Sloss and Humphries On The Road - Beef!
Episode Date: May 9, 2024Muggins and Cream fly over to the west coast from New York to Seattle before their gig in Tacoma and bring up hypothetical comedy beefs and how they'd respond. Encouraging comedy to go the way of rap ...music they pick their three high profile beefs they'd start to further their career. #30
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Sloss and Humphries on the road!
Muggins and cream, creaming muggins, straight thugging, living the dream
And that's our intro
Fucking muggles!
Tickling the clit inside your head that makes you laugh
Woohoo!
They said it can't be done!
Are we in the same seats?
That's hack
Aww, muggles!
Accidental rim job in the park
Kiss kiss kiss
Or am I just being cynical?
Just muggled it up on fucking Mugglepedia
Where have you been since 9-11? Where exactly are we?
Tacoma
Because I know we flew into Seattle and we drove for a bit
Yeah
From Tacoma and Washington State
Is it in Washington State?
I mean Seattle is isn't it?
Is it?
I think so
Right
If I remember right Seattle was the place that I saw a massive queue
And asked somebody
In the queue
What they were queuing for
And they didn't know
That was the AASA
I was also aware
And it was the
Original Starbucks
It turned out to be
But that just baffled us
That somebody joined the queue
And didn't have any
Fucking idea
What they were queuing for
So they just were like
Oh this must be important
I mean very British
Huh
To just
To honour a queue
Just like that
Straight away Yeah Very very good They were Asian Oh wait What kind of Asian This must be important. I mean, very British to just, to honour a cue just like that straight away.
Yeah.
Very, very good.
They were Asian.
Oh, wait,
what kind of Asian?
Like,
East,
Far Eastern.
Right, okay,
because Indian and Asian
do not,
they don't do the cues.
That's not fair.
I think they would have just
gone up to the front
and grabbed a little stamp.
100%.
Absolutely.
Going up there
and ordering their chai.
Seattle's also where
crazy not me is said yeah yeah so as far as I'm concerned this place has
earthquakes regular mass shootings massive outbreaks everything's
constantly on fire I think every building in the city's
fallen down there's no bridges left More mass shootings
Up close and personal murders
Real rough place
Aye
Good doctors though
Then you walk around
And it seems really sound
Well I mean I can't
I went for a little wonder
That day
And I ended up in an art shop
I love that our
To our manager Gordon
Is like really into art
Yeah It's not something you'd expect Because he's like really into art. Yeah.
It's not something you'd expect.
Cause he's quite a working class northerner.
Yeah.
He's from,
from Manchester,
lives in Bolton.
Yep.
And,
uh,
and it's just quite,
I find it like quite a contradiction,
like a juxtaposition that he's into art.
I really like it.
I don't know if I could see myself getting into art.
Like,
I think that's just a,
it's a certain level of money. I can't see you looking after it. Like, I think that's just a certain level of money.
I can't see you looking after it.
No.
I think, yeah, I think people, like, buy art
because, like, they're, like, looking at it every day
and it holds its value.
Yeah.
But I think you'd get bored of looking at it,
put it in the loft and just let it get a bit fucking damaged.
Yeah, but then my son's on fucking,
God damn, Antiques Roadshow in 50 years
And he's like oh my god
But this has got mould on it from being stored
In that damp attic
I think that's fine I think that adds to it
Especially after the nuclear war
I think just whatever's in the paint
Must be edible at that point
So actually auctioning it off for food
From listening to all the news
Do you think your son's not going to get to see
a good life
as he gets older? No. Have you
despaired yourself into thinking he's going to be walking
around a barren wasteland? I think he's going to be walking
around a barren wasteland. I just don't
guarantee he'll be here.
No.
What do you think
is going to happen?
Do you think it's going to happen after you die?
Or do you think it's going to happen in your lifetime too?
I would rather it happen within my lifetime.
I'd rather die with him.
So that you could be like Aragorn on the road?
No, no.
A post-apocalyptic world, I am killing me and my family.
I'm not.
You're not doing everything
to keep your son alive.
Not at all.
Not at all.
Same rule as zombie movies, right?
The second there's a zombie,
I break my own fucking neck.
I'm done.
Fuck that.
Not interested.
I can't be arsed learning how to hunt.
I don't want to fucking
constantly stab people.
I have to wash my hands.
Just get used to killing people.
Just get used to not liking
anyone because they'll die or
they'll betray. Nah, not interested.
The second the Wi-Fi goes down,
snap a roost, see you later. I think I'd accept
my new reality pretty quick. Nah,
I couldn't.
I think post-apocalyptic... I think I'd laugh,
remember, and complain about hotel rooms.
Hmm. Do you feel post-apocalyptic?
Yeah, you remember when you used to complain about about airports I feel like post-apocalyptic in Scotland
there's less chances of cannibals wanting to eat my son I feel like you
can live off the fact of the land a bit better if you're outside the city what's
it be I think it's got I think it's be parts of Scotland we're like I'd get up
there with Cailin right and we'd be like starving and whatever and we'd have
walked for ages and Cara's she's there but she's just behind
she's always behind
She's somehow got signal
We eventually get there
and the people up in the fucking highlands just north of Inverness
have no idea that there's been
a mass apocalypse and I'd be like okay
I can hang out with you folk because it's not like
we're all waiting for the collapse of
civilisation to go all
mental. i feel like
if american civilization collapse is there's enough people who are just like i'm going to
take advantage of this chaotic situation for myself because that's the foundation of america
whereas i don't think i think in scotland we just be like oh you hear everyone in england's dead
should we just all
merge into the event
your dad was suggesting
that a theme park
would be the best place
to go
because it's designed
to keep people
from breaking in
I think my dad's
just watched
Zombieland
is that what that is
yeah that's the entire
concept of the movie
Zombieland
okay
well like repurposing
the rides to be
killing machines
pretty much
well they don't really
repurpose them
we were walking
we were walking we were walking
through Universal Studios
and your dad was
fantasising over
the idea of repurposing
the machines
to kill zombies
they don't really
repurpose them
in the movie Zombieland
they just use them
as they are
as sort of killing
things
and it's a good movie
Woody Harrelson
whose daughter
we met
yes
one of his daughters
came to our show we met Zoe Harrelson Whose daughter We met Yes One of his daughters Came to our show
We met
Zoe
Harrelson
Yep
She was really cool
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I I I I I I I I I I I I I If Rhys Jacob Mogg's kids turned out to be absolute legend, I would be shocked to my very core.
Maybe they could be just out of rebellion.
No, I don't think there's any rebellion in those areas.
I think rebellion in those areas is like fucking firmly telling your mother
at the age of four that you no longer want breastfed,
but her insisting that you do it to the ripe old age of seven.
Do you think if you're Jacob Rhys reese muggs son other likes of his
son like you don't see any negatives to nepotism absolutely no no i don't think anyone that's like
raised if you're if you're like a fucking stable bread politician like a lot of the tories are
which is just like we're gonna make people whose job it is to get them to school whether just teach
them that they're better than other people all right and how to use the system and how to,
you know,
all the points of influence
and how to get in there
and how to cover everything up.
Yeah,
man,
I don't think they give a shit.
Like,
maybe one in,
like,
a thousand.
Here's what happens
to politicians' kids.
Some of them become comedians.
If you met someone
that you just,
like,
really thought was sound
that totally passed
a vibe check and then you found out that they were the son thought was sound, they totally passed a vibe check,
and then you found out that they were the son of like a Tory politician,
like Michael Gove or something like that.
Yeah.
Like, would you instantly change your view on them?
100%.
Or would you be like, huh?
Huh?
No, I would.
Broke the chain.
No, I would have the opposite.
No, no, no.
I would much be more of the opinion that this can't score of the opinion my first impression was wrong I got fooled I know absolutely
out hey is there you is there any father-son combo way like in in them
like popular culture that you're like one of them but not the other
I hate both
Smiths
Paul and Laurie
I do the sound
discounts on the planet
Will and Jaden
I was fucking gutted
that Will turned heel
I liked Will Smith
I knew he was corny as far as
Rap music was concerned
Even though I bought his albums
Back in the days of HMV CDs
I bet if a white man from Newcastle
Was buying your albums
Chances are
I was into good rap at the time
But I still was like
You know what
catchy
like he's rapping
pop songs
which is better than
just other pop songs
so
like
I was all about
Will Smith
I thought he was great
in all his films
I thought he's shit gold
I thought like
his philosophy on life
was good
Wild Wild West
was your favourite movie
for 10 years
by far
by far
shit gold
like I said yeah um he
wow but i now everything like it's like the glass has been shattered now like i i look back and
i just think he's a bit of a bellend now there's so much lore surrounding him and his wife and
their relationship and on most of the stories is that she's a bitch and she's turned him into a bitch but i've not
read too much into it like when you try and catch up on these things like it's a quick quick quick
scan through a couple of tmz articles and then you can go into youtube and you'll find a bunch
of youtubers who are willing to explain the beef to you and on the back stuff but then
then you fuck your algorithm as far as rap goes goes, though, if you're Will Smith,
like, forgetting what he's done with acting
and everything else he's achieved, right,
as far as just rapping goes,
if your wife used to can out with Tupac,
the greatest rapper of all time,
you're always going to feel a little bit inadequate in that marriage.
Did she go out with Tupac?
Uh-huh.
Oh.
Yeah, that is the biggest thought. That would be like somebody who used to go out with you back uh-huh yeah that is
that is the
biggest
like that would
be like somebody
who used to go
out with Muhammad
Ali now goes
out with Jake
Paul
aye
when is that
fight that Jake
Paul
Tyson one
I feel like
it's a fight
I think Ed
wins the
wrestling on
yeah but
I mean
it's the last
one
it's like
it's pant
it's panto season.
I know, but it would be.
But it would be good if fucking Mike Tyson just went Tiger.
Yeah.
Went like Siegfried and Royce Tiger
and just was just like,
I'm fucking Mike Tyson.
You remember?
Oh yeah, our contracts.
Like, wave that paper at us while I fucking murder you.
Aye.
Well, I mean,
and it wouldn't be the first time he's gone to jail.
I feel like new Mike Tyson doesn't have,
I say new, like he's revamped himself.
And I don't know how much of it's fucking genuine.
The good part, they would like to believe it.
But, you know.
I saw a very funny video of...
Who's that little midget guy that you hate?
Oh, Hasbulla.
Hasbulla.
Mike Tyson not knowing that Hasbulla wasn't a kid.
And just giving him the treatment that I would give Caelan.
Yeah, yeah.
Just picking up and being like,
he's a little boy.
I don't hate Haspelau as a person.
I just hate his celebrity.
He'll never convince me that it's not just like
bullying and capitalising on bullying.
And you can say to people like,
oh, look look he's making
fucking money about it it's like okay cool right the people in the freak show made friends with
each other and i'm sure considering their upbringing they probably had a slighter better
life than that but i still think it's fucking gross i googled him today actually because uh
i wanted to pitch out of them running for a video. Yeah. Because I was going to do another treadmill video.
And I Googled Hezbollah running.
Oh, that's the terrorist organization.
Well.
Yeah, I wasn't.
Depending on what we say, politics.
I wasn't mad keen on the results I got.
Now I'm flagged from a Google search.
Yeah.
Unless you're running from Hezbollah.
But then it's still an odd thing to Google.
I can't imagine're getting flagged anyway
just for being stupid.
Because it's spelled differently
because there was no sign of...
100%.
Hezbollah is H-E-Z-B-U-L-L-A-H
and Hezbollah is H-E-Z-B-U-L-L-A-H.
You've passed your spelling bee.
I've always been a good speller.
Yeah.
Are you remotely asked about the beef between Kendrick Lamar and Jake?
Jake.
Drake.
Drake.
Jesus fucking Christ.
Two granddads on a podcast.
Remember when we were young, hip and fucking cool.
I actually went and listened.
Because I'd seen everybody talking about how fire Kendrick Lamar was
and how fucking amazing he was. I was expecting this to be like kill shot and i went and listened to
it and like i was just like meh maybe i'm just not interested in rap anymore i thought like i
still got back and listened to old rap tracks like i haven't completely there was one good
about what music i liked there was one good line in the kendrick one of the kendrick
bets back to drake but you just and everyone everyone's going, oh my God, that's such a far line, which is, oh, you know, I must've struck a chord. It was a minor. I'm like, man, I've heard that joke in comedy for 12 years. Like fucking, it's really old. Like it's funny. It's a hack.
It's low hanging fruit.
It's low hanging fruit I am
No I don't really get it
Because here's the thing
Anyone that's like
I've not listened to enough
Of Drake to have
Any sort of real opinion
Right
The first song I ever listened to
Was started from the bottom
Now we're here
Which to me is objectively
One of the worst songs
Ever written
Like it's just
It's like worse than
The Bull Bird and Parody
Repeat stuff
It's just repeating
The same thing over and over again
And I couldn't believe It was a real Drake song I thought somebody Was fucking with me I'm like This is the bull burden part of the repeat stuff it's just repeating the same thing over and over again and i couldn't believe it was a real drake song i thought somebody was fucking with me
i'm like this is the person everyone says is the greatest rapper of all time is just saying the
same seven words over and over again and that's uh so i didn't like him then um none of the memes
i've seen about him or anything i've seen him doing pop culture, I'm like, oh, that's a cool guy. And again, as always,
I've said it before, I've said it again,
I don't care what it says,
rap isn't cool, writing poetry's not cool.
Doesn't matter how you do it,
doesn't matter what car you sing it from,
doesn't matter who you fucking shoot.
Lads, you're all writing poetry,
and poetry sucks.
It's slam poetry.
It's sick beat.
I can't, I take it as seriously as that.
Do a little dance as well
Don't get me wrong
When poets go
You're just a clown
100%
Absolutely
I am just a clown
Rather a clown than a poet
Court jester
I've seen Kendrick Lamar
Why?
He's opening for M&M
At Bellahouston Park in Glasgow
I've probably heard some of his songs
I just think
In general rap just got worse
I think there needs to be more public beef
In comedy
I want it to be like more
I really wish
Like maybe this is what will happen
Like now the fact that like everything
In reels and stories and stuff
Like people are putting up clips
Of them just doing fucking crowd work so much now that like you know sometimes you get a clip that bangs and goes
fucking viral for a bit and then sometimes people release clips that just aren't as good as they go
away maybe that's in it maybe that's how we get comedy to surpass rap just get get comedians to
start beefing with each other start and the same way rappers do for no fucking reason aye threatening to kill
them and that lad
putting their children
into it
yeah on stage
well fuck
I mean fucking
Dame Baptiste
has just done this
I was thinking
I was thinking
of bringing that up
he threatened to
murder someone
didn't he
oh man
he threatened to
turn up with a
hoosah murder
on the family
yeah
which look
and it was like
such thinly veiled
anti-semitism as well
but if he'd done it
in a set Kai if he'd done it in a set Kai
if he'd done it
in a set
like here's the thing
right
no one that's ever
like released a diss track
right
it's been like
I'm gonna fucking shoot you
in the head
because you're a piece of shit
I fucking hate you
right
imagine fucking Biggie
gets that done to him
with my two pack
and he's like
well I'm fucking
telling the police
if you're two packs
in your song
that's me he's talking about
go and fucking arrest him if you were to do the jokes're like that's me he's talking about go and fucking arrest him
if you were to do
the jokes
of I'm gonna kill you
and your family
in a joke
then
then you're just
starting beef
I actually
remember
because they led us
battle rapping each other
on stage
I used to do a bit
about how
like you can say
anything you want
to somebody
if you make it rhyme
because it just puts
like a little
like lens of silliness
on it that it can't be taken seriously which is that because imagine like it's obviously
matt rife at the moment like i think sam morrow and mark norman started off the like we're
gonna put our stuff on they didn't start off and they were the first ones to like really make it
pop and bang then matt rife came in after like if they'd start beefing just in a couple of their
clips and they've released and that'd be dead fucking interesting because then obviously
matt surpasses them and i don't think my rifle made me say this i think smart norman and some
moral or objectively better joke writers than he is i just i think comedy needs beef do you think
we should you'd say the pasco not a good example But like You know But if I released a disc track Yeah Yeah yeah yeah
If I did the Pascoe disc track
Yeah
I would have gotten
Everyone's attention
To be fair
Maybe that is
What comedy beef is
Maybe it's just
Writing stuff about
Other people in your books
Because you are
Such fucking little losers
You've got to get
Into the literary section
To think that the beef
Because there's good
There was
I followed like
The LA podcast
for a while there was that Brendan Shaw
and Brian Callum was going against Bobby Lee
I was mad into that and that was good
but comics
comics aren't really beef
in private
you know what we never ever released them
but I could probably still find them
oh no I know exactly what you're talking about
let's not even look for them
this is how I would find it,
an old email address.
Yeah.
But I'd hit, like, Gandig Fruit.
It says, me, you, Matt Reid.
Danny McLaughlin.
Danny McLaughlin.
And Lee Kyle?
Hi.
We had, like, an email chain
where we were pretending to write reviews for our mates,
but they were like
in the wanky style of like an edinburgh broadway baby like yeah three weeks the broadens always
missing the point of what you're watching to like slam them for something doing a really bad review
of your friend by a reviewer who did not understand the show or get it or have any sense of humor
and you either do a glowing review
or a really negative review.
And at the end, regardless, it's three stars
because three stars is just the most pointless
and unspotting thing that you can fucking give.
There were some very funny ones in there.
But to be fair, I think we kept it...
I'm correct me if I'm wrong here.
I think we kept it mostly kosher.
I think we were genuinely going after
friends. Well the idea was
the idea was like when it comes to the fringe
like we'll just start fucking releasing them and putting the
stars on the posters as just
this anonymous, they're masked critique
just sort of anonymous but it's
like it wasn't a single person
anyway but it would just generate a little
bit of like who the fuck's writing this, this is quite funny
these are like quite clearly people who are in know in the know stand up but then there was
a couple of where we're like oh we might have actually hit nerves on the fragile egos of comics
if we if we do put these out especially when you're at the fringe and you're fucking worried
about your work anyway and somebody's like hitting insecurity like a best friend would but you don't
know it's one of our friends yeah it could just be anyone so god we really are bitches
maybe that's why comics
don't have beef
it's because we're all
such overly sensitive
folks
the empathy kicks in
and you go
you might struggle with that
you might
take that home with them
right okay
here's a question for you
right if you want to
right
so I'm taking time off
after this fucking
tour
I'm gonna go be a family man
for a bit
rediscover my love
for stand up dip my toes back in the water whenever I can be arsed I'm going to go be a family man for a bit rediscover my love for stand-up
dip my toes back
in the water
whenever I can
be arsed
you're about to
go off
do your own
tour
right
so let's just
say you just
go full
fuck it
I'm going to
go pure
fucking career
mode
pure cynicism
pure I'm
going to
find
not necessarily
going to do
bad comedy
get at the
top
but I'm
going to
use like
unsavory
tactics
and one of
the best
ways rappers
do it
to up their fucking profile
is to create beef
with other
featured artists
on their tracks
or
create beef with like
better artists
and hope that they
fucking reply to you
who on your climb
to the top
I want three people
at different levels
who you're going to
beef with
who you're then
going to beat in a beef
to jump onto the next person
oh god like which
ones would just be career suicide?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Going after Sarah Milligan.
Yeah, exactly.
For no reason.
Like everyone would be like, nah man.
That's your queen.
And also, no offense to you,
I think she'd beat you.
I think she'd beat you. I think she'd fucking...
But basically, a guy after Parsons would be cathartic for a lot of people.
Okay.
Who have just had it like, just being like, oh yeah, he is shite.
Right, so you batter Andy Parsons on the way out.
You're on your way up. Everyone does Andy Parsons Andy Parsons on the way out you're on your way
up
everyone does Andy
Parsons twice
once on the way up
once on the way down
right okay
who else
he beefs back
people kind of like
it because they're
like oh yeah I
remember him
they get it back
wait so I'm gonna
get a bit of
momentum right
yeah
and I'm gonna
go after Frankie
because he's going in to beat a cookboard yeah yeah he's going in to beat a cookboard
yeah yeah
he's going in to beat a cookboard now
I think he's showing his neck
yeah
I reckon you can go after him
but again it would be like
that time I know
Meg Tino Asprea
okay
so you reckon
well because I understand what you said about Frankie
like is
and again
I mean look
Frankie
has always I think I don't think he's changed his opinions at all in like the 20 years about Frankie like is and again I mean look Frankie has
always
I think
I don't think he's changed
his opinions at all
in like the 20 years
I do find it very funny
there were people who were like
Frankie's gone fucking
woke
and it's like
man did you not listen
to the jokes he was telling
on
all the offensive jokes
he was doing
were anti-monarchy
anti-capital
he's always been
the anti-government
it's just at the time
I think it was a Labour government
was in so you were like oh it's fine when he does it there butment it's just at the time I think it was a Labour government so you were like
oh it's fine when he does it
there
but now it's against the Tories
blah blah
which is always the fucking case
I mean he gets some good shots
in it yeah
but
you could do it
there is dirt
there is dirt
like if he was beating you
you could go for the eyes
you could do the Kendrick.
Aye.
Aye.
So there's just certain people you just wouldn't touch.
Who you're not touching?
Jeffreys.
Yeah.
You kind of touch Jeffreys, you'd die.
Yeah.
You could maybe do, I would maybe,
and I think like behind the curtain, I'd probably let him know at some point, I think he probably would know just for the hell of it, I'd do Carr because his career is further in terms of like America and Europe and stuff.
like I could do him,
he'd probably,
probably fucking beat me.
But if I just like graciously accepted it at the end,
then,
you know,
shake hands,
respects,
this is the next generation.
Then stab him in the fucking... You're lost against him,
but you put on a show.
And then when he's old and decrepit,
just absolutely turn my back on him.
So who's me rap piece with then?
Straight,
so you've gone,
you started with it,
you started with Parsons.
Fucking hell, you've gone through more than it you started with Parsons you go through
Mother Week
Dara Watchout
Dara Watchout
I'm coming for
the king
you're still
opening Dana
you don't want
to go global
I'm not going
after Dara
nah
oh fucking Jeff Ross you not going after Dara Nah Oh fucking Jeff Ross
You're going after Jeff Ross
Pretender
Stealing a career up there
Got a job because Greg Geraldo overdosed
Those are good beefs
You've got two years
You've got two years
This is like
the netting challenge
you go do that
I'll go get in shape
you go get your own career
and I'll get ripped
I just come back
I just come back
after two years
like Danny you've got
a star tour
my new one's booked
apparently I'm a cunt
apparently the fucking
nice guy thing was
apparently I'm really
upset at Andy Parsons
he's just a really nice guy
he's a real sweetheart
had his moment in the light
he's been nice to everyone
since he's happened
to these people
he's fucking
he slapped his bald head
and he didn't even say anything
about Frankie Bowie
he just started swinging
he was doing his shopping
just an old man at the shops
okay if I'm trying to get to the next level of my career he's doing his shopping just an old man at the shops okay
if I'm trying to get
to the next level
of my career
I think
easy one for me
just considering
like people have suggested
that what with like
his air quotes cancellation
and what's been happening
with the Russell Brand thing
I reckon
I reckon I'd go for Matt Rife
straight away
right
he's got way more
he's infinitely more successful
than me
but there's enough people
who have like
sort of said
and also
you know
the people that have seen
our things
and been in the comments
being like
I could do that
I would get
get loud
he would win
but only because he had
he
he's got the most followers
but like people who didn't
I would then be able to get people
who didn't like Matt Rife
on site
and that's what I'm trying to get at that point.
You're not going,
you're not trying to convert Drake's fans.
You're trying to get Drake's haters
to be more on your side.
Yeah, you're like,
oh, fucking someone's saying it.
Aye, aye.
So.
About time someone in the industry spoke up.
Yeah, so Google, go again.
You're going to get those guys
who are like quietly saving
because of their last fancism.
Aye.
Yeah.
I think you're going to get quite a bit
of incel on side.
That's the problem.
Oh, you think? Because I think, I think his is going to get quite a bit of incel on Sade, that's the problem Oh you think?
Because I think his is
not necessarily him but like certainly
I think people who hate that women love him
will love you for that
Oh but then
all of his response to the cancellation and stuff was like
to tell people to get like the fucking disabled
head thing
He did hard pivot didn't he?
He tried to get he tried to get um
no no you tried to get a like a bit of a rebrand on no no i think his thing was always just like
i'm just gonna fucking say anything that's what i've done you can take what i've said
you know it was just a joke yeah yeah yeah his thing is i'm gonna say anything and i'm a comedian
um blah blah blah um so that's that's good to start with
then
are we going to go
heel
because that
maybe we're going to
heel tomorrow
and people
you'd probably get
quite a lot of people
outside if you
went after
Dave Chappelle
for the trans bashing
I was going to go
absolute fucking
polar opposite
I was going to go get all the Matt Rife hairs
mad onto my side with the fan base
I've developed for years, right?
At this point, again, we're trying to get blanket.
We're trying to become most famous,
most popular, most fucking known.
At this point, I've got all the lefties,
I've got all the liberals, they're on my side.
How do I get the people on the right-hand side?
Dave Chappelle's not going to do that.
Maybe I go for him finally. Second person I go for people on the right hand side Dave Chappelle's not going to do that maybe I go for him finally
second person I go for
out the gate
Gatsby
just
just completely
muddy the waters
the people who
loved me
and defended me
for years
are like
yeah
what
no
people have
hated me
they're like
huh
this is
interesting
all of the people
who are in your
like you know
with rap as you'll have like a camp of people who are like on your side is interesting all of the people who are in your leg you know with
rap as you'll have like a camp of people who are like on your side yeah right like all the people
that are on your side will be like fuck no i've got a decision to make yeah yeah like everyone
like reese yeah i think they would definitely i think if i went after hannah katsby i'm losing
all the good people yeah yeah you're losing the room room aye they get they get like when Hannah replies
it'll be like Tupac
but with like mob deep
like you'll have
you'll have his click
right
so they go for that
right
I've married the worst
so at this point
I'll probably actually
quite hate it
right
eh
because like I've
disappointed people
it's still good for the
foot fetish people
if I get cramp
I've just got cramp
for the is cramp is cramp like squirting in the foot fetish people if I get cramp I've just got cramp for the
is cramp
is cramp like squirting
in the foot fetish world
em
no it's probably like
serial masochism
tickling your feets probably
aye
like that
em
because that blows up
now the right wing like me
right
and I obviously don't like
the right wing like me
but now they know who I am
now they're fucking
paying attention so you're can after the guy so
now I go after the guy now final boss Chappelle no realistically even if I do
the best I'm not fucking beaten Chappelle it's just not gonna it's not gonna
happen but hey you know you know it's the fans yeah it's when somebody wins
some back over complicated career and then yeah
I mean definitely
at that point
doing stadiums
but
to like a confused crowd
the most
which is the people
that stuck with it
all the way through
just there like
like what's he gonna say now
yeah
and
800 patreons
being like
well I've been there
from the start
I just thought I'd there for the start.
I just thought I'd be for the whole thing.
I'm an OG.
What can I say?
The Gatsby thing
was surprising.
Imagine like,
you released a disc track
for Gatsby
and then you're like,
you're going to bed
and you wake up
and you just have a moment
where you see
that you've responded.
Your phone's starting to go off. People asking if you're like you're going to bed and you wake up and you just have a moment where you see that you've responded your phone's starting to go off
people asking
if you're alright
you got a message
off Milo
going are you alright
after the Gatsby thing
would you take
would you go and make breakfast
and just have yourself
a moment
where nothing's happened yet
nothing's happened yet
have some fruit
put some yoghurt on
have a nice day
and then you go
alright let's see
what Gatsby's done oh no I don't know here's the real issue with what happened I would try to do that yet have some fruit put some yogurt on have a nice day and they got ready let's see what caspy still
oh no i don't know here's here's what would happen i would try to do that and carol go
have you seen what's happened i'd be like bad or good as you go they're all saying you've been
murdered no no when you say they all do you mean the public or just race
that would be a funny one
if you get all of the they them's after you
and then go after Dave Chappelle
while they hate you
then you're an artist
then you've actually just been there to provoke everyone
and then it's been like
and then people
can sort of look back
and then I think also
if you make sure
that you're criticising
during all the beefs
that I've got
right
I'm criticising
Rife for the
right things to criticise
I'm about right
I'm criticising Gatsby
for the right things to criticise
I'm about criticising Chappelle
for the right thing
right
I'm going in harsh
I am often taking it too far
I'm swinging fucking hard
but the base level of it
I have gone after fair things
that means
you know
after Chappelle beats me
right
just capitulate
go away for like
fucking five years
then people remember
back fondly
because there's no more
good beef anymore
I'm just calling it Caspi
just copycats everywhere
fucking boring shit happening
people are like
would be good if he came back
what if
Bo Burnham
called you out what if Bo Burnham called you out
what if he started
beefing you
what if you were
on his beef list
oh god
what if you just
wake up one morning
fucking
Bo Burnham's just been
attacking
absolute smack about you
on his vlog
fucking heck
I have
I mean
what do you do
if John Jones
follows you home
like
man the guy
like here's the thing
when Bo Burnham
starts beefing with me
this is just comedians
beefing with him
like he's doing songs
like I don't know
like at that point
I've got to collaborate
with Tim Minchin
or Bill Bailey
both by the way
massive Bo Burnham fans
so I've got to start
fake
I've got to start
fake beef there
I've got to be
I've got to be
gaslighting Tim Minchin
right
gaslighting Tim Minchin
and they said
what he said
what he ate
oh no
just going through
some of the lyrics
that are like
definitely about me
but being like
oh that was actually
about this thing
about you
that thing
apparently you've spotted
in a clip of Phil Doust
so I've got
I've got
at that point
I've got to get
yeah
maybe I go for both
maybe like
get Bill
get oh no,
or tough get,
tough get,
really tough get,
impossible,
but we're in the world of impossibility here.
Lonely Island out of retirement.
Oh, nice.
And then,
Andy Samberg.
That's how I beat Boba.
And then like do like Eminem on Forever
and just move to Andy Samberg on his own track.
That's what I'll do
to Bo Burnham
right
the only way I'm beating him
every single one of my
return diss tracks
is just me with a more
talented musical
I do one with Will Bailey
I do one with Tim Mitchen
I do one with Concord
I do one with Lonely Island
I do one with fucking
oh come on
the white rapper
he's got his own TV show
Dave
Dave Dave it's just called Dave with fucking, oh, come on, the white rapper, he's got his own TV show, Dave.
Dave?
Dave.
It's just called Dave.
The one that sings,
um,
Tiago Silva?
No,
no,
no,
no, no,
no,
no,
no.
The,
I can't,
his name's gone out of my head,
and people are screaming at the thing,
but I don't have my phone on me,
so I'm all doomed.
go,
get on that,
and then,
and then I've just got,
and then I've got like A fucking album
Of like
Collaborative bangers
Of diss tracks
And then
And then hopefully
Me and Bo make up
What would you do
If you released like
A diss track
With someone
And they were all just like
Oh sticks and stones
I mean that would be good
I mean that would be good.
I mean, that would be absolutely devastating.
I'll stick to the stairs, Daniel.
Oh, man.
But you know what?
I'd release a second disc.
I'd come back with sticks, mate.
I'd be like, fucking shit, tell us your weakness.
God, that would be so funny just as it's like and it would
it would
you would be
called out for being a loser
for like so many fucking months
but in the long run
if you were just like
fuck off title
you know it's always funny
to do the M&M kill shot thing
which is to turn around
and just go
fuck off dead
but eh
yeah if you could just
fucking Buddhist
an entire beef
I'd just get through it.
I'd still keep releasing comedy.
Just releasing clips now.
It's not happening.
He has me stuffing with my dog.
Sending them birthday cards.
Releasing diss tracks and you're sending them fucking Christmas presents
thinking you donate to charity in their name.
Kill the vulcanist, doing a beef.
Oh,
I wish I had the patience for it.
Have you ever heard
any comedian slugging you off?
Em,
no,
for which I'm grateful
because I know it's happening.
But,
but man,
I'm very much of the opinion
that like,
man,
if you want to tell me behind my back,
fucking go nuts.
Like man, it's venting, right?
Most of the time I bitch about the communities behind the back.
If I was to self-reflect on it with a therapist for two hours,
I'd be like, all right, that's all of my insecurities.
These are people who have great fucking stuff in my head.
It's nice to get it out.
So as long as people are doing it behind my back
and just doing it.
Because it would be devastating if you found out that nobody ever slagged you off
and you'd be like,
oh God, I've slagged a few people off.
I thought it was going to be evens
when we've done the scores at the end.
Yeah.
No, I feel like people do.
I feel like if anyone like,
I reckon I'd absolutely get like
gently ridiculed or whatever
off people, of course.
But I don't think there's too much
animosity going around
there was the beef
with Andrew O'Neill
and Michael Legg
back in the day
it wasn't Andrew O'Neill
I've always been
someone to Andrew O'Neill
it was
Andy Talbot
no not Andy Talbot
Christian Talbot
Andrew O'Neill
was the one
we mean him
threatening to fight each other
during the
key and boxing thing
oh did he get involved with that I can't of mean i mean make a leg and christian
talbot getting involved now like absolutely went to them that was very much lower level and
that was like insecurity based beefing in my uh beef response i wrote christian talbot's to-do
list on a t-shirt pizza box and posted online was all just like fucking shite stuff that he does with his day
ask Michael Legge
what my opinion is
yeah
God do you remember
back in those days
maybe it is
I was
what's us
we're the problem
we're the problem
I think
I don't
I don't think
I think we're
well received
in the industry oh I think like generally as a rule I think we're well-received in the industry.
Oh.
I think, like, generally as a rule, I think, like,
if anybody started, like, venomously slagging off
in just, like, a generic green room,
there'd probably be a couple of people that were like,
that's a red flag to them, that they're going after us.
I'm not so sure.
I wonder if there's, like, there may be one or two people
that, like, I've just been, like, imp in play to I said something that was like maybe a bit
Frank because I thought it was funny I like a swing and a miss you know that
the leg they didn't pick up how I was putting it down and they'll have like a
little great but wouldn't them in 15 years is boo to be one or two of them
but I think about all the times it fucking like all the different arts bars
and stuff where I've just been countedunted off me mail and also just so deep
into a tooth
that I'm not really
caring about
you know what I get like
where I probably have
just been flippant to people
all but I haven't
I mean I must have
but
like
I remember people
being arseholes to me
and I have not dropped
any of those grudges
none
you didn't just think
I've caught them on a bad day
nah nah I've got names that's caught them on a bad day? No.
No, I've got names.
That's just them on a bad day.
No, no way.
Not a chance.
Not against me.
There's some people where I'll get along with them,
but if people slag them off, I'll be like,
oh, yeah, I get that.
Yeah.
I'm not going to run to the defence here
because I know exactly what you're on about.
I somehow managed to get along with them perfectly fine. And I not joining in on this but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
disarm you if you're complained because it's real hi all of my friends are deeply flawed much like
I am but I can tolerate their flaws and if you can't fair enough mm-hmm like I got some fucking
I am friends with someone annoying fucking cunt mm-hmm mm-hmm
do you reckon it would be good if like would you take it up as an option if every new
year right you need a list of like you go through before you go through a door
you just fill this list out of the names of all the friends that you want to take
on into the next year.
And then when you don't do,
they're just like, it's just a government system.
So their numbers are deleted off your system.
It's off all social media.
They somehow forget.
Well, in fact, they don't forget your address,
but if they go to your house, it's considered stalking.
Like it's a well-known thing.
You get your list of friends when you walk through that door and if you've written someone else's name down and they've
not written yours it's not on that list you can't be in contact with them anymore would you take that
as an option if you can just literally the list of friends you're taking the next year yeah everyone
else is told that any contact with you will result in them oh i'd be worried that i missed
someone off the list who i like like flip flippantly accidentally forgot someone off the list you've got all year
huh it's all year it's a yearly tradition that happens every new year don't go wrong you've
made that mistake sometimes before and you've lost some good people you know you can't bump
into them on the street and be like oh i'm sorry we can get back together and hopefully they take
your apology i'll get your next new year's list. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But at the minute,
like you're going to get arrested
if you keep tiring me right now
and you're in trouble.
Yeah.
Would I take that list?
No.
Oh, I wouldn't.
No.
People, like,
I've had people that, like,
wouldn't have made the list
and they've absolutely U-turned
and been, like, come good.
Oh, no, man.
As somebody who's not confrontational,
I remember the first time
being absolutely
devastated
by how just like
people who weren't
confrontational
were often
disadvantaged by
in the first rule
that you learn
when you're growing up
at least when we were younger
is you can't dump
someone by text
and I was always like
oh but why not
but why
I've just done it
I've sent it so like but why but like oh yeah sure why? I've just done it. I've sent it.
So like,
but like,
oh yeah,
sure.
Like,
okay,
we've been going out for three or four years.
We've lived together.
Sure.
I can't be like,
Hey,
you're dumped.
It's the biggest cowardice.
It's the biggest cowardice,
but I'm 13.
I'm never going to say them again.
I just,
I say proposing by text dad,
but worse.
Don't have the decency.
If you're dumping someone by text, you're the problem.
Agree.
The problem isn't the person that you're texting.
Okay, but agree.
So in that case, as long as we're agreeing that I'm the problem,
can I then dump you by text?
It's not your to me, please take me.
Here's a thought experiment for you if every comedian
that let's just say puts in a tax return for a professional salary like not you know if you just
blanket say comedian could be any fucking but if you say like a certain amount on your tax return
that's that's how much you're getting paid
you're a comedian
we'll respect you
for the living
that you're making
if every person
each week
had to go into
the diary room
and evict
another comedian
oh yeah
would you be nervous
on results day
the entire
the entire UK comedy scene
uh huh
no not for a while
you'd think
you'd think you had
like a good wild grace'd think you had a good
Wales grace, wouldn't you?
Yeah.
Yeah.
If it's weekly evictions,
let's say,
out of my arse,
let's say four,
let's say 500 comedians
in the UK fall into that category.
Yeah.
52 weeks in a year.
You'd see the arrow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'd like to believe
I'd see
a year out
then again
maybe you're following
hmm
be a second guessing
what people are thinking
like
I've got this perception
of myself
that I get along
with everyone
because when I see them
I get along with them
get along with them
that's the majority
of people
in any green room
like
maybe it's like
one or two that even then what the one or two i'm
like i find them annoying but they probably don't know that they're annoying us oh well no the first
thing i'm doing is the first people i'm voting off are the unfunny people and i'm hoping that
as an industry that's the standard we're all taking for the first like are you thinking you're
thinking of the bill before you're thinking of the time you're hanging out? Yeah, the first 10 evictions better be the worst 10 comedians we all know.
Because if they're not, and I start seeing it being tactical fucking people,
then we're going survivor up in this bitch.
I think it would be 80-20 in my head.
I reckon there's some good comedians that I'd let better people stay for.
I'd evict better comedians than the ones that are sound
and better company.
But there'd have to be
a good balance of that.
I think it would be,
like I say,
80% to do with the talent.
But if that 20%
has to do with that personality
is a big enough of a compromise.
Because you do have to hang around
with them a lot as well
as share a stage with them.
Yeah, so that's why I feel like
I'd be at a disadvantage.
I've not shared this,
like I've not been on the circuit for years. there's like nobody knows what i'm like and i come across as a fucking arsehole in everything and obviously like it's
once you're once you're here with me that you realize most of it's like almost ironic you know
what i was outside unhappable because we've, like, because of your career and I've been,
like,
coming away with you,
that means I haven't been
on the circuit as much as,
like,
I like being on the circuit.
Like,
I always dip my toe back in
when I get a bit of time.
We haven't,
like,
developed into any of the cliques
and I like a lot of the cliques
in the different areas.
Like,
I'll always go in
and get along with them
and,
like,
find them good company,
enjoy their gossip and then move on and um it's like where he watched sons of anarchy no uh there's
like guys i can't remember what they call them but there's sometimes just in the area and they
float in and they'll join the sons of anarchy for like an episode and then they'll fuck off on the
bike again i feel like we always float in and fit in with all the different groups of comedians around the country without ever being part of any of them
either that or everyone's snakes huh either that or everyone's snakes i think so all right do you
think there's there's bound to be a few snakes out there like absolutely slagging you off i think
there was i don't think there's going to be many I think I think comedians are too Insecure
Most of the times they're just hating themselves
But
Would you be mad if you found out someone was slagging you off
Like if it got back to you
It depends who
Because I
I don't think
I didn't think I'd take it that personally
Yeah it'd be hard to
It depends who
it was and depends for what like reason but most of the time i would just be like i want to you
know what i've probably pissed you off at least once in the 16 years what what if it was like i'm
just gonna like pick any name and any reason with the hat right like what if like phil chapman said
he ignored you ignored his last okay i don't know who Phil Chapman is, so fine.
But he's got to run telling people that you ignored his lass.
Yeah, I probably did.
I'm not going to defend myself.
Fine, he's allowed to hit me.
Next.
Right.
What if Terzilias said that you just sat down in the green room
and ate his sandwich and didn't even fucking mention it, just ate his sandwich in the green room.
And like he couldn't have any of the other sandwiches because his was halal.
He's going around saying that.
I mean, I might have done.
I'm high a lot of the time.
I do eat.
He didn't ask if he could have any.
I do just start eating then.
I mean, it feels like you can find me on it.
But yeah, man, if I ate a sandwich,
I'd like to bitch about that.
Fair enough.
I eat no beef.
No kosher beef.
What about Sarah Keyworth
was just disgruntled
because like,
you pointed out
a lass's tits to Vak
as you thought
she'd like them as well.
Oh,
oh, oh, oh.
Oh, this one's plausible as well.
The only way it's not plausible
is I feel like Sarah Kingsworth would be like,
those are absolutely great.
So yeah, maybe I would have a problem with this
because then I'd be like,
oh, she must have not,
you know what, beef.
Because she's, I feel like she's misconstrued me i was definitely doing it like in a jokey way like i'm not i'm married i'm doing that to you in the like i'm here i'm a
parody of a of a straight man awkwardly hanging out with a non-binary but just oddly you happen
to point out some amazing tits that even in the world
that you're not building
for yourself
are great boobs
alright
that was my intent
and if she took the intent
it's me being like
leery like
oh who the fucking
great are those
and that's how she's pitched me
beef
alright
what if
Rosie Jones calls you hack
Rosie Jones
can't even call us hack
yeah
let her have it you fucking Jones calls you hack. Rosie just got in and called us hack.
Let her have it.
You fucking come in.
That's not a quality.
I just stopped doing more hack stuff.
I'm like, it was a shoe fit.
Shoe fits, I'll wear it.
The orthopedic shoe.
All right.
Alex Edelman listened to the podcast and he thought the Jew stuff that you were doing
was deeply inappropriate.
Oh, if Judelman called me an anti-Semitism,
I'd have to...
First of all, I'd call him a dirty Jew.
That'd be the first and foremost.
The absolute first thing I would do.
He allows the problems.
Because he would phone me and he would call me Slostica.
Which he does.
That is his nickname.
I can turn that air conditioning off. He calls you Slostica which he does that is his nickname I can turn that air conditioning off
he calls you Slostica
yeah he calls me Slostica
if Edelman tells me
to check my anti-semitism
then
then I'm probably
checking my anti-semitism
if I go back
and reflect
that it's not being
then
then beef
and then also
yeah beef
beef
what if
Dane Baptiste
wrote a
passive aggressive
not even passive aggressive
directly
directly aggressive
there's nothing passive about it
text on Instagram
story threat
to your life
I mean I'd probably
fool the police
and also
and also
beef
you wouldn't just
ring your mates
no
if you threatened
my family on Instagram
no man I'm ruining your life and the way to ruin your life is with the law like and just ring your mates? No, if you threaten my family on Instagram, no, man.
I'm ruining your life
and the way to ruin your life is with the law.
Like...
I would always go out to be mates before the cops.
And I'll see you in jail.
You want an effective job done?
Ramesh Ranganathan going around
telling everyone that you're tasting rapid shit.
I mean, I did call Drake Jake,
so I am a little bit out of touch with the current crop.
I think he is qualified to question me tasting rap music
because he's deeper than I am.
Okay.
He's deeper than I am.
Okay.
What if Danny McLaughlin was saying that here,
doing one of his bits?
Oh.
You'd just ring him up, wouldn't you? Yeah, yeah, 100%.
I'm calling Danny, I'll be like,
all right, which bit?
Which bit, so I can drop it.
Yeah, yeah, which bit?
Fair enough.
Sorry, man, I'll let you have it, yeah.
That would be just an easy conversation
wouldn't it
yeah I think so
yeah yeah
but then also
knowing Danny McLaughlin
would be like
you have been
bitching about me
for a week though
haven't you
don't lie
hey Danny
you can have the joke
don't lie to me
before this phone call
you've been bitching
about me
quite a few
doesn't it be
Shillory
yeah that's right
Matt Reid's been
going around
telling people
that your last flirt's with him Matt Reid's been going around telling people that
your last flirt's with him
to be fair
to be fair that does sound like something Matt Reid
would do and I think I would just take it as
banter the entire time
Dave Longley
Dave Longley going round
telling everyone you're a joke thief
if Dave Longley
is trolling us in real life
Dave Longley going round telling everyone
that you're going to be on the next
and he's genuinely telling people
you're getting congratulations messages about it
that you're going to be on the next and he's genuinely telling people like you're getting congratulations messages about it that you're going to be
on the next season
of Brits Got Talent.
If he starts spreading that rumour.
Because that's just trolling.
That's not beef.
Like that's not slagging us off
or something like that.
I just started a rumour
that like I was engaging
a throuple with him.
They find out
that he also started that rumour.
You're like,
I can't do this with you
they make it for the shoe fits
alright
Ed Gamble's
saying that
your fucking
train had collections
and knock off
oh
first of all
I would
I would be annoyed
you know what
probably beef actually
yeah
because
because of his proximity to fucking
A-caster
my insecurity
and my thing
I'd be like
this is
this is
this isn't just you
this is something else
this is you and your mates
and if it's gonna be you
and your mates
it's me and my mates
versus you's then
and then
and then absolutely beef
em
I think we'll have to like
challenge them with intellect
yeah
em
Phil Wang going around
telling people you can't cook?
No, that's it.
No, no, no.
Phil, why aren't you going around
telling everyone that you make Natalie
cook all your meals for you?
Oh, like that I'm a bit chauvinistic
with her marriage.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's the rumours he's spreading about you.
I don't make her.
She's just a bit of cook.
So it just defaults to her.
It's just happening over time, gradually.
I just get a takeaway.
No offence.
Phil Wang's now like,
all right, beef.
All right, with green peppers, please.
All right, let's do a couple more.
Chris Ramsey's going around saying
that he stole his style
for a stand up
he kind of
take a turn off
when you're just
doing the same thing
Kazimini me
oh
I wasn't
annoyed until that and he said that on TV did he yeah Mini-Me Oh Oh I wasn't annoyed
Until that
And he said that
On TV did he
Yeah
It was on his
Live podcast
It was
Oh fuck
The live pod
That's a big
That's like fucking
That's like going after
What's that Asian
That's like going after
BTS at this point
K-pop
The K-pop band
Ramsey
Are me and
Oh god right So if the Ramseys Startsey are me and oh god right
so if the Ramsey
start beefing me and Cara
I'll be throwing up her
and then
and then Rosie
throws in
did you hear Cara
was on the podcast
on one episode as well
oh
first of all
Cara would be
absolutely devastated
by all of this
by Chris and Rosie
coming after her
why Rosie coming after her
yeah yeah
she loves Rosie Ramsey
I think we got
I mean I don't think
we'll win it
but I think
it's got to be
it's got to be beef
but here's the thing
I can turn
like I can turn it
right
Ramsey's absolutely
have the love
of the nation
at that point
they're getting the UK
on site
they're not getting
Europe and America
I don't
they might get a bit of Australia
I think they've got some
crossover there
but I don't know I realise you think they've got some crossover there but
I don't know
I realise you think
you've got some flex
but they're
well you know what
if they start
they're crushing the island
that you live on
that's right
your home's a home game
to them
if they start a beef
they'd be devastated
on a personal level
but like
and like
Cara would
Cara be good
but I think
we could
like at that point we've got to look at each other and be like oh okay we can now turn I think we could like at that point
we've got to look at each other
and be like
oh okay
we can now turn this
into a career for us
that's the only thing
we've got to do at this point
or
or we do the one thing
that Cara is absolutely
incapable of doing
which is
the thing we suggested before
which is
let's turn the other cheek
like
as upset as she'd be
if I went
we could just leave it
and let them win
she'd be like
and then we'd go down
oh
you just can't
count them any more
to her
start selling merch
what if
what if
Russell Brand
started saying
he'd been slagging
them off on dispatches
I feel like
I'm biting me
on your podcast
you fucking coward
oh right
shall we go
gig in fucking
Tacoma
oh aye
I've got a gig
to do
yep
oh
I mean
it didn't hurt
obviously
but you said
ow
obviously
that didn't hurt
well you said
ow though
aye but just
like in a
in a oopsie
kind of way
you didn't say
oops
oops was there
oh was there
yeah
we're gonna
chop that bit off
no I mean
I wouldn't
I'm not soft