Sloss and Humphries On The Road - Is Jay Slater Alright? (Ft. Jack Traynor )
Episode Date: October 9, 2024Two years ago Muggins spoke on the podcast about a young urchin he picked up off the streets after seeing him do an open spot and added him to some professional line-ups to kick start his career, two ...years later young Jack Traynor is taking the prison scene by storm. They shun the subscribed religions and speculate alternative ideas about life and creation. Jack tells about how he ended up in China from the promise of a free meal. Â Good luck to our international audience deciphering these two exotic regional accents. Â Join Kai on Tour www.kaihumphries.com
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Welcome to Sloss and Humphreys on the road. First of all, I want to thank everybody who has subscribed to Patreon.
I appreciate that. To everybody who hasn't subscribed and you're listening late on the free channels, get your finger out.
It's three quid. You can part with it and you'll get to enjoy one extra episode per week.
This episode, we've got Jack Traynor, who I discovered as a new comedian a couple of years ago.
He's come on in leaps and bounds and he's come to join me on the podcast to talk about his time as a foreign exchange drug dealer in china the prison gigs he's been doing
um it's a it's an interesting conversation i think you're gonna enjoy it um and also i want
to tell you before the podcast starts you can feel it coming you can feel it brewing i'm gonna try
and sell your tickets i've got a tour uh starting this week if you listen to the podcast
as it comes out this is the week my tour starts
10th of October
in Bristol
11th of October in
Bath, 12th of October in
London in the Leicester Square Theatre
which might be sold out
now because I've just done the Palladium opening
for Daniel Sloss so if even a fraction
of them bought tickets then it is full but please go and check there may still be tickets left and then on the 13th of
october i'm going to be in chelmsford so you've got four gigs to choose from this week and if you
want to come to any of the shows between now and december go check my website kai humphries.com
and if you're listening to this intro you might i might sound a little bit distracted and that's
because there's a dog trying to lick my face. If you're watching it,
you're welcome.
Yeah,
please come
join me on
tour.
Go check my
website.
I'm coming
all over Europe,
a lot of the
UK and yeah,
starts in Bristol
on the 10th.
I'll see you
there.
Whoa.
Sloss and
Humphreys on
the road.
Muggins and
cream,
cream and
muggins,
straight thuggin',
livin' the
dream.
That's our
intro.
Fuckin'
muggles.
Tickling the
clit inside your head that makes you laugh.
Woo-hoo!
Ha-ha-ha!
They said it can't be done.
Are we in the same seats?
That's hack.
Aw, muggles.
Accidental rim job in the park.
Kiss, kiss, kiss.
Or am I just being cynical?
Just muggled it up on fuckin' Mugglepedia.
Where have you been since 9-11?
Right, Jack, can we just talk about what's just happened?
Aye, I'm gettin getting deja vu here.
Aye, we've just restarted the podcast after starting it, because why?
We started the podcast, everything was going great,
and then we realised that Kai hadn't plugged his mic in.
And not just that, there was no cable attached to it.
It wasn't just like there was a loose end,
like is this meant to be plugged into the Rodecaster?
I thought yous were doing well,
like yous have got some mad bluetooth set up or something
no no mate
I've just done a
Kai
I mean
we've talked about
on the last podcast
as well
like it's getting
Kyle doing a Kai
every time
I do shit like that
all the time
like it's the point
now where I think
it might be medical
I don't know if
yous can make fun
of us anymore
I thought I hadn't
started the camera
there
I genuinely thought
I hadn't started the camera I'm genuinely thought I hadn't started the camera
I'm having a fucking bad one
So anyway, let's reintroduce you Jack
Because we've talked about you on this podcast before
Because, was it two years ago?
Aye, I'm about two and a half years in
So it would have been two years
Two years ago I picked you up off the streets
Like quite literally picked you up off the streets
I'd seen you on Red Raw
And I fucking knew you on Red Raw and I
I fucking knew you had
like
fucking class straight away
like you know how sometimes
you watch an act
on stage
and you're just like
oh they might figure it out
eventually if they keep going
I felt like you had
something straight away
like you
I appreciate that
you just had that edge
right
I was forced to have
that edge man
right
school in Cumbernauld
I couldn't fight
I couldn't run fast
like I had to just like
take the piss out of people
like be the funny one
it's currency isn't it
oh 100%
because yeah
you've got a very
bullyable face
oh whiff it I do
proper bullyable face
you need to mix
someone's life
hell fucking words
I lean into it as well
like a Venus flytrap
I walk about
looking at this
because you'll have
you'll have seen
the picture
of me when I
was a kid
big prescription
glasses
I guess that
hangs up
I had to be
fucking ready
with like
was it Leslie
Nielsen or
fucking Steve
Martin
Roxanne
remember that
where he had
a big nose
nah I was
born in 98
man that's
fucking
it was even
before my
time this
I'm talking about
the film
Medawar
I used to watch
but eh
he had all of the jokes
for having a big nose
before like
it got to him
like so he
like people would
take the piss out of his nose
and then he would
fucking ate my lid
and just do it himself
that's how I enjoy
the roast battles so much
like
it's no
like especially
when you're up against
like your pal
or something like that
like you've done them with your pals like a million times like it's just your actual gid when you're going up against like your pal or something like you've done them your pals like a million times like it's just you're your actual giddy
just like gloves on this guy up in front of everybody it's so funny because there's a there's
a have a word roast coat attack with this off of air before when the bank wasn't plugged in um
does it have a word roast coming up in liverpool on saturday and i kind of I can't even get anything to watch
because it's my
London show
of my tour
so I can't be there
but like
I've been fucking
on speed dial
for every cunt
have you?
I've been like
Littlefinger
who for?
I've been playing
every fucking side man
like I've had
obviously Sloss is doing it
so I've been feeding
people like
I've not been feeding
them jokes
but I've been giving
them the fucking
subject matter
you're like America.
You're doing, like, proxy roasts.
You're, like, going in with Iran to get them to roast them.
It's a proper proxy war, aye.
And I'm fucking...
And then I went and went to Danny's last night
as if I hadn't just been feeding everybody lines about him
and then fucking digging everybody else.
Like, with him, I've been, honestly,
I've put my stamp on that fucking roast
with him never being there.
Just whacked away whistling.
I've hurt anybody's feelings.
Nobody knows it was me.
I mean, if you're not even there,
it's just like chopping a grenade
into the rim of a car.
Yeah, just like,
driving it away.
So, when I say I picked it up
off the street,
it was almost literal
because I'd seen you on,
I'd seen you on Red Raw,
knew your class,
didn't even fucking
pick up your name.
I know, just fucking,
I had like a mental note
of that fucking ginger lad
with a mullet
who smashed it at the open mate
keep an eye on him
and then
I was down in Globe Bar
it was Globe Bar wasn't it
it was during the Fringe
during the Fringe
2022
I'd went in early
because there was a Newcastle match on
I was there also
watching the Newcastle match
and you were
watching the Newcastle match
with one eye
and with the other eye
you were supporting
whoever I was playing
against Rangers
I'm outing you are you outing me then I mean I look like this anyway I was playing against Rangers I'm outing you
aye you're outing me
I mean I look like
this anyway
I have no chance
I'm fucking outing you
on the podcast
you've got a side
in the sectarian violence
it was PSV Rangers
and I think it was
a Europa League qualifier
I don't even think
it was like the main
tournament
because it was like
would have been in August
so
aye aye
I thought it would have
been a qualifier
PSV and I remember
watching that with you
I think you were in with
Colin and Nelson
which I believe that club
used to be the Phillips Factory
it was a Phillips Factory
it was like
it was like a works team
in Bocombe
PSV Eindhoven
that's mental
isn't it
aye
that's like Spartak innit
they were like a
they were
Spart
they were all electricians
aye
that would be a
that would be a bastard
wasn't it right
I think like
always on this
podcast there's not
a like I've said it
a million times
doing the lens right
not a very big
crossover with
Daniel Sloss's fans
and football fans
so we'll make this
brief yeah but
imagine you worked
for the fucking
Phillips factory and
you had your game
and all that and
they started doing
really well and
then they just
started signing
cuts
you need to go
back to the
back shift
you're fucking
grafting because
you haven't got a
place in the team
anymore because
you must have
looted by fucking
Edgar Davids
you would play
at your skin
but like if you
know that if you
won that cup or
whatever like and
you would be in the
team next season
you'd be pulling
off absolutely
everything so you
wouldn't have to
do a 95
so you were in
there fucking
swearing at the
telly because
some Dutch team
wasn't doing well enough
against your nemesis.
And I was like,
oh yeah,
I come from Red Raw.
And we started chatting
and then we went,
we didn't heckle Cullen
that night,
did we?
But we did let him know
we were there.
Basically what happened
is you,
yous were jumping out
to meet somebody,
I don't know,
going to the bar or something.
You were like,
can yous,
it was me,
I was with Paddy Linton
that night.
And then you were like, oh, can you keep an eye on our seats? And I think we just sat down next to the bar or something, you were like, can you, it was me, I was with Paddy Linton that night and then you were like,
oh,
can you keep an eye on our seats?
And I think we just sat down
and that season didn't leave.
Aye.
Yeah.
And then we went,
oh,
I've just ended up following you
about like a week out.
We went to see Cullen
and we sat at the back
like fucking,
like giggling,
like out of sequence
with the crowd.
Like,
I don't know how you fucking,
you mumbled something to us and I was fucking howling and it was out of beat with a crowd. Like, I don't know how you fucking mumbled something to us,
and I was fucking howling, and it was out of beat with a joke,
and Colin was just, like, fucking looking out of shape in his head.
What was it again?
Was it when he was on?
It was when he was on.
Would there have been Ouija board?
He does a bit about a Ouija board.
He does a bit about a Ouija board, and you're like, this Ouija's board.
Which to the Americans, that's slang for Glaswegian.
I'm not even Glaswegian.
I'm like, the scousers would call me a wool,
which basically means it's like you're outside,
you're nowhere in the city.
Like I'm a G postcode.
Oh, so I'm a wool.
I'm a Newcastle wool.
I'm blithe.
Because I'm NE24.
I wasn't born near the river.
I think that's like, I don't know.
It's not as like, they're really like passionate
about that in Liverpool. I don't think anybody cares. as like they're really like passionate about that in Liverpool
I don't think anybody cares
I saw two Geordies
fighting outside
Gilded Bloom
during the fringe
on Bristol Square
over who was the most Geordie
it was a comedian
called John Smith
and just some random
Geordie lad
and they just started
proper raising their voice
and pushing and shoving
and one of them was like
I'm not a Geordie
me postcode's NE1
and the other one was like
I live by the Tyne you can see the Tyne out the window and they were arguing over who was the most Geordie but it was like i'm not a jory me postcodes anyone and the other one was like i live by the
time you can see the time out the window and they were arguing over who was the most jory but it
was like proper like free in the morning fucking shit and if they if they had a scrap they would
have probably been sound in the morning like that level of just fucking working class just
fucking fighting's part of our blood helping each other up like we're both jordy yeah you're hard
like after you've got a nosebleed now
like you are Geordie
drop a comment
I felt that punch
you're definitely a Geordie
sorry for saying that
you weren't
I didn't know
you fucking punched
me a heed
so
we had that night
we went there
fucking late and live
so I took you
I took you backstage
and late and live
so you were like
fucking open spot
so this was all like
this was all like
just on the fucking
like out
like a sperm
like on the outside
of the fucking
over we trying to get
into the comedy industry
and just like
wheedling
you're just wheedling
at different angles
and then I just
fucking come in
and just kick the hole
in the door for you
and just stuff me in
and there you go
and there we went
and fucking
nobody was drinking
it late in life
we went
I wasn't even on the bill
and I just went back
because I just fucking knew it would be a bit of a hangout wasn't even on the bill I just went back because I knew
it would be a bit of a hangout
that was a right off man
I remember
I basically asked to leave
and then
I was like
oh no I've fucked that
and they'd always thought
I'd kind of fucked it with them
but then they
looked me to play it
last day
I was like
did you not start
filling your pockets
with booze
because it was like
it's a free bar backstage
at the late in life
but it's like
that's the sort of stuff that'll stop being a free bar.
Of course, come along and start filling that pocket.
I was six months in just like, just seeing pound signs.
I got a couple of weeks into the fringe.
I was like, I'm rooked here and there.
It's just fucking, I bought a gold at the end of the day.
Every time you're having a drink, you're like, that's seven pun, do instead.
I was taking my feet.
In a plastic cup.
Plastic cup, that's seven pun.
I'm getting in here. So you were
fucking filled your pockets.
A lot of people were asking us about that the next day.
Did he bring some
fucking junkie off the street
to read the late live bar?
I'd say
aye, but I think say aye.
But remember that I was peering
forward because that was me at some point.
So we did that.
And then I just fucking released you
back into the wild again.
And it was like a couple of weeks later.
In fact, you know what?
It was definitely a couple of weeks later
because it was the beginning of September.
I was booking the comedy tent
at Linda's Fawn Festival,
which is a class little festival
up in Northumberland
just on the coast
and it's like
you definitely even need your phone
because if you lose your mates
you'll find the cons
you stumble into your pals
don't you
and em
I had a spot still
to fill on that
and I was like
oh fuck it
I'll just like
I'll just give her a jacket
full fee
and I
I was like
I fucking
I'm like
I'm sure like at the time
you weren't
doing that many gigs
for money
I think
and then I rang you
with a three figure gig
aye
I think the most I'd had
for a gig before
that was like
20, 30 quid
aye
and then you had
offered me that
I was mid
I was in work
I was power washing
like
blocks on the ground
and then my phone goes
and I seen it was you
and just turned it off looked at the text and then just went and handed the power wash and I seen it was you and just turned it off
looked at the text
and then just went
and handed the power box
and I was like
mate I'm going
I am aware
because I think you were like
it was something like
I offered you the gig
and you were like
I had to quit my job
and then it was like
two minutes later
I've quit my job
you fucking
because you were scheduled in
for the weekend
I've seen the money
it was free figures
I was like
that's me man
I was phoning my mum
we've made it
and all that
I told you I'm having to buy red panties
it's red panty night ma'am
how much is left in the mortgage
and then I come to pick you up
for the festival and just fucking
instantly
introduce you to my fucking most
reprobate jolly mate, Sopper
Sopper Sopper
who's probably
fucking listening
to you right now
say hi Sopper
wave to your friend
Sopper
he'll be
so we could
say stuff like that
no no no
no no
fucking thinks he's
Snoop Dogg
but he's a little bit
scared of a fucking
ratamood
he was on cigarettes
he was smoking
extra long skins
cigarettes
erm
so I stopped
what was there
with Ali's fucking
squaddy mates
aye that was
and I just fucking
chucked you in
just going yeah
this is where you're
camping with these guys
you just let me go
like a babe blade
you just
I wish off
and we had a belt
I tell you
what a fucking weekend
Nelson was there
and Ali
come up for a brief visit I on a fucking weekend Nelson was there in an alley
come up for a brief visit
I remember
I would just
I was like
I would be drunk
and then we'd just
turn round to you
like halfway through
the festival
and be like mate
we're like dancing
and be like mate
are we getting paid for this
I couldn't believe it
I'm at work
is this work
because you never had
an opportunity
to call at work yet
because you were
spending more on train tickets
than you were getting
on the ferry
I'd never had to write
an invoice or anything before. I was like, this is professional
stuff. It's like a cafe needle.
I'm a writer.
I'm a writer. I've got to give you
alarm guns off at six in the morning because I've got to start
writing. Hey, I did that, you know, when I first went
full time. I would fucking set
up shop like I was doing a nine to five
because I just felt like I had to be fucking doing something.
I was like, if this is a job, I have to do it.
I had this blog that I did every day where it was called news for dummies
yeah it might still exist i don't i don't that'll be good for podcast material if you could sit and
go through that man man it's probably problematic like i'm talking like 2011 here it wasn't jack
it was a different time back then it was a fucking fucking different time. And I know how much my worldview
has changed my opinions on shit now.
We definitely need to find him then.
If someone hit him,
we've got to find him.
Oh, it exists.
I don't think...
Yeah.
Someone find it.
I don't think...
I kept it as news for dummies for a bit.
And then it stopped being about news
and I've done a couple of blogs
because I think in 2014
I posted on the book that I've got,
The Inside Daniel Sloss,
to our journal, right? That wasn't a book. I've got the Inside Daniel Sloss to our journal right
that wasn't a book
I put that together
as a book
in lockdown
it was a blog
I just put it as a sequence
of blogs
and in lockdown
I was like
we don't know if we're
getting paid anytime soon
try and fucking just
sell your work
I hadn't started
at that point
but I had a few like
comedians on Instagram
and stuff like that
there was folk doing it
man like Twitch streaming
Bait and Bread
cameos
lemonade stands
they were a fucking
I was fucking
knitting mate
I was knitting
online
and fucking
auctioning off
me knitting
you have an
Etsy store
I had an
Etsy store
in fact you
know what I
still do
because that's
where I sell
like because I
had that open
that's where I
had me the
book selling
from Etsy
so I had the
book selling
from Etsy
I did for a
bit but like
it's fucking
pointless because
like I ended up just
giving them away
I would knit them
on stream and then
just fucking
like do a draw
to anyone that
subscribed
I draw them out
the hat and I send
them the knitwear
so the subscribers
because they're like
paying for a fee
anyway to watch the
stream even though
it's a free stream
it's optionally
donating so I was
like fuck man I'm
selling this knit
and like they're
paying for it anyway
but I kind of give
everybody one so I'll just auction it to one of them so I just did it that way so I was like fuck man I'm selling this they're paying for it anyway but I kind of give everybody one
so I'll just auction it
to one of them
so I just did it that way
and I did like
auction off like
little bits of fucking
just like swatches
with a badge on it
so you're not like
buying a badge
but it was on a swatch of knitting
because that was the only thing
I could rat loot quick to sell
so like I had them on
for like a couple of quid
and then I had my books on
because everyone was just
trying to find a way
to just make an extra bit
of fucking coin
not knowing when you could gig again
I think I
played a blinder doing that because I always wanted to
start comedy and then for some reason
just never worked up the courage
and then Covid happened and as soon
as we came out of that I was like nah it's fucking
I've got to start now but I don't know
you hear some people talk about the comedy
world like pre-Covid and it just sounds like the
wild west especially up in Scotland.
Part of me is, like, kind of gutted
I missed some of the mad, like, cult gigs,
like, doing our Jonglers or stuff like that.
Ah, yeah, I had that.
That was a rite of passage for a bit.
It was like, like,
that's what Danny got slated a little bit off his peers
for just fucking bypassing it.
He didn't work his way through the Jonglers gig.
He might have done, like, one or two,
but he never needed it
he instantly got back
into his road show
and just had that thing
of like
didn't even work up
to the headlining clubs
was just touring off
his own name
before that
so he bypassed
the junglers shit
but I was like
fucking that's why
I was forged in fire
in them gigs
it's nice
because anytime a gig goes a little bit hostile or hands a little bit leery I'm like I was forged in fire in them gigs yeah put it in your chest aye like it's nice because like you know
any time
a gig goes a little bit
hostile now
or like
and it's a little bit
leery
I'm like
I've got the tools
in the van for this
aye
I never use them
that often
it's probably
what I could compare
well having not done one
the closest thing
I could compare
sounds like doing
a gig in prison
because I
I remember like
when you start out
you're just doing
anything for stage time
you'll like host a bingo evening in a retirement
home, you'll do anything
I always recommend that as well, man, gig to the guy
at the Allenhead Garage if you listen to it, day 25
100%, we got a run
of prison gigs
and it was like, we were all doing
fives and we're getting a run at like 20 minutes
here, and it's not as if
you die on your arse or like you do bad material
what are they going to do, tweet about it?
I use that one phone call
exactly
phone chottle
pulling a phone out of his arse till being like three stars
do you know what I mean, no chance
but you would go in and you would have to
just like, you would have to be like on your toes
and stuff like that
do you crowd work with them?
since I've got more comfortable in Do you crowd work with them? You need to,
since I've got more comfortable and stuff, you do.
Do you dare ask?
Do you dare ask that question that could cause a lot of problems?
Selling a Rangers?
No, I'm not that brave.
I'm not that.
There's some folk that sit like, the thing that
blew my mind was the perception
I had, I was going to be like, right, they'll be in the orange jumpsuits and all that, or like they'll be
in like the same sort of trackies. I walked in, first prison gig I done, guy in a Newcastle
top. Oh yeah of course aye, what's he doing up in Glasgow, drug run? A hundred's got it
going. But aye it's fucking, just doing them I think is probably the closest you can get
to a Jonglers. I asked one guy what he he'd done like I was like alright mate what did you do
and he just very sheepishly
was like police assault
and it's hard being like
well mate
it's terrible
ah yeah
you should
change
reform
shouldn't be doing that
get in
get in the record
so
like
what size gigs
were tacking then
like how many
how many then
so it just all depends
like
if you go to one of the bigger ones
like some
some like Berlini
we've done Berlini
during the Glasgow Comedy Festival
which is the big one in Glasgow
em
and there's
they've got like an old
sort of
old style building
and we've done one in their theatre
and I think there's maybe
about over a hundred people
oh that's good
yeah
because I don't know why
but I just thought it would be like
I don't know like take two dozen
you didn't
want enough of them to cause a riot
like you want like a
kettleable amount like a manageable amount
that you could just
even if there's not that many there's like
weirdly I'll always get the
interest of thought I just go and like
you could all just leave if you wanted to
aye
there's only like three doors
aye
I've only seen like six guards
is it
is it
is it not like
off prison break
where fucking
lay as a fucking
security
you get through
and you fucking
tattoos all over your body
to make it out
you're just like
you can go out there
if you want
but you're in loads of trouble
if you do
you're fucked
if you do that
you probably wouldn't even
shawshank it if you don't dig out you could just walk out aye if you do you're fucked if you do that you probably wouldn't even shawshank it
if you don't dig out
you could just walk out
aye
if they all just decided
look we're leaving
you'd be fucking tempted
if it was easy like
I know
to just go
I think it's Germany
you don't
it's not illegal
to try and escape prison
you don't get any more
charge or anything like that
because it's like natural
you just want to be free
there's
there's
I've also just
pulled that out
my arse
i'm like 85%
of germans
this is what the
podcast is this is
just us fucking
bullshit and we're
confident um
there's a uh
twitter account
instagram account
that does uh
swedish
swedish prison
or british
student accommodation
and it's fucking impossible
to tell the difference. I've seen some of them
they look better than some of the
places you stay starting out in comedy
going to do gigs and stuff like that.
Hey did he not study in China?
Aye aye. Because I mean you tell us
this when we're on drugs. Aye.
But I think I've remembered that
you went to it on like a foreign exchange?
It was, aye so I was in school. You went to it on a foreign exchange? It was...
Aye, so I was in school.
I went on a scholarship programme,
so cheers for that, taxpayers.
Oh, there we go.
Don't think you'll get that one back, I'm not going to lie.
No, it's not going to benefit society.
Smoking and drinking, I probably paid it back.
Ah, yeah.
But aye, so I didn't really know what I was doing at school at the time.
I tried to leave to become an electrician and ended up in China.
Life of hands is stuff like that sometimes.
Any opportunity comes up.
Was it one of them things where you're like,
I don't really want to do it, but I can't not?
Yeah, they handed out the form and they were like,
look, we'll fly you over.
You go to the classes.
You get a lump sum of money every month to be there.
I was like, fuck it.
So it was like a scam. You end up fucking packing toys for happy meals i know i in a sheen factory like full nanoracks and all that um not the like i'd like i took a bunch of piss take subjects
going into my last year at school because i fully intended to just leave so i think i had
home economics oh why what do you think
of home economics
because that's the
like is that food
is that food
that's the new
that was your
generation's way
of calling it
food technology
just to get more
lads to date
but they would
also you would
also do
it was kind of
it was kind of
kind of weird
looking back now
I don't know
even this wasn't
even that long ago
but it was like
home economics
and it was like
cooking and
knitting and
all that sort of shit
like you would just
sit there like a wee
sweetie wife like
try to pretend to your
pals you weren't
enjoying it
so it was like a
trad housewife class
I loved it
it was class
didn't you
could you say
a trad housewife
in a catholic school
as well
just stitching things
and then they're like
don't use condoms
class
mate I had one year
in a catholic school
I moved schools
because fucking
I got me bully
battered I'm sure I've told this story on the podcast schools because fucking, I got me bully battered.
I'm sure I've told this story on the podcast,
so I'll bridge it.
Me bully got battered off somebody from up at six.
I've heard that.
So the year after,
you met the lad that chinned me bully?
I told you.
He was at Linda's phone.
I lit up because I was like,
you chinned me bully,
Mala Brown.
Ah, you remember that?
Ah, yeah.
You've seen the lad that did it. So he chinned me bully, Mala Brown. Ah, you remember that? Ah, yeah, you've seen the lad that did it.
So he chinned the bully.
He still hangs about you, doesn't he?
You employ him as your security all through those days.
You fucking hard-cunt him as well.
Like, big lad and all, but also like martial arts,
but big and equipped.
And he fucking kicked this lad out of our... and Andrew Winters was the lad he chinned.
I remember standing over fucking Andrew Winters
like fucking Smokey on Friday,
like, you got knocked the fuck out.
Like Paul Heyman in Brock Lesnar.
And I was fucking billy walking around school
for the next fucking next year.
And then it was the year after.
I was like, fuck.
Malaz gonna be gone gone but when us is still
gonna be here i'm fucked and i played football for a team where a bunch of my mates from the
football team were at saint benedictus cups i was like i've got pals there i could just go there
and i went to a catholic school man gone from gone from ridley high school where like if it
was in america i would have had metal detectors to like a catholic school Where like people say grace Before the lessons
And all that
Before
It's fucking bananas
Like
That was
I felt like I couldn't swear
In that school
Aye
I was like
I have to change my personality
Completely
Some of the
Aye
Because they would get you
To do a lot of the Jesus stuff
I remember they would make you pray
After lunch
And I sort of checked out
With the whole Catholicism thing
Because
You would thank God
And you were like why
Eileen
the dinner lady made it out of the fucking bank number
because they just struggle with that concept
as a wee boy
and this is kind of so noncy coming from a
41 year old but the lasses were hotter
what you've got to bear in mind
is I was their age at the time
I was their age at the time Jack
but the Catholic
everybody find that
and
come up with your
own blog post
and this is it
Catholic school girls
are hot
having
nerdy teenagers
I was just
it was just
I got expelled
from that school
what for?
I was one of the
fucking nerdy kids
in Ridley
it was just a number
of things
that asked us to leave more than got expelled.
It was a number of things about the straw that broke the camel's back
as I started a food fight on the bus.
The bus to school I had.
A food fight in a Catholic school?
Were you just frisbee and holy bread?
You know what?
I wasn't even wasting food.
I was fucking using another 19 pence hair gel that you get from the corner store,
is what we always called it.
That's what we always called it back then
we called it
corner store gel
right
it would fucking
scoop it out
and just fucking
lash it on people
and then people
were just
never getting that
out of the end
either
yeah
everything's just
rock hard
for fucking
and so people
were just like
rummaging through
their bags
for shit to throw back
so like
fucking Catholic school
where's me
fucking fruit salad
and fucking
every cunt
pointed the finger
at me
he started it
and I got wheeled
in for that
because I remember
I remember
all I had in my
fucking pocket
was my bus fare home
and I fucking
like I barely
took a bag to school
I'm fucking
I would just
get in fucking
I'm here
I'm here
I fucking
has anyone got a pen like that's what I was like in school I was fucking go in I'm here that's enough has anyone got a pen
that's what I was
like in school
I'm always
surprised man
I was similar
I would always
I would have
stuff and I'd be
like here we go
starting the Monday
by the Thursday
it'd be fucking
everything
and by the end
of class
you've just got
all these folded
up bits of paper
in your pocket
because you've
got nowhere
to put your
fucking homework
and sheets
and all that
so I remember I had like my fucking bus and sheets and all that. So I remember,
I remember I had like
my fucking bus fare home
and I just spent it on sweets
and whacked.
I walked back
because it was like,
it was in a different town
the way I moved schools.
It was like fucking Bedlington
instead of Blythe.
Just imagine you like
hiking home
with the wee hobo,
like the wee stick
and the bandana.
Ah yeah,
like my fucking
two-hour post-op.
Two-hour post- poster with a bindle
I couldn't remember
what that was called
for the life of me
gallivanting
no the bindle
yeah I didn't
I didn't know
what that was called
when I knocked it up
when I made it
I'd done one of me
fucking moves
with a fucking
like the
like I did at the beginning
with the cable there
where I couldn't find
me fucking phone
for the life of us
during that photo shoot
and I thought I'd lost it and I'd fucking just put everything that I had in the bindle so I was like I was looking for me cable there where i couldn't find my fucking phone for the life of us during that photo shoot and i
thought i'd lost it and i'd fucking just put everything that i had in the bindle so i was
like looking i was looking for my phone and i was fucking i'm trying to leave i'm like i don't know
where my phone is and then i found it in the bindle and i was like and my car keys and my wallet and
like fucking all my world literally my worldly belongings in a bindle and i fucking spent like
fucking 10-15 minutes in the studio looking at the halibut from my phone
before I opened that
because I remember
fucking having a break
at my parents
and I'm like
oh when they find out
they're going to lose
their benefits
because I'm not in school
Catholic school as well
you've got that extra
like God banishing you
as well
yeah
I got in trouble
for fucking
I didn't get into heaven
now
that was mad
being a non-Catholic
in a Catholic school
because I just had to
watch mass from the sidelines
because everyone
had a bit of Jesus' body
there was always that as well
I remember there was
a Mormon in our class
was there?
blew my mind
just an outsider
just a different religion
what's your God?
what is their God?
their God's just like
a fucking
it's a rehashed Jesus
isn't it?
I've seen Book of Mormon
so this is my...
And I've been to Salt Lake City
and walked around Mormon Mecca
because I had this thing, right,
where Elliot Steele was going through a dry patch with girls
and I went around all the different faiths of places
and went and lit a candle
and prayed for an Instagram story.
So I was in Salt Lake City,
I prayed to the Mormon God for Elliot to get laid
and then I was in Rome and I went to the Vatican
I was in the Vatican like praying for Elliot
Steele to get laid
and just fucking done this fucking
the mosque in Edinburgh and all that
just this fucking tour de faith
trying to get Elliot's dick wet
stop a mountain in Tibet
yeah
casting some fucking bones
so
so I have seen a little bit of the Mormon casting some fucking bones so it was
so I have seen a little bit of
the Mormon faith and it's
just it does seem like
it does seem a little bit too modern like they're like Scientology
like they've just made something up
like it feels like they've made up a religion
in the information age where you can
disprove it immediately
thanks so much
like at least a lot of the big ones you know the top four Mation Age where you can disprove it immediately. Thanks so much. At least
a lot of the big ones,
the top four.
Let's go on Judaism, Islam,
Christianity.
Who's the Tottenham?
Who's the Tottenham?
Who's the Spurs?
Butta, butta.
They've got a rich enough history for you to just not question it
and go, look at Gans.
But look, before we started taking records,
you fucking formed this religion.
But anybody like Scientology,
now we can check that.
That's on Google, that.
No, but look at Sheffield
is it Wednesday
they started in the Prem
and then went bust
so you never know
like a not in forest
so that could happen
but with like aliens
like if aliens came down
I think a lot of their religions
would go like fucking
Gretna and shit like that
they'd be bust
we're dazzling
into the fact that
we're seated here by aliens
like he's reading some books
by this author
like I don't know if he's reading some books by this author that like
I don't know if
he's just like an
author in the same
way that I am
when I wrote that
sequence of blogs
compiled them into
a book for the
so yeah he keeps
like a quote of
these books like
it's the bible
that's amazing
it's all the
Anunnaki stuff
mate I'm into it
as well
I'm gonna read it
mate
100%
it's like
I'm always like who knows fuck knows I just think it would be. I'm going to read it, like. Oh, 100%. It's like, I'm always like, who knows?
Fuck knows.
I just think it would be cooler.
Aye.
Do you know what I mean?
And I'm trying to get him, like,
I'm really interested in that line of inquiry.
Like, man, if you're going to fucking lean
into some belief system, fucking have a cool one.
Aye, flat earth.
I respect the flat earthers,
because it's just so mental.
And there's just so much,
like, there's just so much evidence
pointing at it being wrong.
I'm just like, nah. Nah, nah, listen. Listen and just like nah nah listen listen you've got a lot to learn you'd roll off if it was wrong you'd
roll off so um so i was like trying to go oh like if you're interested in that line of inquiry like
adrian traskovsky has got a fucking belt a trilogy called the children of time that like that is essentially just a um a thought experiment about
that idea and then like there's the fucking if you want something a bit more light-hearted the
fucking we are legion we are bob fucking saga is like a really good like um seed and intelligent
life and studying intelligent life from like a science perspective and all that. And he almost pushed it aside, like, no, I don't want fiction.
I'm like, man.
He's brilliant.
It's all fiction.
The Bible's fiction.
You can believe it if you want.
There'll be a mothership in the sky.
One day you'll just get a phone call and they'll be like,
ah, I fucking told you.
I'm like, I, I fucking told you. Yeah, hi. I'm like, hi, but Brock and Clark.
But I mean, like,
I think it's almost foolish
to, and I don't want to be this podcast.
I really don't want to be this podcast.
I don't. It's foolish not to believe in aliens.
Aye.
The fucking universe is so vast,
it's foolish not to. So if you're
going to go and buy something, that's the one where you're going
and there's a fucking semblance of, like, I mean, like, there's no doubt that there's something out there. Aye. So if you're going to go and buy something, that's the one where you're going, there's a fucking semblance of like,
I mean, like there's no doubt
that there's something out there.
So like at least with that.
But when you're talking about like intrinsic gods
that are fucking everywhere,
all saying omnipotent,
I've got too much doubt on that.
There's 100% doubt on that.
I check out with the sort of like,
there's politicians that are lizard people
and all that.
But I would love for nothing more
than that to be true
like you just imagine
Keir Starmer
like addressing the press
and then just like
and he's got a big tongue
he's a fucking space lizard
yeah
I think fucking
that
I mean
repeating old ground
fucking Mark Zuckerberg
is almost living proof
that the lizard people
are running shit like that
that cunt is a cyborg
that cunt is like
it reminds me
I fucking,
I went,
I give blood two days a gan,
but I had to sign up online and I had to fucking click the box that I wasn't a robot.
Like if I was a robot,
I wouldn't be giving blood.
Like,
it'd be oil.
Fucking aye,
some fucking,
some fucking cunt's getting an oil change.
I'm fucking,
I clicked on three bicycles and now I've just given some fucking flu,
what do you call it?
brake fluid?
oh man
plenty of
you know robots full of brake fluid
sort of follow up right?
you're confused with the tin man
so
so yeah
if he had a
like you've got to have a religion
new right?
fucking pick a faith
it doesn't have to be
one of the existing ones
what the fuck is going on?
What do you think is going on?
If you had to pin yourself to it.
If I had to pick one.
What's going on right now?
This?
Being alive?
What do I want to believe in?
Being sentient within your body?
What the fuck is happening?
I think we're just like an experiment in a Petri dish.
Do you think so?
I don't think it's...
We're being watched?
Maybe.
We're being witnessed? I don't think so we're being watched maybe we're being witnessed
I don't think it's
like Matrix
like
we're like two minutes
and we feel like
it's a simulation bro
I had
I had like
an idea that
like
it was
you know
when you die
you're peeing in your
grand ruptures
and that's like
fucking gives you like
it's the dream chemical
just comes at you
all at once
it's like DMT shit
so you know when people's life flashes in front of their eyes and shit like that when they die?
Like that's just like the fucking DMT trip that you're having from when your pineal gland ruptures, right?
And when I've had an experience on that from smoking it, I've always been like kind of like a time dilation where I felt like I've been there a lot longer, but it's only been five minutes of real time.
And I think that when you have that trip when you die, you're locked into like a relative infinity because you're ordained
on that chemical so you're locked into that and even though it's like a fucking split second
before the fucking doctor's checking your pulse and you need to tag them up put them in a bag
right you've just had a relative infinity locked into your brain that compared to what your like
perception of time is in your lifetime um and if you've lived and passed your own standards and
passed your own judgment you're just gonna have yourself a nice trip ergo heaven and if you've
been a cunt and you're living with guilt and jealousy and fucking like just a bunch of like
like just negative emotions and you get that fucking chemical dump and it locks you into like
all that fucking shit that you're dealing with in your head because you've been a bad person
you've stole you're fucking taking advantage and all that like that you're dealing with in your head because you've been a bad person you've stole, you've fucking taken advantage
and all that, then you're living with yourself
in a relative infinity and that's
your hell, so I think
I totally stand by like there's nothing
like I don't think anything's so much
put we're here, I don't think anything's much
but I do think if you don't pass your own
judgement you're in for a fucking bad time
when you trip your bollocks off
you're gonna have a bad trip, that's how your your life ends you don't even need to go as far back to death
like you'll know if you take any like psychedelics and anything like that if you're not in like a
positive head space it's hell so it's probably just that on like on like steroids it's all set
and setting and everything with hallucinogenics you've got to be in a good place for it so i
think just find yourself in a good place you die and enjoy the ride
is that not terrifying
but like
imagine you have this
big like
you've just got to
lock Anna on
imagine you have this
big DMT loop
and it's just you
go to your work
just anxiety dreams
yeah
got the two
are coming up
losing your teeth
and falling through
the veins and all that
it could be
it might just be
that I'm talking about
passing your own
judgement on the
greater scheme of things
it could just be that
you're fucking anxious
about your parents coming out for Christmas it could just be that i'm tired about passing your own judgment on the greater scheme of things it could just be that you're fucking anxious about your parents coming out for christmas you could just
be like fucking some something's up ahead where you're just like oh i hope everything goes smoothly
then you're fucking stuck in an anxiety loop brain's mental man like like you get like it's
just like when you take things like that like everyone can be taking the same thing but then
just experiencing something completely different because they're in like different head spaces.
Like,
it's so interesting.
There's,
they're doing a study now
where they're like
consistently like dripping,
drip feeding people DMT
and they're trying to like
map it out.
Yeah.
Like the place where you go.
Where your brain,
like the part of your brain
that opens.
Like I was talking to
Dean Coughlin from,
Coughlin from the
Mail High Club.
Hi, hi.
And he's got this theory
that like the trip that you have
on like acid's always
there and when you
take acid it just brings the filter down
that makes your brain process things and make
everything have order and look normal
so you know like an example
he used was we were looking at a bit of carpet
that was like squared carpets
with stripes going different ways for each
square but because it's got that optical illusion,
it starts like shifting around and moving in the eyes.
And if you look directly at it for like so long,
it starts like wiggling around and shit.
And you're like, that's always there.
But your brain just does a really good job
of like fucking eyeing and everything out
and making it palatable.
So you're not like living in fucking wonderment
and everything.
That would explain like the visuals,
but also how you like feel stuff as well. Like the oversense of euphoric. It might not just be with what you're not living in fucking wonderment and everything. That would explain the visuals, but also how you feel stuff as well,
like the oversense of euphoric.
It might not just be with what you're seeing.
Like you said, it might just constantly always be there
and you just tap into it.
Yeah, just getting the fucking...
When you're playing a computer game,
what you're seeing is the visual graphics of the computer game,
but what's going on behind it is all that fucking coding and shit.
You're basically just seeing all the fucking cordon.
Because it's like, well, everything's just energy, isn't it?
If you put your hand on that table and it stops and it feels solid
and your hand's not going anywhere, right?
But if you zoomed into a micro level,
there's a fucking nucleus of the atom,
the electrons spanning around it,
and the majority of that atom is mostly nothing.
Like there's mostly nothing there.
And that is every single atom that's making up my hand.
And that wood is mostly, like, it's 99.999% fuck all.
It's just energy that's stopping me hand,
pressing through that table and passing through.
But there's enough mass that me hand should just pass through it quite easily.
I started feeling the table there, like, I didn't believe you.
It's not fucking there, mate.
It's barely there.
It's fucking 0.0 recurring 1% there as far as matter is concerned
and the rest of its energy.
Is that that?
I can't remember what it is, but it's like,
it might be the same principle as like,
if you just hit your hand off the table,
like if you've done that like an infinite amount of times,
eventually your hand would just go through it.
I actually fucking...
Not like you're smashing me.
Like a Shaolin monk.
Like a Shaolin monk video. If I smash my hand off the table much more,
Matthew, my producer, is going to send us an angry
text. That's what's going to happen.
Because rattling up the mic.
Dave Longley had a
fucking really good bit.
I don't know if he still does it anymore and I am going to
butcher it. Just basically about that
concept but the whole fucking punchline
was about so he didn't
actually touch the stripper
I love a big convoluted payoff man
there's some of my favourite
style of jokes
like there's these sort of
old pub jokes you get as well
where it's just going on
and on and on
and then it's just so stupid
they're the best then
because like
them old pub jokes
because you can make them
as long as you like
and like all it is is just about having that confidence to just sit in that pocket of silence They're the best then because like them old pub jokes, because you can make them as long as you like.
And like all it is, is just about having that confidence to just sit in that pocket of silence while you're doing storytelling
because you know the punchline's going to come
and often the punchline's better the longer you leave it
and the more you colour the story in.
I'd love to write one.
Like imagine that being your comedy legacy,
like just 20 years time, you just hear your joke getting told at a pub.
Do you know, I used to, it's not the same because the punchlines
hack right but when i started out when i was an open mic i used to end my set about like
about i was uh i used when i would stay out my mom would call us in for like me baths ready or
whatever and i never want to go in i always wanted to be the last one staying out so i hid from my
parents and i made the story go on for as long
as I possibly could
before it got out of time
right
because I'm just at the end
of my set
and I'm like
this is going until
the fucking light flashes
the ball's in the corner flag
yeah the ball's in the corner flag
and I would tell the story
about like
I can tell the panic
in their voices
they're shouting at us
because they can't find us
on the street
but I'm sat there curled up
like I'm like
not having a good time
I'm not playing out anymore
I'm busting for a piss
now I want to go in
but I can't show my face
because I'm being trolled they think you've been playing out anymore I'm busting for a piss I want to go in but I can't show my face because I'm being
stolen by Terry
ah yeah
Peter Terry's got us
and then the finders
and the fucking bollockers
and the kickers up the stairs
and the fucking baths
cold when I get in
and I'm grunted for a week
and then I ended it with like
imagine how much trouble
Madeline McCann's
going to be in
and that was the punchline
so the punchline
was just an open spot
doing a Madeline McCann joke
but the feed line was just me just so the punchline was just an open spot down in Madeline McCann joke but the feedline
was just me
just painting the picture
of us fucking
hiding from me parents
while they're looking
for us on the street
you should bring that back
you could just
shop out and change it
I just wouldn't be in trouble
now she's an adult
and you haven't grown me
I'm 21
you'd have a couple of weeks
there for Jay Slater
you could have knocked
it out the park
yeah
fucking Jay Slater I wonder what knocked it out of the park yeah fucking Jay Slater
I wonder what they've done
with all that money
they raised a canny bit
for him
what did it come in at
I was thinking about
doing it
pay for next year's fringe
fucking hell
you could have
saved Cian Musk
Rose's life for that
they wouldn't have raised
it was like the boxing
efforts
they made it
they made it
nearly 100,000
didn't they
it was ridiculous man and the mother went out and had a holiday It was like the box and their fats. They made nearly 100,000, didn't they? Ah, yeah, can you?
It was ridiculous, man.
And the mother went out and had a holiday.
Oh, yeah.
Is he all right?
No, he died.
You daft cunt.
You daft cunt.
It's honestly my favourite thing to do
is fucking hear about someone's traumatic death
and then fucking ask if they're all right.
Is he all right?
Is he all right, then?
I fucking do it all the time.
I rarely land one.
I rarely land one. I'm glad we're all recording there.
You need me hook, line and sink, aren't you?
That mix-up for us not plugging the
mic in. Oh, yeah, mate, I
definitely want to get back to, there's some
loose ends we need to tie up. I definitely want
to get back to you travelling
through China just because the opportunity arose.
Aye, so I
I was, it sounds
mental but the only reason I picked to study
Mandarin and the only reason I ended up
living in China for a year is because
they told us that if we took the subject
they would take us to China Buffet King for free
so I was like, oh my mate
You're going to get pretty scrapped if you
get out of a different continent for two years
you're going to get a bite to eat if you can't have a different continent for two years. You're going to get a bite to eat.
No, so I never even...
I only signed up because I thought
they were taking us to the one in Glasgow.
So I thought they were just taking us to a school trip.
Like, oh, we'll go to China Buffy King
and then we'll come back.
Because it got so much funding
for the Chinese government and stuff like that.
Let's get this straight.
You thought you were signing up for a dinner?
So the only reason I signed up was because I was trying to get the dinner. Right. You were signing up for a dinner so the only reason I signed up
was because I was
trying to get the dinner
right
and then I ended up
you were going to get
the dinner
then tie them
aye
and I ended up
doing the class
and then I was like
this is a piss take
I'll just stick with it
and plus I'm getting
my dinner
they eventually
never even took us
to China
you didn't even get
your food
but they just gave us
out these forms
like look we've got
a scholarship program
my cousin was a teacher
at the time
so I got her to do
the form for me
well shit if it's fraud now but fuck it got her to do the form and then i got
the interview and just went in and was sort of talking shite and stuff so did you go over to
learn mandarin that was the course that you took and did any of it stick none at all none you
couldn't even do some basic like uh lpc and kind of shit like the thing is like i've tried to do
on stage as well but anytime i speak with someone that looks like me,
he speaks Mandarin on stage,
especially in, like, comedy clubs in Scotland,
they're just like, he's just making racist noises.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Especially when you slip the word Starbucks in there.
Yeah, what glass-weaving audience are going to go,
wait a minute, that was Cantonese, that was the Mandarin,
like, they've got no chance.
So you look like you're one...
Even if you spoke fluent Mandarin
it would look like
you were one step away
from doing the I's
because it's a tonal language
you have to do an accent
yeah
like it's
because it's like
ha ha ha
yeah ha ha ha
so like jaw
and jaw
jaw
it's like
one's nine
and one's alcohol
oh really
jaw
I've not
I've not done it in ages
but it was a
I went over there
and then studied for a year and then I was at it's the only time I'd ever been to university Oh, really? Do you know? I've not done it in ages, but it was a... I went over there
and then studied for a year
and then I was at...
It's the only time
I'd ever been to university.
We were initially in a college
and then we got chucked out
the college
because the college
got caught embezzling funds
for the Vietnamese government.
Oh, really?
So they got...
So you were fucking...
They were sports washing.
They were doing some sports washing.
Sports washing to me.
They were like,
I will just get a bunch
of Scottish kids out of here. They went on that aye we'll just get a bunch of Scottish kids
our
we'll give them a lump sum
of money in a country
where it's like
40 pence for a deck
of snow
and just like
fucking 50p a beer
it was carnage
I was 18
I had no
like
get us to
cut this
if you didn't want to
talk about it
but what are you
dealing out there as well
I was selling a wee bit
of weed
like just to
like
because you could either
you had to do like a job
like you could
tutor
you could like
you had to do a job
just to show you could work
so I just started
a network of crime
I would have traded opium
if I could
like the old days man
but like
you had to do something
a lot of people
done tutoring
I tried that
and I'd be sitting
I'd be like
I can't
A's for Apple
and all that
I was like I'm gonna fuck doing this I'll risk the death penalty I'd be sitting and I'd be like I can't A's for Apple and all that I was like
I'm gonna fuck doing this
I'll risk the death penalty
I can't sit and fucking
so instead of teaching English
because like
if anybody's
like if we're American listeners
we've got a lot of European listeners
as well
there's some people in India
who like
there's people listening
in a second language as well
like if you've got this far
oh god
like my accent
is normally bad enough
but like
Danny's Scottish accent
is like you can tell he was born in England aye and then we had Roscoe on which is like Oh, God. Like, my accent is normally bad enough. But, like, Danny's Scottish accent is, like,
you can tell he was born in England.
Aye.
And then we had Roscoe on, which is, like, fucking,
that is, like, you're doing your degree there
with listening to Roscoe.
You're, like, the master's degree.
PhD.
PhD, aye.
You're, like, the fucking higher learning
fucking Scottish accent.
Aye.
I've actually, I've been conscious of clearing that up.
Like, see if I go to Edinburgh, I sound, like,
gigs there sound completely different. You start going, eh? Yeah, yes. Do you know what I mean? I've actually I've been conscious of clearing that up like see if I go to Edinburgh I sound like gigs out there
I sound completely different
you start going
eh
yeah
yes
do you know what I mean
it's like fuck no
it's so much different
I struggle to find the balance
where
I listen to
I've got a
I've got a special
you'll be able to hear it
I've got a special on
my website
from 2017
and I can tell then
that's when I was having
the English lessons
was around about that time.
Like 2016, 17.
You sound like Oliver.
I was just over enunciating.
I hadn't...
Pedophile Terry.
Exactly.
I wasn't...
I was pulling back too far.
Like where...
You can lose
I bet you're fucking
mojoed in.
I was listening back
and going I sound posh back to a sound posh
like a sound posh
in this fucking special
I recorded in
Morpeth
which is
like the posh end
of Northumberland
if I'm going to be honest
I got off at a train station
is it?
yeah
that's what I always
laugh there
when there's fucking
Chavas
because we call Chavs
Chavas
when there's Chavas
in Morpeth
I'm like
no you're not
but you're both
a stolen valour
both your parents
are working you had a decent amount of pocket money as a kid you're not but you're both a stolen valour both your parents are working
you've had a decent
amount of pocket money
as a kid
you're fighting back
none of your tracksuits
had holes in them
fuck off
any hot rocks
in your trackies
I feel like
to be a chav
you've got to have
a little bit of struggle
behind you
otherwise
you're culturally
appropriate
but yeah
I've done that
especially in Watworth
which is a nice
little fucking
retirement village compared to Blythe and I did I listened back but yeah I done that special in Wartworth which is a nice little fucking retirement
village compared to Blythe right
and I did like I listened
back to it and went oh I don't like sounding like that
that's not me I'm not listening to me
there that's me. It's alright if you got a wee
BBC Radio 4 breakfast number
or something like that but for the special you've got
to fucking. That's funny listening to
Kay Caird on the BBC Football Daily
because he sounds totally different or he sounds like when he's doing stand-up.
I've not heard it, but he's good, man.
He's brilliant. I've heard him on a few podcasts.
It's almost like he's doing a really good impression of a podcast host,
and that's exactly what he has to do.
But when I heard him on stage, I thought he was a lot rougher than that
because he had a bit of a persona accent where he was a lot rougher than that right because he had the he had like a bit of a persona accent
where he was a little bit
more like fucking
street of London
and then I was just like
man he's just fucking
hard pivoted
and like
well spoken
but I felt like
oh mate I'd do the same thing
see for the
see for the fee
I'd be like fucking
Downton Abbey man
no bother
fucking too right
yeah
because I was recording
because I was in me
fucking home turf
and I can talk how I want
at them gigs
and I got like I really just fucking go back to me
the way I do speak.
But because I was recording it,
I was thinking about the people
that were listening overseas and stuff.
Because I've got a different delivery style
when I'm gigging in Europe
than when I'm gigging in the UK.
Is it just like, what's the main difference?
The difference is, I'll finish my words,
I'll say, instead of give is, I'd say give me.
Right.
Instead of I'm gone, I'm going.
So it would be like this.
Going in Europe, going in London, gone in Newcastle. Right. So there's like the three versions of one word. Going, going, in London, gan, in Newcastle.
Right.
So there's like the three versions of one word.
Going,
going,
gan.
Yeah,
uh-huh.
And then when you get to Scotland,
it's just gan,
gan,
gan.
And if you get any of them wrong,
it's off key.
If I say gan in Europe,
they don't know what I've just said.
If I say going in Newcastle,
they're like,
who the fuck is this cunt?
I've never been fine,
because that's just the wee nuances, like you don't even think about. Yeah., they're like, who the fuck is this cunt? I've never been vi, because that's just the wee nuances
you don't even think about. Yeah.
So it's like, being
like us and having real regional dialects,
it's something that you
have to really fucking work on
to have any reach
in this job. Because we're working in communication.
Aye. We're in the communication game.
I communicate my thoughts into words to
a crowd And like
And you have to
You have to do it well
On the flip side though
I feel like
I feel like
Doing these roast battles
I've been getting away with murder
For some of these like
Some like bog standard lines
That I think
Because they're American
And hearing it
And like an aggressive
Shouty Scottish accent
They're like
Aye
It works both ways
Do you know what I mean
It's very different from a set
You would never want to lose it
even when I was trying to
complete my words to be understood
I still wanted to have the jolly through line
I feel like now
16 years on I'm getting closer
to that point of being understood
and being myself
but I think that's also
the way things are going
it's becoming a lot less London
centric with stuff going online and stuff like
that and less reliable on the old
media where they would only go for like sort of one avenue
where everyone is sort of
from the same place, well spoken kind of
thing, it's because anybody can just like whack a
camera up and start talking shite in front of it now
like it's opened, it's opened up doors for
people maybe
would have just, oh I don't understand
that guy
I'm going to turn it off
but like
will tune in
and listen to it
if they haven't like
or they've seen
their clips before
yeah
the Northern Irish accent
is one of the
one of the worst
sorry if there's any
Northern Irish people there
which there will be
I feel comfortable
saying that as well
because like
where I'm from
is terrible as well
but the Northern Irish
comedy scene
is absolutely
fucking booming and they've got eyes for like all over the world on them as well and they where I'm from is terrible as well but the Northern Irish comedy scene is absolutely fucking booming and they've
got eyes for like all over the world on them as well
and they're still going up there
funny fuckers as well man
I love all them comics like they're
fucking class. Aye it's meant like
I always like being nosy
and like googling the venues that they're doing
because they'll just post like a hi I'm
here next week and it'll just be like two
dates and you're like oh and you go on it's ablown fucking like arena uh yeah they're fucking massive and they're really
funny fuck as for like you know having a pint at the fringe like in an artist bar and all that
well like you know you'll have you'll have that little fucking undertone of fucking networking
and fucking suits and all that going on and then you'll just have this fucking corner of really
fucking funny northern irish lads and i'll just fucking go and pull up and then he'll just have this fucking corner of really fucking funny Northern Irish lads
and they'll just fucking
go and pull up
a seat there
and just have
the best laugh
with everyone
Mickey Bartlett's
done this podcast
a couple of times as well
he's one of the funniest
fuckers alive that man
William Thompson's
oh he's funny
Paddy McDonnell
I've seen him in Glasgow
as well
seen Paddy McDonnell
in Glasgow
Aaron McCann as well
what a funny cunt he is
he's great man
there's so many
Colin that's where
do you not start
I've just remembered
something about Aaron McCann
I want to try and get
this fucking story right
because it was one of them
where he was
because he was just
being a punter
with his mate
Spank
remember Spank
you love it
what was Spank
if anybody said Spank on stage the whole? No. You love it. What was Spank?
If anybody said Spank on stage,
the whole audience shout,
you love it.
And the title was called,
it was a late night party gig at the Fringe where like James Loveridge and Abba Goliath,
it's been like alternating hosts over the years,
but like there's been some kind of residency hosts
over the years as well.
And basically everybody gets up at the beginning,
they get everybody on their fucking, off their the player jump around get everyone fucking jumping get them
doing a couple of shots on stage and just start the show like that like a fucking big party we're
having it and um i was co-hosting it as a guest guest host and aaron mccann was in the in the
front row as a punter with his mates he just come to the fringe he was like this is a belt i
show come there and it was something like the lines of a fucking act had dropped out
and i was i was going aaron do you want to do the gig but like should we do it like i'll just
get chatting there and ask you to give it a go like like i pulled him with the crowd as like a
punter that had never done stand up comedy before
and he'd come on
and he played it genius
because like he played it
like that kind of
giddy ass
shouldn't be here
like he fucking
he knew his job
he knew what he had to do
he knew he couldn't
come on
and just fucking be
like sharp as fuck
he knew he had to
come on and look
a little bit bashful
you know
and just be like
and then get like
a bit of fucking
a head of steam and then like
go, oh I could talk about this
and he fucking like, as if he's just clutching stuff out of the air
and man, the kid fucking
smashed it
He's bad now, he didn't even know I was
a comedian, I just got talking to him man
found out he was doing like a
a work in progress at Monkey Barrel and stuff
just get the beers in and stuff, that is
You know the first time I met him,
I was doing this kind of tour of Ireland,
but it wasn't me tour.
It was just a tour of club gigs.
And this just comedy adjacent comedy fan had put it on,
just went, oh, I'll hook you up with all these clubs.
This was back in 2014, I think it was.
And he was like, I'll just try and find you places
to stay in each spot.
And then he was like, oh, this young comedian you places to stay in each spot and then he was like
oh this young comedian Aaron McCann said he'd put you up so he come to the gig I met him that night
where I had a couple of drinks and I went back and he lived in student accommodation where
the middle like common ground is like a couch and a tv in a kitchen and then there's doors coming
off it into people's bedrooms and he was on one of the doors and i was on that couch and he gives a blanket and put us on that couch right and i woke up to
hearing somebody going there's a man asleep on the couch did you kid don't you still be asleep
does anyone know that max is like people in their like late teens early 20s
and i would have been like i would have probably been just in my thirties at the time.
Someone's dad's fell asleep.
Hi, this isn't the same.
One of the lecturers has fell asleep.
Oh, man.
Did you hear him look at the boiler?
He's fell asleep.
He's fell asleep looking at the boiler. He's fell asleep. He's fell asleep looking at the boiler.
He's got his breath today.
His wife's been ringing him.
His phone's got 67 missed calls.
Oh, man.
Fucking funny, that.
The next day, he was like,
I've got to take you to this restaurant.
And we went to a crisp sandwich shop.
There was a fucking pop-up.
I think they were doing it to take the piss out of... and we went to a crisp sandwich shop. There was a fucking pop-up.
I think they were doing it to take the piss out of... You know, that would have been the start of the hipster revolution.
Oh, like the places in London that would serve a fucking gravy at a whaley bit
and charge you like 40 quid.
Make you eat of a dog dish.
It was the fucking...
It was the wave.
I think it was ironic.
I think they put it in as an ironic fucking gesture towards that because it was only like a pop-up thing that stayed there for a little while but
you'd go in and you can't just get fucking monster munch on white bread or whatever and they fucking
charge it two quid flatten it with a hand and he was just fucking howling at the concept nobody's
like i've got to take you to this place we're in fucking out of chris butty in the middle of belfast
i was fucking mental i weirdly think that would make it,
seeing the right area opened at the right time,
that would make a killing.
Aye.
Just somewhere that's...
Just like just after work,
but just before you go on a night out.
See if it was just in that wee window
that they were cleaning up.
Between meals.
Yeah.
Aye, fucking filling up at 11 o'clock.
There's something to snack on before you.
Aye, so fucking
that's the Belfast lads
I don't have Belfast on the tour
that's a gross oversight
I didn't do that
I'm going to Dublin
and it's mad because people pop up
when you put a tour on
I put an announcement yesterday with all the tour dates
and people were like come to Limerick and all that
and I'm like I'd actually fucking love to do that
I want to just like
focus on a place
and how about we'll do
like a little tour
of this gaff
and go around doing that
but at the minute
this is going to be
a bit broader
where I'm a little bit
like fucking
capital cities
and places that are like
have already got
like a known audience
Is there anywhere
you've not played yet
that you're looking forward to?
I'm doing another part
of Slovenia
because we've done
Ljubljana a bunch of times
I think you told me that was unreal when you've done that
absolutely class but like we put a
we had a bit of a sabbatical from Dana
because I fucking chinned this, I batted a Russian
bloke in a hostel
and I felt like I was in trouble there, I felt like
I was wanted for a little bit, it was just
the Russians, they would have came after you
they would have just rubbed something on the door
and you'd have had to take a piece of it
it was out of hand
it was
we had a lock in
at a hostel
that used to be
like an old jail
so it was a little bit
like you could go down
into the dungeons
it's quite on the nose
and it's a
it's in like
a place called Metlakova
which is like a
like a kind of
child's park play area
that's just been graffitied
and taken out by adults
who drink out of fucking bag of cans.
And it's just a drinking area
and the houses around it
just turn that living room into somewhere
they'll sell cheap wine.
So the people that are touristy
and hanging out in the spots,
it's just like hanging out with your mates in the park,
but every cunt's doing it.
I thought you were telling me you were doing a gig there?
No.
This is just a belter part of the world
that me and sloss discovered
when we're traveling in uh in libyana and we always tend to go there and just fucking go and
get some fucking who's who's wine get some house wine and fucking go and drink it in the park when
there's always just americans there and we ended up in a lock-in in this hostel playing pool and
the the bar manager went out to have a smoke and this fucking russian guy ghosted in and started
helping himself from the bar and the only people that a smoke and this fucking Russian guy ghosted in and started helping himself
from the bar
and the only people
that were in the building
drinking
was me and Daniel
and people who were staying there
yeah
so it wasn't open to the public
and they just had this fucking guy in
and Danny was like
fucking
outside
having a smoke
and the bar manager
was like
I don't know what to do
the fucking
he's coming
he's taking the booze
like a fucking
like he was like
trembling
having his fucking cigarette
the bar manager
and Danny was like hey you just fucking cigarette, the bar manager.
And Danny was like, hey, you just asked him to leave.
I'll go and have a word with him.
And Danny just went booing in, asked him to leave.
And this fucking guy just fucking like made a big line to close the gap with Danny
and I just fucking killed him there
and then just fucking smashed him in the face,
put him down on the floor.
And then it was like, we should probably go now.
Just stepped over his body and left.
We went to the fucking hotel.
Well, pick up was, six in the morning,
but, like, every car that came by the hotel,
we were fucking looking out the window.
We didn't get in bed.
We're twitching the blinds in the hotel.
God, this fucking guy's not...
Like, you come in, like, you had fucking swagger,
like, just help yourself to the bar.
And I fucking just left him on the floor.
You hope he's past and he doesn't remember it.
We went a little while we went a little while
before going back
to Ljubljana
after that
and then
and then
so I'm going there again
but I'm also going to do
Maribor
which is the other side
so basically you know
I went to watch
England, Slovenia
and Cologne
during the Euros
and the fans were like
MK Maribor
I think it might be like
a Ranger Celtic thing
going on with them fans
but they have to watch
the national team together where it's like oh right so I think I think it might be like a Ranger Celtic thing going on with them fans, but they have to watch the national team together.
Oh, right.
I think Maribor and Ljubljana.
I'm not entirely sure of how, like, I don't know.
I'm about to find out.
But I'm going to go to the other side of Ljubljana.
That's a territory that I've never done before.
We've done that many territories.
These are the kind of, when you can if there's anywhere
you haven't been
it's always going to be
somewhere fucking
really niche
I'd love to
unlock South America
and that would have to be
Slosser's Tour
like if he
if he can
if he can fucking
find the right promoters
like we did in India
to do South America
that would be like
us just fucking
like taking a huge box
yeah that would be like us just fucking like taking a huge box.
Yeah.
That would be insane, man.
Even like just the crowds there
would be unreal.
And then find care
of the piss-ups after it
as well, man.
I mean, it would also be
a little bit dangerous now.
Like, this is a little bit
of a fucking concern there.
A corporate for the cartel.
Yeah, fucking.
I don't know.
Like, again,
it would have to be
Sloss's tour,
but I don't know
if he's the stock
for the job
he may need someone
a bit more fucking
battle-hardened
and he'll be
he'll be fucking classic
he's got a fan base
out there
that's what we know already
he's got a fan base
does he get all those comments
come to Brazil
yeah
Argentina's a big one
Argentina's a big one
for coming to Argentina
is there a big
English speaking scene
or do you know
don't know
don't know
that's like
because that's like
fucking a lot of the time
we've like
tapped new markets
when we're not sure
until we've gone
a lot of the time
like especially in Europe
like Dylan Moran
and that had gotten there first
and done like
Jimmy Carr
and Eddie Izzard
there was like
like you could count
on one hand
of comics that would like
have been to some of these territories,
but some of them
have been like fucking
first ones over there.
Like,
like just finding out
what it's like there.
A lot of places.
It'd be cool to just do somewhere
like Mongolia.
Aye,
yeah.
Somewhere completely mental.
There was actually
when we're doing the gigs
in Hungary,
the promoter,
I was talking about like,
thanks.
Mate,
this Ouija's bored.
One day,
the gigs in Hungary,
and the promoter,
I was like,
I'd love to do like a documentary
where I would go out
and do gigs,
like,
East.
I'd love to go out East
and do gigs.
And I was like,
I don't even know
what's East to here.
Is it like China?
Is East of Hungary,
like,
and now you've got Georgia,
but then is it like
Turkmenistan?
Nah,
that's a bit further,
I think.
What's out east from Hungary?
Is it no just...
I think it's getting into like the middle ground
between the Middle East and Europe.
What's that?
Like that...
The Balkans,
no?
No,
because that's...
I mean,
I've travelled enough to know exactly the geography of this,
but I still don't.
I think the Balkans are just south and slightly west of Hungary.
That's sort of shrugging while I'm saying it.
So out east from Hungary, like I said, Georgia.
And then I think it gets into like, let's look at a map.
That's everybody just do it.
The podcast ends here anyway.
Let's all end the podcast and go look at a map
and see what's out east of Hollywood.
Or an atlas.
Go, a wee throwback, dig out an atlas.
Get an old atlas out.
Yeah, I know, I'm a flat earfer.
I'm a flat earfer.
I can only read off a flat map.
Otherwise, what's this fucking hocus pocus
that you're digging here with this globe?
Right, so have you got anything to plug?
Get yourself to prison.
Jail.
I'm going gonna do a show
at the Glasgow International Comedy Festival
in March
I'm not sure
where that's gonna be
but
Jack T Comedy
on Instagram
eh
I'll post about it there
when I
when I've got that
great
spot on
so same at the comedy festival
and eh
you've got his social media handle
so go and follow Jack
and enjoy him at his show
thanks for having us on my man
cheers mate
thanks for coming