Sloss and Humphries On The Road - 5.14: Straight White Rhino
Episode Date: January 11, 2023Sober Cream and sore Muggins check in with their lifestyles a week into the new year. Kai stumbles across a Geordie phrase he doesn't know whether is unique to his friends or broadly used in the North... East. Daniel tries to justify big game hunting.
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Hello everyone! Welcome to another episode of Sloss and Humphreys on the Road.
Thank you very much for tuning in to listen to us talk shit with each other.
This is... I mean, I know there was a New Year's special, but we don't really consider it a New Year's special,
or the first one of the New Year, because we were fucking half-cut, Jerome.
I would say this is the first official podcast of 2023.
I am boringly sober, which I think makes me more coherent.
But I'm not fucking sure. I would be genuinely interested to people who regularly listen to
the podcast if you notice any difference in me when I'm stoned all the time and when I'm sober
all the time. Because I asked Cara about it the other day and I was like, do you notice any
difference in me when I'm not stoned? she's like it's slightly easier to get your attention
and that's about it like I thought it made me sillier I thought it made me like dumber whatever
and then I realized that I'm just like that all the fucking time um so who knows anyway me and
Cara talk a bunch of fucking shit on this one. We get into a big long argument about Apple
and then we start talking about the state of the industry.
We start talking about self-loathing.
It's a lot of self-reflection because it's a fucking new year.
It's the new year.
That is when you fucking self-reflect.
If you want to watch any of our shit,
Kai has a special out on his website.
I have two specials out on my website.
If you want to subscribe to our Patreon,
you can.
Give us all of your fucking money
and enjoy the rest
of your lives.
Sloss and Humphreys
on the road.
Muggins and cream,
cream and muggins,
straight thuggin',
livin' the dream.
That's our intro.
Fuckin' muggles.
Ticklin' the clit
inside your head
that makes you laugh.
Woo!
They said it can't be done.
Are we in the same seats?
That's hack.
Ah, muggles.
Accidental rim job
in the park.
Kiss, kiss, kiss.
Or might just be cynical.
Just muggled it up on fucking Mugglepedia.
Where have you been since 9-11?
I'm really sore.
Sore?
Aloha.
Broaders, anyway.
That seems serious.
Go somewhere else.
That's been sore for years, that.
Lots of abrasions.
I thought the outside would be, you know, fine, but the inside just...
I've had my nose broken loads.
Have you?
Aye.
I've been kicked in the face a bunch.
Aye.
Once in a fight of a doorman.
I remember that one.
I remember that phone call.
Once when I went to do
a low header
as the
as the central defender
I was clearing it
and I got the ball first
regretted my decision
immediately
and I took a knee
to the face
in rugby
I took a knee
to the face in rugby
it was in high school
and there was like
we're in first year
and we're doing the scrum
and there's a guy
on the other side
and here's the great I went to to school called weight academy and the thing was
weight academy i would say like 75 of the pupils really really fucking sound that because it's
fife there's just always scum there's always scum that fucking bleeds through uh and and uh as an
adult i can sort of say oh you know it probably wasn't uh you were in the new money school were
you well no no no well I mean
now it's new money
they knocked
like they've literally
knocked down our old school
and built a new one
on top of it
just to you know
get rid of all of our memories
but like
as an adult
I can look back
and be like
alright all the kids
who were pieces of shit
to me
realistically
were having
really bad times at home
like all that's learned
behaviour
like that's
that was their
their outlet
for whatever reason was
violence and bullying
and picking on people
but at the same time
if I were to
read
the Fife Free Press
and find out
that Callum
is dead
I don't think
I would
I think my dry January
would be
would be
would be
master being
I
some fucking kid
kneed me
in the face
I managed to turn my face
at the last fucking second
but it was just
I've never broken my nose
thank
well
thank fucking God
but you know
you give them an orbital
protect me orbital
man if I was to get kneed
if my nose was to get broken
I think I would have to
end my life
because you can't smash this
and repair it
like that
like it would be really prominent
it's too big
like can you tell
I've got a broken nose
when you look at it
yeah
or did I need to point it out
well I mean
there's just so much going on
with your face
that it's not good
it's like where's Wally
so I'm really sore
because I played football
five-a-side
now have you gone through have you made the same mistake that I did when last time so I'm really sore because I played football five a side now
have you gone through
have you made the same mistake
that I did
when last time
we played seven a side
and afterwards
I was like
oh my god
I'm in absolute pain
I'm in so much agony
clearly that's because I'm unfit
and then turns out
two days later
it turns out
it's because I had COVID
and it was all the muscle pain
that I was actually getting
being like
I don't think I use my neck much
in football
well that's not true
where'd he go
watching the Formula 1
there I've got like
my trainers didn't work
on wet astroturf
and I slid around everywhere
and I like
I try and like
my games turn a pace
in that
I don't have that anymore
not really
especially with slippery trainers on
and I was just slipping,
running,
falling.
Now I've got like fucking grazes
off the astroturf.
I want my body,
my muscles are sore,
my fucking hips are hurting.
It's mad that...
I don't know how much of it was like
my footwear
and falling over
and how much of it was just being a 39 year old.
And I have to just accept that now
if I play football,
that's going to hurt for a bit.
Yeah, aye. And also
AstroTurf is really like,
I can understand the theory of why it exists
and it's certainly better than
you know, gravel.
You know, there was, man, they used to, I mean,
I know you belong to a generation that probably
had it fucking worse, but in our primary
school and high school, we were like, where's the
football pitches? They're like, we've sprayed it on
concrete. And you're like, you sprayed it on concrete and you're like
you fucking what
yeah
you guys want a football pitch
so we had a big fucking car park
so we just
we painted over all the car park lines
and we just put a football pitch there
it was class
enjoy
stay on your feet
if you can
so we had the
the square we called it
it's because on the council estate
they had like this part
where they were going to build garages
and then decided that they weren't going to spend
any more money on this council estate.
So they've just got the plot where the garages were meant to be.
And half of it is allotment walls.
You know, the pebble dash into the fucking community gardens.
You know what allotments are.
I'm telling you, you've never heard of allotments.
And then the other two are the neighbours
whose ball goes into that garden every fucking time.
You know, if you move into their end-houses
where your wall of your garden
goes into an open space,
just embrace it, that garden ball guy.
Yeah, that's it.
If we had one family on the end,
that would just give the ball back.
In fact, they would say,
just give a knock, just jump,
oh, I'll get the ball.
Our neighbours where we grew up but they were literally beside
the park and they were like just jump over the fence lads but do your best to not jump
on the rose bushes or the things here's the bit of the fence. I think at one point Kevin
across the road literally like with a saw cut the bit in the hedges where he wanted
us to jump through and only that. There we go.
That's how you do it.
Yeah.
Or you can be the ball Nazi who everyone hopes you fucking die.
The one on the other side.
That's the reason why shit's getting posted through your fucking letterbox.
That's why people were laughing when your wife died.
It's because you're a cunt.
It's because you're a fucking cunt.
That's it.
Alright that's it.
Cunt on one side and then the fucking...
But then pebble dash walls were like, you know when you're playing the hostile game of football
when it's a close four game
and the ball's near the edge
and you just both
sprint and ram
into each other
against the locker
we call them the locker walls
why?
the lockers
over the lockers
allotments
it's just like
you know
in a game of football
I just went over the allotments
lockers
but there's no
I just
I don't like the abbreviation
because there's no K
in allotment
lotters doesn't work man
Lot as works
When has dropping the T ever fucking stopped you cunts
From saying anything
I know but we're just lockers
But lockers are already a word
And they're not lockers
Unless you were calling it the hurt locker
But that movie wasn't out yet so I don't think so
I hope it's a jolly thing And not you were calling it the heart locker, in which case fair, but that movie wasn't out yet, so I don't think so.
I hope it's a Geordie thing and not just a me thing.
I got your joke as well.
Sorry about that.
I was thinking through it though.
I was like, let them enjoy your joke.
This is another one.
It may be like another one like poop,
where it may just be my street.
Aye.
But I hope all the people in Newcastle refer to the allotments as the lockers.
And I'd like to get feedback on a postcard about that.
Or poker, as I call it.
Loads of people got back in touch
saying that people in their families
save wrapping paper.
Told you.
I told you.
It's a fucking psycho behaviour.
I don't agree with it
but i refuse to i refuse to be gaslight in a world where no no nobody does that yeah people do it's
like i think it's again it's one of those things where i don't want to fucking besmirch it because
i reckon like 75 percent of people who do it it's a cost saving thing it's a it's a good thing it's
you know it comes from uh i don't want to say thrifty because I think there's like
negative connotations
but you know what I mean
when you're in a
not thrifty
I think thrifty's fine
is it okay
yeah you're just like
you're saving
aye
you're like
I think it's
like you know
it's cutting out coupons
like people have to do that
aye
however I think it's a relic
I don't think
I don't think it's
I don't think it's as much
of a commodity
you know
you can get a massive roll for a quid I reckon it's a relic I don't think I don't think it's I don't think it's as much Of a commodity You know You can get a massive roll
For a quid
I reckon
It's saving about 12 pence
There's a whole bunch
Of cunts out there
Called Janet
Who still do it man
No doubt in my fucking mind
Yeah just principal
And they've got money as well
Right
They fucking
They've got a job
Their husband's got a fucking job
They go on three holidays
A fucking year
But that must be
That must be handed down
Because I get it right
I get that my
Grandad Pete would make sure he ate that black banana
with the fruit bowl because he doesn't agree with waste, right?
Because he lived on rations at one point.
So to have abundance, to have surplus to him is like an absolute fucking luxury.
To us, it's normal, right?
But that isn't the case for the next generation.
So they must just carry it from the previous
with wrapping paper for sure.
I found in my house a folded up Marvel wrapping paper
with tape on it,
so that had definitely been taken from a present
and folded at the exact creases that it was.
And I just, because I found it when Natalie was at the dog park and it's only crept back up
when we made Now.
I wouldn't have even spotted it had you not mentioned that on the podcast,
but there was some,
there was some.
Now that you mention it,
Natalie seems like a fucking wrapping paper saver.
I've got to save that.
She feels like somebody would be a wrapping paper saver.
I've never seen her not just rip off the wrapping paper. However, I've got to save that. She feels like somebody would be a wrapping paper saver. I've never seen her not just rip off
the wrapping paper.
However,
I could see that.
She loves a bargain,
right?
But,
when would she...
To the detriment of joy
all around.
Yes.
Like,
getting money off something
is so much more important
to her than...
Getting there quicker.
Or having fun
while doing it.
Hey, we could either get there quicker or having fun while doing it hey we can either get there
in 15 minutes
on a luxury vehicle
or
we can get there
on Thursday
and the whole time
you're being whipped
but you have to leave now
Natalie have you just
have you booked us
a trip around
Central Park
where we're the horses
on the front of the carriage
but
you said you wanted
to see Central Park
and this
only cost £3. It shouldn't cost anything!
I should make money for it. I should be getting paid for doing the thing.
Alright, you think the horses are getting paid, Kai? Alright, you fucking psycho.
But Natalie wouldn't have gotten a present that was wrapped with Marvel wrapping paper.
I was about to say, how dare you? I've never bought gotten a present that was wrapped with Marvel wrapping paper I was about to say
how dare you
I've never bought
Natalie a present
if it was going to be anyone
it was going to be me
you did buy us a present
you bought us
a Christmas Eve box
and you bought us
steak pie
and whiskey
yeah yeah
I was stood behind
Gara when she handed you that
I said
but like
oh yeah
we're thoughtful
that's not true I did go I did go pick up the steak pie Craigie's Farm if anyone lives in Edinburgh I stood behind Gara when she handed you that. They're like, oh, yeah, we're thoughtful.
That's not true.
I did go pick up the steak pie.
Craigie's Farm, if anyone lives in Edinburgh,
just outside of Edinburgh,
there's a place called Craigie's Farm.
It's the greatest steak pie I've ever had.
And they are so,
whatever the opposite of fucking stingy it's with the meat.
You know when you go to fucking Sainsbury's or Rasta and you get a steak pie,
it's 70% crust.
And then there's like,
because it folds over the fucking side and you end up with pie it's 70% crust and then there's like because it folds
over the fucking side
and you end up with
like three bits of meat
not this
man there's an entire cow
in every one of those
fucking pies
and it's class
and if you go up there
there's two
baby
heel and coos
Highland cows?
heel and coos
heel and coos
heel and coos
two baby heel and coos
and then you can just
Buy their mother
Yeah
At the shop
You're like
This cow
Try it mum
Well I think
They also sell
They also get
So the pies aren't from Craig
It's the pies are from
A place called Buffalo Barn
So if you find anywhere
In Scotland that sells
Buffalo farm steak pies
Fucking
Big thumbs up
It was a good steak pie
Do you know what it's called
Buffalo farms
I'm going to take a little wild guess.
Have a go.
Is that they put the buffalo sauce on the chicken wings?
Oh.
I was ready to ring the victory bell there.
He's lost it now.
They make loads of pies and make with buffalo.
Yeah, that was going to be my guess.
Because there's buffalo in Scotland.
Do you know that?
Yes. I mean, they've been Buffalo in Scotland do you know that yes I mean they've been
introduced
I did not know that
they've been introduced
in the sense that
you know
do they migrate
do they just like
cut through Berwick
into
Newcastle
during the winter
it would be really good
to ask my friend
Ali
little Ali
because he knows so much
about fucking nature
now that he's a groundskeeper
and it's just his passion anyway. He was the one that
was explaining to me that they're introducing
buffalo and bison and they're
planning to hopefully in the future in Scotland
reintroduce wolves
because there's far too many fucking deer
up here. And children.
Yeah, they get to
And just
ramblers, people who are just like walking through the countryside.
Here's a question for you.
There's too many chickens at the farms.
I'm going to go somewhere with this, by the way.
Don't derail me.
No, no, just remind me that I have a point at the end of this.
Now, do you agree with hunting?
Yes.
No.
Yeah. Hmm.
Like, if you're a farmer and they are genuine vermin, they are trade.
Trim them down a bit.
Okay.
So would it be fair to say that you don't agree with people shooting fucking white rhinos or gorillas or anything like that?
Big game trophy hunting is just the fucking narcissistic, fucking
elitist, like fucking
I just think it's
massive egos, it's like fucking
little dick syndrome, like
fuck you killing a massive beast for
sport, right? Said the
man who ran with the bulls.
This podcast is
nothing but steeped in hypocrisy.
Oh yeah, yeah, it's like you didn't know this when you tuned in to watch just two young lads
just shooting the breeze in 2016.
You were going to watch a character arc.
And not a good one.
With epic proportions.
Yeah, yeah.
We just realised some epics and got less fun.
So I agree with your principle.
I've always believed that,
why would you go out and fucking shoot an elephant?
Why would you go and shoot a rhino?
I listened to a very interesting podcast the other day
where it was sort of explained in a better way.
So in Namibia, for example,
where there was a population of about 1,000 white rhinos left,
and they're trying to increase how many white rhinos there are.
To save the white rhinos,
to save the white rhinos,
would you go up to a white rhino with a desert eagle and shoot it right between the fucking eyes?
Which one's the desert eagle again?
It's the really good one on GoldenEye.
Is that like a clock?
No.
It's a handgun.
No, but it's like the big hand.
If you and me were to fire at this eagle,
our arm and the gun would end up 30 feet backwards over there.
Like a magnum.
Man, it would be comical if I fired it, right?
You would have to like, it would be like pulling string on my back
and I'd fly away like fucking carpet.
Like, really, it's a powerful fucking gun.
You'd have to have a little handgun against your shoulder
like a clip.
Yeah, it would disloc powerful fucking game. You'd have to, like, your hand going against your shoulder like a clip. Yeah.
Like, it would dislocate a little.
It would dislocate both my arm, my shoulder,
and I think my neck from my head.
Would I go and point blank range it
as an eagle out of a rhino?
Fucking aye.
Shoot it.
Like, me and Colton on the last podcast
were talking about being able to save the game
and going back to the save point
after you've done something really fucking shitty.
If I could save the game and going back to the save point after you've done something really fucking shitty if I could save the game I would
and we'll also come to
the conclusion that if you could do that you would live more
on the unsaved game than you would on your
saved game
you wouldn't know what's actually happening in the actual narrative of your life
because you've spent so much time going rogue from your
save point
so in Namibia part of the conservation your save point. So in Namibia, part of the conservation tactics,
and this isn't just Namibia,
they also do this in the States and America,
they hand out basically hunting tokens, right,
which is the conservation team, company, whatever it is
that is in charge of these animals goes,
right, every year you're allowed to kill 10 of these wolves you're
allowed to kill 15 of these moose or whatever and we're going to auction the chance to hunt these
things off and all the money that you gain from you're going to auction this off to a bunch of
hunters somebody bids 150 grand to shoot a fucking moose we give them the token they're allowed to
go hunt a moose they have the moose is theirs they shoot in the fucking head we take all that money and we put it back into conservation all the money goes in there
and i'm like okay that's an interesting thing and what they've done in namibia is they auction off
i don't like the sound of this like this is like hey if you fuck that child for like a hundred
million we'll spend a hundred million on the orphanage just don't look their tail and give the money. Not a bad argument.
So in Namibia, the auction off the chance to shoot a white rhino, right?
And the guy ends up bidding 350 grand for it.
Now, the rhino that he's out there to shoot is, it's infertile.
It's so old that it's infertile.
It's roughly got about two or three years left.
And because it's a big fucking white rhino,
it's killing younger male fertile white rhinos
because it's getting...
And he's paid 350 grand.
And by the way,
the money that goes in,
this, what's the word, plan,
this scheme...
Scheme.
It's a scheme.
Has increased the population of the white rhino in Namibia from 1,000 to 5,000. what's the word plan this scheme scheme has increased
the population
of the white rhino
in Namibia
from 1,000
to 5,000
aye
but how
like
pay me 100,000
and you can
punch this woman
in the face
and we'll put all that money
into a domestic abuse charity
and it's going to save them
but
he punched a woman
but they've saved
lots of other women
but it's a
but it's a dying
but it's a dying white rhino.
It's only got two years left.
It's aggressive.
It's actually ruining.
But this woman here has got a criminal record to shoplift.
All right, good.
I'm not disagreeing with you.
I'm not.
I'm just saying, when it was pitched to me in that way,
I'm sitting there going, oh, fuck.
I mean, don't get me wrong.
It's awful because it's playing God, right?
And that's what people
don't like about
what we're doing
with animal conservation
is we are playing God
but I'm also like
first of all
we are God
right
no matter what
anyone fucking likes
human beings are God
there is no real God
in the world
we are in charge
of conservation
we are in charge
of what happens
to the world
and this is not
the nicest way
to fix the problem
but at the moment
we're the devil
no
we're the devil
no
no I think
depends which side you're on
yeah
yeah
so my point is
I'm not saying this argument
fucking confines me
it holds up
but it's certainly
I didn't know this
and listening to this
that animal's gotta go
and we're gonna just
it's killing the young rhinos
we're going to have to like
put it in its own conservation
which is going to cost more money
keeping it alive in this place right
so we're going to have to exterminate it
for the good of the species
with the 350,000 money
not only can we keep the population
we have already safe
we can employ park rangers
to go around and stop poachers
and that's again
they put the money into this
now again I
from what I've heard from the articles and podcasts I've read in this to go around and stop poachers. And that's, again, they put the money into this. Now, again, I,
from what I've heard from the articles and podcasts
that I've read,
and this works,
I mean, there's always the case of,
like, it could be underhanded
fucking bullshit.
It could be lies.
But, you know,
plenty of officials are saying
it fucking works.
So you go from, like,
being like,
okay, to save these,
me, someone who's, you know,
against, you know, guns
and really sort of against hunting, listening to this argument, I'm like, oh know against you know guns and really sort of
against hunting
listening to this argument
I'm like oh fuck
and now I'm sort of back
it's controlled evil
it is controlled evil
it's the
we can't eliminate the evil
so it can put the bumpers up
and then just like
funnel the evil
well I've got to tell you
I'm now fully
fully
my leftism
is gone
and I'm leaning to the right
now I think
it is absolutely
our duty
as human beings
when there is
an endangered animal
and if we have
the right to
if we have the ability
to conserve
the many
for the lives
of the few
that is our fucking job
and also
as a right wing person
I believe
that the most endangered
species in the world
is the straight white man
therefore I pose that the most endangered species in the world is the straight white man.
Therefore, I pose that in order to conserve us as a endangered species, that once a year...
We need to get rid of the straight white rhino.
We have an auction where we let women
and the Middle Easterns and the blacks and the Jews
and everyone else
from the rest of the world
just bet on the right
to hunt Piers Morgan
Jordan Peterson
and put the money in
yeah
and it's for the good
it's for the good
of straight white men
it's for the good
of straight white men
everywhere
because we are
under fucking attack
daily
because that money
is going to keep us fucking
we're just going to get
put in the farms
we can try and
reproduce
that's all we're good for
all you bloody
woke fucking liberals
out there
you tell me
you fucking look me
in my fucking eyes
and tell me
if I auctioned off
the chance
for you to
fucking shoot
King Charles
in the back of the
fucking head
that you and your
friends aren't getting
together being like
I reckon I'll remortgage the house.
You'd be in a ghillie suit outside the palace.
You know, that notoriously non-grassy patch of land.
Why does that bush have a rifle?
Somebody tells a shit joke and they're like,
oh, look, tumbleweed.
Oh, no.
It's like, your head's come off
Tumbleweed's just
You're rolling in it
Just doing forward rolls
To get closer and closer
Does he have a knife there that's
That's what I was saying
Aye
So I'm so cost of the football
It's an old man podcast now isn't it
Aye
Aye
Also
I'm gonna
I think I've already confessed this to you
When I was drunk
I'm gonna do it again
While we're sober
Now that you're sober
I've completed
The orchid
And bought
An iMac
First of all
Do you mean orchard?
It doesn't
Oh that's a plant
Fucking You meant orchard the desert oh that's a plant fucking
you meant orchard
because it's apple products
you stupid
unbelievable
oops
that was me that one
sorry for touching me
you hit us with something that when we're drunk and i tell you about it right
i was like wait i've got it because i've got my office that i barely use because i'm constantly
unplugging my mac from the second screen and from the power and all that right and i'm putting my
bag and i'm on the road or i'm coming here for the podcast and i need my mac everywhere i go
and then when i come back i didn't finally on setting it up and me office becomes storage right so I would like a desktop
that doesn't leave me office and I can sit down and use when I'm in my office you know like why
didn't you just get a pc then so you can do some gaming play gloomhaven like fucking all that shit
I was like I just like the way like me photos on me phone will then be on my computer. I wouldn't have to do anything because I'm in the Apple family.
And at what point in your sad, sad fucking life
is the way you look at photos is to go into your office,
log into your computer and just scroll.
What the fuck are you talking about?
That's not your dream. That's nobody's dream.
Nobody wants to do that.
That hasn't existed since 1997.
Oh, just what are you doing?
Just scrolling through pictures.
When you used to have to take your...
Oh, no, wait, I forgot.
I bought a fucking Mac,
so there's no scroll wheel.
Oh, yes.
No, there is.
It's on the mouse.
Oh, it's a little fucking...
It doesn't exist as a trackpad.
I don't know what's wrong with you people.
I like... I've got this dream.
Listen to my dream.
I've got this dream that one day I'm just going to sit down and listen to podcasts.
I'm going to go through all of my photos, right?
And I'm going to tag in people who are in it.
Like where, like just things like these are comedians.
So it's in the comedians file.
So anytime I want to find a photo, I can use tags to search it
and I can find the photo, right?
And I'm not going to do that on my phone,
I guarantee it.
I also guarantee you're not going to do it
on your fucking laptop computer.
No, I'm going to have to,
out of stubbornness.
But also, no, it's the desktop.
The desktop on my Mac
is the exact same as the desktop
in my office now, on my phone.
So if I want files, if I'm doing writing,
wherever I sit doing, my writing's there.
If I'm editing a video, that's there.
Like, everything, like, to have everything on every device,
on, like, the cloud, is so much more worthy to me
than it just running better and being less glitchy.
To have everything just, like, communicating with each other. I'd rather I'd be in the same family than it just running better and being less glitchy to have everything just like communicating
with each other i'd rather i'll be in the same family than it be disjointed yeah but why not go
to the better family that like if you want that why not do that with the better windows version
because i'm already in too deep i'd have to fucking completely uproot every single device i've got
uproot every single device I've got.
Aye, but that's... Say that.
Yeah.
Say that then.
Like I just,
like being like,
look, this,
look, I got this fucking shit tattoo
when I was 17 years old.
And you know what?
I could get LASIK surgery
to get it off me arm
and then just get a better tattoo
over the top.
But I've just decided
to make it blend in.
I'm just going to get shit tattoos
all over me arm,
all over my chest,
up my neck and into my eyeballs. And I'm only going to get kids to do it. And I'm only going to get shit tattoos all over my arm, all over my chest up my neck and into my eyeballs
and I'm only going to get kids to do it
and I'm only going to get kids with no depth perception
to do it, I'm just going to double down
on this shit thing over
and over and over again
I get what you're saying, however
I've been on your computer
you've got a fucking excellent computer, a gaming machine
you bought it for Twitch, it's fucking brilliant
and I got on, and you're're just using it as a cluttered desktop
to have podcasts on and that, right?
You're using 1% of your computer's ability.
Oh, man, I don't know.
You need a Mac.
Well, no, no, I bought this for...
You need some user-friendly, idiot-proof machine,
not something that's got the depth of personality that a PC does.
You need a basic bitch of a computer.
Well, I did have a basic bitch of a computer for so long. I mean, I went from, you remember,
I was PC and that up until I was about 19, 20. And then I did what you did and I converted
to Mac. And then my problem with it, I have had two Macs that just caught fire, just caught
fire while on my fucking lap, just halfway through. And it's all a scam. Here's the thing,
I can take this computer to any fucking cunt in Edinburgh, right?
Any one of the shops, and they'll be able to fix it.
They'll go, this tiny thing's broken.
How much does that cost to replace?
Fuck all.
We've got to spare.
Da-da-da-da-da.
As opposed to these Mac fucking gurus being like,
oh, it's an unknown problem.
We've got to take it through the back and diagnose it.
Can I come with you?
No.
Hey, hey, I brought my wife into hospital to give birth can i be in the room while she gives birth absolutely not no no
we've got to we've got to do it through in the back room there that's great how long will it take
an amount of time they come back 15 minutes later so there's been complications with your partner's
birth uh it's going to cost you an extra grand to save her life can I at least talk to her about it no she's in the other room
can you bring her back
can I take her
to a different hospital
we tied her down
why did you tie her down
why
she's giving birth
are you paying
the money or not
no
it's all a scam
from top to bottom
the thing that got me right
is that
obviously the one
that you want to buy
is there
because it's the
it's got the price that's within your range on it right and then it's like or do you want to have
like this upgrade on it for like 200 pound and you go oh that'll mean i've got it for longer
because it's going to stand the test of time by having that and then you're like but i don't
really need that the point of his buying this is that like it's exactly what i need it's it's a
fucking glorified type right now so get get the minimum one. Yeah. Right?
And then it's like,
but if you don't get it now,
you won't be able to upgrade it.
And I'm like,
well, that's where you're a piece of shit.
Yeah.
Because now you can take the back off a PC and fucking put in a...
I've been doing that
since I was fucking 12 years old,
is putting an extra eight megabytes of memory
or whatever into me fucking dad's computer.
So you can do it.
Aye.
You've just opted to superglue everything in.
Aye, aye.
To just be bastards.
To just get more.
To just be bastards.
To just bring more
fucking money out.
Aye.
So I went for the absolute
fucking basic bitch model
and just fucking...
Also, the reason I don't use this,
I expected to be out here
gaming much more
and then I became a father
and they also,
then they just invented
the Steam Deck
and I was like,
oh, well, I mean, that's what,
that's what I actually wanted.
And I,
as much as I'm like,
in my head,
I think I want to do PC gaming.
Every time I've done it, right,
and I've just got all these keys
and like,
he had us on Warcraft,
which is such a basic game.
Like, this isn't even a modern game.
It's an old one.
And you're like,
and all your buffs are on here
and shit like that, right? And I'm there like, I want to have like a little key card. I'm like, F1 is the a basic game. Like, this isn't even a modern game. It's an old one. And you're like, and all your buffs are on here and shit like that, right?
And I'm there, like,
I want to have, like, a little key card.
I'm like, F1 is the buff for that.
I'm dead already.
Like, I haven't got the functioning anymore
to do that.
So, like, I need this.
Like, if I'm playing computers,
I'm doing that.
So I was like,
if I was buying a gaming station,
I would have maybe had different ideas.
But I'm not going to be gaming on that thing
well I hope you enjoy
scrolling your photos
on your two
grand picture frame
that's stationary
in an office
for that
one dream
that we all have
which is to
you know
you going to come
join us for dinner
no can do
if only there was
a handheld version
of this
where I could just
look through
there is
no
no there's not
if I write a show
on that thing
with every penny
it is
it's my
I feel the writing
process coming on now
like you know
when you're like
there's so many obstacles
including the dishes
like everything
you're like
oh well
unless I get that done
I'm not going to get
my writing done
and you start like it's mint when you're writing, oh, well, unless I get that done, I'm not going to get my writing done. And you start like,
it's mint when you're writing a French show,
because your hoose becomes immaculate.
Everything gets ordered.
No,
you procrastinate.
You do every other thing apart from writing a fucking show.
If I come out of your hoose,
and all your comic books are in fucking alphabetic order or whatever,
I'll be like,
oh,
Daniel's writing.
Yep.
It's part of the process.
So this splurge on myself is part of the process. So this splurge on myself is part of the process,
even though I'm probably going to come up with the idea
seconds before I go on stage, scribbling it down,
and then it'll work, and I'll listen back to the recording,
and I'll add in a line, or I'll send the recording to you and Nelson,
and you'll go, right, what about if you do it this way?
I'll probably end up growing me jokes
in the same way
but I've just got
this weird fantasy
that I'm going to
get up one morning
and just get me coffee
and just sit down
in me dress
and go
and pipe
and I'm going to
write a print show
my problem with
the fucking writing process
is because I think
there's different times
of the day
when your brain
is better for it
now mine's
is not the morning
right
I've tried writing
in the morning
for some people that you know for a lot of creatives they? I've tried writing in the morning for some people that, you know, for a lot of creatives, they're like, do it first thing in the morning.
I'm like, if your brain is up at that time, congratulations, good for you. If I try and
feed my body at 7am, my body is like, what the literal fuck are you doing here? My brain is like,
we're not here to chew. You can pour coffee down. Well, you can pour, I can open the throat so
coffee can go down your fucking neck. Chewing's not an option. Talking's not a fucking option. here to chew you can pour coffee down well you can pour I can open the throat so coffee
can go down
your fucking
neck
chewing's not
an option
talking's not
a fucking
option
none of
these other
things
I think my
most creative
time
and certainly
when I'm
feel like
oh I'm like
I'm so good
at it right now
I'm in a really
funny mood
is it like
8 or 9pm
I'm not fucking
going out at 8 or 9pm
to write a fucking
show that's
nighttime
people want your attention then
aye
your lass has just finished work
your kid's just gone to bed
or whatever
bed is me and Cara time
like fuck am I like
I'm just going to go
and listen to the
90 fucking minute show
that I know back to front
in order to try
and get it down to
I'm not doing it
I'm not doing it
I've just realised
I don't have my wedding ring on
and I just look like
I'm going through a rough time
like I'm just buying
those Apple products
to fill the void left by my wife. I came straight from the gym.
Oh, you take the ring off to the gym? I've done the ring.
Ah, you hold the barbell. It's fucking not very good for it. It's just fucking,
it's probably lift bang heavy weights at the minute.
Do you not want to put it through a fucking load of the rings chain?
Tuck it in.
It looked like just deed. Do you not want to put it through a fucking Lord of the Rings chain? Tuck it in.
It looked like just deed.
Kisses before I do my deadlift.
Deadlift!
They're reminding me of her.
That's where I go.
Sorry, what was my point there
writing
that time of night
would be perfect
like if I
I reckon I'd be writing
way more if I was
a divorcee
yeah
I'd write a book
like I'd fucking
I'd fight
because at that time
when like
fucking nobody's
thinking about you
in the evening
yeah yeah
that would be the most
like
that's probably why
like all artists
are tortured
because of the fucking
I guess they're
filling that void
of loneliness
or something
ah fuck no
I'm just too happy
to write
I do
it is this fucking thing
and I know lots of comedians
feel this way
and there's an ongoing
discussion about it
and you know
it's probably not just comedians
it's probably everything
you've touched on it there
which is the tortured artist thing
which is
there's always this fear
as a comedian, which is, if you
become happy, you will be
less funny, because humour
normally comes from
pain, struggle,
adversity, things
thrown at you, and, you know,
most of the time, happy things, you know, they're just
happy, they don't need to be fucking funny or getting joy
from at the moment.
And you get plenty of people,
I've seen,
I can't remember what community it is,
been like,
oh,
that's such an insane way to say the word
as if you're going to be less fucking funny
when you're happy.
As somebody who's much happier
than I was when I was 25,
I'm so much less funny.
I'm so,
I am palpably less funny
than I was when I was 25.
Are you just easier entertained
when you're happy?
You find stuff like,
you find simple stuff
funny because you're
already in a positive
disposition
well I'm also trying to
impress less fucking people
yeah
I'm like your opinion
means less to me
because I've got people
now close to me
who I love
and their opinion
means the most to me
it's hard to seek
the validation of strangers
when you've got just
validation of loved ones
all the time
yeah
so it is
it is a hard place to write.
I tell you where it's fucking annoying this.
The place I come up with good ideas the most, right,
is if I'm driving listening to music.
If I'm driving listening to an audio book,
I'm not thinking of shit because I'm listening to the audio book.
And if I can't have a thought, I punish myself for it
or wind it and fucking snap back into it, right?
So I don't let myself think that way,
which is most of how I drive.
But if I'm driving listening to music, I'll have ideas and it's frustrating because i'll be on the fucking
m8 coming here and i'm roast battling colin thinking of a fucking belt i roast for colin
and again right now i'm gonna have to fucking write that down when i pull over and then i pull
over and say hello to you come to your podcast and then i'm like oh shit i'll have to write that
down after i'm already clutching at what it might have been all right so like if you're in a position
to not write shit down
And that's the place when you think the best
What a shit catch 22 that is
Aye
There's got to be a way around that
I mean I guess voice memo would be the way around that
But like
That's just something so inherently wanky
Like I think
If I was ever in my car
And a joke came to me
And I went Okay Google, jot this down.
Rhinos, they're an endangered species and the way to save them is to hunt a select few.
Also, white men are endangered.
I think if I ever had a brief moment of self-reflection of doing that in my Tesla,
I would go, you know what?
That next lamppost is what I need to go through.
Like, unclick the fucking belt straight off the road.
Send me fucking through.
I know.
Put your feet where the airbags are about to come in.
Or just under the back window.
Hold on.
So the Tesla hit the lamppost but his body's
30 feet behind
look
we caught it on some
one of the
one of the road cameras
it looked sick
it makes no sense
we've got a bunch
of physicists in here
they can't make any sense
of it
anyway
that's the bit
the right rhino bit's
not the bit
they're examining
they're writing it down that's the bit. The right rhino bit's not the bit. They're examining, they're writing it down.
That's the bit.
Write that down.
Doing OK Google of that being the bit.
I've never not counted.
And then just Russian doll the bit
and then that's an entire show.
I used to, I remember when I was younger,
I don't know if it's necessarily I had more passion for this job,
I don't want to say that,
but I think when I was younger and less successful,
because this job fell out of reach,
it was something I hadn't attained,
it was always, you know, God, I want to do this.
Man, there were times when I'd be at home still living with my parents
and I'd wake up at one in the morning and I'd have a joke come to me and I would literally take myself out
of bed and I'd go downstairs, open my laptop in the kitchen and I'd sit and fucking write
down.
Nowadays, if I wake up at one in the morning and my brain goes, here's a funny joke, and
I'm like, my phone is there.
It's within fucking hand reach.
I'm like, oh well, today a joke died.
That's nothing.
I'm like, I'm a genius.
I'll come up with another one.
And then it's July and you're like, what?
I'm pretty sure I had some funny thoughts this year,
but according to my phone, it's just shopping lists.
And I don't find well that if I just go back
and start listening through podcasts,
there'd be stuff that got captured. I'm not doing that. I'm not going to do that when I just go back and start listening through podcasts there'd be stuff that got captured
I'm not doing that
I'm not going to do that when I'm going for my photos
tagging Brucey in them
who I
picture future me to be is a
fucking square
every time I'm like ooh I'd like to do that
why am I trying to create like
somebody that's
going to hate their life
as an ideal
as an
my ideology
for myself
is an absolute
fucking loser
yeah
yeah well
I'm noticing that
during
during this
month
I've been like
you know what
I'm going to give myself
structure
you know
I'm not I'm not I'm not
getting drunk and I'm not getting stoned tonight so I can't wake up at seven in the morning I'll
come out I'll do some gem I'll fucking meditate and the entire every morning is I and it's this
great this is about every day has gone so far in January for me my coffee alarm clock goes off at
6 50 does it make you a coffee it makes me you a coffee? It makes me a wee espresso.
I remember you showed us that.
I was like,
he's going to somehow turn that into a clothes rack.
They're somehow going to end up with towels and that hanging off it.
Oh man, I haven't used it in four years,
but you know, I fucking dust it off.
A little relic.
Yeah.
Oh, by the way,
I haven't used it in four years,
but the tray
that keeps all the coffee beans
I'm like
that'll still be good
I'm like coffee
coffee doesn't go off
what's that based on
a gut feeling
yeah
are you gonna have a lot of gut feelings later on
you fucking moron
so
I wake up
coffee alarm goes up at 6.50
makes me my coffee
eh
Carrot and Kaelin are both able to sleep through it
drink my coffee put on my Kaelin are both able to sleep through it drink my coffee
put on my gym stuff
I go outside
I walk
to the office
I step over that
fucking tree
get in here
I do a bit of cardio
I do some stretching
sometimes I do some abs
and then I sit
and I meditate
and the entire time
I am meditating
right
all the intrusive thoughts
in my head are
you fucking
wanker.
You fucking
wanker. And you just have to watch
the thought of calling yourself a wanker
just float off and dissipate and
return back to the breathing.
I'm not my own thoughts, that's not who I am.
Just observe that thought. Oh, here comes another thought.
What a fucking loser. It's the same thought again. But that's not my own thoughts, that's not who I am, just observe that thought. Oh, here comes another thought. What a fucking loser.
It's the same thought again.
But that's not my thought, that's not my thought.
Thoughts are like cars passing in a motorway.
You're not in charge of them, you're not in control of them,
you're just there to observe them.
This one's going, oh good, here comes another two.
I'm a wanker again, aren't I?
I'm just, oh God, I'm just such a fuck.
And then eventually they're like, and that was it, over.
I'm like, I've just called myself a wanker for ten minutes.
There's nothing relaxing about this.
Your version of meditation
is like fucking playing Beat Saber on God mode.
Just slashing through loads of intrusive thoughts.
Like, fuck off.
Well, now I feel refreshed.
You've got a big sweat on and that.
I get outside.
And you know what, man?
Here's the thing that fucking kills me,
and this is the bit where...
Because here's the crux.
That isn't me.
This isn't who I fucking am, right?
This is the idea of who I want to be in my head,
because for some reason,
the deep inner me hates who I actually am,
and I've got this idea of what the perfect me is,
because, you know, I'll never be good enough for myself
for whatever fucking reasons
of my childhood
or fucking brain chemistry
or what fucking ever.
Every time I try and choose myself,
it's,
I'm just putting on makeup, man.
That's all I do in January.
I put on fucking makeup
and I go out
and pull a fucking hot guy
and then it gets to February
and I'm like,
I'm not putting makeup on anymore.
I can't be fucking arsed with this shit.
You're pumping the brakes.
You've still got to get back to being you.
You're just pumping the brakes, that's all.
Otherwise you'll get out of a slob.
And I think that's the fucking con
of all of these public speakers
and these self-help books.
I think there is a population,
I think there's a percentage of the population
in the same way there's a percentage of the population
who is better at football.
There's a percentage of the population who is better at football there's a percentage of
Population who have photographic memory, right? It's just this they've got the same in their head where they can just look at a page and it's memorized and they can go
Through that it's just a fucking never there are a small percent of the population who are able to change themselves, right?
But I don't think that's true for the rest of all and these fucking three percent of people who can change themselves and did change themselves
They just go and sell this fucking lie.
And this lie lasts a month, two months, three months.
But somebody bought the book.
Matt, we're all fucking human beings.
Like, eventually, like, you know, unless you're a fucking monk who's training fucking regularly to fully change your fucking lifestyle and your reaction to things.
Like, you know, the way we react to things happen over the years of our life it's i mean we've discussed this on the podcast before which
is you know it's like how rivers are formed the way you react to something is first a trickle
through some sand right and then the second time that sort of thing happens again the easy your
brain just goes oh this is the easiest route to that and over years and years and years you have
this gorge of this is how I cope with this thing.
And you get books like fucking, what's the one you were reading?
Tom and Cabot.
Talking about how you fucking change that thing.
And look.
Mushrooms is the answer for snowfall to fill the groove
so you can make new ones.
Take acid.
You think?
I reckon so.
I reckon that fires up new pathways in your brain that you can use.
I don't know.
I think if you're fucking stuck in your thought patterns, I reckon a good fucking know I think if you're if you're fucking stuck
in your thought patterns
I reckon
go and fucking
deal on the shrooms
sort it right out
I'm not a doctor
but just like
give it a shot
just give it a bash
what you're not going to
become a fucking airline pilot
so it's not going to
cost you a job
unless you did it work
I had a
I'm the opposite of you
when meditating
now when I sit down
and meditate
it's just fucking like
every now and again
a thought comes
and it's fine
I can just let it drift off
right
on New Year's Day
when we're here
I'd still try to keep
my habits up
even though like
it was
we're partying
drinking and all that
right
and I was like
I guess
the next day
I went
I've done most of my habits
yesterday
and I was like
oh
because I've done my work
I've done my fucking
cold shower
and all that
I didn't leave me
meditating
because I was running people all day and everything she just went aye my fucking cold shower and all that I didn't even need meditating because
I was around people
all day and everything
she just went
aye but I'm sure
there was five minutes
of the day when
there was nothing
in your head
yeah minimum
fucking bare minimum
aye I don't have
an internal bully leg
oh god yeah
I got this little hype man that comes in
I'm not a bully
It's me
It's the actual
I used to absolutely
Have a hype man in my head
And now that I'm 32 I realise it was delusion
It was 100%
Fucking delusion
Didn't let that guy go bud
I feel like I've trained that guy
because he was a bit too much.
No,
I,
upon reflection,
didn't fucking,
man,
don't get me wrong,
if I could have the fucking ego
that I used to have
in my 20s,
I'd love it for a fucking day.
Man,
I truly believe,
there was a point in my fucking life
where I truly believed
I was in like the top
fucking 50 comics of all time.
That was in my fucking head. I was like, there's no 32 I'm like hey I'm a successful comic and that's
more than I could have ever asked for what a fucking lucky situation don't be wrong I put
the effort and I fucking grafted but like this it's not as but what are you like you are to some
people yeah but not people I respect that's who listen to the podcast
uh huh
and they know
my feelings towards them
I've never
I don't think I've ever
pulled punches
so what like
do you want to be
in the top 50
or on the like
BBC top 100 list
like you want to be
in there
no
you want to be in there
while the mainstream guys
no no
I just
I don't know
but
like with comics as much as i as much as i
fucking miss the assuredness that i used to have in my own ability and who i was in the direction
i was going and this this infallible confidence in in me now that i'm older and i've you know i'm
i'm aware of my anxieties i'm aware of my fears i'm i'm aware of you know the things that i'm older and I've you know I'm aware of my anxieties I'm aware of my fears I'm aware of
you know the things that I'm scared of in the world and you know I'm like oh god I mean that
was because now and this is why I was when you get older you see it in fucking younger people
like everyone now that I see online who's screaming about how good they are and they're
the best at this I'm like oh buddy you're just shouting at yourself
that's all you're actually doing
you're not trying to convince the world
that you're this good
you're not telling everyone
you're trying to convince that voice
in the back of your head
that you're not
and I say just fucking
you know
I think
well I mean I feel
I think the goal is surrender
I think you just have to go
you know what I mean that's why everyone fucking talks about ego death I don't think I'm anywhere goal is surrender I think you just have to go you know what
I mean that's why everyone
fucking talks about ego death
I don't think I'm anywhere near that
I'm not claiming anything I'm doing
is spiritual in any way
but everyone talks about how ego death
is like one of the
most important things
in the world
at the moment I think I just have like
ego cancer
your ego's got a limp
yeah
yeah yeah
my ego's stubbed to its toe yeah yeah, yeah. My ego's stuck to its toe.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dead to the ego.
Yeah, yeah.
Under the weather.
Yeah, ego's got the rona.
I miss ego, but I don't,
but also,
I must have,
people must have fucking hated me
because I wasn't paying attention
to how other people fucking perceived me
because it didn't matter to me as much.
The self-awareness thing has got to be like,
it's got to be a pro and it's got to be a part of getting older.
You kind of take that person into your 40s for sure.
Like earlier on when we were talking about shooting the rhinos and all that,
right, I remember when I was working at the sports centre,
one of my mates was going to Thailand on holiday
and he was like, oh, it's classy, you can get a rocket launcher and shoot a cow.
And he was like, you can get a chicken
on the end of a fucking string and feed an alligator.
Like at the time, with no, like,
why would you want to do that in my head?
I'd be like, that's class, that!
Fucking hell, how much is it going out there?
1500 pun, man, if I start saving now.
By the time I'm 30, I could go and feed
a fucking alligator a chicken.
Now, if you were like, I'll pay you to feed a fucking alligator chicken new if you're like i'll pay it
i'll grab me i'll just i'll have the chicken myself and i'll turn that into a hand and i'll
fire the rock launch i just did a barrel that's so that's so make so like to did to have them
their moments like because that that guy he was he was having a lot of fun, and I was,
and he didn't have any fucking idea about implications and actions
and all that, right?
But I'm glad I'm not that guy anymore, you know?
So with that ignorance comes ego,
and comes fucking self-congratulation and thinking you're class.
So you have to lose a bit of that, I think, to just grow up.
Yeah.
But I still try to keep my hype man
with us and I try not to regret anything that I was
well yeah I think
there is an
important distinction to make
between self awareness
and self loathing
you can be self aware and be like
okay
I'm probably not
in the top 50 comics of all time.
But also that's fine.
That doesn't matter.
I have an audience that loves me.
I have a fucking career I never fucking dreamed.
But what you can't let that transfer into is,
you know, you're shit.
You're not good enough.
And I think there's a line there
that we're very bad at diagnosing ourselves.
Something to you that might feel like self-awareness
is actually self-loathing because
you're like oh i'm not good enough and and and i know that i know i'm not good enough it's in my
head that's me being self-aware i'm not good enough the way i'm self-aware that i'm not good
enough buddy that's not self-awareness that is part of you fucking hates yourself and you need
to get that sorted out yeah and it's that comparison the death of joy thing like it's
such a fucking cliched wank fucking poster
in a gym or whatever to the sunset.
But if you're talking about the top 50 and everything,
what does that get you?
I've heard every year the fucking comic comes out,
it would be nice to be a comedian's comedian
and for other comedians to respect what you do.
You go on stage, and I go on stage,
and people are laughing at every point
the way we want them to laugh
and we're been as good
as we could be
yet never in that conversation
but if you can just look at them
getting nominated
or whatever
in the fraternity
and just go
oh good for you
but like
also
I wouldn't look at you
like a threat
to me position
or like
I wouldn't
hate to follow you
like
you can look at that
and go
I still rate myself
as up there
I just maybe
haven't got the recognition from some people and that's fine because i just need to pass my own
judgment and more so the audience who's paid for tickets has got to pass their judgment and it
would be nice to be in that conversation by the newspapers by the industry by the fucking award
panel at the fringe but as long as you're getting up and doing your job and the people that bought
the tickets are laughing from beginning to end and you had a nice time on stage like is that not
enough yeah well also i don't i don't i i i think the industry especially in the uk is i don't
necessarily think it's dying but i think very old dead branches are falling off it and the tree
itself is changing uh not necessarily in a fucking bad way.
I mean, I know we've...
I saw a comedian who I've known for years,
like, love the guy.
He was comparing and he said to somebody
that was sat in the front row,
are you in show business?
And then he said no.
And then he went,
we'll get your feet off the stage then.
That was hack when I started.
Yeah yeah yeah
I've been doing it
For nearly 14 years
Stuart Francis
Sorry
Yeah
That's one of the oldest
Hackest jokes
That I mean
That's become
The punchline
Stuart Francis
Had a really good version
Of that
Which is
He was on stage
At the stand
And there's somebody
In the front row
And of course
Because it's Stuart Francis
There's like seven comedians
At the fucking back of the room
Just watching him
And he goes to someone in the front row
and he'll be like
are you in show business?
and their feet are on the stage
and they go no
and he goes
you should be
you've got lovely eyes
amazing
only the comics at the back laughing
only the comics laughing
everyone else being like
what a
what a weird
why is he flitting?
what a guy
unusual little moment
yeah
so funny
but that's like
that becomes the butt of the joke
is the day in the hack bit
in like Subvert
and it's still day in and out
you're like
oh just
yeah
you've had a flat tyre
for the last hundred miles
of the journey dude
like pull over
go to a service station
service the jokes
I get that
I
well I also think it's just
I mean it's so very
I now understand
that it's
so very silly to
in a subjective art form, to try and compare yourselves to others.
And also they're creating an industry that is largely unfair and has been unfair.
And it's unfair to different people at different fucking points in time.
It's changed who it's unfair to.
different people at different fucking points in time it's changed who it's unfair to um you know i do believe maybe now comedy is becoming a little bit of a meritocracy for the first time in years
because now it's no longer up to you know some fucking head of the bbc to decide what audiences
will find funny now thanks to fucking tiktok and instagram and stuff audience comedians like
fucking milo mccabe can now fucking directly instead of instead of the BBC being like oh we don't think this character
will work on television
and we obviously know
heaps of comedy despite
the fact that none of us
have stepped foot in a
comedy club in seven
years and none of us are
actually funny in
ourselves all we can do
is we just follow the
hype and then and then
we get that talent and
what we do is we
hamstring it as much as
we can but then attach
ourselves to it so any
of the talent that falls
off this falls onto us so we can feel part of the project it so any of the time that falls off this falls
onto us so we can feel part of the project you've now got people who are like oh well fuck this and
just get their audience right paul smith is the prime example of why every comedy exec in the bbc
should jump off the top of the fucking building themselves like it's um and i i and it's
interesting to see it go that way part of of me, man, I fucking really hope,
I really hope I'm right here.
I really hope that is the change that's going through
and there's this.
Oh yeah, self-productions.
Like I see a little panic from like agency
and producers and stuff like that
from how self-sufficient comedians can be
just because of like the easy access for video editing
and being able to self-promote on the internet and stuff like i feel like uh anybody in the industry really needs to fucking
step up with how much input have because like it should literally be them that are like fucking
now producing the clips and putting the clips out and stuff it shouldn't be left down in the
comic the day it really if uh if if there's producers involved. Yeah, but they just don't.
I think there's only like,
I think TV producers are a lot like journalists,
which is 5% of them are good and in it for the right reasons
and the rest are just in it
for their own version of attention.
I'd done something the other day
that every comic had to do,
but I found it quite healthy
how easy it was in the end.
I watched one of my shows back
and I was dreading doing it, right?
So my website should be live now.
I've been getting a new website done.
So when this comes out,
www.kaihunfries.com
should have my show Punch Drunk
and then all of my ticket links
for my new tour.
I'm going to be doing Manchester,
Liverpool, London,
Leicester and Glasgow.
I think that's it. But that's going to be on the front page will be my show for free that you can watch in my new
show which i'm touring which you can buy tickets for um but before i put the show online for free
i was like i better watch it back i recorded it in 2017 and i haven't watched it since i started
selling it in 2018 so what four years five years four and a bit um i really
braced myself for watching it back and i really liked it i was like i forgot about them jokes i
liked how i felt the story i liked the story itself i kicked myself that i missed a quite
obvious callback um that was the only time i was really brutal on myself was as a right hour when I was like, you told that fucking show a hundred times
and you didn't notice that, you fucking idiot.
But that's only because I didn't watch it back.
If I'd watched it back, I would have funded.
If I had brought myself to watch it back
in the creative process, I would have funded.
I don't know.
I think, no, I don't understand where you're coming from.
I don't necessarily think that's true though.
I think some of the time that it takes,
even if you were to watch the show back,
that's not taking a step back from the show.
You have to take a certain number of steps backwards
before you can see the whole thing and go,
ah.
And I think it's something
you would be able to fucking train into yourself.
But if that training process
is watching my stand up over and over again.
Because we do it when we write new jokes.
Man, I listen to,
the second I come off stage at the stand after doing a new 10, we write new jokes is man i listen to the second i
come off stage at the stand after doing a new 10 i get in my car and i listen to it fucking yeah
and realize it was a bit hurried of course slow it down or whatever um another thing that i was
like i didn't want to pick into myself too much because i like i really didn't find the process
of watching it back bad at all i like i enjoyed the show I'd honestly rather watch myself masturbate
like I'd
I would rather
go on fucking
Pornhub
and for whatever reason
find a fucking
video of me
masturbating
and see my own
cum face
but he'd have me
I'd be watching
he'd be like
oh look my abs
look right there
look at me left arm
I'm flexing those veins
on my bicep
fucking hell
three and a half minutes
everyone else
would just look at
that ugly grunting face
and I'm just like
right what's good about it
find the good stuff
focus on that
now there was
three moments
and three is too many
where I used the same
turn of phrase
which was
the fruits of your labour
oh god
that was a bit
like the third time it hit, I was like,
why do you keep saying that one?
Yeah.
Was it in a book that you read that day?
Is it just?
I've fucking no idea, mate.
I don't know.
It's not like I say it all the time in day-to-day life.
But it was, like, it was because of the audience that were in,
one of the people that raised the funds.
And when I showed the video of the fund,
I'm like, look at the FTSE labor.
And then, like like it was the fucking
Ricketts scratch card thing
where I was just like
now sit back
and enjoy
the fruits of his labour
like what the fuck
did you say that for
that's the fucking killer
like I guess
that's the point
where like
some people
some people
in a negative disposition
would watch that
and go
well I'm not putting
that on the internet
I can't put that out.
And also it's the thing of, as the artist,
nobody scrutinises your work as much as you do.
And I feel bad that I've pointed that out
because they may not have noticed.
If they got to watch it,
which I think the majority of these will have watched it anyway
because I put it free on Patreon when I started the Patreon,
I should stop telling people I did that
because they'll happily just not see it
But then now I said it
They can't unsee it, I've spoiled it for them
Shattered the glass
We're going to answer everyone's questions now
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