Simple Swedish Podcast - #303 - Claudia lärde sig flytande svenska utan att bo i Sverige

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

Nivå: B1-B2 Claudia, en tidigare elev till mig, berättar om sin resa att lära sig flytande svenska utan att bo i Sverige. Hör hennes erfarenheter och strategier för att lära sig språket, inklus...ive hur hon fick svenskar att faktiskt prata svenska, och inte byta till engelska. Claudia beskriver också hur viktig hennes kärlek till Sverige har varit, och hur hon har integrerat språket i vardagen. Du kan också titta på videoversionen här. Transkript Fredrik Hallå hallå! Det här är ett samtal mellan mig och Claudia. Claudia var en elev till mig ganska länge. Och hon lyckades lära sig flytande svenska utan att bo i Sverige. Jag är faktiskt väldigt imponerad över hennes svenska. Så jag har frågat henne hur hon har gjort det här och ja.. Titta på det här samtalet för att få veta hur hon lärde sig flytande svenska utan att bo i Sverige. Och kanske speciellt hennes trick för att stanna i svenska språket med svenskarna och inte byta till engelska. Ja, då lyssnar vi på samtalet. Men, hej där Claudia. Hej! Claudia Hej Fredrik. Fredrik Ja, det var jättekul. Att se dig igen. Claudia Detsamma. Fredrik Det var ju länge sedan vi. Du var ju en elev till mig. För några år sedan. Claudia Det stämmer. Fredrik Ja. Så det är faktiskt jättekul att prata. Och ja. Jag märker att du har.. Vi har ju pratat lite innan. Claudia Ja. Fredrik Jag märker att du pratar fortfarande väldigt bra svenska, så.. Claudia Tack så mycket! Tack till dig!  Fredrik Ja, ja. Det är ju du som gör själva jobbet. Claudia Ja, man behöver också bra lärare. Fredrik Ja, det är sant. Så. Men det betyder ju att du måste ha fortsatt använda språket och så. Men vi kanske kommer till det för att jag tänkte att vi kan börja med att du bara kanske berättar vem du är och vad du gör och varför du började lära dig svenska egentligen?   ..resten av transkriptet hittar du här. 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello, this is a a talk between me and Claudia. Claudia was an eleave to me, and she lucked to learn fly-sweenska, without to be in Sweden. I am actually very imponered over her her's, so I've asked her how she has and, and, yeah, look at this
Starting point is 00:00:35 for to get her how she learned flitando-svanska, without to be in Sweden, and, maybe special, her trick for to stand in Spanish-Sprosket with Swanskana and not to English. Yeah, then listen we on the Sampalet. But hey there, Claudia.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Hey, Frederic. Yeah, it was really cool to see you again. The same. It was a long ago. You were a student to me for a few years since.
Starting point is 00:01:15 Yeah, it's true. So it's actually a great cool to to talk. And, yeah, I I'm you have you have you have you have you have you have you I'm thank you so thank you so I'm sorry that you're yeah yeah it's you
Starting point is 00:01:41 you do so yeah you have also prolly yeah yeah it's so yeah it's that's so but it's so it means you must have have a have to use
Starting point is 00:01:56 and so but we can come to that I think that we can start with that you
Starting point is 00:02:03 just maybe maybe you are and what you do and why why you started
Starting point is 00:02:11 learn to learn in the I'm so you I'm from Klauna. I am from
Starting point is 00:02:19 and I have I must really look up. I think that I started to learn me in six years so
Starting point is 00:02:32 I'm, I started learn me in Swedish around 2020 2020, not not, not 2002, not it was a
Starting point is 00:02:44 pandemic. Yeah, it was pandemic I also think that it was around Pasquen that we learned know we learned because one of the first words
Starting point is 00:02:57 we talked about Pasca and Pascai and some things. Come to in the hog? No, but I think that then it must be when I was in Portugal, when I
Starting point is 00:03:11 were in Porto, Puerto in Portugal. No, you were I was I was in I'm in I think you 2020
Starting point is 00:03:22 2012 2021 2021 I don't know I don't not really but you were not in Sweden
Starting point is 00:03:31 no I was not in Sweden that it would I don't but it was one time we talked with
Starting point is 00:03:38 we were then you in Sweden and I was also in Sweden come do you I was I. I began to learn I, how can you say it? I was
Starting point is 00:03:51 for elskated in Sweden when I came to the first time. I was in Stockholm with my daughter it was also around 2020 during Adventist time. That was in Stockholm with her, just for a hell. In December then In December, around Lucia festen, because I learned to know Lucia, uh, now I'm glad to it, Lusia. Lusse cat, the saffron's bullen. Yeah, or lusty cat, call it that we the, yeah, that's the cat, call it
Starting point is 00:04:30 Yeah, that's that I don't I don't think of. No, then I thought I canelbuller. But I was
Starting point is 00:04:46 really a blitzed for I was, yeah, I heard in Sweden, when I came home, I decided me that I wanted to learn with the spoken, that I will I'll go there again and then I booked in
Starting point is 00:05:04 a fluke to Yuttebarge and Yutteborg became my state actually I've also also been on Lappland it's Northbottensland
Starting point is 00:05:18 Nara gonger and it's also fine with it as an other Ved just the universe, so then it's it's in the and I can't really say what exactly was that fascinated me, it is more a kind of a kind of I have it for
Starting point is 00:05:49 yeah, every time I was in I was in in Sweden, it was my land that I I would not be esoteric but it's like I've been there in an other
Starting point is 00:06:09 life, a other life maybe, but yeah so it was it. So it's, it's just, you're just, you're just you're home, just there. Yeah, absolutely We have
Starting point is 00:06:24 we have talked many about about the different between and Sweden or between Spain and I know that
Starting point is 00:06:36 you are sometimes quite critical, are it critical? On Sweden and I was always
Starting point is 00:06:48 your person who said but Sweden is so much better than, yeah, I'm that I can't. Yeah. No, I think also very much about,
Starting point is 00:07:00 um, but, yeah, I'm, not, that, to be, or,
Starting point is 00:07:08 it, it doesn't, it, I, think, for me, it's, and after some Sweden
Starting point is 00:07:15 not be out of land, so, so I'm not, yeah. Yeah, For me, it is out of the land. Yeah. But it's very, it's very, it's a very fine,
Starting point is 00:07:26 that you just have a, a little, a little, a, that, that you, here, here, here, here, it's, like, it's, so, so, my. And, and when it comes to to, let's see, the, um, how much you, you think you've been, you've been important for you have learned in the
Starting point is 00:07:51 language? It's very, very important for me, because I would blend it in a slacks. I would be a part of culture, and I think that learning to say, the language is a great deal of, of, to be a part of a part of, to be a deal of a deal of culture also is the land of and it is it's not so let in Sweden because all people talk
Starting point is 00:08:24 English so much good and when you talk to Spanish and they make that you not don't talk to Swedish so good they begin nast to
Starting point is 00:08:36 talk English with you so it was not so it was not but I I think that it is also it's so much, that you live in Sweden, but for me, it's important to learn in the language. I think that the language is also a deal of identity. So, was it important for me, but without my fascination for Sweden
Starting point is 00:09:08 I I've been it's much to learn it's in the way it was a strong
Starting point is 00:09:21 motivation to can talk to talk with other people on
Starting point is 00:09:26 I'm yeah and I think that it is if it is one end
Starting point is 00:09:32 thing that you can say that that that you that you I think that it is
Starting point is 00:09:42 that you're just that you can't a kind of for the and culture and so and that you want
Starting point is 00:09:49 that you be a deal of that yeah yeah and I I think
Starting point is 00:09:57 I think that the well, they are like a a lot of a lot of a whole, because I have also a sense when I'm you're talking, I'm, not an other person, but I, you know, I'm, you know, when I'm, you know, when I'm
Starting point is 00:10:31 know also when I'm not a little when I'm talking English. But also, when I've talked to Turkish, I don't know what I mean. But it's a little bit more person when I'm a different person. Yeah, absolutely. I think many people can't change in it. But I'm being a little newficking, how you know you? How do you know you on a swenka? Is it
Starting point is 00:11:02 Is it may be able to Or is it Or is it a little More abstract? No No I'm I'm quite
Starting point is 00:11:14 Personally But I'm quite I'm more Muddicker I'm more chilled Milled Mere Chil Mere Chil
Starting point is 00:11:26 Mere Chil I should say more chill, it's quite slant so, but yeah, yeah, it's quite a lot of, yeah, yeah, yeah, it is so, we have, we have just talked about PIPI in Longstromp, but are it longstrump on, so I'm, so I'm, you know me a little more as Pippi, okay, that is really interesting, I think I, for that, and I can think, I, I, I, I will ask you actually, why you
Starting point is 00:12:02 think that it's just that. When I, I come to know that after I had had had several up experiences and experiences, when I had bought out of lands, then I had used English very much, and I had has developed so person and I had me quite much and I had built much self-fetroending and after that
Starting point is 00:12:26 I felt me more self-sacred on English and I thought it is for that I had had had had the experiences that had been built
Starting point is 00:12:38 self-fetroendet those experiences had I had on English now are it maybe more now had it balanceded a little little, but I had
Starting point is 00:12:48 really that, I thought that, is it something you know that? Why, why you think you that you know, stronger and more, what said you? More, more
Starting point is 00:13:03 more, more than, more. I'm more. Moodier, it also. I mean, I don't know if you have with self-sacarethekarhead to do, but for me was it, it's really, it's a very, because for me, it was it like, I decided me that Sweden would be a part of my life, or that a deal of me is Swedish. A lot of me is
Starting point is 00:13:34 a Swedish. I will not say that I are Swedish, but that a deal of me would be more I'm so I did everything to to learn my the more of the Swedish culture and
Starting point is 00:13:57 to reser more to Sweden and I did many things that my friends said what are that you do? I went to In Norbotten's land, I, I, I did a sprach course in Kiruna, I, I, I shared with a husky, what is it, with... Claders, and all these things. And it was like a little befriels. It was my thing, it was, it was just my
Starting point is 00:14:38 great. I, I, I, I, I, I, I, it was a, I'm, that, um, that, um, to live in the delen of me, who now have, um, so, um, that, that's Swedish, so, um, that, um, to live out that yeah, to live out the
Starting point is 00:15:08 and that and to also do creed that was not so vanly I was 45,
Starting point is 00:15:19 46 it started no, no, no, no, no, no,
Starting point is 00:15:23 and it was not so very much that you began to talk a new
Starting point is 00:15:29 sprach, that you know to walk to Norboten for to do a
Starting point is 00:15:36 and it was something that was that really really became and bigger in my life and then it was so
Starting point is 00:15:47 it so it also have time to learn to learn I think it always that you have
Starting point is 00:15:57 not I had not time to learn me a new now now was it blotts like it's much
Starting point is 00:16:01 after I it was It became important. It was meaningful. It was very meaningful. It was so spendent. Everything was so spendent for me. It was like a little, yeah, like, like, a little a a new an new identity
Starting point is 00:16:26 I had just hid that yeah there are many interesting things here I
Starting point is 00:16:37 what was I think on I thinked I could I could commenter on on
Starting point is 00:16:52 what was it? Maybe that it was that you had the time. Just it, exactly. For that it's one of the one of the vanliest that it's
Starting point is 00:17:08 that it's hard to hit the time. And it is to get time for a so a strong project as it is
Starting point is 00:17:15 to learn to learn to a sprok. But sametidid so, just as you say
Starting point is 00:17:19 if if something is that something, if something it's quite meaningful, so then you're always, for that you're for that you start, for that you begin to prioritize it. But it's quite a bit of prior to to start to begin
Starting point is 00:17:37 artificial. So, I think you must have to find what I must hit, what must hit what does, that it It's important and meaningful. Absolutely. Artificially a good word in
Starting point is 00:17:54 context. I've also tried to learn me in Spanish because I think that it is a kind of, it is a shun-sprach. A vacket sprach. A vacket
Starting point is 00:18:10 a sprague. I think that I still think that it, it It's really good, people are Spanish. I like it. I think of much more people speak of Spanish, but it was an artificial project, because I had not an end of a relation to Spain, and that I think the language was quite valker. So, and I didn't know that I I didn't. I tried it's not. I think it's not so it's not so hard for me to learn me a language. I've talked about five but with Spanish, it's not all. And it was so
Starting point is 00:19:05 analogna, because it was not just the word it, it was more than just the spragal. And it got also further and faster and snappar and I was in Sweden, when I used to Sweden,
Starting point is 00:19:21 when I had learned me, and it was again as a little triumph when I talked to Swedish, a whole dialogue, even if the dialogue was just, oh, no, you have you,
Starting point is 00:19:38 no, thank, hey-do. So, then I was quite so out of that I had
Starting point is 00:19:45 off-sulted a whole with a person on a person on and then
Starting point is 00:19:51 again I think I think I that it has something to get
Starting point is 00:19:55 with self-sacacacet also that when you have your little
Starting point is 00:19:59 your little your small success stories and you're when you're when people are when people
Starting point is 00:20:16 start what you say and you can also give an answer so this here I will I also
Starting point is 00:20:27 ask about just when it comes to to to to talk of swanska with swanxas in switzerland. It's also something something that many think it is very difficult and that's a very strong frustration for very much.
Starting point is 00:20:43 It can't be for you also, but you have actually lucked with it. I know you've said, to be it. You've said, to example, that you fixed a And that's contract is And that you And that you can I'm talking with folk there So
Starting point is 00:20:59 What would you say Have been Knicks for you? To not To not Use English with Swenska And to actually
Starting point is 00:21:10 Prata Svinska More You are You are much On English So that English is a strong Spralk for you
Starting point is 00:21:20 Absolutely I've also, I've also lived in the US, it's been so much lighter for me to talk English than a lot of Spanish. But I have taken on it much, and you know that I have three Osnors. Three oasnors? You have three years. had it even when we we have three for the oasnorseners
Starting point is 00:21:50 for people who not know what an oasnare so it's like a like a slacks but they have a manly swans and they're grey
Starting point is 00:22:04 and all people say that they are quite envisa you do, and I'm talking about now, because
Starting point is 00:22:18 I think that you must be very, very envious when you will talk with other Spanish people, because they should I really
Starting point is 00:22:34 talk English, genest if they thinker that you are not Swedish, if they did quite with the first the they say something, I I and then I'm
Starting point is 00:22:49 okay they're not she's not they're talking about English sobutt and then then must you be so strong to not start to start
Starting point is 00:23:01 English. So you must ask again on Spanish, you must say okay I'm not, I don't speak not swenka so good, but can you can you please talk
Starting point is 00:23:14 longer? And there must you be even if I have done it's also for them to talk English because it's not so it takes not so long time. So
Starting point is 00:23:31 there must you really be really being modic and talk modic also and be, and be, but also about that, I'm talking about it has much to do with, but how you know, you know, you, you know, not, not like the whole day,
Starting point is 00:23:57 but you know, like every day, so, and sometimes are you, a little, bluger, is it blugre? Yeah, blugere. It's not like that very day. Yeah, you know, I'm not
Starting point is 00:24:14 like that. I'm just a little blugher in a bit moregier in a bit, and it's a little moregier in a bit, and it be a lot on how you know it, but I can just recommender that that,
Starting point is 00:24:26 that, it is it's very important that for say, have a special formulation, or a special meaning you will say every time someone to talk English with you. For me was also, okay, I can also but I would so, I would so generally learn with Swedish. So if it's okay for you, can you can you
Starting point is 00:24:57 can you snell talk longer than me? And it, it doesn't all the time, but quite often. Yeah. For that it
Starting point is 00:25:08 is also people who say, no, I can't not talk to speak with, there are people who say
Starting point is 00:25:15 that just still say, not on on the but when they make it, when they know,
Starting point is 00:25:23 it, it It's really on how good you on the beginning. It's so that they said Yeah, okay, I'm talking longer They're a little longer Slags, a second. A little bit. A little
Starting point is 00:25:38 stunted. And then, yeah, and then was, you're going to ask again and again, and then it's sometimes that they just were vexled it to English without asking me, because they
Starting point is 00:25:52 tappable the word, but I understand it, but again, it's also on if you are stark, to the rightly stark, that still speak of Swedish. But, sometimes it's so that I think, okay, I mean, now, yeah, so I I can't even if you will. And you feel so, you know, you can't sometimes so dumb when, when, when you have not,
Starting point is 00:26:30 the, you know, the, you know, the right, the right word, and you hit it not so really what you will say. And you're also, even, I think, I'm quite dumb.
Starting point is 00:26:43 So, if you, if you, so, yeah, if you're not, a can not so good, you can you can't you can, you can, in English, so
Starting point is 00:26:55 yeah, you must, you must, um, yeah, yeah, you must be a stark, at,
Starting point is 00:27:06 uh, to, uh, to, uh, expuser, in some situations. To,
Starting point is 00:27:13 exponera, see? Exponera, yeah. Yeah, and I've had I've felt, especially, especially, if it's someone who bited to English with me.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And it's happened, for that I, I am blonde, and they're a man that people from Nor, they should we talk English with, those who can English, so. And then it's sometimes that, if I can't talk a little longsame, or not, or not, or not even if I'm, and then I'm, if a spansk-tallant person, I'm talking about me, then I'm a little mislyckered.
Starting point is 00:27:57 Yeah, absolutely. So that is, like, that's, like, that's the feeling. But I have also inset that, if it happens, that, if it happens, so, so, so, do it, actually anything. I must not 100% strict. Always just to speak spanisha with spanisha they. They want to talk about English with me. Okay, but we can
Starting point is 00:28:24 well do that. I think it is important, what you say, and I have it a little sward with that not be so strict. I am quite near a perfectionist. Are it also a... Are it a perfectionist?
Starting point is 00:28:40 And it is, and it is not, and it is, and it is, I have noticed, I must be a little more, chilt with myself. A, chill. Chil. Yeah, chill. Chil. Just, chilt with myself. Just, just, not, just, just, but, just, just, but, just, I've, but, also, I've, also, I've learned me much with
Starting point is 00:29:12 books. I I love decker criminal romans and I have learned me much Swedish also with to
Starting point is 00:29:26 learn books. And I started with let's-less books but now I'm all things and then
Starting point is 00:29:39 when you when you listen, I think it even more that you are not so strict because there are so many
Starting point is 00:29:49 words that you can that you not know and if you will call up all of the
Starting point is 00:29:58 words that you don't know that you can it you take for evict
Starting point is 00:30:03 so and there is it not it's really to listen so there has I learned
Starting point is 00:30:08 me that not look up what in the word, okay, now I've you read the 20th time, and now know what it is. But now is it
Starting point is 00:30:21 is important to look up what it is, because I don't know what is, but you know, I don't know what you say, but I think that if you're supposed to around 70 so is it
Starting point is 00:30:38 it's rightly that to understand what the meaning of the book is so you must not know everything
Starting point is 00:30:48 I think yeah I think it is very important that you have that you
Starting point is 00:30:56 have been for perfectionistist generally when generally when when you learn when you learn in a
Starting point is 00:31:02 language or when you And you know, you know, you must want to find out of it, that it feels cool, so. And I, I think, actually, that combination of to learn much, for that, when when you're a very good set to learn to many words, and to combine it with it with
Starting point is 00:31:26 to actually talk with folk. And, yeah, yeah, even more, the better So, and I have also I've also used a little tricks To example My navigation system in the car is on Swedish I think it is
Starting point is 00:31:55 quite important that you integrate that you integrates, that you integrates I'm in your day's life. So, I, to example, what I do
Starting point is 00:32:13 now, I I'm, I write, and I, I, I, I, I, write my shopping list, when I handle mat, I'm,
Starting point is 00:32:24 I'm, I'm, I'm, my list, on Spanish. So, I have learned me all of all of all my life-myrdsmedle, my life-med, so I've led me all the word for life-smedal so my navigation is on Spanish. I'm trying to speak with my husband when I rest of the hundens, but she'll make it not when I that's nonsense. So, it's important, I think, that it's not just a lesson per week, or that you
Starting point is 00:33:03 learn you just, or vocabulary, but that you really try to integrate the language in your life, your everyday life. Yeah, in your everyday life. Aardashlif, yeah, so it was, it was actually a game changer. So I have, especially with navigation, I had always, I had always a problem to forklara the way to another. Yeah, it was. Take higher, in an rounder.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Yeah, swing, righter. Uh, second out, uh, uh, third-outen out of the rondell. Yeah. I think, I think it's, it's, it's pretty good to begin to round off. But, I have a stort thank, that you want to be with. And I think that special, what you say, that you say, that you must, how you're actually, with swenkska, that must be able to stay
Starting point is 00:34:15 a little, that stood on say, that it means that you get up, so, but it is, it is, it is, it's a situation that's very job big, if, if I'm, if I'm trying to speak
Starting point is 00:34:27 Spanish, you are English, and I still say, and I'm still and I, I'm still a stable situation, so And quite soon, can you can you, can you say, and stand in a spot. Yeah, I think, I've just thought of a situation in a burger restaurant in Yutteborg. And I talked in Spanish.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I wanted to besteller for Swedish. And then came a young woman. And she pratted English with me. And I pratted still in the Swedish with her. and she said, and she said, and she said, she said, sorry, I don't speak Swedish. It was a little overdriven, actually, on my side, after so, I will, I will, I want to talk to Swedish. But it was good. Yeah, you're trying
Starting point is 00:35:33 on the same, and then if it'll be the English again, sometimes so, so is it not the whole world, as you say. Okay. Yeah, it was a great, to say it again, Fredrik. To talk with it.
Starting point is 00:35:50 Yeah, it's the same. Thank so much. Varshowood. Hey, do.

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