SleepyCabin - SleepyCast Manhunt : Final Round | Tom Ryan | Shadman Vs The World

Episode Date: October 24, 2015

SleepyCast Editor Manhunt : Final Round Editor : Tom Ryan

I'm so touched truly to be here. Welcome. Are you sitting comfortably? This is the Sleepy Cast Lost episode channel. Today's presentation is from October 2015. The year before the apocalypse. Please enjoy, and remember, help is on its way. Shadman versus the world.

Featuring Rice Pirate, Nile, Johnny, Utah, Spaz Kid, and Shadman. I like to keep little children in my basement when they have been naughty. If they can't please me, they can earn their freedom. Ha ha! Shad, what is healthcare like in Switzerland? You know, I'm with Corey that I never went to an emergency room,

even though I have been severely hurt before. But that's because I believe in Darwinian, of the fittest. The reason is if someone gets hurt, if someone gets kidney stones, Darwinian law wants them to die. It's like, you have fucked up. Your diet is bad.

Die, please, so the next generation won't make the same mistake. It's not a kidney stone thing is like a freak thing. And the less freak things pass on their genes, the less kidney stones will be in the future generation. It's not like cancer moves through. It's not quite like cancer in the family. Yeah, it's not hereditary. That's the thing.

A lot of people get, you know, kidney stone is coming down a pipe. If it turns the wrong way, like mine did it, it turns sideways. It gets stuck and it makes your life a living hell. If it didn't turn the side, it would just come out normally and it wouldn't be a big deal. But it's just, the fact, well, hold on. The fact that you're saying kidney stones coming out normally and that you occasionally fucking piss out kidney stones is not normal, though. I've never had a kidney stone in my life. A lot of, a lot of people get them.

Do they? Yeah, and the less people, the more people that would die getting them, the less would have them. It's like 10 or 20% of the population. Really? Yeah. I don't think so. I don't think it's hereditary though. I think it's like, uh... My dad used to get him a lot. My dad gets them a lot. See? You see that? Right there?

Yeah, but I'm just saying, okay, anyone can get a tumor, right? So if you had like a state... The thing is... Yeah, but anyone can get cancer. No, no, no, anyone can. Sure. You know, I'm glad you're alive. Yeah. I don't say you're... Oh, of course. You too.

The way you looked in Shad, you're like, yeah, you too. I was just saying, I was just saying from a logical standpoint, I think that... I think you're being too. too logical, though. A lot of people, they admit themselves in the hospital, even though they shouldn't, and Darwinian law wants them to die. There are people that take advantage of the system, and they're... What's the term for somebody who

thinks they're... Hypochondria? There's people who go all the time for no reason, they waste everybody's time, but... Like, Nile, they should have just left him there, and he would have been perfectly fine. I actually would have been fine, and I'd have more money in my pocket. So do you feel if anybody, if anybody even has the slightest medical problem,

it's like no mercy, it's like... If you have a fever, and it's... It's like 103 and you're taking all the, like, Advil and like whatever. Then give my possessions to the generation below me and let me pass on because my genes aren't good. Okay, so what if you're stranded in a desert? Nobody has nothing to do to dictate anything, but you have running out of water. Fucking Tom Cruise has a tooth in the middle of his face. You ever see that?

Yo, what if you contracted a disease from somebody else? One that virtually no bodies are capable of dealing with, but medication could solve it. What if you got swine flu? You know, there's always like, there's extremes. There's extremes, yes. And then I believe, yeah, then help me. Medicine, modern medicine, help me. But I was just saying, well, if you're going to the emergency room, that's generally an extreme.

But most people, it's not an extreme. Like, all these cases I've heard right here, they're not extremes. But if it was something more like, what if, it sounds like his kidney stone was, and that you're not in a place to say that wasn't extreme because he would fucking disagree. Okay, it's just true. It's true that kidney stones do sound horrible, but it's just, same time, it's your own fault. Not necessarily.

It is. You don't know, you don't know what exactly will always cause. It's a very random event that can cause them. If I came to your room and I broke your back. That's like that's not my fault.

That was your fault. How are you saying, but it's kidney stones are his fault. You turned the wrong way in your bed while you're sleeping and you busted your spine somehow. Yeah, that could happen. Then I'm an idiot.

because I can't take care of myself. What if someone else did it? Listen to this. Like me, on my mom's side, or my grandpa's side, what's the disease where you shake a lot? Parkinson's.

Yeah, like my aunt has Parkinson's, my grandpa has Parkinson's, my mom's starting to get it. So I'm pretty sure because of that percentage, I may have a high percentage of getting it.

You're drawing out now. You're shadd, man. What if? So I'm gonna have to treat that in the future. Possibly. just do a little shake videos. That's what happens for existing, I guess. What if you're in your room,

mind you're in business, drawing your tithies and whatever, your shit coming out of an asshole, or something. I never, that is just derogatory. All right, you've done some nice shiny titties.

And, let's say you're a little older in life. Let's say you're 40s. And you, all of a sudden, you blink and you can't see out of your one out. You get a detached retina. I tell you what.

Chad already, I tell you what. I tell you what. I shouldn't be living 40. That is not like I shouldn't be 30 if I should be 30 and that happens You're like then at least you got a few years left I should fucking find something to make myself shift myself an eye patch because that eye is dead What if a doctor would be like I can fix it I can fix it next week I really like I'd ask him how much what if a doctor said I'll fix it for free Let's do it now what so you would but you wouldn't be like no no no you see

Nature dictated no no no no no no those are like this is ridiculous that doesn't happen That doesn't happen. That's like, that's ridiculous. No, but there's experimental. There's experimental. No, there's experimental procedures. Sometimes you'll have a, like a weird thing.

And they'll be like, you know what, we'll do this. It's experimental. We're going to do this procedure. But I mean, it doesn't happen that you just, your eye just doesn't work anymore. It's an explanation. It does happen. Well, no, he said detection.

It happened to a family member. One of my family members woke up and could not see out of their eye. What if, like, what if it is nature to have somebody to help you with your eye, like someone who just knows, who knows that feel. Like they had witch dog. That's good. I think, but like, in all seriousness, and I think that's a serious thing,

and if there's a way to help it, you should look into it. But I'm saying, like, little illnesses, like someone passing out or someone, like, breaking their hands. Yeah, something like that. I actually do agree in some ways. But what if he passed out?

Like, my dad recently passed out, and it was because he had a serious heart condition. If you passed out in the movie theater and these people were, like, we're taking into the administration, couldn't you be like, I'm not going to, I did do that, but I did do that, but I did do that, but I was unconscious

when they put me in the ambulance. I would have said take me out right now because I'm not going to the emergency room and I'll take you the court for sports community or the emergency room or something. I was delirious when I woke up so apparently I signed the consent form. Yeah of course they were fucking holding your head. Yeah they are. You were fucking trying to figure out of it either. I have no memory of it either.

I remember your signature. It's just a fucking scribble across the page. This is good enough for them now. No. Wouldn't you all agree that there are too many people, we live for too long because of too many people going to the hospital? I agree. and I believe more people should be dead and I don't want to be one of them

I feel like we live in if we're getting into this like thing it's always everybody else we're too populated people need to die except for me I wouldn't mind being one of them kill me right now

do it right fucking now what is the optimal age people should die it do you think the optimal age they feel like they're out of their usefulness is there's some people that are very useful I've talked to make about this before

and I do believe it's like it's scientific fact that in nature, the age of 25 is when people reach their peak of physical fitness, like just health. You know, people age at different rates, though. That's also very true. It's like, that's kind of a ballpark. And then I think up to 30 it should be fine, but as soon as they start to go beyond that, they should consider... Even just physically but not mentally, but like, if you look at Jeff here, he's mentally and physically still very fit. That's true. Like, he's still, he's this... He looks here on... I'm aging gracefully.

So people age gracefully, but I'm saying... You know, I'm as old as Jeff. I'm two years older than you. I will be... 12 years old. This year. I'll be... 16 years young baby.

It's a difficult question because, like, in this short interlude of everlasting darknesses, there is obviously differences between how people age. Yes. But I do believe that there's a certain part where you are already dead. Like, Nile once quoted, you quoted, who was it, Benjamin Franklin, who said some people, they die when they're 25,

but they don't get buried until they're, like, 50. Until they're 70. That's a cute phrase. And it's, I find that to be very true. Do you ever want to take a day off from, like, I'm not going to be nihistic today. I'm just going to be positive. And then I'll go back to be nilistic tomorrow.

You know, when you look at things how they are, you know, you know what's amazing about Shad though, because we have these conversations in the car and in the kitchen. Shad's nihilism has some very clear limits in terms of, oh, life is meaningless, why don't I just die today? But then we will talk, and there will be times when he openly admits that he's very happy to be alive. I am. And that, well, if there's no purpose, then why do it? and any time we get to a point where he's starting to sound more and more human, the only thing Shad can say is it's because I'm weak.

He's because I am flawed. He sees it as a weakness. I am weak like other humans, but it does not mean that it is wrong. You know, that this viewpoint that life is meaningless, why don't you feel yourself? Chad's perspective is, I think it's one of the best perspectives you can have on life because it kind of encourages you to do whatever you want. But do you think that like your perspective is equally as valid as everyone else's perspective because it's subjective and Definitely beholder everything is a you know like currency that has been a social subject like social means have made up currency they've made up time they've made up

Yeah, fucking Ecuador I can't use the Ecuador to tie a fucking rope yeah it's made up but it's still a good idea Yeah even though it is made up subjectively by social do you ever feel like you should just because the universe created you made you exist so now you feel like you owe it to yourself to sort of just live live out what you can I never asked to come from before from this earth well no see we have the same so we have shed and I and I'm sure a lot of us have the same basic principle where we agree which is life is technically meaningless that there is no great grand plan and I agree with that statement that there is actually no meaning so we both agree there the difference though is that for Shad it's like well if there's

no meaning, then the most efficient thing to do is just end it. Then, you know, that's essentially the most graceful and efficient thing you could do. For me, it's like, well, I do exist. There is no meaning, but if there is no meaning, who cares? That means I should cherish this existence even more while I have it, and then when I die, it's gone, but I am here. My life has meaning. I'm here to make everybody else feel awkward before they die. It's good. Cori, what do you think? You're meaning of life is personally? What do you look for? My personal meaning.

My own personal meaning is my own personal goal. So my own personal goal in life is to do something that I legitimately think I can look back at it all times. I'm like, yeah, I'm glad I made that. There is no all time. Right. Chad will argue that when you die, it

will be gone, so it doesn't even matter what you achieve. That's why I said it's my own personal goal. That is my... My area, what I enjoy, is completely between me. not hoping in the long scheme of things that people will really make thing I don't want to die and then have people be like oh remember that great thing you did because I know it'll just become like a you know like a thing people will remember

not to sound really rude but like you know Michael Jackson was a really good I'm not comparing myself to Michael Jackson but no he was a really good singer but like he was also the butt of a lot of jokes and then when he died a lot of people were remembering him of a lot of kids for being the butt of a lot of jokes and also he's a good singer but he's probably done a lot more stuff to him, but people just remember those one thing. Right, but even humanity one day will be wiped off the planet.

All the servers that hold our information in our cartoons, that will all be gone one day. Which I basically would like to for my lifetime create everything I want. Don't fucking, don't worry about little petty shit. Like, don't let little things bother you or you're never going to get fucking anything done.

If all you do is focus on stupid people doing stupid things that don't go anywhere, then you're not going to fucking go anywhere. So, You don't wait for handouts. You don't sit around hoping that you're gonna fucking become famous. You actually have to be famous and become famous by doing famous things. I think I think Shad, you're like the just the classic like chaotic neutral character. That's it. You know when you're putting like if you had to put labels on it. If you had to be a nerd and you had to pick a Dungeons and Dragons class. But they have really fucking they're valid if you really want. The alignments. The alignments are valid. But like you know you can argue

that they're equally as valid of like horoscopes or whatever, but like actually, no, that people are in one of those categories as far as I know, like as far as I could tell. No, it's true. I mean, well, it's supposed to define characteristics. You bring up things like being famous as if they're like important. Or like you bring up all these things that like social views

would make you think are important, but they're not really important. It's like when people play a fucking game and they get mad at the game, if they play poker and you get mad that they lose. But it's like, it doesn't matter when they're done. Like it's like, it was just, just a game. They looked back at it and it didn't matter. It just got mad because they were weak. They were stupid. And people get upset about life because of the same reason. It won't matter anymore.

It's like you fucking just play along. I may have already told this story, but it reminds me. The whole discussion reminds me of the Julius Caesar when he went out. He was like after he had conquered whatever the fuck it was and he was with a servant. You know, back in the day the Caesars, they were considered like, you know, ordained by the gods. So they were, they're, you know, next closest thing. kind of a medium between humanity and the gods. And so Julie Caesar goes out with a servant and he sees a statue of Alexander the Great. And he goes up to the statue and then he just falls to his knees. And the servant is absolutely convinced the sky is going to, you know, just rain meteors

and the earth is going to split because it's like what the fuck is happening. Caesar is on his knees crying. Like just could not believe it. And then I don't know if the, I mean, this is just a story. So who knows how it really went. but then apparently Caesar says I will never be as great as this man because he would never be able to conquer

as much as Alexander the Great he would never be as famous or well known as Alexander the Great but he was still fucking Julius Caesar but it's the idea of like ambition can be such a downfall having the name Alexander the Great is kind of hard to live up to you know yeah but it's the idea I think that you know if your goal is to be rich you will never be rich enough if your goal is to be famous you will never be

famous enough because there will always be people with more money and there will always be people who are more famous than you exactly the moment that's your goal you have failed that's why you set goals within your limit it's like you set it at the time and you work for those things that you want to work for you well if your goal is always to become better than who you are then I think that's a great goal always be better than so previous so we not even set goals just work as hard as you can and just sort of see what takes us for sure why you know that wouldn't even have to be necessary. That is like such a, I don't know, like that, that, that's a catch-22, because it's like you can either sit around and not do anything and inevitably die or you can actually

do something and die. It doesn't matter. Are you still getting to the same destination? You know why I'm still alive? Why should? As gay as it sounds, it's because of love and because I love. Are you gay? No, no, I can just like, I thought you say, as gay as it sounds, I'm in love. No, like, as like, as like, cliche it sounds, you know, like, it's because- because of love because I love things. And there's different kinds of loves. Like, and when you then when you love something, you want to, like you find life in that. Yeah. And that keeps you going. Like there's different kinds of love. There's like the evil kind that is just like animalistic lust and there's like the kind of love like as like a, like a guy likes a good steak. You know,

what if you love money? And that is, that's another kind of love adoration and fame. I think it's the kind of love to be. Everybody loves money and everybody loves fame. Everybody wants to be famous and Everybody wants to be rich, but people said, you know, I don't know if I want to be. I disagree. Everybody wants money for things that they want. Like, is there something you want, you want money for it? At the time, you're like, that would be nice.

No, yeah, it's not. But some people make it their main goal. Everybody, like, that's what I mean. Everybody wants it, but it doesn't mean you're going to get it. I think everybody's aware of the value of money. I'm not, though. I pay, like, too much for shit. I legitimately want money for things I want at the time.

Like, man, I wish I had a new computer and I wish I had the money to go back. I would like to be in a situation where I was never want for money. Where, like, I need, like, you know, if I got in a hospital, if I went to the emergency room, and now I'm fucking broke, you know what I mean? Like, that's about as much money as I feel like I would need is to have always enough. But you see, you always need it because there's always things you need, and you always want to make stuff and then you want people like friends and stuff. You could just constantly drop everything into, like, this one area.

I don't know. money-wise, I mean, I'm not, except for when, you know, I would love to be able to take people out for dinner all the time. You know what I mean? But, like, as far as things that I want, like, I don't want. If I had all the money in the world, I would not buy a fancy car. I would not buy a plane. I would not buy any of these things.

I mean, I've had chunks of change at times, and even then, it was like, great. Now I can afford this antique. That's not what I'm saying. I'm not saying, like, everybody wants all the money. Everybody wants to be rich. Everyone wants to be. They just, everybody wants money for things that they want at the time. Yes.

It's just things that people want. People, that's just how people... Oh, we need this stuff because this is what our fucking society was built on. We were built on money and fucking wealth and who you know. Well, no, I think the media definitely bashes it into everyone's heads that you want to be famous. That you want to have attention. Speaking of... Speaking of being famous.

Me and Jeff were talking about something. This is a segue by the way. About how famous you guys are? No. We were talking about movie remakes. We were talking about the future of what movies. movies are going to be like, I said that the next series that's going to be remade is back to the future. And what I said was, Marty is going to be replaced with a girl. And I said the professor,

or the guy, he's going to be black. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And they're going to go back in time. The bad guy would be super, either he'd be super racist or either super intolerant. We would say Biff would continue to be an angry white man. Of course. And angrier and meaner than before. Yes. And whiter. Yeah. Though Biff was pretty fucking white in those men. movies. He was about the evening. Yeah, he was like an erian as fuck. Yeah, he was arian as fuck. His green track suit. So that's what I said. That's what I said about

Back to the Future, but I was curious. Are you saying this like out of the wake of the new Ghostbusters? No, I'm saying it in the wake of like how everybody like to be progressive. Yeah. Like being progressive. Like people now? Yeah. It's interesting how people feel like in order to be progressive, they have to rewrite history. They have to like take all the old shit

we had and change it. So rather than just appreciate for what it is and come up with something new You fucking idealist soul-sucking jerk-offs in fucking Hollywood. I would be all for it. I'd be all for Back to the Future with a girl and a black professor. But I would know the only reason it would exist is for that reason. And that would really taint it.

See, if they made a time-traveling movie or something similar, and they did have, they just happened to have like a black doctor and a female protagonist, fine, not a thing. But they have to go. It's the idea that they're going back and they are re- they're literally trying to erase what was because it's not okay in order for it to be pertinent and or valuable today

you have to rewrite it that bothers me well why does it bother you like it doesn't even why do you even care about movies like why do you even care about a new back to the future like I think well no it doesn't look I couldn't care less if they would make hypocrisy bothers me and I think that the very people who are trying to be socially conscious about things I think by them doing that, I think they're being

fucking hypocrites and bigots themselves. By saying that, well, whatever you created, that wasn't okay. You fucking white people and your, you know, whatever. That they're saying they know better. That hypocrisy that bothers me. Maybe it's just an attempt on trying to be different so it wouldn't be

compared as much. But then if you wanted that, just make a new movie. Don't make it back to the future. They're doing that all the time. The remand. Then we're talking about remakes. We're talking about movies specifically. Not Hollywood in general. No, no, no, no, no, no. Just remakes.

We're talking about, like, the new Evil Dead had that, it was, like, very pointless. I think that looks good. You know, it looks great. It feels great, but there's no reason. There is no reason to remake Evil Dead. There's no reason. It's not a remake, it's a series. Yeah, yeah.

No, they did do. No, no. Oh, you're talking about something. Well, you're talking about Evil Dead. With the girl. Not Evil Day, too. No. They redid the movie.

The New Evil Dead with the girl. And it didn't have Bruce Campbell. He was a producer. He's talking about the new series. Not the series. Not the series. The series actually looks very great. They redid the Evil Dead movie.

I believe Sam Remy and Bruce Campbell were both producers of it. What the fuck? So they weren't in it. Wasn't Evil Dead 2 a remake of the first one anyway? Yes. So, and then they made a remake again? Yes. Oh, okay.

Now I follow, but that's weird. Whatever, dude. Texas Chainsaw has like 18 remakes. Jeff, I've been meaning to ask you something. Of course. You've seen so many movies and you're like a movie guy. Why do you even? still care about movies. How can you bring yourself to care about it?

There's things you see in a movie. Why do I bring, how can I bring myself to care about movies? Yeah, like when you see like, um, Avengers 2, how can you even see like, I want to see that? How it's like, oh, fuck this. I can't, I couldn't care of less. I enjoy the, uh, I enjoy movies more than say video games, the fact that they're more passive entertainment. I can just sit back, relax. I like this, I like, you know, I don't just built into my human DNA, but you know, I like this, a nice story. But do you mind hearing the same story again? Exactly.

Do you? You mean literally the same movie or you mean... Well, Shad believes that many movies are literally just all the same. Why do you keep playing Call of Duty? I don't. I haven't played it until long, but I've enjoyed it at the time, but I don't keep playing shooters. Yeah, all shooters are the same.

I'm playing, I'm different. They're the same controls. No, they're not. You know, and I must... And I must... And I must... And I do it made. I do admit, there's been plenty of games I've, like, started recently, and I just thought to myself, why am I even playing this?

And I never played them again. It's like, like, Dark Souls. I started playing it. It's like, this is fun. But then it's like, eventually I kind of thought, like, why am I playing this? Like, why am I even bothering with this? You actually got into DarkS? Yeah, I really got into it.

But I was like, why am I playing this? Because it's just a waste of time. You don't need to understand something. I complain. I'm negative. I complain about things because I care. Yeah, I know that. I like being on.

I know that. I like being alive and complaining because I care too much. There. Why do you keep playing Team Fortress? Yeah, you shoot me in here. Yeah, because I still find value in it. Eventually, that will cease. I admit, eventually that will cease.

How many matches? How many T.F2 matches have you played? Probably quite a bit since it came out. Just give me a rough number. Do you think it's 100? More than that. Like, maybe a thousand? More than that.

Maybe about a thousand. You know, you have done, you have played, game a thousand times. But isn't that beautiful and something can capture your attention for that long? And yet you're the same person who says how could you possibly watch these Hollywood movies they are all the same? Mick, I've played it. Hold on, hold on. That is not Lean, Team Fortress 2 is not linear entertainment. It's sport. It's a battle of the wits, a battle of reflexes. Are you telling me that out of that thousand, every single one of these things is like just this amazing. Not everyone, but every now and one will be and that will make your day.

You tell me how this glorified point and click game is better than like a whole story. I know listen to this guy. This is your glory. Click, click, click. Oh, Jeff, you've done it now, Jeff. This is so deep. Click, click, click. Oh, wow.

I killed the guy. That's just pure ignorance. Oh, wait. Let me just straight. Left a little. Let me strafe left. Click. He's dead.

That's pure ignorance. That is. I know. You know. You're ignorant. I haven't seen any of the Avengers. Hold on. Why do you keep bringing up?

I didn't even like the Avengers too. Why didn't you bring that up? They're like really big movies. Let me watch a movie. Click. Alright, that was good. Yeah, let me watch a movie. Oh, happy end. Haven't seen this before. Oh, look.

Oh, the hero. Oh, what an interesting movie. Oh, I shot a guy. He died. What an interesting shot. I haven't seen a thousand times before. Time to respawn. Another head shot.

Another CG explosion. Whoa. Okay, you know what's funny though? Is that within the world of Team Fortress, right? There are a limited amount of assets. There's a limited amount of animations, characters, movesets, weapons.

So is there in real life? Sure. But I will say that the variety that you can see in other mediums is much greater than any single game. Well, I never, I don't even have that. Because here's the thing. A thousand matches.

I'm saying asset-wise. I'm not saying, no, no, no, no. I'm not saying scenario one. Here's the thing about a game and here's the thing about a movie. A movie, it's a movie's great. Because, you know, you can really get in

invested in a movie, but the movie will always be the same. Sometimes the movie will be different, you'll catch new things, which will make the whole movie enjoyable again. But when you have a game, and you have a game like TF2, which has tons of different weapons, which all do different things and give you a different experience each time, it's like playing a different game every time. Yeah, but you're playing a bunch of Sonic Hedgehog fans for probably on it. That's also not sure.

Wait a minute, wait a minute. So what's it, why? Let's say, why TV2 rather than Call of Duty, though? Let's say you... Because Team 4th is way more intelligent than Call of Duty. admit that. And T-forters 2 is infinitely more intelligent. He likes college. Comparing in movies does not seem like a stupid. Listen.

Waste of time. Listen, video games are better than movies. Wrong. I agree with that. Video games are better than movie. I'd rather play a fucking E.T for Atari 3200. Are you saying the fucking watch routine? That movie sucks.

You see the very nature of it being interactive makes it better than movie. I know. Not to interactive. I think non-linear entertainment is better than linear entertainment. So you like, so you think a game, like a board game, like shoots and ladders, is better than the movie aliens. That's your point. That's your point. That's your point. It's not entertaining. It's an interactive...

Non-linear. What about a game of checkers? I could roll the dice. I could move three spaces or six spaces. There's still a lot of games that fucking suck, but it just mean like the best of both worlds, the best of video games would win. So would you see the ultimate, the ultimate hybrid? Let's say, do you ever see that movie with Gerard Butler where he's like in the game? the gamer, gamer. Gamer. That is fucking gay. Hold on, hold on.

Why? Because, like, it's a dumb action movie. Like, it's a fuck this movie. Shed, get off your pedestal for one second and open your ears. I wasn't saying the movie. I'm saying the premise of the movie. The idea that you could actually be in a game. Like, making the decisions.

Well, Shadden against the Oculus Rift, which is something that's... Why are you against the Oculus Rift? Because I think it's gimmicky. Yes, see, that's something that... So it's not an immersion thing because it's like that I think it makes more emotional. What if there was a movie? Let's say there's a movie. Name a movie you actually like.

The Godfather? Great. So imagine there's a movie like The Godfather. There's a headset you put on. And all the characters still exist in this world. It is a game, but it is also a movie where you could just sit back and kind of watch everybody. Or you can interact completely with these things. There's no reason for that to exist.

Like, The Godfather is a good piece of art on its own. Jesus Christ! There doesn't need to be. Okay. Then it's not the godf-shut the fuck, fine. It's not the godfather. It's another random, uh, interactive movie Mafia X. Okay?

It is a mafia world. It is just like a game, except you don't use a controller. You are actually in it. And what is it, what is it, what is that? Is that, do you think that's better than just where you sit with a controller? No, yeah, yes, he does. That's, that's my point. No, he hasn't answered.

What is he's going to go up with some contrarial response? What did it? And you have, you can see it from. different perspectives. What is this? Like, what is, what is, what is, what is, what is so fucking simple? Hypothetical shit come from. This isn't hypothetical.

In the world where this exists. What I'm saying is, is the future of entertainment being, instead of watching movies, they are now fully interactive. Like, you are literally walking through the halls of this thing. You're, you're describing the wet dreams of game designers. That doesn't mean it's, it's reality. Shad, do you know what games were before you were born when I was a kid? I watched the angry video and you're telling me.

You're telling me that you don't think in 20 years they're not going to have something almost like virtually embedding yourself in a world. Yes. You do not think they are? You're close-minded, my friend. You're ignorant. I don't think 20 years. You have no idea of the progress they've made. The fact that the Oculus Direct is where it is today, today, in 20 years.

In 20 years? Dude, I remember using a fucking cassette tape. Yeah, but Shad's point is, have you, you remember when 3D movies were a thing? Shed doesn't know anything. Chad, what, Chad, Chad and his mom, you know, he played Call Duty 1. Now he's up to Call Duty 4 or whatever. That's all he knows. My point, Shad, was that you were saying of the two worlds that games were better.

My idea is if in the future they were able to meld them, does that seem like something that would be cool? Instead, it became some weird thing where it was like, oh, you're hypithetical bullshit, what the fuck is that? The Gerard Butler sucks. Just like... I never said that. I never said that.

You're straw manning me as they said. Like you're making me say things I didn't. Make, if it's any consolation, okay? It's such an easy question. Would you like to be in an interactive movie? The end. No, he doesn't like that. If it's any consolation, Oculation, OculeousRiff gives me motion sickness.

Thank you, thank you. I don't know. It would give me motion sickness too. I get motion sick very easily. It's too much. Not only that, but my eyesight's really bad, so I'd have to wear glasses. And I don't think, I honestly don't think technology

is up to a point where glasses and an Oculus rink. No, and I think it will be, and I think it will be immersive, and I think it'll be cool, but it won't be for everyone. And Chad doesn't make it. No, the reason why I brought it up was it would be a movie that was non-linear, because essentially you could make anything happen in this movie. Why does it have to be a movie? Like, they tried movies that are non-linear.

Take the word movie out of it. It is an interactive game world that happens to have a story. You look at so many of the fucking games that people play, it is like a movie. Yeah, yeah. That's my problem. with gaming industry that's why a lot of modern games are like moving in the wrong direction because they are just cheap imitations of interactive movies do you think

it's bad or good the call of duty has like cutscenes I think it's bad great so you think all games should have no story and just be pure at all that's why he likes fallout dude no no wait a lot you make your own story yes yeah that's very sure but that's exactly what I was talking about about interactive fucking movies but interaction that's exactly what I'm talking about it's not it's not it's not you're saying interactive movies have their own sense That's like heavy range. That's an interesting. Yeah, but Fallout does too.

Fallout has a fucking script. Characters say shit. People recorded the line. You're saying this Mafia movie or whatever? No movie. Just story interactive, immersion nonlinear. Do you want to play? So you're asking if he wants to play Fallout? I don't want to play it anymore. Fuck your game.

Fuck this thing. I walk in there and they're like, it's a fucking immersion where you can do whatever you want. And I'm like, you know what I thought you was a walk away. If I thought you was a character that, that game I'd like a subway. Just fucking without your dick, you'd jerk off and then turn it off. That's what I would do.

I would go next door and start jerking off on people because I'm in a movie, I can do what I want, I can fucking slap anybody, and slap to the game in about 20 years. That you could do that. You could. Then what's the point of it being a movie? That's my point.

Fine, take the word movie out of it. Yeah, look, why do we even use the word movie? Because it's a game. Because what I'm saying, by movie, all I meant was that it had a storyline, you don't have to follow it, you can change that storyline, just like Fallout, has a storyline but you're right that's not a movie so we'll take out the movie part

and just say interactive immersive entertainment then it's a completely new describing like the wet dreams of game designers of course I'd want to play that and great that was the answer okay it's a completely new thing it's like it's like it's no longer a game it's no longer a movie that's what I'm saying it's like it's a good movie it's a good movie it's a good movie it's a good movie if it's interactive though I'd still argue that's still a game it's not though Because you can have interactive movies. Remember back then when you had like...

And people would call those games, though, where you like click left to see or click right to see the next scene? But it's not a game, it's an interactive movie. I just want to play a Final Fantasy game with Niles, the main character, that's what I want. You already looks like one of them. You said Murray means King of the Sea? So anyway... That actually works because, like, if they have squall and storm or whatever cloud. No, King of the Sea, like all the water references.

Getting back on topic. So Back to the Future was what... Yes. was the movie remake I said, what do you guys think? What do we think of that? The next big hit, the next big remake. Well, they're doing Ghostbusters already.

I think... Which, again, like, you know, I'm all for a whole... No, no, no, that's actually a really great question. But what upsets me is the fact that it has to be that. What if it's Conan? What if it's Conan with that M.M.A. Didn't they try doing Conan? No, but that's...

Ronda Rosalie. Hercules, yeah. Well, no, that Hercules movie had the Rock, and clearly he was not the... Aryan white Hercules that people are used to. I legitimately think in the next 10 years they'll make a new Lord of the Rings movie series. Oh, really?

So successful. You think they would do that? Dude, that series is 15 years old. I'm actually surprised that they made The Hobbit three movies, but they made the whole Lord of the Rings into fucking three movies. Yeah, exactly.

What about Harry Potter? You think they had relaunch Harry Potter again? No, as a show, as a show, maybe as a show, Hogwarts Academy. Yeah, and then it's just like... They already are. I think they will. Well, they're creating a series.

That takes place after it. Oh, really? Yeah. That would be interesting. Oh, that, uh, the monsters and where the monsters are, yeah. Well, I mean, they do that, like, they did that with, like, like, Yu-Gi-O and shit. Like, they had, like, the Yu-Gio Trading Card Academy. Well, they can't do Terminator because they keep doing Terminators, and they've stayed very true to the past.

Well, they've already done Terminator. I know, but they keep redoing and they keep... And the new one is, like, that's... But they referenced the first one. I know. They made it so perfect, except they made the three punks have different haircuts at the start. Did you see that? Everything was so perfect in the new Terminator, like, almost,

remake, but they made the three punks at the beginning of Terminator one, in the new one, have different haircuts. It's weird. It was stupid. Like, they could have, they were already so close. They were so close, but they just gave them different haircuts. What would they remake? What would they remake? What was their superhero?

Tango and Cash with females. Tango and Cash? It's a good idea. What about goblins? What was it really... What was a really good 80s movie? Gremlins. Yeah, Gremlins. What was a really popular, good 80s movie? That's Gremlins. They're going to remake

Grandkids. That was popular. That's a... Bill and Ted. Make it really gross. Females? No, Bill and Ted would be... It would be with an Asian and an Arab.

It would be... It would be... That's Harold and Cuman. Yeah, no, yeah. It would be fucking Harold and Kumar. It would be excellent adventure. Speaking of the mafia movies, like you were so obsessed about

for some reason, what about the Godfather series? I don't think they would. You think they would dare do that? I don't know if they would touch... I don't think they would. They might be ruthless No, no, no, they would be murdered

The first godfather The actual mobsters Hold that movie as lore They would go and murder someone Because they reference that movie That's actually true That movie changed the whole mob Because they actually started changing their whole

Even gangsters Even like even like you know Without that sopranos wouldn't exist Yeah maybe those would get me killed But I fucking hate everything to do with Italian gangster Listen I love the Supranos Listen, Godfather...

All these ignorant spaghetti slurping jackass. The godfathers can come out. They're gonna come out. Oh, mama-mia. Whatever. Who cares? The godfather's gonna be fucking PG-13. It's gonna be Pee-Wee Herman.

They're gonna, like, fucking stab somebody and a shadow in the background is gonna swing his hands around. That's actually a really good question, though. What would be the next big remake? Do you think they're ever gonna make like classic Disney movies like Lion King as like 3D?

Lion King's already a TV show Disney. Oh, yeah? I was going to say Indiana Jones, but they made one so recently. That's what I was thinking. I don't think they were... It was almost 10 years ago.

If anything, they would possibly... That one could possibly be like Indiana Jones had like a niece. There was a room and they wanted to make that Chris Pratt character of Indiana Jones. He made a decent Indiana Jones, to be honest. I think they'd stick with a white guy for him.

Yeah. Because it's such a white name to Indiana. That's like such a fucking... Yeah, but it could be a girl too. What about E.T.? Yeah. remake of ET Yeah

J.J. Abrams Because E.T. The movie as Corey said, sucked. Fuck. Fucked. Fucking. When I was young,

I was like, fuck this movie. J.J. Abrams remaking E.T. Nobody wants your fucking alien. I still think the main character

would be white, but I think possibly has like black best friend. Absolutely. No, the main character's black and the alien's white. When he dies,

he turns. He turns black. He turns black. You know, when he turns black and then the black kid turns white. Flight of the Navigator with a black kid. Flight of the... No, no. The Neverending Story. They would totally remake the Never Ending Story. I don't think they would.

Because the book, like, they already butchered the books so much with that movie. Mary Poppins. No, I mean like a remake of it. Like, remake the first one, completely. Knock out the sequence. Yeah, Mary Poppins is... Hold on. Mary Poppins remade with Jennifer Lopez in Manhattan.

They're not gonna remake Mary Poppins. They're not gonna remake Mary Poppon. They will make... They did that Disney movie with fucking Tom Hanks. Yeah, so, yeah. And it had, it was the premises... Oh, yeah. That's great, that's great.

A remake of Big with a black kid who... Housie black cocking. Hold on, hold on. No, he's a black kid who... What about it in... Jayden Smith? He then becomes Jaden Smith, grows up. He then is turned into Will Smith.

Sounds like a bad man. Who then is a famous... It gets into the... He's a famous rapper, but all of his lyrics are based off of like childhood memories and stuff like that. And they call the movie Negg instead of fake. He's also an Emerald Guru. Shads half black, he can say that. He's also an Emerald Guru.

So he cures people with fucking... What's the video game at the beginning? He can't solve. It was like a Kings Questie thing. You know, like, Bomb Tunes, we made that. He actually made an interactive version of that game. Oh, really? What?

That's cool. He actually made that. He remade that game in an actual real game. Holy shit. Did he like it that much? Yeah, it's totally convincing. But yeah, you have to pretty much do exactly what he does in the movie. But anyway, yeah.

Really? They could, they never need to remake any of the alien movies. You said Flight of the Navigator, but, I mean, like, I think they could pull off a new flight of me. But it's like nobody, like, I mean, like, I know I'm saying this, but that movie had one version of it. And though people liked it, I don't know if it really. But that's what I'm saying. It's like fairly well known, but it's also a little under the radar. And the premise, I think, is interesting enough that it could be remade.

They could literally take the very basic framework. Yeah, because you could remake it to any town, any person. The idea that came going in the future. Right, exactly. Don't you think the kind of robotic pilot is overdone? Like the full space odyssey, spaceship is overdone? I don't know. We just saw it in interstellar.

Yeah, it's kind of overdone. But I thought they did it good, though. They did it good, but it's like if you do that again, you'd get... What's the movie? with Hal 3000 or whatever? What's that? What's the movie with Hal 3,000? Space Odyssey.

They wouldn't. I don't think they'd redo it. I don't think they'll remake it. You know, I would say that they wouldn't remake any Kubrick movie, but I'm wrong. I don't know what? I would say that they would remake The Shining, but they already did because

Stephen King did, because he didn't like the original. You made a TV for a TV. Yeah, he made his own story. God, it was so fucking terrible. I don't care what, what, you know, NC on the DL says that. It fucking, I saw it. It fucking saw. Wait, the original?

No, the original? No, I like the original. The original, like, fucking scared me when I was little, but the one, the remake, the one that has, like, 14 episodes. Stephen King has this thing where he has to star, or not starred, but he has to be featured. A cameo. And, you know, like Stan Lee. Steve King, he's had, like, two or three, like, you know, good horror movies, but he's made a lot of really stupid fucking ones, too. Yeah.

The best ones that he, that people remember from him have never been, that he's never really been, like, directly involved, except for obviously the story, which is huge, but, like, being, like, there. Shawshank Redemption, Kubrick's Shining. What's that one with the big dog? Coojo? Yeah. I never saw. I did see it. I saw it.

Or it. Oh, yeah, it. But that was, like, it wasn't actually really fucking bad movie, if you look at it. It was kind of scary, though. As a kid, it was. It was really scary. Misery. You were great.

I like that movie. Misery is great. I've you seen. Misery is fantastic. That was great. That one's fantastic. Misery is one of his best, but I think it was like, when I was a kid, it scared me, but when I got older, it was fucking stupid.

Yeah, yeah, that's the problem. It's fucking stupid. And it's confusing. It's, like, it's nonsense. It's classic, like, inconsistent bullshit. It's like, magic horror. It's like a fucking spider and they use silver rocks. It's, it's, it never explained it.

It's, like, battery ass. I was, like, it's like, it's a battery ass. What was that come from? I was fucking hoping it was more than some alien spider. I was hoping he was actually just a fucking clown. But no. Corey, remember when they just spray battery acid on his face

and it fucking hurts him? Like, why? Why? Do clowns hate battery acid all of a sudden? Any one would hate battery acid, to be honest. No, but like everything else wouldn't hurt him, but battery asset. It's like, okay.

I mean, like, I guess like harm movies, like classic horror movies, you think they remake Hellraiser? Yeah. Well, I mean, they've made so many of them. Those, I think all horror movies, movies are really prime for remake because people don't want to well no yeah because I think people are and a reboot because I think that producers are really weary about horror movies in general so they're

like new ones especially so if they can find something that already has a little bit of traction then they'll remake it which is why I think we have like 10 there is like how many sequels of hellraiser already there's like seven or eight and then with the chainsaw of Texas the massacre. Yeah, the massacre. There's already been like three or four. Straight up remake. Not even just sequels or spin-offs.

Straight-up remake. Like Spider-Man. Like how many fucking Spider-Man won movies can you fucking remake? There's a new Friday 13th coming out. Again. Oh, yeah. I think Robert England is going to be just Freddie again. There's no reason.

Yeah, but people will eat it up. It's money. It's like a product. Well, it's like the next episode of a show. You know what I mean? Like, did they remake Chuckie? Yeah. I could have sworn.

They remade that? I was never a big Chucky guy. The first Chucky, they remade it. Yeah. I, you know, I started liking Chucky around Bride. Chuckie's Bride. Yeah.

That was a really funny movie. And then the seat of Chucky was actually... I might go back and watch some of the Chucky movies because it's been a long... I hate that dog. I never really liked the Chucky movies. He fucking sucks for the first three movies. I hate what he just looks like.

You got to give Chuckie's... He looks like when they go to the factory and he melts and shit. He doesn't even look like a broken or... weird garbage pale kid, he looks just like a garbage pale kid. Yeah. I always think that they had like little midgets running around like...

They should remake basket case. Oh yeah, the one with the monster to basket. Yeah. But keep the house. His half brother. Or reanimator. Oh yeah. I would be really curious to see... What is that? Is brain dead? Is that reanimator?

The reanimator is about the guy who got this goo and he like can just make corpse. come back to life. Yeah, it's not Lynch, it's the other, Kronenberg. Oh yeah, yeah. But it was a kind of clever, like, funny. They remade the thing. Yeah.

Several times, three times, I think. Oh, you know what? Have they remade the fly? No. Yes, they did. Did they? There's two versions of the film. Really?

The Goldblum one is the second one. Yes. Oh. The better one is the same case. The better one is the remake. Is the flyer, like, from like, the 30s or 40s? Yes. The thing is as well, it's from the 40s.

Do you think they would remake it? again, like a PG-13 version of the flies? Well, I would think people would have a problem with the PG-13 version, but I think they could remake the fly. I did like the fly a lot. I think Goldblum was great, but I do think they could remake it. The flies when were they going to Teleporter with the Fly? Yeah, and then he comes out.

Because you're already talking about your liking the remake, so you could potentially like another remake. Yes, and I really like the original fly. You know, like the original Frankenstein from the 40s, is a remake. Oh, and you know that. You know, I think it's going to happen. I think in the next few years, they're going to take a bunch of premises from movies in the years past, but

replace the antagonists with dinosaurs. It's not going to be horror movies, but with dinosaurs. That would be amazing. That would be great. Instead of killer clowns in our space, it's going to be killer dinosaurs from outer space. Nazi dinosaurs.

They set up a dinosaur theme park, but it's actually set up just with people. So the dinosaurs, they throw out their box with chains and take you to hell with a dinosaur. There's a bunch of different dinosaurs. So it's basically Jurassic Park, but the whole purpose is to actually lure people in and then murder them all. Is it weird that I think...

Is it weird that I think dinosaurs are kind of gay? Like, just like... Those are kind of gay. Like, it's like... That's your prerogative. Like, I'm not in a homosexual, but I think they're kind of lame. You think any other animals on this planet are kind of gay? No, I just think dinosaurs are like really like...

I guess they're not utilized to a point where I can be like, well, that's cool. Dinosaurs are cool. I'm upset they just don't portray them correctly. Yeah. I want, I guess I want more savage fucking like feathered animals that are actually like... I want to see, I want to see them, I want to see a CD version of them feathered because... That's what I'm saying. Is that an actual scientific fact?

Yeah, they became feathered recently. A lot of them, I'm, the problem is, like, with the new Jurassic Park movie, it's like, you see these dinosaurs, you're just like, I don't know, I just feel like I know what I'm going to see it. That's why I didn't go to see it, because I couldn't care less about the dinosaur movie. It sucks. You know, honestly, a lot of people grew up with Jurassic Park is a big part of their life. I never liked Jurassic Park. I saw it once, and I saw it once, and I saw it. hated the kids. I wanted their fucking raptors to eat the kids but never happened.

That's what everybody fucking wanted. Especially like the little girl. All the eight is a black guy. Everyone wanted the fucking raptors like rip into her stomach and all the kids would have been fucking clapping and cheering. That's something I didn't like about past movies is when they would introduce a key character and you were a kid and you were watching a movie and they would think oh it's relatable. Oh it's relatable to the kid but you still hate the fucking kid because he's so annoying. But you're a kid and you're like I hate this fagin. That fucking kid is a faginin. It ruined.

Jurassic Park movies was like a perfect example. A perfect example. We were watching it and these stupid assholes are shining flashlights in the fucking dinosaur's eyes and they're like, turn it off, I don't know how. Yeah, he's just like, I would have fucking did this. Yeah, you're the same age as them and you're like, you just fucking put your hand on it. You stupid bitch?

Like she knows how to hack a fucking national computer, but she doesn't know how to put her hand over the flag. Yeah, exactly. She can hack the fucking government database mainframe, but like she can't fucking. Those at the time where like hackers were really cool. Oh yeah, hack, and they're all girls too. And anytime they hack, it's never like the boring ass, like, Matrix-Seat.

No, it's like a bird over. Yeah. It's like 3D. You're like going into the server and have like, like, T-shaped people spinning around. Like they're like, I watched a movie once in the information. And it's like access granted and you see like all these locks and shit like graphics going everywhere. And this like eight-year-old hacks a helicopter to fall from the sky and she's like, yes.

They did that, do you ever see the movie hackers? They were the worst, that was the worst defense of that very thing. Every time they hack it to a computer, it's like a fucking 3D Polygon. There was one hacking movie I liked growing up. It was about like a bunch of college kids who were going to hack into their computers to change their grade. That's like a simple premise. I like that, though. Yeah, but they did it.

That's like war games. They basically, they hacked and they changed their grade. But because there was something going on where they were doing tests at the school, like the government, it was like some other bullshit. Like the CIA was already. like following the school because of some crime thing. And then these assholes were hacking to change their grades. So then now they were being stocked by CIA agents.

This sounds exactly like war games. It was the same premises, but it was like, it wasn't like two kids sitting in a room. It wasn't a girl and a guy. It was like a bunch of college kids because they were all like failure potheads. Do you guys ever see the, what was it called? Smiley?

Oh, I saw Smiley. Yeah, yeah. But they weren't the Skype movie. YouTube stars. Well, no, no. The Skype one was, oh, no, that was also Skype. Friend me. Yeah, that's the one. No, that's a different. That's a Skype one though, right?

Oh, that's a Facebook one, right? There's a Skype movie called Friendly. Friend me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With the killer, right? If you see him on Skype, then you die. Friendster me. Was the one with the smiley mask? I have never seen the trailer. Yeah, there was, Tobuscus was in it, too. All those YouTube people. They should make a YouTube channel where the people, he like murders him on his YouTube channel. It's called subscribe. And they died from real. Shit, son. Yeah, yeah, he's Hollywood.

Fucking vlog. And they would like die to kill them for real. Yeah, no, no, no, it should be called unsubscribe. I fucking hate. And it's like, if you unsubscribe from your channel, you die. But like, can't you help when you think about like movies to just feel like, fuck this? You know, like just to feel like, oh my god, I can't. Do you look forward to anything in life?

I look forward to a lot of things. Do you like milkshakes? Do you like cookies? Yes. Those, you know, they taste the same every time, almost. But I still enjoy them. Maybe eventually I seize too. But for the time being out.

being out. Don't you find enjoyment out of familiarity? Like I will rewatch like Big trouble in middle China. Like I will rewatch that movie even though I've seen it because it gave me a feeling and it had vision it had like imagery that I enjoy. I can I can see that in certain movies. My general thing on movies is more about like the the Hollywood like what you see on the surface. Like in general like I couldn't care less but when the movie starts to become interesting and thought-provoking that I like. That's why I like movies like The Godfather.

I think that's what actually got me to enjoy a pain and gain. Because at first glance, it was a very, like, oh, it's one of these movies. And then it quickly became not that movie. I agree. I took the chance and watched it, and I thought it wasn't that bad. So I told Samper about it. Yeah, that's why I watched it. Samper talking about Nightcrawler.

Nightcrawler was great. A new movie that is absolutely great. I didn't know anything about it when I put it. and I was instantly creeped up. Dude, that whole fucking dinner scene? Yeah. Are you blackmailing me? Yeah, yeah, he's like,

Yes? Maybe, maybe I am. Yeah, I'm blackmailing me. You are like, fuck. That was fucking good. Oh, and then I didn't see Southpaw, but I saw the trailer and I heard about that was Jake Gyllenhaal again.

Yeah, as well, yeah. But apparently he did an amazing job in a very subpar movie. He's a great fucking actor. That's a movie where they showed the whole thing in the trailer. Oh, really? Do you ever see

Between the Pines? Is it behind, between the Pines? It was Ryan Gosseling and Bradley Cooper? No, I haven't seen that. It's pretty cool. It sounded like a chick, a chick flick. Yeah, there are two fucking hotties, dude. Yeah, but there's not.

Who's cute or not? Who's cute or no? Oh, fucking did, dude. No, do you actually ever do that? Do you actually ever jack off to a movie even though it's just like acting and stuff? Um, wait, let me think. Did I ever jack off to...

Like, do you jack off to the acting? No, like, even though he like builds up scenarios in his mind and jacks off just from the imagery of the people. I think when I was a kid I jacked off to Michelle Piper's Catwoman. I jacked off to Sarah Michelle Geller from Buffy a few times. You are despicable people. Why? Because I think it's like your objectifying fucking actresses. Like enjoy-

Dude, I will- Jack your entire fucking existence on this planet subsists strictly on objectifying, Fictional famous characters Listen, I find it repulsive that you jerked off the heinous I had the weirdest fetishes when I was a kid but I'm actually very vanilla now It's so weird I know it's it's it's here's no I'm kind of vanilla No, I'm not that you know when I was a kid I like a portion of valley of the horses

Do you know what valley the horses is? It was the it was the sequel to the Claim of the Cave Bears is a book. Okay now I feel better about what I'm a fucking kid on an airplane reading the this book and I was like fucking 13. Nobody's vanilla. I'm not vanilla, but I like bust stuff, I like kind of dominating. I know it sounds really cool. Nobody's vanilla. Whatever.

There's no such thing as vanilla. I like being the one who's like, but whatever, okay, that's stupid. I get off to the Enterprise 1701A model. What is that even mean? Refurbished it in the Star Trek motion picture. It's got really weird. You know, people getting turned on by things is always a weird thing. Star Trek cars.

It goes from everything. What? animals, to fucking people in animal suits, to fucking feet, to dirty underware. Man, when I was a kid, I was like, when I was a kid, I got, the first time I ever got a boner was from, uh, was the scene where, like, Jafar was able to fucking control Princess Jasmine. I was like, I was like, oh man, he can make her like do whatever he wants. You're all the general. Shed, you know, you, I was like, Jafar can make fucking Princess Jasmine spread out.

Spread her asshole right now. And she wouldn't be able to do it nothing about. I love that as a kid. As a kid. Can you name one thing that actually turns you on? No. You know what I really like? I want you to be genuine.

One thing that turns you on. Doesn't have to be the weirdest thing. It's a normal thing. Save your breath. Sometimes when I just think about that there are people out there who they generally have a stream of love in them. That turns you on? There's good people out there.

That gives you a heart on. It gives me just a happy feeling. No. No, what makes your dick hard? One thing that makes your dick hard. Here, I'll name a bunch. Gang bangs, cum shots. Women with high...

Women with leather boots that reach past their kneecaps. I mean, I could go on. What's one thing that turns you on? Yeah, I don't... I just think it's a topic not worth discussing. Knee socks. It's a sick question. Absolutely not worth of discussing.

Sick enough to answer that. can't get an answer out of somebody. It's just not worth discussing. Listen. No fun. No fun here. I like a girl which she's willing to show her ankle. And, you know, she keeps it piecing. If she shows her hair.

Do you like a nice collarbone? She's like a little... A little bit of cleaves. Make has like the most like white fucking like interest. Like letter booths that go knee high. Gangbangs. Trades. Big black dicks.

You just say that. I have the most white interests? Yeah. How is it a white thing? It's like just like with like fucking white business man when they come home what they look on the computer Yeah, just to fucking teenage game like every fucking porn cover. It's like oh I'm yeah, I'm sure the black guys most yeah just like a fucking huge big black things yeah Yeah, they want to know something black guys hate gangbangs. They hate cum shots. They might Chinese people hate get wait aren't the Japanese in the huge fucking gang bangs. Don't the weird don't be racist. Don't put the Chinese

I saw a video Kaki is a fucking phrase specifically for a whole group of Japanese dudes to come on a fucking girl's face. Japanese people are into humiliation. They're not into that kind of... Oh, humiliation. Yeah. I hate humiliation. Well, that's what they're really... Is that a white thing or is that... No, that's not...

What race is that go to? Chapese. Humiliation porn. Which race do you attribute that one to? Japanese. The French. I get humiliation. That's one that I do get. No, what I just meant like your interest, they're like... What on the other side?

What you think porn would be? be like. You know, like, that's like the surface of porn. I think a lot of it comes from the surrounding you want to like. That's not true at all. Society doesn't want me to like any of those things. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. Since you're an expert on pornography. I'm not. I think you are. Where do you draw the line? What do you say you are then? Hold on. I know my way around the porno-porn.

If you don't think you do, if what you do is not pornography, what do you do? It's art. I draw. What would you find more attractive? And in whatever sense you want to consider it. A cat or a seven-year-old girl. Oh, for fuck a second. They're just the dumbest question I've ever heard.

Well, what's the cat doing? What's the cat doing? Fingering itself. I don't know. Kid looking at some? They're both fingering themselves. I'm not sexually interested in felines are minors. No felines or minors.

No, I'm a felines. Okay, well that's good. Listen. Listen, there is a difference between what you enjoy in art and what you enjoy in real life. Yeah. Next, make it sound of mind. That is so true. Listen, okay, you know, there's certain things like, because it's like people think like, oh, because you, if you do this stuff, that means you're totally into real life. For instance.

I agree. And that's how, like, a lot of artists do that, too. I understand. That's what people don't understand. No, I'm just saying this as a generalization. I know you guys are joking, but in generalization, people are like, oh, because you like this, therefore you're into this. Yeah. Like, no, I absolutely fucking hate this, but I like this in the art form, because I can shape this exactly how I want it.

That's so fucking true, because any time I tell people I like hentai art, they always go, oh, bullshit, you're just jack off to it. But I'm like, no, I think the art is actually really fucking good. You don't get turned on, you just find it beautiful. I find it really good. I swear to God, that's, I swear to God. There's a dude with like a jizz stream frozen in the air. If it looks like a really, if it looks like a really cool ice cube, I'd be like, that's cool. I've seen beautiful, hyper-realistic looking jist streams that I've legitimately...

Yeah. You felt that. Realism doesn't matter. No, but Chadden had mentioned before that he didn't... That he wasn't a fan of people murdering with guns. That he thought that was cheap and lame. And yet, you know, but he thinks guns and games are cool. Yeah, but in real life, guns are fucking lame.

I agree. I agree. No, no, no. I absolutely agree. And I think that that distinction is really key. I think that's a really great distinction to make. and I think a lot of people, I don't know why they always just associate, like, oh, if you create something, you must be that thing. It's always.

It's a generalization. Well, I think it's also like a kind of synchronism. Like, it's hard for them to ever associate, like, oh, you could ever make something that isn't exactly what you think all the time. It's like category, categorization. I know I'm saying all these dumb words. But it's like when people say, like, oh, like there's an artist who does nothing but gay art. They must be gay. Right.

They're completely straight. yet they think they're gay. And then there's some people who do nothing but straight art, and they're super gay. But since they do straight out, they're like, oh, these people are, you know, straight. And it's like, and if you do a little bit of it, you're either by. But it's like, you have to be put in a category. But it's like, well, how can you do that if you don't understand it? It's like, well, there's females who draw and create like movies, scripts or comic characters that are male.

And there are males who create, you know, female characters. You don't have to be that thing in order to, you know, make a thing about that thing. People don't understand, and that's what's really like... And yet you never see a problem when someone makes like something violent. You never see someone accusing them of committing homicide. Yeah, you never see that. Yeah, someone who makes a violent game, they're not going to them and we're like, you must murder people regularly.

And that's because of centuries of Christianity. Sure. They repress sexuality so far that it is constantly on our brain. Exactly. And that's the difference between naked... And you're always looking for a finger to point when it comes to sexuality. With violence, like occasionally, like there's a school shooting. They're like, oh, they were watching this movie.

or something. Christianity promotes violence. Well, that's, I mean, yeah, that's actually true. I mean, in terms of, I mean, any religion does to encourage violence against the ones that are not part of your clan. Right. Buddhism, I think, is about as close as you get to not having that. But Buddhism is one of the, I think, the only atheistic religion. Yeah, it's less

of a religion and more of a... I really like that religion. Yes, yeah. I really like that religion. Yeah, it's an atheistic religion where they don't have a deity. I thought that Buddha was the deity, though. No, that's like one of their prophets. He's the guy who did it. Yeah.

He's the epitome of what you want to achieve. But he's not God. He's not God. Oh, that's even more interesting. I think my stepdad's Buddhist. Buddhist is a good religion. I like that one. That's about as close as I get to religion just because I was raising a Buddhist house.

Because my dad, I stepdad, he meditates all the fucking time. Meditation works. I didn't think it worked, and then I moved in with a hippie about two years ago. And I moved in with this hippie. And he goes, all right, so I'm going to put this video on YouTube and just get into it. So I sat down. I was like, this is not going to work. I sat down, and we were doing something called Kundalini.

It was actually called Kundalini, and it was like, the guy goes, kept going, young Kundalini. I was like, this is bullshit. And then I was like, for some reason. My mom says that Kunalini is like a fucking gay way to hell. You say, Coonelini, you're saying all the words are saying to open up the door to your fucking bedroom. But meditation. All those fucking words that was hanging on and you're creating.

This guy that I live with him appears in your living room and he just comes out. Satan is a, waiting he's like oh keep singing motherfucker he was like I love him and all but he he was a bit fucking nuts like he wanted he thought his life goal was to fight a giant and to beat a giant that's usually what kundalini singers yeah so yeah but he was he's a great guy though yeah I think the idea of like you know they talk about meditation but I think we all find different forms of meditation you know meditation is a way to clear your mind in order to kind of like reflect on yourself and to be able to see things sleep is a form of meditation sleep is

definitely one of those and I also do think I honestly think that like you know for me like sometimes it's doing the dishes like when I do the dishes I literally go into a zone some people when they play games sometimes when they doodle sometimes when they even if they put on videos in the background all of a sudden it's like that sound or whatever it is that they familiar movie that yeah I think it's the familiarity of a repetition that something is now happening that you're used to that you can kind of like that's blocking that's like a filter to like all the other things. It's like a wall around you

and now you can just do your thing and you can think about, you can think. And I think whether that's working out or watching videos or music or meditating and humming or whatever, you find a way to put a wall around you so you can just spend time with your own thoughts.

For me, it's more like a thing where it's like I can't have something where like lots of jump cuts very loud. It has to be almost like, even if there's like some of that, it has to be like, because there's like a few reviewers I really enjoy and I've watched her stuff like hundreds of fucking times

I always like rewatch your stuff because like even if they do some things that bother me I'm just so fucking used to how they sound that hearing them is kind of like you know I've just like zone out of the carcans like uh... Irid gamer yeah oh totally old Irate gamer definitely

fucking dad humor I read gamer listen listen I will say the nuance Iry gamer is getting on my fucking nerd But old, every Gamer, he was just so charming. Like, he was innocent. He's trying to make his start. He's like, look at me, I'm trying to get out there.

Like, he's just putting all this effort. And now he's just like... But he was always a cornball. Dude, he's totally a dad now. So his daddy humor really stems from being a fucking unfunny dad. Like, he is a dad. He's a dad. He's a dad. So his dad jokes are legitimate.

It's like familiarity lulls you into a safety, like a mother's voice with due to a baby. Yeah. And it's not even like you're listening to the word. anymore. You're just in that zone. You're glad to be there. Yeah. To be with him. Like this womb of their

of their voice. It really is. Like, when there's something that you can re-listen to you over and over and over, but it's like it never really bothers you. You can just start it over again. I have a question, Chad. You follow Angry Video Game here.

Yes. Or you've been a long time ago. I still do. I was watching. I was watching his fucking, like, not till I'm. Are you a long time of him? Yeah, absolutely. So do you guys, I'm curious. Do you guys know? notice a change in his sense of humor after he had a kid. Absolutely. And it's the same thing.

Like you... Like the video after? Or just over time? I don't know when he's actually had a kid but it started at very, very obvious. When interesting. Here's a question. If somebody here, if the cops found child pornography on somebody's computer here, theoretically, theoretically. Would everybody else still be friends of that person? Would we shun them? How are you? How are you? We shun them forever. How young though? Well, here's the thing.

I don't know. What classifies? What is, what is, okay, when they say child porn, I'm just curious. How old are these kids? I don't know. I don't know. I don't even know what, like, are they, like, seven? What are they like 13?

I guess, I guess, there's almost like two categories. There's like, really bad child pornography, which is like seven younger, and then there's like seven to 13, which is like this. They kind of look like, terrible. I can value it. You're still going to fucking prison for either one, so, you know, I can, you know. So you know it's all the fucking same. I despise children like for the fucking Oh yeah I don't find attractive I hate them I hate them I hate they're fucking

Wow you have to say that they're annoying but is it like I don't want to see like the art form Closed like yeah yeah what is it about like are seeking people who want to watch that What are they looking for is it just the Is it the innocence? No I don't think yeah one child is getting the harm No one child pornography videos but I think like child pornography videos but I think it's more yeah ruining innocence. Yeah, like the ruining of innocence. Probably. Like the virginity thing. The whole like popping the first

cherry. That's interesting. But I'm the opposite though. I'm into like sluts who just love taking... Yeah, I don't mind. I'm totally into total sucks. That's why it's like... This is white man porn. I know that's a hypocrisy. There's a huge big sluts who fucking love dick. So it's like I'll never be a pito. I don't think.

What's that? Petos. I think there's a huge hypocrisy with the whole child pornography thing. Like this unspoken thing that's so, like the majority of grown guys are into it. However, they will not admit to it. You think so? And that shows by, you know, the majority?

You know what the most popular pornography is? Wait, are you seeing the majority people are into the acting? Yeah, teen. Young teenager, the younger, teenagers is a better. The more barely legal, the more people like them. That's the most popular thing in the porn in the scene. That's actually a hundred percent fact. And when you go to like things like the, the most popular, but milf is the second.

Yeah, I was going to say, milf is actually, I much go for milk. But teens are so much more popular in milfs. And when you go to a place like the dark web, child pornography is the most sought-after thing. Have you been to the dark web? I don't know. I have. I've been a few times. Any person who's actually had sex with somebody knows that a grown woman is much more capable in bed.

So I think when you're looking for like milfs or clearly like seasoned, you know, you're looking for someone who knows how to please, who knows how to fuck. If you're looking for these barely illegal or children porn, it's nothing to do. with fucking anymore. Now it's some, it's not about sex anymore. It's about power or, or some psychological thing. Because you know children or younger girls

cannot do what these professionals or older women can do. Exactly. I agree. That is my opinion. It'll turn on psychologically destroying them for the rest of their lives. You just like, maybe it has to be, something like that.

It's a natural attraction to you. Do you think from, so you're saying a lot of people look for that, do you think a lot of those people, those men, let's say they're men, Let's see the men that watch that, possibly have children and or female siblings? Yes.

I can understand. See, I don't see how this even fucking possible. Because, like, I have a hard time, like, even, like, looking at, like, a college girl now, if she looks, just because of my sister. There's just weird. There's a distinction. There's two different worlds. They're different worlds.

It's like when you're having sex with someone, you're not thinking of your mom. Right. You're not thinking of, like, you're just having, that's a complete different world. I see. So you're saying more like teens, not like little kids. No, no, because little kids aren't allowed. That's why teens are the most powerful thing. Yeah.

I hate teenagers so fucking much. Doesn't mean I won't fuck a teenager. I'm just saying, like, teenagers in general, I hate, like, with a passion. If a swore of teen girls showed up. Oh, my God, I would be so fucking infuriated. And then fuck them. No, well, like, if there were 18. Oh, fuck them.

18. Only at third legal age, I would have sex with him. If there were 17 years old and 164 days of them. old, no serene, no attraction whatsoever. However, if it was their birthday that day and the- I would wait until they were fucking 18? I think a good year point, I think good year point is 10 years up or down from your own age.

I think that's a very... So you're 18, you can have sex with an 8-year-old? No. Yes, let's just move it up. Can we move it up? So if you're 38, if you're with someone who's 28 or 58, or no, 48, I think that makes sense. Obviously, you know, if you're 8 years old, it doesn't make sense to fuck someone that's negative 2.

Half your age plus 7. It works. Oh, half your age plus 7? Yeah, I was gonna ask today. Isn't that from a thing? Yeah, that's a good common thing. So what am I? 24? 12 plus 7, 8... 19? That's too old, man.

I don't need to go over like, fucking 16. Too old? 16, man, come on. Too old! It's 17? I think half your age plus 7 makes more sense. Yeah. What would that be for me?

I'm 35. I would be... What is that? 17 plus 24. My age. Yeah, yeah. I still listen to the show Open Anthony. He's like 50 something.

He went to a prom with a 70. Dude, Anthony, though, he is like, he's very questionable in a lot of... Wait, wait, like, actually wins your prom? Like, as a date date? Or as like as a chaperone? Yeah, no, Anthony Qumia, he's very, very questionable in a lot of ways.

I can spend a whole podcast just thought about this guy out. He's so intelligent and funny at times. He's a huge racist, and he's a huge racist, and he's a poor lamb pedophile. Well, I really like Roman Blansky. He's really really like... I mean, I don't really love Woody Allen,

but I like him. But you know, looking at a guy like Jeff, yeah. I could see a teenage girl being a huge part in the time. Oh, yeah. I could see Jeff with both of his arms out flexing and girls holding onto his biceps. No, no, Jeff would be...

Are you saying I would welcome this into my life? No, Jeff would absolutely not. It would be, like, if it would happen, it would, like, change your life. You see Jeff, like, getting texts, you're getting texted, like, all hours of the night? Just like, how are you doing? What are you doing right now? What do you do? I miss you.

Jeff would be a teen heart from. I said that completely wrong. I find guys my age annoying, let alone girls at half my age. I like everybody annoying. Jeff has a teen hearts around. I have zero, I have zero patience for almost anybody. I'm not interested in, like, teenagers and shit. No, I hate teenagers.

You know, here's how I see it. I think art is completely different from real life. What I see in art is completely what my body says. Yeah, in my opinion, if the character's young and it's art, but to me, it's like, you know, it's fucking art. And even then, I kind of draw a line. Like, there's artists who draw stuff that's a little, makes me too uncomfortable, so I still have boundaries.

Would you play a dating sim, like a 2D and anime girl dating sim? Sure. In high school. It's a game. It's not going to, there's going to be no effect. I thought that's apparently a big industry, I'm just curious. No, no, I would do it, but I mean, like, I'm not very invested in those things because I hate, like, the underlining, like, oh, you have to sleep, there's all this, like, you have to, like, more your favorite color. It's all the same shit.

You, like, go to the store, you buy flowers. No, you gotta do your job. You get up a package. You get five bucks. Yeah, I fucking hate that. Do you buy yourself a beer, or do you buy flowers for the girl? I was joking around, but I actually brought it to Tom and said, when we finished this game, what if we made, like, a creepy dating, a dating game. You're not even creepy, just something weird.

I don't know, some kind of just dialogue-based. It should be really realistic, too. Like, if you go on a date with this one girl, like, and it doesn't work out, quote-unquote, like, you'll start, like, dating some other girl, but then that old girl keeps texting you, like, just randomly throughout the game. It's something. Yeah, almost, like, too realistic.

Just, like, it makes you quit the game. You just hate everything about it. You quit the game. See, what would make it really realistic is if you quit the game, but then she was still able to text your actual phone. This is making me, like, really appreciate being single. Called, like, Monster Dater. Yeah.

No, she would just keep texting your actual. phone or sending you emails, like even though you quit the game. That would be a real simulator. That would be interesting. I could see someone making that. I tried making a dating sim game ages ago. It was very intricate, and I stopped doing it because it was too hard. Is this the creepiest episode of the recording?

My game had a night and day season, like, cycle. Oh, my God. What? Like, you would... Is there a maker for... like RPG maker? Is there a dating sim maker?

I did it in Flash and I had it I purposely made it so the time frame was five minutes and all I did was just take the color orange and make it slowly fade in

after a while so you had this like 60 million frame so that same yeah that symbol was actually just the fucking like that was the whole symbol in the background?

That became night is that still online anywhere? Absolutely not. I never finished it. I never finished it. It was too intricate. Like, when you start doing, like, missions and stuff, like, she's like, oh, come with me to a place and you follow her to a place and sit through some bullshit. And then she tells you, like, she talks about it and you have to answer it.

And if you get a bunch of stuff wrong, you would. I want to see your script for it. I want to see what you told the girls to say. Dude, it was like 15. I know. That's why I want to see it. What do girls talk like when you're 15? I was like 16.

It had intricate sex scenes. Of course it did. Of course it did. You say like a few things right and you can fuck her because I didn't want to do any of this shit. Right in the beginning? Like right at the start of the game. Yeah you go to her fucking thing and she's like I'm horning and then you can fuck her immediately. I was just like fuck it nobody cares. It's like do you say ABC or enter phrase here and if you get enter that phrase it was just a quick quick jump right to the end of the game

exactly it was like a button you can press immediately after you watch something so should we stop? Hey thanks so much for joining guys you guys are the best We're gonna fuck off now, so why don't you do the same? Good luck. Bye! That was Shadman versus the world. Boy, do those guys like to eat a lot of snacks?

Nom, nom, nom. Like when I eat your mother's booty. Anyway, I'm going to check on the kids in my basement. Goodbye.