Single Ladies In Your Area - The Madonnawhore Complex Sex Parties And Being 70 Lover But 30 Fcker

Episode Date: January 11, 2026

Our single ladies are joined this week by comedian and friend Kemah Bob. They answer questions like: Can you ever do yourself justice on the apps? Is the best thing about single life the growing and learning? And is it EVER safe to eat the buffet at the sex party? Listen to Icebergs with Kemah Bob wherever you listen to podcasts, and follow Kemah on Instagram @kemahbob for the latest updates on live shows and more. We want to hear your dating stories! Email in at [e-mail] Single Ladies In Your Area on Instagram @singleladiespodRecorded and edited by Aniya Das for Plosive.Artwork by Welcome Studio. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oh, hello, this is Harriet Kemsley, and I'm very excited to be back on tour around the UK with my new show, Flusi. As listeners of the podcast will know, I am really trying my best to be a bit of a flusie, but it's not going particularly well. The dates are on sale now. It's going to be autumn 2026. For tickets and information, head to plosive.com.com. Hello, I'm Amy Gledhill. And I'm Harriet Kemsley. We're both single and in our 30s. And we've found ourselves back on the dating scene. And the landscape has changed. Everyone has settled down.

But we're back out there. And we're desperately trying to figure out what the hell we should be doing. So we're going to speak to experts. Chat about dates we've been on. If we managed to get any. And share your tips and horror stories. So we all feel less alone. We might even get our exes on.

Yeah, we'll see about that. This is Single Ladies in Your Area. For this episode, we talk about how I've just got back from America. I can't wait to hear all about it And we have a wonderful guest In Kimabob Hello Hello, baby

Hey, baby How are you doing? I'm all right More importantly, I think How are you doing? That is more important It is it It's more important

I think right now it might be more interesting Oh I see, okay Yes, I've just got back from America Y'all How are they do they? No one said that the entire time I was there. Yeah, but that sounds good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Did they like it when you did that? No. Weirdly not. How did Do you, y'all? I had the best time of my life. Do you know what? I realised. So traveling alone is quite scary sometimes.

But I never felt lonely, not even once. And because I was on my own as well, I didn't give a fuck. Like, there were so many days where I, well, most days I didn't wear makeup. I didn't wear a bra, which was crazy. I was wearing a bikini for the first time in my entire life. I love that so much.

And I didn't care. And it wasn't like, this is maybe undercuts thick kind of a bit. But I wasn't like going, oh, I feel like I look great in a bikini. I'm going to wear a bikini. I was just like, I don't give a, like, I don't care. And it was almost more freeing because I wasn't walking around being like, I look good. I was walking around being like, I don't care, you don't care, nobody cares.

I'm just existing and it felt fantastic. If there's so much time you spent thinking people care and nobody cares, nobody cares. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. And you saw some boys. I saw some boys. It saw some really, really nice boys. But it's annoying because they're far away now.

I don't want to call it a sexcation. But it was a holiday with... It was fris on 10. A frisson tapas. That's the way of calling it. It was. Yeah, because you were frisening everywhere. I was frisening left, right and centre.

You can't stop me frisening. I will say it. So I tried to go on like an actual date from an app. Wait, is this your first one? No, I went on one in Australia, remember? Oh, yes, yes. So I was like, I could do this abroad. First one in that continent.

Yes. Yeah, you're slowly getting closer to the UK. Slowly getting closer to be able to go on where I live. Yeah, yeah. So I went on the app. But it's so awkward being like, ha ha ha, yeah, great chat. I only have three days left in the country. So we got to move quick.

And one, I sort of was really getting along with this guy, really funny. Like, and I just find on apps, like, people just aren't funny. Oh, yeah. Including me. Like, because I'm just like. All the joy is just sucked out. Yeah. And you just don't know, because you're not seeing them in person.

You don't know what their vibe is. So, yeah, I don't know. But this guy was funny. And I was like, okay. And he was like, when do you leave? And I was like, oh, like three days. I was like, I could see you tonight. And then he was like, okay, let's do that then.

And I was like, oh, I do have tickets to see improv. So I can meet you at half past 10. And then you're so good at meeting people late. Like, I never do that. I feel more confident when it's pitch black. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Maybe I'm a predator.

Maybe I'm like a vampire. Oh, yes. Yeah. Like 7 p.m. 6 p.m. I'd be like, ugh. Gross, but like midnight descends. And I'm ready. I'm ready for the frisson.

I come down in a black clerk. I'm ready. But we'd be messaging all day. It was going really well. Went to the improv, came out and I was like, Improv done, where should we meet? And he was like, well, I live in West Hollywood. Do you want to come to a bar?

No, I can come near. And I was like, I'll start making my way over to West Hollywood. And we was like deciding between like two or three bars. I was started to set off and then he didn't text me back for a bit. So I was like, well, I'll just. just pick a bar. And so I went to the bar, messaging and be like, I'm in this bar. And then nothing. And then I was like, hey,

are you still coming? Like, absolutely no, no bother if not. It's just, I've got a drink. But yeah, just let me know. Nothing. Sorry, I just have to book a flight to LA to beat somebody up. Excuse me. So, I was like, what am I doing? And then I was like, so by this point,

it's like half 11 at night. I'm in West Hollywood. Having the cocktails they do there are the strongest thing I've ever had by the way. Yeah, it's insane. It's crazy. It's crazy. So I'd have two cocktails at this bar. And I was like,

hoo-ho-hoo! Nana is tipsy. Nana wants a good time. This guy, for no reason that I can tell, has just stopped responding. Oh, maybe it's a fucking pussy. Maybe it's because he's a fucking pussy. In my head, I was like,

he has Googled with the information he's got because he's got my first name. Obviously, I don't do it say I'm a comedian. I definitely don't say I do a podcast about being single. But I was like, he knows where I'm from in the UK. I was like, I wonder if he's Googled me and come across the pod and then gone, I'm out. I actually think this is a really common thing that happens. I think a lot of listeners will be like, yeah, that's happened to me.

But it's crazy. They're in the mood and then the reality hits and then they're... Do you think he's had a wank and then he's gone, oh, I'm not interested. Yeah. Maybe. I couldn't say. I couldn't say that for sure. But maybe it's like just a thing of, oh, actually this is,

I don't really want this or this is a bit like overwhelmed. You know what I mean? Like, I actually don't want to go on a date. Like, this is like the idea of it, but they're actually scared of the reality of it. 100%. I think this actually happens a lot. And I said like, hey, if you don't want to come,

that's like totally fine. No pressure at all. But just let me know, buddy, lull. And he didn't. Never replied. So I was like, okay, I guess I'll get an evil. It's why was he saying that he was excited as well. Lying should be illegal.

Lying should be illegal. Why are they lying? Lock him up. Lock him up. I'm booking a fly. I'm going to track him down. This is outrageous. Well, hold your horses there. So then...

Oh, so I put dot, dot, dot, and then he died. Because he just never responded. So I was like, this is crazy. Yeah. And then he put... So this must have been a day or maybe two days later. Oh. Oh, long sleep?

Long sleep. Yeah. Long old sleep, buddy, was it? I'm out of that coma. So he said, I'm, and his name, he said, I smash phone screens at inopportune times. Hope you're doing okay. I didn't respond because I was like, I don't believe you.

I just don't believe you. I think it's bullshit. I think it's absolute bullshit. I think it's bullshit. I agree. Somebody has shown you there. Yeah. And then I didn't respond.

And then he responded on my last day and he put come and party. kiss and I thought you... A woman would respond through a broken screen case. She would have bleeding hands full of tiny bits of glass in order to reply to somebody so it's not to be impolite and that the date passed. Absolutely. Also, so by this point we was chatting on WhatsApp, right? We had met on Bumble. I think it was Bumble. You can log into that on a laptop. He could just log in and just be like, oh hey, sorry, I've like fucked my phone. Yeah. So I ignored it.

This is the problem with it. Put your heart out there a little bit and sometimes... Yeah. They just don't respect it. They don't respect it. But it's not... It's never us. Everybody.

Everybody. It's never us. Just you know, it's always... It's always them. Except... And that is our motto. Except, can I tell you the final piece of the puzzle? Yeah.

Where it is me. Okay. Yeah. He didn't respond. I was two cocktails deep. I was on holiday. Yeah. I was having my fritz on tapas.

Yeah. He wasn't the only... guy I'd matched with that day. Interesting. It was, so there was a few others in contention for this date. Yeah, this guy doesn't know how in demand this date is. Yeah. This is, this is, so I was like, okay, who was option two?

Option two had messaged me, bless him, and I kind of had ignored it because I was going to my improv and stuff. And then, and this is me being terrible. And I wouldn't do this behavior in the UK, but I was on a whole day. I had limited time. So then I messaged option two. we're talking midnight going, just got this. It was a lie.

I had it, I had it hours ago. The longest improv show you've ever, they just could not stop yes-handed for five hours. Well, do you know what? I've never done this before, but because I was deciding who to meet up with in the evening, I said to option two because I couldn't quite tell his vibe. I was like, hey, this is really weird, but would you send me a voice note? because I don't meet up with anyone unless I've like heard their voice

and on the app you couldn't send a voice note so he was like I could send you a video like a little video and I was like yeah great and that's what he did and then I was like oh this is just loaded it loaded hours before I'm an awful person

and he was like oh god I'm so sorry that took so long to come through we could have met up and I was like yeah you don't even West Hollywood do you and he was like no but I could drive there right now and I was like could you And he was like, yeah, and I was like, okay.

Who are all these men that are so available in the middle of the night? I am planning these dates at like 6.30 p.m. Uh-uh. Wrong. This is amazing. Yeah. So then I had a different day with a different man. Okay.

Okay. Is this the one you messaged me about? Yeah. Yeah, because I got the message at like, quite early at like English-UK time. You were going to date with this guy. And then you gave me his full name. And I was like, don't worry, Amy, I'm on it. Click, click, click, click.

I was like straight onto what I found his LinkedIn. I was like, oh, do not worry. If this guy does anything, I'm going to revenge him from the board. God, I totally forgot that. So you need to now know the context of when I was messing you. I was hammered. Being like, Harriet, I'm going on a date. Here's his full name.

And I think I put, I don't know what are you going to do with it. But if I die, avenge me. I took it very seriously, Amy. I love that you found his LinkedIn. That's fantastic. Okay, brilliant. Brilliant. Well, yeah, so we went on a date and it was fine.

Yeah, that's what happens. That's what happened. And it was interesting. It's the first time I had spent time with someone who I was just like, oh, I feel nothing. How interesting. But do you know what? I do know what you mean.

And I was so worried about this. When we first started the pod, I was so worried about how do you get out of a day if you're not attracted to them? And have we learned and grown? No. That's the good thing about this podcast. We are on no pedestal at all.

We keep talking about how we're growing and learning. They were like, oh God. Did not learn. Did not learn. What I did learn is I am a people pleaser and I am too awkward and polite get out of a situation, so I just follow it to this natural conclusion and then ask him to leave whilst in my head going, how interesting, I don't fancy you at all. Yeah, but you felt like he'd travelled this way. He'd driven 15 minutes, Harriet. It's really not enough. It's really,

it's really not enough. And I am going to be letting his firm no. Okay. Yeah. But he wasn't a bad guy. He was nice. He was nice. He was funny. He was funny. He was funny, like he had a good interesting job. Everything about him was great. It just wasn't. I just didn't. And that's interesting because it's like it's, that's just a thing to work on, you know, like going forward is like just a thing for us of,

I'm not going to do things for them. Yeah. Yeah. Like they haven't wasted the petrol. Yeah. Oh my God. But, you know, it's like you, yeah. And I think maybe you're a bit like, oh, you know, maybe I can just.

had sex with someone that I like don't have a connection with and maybe that's this period of my life and I'm trying it and then it was like a actually no, I hated that. Yeah, so that's learning something about yourself as well. Yes, I'm learning. I'm learning that's not for me. Yeah. Because you know we've talked about like how

maybe it was Felicity Ward who came on and was saying it's kind of like an option is to not be like totally emotionally invested in them and to just like have sex with people who are like hot or whatever. And it was like, oh yeah, maybe I'd do this. that but no there I do need to I need to find their personality sexy yeah I agree I just have to otherwise it's like what are we doing here it's just nothing and but then also like like kissing and stuff it's like it's gross if you don't find their personality sexy because it's like ugh do what I mean is that weird like kissing can go from hot to gross so quick really depending on who the kisses

Yeah, yeah. Well, what a trip. Overall, an amazing trip. Overall time of my life and had some fantastic experiences and did some learning. And I hope that people listening that might be like, you know, like it's hard to, I've never gone on a solo trip like that. Like that's a, that's so inspiring. I hope that people are like, fuck it. I'm going to do it.

I'm going to go on my dream trip. Yeah. I think it's great. It is great. And I know I'm in a privileged position. I'm white. I'm strict. I'm cis.

It's definitely like going on a solo trip. There is a level of privilege. I also had some money. I was going to say expendable. No, I just haven't paid certain bills this month. Better prioritise. You've got to prioritise. But I know there's like a level of privilege that comes with solo travel.

So if, you know, I hope no one's at home thinking, Well, yeah, of course you can do that. But if you can do that and it's something you want to do, I would recommend it. I'm proud of you. Thank you. Thank you very much. Should you get our guest on?

I think we should, shouldn't we? We've got a lovely little guest for you today. Oh, an absolute treat. Yeah. Very funny. Kimabob. An American. Whoa.

Whoa. Fuck. It's like we plan it. Yeah. We planned it. We planned it. We planned it. And the surprise that I just heard in my own voice,

That was a joke. Yeah, that was... That was a really good joke. Thank you so much. Is it ham? Oh, hello. We're just nipping in here in the middle to remind you that we have a pretty bloody good Patreon actually.

Yeah, we're really happy with it, actually. We've been building it over the last year. So we've got lots of episodes where we read listeners' emails. We say some very fruity things, some spicy things, some naughty things. You're safe because it's behind a page. You all we're safe. Our exes aren't paying for this.

No, no, no, no. But it's a really lovely community. And if you like the podcast, it's a way of supporting us and meaning that we can keep making more episodes. Yeah, we'd love you to hop on to patreon.com forward slash single ladies in your area. Say it with me. I'm a goddess. Well, we're very lucky today.

Very lucky indeed. We are joined by Kimabab. Woo! Yeah. The crowd goes, wow. Thank you for having me. I feel very lucky. Oh, good.

You look great. Thank you so much. For those of you, with our eyes, I'm wearing a cute little dress, and I was power walking here because I was late, and at one point, my little booty was out. Wow. And I go, uh-oh.

Oops. It is interesting because it's a long skirt as well. I was coming right on up. It was slithering right on up. That's the power of my walk, darling. The power of my hips and my walk. There you go. You were sending great messages on your walk.

It was... It was available. Are you available? Very much. Oh, great. I think it's a crime. Yeah, I agree. Lock them all up.

Yeah. I'm not even a police or jail person, but honestly, on this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll lift my ACAB for this. Yes, ACAB, except, yeah, when people aren't dating me. You can join the single ladies universe. Yeah, thank you.

You can be welcoming, one of the single ladies. Welcome, welcome. How long have you been single? Oh, what counts as not being single is the real question in that case? I feel like I'm single more often than not. Okay. And I think when I am with someone that comes a point where I go, hey, I shouldn't be doing this. Okay.

So you're into situationships? I don't like that term. No. Because do you know what? I feel like just because someone isn't, well, I guess that's what it's supposed to represent. But I'm like, just because someone isn't your something friend doesn't mean that you're not in a relationship, you know? Yes. I feel like people are too stingy with the word relationship.

Yeah. But you're in relationships, but they don't know about it. No, no, no. They know about it. Although I am very emotional. In the past year of my life, I've had quite a few awesome sexual experiences, but no big romance. I was talking to my best friend about this the other day. She was like she had three romances and one breakdown.

And I have... That's a great way to tally the end of the year. This is great. It's how much sex, how much breakdown. Yeah. And I just like had a few awesome sexy times but haven't really liked anyone in like a big way. Well, that's really interesting.

So how did you come across these sexy times? Ooh, the last one, if you're listening, hi. I was in Berlin for... Already brilliant. Wow. Honestly, and it did add a little, whatever, the German version of Geneseecois. A little German say quat. German say what?

German say what? But I was there and basically I got put in touch with someone who looked after me and took me to the club, a party ambassador, if you will. Was it the club? The one that's really hard to get into. What's that called again? A bovine. It was so cute.

It's one of those ones where you're like, am I doing the thing? Tell us about the club, though. Was it cool? It was so funny because in order to get in, everyone pretended to be this one thing, which I think is the most uncool thing you could do, is to come forth. It famously has a difficult door situation,

so you have to impress and some people get turned away at the door. Yeah. And I think that's a part of what adds to, And the guys at the door, they love it. You can tell they love it. They're like, with a wave of my hand, either you're having whatever you think is inside or you have to plan B. Oh, my God.

Did you see people get turned away? So much. Oh, no. It felt quite random, to be honest. Really? Like, it really felt like they were kind of like, you come, you're not come. And I was like, I hope I come. Oh, please let me come.

And I did come. Yes. Of course. Yeah. Was anyone you were with, they not come? No, no. So it was just two of us that went. We all came.

One of us, more than others. But yeah, it was fun. But the sex did not occur in the club. Classy. But does sex occur in the club? Sex occurs in the club, but there are rooms where sex occurs in the club. And the person I was once were like, oh, the rooms are actually quite intense. And I was like, if you think they're intense, I'm going to take you a word on.

I was like, I'm going to dress you. I'm going to dress you on that. But yeah, it was very fun. It was really cute. Wow. And was it the person who took you to the club? Yeah. Oh, my God.

But I intercursed with him. Oh, my God. Wow. Yeah, and it was really sick as well. And it was crazy about it, which I love. I love any opportunity I think you can take to make your life a movie. You should. 100%.

Yeah. So I had my flight that day, and I needed to be at the airport at three. And so I was doing backwards math, and it meant that I needed to be back at my host apartment by like 215 so I could leave for the airport at three. And that means I need to leave this person's house at like two, which means that we basically needed to leave the club at like almost noon. So we left the club at like 1130, went back to this, had sex on a timer, which. weirdly, I'm not an admin girlie. I was late here today. Oh, but it turns out you can.

It added a little, I don't know what. Oh, my God. It was like the time pressure, there was a little I don't know what on that. Yeah. Wow. It was sick. And I made everything on time,

which is actually a miracle for me because I did miss my flight on the way to. You didn't have the incentive, though. Yeah. Yeah, there was no incentive at all. Wow. Yeah, so that was really sick. And I think a part of like, I want to be, like, careful about the way that I phrase it,

but I'm trying to explore my relationship to other people's, like, gender in my own. And I really like when someone has a dick, but, like, isn't a man about it. Wow. Oh, I love that. I love that. I love that dick, but I'm so, like, I feel like when I'm, like, intercourseing with cis straight men, it feels so limited. Like, I once had sex with a man who was so straight

that he was uncomfortable with me being big spoon. Oh my God. And I was like, that's aggressively heterosexual. I love giving them a hug, you know? I love to big spoon. I love to arm around. Yeah. And like.

They deserve a spoon, but then they can't because of the patriarchy. They can't. It's so lame. And I'm just kind of like, this is a little bit of spooned. And I'm just kind of like, this is. boring. I'm annoyed by it. I would be so intimidated to have sex with you

because I feel like you would just tell it how it is and you'd be like, this is boring me. And I'd be like, right, well, I'm just gonna hold my breath until I die there. I'm a very nice, I'm a very nice lover. I'm a very kind lover. Oh, I'm sure you're a very generous lover. But I feel like you're...

I'm actually very greedy. I'm not that generous. I'm usually backgross. So you mean that like, they are just not too traditionally masculine. Yeah, well, it's kind of like, I think that I, at my best, am very primal. And I think when you're being primal,

you're not worried about the constructs of gender. And being like, eh-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. I'm like, oh, ho. Ducks aren't worrying about that. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. Well, I mean, the ducks are going through a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's a bad time for the ducks. Yeah, yeah. And prayers up to the duck community. Thoughts and prayers for my ducks out there. You're going to make it through. So you would say that the encounter that you had, so this was like a sexual experience, but not necessarily a romantic one.

I think I have the potential to be a romantic one. But so this person's situation, if you're listening, hi, I'm sorry. This person's situation was that they have, they're like poly or open or whatever, and they have like a primary partner. And the thing for me is I want a primary partner And I don't want to really get involved with you

If you're not allowed to fall in love with me I feel exactly the same Something came up about something like this recently And I just want to be the most special one I find it really hard not to be the most special one Well you're a very special girl Thank you You are

You should be treated as such But I see how it like it's I find it very fascinating But I just don't want to be just like waiting for the special one to be done. You know what I mean? Just like, well, can I have my turn now? It's real.

Yeah. How did you meet this person? So you met before the club? Yeah, I met before the club. I was like put in touch because a lot of the people that were also at the festival weren't really like party animals. And I get a little animal. I get little animalistic.

And I was like, I'm going to Berlin. You're going to fucking feed the bear. Tiggle the tiger. So they said, let's let this person. This is the person you need. They got you. This is a bare feeder. Yeah.

Wow. So that was beautiful. But I think I'm really interested in non-monogamy, but I'd like to have that like foundation. Yes. Yeah. 100%. Being a special and making someone feel special.

Yeah. It's cute, isn't it? That's the goal. you're having fun in the meantime, but that's the... Yeah, and not even that much fun, to be honest. Well, actually, no. No, not as much fun as I like, but actually, we are having quite a lot of fun. Yeah, it's embarrassing to, you know, a lot of people who we spoke to, yeah.

It's just kind of, like, like, parsed out, I guess. Yeah. We're, like, we're not, like, fucking all the time, but when we are, we do make it count. I love that. I think that's important. But then I end up very hungry after Because I am greedy And I'm just like, oh

I gotta follow that up But the universe is like, no, not for three to six months I'm like, why? Yeah, I get like that way Work gets in the way, you have to live like a normal life And yeah, then you can't let your party instincts fly. Another one with a fish. Can I ask, Bao?

sort of sexy parties. Well, they're interesting because I think I grew up, like, quite religious. I think on a scale of, like, one to, like, uh-oh. You know what I mean? This is Jim. Jim is God.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, on a scale of one to, uh-oh, probably, like, a good, like, six and a half. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I feel like I was very,

oh, we don't have sex until me. marriage. Like I had a purity ring. Like Brittany. Oh my God. Oh my God. You're like Britney. And we both turned out really okay. We're both fine and as free as we should be. So is this the Christian religion? Yeah. I was doing that. I was doing that big time. I think mostly in a social way they just kept giving us pizza, which is a great way to end updinate teenagers. Yeah, 100%. Give them free food. What age did it?

start to be less uh-oh? I would say when I got to college, which unfortunately it did trickle into that, I went to a private Christian university. Wow. So like a school for quite smart but very religious kids where like preachers sent their children. Really? Yeah.

And it was a very like don't have sex culture. But unfortunately around that time I did start to get very horny. And so it just kind of disagreed with my personal beliefs and values. Yeah. You went from, uh-oh, don't. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. That must have been quite jarring, I guess,

like when you've believed something your whole life. Well, you go, hold on. Was that, was that like a cage? You know, you're like, wait a second. I think that was just trying to stop me from having a little. like full human experience, which is not really my vibe. Life is for living, you know? Famously your vibe. Yeah, famously my vibe. Famously. And once you started living, did you want to stay at the university or then did you

find that it conflicted with your new values? Well, I found that there were a lot of people who were doing what they wanted to do. There was just a lot of like, I guess, conflict around that. Because I think the attitude was like, do what you want, but we don't want to hear about it. Okay. But if we find out about it, we're going to talk about it. I was like, shut up. You guys, shut up. Yeah.

It was a weird time. But what I found was, like, troubling was because of the, like, Madonna whore thing. It was like, if anyone found out that you had sex, then they were less likely to want to be. want to date you. And I feel like, I feel like to an extent, I don't know if I feel like that's still a thing for loads of people in like adulthood. But I feel like clarifying that I want to find like a good real thing, but I don't want to settle for just like things that are around.

But I don't think that I should remain unfucked. In the meantime. You know? Yeah. I think it would be, I think it would be unethical. For me to remain and fucks. Lock them up. Lock them up.

Lock them all. Anyone that's not fucking lock up. Yeah. Do you still have in the back of your head, like any of the learnings that you had from when you were younger? I don't think in a big way. That's great. Like if they are there, they're small, small. So initially I was like very curious about sex parties because they seem like the opposite of that.

Yeah. But then I was like, hmm, like what about this do I like and what about this is for me? I love to be naked. I think that's when my body looks the best. These clothes are getting in the way. Your dress agree. Some of them are just not cut in a flattering way where I'm just kind of like, Actually, like, I think you've got to fly free.

I think the second best, my body looks next to naked, is bikini. Wow. Who's one about this area as well? Do you feel like that? I've just worn a bikini for my first time. Love, how was it? It was great. It was great.

But I was saying, like, I got there mainly from going like, oh, I just don't give a fuck anymore. Yeah. But then it felt brilliant. Yeah. And I think it just kind of like, like let your like natural swarves and curves do their thing. It's like, wow.

Yeah. Yeah. That's animal. It's animal. Yeah. We need to be more animal. Yeah, we definitely do. Yeah.

I feel like I'm mainly like an owl right now. I'm like an animal. Who? I'm just perched on a branch. So bad. I'm trying to spin my head around. Are you on the sidelines at the moment? Are you not playing?

I find it very hard to be animal, I guess. Like, especially with people I don't know that I don't feel comfortable with. I'd find I'd maybe be like a bit disgusted. It's not the vibe that you want at a sex party. I'd love to see how that a sex party. But like, oh, the party. I thought it meant like a one-to-one situation. You'd be like, ew, what is going on with you?

Well, that can happen as well for sure. But I think I find it hard to be like animal. Like if I know someone uncomfortable, but like to get out of the head and to be like, to be animal. Well, I'm quite the same. It's so funny. Like, okay, so with this person in Berlin, we spent most of the evening like chatting, doing a little kissing and doing some dancing. But it was towards like the end of the night where I was like, okay, I'm quite comfortable with you.

The last sex party was that I went to, I met someone towards the beginning of the evening and we just sat down and chatted while people were. like making out around us. That would be meaning me. I was just having a chat until I felt like, okay, I will take you home. But like, so I

think have always been hesitant to just be like fucking in the space, which I think as my like profile has grown, I just like, I saw Kima Bob sucking dick in the club. Not me.

Not me. Perhaps. Perhaps. No, it was crazy. I went to a party like maybe a few years ago. And I was doing my thing, aka wearing very little clothes. And this, like, two dudes walked out to me and one was like, oh my God. I was part of the like cast on that one job that you did.

And I was like, what? And it was some ITV2 shows. And I was like, that's crazy. I was like, whoa. Wild to see you here. And then this other guy was like, I was at. like a gig of yours and like probably 2018, 2019, you were just getting started. You've done so well.

Oh my God. I was like, thank you. That's crazy. You have to pretend you don't know someone at a sex party. It really, yeah. Hush is the mellow. Yeah. So is it a thing?

So have you, you've been to a few sex parties? Yeah, but I tend to not like engage. But I do like being in the environment. of like freedom and like like I love a clothing optional vibe like so I love the energy of it I love what it represents like I love who people are able to be like you know and to an extent who I feel able to be but I'm a lover girl at heart and I'm more of a ratio I'm probably like maybe like 70% lover 30% fucker. Wow.

Nice. I love words. It's so specific. I'm going to work out what it means as well. Yeah. 70% lover, 30% fucker. Yeah. Okay, so you want the love,

but you want a bit of fucking as well. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. I want to get intimacy, you know, like a care. I think care is important. Yes.

Like care is super important. I think in order to, To get animal, you must feel an element of safety. Unless you're one of those people that loves an element of unsafety, in which case, go off. This is so true because I think that's it. I don't feel safe a lot of the time. Like I feel quite stressed a lot.

And then until I feel safe, then I can be animal. Yeah. Wow. I think that's really fair. I'm same. Safe little animals. We need animal handlers. So real.

R.S.P.C. that we should call them get them on the pot I think Sabrina Carpenter just got in trouble for something like that did she do she made something

where she was like man's best friend and she was like on her like knees was there a leash yeah she was like she was trying to get animal hanged

yeah she shouldn't get animal animal handles oh my god people would be angry let's get her on the pot let's get on the pot see what she has to say

about it yeah let's chat this out which are A ratio of lover to fuck her, Sabrina. Madam Carpenter. Let me take a guess. I find there something so intriguing about a sex party.

I love the idea of it. Like, I think it's so... And there's so much of it that I think would be so thrilling and exciting. But then you just think... When you just did become, like, eye to eye to a man's balls. You know what I mean?

Like, it would be jarring. Yeah. But I think that I guess you're in that moment. You're kind of carried away. You're very, like, it and everybody is one and not judgy. Well, you've got to get very close to get eye to eye.

Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I'm probably knock something over. I'm just picking something up. I'm like, oh my God. And then also, not everyone is being naked and also like, I would say not, like, depending on the space,

a majority of people are not having sex. Sometimes people are just dancing, vibing. Depending on where you are, there might be food. Right. Well, now I'm interested. Okay. Things have changed.

What's the spread? What's the food going on? It depends on where you're at, but you're going to want to keep it light. Again, it comes back to pizza. Yeah. That's interesting. That's to the Shokuts. But, like, it really, I think there's this idea about these environments that they're, like, very intense and very leathery and etc.

and like, yeah, I feel like there's a range. I feel like there's a range. And also, you don't have to go. You're like, I want to go. No, I've got to go. It's research for the party. I'm just in there crying. No, I have to go.

This is how my movie goes. For your first one, did you go with someone or did it go on your own? The first time I was. like enter one of these environments was like I was booked for a gig. What? Yeah. It was like years ago. So a friend of mine runs a like performance company.

It's really awesome. It's called the Cocoa Boda Club. They do dope shit. She like created the Black Burles School and like the Black Burles Festival. It's like international. All sorts of cool stuff. And because of the shows that she put on if the like commission calls for, It may have like burlesque or like maybe like erotic poetry or whatever.

They're like, it ranges. It can be really wholesome or it can have like a bit of a spicy element. And I think as a like gift to me, she booked me to do, I think I did some drag and some comedy. And it was so nice because then I got to go to this like, it was like a three or four day event. And there were like workshops on things like intimacy and sensual. but also like being comfortable within your body and communicating what you want and don't want.

We need to do this. Yeah, it's really sweet. Well, sadly, it doesn't exist anymore. Yeah, but it was really awesome. And so I went there to do the gig and it was so sweet. And I was just like, I'm so glad that stuff like this exists because I think when you're trying to like undo a purity, I think sometimes a great solution is just to get a bit naughty. We just got to get finger by pancake day.

So do you feel like you've been on a bit of a journey maybe that your dating has evolved? Definitely. I think at present I'm in the era of, I've actually had some non-romantic situations call my confidence into question, which I think is a very important thing. I've had some situations where people have kind of othered me or excluded me.

And then I go, am I weird? Am I annoying? And then I go, oh, these have been the things that you've wondered about yourself for ages. And it's like, no, just everyone is not for you and you're not for everyone. If you were for everyone, you'd probably be no one, you know? Yeah, wow. And so just kind of feeling in a non-romantic way. like more solid in myself

and I feel like that carries over. Yeah, it's interesting how these things interact. Like when you're not feeling confident in life, it's hard to feel confident. Yeah. It's tricky, but I feel like I'm like, I don't know, I got on the apps for a bit and then that felt weird

because it felt like I wasn't doing my self-justice. Yeah. You know? I think it's hard to do yourself justice on the apps. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was like, I think the whole thing is hard, isn't it? I'm ghosting people.

I'm like, I'm not like that. I'm not that person. People are ghosting me. I'm like, what the fuck? Excuse me? I'm putting myself in the position to be randomly ghosted by who the fuck is this? My ego can't take it. I'm like, no.

If anyone's communicating poorly here, it's going to be right. So now I'm, I'm not. the raw dog in it back in the world. And I'm like, do I even flirt good? Do I appear in a way that appeals to the people that appeal to me? Do you know what I mean? Yeah. And she's like, fuck.

So I've just kind of like had to give it over and just, yeah, hope for the best. Keep becoming more like more me and more like self-assured, I guess. And try to, it's so fucking annoy, but try to like love myself. in deep and real ways and become more myself, which I have a feeling means being a little less party animal and a little more fucking yogi. Those are my... 10% yogi.

That's my like paradigm on the balancing scales of my existence. It's like life is a movie. And then it's kind of like life is a journey. It's like life is a movie versus life as an experience. What's the percentage ratio? I would say at present, 65% movie, 35% journey. Yeah. But I think as autumn comes, I will realign because I'm already feeling it.

Today is the day of the Lionsgate portal, guys. I've heard about this. We have to manifest what you want for the year. Yeah, today is great vibes for that. By the time this comes out, I'm sorry, it's too late. everybody. You miss the portal. It will come back.

It's annual, so don't be afraid. So how do we manifest this? We need to do this. Basically, it's just a great day for calling in what you want, right? And like, I think there's a theme to it. I forget what the theme is. But then tomorrow is a full moon. In Aquarius, so sorry whenever you're listening to this.

But it's a good time to like release what you don't want, which I think is like, so I'm a bit of an astrology girl. I'm a bit of a spiritual girlie. And like, I think the more that I feed that and like align with like who I am, not just like who it tastes nice to be, not just like feeding the beast, but like, you know, who I'm like meant to be, I guess. Wow. And who I am at my core. I think it'll bring me closer to people that deserve to date me. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. This is the thing about being single is that you do do this work on yourself and you do keep kind of going on a journey. Like sad for everyone that's just stopped. The relationship people, a lot of times they're not doing the stuff.

They're just attached to a person. Yeah. And it's like, go off, I guess. Like I think it would be great to be attached to a person, but not at the expense of... It's exhausting. It is exhausting this journey. Are you doing it? God, I can't stop journeying.

I've got to stop. I must be grown by now. Surely. You don't think so. There's a long week to go. You're like, um, based on the things,

just based on what you've said. Only based off of your own words and actions. Yeah, but other than that, who knows? Yeah, I'm not sure. But you did describe yourself as an owl as a sex party. I think there's a little bit of. growth to be done.

I don't know if it ever stops, unfortunately. Yeah. Yeah, I think we'd take maybe moments where it slows down a bit. But, yeah, I think at its best, it's probably ongoing. This is wise, Kimmel. You're very wise.

Thanks, ma'am. Yeah. How do you get so wise? Fucking. That's why we're not wise. Life is a movie, life is a journey. You've got to get rails. This is great.

I honestly, I don't know. I think it's like trying to become more of me and like honor like who I am and what I want, I guess. And like what I want, I do want to understand more or whatever. And so I crave that. And so I take that in. Yeah. I don't know. I just think it doesn't have to be like Madonna and whore.

Yeah. You'd be like a sensual sense. Yeah. So I guess you grew up in that way and then do you think you maybe rebelled against it a little way? Definitely. And then now you're trying to find the balance of you can have both things in your life. Yeah. Because I think being not just in your mind, which I spend a lot of time in,

but also being in your body is like important. And like one of the things, I mean one day I will get into exercise, but one of the things that makes me feel so. in my body is sex, you're present, you know? That's such, I think I really forget to be in my body. It's like I'm dragging it around. Yeah. It's just the thing that I have to move about, but I'm not like in it.

A shameful thing that you have to move around. Yeah, I'm like, sorry, watch out for this sack, everybody. Sorry about all this. That's how I feel about my body. I'm like, sorry about all this. No, my God, can I say, is someone looking at both of your sacks? I love them. These are great flesh socks

Look it around Look it around honey Plop it down Shake it Let's go Oh my god I feel so good about my Let's drag them around honey

Yeah Come on We've got to get out there Have you always been quite confident In your body No I think it goes in and out To be honest Sometimes I have to remind myself

I'm looking for a pair of shorts That really honors my ass and thighs right now What I own at the moment I think is not doing me any favors It's really fucking annoying Like I think there's a certain like length On my thigh Where the thing is

Where I just look so gross And I'm like hey If I was naked I wouldn't feel this way So I sometimes have to remind myself But I think, like, no, I think it definitely goes in and out. But I think also that's like a fucking minstrel thing where there's like a point of the month where like, I'm the worst person that ever existed.

It is mad how much we have to think about it. And also I feel like it's getting long. Like the amount of time that I'm like confident and positive is like five days now. I feel like it's getting longer. You've got to take advantage of it. I have about 20 minute window every cycle where I'm like, hey, all right.

And I'm like, oh, God. Sorry about all this. Give up until next time. I think it's the building. It's the trying. You know? I think like everything you get better with practice as you try. Yeah.

And I'm just like determined to not feel bad about who I am or how I look. Like I'm just going to keep being in me, you know? Like people try to make me feel bad about my voice. I don't have time for it. Who is trying to make you feel bad about it? So many people. I love it so much. If another bitch I meet on a night out says to me some shit like, oh my God, your voice

is just like so unique. Like I want you to like read me a bedtime story and I'm just kind of like, shut the fuck up. They're like, hmm, so relaxing. And like I didn't need this for me because I sense the snuck. I sense the shade. And also, why do you feel the needs? need to comment on this.

Yeah. Like, what about this invites you to say some shit like that to me? So people try to make me feel weird about how I sound. Okay. Don't have time for it. You know, like, and that's so basic. That's so, like, out of my hands. So even, like, from that to, like, my hair's too big for some people,

a lot of people cannot understand the eyebrows. I think they look fucking sick. I don't know what to tell you about it. One of my favorite things is like when I put makeup on, they take on the color of the makeup and then it's just kind of, it's so sick. I'm really into it. I don't even know what to do about that.

I don't know what to tell you. And then you go, oh, my eyebrows do they make me look too cool for the love of my life. They wouldn't. The love of my life would be like, that's so sick. Yeah. You know? The more yourself you are, the more they're going to be able to find you. I think so.

Yes. I think so. And what's sad, I think, something that I, like, have to make room for is, like, my life is a series of lovers and dalliances and, like, having incredible friends. Then, like, that also could be a thing. I'm not at a place where I'm comfortable without being a thing. But, like, it is a possibility, you know? And I think it's becoming more and more possibility for people in our generation. What did I read today on Instagram?

So, definitely fact. Yeah, that's books now. It's how we always say. I read this thing on Instagram. I heard somewhere. It was a tweet. R-A-P. But something like 30% of people who are like now in their 30s will not end up with someone.

Mm, real. It's like owning houses. He's like, oh, yes. Yeah, but like more, but in like a choice in like a, I think you put it brilliantly came with like the dalliances and like lovers and things like that. Like it's a very kind of old fashioned thing, isn't it? And then you find one person and then you stick together forever and that's it. It was like, well, what if we didn't?

What if we just kept hopping? That's it. You just, yeah, it's a better life maybe. Like some people, they find the person and it's great. but I think a lot of people, it's not their person, you know, but they're like, oh, God, I'm doing it. I'm doing it. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm going to make them my person. And like, do you know those people? I know those people. Yeah, I know these people. Yeah. Where they're like, commitment is the greatest honor. Yeah.

My pleasure comes from not doing what I want. That's how I know I'm being a good person. Because I'm on how. I'm unhappy all the time. Yes. So I must be in love. Because I have an awful life where I don't do anything that I want to do at all. So I must be love.

It's like living in the city, doing what we do for work, being myself. I don't know if I'm actually made of basic bitch girlfriend material. Yeah, I love that. Yeah. So what's your dream? Because it's the lines get. What are you manifesting to it? Yes, thank you so much for reminding me to bring.

And a part of it is a romantic. A part of the manifestation is a romantic thing. So girlies, activate. Think about it. Okay. Okay, so I don't know if this is me being greedy or cheeky or if this is like in line with my highest self, which is something I truly believe in.

But I would love two by boyfriends who fuck each other. Oh my God. It's my dream. It's two boyfriends who fuck. I think they'll be so sick. But then someone was saying, if you have one really good boy boyfriend, you don't need to have two.

You can just like meet people. But I don't know. It just sounds fun to have two. I think it's very classy to have two by boyfriends. I think it's so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's a bit old fashion. But that's me, I'm traditional.

But yeah, are like a lovely, like, non-binary babes. Like, I just, I think it just sounds like a beautiful, and I don't know if it's my whole life. But I know this Threple very loosely. And they're all boys, but they seem so happy. And they go to bed at night, three in a bed with their daughter. Oh my God. It just seems so cute and nice and actually quite wholesome

with that sprinkle of naughty. I'd say they're lovers and fuckers. There you go. You need a better birth. But if I'm trying to be more of a lover, then maybe just one beautiful person, preferably with a penis universe, if you're listening.

I do enjoy the penis. I'm going to say, I'm in my dick era right now. Well, yeah, you want two bye boyfriends. That's two willies. Yeah. And maybe they don't have to fuck each other. Now I'm stepping back.

Now I'm not being bold. Yeah, come on. Be bold. I'm not being filled. Save you your whole chest. Commit to it. You want two beautiful bye boyfriends. And I hope next time there's two,

there's a chair on either side of you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm holding both of their hands.

Yeah. Oh, well, yeah. The hands would do fine. For this setting. Thank you so much, Kuma. People can listen to your podcast, icebergs. Yeah. On platforms available.

Yeah. Oh my God, we love platforms available. Have you ever been on platforms available? Platforms available is going to be huge. It's a new thing. Platform's available. And they can also follow you on social media platforms available. So true.

Those platforms are available. You're on Insta. Yeah, you know, it's so funny. I try to be on TikTok, but I keep forgetting. I can't do it. I don't want that. I can't. It's too many labors, quite frankly.

Yeah, there's too many happening, yeah. I'm just on Instagram and it feels enough. Yeah. And it's like you can post the same things from Instagram to TikTok, but I forget that I even have it. Yeah, same. So if you are following me on TikTok, I'm so sorry. Maybe one day I'll put some good stuff,

or good stuff on there. Yeah. Maybe one of your by boyfriends could do your social media marketing. Oh, that would be great. Actually, one's a photographer. Wow. Oh, my God. Manifest, manifest.

I'm really attracted to musicians. The other's a musician. I love this. Like a poet musician. Oh, my God. Yeah, I love this view. I'm going to manifest for you. Thank you so much.

No, no, no. That's the thing about the Lionsgate. It's abundant. You can manifest for us both. Oh my God. We can all mannifers. Brilliant. Well, let's get on with the Lions Gate.

Yeah. And good luck for the future, Kima. I'm so excited for it for you. Good luck to you, my girlies. Roses are red, violets are blue. We've matched on and up. you up to. Kema Bob.

I like it when we have people on that we just, you can tell that we're just like a bit like inspired by them. How do we be more like you? Yeah. So if you go to a sex party, what are you doing? What are you doing this sex party? Would you go? Yeah, I think it's definitely interesting.

I just worry that I might be a bit judgy. You know what I mean? Like I'm another person you want it at a sex party. Yeah, that's like, ugh. You know, like that's not what, yeah. You want somebody very like, very free-spirited that like all bodies are wonderful. Yeah. You know what I mean?

I feel a bit judgy about men maybe. You don't think? See, yeah, really. Yeah. Because you're so friendly. Yeah, but I'd keep, I'd have all my clothes on and I'd be so happy. I'd be like cheering everyone on. But I don't think I could be out of my head enough about myself, which is very.

self-obsessed, I guess, because you'd want to just be like, to be free. I think you have to be how I felt in my bikini, you know, like, oh, no one gives a fuck, let's just do whatever. So I'm wondering what you're doing with your hands. Oh, yeah. Because you are at a sex party when you're doing it. I was wondering, yeah. Okay.

Yeah, I think I'd be too, I'd be anxious. Like, I think, like, when you're waiting for someone to, to arrive and you feel like, I forget how to stand or where to put my hands. Yeah, like, go on a date or something and you just feel, yeah. I think I'd have that feeling. for the whole time. Like, am I sat right? Am I looking too enthusiastic?

Am I looking not enthusiastic enough? It's a weird... I think for anyone what's hard about a sex party is like being anonymous. Like if you do it in the town where you're from, you know? You might be like run into like

the head of age jar or whatever. Yeah. If I was to go, you'd have people be like, so what's Bob Mortimer like? Can I tell you when you're not inside me? Would that be okay? But I love the... I do love the idea of it.

If I could get rid of all my, I don't know if it's like, if it's baggage that's stopping me or if it's fear. Actually, no, I think it's like, it's too many variables. Like, I know what I'm attracted to. And a lot of that I wouldn't be attracted to. And so when I'm not attracted to something, I find it an assault. Do you know what I mean? It's happening near me. I'm like, ew.

Like, that's the opposite of being attracted is like disgust. Yeah. You do not want a disgusted person at the sex party. No, you don't. You don't. Also, that buffet would be bad. I'm sorry. You mustn't eat at the buffet.

I know you got excited about the buffet, but you mustn't, you mustn't eat at that buffet. I think people are going to be too busy to eat. I think if I get there, if I'm there when the buffet opens, I reckon I can clean up all the best bits. Do you know what I mean?

I do. And then I'd like, if somebody did come near me, I'd have like, what's it fingers and like, keesh around my mouth. Where are you going for dinner? Well, there's a sex party on.

I know I wouldn't. You make an absolute killing. We're going to get in, get out. I keep all my clothes on. Harriet doesn't look around, but we clean up on that buffet and we leave. I've got to bat for getting it in. Yeah, yeah.

Maybe it's not for us then. I think I think of sex parties as something that happened in like the 60s for people in their 50s. Yes. So that I picture like old couples. Yeah. Who I do not find attractive. But the idea of someone as like sexy,

and cool as chema like turning up to sex past. I'm like, what, are they all like chema? Oh no. No. Maybe it's like this cool, hip young. Maybe it's what like... Maybe somewhere like... Like that club.

Yeah. She went to that maybe if there's like a door policy, that's so... That's so rude. Yeah. But the thing is, if I got in anywhere, but I wouldn't like it. I'm like, your standards are too low for me. Yeah, that's it. If you're letting me in, this is a...

A terrible place. It's so hard. I'd need to go somewhere where I wouldn't be let in, but I know someone who gets me in the back door. Back door is the wrong phrase to use. I want to go with somebody that I know and trust, but also be anonymous and no one to know me, but I would want them to be so hot,

but I wouldn't want anyone to touch me, but then I would want some of them to touch me, but I wouldn't want to say it. Yes. There would be so many things happening, I would want to control it. Exactly. I think the lack of it.

of control, I would find very difficult. Yeah, if it was like... This is the least sexy chat about a sex party that's ever happened. Like, you really ruining the vibe of this free-spirited sex party. Yeah, I think I need it to be like, people vetted in advance by... CRB checked. Yeah. What are their vibes?

What's their politics? Do I personally find them attractive? Oh, God. Imagine if you were going down on. and they started talking about Nigel Farage or something. Well, exactly. Exactly. It'd be fantastic.

I think I'd quite like to do like, have you seen eyes wide shut? Yes. You know where it's a bit like masks and capes and it's all a bit sinister and no one's talking. Yes. I'd like that. Well, that's a Hollywood beautiful one. Yes. I'd like that one.

Yeah. I'd do that one. But I don't know if I could do one in like Milton Keynes. And in that one is it that they're like... We're going to go to the sex party and then after that the snow time. There's a trampolining park as well if things really go well.

But I think with that one it's like the guest star kind of thing if it's like if it's all catered to me and what I like then okay I'll come to your sex party. I think I want a sex birthday party is amazing. Yeah, I think that's what it sounds like

and I just want a buffet. I think there's easier ways to get a sausage on a stick. Okay, well we can't all be as cool as Kim. I think that's what we're learning, isn't it? But we should bring out our inner animals a bit more. Yeah. And I've got to change mine from an owl.

It's, yeah. I think mine's like I was going to say like a koala, but they'd admit. But I'd just be like hanging in the tree, eating, looking. We're both in the trees. The trees. Which is exactly where we would be. We need to learn how to get down from the trees. Yeah.

Get down from these trees. Get into it a bit or at least be on at the outskirts, you know. Yeah. Be on ground. Let's get to the ground. Okay. Well, we should manifest this. It's the lions get.

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