Simple Swedish Podcast - #316 - Klaudia om självförtroende och tillhörighet (confidence and belonging)

Episode Date: February 23, 2026

Nivå: B1-B2 Jag och Klaudia pratar om hennes resa med svenska språket, hur man pratar svenska med svenskar och hur viktigt det är att bygga självförtroende och hitta det man gillar i språket. Vi pratar också om tillhörighet - känslan att man hör hemma någonstans, något som är starkt kopplat till språk. Speciellt för att få språket att kännas som "mitt språk". Kolla in andra videor och intervjuer med Klaudia här: https://linktr.ee/klaudiaswedish För att läsa hela transkriberingen kan du bli medlem på Patreon eller Simple Swedish Center

Hello, welcome to Simple Swedish podcast. And today, I am a guest. It is Claudia from Poland. And she learned she learned swen and so good that she learned to flytando-sweenska on a more than a year

and so good that she actually could job with a lot of the Spanish, as a lot of the Spanish. She's now in the and we are about her' resa with the Swedish-Sprosket, how it began,

how she learned she's flittant in Swedish, we're talking about grammatig, on utal, how you can speak with

with the English, with the most, and the most interesting, I, is this is identity, and to-hurti-hirt when it comes to a sprot. So, yeah, it was an interesting, a very long, but had it could be even longer. And I'll also a link to other, and interviews with Claudia. Okay, then listen we on the day's Samtale. Yeah, but okay,

then say I welcome to you today, Claudia, here to my Riverside room, as I said. Yeah, it was treally. I like to winkle as you see. Yeah, it do I also. So, we can well, we can well, that you say in some words

about who you are, quite, I think. Yeah, I think I'm many things, actually, I'm little-talked, but first and first and from Claudia, and I come from Krakow, in Poland. And I am a son

who loves and and has has used in the many years. And, yeah,

I don't what more I can see. I live in London. Yeah, but you have it

just has it in Spanish or have you have you also? Bara

in the Spanish. How you have you already have been interested

of of to undervise in Polish? Yeah, I also, yeah, yeah, for, yeah, for, the Swedish that I've studied, and in my case,

were it so, I'd you really want to study a sprue for real, I mean, it's different ways you can study a language on, but I was very interested in, like, like, linguistique, and to study, I mean, to study the, so, with, the scripted history and grammatik, how all the that go to, and why. So I want to really understand me very beckfirm when it gets Spanish's grammatique, for I've plugged it yet too much. And it's not the fallet with my mother's goal, Polkian.

So I have not really studied spoken for to undervis it on a good set, I'm like, or to can't for the fact, why, something's in the grammatting, or how meanings see it out, or how you're about so, I know, in Fulken.

I mean it in the Swedish? You can't even, like, forklaring why it's also, on a set? Yeah, I understand exactly what you meaner. For it, it's, I have, I have, so-clart, not studied, Swedish, formally, and it took, you long

time, before you had how the same time, how, you know, like, grammatical in its own your own

about, and can be questions, it's not so let, actually. No, but as I'm

not, like, it's okay that we not have studied your own sort of we furtherer different

ways, to pluck different sets, to, undervis a people. Self, it's, it's, it's, I'm, it's, I'm, it's, like, it's, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, play a music, yeah, I've played guitar, actually, and a little piano, top. I've played clarinet, and piano also, and I've sung it in my life, yet many times, I've still, for me, self. But what I'm I'm here here is

it's helpfulsant if you know how how you can how you can't make music, how you're learning to learn some of these parts that music can bestor of

and you don't need to up music for to like to play music but it helps if you helper if you help it if you know what

to delah, which can play with, I feel like that I'm out of, um, I'm from, like, um, like, it helps to learn to learn things, and then can you improviser it also, as if you understand what I mean. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I understand exactly what you meaner for that, uh, I, it, it, you actually,

the gymnaset, so, so, I had it already began to play guitar, but there

you know a little music theory, and that I thought I was really interesting. And it

has also very very helpful also when you can make music, when you

know, when you improviser, because you you can you can learn and you can learn to make, without no theory but I think that it

was really interesting and I think it's still it's super interesting with music theory Yeah absolutely It's a little It's a little somersprok

Or you know You know You learn some words and phrases When you want You're also When you're also when you play piano or clarinet or guitar. You must you know what you're, like,

like, outriced what you want to say, in the music. So, the two are very, like, in my earna also. It has helped me very much also to think on that way when I learn me in the that it's, like, what I will I singa on, what I will I say, what we have to talk about,

and outricked me also. Do you take help when you learn you I'm learning in the sprang? Yeah, I listen very on things, on music, not

just about Swedish music, but all the many different types of music. And, yeah, I, so,

that listen is, like, the most for me, to learn to listen on music, on

and other people and listen actively, also, and it has really helped me and learn to learn a Swedish utal, for example, and Swedish melody also, and betoning. For I feel, I'm inbonding, that betoning and melody in the swansker than, like, than the than the other than I've I've seen, I've seen, but if you say them

with a fell melody, then you're more, that you've made, that you can't say the right word with right utal, but you have said it with a fell betonning,

and then is it to hear what what you meaner if you're infat a swanxed is a a great great a point. and it's something

often has it and it's probably for that many sprang, it is not like important in many other sprang, and then so can you see, heller, on

a script word, how you can be toned it. I usually, I usually say it very much that, you must say utal, not, you know, like, you tell, so you must so you're much, absolutely, and listen to

it's a little bit trokett as a tipse, for some of the same. And listen to this today, but, I mean, it's really what I do, the whole day and I have a feeling of, that my garner has learned to, like, to play in these melodies, on a set. So, precisely when I sing in a lot, some I like, and I elsked

you're in the swanska, so, I'm, is, one of my life's first-ststst love's things. Yeah. If you're

really, you know, then you singer, then it's good, I'm, but I'm also

how it is, because I have, you, I could not talk Spanish,

when I, I, I, I, I, at the university, so I how it is it is the melody

and all the other like it for prosody also. Super-svort. I feel that the Swanska are really difficult to learn to learn to

and forstow this. And especially when you don't live in Sweden and not listen on the Swedish every day. And it helps me also.

I live in London. I live in England, so I'm I'm talking to English every day. So I have not so much contact with the Spanish. I'm not doing. I'm not very. I'm not at all, actually. I work with another now. So it's a lot, I don't know what,

time. And you know, I must have really bestem to that you and to keep uprolet in the same level. For if you're not have a way

to listen to speak with Spanish every day then you'll remember much. But I talk about all

many things on the same on the same on the kind of it is a little difficult to understand

what I try to say here. But, the bookcap is I think, one of the headpoena here was, and it was one of the things I'd like to talk about. For that you have very, very natural utal on in the Swedish.

It's very, it's very, that you've really had listened much, has talked much with Swedish. I would say it, in all the fall, that you have spent it many years in Sweden and really has has, has, have a strong an strong for that,

and I'm, and I'm, and I'm, always say that, that one of the important is,

is, that listen much. So, but if I'm, I've said it now, that, that,

that, that, that, that, you listen very much, and I, and,

I'm, that, that, that it has been, You would say that it is one of the important factors, for to get a good out, or? Yeah, absolutely. And then, so, I also, that,

I mean, a thing to, as on utal, it can't be a little controversial here, but, oh, cool. I think I think I I don't think I that you have perfect utal for to get a firstodd

it's not about as much about an stalker word but on utal so to say utal of whole meanings

uplever I and we know how it is in England to example that there are many who are English.

I mean, that you know, that you're not from England, I mean, and that that you can't see what and still can understand them, but after some, I don't know, it's, ah, it's a deal of society

on a set. So I feel that it can't be a little it's that why I say it's a little controversial, because I feel that you make of a little bit more much. when you're talking about to learn and I uplever it's super-sufficient

as such it's super-victive-att to get it for sure you. But it's other factors that also are super-victical

as, to example, to have self-fetroending. I've had... And an example on it can be I've had

a little in my my life that's not could many many about the and maybe

was grammatical not so bad but they could make so much and I saw

when I was a situation that I think on my my elever talked with a Swedish

and he was outmarked trots that he didn't could out of perfect, perfect, perfect, perfect, and perfect, and so perfect, it exists are not, but also, the chief of the trodending, but also, the person you talk with, is a big role, have I noticed. It's not just about utal, so

naturally can you talk about utal how long as else, but, yeah, I mean, it's not, it's not quite not even contextual, but it's other things that are I think it's very interesting. I'm just this with the self-fetroending. For a problem that almost all has, so special

if you can't be in Stockholm or more, stutter statured, and maybe specifically if you can't if you talk very good English, and absolutely, so, of if you're having mothersmolmol, is it's the most of the strongest,

to just stand in the swanourke when you will talk with swanskary for that swanskary very very much to beets to English. And what just this

with what that actually do that that people beiter and what's that people

standar in the Swedish? What have these different factors for for you, you know, when it comes to

retal grammatism, self-fetroending and some of things. Yeah, when it when it gets to to English, if

people will be able to English, when you when you're when you say, then I

say, so there's, like, three more, there, number one, accepter that

just, that they're being, that they and you to English today, you can try again next it's okay. It's it's not, because you learn

in the Swedish, but if the person will, like, talk, English and then just go to, just, forget it. The possibility number two is, just, say to, like, I learn me in Spanish. Can we

try to continue to speak Spanish and, like, a little longsum, or have, to have, and say to tell how you know, it can be a little

difficult with people who you've met with people that's not so bad so I understand so I'm it's a little

so, it's a lot so so much but but, I mean, I've got

what it was but I think, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,

I, I, that they're not, that they're not, that's not, that's not, that's, it's, that's, like, to, like, for the same thing, if you can. So, it's, like, the enclest tipset ever, also. For, I know, I can, I can, I, I can, I, I come in a whole, with some situations in my life, when I would it would be a little stress-it, and I'd be a little nervous. For, I don't know,

it was the first time on a restaurant in Sweden, or, yeah, I would try to a swan friend for the first time that I, like, mailed it with, yet many times first. And it's stress-it, and you know, and you know what you can say, but the thing is that you know what you can say on swanxed, but that you know what you can say on their mother's mule,

heller. So what you can do is, like, hit something on YouTube on, like, how you can bestella, or how you can bestallar something on a restaurant, or how, um,

how begin you a talk on a swanxas? Or, maybe can you hit it on, we have so many resources on the net can help you. I think to chat, gibbetibri, can you very let use for so. If you're a specific situation.

But that is a great good tip, I think, I think, maybe people think of it, that you can actually forbreder say in for example, and it It helps me. Absolutely. I understand it's a little naive to say so, for you can't not prepare for an improvised samtal, whole, but

it's the, it is it's a mulliedly that it helps to continue to talk Spanish with the person who we talk to a Swedish with, after it has started with a good set, and they have like, like, like, and that you can, and

otherwise, and it's not, you know, that you can't guess, um, on English, that it's, uh, that you can, yeah, that you can say, if you

can't say, if you don't know, but, uh, yeah, also, again, a, a trot-it tip, but I feel that, to that's say, especially when you're on the same, when you're on the same, you can you train up, you know, train on tunnelbanen, to example, and what is it, say first?

I talk with me myself yet often, also, on the Swedish. And it's a little bit constit, but it helps. And so, you've said, when people've asked me, I've asked me, you know, why you're doing it, many times. And why, why, why, I've said, it's the the easiest one can do, if you don't have no other to talk with.

Yeah. And and try to say, that there's no another who's that's saying something on the Spanish, and, yeah, describe, encephal activities

on Spanish and train on that in a way also. So, yeah. When you're me these questions, Frederick, so, so I think, people,

maybe, maybe, that I'm going to deal with me of something super-o-vanly there. No. In other, so, is it quite inkl tips that I, as I'm talking about. But I, I don't know,

not so much, about that you can find out of something, like, super... Yeah, what can you? Wow. It's going to be, wow. shit, but but

but just that factum that you have, you have you learned it in in the Swedish as a vuxen and not and, like,

and, like, you can work as as a learner in Spanish and you talk with a so past a natural utal and

very flitando and so that it is a inspiration for for folk. So therefore it's interesting to how you have lost

so many that many are people, like, so many, you know, I'm saying, can you say. Yeah. But can you, can't you tell you a little bit more

how it why, why, why, why, you're, and how, how, and how, um, and how, and how, and, and, perhaps, how you've brought through this medall-nivow, barriarer, as, um, that's, um,

that, it's, I, think, I'm the the most of the that you're not a number of words, you can't a lot of grammatique, you can talk, but it's still a hard to hold a conversation, to understand all things.

It's some sort of barriar to break it through. Now, now I'm just many questions on the raken here, but what do you? Which are we on first? No, but maybe a little sort of chronology, so.

Okay. But I started with, I wanted to learn a new sprangka. So a very simple answer. But from the beginning was not, oh, Swedish. First it was just, oh, a new sprach. Yeah. I, I wist it, not all. I was I would study

I knew that I liked it, I could I just could I'd just to talk English and English and Potska Just and just Three-sprok It's pretty good Yeah, it's pretty bad, but...

Yeah, it happens, but... Yeah, and then... And then I can already Tyska, so I will not study Tyska, so I... Maybe I'll... Maybe I'll... Svanska, instead.

And... And then for many years there was there there was there on the time to study in the Swedish so

they needed to take a prov in and it was good I've been untaken and it was only 20 people who were only people who

were nottogued because there are not many who can study a a year's course, like 20 pers, so it started a slump.

And this was in Krakow, or you out of another way, you said Krakow. Yeah, I know, I do it, I know how you know how you're talking

Krakow on Sv on Svanskam, you do, and I do it. I'm I think that I should have been that it was Krakov. I'm a little for that I'm a little

a little bit of a short side of just with Polish Polsk Polk phonology and out of so for that I'm really I'm really

I'm fascinated of Polish and how it is when I was there in Krakov then I'm I'm

I'm but I'm I'm learning you now but you listen see you Yeah, then a guided tour there, there on a plaza or on a torg there, and so, so, so, uh, so, uh, uh, uh, a guide on up at, uh, a placat and it stood,

this, this here, the, this starran, who's with, with, uh, L, O, with an accent, uh, z and D. Yeah, so, so said he, okay, who, who knows how? here utalas. And I had sat down, so, how you're how you're talking about, I know, I know, wuch! Oh, wow! And he was

fett-imponered, he said, wow. I'm like, I'm like, imponered as he. Yeah, yeah, really. Yeah, great, great. Good, great, word for avert. Wich, it's not as a name, but,

No, and there a English you in wood. So it's not, not really, but so that you memororied the English word, would. Yeah. It's like that it like to, yeah,

to woodch. Yeah, but, yeah. For a lot, it was a little... It was a little... Yeah, it was... You said that... You said that you come in on an

that a 20% yes yes and then then I couldn't no one we started from day one

I'm still I'm sure it was really difficult and we had a a learerer who it was

fascinating for me he was a little old man from Sweden who was our lector in switzerland and he's

he's a viking Yeah, and I began to learner, and I began to learner, and so my learner was a viking also. What fun was cool. Yeah, I know, I mean, I was super-svore. And I'm just remember, I was super-svort in the beginning, and I fatted anything. And they were just Spanish with us, and it was no English, no Polish. It was, like, shockmethoden, I, thought. And we were, uh, we were twung to, like, scribed to, like, phonetist, all that we heard.

and then so they were so it's really. It was so difficult, really. A little gammal-dacksmethodes also. And, yeah, it took me well three years before I actually started to talk. And then, oh, I say, to talk so long, because it's, it's still still, I had not a chance, yeah,

I had not I had the I'm not the my friends with my from Poland it was just like a Viking who were for Sweden

so it was Polish Laird who had learned she also who undervisa for me and first when I

went to in Sweden for the first Gendiat it was to Sikduna so I took to test

my kunskker and it was wonderful just just So, My father-old, I love my Wonderful.

I love you. Fint. Fantastic. One of Sweden's Elstststor. Mm, just it.

And then I bought I on Siktuna Folkholla and plugged there for then had my university a contract or

not. It was not not as an other. I don't know how it works. But it was,

I got a so-called stipendium, and I went to it as stipendiat. And it was six months that I could talk Spanish in Sikhtuna. I was a little bit of a little bit of a lot of it. But I got to talk Spanish in six months for first time, and without pause, and then, and then, and then, and then, so happened. Are you with them on the Swedish, all the time? Okay, this is interesting, though. For how did you know, how did you know

know them and how did you for to just I'm I'm saying I'm saying my friends when I'm when I was when I'm very you're very much

you had blended classes so that you studied together with Swedish on so you had like they're like they're like oh my they're saying to say to but here is a book.

Varsigot. It must also be a little shock therapy. Yeah, really. And I learned me to say when I don't

understand. So, on English I would say that it was a much humbling experience. I've

tried to overshutte that this this this time and I come

not to some to some I'm very I'm really, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm learning when you're not allowed me yet to say to it's not to for that you're, because then it can cause a problem. So, my friends were super-snellate, and they helped me so

much. It's that's that's so much about people who really who really listen to it also. That it's not just up to you how it goes. For a talk is a

a talk to be a a dialogue between two or more or more people. So, yeah, I know, I

I'm, after I'm, after I was, I'm very honest, I don't, can you, can you repeat it again, can you uprepa? Or can you say it with other words, or learn me, I learned me the, the enklahdricen that helped me in the everyday. And then, and then, and then, something that often happened, it is, you know, that, ah, you're not, alright, let's take it in English. Okay, yeah. I mean, no, they've got to speak to me. And I don't really, I mean,

I'm... Trot you were, for that you were, like, for that you went in school on Swedish. So, this was, you did something on Swedish. So, it was a lesson on Swedish. So that's, therefore it is it most natural. It's actually that. Maybe I had a tur, just.

but, but, but, this is very interesting. It's something that's, it was something that I wanted about, actually, also, the here with to study study,

and study, the sprotet, to live, and do things on the sprotet, and learn to new things, through that

now, were you on lection, but you studied, it's not the Swedish, but you studied it or something else. on the

it's the same it's the real bad at yeah yeah and so I marked the later on the mathematics lectioner that

I didn't really really I really really I'm and so gave he gave him a book

about a mathematician so he said ammend instead for to come to the lecture can this book

and so like you like a to all and talk about about it's really about it's really about a true

with people who will help you and will lead you and understand your behoves and I will

betoner it for it is difficult to find right people who really people who have time

for to listen on you who don't have brought on and And that is something can't really can really, right?

It takes really to get very much time to hit friends and you know, you know, and you've been flitted out of from Sweden

and it takes time. You know, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm often

like, I'm an, one who's not here-ifron. But I have, I have learned me that, for the first all the way, that

so, that you know, that you're not to feel like, that you're not, um, the, um, the um, the, uh, but that, uh, all have a s'ort, with to outclicing,

and, yeah, I'm, maybe uprepa me now a time, but, it handles, first and from self-for-fetroending, like, that you know, and even if you're not, You know, or you know, that you're not so many words, that you're still trying to try and not give up.

And even if the other person can't be it to English, that you can't try and make it. Exactly. That you're not just, you know, just, you know, and give yourself a mass of critiqu. But it's certainly always happened, that people beat into English. I've absolutely it can it can't really

about what's the same yes many swanxas you just and I'm just saying yeah it's I mean you you're fantastic about to talk English and I'm I'm so impad

every time I hear a Swedish every single I hear a Swedish English I mean systemer must have very well very well very when it's fremander

and there's I think not it's school system so much I think it's TV program or it? It's a little in culture, to be out of-ricted

out-for landet. You're interested me for what that's happened in the world, you know, you English and over all around us

the whole time. and we have it on the internet it's not so stort sprang, so it's not so much on Swedish. Yeah, but all TV programs

that are on English, so are they still on English with, like, some, some, the undertexts, if none will. But are it in Poland? Oh, I know how it is... I know...

It's the... It's the... It's the... It's the... I'm I'm really, I'm really. I'm just really to listen to it. It's a woman that's a woman,

but it's a man who, like, and it's like if a woman had the low rusting the low rusting, so, yeah, it's super

un-manly. It was one of my mind-blown uplevances in Poland, for that, I come on, we were on, we were on,

we were on, we were on, hotelet I sat there was I sat there was on TV and so I thought it was like one time or something like the movie film with the ungen and so it was this

voiceover and I thought it was just it was really that they were a voiceover on that they're not so they're not just a voiceover it's the same person who do voiceover on all characters and what's weird and so

And so I, and so I bited I And then it was the same person Who did voiceover On the film also It was one scoadestepelary That we have in Poland that All this are, I don't know If I'd call it for a skospeler

For it was not directly Like, it was much In-levels there, directly Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it is super-rolet and Constit, sometimesidate, Mm-hmm, very good. But I'm notar that

People are just, and then, like, like, like, or so van, like, that it's a man with low-gross that will talk about English to Polish, that you know, like, gyrna, the brain is van by it, on a set. It's so constantly, and therefore, learn you not so good English as the Swanskernah, I meaner. Yeah, I think it has a great great deal with it, that we, you know, You know it all the whole the time, but you you started, but then

you came to Sweden and then came you to and then you, then you go on a Swedish school or a university, or was it a university then? Or was a folk, school. Yeah, it was a school school. And it was in six months.

And, you know, it was. And, you know, it was. So you, you've got into a in a very much context, with social context, and with an activity on the Swedish. Mm-hmm.

It's a fantastic. So, for, for to, like, come in in the the Sprotet and learn to know people and so. For that I, I,

I, also, the end up I can think about I can think about some sort of a reference when I spender it a week in in Brazil I had to help

a compis and so had them a massage course and so I thought I ha nice I I joinar

I got I got in a I got a compisprice and so I was with there and there were some there were some

there were not a lot of a part, I've got Portuguese-partisan, and I've got to Portuguese- and did all the things on Portuguese-Ska. And that made a great-store skillnaut for my Portuguese-

and I'd say it to people that, yeah, social context and to use the sprotet for to do something, and to learn something through the world is, you,

among the best that you can do. Absolutely. And that you hit something you're interested of. I saw you, your clip on the day you're on the day, that you're

that it's good, if you're like, you know, if you're learning, you know, when you'll begin with a less, version, to example. And so, I'll make barnbuckers, as example. And it's good if you're if you're all, but if you don't think them are interesting, then it's, maybe,

that you're not learning so much, even if you have left them. and I hold it's and I'm, and I'm very, and I'm very small very difficult, really very much. So, have I'm making.

It's really specific. It's like, that you can't even know what they are in beginning when you learn to learn to, yeah, I'll learn to a

sprook. Helt, It's so sad that I have a bit of a bit of an enderces that you're doing that you're cool or like to feel a little extra motivation and learn to. And it's also on to know why you're doing it. So it's like that you said, that you have the ability. It's not all that the possibility that, that, that, like,

like, like, studer at a folk-unscholar in six months when you begin learning a language, or it was in Brazil, and you're talking Portuguese, whole day. But, to, like, ask me, why you're doing it, and hit things that, that you're already

are interested in, on the sprot that sprue, can help very much also. And, yeah, yeah, I mean I'm not, I'm important, that you're important. And if you're going to learn to Spanish, especially, if you're going to do it for job, or, like, you know, like, you're trying to, you know, like, you're trying to do it. You can't for for self When you're from when you're When you're trying to speak to swanxia

Then I'm super-victive-victive to Tryka in all the fall And hit something, a book or a course Or a sprach café It's a popular thing also That gives a possibility to talk with other people. Exactly. I've often to find something that's something that's

really like to be personal. For the sprachet should be personal for them. How long you've been in Sweden totally? Or after those six months, you're going to, and then fly-you to Sweden then, then, or? Or have you

never been to Sweden? I was the I was the poland after the six months in siketuna monadernar and after it so I my magistrate

and it took otherlier two years for it was five years that was the the same last system it was five years yeah I know it was a really long time

but you learn she's a swan's, I don't know, and after after that I have ended, so I've decided me and flew out of Stockholm. And there, I've been over a year. So it was not so long time, either. So it was, yeah, there bode I job as a, SFI actually, so, so, so, so you have

just spent, like, a half a year in in Sweden? Yeah, yeah, that was so much... Or, at max, too, if you're all my vistelses, like, summer, yeah,

semester, and so that, but yeah, maybe a little more than two years, total, have I been in Sweden. I've been there. Okay, I think we have been

quite a lot to round it. It can be done to round it, but... Yeah, but we'll go if you will. Yeah, but... But one thing I, in all fall,

was newfiken on, is for that I... I'm interested me very much for for... Um... ...tilherit.

Also... Um... And I've still not 100% clear over exactly what it is... But I... ...mere very much...

that people who that people who a sort of a sort of to Swedish to Sweden or to the sport, or to culture, that

people who really it feels like it's like personally for them, that you really think of it and will be a part of it. That it

feels like they really know the level where it be naturally for them. It is true. and I love the word, and I love it, and I like that's like that. And living, like that you said, on a great fine set.

To live the language, to hear somewhere, is super-victit. And for me, as I, as I, as, as, as, as, as, you know, so I wist I anything about Sweden, before I started to learn Spanish. But then when I started learning me about the school and the And then It was like a Upenbaraelsa

Or say you man so It was a very special In my heart Very fast So I became chere I'm really fort In Sweden And the landet

And traditions and allmolite And I think in my so it's the it's so much it's so it's two people and Sweden in so many

different ways. And just then I had a land as a country I know, it was a kind of a personal thing for me. So you're something that you didn't

hit it in Poland so you see it in Sweden, so you hit it in in the exactly, and now we're in the when you're the same way, it's the same way, that you feel like extra kick, little extra motivation for to learn to speaket for this person. For me, it was a little bit more, so, in Sweden, so

I'm a single person, but it was a much symbolist for me, that it's, like, my, I'm, like, my... I'm, for the first time I knew me, like, free in Sweden, on many different ways, when I, I went to sectuna and I found out of my and I've got to get my special. I love it

and I like I like how it doffed in Sweden. Yeah, and like cannel bullers and, yeah, coffee when you when when land on,

you know, landa, to example. So, all these things, like, dofter and culture and, people, and people, who I've I've ever I've ever I've ever

and it continues that when I have a a little bit more than I can't I'm going to Swedish because I know that it's a trick It's a little like happy place Yeah, it really

It's a smulter on cell at a set So it's super It's kind of philosophical, but it's super-itit, and I holden with you, that it's a great role. If you're not hit it, then it's hard to hit motivation and, like, why do it? Yeah, if you're, if you're, like, if you're, like, well, you know, like, to, for, for at, uh, for at

really learn a set a sprok. If you're going to I'd like one end up. I mean, you can be, oh, I'm learning or buy a book or go a course or go to that or that. But if you're

just, be chair in the Sprotket, so, so come all another just, or enda for that you can, man, you know, for that

you're charing in it. And it's that, absolutely. And I'm, I'm also for to talk about the other aspect of the same thing, if you're not, if you're not, if you're in the same thing, so if you're not, the possibility, like, the way of, the other side, then it's, and to hit motivation and, and, like, and, like, like,

why you know, so maybe, it's probably, it's really much on, like, um, stenticcettiness also. And, again, it has been a little philosophist here, but I think that you don't have not just, like, it's not just happen for people, inblanda, so that

it's a much time that it's time that it's required to learn to a sprok, but it helps if you have a tour also. But as I have worked much more, I've learned me still in the Swedish, so I upmuntra all the to listen to much of English and to learn books. For all these traditional methods, functioned great good, also. Even if you're not chare in the sprue.

Yeah. But you must know hit some sort of lust to learn to learn it, that it's something that's something that's positive. it's it's very but it's very difficult but sometimes if you if you're that you're

and then it's quite a lot on the other side so it's very interesting with the philosophical and

psychological and the part of I'm all me and I'm all right and I will say

one thing that I have already said that but it's not so that I don't do you can you can't speak I can talk Spanish, you can talk English and Polish in many years, but you're still I do feel on my modersmol also

when you're talking, when you're probably not not what you can say and it's okay and I think that you're sometimes that people who learn she's a quirk focuser too much how you can't but it's not

but it's almost so it's quite of it's important to say that acceptance is super important if you do feel if it not go

and you can't speak the first time but that you have you talked English just today it's okay

that you're okay that that you don't get up so that it's important because I I've heard from that they've got to my

the first time then I can't I can't I can't talk because they're not but they're interesting it's just that

just that just that the day you so here and the other person had it maybe not so much time for

you and then then they had so much time you had it so much you'd be able to But next time can you prepare you, and can you, you like, you know, and can you, like, you know, and can you feel more. Just, yeah.

Yeah, if you're, if you're trying to self, so, then you're also a longer, and then it's a chance that the other person, you know, also. Absolutely. it's if you're like one who's a good

but not so many not so many words not so bad grammatical and then another person who can't have a great high level but is

really a lot of risk that it's it not go so bad in that even if you have a high

a so but when I'm when I'm talking to I'm going to my friends or my my level

then then I know exactly how it can't so I up them for like not give up

if they know if they don't that they think on and they say a specific word that they can

say to just now but then can you can you try it on a other set, say but on a lot, you

you don't know, you need to communicate, you can, it's not, you can, it's not about about about words, you can use your hands, you can, like, peek finger at a great great very very workty also, if you are,

like, with people and and I'm, yeah, my mom, so, my mom, who isn't She's English- She's like, she's Can't talk about all myelic Sprook, but she can Communiser with folk

For she uses a croppstpros Much, so these things fasciners me also, that You're, that you're, among just, you know, that's word that you're and melody, but

it's not everything. No, but well, we can we can't we can't to have to have to have to are there.

Are there something more you will say before we stenger in the book? No, just thank

for in-dugan. It was just trevly to tryfass and discuss and speak and other with you.

Yeah, it's the same. And it have been many interesting and and thenbable things that come out of it here. So, thank you have for that.

And, yeah, have it so good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Have it so great. And we hear.