SleepyCabin - SleepyCast 25 - [The Self-Appreciation Hour] (REMASTERED)

Episode Date: May 16, 2015

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Starting point is 00:00:00 There is a world as tangible as our own, impossible to see yet unavoidable to sense. A world enveloped by a seemingly unending ocean of forests. Buried deep in that forest, tucked away neatly within a blanket of twilight, lies a quaint little cabin. And in that cabin, it's a bunch of guys. He's a bunch bullshitter. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the 37 annual Q&A and Reddit Sleepy Cab. Sleepycast episode
Starting point is 00:00:32 For you ugly folks who don't realize what's going on basically every fifth episode of the podcast we take your questions which we answer them Out of the little hat And by the way If you give your fun bucks to us
Starting point is 00:00:46 On patreon.com Fun bucks Yeah are you fun bucks Your parents hard on allowance You can We'll answer your questions at a regular episode But this is for you people who don't pay Well we should explain that we're no longer
Starting point is 00:00:57 gonna do every five episodes Yes, starting episode 30, we're doing every 10 episodes, we'll be Q&A episodes. That's right. This is episode 25. That's a quarter of a hundred. That's five more than 20. That's two less than 27. Who thought we'd get this one?
Starting point is 00:01:12 Who thought we'd still be alive? I thought we'd love to ourselves before episode three. We're going to be bringing in a few guests to like it. We're going to have like funny thumbnails with like crazy faces now. Booms. Yeah. Lots of boobs. Stop laugh.
Starting point is 00:01:25 Better. You're going to have like a laugh track. Because a lot of people were saying, you know, when do I laugh? I don't know with the lap. We'll get out of lap tracks for those of you. And a boo, a boo one of the jokes are funny. It's not a good joke. You're going to have notifications where I say,
Starting point is 00:01:35 nah. And you laugh. You guys are all going to laugh. It's going to be great. We have some crazy guests coming on. Like Fred, they know you orange. My YouTube hits. I just tea.
Starting point is 00:01:46 I'm talking. Yeah, I just think. She's making her re-debue. She's, I haven't been on the internet in a long time, but she's coming back for season two. For those of you who heard that delicious crack, I was drinking.
Starting point is 00:01:58 a delicious Monster energy drink Are you interesting guy Jeff off the rails Is crazy Listen Jeff on the change Jeff eats like sugar It's jumping around you guys
Starting point is 00:02:12 He's a crazy frog He knows what he's going to do What if Jeff What if Jeff fucked up he's like I just had a bunch of chocolate I'm a sugar high And I was like Jeff Calm down man
Starting point is 00:02:21 Just sit down I'll behave I'll be here for the next three hours I'll start going Bada-a-Ding ding ding ding ding ding Ding ding ding Bada a d'i Bing, ding, dang.
Starting point is 00:02:29 Speaking of behaving and speaking of Q&A's, Jeff. Yes, sir. Do you happen to have a question locked and loaded and ready to fire off? All the chambers are full, but I'll shoot off the first one here. Shoot it off. D&D Movies 42 asks, have any of you considered doing more serious animations? Something that's a drama and not funny.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Mick, why don't you take this one? Yeah, I mean, I would. I would say for the most part, I'm already doing half of that because none of my cartoons are particularly funny. As far as dramatic ones, I mean, I've had them in mind. I have a lot of projects in mind, but will I ever have the opportunity in this lifetime? I don't know. I mean, yes, I have lots of ideas in mind, but probably because I have a lot of, like, film stuff in mind, you know? Like a lot of, like, more dramatic film-y shit that I would then also translate to animation.
Starting point is 00:03:27 What's up? Corey. You had your hands held up looking class. I don't think I could ever do something with seriousness. Not because I just can't do it,
Starting point is 00:03:38 but because it's not really in my nature. Sure. Like, for me to write something serious, it would have to be, like, bullshit joking serious. Like, over the top,
Starting point is 00:03:47 something, like, in the vein of show where it's, like, light humor. Right. Insulting jokes, but serious, I could do something like that.
Starting point is 00:03:54 But a real tone, it's not something I know how to write. I don't feel like I'd write the character What was that movie What was that movie With the guy with the cancer
Starting point is 00:04:01 With Gordon Lovett? What's that? Philadelphia. 5050. Yeah, 50-50. Was that, did that have like a Philadelphia? That was the guy with the age.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Oh, Tom Hanks. It wasn't, I mean, there's a lot of jokes in that, but it was fairly serious, right? Yeah, I guess, uh,
Starting point is 00:04:18 yeah. I mean, I guess you could consider that film serious. The one with Tom Haines was serious, too. Philadelphia. But it was also hilarious,
Starting point is 00:04:24 too. Oh yeah, that hilarious scene where he dies, evades of the laugh, He's crying. My favorite scene. I thought the funniest scene was when Antonio Banderas was banging him up the butt.
Starting point is 00:04:35 That was pretty funny. The boyfriend Philadelphia? Yeah. That was Antonio? I thought it was, wasn't it? It was a very attractive hobo-sex man. I could be wrong. I haven't watched that movie any long time.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I tried writing serious stuff, but it was dry humor always sort of seeps its way in. I'd just start writing dialogue. I can't. Yeah. Get away from it. I couldn't sit there and write something serious like, oh, you kill my whole family. family, I'm not writing Spahn. I don't know how to write. Like, if I was being serious, it would have to be over the top fucking serious. You just Spawn? I love how Spawn was like... Is that your go-to? Punisher. Punisher.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Oh, okay. I get Spawn and Punisher confused because I'm an idiot, but... In Corey's DVD? Is that your go-to? In your... Punisher. In his library, serious fucking Marvel. What about your drama? It's under drama. He has Spon and Punisher. next to fucking Shawshake Redemption Well, I'm talking about like create Because Punisher like the seriousness of it as a Marvel movie
Starting point is 00:05:37 It's Marvel, right? Yes. Okay, so that's something I would like It would be cliche like that I don't want to do something like that It would have to be something serious like Not done before but everything's been kind of done before It's serious like everything that you've liked that was serious
Starting point is 00:05:53 I couldn't write something like fucking the show everybody likes, but I saw the last finale of... Dairdable? A fucking Breaking Bad, Corey? This pissed me off. Corey never watched what episode of Breaking Bad? For some reason, you watched the fucking last episode. I saw the first episode and the last episode.
Starting point is 00:06:13 I guess you cut the bullshit right now. You got right to it, Corbynchew. And then I was drunk. Yeah, you still in the junk. I could throw in the blanks. I was drunk and I played the direct TV game where I tried to guess the synopsis, and I got it fucking right.
Starting point is 00:06:25 of the whole entire series. So let me tell you something. He cooks drugs, you mean? He's a science teacher who knows how to make good meth. And so all the bad guys are like, hey, stop doing it or work for us. And he's like, no, he's like, okay, we're going to kill you. That's breaking bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:40 Who needs to watch it now. He's going to tell us that. Corey called your game the second he saw the first episode, did you hack? You think you were a writer? Hey, I like the finale. Well, what happened was. I like the finale. You saw the first episode in the last episode.
Starting point is 00:06:55 really drunk that night after running laps because Swain told me to, so I was already sick and woozy and I was watching. You run laps? You ran around? And after it was over, I stood up and I'm like, really fucking good show. Wait, wait, you got drunk and then Swain said, right around, it'll wear it out. He is such a fucking troll. He's an asshole. I'm pretty sure. Cori, you were doing it on
Starting point is 00:07:13 yourself. You're running your... I was like really hyper and he's like, Corey, you know what helps if you run. Here's what I remember. That is literally on the bottom of the things you should do with your drug, Corey. Remember you're running down the street, full speed. be drunk coming back, coming back, then simultaneously while saying you were going to throw up pulling on my door handle, trying to get in my car.
Starting point is 00:07:33 Oh, this is that night. Yeah. It's true. I was panicking because I just bought that thing and I'm like, you're like, I'm going to throw up, and you're like pulling out here. You're going to get into the car so he can barf. Yeah, I'm telling you one. Open the door, I need to get in your car.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I was turning, I was turning, like, bleach white. I'm like, what is happening? What is going to happen here? And then stamper like a goddamn angel's like, you can get in my car. car, Corey. I'll drive you home. I didn't impuged, though. I didn't puke that man. That's good. You didn't. No. You're a good boy. You're a good boy, Corey. The last time I puked from drinking a lot of beer was when someone got like a huge six, not six pack, I think it was a 24 pack and I had six beer, blue moons, and then I went up to Sarah to say hi to my girlfriend. And then I puked in a bad ring in
Starting point is 00:08:17 it. It was like probably eight months ago. What about New York? No, that wasn't beer. That was liquor and shit. Oh, I see. From beer. alone. Well, so that story when fucking John comes down. Yeah, we need to tell that story. That's an exciting story. But to answer the question. Yeah, so Chris and Zach, what about you guys? Yeah, I could, I could, I could, I could try. Look, I've always wanted to kind of go into each genre and see how I can do it.
Starting point is 00:08:40 Like, I've always wanted to see if I can do horror well or something serious well or something actually well. You know, I don't know. It just would be fun to experiment and see how each thing is. But there hasn't been a project on your mind. Here's a question for Zach. Somebody said, hey, would you... If the History Channel said, hey, Zach, we'd like you to edit a World War II documentary in your style. What would you do?
Starting point is 00:09:05 What would you do? If they gave you a bunch of footage and said, all right, here's it. We'd like to tell you a particular battle or something on World War II. Yeah, I think it would be fun because I feel like a lot of people make it boring. There's a lot of ways where you can, like, if you look at things, the right way, like, history especially, there's a lot of ways to make it. Because it is interesting.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Yeah. People fucking, like, dude, just decided to topple your foot on. pretty much. In our life, Tyler, you pretty much, within the last century, people are still alive who were there around for that.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And I can already see it, too, like you'd have Adolf Hitler, like a slow zoom, you know how they do the slow zooms and they do it? No, but then right before he cuts away, you do like a funny face drawn over him or something? No, absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:09:41 Just one brain? I would show the human side of Hitler. I'd show him like, you burnt my eggs. These eggs are burnt. It's fine, though. I'll still eat them anyways. I don't want to be rude.
Starting point is 00:09:49 I show that side of Hitler. The real important stuff. I chose style. I chose him like, like, cutting stuff. human. He's not a bad guy. He's not a bad guy. He just don't know his noise. He thought he was doing it was right.
Starting point is 00:10:00 You would have this like, this like light music behind while you were like, Adolf liked his aches over easy. Stalin couldn't shave properly. Oh, and I guess they fought in the war. FDR stuck his toe. That's why he was in a wheelchair. Just really important stuff. Nobody remember.
Starting point is 00:10:16 It's like, oh, it's so interesting. It's like all I know is he got shot. That's the only thing I know about him. Who? And now I know that he was in a wheelchair. FDR. He was a shot. No, no, no, the other one, sorry.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Stalin? JFK. Yeah, FDR, JFK. There's another one I used to see. This is going to be like my fucking... Yeah, they all have fucking initials. They have letters. They're saying...
Starting point is 00:10:39 Whoever goes by it, their fucking initials. Did you hear... Did it bum me out when you found out that R.D.J. got shot? Who's that R.D.J.? Yeah. I was trying to fish you into a situation. I was hoping you were going to give an answer.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Like, yeah, that sucked. It's Robert Deng. Yes, it is. R.D.J? Yeah. R.J. J. F.K. FDR. If R.D.J. was assassinated on the shot of, like, the next Avengers movie. Or it was, like, a freak accident.
Starting point is 00:11:08 Like, the dude got shot. Someone's on the crow. Like, the main guy got shot by him. If it was, like, one of that, and he was, like, shooting his hand out. Yeah. And they fucking actually recoiled and knocked his block off. You know he doesn't actually have, like, a rocket hand. Yes, he does.
Starting point is 00:11:24 That's a visual. effect. He doesn't have a real Iron Man costume, Corey. Have you ever seen cartoons with extinguishers? You put him on the bag, you snap off the fucking sprayer and it goes flying. That's how they do it. That is actually how somebody's wife recently died. They said
Starting point is 00:11:39 it was one of those gas canisters and I think it was on the set of something. If you guys Google it, you'll find it. But it went flying and apparently it went all the way through the chest cavity. Oh yeah, but everybody loves Raymond. Yeah, who was that? Everybody loves Raymond? The wife died on that
Starting point is 00:11:53 for that. Oh, was that it? Everybody loves Raven. Yeah, she died. It went through her fucking body. Yeah, it tore a big hole in her. Yeah, she was like, oh, no, she's dead. I would expect you to die more from the shrapnel explosion? No, it was the whole canister. Whoever I even, if you look it up, the whole canister was like a big bullet and just... Yeah, that pressure is going to happen.
Starting point is 00:12:14 It was the brother. Yeah. You know, the big brother's always... The big troll guy? Yeah. Oh, geez. Went right through his fucking head, killed him. Oh, my brother's...
Starting point is 00:12:25 dead. Everyone claps. Right, man! Should we move on to the question? Yes, we should. All right, next. We're 18 topics. We've got 80 more questions. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:12:35 Now, all right. Here's the question. Optional, second part. Okay. Zealous zombie. Zellus zombie 96 says, all right, here's doozy. You ironic meme-loving fucks. Oh, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Oh, wow. Okay. That's a good story. Go around the table and each present a compliment to each other that isn't best. That candid or sarcastic and not related to animation or drawing. Now, I was talking to Corey about this. Now, somebody also asked a question, asking us to mention what we hate about each other. Let's do that one first.
Starting point is 00:13:08 So we kind of... So Corey said he doesn't like something about me. This is going to fucking end, but... No, no, this is... Okay. This is, it's... Okay, Jeff wants to name. I'll just...
Starting point is 00:13:17 Okay. What Corey and I can just go and then we'll just do the compliments. You guys could go into terms of... I don't want you to be crucified. I don't want it to be something. It's not something I necessarily hate and it's not something I find annoying It's just the kind of person you are where It's not something that can be fixed
Starting point is 00:13:35 It's just you when we go to places and stuff Yeah Like sometimes you you won't go and it's like when we do things you won't go and it's just how you are Okay, you kind of person right right and that to me it's like because you're my friend It's like oh man I wish Jeff was here but I'm not gonna fucking go right home about it and cry myself to sleep over it It's just something, you know. Okay. That's my own personal thing.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Now, hold on. Now, hold on. You just mean like he doesn't want to be involved, or does the thing that actually bother you when Jeff says he's going to come over? And then he just fucking doesn't even show up. Like something. Is that what you're talking about? I'm not complaining about it.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I was just trying to clarify. It's teeter tottering. See, now it's interesting to bring that up, Corey. It's interesting. Oh, no. The lead back. I'll give it to the job. Jeff just move his jacket aside and revealed his gun.
Starting point is 00:14:23 I don't mind. I don't care. I'm just saying, is it interesting that everywhere you go to a party, you're only there for like two hours and you're like, I gotta get the fuck out of here. Yes. And you're like, get me out of here now. Does that annoy you though? It doesn't annoy me. I'm just, I almost feel bad that you even go in the first place because you're like, I'm sick of this. I got to leave. It's not similar to that. I have this weird thing.
Starting point is 00:14:51 I guess when I go to a place and I meet everybody I don't want to stick around I want to say hi unless there's somebody I generally know and can talk to but let's say for something
Starting point is 00:15:01 like Pico Day I was the first one out for everybody and the reason is because once I say hi to everybody and I've already drink and I'm on that point
Starting point is 00:15:09 where I'm buzzed I don't feel like I could last much longer like I'll either be passed out somewhere in my room where someone would steal my shoes or I would fucking like just be so drunk
Starting point is 00:15:21 that I would be out of control and I don't want to do that. Corey, when you're around people, do you, like, does your energy get drained? Yeah. Pretty quickly, when I'm around new people. That's like, that's introvert. Yeah, it might be. Other people are the opposite. The more people that are around,
Starting point is 00:15:36 it's like they're sucking their power in, like, Goku. It definitely fucking drains me. It absolutely drains me. No, I'm the same way, and I'm the same way. It drained, like, I was at Pico Day for six hours. I was there. I saw everybody. I missed a few, and then I was gone, and I wasn't coming back.
Starting point is 00:15:51 As much as people would think Zach as an introvert, I actually see, I feel like when there's a lot of people around and Zach's getting some attention, he's like a solar panel. He does, he just absorbs it and he gets more excited. It's only because I get nervous. It's a defense mechanism. I'm in the same way. I always feel like when I meet the people, I'm always a little bit more out there just so it's like, fuck you. You know what a fucker? Don't like me.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I don't care. I don't get, fuck you. I expect them to not like me when I first meet them. It's different. So I'm purposely a little bit over, you know what I mean? Yeah. I'm kind of exaggerate version of myself. So it's like, you don't like me.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I don't expect you like me. I don't expect you like me. You know what I mean? It's a defense because I'm built up and people not liking you for a work time. I'm not a jerk, but it's like, I'm not like, hey, you know, hey, dickhead. But I'd be like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:16:36 I feel like I'm a little more energetic, so I'm almost an exaggerated version of myself, so it's like, if you don't like this exaggerated version of me, fuck you. It's almost like I make people not like me a purpose because they expect them to anyways. It's what, it's not. I don't go out of my way to be in.
Starting point is 00:16:50 you're a dicker. I can't really describe it. It's hard to do. So when I was younger and I was bouncing around like from Malaysia to Taiwan and Taiwan to Japan or Taiwan to Taiwan to Malaysia to Japan and then back to Seattle and then to New York, I had this thing. I only knew people for like a couple of years at a time. So I kind of had to develop a system in order for me to determine who my friends were going to be in a very short amount of time. So essentially what I would do is I'd go to a new place and I would just let it all fucking hang out. I would burp, fart, say whatever. disgusting things I had on my mind, get stupid plastered drunk, you know, just basically be who I am, you know, after you know me for a while, but immediately. And it actually, it's funny, like, how quickly, you know, you get to know people. And there are a lot of people who aren't used to that. Like, they need to be kind of weaned into it. So, like, a year or two would pass and they'd be
Starting point is 00:17:40 like, you know when I first met you? You're fucking ass. You were so drunk at that party, and you were just farting on people and you were just fucking humping things. See, I don't think of like that. I don't know. But you know what I'm saying? I feel like that's almost the same kind of thing in the way. Yeah. It's like, fuck, you. I don't expect you like me anyways.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I'm unlikable. I know you hate me, so I don't give a shit. Yeah. It's more like that. I don't know. I'm a fucking... Let's make this little positive. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Okay. How about Chris and Zach? I'm going to kill myself. I'm going to kill me. This is a real threat. This is a cry for help. Wait, we have to do what we hate about us for each person. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:18:15 We'll come back that later. I'll come back later. I'm not over the heck. How about Chris and Zach? Sorry, Chris and Zach each compliment each other in some way that people aren't maybe aware of.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Something nice about each other. I'll start. I'll go around. Corey, I don't care of what he says about you. You're not a piece of shit. You penis is average, Corey. Don't listen to the haters. No, you know, Corey, you're very dedicated.
Starting point is 00:18:39 You're a very hard worker. You can sit down to work for 15 hours. It'll be like, I haven't worked up today, but a piece of shit. Yeah, no. And I'm better than. Chris, I hate your stupid green shirt. He pissed me out where do I see it.
Starting point is 00:18:52 They said not to be sarcastic. Oh. Yeah, you've already ruined it. Fuck off. This is what I hate about you, Chris. Sex. Chris, I think Chris is very, very good at thinking of original ideas. There are things that Chris says.
Starting point is 00:19:08 How do you think of that? I admire that. It's creativity. We're just thinking of such a completely new, unique idea. It's 100% unique. It doesn't borrow from anything. It's just its own thing. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Jeff, my little boys, you know, you've grown so much over the years. My sweet child, my little Sunshine Ray. Yeah. Jeff, I think you're very good at dialogue. I think you're very good at writing stuff, and I think you're very good at making stuff work. All right. I'm going to go beyond that, too.
Starting point is 00:19:37 I admire your honesty. You're not the kind of guy who's like, hey guys, I'm a crazy party guy. Like, you and yourself are like, look, I'm an emotional sack of shit. Do I bring too many bridges of my honesty sometimes? No, but I...
Starting point is 00:19:50 You keep the ones that are worth... It's not bad, honesty. You know, there's two kinds of people, there's the kind of people who are like, I'm really honest, and then they say what they shouldn't say, it's like, yeah, you still have to realize a lie, you idiot. Like, you're not stupidly honest. Like, there's one that's real, yeah, I'm honest,
Starting point is 00:20:02 and you see a guy, you're like, yeah, you're back, you get away. It's like, what I'm honest. You're not that kind of guy who says that. I'll lie when I have to. That's what I mean. That's what I mean. You draw the line what it's supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:20:10 All right. Okay. Mick. Mick. Let's move on. All right. Let's move on. Wait, wait.
Starting point is 00:20:17 We can't just have one person. No, let me tell you about Mick. It's, it's, it's, it's, I feel like Corey and Mick are hard workers, but in their own different ways. Corey will sit down like, like a, like a, like a, like a psycho and work on the same thing for whatever. But Mick, he's a multitasker. He can't believe. He walks into the opposite. He's tweaking out.
Starting point is 00:20:37 He's like, yeah, man, I got to do this, this and this today. I got to do 45 things today. and you know whatever else and he's still not a piece of shit that's the cocaine though thanks man and most people
Starting point is 00:20:48 most people would be bitter fucking serial killers I did a lot of if they did the much of work you did I did a lot of coke can I say what I admire a lot
Starting point is 00:20:57 yeah can I say what I admire no wait wait wait wait one sec Mick you can't just say that move on if I was okay if you were to offer me cocaine
Starting point is 00:21:07 no if I was to say Mick build me a sand cows out of Cocaine, how big would the sandcastle be that you've done in your life? That I've done in my life? Yeah. It wouldn't be that big. Yeah, but how big... I don't know, it'd probably be like...
Starting point is 00:21:18 My whole life. Everything that's gone up my nose. A sand castle. I don't know, maybe like... One of these days... Oh, that's petite. One of these days we're going to get to the bottom, the mix of stairs past.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I don't have a mysterious... I don't know about that. We're going to figure out you killed some in Malaysia or something. My... I've done coke before, but I've only done it once. And that was when I was already... doing Molly. So once you do Molly and then you do Coke, you're like, yeah, Molly's better.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Yeah, but your nose is still about it this day. I'll tell you what? It's only if you're like, s'm morning, and half dead bodies. How about, like, Mick, Corey and Chris, I'll each pick like two people or something. We'll move on to the next question or something. Is this going forever? I'll just go, I'll go through really quick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Corey, I like how little of a shit you give about anything negative that anyone will ever say about you. You can never say anything negative. It bounces off you, like you're made of rubber and they're made of glue. Sticks and stone. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:22:11 A little bit different than what... Okay. What? Zach. Oh, that's kind of the hot. Zach, I am genuinely baffled by how... Autistic? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:22 No, but no. You're ruining it. Zach, I'm amazed by how little of a... Or have... What's the word? Have tiniest penises. No, listen. Zach is so selfless financially.
Starting point is 00:22:38 He will be negative in the mind. negative in the money and he'll still go out of his way to buy you something at the store. He's ridiculous. Jeff, you are a lombering shit. Ableist. I like how blunt and honest you are no matter what and it helps people at the end of the day, even though it's kind of mean. I was about to say if there's someone at a party who's like pissing people up,
Starting point is 00:22:59 you will not stay quiet. You will say you're being a fucking loser dickhead and then they'll never do it again because you did that. Are there any helpful critiques for like that actually helped the person, not just me being an asshole. That is helpful because they never did it again. They became a better person. I think this is making me look bad. No, it's good. No, trust me. Mick, I like how, uh... I like how yellow your skin can be in the sun. Thank you. Okay. No, I like how nice, Mick is the end. Okay, I feel, I feel a warm and fuzzy. Like, I need to give off... Corey, but he's got the warm and fuzzy. They can see if he's all these...
Starting point is 00:23:32 Yeah, Corey, Corey, you're super dedicated me? Oh, you're fucking, Corey. No, it's Corey's super-dicated. dedication, great animator, Zach, you have a huge caliber in terms of like your quality control and you always like do what you have to to get to that. Chris, literally I don't know if there's any medium that you
Starting point is 00:23:50 could pick up that you couldn't be great at. You just seem to pick shit up all the time. Yeah, and Jeff, I think you're easily one of the best artists and not only that, but the speed at which you kick out shit is kind of semi-autistic and that's... I'm not fast. But you know what? Stamper's not here. Stamper is
Starting point is 00:24:06 easily, I mean, he's also a jack of all trades. Should we all say something nice about Stamper? Sure. He's easily one of the most generous guys I know. He's absolutely the most like Zach, he'll spend, he'll give, like he'll just It's crazy. He'll just... He doesn't even know you. He doesn't necessarily have the money, but he'll give somebody
Starting point is 00:24:23 just like 200 bucks. Like here, this is the help you do whatever you need to do here. Absolutely. All right, that was gay. What I was gay. What I want to go. Oh, okay, you want to go. Yeah, I said what I hate about Jeff. And then he said, Like,
Starting point is 00:24:38 he just figured you were full of hatred. Okay. What I moderately are annoyed by. Yeah, yeah. Wait, I thought this was. No, he did this for you. No, no, I didn't say what I liked. Oh.
Starting point is 00:24:48 Zach, what I like about you is I like how methodical you are with what you say. Like, you don't just spit shit out. You have a lot of stuff to back it up. So you're not a shit talker. You're a talker that can dish out shit. He's eloquent with his argument. Yes. You're very, like, you would never go up to someone and be like,
Starting point is 00:25:06 hey, you wouldn't just say shit about someone, you would have shit to back it up. So I like that you're... I like that you're... That's why you can write at tutorials because you know all this shit. Chris, God damn it.
Starting point is 00:25:19 Everyone's already said everything I went to say about you. But it's like, Chris, I love how bro you are. You're like the best bro. I'm a bra. I can pretty much talk to you. I can talk to you about fucking anything.
Starting point is 00:25:32 So it's like, I have like no worries so I can like share my secrets and shit and I have nothing to worry about. You know what one of Chris's things that he didn't like about you was, that you never shut up and you keep talking to him. Yeah, that's true. You're pissing about everything. Corey, I never want to hear your voice again. I understand.
Starting point is 00:25:47 This is a joke you should actually die. I mean... No, Corey, I greatly appreciate all that. Yeah. I like sitting in our little tents that we make out of her bed sheets. I know. And like, discuss... And kiss each other on the belly. Yeah, kiss each other. Swaps to him. Swapsed saliva.
Starting point is 00:26:04 Tell spooky stories. Talk about Oh, and Jeff. Yeah. Like, I guess it's not really with art, but I love how, like, again, it's like you're, it would be a lot like, Zach. You're very committed to what you do. And you're also, like, just the amount of sheer detail you focus on stuff. Like, it's not enough that it's just moving. You focus on the little things that people would forget.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah. The kind of stuff that people appreciate but don't remember. I should take that on. Jeff will draw things like in stuff where you'll, you'll, you'll freeze for him. You're like, God damn, Jeff. You put, like, 10 hours to do this thing? Someone's going to see for one second. I know.
Starting point is 00:26:39 And it's, like, it's appreciated. Because that's, like, something I appreciate. There's art, you know, I'd say, you know, there's plenty of artists that are like that. Like, stampers like that. Guy. Guy, God we met recently, Red Minus. Great guy. He's like that, too.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Like, we're super, like, I'm not going to call us all autistic or something, but we're super OCD with. Well, that's good. Details. Yeah. Maybe almost, too. I don't know if it affects us negatively where we spend too much time on things. Because it's worth it. And I understand.
Starting point is 00:27:05 saying that because I'm a perfectionist. I do something over and over. And then when I release it, I'm like, oh, it looks bad. I got to redo it sometime in the future. Nick. What I appreciate the most about you is how much of a community man and how you can hold something together. Like, you're the glue in any bind.
Starting point is 00:27:21 Like, without you, we would be fucking lost and probably, like, eating, like, shit out of the toilets. Moving on. Flamboldt asks, one of the most notable things about your collective comedies, how far it pushes boundaries. Yeah. I really enjoy that about your podcast, and everything you guys do.
Starting point is 00:27:36 Here's the question. Where do you personally draw the line? Is there something so offensive? You won't make fun of it. And, or is there something that offends you in comedy? Mick, why don't you start this off? I'll just say this really quick. I love everything that you guys do.
Starting point is 00:27:52 I don't always, it's not like I would use the word retard or the N-word. That's because you're a fucking retard. Yeah. I prefer not to use some of these words or make some of these jokes myself, but I don't judge. anyone who does, unless I feel like it's extremely malicious. I don't feel like you guys are ever particularly malicious about it. What if it's a retarded N-word being malicious? Then that's what they are.
Starting point is 00:28:17 If I ever do use the word retard, I use it in terms of like really being pissed off at somebody. Like when I use that word, I literally mean, like I would obviously never call someone who's handicapped or retard. But it's like if somebody is so... You basically call me the left. Would you call on? Yeah. Like they are so... Like, they, to me, are truly retarded.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Like, like, the people, like, they may not have a quote-unquote mental handicap, but as far as I'm concerned, they're worse than, I mean, they are just... Whoa. Would you... No, no, no, no. It's like they are less capable. I would rather... My brother-in-law has cerebral palsy, right?
Starting point is 00:28:54 Yeah. And I would much rather have a conversation with him than a lot of other people. They're fucking retone. Right. Like some guy at a bar who's, like, sitting there screaming at the television, slapping girls' butts, high-fiving his friends, spitting his beer all over the bartender,
Starting point is 00:29:08 and then looking at me going, hey, you want to fight? It's like... Well, make it, in my defense, I was a little bit too much. Also, I don't like to do rape humor unless it's, like, clearly light-hearted,
Starting point is 00:29:21 like, you know... You know, there's no... There's no, it's... It's a very... No, no, no, I just... I've seen... Look, I don't... I just show up the tip against the rest.
Starting point is 00:29:30 I'm not going to name any names. I'm not going to name any name, but like, you know, there's... She was been some... There's been some rape humor that has been extremely graphic and I feel out of... Not even remotely comical in any way.
Starting point is 00:29:45 You're saying the XD. Orsquay. Yeah, and now when I say the word rape, I know every... Like, so many... Like 90% of the people are thinking of a man raping a woman. That's not what I'm talking about. And rape in no scenario is okay.
Starting point is 00:29:55 However, you know, a bull getting raped by a tractor is kind of funny to me. I know that, you know... I think it's also... where you place the joke. That's who? So if you do a rape joke
Starting point is 00:30:09 where the joke isn't for shock value, you're literally saying, aha, this stupid Codd got rapist. Like, that's not really... That's not funny. It's not funny. But if you make the rapist, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:18 rapist cake, a rick introduction up, that's funny. You make you made rape a little funny. What do you think is the farthest you've gone, Mick? As an example. It's like the most thing you've like,
Starting point is 00:30:27 all right, it's the farthest. I think I've gone in the offensive. What do you say? Okay, that was far from me. I should that way. That's a really good question. I don't think I've ever...
Starting point is 00:30:37 I don't really think... You never thought you, like, you were like, just writing a line your personal line. You were like, ooh, that was... That was a buzz cut. Not, I don't think I ever... I don't think I ever really do that. I guess, like, the worst thing I possibly did
Starting point is 00:30:49 was way back when I made a cartoon, it was about... It was a pacifist's fighting game. And I think I had Gandhi and then, like, a bunch of cops come and beat him with batons until he's dead. And then it's like,
Starting point is 00:31:02 you die. You? win or whatever. I don't know, but like, I think that was about the worst. That's where you were like, oh, I shouldn't have done that. No, you know what, even then I wasn't like I shouldn't have done it, but that was about as far as I personally
Starting point is 00:31:13 pushed it, I think. That sounds like a good mobile game. Yeah, but I've been a part of plenty of projects that definitely, mostly your guys' projects, fucking some cancer boy falling on his, on his tumor. All right, look.
Starting point is 00:31:29 Exploating. A Pokemon cartoon, I would never live down, and the other, the game I made with a swain called Chingchang Beautiful, that's another one. Oh, I love that game. That game's largely not that bad besides the name, but there are a few little details. Like, like, one of the stages actually takes place in the crater, it takes place in the crater, it takes us in a map, it's where, like, Nagasaki is on it. Sweet dude.
Starting point is 00:31:55 There's a few lines of dog on there that are really, I think Swain, like, said something. This had nothing to do with me. I'm like, here, record some shit. He had his friend record a line calling the characters in the game zipper heads. Holy fuck. If anybody wants to know why you call people a zipper head. It's when you run over their head with a
Starting point is 00:32:13 tank and it leaves a tread in their head like a zipper. I can know that. Don't laugh. That's not funny. The more you know. Yeah, the more you know. Did something soldiers share with each other? Chris, I don't know, would you like to go over this question?
Starting point is 00:32:26 I mean, I've made my shitty, edgy fumers. cartoons back in the day. Yeah. I remember your swastika neo-Nazi Christmas thing. That's not even that bad. It's not that bad. It's just a guy
Starting point is 00:32:39 coding a swastika. That got banned in Germany. Did it really? Yeah, it still is. It's just a fucking swastika. Yeah, it's just a fucking swastika. Like, the worst shit I've ever made was fucking slightly rapy things. I don't think any humor is out of boundaries as long as it's clear
Starting point is 00:32:56 you're not being malicious and there's funny context to it. The one point I sort of like to go is just big me to people. specifically, like, you can, you can, like, make fun of, like, progenia or cancer or something, but if you're, like, going after... When you single out somebody who is good-hearted, they have no reason to be in a situation there are, and you call them out for it and make a joke about that. Just for personal shit they can help us, like, well, what are you fucking...
Starting point is 00:33:21 Like, I don't know, like, I don't know, yeah, just... Yeah, like... It's what I... It's the same way. Lewis CK, right? Louis C.K. is, like, one of the liberal fucking heroes of comedy, and yet, like, when he's talking about... about his own daughter, it's like, yeah, my daughter's a fucking retarded, cunt, you know, and like everyone laughs. They're not retarded, though.
Starting point is 00:33:38 I mean, like, in a sense where it's like, if you, there's like a bird dick, and you're like, oh, man, you're fucking defour him. That's not funny at all. One of his funniest bits, I mean, he was on the opening Anthony show. When he explains the word nigger, where it came from? With Patrice O'Neill, who's like the blackest blacked ever. And it's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:33:53 Yeah, Patrice has explained that where the word kite came from, he's actually telling the audience. Yeah, Kikel. Right. And Louie's like, you know, the word they came about it. They saw some guy to be a nigger. He was just a feeling He's like, he was just being such a nigger Yeah
Starting point is 00:34:06 But any other comedian who said Like if any of But I mean like Like Patrice is actually a good example I saw a roast he was on Where they were like making about his diabetes I was like that funny This is a kind of that's mean spirit
Starting point is 00:34:20 They weren't mean Have you ever seen a good roast No but my point is when you see With somebody up or something I fucking hate them I do too Roasts It's like it's the same
Starting point is 00:34:29 So try hard like bullshit. It's like what it always feels like a roast is, it always feels like they're like they're hoping to steal the show up on stage. Yeah, everyone is taking a shot at trying to steal the show. I think he could make fun of somebody for making a bad decision
Starting point is 00:34:45 or saying something or doing something stupid, but if you make somebody like for what they are, it just comes on. Like the Bob Sagitt, like there was, I think there were a few funny things about Bob Saggett and his past with drugs. To be fair, Bob Saggett, he's done a lot of awful shit. Yeah, it's true. Not just his like drugs,
Starting point is 00:35:00 or his like full house, like, he's made some terrible shit. Yeah. But I don't think anything's off limits. As long as you, look, the two most important things. I would say the most, actually, there's one important thing. There's one important thing and one kind of important thing. The most important thing is intent. If you are saying something with the intent of making somebody laugh and not say it to be hurtful.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Right. And it doesn't land. Like, if you make a rape joke, but you're trying to listen laughter and there'll be laughs. I don't think you're trying. trying to be funny. That should be important. You're saying intent and context. Context is the second important thing, but I think intent is the biggest. If you
Starting point is 00:35:38 say like, oh, you should get raped, like a rape victim. You're intending to elicit some kind of upset reaction. That's not trying to make anybody laugh. What do you think of the amount of people out there who really can't even, don't even understand the difference in that? They get mad on the internet. People like to be offended. Yeah, that's true. There's people legitimately
Starting point is 00:35:56 don't understand. They'll fish for ways to be offended and the users against Well, and the thing is, too, you'll see, I got to a fucking argument with somebody on Twitter, of all places, you know, I was sure that's never happened before, an argument on Twitter who knew? And the person was talking about rape jokes,
Starting point is 00:36:13 but they also like it's always sunny Philadelphia. And I showed him one of the most popular always sunny bits, which was, the character was Dennis and the character Mac, they bought a boat, and they're like, they're buying stuff with the boat, and the character Dennis is talking about, you know, taking the woman out, you know, we should get like a mattress for the boat.
Starting point is 00:36:30 He was like, why? Because, like, how of you, you want to take him on the boat? And they can't refuse because of the vacation. And he goes to this weird thing and it's like, you know, a woman, what, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:40 they can't, what are they going to say? No one of the middle of nowhere. And it's pretty much a rape joke. Yeah. And I showed it to the guy. I was like, what do you think it out? He's like, you know, that's funny. I was like, see,
Starting point is 00:36:48 laughed at a rape joke. I think the issue is people draw their lights everywhere. There's no consistent objective line up for what's a good rape joke, what's a bad rape joke. No, yeah, yeah. And even if you don't like
Starting point is 00:36:58 No jokes before they left in a black joke. They left a abortion joke. That's my whole class joke. That's exactly what I'm talking about, the Lewis CK thing, about racism jokes, where people are like, there are no good, like it's never over. That's never, you can never funny. What about this thing? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:37:13 You can never use that word to make a joke. There's also a very famous, very, very funny, very famous skit with S&L skit with Chevy Chase. Oh, yeah. Richard Pryor. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. Yes, I have.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Of course I have. It's basically. Chevy Chase is like a guy hiring somebody. He's like, let's play a word. I'll tell you a word and you say what you think. First he comes a word. He's like, dog, cat, stop. Yeah, then it gets, yeah, then it grows.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Yeah, then he's like black. He's white. Tar baby. Yeah. Jungle buddy. He's just niggering. He's like, hockey. He's like, dead hockey.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Yeah, dead hockey. Yeah, it's a funny bit. But they made that word of funny. They made that word, they put in the context when it was funny and it was appropriate. The joke wasn't just a big thing. To be fair, and to be clear, when we say funny, I think it's important to remember that I'm not saying
Starting point is 00:38:00 The word itself is in fun, look Well, no, no, I'm not saying that I think when I was talking about Lucy K. When we're talking about this too, when we're saying it's funny, what I mean is it's accepted by a general populace as being funny By left, you know, by very liberal-minded people Who are finding a lot of these jokes funny If you were to like say, like you can't make rape jokes, You shouldn't be able to make jokes about anything because
Starting point is 00:38:26 You know what bugs bunny gets it? Where do you draw the line? He gets hit on the head with a hammer, right? Yeah There's at least like 50 people in the past whose faces have been smashed in with hammers and their family's lives have been ruined But you don't see them saying like stop making videos about hammers They're probably some people do though Yeah now especially but it's like come on you can't do that Like you know the new Popeye the new Popeye design that they were teasing He didn't have any tattoos and he doesn't smoke a pipe Yeah he looks like he looks like a fucking little Abercommy hipster
Starting point is 00:38:52 Somebody somebody is saying like oh maybe it's like a prequel but I almost don't think that was it I think there was something else going on there. No, it's politics. They don't want to promote smoking and they don't want to promote tattoos. The new, uh, the new Popeye design. He's wearing, like, his fucking, like, converse and it's, like, they dropped that movie anyway.
Starting point is 00:39:09 Yeah, I think he only did that to a show to the producer. Yeah, it was just like a teaser or something. But still, can I say something? Because it kind of goes with all you guys were saying. Sure. Um, I feel like what it comes down to is, uh, I think one of the things that makes something funny is when it's off limits.
Starting point is 00:39:26 because it's like you when you listen to a joke and it's an offensive joke you in your mind if it's funny you laugh at it because you know it's offensive but you're aware that it's joking like it's and I think that's where jokes come from like if you make a rape joke and like it has a malicious intent
Starting point is 00:39:42 then it's not funny because your brain tells you like this joke is meant to be and it's like that's not funny and it's like when someone does a comedy bit and they talk about the topic you know in your head like oh he's making a racist joke. The joke is racist
Starting point is 00:39:58 but it's clearly not intangent that's why most of the time when you hear racist jokes, it comes from a black person or a Chinese person or a Indian person and when you see jokes like obese jokes it comes from the fat person. It's almost like it's okay because I'm that. I hate that shit though.
Starting point is 00:40:15 I can touch that. Humor comes from discomfort. Look, look a good you're not going to find anybody who says rape is funny. I seriously believes it. We're 9-11 or the Holocaust. or cancer. Sure.
Starting point is 00:40:28 None of the... The world is full of things that seriously are not funny, they're horrible. Life is pretty horrible if you look at it. Like, if you really look at it... Sure.
Starting point is 00:40:34 It's got a lot of very bad things. If you can take something like that and take a subject to everyone goes, ooh, they kind of freeze up about it, and you can make something funny out of that. That's, I think, that's the best kind of comedy. Because you can tell a joke about,
Starting point is 00:40:49 hey, you can tell a joke about fucking corny. You can tell a joke about shoes. You can tell all kinds of jokes. But you can make a funny 9-11 joke. 9-11 is honestly the least funny thing to ever happen. It's fucking disgusting. Nothing about that's funny. But nothing about anything is funny. If you
Starting point is 00:41:04 could make death or alcoholism or AIDS or cancer, if you can find a humor in that, I think that's, there's a beauty. What it does is it allows for a conversation to take place. And by the way, you're not laughing at the subject. Right. You're saying, holy, you're using that subject as a
Starting point is 00:41:20 foundation, you tell a joke, as a springboard. Right. You're not making it a joke. You're not saying, look, rape is funny. People be forcibly, you know, raped and traumatized. That's funny. No, you're not saying that.
Starting point is 00:41:34 You're saying, this is a disgusting subject. What's see, what's if we can, if we can find anything funny about, not about this, but with this, as a cradle,
Starting point is 00:41:42 as a bowl. And then we'll fill the inside with soup, joke soup. No, and I honestly think that it opens up conversation. Like that Richard Pryor...
Starting point is 00:41:50 Yeah, absolutely. Like that scene, it's like, by not talking about it and by acting like it's off limit, I don't think it it doesn't open up a dialogue about it doesn't open up understanding about it it doesn't and I think the
Starting point is 00:42:03 the drawback though is that you get a lot of people who don't understand context who don't understand empathy who don't have experience so then they just take the joke part of it without the actual substance part of it they hear the malicious they think you're the malicious and they think that's the funny part
Starting point is 00:42:18 and they just roll with that. It's like oh you're laughing did you know people get raped in real life it's like okay I also think I also think humor is therapeutic in a way comedy about
Starting point is 00:42:28 jokes like that are funny and I also like one of my favorite comedians ever is Norm MacDonald that guy can make anything funny
Starting point is 00:42:36 if you watch this special he did the whole thing about alcoholics and out of us he did a bit about his dad dying of a heart attack yeah
Starting point is 00:42:43 like these things are just not funny but he somehow made them funny he did a whole thing about funny as he has a podcast he did the thing
Starting point is 00:42:48 about 9-11 yeah so he somehow made he made a fucking breast cancer angelina joe july getting your tits
Starting point is 00:42:54 cut off for breast cancer he somehow turned that into a funny thing that is the least funny thing ever he somehow made a laughter come out of that not of that but out of that so to summarize
Starting point is 00:43:07 nothing's up limits and I think I've gotten over I think I speak of all of people when I say I've gotten over this one of the worst of my life from laughing at it finding the funny stuff in it yeah
Starting point is 00:43:17 if you look at comedians I'm not putting myself in that group I'm saying look at comedians a lot of them are very depressed people with whom it's the way of dealing with shit and I think that's true for a lot of people It's cathartic in a way
Starting point is 00:43:30 It is All right The last thing I would say would be I don't know I linked it on my Twitter But I just want to say I linked a debate between Comedian Jim Norton and this lady Who was debating
Starting point is 00:43:43 Whether things like rape jokes Or so were funny And throughout the course of the video This woman made like rape jokes Like technically rape jokes Jokes that involved rape But she wasn't even thinking she wasn't realizing. She was doing, but the whole time she was like making jokes about
Starting point is 00:43:57 racism, things like that. But she was doing it like in a mocking way, but it still got laughs. Right. But we're still rape jokes, though. She still told the red joke that got laughs. Right. That's the point. To draw these arbitrary lines, these things go, well, this is a red joke, well, that's not a red joke. You can't do that, man. You can't draw the line where you think, I mean, you can, but you look like an idiot if you're laughing at this and this and that. But not that, that, that's not funny. She was making observations that other people were able to find humor out of, and whether
Starting point is 00:44:24 she was doing it. Yes, and she was, and didn't you do it, and she didn't realize it. Right. And that, look, that's a joke. If you can make people laugh, then you told the joke. I don't understand how, like, you know, like, oh, you can't make rape comedy jokes, but you can make jokes about cancer. And it's like, isn't that? That's my point. It's either, you know, there's a famous quote by either Tray Park or Redso or forgot who said it, but everything's okay or nothing's okay. Exactly. There's no point. If you're going to cut the line up here, then cut the line up there and you're being unfair at that point. Nothing's up limits. That's basically how I feel about it. Personally, like,
Starting point is 00:44:54 if I really wanted to dig deep and start making, like I take a context of what's offensive and start making a well-written joke around it, which would actually be a pretty good idea to try and make a cartoon around an offensive topic, see if I could pull it off. But that's neither here nor that. None of us ever go out and go,
Starting point is 00:45:09 who could we affect today? What can we say that's crazy today? No, I used to be like that when I was an obnoxious faggot. Well, every kid, every kid, could you kind of grow out of that with you? Well, that's what I mean when I was an obnoxious faggotty. Yeah, I can't, you know, even if we, I'll say it like this. Even if a joke we tell is shocking
Starting point is 00:45:26 Doesn't mean we stand up towards to shocking It doesn't mean it's a shocking joke And this is something too because I just said it faggot Like that's people are offended They're like because the you know the gray area between gay and annoying And it's like when I use faggot as a term I use it like a little shit A little annoyance
Starting point is 00:45:42 Like a fucking like You know something that's pissing you off I'm never like It's not a derogatory statement to gay people And that's like something again like There's so many things to be offended about Why worry about a joke? It's like you could be offended about things that actually matter.
Starting point is 00:45:58 I don't know. Do you guys want a silly question? Yeah, let's go silly. Moakix asks if you could make an extinct dinosaur, if you could, sorry, if you could make an extinct dinosaur exist today, what would it be? If you could bring back something back from the dead. Anything? Anything.
Starting point is 00:46:12 Anything alive? Anything that cockroach. A corosaurus. Something that's extinct, dumbass. It's real. I'm going back in Andrews. A corisaurus. A coris.
Starting point is 00:46:24 like a human like thing but not a human. Do you speak we can make him slaves and fuck him and stuff? Perfect. Next question. Wait, hold on. Sorry, go ahead. Can I have two? Okay. Well, is this like the super, it's like the superhero question, are you like?
Starting point is 00:46:40 Yeah. Because I have a landry. You're greedy, Corey. Yes, I want that. And I want Water Dragon. And, Corey, the Water Dragon is dead. It's never coming back. They're in hell. No, I can bring it back. The Water Dragon is never going back.
Starting point is 00:46:54 One's land, one's water. No. Corey, the wild dragons were fucking killed right from the solar nuisancees. Understand? Water dragons, there's just big platypus in the sea.
Starting point is 00:47:06 They're like dodo birds and lizards. All right. I don't know, Mick, did you want to contribute it if you just... No, no, they gave... Water dragon was also my answer. Okay. All right, me too. Just water dragons. You all think of water dragons. Like, the only extinct animal I can think of are the most common. Like, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:21 a dodo bird. That's the one. that everyone always remembers, and then there's like the fucking, the ones that evolve, like the saber-tooth tigers and shit, and just dinosaurs. I'd be fighting with brannosaurus because they were, they were vegetarians and they were herbivores and they were fairly gauze. Was you really put back a vegetarian?
Starting point is 00:47:38 No, no. Yes, I'm not going to bring back a fucking T-Rex to come in just wreck havoc. Get one of those little ones that like run on their hind legs. You can have it as your pet. Carry around in a... What about Galapod? Yeah, what about those? I don't even need to see... I don't even need to see land animals. They're all kind of like big chickens anyway. I'll
Starting point is 00:47:54 take like a teradactyl or some kind of sea creature, some kind of gigantic shore. Yeah, sure. You can have a land animal and a sea creature, which is the galapod. Yeah, see, I have a water dragon and a corisaurus. A cori saurus by the way. Corey Soros versus the Galapod, who wins? Corey Soros is smash him. He's got a big dome.
Starting point is 00:48:10 They have these huge domes on the front of their heads. The Corey Sores is just a dinosaur dragon. The core source has a fucking dome on its feet. It's just a dinosaur that's Corey's face. Yeah. I don't know if you got, I don't know if you guys like touching on how I'll shit YouTube algorithms are, but I don't know if we
Starting point is 00:48:25 want to cover that again. I went into a little bit on Twitter. I just want to say, I just want to say something to with you when you're done. Okay, I just wanted to say that, a lot of people, originally, this is kind of the way for something happened. Everyone's started doing cartoons. Then you realized you can make money to do it. Oh, wow. Then you started making more money. Then you said, okay, and it started to come here and job after the way. This is over the course of like a few years.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Yeah, then after a while, it turns out we started to lose money. Okay, that's fine. we started to figure out kind of think out loud, okay, this is happening, how do we fix this? This is just a heads up. And then there was this reaction for the public, like, oh, fuck you, you what, you think you deserve money for your cartoons, you really fuck? I was like, all right, I'll move
Starting point is 00:49:03 on then, I'll do something that actually gets me real money. I'll go, either go to a studio job, move the traditional stuff, whether that's TV or film, and then there was a bigger outlash and back, like you start, oh, you lazy, fuck, you don't make cartoons anymore? You don't get the best to both worlds. You either,
Starting point is 00:49:20 look, when you said, get, when people the people who said get a real job for years when we got real jobs though you fucking lazy bastards you don't get the best of both worlds I feel like and that's something that I could explain like over and over
Starting point is 00:49:35 but it's like the thing is the way the system used to be and the way it is now is specifically catering to a certain kind of like not demographic but style of videos the way the system is now is view time amount of a video
Starting point is 00:49:52 and minutes watch. So there's like three factors that affect that video now. And even then so... Consistency, your... Yeah, yeah. And there's a second factor, which not many people know about it, but it is on the radar at this point, and I think more people should know about it,
Starting point is 00:50:08 is a term called subscriber burn, which is based on how many people actually do those three things of the video, and how many people, like, let's say you skip a video, you don't watch a video, and that video goes by and you don't pay attention to it and you wait from to upload another one. Well, the problem is
Starting point is 00:50:24 if you skip that video, the YouTube system is like, okay, he doesn't want to see that video. So it's automatically taken out of your what to see feed and replaced with some other bullshit for you to see. And the problem happens
Starting point is 00:50:36 is it starts reading out all your subscription so you have to manually go to stuff because the new system, it's like, you know, people used to make millions of views back then and they upload a video and get 13,000 views. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:47 It's because they've completely been burned off the radar and when they release something they need either word of mouth from Reddit or they need boosts from people they know that are popular and that's how the new system is it caters to and the way let's play videos are not to continue is
Starting point is 00:51:02 it perfectly engulfs that concept like you upload a video you want to see the next part so you sit through the whole video and you get all the minutes watched you can set your runtime to like specifically how long they want which is typically 10 minutes and it
Starting point is 00:51:18 exactly caters to the system and I heard now the recently changing where you have to make a minute at least if you're an animator to even make a proper CPM and because of that it's like okay here's a fucking job I do every day where I get paid and get
Starting point is 00:51:33 I get paid at the end of a month and I even have enough to spend money on shit or here's a job where I can barely make enough rent and it takes me like fucking six years to do one thing and the community is shit to begin with so it's not even worth the payoff yeah you work like a fucking dog and then they still treat you like
Starting point is 00:51:50 people are like oh it took you the song where's my next one it's like a lot of the move on then I actually fuck you man exactly I think one of the bigger problems it's not even YouTube anymore it's actually become like Facebook and other other things because like with let's plays or live action videos you see the people in it you hear the people in it
Starting point is 00:52:06 you know they made that content but when it comes to cartoons a lot of times people don't know who actually animated they don't know who's voicing in it so people rip them they cut out the credits and they fucking repost it it up to like Facebook or something to get the attention. Facebook has like the worst recording system.
Starting point is 00:52:22 And Imigur or whatever but like or Imager or imager whatever like the Pac-Man cartoon that I did has more views on Facebook and Imager than it like three times as many views than it does actually on YouTube. So more people have seen this cartoon have no fucking idea about the people actually involved with it than you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:52:42 And they just think that the person who uploaded it is involved. Because like it's sort of steals a lot of action video it's like oh I know who this guy's over. No, that's what I'm saying. Animation is the perfect thing to steal, and it's why they keep doing it, because they just lop off the credits and try to take credit for it. There was that one, like, fat idiot who, like, used to make, like, truffle-shuffle videos and steal your leviosa. He had, like, he got 90,000 followers on Facebook in, like, a week from your leviosa videos. Like, hey, make more of that, make more of that video. Yeah, he was like, I made this.
Starting point is 00:53:09 It's pretty sweet, right? Yeah, he's like, yeah, you're great. Waiting for you to upload more so you can fucking steal it. I don't know what happened. I stopped paying attention to him, but you would see videos of me. He's like silly fat kid dances and he would just be like pulling his shirt up showing his tits. And everyone laughed and be like, man, I found you through the Leviosa video. You're so funny.
Starting point is 00:53:25 That's some goonies, by the way. Yeah, no, I know, no. That's what you call like a fat kid shaking his tittings. It's a trouble, trouble, him. Should we move on? Yeah. We have a bunch of questions. I don't know if you got.
Starting point is 00:53:35 I've actually made videos about my feelings about YouTube. Oh, yeah. I don't need to talk more than. Can I see one last thing, though? Just one last thing. Realistically, though, the kind of stuff I'm doing with Jeff, I would wrap. rather have my name on over spending ages on something that I'll put on YouTube. I feel YouTube is more of an archive thing, but I feel like the thing I'm doing now
Starting point is 00:53:55 is more like something. I'd be like, yeah, I'd help do that. And it was well worth it. I'd still like to make animations and put them out there. But I would like to not be on, I would like not to be on somebody's fucking to-do list. Like, it's like, okay, you have to do this for me before I kick my bucket. Maybe I've done this game, I'll make some more. I don't know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:13 I think after doing three-minute videos for, five plus years I kind of in the mindset now I just want to make like 20, 30 minute videos you can't do that on YouTube
Starting point is 00:54:24 I don't mean to keep going but it's like another thing that bothers me and it's like you guys we all get this it's like if you don't animate
Starting point is 00:54:31 people are just like oh they don't animate anymore it's like just because we don't upload stuff online doesn't mean we're not animating
Starting point is 00:54:37 I think it's the biggest thing people assume that it's because we're not making videos we're doing anything we're doing more stuff
Starting point is 00:54:43 animation is like seriously 5% I'm animated I think I'm gonna do. Every fucking day for like eight hours. And then I find time for other stuff, but I still always go back to it every single fucking day.
Starting point is 00:54:53 It's like I'm not just like taking breaks. I've always, I think the best thing anybody can do is look at YouTube, look at the internet as a stepping stone and not a fucking bed. Yeah, treat it like the Bible. Honestly, now with the patrons and with the commissions that I have, YouTube is basically a dumping ground for me. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:55:12 That's all it is. Exactly. I mean, if I have a cute little idea, I want to fucking fart out. Yeah, I'll absolutely put it there. But for the most part, the things that I'm making, I'm making with my patrons, with, you know, the commissions that I have,
Starting point is 00:55:25 and hopefully there are things that I can share as well on the channel. But then also, then, you know, I don't want to say it on here, but then there's other opportunities that I've been exploring that are more television-based. And I love to share, you know, whatever I can with that. And it's also like, it's not so much that I'm done animating. It's like I'm done with YouTube. I would rather focus on Sleepy Cabin or my own shit.
Starting point is 00:55:44 I'm not focusing on YouTube. I want to do stuff for this, do stuff with you guys. It's like, I don't want to have to worry about making a silly cartoon for, like, someone who's, like, for a community who just fights for the funniest comments. YouTube goes out of their way to ignore animators. Yeah, no, absolutely. Unless you're, like, verified and they know who you are. Just so sad. You get a fucking gold star.
Starting point is 00:56:03 It's so sad. These people, these animators, they put in so much fucking effort. Yeah, there's a lot of really good animators. They don't have to be such uncaring cunts. Like, they could do something to help an animator. outfit. I mean, it's Google. They're a multi-billion dollar company. They don't fucking care. They could help out the animators in their own way.
Starting point is 00:56:20 They could, yeah. But it's funny, like, I would ever complain about myself or any of us, but the truth is there are people that have it so much worse. People who put in more time than us who make longer... Absolutely. Who are fucking, you know, they graduate from Goebbels or whatever, and they're, you know, getting like a thousand views. Would it make YouTube
Starting point is 00:56:36 more attractive if there was just, if they just encouraged a little more variety to stuff? I said, I don't know if they care. It would be better if there was two systems. There was one specifically for the kind of stuff like where you can get content out a lot and then like an artsy side where it's like it focuses So there's like two sides. There's an art side and then there's like the really video side You know what they're gonna go for the money. They're always gonna go for the money The gaming is like taking over YouTube just like Twitch like Twitch like Twitch used to also have Justin TV
Starting point is 00:57:02 Well guess what they drop Justin TV and then they just had Twitch that's exactly what I mean And then you couldn't even animate on Twitch I would say that But at the point of me saying that I would be on my LSD trip Like fucking like going through visions of my head They're coming out of my head I'm just like wouldn't this be great? Oh man let's go back in time Where everything was good again
Starting point is 00:57:22 And it's like it's not gonna happen They see the numbers They see numbers They they and that's what they go for They could not give a rat's ass How much time and effort And care you put into something They want their money
Starting point is 00:57:32 The end If anything, it's not even There's gonna be a second system It's that they're weeding out the bullshit They're like okay You don't you don't make our requirements You're gone These guys make our requirements
Starting point is 00:57:43 That's why we get money you guys fucking come in. You're like, it's like a kid. It's like, um, it's like a thing where it's like, someone does a really good, like, that they come in and they like have all this stuff to present. And then they're like, but they're, um, you know, they're not as cool.
Starting point is 00:57:59 So it's like, you're just like, uh, then the other, they're like really cool kid who's like, yeah, just put this out here, you know. Dude, in five years, but he's rich, so you want to be his friend. YouTube is going to be 99%, um, game footage or gameplay stuff. It should be game. Grinch videos.
Starting point is 00:58:14 and that's really I feel like 95% of it is going to be like fucking compilations and video game games yeah top tens and shit news bloopers and real's tits hang it out with 40 million views I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:58:26 I really think that and it might even be pretty damn close to that right now I think the best bet for anybody who uses the internet pretty much is like a portfolio I think I don't think the internet's quite there yet
Starting point is 00:58:36 it's it's like a it's we're getting there but I think at this point you should use the internet as a step of you still to come back when you have a steady job. Don't expect to make steady income off the internet. I'm saying
Starting point is 00:58:48 there's somebody who did for a little bit, but you can't... You mean as an animator? Well, I guess as anybody do, because vloggers who got their story to YouTube who became really rich. Like, Rayleigh of Johnson, who did equals 3, he quit his thing, but I can't imagine his career last year, which he loved.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Do you know anybody who's not, like, non-animators that start out well? Personally not... That aren't doing well now. That just totally Oh, there's so many. What the buck was huge on YouTube. I trustee, Fred, all these guys. All these guys, like, scraped like 10,000 views now.
Starting point is 00:59:20 Yeah, you see, like, Shane Dawson, who is at the top of the charts. And you see Shane Dawson, and he's grabbing any parody you can. Let me pose this question, which is actually 100. How many guys can you name who started online who are actually big now in doing what they wanted to do? And all in traditional media. Not still online. The only one I can name is Bob Burnham. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Bob Boone is the only one I can think of. Wait, what, that does what? That started off on YouTube, it actually moved on to what he wanted to do in traditional media. So film... Justin Bieber? Hmm. He was on YouTube. Yeah, he was on YouTube sensation.
Starting point is 00:59:58 The annoying oranges on television, isn't it? Cancels. He got canceled. He gets 10,000 views up for video, pretty much. Who? Oh. Yeah. This is kind of a different note.
Starting point is 01:00:07 I'm not going to keep going on this, but I'm going to say, like, I feel like, unless... I'll say it like this. If YouTube went down, if you could find a job elsewhere, I think those are the people who will thrive. If you're an animator, you have a talent, you can do something,
Starting point is 01:00:20 you can work in a studio, you can do whatever. But a lot of these guys who are vloggers who can only... Let's players, too. People who can only, only, only get in the audience if they're constantly job cutting,
Starting point is 01:00:30 those guys can't find to be actors. They only work in that setting. And I feel like they should recognize that they're on a fucking timer. The epic meal time guys, they got like a show but they get canceled or something. Oh, really?
Starting point is 01:00:41 All those guys get their five minutes fade, and maybe they do a couple of independent movies or something, and I think they fade away. And you see them in 10 years, it's like, did they end up like fucking MC Hammer? It's just that could be. When they hit it big for a little bit, they explode down.
Starting point is 01:00:55 My biggest, my barometer for how I like to judge it is basically this. When I'm an old man, and I'm talking to like my little grand nephews or whatever, when I explained to them what I did during that period of time, that they would be like, oh, that's awesome.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Like, I can show them what I did. And that they would appreciate it. That I can look back and be like, I did this thing. Rather than, like, I look back and I'm like, I don't know. What was I doing? That was popular at the time of whatever, you know. So let's move on. Next question for Chris.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Where's Demon Vault? I don't know. All right, next question. Next question. Oh, yeah, by the way, the previous question, thank Prophylaxis for that one. Yeah, nice. YouTube algorithm question. I try to mix it up a bit here so that I'll get
Starting point is 01:01:42 Um Get a lulsy one Mick Anywhere in Malaysia you like Any any good places to visit Who asked me that? Amma Hey I can get this
Starting point is 01:01:53 Hold on I'm in Zamoranan Amma Zumaradan Radadan I don't know how to say it Any places in Malaysia I like? Mick what part of Malaysia did you stay in I'm from Malaysia and would really love to know your favorite spots back when you stayed there
Starting point is 01:02:09 Well, I went to school in Umpong. I went to ISKL, and so I was in Kualympur. And then when I went back in 2005, I was staying in Penang. I don't know. I just like Malaysia. Southeast Asia? So it's in Asia. It's above Singapore.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Okay. I didn't know. I was thinking it was somewhere in South Korea. You know, I really liked downtown K.L., especially when I went back. I mean, when I was there as a kid, it was still kind of like grungy. open sewers and shit. But I do remember on my way to school, there was this big reservoir thing,
Starting point is 01:02:45 and I remember a kid pulling up dead fish from this ground river thing, putting him in buckets and stuff. Yeah. But I went back in 2005, and it was pristine. It was beautiful. I love Malaysia. Trista 2 asks,
Starting point is 01:03:00 what's the best advice you can give to a 17-year-old who was about to turn 18 as a legal adult? Use condoms. Do you have any bad news? Any stories about that? Just saying to use condom. All right. I have advice.
Starting point is 01:03:17 This guy's still in high school, I'm assuming. Yeah, I have advice. So I would say, none of your life matters. Everything before you doesn't matter. High school, you're going to forget about within one year. Have fun. Yeah, don't change anything you have going on right now. Like, continue to live off your parents and take, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:34 because I'm assuming, but I'm assuming, but I'm assuming that they're on their parents like, uh... Well, they're 17 years old. Yeah, like medical stuff so they can like go out and do like specific things that would help him in life. On your 21st birthday, don't drink 21 shots like an asshole. I would say this.
Starting point is 01:03:53 If you're going to, if you're going, I just speaking where I'm experienced as friends of mine, if you're going to school for like a teaching degree or education, don't get caught underage drinking. That's bad. Yeah. Yeah, I was going to say, That fucks you for life. You know, this is advice that I don't even have from my own life.
Starting point is 01:04:10 It's advice that I'm observing for new lives coming into this world. But everything is recorded. So don't just, you know, look, I'm not saying you need to watch out for Big Brother, though you kind of do now. But just remember, like, if you're going to get a job, like, if you want to be a lawyer one day or you want to be anything where your credibility is critical. It's all the line. Yeah. Yeah. Just don't, don't do that fucking skinny dipping.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Yeah. Think, don't sleep, don't credit to take advantage of that drunk girl at the party. Don't do what I did. You know what I did? Everything will come back. Everything is going to come back to haunt you. Let me tell you something very important to life. Have good credit because it affects you in the future.
Starting point is 01:04:52 That's a real good. I can tell you right now if you think credit is something you should ignore. Hold on, hold on. Let me just say from experience that I took credit for granted. I took ages ago in 2009, I pulled it alone. because my mom needed it, so I pulled out the loan because, like, she needed money at the time, so I was like, okay, I'll pull it a loan. She was paying for it, but there was a time where she just couldn't pay for it, so it's like,
Starting point is 01:05:14 okay, I'll pay for it. But this is when I didn't have a job. I was kind of freelance animating for, like, YouTube and shit, and it was a bill that was, I had paid off, like, half of it, so I only owed $500. Stupid enough, I was just like, they would send a thing. They'd be like, you're dropping, like, you're going to be in juvenile, or not juvenile, fugitive something for your loan score and I was just like
Starting point is 01:05:40 I was like fucking do your worst I'm not if I ain't paying you 500 I got shit to worry about I got phone bills I got rent I'm like suck my dick I haven't been at school and fucking like four years kiss my ass I was like oh super cool I almost thought of smoking cigarettes so what ended up fucking happening was I tried to get a place and I paid it off
Starting point is 01:06:00 as of recently yeah this is like a year ago I paid it off but here Here's a thing, you can't just pay off credit. If you were dropping credit score, paying off something. You have to work your score back up. It's like, good job, you got credit. But here's the fucking kickoff. Like here's where it fucks you.
Starting point is 01:06:19 Once you're in the red, I don't know how you can get back from it. Because in order to get a credit card, you have to at least be in your bills. You need to, look, seriously, what I did, which is very stupid, which couldn't build good credit, but I didn't do this. I paid for my car in full. Okay. a very, very bad idea that does not build credit. No, you want to get a credit card and you want to pay it off
Starting point is 01:06:41 every month. Exactly. I hate it. I hate it. You get a car and pay the bills every month. They need to make using a credit card as easy as using a debit card to encourage you to use your credit card because I can just pay with my debit card and it's done with with a credit card you pay and oh, you have to
Starting point is 01:06:57 remember to go into the account and pay it off. You don't pay that bill. You get fucked with... Or you get an angry phone call, angry phone call from the bank. Oh, you've I have the money to pay it off. I just forgot. It's like, I'll fuck this. I'm just using my debit card. So my credit probably isn't bad, but it probably isn't good either. It's just zero neutral.
Starting point is 01:07:13 That's the thing for me. My credit is abysmal. And I'm not, right now I'm working on going to the credit bureau and getting my fucking birth certificate because I don't have that on me. So it's a fucking huge hassle, but it's definitely something you should never overlook. Never overlook your credit. It is very important
Starting point is 01:07:30 in life. If you want to get a fucking loan, if you want to get a fucking apartment. Even if you have the money. Because I have the money. I have first months, last month's rent, and I have rent for days and fucking years. But the problem is it doesn't matter. You need good credit in order to get an apartment. Another piece of advice turning 18 is to try to travel if you can. Travel cheap. Try to find international friends that are around. You can crash on their pads or whatever. But this is a good time to go do it before you got to hunker down and get a job and you get roped to the ground. So while you're a chain,
Starting point is 01:08:04 is untethered, I'd say try to travel as much as you can. That's a really good advice. Yeah. I'm glad I got to do a little bit of that. Even if it's just cross-country. Go on a trip. Go see stuff. Go places you never went before and if you can bring a friend
Starting point is 01:08:19 and if you can go see friends and do all that before you come back and go get locked down. Yeah. And like you said, avoid any like stupid felony shit. Like do what you're supposed to. Don't commit.
Starting point is 01:08:34 If you're doing something you're not supposed to, be smart about where you do it. Like, if you're doing quote-unquote drugs, you should do them in a place where you're not going to get caught. Yeah. Don't do them at the club. Don't do them in your car. Don't do them and then go out. On your way to the club. Don't be a fucking idiot.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Yeah. If you're not supposed to do something, don't fucking do something. Or if you do something, be smart about it. I have a pressing question. Okay. from self-proclaimed sir. Is that a real name? Yes.
Starting point is 01:09:06 This is a birthday. Mr. Self-Preclaim. He came out. What is the most important part of a sandwich? Either the, I would, I'm talking between the meat or the cheese. I'll tell you what. Cheese always hangs me up because I can never decide between sharp cheddar and problone. I'm not about you guys.
Starting point is 01:09:23 I'm doing Swiss lately. It's always good. The most important part of a sandwich? What's the sandwich? That's easy. That's easy. Exactly. Chris.
Starting point is 01:09:29 Chris nailed the coffee. He buried it and gave his mornings Yeah, but just salad went out the bread Exactly You make little meat and cheese roll-ups It's weird I don't like having like cheese and meat it's like you get the bread You have that fucking like delicious sandwich say what you're holding it you can hold it you don't just eat fucking like you don't just mold it I guess you could make a meat like a meat and cheese burrito but I'm telling you the bread sometimes makes a sandwich
Starting point is 01:09:54 Certain like like ingredients like certain flavors go really good at the subway and get the herb and cheese bread Yeah No dude Dude the fucking Like special bread Like cheesy bread and stuff Yeah that one Herbie cheese
Starting point is 01:10:07 Oh my god Why? Just keep this concise Hevni Krishna Asked basically Um Alright if you were to just Pitch a TV show again
Starting point is 01:10:14 Like say tomorrow What would you do differently From how you originally did it Okay so how we originally did it was Bentley We went in Fucking with our Our body language
Starting point is 01:10:24 Was horrible for one thing We were looking down at the floor We were scared You had your life Replicate like cutouts of you We didn't do, like, fool. Well, I guess we kind of did. We kind of practiced the pitch, but we didn't do it enough.
Starting point is 01:10:36 But I would say, we did a couple of these wrong. You know, the more time goes on, the more I realize how he fucked up. I would say, actually, the biggest thing is, don't walk in there with the ego. Yeah. We walked in there with that. We didn't have any ego. Let me clear upon. An ego in the sense, not like I'm a big deal, but, like, in the sense, what's like, I'm not going to punch.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Is that the problem? Was it? You were not humble? Oh, yeah. No, no. It wasn't that. It was, like, in a sense. We were being to.
Starting point is 01:11:00 Like pride full of pride Okay, there wasn't even that I'm willing to negotiate Yeah exactly But if you walk into a place They go fuck you, get out Yeah Like if
Starting point is 01:11:10 You're gonna have to Fucking budge on something Like the first time I would say pick What'd you go Okay, I'm sticking to this Everything else I can kind of talk to But no this is why we didn't budge
Starting point is 01:11:19 They were like Okay we've already got a show called Like Hell faggot Whatever They were like we need to change It was Yeah they were like
Starting point is 01:11:26 We want you to change The name of Hellbenders We were like no And they were like fine Whatever Yeah, it's just like, oh, okay You know what, if we went back now, it would be like, yeah, let's just call it the Gooseberry Brothers.
Starting point is 01:11:35 It's a stupid, it's a stupid title. But I would just say, be willing to negotiate. Don't walk in with it. When I say ego, I don't mean in a sense when it's like, I'm a big deal. You know who I am. I mean in a sense where it's like, look, let me just do my idea.
Starting point is 01:11:48 Because you're going to have every show on TV has fucking been negotiating. Or realistically. Always saw it was originally going to be about fucking actors in Hollywood, but the network is like that's a bad idea. Make them guys and felled up you. Like, you have to have.
Starting point is 01:12:00 I think it's good to have a certain amount of pride in terms of, like, that you're proud of what you are bringing to the table. But I understand what you're saying. There's a level. I'm not saying, be there a bitch, but I'm also saying, don't sit there and go, I'm not going to budge. You have to be willing to fucking talk because they're just not going to look with you. I guess if you were doing your pitch, if I could say anything, you walk in and you just be humble to anything they sort of say. We were humble. Chris and I, we weren't like, hey, look at me.
Starting point is 01:12:27 No, no, I'm not saying. No, I don't know. me, but like, they're... You definitely have to say, okay, I'll work with you on this, I'll work with you on that. Here's a question. There's a healthy balance. What's your question?
Starting point is 01:12:40 Sorry, were we... No, go for us. All right. Well, this kind of ties into something earlier. Zach had a little back and forth with a mongloid on YouTube about some guys accused him of selling out.
Starting point is 01:12:52 All of us. And this question, yeah, I know, this... All of us? Uh-huh. This... Specially you, Mick. Sudo-intellectual cunt that plays the guitar. gets like three views per video. But anyway,
Starting point is 01:13:01 a fucking failure that will be forgotten by the annals of history. You know who you are. You're not who you are. You know who you are. Holy shit. Next question. Yeah, this guy said Roasted Six asks,
Starting point is 01:13:12 how would you guys define selling out? Giving up on your beliefs to make money. It's very, very, he just got it. Doing something you would not normally do in exchange for money. That's it. That's it. That's it. The end. Next question. Okay. That is pretty. selling T-shirt is okay.
Starting point is 01:13:27 It's okay. Selling a shirt is okay. Selling your work, A-OK. Selling your work. That's something... That's something... That's something people... That's funny. That's funny, because that's something people think.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Like, to go on it... Like, people think, like, oh, you're selling your own merchandise, you fucking sell out. They don't understand the concept that you're making... Making money off your own stuff. It's not selling out. And people are giving it their own money for it. Yeah, people... It's their choice.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Yeah, it's like you're not selling, like, little... Like, it's not like fucking, like, a... Dragon Ball Pee on Doritos cups and shit. It's not... It's not... I do that too I wouldn't fucking give a shit yeah yeah but I mean but you would endorse Doritos you but I like the product I would do it exactly I would genuinely like I you're not no but you're not gonna do something like you're not gonna endorse you
Starting point is 01:14:12 no you're not gonna endorse Ben Gay or something fucking like to me and said look I want to put Goku's fucking retired face on our window I'd say fuck you radio shit in the shitty store I'm glad you're dying what if they wanted to put it on like their Halloween RC cars I would say go away you're a bad store stop asking me a million questions, we're trying to buy something. You know when you're selling out because you can feel it in your bones. If you're doing it solely, if you know that you would not ever even consider doing it until they gave you the price tag, then there's a very good chance at selling it. I don't even care.
Starting point is 01:14:44 Like, the way I see it is, if you're making something pure that you like, let's say a video game or a movie. And if somebody comes along as well, you know, we just want to sell toys of this. It's almost like the core product is something pure that you like. Look, yeah. And they're just offering you a bunch of money to sell a bunch of shit. Kids will buy any... Another thing is... It doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:15:04 You know product placement in movies? Yeah. If the product placement doesn't affect your immersion, it's not selling out. That is incredibly important. Like, when growing up, when you watch so many comedy movies, you don't realize the subtlety of the product placement because it's not the main focus. The main focus is the joke. That's tough, though, because it's like almost now people are almost on the lookout for it.
Starting point is 01:15:22 Anytime they see anything with the name on it, they're like, oh, that's... Yeah, but also, sometimes there's, like, fake brands and you're like, that's... Stupid. Yeah, yeah. Then again, there's also like, it's not, people are looking for it, but it's also like how much, it's like, Kristen, how much in your face is it? Like, if you're shameless. I hate what I want to see movies. It's like, let's go to Blitz de Wall andals. Yeah, yeah. Transformers 4 was fucking obnoxious. Yeah, but I saw it was a scene. It was terrible. The fucking the dude crashes his fish. The fucking blue Budweiser scene. And he comes out, he comes out, he cracks it. It's like, ah, and he drinks. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. World War Z. Brad Pitt gets chased by zombies and he locks him behind the door and he walks over to a pristine Pepsi machine and he takes one and a half and drinks it.
Starting point is 01:16:05 And the background is like this disgusting orange background. So the red... It's a zombie pops that's a pristine can still somehow. I don't have anybody seen it, but if any of you want to look up there's a clip on YouTube of a guy, what shows that from? It was from one of the, it was like from Hawaii 5-0 or the guys eating subway sandwiches. Oh, God, I saw that. Yeah, yeah, the guys just sit there. I love the fucking camera It's like it literally
Starting point is 01:16:27 It's like a fucking detective thing And he's like hey what are you eating He's like oh I'm just I'm just seeing this chicken sandwich It's really good He's got it for 6505 All the music is like The girl's like well really
Starting point is 01:16:40 You know Everybody's explaining He's like It's not what you think You can actually get a deal right now It's so good If you can cut the scene out If you can cut the scene out
Starting point is 01:16:52 If you can cut the scene out and double it as the actual ad that's when you know it's product placement like the thing with World War II and the Pepsi thing that could easily be a commercial just snip it out and put it right there the guy had like fucking like six sub subway sandwich it wasn't just one
Starting point is 01:17:07 it was like six of them like he was doing a fucking taste test they took the fattest guy on the show he was like eight and our pals and he's talking about how healthy subway sandwiches are one kind of product placement I don't like is when they get like Shrek and he's like oh McDonald's milkshakes it's like you're ruining the immersion of that way absolutely
Starting point is 01:17:21 you don't want like Shrek going in And like... You tell me you don't like the Trek, it's a Shabrock shake? Yeah. I know, I hate that. Because it's like, why does he have McDonald's in his world? This fucking fairy tale lands. It's true.
Starting point is 01:17:32 It doesn't make sense. Chris, I hate to tell you, but Chuck is the real characters. He is! But you have to remember that funny joke, I'm making waffles. Waffles isn't in fantasy. Waffles is man-made. It's not fantasy made. Holy fuck, the immersion is gone.
Starting point is 01:17:45 I know. When he's like, I'm making waffles, and then he said garlic. He should have said, I'm making old potatoes mashed into a pan. Yeah, he's like, I'm making swamming. Swamp grass soup. If I was Shrek, I would have killed Duncan. This is important. We're talking about product placement.
Starting point is 01:18:03 Go for it. Wait, Jeff, let me ask you something. What? Out of all the recent movies you've seen, that aren't shitty garbage, not hot fucking sewage, like transformers and these fucking travesties, a movie you really liked
Starting point is 01:18:19 where it broke the immersion because it had a product placement that just felt really out of place at the time. Sorry, I know you have the... Go ahead, no, we can you name some movies. Well, I just watched Age of Ultron. Mm-hmm. And, look, it wasn't
Starting point is 01:18:32 crazy bad. I mean, they'd done it before, didn't they, with, like, Burger King or something? He's like, I'm gonna need a Burger King Burger, like Tony Stark. Oh, no, that was an Iron Man movie. Remember he needed a... When they found him, that he was in the desert?
Starting point is 01:18:45 Yeah, yeah, that's fine. That's what he would do. That's what you would do. If I was in the fucking deserts. So that didn't take me out, but it's weird because that didn't take me out. But that was clearly product placement, but that did not take me out. It seemed like a very Tony Stark thing to do.
Starting point is 01:18:56 Yeah. But at the end of Age of Ultron, no spoilers, don't worry, Scarlett gets a Skype message. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And it's so weird because that sound, and I get... It's a bird man, too. Is it?
Starting point is 01:19:11 Oh, yeah, yeah. In fact, when we're watching it, we all checked your Skype. Yeah, no, that's the thing. It's like, and even that is so subtle, and it's, you know, whatever, whether it's product placement or not. It doesn't really matter. And it shouldn't be. because technically it's just Skype.
Starting point is 01:19:23 You know what? We all use it. And guess what? They're using it too. It humanizes them. But in the same time, as soon as I heard that Skype sound, I would just like...
Starting point is 01:19:30 He said you just don't need to use Skype. Yeah, I just rolled my fucking eyes. Like, uh... Dude, I'll say to ask what I saw... There was a guy... There's a point where the hacker, like, uploads a video to YouTube and puts it out of it. That movie was like...
Starting point is 01:19:43 Fucking trash. Yeah, the hacker's like... Can I say something? The hacker, dude? I really... I really hate that fucking cliche. If somebody uploading something to... a YouTube type thing.
Starting point is 01:19:54 Oh, and then it gets a bunch of views. I hate that cliche. That fucking lady M, she's like, we're ruined and it has like nine views. It's like, yeah, you're really not. She's just deleted. Because it's like, if it's like that, it's like these videos get like obnoxiously high view. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That happened in what
Starting point is 01:20:10 kick ass? Yeah. Every single movie. I hate that. That shows YouTube. It always has like 50 million views and like four likes. It's like, yeah. It's not. Yeah, it's not even. It's not even a realistic number. It's just like, yeah, exactly. It's like, It's a fucking a billion. Look, movies. It's always like one-tenth the likes of the views.
Starting point is 01:20:26 Just fucking learn that. Thank you. Amen. How do you guys feel about AI technology? It's creepy. Jeff, I'm going to build a robot version of you and fuck it so it's not gay because it's not you. All right. Next question.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Next question. Would it be... Sorry, a 404 life non-found to ask that. All right, next question. Ari Lezima asks, would you be okay with making a sleepie cast animated but instead of animated? actors represented your stories. That'd be awesome.
Starting point is 01:20:54 That'd be cool. Good. And to really play off our stereotypes. Specifically, Ryan Gosling, um, uh,
Starting point is 01:21:04 Tom Hanks for Jeff. John Oliver. You have to get John Oliver. I will not sign on to this fucking deal without John Oliver. Uh, I want Channing CGM,
Starting point is 01:21:14 Cidtankham. I know, I always do this thing where I snap my fingers and violently pointed somebody. You should be played by that guy for dressing. Mark who drops the canister down the hill. Do you know what I want to do?
Starting point is 01:21:26 I want to walk on set with John Oliver. Wait, do you mean? And I want to act like I don't know where I am. Hold on night? That's great. I want to walk on stage with John Oliver when he's doing his comedy bit. And he's like, you get comedy bit. And I want to walk on, act like I don't know where I am.
Starting point is 01:21:41 And then hide my face. So I'm wearing like my, I'm wearing like one of those like hoodies and stuff. And then when he comes over, when he comes over, I want to lift it up and be like, Dad? Yeah. Exactly I want to be like dad Caller he'd be a bad idea Callie find a big like huge
Starting point is 01:21:56 Like a wicker basket like a massive wicket And then go to his doorstep and like lay a blanket Goethe and run the doorbell Wait for the answer We should make a video called John Oliver Makes Out With Ryan Gosling and just have you guys kiss No wait wait wait wait okay No I don't want to be Ryan Gosling
Starting point is 01:22:10 Okay I want Ryan Gosling to fuck a girl And I want Owen Wilson to fuck another girl Yeah and one of them have a baby boy And one of them a baby girl and watch them grow And then they fuck and I want to be played by that kid Got it Okay, Owen Wilson? Owen Wilson?
Starting point is 01:22:23 Why, Owen Wilson? Why don't you just cut the chase? Why don't you just have Ryan Gosling fuck Owen Wilson and then make a baby? Maybe. Maybe, baby. If someone plays John Oliver, I want him to play a deaf person. I'm pregnant with a baby, a punch him in the car.
Starting point is 01:22:39 I want a deaf person to voice dubbed John Oliver. Why? My name is Corey. Why? Why, Corey? Stop smiling like a child. Tim Fancy, you fucking idiot.
Starting point is 01:22:52 Because it would be funny, I want John Oliver to be talking normally and be like, I'm qualified. Moving on! Let's get out of here, dude. What a day. You cannot deny it that would it be funny. John Oliver talking normally with a deaf person. Jacksosaurus asks, what's your ideal coffee like?
Starting point is 01:23:13 Iced, extra sugar, etc. Very, very dark coffee with some Frencholette cream. Easy. That's it. One big strawberry. Easy. I get it all the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:24 Just like if I make it like a, on a brewer, normal. Just cook it up, make it and then drink it. But if I go order it at a place. Black? Yeah. Black. Yeah. Normally.
Starting point is 01:23:36 But if I go to something like Dunkins, there's a specific thing I want. I want turbo. I want a smidgen of cream and no sugar. And either large or extra large. But I don't want extra large anymore because I mean, I fucking ranted about why I want extra large. Right. You know what?
Starting point is 01:23:49 It's true. It's a cartoon with a Corey Ranimout coffee. I ordered an extra large recently. That's a good movie cabin animated. I like it. Black, thick, rich sludge. I'm not going to make a joke here, so stop it, make. And if I do go to Starbucks,
Starting point is 01:24:04 if I have to, I will generally always order a clover press. It's a reverse French press apparently or something. It has very low acidity, and it's a little bit more expensive, and it takes a while for them to make, but it's fucking tasty. I'm a fan of
Starting point is 01:24:19 cappuccino with a little bit of cream and that's it. All right. Yeah. You just can't have too much cream. If it's cheap, if it's cheap coffee, I will add sugar. It cheapens the value of your coffee. Yeah, if I go to take it down there or something, they all have like cream and sugar, but I like a big fat coffee club. Shekelstein asks, sorry.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Who came up with the idea of all living in the same place and how were you all convinced to live there? What idea that just like happened over? We were all friends. You want to live with your friends, I mean, Jeff already lived here. Newgrounds is in the area. I moved here. Stamper was already working in Newgrounds. This wasn't like, this wasn't like
Starting point is 01:24:53 A plan. Like the good old boys And we all planned this when we were younger. This was just something that happened. It was just a series of events. I knew Chris. I knew Stamper. I just moved in with Stamper when Hans was there and then Chris came. I was there before you. Chris was there before me. Stamper grabbed the house. It was me
Starting point is 01:25:11 Stamper and Mike, I think, and Joy, I think. Wait a lot, she was enjoyed. It's like if you have a big boot on and you step in a pile of shit And then you try to rub the shit off in the grass. You know what happens? It collects a bunch of grass. So essentially, just more people just gathered like a boulder, like a snow boulder. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:28 I think what it was, I think more or less what it was. It was one of these things. It was kind of a snowball effect. What basically happened was what I remember, this is, I don't know if this is, but this is just from my point of view. When I came, Chris was staying with Hans and it was Hans, you and Stamper and Mick. That's what it was. What?
Starting point is 01:25:46 Me? No. To Chris, it was Hans, Stamper, Mick. I wasn't here? Mike. Sorry, I don't know why I said that twice. But yeah. And then Mike left, and Zach had already been here.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Zach, I wanted Zach to come because, like, you could work with Chris. And it was just way easier for you just come and live here. So then Chris... I mean, there was points where I'd come up, like, I visited here for like four months in a time pretty much. Yeah, and Jeff has always been next door neighbors of that house. And in Shad game, I'm always around. He's all the time, man. And then Shad and Lewis moved in.
Starting point is 01:26:19 Yeah, then Shad came. Shad came where he was looking for a place, and I'm like, you should totally come here. And he was like, yeah, okay. And I was like, oh, all right, I didn't know if he would because it was kind of like... That's what happened with Stamper me. He just offered out of nowhere. And I was like, cool. But it was cool.
Starting point is 01:26:32 I'll admit, I thought Shadman was going to be a total psycho. I thought I was like, are you really going to let him move in here? No, it's one of those things. But he ended up being like the nicest guy ever. No, it's that, it's that rule where it's like the people who draw the most vile or fucked up stuff are the most coolest people you'll meet. Yeah, and the people who draw the most baby shit are the most fucking disgusting.
Starting point is 01:26:50 Yeah, all the creepyest, like, introverse autists. No offense. They, like, they're the kind of people who, like, fucking, yeah. They, like, step on cat heads and have people spit on them for fun, for sexual gratification. Specifically, the door to explore.
Starting point is 01:27:07 Any person, what I'm basically saying is anyone who's ever made friendly, family stuff, no. On the internet, at least. You know, it's one of those things where it's like, no, it's not that kind of stuff. It's like that awkward campiness where those jokes are just like, uh-huh, I'm not a 12-year-old, so I don't think it's funny.
Starting point is 01:27:23 But then that's not always true. You kind of got to pick and choose, but for the most part, I don't think it's like, it's just, I guess it's a cognitive bias, but it's a bias I've come to, like, understand over experience. I'm going to just choose to believe everybody who isn't offensive on the internet is a pedophile.
Starting point is 01:27:38 Yeah, no. Yeah, just play it that way. Williams all the way asks. Right. Yeah. People always at, people always say back in my day, or people always say back in the day,
Starting point is 01:27:48 everything was always better. Do you guys think anything has gotten better, or are you all cynical? If you're retarded enough to say that things were better 20 years ago, we had worse stuff than you're an idiot. No, things have absolutely gotten better. Anyone who says, oh, I used to be so much easier back then. Technology is better.
Starting point is 01:28:06 Some people are worse. The whole gaming industry is way worse than they used to be. My point is now you have every other good game from the other decades plus new games. Yeah, no, but what I'm saying, is like there's... My point is it makes those... Unless the country that you lived fell into a fucking... I would say...
Starting point is 01:28:20 You're hoping collapse. I would say it revolves around certain things. For his... Yeah, you have every movie, every piece of music, every video game from every decade. We're talking now, not decade prior. Talking now. I would say definitely some things are cut and dry, but I would say that a lot of things are much easier.
Starting point is 01:28:38 Yeah, most things are definitely better. Like phones. Phones are way easier now, but then there's like a payoff where you don't have as as charging. You recall the things that were great back then, you're recalling the best stuff, there were still fucking garbage. No, yeah, that's true, too. Like, the amount of good movies that still come out are probably pretty consistent, like,
Starting point is 01:28:56 Play of the Apsons. Yeah, no, that's also true. I also feel like it's kind of like, again, I'm using the term, but it's also like a bias because it's like things, it was like new ideas at the time, like they hadn't really been done before. Yeah. It was kind of like a new thing. That's also true too.
Starting point is 01:29:08 And then like since, it's like the bar has been so high for video games, even though it really shouldn't be. But there's just like invisible bar that no one really talks about But then it's like it actually does come up Where it's like games have advanced so far that they have this huge regiment where you need Like amazing graphics You need like realistic like animation and you need just like a fucking intense engine that can like It's not that I deny it I just think the numbers are really exactly
Starting point is 01:29:35 No no no but also like when a new game comes You're a little shit No, Corey The fucking when a new game comes out right Because it's a new game you have to put all this effort into photo re-retings. Like, quit doing your best troll face. I'm not impressed. Okay, go on Chris. Are we done here? You're not done here.
Starting point is 01:29:55 Stop fucking gator to your face, dude. I don't think I ever think back about like... Wait, I wasn't... No, Chris, it's something to say. I wanted to say, but we can't know though. He's gonna keep laughing. Every time you're gonna start talking, it's gonna have that. Go ahead, Chris.
Starting point is 01:30:09 Look at Chris. This little troll. Chris, go ahead. What I'm trying to say here. is fucking when a game comes out now photo realistic graphics take a lot of time to make right? Oh yeah And the photo realistic graphics and production values
Starting point is 01:30:22 And the sound design and all this stuff Masks a badly designed game Way like a lot So all these games like are designed very poorly But people don't seem to notice because They don't really know what they're getting into Yeah What did you think would happen when you're playing land
Starting point is 01:30:35 I guess it's also I guess that kind of cuts into something I kind of wanted to talk about Yeah Is like this is something I want to talk about you, Jeff. It's kind of like an idea. I get some of to segue into it is, um, since we have all these
Starting point is 01:30:49 cut and dry stuff where it's like, oh, we get the same you know, I'm someone who hasn't really gotten into the series, but oh, call of duty, it's all the same. We get the same gray matter, the same boring fucking like cut and shoot or I duck, I shoot. I get hit once, I'm dead on the ground and then someone comes over and stabs me. It's like, you get
Starting point is 01:31:06 that. I am completely biased when I say this, but it's like people feel that we live in this gray area where it's like, oh, everything's so real. I remember when it was just fucking four polygons And we had fun And it's like Now things come out
Starting point is 01:31:20 And they bring back the stuff that we remember And it's kind of like it makes you wonder Like it's like a game comes out Like for instance the Banja Kizui guys are coming out They're making a new Banger Kizui game Which I'm completely four I think it's fucking amazing
Starting point is 01:31:32 But I also have doubts That it's like It's been too long Stuff has come this way And it's like I don't necessarily want the same Bandozzii experience Well also did the government
Starting point is 01:31:42 Did he do a Kickstarter who gave it to that horror? No, it was the fucking, like, executive producer who did it. It wasn't even the real Mega Man guy, but I think what it was... Did he get, like, truly... Did he got a bunch of money?
Starting point is 01:31:52 What it comes down to is, I feel like nostalgia glass is fog. A lot of people's, like, memory of what they remember a game used to be, and it's like movies, too. Like, people announce Zoolander 2, and I fucking rolled my eyes. I'm like, yeah, okay,
Starting point is 01:32:05 you're gonna get the same enjoyment you got from Zoolander 2. And then, like, I thought dumb and dumber was gonna be trash. I was right. The sequel's awful. but it's like what I'm basically saying is
Starting point is 01:32:15 I feel like people want the old stuff because it was more simpler back then but like you know like it's nostalgia yeah yeah there's a lot of nostalgia
Starting point is 01:32:26 cloning just Jeff you're something something yeah the original programmer uh... create slash co-creator of the symphony of the night he released a Kickstarter today
Starting point is 01:32:36 oh what day's today the 5-11 should I bring up do you remember do you guys know what the name of it is. I didn't even know about this.
Starting point is 01:32:45 The Symphony. It's game designers kickstarting games, man. Man, hold on. I got to talk about this for a second. Shovel Night was Kickstarter. Okay, that's fine. That one gets a past.
Starting point is 01:32:53 No, I know, I don't mean indie. I mean actual game designers, like, from the past doing it. You know what it comes down to? It's like, oh, oh, that one guy did, like, core art design for it's going to be the best game. But he wasn't the one who animated it.
Starting point is 01:33:08 He wasn't the one who did the music. Games are a collaborative effort. Exactly. I was always like the costume designer for Robocop. It's like, cool. You weren't the writer though. No, exactly. And that's what people don't seem to realize.
Starting point is 01:33:21 It's like, but they see that. They're like, perhaps you didn't know. This guy was the makeup designer for one of the new Marvel movies. And it's just like, and he's doing a Kickstarter for a fucking Marvel, like, its own like Marvel breakaway, like its own superhero story. And he didn't make up for it. But it's like, okay. But it's like you're not going to get the same like validity.
Starting point is 01:33:42 Oh my god, it's already funded. Yeah, yeah, here's the thing. So games are like... That's what I'm talking about. It was just a programmer. I didn't even thought. What? It's like...
Starting point is 01:33:51 Yeah, all right. So, Caledalvania is Symphony the Night. This game is called Bloodstained Ritral of the Night. Terrible. It looks exactly... It has, it's basically a carbon copy of Castlevania. The main character is the same color scheme as Alucard from Symphony of the Night.
Starting point is 01:34:10 Yeah. Um... They were asking for... They're already up to a mill. Do you know that? Yeah, they're up to half a million. And one day, they're up to a million, nearly a million now in one day. They pitched this thing with one bad Photoshop screens, one bad,
Starting point is 01:34:26 mocked up screenshot. And that's it. They just took a still from Symphony the night. There was one guy. It's one drawing. There was one guy called Paper Bat, who is a YouTuber who was a YouTuber who did a Kickstarter for a game called Project Roxavia. And all he did was
Starting point is 01:34:44 Released Concept Art. He took, he got like $13,000 and ran with the money. He ran with it. Never fucking said a word about it. Then he didn't... He's like a a let's player. Yeah, and he didn't. He's doing another Kickstarter for a Dipper game. And he never finished the first one. No.
Starting point is 01:35:00 Didn't, I didn't finish him. We just ignored it pretty much. Jeff, do you see what I mean? Like, people latch onto that. They're like, oh, this guy coded. Oh, this design looks like they were... They badly... I understand they're not. I understand what they want, but it's like looking at... It's like, you look at this and you just question everything about it almost.
Starting point is 01:35:20 You know, like the one piece of concept art, there's one, there's one enemy design, which is basically a lionhead with like five legs sticking out of it. I think this... You're going to make a Kickstarter for a game, at least in a fucking playable demo or something around this is going to be... I don't want to sound like... What the fuck is that? Show me.
Starting point is 01:35:36 I don't want to sound rude. What the fuck is that? What the fuck is that? This is what they're selling the game with. I don't want to sound rude, but I feel like this is going to sound rude, but I don't like this is gonna be the Mighty Number 9 effect. Yeah, it is. Where they have stuff, because let me tell you something,
Starting point is 01:35:48 Mighty Number 9 had really awesome looking concept art of what potentially it was going to be, but when it was fucking released, it was like, it looks like this awful-cut-based mobile game. So what happened? What was the end result of this? Disaster, and it looks nothing like the original concept. They're not getting the game that they paid for. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:05 I, I, uh, uh, two things you're saying. I avoid ever donated to two Kickstarter things. things. One was, I can't remember one of them. The second one was, I think, a documentary anything called, like, Fight for Space or Flight for Space. I didn't do that one. Yeah, you got it. Dude, what the fuck? That was, like, three years ago, dude. I think the thing is that guy, at least there's still proof he's working on it. He always, I always get emails from that where it's like, hey, it's, but I'm still like,
Starting point is 01:36:30 man, that was like three years ago. But then he made a second Kickstarter. I was like, I'm not doing it. Oh, for the more money. Yeah, I didn't get into that. I was like, dude, I really appreciate the cars, and I really appreciate all the people you have but at some point you just need to fucking put it. I feel like the hardest thing is these people just don't understand. Every time they try to set a budget, it should be like quadruple what I thought it was. Exactly because what happens with that guy, he was, he's not being disingenuous. He's not running into play.
Starting point is 01:36:53 But what happened was he was being too humble and asked for like half of what needed. So pretty much you cite, you fuck with the audience and then you don't get to do it and you kind of waste their money. Maybe you get a boost to do like half what you need to do, but it just kind of fucks everybody. Even with this Castlevania game, it's like if they would have just hit their half a million dollar budget, there's no way they would have able to finish it. Like, 4 million. Yeah, and he was still like, I can't finish it, sorry. No, yeah, you know, what happened was
Starting point is 01:37:17 it was, it was, it was a poor budget management and he didn't, he asked for more money because he couldn't, like, manage some fucking bucks. What was he originally asking for? I think it was something like, $200, $300,000, maybe, maybe $240,000, I believe. It was a couple hundred thousand, is the point. He got $4 million, was like, yes, so I can't do it.
Starting point is 01:37:36 But, you know, someone like, I guess it's weird because, like, you know, those guys, they make great games way forward. They did that thing for Shantay. And that game, like, you know, they're way forward. They made good games in the past. Very simplistic, like, their girls are cute, and they make these games. And it's, like, again, like, Skull Girls. They had a goal.
Starting point is 01:37:59 But they were very community-oriented, which is something not a lot of kickstaters can do, but they were already, like, in the community. So they would reveal stuff. They had artists who worked behind the scenes who would show off secret screenshots and it was just very like fun on its production. The reason Skull Girls got done is because the programmer
Starting point is 01:38:17 was very, very, very passionate about fighting games. He knew what he wanted. He knew how to make it. And they hired talented animators and they had a proper budget. It's pretty fucked up when people do a Kickstarter and then you change things after you get money. Like I know there was a series
Starting point is 01:38:34 called... Like a bait-in switch. There was a series called Bid Puppy Cat And they did a pilot And they did a Kickstarter for a series And they changed the character designs For no reason Yeah, no, that's something
Starting point is 01:38:45 For no reason It was a completely different It was a different But the character designs were changed And the art style was different And people didn't get money to that art still They gave it to the other one Yeah, I think one
Starting point is 01:38:56 And fucking 90% of the comments were like This is what happened To the art style I paid for I don't want to see this Dude that's it That's the mighty number nine effect It's disingenuous Is that the word
Starting point is 01:39:05 Disenenuine? Just not being genuine. Yeah, and that's what it is. They weren't being genuine. And when they released the product, it was nothing like they wanted. It was this like fucking fucking fucking... You don't get to change something once you get the money. You can change as much as you want before you get the money.
Starting point is 01:39:18 But after that, you're fucking locked in. All right, guys, listen, we got a lot more questions. Shut up. Shut up. Lighting round. Yeah. Oh! All right guys, we got a lot more questions to get through here, but I want to make sure...
Starting point is 01:39:32 Fuck. Go. All right. This is going to a little bit late here, but we want to make sure we get through as many questions as we can, all right? So we're going to hit up a little bit of a lightning round. All right, you guys ready? Here are the rules, here the rules. Answer lots of questions.
Starting point is 01:39:49 Fuck your tangents. Let's go. You know, tangents, go. All right, here we go. Big dick, big tits, go. Afrodicus asks, if any of you had children, how when, when you expose them to the internet. I'd whack them. I'd whack them again.
Starting point is 01:40:04 Fuck kids. Yeah, no kids. No, no, I'm not interested in. Not literally. Yeah, kids. Unless they're asking for. Unless they're sure that I ask. Introduce them to the internet with a 14.
Starting point is 01:40:13 Go next. All right. When they're a teenager, there you go. That's the name of the internet. All right, here we go. Stop it. Shut up. Woff.
Starting point is 01:40:21 Woff thrusts. Woff. I'm making my own. NER. Somebody is stroke. Stop. Zach and Chris are credited in the latest JohnTron episode, the Starcade One.
Starting point is 01:40:33 Could you tell us what you did? We help write it next. We help write it. Yep. Perfect. SMA. All right, here we go. Smat chain asks,
Starting point is 01:40:41 have you ever gotten in an argument with a feminist or somebody was obviously narrow-minded in real life? Yes, all the time on fucking Twitter every day. All the fucking time every day. Jeff hasn't had some fun to you with the images. Just turn on your computer. Everybody Jeff is a feminist, do not offend next.
Starting point is 01:40:56 All right, here we go. We've got, um, Snid Gerdin, uh, asks, what idea notion do you find absolutely terrifying? Exact face. Just kidding. Zach's ass. Wait, what? T-800s. Next question.
Starting point is 01:41:11 T-8. What do you find absolutely horrifying? Meeting my dad again for 5,000. Translucent fear. All right, here we go. This is from Fiesti. What is your quote-unquote comfort zone? Location, food, weather, etc.
Starting point is 01:41:27 What makes you most at ease? See, see, the big plastic raw McDonald laughing at me. Makes me happy. Wawa? Okay, Wawa. And sitting in a bathtub. I like sleeping. Watching Jeff sleep, watch you,
Starting point is 01:41:39 Chris take a bed, go. I like lying in bed, pretending. A small cozy room that's a little lukewarm. What's your comfort zone? Sitting in a beanbag. A bathtub. A small cozy room that's a little lukewarm. I like laying in a coffee across the arms.
Starting point is 01:41:50 A lukewarm room. I like being in a hot fucking muggy office with my best pals recording the podcast. I like being in a sweaty steam room. No, I mean, the shower is definitely one, but I mean, fuck you. All right. Do do, do, do, do, do. The bob ring asks, who is your,
Starting point is 01:42:06 your favorite comedian at the moment no reddonald adam sailor peter riffin he's a baby oh he's funny oh fucking he's a smart baby my favorite comedian you guys make me laugh how about that he's a small baby oh all right next next question stop
Starting point is 01:42:28 um fucking uh blah blah blah blah blah blah all right here we go slow weaner Topic for a conversation, Ed Atlin. This underrated gem, in his opinion, what has worked with Zach and Corey, so you obviously got to know him a little bit. Can you please talk about your experience with him? And also, what do you think of his animation comedy style?
Starting point is 01:42:50 He seems like a really awesome guy. Ed Allen's a really funny guy. He's very funny guy. He's already both booked him to go to his channels. I met him on Skype. Last time I got audio from him, he was very sick, so he probably is dead now. Oh no. Like genuinely sick? Yeah, he was super sick.
Starting point is 01:43:04 He's probably dead now. Okay, that's all right. He's a dead man. He's a dead man walking. He's still alive. All right, here we go. This is from Lec-Lekx. Jeff, I remember you saying on Twitter a long time ago that your favorite show was murdered she wrote, and I was wondering
Starting point is 01:43:18 if I would if you would ever consider being a writer if they ever decided to remake the show from Monter on me. Yes, I'm a huge Andrew Landsbury fan. I'm working my fan fiction. I'm going to send it in. Thank you. I would love to see you fucking writing around that.
Starting point is 01:43:34 All right, here we go. This is from a Tobia guy, Oni, I'm curious as to how exactly you figured out how to make music. I study music and I have always been curious. I study music and I've always been fucked in ass, Zach.
Starting point is 01:43:50 This is lightning round, not retard round. I studied music and I have always been curious as to whether anyone can learn how to be how to be music or if it is just a thing you are born with, thanks. Here's my music lifetime. I started off making ringtones of my
Starting point is 01:44:05 Nokia 3510. Then I started importing Mid-Eye into fruity loops and looking at the how you make music with the chords Then I started learning music theory on YouTube then I started learning to pay piano then I became a master of music the end Can I say something? Can I say something? Okay, okay when I learned music it was because I learned it from here I just started I was making music I wasn't doing no, no you were doing that with every other fucking question I excuse me I was going do do do do do do do do do do Do you do-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-do. What's that?
Starting point is 01:44:41 Can we come up with a lightning-round theme? Yes, and we'll play it in the background. Oh, we're just doing it! Do it. No, do the American Gladiator's theme. No, do it. Do, do it? Do, do it?
Starting point is 01:44:50 If he does that, we shall chime in with a percussion, right? So you go do it. Okay, so it's like, do-do-do-do-do-do-do-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d--d------------------. This is like a 70s cop buddy show. Yeah, get the fucking. Lightning round. Lighting round is like... Alright, oh fuck, your phone got you.
Starting point is 01:45:17 Or not died, you just turned up. There's a couple more questions. Alright, next question, lightning round. We've got, um, uh, from another normal Nick. What are some of the things you would like to do before you die? Something, look a bucket list. I don't think it didn't happen. I just think the numbers were really exaggerated, so I'm moving on.
Starting point is 01:45:35 Come my dick off, eat it. I want to visit. Yes. I just want to visit. I just want to visit. I think the numbers are clearly exaggerate. If you look into the facts, I'm not, I'm not doubting to the facts. There's nothing wrong with questioning history. Six million I don't think so. What are you talking about? That's question.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Look at Jeff right now. Look what you're doing there, ma'am. I'm not saying, I don't believe it. Let later on. All right. I don't see a fourth Holocaust. Thank you. All right. I wasn't talking about the Holocaust. What's your fucking problem, Jeff? I want to do three more Holocaust. Thank you. Oh, I don't I want to do. I don't want to do.
Starting point is 01:46:05 I want to key the Batmobile. Next. All right. Which one? I want a feeling for the real one. I want to fucking jerking dick off, dude. I want to kiss the president. I want to say,
Starting point is 01:46:16 I want to say, I would love to listen to Zach talking about world news and what he thinks maybe stop happening in Ukraine. Nobody else is boring. That's boring. Go to go. There's something called the history channel. Broken Spikes, where do you, where do you... Oh, fuck off.
Starting point is 01:46:31 You have fucking Madmex. Fuck you, what I'm done. You're putting up every day after school. You know what we got? You know what we got? Revolution! We have World War II! We have some Fyndon War! A Wencester! The fucking JFK assassination! Oh, cause of F!
Starting point is 01:46:49 Broken Spikes, where do you guys see sleeping cabin in 10 years? We're all dead. Alright, yeah, exactly. In 10 years? Split up, broken. What? Losing money. All dead except for me, I have stayed in Top of Hill. Smiling. He's a son of his act.
Starting point is 01:47:01 Realistically, though. Alright, here we go. D&D movies 42. Oh wait. Nice move, nice name, you freak. That's the worst film ever. Okay, Frum. Fuck That's That's So Good Asked.
Starting point is 01:47:11 What is the dumbest way you ever tried to stay home from school? Oh, that was a kid. I tried to be Peter Griffith. Shoot up bananas with some fucking peanut butter. And then I remember waiting for my mom to come up to my room. And I told her I wasn't feeling well. And I spat it. This is when I was about eight years old.
Starting point is 01:47:28 I spat it on the ground. I did chicken soup. Didn't work too well. No, actually, one time I actually tried to get myself sick. Like, I remember they'd said if you, like, had wet hair and had a fan blowing on your head. So I actually did that. I got my hair wet and I stood in front of a... I slept under an air conditioner all night long
Starting point is 01:47:46 hoping that I could get fucking sick. Make, really sick. I hit in the closet and locked myself in and freaked out and started hitting on it in the random afternoon. Because I was still tired, so I kind of passed out on the clothes. I always had to after school's over though. Coring, one time I figured out if you were a vasiling your hands and rub it on your face.
Starting point is 01:48:03 It wasn't the question to stay. Stay home from school. Yeah, stay home. Your head also slip up with an elephant's butt. You need to go into this. What? To stay home from school to not go to school? I hid in my closet.
Starting point is 01:48:14 Yeah, because they didn't see me. Huh? To stay home from school? Did they not bring you to school? You were doing this in the afternoon. No, in the morning. Cory. Oh.
Starting point is 01:48:24 Why did you get to school? Normally, did you walk there? I take the bus. I just thought I could maybe, like, I thought I could actually, it was like a test. It was like, I wonder if I could just stay in. But I locked myself in the closet,
Starting point is 01:48:37 so I was freaking out and screaming my house. You didn't have to lock the closet. It locked by itself. That's what you get for me. I think we answered everything. I've got a good question. Hey, we have like tons of questions on separate. Just open up the Reddit and start reading questions.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Where is Sleepy Kevin? What is the address? Revels fan X27 asks, What do you think of monkeys that have throats like frogs? They're my favorite. I think they say, Look, if you see those monkeys? There's monkeys that have these big, fucking disgusting, like,
Starting point is 01:49:13 translucent for our throats. The reason I see it, I want to stab with a throlet something. I know. Yeah, if you stop and go. All right. Sort of my best. Their total safe. Lightning round, lighting round, other fuckers.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Are there any other YouTubers that you met in real life that were just complete dicks? Like you tried to make friends with them, and they gave you the cold shoulder, something like that? How about Utah, 0-0-01. Alright guys here we go. We're gonna end the lightning round with this final one from Toby Sarah and that is could you do another improv story? Thanks, but this is a lightning round story So you don't get to sit around thinking about it Alright, I want to go bowling dad Chris come on lightning round. We gotta do improv story. Go
Starting point is 01:49:52 Alright Go circle No, do a story don't do fucking fake-assum bitch Alright Once there was a beautiful horse in a field and a young Indian boy who would ride the horse He dreamed And then Jeff, then realized Mick was watching that burning story. He ruined it.
Starting point is 01:50:12 And then Artek died. Fuck, the never saying the never-ending story. And the rock monsters ain't rocks. He is an Indian, dude. Is he? Yeah. They didn't go to the horse. I'm gonna be all fine.
Starting point is 01:50:24 I'm gonna be off. No, we gotta start again. It was the never-ending story. You guys start. You guys start. No, look, okay, Corey. Oh. Okay, there once was a skinny, skinny man, droopy-eyed, retard baby, who drooled and vomited
Starting point is 01:50:37 on his parents until they got tired of it and fucking dropped him off at, I don't know, healthcare clinic. What shall we call him? Corey, she said. Corey's dad walked in, he looked down in disappointment. He picked up this new baby by
Starting point is 01:50:55 his dungarees, and he threw at the wall. And then he said, and in a thought fit up a bit of depression, he watched Batman returns, and he said, this is a great movie. Let's put him in a baby couch. in the sewer. And they did that. And they flew out.
Starting point is 01:51:11 And they ran away. Corey floated down the sewer. All right. No, it's my turn. Cory, baby Corey, floated down the sewers only to be washed up on the shores of the YouTube Let's Player University
Starting point is 01:51:27 where he was accepted and they brought him up the stairs into the dean's office who then decided to give him a free scholarship. Okay, I learned the arts of being really funny and entertaining to kids. I learned how to dangle my keychain and fucking make babies coup. And the little did they know, I pulled out the max, but I was actually a droopy-eyed retard baby.
Starting point is 01:51:52 And learning the deceit or whatever it is, they banished me from the Let's Play channel, and I was forced to walk amongst the fucking loser animation community. where I met a bunch of fucking mouth breathing retards to a draw. I got walls. What was named Zach? Who was named Jack? What was named Mick? And a really, really, a really handsome elf boy named Chris.
Starting point is 01:52:16 Elk boy in and said, hello, my name is Chris. Okay, this is garbage. You can't like that end it right now. Yay! Do do, do, do, do, do do do.

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