Simple Swedish Podcast - #303 - Claudia lärde sig flytande svenska utan att bo i Sverige
Episode Date: November 10, 2025Nivå: B1-B2 Claudia, en tidigare elev till mig, berättar om sin resa att lära sig flytande svenska utan att bo i Sverige. Hör hennes erfarenheter och strategier för att lära sig språket, inklus...ive hur hon fick svenskar att faktiskt prata svenska, och inte byta till engelska. Claudia beskriver också hur viktig hennes kärlek till Sverige har varit, och hur hon har integrerat språket i vardagen. Du kan också titta på videoversionen här. Transkript Fredrik Hallå hallå! Det här är ett samtal mellan mig och Claudia. Claudia var en elev till mig ganska länge. Och hon lyckades lära sig flytande svenska utan att bo i Sverige. Jag är faktiskt väldigt imponerad över hennes svenska. Så jag har frågat henne hur hon har gjort det här och ja.. Titta på det här samtalet för att få veta hur hon lärde sig flytande svenska utan att bo i Sverige. Och kanske speciellt hennes trick för att stanna i svenska språket med svenskarna och inte byta till engelska. Ja, då lyssnar vi på samtalet. Men, hej där Claudia. Hej! Claudia Hej Fredrik. Fredrik Ja, det var jättekul. Att se dig igen. Claudia Detsamma. Fredrik Det var ju länge sedan vi. Du var ju en elev till mig. För några år sedan. Claudia Det stämmer. Fredrik Ja. Så det är faktiskt jättekul att prata. Och ja. Jag märker att du har.. Vi har ju pratat lite innan. Claudia Ja. Fredrik Jag märker att du pratar fortfarande väldigt bra svenska, så.. Claudia Tack så mycket! Tack till dig! Fredrik Ja, ja. Det är ju du som gör själva jobbet. Claudia Ja, man behöver också bra lärare. Fredrik Ja, det är sant. Så. Men det betyder ju att du måste ha fortsatt använda språket och så. Men vi kanske kommer till det för att jag tänkte att vi kan börja med att du bara kanske berättar vem du är och vad du gör och varför du började lära dig svenska egentligen? ..resten av transkriptet hittar du här.
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Hello, this is a
a talk between me and Claudia.
Claudia was an eleave to me,
and she lucked to learn
fly-sweenska, without to be in Sweden.
I am actually very imponered over her
her's, so I've asked her how she has
and, and, yeah, look at this
for to get her how she learned
flitando-svanska, without to be in
Sweden, and, maybe special, her trick
for to stand in Spanish-Sprosket
with Swanskana and not to
English.
Yeah, then listen we on the Sampalet.
But hey there, Claudia.
Hey, Frederic.
Yeah, it was really cool
to see you again.
The same.
It was a long ago.
You were a student to me
for
a few years since.
Yeah,
it's true.
So it's actually
a great cool to
to talk.
And, yeah, I
I'm you have you have you have you have you have you have you I'm
thank you so thank you so I'm sorry that you're yeah yeah it's you
you do so yeah you have also prolly yeah yeah it's so yeah it's
that's
so
but it's so
it means
you must have
have a
have to use
and so
but we
can come
to that I
think that we
can
start with
that you
just maybe
maybe
you are
and what
you do
and why
why you
started
learn to
learn
in
the
I'm
so you
I'm from Klauna.
I am from
and I have
I must
really look up. I
think that I
started to learn
me in
six years
so
I'm, I
started
learn me in
Swedish around
2020 2020, not
not, not
2002, not
it was a
pandemic.
Yeah, it was pandemic
I also think that it was
around Pasquen
that we learned
know we learned
because one of
the first words
we talked about Pasca
and Pascai and
some things. Come to
in the hog?
No, but I think that
then it must be
when I was
in Portugal, when I
were in Porto, Puerto
in Portugal.
No, you were
I was
I was in
I'm in
I think you
2020
2012
2021
2021
I don't know
I don't
not really
but you were
not in Sweden
no I was not in
Sweden
that
it would
I don't
but it was
one time we
talked with
we were
then you
in Sweden
and I was also
in Sweden
come do you
I was I. I began to learn
I, how can you say it? I was
for elskated in Sweden when I came to the first
time. I was in Stockholm with my daughter
it was also around 2020
during Adventist time. That was in Stockholm
with her, just for a hell. In December then
In December, around Lucia festen, because I learned to know Lucia, uh, now I'm glad to
it, Lusia. Lusse cat, the saffron's bullen.
Yeah, or lusty cat, call it that we the, yeah, that's the cat, call it
Yeah, that's
that I don't
I don't think of.
No,
then
I thought I
canelbuller.
But I was
really a blitzed for
I was, yeah, I heard
in Sweden, when I came home,
I decided me that I
wanted to learn with
the spoken, that I will
I'll go there again
and then I booked in
a fluke to
Yuttebarge and
Yutteborg became my
state actually
I've also
also been on
Lappland
it's Northbottensland
Nara gonger
and it's also
fine with it
as an other
Ved
just the universe, so then it's it's in the
and I can't really say what exactly was that
fascinated me, it is more a kind of a kind of I have it for
yeah, every time I was in
I was in
in Sweden, it was
my land that I
I would not be
esoteric but it's
like I've been there
in an other
life, a other life
maybe, but yeah
so it was it.
So it's, it's just,
you're just, you're just
you're home, just there.
Yeah, absolutely
We have
we have talked many
about
about the different
between
and Sweden
or between
Spain and
I know that
you are
sometimes
quite
critical, are it
critical?
On Sweden
and I
was always
your person
who said
but Sweden is so much better
than, yeah,
I'm that I can't.
Yeah.
No, I think also very
much about,
um,
but,
yeah,
I'm,
not,
that,
to be,
or,
it,
it doesn't,
it,
I,
think, for me,
it's,
and after some
Sweden
not be out of land,
so,
so I'm not,
yeah.
Yeah,
For me, it is out of the land.
Yeah.
But it's very, it's very, it's a very fine,
that you just have a,
a little, a little, a, that,
that you, here, here, here,
here, it's, like, it's, so, so, my.
And, and when it comes to
to, let's see,
the, um, how much
you, you think you've been, you've been important for you have learned in the
language?
It's very, very important for me, because I would blend it in a slacks.
I would be a part of culture, and I think that learning to say,
the language is a great deal of, of, to be a part of a part of, to be a deal of a deal of
culture also is the land of
and it is
it's not so let in Sweden
because all people talk
English so much
good and when you
talk to Spanish
and they make that
you not
don't talk to
Swedish so good they
begin nast to
talk English with you
so it was not so
it was not but I
I think that it is also
it's so much, that you live in Sweden, but for me, it's important to learn
in the language. I think that the language is also a deal of identity.
So, was it important for me, but without my fascination for
Sweden
I
I've been
it's much
to learn
it's in
the way
it was
a strong
motivation
to
can
talk to
talk with
other
people
on
I'm
yeah and
I think
that it
is
if it
is
one end
thing
that you
can say
that
that
that you
that you
I think that it is
that you're just that
you can't
a kind of
for the
and culture
and so
and that you
want
that you
be a
deal of
that
yeah
yeah
and I
I think
I think
that
the
well, they are like a
a lot of a lot of a whole,
because I have also a sense when I'm
you're talking, I'm, not an other person,
but I, you know, I'm, you know, when I'm, you know, when I'm
know also when I'm not a little when I'm talking English.
But also, when I've talked to Turkish, I don't know what I mean.
But it's a little bit more person when I'm a different person.
Yeah, absolutely.
I think many people can't change in it.
But I'm being a little newficking, how you know you?
How do you know you on a swenka?
Is it
Is it may be able to
Or is it
Or is it a little
More abstract?
No
No
I'm
I'm quite
Personally
But I'm quite
I'm more
Muddicker
I'm more chilled
Milled
Mere Chil
Mere Chil
Mere Chil
I should say
more chill, it's quite slant so, but yeah, yeah, it's
quite a lot of, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is so, we have, we have just
talked about PIPI in Longstromp, but are it longstrump
on, so I'm, so I'm, you know me a little more
as Pippi, okay, that is really interesting, I think
I, for that, and I can think, I, I, I, I will ask you actually, why you
think that it's just that. When I, I come to know that after I had had
had several up experiences and experiences, when I had bought
out of lands, then I had used English very much, and I had
has developed
so person and I had
me quite much and I had
built much self-fetroending
and after that
I felt me more
self-sacred on
English and I
thought it is for that I had
had had
had the
experiences that
had been built
self-fetroendet
those experiences had I
had on English
now are it
maybe more
now had it
balanceded a little
little, but I had
really that, I thought
that, is it something you
know that? Why, why
you think you that you
know, stronger
and more, what
said you?
More, more
more, more than, more.
I'm more. Moodier, it also.
I mean, I
don't know if you have
with self-sacarethekarhead
to do, but for me
was it, it's really, it's a very, because for me, it was it like, I decided me that
Sweden would be a part of my life, or that a deal of me is Swedish. A lot of me is
a Swedish. I will not say that I are Swedish, but that a deal of me would be more
I'm
so I did
everything to
to learn my
the more
of
the Swedish culture and
to reser more to
Sweden and I
did many
things that my friends
said what are that you do?
I went to
In Norbotten's land, I, I, I did a sprach course in Kiruna, I, I, I shared with a husky, what is it, with...
Claders, and all these things. And it was like a little befriels. It was my thing, it was, it was just my
great.
I, I, I, I, I, I, I, it was a, I'm, that, um, that, um, to live in the delen of me,
who now have, um, so, um, that, that's Swedish, so, um, that, um, to live
out
that
yeah, to live
out
the
and that
and to also
do creed
that was
not so
vanly
I was
45,
46
it started
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
no,
and it
was not
so
very much
that you
began
to talk
a new
sprach,
that
you know
to walk to
Norboten
for
to do
a
and it was
something that was
that really
really became
and bigger
in my life
and then
it was so
it so
it also
have
time to learn
to learn
I think it
always
that you have
not I had
not time
to learn
me a new
now
now was
it blotts like
it's much
after I
it was
It became important. It was meaningful. It was very meaningful. It was so
spendent. Everything was so spendent for me. It was like a little, yeah, like, like, a little
a
a new
an new
identity
I had just
hid that
yeah
there are
many
interesting
things here
I
what was
I think
on
I thinked
I could
I could
commenter on
on
what was it?
Maybe that it was
that you had the time.
Just it, exactly.
For that
it's one of the
one of the vanliest
that it's
that it's hard to hit
the time.
And it is
to get time
for a so
a strong
project
as it is
to learn
to learn to
a sprok.
But
sametidid
so,
just as
you say
if
if something
is that something, if something
it's quite meaningful, so
then you're always, for that you're
for that you start, for that you begin to prioritize it.
But it's quite a bit of prior to
to start to begin
artificial. So, I think
you must have to find
what I must hit, what must
hit what does, that it
It's important and meaningful.
Absolutely.
Artificially
a good word in
context. I've also
tried to learn
me in Spanish
because I think
that it is a
kind of, it is a
shun-sprach. A
vacket sprach. A vacket
a sprague. I think that
I still think that it, it
It's really good, people are Spanish. I like it. I think of much more people
speak of Spanish, but it was an artificial project, because I had not an end of a relation to
Spain, and that I think the language was quite valker. So, and I didn't know that I
I didn't. I tried it's not. I think it's not so
it's not so hard for me to learn me a language. I've talked about five
but with Spanish, it's not all. And it was so
analogna, because it was
not just the word it, it was
more than just
the spragal. And it
got also further and
faster and snappar and
I was in Sweden,
when I used to Sweden,
when I had learned me,
and it was again as a little
triumph when
I talked to Swedish, a whole
dialogue, even if
the dialogue was just, oh,
no,
you have you,
no, thank,
hey-do.
So,
then I was
quite
so out of
that I
had
off-sulted
a whole
with a
person
on
a
person on
and then
again
I think I
think I
that it
has
something
to
get
with
self-sacacacet
also
that
when you
have
your
little
your
little
your small
success stories
and you're
when you're
when people are
when people
start
what you
say and you can
also give
an answer
so
this here
I will I also
ask about
just when it
comes to
to to
to talk
of swanska with swanxas in switzerland. It's also something
something that many think it is very difficult
and that's a very strong frustration for very much.
It can't be for you also, but you have actually
lucked with it. I know you've said, to be it. You've said, to
example, that you fixed a
And that's contract is
And that you
And that you can
I'm talking with folk there
So
What would you say
Have been
Knicks for you?
To not
To not
Use English
with Swenska
And to actually
Prata Svinska
More
You are
You are much
On English
So that English
is a strong
Spralk for you
Absolutely
I've also, I've also lived in the US, it's been so much lighter for me to talk English than a lot of Spanish.
But I have taken on it much, and you know that I have three Osnors.
Three oasnors?
You have three years.
had it even when we
we have three
for the oasnorseners
for people who
not know what an oasnare
so it's like a
like a slacks
but they have
a manly
swans and
they're grey
and all
people say that
they are
quite
envisa
you do, and
I'm talking about
now, because
I think that
you must be
very, very envious
when you will
talk
with other
Spanish people, because
they should I really
talk English,
genest if they thinker
that you are not Swedish, if they
did quite with the first
the
they say something, I
I
and then I'm
okay they're not
she's not
they're talking about English
sobutt
and then
then must you be so
strong to not
start to start
English. So
you must ask again
on Spanish, you must
say okay
I'm not, I
don't speak not
swenka so good, but can you
can you please talk
longer? And
there must you be
even if I have
done it's also
for them to talk
English because it's not so
it takes not so long
time. So
there must you
really be
really being modic and
talk modic also
and be, and
be, but
also about that, I'm talking about it has much to do with, but how you
know, you know, you, you know, not, not like the whole day,
but you know, like every day, so,
and sometimes are you,
a little,
bluger, is it blugre?
Yeah, blugere.
It's not
like that very day.
Yeah, you know, I'm not
like that. I'm just a little blugher
in a bit moregier in a bit,
and it's a little moregier in a bit,
and it be a lot
on how you know
it, but I can
just recommender that
that,
that, it is it's very important that for say,
have a special formulation,
or a special meaning you will say
every time someone to talk English with you.
For me was also, okay,
I can also
but I would so, I would so generally learn with Swedish.
So if it's okay for you, can you can you
can you snell
talk longer than me?
And it, it
doesn't
all the time, but
quite often.
Yeah.
For that it
is also
people who say,
no, I can't
not talk
to speak
with,
there are people
who say
that just
still say,
not on
on the
but
when they
make it, when they
know,
it, it
It's really on how good you
on the beginning.
It's so that they said
Yeah, okay, I'm talking longer
They're a little longer
Slags, a second.
A little bit. A little
stunted.
And then, yeah, and then
was, you're going to
ask again and again, and then
it's sometimes that they
just were vexled it to
English without
asking me, because they
tappable the word, but I understand it, but again, it's also on if you are stark, to the rightly stark,
that still speak of Swedish. But, sometimes it's so that I think, okay, I mean, now, yeah, so I
I can't even if you will.
And you feel so,
you know, you can't
sometimes so dumb
when, when,
when you have not,
the, you know,
the, you know, the right,
the right word,
and you hit it not so
really what you will say.
And you're also,
even, I think, I'm
quite dumb.
So, if you,
if you, so, yeah,
if you're not,
a
can not so good, you can
you can't
you can, you can,
in English, so
yeah,
you must,
you must,
um,
yeah,
yeah,
you must be a stark,
at,
uh,
to,
uh,
to,
uh,
expuser,
in some situations.
To,
exponera,
see?
Exponera,
yeah.
Yeah, and I've had
I've felt, especially,
especially, if it's someone
who bited to English with me.
And it's happened, for that I, I am blonde,
and they're a man that people from
Nor, they should we talk English with,
those who can English, so.
And then it's sometimes that,
if I can't talk a little longsame,
or not, or not, or not even if I'm, and then I'm, if a spansk-tallant person,
I'm talking about me, then I'm a little mislyckered.
Yeah, absolutely.
So that is, like, that's, like, that's the feeling.
But I have also inset that, if it happens, that, if it happens, so, so, so, do it, actually
anything. I must not
100% strict. Always
just to speak spanisha with spanisha
they. They want to talk about
English with me. Okay, but we can
well do that.
I think it is
important, what you say, and I have it
a little sward with that
not be so strict. I am
quite near a perfectionist.
Are it also a...
Are it a perfectionist?
And it is, and it is not, and it is, and it is, I have noticed, I must be a little more, chilt with myself.
A, chill.
Chil.
Yeah, chill.
Chil.
Just, chilt with myself.
Just, just, not, just, just, but, just, just, but, just, I've, but, also, I've, also,
I've learned me much with
books. I
I love
decker
criminal romans
and I have
learned me much
Swedish also
with to
learn
books. And
I started with
let's-less
books
but now
I'm all things and
then
when you
when you listen,
I think it
even more
that you are
not so strict
because there
are so many
words
that you
can
that you
not know
and if you
will call up
all of the
words
that you
don't know
that you
can it
you take
for
evict
so
and there is
it not
it's really
to listen
so
there has
I learned
me that
not look up
what in the word,
okay, now I've you
read the 20th
time, and now know
what it is.
But now is it
is important to look up
what it is, because I don't know what
is, but
you know, I don't know what you
say, but I think
that if you're supposed to
around 70
so is it
it's rightly
that
to understand
what the meaning
of the book
is so you
must not
know everything
I think
yeah
I think it
is very
important
that you
have
that you
have been
for
perfectionistist
generally when
generally when
when you learn
when you learn
in a
language or
when you
And you know, you know, you must
want to find out of it, that it feels cool, so.
And I, I think, actually, that combination
of to learn much, for that, when
when you're a very good set to learn to many
words, and to combine it with it with
to actually talk with folk.
And, yeah, yeah, even more, the better
So, and I have also
I've also used a little tricks
To example
My navigation system in the
car is on Swedish
I think it is
quite important that you
integrate
that you integrates,
that you integrates
I'm in your
day's life.
So, I, to
example, what I do
now, I
I'm, I
write, and
I, I,
I, I, I,
write my shopping list,
when I handle
mat, I'm,
I'm, I'm, I'm,
my list, on
Spanish.
So, I have learned
me all of all of all my life-myrdsmedle, my life-med, so I've led me all the word for
life-smedal so my navigation is on Spanish. I'm trying to
speak with my husband when I rest of the hundens, but she'll make it not when I
that's nonsense. So, it's important, I think, that it's not just a lesson per week, or that you
learn you just, or vocabulary, but that you really try to integrate
the language in your life, your everyday life.
Yeah, in your everyday life.
Aardashlif, yeah, so it was, it was actually a game changer.
So I have, especially with navigation, I had always, I had always a problem to
forklara the way to another.
Yeah, it was.
Take higher, in an rounder.
Yeah, swing, righter.
Uh, second out, uh, uh, third-outen out of the rondell.
Yeah.
I think, I think it's, it's, it's pretty good to begin to round off.
But, I have a stort thank, that you want to be with.
And I think that special, what you say, that you say, that you must, how you're
actually, with swenkska, that
must be able to stay
a little, that stood on say,
that it means that you
get up, so, but
it is, it is, it is, it's
a situation that's very
job big, if,
if I'm, if
I'm trying to speak
Spanish, you
are English, and I
still say, and I'm still
and I, I'm still
a stable situation, so
And quite soon, can you can you, can you say, and stand in a spot.
Yeah, I think, I've just thought of a situation in a burger restaurant in Yutteborg.
And I talked in Spanish.
I wanted to besteller for Swedish.
And then came a young woman.
And she pratted English with me.
And I pratted still in the Swedish with her.
and she said, and she said, and she said, she said, sorry, I don't speak Swedish.
It was a little overdriven, actually, on my side, after so, I will, I will, I want to talk to Swedish.
But it was good.
Yeah, you're trying
on the same, and then
if it'll be the English again, sometimes
so, so is it
not the whole world, as you say.
Okay.
Yeah, it was a great,
to say it again, Fredrik.
To talk with it.
Yeah, it's the same.
Thank so much.
Varshowood.
Hey, do.
