Sloss and Humphries On The Road - Accidentally Woke (Ft. Elliot Steel)

Episode Date: August 8, 2024

The podcast sets up shop in an artist bar deep in the heart of the Edinburgh fringe. Does this mean Elliot Steel will tone it down because he is surrounded by industry? The answer is no. He's quite happy to let career doors close for light entertainment. Watch as they publicly unpack the riots in England and the social media response to women's olympic boxing. #37 Elliot Steel: Soft Boi Core 21:45 Underbelly: Buttercup. Bristo Square   www.thistlycrosscider.co.uk Discount Code: THISTLYSLOSSAUGUST

Sloss and Humphries on the road! Muggins and cream, creaming muggins, straight thugging, living the dream And that's our intro Fucking muggles! Tickling the clit inside your head that makes you laugh Woohoo! Hahaha! They said it can't be done!

Are we in the same seats? That's hack! Oh, muggles! Accidental rim job in the park Kiss kiss kiss Or am I just being cynical? Just muggled it up on fucking Mugglepedia Where have you been since 9-11?

Cheers, Elliot. Cheers, good to see you, mate. The fringe is up and running. Oh, it very much is. We've set up a little studio in an artist bar. Oh, people. Full of industry. Yeah.

And we're going to find out if me and Elliot talk the same way in front of our Piaz colleagues and people who could present an opportunity to what we do when we're just recording in a hotel room. Yeah, it's annoying that this is in the artist bar because I just want to say that I'm gutted I'm at the Fringe and I'm missing out on a race wall. I kicked off in Sunderland.

I knew cars were going to try and do it better. Well, I was, like, for the first time, had, like, empathy for the people of Sunderland where I was, like, they feel misrepresented, but not in that way not in that that was a bad way to get into this for the first time I felt I felt empathy for them they're having a race war I saw them as humans for the first time I've really felt for the people that don't think like that in Sunderland, being misrepresented by the trash of their society. Yeah.

Who, like, by all accounts have been shipped in as well. Like, you know, it's not necessarily the thoughts of the people of Sunderland. No. But, like, there'll be people who are just standard bucks standard scummy Maccams and they'll be head and hand going the fucking

Jordies are going to be using this against her and then there was talk that there was going to be one in Newcastle as well

and I'm fucking I'm just scared to look because what are they going to demarche on St. James's Park like fucking it's owned by Saudis

yeah it's owned by Muslim ownership well it's like what theis yeah it's owned by Muslim ownership well it's like what the fuck like what kind of you can't expect them to put like

two and two together with stuff like this because they're fucking idiots two and two together and stuff like that and actually you find your like hardcore it becomes really

complicated subjects like your people like Tommy Robinson and that they don't actually mind the Saudis and all of these sort of people

because they're like well they've got their air in it you know like Islam and like the Middle East conflict comes like such a dichotomy of, like, you know, nobody, you go to the Middle East,

and it's like, nobody hates Muslims more than the Muslims who live next door to them from this tribe and that tribe, you know what I mean? Yeah, it's like Seneca and Rensis over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like,

they're like, those people, hey, we're fine, but those people down the road, they're subhuman scum. And you're like, what the fuck? Like, it's a different... And it's just a lot of, like, people just picking what suits their agenda so that they can go on ahead with their agenda right now.

Like, the amount of people, sorry to pivot, but the amount of people that have been accidentally woke by screaming on that this woman who was born a woman and lived as a woman in a country where it was illegal to be trans should be a man and you're like that's that's not the argument that you've been doing up until this point you just thought that was a man for a second decided to fucking gone after her and then and then fucking found out that you were wrong and still doubled down well that's what's interesting about the culture now you're doubling down as being accidentally woke yeah but that's what people do, isn't it, now?

It's like, and I say this in my show, like, the culture war, like any war, it's an economy and people profit off war, okay? So the war serves a purpose, and the purpose is your people, like your Tommy Reminsons, your Andrew Tates, they're right-wing grifters, but you've got left-wing grifters as well.

Fucking some of them are doing shows up here at the Fringe. Like, you'll meet these people who are, like, super, but I'm a feminist, and then you find out they're not allowed to be left alone with the bar staff you know what i mean like so you you have these people you can never trust anybody that'll like this is what a feminist looks like as a guy yeah yeah yeah i cover your drinks around them and that that was sorry what was i saying that that thing that i find with the cultural war is like i don't think anyone actually believes the points they're saying. They're saying it exactly like you're saying,

because it suits their agenda at the current time for that purpose, to piss off the other side. So you saw this. Do you remember this comedian, Jordan Gray? She's transgender, and she did a bit on a Channel 4 show that was live where she played the piano with her cock, right? And suddenly... I remember that.

Everyone in comedy switched. So everyone who was like the right with her cock, right? And suddenly... I remember that. Everyone in comedy switched. So everyone who was like the right-wing side, that TV doesn't push boundaries anymore. It's too safe. You know, they're not putting anything on that pushes... All of a sudden they were trying to put cancel culture on her. You shouldn't be doing this. We're a Christian country.

This is disrespectful. And all the woke people who were like, hey, you know know comedy should punch up we shouldn't be were like hey comedy's meant to push boundaries it's meant to do

and everyone swiped sides and you go oh none of you actually believe this thing none of you actually have a thought that you believe

you're just on your side and when it suits your team and that's I've been really trying hard and I mean because I've always been quite outspoken most on Facebook because I'm speaking to people in Blythe

It's always been me private Facebook profile now. It's not it's gone now. It's public now and but like for instance the The lads that got battered by the police in Manchester Airport I saw that through one particular lens where they were just abused And then it was like days later cctv come out where like square punched the female officer in the face yeah

before that kicked off yeah and without that context like it looked like race here yeah you know and uh and then i was just like i was gutted by the treatment still like the way they were manhandled still outlawed but fucking kept me so quiet because I was like fuck man there's different angles to this and I'm getting one of them because I've got my own little echo chamber of social media and I don't think you should have kicked him in the head yeah but I do believe that you fuck around you find out rather than wait dead at the cops man I've this is dated but I've kicked people in the heat for punching women yeah yeah yeah yeah take you to the equation that it's a cop yeah I'd kick

a cunt in the heat if you punched a woman yeah yeah yeah 100% because they how do you like getting bullied and and as well like remember with

the police they can abuse you and he'll get away with it that's the point they're a gang fuck with the mafia you'll find out but don't you

think it's funny how then all the Tommy Robinson lot who were cheering him for kicking that guy in the head are now like the police are abusing us because we've turned up. We've turned up to a memorial for children who've been murdered with cans. Made a day out of it.

They made a day out of it. They're trying to lick the ear off. Got a bag in. Imagine going, oh, you're going to the memorial later for the kids. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Three for 100. Like, what are you doing? You sickos.

You're just watching people going full circle on their fucking standards. Like, on a dime. Man, do you not feel this? And you're like, you're definitely a member of the British working class. I'm for working class, right? I support the British working class until I ever have to work with the British working class. Like, if I ever have to hire the working class, I suddenly find myself going, I'm one of them when I've got a trade in my house.

I don't know anything about cars. No mechanic's going to try and bump us. They think I know about cars because of how I sound. We had a guy come around and do the decking, right? He sounded as, and he was like, I've just got back from Benidorm I was like Benidorm's class innit he was like

yeah yeah you've been we were both talking about Tenerife and I was like how long can I keep this up but they weren't

watching Albi Senior ironically they were enjoying his jokes that's the difference this is what they do when people find out you do comedy

do you know that Paul Smith that's find out you do comedy do you know that Paul Smith oh yeah that's like the working class hero do you know that Paul Smith yeah yeah

Paul Smith and Bridges they've really connected Bridges yeah Paul I find Paul is it's mad because like Paul can walk out there

in like a Rolex like a Spenny watch he'll probably wear a Patek Philippe or something like something Spenny watch you'll probably wear a patek philippe or something like something spenny and they're cool with it but then if mcintyre did that people would be a bit

like oh my yeah because the way they'd think with mcintyre is that he always had that money but then if they see paul smith with a watch on they'll be like i got i got that laddie's watch there'll be a bit of a connection where the legs are could i chipped in on that with a ticket ceiling i actually wanted him to have that watch whereas if you see somebody that's like fucking I got that laddies watch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There'll be a bit of a connection where they're like, I chipped in on that with a ticket sale. I actually wanted him to have that watch. Whereas if you see somebody that's like fucking posh London, you just say,

he would have had that watch anyway. Yeah, yeah. That's the one thing I've never been able to get into his watches. The other day I was with a mate. Wasted on me. I was with a mate of mine

who has a Rolex and he said, go and put it on. Actually, I felt like I was holding a newborn baby. I was scared. I was like, how much was this? And he told go and put it on I actually felt like I was holding a newborn baby I was scared I was like how much was this

and he told me how much it was and I put it on and it didn't look good but I did go like I feel powerful like I wanted to I feel like I'd feel such I'd have such imposter syndrome with a good watch on because people would then start talking to you about

watches and you'd know fuck all. Like, you know, have you ever worn a T-shirt because you like the T-shirt but you realise it's part of a subculture? Like, I had a Norton motorcycle T-shirt just because it was a good fit and it looked good and it was a nice make. I bought it when I was in New York, right,

with this Norton motorcycle. The amount of fucking people who were into motorcycles that wanted to talk to me about motorcycles because I was wearing a Norton t-shirt and you think you're not going to get bumped by a mechanic not when I wear that t-shirt not when I have like a couple of seconds with us so

I what I was getting back to that point I really tried to just observe everything before I fucking come waiting with a point new because there's a narrative for everybody and you just really don't want to just... And you can't help it.

You've got your own bias. You've got your own way you want it to play out. Yeah. So you can't help stick your own bias to it. So when you get the thing that suits your narrative, just don't grab onto it with both hands yet. Just tiptoe around it. Check around the back.

Have a look at everything from every angle before you fucking like decide but but there is like with these people who are out there doing the writing and all of that stuff right and i do i don't want to go like how much at some point because like part of me goes look white working class people in this country have been shat on like there's no ifs or buts about it right the government the government does fuck all for them they've imposed this they've had austerity imposed on them the the schools the libraries everything shut down so like you will know someone from an area who is as switched on and as clever as anyone you've ever met doesn't have the the confidence and the opportunity of someone who goes to private school right so they just come up you know a cabbie or something like that. Not that there's a shame in that, but they don't...

Yeah, there's no opportunity. And also your education's working against you because you've had a shit school. Yeah. So to expect these people to... These people, and I kind of feel sorry for them in a way, like they're angry and they're trying to let out their anger. And the thing that happens is people like Farage and Tommy Robinson,

like it's a grift, it's a cultural war. Like Nigel Farage isn't going to help working class people. Like he's an old school conservative. Old school. He doesn't believe in a national health service. He does not want to help the working class. But he has a way of speaking where he can get through to these people. He is, and don't misquote me on this, he's a phenomenal politician.

Like he's a phenomenal politician. Like, he's a phenomenal politician. I don't agree with him. Clip that, Matthew. Clip that. But he is. He's the most effective politician in the last 40 years in Britain. He's got everything he's wanted.

But has he not just... He's got Brexit. I'm saying he's like... Do you know what he's like? He's like a footballer you hate, but he's good at their job. You know what I mean? Like a Robbie Savage?

No, he's better than Robbie Savage. He's like Karim Benzema. Oh, because he was a bad man. Yeah, he's a bad man, bro. And he was a prick on the pitch. Did he not? I mean, I'm going off clickbait. Did he not try to bribe one of his teammates with revenge porn

blackmail to blackmail money out of him otherwise he'll release these videos that have come out of his hands and then that's why

he never played for France in a lot of tournaments when he was the fucking main striker loads of them yeah he just imagine like

if I was a footballer and I was just making that money do you know how much a good time I'd be having I wouldn't be blackmailing people you'd like to play

football with on a weekend I would just what the fuck we're going back to Farage and all these people they stir up these

points and they speak to the world class community in a way where no affected Keir Starmer can't come out and go listen we've had

austerity imposed in these areas and stuff and all of this, because he's got to make budget cuts. So that's why someone on the fringes of politics is able to stir these people up and galvanize them and get them to do this stuff, because the system itself that we're in, nobody can come out. Imagine the Prime Minister come out and went, look, I have to get millions

of pounds to run for office, so I've got to make deals with business. So I've got to do some fucking tax cuts. That ain't going to work in your business. So I've got to do some fucking tax cuts. That ain't going to work in your favor. Have you been watching House of Cards? No. Just lobbyists. Yeah.

Lobbyists, this is how you're spending the money. Did you watch that show? To a point. How did it get on after Spacey? I didn't watch it after that point. Ah, yeah. Ah, yeah. He's been, for me, one of the hardest people to separate the man from the art because he fucking shits gold in everything he's in.

He's phenomenal. It's hard not to watch him now and go, well, he's just playing himself. He's just playing a fucking bastard in everything that he's in. You know his dad was a Nazi? Is that right? Yeah, I think so. His dad was a Nazi and molested him a load or something.

Don't know if that helps you. Yeah, poor guy. I get all these points now. I should be his lawyer. I don't know if that helps you. Yeah, poor guy. Poor guy. I get all these points now. I should be his lawyer. I've got this. Say there was a Nazi and he got molested. Let's all chill.

Yeah. I can consider it. I've produced some pretty good for a baby driver. How many people do you know group got raised by a Nazi? I go, your honour, can we look at evidence B? And the screen comes down

and it's just like, he's so real. I go, hey, talented. Yeah, seven. He was pretty convinced

in seven. Oh, just because he was being himself. The audience just go, ooh, he's got a point. So,

you know, these guys that are marching on mosques and all that, right? How do they watch American History X? Probably on telly. Do they watch it... They probably watch it on the telly. But do they watch it on a point of view that, like, Derek Vinyard come out of prison woke?

Yeah, probably. Do they see a completely different film? I guess... Do you think... Do they say a completely different film? I guess, I don't, but do you think, do they say the growth arc? American History X is actually quite

like an art house film in a way. It's not like, I put off watching that because I just didn't, like I protected myself from it.

Because I heard about the Kerbs Homestead, I heard about the prison rape scene, and I was just like, I don't know if I want and I was just like I don't know if I want to

watch that I really don't think I want to watch that and then like when I was just went on a drive watching a bunch

of films and taking recommendations just like recommend a film like I've never seen anything so people were recommending Pulp

Fiction you know what I mean and that one come up loads American History X and I was like right I'm going

to give this film a chance instead of just fucking like you know if you're in a WhatsApp group with some degenerates and someone sends a beheading video, you're not watching that fucking video, right?

I'd kind of done that and then watched it back and didn't realise how much of a fucking good public comment, social commentary that film was. Yeah, it's very artistically done, but I think you assume those people watch that film. They don't watch films like that you've got to have a level of like understanding you you want to have an understanding or something about the world that's why like films and art are important because you can watch

something that can change your view on something you know like schindler's list like and you have to be seriously anti-semitic to watch schindler's List. If you're anti-Semitic and you're either going to go, that's a lie. So do you think anti-Semitic people will watch Schindler's List as propaganda? I think they'll watch it

and be like, that never happened. Oh, they'll just never watch it. That's how it never went down. They're probably not going to watch it because I didn't watch the Tommy Robinson video where he was fucking galvanizing

these people. Because, man, I've seen people sharing that. You know how I was saying when fucking Facebook's gone gone i've got like a friends list of like 5 000 and then followers after that but i'll running a gig just accepting friend requests because i want to put tickets to people right so i've just got these 5 000 people that i don't know that's me capped limit of people who are also saved there's people who see me post that I don't see, but then there's also these people that got in before I hit the cap. The amount of people that shared that Tommy Robinson video,

and I've never watched it. I'm not giving that cunt me fucking eyes. But in the same way I'm not watching that, they're probably not watching. Yeah, they're not going to watch American History. But the thing with that, everyone sharing that Tommy Robinson video and stuff, is it's just...

I don't know... He's not even called Tommy Robinson. Stephen Yaxley. Stephen Yaxley Lennon. Yeah. Tommy Robinson was the leader of the Luton Migs football firm, and he used the name. But he's... Is that just because it sounds like a more rounded British name? He's got a brand. Tommy Robinson actually comes from a bit of money, man.

His stepdad was a plumber in Bedford who owned a business. But he'll play that. My dad's a plumber. Yeah, yeah, yeah. His family had a bit of money and stuff. He isn't... He's off his face on gear all the fucking time.

He doesn't make us like him. I'll do a line with Tommy Robinson. Could you imagine trying to get a word in when he told me Robinson's okay? Yeah, because the thing you don't

understand, mate, is what's going on in this society. And you're just there like, oh, I'll just pass us the bag. I don't think I

could fucking switch off the intrusive thoughts that would go, start swinging. I fucking, I would swing on a minute of a conversation. I fucking guarantee it. Oh, he's such a fucking, would swing on a minute of a conversation I fucking guarantee it

he's such a fucking he's such a fucking he's somebody that needs kicked the fuck yeah but he's been kicked the fuck before he's not he's

what's amazing about him is like and again like British people's like but the English attitude of we never have to learn anything about anything

there is this like pride in ignorance with English people. And it's when he got sent to jail, because he went to the court, guys, I'll make documentaries now. And he went up there with a camera and started filming outside the court and the defendants, and their names hadn't been released yet. So they were like, you're jeopardizing the entire case. That's illegal.

What you've just done is illegal. You can't do that. So you have to go to prison for it because you have broke several laws to do with things that i don't understand but you can't film inside courts when they haven't released the names of people so we had to go to prison so it was like they're protecting the paedophiles of it you're like no they're not you fucking idiot do you think the british government is sat there going we better protect these pedophiles do you think that's how it's spoken truth nobody nobody in parliament brings up what i say and it's like yeah because you're a right-wing fuck and this is where like people like tommy robinson whenever they can't drift into mainstream politics because he just embarrasses himself when he has to come up against anything that's like

reasonable like anyone who's like reasonable. Like anyone who's like an actual politician or anything would be able to sit down and dismantle him so quickly. If you ever watch podcasts with Tommy Robinson, he's really good at speaking over people and having like the odd good point. But like the minute it was,

the minute he had to sit with someone. On an intellectual level yeah he would be taken apart he would beat me in a podcast I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about

you know what I mean if I sat down with Tommy Robinson we'd probably end up talking about Stone Island yeah you it's

I've would you fuck get talked down by him because like you're just emotional intelligence would be enough to fucking see you through

with the morals of life. You wouldn't need a great deal about politics to talk to someone about ethics. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll try to make him

swing for me. Try to make him I'll never let him punch first. No. Nah. He's 5 foot 6, bro. He's not landing a glove, mate.

He's 5 foot 6. Before he knows he's in a fight. He's 5 foot 6. This is what I think. Tommy Robinson, man, why are we letting someone who's 5'6", right, lead people? On like a serious level, right?

Napoleon did a good job, mate. But he wasn't small. That's British propaganda. Is that true? Yeah, he wasn't small. Can't take him up and measure him. He was like complete... Take a take him up and measure him. He was like complete... Take a bunch of drugs and eat him,

can't try and dig up the pool here. Why do we need to take drugs? What do you think that's going to... When we get arrested, that's going to get him... I can't throw on my coke, look my dears. How do you think I've got a dog?

He's got a... His tomb is made in a way so you're either always looking up or you're always bowing down. Like, it's like designed to be that you're always paying respect to them. Where is he kept? Somewhere in France, I imagine. You reckon so?

Do they still like him? I don't know much about... I know... What was it? After the French Revolution... So the French had the... It's like classic revolution. We got rid of the thing.

What do we replace it with? And then everyone fell out with each other. And then Napoleon was able to use that he was a general and then he was able to seize power over France and kind of came

like a dictator incredible like character though got exiled and came back and his troops were told to shoot him and he like stood

in front of his troops and he went you're gonna shoot me I'm your commander you love me and like they all just put their guns down and were like

yeah they were like, yeah. They were like, we love this guy. Like, that is, that is baller. Like,

that is baller. Was that after the Wacking Phoenix film? That actually happened. Did it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they like, went to stop him

and like, they were told like, if he comes in, you are to shoot him. And he was there like, I'm your general, I'm your commander. You fight for me. Like, I got a bit of love for that. Oh, but you got to respect him and he was there like I'm your general I'm your commander you fight for me

like I got a bit of love for that you've got to respect that to some level do they have you know all these historical figures there will be

like a burial place for them like you know even going as far back as Caesar is there a Caesar grave where the yeah Caesar's palace

Caesar's palace it was in Vegas where he wanted to be buried in Vegas class where he wanted to be buried. It's in Vegas. Class. It's where he wanted to be buried. I think I made a dance to his grave when I went to an opponent.

Looks like you left. Imagine that's why there was Caesar's Palace. He just wanted to be buried. And he's like, in 2,000 years, trust me, this is the place to be. No,

Karl Marx has his grave in London. I think it's in like London I think it's in like I think it's in like fucking Primrose Hill or something Saville had a big memorial fucking thing

in Leeds they would have took that to him yeah they should have kept it just to remind us no but this is the thing everyone goes

don't tear down statues they're to remind us of our history I mean if you're in that camp, like, that is a very valid argument for 2020.

When people were saying that, you'd be like, I didn't put the Savile Statue back on there. Yeah, go on. I don't, I think like,

I think history is so complicated. Like, like Churchill, right? Churchill was a bad guy. Yeah, like a genocidal. Genocidal.

But he was great in World War II, so what he means to different people is a different thing, and that's life. Do you know what I mean? What do you need when you're fighting Hitler as a genocidal guy? Yeah, and not only that, like, to be fair, here's what you need when you fight Hitler. Stalin.

And that's who was on his side. And FDR. Like playing your Pokemon, just going, oh, you think you're a buddy? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're like, that's buddy. Like, and they, you know,

I think Churchill, like the importance of England in the war is overstated. I think it's important, but like they were never going to beat America and Russia. The combination of that was insane. Like absolutely insane. Now, where you would have had to, if Britain had got invaded,

where you would have launched to fight Hitler, to free Western Europe, would have been a different thing. So it was important, but, you know what I mean? Have you seen the Norm Macdonald routine about Germany? It took over the world. It went to war with the world. Who are you going to fight next? Mars?

Yeah. I don't know. Churchill, when people tear down his statue, and when it's liberal people trying to do that, I'm like, look,

you're just trying to piss those people off. You're just trying to let them have their fucking statue, man. Just don't go look at it. Like, why? Why are you going to go look at it?

I'd start your time with a Hitler. Like, no. I'm you going to go look at it? Which statue are we talking about? A Hitler statue? Like, no, like... I don't want a Hitler statue. I'd love a Hitler statue. You'd love one? I think there should be one. Shut up.

Why not? Why so? Well, he's an important historical figure. Is that what we're doing with statues? It's just important historical figures? Well, you know, it's just like, why shouldn't he get one? Why is there still a Hitler badge?

Why shouldn't there be a Hitler statue? What are you doing about that? You could just write a nice... You don shouldn't there be a Hitler statue? What are you doing? You could just write a nice... You don't have to write a nice thing about him. I think you've got to put up a statue with, like, fucking good faith at the time, where you're like... At the time, you think this is an important person

that made the world a better place. You put the statue up, and then, like... And then when the fucking history reveals itself and you have that conversation then you go right do a leave it up

a take it down right like that's the bit where they're like history history right you don't know all of the facts

and then put up a statue for a guy that's just part of history I think we just you know I think he should get a little

he doesn't have to have like I'm not saying there's Nelson's column in the artist bar I'm like is Elliot Steele going. In the artist bar, I'm like, is Elliot Steele going to talk the very same way

that he talks when we're just locked in a hotel room and he's just shouting up in front of all of our colleagues, all of the industry, let's put up a statue of Hitler. And then I go, why don't I get booked for TV? Subscribe now on Patreon for the stuff that we don't have the balls to say on the public episode.

Why wouldn't you have a statue of him? He's an important historical figure. They made dirt. Like, I figure if anybody... We'll put it somewhere he wouldn't like. Israel? Yeah. So Elliot Steele

wants to put up a Hitler statue in Israel. Is that the conclusion that was made? Everyone could go spit on it and stuff. I'm not saying you have to go there and lay a wreath. You can treat it the way you want to treat it. You can treat it like Greyfriars Bobby. Go rub his moustache and give him good luck. Bring him a stick.

Robbie, go rub his moustache and give him good luck. Bring him a stick. I mean, when people try... It's like when people tore down the Colston statue in... Bristol? Yeah. Colston was evil. That entire, like... So much of Bristol is named after him,

and the guy was like a slaver. It's like, yeah, don't... Like, I get why you tear that down. Oh, you fucking... Of course you do. Like, you know, if I'm, like, yeah, don't... Like, I get why you tear that down. Oh, you fucking... Of course you do. Like, you know, if I'm, like, fucking... If I'm going back to Blythe and there's a fucking statue for Thatcher in the middle of fucking

Blythe, I'm fucking absolutely bringing that down. Man, should I tell you... The people are going to take that down the minute you put it up. Now, like... Should I tell you how weird London's got, right? Speaking of Thatcher. So... I have this joke, like. Should I tell you how weird London's got, right? Speaking of Thatcher. So, I have this joke, and I used to do it years ago.

I forgot I did it, and I brought it back because it works in a bit. One of those jokes, right? You go, oh, it works in a bit. When my dad was diagnosed with cancer, we're both like, we don't have the kind of relationship where we hug and stuff. The last time me and my dad hugged

was when Thatcher died, right? Did you actually, like, celebrate, like, Palace had just got promoted? Oh, when Thatcher died. Right? Did you actually, like, celebrate? Like, Palace had just got promoted. Oh, when Thatcher died, I was in sixth form. My dad rang me. My dad rang me. He was like, she's fucking dead. Like?

Joyful. Joyful. I still feel like, like, I get that. There's still something a bit macabre about it. Yeah, 100%. But, like, fuck her. You know what I mean? Yeah, hi.

Oh, yeah, the knock-on effects of, 100%, but like, fuck her, you know what I mean? Yeah, hi. Oh yeah, the knock-on effects of like fucking my life from her, and I didn't like, I wasn't really there, I wasn't really there for it, I was a child for it

and all that shit, like for the back end, I guess. But like, I know that like, my life is worse because of her, I was,

I fucking, I mean, I've clearly, turned it out right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she destroyed communities.

The start I got in life without having any industry in my community and without having any fucking transport links because they left with the industry and just being in this little fucking mothball society where nobody's got any money and the fucking high street's dead and the working men's clubs are dead because there's no workers anymore and all that. Oh, destroyed the mining communities.

Yeah, so I'm from the communities that were fucking affected by her. Yeah, I get that. So especially for your dad if he lived through that. Yeah, yeah, he's constant. communities uh-huh yeah so i'm from the communities that were like fucking affected by her yeah i get that like fucking so it's like especially for your dad if he lived through that yeah yeah he's kind of sad but then so i'll do that joke in london right you used to get lost now because like the kind of people who moved to london are these sort of home counties they all work in finance they all live in clapham get coffee like they're just and they're like copy pasted to the same person right copy like you go to a comedy club, you do that joke and it goes like, no, we shouldn't

really joke. And I'm like, you're not a fucking liberal. If you're a liberal, you know what I mean? The fact that liberal people I know listen to Alistair Campbell's podcast. That guy's a war criminal. Who is that guy? He was the spin doctor

for the Iraq war. He was Tony Blair's right-hand man. I kind of believe that they used to actually title it spin doctor as well. Yeah. Imagine you cheated on your girl and then lied about it. And you went, no, I'm not a liar. I'm a spin doctor. Gaslighter.

I'm a spin doctor, baby. I'm spin doctor. I'm doing my cheating. I'm spinning it. People would... Do you know what's funny? I know, babe. I was just keeping the wolf away from the gate. I've been a bit of a husband

since I if it turned out Alistair Campbell gaslit his wife people would be more angry about that than he did in gaslighting us

and going into an illegal war killing like a million people and never apologising for it that's the state we're in with things his kids did a fringe show

yeah I'm not if I speak I'm in trouble. Oh, because we're in an artist bar? No, no, no, no. People know my opinion on that. I try not to have any... She blocked me on Instagram, innit?

Because I did a bit about her dad and put it up. And she blocked me on Instagram and stuff. And is she... Does she align with her dad? No, she doesn't really have any opinions on anything. It's quite amazing, actually, to watch someone come from such an incredibly historic political background

and have absolutely nothing to say on anything. I mean, I don't know. You don't ask to be born, right? You don't ask what you're born into. I've been lucky with the situation I was born into, like with my family that raised us right. I feel like they've done a good job of raising us

but like if I had to like fucking come out of being raised by somebody that fucking is reprehensible like you can't have that

like you can't be held to account for that no I'm not saying held to account but I've watched like routines we did in the same

comedy club and I watched a routine during a cost of living crisis that was all about her buying her dog a Prada collar so it's just

out of touch and I was sat there like just gobsmacked like so I'm in Soho house I'm in

and it's just like so she's she's actually loving the financial kickback of I was just there like I was just there like there's actually loving the financial kickback of our I was just there like I was just there like there's people who

can't put the heating on and you're up here like doing a routine about Prada dog collars and and your dad should be at the Hague

and what that's not her fault all the power to like genuinely all the power to her like good for her she's good at what she does

she sells her things I'm not knocking her as a comic you know people like does she have a fan base or is she yeah yeah yeah she's huge

huge huge and is her fan base from people that like her dad no her fan base is from like like I see a lot of like

liberals or women go to it and stuff but there's just this facade of liberalism now. I think people are liberal because of office culture. They're not actually liberal. They're liberal because they have to be because they have to walk into the office paint this face of themselves. Nobody can have an actual opinion. So like the girl I'm seeing at the moment

like whenever she tells me about things about the office culture and all of this, I'm like wow this sounds horrible. Like everyone has to to paint on but these people aren't actually liberal they're not liberal people they've come from the home counties like they've come from like money they've come for these but liberalism it to them is like doing the recycling you know what i mean bringing the fight yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah going to go to prom but pride month is sponsored fucking lucky martin had a float at pride yeah the arms dealers the arms dealers and you go oh thank god thank god our cruise missile has a rainbow flag on it as we drop it on oh thank you for defending my freedom from that

yemeni wedding like i'm glad i'm glad was a, I'm glad you wrote love is love as it landed on a school in Baghdad. And then they just take all the rainbows down at the end of the month and just go back to normal. Yeah. It's all just like what you're saying, the office culture is all just like the box ticking and the like-

It's performative. Performative. It's not, it's like, look, I am liberal. I'd probably say some choice words that i shouldn't say every now and then you know because i'm a human being i feel like we're liberal but we're we won't sense ourselves and we will say things that are controversial just because they're funny it's called vulgar left vulgar left yeah so it's like a it's like a version of the left where you're like you know i i think like i didn't realize i didn't realize we had a pigeon hole that was slotted in.

I'm a bit sad about it. I felt unique. You're part of a group, man. I felt like a unique little snowflake. No, it's fine. And we're probably wrong on everything.

To be like, I will say the most horrendous thing that's possible in this time, but it's not my true beliefs. Yeah. You know, like I'll, it's, it's,

it's sometimes when you say something on a podcast or something on stage, that would have killed on the WhatsApp because everybody knows your call everybody knows who you are to your call so they're going to let you say that

because nah it's not you it's just your fucking hard ball and overhand something that you shouldn't be doing they're like whoa

then you're doing it on stage to a bunch of people that don't know you and they're like is that him you're like that's not me

yeah it's finding that line I have to be careful with it because of how I look and how I sound so I have to be really careful with because of how I look and how I sound so I have to be like really careful

with treading line and when I get it wrong oh man I did it the day man really I did an afternoon show the day and done the

I mean I think I guess the majority of people on the podcast have seen me older stuff but I was doing a showcase show in the afternoon to try to sell tickets

for my show did some old material so that if people come to my show then I'll get the new one. I've done the one about baiting the guy who wasn't a pedo in my estate, Pedo Terry.

I've done that bit and everybody just felt for the poor man on my estate. I got terrorized by children and everybody just went cold on us and I won them back. They ducked out for that bit. Not everybody.

It didn't bomb. There was enough... You could feel the gig dip. There was enough people laughing that I'm out there buying tickets and coming to my show. out for that bit yeah not everybody it didn't bomb the there was a note there was a you could feel the gig dip there was enough people laughing that I know they're buying tickets and coming to me show right but at least what I did is I felt that and I made sure that there's people in that audience that got to see what stand up I do and they're not gonna buy tickets and fucking make me make me solo show bomb because they're gonna be shocked by the way I talk yeah I just did that room split a moment where I was like,

should have probably tailed out into the room, but also you made sure that you're not getting the wrong people in your, your thing. Yeah. It's a two o'clock short presence. I've had, I've had some, uh,

when I get it wrong, the suicide routine to get that right. Took a while. That's, that's probably one of my best bits ever. Then, uh, the, the, the good bits take a little while to get right,

to get the tone of it right. You need to pick up what I'm putting down here. I know it's funny. I just need to translate it to you in a bit that you think it's funny. It sometimes takes a couple of runs at it. Yeah, I got a bit at the minute where I say, I talk about someone calling me a f***.

Right? Beep that. they're not gonna know what take a wild guess this is what kind of black this is the set it the set horror and uh

and uh I did I have like this joke about it and it's like cause like last year at the Fringe I kissed a boy and like to the point there's things about that happening and I go have like this joke about it and it's like because like last year at the Fringe I kissed a boy

and like to the point there's things about that happening and I go I'm so stunned because I've never been called that word homophobically before

I've been called it I'm out with my boys and I've blown on my food because it's a bit hot and it always like gets a laugh because I think people can tell like

everyone gets there's like this funny thing where like anyone like girls go you've said that word to your mate like you've

you've done it you've done it do you know what I mean it's wrong sure whatever but you can stop it do you know what I mean

like everyone has done that to a point where I think there's like this funny little admission where we all go I've been there

with my mates and I've done something where they've just used the word I yelled it on stage once oh yeah this was great it was Jojo Sutherland was doing a jokes for I've been there with my mates and I've done something where they've just used the word. I yelled it on stage once. Oh yeah, this was great. It was Jojo Sutherland was doing a joke,

what was it called, joke theme? Joke theme, yeah. So everybody goes on in the first half and does their set. And then you're quickly scribbling away, trying to remember what they said. And it's a bit like a game of the generation game where you're just like, you've got to copy the thing that you've just seen.

And then you go on and you swap each of those routines and one of her jokes was my son was in the Navy I didn't even know he was gay and then I went my son was in the Navy and then just took

a massive deep breath and yelled it did it kill? absolutely absolutely they were fucking mate I filled me lungs yeah I filled me lungs to shout it that's so funny I'm so fucking loopy. They were fucking... Mate, I filled me lungs.

Yeah. I filled me lungs to shout it out. That's so funny. Because I wasn't saying it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just going, that's what she's doing. And it said,

I was technically saying it. Fuck, that's so funny, man. You could have heard it inside the venue. Really? And did you notice how I didn't repeat it in the audience? No, no, no. Everyone ran up and went, what's up?

Can any fucking get you? Could you imagine having, I have to speak to my agent later about why I'm banned from Abattoir. She's like, what happened? What are we doing a podcast? And we screamed homophobic slurs. You know about Danny,

who mentioned Albie Senior earlier. For anyone that didn't know who I was talking about, it's a racist comedian that wears a full union, skinhead guy, well, bald. I don't think he's skinhead optionally. No, no, yeah. Wears a big union jacket, just does racist jokes, right?

And one of the jokes was, I think it was something about like an apple a day keeps the doctor away. Not my doctor, he's a Muslim. Bacon sandwiches a day keeps my doctor away, right? Fucking's a Muslim a bacon sandwich a day keeps my doctor away right fucking everyone's dying laughing

because that's the audience in Benidorm right and we're in the back just like what the fuck right so Danny was at Andrew Maxwell's wedding with Soraya

who's Egyptian who's family are Muslim and then he's just come back from Benidorm and he tells the story the way I've just told it to you

about the racist comedian that like we ended up watching ironically in Benidorm. And he repeats the joke and people laugh. But just as he gets to the point where he repeats the joke, Soraya's dad joins the conversation and just gets the joke. So he didn't get the context. So was he that funny with it? He just got the joke and it was tense.

Oh, really? So Danny went into another room and went, oh my God, you can't believe what just happened. I think he ended up going for a split with Maxwell. And he was just like,

oh man. And he told the story that I've just told you about him telling the joke. And then him turned up at the last minute. And as he does it, he turns up at the last minute

and just catches the end of it. So now Daniel is just going around to the wedding telling everybody this racist joke. And Soraya's dad hates him. Hates him.

Did I tell you when I was at Matty and Amir's wedding, right? Amir's dad and her uncle or something found out I was

a comedian and they just started going to me so like what kind of stuff do you do i was like you know i don't want to do that so i was like i think just go i mean don't mind just do like i believe indians indian heritage men yeah but like the more racist the better and i was like well you know i don't really i don't really do stuff like that and he was like no no no he was like if i come see you i want you I was like, well, you know, I don't really do stuff like that. And he was like, no, no, no. He was like, if I come see you, I want you to be.

I was like, no. I didn't think the white people would love it. The white people would love it. You would. I found out there's nobody more racist to each other than the second generation and third generation Indian and Asian. Oh, my God. Especially in a working class community like Blythe.

There's a couple of lads that there's a lad that's parents are Vietnamese and a lad whose parents are Indian and they are constantly racist to each other on Facebook to the point they're getting constant bans like you'll see the shit the state of each other on social media and then you'll just see them disappear for 30 days

and then come back out of the Facebook jail in my school football team yeah, bear in mind I Facebook jail. In my school football team, Bear in mind, I went to school where on my football team, I think it was like two white kids.

If anyone ever was able to get what we said to each other in the changing rooms, it's inexcusable. Like, everyone just sending for each other.

Everyone. The dressing room's one of the funniest places to be in sport. But then the Jamaican lads and then the lads who are African will start going for each other. And it makes you uncomfortable. Bro, like, bad, bad.

Like one of them. I can't even repeat it. I can't repeat it. And then you've got a cable that can just put this in the speaker. We didn't want the people upstairs to miss it. Can we just pump this out? Everyone in on the belly. But that was like,

there was this thing where it was like, you were just talking shit. There was no malice to it. People were talking shit to each other it was that's a so something I attack about is the the the substance of the words right like they're they've been not for near the actual words themselves could sometimes come across like crass and unsavory and all that but then sometimes you can see where that's just got depth to it that like is rotten and then spoiler alert if you're coming to me show I talk

about doing the dip you know when you choose who's in the game attack yeah working-class people if they've dog shit fucking bastard dirty get right it's elsewhere words nothing bad to the right but unsavory but we'll push people eenie meenie meenie mo catch a fishy by the Tony and you're like aye fucking fishy was it aye you said fishy did you yeah if it squeals let it go fuck you fuck you with sugar coating your words yeah

you're fucking you're rotten but you're fucking coming across you're coming across like the fucking nicest pie we're coming across

as fucking scum because we're swearing and actually like our hearts in a good place and your hearts fucking you know what you're saying

yeah don't act like you don't know what you're saying when you're catching a fishy by the toe yeah you've changed one word and i haven't done this on stand-up but fishy you know tiger tiger is too close to the word itself we're gonna change it where they are pretty fishy yeah that is funny. And to trust the audience to understand, you're right on that, though, that saying that as a kid was like, hip-dick dog shit, fucking bastard city, yeah. Yeah, that's what we used to do.

Ah, yeah. And we're the ones that go fucking, get frowned upon in the art industry because we're crass. Yeah, yeah. And then somebody that's, like, the hip-dick dog shit guys didn't get recognised at this festival. The eeny, meeny, miny, more guys get awards. I don't get fr. Yeah, yeah. And then somebody that's... Like, the hip-hop shit guys didn't get recognised at this festival.

The eeny, meeny, miny, moe guys get awards. I don't get frowned upon, man. I got four-star in short. I'm pretty fucking... I'm pretty pissed. That's it. I want to congratulate you on that, actually, because you got a four-star review

in what essentially was a preview of the show where it's not meant to be ready yet. Yeah, yeah. Which I thought it was a bit rotten that they were reviewing you that early into the festival. And you've come out with a good review. Yeah, yeah. Which I thought it was a bit rotten that they were reviewing you that early into the festival and you've come out with a good review. Mate, I had like...

So that week, I filmed a special of the old show which I've never felt fear right before going on stage. Oh yeah, you were genuinely nervous before that, weren't you? Like, I... Scared.

But you've done a good special though. It was amazing. It will come out in November. I can't wait for everyone to see it. I think you've got to channel them nerves, because I feel them now and again. Like, I've managed to iron them out to the point that I barely recognise them anymore, right?

But every now and again, when I get them nerves, and I know this thing's important, and it could change things if it goes right, and I do start being a bit selfish, rather than thinking about the crowd and making them laugh, I start thinking about myself, and this could make everything change for me if it goes well and I do start being a bit selfish rather than thinking about the crowd and making them laugh I start thinking about myself

and this could make everything change for me if it goes well I try to take that energy and do it in the same way you would get them nerves before a cup final

in a football game where you're tapping your studs off the floor your nerves are manifesting in a way that affects your body but you're not going to not get on that pitch

and play your heart out It felt like my first fight it felt like my first fight it felt like my first fight the boxing match actually like the fear that I was feeling was

yeah but you channeled it though you didn't let it overwhelm you yeah I did I couldn't wait I genuinely one of the best gigs in my life

I couldn't wait to get off stage until it was done do you know what I mean like I was I was enjoying it. Yeah, you start watching L.A. for a while when something good's in front of you. Yeah.

Sometimes just because you want it to be behind you and you want to be reflecting on it rather than looking towards it. Yeah, and then the other night when I had, like, Bennett and his reviewers in and it was the second night, I was still a little bit, like, learning the show.

Yeah. And, you know, I've had to do a quick turnaround with this show, touring the last one while writing this one yeah I've been in the same boat I took the Mischief show to Belgium like five days before the festival started so I've got two shows in my head one that's like airtight and I've recorded it and it's filmed and it's ready to go out and I'm doing that and then I've got this new show that like I'm busy working on and I'm piecing it together and it's

very rare you've got two shows that are like ready'm busy working on and i'm piecing it together and it's very rare you've got two shows that are like ready to go in your head and your head's fucked you just feel like you're like imagine i just filled the fucking memory on me mac yeah it's gonna start running slow yeah if there's too much shit on there right and i'm just in that point where i've got this show that works that i know i've got this show that I'm trying to get to work and I'm trying to remember and I just feel like I can't do anything else I can't play a computer game

I can't read a book like the processing speed of my computer is just fucking shutting right dude and it's like a couple of days into the fringe

I'll have this locked in and I'll remember key points of the previous show that I can use on showcase shows it'll free up some memory and then I'll be able to just fucking relax

and enjoy the rest of my life around it so I just had that sort of like yesterday when i had reviews and i went on i was just chilled but like on that first night with like bennett was in and stuff and people slag off bennett being the reviewer bennett being a reviewer we've slagged him off on the podcast before if you're digging the audience and sloss is gonna hate that i say this on a podcast it's so funny that you've hard pivoted just dance on him every review i've ever had of him has been very fair this is so funny like even the ones where've hard pivoted your stance on him. Every review I've ever had of him has been very fair. This is so funny.

Like even the ones where he slags me off. He gives him a good review and he's like, this man knows his shit. I said it before the review came out. This man knows his shit.

You were telling me before the podcast came out, well, the thing that people don't like about him is he's always right. If he gives you a two star, it's usually because it's the stuff

that you already know that you're doing wrong. I think what he's good at is picking up on things that you are aware of about your show that to some other people you can hide and disguise. And to him, you can't. If there is like, for some reason at the end of your show, you decide the last 15 minutes are to be heartfelt, and you do it just because you go,

oh, I better do this and cram something in he will pick up on that someone put a compilation together of all of the times that he's just reviewed the act on being jody has he he fucking kind of helped but just mentioned your accent and your jody and all that and that's the big that's the bulk of a lot of people's reviews that was way back when like i don't know how much he's evolved as a critic if there is evolution within that i. I just think, I just think like, my view on reviews changed when I started getting good ones.

But, it changed when it was like, you know, and we're talking about like the hypocrisy of these people on Marshall Moss and stuff earlier

and all of this stuff. The hypocrisy of comedians. Mm-hmm. All right. All right. Oh, no, I've slacked off reviewers for the fucking longest time and I haven't had a bad review

in fucking a bloody decade. Yeah. And then when you get good reviews, you suddenly share them and they're right. And then, you know, I would say

my first few reviews from him are absolutely fair. No, no, no. It's not fair. It's totally unfair because I've gotten bad reviews from fucking that website before

and I just started out, man. Like, what the fuck? Why is that getting immortalised on the internet? I'm trying to figure this shit out. Because that's the job you're in, bro. It's brutal. It's cutthroat. We're in this job.

We're set around... Why are you trying to take the window to me sales when I'm fucking just putting my sales up? Sink or swim, man. If you're either built for this or you're not. Do you know what I mean? I do think it's deeply inappropriate to fucking take shots at people's dreams. Yeah, but like, okay,

but then you can take shots at our dreams, but then when we're at altitude and we're having a beer on a Tuesday afternoon up a mountain and being paid to be there, that's the year in the gang of it. That's in spite of the fucking, the span of that fucking,

these reviewers doing the works in the early days of my career. Yeah, I wish I hadn't been reviewed as early on as I was. Or just reviewed politely, just like,

man, I'm going to put this up, but here's my actual feedback. I've watched a lot of comedy, so I hope you take my opinion as something of value. This is where I think you're good at getting the extra star from. But like fucking slagging off the internet, trolling, being trolled. But that's the world, man. People are doing that review. It used to be that that review would come out and then the next day it would be wrapping up someone's fish and chips.

Knew it's there forever. It's not fair. It's not fair. Not fair on the young'uns. I fucking take that shot at them now and then, but they've let it just fucking be a little mark, a little permanent. It's in permanent mark.

You can prove them wrong. You can find it by googling someone you can watch so much career growth you can watch it start out as this guy's shit to this guy's good if you've got a bit of

time on your hands right now before you get to work go and look up Tim Minchin's response to Phil Doust I think if you type in Tim Minchin

Phil Doust it'll probably fill the word Doust in for you I don't need to spell it for you because if you just write Tim Minchin P you'll get the Phil Doust song where he fill the word Doust in for you I don't need to spell it for you because if you just write Tim Minchin

P you'll get the Phil Doust song where he teed off on a reviewer that gave him a review early in his career and this was him when he's like

in his pomp he's reached this fucking big stage and instead of letting it go he writes the most petulant song in that Phil Doust and it's

fucking phenomenal because he speaks for so many of us yeah yeah yeah I do love that thing of like but like when Bennett first came I was like 17 yeah when I got my first review from Bennett

tore into me I was like teared up why would you think I'm a 17 year old as a grown ass man he was right in the review tell you in the review he was right tell you in the pub like in fact

he probably wouldn't he'd get killed but like he was he was right that's what annoys me about it like

he was correct with that review now like years later like to have to mature it to the point in my career where I can look at things

and go listen I was entering a man's world or whatever you know this is show business it's cutthroat it's ruthless and you've got to put up with you've got to put up with fucking bombing on stage on as you go fuck with someone putting something on line saying that you're a piece of shit you've got to put up with something that you think's bad selling more

tickets than you you've got to put up with it like it's that's what it is I've started responding to trolls occasionally online they were fucking've been enjoying it i'm not proud of life lighting them up because they're putting something in the public forum and then you're making them look like in the public forum yeah you should never put attention to them because this is i've always thought it can be funny what i've always thought is just like you're probably ignoring some people that are being nice to you yeah some people have been nice to you and you've just hit like oh you've ignored it and just made it, it's made you feel good

and then someone attacks you, shit, and then you give them a bit of your time and attention and all that and I just feel like that's unfair that you're fucking not talking to these people

who are supporting you and now you're talking to this guy. But sometimes I'm just like, nah, I'm going to do this for comedy value. I'm going to try and make the 30 or 40 people

that see it laugh and I'm going to fucking take off on this cunt just for the public exhibition of like, all right, you've got my attention. the 30 or 40 people that see it laugh yeah yeah yeah I'm gonna fucking take off on this cunt for just just for the the public exhibition of like alright you've got

my attention I'm gonna fucking nail you some guy at one time on a Twitter wanted a what was it

he I made a holocaust joke deleted it because I was like oh it was a bit hack I can't remember what it was about I think the worst fear would be to put out a joke that you misjudged and then somebody deleted it because i was like oh it was a bit hack i can't remember what it was about

i think the worst fear would be to put out a joke that you misjudged and then somebody sees it with this joke has been deleted screen caps and then it ends up on a thread of the worst jokes on twitter well that's good that so this guy like screenshotted it and then i wrote i'll delete that because it was hacked and the guy had screenshotted it and sent it to my dad i went look what kind of jokes your son is saying on Twitter. And then he went, and he's trying to say that he got hacked when I said I deleted it because it's hack, hack. And then I was like, so do you think my dad's going to ground me because of a tweet? Like, what's your plan here?

Like, as if my dad's going to pull me in. You're telling me dad, aren't you? Telling my dad for a tweet and my dad my dad was just we were laughing about it and he went yeah it was hack

my dad started going through and fixing the joke for me yeah yeah he wasn't thinking of the content he was thinking of the structure he started improving

my holocaust you're so close to an original point yeah yeah yeah right well my beer glass is empty we've got shows to do

it's been good seeing you man I've been commuting in and out of Edinburgh but I think I'm going to book some accommodation for the next week and spend some time immersed in the festival come to our shows if you can get to the fringe which if you are listening from the North East of England I think that there's going to be trains on that run late and you can actually

come and get back in time for your job tomorrow or whatever the fuck you're doing you can just go on Gallivanting to Edinburgh if you're coming through to Edinburgh

you can go see Elliot Steele at 9.15 in the underbelly 9.45 at the Buttercup we're speaking some truth in the Buttercup

people and one of the worst names roomed ever but yeah it's going really well and then I'll have a special coming out

in November and stuff which I'm looking at man I can wait. I'm so excited for it. And I'm on at 7.15 at the Subatomic, and both our shows are up and running. This is getting good reviews already. I'm personally happy with how mine is. It took a little while to click in my head, where I'm on stage going, what bit's next? Make this bit longer, so you've got more time to think about what's next,

and then you just end up like a really wordy routine Yeah yesterday Trim the fat great got everything back Yeah, they come slick enough, but what you need is a couple of them back-to-back so that you know, it wasn't a one-off Yeah, you know you've got to have consistency So I was being put the graft in on my shoulders and we're happy with them and we want you to come and see them So 715 and 945 you could go back to back hours and have time for a pint in between uh see you at the festival