll bring it in. Doesn't work. It needs a new battery. I think we can do that. Do we have the resources for this podcast? Can we get batteries? Chris and Kimmy? I love that thoughtful question

and such a thoughtful answer. It's like mining the meaning out of it like I dreamed of. So nice to connect with everybody. Thank you. This has been so amazing. Obviously we're going to do this as much as possible as often as possible. This is one case that will never be closed. We'll never thank you so much for your thoughtful questions.

Sarah, thank you so much for your thoughtful questions. Sarah, thank you so much for your thoughtful answers. Thank you, Patrick. And we're excited to do this again. So thank you all so much for sending in your questions. Please keep them coming to sidebarpodcasts.com. If you want to record an audio clip of the question, then go for it. We can play it on the show like we did today. We love hearing your feedback and we're grateful to you for joining us each and every week. And please make sure to rate, review, and subscribe on your favorite podcast platform.

It's such a great way to support the show and help us all out. So come back next week. We can't wait to talk to you again soon. Thank you. Thanks, Patrick. Love ya. Hi guys.

We wanted to hop on just before we get to the credits because we had a bit of sad news this week. We lost a member of our Suits family and it didn't feel right not hopping on here and introducing you to her and letting you know about who she was to us. Judy Lauchinen was a huge part of our family on Suits for 118 episodes. She worked in the costume department.

She was an assistant costume designer and costume supervisor. And she was a ray of light in that back room. Yeah. We'd always go back there for our fittings and she always had a smile on her face. She loved what she did. She loved the Suits family and she was just such an important energetic person. She was the most uplifting spirit. It was like you would go in there in a busy day into this crazy warehouse and she would be at her desk with the biggest smile. And, you know, Patrick, what I remember is, um, Judy was always there when we

had to take photos of our fittings, right? And you'd come out of the little fitting room and then Judy would get up from her desk and she would always say something positive and fun as you were walking to the spot where she took a picture of you and she would sashay over there with so much joy and share her opinions. I always looked to Judy's face to see, you know, what she thought of the of the dress that we were trying on. And I know that she was such an important part in the Suits family, but also in our personal families. I had the opportunity this week to call Rick to share this

news with him. And, you know, he said he had just been talking about Judy with his son because though his son was so young at the time, he remembers Judy so well, which is the same for my kids, because you would bring, we would bring our kids into costumes that was like, there's the crafty and then there was the, where we would get the treats to eat. And then there was costumes costumes which was a wondrous place for many reasons most of all because Judy was in there and the warm welcome that she gave to all of us and the sparkle in her eye and how the kids felt so special when they were there with her

also all the dogs she loved all our our pets and loved us so well and fully and it's a real loss. And we feel so lucky that we had her for the time that we did. Yep, she was a part of the family for a really long time. Not a lot of people other than the cast, not even the cast, I left before we had finished the show. She was there basically the entire time, 118 episodes. And it was just such an important part of it

from day one. You know, she went on to do a lot of things after Suits. She actually won an Emmy for Costume Supervisor on what we do in the shadows. And I had actually just luckily got to cross paths with her a few months ago this summer when I was shooting in Toronto. And we were working in the same building and she hopped in and gave me a big hug and she was just the same Judy, huge smile and so

happy to see me and I was so happy to see her and yeah it's a huge loss. So we over here at Sidebar just want to send a lot of love to her family and friends and let her know that that we're thinking about them and we'll miss her very much. So we thank you guys for listening. It's important to us that you know some of these people behind the scenes that were so important to the show. And we loved her very much. All right, thanks so much.

Thank you. Bye. Sidebar is produced by Sarah Rafferty, Patrick J. Adams and Sirius XM Media. Our senior producer is Kimmy Gregory and our producer and researcher is Kristen Schrader. Our sound engineer is Alex Gonzalez, and our music is by Brendan Burns.

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