SleepyCabin - SleepyCast 25 - [The Self-Appreciation Hour] (REMASTERED)
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There is a world as tangible as our own, impossible to see yet unavoidable to sense.
A world enveloped by a seemingly unending ocean of forests.
Buried deep in that forest, tucked away neatly within a blanket of twilight,
lies a quaint little cabin.
And in that cabin, it's a bunch of guys.
He's a bunch bullshitter.
Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the 37 annual Q&A and Reddit Sleepy Cab.
Sleepycast episode
For you ugly folks
who don't realize what's going on
basically every fifth episode of the podcast
we take your questions
which we answer them
Out of the little hat
And by the way
If you give your fun bucks to us
On patreon.com
Fun bucks
Yeah are you fun bucks
Your parents hard on allowance
You can
We'll answer your questions at a regular episode
But this is for you people who don't pay
Well we should explain that we're no longer
gonna do every five episodes
Yes, starting episode 30, we're doing every 10 episodes, we'll be Q&A episodes.
That's right.
This is episode 25.
That's a quarter of a hundred.
That's five more than 20.
That's two less than 27.
Who thought we'd get this one?
Who thought we'd still be alive?
I thought we'd love to ourselves before episode three.
We're going to be bringing in a few guests to like it.
We're going to have like funny thumbnails with like crazy faces now.
Booms.
Yeah.
Lots of boobs.
Stop laugh.
Better.
You're going to have like a laugh track.
Because a lot of people were saying, you know, when do I laugh?
I don't know with the lap.
We'll get out of lap tracks for those of you.
And a boo, a boo one of the jokes are funny.
It's not a good joke.
You're going to have notifications where I say,
nah.
And you laugh.
You guys are all going to laugh.
It's going to be great.
We have some crazy guests coming on.
Like Fred, they know you orange.
My YouTube hits.
I just tea.
I'm talking.
Yeah, I just think.
She's making her re-debue.
She's,
I haven't been on the internet in a long time,
but she's coming back for season two.
For those of you who heard that delicious crack,
I was drinking.
a delicious
Monster energy drink
Are you interesting guy
Jeff off the rails
Is crazy
Listen Jeff on the change
Jeff eats like sugar
It's jumping around you guys
He's a crazy frog
He knows what he's going to do
What if Jeff
What if Jeff fucked up he's like
I just had a bunch of chocolate
I'm a sugar high
And I was like Jeff
Calm down man
Just sit down
I'll behave
I'll be here for the next three hours
I'll start going
Bada-a-Ding ding ding ding ding ding
Ding ding ding
Bada a d'i
Bing, ding, dang.
Speaking of behaving and speaking of Q&A's, Jeff.
Yes, sir.
Do you happen to have a question locked and loaded and ready to fire off?
All the chambers are full, but I'll shoot off the first one here.
Shoot it off.
D&D Movies 42 asks,
have any of you considered doing more serious animations?
Something that's a drama and not funny.
Mick, why don't you take this one?
Yeah, I mean, I would.
I would say for the most part, I'm already doing half of that because none of my cartoons are particularly funny.
As far as dramatic ones, I mean, I've had them in mind.
I have a lot of projects in mind, but will I ever have the opportunity in this lifetime?
I don't know.
I mean, yes, I have lots of ideas in mind, but probably because I have a lot of, like, film stuff in mind, you know?
Like a lot of, like, more dramatic film-y shit that I would then also translate to animation.
What's up?
Corey.
You had your hands held up
looking class.
I don't think
I could ever do something
with seriousness.
Not because I just can't do it,
but because it's not really
in my nature.
Sure.
Like, for me to write
something serious,
it would have to be, like,
bullshit joking serious.
Like, over the top,
something, like,
in the vein of show
where it's, like,
light humor.
Right.
Insulting jokes,
but serious,
I could do something like that.
But a real tone,
it's not something
I know how to write.
I don't feel like I'd write
the character
What was that movie
What was that movie
With the guy with the cancer
With Gordon Lovett?
What's that?
Philadelphia.
5050.
Yeah, 50-50.
Was that,
did that have like a Philadelphia?
That was the guy with the age.
Oh,
Tom Hanks.
It wasn't,
I mean,
there's a lot of jokes in that,
but it was fairly serious, right?
Yeah, I guess,
uh,
yeah.
I mean,
I guess you could consider
that film serious.
The one with Tom Haines
was serious, too.
Philadelphia.
But it was also hilarious,
too.
Oh yeah,
that hilarious scene
where he dies,
evades of the laugh,
He's crying.
My favorite scene.
I thought the funniest scene was when Antonio Banderas was banging him up the butt.
That was pretty funny.
The boyfriend Philadelphia?
Yeah.
That was Antonio?
I thought it was, wasn't it?
It was a very attractive hobo-sex man.
I could be wrong.
I haven't watched that movie any long time.
I tried writing serious stuff, but it was dry humor always sort of seeps its way in.
I'd just start writing dialogue.
I can't.
Yeah.
Get away from it.
I couldn't sit there and write something serious like, oh, you kill my whole family.
family, I'm not writing Spahn. I don't know how to write. Like, if I was being serious, it would have to be over the top fucking serious.
You just Spawn? I love how Spawn was like... Is that your go-to? Punisher. Punisher.
Oh, okay. I get Spawn and Punisher confused because I'm an idiot, but...
In Corey's DVD? Is that your go-to? In your...
Punisher. In his library, serious fucking Marvel.
What about your drama?
It's under drama. He has Spon and Punisher.
next to fucking Shawshake Redemption
Well, I'm talking about like create
Because Punisher like the seriousness of it as a Marvel movie
It's Marvel, right?
Yes.
Okay, so that's something I would like
It would be cliche like that
I don't want to do something like that
It would have to be something serious like
Not done before but everything's been kind of done before
It's serious like everything that you've liked that was serious
I couldn't write something like fucking
the show everybody likes, but I saw the last
finale of...
Dairdable?
A fucking Breaking Bad, Corey? This pissed me off.
Corey never watched what episode of Breaking Bad?
For some reason, you watched the fucking last episode.
I saw the first episode and the last episode.
I guess you cut the bullshit right now.
You got right to it, Corbynchew.
And then I was drunk.
Yeah, you still in the junk.
I could throw in the blanks.
I was drunk and I played the direct TV game
where I tried to guess the synopsis,
and I got it fucking right.
of the whole entire series.
So let me tell you something.
He cooks drugs, you mean?
He's a science teacher who knows how to make good meth.
And so all the bad guys are like, hey, stop doing it or work for us.
And he's like, no, he's like, okay, we're going to kill you.
That's breaking bad.
Yeah.
Who needs to watch it now.
He's going to tell us that.
Corey called your game the second he saw the first episode, did you hack?
You think you were a writer?
Hey, I like the finale.
Well, what happened was.
I like the finale.
You saw the first episode in the last episode.
really drunk that night after running laps
because Swain told me to, so I was already
sick and woozy and I was watching. You run laps?
You ran around? And after it was over, I stood up and I'm like,
really fucking good show. Wait, wait, you got
drunk and then Swain said, right around, it'll wear it out.
He is such a fucking troll.
He's an asshole. I'm pretty sure. Cori, you were doing it on
yourself. You're running your...
I was like really hyper and he's like, Corey,
you know what helps if you run.
Here's what I remember. That is literally on the
bottom of the things you should do with your drug, Corey.
Remember you're running down the street, full speed.
be drunk coming back, coming back, then simultaneously while saying you were going to throw
up pulling on my door handle, trying to get in my car.
Oh, this is that night.
Yeah.
It's true.
I was panicking because I just bought that thing and I'm like, you're like, I'm going to throw up,
and you're like pulling out here.
You're going to get into the car so he can barf.
Yeah, I'm telling you one.
Open the door, I need to get in your car.
I was turning, I was turning, like, bleach white.
I'm like, what is happening?
What is going to happen here?
And then stamper like a goddamn angel's like, you can get in my car.
car, Corey. I'll drive you home. I didn't impuged, though. I didn't puke that man. That's good.
You didn't. No. You're a good boy. You're a good boy, Corey. The last time I puked from drinking a lot of beer was
when someone got like a huge six, not six pack, I think it was a 24 pack and I had six beer,
blue moons, and then I went up to Sarah to say hi to my girlfriend. And then I puked in a bad ring in
it. It was like probably eight months ago. What about New York? No, that wasn't beer. That was
liquor and shit. Oh, I see. From beer.
alone. Well, so that story when fucking John comes down.
Yeah, we need to tell that story. That's an
exciting story. But to answer the question.
Yeah, so Chris and Zach, what about you guys?
Yeah, I could, I could, I could, I could try.
Look, I've always wanted to kind of go into each genre and see how I can do it.
Like, I've always wanted to see if I can do horror well or something serious well or something actually well.
You know, I don't know.
It just would be fun to experiment and see how each thing is.
But there hasn't been a project on your mind.
Here's a question for Zach.
Somebody said, hey, would you...
If the History Channel said, hey, Zach, we'd like you to edit a World War II documentary in your style.
What would you do?
What would you do?
If they gave you a bunch of footage and said,
all right, here's it.
We'd like to tell you a particular battle or something on World War II.
Yeah, I think it would be fun because I feel like a lot of people make it boring.
There's a lot of ways where you can, like, if you look at things, the right way, like,
history especially, there's a lot of ways to make it.
Because it is interesting.
Yeah.
People fucking, like, dude, just decided to topple your foot on.
pretty much.
In our life, Tyler,
you pretty much,
within the last century,
people are still alive
who were there around for that.
And I can already see it, too,
like you'd have Adolf Hitler,
like a slow zoom,
you know how they do the slow zooms and they do it?
No,
but then right before he cuts away,
you do like a funny face drawn over him or something?
No, absolutely not.
Just one brain?
I would show the human side of Hitler.
I'd show him like,
you burnt my eggs.
These eggs are burnt.
It's fine, though.
I'll still eat them anyways.
I don't want to be rude.
I show that side of Hitler.
The real important stuff.
I chose style.
I chose him like,
like, cutting stuff.
human. He's not a bad guy. He's not a bad guy.
He just don't know his noise.
He thought he was doing it was right.
You would have this like,
this like light music behind while you were like,
Adolf liked his aches over easy.
Stalin couldn't shave properly.
Oh, and I guess they fought in the war.
FDR stuck his toe. That's why he was in a wheelchair.
Just really important stuff.
Nobody remember.
It's like, oh, it's so interesting.
It's like all I know is he got shot.
That's the only thing I know about him.
Who?
And now I know that he was in a wheelchair.
FDR.
He was a shot.
No, no, no, the other one, sorry.
Stalin?
JFK.
Yeah, FDR, JFK.
There's another one I used to see.
This is going to be like my fucking...
Yeah, they all have fucking initials.
They have letters.
They're saying...
Whoever goes by it, their fucking initials.
Did you hear...
Did it bum me out when you found out
that R.D.J. got shot?
Who's that R.D.J.?
Yeah.
I was trying to fish you into a situation.
I was hoping you were going to give an answer.
Like, yeah, that sucked.
It's Robert Deng.
Yes, it is.
R.D.J?
Yeah.
R.J. J. F.K. FDR.
If R.D.J. was assassinated on the shot of, like, the next Avengers movie.
Or it was, like, a freak accident.
Like, the dude got shot.
Someone's on the crow.
Like, the main guy got shot by him.
If it was, like, one of that, and he was, like, shooting his hand out.
Yeah.
And they fucking actually recoiled and knocked his block off.
You know he doesn't actually have, like, a rocket hand.
Yes, he does.
That's a visual.
effect.
He doesn't have a real Iron Man costume, Corey.
Have you ever seen cartoons with extinguishers?
You put him on the bag, you snap off the fucking
sprayer and it goes flying. That's how they do it.
That is actually how somebody's wife
recently died. They said
it was one of those gas canisters
and I think it was on the set of something.
If you guys Google it, you'll find it.
But it went flying and apparently it went
all the way through the chest cavity.
Oh yeah, but everybody loves Raymond.
Yeah, who was that?
Everybody loves Raymond? The wife died on that
for that. Oh, was that it? Everybody loves Raven.
Yeah, she died. It went through her fucking body.
Yeah, it tore a big hole in her.
Yeah, she was like, oh, no, she's dead.
I would expect you to die more from the shrapnel explosion?
No, it was the whole canister.
Whoever I even, if you look it up, the whole canister was like a big bullet and just...
Yeah, that pressure is going to happen.
It was the brother.
Yeah.
You know, the big brother's always...
The big troll guy?
Yeah.
Oh, geez.
Went right through his fucking head, killed him.
Oh, my brother's...
dead.
Everyone claps.
Right, man!
Should we move on to the question?
Yes, we should. All right, next.
We're 18 topics.
We've got 80 more questions.
Okay. All right.
Now, all right. Here's the question.
Optional, second part.
Okay.
Zealous zombie.
Zellus zombie 96 says,
all right, here's doozy.
You ironic meme-loving fucks.
Oh, fuck you.
Oh, wow. Okay.
That's a good story.
Go around the table and each present a compliment
to each other that isn't best.
That candid or sarcastic and not related to animation or drawing.
Now, I was talking to Corey about this.
Now, somebody also asked a question, asking us to mention what we hate about each other.
Let's do that one first.
So we kind of...
So Corey said he doesn't like something about me.
This is going to fucking end, but...
No, no, this is...
Okay.
This is, it's...
Okay, Jeff wants to name.
I'll just...
Okay.
What Corey and I can just go and then we'll just do the compliments.
You guys could go into terms of...
I don't want you to be crucified.
I don't want it to be something.
It's not something I necessarily hate and it's not something I find annoying
It's just the kind of person you are where
It's not something that can be fixed
It's just you when we go to places and stuff
Yeah
Like sometimes you you won't go and it's like when we do things you won't go and it's just how you are
Okay, you kind of person right right and that to me it's like because you're my friend
It's like oh man I wish Jeff was here but I'm not gonna fucking go right home about it and cry myself to sleep over it
It's just something, you know.
Okay.
That's my own personal thing.
Now, hold on.
Now, hold on.
You just mean like he doesn't want to be involved,
or does the thing that actually bother you when Jeff says he's going to come over?
And then he just fucking doesn't even show up.
Like something.
Is that what you're talking about?
I'm not complaining about it.
I was just trying to clarify.
It's teeter tottering.
See, now it's interesting to bring that up, Corey.
It's interesting.
Oh, no.
The lead back.
I'll give it to the job.
Jeff just move his jacket aside and revealed his gun.
I don't mind.
I don't care. I'm just saying, is it interesting that everywhere you go to a party, you're only there for like two hours and you're like, I gotta get the fuck out of here.
Yes.
And you're like, get me out of here now.
Does that annoy you though?
It doesn't annoy me.
I'm just, I almost feel bad that you even go in the first place because you're like, I'm sick of this. I got to leave.
It's not similar to that. I have this weird thing.
I guess when I go to a place
and I meet everybody
I don't want to stick around
I want to say hi
unless there's somebody
I generally know
and can talk to
but let's say for something
like Pico Day
I was the first one out
for everybody
and the reason is
because once I say hi
to everybody
and I've already drink
and I'm on that point
where I'm buzzed
I don't feel like
I could last much longer
like I'll either be passed out
somewhere in my room
where someone would steal my shoes
or I would fucking
like just be so drunk
that I would be out of control
and I don't want to do that.
Corey, when you're around people, do you, like,
does your energy get drained? Yeah.
Pretty quickly, when I'm around new people.
That's like, that's introvert.
Yeah, it might be.
Other people are the opposite. The more people that are around,
it's like they're sucking their power in, like, Goku.
It definitely fucking drains me.
It absolutely drains me.
No, I'm the same way, and I'm the same way.
It drained, like, I was at Pico Day for six hours.
I was there. I saw everybody.
I missed a few, and then I was gone,
and I wasn't coming back.
As much as people would think Zach as an introvert, I actually see, I feel like when there's a lot of people around and Zach's getting some attention, he's like a solar panel.
He does, he just absorbs it and he gets more excited.
It's only because I get nervous.
It's a defense mechanism.
I'm in the same way.
I always feel like when I meet the people, I'm always a little bit more out there just so it's like, fuck you.
You know what a fucker?
Don't like me.
I don't care.
I don't get, fuck you.
I expect them to not like me when I first meet them.
It's different.
So I'm purposely a little bit over, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
I'm kind of exaggerate version of myself.
So it's like, you don't like me.
I don't expect you like me.
I don't expect you like me.
You know what I mean?
It's a defense because I'm built up
and people not liking you for a work time.
I'm not a jerk, but it's like,
I'm not like, hey, you know, hey, dickhead.
But I'd be like, I don't know,
I feel like I'm a little more energetic, so
I'm almost an exaggerated version of myself,
so it's like, if you don't like this exaggerated version of me,
fuck you.
It's almost like I make people not like me a purpose
because they expect them to anyways.
It's what, it's not.
I don't go out of my way to be in.
you're a dicker. I can't really describe it. It's hard to do.
So when I was younger and I was bouncing around like from Malaysia to Taiwan and Taiwan to Japan or Taiwan to Taiwan to Malaysia to Japan and then back to Seattle and then to New York, I had this thing.
I only knew people for like a couple of years at a time. So I kind of had to develop a system in order for me to determine who my friends were going to be in a very short amount of time.
So essentially what I would do is I'd go to a new place and I would just let it all fucking hang out. I would burp, fart, say whatever.
disgusting things I had on my mind, get stupid plastered drunk, you know, just basically be who I am,
you know, after you know me for a while, but immediately. And it actually, it's funny, like,
how quickly, you know, you get to know people. And there are a lot of people who aren't used to
that. Like, they need to be kind of weaned into it. So, like, a year or two would pass and they'd be
like, you know when I first met you? You're fucking ass. You were so drunk at that party,
and you were just farting on people and you were just fucking humping things.
See, I don't think of like that. I don't know.
But you know what I'm saying?
I feel like that's almost the same kind of thing in the way.
Yeah.
It's like, fuck, you.
I don't expect you like me anyways.
I'm unlikable.
I know you hate me, so I don't give a shit.
Yeah.
It's more like that.
I don't know.
I'm a fucking...
Let's make this little positive.
All right.
Okay.
How about Chris and Zach?
I'm going to kill myself.
I'm going to kill me.
This is a real threat.
This is a cry for help.
Wait, we have to do what we hate about us for each person.
No, I'm not.
We'll come back that later.
I'll come back later.
I'm not over the heck.
How about Chris and Zach?
Sorry,
Chris and Zach each compliment each other
in some way that people aren't maybe
aware of.
Something nice about each other.
I'll start. I'll go around.
Corey,
I don't care of what he says about you.
You're not a piece of shit.
You penis is average, Corey.
Don't listen to the haters.
No, you know, Corey, you're very dedicated.
You're a very hard worker.
You can sit down to work for 15 hours.
It'll be like, I haven't worked up today,
but a piece of shit.
Yeah, no.
And I'm better than.
Chris, I hate your stupid green shirt.
He pissed me out where do I see it.
They said not to be sarcastic.
Oh.
Yeah, you've already ruined it.
Fuck off.
This is what I hate about you, Chris.
Sex.
Chris, I think Chris is very, very good at thinking of original ideas.
There are things that Chris says.
How do you think of that?
I admire that.
It's creativity.
We're just thinking of such a completely new, unique idea.
It's 100% unique.
It doesn't borrow from anything.
It's just its own thing.
Thank you.
Jeff, my little boys, you know, you've grown so much over the years.
My sweet child, my little Sunshine Ray.
Yeah.
Jeff, I think you're very good at dialogue.
I think you're very good at writing stuff,
and I think you're very good at making stuff work.
All right.
I'm going to go beyond that, too.
I admire your honesty.
You're not the kind of guy who's like,
hey guys, I'm a crazy party guy.
Like, you and yourself are like, look,
I'm an emotional sack of shit.
Do I bring too many bridges
of my honesty sometimes?
No, but I...
You keep the ones that are worth...
It's not bad, honesty.
You know, there's two kinds of people,
there's the kind of people who are like,
I'm really honest, and then they say what they shouldn't say,
it's like, yeah, you still have to realize a lie, you idiot.
Like, you're not stupidly honest.
Like, there's one that's real, yeah, I'm honest,
and you see a guy, you're like, yeah, you're back,
you get away.
It's like, what I'm honest.
You're not that kind of guy who says that.
I'll lie when I have to.
That's what I mean.
That's what I mean. You draw the line
what it's supposed to be.
All right.
Okay.
Mick.
Mick.
Let's move on.
All right.
Let's move on.
Wait, wait.
We can't just have one person.
No, let me tell you about Mick.
It's, it's, it's, it's, I feel like Corey and Mick are hard workers, but in their own different ways.
Corey will sit down like, like a, like a, like a, like a psycho and work on the same thing for whatever.
But Mick, he's a multitasker.
He can't believe.
He walks into the opposite.
He's tweaking out.
He's like, yeah, man, I got to do this, this and this today.
I got to do 45 things today.
and you know whatever else
and he's still
not a piece of shit
that's the cocaine though
thanks man
and most people
most people would be bitter
fucking serial killers
I did a lot of
if they did
the much of work you did
I did a lot of coke
can I say what I admire
a lot
yeah can I say what I admire
no wait wait wait wait one sec
Mick
you can't just say that
move on
if I was
okay
if you were to offer me cocaine
no if I was to say
Mick build me a sand cows out of
Cocaine, how big would the sandcastle be that you've done in your life?
That I've done in my life?
Yeah.
It wouldn't be that big.
Yeah, but how big...
I don't know, it'd probably be like...
My whole life.
Everything that's gone up my nose.
A sand castle.
I don't know, maybe like...
One of these days...
Oh, that's petite.
One of these days we're going to get to the bottom,
the mix of stairs past.
I don't have a mysterious...
I don't know about that.
We're going to figure out you killed some in Malaysia or something.
My...
I've done coke before, but I've only done it once.
And that was when I was already...
doing Molly. So once you do Molly
and then you do Coke, you're like, yeah, Molly's better.
Yeah, but your nose is still about it this day.
I'll tell you what? It's only if you're
like, s'm morning, and half dead bodies.
How about, like, Mick, Corey and Chris, I'll each pick
like two people or something. We'll move on to the next
question or something. Is this going forever?
I'll just go, I'll go through really quick.
Yeah.
Corey, I like how
little of a shit you give about
anything negative that anyone will ever
say about you. You can never say anything
negative. It bounces off you, like you're made of rubber
and they're made of glue.
Sticks and stone.
Mm-hmm.
A little bit different than what...
Okay.
What?
Zach.
Oh, that's kind of the hot.
Zach, I am genuinely baffled by how...
Autistic?
Yeah.
No, but no.
You're ruining it.
Zach, I'm amazed by how little of a...
Or have...
What's the word?
Have tiniest penises.
No, listen.
Zach is so selfless financially.
He will be negative in the mind.
negative in the money and he'll still go out of his way to buy you something at the store.
He's ridiculous.
Jeff, you are a lombering shit.
Ableist.
I like how blunt and honest you are no matter what and it helps people at the end of the day,
even though it's kind of mean.
I was about to say if there's someone at a party who's like pissing people up,
you will not stay quiet.
You will say you're being a fucking loser dickhead and then they'll never do it again because you did that.
Are there any helpful critiques for like that actually helped the person,
not just me being an asshole. That is helpful because they never did it again. They became a better person.
I think this is making me look bad. No, it's good. No, trust me. Mick, I like how, uh...
I like how yellow your skin can be in the sun. Thank you. Okay. No, I like how nice, Mick is the end.
Okay, I feel, I feel a warm and fuzzy. Like, I need to give off...
Corey, but he's got the warm and fuzzy. They can see if he's all these...
Yeah, Corey, Corey, you're super dedicated me? Oh, you're fucking, Corey.
No, it's Corey's super-dicated.
dedication, great animator, Zach,
you have a huge caliber
in terms of like your quality control
and you always like do what you
have to to get to that. Chris, literally
I don't know if there's any medium that you
could pick up that you couldn't be great at.
You just seem to pick shit up all the time.
Yeah, and Jeff, I think you're
easily one of the best artists and not only
that, but the speed at which you kick out shit
is kind of semi-autistic
and that's... I'm not fast.
But you know what? Stamper's not here. Stamper is
easily, I mean, he's also a jack of all
trades. Should we all say something nice about
Stamper? Sure. He's easily one of the most
generous guys I know. He's absolutely the most
like Zach, he'll
spend, he'll give, like he'll just
It's crazy. He'll just... He doesn't even know
you. He doesn't necessarily have the money, but he'll give somebody
just like 200 bucks. Like here, this is the help
you do whatever you need to do here.
Absolutely. All right, that was gay.
What I was gay.
What I want to go. Oh, okay, you want to go.
Yeah, I said what I hate about Jeff.
And then he said,
Like,
he just figured you were full of hatred.
Okay.
What I moderately are annoyed by.
Yeah, yeah.
Wait, I thought this was.
No, he did this for you.
No, no, I didn't say what I liked.
Oh.
Zach, what I like about you is I like how methodical you are with what you say.
Like, you don't just spit shit out.
You have a lot of stuff to back it up.
So you're not a shit talker.
You're a talker that can dish out shit.
He's eloquent with his argument.
Yes.
You're very, like, you would never go up to someone and be like,
hey, you wouldn't just say shit
about someone, you would have shit to back it up.
So I like that you're...
I like that you're...
That's why you can write at tutorials
because you know all this shit.
Chris,
God damn it.
Everyone's already said everything
I went to say about you.
But it's like, Chris, I love how
bro you are.
You're like the best bro.
I'm a bra.
I can pretty much talk to you.
I can talk to you about fucking anything.
So it's like, I have like no worries
so I can like share my
secrets and shit and I have nothing to worry about.
You know what one of Chris's things that he didn't
like about you was, that you never shut up and you keep
talking to him. Yeah, that's true.
You're pissing about everything. Corey, I never want to hear
your voice again. I understand.
This is a joke you should actually die.
I mean... No, Corey, I greatly
appreciate all that. Yeah. I like sitting in
our little tents that we make out of her bed sheets.
I know. And like, discuss...
And kiss each other on the belly. Yeah, kiss each other.
Swaps to him.
Swapsed saliva.
Tell spooky stories. Talk about
Oh, and Jeff.
Yeah.
Like, I guess it's not really with art, but I love how, like, again, it's like you're, it would be a lot like, Zach.
You're very committed to what you do.
And you're also, like, just the amount of sheer detail you focus on stuff.
Like, it's not enough that it's just moving.
You focus on the little things that people would forget.
Yeah.
The kind of stuff that people appreciate but don't remember.
I should take that on.
Jeff will draw things like in stuff where you'll, you'll, you'll freeze for him.
You're like, God damn, Jeff.
You put, like, 10 hours to do this thing?
Someone's going to see for one second.
I know.
And it's, like, it's appreciated.
Because that's, like, something I appreciate.
There's art, you know, I'd say, you know, there's plenty of artists that are like that.
Like, stampers like that.
Guy.
Guy, God we met recently, Red Minus.
Great guy.
He's like that, too.
Like, we're super, like, I'm not going to call us all autistic or something, but we're super OCD with.
Well, that's good.
Details.
Yeah.
Maybe almost, too.
I don't know if it affects us negatively where we spend too much time on things.
Because it's worth it.
And I understand.
saying that because I'm a perfectionist. I do something
over and over. And then when I release it, I'm like, oh,
it looks bad. I got to redo it sometime in the future.
Nick.
What I appreciate the most about you
is how much of a community man
and how you can hold something together.
Like, you're the glue in any bind.
Like, without you, we would be fucking lost
and probably, like, eating, like,
shit out of the toilets. Moving on.
Flamboldt asks,
one of the most notable things about your collective
comedies, how far it pushes boundaries.
Yeah. I really enjoy that about your podcast,
and everything you guys do.
Here's the question.
Where do you personally draw the line?
Is there something so offensive?
You won't make fun of it.
And, or is there something that offends you in comedy?
Mick, why don't you start this off?
I'll just say this really quick.
I love everything that you guys do.
I don't always, it's not like I would use the word retard or the N-word.
That's because you're a fucking retard.
Yeah.
I prefer not to use some of these words or make some of these jokes myself, but I don't judge.
anyone who does, unless I feel like it's extremely malicious.
I don't feel like you guys are ever particularly malicious about it.
What if it's a retarded N-word being malicious?
Then that's what they are.
If I ever do use the word retard, I use it in terms of like really being pissed off at somebody.
Like when I use that word, I literally mean, like I would obviously never call someone who's handicapped or retard.
But it's like if somebody is so...
You basically call me the left.
Would you call on?
Yeah.
Like they are so...
Like, they, to me, are truly retarded.
Like, like, the people, like, they may not have a quote-unquote mental handicap,
but as far as I'm concerned, they're worse than, I mean, they are just...
Whoa.
Would you...
No, no, no, no.
It's like they are less capable.
I would rather...
My brother-in-law has cerebral palsy, right?
Yeah.
And I would much rather have a conversation with him than a lot of other people.
They're fucking retone.
Right.
Like some guy at a bar who's, like, sitting there screaming at the television,
slapping girls' butts,
high-fiving his friends,
spitting his beer all over the bartender,
and then looking at me going,
hey, you want to fight?
It's like...
Well, make it, in my defense,
I was a little bit too much.
Also, I don't like to do rape humor
unless it's, like, clearly
light-hearted,
like, you know...
You know, there's no...
There's no, it's...
It's a very...
No, no, no, I just...
I've seen...
Look, I don't...
I just show up the tip against the rest.
I'm not going to name any names.
I'm not going to name any name,
but like, you know, there's...
She was been some...
There's been some rape humor
that has been extremely graphic
and I feel out of...
Not even remotely comical in any way.
You're saying the XD. Orsquay.
Yeah, and now when I say the word rape,
I know every...
Like, so many...
Like 90% of the people are thinking
of a man raping a woman.
That's not what I'm talking about.
And rape in no scenario is okay.
However, you know,
a bull getting raped by a tractor
is kind of funny to me.
I know that, you know...
I think it's also...
where you place the joke.
That's who?
So if you do a rape joke
where the joke isn't for shock value,
you're literally saying,
aha, this stupid Codd got rapist.
Like, that's not really...
That's not funny.
It's not funny.
But if you make the rapist,
you know,
rapist cake,
a rick introduction up,
that's funny.
You make you made rape a little funny.
What do you think is the farthest
you've gone, Mick?
As an example.
It's like the most thing you've like,
all right,
it's the farthest.
I think I've gone in the offensive.
What do you say?
Okay, that was far from me.
I should that way.
That's a really good question.
I don't think I've ever...
I don't really think...
You never thought you, like, you were like,
just writing a line your personal line.
You were like, ooh, that was...
That was a buzz cut.
Not, I don't think I ever...
I don't think I ever really do that.
I guess, like, the worst thing I possibly did
was way back when I made a cartoon,
it was about...
It was a pacifist's fighting game.
And I think I had Gandhi
and then, like, a bunch of cops come
and beat him with batons
until he's dead.
And then it's like,
you die.
You?
win or whatever.
I don't know, but like,
I think that was about the worst.
That's where you were like, oh, I shouldn't have done that.
No, you know what, even then I wasn't like I shouldn't have done it,
but that was about as far as I personally
pushed it, I think.
That sounds like a good mobile game.
Yeah, but I've been a part of plenty
of projects that definitely,
mostly your guys' projects,
fucking some cancer boy
falling on his, on his tumor.
All right, look.
Exploating.
A Pokemon cartoon, I would never live down,
and
the other, the game I made with a swain called Chingchang Beautiful, that's another one.
Oh, I love that game.
That game's largely not that bad besides the name, but there are a few little details.
Like, like, one of the stages actually takes place in the crater, it takes place in the crater, it takes us in a map, it's where, like, Nagasaki is on it.
Sweet dude.
There's a few lines of dog on there that are really, I think Swain, like, said something.
This had nothing to do with me.
I'm like, here, record some shit.
He had his friend record a line
calling the characters in the game
zipper heads. Holy fuck.
If anybody wants to know why you call people
a zipper head. It's when you run over their head with a
tank and it leaves a tread in their head
like a zipper.
I can know that. Don't laugh. That's not funny.
The more you know.
Yeah, the more you know.
Did something soldiers share with each other?
Chris, I don't know, would you like to
go over this question?
I mean,
I've made my
shitty, edgy fumers.
cartoons back in the day.
Yeah.
I remember your swastika
neo-Nazi Christmas thing.
That's not even that bad. It's not that bad. It's just a guy
coding a swastika. That got banned in Germany.
Did it really? Yeah, it still is.
It's just a fucking swastika.
Yeah, it's just a fucking swastika.
Like, the worst shit I've ever made was
fucking slightly rapy things.
I don't think any humor
is out of boundaries as long as it's clear
you're not being malicious and there's funny
context to it.
The one point I sort of like to go is just big me to people.
specifically, like, you can, you can, like, make fun of, like,
progenia or cancer or something, but if you're, like, going after...
When you single out somebody who is good-hearted, they have no reason to be
in a situation there are, and you call them out for it and make a joke about that.
Just for personal shit they can help us, like, well, what are you fucking...
Like, I don't know, like, I don't know, yeah, just...
Yeah, like...
It's what I... It's the same way.
Lewis CK, right? Louis C.K. is, like, one of the liberal fucking heroes of comedy,
and yet, like, when he's talking about...
about his own daughter, it's like, yeah, my daughter's a fucking
retarded, cunt, you know, and like
everyone laughs. They're not retarded, though.
I mean, like, in a sense where it's like, if you, there's
like a bird dick, and you're like, oh, man, you're fucking
defour him. That's not funny at all.
One of his funniest bits, I mean,
he was on the opening Anthony show.
When he explains the word nigger, where it came from?
With Patrice O'Neill, who's like the blackest
blacked ever. And it's hilarious.
Yeah, Patrice has explained that where the word
kite came from, he's actually telling the audience.
Yeah, Kikel. Right.
And Louie's like, you know,
the word they came about it. They saw some guy to be a nigger.
He was just a feeling
He's like, he was just being such a nigger
Yeah
But any other comedian who said
Like if any of
But I mean like
Like Patrice is actually a good example
I saw a roast he was on
Where they were like making about his diabetes
I was like that funny
This is a kind of that's mean spirit
They weren't mean
Have you ever seen a good roast
No but my point is when you see
With somebody up or something
I fucking hate them
I do too
Roasts
It's like it's the same
So try hard
like bullshit. It's like
what it always feels like a roast
is, it always feels like they're like
they're hoping to steal the show up on stage.
Yeah, everyone is taking a shot at trying
to steal the show. I think he could
make fun of somebody for making a bad decision
or saying something or doing something stupid,
but if you make somebody like for what they are,
it just comes on. Like the Bob Sagitt, like
there was, I think there were a few
funny things about Bob Saggett and his past with
drugs. To be fair, Bob Saggett,
he's done a lot of awful shit. Yeah, it's
true. Not just his like drugs,
or his like full house, like, he's made some terrible shit.
Yeah.
But I don't think anything's off limits.
As long as you, look, the two most important things.
I would say the most, actually, there's one important thing.
There's one important thing and one kind of important thing.
The most important thing is intent.
If you are saying something with the intent of making somebody laugh and not say it to be hurtful.
Right.
And it doesn't land.
Like, if you make a rape joke, but you're trying to listen laughter and there'll be laughs.
I don't think you're trying.
trying to be funny. That should be important.
You're saying intent and context.
Context is the second important thing, but I think intent
is the biggest. If you
say like, oh, you should get raped, like
a rape victim.
You're intending to elicit some kind of upset reaction.
That's not trying to make anybody laugh.
What do you think of the amount of people out there who really can't even,
don't even understand the difference in that?
They get mad on the internet. People like to be offended.
Yeah, that's true. There's people legitimately
don't understand. They'll fish for ways to be
offended and the users against
Well, and the thing is, too, you'll see,
I got to a fucking argument with somebody
on Twitter, of all places,
you know, I was sure that's never happened before,
an argument on Twitter who knew?
And the person was talking about rape jokes,
but they also like it's always sunny Philadelphia.
And I showed him one of the most popular
always sunny bits, which was, the character was Dennis
and the character Mac, they bought a boat,
and they're like, they're buying stuff with the boat,
and the character Dennis is talking about, you know,
taking the woman out, you know,
we should get like a mattress for the boat.
He was like, why?
Because, like, how of you,
you want to take him on the boat?
And they can't refuse
because of the vacation.
And he goes to this weird thing
and it's like, you know,
a woman, what, you know,
they can't, what are they going to say?
No one of the middle of nowhere.
And it's pretty much a rape joke.
Yeah.
And I showed it to the guy.
I was like, what do you think it out?
He's like, you know, that's funny.
I was like, see,
laughed at a rape joke.
I think the issue is people
draw their lights everywhere.
There's no consistent objective
line up for what's a good rape joke,
what's a bad rape joke.
No, yeah, yeah.
And even if you don't like
No jokes before they left in a black joke.
They left a abortion joke.
That's my whole class joke.
That's exactly what I'm talking about, the Lewis CK thing, about racism jokes, where people
are like, there are no good, like it's never over.
That's never, you can never funny.
What about this thing?
Yeah, exactly.
You can never use that word to make a joke.
There's also a very famous, very, very funny, very famous skit with S&L skit with
Chevy Chase.
Oh, yeah.
Richard Pryor.
Oh, yeah.
Absolutely.
Yes, I have.
Of course I have.
It's basically.
Chevy Chase is like a guy hiring somebody.
He's like, let's play a word.
I'll tell you a word and you say what you think.
First he comes a word.
He's like, dog, cat, stop.
Yeah, then it gets, yeah, then it grows.
Yeah, then he's like black.
He's white.
Tar baby.
Yeah.
Jungle buddy.
He's just niggering.
He's like, hockey.
He's like, dead hockey.
Yeah, dead hockey.
Yeah, it's a funny bit.
But they made that word of funny.
They made that word, they put in the context
when it was funny and it was appropriate.
The joke wasn't just a big thing.
To be fair, and to be clear, when we say funny,
I think it's important to remember that I'm not saying
The word itself is in fun, look
Well, no, no, I'm not saying that I think when I was talking about Lucy K.
When we're talking about this too, when we're saying it's funny,
what I mean is it's accepted by a general populace as being funny
By left, you know, by very liberal-minded people
Who are finding a lot of these jokes funny
If you were to like say, like you can't make rape jokes,
You shouldn't be able to make jokes about anything because
You know what bugs bunny gets it? Where do you draw the line? He gets hit on the head with a hammer, right? Yeah
There's at least like 50 people in the past whose faces have been smashed in with hammers and their family's lives have been ruined
But you don't see them saying like stop making videos about hammers
They're probably some people do though
Yeah now especially but it's like come on you can't do that
Like you know the new Popeye the new Popeye design that they were teasing
He didn't have any tattoos and he doesn't smoke a pipe
Yeah he looks like he looks like a fucking little Abercommy hipster
Somebody somebody is saying like oh maybe it's like a prequel but I almost don't think that was it
I think there was something else going on there.
No, it's politics.
They don't want to promote smoking
and they don't want to promote tattoos.
The new, uh, the new Popeye design.
He's wearing, like, his fucking, like,
converse and it's, like, they dropped that movie anyway.
Yeah, I think he only did that to a show to the producer.
Yeah, it was just like a teaser or something.
But still, can I say something?
Because it kind of goes with all you guys were saying.
Sure.
Um, I feel like what it comes down to is,
uh, I think one of the things that makes something funny
is when it's off limits.
because it's like you
when you listen to a joke and it's an offensive
joke you in your mind if it's funny
you laugh at it because you know it's offensive
but you're aware that it's
joking like it's and I think that's
where jokes come from like if you make a rape joke
and like it has a malicious intent
then it's not funny because your brain tells
you like this joke is meant to be
and it's like that's
not funny and it's like when someone does
a comedy bit
and they talk about the topic you know
in your head like oh he's making a racist
joke. The joke is racist
but it's clearly not intangent
that's why most of the time when you hear racist
jokes, it comes from a black person
or a Chinese person or a
Indian person and when you see jokes like
obese jokes it comes from
the fat person. It's almost like it's
okay because I'm that. I hate that shit though.
I can touch that. Humor comes from
discomfort. Look, look
a good
you're not going to find anybody
who says rape is funny. I seriously
believes it. We're 9-11 or the Holocaust.
or cancer.
Sure.
None of the...
The world is full of things
that seriously are not funny,
they're horrible.
Life is pretty horrible
if you look at it.
Like, if you really look at it...
Sure.
It's got a lot of very bad things.
If you can take something like that
and take a subject to everyone goes,
ooh, they kind of freeze up about it,
and you can make something funny out of that.
That's, I think,
that's the best kind of comedy.
Because you can tell a joke about,
hey, you can tell a joke about fucking corny.
You can tell a joke about shoes.
You can tell all kinds of jokes.
But you can make a funny 9-11 joke.
9-11 is honestly the least funny thing
to ever happen. It's fucking disgusting.
Nothing about that's funny. But
nothing about anything is funny. If you
could make death or alcoholism or AIDS
or cancer, if you can find a humor
in that, I think that's, there's
a beauty. What it does is it allows
for a conversation to take place. And by the way,
you're not laughing at the subject.
Right. You're saying, holy, you're using
that subject as a
foundation, you tell a joke, as a
springboard. Right. You're not making
it a joke. You're not saying, look,
rape is funny.
People be forcibly, you know,
raped and traumatized.
That's funny.
No, you're not saying that.
You're saying,
this is a disgusting subject.
What's see,
what's if we can,
if we can find anything funny about,
not about this,
but with this,
as a cradle,
as a bowl.
And then we'll fill the inside
with soup,
joke soup.
No,
and I honestly think that it opens up
conversation.
Like that Richard Pryor...
Yeah, absolutely.
Like that scene,
it's like, by not talking about it
and by acting like it's off limit,
I don't think it
it doesn't open up a dialogue about it
doesn't open up understanding about it
it doesn't and I think the
the drawback though is that you get a lot of people
who don't understand context
who don't understand empathy
who don't have experience
so then they just take the joke part of it
without the actual substance part of it
they hear the malicious they think you're the malicious
and they think that's the funny part
and they just roll with that.
It's like oh you're laughing
did you know people get raped in real life
it's like okay
I also think I also think
humor is
therapeutic in a way
comedy about
jokes like that
are funny
and I also
like one of my favorite
comedians ever
is Norm MacDonald
that guy can make anything
funny
if you watch this special
he did the whole thing
about
alcoholics and out of us
he did a bit about
his dad dying
of a heart attack
yeah
like these things
are just not funny
but he somehow
made them funny
he did a whole thing
about
funny as he has a podcast
he did the thing
about 9-11
yeah
so he somehow made
he made a fucking
breast cancer
angelina joe
july
getting your tits
cut off for breast cancer
he somehow
turned that into a funny thing
that is the least funny thing ever
he somehow made a laughter
come out of that
not of that but out of that
so to summarize
nothing's up limits
and I think I've gotten over
I think I speak of all of people
when I say I've gotten over
this one of the worst of my life
from laughing at it
finding the funny stuff in it
yeah
if you look at comedians
I'm not putting myself in that group
I'm saying look at comedians
a lot of them are very depressed people
with whom
it's the way of dealing with shit
and I think that's true for a lot of people
It's cathartic in a way
It is
All right
The last thing I would say would be
I don't know I linked it on my Twitter
But I just want to say
I linked a debate between
Comedian Jim Norton and this lady
Who was debating
Whether things like rape jokes
Or so were funny
And throughout the course of the video
This woman made like rape jokes
Like technically rape jokes
Jokes that involved rape
But she wasn't even thinking
she wasn't realizing. She was doing, but the whole time she was like making jokes about
racism, things like that. But she was doing it like in a mocking way, but it still got laughs.
Right.
But we're still rape jokes, though. She still told the red joke that got laughs.
Right. That's the point. To draw these arbitrary lines, these things go, well, this is a red joke,
well, that's not a red joke. You can't do that, man. You can't draw the line where you think,
I mean, you can, but you look like an idiot if you're laughing at this and this and that. But not
that, that, that's not funny.
She was making observations that other people were able to find humor out of, and whether
she was doing it. Yes, and she was, and didn't you do it, and she didn't realize it. Right. And that,
look, that's a joke. If you can make people laugh, then you told the joke.
I don't understand how, like, you know, like, oh, you can't make rape comedy jokes,
but you can make jokes about cancer. And it's like, isn't that? That's my point. It's either,
you know, there's a famous quote by either Tray Park or Redso or forgot who said it, but
everything's okay or nothing's okay. Exactly. There's no point. If you're going to cut the line up here,
then cut the line up there and you're being unfair at that point. Nothing's up limits.
That's basically how I feel about it. Personally, like,
if I really wanted to dig deep and start making,
like I take a context of what's offensive
and start making a well-written joke around it,
which would actually be a pretty good idea
to try and make a cartoon around an offensive topic,
see if I could pull it off.
But that's neither here nor that.
None of us ever go out and go,
who could we affect today?
What can we say that's crazy today?
No, I used to be like that when I was an obnoxious faggot.
Well, every kid, every kid, could you kind of grow out of that with you?
Well, that's what I mean when I was an obnoxious faggotty.
Yeah, I can't, you know, even if we,
I'll say it like this.
Even if a joke we tell is shocking
Doesn't mean we stand up towards to shocking
It doesn't mean it's a shocking joke
And this is something too because I just said it faggot
Like that's people are offended
They're like because the you know the gray area between gay and annoying
And it's like when I use faggot as a term
I use it like a little shit
A little annoyance
Like a fucking like
You know something that's pissing you off
I'm never like
It's not a derogatory statement to gay people
And that's like something again like
There's so many things to be offended about
Why worry about a joke?
It's like you could be offended about things that actually matter.
I don't know. Do you guys want a silly question?
Yeah, let's go silly.
Moakix asks if you could make an extinct dinosaur,
if you could, sorry, if you could make an extinct dinosaur exist today,
what would it be?
If you could bring back something back from the dead.
Anything?
Anything.
Anything alive?
Anything that cockroach.
A corosaurus.
Something that's extinct, dumbass.
It's real.
I'm going back in Andrews.
A corisaurus.
A coris.
like a human like thing but not
a human. Do you speak we can make him slaves and fuck
him and stuff? Perfect.
Next question. Wait, hold
on. Sorry, go ahead. Can I have two?
Okay.
Well, is this like the super, it's like the
superhero question, are you like?
Yeah. Because I have a landry.
You're greedy, Corey. Yes, I want that.
And I want
Water Dragon.
And, Corey, the Water Dragon
is dead. It's never coming back.
They're in hell. No, I can bring it back.
The Water Dragon is never going back.
One's land, one's water.
No.
Corey, the wild dragons were
fucking killed right from the solar
nuisancees.
Understand?
Water dragons, there's just
big platypus in the sea.
They're like dodo birds and lizards.
All right. I don't know, Mick, did you want to
contribute it if you just... No, no, they gave...
Water dragon was also my answer. Okay.
All right, me too. Just water dragons.
You all think of water dragons. Like, the only extinct
animal I can think of are the most common.
Like, you know,
a dodo bird. That's the one.
that everyone always remembers, and then there's like
the fucking, the ones that evolve,
like the saber-tooth tigers and shit,
and just dinosaurs. I'd be fighting with brannosaurus
because they were, they were vegetarians
and they were herbivores
and they were fairly gauze. Was you really put back a vegetarian?
No, no. Yes, I'm not going to bring
back a fucking T-Rex to come in
just wreck havoc. Get one of those little ones that
like run on their hind legs. You can have it as
your pet. Carry around in a... What about
Galapod? Yeah, what about those?
I don't even need to see... I don't even need to see land
animals. They're all kind of like big chickens anyway. I'll
take like a teradactyl or some kind of sea
creature, some kind of gigantic shore.
Yeah, sure. You can have a land animal
and a sea creature, which is the galapod.
Yeah, see, I have a water dragon
and a corisaurus. A cori saurus by the way.
Corey Soros versus the Galapod, who wins?
Corey Soros is smash him. He's got a big dome.
They have these huge domes on the front of their heads.
The Corey Sores is just a dinosaur dragon.
The core source has a fucking dome on its feet.
It's just a dinosaur that's Corey's face.
Yeah.
I don't know if you got, I don't know if you guys
like touching on how I'll shit YouTube
algorithms are, but I don't know if we
want to cover that again. I went into a little
bit on Twitter. I just want to say, I just want to say something to with you
when you're done. Okay, I just wanted to say
that, a lot of people, originally, this is kind of the way for something
happened. Everyone's started doing cartoons. Then you realized you can make money to do it.
Oh, wow. Then you started making more money. Then you said,
okay, and it started to come here and job after the way.
This is over the course of like a few years.
Yeah, then after a while, it turns out
we started to lose money. Okay, that's fine.
we started to figure out
kind of think out loud, okay, this is happening, how do we
fix this? This is just a heads up.
And then there was this reaction for the public, like, oh, fuck you,
you what, you think you deserve money for your cartoons,
you really fuck? I was like, all right, I'll move
on then, I'll do something that actually
gets me real money. I'll go, either
go to a studio job, move the traditional
stuff, whether that's TV or film,
and then there was a bigger outlash
and back, like you start, oh, you lazy, fuck,
you don't make cartoons anymore? You don't get the
best to both worlds. You either,
look, when you said, get, when people
the people who said get a real job for years
when we got real jobs
though you fucking lazy bastards
you don't get the best of both worlds
I feel like and that's something that
I could explain
like over and over
but it's like the thing is
the way the system used to be
and the way it is now is specifically
catering to a certain kind of
like not demographic but style
of videos the way the system is
now is view time
amount of a video
and minutes watch.
So there's like three factors that affect that video now.
And even then so...
Consistency, your...
Yeah, yeah. And there's a second factor,
which not many people know about it,
but it is on the radar at this point,
and I think more people should know about it,
is a term called subscriber burn,
which is based on how many people actually do those three things of the video,
and how many people, like,
let's say you skip a video, you don't watch a video,
and that video goes by
and you don't pay attention to it
and you wait from to upload another one.
Well, the problem is
if you skip that video,
the YouTube system is like,
okay, he doesn't want to see that video.
So it's automatically taken out of your
what to see feed
and replaced with some other bullshit
for you to see.
And the problem happens
is it starts reading out all your subscription
so you have to manually go to stuff
because the new system,
it's like, you know,
people used to make millions of views back then
and they upload a video
and get 13,000 views.
Yeah.
It's because they've completely been
burned off the radar and when they release
something they need either word of mouth
from Reddit or they need boosts
from people they know that are popular
and that's how the new system is it caters
to and the way let's play videos are
not to continue is
it perfectly
engulfs that concept like
you upload a video you want to see the next
part so you sit through the whole video
and you get all the minutes watched
you can set your runtime to like specifically
how long they want which is typically
10 minutes and it
exactly caters to the system
and I heard now the recently changing
where you have to make a minute at least if you're an animator
to even make a proper CPM
and because of that it's like
okay here's a fucking job I do
every day where I get paid
and get
I get paid at the end of a month
and I even have enough to spend money on shit
or here's a job where I can barely
make enough rent and it takes me like fucking six
years to do one thing and the community
is shit to begin with so it's not even
worth the payoff yeah you work like a
fucking dog and then they still treat you like
people are like oh it took you the song where's my next one
it's like a lot of the move on then I actually
fuck you man exactly I think one of the bigger problems
it's not even YouTube anymore
it's actually become like Facebook and
other other things because like with let's plays
or live action videos you see
the people in it you hear the people in it
you know they made that content
but when it comes to cartoons a lot of times
people don't know who actually
animated they don't know who's voicing
in it so people rip them they cut out
the credits and they fucking repost it
it up to like Facebook or something to get the attention.
Facebook has like the worst recording system.
And Imigur or whatever but like or Imager or
imager whatever like the Pac-Man cartoon that I did
has more views on
Facebook and Imager than it like three times
as many views than it does actually on YouTube.
So more people have seen this cartoon
have no fucking idea about the people
actually involved with it than you know what I mean?
And they just think that the person who uploaded it is involved.
Because like it's sort of steals a lot of action video
it's like oh I know who this guy's over.
No, that's what I'm saying. Animation is the perfect thing to steal, and it's why they keep doing it, because they just lop off the credits and try to take credit for it.
There was that one, like, fat idiot who, like, used to make, like, truffle-shuffle videos and steal your leviosa.
He had, like, he got 90,000 followers on Facebook in, like, a week from your leviosa videos.
Like, hey, make more of that, make more of that video.
Yeah, he was like, I made this.
It's pretty sweet, right?
Yeah, he's like, yeah, you're great.
Waiting for you to upload more so you can fucking steal it.
I don't know what happened.
I stopped paying attention to him, but you would see videos of me.
He's like silly fat kid dances and he would just be like pulling his shirt up showing his tits.
And everyone laughed and be like, man, I found you through the Leviosa video.
You're so funny.
That's some goonies, by the way.
Yeah, no, I know, no.
That's what you call like a fat kid shaking his tittings.
It's a trouble, trouble, him.
Should we move on?
Yeah.
We have a bunch of questions.
I don't know if you got.
I've actually made videos about my feelings about YouTube.
Oh, yeah.
I don't need to talk more than.
Can I see one last thing, though?
Just one last thing.
Realistically, though, the kind of stuff I'm doing with Jeff, I would wrap.
rather have my name on over spending ages on something that I'll put on YouTube.
I feel YouTube is more of an archive thing, but I feel like the thing I'm doing now
is more like something. I'd be like, yeah, I'd help do that.
And it was well worth it.
I'd still like to make animations and put them out there.
But I would like to not be on, I would like not to be on somebody's fucking to-do list.
Like, it's like, okay, you have to do this for me before I kick my bucket.
Maybe I've done this game, I'll make some more.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I think after doing three-minute videos for,
five plus years
I kind of
in the mindset now
I just want to make
like 20, 30 minute videos
you can't do that
on YouTube
I don't mean to keep going
but it's like
another thing that bothers me
and it's like
you guys
we all get this
it's like
if you don't animate
people are just like
oh they don't animate
anymore
it's like just because
we don't upload stuff
online
doesn't mean we're not
animating
I think it's the biggest
thing
people assume
that it's because
we're not making
videos
we're doing anything
we're doing more stuff
animation
is like
seriously 5%
I'm animated
I think I'm gonna do.
Every fucking day for like eight hours.
And then I find time for other stuff,
but I still always go back to it every single fucking day.
It's like I'm not just like taking breaks.
I've always,
I think the best thing anybody can do is look at YouTube,
look at the internet as a stepping stone and not a fucking bed.
Yeah, treat it like the Bible.
Honestly, now with the patrons and with the commissions that I have,
YouTube is basically a dumping ground for me.
Exactly.
That's all it is.
Exactly.
I mean, if I have a cute little idea,
I want to fucking fart out.
Yeah, I'll absolutely put it there.
But for the most part, the things that I'm making,
I'm making with my patrons,
with, you know, the commissions that I have,
and hopefully there are things that I can share as well on the channel.
But then also, then, you know, I don't want to say it on here,
but then there's other opportunities that I've been exploring
that are more television-based.
And I love to share, you know, whatever I can with that.
And it's also like, it's not so much that I'm done animating.
It's like I'm done with YouTube.
I would rather focus on Sleepy Cabin or my own shit.
I'm not focusing on YouTube.
I want to do stuff for this, do stuff with you guys.
It's like, I don't want to have to worry about making a silly cartoon for, like, someone who's, like, for a community who just fights for the funniest comments.
YouTube goes out of their way to ignore animators.
Yeah, no, absolutely.
Unless you're, like, verified and they know who you are.
Just so sad.
You get a fucking gold star.
It's so sad.
These people, these animators, they put in so much fucking effort.
Yeah, there's a lot of really good animators.
They don't have to be such uncaring cunts.
Like, they could do something to help an animator.
outfit. I mean, it's Google.
They're a multi-billion dollar company. They don't fucking care.
They could help out the animators in their own way.
They could, yeah. But it's funny, like, I would ever complain
about myself or any of us, but the truth is
there are people that have it so much worse.
People who put in more time than us
who make longer... Absolutely. Who are fucking,
you know, they graduate from Goebbels
or whatever, and they're, you know, getting
like a thousand views. Would it make YouTube
more attractive if there was just, if they just
encouraged a little more variety
to stuff? I said, I don't know if they care. It would be
better if there was two systems. There was one
specifically for the kind of stuff like where you can get content out a lot and then like an artsy side where it's like it focuses
So there's like two sides. There's an art side and then there's like the really video side
You know what they're gonna go for the money. They're always gonna go for the money
The gaming is like taking over YouTube just like Twitch like Twitch like Twitch used to also have Justin TV
Well guess what they drop Justin TV and then they just had Twitch that's exactly what I mean
And then you couldn't even animate on Twitch I would say that
But at the point of me saying that I would be on my LSD trip
Like fucking like going through visions of my head
They're coming out of my head
I'm just like wouldn't this be great?
Oh man let's go back in time
Where everything was good again
And it's like it's not gonna happen
They see the numbers
They see numbers
They they and that's what they go for
They could not give a rat's ass
How much time and effort
And care you put into something
They want their money
The end
If anything, it's not even
There's gonna be a second system
It's that they're weeding out the bullshit
They're like okay
You don't you don't make our requirements
You're gone
These guys make our requirements
That's why we get money
you guys fucking come in.
You're like, it's like a kid.
It's like, um, it's like a thing where it's like,
someone does a really good, like,
that they come in and they like have all this stuff to present.
And then they're like, but they're, um,
you know, they're not as cool.
So it's like, you're just like, uh,
then the other, they're like really cool kid who's like,
yeah, just put this out here, you know.
Dude, in five years,
but he's rich, so you want to be his friend.
YouTube is going to be 99%, um, game footage or gameplay stuff.
It should be game.
Grinch videos.
and that's really
I feel like 95% of it
is going to be like
fucking compilations and video game games
yeah top tens and shit
news bloopers and real's tits hang it out
with 40 million views
I'm just saying
I really think that
and it might even be pretty damn close
to that right now
I think the best bet
for anybody who uses the internet
pretty much is like a portfolio
I think I don't think
the internet's quite there yet
it's it's like a
it's we're getting there
but I think at this point
you should use the internet
as a step of you still to come back
when you have a steady
job. Don't expect to make steady income
off the internet. I'm saying
there's somebody who did for a little bit, but you
can't... You mean as an animator? Well,
I guess as anybody do, because vloggers
who got their story to YouTube
who became really rich.
Like, Rayleigh of Johnson, who did equals
3, he quit his thing, but
I can't imagine his career last year, which he loved.
Do you know anybody who's not, like, non-animators
that start out well?
Personally not...
That aren't doing well now. That just totally
Oh, there's so many.
What the buck was huge on YouTube.
I trustee, Fred, all these guys.
All these guys, like, scraped like 10,000 views now.
Yeah, you see, like, Shane Dawson, who is at the top of the charts.
And you see Shane Dawson, and he's grabbing any parody you can.
Let me pose this question, which is actually 100.
How many guys can you name who started online who are actually big now in doing what they wanted to do?
And all in traditional media.
Not still online.
The only one I can name is Bob Burnham.
Yeah.
Bob Boone is the only one I can think of.
Wait, what, that does what?
That started off on YouTube, it actually moved on to what he wanted to do in traditional media.
So film...
Justin Bieber?
Hmm.
He was on YouTube.
Yeah, he was on YouTube sensation.
The annoying oranges on television, isn't it?
Cancels.
He got canceled.
He gets 10,000 views up for video, pretty much.
Who?
Oh.
Yeah.
This is kind of a different note.
I'm not going to keep going on this, but I'm going to say, like, I feel like, unless...
I'll say it like this.
If YouTube went down,
if you could find a job elsewhere,
I think those are the people who will thrive.
If you're an animator,
you have a talent,
you can do something,
you can work in a studio,
you can do whatever.
But a lot of these guys
who are vloggers who can only...
Let's players, too.
People who can only,
only, only get in the audience
if they're constantly job cutting,
those guys can't find to be actors.
They only work in that setting.
And I feel like they should recognize
that they're on a fucking timer.
The epic meal time guys,
they got like a show
but they get canceled or something.
Oh, really?
All those guys get their five minutes
fade, and maybe they do a couple of independent movies or something,
and I think they fade away.
And you see them in 10 years, it's like,
did they end up like fucking MC Hammer?
It's just that could be.
When they hit it big for a little bit,
they explode down.
My biggest, my barometer for how I like to judge it
is basically this.
When I'm an old man,
and I'm talking to like my little grand nephews or whatever,
when I explained to them what I did
during that period of time,
that they would be like,
oh, that's awesome.
Like, I can show them what I did.
And that they would appreciate it.
That I can look back and be like, I did this thing.
Rather than, like, I look back and I'm like, I don't know.
What was I doing?
That was popular at the time of whatever, you know.
So let's move on.
Next question for Chris.
Where's Demon Vault?
I don't know.
All right, next question.
Next question.
Oh, yeah, by the way, the previous question, thank Prophylaxis for that one.
Yeah, nice.
YouTube algorithm question.
I try to mix it up a bit here so that I'll get
Um
Get a lulsy one
Mick
Anywhere in Malaysia you like
Any any good places to visit
Who asked me that?
Amma
Hey I can get this
Hold on
I'm in Zamoranan
Amma Zumaradan
Radadan I don't know how to say it
Any places in Malaysia I like?
Mick what part of Malaysia did you stay in
I'm from Malaysia and would really love to know
your favorite spots back when you stayed there
Well, I went to school in Umpong.
I went to ISKL, and so I was in Kualympur.
And then when I went back in 2005, I was staying in Penang.
I don't know.
I just like Malaysia.
Southeast Asia?
So it's in Asia.
It's above Singapore.
Okay.
I didn't know.
I was thinking it was somewhere in South Korea.
You know, I really liked downtown K.L., especially when I went back.
I mean, when I was there as a kid, it was still kind of like grungy.
open sewers and shit.
But I do remember on my way to school,
there was this big reservoir thing,
and I remember a kid pulling up dead fish
from this ground river thing,
putting him in buckets and stuff.
Yeah.
But I went back in 2005, and it was pristine.
It was beautiful.
I love Malaysia.
Trista 2 asks,
what's the best advice you can give to a 17-year-old
who was about to turn 18 as a legal adult?
Use condoms.
Do you have any bad news?
Any stories about that?
Just saying to use condom.
All right.
I have advice.
This guy's still in high school, I'm assuming.
Yeah, I have advice.
So I would say, none of your life matters.
Everything before you doesn't matter.
High school, you're going to forget about within one year.
Have fun.
Yeah, don't change anything you have going on right now.
Like, continue to live off your parents and take, you know,
because I'm assuming, but I'm assuming,
but I'm assuming that they're on their parents
like, uh...
Well, they're 17 years old.
Yeah, like medical stuff so they can like go out and do like specific things that would
help him in life.
On your 21st birthday, don't drink 21 shots like an asshole.
I would say this.
If you're going to, if you're going, I just speaking where I'm experienced as friends of mine,
if you're going to school for like a teaching degree or education,
don't get caught underage drinking.
That's bad.
Yeah.
Yeah, I was going to say,
That fucks you for life.
You know, this is advice that I don't even have from my own life.
It's advice that I'm observing for new lives coming into this world.
But everything is recorded.
So don't just, you know, look, I'm not saying you need to watch out for Big Brother, though you kind of do now.
But just remember, like, if you're going to get a job, like, if you want to be a lawyer one day or you want to be anything where your credibility is critical.
It's all the line.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just don't, don't do that fucking skinny dipping.
Yeah.
Think, don't sleep, don't credit to take advantage of that drunk girl at the party.
Don't do what I did.
You know what I did?
Everything will come back.
Everything is going to come back to haunt you.
Let me tell you something very important to life.
Have good credit because it affects you in the future.
That's a real good.
I can tell you right now if you think credit is something you should ignore.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me just say from experience that I took credit for granted.
I took ages ago in 2009, I pulled it alone.
because my mom needed it, so I pulled out the loan because, like, she needed money at the time,
so I was like, okay, I'll pull it a loan.
She was paying for it, but there was a time where she just couldn't pay for it, so it's like,
okay, I'll pay for it.
But this is when I didn't have a job.
I was kind of freelance animating for, like, YouTube and shit, and it was a bill that was,
I had paid off, like, half of it, so I only owed $500.
Stupid enough, I was just like, they would send a thing.
They'd be like, you're dropping, like, you're going to be in juvenile, or not juvenile,
fugitive something for your
loan score and I was just like
I was like fucking do your worst
I'm not if I ain't paying you 500 I got shit to worry about
I got phone bills I got rent
I'm like suck my dick I haven't been at school
and fucking like four years kiss my ass I was like
oh super cool I almost thought of smoking cigarettes
so what ended up fucking happening was I tried to get
a place and I paid it off
as of recently yeah this is like a year ago
I paid it off but here
Here's a thing, you can't just pay off credit.
If you were dropping credit score, paying off something.
You have to work your score back up.
It's like, good job, you got credit.
But here's the fucking kickoff.
Like here's where it fucks you.
Once you're in the red, I don't know how you can get back from it.
Because in order to get a credit card, you have to at least be in your bills.
You need to, look, seriously, what I did, which is very stupid, which couldn't build good credit, but I didn't do this.
I paid for my car in full.
Okay.
a very, very bad idea that does
not build credit. No, you want to get a credit
card and you want to pay it off
every month. Exactly. I hate it. I hate it.
You get a car and pay the bills every month.
They need to make using
a credit card as easy as using a debit card
to encourage you to use your credit
card because I can just
pay with my debit card and it's done with
with a credit card you pay and oh, you have to
remember to go into the account and pay it off.
You don't pay that bill. You get fucked with... Or you get an angry
phone call, angry phone call from the bank. Oh, you've
I have the money to pay it off. I just forgot.
It's like, I'll fuck this. I'm just using
my debit card. So my credit probably isn't
bad, but it probably isn't good either.
It's just zero neutral.
That's the thing for me. My credit is
abysmal. And I'm not, right now
I'm working on going to the credit bureau and getting
my fucking birth certificate because I don't have that
on me. So it's
a fucking huge hassle, but it's definitely
something you should never overlook.
Never overlook your credit. It is very important
in life. If you want to get a fucking
loan, if you want to get a fucking
apartment. Even if you have the money. Because I have the money. I have first months, last month's rent,
and I have rent for days and fucking years. But the problem is it doesn't matter. You need good credit
in order to get an apartment. Another piece of advice turning 18 is to try to travel if you can.
Travel cheap. Try to find international friends that are around. You can crash on their pads or
whatever. But this is a good time to go do it before you got to hunker down and get a job and
you get roped to the ground. So while you're a chain,
is untethered, I'd say
try to travel as much as you can.
That's a really good advice. Yeah.
I'm glad I got to do a little bit of that.
Even if it's just cross-country.
Go on a trip. Go see stuff.
Go places you never went before
and if you can bring a friend
and if you can go see friends
and do all that
before you come back and go
get locked down.
Yeah. And like you said,
avoid any like stupid
felony shit. Like do what you're supposed to.
Don't commit.
If you're doing something you're not supposed to, be smart about where you do it.
Like, if you're doing quote-unquote drugs, you should do them in a place where you're not going to get caught.
Yeah.
Don't do them at the club.
Don't do them in your car.
Don't do them and then go out.
On your way to the club.
Don't be a fucking idiot.
Yeah.
If you're not supposed to do something, don't fucking do something.
Or if you do something, be smart about it.
I have a pressing question.
Okay.
from self-proclaimed sir.
Is that a real name?
Yes.
This is a birthday.
Mr. Self-Preclaim.
He came out.
What is the most important part of a sandwich?
Either the, I would, I'm talking between the meat or the cheese.
I'll tell you what.
Cheese always hangs me up because I can never decide between sharp cheddar and problone.
I'm not about you guys.
I'm doing Swiss lately.
It's always good.
The most important part of a sandwich?
What's the sandwich?
That's easy.
That's easy.
Exactly.
Chris.
Chris nailed the coffee.
He buried it and gave his mornings
Yeah, but just salad went out the bread
Exactly
You make little meat and cheese roll-ups
It's weird I don't like having like cheese and meat it's like you get the bread
You have that fucking like delicious sandwich say what you're holding it you can hold it you don't just eat fucking like you don't just mold it
I guess you could make a meat like a meat and cheese burrito but I'm telling you the bread sometimes makes a sandwich
Certain like like ingredients like certain flavors go really good at the subway and get the herb and cheese bread
Yeah
No dude
Dude the fucking
Like special bread
Like cheesy bread and stuff
Yeah that one
Herbie cheese
Oh my god
Why?
Just keep this concise
Hevni Krishna
Asked basically
Um
Alright if you were to just
Pitch a TV show again
Like say tomorrow
What would you do differently
From how you originally did it
Okay so how we originally did it was
Bentley
We went in
Fucking with our
Our body language
Was horrible for one thing
We were looking down at the floor
We were scared
You had your life
Replicate like cutouts of you
We didn't do, like, fool.
Well, I guess we kind of did.
We kind of practiced the pitch, but we didn't do it enough.
But I would say, we did a couple of these wrong.
You know, the more time goes on, the more I realize how he fucked up.
I would say, actually, the biggest thing is, don't walk in there with the ego.
Yeah.
We walked in there with that.
We didn't have any ego.
Let me clear upon.
An ego in the sense, not like I'm a big deal, but, like, in the sense, what's like, I'm not going to punch.
Is that the problem?
Was it?
You were not humble?
Oh, yeah.
No, no.
It wasn't that.
It was, like, in a sense.
We were being to.
Like pride full of pride
Okay, there wasn't even that
I'm willing to negotiate
Yeah exactly
But if you walk into a place
They go fuck you, get out
Yeah
Like if
You're gonna have to
Fucking budge on something
Like the first time
I would say pick
What'd you go
Okay, I'm sticking to this
Everything else I can kind of talk to
But no this is why we didn't budge
They were like
Okay we've already got a show called
Like
Hell faggot
Whatever
They were like we need to change
It was
Yeah they were like
We want you to change
The name of Hellbenders
We were like no
And they were like fine
Whatever
Yeah, it's just like, oh, okay
You know what, if we went back now, it would be like,
yeah, let's just call it the Gooseberry Brothers.
It's a stupid, it's a stupid title.
But I would just say, be willing to negotiate.
Don't walk in with it.
When I say ego, I don't mean in a sense
when it's like, I'm a big deal.
You know who I am.
I mean in a sense where it's like,
look, let me just do my idea.
Because you're going to have every show on TV
has fucking been negotiating.
Or realistically.
Always saw it was originally going to be
about fucking actors in Hollywood,
but the network is like that's a bad idea.
Make them guys and felled up you.
Like, you have to have.
I think it's good to have a certain amount of pride in terms of, like, that you're proud of what you are bringing to the table.
But I understand what you're saying.
There's a level.
I'm not saying, be there a bitch, but I'm also saying, don't sit there and go, I'm not going to budge.
You have to be willing to fucking talk because they're just not going to look with you.
I guess if you were doing your pitch, if I could say anything, you walk in and you just be humble to anything they sort of say.
We were humble.
Chris and I, we weren't like, hey, look at me.
No, no, I'm not saying.
No, I don't know.
me, but like, they're...
You definitely have to say, okay,
I'll work with you on this, I'll work with you on that.
Here's a question.
There's a healthy balance.
What's your question?
Sorry, were we...
No, go for us.
All right.
Well, this kind of ties into something
earlier. Zach had a little
back and forth with a mongloid on
YouTube about some guys
accused him of selling out.
All of us.
And this question, yeah, I know, this...
All of us?
Uh-huh. This...
Specially you, Mick.
Sudo-intellectual cunt that plays the guitar.
gets like three views per video.
But anyway,
a fucking failure
that will be forgotten
by the annals of history.
You know who you are.
You're not who you are.
You know who you are.
Holy shit. Next question. Yeah, this guy said
Roasted Six asks,
how would you guys define selling out?
Giving up on your beliefs to make money.
It's very, very, he just got it.
Doing something you would not
normally do in exchange for money. That's it.
That's it. That's it. The end. Next question.
Okay. That is pretty.
selling T-shirt is okay.
It's okay. Selling a shirt is okay.
Selling your work, A-OK.
Selling your work.
That's something...
That's something...
That's something people...
That's funny.
That's funny, because that's something people think.
Like, to go on it...
Like, people think, like, oh, you're selling your own merchandise, you fucking sell out.
They don't understand the concept that you're making...
Making money off your own stuff.
It's not selling out.
And people are giving it their own money for it.
Yeah, people...
It's their choice.
Yeah, it's like you're not selling, like, little...
Like, it's not like fucking, like, a...
Dragon Ball Pee on Doritos cups and shit.
It's not...
It's not...
I do that too I wouldn't fucking give a shit yeah yeah but I mean but you would endorse
Doritos you but I like the product I would do it exactly I would genuinely like I
you're not no but you're not gonna do something like you're not gonna endorse you
no you're not gonna endorse Ben Gay or something fucking like to me and said look I want to
put Goku's fucking retired face on our window I'd say fuck you radio shit in the shitty
store I'm glad you're dying what if they wanted to put it on like their Halloween
RC cars I would say go away you're a bad store stop asking me a million
questions, we're trying to buy something.
You know when you're selling out because you can feel it in your bones.
If you're doing it solely, if you know that you would not ever even consider doing it until they gave you the price tag, then there's a very good chance at selling it.
I don't even care.
Like, the way I see it is, if you're making something pure that you like, let's say a video game or a movie.
And if somebody comes along as well, you know, we just want to sell toys of this.
It's almost like the core product is something pure that you like.
Look, yeah.
And they're just offering you a bunch of money to sell a bunch of shit.
Kids will buy any...
Another thing is...
It doesn't matter.
You know product placement in movies?
Yeah.
If the product placement doesn't affect your immersion, it's not selling out.
That is incredibly important.
Like, when growing up, when you watch so many comedy movies, you don't realize the
subtlety of the product placement because it's not the main focus.
The main focus is the joke.
That's tough, though, because it's like almost now people are almost on the lookout for it.
Anytime they see anything with the name on it, they're like, oh, that's...
Yeah, but also, sometimes there's, like, fake brands and you're like, that's...
Stupid. Yeah, yeah. Then again, there's also like, it's not, people are looking for it, but it's also like how much, it's like, Kristen, how much in your face is it? Like, if you're shameless.
I hate what I want to see movies. It's like, let's go to Blitz de Wall andals.
Yeah, yeah. Transformers 4 was fucking obnoxious.
Yeah, but I saw it was a scene. It was terrible. The fucking the dude crashes his fish.
The fucking blue Budweiser scene. And he comes out, he comes out, he cracks it. It's like, ah, and he drinks. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. World War Z. Brad Pitt gets chased by zombies and he locks him behind the door and he walks over to a pristine Pepsi machine and he takes one and a half and drinks it.
And the background is like this disgusting orange background. So the red...
It's a zombie pops that's a pristine can still somehow.
I don't have anybody seen it, but if any of you want to look up there's a clip on YouTube of a guy, what shows that from?
It was from one of the, it was like from Hawaii 5-0 or the guys eating subway sandwiches.
Oh, God, I saw that.
Yeah, yeah, the guys just sit there.
I love the fucking camera
It's like it literally
It's like a fucking detective thing
And he's like hey what are you eating
He's like oh I'm just
I'm just seeing this chicken sandwich
It's really good
He's got it for 6505
All the music is like
The girl's like well really
You know
Everybody's explaining
He's like
It's not what you think
You can actually get a deal right now
It's so good
If you can cut the scene out
If you can cut the scene out
If you can cut the scene out
and double it as the actual ad
that's when you know it's product placement
like the thing with World War II and the Pepsi thing
that could easily be a commercial
just snip it out and put it right there
the guy had like fucking like six sub
subway sandwich it wasn't just one
it was like six of them like he was doing a fucking taste test
they took the fattest guy on the show
he was like eight and our pals and he's talking about
how healthy subway sandwiches are
one kind of product placement I don't like is when they get like
Shrek and he's like oh McDonald's milkshakes
it's like you're ruining the immersion
of that way absolutely
you don't want like Shrek going in
And like...
You tell me you don't like the Trek, it's a Shabrock shake?
Yeah.
I know, I hate that.
Because it's like, why does he have McDonald's in his world?
This fucking fairy tale lands.
It's true.
It doesn't make sense.
Chris, I hate to tell you, but Chuck is the real characters.
He is!
But you have to remember that funny joke, I'm making waffles.
Waffles isn't in fantasy.
Waffles is man-made.
It's not fantasy made.
Holy fuck, the immersion is gone.
I know.
When he's like, I'm making waffles, and then he said garlic.
He should have said, I'm making old potatoes mashed into a pan.
Yeah, he's like, I'm making swamming.
Swamp grass soup.
If I was Shrek, I would have killed Duncan.
This is important.
We're talking about product placement.
Go for it.
Wait, Jeff, let me ask you something.
What?
Out of all the recent movies you've seen,
that aren't shitty garbage,
not hot fucking sewage,
like transformers and these fucking travesties,
a movie you really liked
where it broke the immersion
because it had a product placement
that just felt really out of place at the time.
Sorry, I know you have the...
Go ahead, no, we can you name some movies.
Well, I just watched Age of Ultron.
Mm-hmm.
And, look, it wasn't
crazy bad.
I mean, they'd done it before, didn't they,
with, like, Burger King or something?
He's like, I'm gonna need a Burger King Burger,
like Tony Stark.
Oh, no, that was an Iron Man movie.
Remember he needed a...
When they found him, that he was in the desert?
Yeah, yeah, that's fine.
That's what he would do.
That's what you would do.
If I was in the fucking deserts.
So that didn't take me out,
but it's weird because that didn't take me out.
But that was clearly product placement, but that did not take me out.
It seemed like a very Tony Stark thing to do.
Yeah.
But at the end of Age of Ultron, no spoilers, don't worry,
Scarlett gets a Skype message.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And it's so weird because that sound, and I get...
It's a bird man, too.
Is it?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
In fact, when we're watching it, we all checked your Skype.
Yeah, no, that's the thing.
It's like, and even that is so subtle, and it's, you know, whatever,
whether it's product placement or not.
It doesn't really matter.
And it shouldn't be.
because technically it's just Skype.
You know what?
We all use it.
And guess what?
They're using it too.
It humanizes them.
But in the same time,
as soon as I heard that Skype sound,
I would just like...
He said you just don't need to use Skype.
Yeah, I just rolled my fucking eyes.
Like, uh...
Dude, I'll say to ask what I saw...
There was a guy...
There's a point where the hacker,
like, uploads a video to YouTube and puts it out of it.
That movie was like...
Fucking trash.
Yeah, the hacker's like...
Can I say something?
The hacker, dude?
I really...
I really hate that fucking cliche.
If somebody uploading something to...
a YouTube type thing.
Oh, and then it gets a bunch of views. I hate that
cliche. That fucking lady
M, she's like, we're ruined and it has
like nine views. It's like, yeah, you're really not.
She's just deleted. Because it's
like, if it's like that, it's like
these videos get like obnoxiously high
view. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That happened in what
kick ass? Yeah. Every single
movie. I hate that. That shows YouTube. It always
has like 50 million views and like four likes.
It's like, yeah. It's not. Yeah, it's not even. It's not even a realistic
number. It's just like, yeah, exactly. It's like,
It's a fucking a billion.
Look, movies.
It's always like one-tenth the likes of the views.
Just fucking learn that.
Thank you.
Amen.
How do you guys feel about AI technology?
It's creepy.
Jeff, I'm going to build a robot version of you and fuck it so it's not gay because it's not you.
All right.
Next question.
Next question.
Would it be...
Sorry, a 404 life non-found to ask that.
All right, next question.
Ari Lezima asks,
would you be okay with making a sleepie cast animated but instead of animated?
actors represented your stories.
That'd be awesome.
That'd be cool.
Good.
And to really play off our
stereotypes.
Specifically,
Ryan Gosling,
um,
uh,
Tom Hanks for Jeff.
John Oliver.
You have to get John Oliver.
I will not sign on to this fucking deal
without John Oliver.
Uh,
I want Channing
CGM,
Cidtankham.
I know,
I always do this thing where I snap my fingers
and violently pointed somebody.
You should be played by that guy
for dressing.
Mark who drops the canister down the hill.
Do you know what I want to do?
I want to walk on set with John Oliver.
Wait, do you mean?
And I want to act like I don't know where I am.
Hold on night?
That's great.
I want to walk on stage with John Oliver when he's doing his comedy bit.
And he's like, you get comedy bit.
And I want to walk on, act like I don't know where I am.
And then hide my face.
So I'm wearing like my, I'm wearing like one of those like hoodies and stuff.
And then when he comes over, when he comes over, I want to lift it up and be like,
Dad?
Yeah.
Exactly I want to be like dad
Caller he'd be a bad idea
Callie find a big like huge
Like a wicker basket like a massive wicket
And then go to his doorstep and like lay a blanket
Goethe and run the doorbell
Wait for the answer
We should make a video called John Oliver Makes Out
With Ryan Gosling and just have you guys kiss
No wait wait wait wait okay
No I don't want to be Ryan Gosling
Okay I want Ryan Gosling to fuck a girl
And I want Owen Wilson to fuck another girl
Yeah and one of them have a baby boy
And one of them a baby girl and watch them grow
And then they fuck and I want to be played by that kid
Got it
Okay, Owen Wilson?
Owen Wilson?
Why, Owen Wilson?
Why don't you just cut the chase?
Why don't you just have Ryan Gosling fuck Owen Wilson
and then make a baby?
Maybe. Maybe, baby.
If someone plays
John Oliver, I want him to play a deaf person.
I'm pregnant with a baby, a punch him in the car.
I want a deaf person to voice
dubbed John Oliver.
Why?
My name is Corey.
Why?
Why, Corey?
Stop smiling like a child.
Tim Fancy, you fucking idiot.
Because it would be funny, I want John Oliver to be talking normally and be like,
I'm qualified.
Moving on!
Let's get out of here, dude.
What a day.
You cannot deny it that would it be funny.
John Oliver talking normally with a deaf person.
Jacksosaurus asks, what's your ideal coffee like?
Iced, extra sugar, etc.
Very, very dark coffee with some Frencholette cream.
Easy.
That's it.
One big strawberry.
Easy.
I get it all the time.
Yeah.
Just like if I make it like a, on a brewer,
normal. Just cook it up, make it and then drink it.
But if I go order it at a place.
Black?
Yeah.
Black.
Yeah.
Normally.
But if I go to something like Dunkins, there's a specific thing I want.
I want turbo.
I want a smidgen of cream and no sugar.
And either large or extra large.
But I don't want extra large anymore because I mean, I fucking ranted about why I want
extra large.
Right.
You know what?
It's true.
It's a cartoon with a Corey Ranimout coffee.
I ordered an extra large
recently. That's a good movie cabin animated.
I like it. Black, thick, rich
sludge. I'm not going to make a joke
here, so stop it, make.
And if I do go to Starbucks,
if I have to, I will
generally always order a clover press.
It's a reverse French press
apparently or something. It has very low
acidity, and it's
a little bit more expensive, and it takes a while
for them to make, but it's fucking
tasty. I'm a fan of
cappuccino with a little bit of cream
and that's it. All right. Yeah.
You just can't have too much cream. If it's cheap, if it's cheap
coffee, I will add sugar. It cheapens
the value of your coffee. Yeah, if I go to take it down there or something,
they all have like cream and sugar, but
I like a big fat coffee club.
Shekelstein asks, sorry.
Who came up with the idea of all living in the same place and
how were you all convinced to live there?
What idea that just like happened over?
We were all friends. You want to live with your friends,
I mean, Jeff already lived here. Newgrounds is in the
area. I moved here.
Stamper was already working in Newgrounds.
This wasn't like, this wasn't like
A plan. Like the good old boys
And we all planned this when we were younger.
This was just something that happened. It was just a series
of events. I knew Chris.
I knew Stamper. I just moved in with Stamper
when Hans was there and then Chris came.
I was there before you. Chris was there before me.
Stamper grabbed the house. It was me
Stamper and Mike, I think, and Joy, I think.
Wait a lot, she was enjoyed. It's like if you have a big
boot on and you step in a pile of shit
And then you try to rub the shit off in the grass.
You know what happens?
It collects a bunch of grass.
So essentially, just more people just gathered like a boulder, like a snow boulder.
Yeah.
I think what it was, I think more or less what it was.
It was one of these things.
It was kind of a snowball effect.
What basically happened was what I remember, this is, I don't know if this is,
but this is just from my point of view.
When I came, Chris was staying with Hans and it was Hans, you and Stamper and Mick.
That's what it was.
What?
Me?
No.
To Chris, it was Hans, Stamper, Mick.
I wasn't here?
Mike.
Sorry, I don't know why I said that twice.
But yeah.
And then Mike left, and Zach had already been here.
Zach, I wanted Zach to come because, like, you could work with Chris.
And it was just way easier for you just come and live here.
So then Chris...
I mean, there was points where I'd come up, like, I visited here for like four months in a time pretty much.
Yeah, and Jeff has always been next door neighbors of that house.
And in Shad game, I'm always around.
He's all the time, man.
And then Shad and Lewis moved in.
Yeah, then Shad came.
Shad came where he was looking for a place, and I'm like, you should totally come here.
And he was like, yeah, okay.
And I was like, oh, all right, I didn't know if he would because it was kind of like...
That's what happened with Stamper me.
He just offered out of nowhere.
And I was like, cool.
But it was cool.
I'll admit, I thought Shadman was going to be a total psycho.
I thought I was like, are you really going to let him move in here?
No, it's one of those things.
But he ended up being like the nicest guy ever.
No, it's that, it's that rule where it's like the people who draw the most vile or fucked up stuff
are the most coolest people you'll meet.
Yeah, and the people who draw the most baby shit
are the most fucking disgusting.
Yeah, all the creepyest, like, introverse autists.
No offense.
They, like, they're the kind of people
who, like, fucking, yeah.
They, like, step on cat heads
and have people spit on them for fun,
for sexual gratification.
Specifically, the door to explore.
Any person, what I'm basically saying
is anyone who's ever made friendly, family stuff, no.
On the internet, at least.
You know, it's one of those things where it's like,
no, it's not that kind of stuff.
It's like that awkward campiness where those
jokes are just like, uh-huh, I'm not
a 12-year-old, so I don't think it's funny.
But then that's not always true.
You kind of got to pick and choose, but for the most
part, I don't think it's like, it's just,
I guess it's a cognitive bias, but it's a
bias I've come to, like, understand
over experience. I'm going to just choose to believe
everybody who isn't offensive
on the internet is a pedophile.
Yeah, no.
Yeah, just play it that way.
Williams all the way asks.
Right.
Yeah.
People always at,
people always say back in my day,
or people always say back in the day,
everything was always better.
Do you guys think anything has gotten better,
or are you all cynical?
If you're retarded enough to say that things were better
20 years ago, we had worse stuff than you're an idiot.
No, things have absolutely gotten better.
Anyone who says, oh, I used to be so much easier back then.
Technology is better.
Some people are worse.
The whole gaming industry is way worse than they used to be.
My point is now you have every other good game
from the other decades plus new games.
Yeah, no, but what I'm saying,
is like there's... My point is it makes
those... Unless the country that you lived
fell into a fucking... I would say...
You're hoping collapse. I would say it revolves around
certain things. For his... Yeah, you have every
movie, every piece of music, every video game from
every decade. We're talking now,
not decade prior. Talking
now. I would say
definitely some things are cut and dry, but I would
say that a lot of things are much easier.
Yeah, most things are definitely better.
Like phones. Phones are way easier now,
but then there's like a payoff where you don't have as
as charging.
You recall the things that were great back then, you're recalling the best stuff, there
were still fucking garbage.
No, yeah, that's true, too.
Like, the amount of good movies that still come out are probably pretty consistent, like,
Play of the Apsons.
Yeah, no, that's also true.
I also feel like it's kind of like, again, I'm using the term, but it's also like a bias
because it's like things, it was like new ideas at the time, like they hadn't really
been done before.
Yeah.
It was kind of like a new thing.
That's also true too.
And then like since, it's like the bar has been so high for video games,
even though it really shouldn't be.
But there's just like invisible bar that no one really talks about
But then it's like it actually does come up
Where it's like games have advanced so far that they have this huge regiment where you need
Like amazing graphics
You need like realistic like animation and you need just like a fucking intense engine that can like
It's not that I deny it I just think the numbers are really exactly
No no no but also like when a new game comes
You're a little shit
No, Corey
The fucking when a new game comes out right
Because it's a new game you have to put all this effort into photo re-retings.
Like, quit doing your best troll face. I'm not impressed.
Okay, go on Chris.
Are we done here? You're not done here.
Stop fucking gator to your face, dude.
I don't think I ever think back about like...
Wait, I wasn't...
No, Chris, it's something to say.
I wanted to say, but we can't know though.
He's gonna keep laughing.
Every time you're gonna start talking, it's gonna have that.
Go ahead, Chris.
Look at Chris.
This little troll.
Chris, go ahead.
What I'm trying to say here.
is fucking when a game comes out now
photo realistic graphics take a lot of time to make right?
Oh yeah
And the photo realistic graphics and production values
And the sound design and all this stuff
Masks a badly designed game
Way like a lot
So all these games like are designed very poorly
But people don't seem to notice because
They don't really know what they're getting into
Yeah
What did you think would happen when you're playing land
I guess it's also
I guess that kind of cuts into something
I kind of wanted to talk about
Yeah
Is like this is something I want to talk about
you, Jeff. It's kind of like an idea. I get some of
to segue into it is, um,
since we have all these
cut and dry stuff where it's like, oh, we get the same
you know, I'm someone who hasn't
really gotten into the series, but
oh, call of duty, it's all the same. We get the same
gray matter, the same boring fucking
like cut and shoot or I duck, I shoot.
I get hit once, I'm dead on the ground and then
someone comes over and stabs me. It's like, you get
that. I am completely biased
when I say this, but it's like people
feel that we live in this gray
area where it's like, oh, everything's so real.
I remember when it was just fucking four polygons
And we had fun
And it's like
Now things come out
And they bring back the stuff that we remember
And it's kind of like it makes you wonder
Like it's like a game comes out
Like for instance the Banja Kizui guys are coming out
They're making a new
Banger Kizui game
Which I'm completely four
I think it's fucking amazing
But I also have doubts
That it's like
It's been too long
Stuff has come this way
And it's like
I don't necessarily want the same
Bandozzii experience
Well also did the government
Did he do a Kickstarter
who gave it to that horror?
No, it was the fucking, like,
executive producer who did it.
It wasn't even the real Mega Man guy,
but I think what it was...
Did he get, like, truly...
Did he got a bunch of money?
What it comes down to is,
I feel like nostalgia glass is fog.
A lot of people's, like,
memory of what they remember a game used to be,
and it's like movies, too.
Like, people announce Zoolander 2,
and I fucking rolled my eyes.
I'm like, yeah, okay,
you're gonna get the same enjoyment you got
from Zoolander 2.
And then, like, I thought
dumb and dumber was gonna be trash.
I was right.
The sequel's awful.
but it's like
what I'm basically saying is
I feel like people
want the old stuff
because it was more simpler back then
but like
you know like
it's nostalgia
yeah yeah
there's a lot of nostalgia
cloning just Jeff
you're something
something
yeah the original programmer
uh...
create slash co-creator of the symphony
of the night
he released a Kickstarter today
oh
what day's today
the 5-11
should I bring up
do you remember
do you guys know what the name of it
is.
I didn't even know about this.
The Symphony.
It's game designers
kickstarting games, man.
Man, hold on.
I got to talk about this for a second.
Shovel Night was Kickstarter.
Okay, that's fine.
That one gets a past.
No, I know, I don't mean indie.
I mean actual game designers, like,
from the past doing it.
You know what it comes down to?
It's like, oh,
oh, that one guy did, like,
core art design for it's going to be the best game.
But he wasn't the one who animated it.
He wasn't the one who did the music.
Games are a collaborative effort.
Exactly.
I was always like the costume designer for Robocop.
It's like, cool.
You weren't the writer though.
No, exactly.
And that's what people don't seem to realize.
It's like, but they see that.
They're like, perhaps you didn't know.
This guy was the makeup designer for one of the new Marvel movies.
And it's just like, and he's doing a Kickstarter for a fucking Marvel, like,
its own like Marvel breakaway, like its own superhero story.
And he didn't make up for it.
But it's like, okay.
But it's like you're not going to get the same like validity.
Oh my god, it's already funded.
Yeah, yeah, here's the thing.
So games are like...
That's what I'm talking about.
It was just a programmer.
I didn't even thought.
What?
It's like...
Yeah, all right.
So, Caledalvania is Symphony the Night.
This game is called Bloodstained Ritral of the Night.
Terrible.
It looks exactly...
It has, it's basically a carbon copy of Castlevania.
The main character is the same color scheme
as Alucard from Symphony of the Night.
Yeah.
Um...
They were asking for...
They're already up to a mill.
Do you know that?
Yeah, they're up to half a million.
And one day, they're up to a million, nearly a million now in one day.
They pitched this thing with one bad Photoshop screens, one bad,
mocked up screenshot.
And that's it.
They just took a still from Symphony the night.
There was one guy.
It's one drawing.
There was one guy called Paper Bat, who is a YouTuber who was a YouTuber who did a Kickstarter
for a game called Project Roxavia.
And all he did was
Released Concept Art. He took, he got
like $13,000 and ran with the money. He ran
with it. Never fucking said
a word about it. Then he didn't... He's like a
a let's player. Yeah, and he didn't.
He's doing another
Kickstarter for a Dipper game.
And he never finished the first one. No.
Didn't, I didn't finish him. We just ignored it
pretty much. Jeff, do you see what I mean?
Like, people latch onto that. They're like, oh,
this guy coded. Oh, this design
looks like they were...
They badly... I understand they're not.
I understand what they want, but it's like looking at...
It's like, you look at this and you just question everything about it almost.
You know, like the one piece of concept art, there's one, there's one enemy design,
which is basically a lionhead with like five legs sticking out of it.
I think this...
You're going to make a Kickstarter for a game,
at least in a fucking playable demo or something around this is going to be...
I don't want to sound like...
What the fuck is that?
Show me.
I don't want to sound rude.
What the fuck is that?
What the fuck is that?
This is what they're selling the game with.
I don't want to sound rude, but I feel like this is going to sound rude, but I don't
like this is gonna be the Mighty Number 9 effect.
Yeah, it is.
Where they have stuff, because let me tell you something,
Mighty Number 9 had really awesome looking concept art
of what potentially it was going to be,
but when it was fucking released,
it was like, it looks like this awful-cut-based mobile game.
So what happened? What was the end result of this?
Disaster, and it looks nothing like the original concept.
They're not getting the game that they paid for.
Yeah.
I, I, uh, uh,
two things you're saying.
I avoid ever donated to two Kickstarter things.
things. One was, I can't remember one of them. The second one was, I think, a documentary
anything called, like, Fight for Space or Flight for Space. I didn't do that one.
Yeah, you got it. Dude, what the fuck? That was, like, three years ago, dude.
I think the thing is that guy, at least there's still proof he's working on it.
He always, I always get emails from that where it's like, hey, it's, but I'm still like,
man, that was like three years ago. But then he made a second Kickstarter.
I was like, I'm not doing it. Oh, for the more money. Yeah, I didn't get into that.
I was like, dude, I really appreciate the cars, and I really appreciate all the people you have
but at some point you just need to fucking put it.
I feel like the hardest thing is these people just don't understand.
Every time they try to set a budget, it should be like quadruple what I thought it was.
Exactly because what happens with that guy, he was, he's not being disingenuous.
He's not running into play.
But what happened was he was being too humble and asked for like half of what needed.
So pretty much you cite, you fuck with the audience and then you don't get to do it and you kind of waste their money.
Maybe you get a boost to do like half what you need to do, but it just kind of fucks everybody.
Even with this Castlevania game, it's like if they would have just hit their half a million dollar
budget, there's no way they would have
able to finish it. Like, 4 million.
Yeah, and he was still like, I can't finish it, sorry.
No, yeah, you know, what happened was
it was, it was, it was a poor budget management
and he didn't, he asked for more money
because he couldn't, like, manage some fucking bucks. What was he originally asking for?
I think it was something like,
$200, $300,000, maybe,
maybe $240,000, I believe.
It was a couple hundred thousand, is the point.
He got $4 million, was like, yes, so I can't do it.
But, you know, someone like,
I guess it's weird because, like, you know, those guys, they make great games way forward.
They did that thing for Shantay.
And that game, like, you know, they're way forward.
They made good games in the past.
Very simplistic, like, their girls are cute, and they make these games.
And it's, like, again, like, Skull Girls.
They had a goal.
But they were very community-oriented, which is something not a lot of kickstaters can do,
but they were already, like, in the community.
So they would reveal stuff.
They had artists who worked behind the scenes
who would show off secret screenshots
and it was just very like fun on its production.
The reason Skull Girls got done
is because the programmer
was very, very, very passionate about fighting games.
He knew what he wanted.
He knew how to make it.
And they hired talented animators
and they had a proper budget.
It's pretty fucked up when people do a Kickstarter
and then you change things after you get money.
Like I know there was a series
called...
Like a bait-in switch.
There was a series called Bid Puppy Cat
And they did a pilot
And they did a Kickstarter for a series
And they changed the character designs
For no reason
Yeah, no, that's something
For no reason
It was a completely different
It was a different
But the character designs were changed
And the art style was different
And people didn't get money to that art still
They gave it to the other one
Yeah, I think one
And fucking 90% of the comments were like
This is what happened
To the art style I paid for
I don't want to see this
Dude that's it
That's the mighty number nine effect
It's disingenuous
Is that the word
Disenenuine?
Just not being genuine.
Yeah, and that's what it is.
They weren't being genuine.
And when they released the product, it was nothing like they wanted.
It was this like fucking fucking fucking...
You don't get to change something once you get the money.
You can change as much as you want before you get the money.
But after that, you're fucking locked in.
All right, guys, listen, we got a lot more questions.
Shut up.
Shut up.
Lighting round.
Yeah.
Oh!
All right guys, we got a lot more questions to get through here, but I want to make sure...
Fuck.
Go.
All right.
This is going to a little bit late here, but we want to make sure we get through as many questions as we can, all right?
So we're going to hit up a little bit of a lightning round.
All right, you guys ready?
Here are the rules, here the rules.
Answer lots of questions.
Fuck your tangents.
Let's go.
You know, tangents, go.
All right, here we go.
Big dick, big tits, go.
Afrodicus asks, if any of you had children, how when, when you expose them to the internet.
I'd whack them.
I'd whack them again.
Fuck kids.
Yeah, no kids.
No, no, I'm not interested in.
Not literally.
Yeah, kids.
Unless they're asking for.
Unless they're sure that I ask.
Introduce them to the internet with a 14.
Go next.
All right.
When they're a teenager, there you go.
That's the name of the internet.
All right, here we go.
Stop it.
Shut up.
Woff.
Woff thrusts.
Woff.
I'm making my own.
NER.
Somebody is stroke.
Stop.
Zach and Chris are credited in the latest
JohnTron episode, the Starcade One.
Could you tell us what you did?
We help write it next.
We help write it.
Yep.
Perfect.
SMA.
All right, here we go.
Smat chain asks,
have you ever gotten in an argument
with a feminist or somebody
was obviously narrow-minded in real life?
Yes, all the time on fucking Twitter every day.
All the fucking time every day.
Jeff hasn't had some fun to you with the images.
Just turn on your computer.
Everybody Jeff is a feminist, do not offend next.
All right, here we go.
We've got, um,
Snid Gerdin, uh, asks,
what idea notion do you find absolutely terrifying?
Exact face.
Just kidding. Zach's ass.
Wait, what?
T-800s. Next question.
T-8. What do you find absolutely
horrifying?
Meeting my dad again for 5,000.
Translucent fear.
All right, here we go.
This is from Fiesti.
What is your quote-unquote comfort zone?
Location, food, weather, etc.
What makes you most at ease?
See, see, the big plastic raw McDonald laughing at me.
Makes me happy.
Wawa?
Okay, Wawa.
And sitting in a bathtub.
I like sleeping.
Watching Jeff sleep, watch you,
Chris take a bed, go.
I like lying in bed, pretending.
A small cozy room that's a little lukewarm.
What's your comfort zone?
Sitting in a beanbag.
A bathtub.
A small cozy room that's a little lukewarm.
I like laying in a coffee across the arms.
A lukewarm room.
I like being in a hot fucking muggy office
with my best pals recording the podcast.
I like being in a sweaty steam room.
No, I mean, the shower is definitely one, but I mean, fuck you.
All right.
Do do, do, do, do, do.
The bob ring asks, who is your,
your favorite comedian at the moment no reddonald
adam sailor peter riffin
he's a baby oh he's funny
oh fucking he's a smart baby
my favorite comedian you guys make me laugh
how about that he's a small baby oh
all right next next question
stop
um fucking uh blah blah blah blah blah blah
all right here we go slow weaner
Topic for a conversation, Ed Atlin.
This underrated gem, in his opinion,
what has worked with Zach and Corey,
so you obviously got to know him a little bit.
Can you please talk about your experience with him?
And also, what do you think of his animation comedy style?
He seems like a really awesome guy.
Ed Allen's a really funny guy.
He's very funny guy. He's already both booked him to go to his channels.
I met him on Skype.
Last time I got audio from him, he was very sick, so he probably is dead now.
Oh no.
Like genuinely sick?
Yeah, he was super sick.
He's probably dead now.
Okay, that's all right.
He's a dead man. He's a dead man walking.
He's still alive. All right, here we go. This is from
Lec-Lekx.
Jeff, I remember
you saying on Twitter a long time ago that your favorite
show was murdered she wrote, and I was wondering
if I would
if you would ever consider being a writer
if they ever decided to remake
the show from Monter on me. Yes, I'm a huge
Andrew Landsbury fan. I'm working my fan fiction.
I'm going to send it in. Thank you.
I would love to see
you fucking writing around that.
All right, here we go. This is from
a Tobia guy,
Oni, I'm curious as to how exactly
you figured out how to make
music. I study music
and I have always been curious.
I study music and I've always
been fucked in ass, Zach.
This is lightning round, not retard round.
I studied music and I
have always been curious as to whether anyone
can learn how to be
how to be music or if it is just
a thing you are born with, thanks.
Here's my music lifetime.
I started off making ringtones of my
Nokia 3510. Then I started importing Mid-Eye into fruity loops and looking at the how you make music with the chords
Then I started learning music theory on YouTube then I started learning to pay piano then I became a master of music the end
Can I say something? Can I say something? Okay, okay when I learned music it was because I learned it from here
I just started I was making music
I wasn't doing no, no you were doing that with every other fucking question
I excuse me I was going do do do do do do do do do do
Do you do-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-do.
What's that?
Can we come up with a lightning-round theme?
Yes, and we'll play it in the background.
Oh, we're just doing it!
Do it.
No, do the American Gladiator's theme.
No, do it.
Do, do it?
Do, do it?
If he does that, we shall chime in with a percussion, right?
So you go do it.
Okay, so it's like, do-do-do-do-do-do-do-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d--d------------------.
This is like a 70s cop buddy show.
Yeah, get the fucking.
Lightning round.
Lighting round is like...
Alright, oh fuck, your phone got you.
Or not died, you just turned up.
There's a couple more questions.
Alright, next question, lightning round.
We've got, um, uh, from another normal Nick.
What are some of the things you would like to do before you die?
Something, look a bucket list.
I don't think it didn't happen.
I just think the numbers were really exaggerated, so I'm moving on.
Come my dick off, eat it.
I want to visit.
Yes.
I just want to visit.
I just want to visit.
I think the numbers are clearly exaggerate. If you look into the facts, I'm not, I'm not doubting to the facts.
There's nothing wrong with questioning history. Six million I don't think so.
What are you talking about? That's question.
Look at Jeff right now. Look what you're doing there, ma'am.
I'm not saying, I don't believe it. Let later on.
All right.
I don't see a fourth Holocaust. Thank you.
All right.
I wasn't talking about the Holocaust. What's your fucking problem, Jeff?
I want to do three more Holocaust. Thank you.
Oh, I don't I want to do. I don't want to do.
I want to key the Batmobile.
Next.
All right.
Which one?
I want a feeling for the real one.
I want to fucking jerking dick off, dude.
I want to kiss the president.
I want to say,
I want to say,
I would love to listen to Zach talking about world news and what he thinks maybe stop happening in Ukraine.
Nobody else is boring.
That's boring.
Go to go.
There's something called the history channel.
Broken Spikes, where do you, where do you...
Oh, fuck off.
You have fucking Madmex.
Fuck you, what I'm done.
You're putting up every day after school.
You know what we got?
You know what we got?
Revolution! We have World War II! We have some Fyndon War!
A Wencester! The fucking JFK assassination!
Oh, cause of F!
Broken Spikes, where do you guys see sleeping cabin in 10 years? We're all dead.
Alright, yeah, exactly.
In 10 years?
Split up, broken.
What? Losing money.
All dead except for me, I have stayed in Top of Hill.
Smiling.
He's a son of his act.
Realistically, though.
Alright, here we go.
D&D movies 42.
Oh wait.
Nice move, nice name, you freak.
That's the worst film ever.
Okay, Frum.
Fuck That's That's So Good Asked.
What is the dumbest way you ever tried to stay home from school?
Oh, that was a kid.
I tried to be Peter Griffith.
Shoot up bananas with some fucking peanut butter.
And then I remember waiting for my mom to come up to my room.
And I told her I wasn't feeling well.
And I spat it.
This is when I was about eight years old.
I spat it on the ground.
I did chicken soup.
Didn't work too well.
No, actually, one time I actually tried to get myself sick.
Like, I remember they'd said if you, like, had wet hair and had a fan blowing on your head.
So I actually did that.
I got my hair wet and I stood in front of a...
I slept under an air conditioner all night long
hoping that I could get fucking sick.
Make, really sick.
I hit in the closet and locked myself in and freaked out
and started hitting on it in the random afternoon.
Because I was still tired, so I kind of passed out on the clothes.
I always had to after school's over though.
Coring, one time I figured out if you were a vasiling
your hands and rub it on your face.
It wasn't the question to stay.
Stay home from school.
Yeah, stay home.
Your head also slip up with an elephant's butt.
You need to go into this.
What?
To stay home from school to not go to school?
I hid in my closet.
Yeah, because they didn't see me.
Huh?
To stay home from school?
Did they not bring you to school?
You were doing this in the afternoon.
No, in the morning.
Cory.
Oh.
Why did you get to school?
Normally, did you walk there?
I take the bus.
I just thought I could maybe, like,
I thought I could actually,
it was like a test.
It was like, I wonder if I could just stay in.
But I locked myself in the closet,
so I was freaking out and screaming my house.
You didn't have to lock the closet.
It locked by itself.
That's what you get for me.
I think we answered everything.
I've got a good question.
Hey, we have like tons of questions on separate.
Just open up the Reddit and start reading questions.
Where is Sleepy Kevin?
What is the address?
Revels fan X27 asks,
What do you think of monkeys that have throats like frogs?
They're my favorite.
I think they say,
Look, if you see those monkeys?
There's monkeys that have these big, fucking disgusting, like,
translucent for our throats.
The reason I see it, I want to stab with a throlet something.
I know.
Yeah, if you stop and go.
All right.
Sort of my best.
Their total safe.
Lightning round, lighting round, other fuckers.
Are there any other YouTubers that you met in real life that were just complete dicks?
Like you tried to make friends with them,
and they gave you the cold shoulder, something like that?
How about Utah, 0-0-01.
Alright guys here we go. We're gonna end the lightning round with this final one from Toby Sarah and that is could you do another improv story? Thanks, but this is a lightning round story
So you don't get to sit around thinking about it
Alright, I want to go bowling dad
Chris come on lightning round. We gotta do improv story. Go
Alright
Go circle
No, do a story don't do fucking fake-assum bitch
Alright
Once there was a beautiful horse in a field and a young Indian boy who would ride the horse
He dreamed
And then Jeff, then realized Mick was watching that burning story.
He ruined it.
And then Artek died.
Fuck, the never saying the never-ending story.
And the rock monsters ain't rocks.
He is an Indian, dude.
Is he?
Yeah.
They didn't go to the horse.
I'm gonna be all fine.
I'm gonna be off.
No, we gotta start again.
It was the never-ending story.
You guys start.
You guys start.
No, look, okay, Corey.
Oh.
Okay, there once was a skinny, skinny man, droopy-eyed, retard baby, who drooled and vomited
on his parents until they got
tired of it and fucking dropped him off
at, I don't know,
healthcare clinic.
What shall we call him?
Corey, she said.
Corey's dad walked in, he looked down in disappointment.
He picked up this new baby by
his dungarees, and he threw
at the wall.
And then he said, and in a thought
fit up a bit of depression, he watched
Batman returns, and he said, this is a great movie.
Let's put him in a baby couch.
in the sewer. And they did that.
And they flew out.
And they ran away.
Corey floated down the sewer. All right.
No, it's my turn.
Cory, baby Corey,
floated down the sewers
only to be washed up on
the shores of
the YouTube Let's Player University
where he was accepted
and they brought him up the stairs
into the dean's office who
then decided to give him a free scholarship.
Okay, I learned the arts of
being really funny and entertaining to kids.
I learned how to dangle my keychain and fucking make babies coup.
And the little did they know, I pulled out the max, but I was actually a droopy-eyed retard baby.
And learning the deceit or whatever it is, they banished me from the Let's Play channel,
and I was forced to walk amongst the fucking loser animation community.
where I met a bunch of fucking mouth breathing retards to a draw.
I got walls.
What was named Zach?
Who was named Jack?
What was named Mick?
And a really, really, a really handsome elf boy named Chris.
Elk boy in and said, hello, my name is Chris.
Okay, this is garbage.
You can't like that end it right now.
Yay!
Do do, do, do, do, do do do.
