SleepyCabin - SleepyCast Manhunt : Final Round | Jakub Zieba | Survival of the Sickest

Episode Date: October 24, 2015

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is a sleepy cast lost episode. Survival of the Sickest, Featuring Johnny Utah, Rice Pirate, Spaz Kid, Nile, and Shadman. My name is Captain Dickhead. I wrote a poem for you. It goes like this. An apple falls. The tree is thorny. I scratched my balls.
Starting point is 00:00:26 And now I'm horny. Is it weird that I think dinosaurs are kind of gay? Rate someone's suicide. Robb Williams. Rate one out of ten. Like, you're objectifying fucking actresses. Like, enjoy. Dude, I will have-
Starting point is 00:00:45 Shad your entire fucking existing stuff. So, yeah, well, welcome to the Sleepy Cabin audition episode where we're gonna put you all through a gladiatorial death match to the finish to see who has, the Cajones or the Tatas to bring the goods to the table. Today we've got our hosts.
Starting point is 00:01:09 Corey Spaskins. Celesteone. Thanks, Jeff. Jeff. Yeah, that works. Shadman. Shadman. Nile.
Starting point is 00:01:17 I'm Nile. Beautiful hair, Nile. And I'm Rice Pirate Mick. God, that sounds so, I hate fucking saying that whole thing. Then why do you say Rice Pirate Nick? It's just like, I don't know. It's like, if you're the character, if you were the actor who played Barney and you're like, yeah, Barney,
Starting point is 00:01:31 Did anyone ever call you like rice? I hear rice sometimes. Yo, rice. I usually put Corey before Spasket. I'm not like, call me Spasket Corey. Yeah. Because that's kind of... Cori Spaskin rolls off the time.
Starting point is 00:01:43 That's how you Captain Mick. Yes. Call me Captain Mick. Though actually the fact that people might call me rice sometimes, the first part of my name in Chinese, Mika, is rice. And my grandma, every time she'd yell for me, she's like, meh, which is actually rice, rice, rice. It's like the sound... It's like... It's...
Starting point is 00:02:00 It's... sounds like. I don't know. One day we're gonna find out you're not really Asian. You already see the fucking throw. You're like, you're like those guys who walk through the mall and they're like fatigues and they're not really soldiers and everybody's like, oh, you're a soldier. What platoon did you fight in?
Starting point is 00:02:15 The third half-431st. Yeah, exactly. So, before we got into starting this, Nile was actually entertaining us with a story about events that occurred, what, last weekend? Was it last, yeah, it was a few days ago. We should call this the hospital episode 1.5. Yeah. I have an important question, though. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:38 What movie were you watching? Ant Man. Chris and Zach are all the way out in LA and I can join the Sunshine and I'm kind of stuck mine in Django, the little cat that I have. And I got really bored one night. I went to Ant Man. Okay, then what happened? And what did you call it? So yeah, I was watching it.
Starting point is 00:02:55 And I missed the first like 30 minutes of the movie. But I started like getting actually into it. It was decent. I was getting into it. It was an okay movie about 30% on the stomato scale No, it was all right though and then towards the end of it I kind of felt like Yeah, I'm feeling a little bit sick. I started feeling a little bit sicker and then I was like I'm going to go out for some fresh air So I walked I was on my way out I woke up which is a weird sentence, but on my way out to get air
Starting point is 00:03:25 I woke up and I was like on a step on the stairs like in the cinema and like surrounded by people and some guy like he had me kind of resting on his crotch and I was like I thought like because the EMTs were coming in and the police and shit and they're asking if I was taking drugs I was like no I wonder why they would ask you that they were like I'm gonna take you on an ambulance right now and I was like I don't want to go on an ambulance right What would you like to elaborate on that make? What? Nile kind of looks like he does a lot of drugs I was lying with okay wait I was lying on this EMT's crotch right? Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:01 They were about to take me on the ambulance. They said something... Can you refuse somebody who's gonna take you in an ambulance? That's the thing. I was like, no, I'm not going on the ambulance. I have no money. And then, but I was like, but I'm really comfortable on this EMT's crotch right here. And then he started laughing.
Starting point is 00:04:13 And then they go, he's not an EMT. And he was just a dude who's... And he was kind of smiling at me. And then I got up to go. I got up to like get out of there. And then I woke up in an ambulance. So yeah, I must have been. passed out again. I thought it was more like this, because the story I was told was you passed out at the movie
Starting point is 00:04:35 theater and woke up in an emergency room. No, I woke up in the ambulance. And then I heard that your diet was nothing but like fucking, well the day before you said, yeah, cat food and tiny pieces of bread. You motherfuckers, there's just some little shit talkers. Oh my, no, that's what I heard. I heard you were like, you know, fucking an amoeba eating air. I mean, I was eating food. The day before you tweeted, the day before you tweeted, the day before you tweeted, Oh, I just had like eight pieces of bread for bread. That was actually the same day. There you go.
Starting point is 00:05:05 Maybe that's why you passed out. Eat slices of toast. When did that ever make someone pass out? You're not supposed to eat that much bread. Dude, one subway sandwich has more bread than like that many, that much dough. If you constantly eat that much bread. No, no. Like that day, I did not have a good diet.
Starting point is 00:05:20 It was beer and bread, but they, they told. I've done that before. Yeah, but. It went from bread to beer and bread. Yeah, it turned out to me. Maybe it's because you had too much beer. But I didn't know. I had three or four beers.
Starting point is 00:05:31 You went into a bread coma. It's a Viking. Yeah, it's a Viking. It was my Nordic diet. Murray is King of the Sea in Irish. I'm a Viking. But I went to the hospital, and they were like... Pasty Viking.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Yeah, I was like... About 40 doctors came in and asked me the same fucking shit every single time. And... We were talking about it. You get charged every single time. Every single time. If you guys ever go to the hospital, if you ever go to the emergency room, just know this.
Starting point is 00:05:55 You're getting charged for the emergency room. Secondly, any time a doctor comes into your room... while you're lying there in bed, and they just ask you, hey, what's up? They'll look at your chart and be like, so, what's going on? And then you tell them, they take your blood pressure, they leave. Somebody else comes in a half hour later. They take your blood pressure, look at your chart, ask you how you're doing?
Starting point is 00:06:14 Then they leave. Every single fucking time they do it, and they will do it multiple times with different doctors, you get charged for every single fucking doctor. Now, if you don't have medical insurance, and if it's not an emergency, it's a lot cheaper just to get a doctor and then go talk to him. Don't go to the emergency room if you don't have to if you don't have to because it will fuck you so hard to charge you about a thousand times as much Yeah, so anyway they all came into me and they like asked me all the same shit And one guy walks one doctor comes in he goes hello and I'm doctor whatever
Starting point is 00:06:45 And then he pressed down on my stomach. He goes okay make your stomach like you're doing a ball movement And then like I did and then he left and I never saw him again. That's all he did I asked probably like a thousand dollars like Doctor whatever thousand dollars both spent doctor whatever wanted you to poop yourself Yeah, and then like, I just had to pee in a few cups and shit, and then... And that was another $1,000? Yeah, to pee. And then they have to test the pee.
Starting point is 00:07:08 The cup was... The cup was at least $50. No, so, yeah, they said you're staying the night, and then I stayed the night and they did all these heart tests. That, by the way, cost a ton of money, too. Yeah, that was the EKG. Oh, yeah, and also... Jesus, that cost a lot. That actually cost a lot of money in EKG.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yeah, you're making my heart rate go up, which is a good thing, because they were telling me my heart rate was, like, 38, and it's supposed to be 60. Mm-hmm. So yeah, my heart was at like 38. Isn't that something like people with big hearts? Like they beat slower? God, man. I don't know. Niall does have a big heart. Yeah, you can't be a big heart.
Starting point is 00:07:38 It's a compliment. Die. No, but, yeah, so like the girl, the girl doing the sonogram, like, the EKG is basically a sonogram of your heart, so it's like the same thing that they use pregnant with them. And then I stupidly said, it's a boy when she did the heart thing. She seems so unamused because, like, she probably hears that every day. Was she cute?
Starting point is 00:07:56 Yeah. And then, uh... That's why you made that joke. It's the only reason why I made that joke, but she was not happy with me. And then I asked her how many times she hears that, she's like, every day. Then she had, and I didn't hear any, I didn't even hear about, like, what happened with any of that shit. So just, like, the next day they come in and go, you're free to go. It's just, like, left.
Starting point is 00:08:13 Shadman, what do you think of this? $7,000 down the drain. I'm really interested. What are the consequences if you do not pay those bills? I'm not paying them. What does that? What are the consequences? Probably prison.
Starting point is 00:08:26 No, it's not prison, but what it is, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, send collectors after you. It does accumulate in terms of, like, if you don't pay. No, I'll pay, I'll pay. I'll just kidding. And then if you don't pay, it's really bad for your credit. But, you know, I didn't consent to doing it. She never asked for that. He wouldn't be able to get, like, a house or a car. Oh, fuck that. Should we play a game? Let's play like, the price is right, but with Niles Medical Bill. So as long as you don't go over the amount. All right. So based on how many doctors actually came in to see you? Okay, if I was to make an actual rough
Starting point is 00:08:56 estimate, I'd say about eight. So we'll say eight doctors, an emergency room visit and night that you stayed. Stale pancakes in the morning. And then also an ambulance ride. You got an EKG and a sonogram. The EKG is a sonogram. Do you remember? I got an x-ray.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Okay. I'm going to say based on your visit, it should be a little bit more than the one I had not so long ago. And I'm going to say, seven no no I'm gonna say six K six K six K six K that's I've never had six K but here's the thing what you don't know is that because you don't have insurance you can ask for because they want to get their money somehow and it's too much
Starting point is 00:09:40 money they're not gonna get anything they know that so what you do is just tell me you don't have insurance and then they'll do like a forgiveness thing where they like drop it like half serious so then like my bill I think initially was like $6,500 or something they dropped it down to like 3k so I believe they may do that here. That was in Washington, so I don't know what it's like here. They want me to go back to the hospital, though. Oh, sure they do. They want to check you in for another three nights, man. They want to run some more
Starting point is 00:10:03 tests. Let me tell you, I wasn't, they have more stale pancakes to give you. Is that something you ever want to talk about, Mac? Is that some... Oh, no, it wasn't... It was Thanksgiving not so, like a few years ago, and I was in Seattle, and I ate too much, and I drank too much, like an idiot, and
Starting point is 00:10:19 I woke up in the middle of the night, and my stomach felt like it was going to explode. Like, genuinely, like, I... I have the highest tolerance for pain, but like, I certainly don't want to spend a night in the hospital, and I certainly don't want to spend money. And it was like three in the morning, so it was like the worst possible fucking time.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Common punishment for gluttony. Well, maybe. So I went in. It was so bad that I had to go in. The hospital was like something out of Silent Hill. Like all the halls, none of them were lit, but like as you walk down them, they have like the sensors. So then
Starting point is 00:10:51 like they flash on. So like you're looking at a dark hall, but as you walk, like, section. of the hallway light up as you walk down, flicker on, in this empty hospital where occasionally, like in a dark corner behind a drape, you see some dying person, like, hooked up to a machine. Like, it's just fucking creepy and weird. And then we ran into someone who was in the halls. We were like, there was no one in the front desk.
Starting point is 00:11:15 And they were like, oh, okay, yeah, we'll get you to a room. And then, yeah, a bunch of doctors came in. And I had no idea, like, maybe it was an appendix thing or something. I had no idea what it was. and they gave me a sonogram to check my stomach to see if there was something going on they didn't see anything
Starting point is 00:11:30 turns out at the end of the day after everything I had gas that was it I had really bad gas but I didn't fart but I never farted that was the problem that was the problem I couldn't I wasn't farting
Starting point is 00:11:42 I never went to the doctor I've never gone to emergency room or anything yeah I had to go with my kidney stone oh yeah you're telling us and then they'd like shatter it inside your body with like sound waves, and then you were pissing out fucking shards of kidney stones. And blood.
Starting point is 00:11:59 And blood. That would happen. God, damn. But at least the pain was gone, so I didn't mind pissing blood at all. You know, I feel like you don't even have to go to war or kill someone. Having something like that happened to you automatically makes you a man. Like, the fact that they shattered a kidney stone in your body and then, that even matters, man.
Starting point is 00:12:16 You pissed it out with blood. The one day the stone did act up on me and made me want to scream. and I think I'm pretty damn sure I passed out for 12 hours from the pain. But that, you know, that's easily, easily, I know what the human body can take in, like, a pain threshold before it just shuts down now. Oh, you've reached the threshold. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. That's what happened.
Starting point is 00:12:39 Oh, it was way worse than I could have ever imagined. That's like having a small pebble in your urethra. It's not like a great amount of pain and then it just starts to go down or something. It's like somebody sticks a knife in you and then you just start twisting it. Now, have you ever, like, started pissing and then held? your dick to like the pressure of it. Yeah. Have you ever thought of the idea of it not letting go while that was happening? So the amount of force, like have you ever tried to do it for the longest time and then let it go? Yeah. I love how Jeff is like this is not even close to
Starting point is 00:13:07 describing what was going on with my pain. Well obviously I haven't hold my dick if I was about to I think his analogy was exactly the equivalent. He was saying it is the equivalent of somebody stabbing you in the groin and twisting. I don't think I'm exaggerate. I don't think I'm exaggerate. I don't I think I'm exaggerating. I think it looked very, very closely resemble a knife being pushed into you and turned. Into your dick? No, into your side. I wasn't talking about your dick, into your side. The stone isn't stuck in your dick. Oh, it was in your kidney part right here.
Starting point is 00:13:36 It's in your reaffirited. It's like this little tube that's kind of in your lower back. Oh, see, I was... The stone, the stone can get stuck in any number of places, and if it's too low, they can't even use the machine because of it might damage... The stone? The stone was it too much... Oh yeah, what is the cause of a kidney stone? At some time, you know what, I got the stone analyzed and I never got the answer, but calcium, uh, something and iced tea, anything that can...
Starting point is 00:14:00 What does it look like? They're not clear. They're like little, they're like brownish, yellowish crystals? Yeah, it's like crystally. It's not like a solid, it doesn't look like a diamond or, it's not like a solid crystal stone. It's like a grainy mass. Does I drink like vast amounts of iced tea and soda? Why ice tea?
Starting point is 00:14:20 Basically, as long as you, if you stay high, and drink a lot of water, you should be okay. The reason why I drink iced tea a lot is so I don't get kidney stones from soda. Well, you drink iced tea and then you dilute it with water. Like you drink water. They say stoda, they say things that are acidic in nature like orange juice or lemonade actually reduce your chances to help break down any potential. Because the acid is like breaking it down?
Starting point is 00:14:45 Yeah. Oh, interesting. Would coffee help if you drink coffee a lot? I'm not sure about coffee. Anything, um... I don't think coffee can talk about... I've had small... I've pissed out smaller kidney since then, but...
Starting point is 00:14:54 They've been really tiny and I haven't felt them, so... You just saw them. Yeah. You're just taking a piss and occasionally you hear, like... You feel it. It's like, you feel it. A little piece of glass shoots out of town. No, no, it's like a little gumball machine going down the...
Starting point is 00:15:08 You feel it coming out, and it just goes into the water, and you're like, oh, well. Thank God that didn't grow. Shed, what is healthcare like in Switzerland? You know, I'm with Corey that I never went to an emergency room. Even though I have been severely hurt before, but that's because I believe in Dharvinian survival of the fittest. That's also because you murdered somebody, and if you went to the hospital,
Starting point is 00:15:33 despite the fact that they stabbed you in the shoulder, you'd be arrested. The only bone I've ever broken was my collarbone, and it healed over time from just me keeping it in a position and using it. I've broken my thumb and my nose before. Wait, you've broken bones and I didn't go to the hospital? No, because the healthy human mind,
Starting point is 00:15:51 You don't wake up in the morning and you think you're going to admit yourself to an emergency room. And then he showed me like he had an accident. You think I'm going to help myself when I get hurt. And did you help it? You should come back to that. You break your thumb. You just don't use it for a while. And it fixes itself, but does not fix that back all like upside down?
Starting point is 00:16:09 If it's upside down, you have to position in that fight I had with fuck. And then it will fix itself. Shadman. No, I'm serious. I don't believe you're tough guy routine. I never went to emergency room. And the reason is if someone gets hurt, if someone gets kidney stones, Darwinian law wants them to die.
Starting point is 00:16:29 It's like, you have fucked up. Your diet is bad. Die, please. So the next generation won't make the same mistake. It's not a kidney stone thing is like a freak thing. And the less freak things pass on their genes, the less kidney stones will be in the future generation. It's not like cancer moves through. It's not quite like cancer in a family.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Yeah, it's not hereditary. That's the thing. A lot of people get, you know, kidney stone is coming down a pipe. If it turns the wrong way, like mine did it turns sideways, it gets stuck and it makes your life a living hell If it didn't turn the side it would just come out normally and it wouldn't be a big deal, but it's just the fact well hold on the fact that you're saying kidney stones coming out normally and that you occasionally fucking fucking. I've never had a kidney stone in my life a lot a lot of a lot of people get them Do they? Yeah, and the less people the more people that would die getting them the less would have population Really? Yeah, I don't think so I don't think it's hereditary though I think it's like a
Starting point is 00:17:21 My dad used to get him a lot. My dad gets them a lot. See? You see that? Yeah, but I'm just saying, okay, anyone can get a tumor, right? So if you had like a state... Cancer is hereditary. The thing is, Mr. Shadman... No, no, no, anyone can. Sure. You know I'm glad you're alive.
Starting point is 00:17:35 Yeah. I don't say you're... Oh, of course. You too. The way you looked at Shad, you're like, yeah, you too. I was just saying from a logical standpoint, I think that... I think you're being too logical, though. A lot of people, they admit themselves in the hospital, even though they shouldn't. and Darvinian law wants them to die.
Starting point is 00:17:52 There are people that take advantage of the system, and they're... What's the term for somebody who thinks they're hyper-conry? Yeah, they think they're... There's people who go all the time for no reason, they waste everybody's time, but... Like, Nile, they should have just left him there, and he would have been perfectly fine.
Starting point is 00:18:04 I actually would have been fine, and I'd have more money in my pocket. So do you feel if anybody, if anybody even has the slightest medical problem, it's like no mercy? It's like, it's too bad. If you have a fever, and it's like 103, and you're taking all the, like,
Starting point is 00:18:19 Advil and, like, whatever, then give my possessions to the generation below me and let me pass on because my genes aren't good. So, okay, so what if you're stranded in a desert? Nobody has nothing to do to dictate anything, but you have running out of water. Fucking Tom Cruise has a tooth in the middle of his face. You ever see that? Yo, what if you contracted a disease from somebody else, one that virtually nobodies are
Starting point is 00:18:45 capable of dealing with, but medication could solve that? What if you got swine flu? You know, there's always like... There's extremes. There's extremes, yes. And then I believe, yeah, then help me. Medit medicine, modern medicine, help me. But I was just saying... Well, if you're going to the emergency room, that's generally an extreme. But most people, it's not an extreme. Like, all these cases I've heard right here, they're not extremes. They're not.
Starting point is 00:19:07 What if it was something more like, what if... It sounds like his kidney stone was. What if you're not in a place to say that it wasn't extreme? Because he would fucking... Okay. It's just true. It's true that kidney stones do sound horrible, but at the same time, it's your own fault. Not necessarily. It is. You don't know what exactly will always cause.
Starting point is 00:19:28 It's a very random event that can cause them. If I came into your room and I broke your back. That's not my fault. That was your fault. How are you saying, but it's kidney stones are. Listen to this. You turned the wrong way in your bed while you're sleeping and you busted your spine somehow. Yeah, that could happen.
Starting point is 00:19:46 Then I'm an idiot because I can't take care of myself. What if someone else? Hold if someone else did it. Listen to this. Like me, on my mom's side, or my grandpa's side, what's the disease where you shake a lot? Parkinson's? Yeah, my aunt has Parkinson's, my grandpa has Parkinson's, my mom's starting to get it. So I'm pretty sure because of that percentage, I may have a high percentage of getting it.
Starting point is 00:20:11 You're trying out now. Here, Shadman. What if? I'm going to have to treat that in the future. Possibly. That's what happens for existing, I guess. What if you're up in your room, mind you're in business,
Starting point is 00:20:22 drawing your titties and whatever, your shit coming out of an asshole. Something. I never, that is just derogatory. All right, you know on some nice shining tities. And,
Starting point is 00:20:33 let's say you're a little older in life. Let's say you're 40s. And you, all of a sudden, you blink and you can't see out of your one eye. You get a detached retina. I tell you what. Shat already,
Starting point is 00:20:43 I tell you what. I already has a thing of this, because he's not going to live 40. That is not, like, I shouldn't be. 30. If I should be 30, And that happens?
Starting point is 00:20:51 You're like, at least you got a few years left. I should fucking find something to make myself shift myself an eye patch because that eye is dead. What if a doctor would be like, I can fix it. I can fix it next week. I really like that. I'd ask him how much. What if a doctor said, I'll fix it for free. Let's like, do it now.
Starting point is 00:21:06 So you would, but you wouldn't be like, no, no, no. You see nature dictated that my eye would detach. Those are like ridiculous. That doesn't happen. That doesn't happen. That's like, that's ridiculous. No, no. There's experimental.
Starting point is 00:21:19 It's very experimental procedures. Sometimes you'll have a, like, a weird thing, and they'll be like, you know what, we'll do this, it's experimental, we're gonna do this procedure. But like, I mean, it doesn't happen that you just, your eye just doesn't work anymore. There's an explanation. It does happen, well, no, he said detachment.
Starting point is 00:21:33 It happened to a family member. One of my family members woke up and could not see out of their eye. Humans are social creatures, so there's, like, everyone has a function in each tribe. In society, yeah. So what if, like, what if it is nature to have somebody to help you with your eye, like someone who just knows, Who knows that feel?
Starting point is 00:21:49 Like, they had witch doctors way back to that. That's good. I think, but like, in all seriousness, and I think that's a serious thing, and if there's a way to help it, you should look into it. But I'm saying, like, little illnesses, like, someone passing out or someone, like, breaking their hands. Yeah, something like that. I actually do agree in some ways.
Starting point is 00:22:05 But what if he passed out? Like, my dad recently passed out, and it was because he had a serious heart condition. Maybe he shouldn't have eaten all those fatty foods. Couldn't you refuse? If you passed out in the movie theater, if you passed out in the movie theater, and these people were taking you to the administrative room, couldn't you be like, no, I'm not going.
Starting point is 00:22:22 I did, I did do that, but I did do that, but I was unconscious while, uh, when they put me in the ambulance. I would have said, take me out right now, because I'm not going to the emergency room, and I'll take you to court for courts community or the emergency room or something. I was delirious when I woke up, so apparently I signed the consent form. Yeah, of course, they were fucking holding your... Yeah, they were fucking trying to figure out.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I don't, I have no memory of it either. I remember your signature. It's just a fucking scribble across the page. This is good enough for them, Nile. Yeah. Well, wouldn't you all agree, that there are too many people, we live for too long, because of too many people going to the hospital. I agree, and I believe more people should be dead, and I don't want
Starting point is 00:23:00 to be one of them. I feel like we live in, if we're getting into this like thing. It's always everybody else. No, no. We're too populated. People need to die except for me. I wouldn't mind being one of them. Kill me right now. Do it right fucking now. What is the optimal age people should die at, do you think? The optimal age? They feel like they're out. of their usefulness is. There's some people that are very good. I've talked to make about this before, and I do believe, like, it's scientific fact that in nature,
Starting point is 00:23:28 the age of 25 is when people reach their peak of physical fitness, like, just health. You know, people age at different rates, though. That's also very true. It's like that's kind of a ballpark. And then I think up to 30 it should be fine, but as soon as they start to go beyond that, they should consider. Even just physically but not mentally. If you look at Jeff here, he's mentally and physically still very fit.
Starting point is 00:23:52 That's true. Like, he's still, he's this tower of a man. I'm aging gracefully. So people age gracefully, but I'm saying... You know, I'm as old as Jeff? I'm two years older than you. I'm third, I will be 35 this year. I'll be 37 this year.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Oh, I thought you were one year older than me. I'm saying like in December. You look five years younger than me. Thanks. Beautiful eyes and eyelashes, your fucking full head of hair. Fuck you. Both of you have zero wrinkles, like literally zero wrinkles. Anyways, but it's a difficult question because like in kind of in this like short interlude of everlasting darknesses,
Starting point is 00:24:28 there is like there is obviously differences between how people age. Yes, but I do believe that there's a certain part where you are already dead. Like Nile once quoted, what would you quoted, who was it, Benjamin Franklin who said some people, they die when they're 25, but they don't get, buried until they're like 50. Until they're 70. That's a cute phrase. And it's a, I find that to be very true. I forget to say, yes.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Do you ever want to take a day off from like, I'm not going to be nihilistic today? It's going to be positive. And then I'll go back to be nihilistic tomorrow. You know, when you look at things how they are, you know, you don't want to take a day. Though, because we have these conversations in the car and in the, in the kitchen.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Shad's nihilism has some very clear limits in terms of, oh, life is meaningless, why don't I just die today? But then we will talk, and there will be times when he openly admits that he's very happy to be alive. I am. And that, well, if there's no purpose, then why do it? And any time we get to a point where he's starting to sound more and more human, the only thing Shad can say is it's because I'm weak.
Starting point is 00:25:41 He shucks down. He's because I am flawed. He sees it as a weakness. I am weak like other humans, but that, It does not mean that it is wrong, you know, that this viewpoint, that life is meaningless, why don't you should be able to yourself? Chad's perspective is, I think it's one of the best perspectives you can have on life because it kind of encourages you to do whatever you want.
Starting point is 00:26:00 But do you think that like your perspective is equally as valid as everyone else's perspective because it's subjective and I have the beholder? Everything is, you know, like currency, that has been a social subject. Like social means have made up currency. They've made up time. They've made up the fucking Ecuador. I can't use the Ecuador. Ecuador to tie a fucking rope.
Starting point is 00:26:19 It gets made up, but it's still a good idea. Yeah. Even though it is made up subjectively by social. Do you ever feel like you should just because the universe created you, made you exist? So now you feel like you owe it to yourself to sort of just live out what you can. I never asked to come from before from this earth. Well, no, see, we have the same, so we have, Shad and I, and I'm sure a lot of us have the same basic principle where we agree, which is, life is technically meaningless, that there is no great grand plan.
Starting point is 00:26:51 And I agree with that statement, that there is actually no meaning. So we both agree there. The difference though is that for me, for Shad, it's like, well, if there's no meaning, then the most efficient thing to do is just end it. Then, you know, that's essentially the most graceful and efficient thing you could do. For me, it's like, well, I do exist. There is no meaning, but if there is no meaning, who cares? That means I should cherish this.
Starting point is 00:27:15 existence even more while I have it and then when I die it's gone but I am here my life has meaning I'm here to make everybody else feel awkward before they die good that's my purpose you can inject a little bit of awkwardness in everybody's vagina I don't I don't mean to speak for oh sorry Shed let's ask Corey something Corey what do you think your meaning of life is personally what do you look for personal meaning well my own personal meaning is my own personal goal so my own personal goal in life is to do something that I legitimately think I can look back at it all times and be like, yeah, I'm glad I made that. There is no all time. Right. Chad will argue that
Starting point is 00:27:56 when you die, it will be gone, so it doesn't even matter what you achieve. That's why I said, it's my own personal goal. My area, what I enjoy is completely between me. I'm not hoping in the long scheme of things that people will relieve my thing. I don't want to die and then have people be like, oh, remember that great thing he did? Because I know it'll just become like a, you know, like a thing people will remember. Not to soundly rude, but like, you know, Michael Jackson was a really good. I'm not comparing myself to Michael Jackson, but he was a really good singer. But like, he was also the butt of a lot of jokes.
Starting point is 00:28:29 And then when he died, a lot of people remember him. The butt of a lot of kids. For being the butt of a lot of jokes. And also he's a good singer. But he's probably done a lot more stuff to him. But people just remember those one thing. Right. But even humanity one day will be why.
Starting point is 00:28:42 wiped off the planet. All the servers that hold our information in our cartoons, that will all be gone one day. Which I basically would like to, for my lifetime, create everything I want within- That's essentially what I am. Yeah. But what you're saying, that's what, like, kind of, I don't mean to speak for Shad, but it's kind of like what Shad's point of view is. It doesn't really matter, so just kind of do what you're doing. Exactly. Don't fucking, don't worry about little petty shit. Like, don't let little things bother you or you're never going to get fucking anything done. If all you do is focus on stupid people doing stupid things that don't go anywhere,
Starting point is 00:29:15 you're not gonna fucking go anywhere. So, you don't wait for handouts, you don't sit around hoping that you're gonna fucking become famous. You actually have to be famous and become famous by doing famous things. I think Shad, you're like the, just the classic, like, chaotic neutral character. That's it. You know, when you're putting, like, if you had to put labels on it. If you had to be a nerd, you had to pick a Dungeons and Dragons. Dungeons and Dragons. But they have really fucking, they're valid if you read on one. The alignments, the alignments are valid, but like, you know, you can argue that they're equally as valid of like horoscopes or whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:49 But like, actually, no, that it, people are in one of those categories as far as I know, like, as far as I could tell. No, it's true. I mean, well, it's supposed to define characteristics. You bring up things like being famous as if they're, like, important, or, like, you bring up all these things that, like, social views would make you think are important. But why are they important? Like, they're not really important. important. It's like when people play a fucking game and they get mad at the game, like they play poker and get mad that they lose. But it's like it doesn't matter when they're done. Like it's like it was just a game. They look back at it and it didn't matter. It just got mad because they were weak. They were stupid. And people get upset about life because of the same reason. It won't matter anymore. It's like you fucking just play along. I may have already told this story, but it reminds me. The whole discussion reminds me of the
Starting point is 00:30:33 Julius Caesar when he went out. He was like after he had conquered whatever the fuck it was. and he was with a servant. You know, back in the day the Caesar's, they were considered, like, you know, ordained by the gods. So they were, you know, next closest thing. They were kind of a medium between humanity and the gods. And so Julie Caesar goes out with a servant and he sees a statue of Alexander the Great.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And he goes up to the statue and then he just falls to his knees. And the servant is absolutely convinced the sky is going to, you know, just rain meteors and the earth is going to split because it's like what the fuck is happening. Caesar is on his knees crying. Like, just could not believe it.
Starting point is 00:31:11 And then, I mean, this is just a story, so who knows how it really went. But then apparently Caesar says, I will never be as great as this man. Because he would never be able to conquer as much as Alexander the Great. He would never be as famous or well known as Alexander the Great. But he was still fucking Julius Caesar. But it's the idea of ambition can be such a downfall. Having the name Alexander the Great, it's kind of hard to live up to me. I know.
Starting point is 00:31:36 But it's the idea, I think, that. You know, if your goal is to be rich, you will never be rich enough. If your goal is to be famous, you will never be famous enough. Because there will always be people with more money, and there will always be people who are more famous than you. Exactly. The moment that's your goal, you have failed. That's why you set goals within your limit. It's like you set it at the time and you work for those things that you want to work for.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Well, if your goal is always to become better than who you are, then I think that's a great goal. Always be better than your previous self. So we not even set goals, just work as hard as you can and just sort of see where it takes us. For sure. Why? You know, that wouldn't even have to be necessary. That, that is like such a, I don't know, like that, that view is it. That's a catch-22 because it's like you can either sit around and not do anything and inevitably die or you can actually do something and die. It doesn't matter. You're still getting to the same destination. You know why I'm still alive?
Starting point is 00:32:25 Why shit? As gay as it sounds, it's because of love and because I love things. Are you gay? No, no, I can just like, I hope. I thought you say, as gay as it sounds, I'm in love. As like, like, cliche it sounds, you know, like, it's because of love, because I love things. I always say as good. And there's different kinds of loves.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Like, and when you then, when you love something, you want to, like, you find life in that. Yeah. And that keeps you going. Like, there's different kinds of love. There's like the evil kind that is just like animalistic lust. And there's like the kind of love like, as like a guy likes a good steak. You know, that's love money. And that is another kind of love.
Starting point is 00:33:01 Adoration and fame. I think it's the kind of love to people. Everybody loves money and everybody loves fame. Everybody wants to be famous and everybody wants to be rich, but people say... Well, no, I think the media definitely bashes it into everyone's heads that you want to be famous, that you want to have attention. Speaking of... Speaking of being famous.
Starting point is 00:33:19 Me and Jeff were talking about something. This is a segue, by the way. About how famous you guys are? No. We were talking about movie remakes. We were talking about the future of what movies are going to be like, because we were talking, we were like what the next remake of a movie is going to be. Okay.
Starting point is 00:33:32 I said that the next series that's going to be remade is back to the movie. to the future. And what I said was, I said, I was to say, Marty is going to be replaced with a girl and I said the professor or the guy. He's going to be black. He's going to be a black professor. Yes. It's going to be Morgan Freeman and a girl, but she'd still be named Marty. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going to go back in time and the bad guy's obviously going to be. Her real name is like Martina. Yeah. She'll be part Latino. Just because, you know. Latina. Just how we were explaining how it would be, it's like the bad guy would be super either he'd be super racist or either super intolerant.
Starting point is 00:34:10 We would say Biff would continue to be an angry white man. Of course. Anger and meaner than before. Yes. And whiter. Yeah. Though Biff was pretty fucking white in those movies. He was about the...
Starting point is 00:34:21 Yeah, he was a... Yeah, he was arian as fuck. Yeah, he was errant. So that's what I said. That's what I said about, back to the future. But I was curious... Are you saying this, like, out of the wake of the new Ghostbusters? No, I'm saying it in the wake of, like, how everybody, like, to be progressive.
Starting point is 00:34:33 Yeah. By being progressive. White people now? Yeah. It's interesting how people feel like in order to be progressive, they have to rewrite history. They have to like take all the old shit we had and change it. So rather than just appreciate for what it is and come up with something new, you fucking idealist, soul-sucking jerk-offs in fucking Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:34:54 You see, but here's a thing. But here's the thing. I would be all for it. I'd be all for Back to the Future with a girl and a black professor. But I would know the only reason it would exist is for that reason. And that would really taint. it. See, if they made a time traveling movie or something similar and they did have, they just happened to have like a black doctor and a female protagonist, fine, not a thing.
Starting point is 00:35:17 But they have to go, it's the idea that they're going back and they are re, they're literally trying to erase what was because it's not okay. It's not okay that, you know, Michael J. Fox and fucking, you know, there was all these white people doing it. You know what I mean? Like, it's, they, in order for it to be pertinent and or valuable to you have to rewrite it. That bothers me. Well, why does it bother you? Like, it doesn't even, why do you even care about movies? Like, why do you even care about a new back to the future? Like, who cares?
Starting point is 00:35:46 Well, no, it doesn't quite, look, it bothers me to- Hypocrycy bothers me. And I think that the very people who are trying to be socially conscious about things, I think by them doing that, I think they're being fucking hypocrites and bigots themselves. By saying that, well, whatever you created, that wasn't okay. you fucking white people and you know whatever that they're saying they know better that that hypocrisy that maybe it's an attempt on trying to be different so it wouldn't be compared as much but then if you wanted that just make a new movie don't make it
Starting point is 00:36:19 back to the future they're doing that all the time the remand then we're talking about remix and we're talking about movies specifically not not Hollywood in general no no no no just remix we're talking about if they like the new evil dead and that it was like very pointless I think that looks good you know I look It feels great, but there's no reason. There is no reason to remake Evil Dead. There's no reason. It's not a remake, it's a series.
Starting point is 00:36:45 Yeah, yeah. No, they did do it. No, no. Oh, you're talking about Evil Dead too. With the girl. Not Evil Day too. No! The new Evil Dead with the girl.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And it didn't have Bruce Campbell. He was a producer. Oh, I didn't know that. Not the series. Not the series. The series actually looks very great. They redid the Evil Dead movie and Sam, I believe Sam Remy and Bruce Campbell.
Starting point is 00:37:06 were both producers of it. What the fuck? Because they weren't in it. Wasn't Evil Dead 2 a remake of the first one anyway? Yes. So, and then they made a remake again? Yes. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Now I follow, but that's... Whatever, dude. Texas Chainsaw has like 18 remakes. Exactly. That's why why do people even care about it? They're making enough money so they don't, they're not going to stop doing it. Def, I've been me to ask you something. Of course.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Because you've seen so many movies and you're like a movie guy. Why do you even still care about movies? How can you bring yourself to care about it? There's things you see in a movie. Why do I, do I, how can I bring myself to care about movies? Yeah, like when you see like, um, Avengers 2, how can you even see like, I want to see that? How is like, oh, fuck this.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Like I can't, I couldn't care of life. I enjoy the, uh, I enjoy movies more than say video games, the fact that they're more passive entertainment. I can just sit back, relax. I like this, I like, you know, I don't have just built into my human DNA, but you know, like a nice story dialogue. But you've seen it before. But do you mind hearing the same story again?
Starting point is 00:38:11 Do you? You mean literally the same movie? Well, he, Shad believes that many movies are literally just all the same. Why do you keep playing Call of Duty? I don't. I haven't played it until long, but I've enjoyed it at the time, but I don't keep playing shooters. Keep shooting.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Yeah, all shooters are the same. I'm playing, they're different. No, they're not. No, and that's the same thing as saying all of an action movement. I do admit. I do admit, there's been plenty of games I've, like, started recently, and I just thought to myself, why am I even playing this? And I never played them again.
Starting point is 00:38:42 It's like, like, Dark Souls. I started playing it. It's like, this is fun. But then it's like, eventually I kind of thought, like, why am I playing this? Like, why am I even bothering with this? Yeah, like, I really got into it. But I was like, why am I playing this? Because it's just a waste of time.
Starting point is 00:38:55 You don't need to understand something. I'm negative. I complain about things because I care. Yeah, I know that. I like being alive. I know that. I like being alive and complaining because I care too much. But like sometimes it's just really hard to care because it's like, why might...
Starting point is 00:39:09 Oh, I can't. Not for me. No. Why do you keep playing Team Fortress? Yeah, shoot me in here. Yeah, because I still find value in it. Eventually that will cease. I admit, eventually that will cease. How many matches? How many T. F2 matches have you played?
Starting point is 00:39:22 Probably quite a bit since it came out. Just give me a rough number. Do you think it's a hundred? More than that. That's like maybe a thousand? More than that. Maybe about a thing. You know, you have played a game a thousand times.
Starting point is 00:39:38 But isn't that beautiful and something can capture your attention for that wrong? And yet you're the same person who says, how could you possibly watch these Hollywood movies, they are all the same? Mick, I've played... Hold on, hold on, Shadz has been... That is not linear... Team Fortress 2 is not linear entertainment, it's sport. It's a battle of the wits, a battle of... Are you telling me that out of that thousand, every single one of these things is like just this amazing... Not everyone, but every now...
Starting point is 00:40:03 one will be and that will make your day. You tell me how this glorified point and click link click game is better than like in one Yeah, listen to this guy This is your glory. Click click click click oh Jeff you've done it now Jeff this is so deep click click click oh wow I killed You're so that's just pure ignorance. Oh wait let me just straight left a little let me strafe left click he's dead That's pure ignorance that is I know you know you're ignorant
Starting point is 00:40:31 I haven't seen any of the Avengers, so maybe they're really good. Why do you keep bringing up the event? I didn't even like the Avengers too. Why do you bring that up? They're like really big movies. Let me watch a movie. Click. Alright, that was good.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Yeah, let me watch the movie. Oh, happy end. Haven't seen this before. Oh, look. Oh, the hero. Oh, what an interesting movie. Oh, I shot a guy. He died.
Starting point is 00:40:53 What an interesting shot. I haven't seen a thousand times. I got a headshot. Time to respawn. Another headshot. Another CG explosion. CG explosion. Whoa! Okay, you know what's funny though?
Starting point is 00:41:05 Is that within the world of Team Fortress, right? There are a limited amount of assets. There's a limited amount of animations, characters, movesets, so is there in real life? Sure. But I will say that the variety that you can see in other mediums is much greater than any single game. Do you disagree? You spent a thousand hours in a hallway.
Starting point is 00:41:24 Well... I never... Well, no, I don't think Shattagreeze, because here's the thing. A thousand matches. I'm saying asset-wise. I'm not saying, I'm not saying scenario one. Here's the thing about a game and here's the thing about a movie. It's a movie's great because, you know, you can really get invested in a movie,
Starting point is 00:41:39 but the movie will always be the same. Sometimes the movie will be different, you'll catch new things, which will make the whole movie enjoyable again. But when you have a game, and you have a game like TF2, which has tons of different weapons, which all do different things and give you a different experience each time, it's like playing a different game every time. Yeah, but you're playing a bunch of Sonic Hedgehog fans,
Starting point is 00:41:58 probably on it. That's also not sure. Wait a man, wait a minute. So, what's it? Why? Essentially, let's say you watch the movie. Hold on, why T.F2 rather than Call of Duty, though. Let's say you-
Starting point is 00:42:06 Because Team 4-2 is way more intelligent than Call-Duty. I will admit that. And Chief-Fort Just 2 is infinitely more intelligent. He likes Colorado. Comparing missing movies does not seem like, uh, listen. Listen, video games are better than movies. Wrong.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I agree with that. Video games are better than movies. Listen, I, I'd rather play a fucking E.T for Atari 3200. Are you shouldn't? Watching a movie. The very nature of it being interactive makes it better than the movie. Not interactive. I think non-linear entertainment is better than linear entertainment.
Starting point is 00:42:39 So you think a game, like a board game, like shoots and ladders, is better than the movie aliens. That's not entertaining. But me, that is not entertaining. It's an interactive. Non-linear. What about a game of checkers? I could roll the dice. I could move three spaces or six spaces.
Starting point is 00:42:54 There's still a lot of games to fucking suck, but I just mean like the best of both worlds. the best of video games would win. So would you see the ultimate hybrid? Let's say, do you ever see that movie with Gerard Butler? Yes, I love you? No. Where he's like in the game? The gamer, gamer.
Starting point is 00:43:11 That is fucking gay. That movie is this fucking... Why? Because like, it's a dumb action movie. Like it's like, fuck this movie. Shed, get off your pedestal for one second and open your ears. I wasn't saying the movie. I'm saying the premise of the movie.
Starting point is 00:43:27 The idea that you could actually actually be in a game, like making the decisions. Well, Shadden against the Oculus Rift, which is something that's... Why are you against the Oculus Rift? Because I think it's gimmicky. Yes, see, that's something that, so it's not an immersion thing, because it's emergent, like that, I think it makes more emotional. What if there was a movie?
Starting point is 00:43:43 Let's say, let's say there's a movie. Name a movie you actually like. The Godfather? Great. So imagine there's a movie like the Godfather. There's a headset you put on, and all the characters still exist in this world. It is a game, but it is also a movie where you could just sit back and kind of watch everybody or you can interact completely with these things.
Starting point is 00:44:02 There's no reason for that to exist. Like the Godfather is a good piece of art on its own. Jesus Christ. It doesn't need to be. Okay, fine. Then it's not the Godfather. Shut the fuck. Fine.
Starting point is 00:44:11 That it's not, hold on, hold on. Then it's not the Godfather. It's another random Mafia movie X is actually, random interactive movie Mafia X. Okay? It is a mafia world. It is just like a game, except you don't use a controller. You are actually in it. I don't understand the point is this question.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Is that, is that, do you think that's better than just where you sit with a controller? No, yeah, yes, he does. That's, that's my point. No, he hasn't answered. He's going to call up with some contrarial response. What did you call out of some contrary elements occurring throughout a house? And you can see it from different perspectives. What is this?
Starting point is 00:44:47 Like, what is, what is? It's so fucking simple. Hypothetical shit come from. This isn't hypothetical. In the world where this is. What I'm saying is, is the future of entertainment being, instead of watching. movies, they are now fully interactive. Like you are literally walking through the halls of this thing.
Starting point is 00:45:03 You're describing the wet dreams of game designers. That doesn't mean it's reality. Shad, do you know what games were before you were born when I was a kid? I watched the angri-a-vating game. And you're telling me, you're telling me that you don't think in 20 years they're not going to have something almost like virtually embedding yourself in a world. Yes. You do not think they are. You're close-minded, my friend.
Starting point is 00:45:25 You're ignorant. I don't think that's-minded. I don't think 20 years. You have no idea of the progress they've made. The fact that the Oculus Direct is where it is today, today, in 20 years, in 20 years, dude, I remember using a fucking cassette tape. Sean had his mom, you know, he played Call Duty 1. Now he's up to Call Duty 4 or whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:43 That's all he knows. My point, Shad, was that you were saying of the two worlds that games were better, and we were saying of movies and games, that we enjoy movies and games, but that was the better. my idea is if in the future they were able to meld them, does that seem like something that would be cool? Instead, it became some weird thing where it was like, oh, you're hypothetical bullshit.
Starting point is 00:46:05 What the fuck is that? The Gerard Butler sucks. I never said that. I never said that. You're straw manning me, as they said. Like, you're making me say things I didn't. Mick, if it's any consolation, okay? It's such an easy question.
Starting point is 00:46:21 Would you like to be in an interactive movie, the end? No, he doesn't like that. If it's any consolation, the Oculus Rift gives me motion sickness. Thank you, thank you. So I don't know if I can handle it. It would give me motion sickness, too. It's, I get motion sick very easily. It's too much.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Not only that, but my eyesight's really bad, so I'd have to wear glasses, and I don't think, I honestly don't think technology is up to a point where glasses and an Oculus Rift. No, and I think it will be, and I think it will be immersive, and I think it would be cool, but it won't be for everyone. And Chad doesn't make it. No, the reason why I brought it up was it would be a movie that was non-linear, because essentially, could make anything happen in this movie. Why does it have to be a movie? Like they tried movies
Starting point is 00:46:58 that are non-linear. Take the word movie out of it. It is an interactive game world that happens to have a story. You look at so many of the fucking games that people play, it is like a movie. It has a fucking story. That's my problem with gaming industry. That's why a lot of modern games are like moving in the wrong direction because they are just cheap imitations of interactive movies. Do you think it's bad or good that Call of Duty has like cutscenes? I think it's bad. It's terrible. So you think all games are. should have no story and just be pure action.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Not all. That's why he likes Fallout. No, no, no, no. Fallout, you make your own story. But that's exactly what I was talking about, about interactive, fucking movies! That's exactly what I'm talking about. It's not, because it's not, because it's not,
Starting point is 00:47:37 you're saying there's a Moffin movie where you can leave. That's like heavy rain. You're saying, but Fallout does too. Fallout has a fucking script. Characters say shit. People recorded the line. You're saying this Mafia movie or whatever? Or Fallout World.
Starting point is 00:47:52 Fucking who can. But it's a mafia thing, why is it a mafia thing? Who I'm fine? It doesn't matter! Listen! Why is it a Fallout world? Listen to me! If it's a fucking mafia thing, then you can just go outside and walk on down to fucking subway.
Starting point is 00:48:07 It doesn't really matter that you're in a fucking mafia movie if you do whatever you want. If they're- Movie game, would that make it better? Yes, because you're- Why is it a movie? Because it's not a movie. It's not a movie! It's interactive entertainment.
Starting point is 00:48:25 It's a fucking game. It's still a game. Fine, I'll take the word movie out of it. No movie. Just story, interactive, immersion, non-linear. Do you want to play? So you're asking if he wants to play it in more either. Fuck your game, fuck this thing.
Starting point is 00:48:41 I walk in there and they're like, it's a fucking line. I'm like, you know what I thought you was a character in that game, I'd walk a subway, just fucking without your dick, jerk off in and then turn it off. That's what I would do. I would go next door and start jerking off on people because I'm in a movie.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I can do what I want. fucking slap anybody and flat to flat 20 years. That you could do that. You could. Then what's the point of it being a movie? That's my point. Fine. Take the word movie out of it.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Yeah, look, why do we even use the word movie? Because I tried to interact with. Because what I'm saying, by movie, all I meant was that it had a storyline. You don't have to follow it. You can change that storyline, just like Fallout has a storyline, but you're right, that's not a movie. So we'll take out the movie part and just say interactive, immersive, entertainment. Then it's a complete.
Starting point is 00:49:29 That's what you're describing, like the wet dreams of game designers, what they're striving to do, and they're trying to figure that out. Of course I'd want to play that. Great, that was the answer. Okay. It's a completely new thing. It's like no longer a game. It's no longer a movie. It's a new animation.
Starting point is 00:49:41 That's what I was saying. It's like, it's a, it's a good movie. It's a good movie. It's a good movie. It's a good movie. If it's interactive though, I'd still argue that it's still a game. It's not though. Because you can have interactive movies.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Remember back then when you had like, like, and people would call those games though, where you like click left to see or click click right to see the next scene. But it's not a game, it's an interactive movie. I just want to play Final Fantasy game with Niles, the main character. That's what I want. You already looks like one. So, Back to the Future was what was the movie remake.
Starting point is 00:50:10 I said, what do you guys think? What do we think of that? The next big hit, the next big remake. Well, they're doing Ghostbusters already. I think. Which again, like, you know, I'm all for a whole... No, no, that's actually a really great question. But what upsets me is the fact that it has to be that.
Starting point is 00:50:27 What if it's Conan? What if it's Conan with that? M.A. Didn't they try to incone it? No, but that's... Ronda Rousa. Well, no, that Hercules movie had the rock, and clearly he was not the Aryan-white Hercules that people are used to. I legitimately think in the next 10 years they'll make a new Lure of the Rings movie series. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:50:42 So successful. You think they would do that? Dude, that series is 15 years old. I'm actually surprised that they made The Hobbit three movies, but they made the whole Lord of the Rings into fucking three movies. Yeah, exactly. What about Harry Potter? You think they had relaunch Harry Potter again? No, as a show, as a show would be.
Starting point is 00:50:59 It is a show Hogwarts Academy. And it's just like... They already are. I think they will. Well, they're creating a series that takes place after it. Oh, shit. Oh, really? That would be interesting.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Oh, the monsters where the monsters are... Well, I mean, they did that with like... The Gauph. Ugiow and shit. Like, they have like the Uguio Trading Card Academy. Well, they can't do Terminator because they keep doing Terminators. And they've stayed very true to the past. Well, they've already done Terminator.
Starting point is 00:51:22 I know, but they keep redoing and they keep... And the new one is like... But they referenced the first one. I know. They made it so perfect. Except they made the three punks have different haircuts at the start. Did you see that? Everything was so perfect in the new Terminator like almost remake,
Starting point is 00:51:36 but they made the three punks at the beginning of Terminator one in the new one have different haircuts. It's weird. It was stupid. Like they could have already so close. They were so close, but they just gave them different haircuts. What about goblins? What was it really good 80s movie? Gremlins.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Yeah, Gremlins. What was a really popular good 80s movie? That's a Gremlin's. Like, they're going to remake Gremlins. That was popular. They would totally do that. Bill and Ted. Make it really gross with females.
Starting point is 00:52:03 Uh, no, Bill and Ted would be... It would be with an Asian and an Arab. It would be the... It would be the... It would be Harold and Kumar's Excellent Adventure. Speaking of a mafia movies, like you were so obsessed about for some reason, what about the Godfather series? I don't think they would...
Starting point is 00:52:23 You think they would dare do that? No, I don't know if they would touch girl. I don't think they would. They might... They might be... ruthless. No, no, no, no, they would be murdered. The actual mobsters hold that movie as lore.
Starting point is 00:52:35 They would go and murder someone. Because they reference that movie. That's actually... They quote that movie. That movie changed the whole mob because they actually started changing their whole way. Even gangsters, even like, you know... Without that, Sopranos wouldn't exist. Yeah, maybe those would get me killed, but I
Starting point is 00:52:51 fucking hate everything to do with Italian gangster. Listen, I love the Sopranos. Listen, Godfathers? All these ignorant spaghetti slurping jackassies. The Godfather's gonna come out. They're in their fucking tracks, dude. Listen, they're-
Starting point is 00:53:02 thinking they're... Oh, mama-killed. Whatever. The godfather's gonna come out, and it's gonna be fucking PG-13. It's gonna be Pee-Wee Herman. Yeah. They're gonna, like, fucking stab somebody
Starting point is 00:53:12 and a shadow in the background. It's gonna swing his hands around. They wouldn't do that. That's actually a really good question, though. Do you think they're ever gonna make, like, classic Disney movies like Lion King as, like, 3D? Lion King's already a TV show in Disney. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:23 I was gonna say Indiana Jones, but they made one so recently. That's what I was thinking. I don't think they were... 10 years ago. That was almost 10 years ago. If anything, they would possibly, that one could possibly be like Indiana Jones had like a niece. They wanted to, there was a room and they wanted to make that Chris Pratt character. They were Indiana Jones.
Starting point is 00:53:39 That he really decent Indiana Jones, to be honest. I think they'd stick with a white guy for him. Yeah. Because it's such a white name to Indiana. That's like such a fucking. Yeah, but it could be a girl too. What about ET? Remake of ET.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Yeah. J.J. Abrams. Because ET, the movie, as Torrey said, suck. Fuck. Fuck. Fuck. So, fucking,
Starting point is 00:53:58 when I was young, I was like, fuck this movie. JJ Abrams, remaking ET, um, with... Nobody wants your fucking alien.
Starting point is 00:54:07 Uh, even if it's like, I still think the main character would be white, but I think possibly has like black best friend. Absolutely. No,
Starting point is 00:54:15 the main character's black and the, the alien's white. When he dies, he turns white. He turns black. You know, when he turns black
Starting point is 00:54:22 and the black kid turns white. Flight of the Navigator with a black Black Kid. No, no. The Never Ending Story. They would totally remake the never-ending story. I don't think they would.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Because the book, like, they already butchered the books so much with that movie. Mary Poppins. No, I mean like a remake of it. Like, remake the first one, completely. Knock out the sequel. Yeah, Mary Poppins is, hold on. Mary Poppins remade with Jennifer Lopez in Manhattan.
Starting point is 00:54:47 They're not going to remake Mary Poppins. They will make Mary Poppins. They will make that. No, they did that Disney movie with fucking Tom Hanks. Yeah, so, yeah. And it had, it was the premises. Oh, yeah, that's great, that's great. A remake of Big with a kid, a black kid who...
Starting point is 00:55:05 Hathley Black Cockadee. Hold on, hold, no, he's a black kid who... What about in Jayden Smith? He then becomes Jayden Smith, grows up, he then is turned into Will Smith. Sounds like a bad man. Who then is a famous rap... He gets into the... He's a famous rapper, but all of his lyrics are based off of like childhood memories and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:55:24 He's like, they called the movie Negg. He's also an emerald guru. Shad's half black, he can say that. He's also an emerald guru. They never need to remake any of the alien. You said flight of the navigator, but I think they could pull off a new fighter. But it's like nobody, like, I mean, like, I know I'm saying this, but that movie had one version of it, and though people liked it, I don't know if it really...
Starting point is 00:55:49 But that's what I'm saying. It's like fairly well known, but it's also a little under the radar. And the premise, I think, is interesting enough. that it could be remade. They could literally take the very basic framework. Yeah, because you could remake it to any town and any person. The idea of the kid going in the future. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I think the kind of robotic pilot is overdone, like the full Space Odyssey, spaceship is overdone? I know, we just saw it an interstellar. Yeah, it's kind of overdone. But I thought they did it good, though. They did it good, but it's like if you do that again, you'd get compared to. What's the movie with Hal 3,000 or whatever?
Starting point is 00:56:22 What's the movie with Hal 3,000? It's August. It doesn't want to be able to. They would make Space Odyssey? They wouldn't do it. I don't think they'd redo it. I don't think they'll remake it. You know, I would say that they wouldn't remake any Kubrick movie, but I'm wrong.
Starting point is 00:56:34 I expected for its time. What about the room? You know what? I would say that they would remake The Shining, but they already did because, uh, fucking, Stephen King did, because he didn't like the original. You made a TV for TV. Yeah, he made his own TV. Dude, that one was like, devastating.
Starting point is 00:56:48 I don't give a shit what fucking is... It's fucking terrible. I don't care what, you know, NC on the DL says that. Oh. It fucking, I saw it. It fucking saw. Wait, the original? No, the original? No, I like the original. The original, like, fucking scared me when I was little, but the one, the remake, the TV show, the one that has, like, 14 episodes.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Stephen King has this thing where he has to star, or not starred, but he has to be featured. A cameo. And the cameo and all the, like, Stan Lee. Steve King, he's had, like, two or three, like, you know, good horror movies, but he's made a lot of really stupid fucking ones, too. Yeah. The best ones that he, that people remember. from him have never been that he's never really been like directly involved except for obviously
Starting point is 00:57:30 the story which is huge but like being like there Shoshank Redemption Kubrick's Shining What's that one with the big dog? Cujo? I never saw it. Or I did see it I saw it. It's stupid. Or it.
Starting point is 00:57:46 Oh yeah it. It was a like it wasn't actually really fucking bad movie if you look at it. It was kind of scary though. As a kid it was really scary. Misery. You know, it was really scary. Misery. We're great.
Starting point is 00:57:56 Yeah. I like that movie. Misery is great. I love that movie. I love that movie. I love that movie. That one's fantastic. Misery is one of his best,
Starting point is 00:58:03 but I think it was like, when I was a kid, it scared me, but when I got older, it was fucking stupid. Yeah, yeah, it's,
Starting point is 00:58:09 that's the problem. It's fucking stupid. It's confusing. It's, it's nonsense. It's, it makes no sense. It's classic, like,
Starting point is 00:58:16 inconsistent bullshit. It's like, it's like, it's like a fucking spider and they use silver rocks. Yeah, it's like, battery asses. I was fucking hoping it was more than like some alien spider.
Starting point is 00:58:30 I was hoping he was actually just a fucking clown, but no. Corey, remember when he just spray battery acid on his face and it fucking hurts him? Like, why? Do clowns hate battery acid all of a sudden? Anyone would hate battery acid, to be honest. No, but like everything else wouldn't hurt him, but battery acid. It's like, okay. I mean, like, I guess like horror movies, like classic horror movies, you think they remake Hellraiser?
Starting point is 00:58:50 Yeah. Well, I mean, they've made so many of them. Those, I think all horror movies are. really prime for remake. Because people don't want to... The first one. Well, no, yeah, because I think people are... And to reboot.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Because I think that producers are really weary about horror movies in general. So they're, like, new ones especially. So if they can find something that already has a little bit of traction, then they'll remake it, which is why I think we have like 10... There is, like, how many sequels
Starting point is 00:59:18 of Hellraiser already? There's like seven or eight. And then with the Chainsaw of Texas... The Massacre... Yeah, the Massacre. There's already been like three or four Straight up remake Not even just sequels or spin-offs
Starting point is 00:59:31 Straight up remake Like Spider-Man Like how many fucking Spider-Man one movies Can you fucking remake? There's a new Friday 13th coming out Again Oh yeah I think I think Robert England
Starting point is 00:59:43 Is gonna be just Freddy again There is no reason Yeah but it's people will eat it up It's money It's like a product Well it's like the next episode of a show You know what I mean Did they remake Chuckie?
Starting point is 00:59:52 Yeah I could have sworn like they remade that I was never a big Chuckie guy. Recently, the first Chucky, they remade it. Yeah. I, you know, I started liking Chucky around Bride. Chuckie's Bride.
Starting point is 01:00:04 Yeah. That was a really funny movie. And then the seat of Chuckie was actually... I might go back and watch some of the Chucky movies, because it's been a long... I hate that dog. I never really liked the Chucky movies, but... He fucking sucks for the first three movies.
Starting point is 01:00:14 I hate what he just looks like. You gotta give Chuckie's... He looks like... He looks like... He doesn't even look to the factory and he melts and shit. What's... He doesn't even look like a broken or weird garbage pail kid. He looks just like a broken.
Starting point is 01:00:24 garbage bill kid. Yeah. Yeah. I always liked that they had like little midgets running around like playing him. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:32 They should remake basket case. Oh yeah. The one with the with the monster to basket. Yeah. But keep the hell.
Starting point is 01:00:38 His half brother. Oh! Oh yeah. Reanimator. I would be really curious to see like. Is brain dead? Is that reanimator?
Starting point is 01:00:48 The reanimator's about the guy who got this goo and he like can just make corpses come back to life. Yeah. It's um, it's not
Starting point is 01:00:54 It's the other, Kronenberg. Oh, yeah. But it was a kind of clever, like, funny. They remade the thing. Several times, three times, I think. Oh, you know what? Have they remade the fly? No.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Yes, they did. Did they? There's two versions of the film. Really? The Goplin one is the second one. Yes. Oh. The better one is actually the remake.
Starting point is 01:01:13 The thing is the same case. The better one is the remake. I'm like from like the 30s or 40s? The thing is as well. Do you think they would remake it again? Like a PG-13 version of the place? I would think people would have a problem with the PG-13 version, but I think they could
Starting point is 01:01:26 remake the fly. I did like the fly a lot. I think Goldblum was great, but I do think they could remake it. The flies the one where they going to teleport her with the fly? Yeah, and then he comes out. Because you're already talking about your liking the remake, so you could potentially like another remake. Yes. I think certain movies, yes.
Starting point is 01:01:42 And I really like the original fly. You know, like the original Frankenstein from the 40s is a remake. Oh, and you know that? You know, I think it's going to happen. I think in the next few years, they're going to take a bunch of premises from movies in the years past. but replace the antagonists with dinosaurs. It's not going to be horror movies, but with dinosaurs.
Starting point is 01:02:00 That would be amazing. That would be great. Instead of killer clowns in our space, it's going to be killer dinosaurs from space. Nazi dinosaurs. They set up a dinosaur theme park, but it's actually set up just people. So dinosaurs, they throw out their box with chains
Starting point is 01:02:14 and take you to hell with a dinosaur. There's a bunch of different dinosaurs. So it's basically Jurassic Park, but the whole purpose is to actually lure people in and then murder them all. Is it weird that I think that it's, weird that I think dinosaurs are kind of gay. Like just like, those are kind of gay.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Like it's like... That's your prerogative. Like, I'm not in a homosexual, but I think they're kind of lame. The ancestor... Do you think any other animals on this planet are kind of gay? No, I just think dinosaurs are like really like... I guess they're not utilized to a point where I can be like, well, that's cool. Dinosaurs are cool.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I'm upset they just don't portray them correctly. Yeah. I guess I want more savage fucking like feathered animals. animals that are actually like... I want to see, I want to see a CD version of them feathered because... That's what I'm saying. Is that an actual scientific fact? Yeah, they became feathered.
Starting point is 01:03:02 The problem is, like, with the new Jurassic Park movie, it's like, you see these dinosaurs, you're just like, I don't know, I just feel like I know what I'm gonna see, every time I see it. That's why I didn't go to see it, because I couldn't care less about the dinosaur movie. It sucked. You know, honestly, a lot of people grew up with Jurassic Park is a big part of their life. I never liked Jurassic Park. I saw it once and I hated the kids, and I hated the... I hated the...
Starting point is 01:03:23 The kids are like the... worst thing about it, about any of the dress. I saw recently and I hated the kids. I wanted their fucking raptors to eat the kid, but it never happened. That's what everybody fucking wanted, especially like the little girl. All the eight is a black guy.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Everyone wanted the fucking raptors like rip into her stomach and all the kids would have been fucking clapping and cheering. That was why I actually liked in that one movie, Dead Snow, the... That movie was... Well, Dead Snow, too, that they had the kid and you thought it was totally gonna be
Starting point is 01:03:50 the trope of the Zykit Kid, but the only lasts like five minutes in the movie. Yeah, because nobody wants a kid. They knew it. But that was the whole point. Yeah, like fuck this annoying ass, like side character. There was such fun movies, like, that was like one of those, like, new movies that kind of bring you back to the old movies. Like, dread. Like, I love those kind of movies that, like, bring you back to, like, that's something I didn't like about past movies is when they would introduce a key character and you were a kid and you were watching a movie and they would think, oh, it's relatable. Oh, it's relatable to the kid, but you still hate the fucking kid.
Starting point is 01:04:18 But you're a kid and you're like, I hate this fagg- That fucking kid is a fagg- And it ruins... Jurassic Park movies was like a perfect example. A perfect example. We were watching it and these stupid assholes are shining flashlights in the fucking dinosaur's eyes. And they're like, turn it off. I don't know how. Yeah, and he's just like, I would have fucking did this. Yeah, you're the same age of them. You're like, you just fucking put your hand on it. It's like, you stupid bitch. Like she knows how to hack a fucking national computer, but she doesn't know how to put her hand over the flag. Yeah, exactly. She can hack the fucking government database mainframe. But like she can't fucking fucking. Those at the time where like hackers were really cool. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:51 Yeah. And they're on the girls too. And anytime they hack, it's never like the boring ass like Matrixy. No, it's like a bird over dead. It's like 3D. You're like going into the server and have like computer and like T-shaped people spinning around. Like they're like, they're like, I watch a movie once in the information.
Starting point is 01:05:09 And you see like all these locks and shit like graphics going everywhere. And this like eight year old hacks a helicopter to fall from the sky and she's like, yes. Yeah. Finally. Here's a morbid topic. How wonderful.
Starting point is 01:05:20 You shouldn't get into that. again. We should get into it. Well, we had that one episode on the one podcast about suicide. Yeah. You know, because Shadman's probably an expert on, you know, thinking about this though, I'm just wondering if he had any thoughts on what the best
Starting point is 01:05:36 method of suicide is, which is maybe the worst. I don't know. I think I don't see myself of a guy that I'll have everyone to kill himself. No, no, no, but other people. Judge somebody else's suicide. You probably think about killing other people. Rate someone's suicide. Yeah, rate someone's suicide. Raid the suicide.
Starting point is 01:05:52 Rob Williams, rate one out of ten. Yeah, one out of ten. Embarrassing. Okay, here we go. I want, I want, you get one out of four, one out of four stars.
Starting point is 01:06:01 You ready? Yeah. Okay, jumping off a three-story building. Three-story? Three-story is kind of small. That's a, that's about a three. Jumping out of a three-story building, that's about a three.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Yeah, I give that a three. You would still probably live. Yeah, because that's just a cry for help. Because you would fucking survive that. Yeah, that's a crime of four. Okay. Jumping off the Empire State building. That's a 10 dude. That's fucking attack you know. It's only one out of four That's a four. That's a four. That's a four. All right. You would die
Starting point is 01:06:31 Sleeping pills. A handful of sleeping pills. Bullshit. That's a baby shit. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Then a gallon of rat poison.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Oh, uh, yeah. A whole gallon? A whole gallon. A whole gallon. You would fucking die after your f- first little bit. Fine, you choke me. You might want to fucking call jackass.
Starting point is 01:06:54 Hanging yourself from a doorknob. What? That takes skill. Wait, what did they do? People that hang themselves from a doorknob. Like, they literally sit down and they hang them, like they tie a belt to a doorknob and sit up against the door. I would say that's so embarrassing. It's a little bit more, but if it's stupid.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Why don't we talk more about Robin Williams' suicide specifically? What were you guys feeling? You know why? Because that's trendy, that's trendy bullshit. I don't want to talk about some kind of. What was your feeling during the president of Nintendo's death? I got a tweet about it and I was like, oh, that happened. I felt nothing for him and I felt nothing for Robin Williams.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Even though... I don't know what he's people. I respect the guy who is in charge of Nintendo. And as to Robin Williams, I haven't found him funny in 20 years. Robin Williams, who's my comedy idol, he inspired me to go into comedy. He's got to comedy. I didn't know personally. So when he died, the day he died, we watched Dumongi on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:07:50 I'm sad for your family. And I enjoyed it. Oh yeah, you were there. No, it was at our old place. We were also putting on Jamonji. Remember that? Yeah, yeah. Because it was on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:08:00 They were putting up some Rob-Man. And I liked Jumonji. And Nile was there watching. Oh, I liked it. I liked it. I like the premise of Jamanji. I don't really like Jammani. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:08 Maybe move it over this. Wait, what is the most, what's celebrity, what famous person death bothered you the most? Bothered? Oh. Or upset you the most? I mean you feel something the most. I never...
Starting point is 01:08:20 Brittany Murphy, because people cared. That bothered me. But... Who's Britney Murphy? Exactly. Yeah, she died in 2009. She was just as a hot blonde actress. Is this a shit-talking dead.
Starting point is 01:08:30 This one's supposed to be a shit-talking dead people segment. All right, well, if we're going down that line... Suicides have bothered you. Or deaths, death, sorry. Celebrity deaths. I've said this before, but Patriconeil bothered me. Yeah, Patriconeil and James Gamalfini there. Yes, I was going to say that.
Starting point is 01:08:45 And not because, like, oh, I thought he was... Like, I did think he was really brilliant, but I think he had more in him. Like, he was still, he still, we could have had such great roles if you would have lived on. James Gandalfini was one of the best, uh, fucking pro-actors ever. Yes. Well, if that's the case, I would actually be bummed out by Heath Ledger, because I thought he had more to bring the table if you're going to say that.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Can I say something weird about James Gandalfini? I was in college when he started the Sopranos. Yeah. But he died when he was early 50s, so I keep trying to understand that when he started the Sopranos, he was in his, like, early 30. Yeah, he was in his paraphral. But he looked 50. Yeah, he looked,
Starting point is 01:09:21 that's because he was a fat bald guy. Yeah, but he never ate, he stayed that. He stayed the exact 30s, though. And he was in a lot of movies before Subrano. He looked all the shit. He had such a high charisma. He's in true romance. It's insane.
Starting point is 01:09:33 It's the favorite movies ever. True romance. Have you seen that? No, I haven't. It's really fucking good one. No, true romance is a very famous movie. That's one of the best movies I've ever seen. I gotta see that. Yeah, huh, huh.
Starting point is 01:09:42 I keep saying a fucking movie. I just like that Chad was even interested in watching a movie called true romance. It seems like the opposite. No, I love movies. What's the movie? Who cares? My general thing on movies is more about like the Hollywood, like what you see on the surface. In general, like I couldn't care less.
Starting point is 01:09:59 But when the movie starts to become interesting and thought-provoking, that I like. That's why I like movies like The Godfather. I think that's what actually got me to enjoy a pain and gain. Because at first glance, it was a very like, oh, it's one of these movies. And then it quickly became not that movie. I took the chance and watched it. I thought it wasn't that bad. So I told Stamper about it.
Starting point is 01:10:22 Yeah. That's why I watched it. Sabre talked about a night crawler. Nightcrawler was great. A new movie that is absolutely great. I didn't know anything about it when I put it on, and I was instantly creeped up. Dude, that whole fucking dinner scene,
Starting point is 01:10:35 is like, are you blackmailing me? Yeah, yeah, he's like, yes. Maybe, maybe I am. Yeah, I'm blackmailing you. You are, like, you're fuck. Oh, and then I didn't see Southpaw, but I saw the trailer, and I heard about, That was Jake Gyllenhaal, yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:50 Yeah, as well, yeah. But apparently he did an amazing job in a very subpar movie. He's a great fucking actor. That's a movie where they showed the whole thing in the trailer, so I don't know if I just to see it. Did you ever see Between the Pines? Or is it behind, between the Pines? It was Ryan Gosling and Bradley Cooper? No, I haven't seen that.
Starting point is 01:11:10 It's pretty cool. Sounds like a chick, chick flick. Yeah, there are two fucking hotties, dude. Yeah, but not. Who's cute or not? No, fucking did, dude. No, do you actually ever do that? Do you actually ever jack off to a movie even though it's just like acting and stuff?
Starting point is 01:11:25 Um, wait, let me think. Uh, did I ever jack off to, like, do you jack off to the acting itself? No, like, even though he like builds up scenarios in his mind and jacks off just from the imagery of the people. I think when I was a kid, I jacked off to Michelle Piper's catwoman. I jacked off to Sarah Michelle Geller from Buffy a few times. That is, like, you, you are despicable people. Why? Because I think it's like, you're objectifying.
Starting point is 01:11:48 fucking actresses like enjoy. Dude, I will object your entire fucking existence on this planet. Subsists strictly on objectifying fictional famous characters. Listen, I find it repulsive that you jerk off the heinies. He's joking.
Starting point is 01:12:06 He's joking. He's. Dude, Michelle Pfeiffer in that leather outfit when she's like, I have to give myself a bath. And she just licks herself, and she's just licking this leather arm and rubbing it all over her face. I don't know, I never liked her, I liked the video game. I thought, yeah, I thought Catwoman was a terrible movie, personally.
Starting point is 01:12:24 Not Cat Woman the movie. Not, not... Catwoman the movie, Hallie Berry fucking publicly apologized for making that movie at the Raspberry Awards. What were you talking about? She did Batman. He's talking about the... With Michelle Pfeiffer, not Hallie Berry. He's talking about the new Catwoman movie.
Starting point is 01:12:41 I probably didn't like that either. Yes, and Hallie Berry. I probably didn't like that either. You like weird science? building the girl on the computer and changing and making his breast size really big and they wearing a braz on their heads. Yeah, it was weird because she was like way older. She was kind of older than them, yeah. I mean, now my wife older, girl. It's interesting to see Jeff finding like that interesting, like stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:13:05 I thought it was funny because it was like I saw as a little kid, it was just like this. Yeah. When I was- When I was-guised, when I was a kid and they brought that woman there, the whole thing going through my head was, that's an old lady. But then, you know, when I get older, it's like, yeah. I had the weirdest fetishes when I was a kid, but I'm actually very vanilla now. It's so weird. I know, it's, it's here. No, I'm kind of vanilla.
Starting point is 01:13:30 No, I'm not that vanilla. Dude, when I was a kid, I jerked off to a portion of Valley of the Horses. Do you know what Valley of the Horses is? It was the sequel to the Plain of the Cave Bears. It's a book. Okay, now I feel better about what I'm going to say. I'm a fucking kid on an airplane reading this book. No, I was like fucking 13.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Nobody's vanilla. I'm not vanilla, but I like bust stuff, I like kind of dominating girl. I know it sounds really... No, nobody's vanilla. Whatever. There's no such things. I like being the one who's like, no, whatever, okay, that's stupid. I get off to the Enterprise 1701A model. What is that even mean? Refurbished it in the Star Trek motion picture. The first time I ever got a boner when I was, I was a kid. Was the scene where like Jafar was able to fucking control Princess Jasmine? You drew up and I was like, oh man, he can make her like do what?
Starting point is 01:14:16 whatever he wants. You're all the general. Shed, you know, you- I was like, if I can make fucking Princess Jasmine spread her asshole right now, and she wouldn't be able to do anything about it. You thought that as a kid? As a kid. Can you name one thing that actually turns you on?
Starting point is 01:14:29 Here, I'll name a bunch. Gang bangs, cum shots, women with high, women with leather boots that reach past their kneecaps. I mean, I could go on. What's one thing that turns you on? I guess it's a top-hug-n-it-it-it-it-it-it-dust. D-Discusting.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Knee socks. It's a sick question. You're a sick man. I'm sick enough to answer that. We can't get an answer to somebody. It's just not worth discussing. Listen. No fun.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Listen. No fun here. I like a girl which she's willing to show her ankle. And, you know, she keeps it piecey. If she shows her hair. Do you like a nice color bone? Guys, this is a fucking peaties. I like a nice collarbone in a fucking jewel to the church.
Starting point is 01:15:12 Like a nice cloth. A little bit of a little bit of. Make us like the most like. white fucking like interest like letter boots that go knee high gang bags trade big black dick you just say that I have the most white interest yeah how is that a white thing it's like just like with like fucking white businessman when they come home
Starting point is 01:15:33 they look on the computer yeah just to fucking teenage gay every fucking foreign cover it's like oh I'm yeah I'm sure the black guys most yeah just like fucking huge big black dicks yeah you want to know something black guys hate gangbangs, they hate, they hate cum shots. They might. Chinese people hate, wait, aren't the Japanese in huge fucking gangbangs? What a weird fucking races?
Starting point is 01:15:55 Don't put the Chinese in Japanese. I saw a video. Fukaki is a fucking phrase, specifically for an old group of Japanese dudes to come on a fucking girl's face. Japanese people are into humiliation. They're not into that kind of- Oh, humiliation. I hate humiliation.
Starting point is 01:16:07 Well, that's what they're really- Is that a white thing or is that, what race does that go to? Hold on, shut up. Shad, Humiliation porn. Which, which race do you? attribute that one to Germans. The French. I get humiliation, that's one that I do get.
Starting point is 01:16:25 No, I just meant like your interest, they're like... What on the other side? What you think porn would be like? You know, like, that's like the surface of porn. Like... I think a lot of it comes from... I think a lot of it comes from... What society you want you to like. That's not true at all. Society doesn't want me to like any of those things.
Starting point is 01:16:40 Yes, it does. You know, what part of society wants me to like gangbanks? You know? No, no, no. name the part of society. What, like a Coca-Cola ad or Microsoft? It's subconsciously. It's subconsciously. Yeah, your fucking website.
Starting point is 01:16:54 No, no, no, I promote different things. You're supposed to promote. Yeah, you promote, uh, bestiality. Shed doesn't discriminate. Pia. No, Shedda. I don't, rape, murder. No.
Starting point is 01:17:04 I don't, I don't, I don't. I swear to God. Listen. I swear, there's nothing to do with that. You guys, just isn't discriminating. Between sexual and that's all of that. Thank you. You, I don't.
Starting point is 01:17:11 You know, I'm doing it based on maybe two or three pictures. that is, that is the game. Two or three. Two or three. I've seen hundreds of his pictures. That is complete ignorance. You guys are being ignorant. He can laugh all you want, but it's true.
Starting point is 01:17:24 You said, I've seen hundreds of his pictures. You're saying all this stuff, but it's, we're talking generalization. You're saying generalization. So is he. Fucking gang bang is white man porn? He doesn't do gang bang, though. No, I know he doesn't do gang bang.
Starting point is 01:17:39 I didn't mean specifically for white man. No, I didn't. No, I said he called gang bang porn, white form. I said that you... I said he does bichialdi and pedophilia. I don't do pedophilia. Oh that's right. The characters are just a little bit older. That's right. Like, they're 12, 13-ish. Like this, make, that's offensive. That's why. Why is that offensive? I just find... The girls have no boobs and they look super... Because they're midgets!
Starting point is 01:18:05 I find you to be an offensive person. Wow. No boobs. Oh, I'm sorry. The one we have in the fucking room or on the fucking walls is absolutely a girl with virtually no boobs. no boobs. Chad, since you're an expert on pornography. I'm not. I'm I think you are. Where do you draw the line? What do you say you are then? Hold on. I know my way around the porno-porn-o-porn- If you don't think you do, if what you do is not pornography, what do you do? It's art. I draw. What is- what do you find more attractive? In a, and in whatever sense you want to consider it?
Starting point is 01:18:36 Look, a cat or a seven-year-old girl. Oh, for fuck's a cat. The dumbest stuff I've ever heard. Well, what's the cat doing? What's the cat doing? Fingering itself. I don't know. Kid looking at some? They're both fingering themselves.
Starting point is 01:18:58 I'm not sexually interested in felines are minors. No felines are minors. Okay, well that's good. Listen, there is a difference between what you enjoy in art and what you enjoy in real life. Like, next makes... That's so... That is so true. Listen, okay, you know, there's certain things like, because it's like people think like, oh, because you, if you do this stuff, that means you're totally into real life. For instance.
Starting point is 01:19:24 I agree. And that's how, like, a lot of artists do that too. That's what people don't understand. No, I'm just saying this as a generalization. I know you guys are joking, but in generalization, people are like, oh, because you like this, therefore you're into this. It's like, no, I absolutely fucking hate this, but I like this. The art form, because I can shape this exactly how I want it. That's so fucking true because anytime I tell people I like hentai art, they always go, oh, bullshit, you're just jack off to it.
Starting point is 01:19:48 But I'm like, no, I think the art is actually really fucking good. You don't get turned on, you just find it beautiful. I find it really good. I swear to God, that's, I swear to God, there's a dude with like a jizz stream frozen in the air. If it looks like a really, if it looks like a really cool ice cube, I feel like that's cool. I've seen beautiful, hyper-realistic looking jiz streams that I've legitimately. Yeah, you felt that. Realism doesn't matter.
Starting point is 01:20:13 I said, I mentioned before that he didn't, that he wasn't a fan of people murdering with guns, that he thought that was cheap and lame. But he drew it. But he thinks guns and games are cool. Yeah, but in real life, guns are fucking lame.
Starting point is 01:20:26 I agree. No, no, no. I absolutely agree. And I think that that distinction is really key. I think that's a really great distinction to make. And I think a lot of people, I don't know why they always just associate, like, oh, if you create something,
Starting point is 01:20:39 you must be that thing always. It's the generalization. Well, I think it's also like a kind of synchronism. Like, it's hard for them to ever associate like, oh, you could ever make something that isn't exactly what you think all the time. It's like category. Categorization. I don't I'm saying all these dumb words. But it's like when people say like, oh, like there's an artist who does nothing but gay art, they must be gay.
Starting point is 01:21:01 Right. They're completely straight. But yet they think they're gay. And then there's some people who do nothing but straight art and they're super gay. But since they do straight out, they're like, oh, these people are. you know, straight. And it's like, and if you do a little bit of it, you're either by, but it's like, you have to be put in a category. It's like, well, how can you do that if you don't understand it? It's like, well, there's females who draw and create like movies, scripts
Starting point is 01:21:23 or comic characters that are male. And there are males who create, you know, female characters. You don't have to be that thing in order to, you know, make a thing about that thing. That's the people to understand. And that's what's really like... And yet you never see a problem when someone makes like something violent. You never see someone accusing them of committing homicide. I never see that. Yeah, someone who makes a violent game, they're not going to them and we're like,
Starting point is 01:21:43 you must murder people regularly. And that's because of centuries of Christianity. Sure. They repressed sexuality so far that it is constantly on our brain. Exactly. And that's the difference between... And you're always looking for a finger-to-point when it comes to sexuality.
Starting point is 01:21:57 With violence, like occasionally, like there's a school shooting, they're like, oh, they were watching this movie or something. Christianity promotes violence. Well, that's, I mean, yeah, that's actually true. I mean, in terms of, I mean, any religion does to agree. And courage violence against the ones that are not part of your clan. Right. Buddhism, I think, is about as close as you get to not having that.
Starting point is 01:22:15 But Buddhism is one of the, I think, the only atheistic religion. Yeah, it's less of a religion and more of a... I really like that religion. Yes, yeah. I really like that religion. Yeah, it's an atheistic religion where they don't have a deity. I thought Buddha was the deity, though. No, that's like one of their prophets.
Starting point is 01:22:31 He's the guy who did it. Yeah. He's the epitome of what you want to achieve. Yes. But he's not God. He's not God. God. Oh, that's even more interesting. I think my stepdad's Buddhist.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Buddhist is a good religion. I like that one. That's about as close as I get to religion just because I was raised in Buddhist out. Because my dad, I stepdad, he meditates all the fucking time. Meditation works. I didn't think it worked, and then I moved in with a hippie about two years ago. And I moved in with this hippie. And he goes, all right, so I'm going to put this video on YouTube and just get into it. So I sat down. I was like, this is not going to work. I sat down. And we were doing something called Kundalini. It was actually called Kundalini. It was like, the guy goes, kept going. young cundalini
Starting point is 01:23:08 I was like this is bullshit and I was like Coonolini man my mom says that Kunilini is like a fucking gay way to hell You say you're saying all the words I think your mom's wrong I think your mom's wrong
Starting point is 01:23:19 To your fucking bedroom But meditation All those fucking words that's hanging on You're creating Like this guy that I live A ring appears in your living room And he just comes out Satan's just waiting
Starting point is 01:23:30 He's like oh Keep singing motherfucker This guy that I love him and all But he was a bit fucking nuts He thought his life goal was to fight a giant and to beat a giant. That's usually what Kundalini singers think. Yeah, but he was a great guy though. Yeah, I think the idea of, like, you know, they talk about meditation,
Starting point is 01:23:48 but I think we all find different forms of meditation. You know, meditation is a way to clear your mind in order to kind of, like, reflect on yourself and to be able to see things. Sleep is a form of meditation. Sleep is definitely one of those. And I also do think, I honestly think that, like, you know, for me, like sometimes it's doing the dishes. Like, when I do the dishes, I literally go into a zone.
Starting point is 01:24:09 Some people, when they play games, sometimes when they doodle, sometimes when they, even if they put on videos in the background, all of a sudden it's like, that sound or whatever it is that they... A familiar movie. Yeah, I think it's the familiarity of a repetition that something is now happening that you're used to, that you can kind of like... That's blocking, that's like a filter to like all the other things.
Starting point is 01:24:29 It's like a wall around you, and now you can just do your thing and you can think about... You can think. And I think whether that's working out or watching videos or music or meditating and humming or whatever, you find a way to put a wall around you so you can just spend time with your own thoughts. For me, it's more like a thing where it's like I can't have something where like lots of jump cuts very loud. It has to be almost like even if there's like some of that, it has to be like because there's like a few reviewers I really enjoy. And I've watched her stuff like hundreds of fucking times. I always like rewatch your stuff
Starting point is 01:25:05 Because like even if they do some things that bother me They they still legitimately have I'm just so fucking used to how they sound That hearing them is kind of like you know Yeah It puts you in that place Like uh It's the critic, what's that critic's name?
Starting point is 01:25:20 Oh yeah nostalgia critic he's totally And I am, let's say their one The uh Rite Gamer Yeah oh totally It's old Irate Gamer It's like a fucking dad humor I read Gamer
Starting point is 01:25:31 Listen listen listen listen listen I have I will say the nuance Ira Gamer is getting on my fucking nerves. But old Irish Gamer, he was just so charming. Like, he was innocent. He's trying to make his start. He's like, look at me. I'm trying to get out there. Like, he's just putting all this effort.
Starting point is 01:25:44 And now he's just like... But he was always a cornball. Dude, he's totally a dad now. So his dad humor really stems from being a fucking unfunny dad. He is a dad. He's a dad. He's a dad. So his dad jokes are legitimate.
Starting point is 01:25:57 It's like familiarity lulls you into a safety. Like a mother's voice would do to a bad. baby. Yeah. And it's not even like you're listening to the words anymore. Yes. You're just in that zone. You're glad to be there. Yeah. To be with him. Like this womb of their voice. It really is.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Like, when there's something that you can relisten to you over and over and over but it's like it never really bothers you. It's good to have those games. Yeah. It really does. Even if it's something as fucking gay as Ira Gamer, by the way I think it's funny. I have a question, Chad. You follow
Starting point is 01:26:30 Angry Video Game here. Yes. Or you You've been a long time. I still do. I was watching, I was watching his fucking, like, non-tilemon. Are you a longtime fan? Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 01:26:39 So do you guys, I'm curious, did you guys notice a change in his sense of humor after he had a kid? Absolutely. And it's the same thing. Like you, like the video after?
Starting point is 01:26:51 Or just over time? I don't know when he's actually had a kid, but it started at very, very obvious. Interesting. When you watch something, it's exactly what you say. You get in this funk where you,
Starting point is 01:27:00 these patterns you're used to. And then, it starts to change every once in a while you start maybe the editing starts getting quicker or something like he tries that you know there's like more like stuff he tries to say that didn't really say before he's not trying to review maybe he's trying to do more skits and you just you get these weird senses like the new nostalgic critic um like his stuff is very skittish but his reviews are still solid but his skits are fucking umbearable and sometimes he has these scenes that are just like oh like you want to fucking skip them because like you can hear him the back of your
Starting point is 01:27:32 You're just like you're trying to work but you hear it and then you listen to his old stuff and it's like you know It's him and he's just talking and maybe he makes a unfunny joke once in a while but even now I know you guys have said you This skits are cringy as fuck but you guys still believe that his opinions on things are very accurate or well thought out not even accurate or well thought out I just still think he's an he's an entertaining personality Just when he's talking yes When he's a lot of charisma and I like I even though like you know like it's kind of you built this relationship with that character and it's the same if it's if you build a relationship with a TV show character yeah soon as you see the character you're
Starting point is 01:28:10 gonna like him and even if he does something yeah that was for me I was saying that was like Bob's burgers like I watched enough of it where like I don't necessarily think some of the episodes are actually funny but I'm used to the characters being they are that yeah that you just kind of like who they are would you fuck Tina from Bob's gonna she's fucking gross YouTube really only wide categories here it's like cooking home improvement in autism. Because he's clearly in autism.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Who? The, uh, the irate game right now. He is. No, absolutely. Nostalgia critic. He wavers in the autism category. Actually, I take it back. I would fuck, you know. All right. Go on. Why? Oh, no, I'm just saying, like, I would not fuck her.
Starting point is 01:28:51 She looks like a fucking Muppet. If she was of legal age and she... What didn't, she didn't have a fucking Muppet face? Where her fucking mouth is, like, is like... I would, you know what? It's not like, I didn't say, like, I would go seeking after I'm saying like if we were at a party and she really wanted it. You'd see her out, you're like, okay, I mean, yeah, if you really want it.
Starting point is 01:29:11 Nick is a pervert. I'm not a pervert. I just, I like to make people happy. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good excuse. That's what Jared from Subway said as well. Shut up. What's the fucking pedophile say. No, it's not it. I'm wired.
Starting point is 01:29:29 I said if she really fucking wanted it and she was of legal, legal age and, you know, like, why does she have to be legal age? Because it's Tina, she's not. She's a fucking kid. She's a fucking cartoon character. There's no rules. Here's a question. If somebody here, if the cops found child pornography on somebody's computer here, theoretically. Eoretically. Would everybody else still be friends of that person? Would we shun them forever? How are young, though? Well, here's the thing. I don't know. What classifies? What is, what is, okay, when they say child,
Starting point is 01:30:02 I'm just curious. How old are these kids? I don't know. I don't know. What is the age? I don't even know what, like, are they like seven? What are they like 13? I guess, there's almost like two categories. There's like, really bad child pornography, which is like seven younger, and then there's like seven to 13. You're like this. They're still terrible. I can vow by it. You still go to fucking prison Friday in one, so, you know, it's all the fucking same.
Starting point is 01:30:27 I despise children, like for the fucking class. Oh yeah, I don't find them attractive. I hate them. They're fucking loud. They're annoying. But is it like... I don't want to see them. Like the art form?
Starting point is 01:30:38 Closed or not. What is it about... What did you think people are seeking? People who want to watch that book? What are they looking for? Is it just the... Relativity? Is it the innocence?
Starting point is 01:30:48 No, I don't think... Yeah. One child is getting hard. Ruining their... ...demeanography videos. But I think... I think it's more, yeah, ruining innocence.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Yeah, like the ruining of innocence. Probably. Like the virginity thing. The whole, like, popping the first chariot. That's interesting. But I'm the opposite though. I'm into like sluts who just love taking... Yeah, I don't mind. I'm totally into total
Starting point is 01:31:07 size. That's why it's like... This is white man porn. I know that's a hypocrisy. Huge big sluts who fucking love dick so it's like I'll never be a pito, I don't think. For peto, as you married me too. I think there's a huge hypocrisy with the whole child child pornography thing. Like this unspoken thing
Starting point is 01:31:23 that's so, like the majority of grown guys are into it. However, they will not admit to it. And that shows by no majority. You know the majority? What the most popular pornography is? Wait, are you seeing the majority of people are into the essence? Yes. You know, teen.
Starting point is 01:31:36 Young teenager. The younger, the better, the more barely legal, the more people like them. That's the most popular thing in the porn in the scene. That's actually a . And then you go to like, the most popular, but milf is the second most. Yeah, I was gonna say, milf is actually, I much go for milk. But teens are so much more popular in milfs and when you go to places like a dark web, child pornography is the most sought after thing. Have you been to the dark web?
Starting point is 01:32:00 I don't know. I have. I've been there a few times. But the thing is that so many... I didn't get there. I didn't get there. I don't go there. I go to a dark man. Yeah, see. No, but see, there's clearly something wrong with that because any person who's actually had sex with somebody knows that a grown woman is much more capable
Starting point is 01:32:20 in bed. So I think when you're looking for like milfs or clearly like seasoned, you know, you're looking for someone who knows how to please, who knows how to fuck. If you're looking for these barely illegal or children porn, it's nothing to do with fucking anymore. What if you're like... Now it's some... It's not about sex anymore.
Starting point is 01:32:38 It's about power or... Yeah. ...or some psychological thing. Because you know children or younger girls cannot do what these professionals or older women can do. Exactly. I agree. That is my opinion. Is it a turn on psychologically destroying them for the rest of their lives?
Starting point is 01:32:54 You just like... Maybe it has to be something like that. It's a natural attraction to you. Do you think from... So you're saying a lot of... of people look for that do you think a lot of those people those men let's say they're men let's see the men that watch that possibly have children and or female siblings yes I can understand see how that's even fucking possible because like I
Starting point is 01:33:13 have a hard time like even like looking at like a college girl now if she looks just because of my sister like this is weird there's a distinction there's a different worlds there are different worlds it's like when you're having sex with someone you're not thinking of your mom right not thinking of like you just have that's a complete different world I see. So you're saying, you're saying more like teens, not like little kids. No, no, because little kids aren't allowed.
Starting point is 01:33:36 That's why teens are the closest thing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's that. He's actually right. But I do think, like, before puberty, like, before puberty, that is, like, weird. But the thing is that puberty starts with a lot of kids at, like, 12, 13 around that age. Yeah, exactly. That's what that would be more popular.
Starting point is 01:33:52 You didn't have enough sex when you were younger. So, like, when you get older, you look at the young ones, like opportunities that you wish you had or could have had. That's a good theory. Because I honestly, the older I get, like, you know, young girls are very attractive, but I, what I seek is the more, what clearly are not mature, like, old ladies, but, you know, women that are-Lady from next door? What do you think of guys? What do you think of guys who are, like, 30s, 40s, 50s, but they want to date teenage girls?
Starting point is 01:34:22 That's fucking weird to me. Because they're just mentally, they're mentally, I can't stand, though. Well, then I think, yeah. They kind of, like, forced them. sugar daddy and they're just they're just mentally still kind of they're not they're just annoying are you projecting project no your own ideas to see how you react to them if you exactly I find like teen girls annoying no teenagers are the I hate teenagers so fucking much doesn't mean I won't fuck a teenager I'm just saying like teenagers in general I hate like
Starting point is 01:34:54 with a passion war of teen girls showed up oh my god I would be so fucking infuriated but then fuck them. No, well, like, if they were 18. Oh, fuck them. 18. Only at third legal age. I would have sex with it. If there were 17 years old,
Starting point is 01:35:09 if there were 17 and 364 days old, no surrey, no attraction whatsoever. However, if it was their birthday that day and I would wait. Till they were fucking 18. So I think a good year point,
Starting point is 01:35:24 I think good year point is 10 years up or down from your own age. I think that's a very... So when you're 18, you can have sex with an 8 year old? No. Yes, let's just move it up. Can we move it up? So if you're 38, if you're with someone who's 28 or 58, or no, 48, I think that makes sense.
Starting point is 01:35:46 I think as you get older, that makes more sense. Obviously, you know, if you're 8 years old, it doesn't make sense to fuck someone that's negative 2. Half your age plus 7. It works. Oh, half your age plus 7? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I was gonna ask today there's been a collision. Isn't that from a thing? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:59 That's a good common thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That actually... Half your age was seven. So what am I? 24, 12 plus 7. 19? That's too old, man.
Starting point is 01:36:06 I don't need to go over like 16. Too old? 16, man. Too old. I think half your age plus 7 makes more sense. Yeah. What would that be for me? I'm 35.
Starting point is 01:36:18 I would be... What is that? 17 plus 7. 24. My age. Let's listen to the show, Oaken Anthony. He's like 50-something.
Starting point is 01:36:28 Yeah. He went to a prom with a... Dude, Anthony, though, he is like... He's very questionable and a lot of fucking... Wait, wait, wait. Like, actually went to the prom? Like, as a date date? Or, like, as a chaperone?
Starting point is 01:36:39 Yeah, no, Anthony Cumia, he's very, very questionable in a lot of ways. I can spend a whole podcast to thought about this guy out. He's so intelligent and funny at times, but he's a huge racist, and he's, like, a poor lamb pedophile. Well, I really like Roman Blansky.
Starting point is 01:36:55 And I really like... I mean, I don't really love Woody Allen, but I like him. But those guys are both notorious in terms of... And even Billy Joel is kind of relatively, yeah. What? That's my thought. I didn't know anything about that.
Starting point is 01:37:08 I just know his music. I think, I believe it was like an adopted daughter, like an adopted daughter that he had. What? I only kind of like rediscovered Billy Joel like recently. I need to Google that. Someone to Google that. It may not be the case.
Starting point is 01:37:22 No, that's sad because I only like discovered him recently. I love Billy Joel. He's really like the music. But you know, looking at a guy like Jeff, I could see a teenage girl being a huge part in the time. Oh, yeah. I could see Jeff with both of his arms out flexing and girls holding onto his biceps. No, Jeff would be, are you saying I would welcome this into my life? No, Jeff would absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:37:46 It would be, like, if it would happen. You see Jeff like getting texts, you're getting texted like all hours of the night? Just like, how you doing? What are you doing right now? What do you do? I miss you. Jeff would be a teen heart. I said that completely wrong. I find guys my age annoying, let alone girls at half my age.
Starting point is 01:38:07 Holy shit. I'm turning my phone off forever. Jeff is a teen heart. I have zero patience for almost anybody. I'm not interested in teenagers and shit. No, I hate teenagers. You know, here's how I see it. I think art is completely different from real life.
Starting point is 01:38:23 What I see in art is completely what my body says. Yeah, yeah, in my opinion, if the character's young and it's art, but to me, it's like, you know, it's fucking art. And even then, I kind of draw a line, like, there's artists who draw stuff that's a little, makes me too uncomfortable, so I still have boundaries. Would you play a dating sim, like a 2D and anime girl dating sim? Sure. Sure. It's a game. It's not going to, there's going to be no effect.
Starting point is 01:38:49 I thought that's apparently a big industry, I'm just curious. No, no, I would do it, but I mean, like, I'm not very invested in those things because I hate, like, the underlying. like oh you have to sleep there's all this like you have to like it's all the same shit you like go to the store you buy flower no you gotta do your job you get up a package you get five bucks yeah I fucking do you buy yourself a beer or do you buy flowers for the girl if you give her flowers in the first round she's like who are you why did you give you flowers here's the thing like there's there's also like comics and stuff and like you know like henties and dosions where the characters
Starting point is 01:39:19 are underage what's a dogen is that what's called doion it's like a comic term for a comic oh it's a hentai Is Hensai the anime and Dojin is the manga? I think Dojin, yeah. Okay. I just didn't know what about it. I think so. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:39:34 I don't know if that's actually Dozenji. I think it's called Dojan. I was joking around, but I actually brought it to Tom and said when we finish this game, what if we made like a creepy dating, a dating game? Maybe not even creepy, just something weird. I don't know. Some kind of just dialogue-based. It should be really realistic, too.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Like, if you go on a date with this one girl, like, and it doesn't work out, quote-unquote. Like, you'll start, like, dating some other girl. but then that old girl keeps texting you, like just randomly throughout the game. It's almost like too realistic, just like it makes you quit the game. You just hate everything about it. You quit the game.
Starting point is 01:40:04 See, what would make it really realistic is if you quit the game, but then she was still able to text your actual phone. This is making me like really appreciate being single. Called like Monster Dater. Yeah. No, she would just keep texting your actual phone or sending you emails,
Starting point is 01:40:17 like even though you quit the game. I tried making a dating the same game ages ago. It was very intricate and I stopped doing it. because it was too hard. Is this the creepest episode of the recording? My game had a night and day sequence, like, cycle. Oh my God, what?
Starting point is 01:40:35 Like, you would... Is there a maker for the, like, RPG maker? Is there a... I bet they were. Dating Sim maker? I did it in Flash. And I had it, I purposely made it, so the time frame was five minutes,
Starting point is 01:40:49 and all I did was just take the color orange and make it slowly fade in after a while. So you had this like 60 million. So that same, yeah, that symbol was actually just the fucking like, that was the whole symbol in the background? That became night. Is that still online anywhere? Absolutely. You never finished it.
Starting point is 01:41:07 I never finished it. It was too intricate. Like when you start doing like missions and stuff, like she's like, oh, come with me to a place and you follow her to a place and sit through some bullshit. And then she tells you, like, she talks about it and you have to answer it. And if you get a bunch of stuff wrong, you lose. I want to know, I want to see your script for it. I want to see what you told the girls to say. Dude, it was like 15.
Starting point is 01:41:28 I know. That's why I want to see it. What do girls talk like when you're 15? I was like 16. It had intricate sex scenes. Of course it did. Of course it did. You say like a few things right.
Starting point is 01:41:39 You can fuck her because I didn't want to do anything. Right in the beginning? Like right at the start of the game. Yeah, you go to her fucking thing and she's like, I'm horning. And then you can fuck her immediately. I was just like, fuck it. Nobody cares. It's like, do you say ABC or enter, enter phrase here.
Starting point is 01:41:55 And if you get to enter that phrase, it was just a quick, quick jump right to the end of the game. Exactly. It was like a button you can press immediately after you watch something. And that was a very interesting point, Shadman, shadbass.org. Hey, thanks so much for joining guys. You guys are the best. We're going to fuck off now, so why don't you do the same? Good luck.
Starting point is 01:42:13 Bye! Bye! That was, survival of the sickest. Join us next time on Sleepycast. I'm writing another poem, but I... can't think of anything that rhymes with herpes. Don't worry. This poem is about my friend. Although, I do have her piece. Goodbye.

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