Sloss and Humphries On The Road - Mine Weeper
Episode Date: September 17, 2020Go on then, have an extended dollop of Muggins and Cream with a sprinkling of Ryan Cullen ...
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Sloss and Humphries on the road!
Muggins and cream, cream and muggins, straight thuggin', livin' the dream
That's our intro
Fuckin' muggles!
Tickling the clit inside your head that makes you laugh
Woohoo!
Hahaha!
They said it can't be done!
Are we in the same seats?
That's hack
Ah, muggles
Accidental rim job in the park
Kiss kiss kiss
Or am I just being cynical?
Just muggled it up on fuckin' Mugglepedia
Where have you been since 9-11?
We'll touch on it.
Hi, everyone at home.
Hello.
I'm Kai Humphries.
And I am...
Why did you...
Did you try to take my line?
Was your new way of doing the intro
to interrupt my intro
so as to Humphries and Humphries on the road podcast? No, no, no, let's try this again. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, my it's the Humphreys and Humphreys on the road podcast.
No, no, no, let's try this again.
Hey, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Kai Humphreys.
And I...
You've done it again there, you see?
You said your own name.
Why didn't you let me finish?
Because you started your second.
You're stepping on me, actually.
Right, okay.
This is why I appreciate Ant and Dick so much.
You've not been...
I've not been introduced.
There's no way you've been introduced.
So shut your fucking mouth
and shut up until I'm introduced.
Have some goddamn fucking respect for the gays.
Wait till we bring you in, Sponge.
Shut...
Do it!
I'm trying to keep putting in.
Let me host this podcast.
Hello, welcome to the podcast.
I am Kai Humphries and I am now going to pass you over to my friend and introduce himself.
I am.
I'll get you to knock yourself out.
I'll pay you to knock yourself out.
Let's finish.
I'm Danny Sluts.
Let's finish.
Finish thing.
Right.
Hello, welcome to the podcast.
I am Kai Humphries and I am going to let my fellow co-host introduce himself.
I am now going to stop talking so he can do that.
I'm Danny Sloss.
And on my right is...
Oh my God, I feel like I'm not supposed to answer.
What is happening? It's the worst I'm that's the best what what is happening
it's the worst intro
it's the best intro
no
you're back baby
you're never left
Ryan Cullen
our special guest
here's what happened
can I clearly listen
to one of your episodes
of Clear and Oblivious
where you are
I've never done that
shut up
you're not accusing me of that
where I did the whole thing
where you are
an awful host
and he was like
you know what I'm a brilliant host and he was like you know what
that was a brilliant host
and I just did
it absolutely was
I created content
I am so excited
for you to read
the comments on this
for how bad
how long did that
shite it
two fucking minutes
how would this be
imagine today's the day
right this podcast
is the one
where I suddenly decide
to be proud of this podcast
the one where
Sarah Pascoe's listening
could this be the one?
Oh, this might be
the one she's listening.
Hi, Sarah.
Why don't you
quote me a bit
of my match shit?
Give me more gold
for your book.
I forgot my point.
The point is,
quality and fro.
No, no, no, no.
In fact, no,
you probably were.
Oh, can I do it?
Can I do it?
Imagine this was the one week where I decided to be proud of this podcast
and if I can promote it online in the open two minutes of you.
No, no, when I bring in Daniel's Floss fans to this podcast,
for the first 90 seconds, these Colombians, these Americans and these Canadians
are listening to some, they assume, and these are my words,
these are their thoughts a vagrant disabled man
has raised it
sat next to Kai
for some reason
he's the guest
I went with vagrant
I don't know why
vagrant
vagrant
it's because you didn't have
the confidence
to say disabled
because I had a sister
that was disabled
I'm allowed to say
that is the rules of comedy
yeah
as long as you're close
to a tragedy
you get to joke about it
and that is literally
the rules
that's it
could I say
I wish
my sister was disabled
wow
she's genuine
she's had hip surgery
she's fucked
that doesn't
that's not
you know that
so where's her badge
how good is the parking
come on now
yeah
alright
she's got another one hips are like that hips So where's her badge? How good is the parking? Come on now. Yeah. Aye.
She's got another one.
Hips only.
That makes sense.
She's got another hip.
Aye.
Do you have two hips?
Yes.
I mean, I know you do,
but surely the hip bone's one thing and it's got two hips on it.
It's like a leg shock, isn't it?
A hip.
Aye, you've got two shoulders.
I'm just...
The second I started to explain it to myself...
Is that like an ad back in the day?
The milk one?
Your leg is connected to your hip bone.
You know that's not off the ad.
The ad used the song.
Yeah.
No, no.
That's a common song.
It's not a common song.
It's from a kids' TV show, is it?
It comes from originally, the Greeks sang it originally
because they invented medicine.
Obviously, it was in Latin.
But they sang it in Greek, so it sounded a lot like this.
Go ahead, Daniel.
She be babadooba do da
cliff top
hit the bridge
go to the dead
and hit the dead
cough the bush
all that
yeah quote that for a bit
I'm Sarah Pascoe
do we need
is this going
is this going to be
another Sarah Pascoe
grievance episode
oh no
or is it going to be
an episode
where we talk to Ryan Cullen
oh god
are they the options
when Sophie's
like it's
as if
as if nothing's happened
since the last podcast
you're bringing up
as if I've not
just turned 30
as if we've also
not just had a
fucking festival
who had 4 minutes 50
before he brought up
on his birthday
last week
who had 2 minutes 30
before you brought up
Santa Pasco
what are you talking about?
Anyway, let's introduce our guest.
Right, that's it.
Ryan Cullen.
Well.
How are you?
I'm great.
You know how I am, I love you.
Can you just say a few things about yourself?
Well, I like Star Wars now.
You just watched Star Wars no you just watched
Star Wars
I don't
I used to
I used to
I used to
hit it
not hit it
but I used to
get the buzz
you used to
disparage it
in the same way
that whenever
they got excited
about the trailers
I'd watch the
reaction videos
of like
nerds getting
excited about the
trailers
being like
look at these
fucking nerds
getting excited
about Star Wars but then also at the same time getting excited about the trailers being like look at these fucking nerds getting excited about Star Wars
but then also
at the same time
getting excited
about the next
fucking Horizon Zero Dawn
game
yeah
I love it when you
get the YouTube
comments on their
like Star Wars
trailers and stuff
when somebody
thinks they have
it worked out
and it's like
a 10,000 word essay
and you read through it
and then like
a week later
they come out
and go
nah you were wrong
absolutely
you were so wrong they tried to guess the entire plot from a week later they come out and go nah you were wrong absolutely you were so wrong
they tried to guess
the entire plot
from a trailer
and they watched
the entire movie
going
I don't think
they asked for my opinion
JJ's done me again
did you look
at Star Wars
fandom
the way that
Mark Nelson
looks at us
when we play
Dungeons and Dragons
and Mark Nelson
and Bart Simpson
really upset about this.
Yeah.
Well, now that is an interesting question
because you, Colin,
have, through living with me,
whether you like it or not,
been brought in to so many worlds of nerd.
I have.
We've hit Marvel and Dungeons and Dragons
and just general comic books and stuff like that.
Slauson Humphries on the road, just all kinds of like super fandom.
Huge universes.
Where the main rival is Santa Pascal for some fucking reason.
Fucking Emperor.
And sometimes Elliot.
How did she of my Thanos.
You kept bringing her up.
She fucking sells books with calling me racist.
Does she sell books
or does she sell books?
Probably not that many.
You know,
I've now read the book
and we'll use this opportunity
to plug it.
What's it called?
Plugging a shitty
fucking firewood.
She's probably on
fucking Frankie Bowles
New World Order
laughing at a rape joke
hold on
so Ryan
you were brought into
not necessarily
you weren't nerdy
you definitely weren't
it was beaten out of us
not beaten out of us
I don't think it was
beaten out of you
I think it was
melted out of you
it was
gently
what I did
was we started
living together
and I wanted to get
into Dungeons and Dragons
because I met well you and me met Matty Marcia the greatest DM what I did was we started living together and I wanted to get into Dungeons and Dragons because
I met
well you and me
met Matty Marcia
the greatest DM
in existence
we got to meet
all the Critical Role folks
and I started watching
both of those series
and I got so fucking obsessed
and obviously
what did you say?
what did you just say?
what did you just say?
he said
I think it was
Jill Bate
the defensive midfielder
who played for Arsenal
it was just for Kai justSilva who was a defensive midfielder who played for Arsenal.
It was just for Kai and just like
the podcast
not getting that one.
We got into it
and obviously
it was on our tour
about two years ago
when we were still living
at our other house, Ryan.
And I approached you, Kai
and I said
I really want to get into
Dungeons and Dragons
and you're quite easy to convince about things
because you're very open-minded
and, like me, deep down, a bit of a loser.
Aye, I'm a bit nerdy.
Aye.
So you were like, you watched one episode of...
Like as a kid, like collectible stuff
and painted models and all that.
I mean, literally.
Body paint on them models for the paint reshoots and that.
If you want to, I've literally bought paints
for our zombies in the game. Because you know how the zombies are unpainted? Yes. I've literally bought paints for our zombies in the game
because you know
when the zombies
are unpainted
I've literally bought
paints for them
they could do that
but I dragged
you
I worked double shifts
in the factory fires
I dragged you
into D&D
Gareth was obviously
fucking keen for it
but the problem was
Ryan you and I
lived together
so it was just like
either
we're going to do
this nerdy thing
in a room without you
or
get them all
involved
I don't know
I was really against it
not against it
I was like
it'll be fun
but I can't let anyone
see it
and I feel like
talking to a priest first
yes
man I get that
there is like a bit of
I don't know if
I don't know if
shame is the right word.
I think it's all World of Warcraft's fault.
Which we also got into.
Yes, damn it.
Yeah, also, you'd be like,
it's World of Warcraft.
I got you and Gareth into World of Warcraft
when it was re-released for about two weeks.
What I'm learning here is,
you basically embrace anything I embrace
and I appreciate your photos
because, boy, does it make me happier with it myself.
It's great, love it.
I didn't think I would ever have liked it.
It's got to be different the fact that we're pretty creative.
We're in a world where we talk for a living
so it's not a really difficult transition to like pull pull funny
out of formulaic situations
would it be as good
with muggles
is the formula enough
to make it fun
with muggles
yes yes
you know what yes
but maybe not to
maybe not to
what our standards are
it would be fun to play
it probably wouldn't be
fun to watch
like I feel like ours
would have been watchable
the one that we've been
playing with Tom and Elliot
the point of D&D
is for not for it
to be watchable
yeah you're just
letting loose
you're not performing
you're not entertaining
you're just contained
we had a
because Ryan
every time we've
played our game
of D&D
because it started
at the start of lockdown
it was all through
fucking Zoom meetings
and then we eventually
had our first ever
face to face game it's much better face to face even though the Zoom one actually worked way better through fucking Zoom meetings and then we eventually had our first ever face-to-face game.
It's a much better face-to-face.
Even though the Zoom one actually worked way better
than I thought it would work.
100%.
We got through most of Tomb of Annihilation,
about three fucking chapters of it.
And what was more embarrassing,
not embarrassing,
I shouldn't say that.
I should be proud of who I am.
My other game,
where I DM Kai,
Elliot, Steel and Tom Horton,
we had to go do it publicly in a board game. Oh, right.
There's a bit of rules about that.
Hold on.
Since you're a guest on this podcast,
allow me to pose this question to you.
Would you, having played D&D with me for nine months now,
would you ever play it publicly?
Oh.
And why not
okay
how many windows
are in the
action
oh it's
it was open window
and there are
at least three women
who were there
who couldn't be bothered
working for home
so they've chosen
this cafe to work in
yeah because it's a
gaming cafe right
and it's got an upstairs
I don't think the downstairs
is usually used
for the gaming
right
I think that's more like
restaurant bar cafe
right
and upstairs
is where the gaming's happening
because it's early in the day
they haven't really opened
the top yet
so people that were there
we were the only ones gaming
it wasn't like people
were playing Magic the Gatherer
or anything like that
people were laptops
we're doing spreadsheets
for fucking
real important shit
and meanwhile
I'm like
you're in Nangalore
and Zalketh comes to work
would you in that scenario
I'd keep telling people to be quiet
just shut the fuck up
and I roll the dice
I just want to run
I'll text it to you
I'll text you my move
slightly piece of paper
oh so this is a secret note
No no
No no
I do this boldly
I just can't
And any time somebody
Looks over and goes
God
What are those numbers
That percentage
It's just so shy
What's our turnover
Jimmy
They know exactly
What we're doing
You would have been
Interesting to play with
Because Elliot
Tom and Kai
Had no No care No care And it made it So much better you would have been interested in Blywith because Elliot Tom and Kai had no
no care
no care
and it made it
so much better
to the point where
people were the best
in the whole game
with no
no they weren't
that's Kai's
you're not bad
when I rolled
I rolled a 13
when I needed
more than a 10
and we were stood up
it was a death roll
without getting
too fucking nerdy
there was one point
where Kai's character
had died
well not died
become unconscious
Elliot's character
had become unconscious
and Tom's character
was left
and it was the last
opponent left
and Tom was looking
to help
and he rolled
a natural 20
now
obviously
since you played
right you don't know
what a natural 20 is
since you're the worst
D&D player
we'll get to that
but
all three of them
lofts are shit
and I wish you could
have seen it
from my perspective
because the two women
who'd been watching us
play this game
the entire time
they laugh
took their tops off
they laugh
but in the same way
that you laugh
at a child
enjoying bubbles
like it was
like it was really
like oh
I never want to help
hang out with these guys
but I
no no
there was no malice
they saw raw joy
they saw raw joy
in a world
that is so cold
right now
everyone's eating
each other alive
everyone's just
fucking shitting
on each other
everyone's just
in that world
in a board game cafe
three men
chopped a woman
up in a game
and beat her
and Elliot
yes
and I
Kai
I'm the worst
roller
no matter what
happens
I think I feel like
I even question
this technique
we
so
for our G&D game
I bought
this sort of
just a bunch of
small miniatures
for like crates
and things
just so when we do
play in person
there's a little bit
of terrain
for the characters
to play in
and it came with
25 different
sets of dice
and Colin
has gone through
all of them
I keep going
they're all bad luck it's not here it can't be here it must be the. I keep going. They're all bad luck. It's not here. It can't be here.
It must be the dice.
I keep going. Anytime, it would always be the first arrow
I need to fire and it's just one
and I go, it must be the blue.
Give me the green dice.
Give me the green.
Straight one.
It's just one I needed too.
It's always the funniest thing.
I'm going to use my super duper exploding arrow on my first goal. it's just when I needed to aye it's always it's always the funniest thing he goes
I'm going to use
my super duper
exploding arrow
on my first goal
natural 1
ok
and then I'm just
going to use
a stick I found
on a tree
for my second goal
natural 20
I fucking hate this game
every single time
we'll move on
from D&D stuff
but if people
enjoy this
for the love of God,
watch either Critical Role Season 1 or 2 online
or also listen to Dragon Friends with Michael Hing,
which is also superb.
Also, I'm part of a Twitch one called Roll and Slice.
Roll and Slice.
Let's also plug the future.
In the future, we'll probably...
To be fair to you, you can't plug the past.
It's like nobody... Every time we've ever plugged, we've only plugged the future... To be fair to me, you can't plug the past. It's like nobody...
Every time we've ever plugged,
we've only plugged the future.
But I mean, you can't plug the past,
but please download my 2007 intro on my website.
Oh, I stand corrected.
Count down, Marty McFly.
No, trust me, he would not fuck his own mum.
None of us would fuck his own mum none of us
would fuck his mum
wow
Linda
it's deeply
uncomfortable
when you watch
that film nowadays
no idea
because incest
was so cool
back when you
were 12
you were like
just say that
sarcastically
as a joke
but it wasn't
thrown upon
man I guarantee
the people
the boomers
that lived through
the fucking
60s 70s 80s
they were like
things were way better
back in our days
you go
everyone was raped
by priests
and none of you knew it
because you didn't have
the internet
every single one of you
was molested by a priest
and none of you
could talk about it
because you didn't have
the internet
so it wasn't
women belonged in the kitchen
kids would speak
when they're spoken to
the fucking teacher
would hit a child with a stick.
Oh, no, no, no.
Not for clubs.
Blokes are going, blokes are going.
It was way better back then.
And they're like, hey, I'm for you.
Right, right, right.
They didn't hit kids.
They hit disabled kids.
There'd be a kid in class who was dyslexic, but back then, we didn't have a word for dyslexic.
We only had the word stupid.
So people in my granddad generation would meet someone who for dyslexic. We only had the word stupid. So people in my granddad generation
would meet someone who was dyslexic
or did cerebral palsy and be like,
well, they're just not learning fast enough.
Whip, whip, whip, whip, whip.
And these are the same people like,
fucking the 50s.
Yeah.
Oh, my.
Bring back me old days.
Aye.
I was at Dylan Warren,
had that joke about,
he's like, oh, you know,
he's chatting to his granddad
and his granddad's like,
oh, you know, back in my day. And he's like, oh, you know, he's chatting to his granddad and his granddad's like, oh, you know, back in my day.
And he's like,
well, we're back in your day.
Would you have slavery?
The kids can't do the mining
and that,
coming back with a shilling.
Just, by the way,
anyone that brags about the old days,
just remind them
that America,
America did not become
an actual,
legitimate,
full democracy
until about 1967.
Because before the World Wars, America didn't allow the blacks to vote legitimate full democracy until about 1967 because before
the world wars
americans didn't
allow the blacks
to vote
at any point
so it was just
it
it
every man
every man
is equal
as written
in the constitution
every man
i watched selma
we watched selma
recently
we did
selma was good
selma and louise
that was just straight up dumb We did, Selma was good. Selma and Louise.
That was just straight up dumb. When you started going like, I'm going to plug the future, I thought you were going to plug the new PlayStation.
That's where I thought you were going with it.
No, well actually that might play a part in it.
Because when I move up to Glasgow and when you get your fucking 5G master or whatever fucking witchcraft you're getting done to get your
5G
your data
we're going to
when I get a valid
internet connection
yes
so we're going to
have a studio
where we can do
the podcast
and we can stream it
visually
I'm literally
getting a
studio built
just now
just for my work
and for
book and stuff
but it's going to be
turned into a podcast studio,
which we'll use for this,
which Ryan and Gareth will use for Clear and Oblivious.
And you guys are going to do a FIFA campaign on Twitch.
And we'll be doing our own Twitch.
We've been working out ways we can play board games
with various camera angles,
so that we can play the board games on Twitch.
We want to do Zombicide on Twitch.
What a game.
What a game that is.
This is another thing
see Kyle
I never did
but I never did
board games
outside of Monopoly
and Scrabble
you know how
you know how
there's those
old high school
American movies
where they take
like the really
really ugly girl
and turn her into
like the prom queen
like I did with Natalie
don't get me wrong
it definitely happened within your Natalie me wrong it definitely happened
within your
Natalie's relationship
it definitely
took place
within your
thanks man
you think I'm looking good
compared to what you are
yes
a hundred percent
compared to what
you used to look like
compared to me
not a chance
but compared to what
you used to be
you think me
block white tracksuit
should be bleached
blonde hair
or something like
I look like a fucking young Tim Westwood well I wouldn't mind being blonde I'm getting fucking But compared to what you used to be You think me block white tracksuits and me bleach blonde hair was a thing like
I look like a fucking young Tim Westwood
Well I wouldn't mind being blonde and I'm getting fucking
Grey
Aye
Getting old ain't ya
You hit 13 and you hit it hard that day
Boom
No I had to like
Cara kept she was like you're getting grey hairs and I'm like
Just pick them out of your teeth and keep going
And she was like no she was like you're getting grey hairs and I'm like Those are bleach blonde and she'm like, just pick them out of your teeth and keep going. No, she's like, you're getting grey hairs.
I'm like, those are bleach blonde.
And she's like, you just asked them to bleach that bit.
There's a shot on the side, like a little finger in it.
Aye, but I feel so, like, genuinely,
the first, when she pointed out that I had grey hair,
the reason I was sad wasn't because I was going grey,
but it was this sort of shape of like,
Oh you're stressed are you?
And then, oh you've had a hard life, you live in this house, you get to tour the world and at the age of 30 you're going grey you fucking poof.
Like you're just so...
Only my grey hairs fellas.
Fuck that's a lot of grey hair. That's a lot of grey That's a lot of grey
Callum
Callum
When you get grey hair
What happens is
The grey hair props out
And then it falls out
And then it grows into a worm
And then it grows into a
Grows into a slug
And then it grows into another cullen
And then kills the old cullen
I had that said
That's how I get one
You're like a more biological version
Of the movie Prestige
It's less about the machine That David Bowie built But more just You're like a more biological version of the movie Prestige. It's less about the machine that David Bowie built,
but more just your strands of hair.
For any Christopher Nolan fans,
feel free to DM me about how excellent that reference was.
Did you know Christopher Nolan directed Flobber?
You went for it, Christopher?
I spent a second.
Because I'm a huge Christopher Nolan fan,
I had to back.
Imagine he just went does It's just something
that would be quite funny
like from like
Flubber to Interstellar
So what's it called
here
Rough Summer
God
Flubber was one of those
I could barely remember
No but I wouldn't go back
and revisit
because I
I did it's alright
You revisited Flubber
You didn't say he did it
He says I
Sorry I thought
I would revisit I did You revisited Flubber? You didn't say he did it. No, sorry I thought I'd said it.
You revisited Flubber?
A couple of times, aye.
He didn't even say it.
I'm gonna wind up.
In fact, quiz me, I missed a fandom on Flubber.
Okay, what's Robin Williams' character called?
Robin Williams, isn't it?
Dude, his character's called Flubber.
No, Flubber's the thing he invents.
It's not the thing he invents.
It's the first friends we met along the way.
Fuck off.
Right, any more questions on Flubber before we close that time out?
What colour was Flubber?
Like a kind of turquoise.
Do you not know that in green
that's the turquoise
is green
you're thinking
of interstellar again
right we've lost
our way
somewhere
so plug in the future
and I'll quickly
get this out of the way
we're going to do
loads of different
like the podcast
is going to get
running up and running
properly
video levels
no no no
none of these
are promises
these are hopes no These are hopes.
No, they're not promises.
I'll make them happen.
When I'm up here,
come on.
Look,
I'm building a studio
so we can do
these podcasts.
I had you do
18 weeks of fucking podcasts
remotely
from when I was in London.
We're going to be on a date
when you've got a studio
and a connection.
Yes, yes.
No, no, sorry.
I wasn't questioning the commitment to that. It was the fact that you're like, and we're going to do this and we're going to do that.
I'm like, don't ever put deadlines in my diary.
Not fair.
Not fair, what?
What's the internet?
Now, living in the past, living in the past, you've just had your birthday weekend.
I did.
It was a bit of a sesh.
It was a barbaric sesh.
It's now Wednesday and I'm still a bit sad.
It's a Wednesday?
It's still Wednesday, mate.
Thank God.
Do you think that's your first thing now in 30?
Everything lasts longer?
Oh, man, I hope not.
I don't know.
Because you've also recently turned 30.
I think it's a mindset
as soon as
and you know
because it's like
when you know
when you go like
from the two to the three
nobody cares about age
I don't really care about age
I don't even think
I know
I've seen them
girls you fuck
old bitches
old
decrepit
cryptonics
I just noticed
the way that people
just think you're going
you're like
well that's you
fuck now
it's never in England they said you you go uh you bang your toe on like a thing they're
like you'll be like oh and he goes that's how it starts and then your fucking leg will go gangly
it'll fall off and you're like jesus christ everything's a horror story you sneeze and
they're like starts off as a sneeze and ends up with two dead kids. What disease? You know, I just, I drunk drove.
I had to adjust
and that's why they're dead.
Yeah,
so it's a bounce back ability
that you start losing.
Like,
it used to be
at much less of a cost
for us to sesh.
Right.
But this week,
I've been like,
I've been full on
just moping around
since the party finished.
Like,
when am I going to get
my spirit back?
Is my soul going to re-enter my body or is this how I live now in just a state of numb? Right. Like, when am I going to get my spirit back? Is my soul going to re-enter
my body
or is this how I live now
in just a state of no?
Aye.
Well,
see,
that's where
and allow me to be vegan
for the next two minutes.
That's where meditation's
really important,
Kai,
because on those days
when you're having
the shit days,
meditation doesn't make
the shit days any better,
but it makes you
take a step back
and be able to have the tools to process the shit days any better but it makes you take a step back and be able to
have the tools to process the shit acknowledge what's happening acknowledge what's happening
accept what's happening that said um when i realized that i was in a fucking state of disrepair
i started taking uh being proactive about it i started my course of cbd which i got from
lakeland cbd i started that the night before last. I've got to give it away a little while before it starts activating my endocannabinoid.
Can you remind me of the, because we were down doing our Whitchurch Stourbridge gigs.
Yes, it was the first one, Whitchurch, where you met Nicola from Lakeland CBD.
Because I've tried CBD before, because I'm a huge, huge fucking stone.
All the CBD doses I've ever taken have been...
So she told me a little bit about it.
It activates then the cannabinoids in your body.
So it's actually you that's healing yourself.
I'm trying to say medicine, but it's not.
The CBD, it helps you help yourself.
So that takes a couple of weeks before that
will start coming into fruition.
It's not just
like a fucking
it's not like
a prescription drug
that you pop
and you just get
fucking high off it
straight away
I told Milo
what it was
and he was like
ooh can I have one
and I went
it would do
literally fuck all
like you need to
have recourse to them
and stay on them
and let it do its time
I started two days ago
and the reason
I didn't start
is because
I didn't want to
be taking this
alongside a session
I was about to go on so I've had it for a week but I was like I didn't want to be taking this alongside a session I was about to go on.
So I've had it for a week.
But I was like, I don't want to put this alongside cocaine and fucking alcohol and all that, right?
So I thought I'll wait until I come out the other side of it.
I like how you opened with cocaine but started with alcohol.
You're like loads of cocaine and heroin.
And then also a couple of Smirnoff ice.
There's sugar in it. I'll be honest with you
Kai
I feel like you
whispered the wrong bit
I'll tell you what guys
I'm about
I'll tell you what guys
I'm about to have sex
with a really beautiful girl
and she's 15 years old
oh no
no I've done it
no
have you noticed any difference
little CV from two days but also also I've done it no have you noticed any difference little CBD
from two days in
but also
also
if I was to answer that
I'd be like
yes I have noticed
a difference
I feel a lot better
today than I felt
yesterday
but that was because
I'm on less
of a condom
right
but
this should
start running
its course
because I was saying
like my problem
is like I struggle
to get out of bed
in the morning
like I've got no
get up and go
and so she gives
a particular dosage
told us to take it
just before my head
hits the pillow
and that should help
us out in the future
so I'll be able to tell you
if I'm bouncing out
of bed again
genuinely interested in that
because I've now
after my 30th birthday
chosen to take a week
a week off
a month off of weed
you can tell how much
it's on my mind
yeah
and I've always
been interested
in the CBD stuff
because the reason
I know I smoke
a lot of weed
sometimes is because
it's for my anxiety
it's because
it's just things that
and that's the medicinal bit
they've just bred
the strands
so that it breathes
out the THC
and breathes up
the CBD
and when you're
smoking it
for medicinal reasons
you're smoking it
for the CBD
the THC just happens
to get you high at the same time I know but as much reasons you're smoking it for the CBD the THC just happens to get you high
at the same time
I know but
as much as
I'm very excited
about the CBD
side of things
but I do
you like being high
man
me and Colin
and I know we talk
about this but
is there just
better kissers
when you've had it
more sensitive
more open minded
more
well
more truthy
which is the pain
that's why we have to
go further
so on top of that
I started that
two days ago
and today
I signed up
with Sam Harris
and I paid
the upfront for it
because
he's basically
got a full refund
policy
in fact he says
if you haven't got
the money to put up front
get in touch
mental health
shouldn't be he's waking up a meditation app if you can't got the money to put up front, get in touch. Mental health shouldn't be...
He's waking up a meditation app.
If you can't afford it,
you can literally just email them
and go, give me a free subscription.
And zero questions asked.
There's no reply email.
There's no show as your credentials.
If you go, can't afford it,
they'll go, here's your free subscription
to this fucking meditation.
Free refund with no excuses needed.
So you could actually fucking run the course
and do a refund
if you're a dickhead
but I believe
the meditation hasn't worked
if you're going to pull
that kind of stunt
aye
so do it
and get money back
but I basically thought
if I pay for it now
right
and then I find
I've like two weeks have passed
and I've used it twice
and then I'm like
not likely to use it
in the future
I'll just fucking cash in
that refund
so like
I'm just putting it up front
thinking
I mean I'll
try and stick to it
so I'm going to
try and run the meditation
the same day
alongside each other
and just see if
like stacking them
do you have to
take it before bed
is that what you're
trying to say
Natalie suggested
that she could
struggle switching off
after work
and her head's spinning
and she kind of
just enjoyed the movie because she was thinking about working out of pain just all them Al-Qaeda plans after work and her head's spinning and she kind of just enjoyed the movie
because she was thinking
about working out of pay
just all them
Al-Qaeda plans
going off in her head
oh there we go
Pascoe's book
that's how it starts
fuck me
cow
I'm sorry
fucking nod
Natalie got
proper pissed off
for being apologetic
for not mugging us off like that did she Natalie got proper pissed off for being apologetic for not mugging us off
like that
Did she
Natalie got proper pissed off
She can't be racist
in her book man
Aye yes
and I disagree
with what Sarah said
I disagree
with that aspect of it
Of course
I know you're not racist
You married one of them
That's the thing
with you
Did you marry a racist
I just figured out
Aye
You should be able What I'm saying't I'm sticking out you should be able
what I'm saying
what I'm saying is
we should be able
to have this laugh
that we're having now
with everybody involved
and no one getting hurt
without getting quoted
for a bit
absolutely
absolutely
but okay
let me just
remember a point
my main point
was always
I don't think
you should have
ever told that story
on any podcast ever
it wasn't my story
I don't think
no no
I popped a few punchlines
in a story
that was being told
aye
yeah and you should have
shut it down
you should have gone
this isn't a story
that blogs in a podcast
this isn't a good story
this isn't a fun story
there's no
this is
the fact that you
allowed the story to happen
is why you suffered
the consequences
this is where
the problem is with society
you wanted to silence
that story
the story should have
never happened
Elliot shouldn't have
done the thing
I
but I was asleep
so I couldn't stop
him doing the thing
and there wasn't
the podcast
so I couldn't stop
him telling the story
look I would
if you feel like
to say this site
I apologise
but I also know
I'm just making it
a bit now
Natalie's the one
that's fucking infuriated by it
sorry let me just face it
I wasn't actually apologising to you
I was apologising to Natalie
the thing that she was asked to do
is take
it's a smaller dosage and take it after
she finishes work
so you speak to them, speak to the guys
and just say this is where I'm at
I think it's going to be way more effective for people who actually have like
super anxiety or bipolar or borderline personality disorder or even more physical stuff like
arthritis.
I think it's going to be way more of an impact on their lives than it will be on me and Natalie
who are like, oh, I struggle to get up in the morning or my brain doesn't switch off
from work.
Like, that's just actually on the scheme of things, you know like I struggle to get up in the morning or my brain doesn't switch off from work like that's just actually
on the scheme of things
you know
I forget to say
like what my mental health
issues are
that's very low
on the scale
but I think
it is something
that's just going to
help us try and tackle
I mean
here's
again this is me
being a vegan hippie
don't compare
your mental health
to anyone's mental health
because that within itself
creates a problem
with your own fucking mental health.
It's a good thing to do regardless.
Like, it's...
I think it's a positive thing to go for.
Because you and me smoke a unre...
What?
Right, you didn't smoke weed until...
Recent.
Until when?
your fault yeah
yeah no I did not... fault suggests...
bad
blame yeah
you've never smoked weed before because...
because I don't take it because of the...
I like asthma and shit like that so
you got asthma?
you got a little bitch lungs?
middle of the list
alright little eh... I was going to say little bagged lungs
fist packets, small fist packets, watsit packets bitch lungs little I was going to say little bagged lungs but little bags
small little
watsit packets
watsit packets
little bags
are actually
very good
but it's good
it helps your anxiety
and stuff
but I don't know
what the CBD
stuff does
it's that
it's that
it's that
that helps your anxiety
so apparently
you know how you
and me love
fucking weed
and whenever we
get stressed about
shit
we all
apparently
the bit we're after there is apparently CBD and they've You know how you and me love fucking weed, and whenever we get stressed about shit, we all go,
wait, apparently the bit we're after there is apparently CBD.
Nah.
And they've managed to isolate.
Make it on site, right?
But unfortunately,
it's not an instant effect sort of thing.
Like it's...
Well, I mean, we'll see.
We'll see.
Well, are we using catties like in a guinea pig?
100%.
If there's anyone you send down the coal mines,
it's somebody that comes from the lineage
of people that belong
in coal mines.
If there's anyone
that is going to be
the Canadian this,
it's the fucking Joe.
The show of coal mines.
I clapped and I shouldn't have.
I should not have.
You gave him way more.
So the meditation,
I had a little shot of that.
I instantly wanted
to go back in
I should have
stayed there for a bit
because I finished one
and they're clearly
just bleeding it in
just kind of like
didn't give them
something too heavy
so the chat was for a bit
and it was funny
that
listen to
when he was saying
acknowledge your breathing
right
and I'm acknowledging
my breathing
and he interrupted
some thoughts
and he just said
look I've probably interrupted some thoughts right now which'm acknowledging my breathing and he interrupted some thoughts and he just said look I've probably
interrupted some thoughts
right now
which he had
he called it
he's like
that'll happen
don't judge yourself
because judgment
is your thoughts
and that too
needs to pass
right
so he's giving it
all this right
and he's going
so every time
you feel them
just let them pass
and then concentrate
on your breathing
and then look past
your breathing
and acknowledge
other sensory things
that you're feeling
and something I didn't
even know I was feeling
was coke snots dripping down the back of my throat.
Now what?
I'm going to think about all these things really fast
and really effectively.
Sam, Sam, I need you to tell me
how many times it's perfect for me to breathe
within the next 30 seconds
because I'll fucking triple it, buddy. listen sam listen i've got this idea you see this meditation we need to
make an app i love you know the best thing is you use like a different app to you right and you use
headspace no not the headspace i use the cam app it's just called right and it's uh but the
funniest thing is,
you know, like,
you're going through
all these different, like,
meditations and stuff, right?
But the funniest thing is
you can choose, like,
who says it.
There's a couple of voices
on each.
What, like sat-navs?
Nah.
Like, who's the chief?
I'm pretty much a fool
who doesn't concentrate
on his children.
Don't I find it?
Come to the
depression
side
breathe out
Jesus
yeah Darth
Vader talking
to you
breathe in
fuck this is
difficult
and breathe
out
I ain't
breaking
no plane
but I love
the fact that
there's all
different people
from different
around the
world but
anytime an English person comes on I go
No, that's it
Another few lessons to not get angry
I'm sorry, I'm sorry
Do you think this accent's relaxing?
Johnny, hello, hello
I'd like you to breathe through your nose
Oh fuck, they're back
Breathe through your nose, put your hands behind your head
And walk against the wall
I think it'd be worse.
Not this again.
It'd be worse if someone with my accent came on because I'd be like, I think I know this guy.
You're a cunt.
Fucking breathe through your fucking nose and I fucking swear to fucking God, if I see
a fucking negative thought in your fucking brain, I'll kill your dog.
It's just threatening.
Like, I feel much better.
See, now this is an interesting thing. it's just threatening like I feel much better see you know
this is an interesting
thing
god I never thought
this podcast
would ever turn into this
but it came from
a conversation
I had with Sopit
I like the
waking up app
because Sam Harris
does meditation
in what I describe
in a Milo McCabe
free way
there's nothing hippie
about Sam Harris's
meditation
it's just
this is teaching you how your brain works,
how your own psychology in your brain works,
and how to analyze your own thoughts.
I know they were like your Shakiras and that.
Oh, you've got to get your seven Shakiras lined,
and you've got to make sure there's two in your hips so that they can't lie,
and they've got to line up in the middle,
because otherwise, fucking, who's the Barcelona defender?
What shag you?
Pique.
Pique, there he is.
You need to piqueique you can't Pique
your head rest
or I pawn
that bad a pawn
no
but
you know
he would have loved it
he would have
I guaranteed
he laughed out loud
and applauded
if he
listened
who was it about
Pique you were talking about there's nothing hocus pocus there's no energy leaving you laughed out loud and applauded if he listened what was it about PK
you were talking about
there's nothing
focus focus
there's no energy
leaving you
for your trips
and all that shit
but I'm talking to
talking to Sopha
our friend
who did
I think about
even though
there was only like
two wars in Iraq
I think he did
24 tours
yeah
Afghanistan as well
like I think
he was in the past that happened in-Kaiba Pass. That happened in the 1800s.
He's the share of Afghanistan.
I think Sophe was involved in the Crusades at one point.
I think he was going through with a claymore.
Because if he wasn't going through a claymore, I don't know where he got that claymore from.
Is that what Florence and the Machine is to Glastonbury?
It's the piers on every single piano. That's the headline act.
But Sopho was talking about meditation.
He was going to do it and he used his headspace.
And it was very interesting because Sopho was saying
what he needed from meditation was to learn empathy.
What his headspace meditation was teaching him
to see things from other people's perspective,
to understand their points of view,
which is something I don't fucking struggle with. I'd never realised that people got different things from other people's perspective to understand their points of view which is something I don't fucking struggle with. I never
realised that people got different things from meditation
because for me it was understanding my own brain
that's why I'm interested in asking you with
the Calm app, what is it that you're
using it for and does it help
and help? It does, I got
like just... You have anger issues
I do
I've started getting therapy
and stuff like that
You made the right choice This is much better I do I do I've got I've started getting therapy and stuff like that yeah good
and I was doing
you made the right
choices
and this is much
better
thank fuck
I was going to
start a GoFundMe
for that
Colin
very bravely
and proudly
started going
to therapy
about a month
after
well
yeah that was
a change
a change to one here.
You and me started going to therapy
around about the same time
because we both realised...
Come on,
start at me.
Well,
I got a local guy
at the start of lockdown.
Oh,
in Edinburgh?
Oh yeah,
and how was it?
Oh,
I was with him.
Good fact,
doesn't find me funny.
Oh,
you're trying to make that a pisser job. I went, he's not helping me out, I got any. I was with him. Good crack. Doesn't find me funny. Oh, you're talking about a pisser, y'all.
He's not helping you out, I get any.
And I went, oh, that was decent.
He's just like, basically, he's not even going ticket serious.
He's just genuine.
He's just like, yeah, cool.
How old is he?
I don't know.
He's in his 50s.
Okay.
And does he find you amusing at all?
I don't think so.
He's just very good and professional is he right
he doesn't even enjoy
you as a concept
because as a concept
you're really full
as a concept
but is it like
is he like
an English teacher
to you
or is it
how does he speak to you
because my therapist
is Dutch
and I love my therapist
because my therapist
gets excited
whenever I swear because
legally he's allowed the permission to swear
then. Aye.
Not legally, ethically.
He's like, so I'm going to quote you here.
You are so fucking mad.
And his face lights up because he can't believe
he can swear. So you're telling
your therapist you're a mad cunt?
I've got a mad name. He's like, okay, you're mad.
No, no, no. What happens is I go to a mad name he's like okay you're mad no no no
what happens is
I go to my therapist
I'm like here's something
entirely irrational
that I lost my mind
about today
he's like alright okay
so somebody parking
slightly over the line
at Sainsbury's
made you want to write
a 4,000 word essay
describing exactly
how you wanted them
to kill themselves
let's discuss that
let's unpack that.
When we were fucked up on your birthday celebrations,
I had a conversation with Cullen here
about how he's too different people to me, right?
He's the fucking funny, quippy, charming lad
that we've got sat next to now.
And he's this fucking lad in the football WhatsApp
who's just a completely different person
and pissing everybody off.
Because he plays out to the character. Oh, but so well. It's like's just a completely different person and pissing everybody off because he plays up to the character
oh but so well
it's like it's a
completely different
guy like even when
I'm sat next to him
on the couch and
I'm in the WhatsApp
it's almost like
his WhatsApp messages
aren't as harsh
as they appear
because I can see
him
he's there
laughing
and that's why
having been in the
group that's why
I know Cullen's
breakdowns in the
group are never as
big as everyone
acts like they are because everyone in the group is like Cullen you'res in the group are never as big as everyone acts like they are.
Because Cullen, you're usually mine and I'm sat on the couch just looking over at Cullen being like, I mean he seems fucking...
So you thoroughly misrepresent yourself, right?
You do, you're your own worst cheerleader.
You thoroughly, thoroughly misrepresent yourself. It's like, you know how some people are sound when you meet them, but their Facebook is just like a fucking car crash.
And you're like, oh, which one's the real them?
You're like, is it Ryan that I know,
or is it Ryan talking about Ryan Frazier?
He's the worst of the Ryans.
So I asked you, when we were having this conversation,
I said, yeah, how many times have you mentioned Aubameyang,
which is, for people that don't know
Arsenal's star striker
Ryan's team, how many times
have you mentioned Aubameyang and he went
I remember this one time I told him and I was
telling him about this conversation I had where I lost my mind
and all that and then he said you've got to do this and I was like
hold on, did you employ a therapist
to coach you through your WhatsApp chat?
Just tell me how many goals you scored this week.
You've got a corner, man.
Every time I'm having a conversation with you
with a WhatsApp move,
I'm thinking of him just holding the towel going,
I've got to throw this in in a minute.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Do you think a therapist is a teammate?
That's what he is.
That's what the conversation was.
That's what I was laughing at.
Is that he fucking went and went,
oh man, I'm losing this jewel
in the WhatsApp
so what does your therapist
is it mainly anger
or is it
oh there's a lot of stuff
I don't want to talk about
but he basically
it's a
it does work
it does work
it does work
it really does
I would
if you can afford it
and you know
I find affordable stuff
there's ways of getting around it
but you have to
fucking fairly look
but okay
so literally
what are those ways
because basically
I was trying through
the NHS and stuff
because I wanted to get one
basically
like close here
you know what I mean
so I was changing around
trying on NHS
yeah
that's a bit of a
like a witness
and everything
as great as it is
and it's not great in Scotland
compared to it is in England
Because because the NHS is being stretched thing because of the Tory fucking government you fucking retards
I use a website called
I think it's Harley Reid therapy and they just give you basically
People that are nearby and you just pay there's a set fees up there like and some of them are all different prices and you can
Thank you. And you find that's work for you I did yeah I read her as Harley
Reid it's basically a thing but like that it's just a thing where it is it
can be affordable at least okay all right it's such a shame it's like it
kind of like it seems to be a middle-class luxury like or just middle
class calling but like it does but you've
you've been around
middle class people
that have suggested it
and you've got their
like I feel like
I know a lot of
working class people
that would like
it's not fashionable
for them
or affordable for them
and I feel like
there's so many people
I know that could
deal with it
man here's the thing
literally every person
in the world
should be in fucking therapy
every single one
I'd like to give it a pop I'd like to give it a shot like the fact literally every person in the world should be in fucking therapy every single one of them I'd like to give it a pop
I'd like to give it a shot like
the fact that
every therapist I know
goes to therapy as well
because they know
how important it is
and also their
their shoulder
and a lot of fucking stuff
that they've got
to just swallow up
but yeah
they understand
they're watching
car crash after car crash
on a daily basis
that's fucking hard
and they know
how much that affects your psyche.
So I constantly say this to Garrett,
because between how I was feeling last fucking November
and how I'm fucking feeling now is so different.
And it is fucking thanks to therapy.
And I get to go to therapy because I'm rich.
I'm successful.
And I get this.
And it makes my life so much fucking easier.
And it's a genuine fucking disgrace that I get that about other people.
It doesn't mean I feel fucking...
It shouldn't be a luxury.
It shouldn't be a fucking luxury.
It should not be a fucking luxury.
It should be almost compulsory.
You have to sign a waiver to get out of it kind of thing.
It should be good.
Because if everyone was in therapy, I promise you the world wouldn't be the way it is
the reason the world
is the way it is
because people
aren't dealing
with their own problems
they're putting them
out there in the
fucking world
like you said
then you worry
and you get scared
and when you get scared
you panic
and when you panic
you yell
and you start
fucking crying
and you lash out
and that's what it is
and regardless
what side you're on
whether it be left
or right
that's what fucking
happens
everyone should be
in fucking therapy
me and Natalie
were saying that if we decide to have children we'd should be in fucking therapy me and Natalie were saying that
if we decide to have children
we'd like to go
into therapy first
just to make sure
that we're not like
downloading any
shitty software
like is there anything
that like I need to
iron out
just things that
I haven't noticed
because I haven't
identified anything
of myself
that I need to take
to therapy
I haven't spotted that
which is why I haven't
been proactive
about doing it
but like
it's a bit more important
if I'm going to have a kid
it's like oh is there any shitty stuff that proactive about doing it. But, like, it's a bit more important if I'm going to have a kid.
It's like, oh, is there any shitty stuff that I'm doing that needs figuring out before...
Why do you...
OK, I just find that I agree with you in a sense,
but why does your responsibility go to your kid and not to yourself?
Surely, if your kid would benefit from your therapy,
how would you not benefit from your therapy?
Not benefit with hiring that out.
I don't know.
It's more just like a fucking...
It's a fear.
Handing it on.
Think like, I don't mind being responsible for myself.
I'm still kind of happy, you know.
So this is what I think the biggest mis...
The reason people don't go to therapy.
People go, I can handle it myself.
I go, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy.
Most of us...
What would my conversation be then? You know, like if I went to a therapist. Because I've never been, so I go, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy. Man, most of us... What would my conversation be then, you know?
Like, if I went to a therapist,
because I've never been,
so I don't know what it's like, right?
What would my conversation be?
Because when I just walk in and go,
like, I'd feel like, man, sorry, mate,
there's somebody, probably people that,
there's probably a queue of people that need it.
No, no, no.
Like, I'm just going to complain
about other people for a bit.
Like, in their behavior.
Is that all right?
Aye.
And because you're paying them money
they don't give a shit
what you talk to them about
they'll sit there
and listen
but he is
like
the first
in fact
I'll pose this question
to you
right
first question
do you think
your therapy
sorry how long
have you been in therapy now
well this guy
since he started
locked in
he's gone through them
how many have
I've done it
I've done it before
you had one before had before no no no
I also think
it's important to
switch
no I think it's
important to switch
if you have a
therapist that
doesn't agree
with you
he's like
you're male
you're like
I'll find a new
one
I need a yes
man get a yes
man in here
but I think it's
more important
just to get
someone for
some reason
I feel better
if you get
someone nearby
someone I don't even understand it doesn't make sense I think everything got more important just to get someone first. For some reason, I feel better if you get someone nearby.
I don't even understand.
It doesn't make sense.
I think everything got obviously a little bit worse always with lockdown.
Everybody's just sitting on their thoughts for months, essentially.
It's that boring.
Stewing.
Stewing.
So everything does get heightened.
But it does.
It does.
It does.
But at what point or was there a point where you felt the therapy started working?
Because for me, the first five sessions I had my therapist felt like a real big waste of time.
Did you?
Man.
I wouldn't, like, that first one was suck.
Yeah.
Man, it was, literally, I walked in there and I just told him, I'd emailed him before,
and I was just like, look, I don't like who I've become after this tour I don't like how I'm reacting
with all these fucking things
I want to sort myself out
and I went to a session with him
and I just told him
everything I was feeling
and literally at the end of the session
he was like
okay
and I'm like
what the fuck do you mean okay
like what do you
like
fucking fix it
and I go
and the next time
he's like
how do you feel
and I'm like
well you're still annoyed
about all these things
and he's all these other things and he goes okay
you know how does that make you feel get it off your chest was actually what you
need to do oh but you don't fucking realize it because he here's what
therapy is right it's all a therapist does is just let you keep talking and he
and your therapist never tells you anything about yourself your therapist
goes what's in this room and you go two couches and a dartboard and they
go what else is in this room and you go oh i mean if you're going to be specific there's two dartboards
uh yeah sorry there's two couches a dartboard a simpsons poster and a cupboard and he goes
look in the room again and you go all right my dead sister's in there yeah right let's talk
about that then there's a locked door. What's behind that?
No one knows.
You are never going to be,
you are never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever,
ever going to be your most open and vulnerable
in your first session with your therapist.
You never are.
You're not going to be that.
Man, it took until my fucking granddad died
until I text my therapist being like,
I'm having a really fucking rough day.
And I paid the man £65 to
cry on Skype to him
for 45 minutes and he was like
great session, I'm like I bet it was for you
I bet that was great
he probably fucking switched
his screen off, he's playing Minesweeper
he's playing Minesweeper
no no, Minesweeper
Minesweeper, he is
I didn't mean Dutch, I meant German he's Minesweeper. Mein Weeper. He is. I didn't mean Dutch, I meant German.
Mein Weeper.
Mein Weeper, here he is.
Mein little Weeper.
He's so sad about his dead granddad.
Now I'm playing solitaire.
He's having a little Mein Weepie.
Mein Weepie.
That first one, I just feel like I was just tired of a stranger. I'm in aepy that first one
I just feel like
I was just tired
of a stranger
in a fucking
waiting room
you know
someone just
sparks a conversation
in a waiting room
and you're like
well I guess
I'll talk to you
that's what you've
been doing
that's why I think
the best way
in an ideal world
what I would love
therapy to be
which is
you basically
go to someone
and go
hey hey hey
here you go
you've turned
18 years old.
By the age of 20,
you have to legally have gone to these 23 therapy sessions.
And if at the end of those sessions,
you feel like you don't need it,
you never have to do them again.
But just two years and 10 a year,
so less than one a month,
for the next two years
free therapy
once a month
and if at the end of the three years
you think you don't need it
you don't need it
I predict 95%
because you just suddenly go
people will get back
because they will go
that was helping me
I want to get back after this
it's not
it's not about
it's not about having problems
it's not about finding these things
in yourself to fucking fix it's not about finding problems. It's not about finding these things in yourself to fucking fix.
It's not about finding flaws and turning them into positives.
It's about understanding yourself and why you react in certain ways
and where in your childhood that comes from.
It's just understanding the chemistry of who you are as a human being.
Are they recorded?
God, I fucking hope not.
No, why would they be recorded?
Because they're like,
just so he can like,
go back and like,
know and study them.
Nah, don't do that.
I think if they are recorded...
Because they are in Ozark
and they are in Daredevil
and like,
on any like,
HBO type thing
where they've got fucking therapy,
like,
there's always like,
a fucking thingy of tapes.
Ah.
Oh, they're in.
Okay, yeah,
I've never thought about it.
And also,
my therapist does bring up stuff
I've said in previous sessions,
but I just thought
you'd be good memory.
Maybe he does.
He may take notes.
Well, man,
that's his job
and that's what a therapist
does.
I'm going to pull on a balaclava
and Rob Cullen's therapist
and he doesn't record
that fucking morning.
It's just a late table.
So what,
what's your name?
Colin,
Colin,
why are you so angry?
Our Teta is still seventh.
I can't fathom it.
He's not tracking back.
I'm such a,
I'll start the NMI
therapy on Twitch.
Well,
I mean,
that's the only reason
I went to therapy
is because I don't have
the internet connection for Twitch
that's what I was
thinking
I was like
I think my mental
health would be so
much better
if it was better
oh if I could
produce
yes
I'm going to do
we'll do a longer
one today
this isn't going
to be a narrow one
but I'm just going
to say at this point
let's move on to
the Michael Corners
because we do
a festival
I've got one
if you want.
Well, in that case,
do you want to introduce
Muggle Corner first?
This could be quite quick
because I think
it's just straight in.
I think it's straight in.
We're going to unpack it.
We're going to unpack it still.
Just in case
there's new listeners,
just explain what?
Muggles,
they're an inoffensive being
but a muggle
is somebody
that does some
like low
programming level
shit like
the textbook
one is
love laugh live
on the wall
of your living room
is muggle behaviour
like if you watch
X Factor
chances are
you're a muggle
Britain's Got Talent
if your co-worker
goes on holiday
and you're like
put me in your suitcase
that's muggle banter
it doesn't make you a bad person if you said Mr Bit to the cleaner If your co-worker goes on holiday and you're like, put me in your suitcase, that's muggle banter.
It doesn't make you a bad person.
If you said, Mr. Bit to the cleaner, to the window cleaner, you're probably a muggle.
If your neighbour's mowing his lawn and you're like, do my next smuggle behaviour.
It's harmless.
If you text into the music channel in the early thousands with your name and your source's name,
to see what percentage you got, you're a muggle. I have been muggled? No! Sorry, one minute. What are you talking about?
Wait, do you not remember this? We were talking about the little spinny
balls and stuff. No, no. Do you remember back when MTV was
a music channel? Like BOSS?
Between? It was a box.
Aye. A kiss.
A box. I remember the box. You text in your name, your Chris's name,
and it just texts you literally your Nokia 3310. 25% or something. I remember the box. You text in your name, your cousin's name, and it just texts you literally your Nokia
3310.
25% of something.
Aye.
That's hilarious.
Fucking me.
So some guy's just sitting there going like, wing it.
Just getting, just ruining teenagers' hopes and dreams.
Because I texted my big crush all the way through high school was Laura Young, and I've
got no problem saying that name because it's incredibly common. But Laura Young was my huge huge crush and I texted that name and
that 12% made sure that I never pursued her again. So Laura if you're listening you could
have had me but some chap doing text messaging. Unfortunately, what got between us was Kerrang.
I love that it's Kerrang.
The producers of Kerrang.
It feels so Kerrang, but so Kerrang.
Oh, no.
Have you ever won anything on a show like that?
Yes, I won.
I'm so happy you asked this question.
I won a portable DVD player from Nickelodeon when I was 12 years old.
You don't need to be portable.
Why am I lost my mind?
You've got a screen on, you've got a laptop on.
So remember when DVD players were big things you had to connect to the TV?
Yeah.
In about 2002, 2003, portable DVD players.
So it was smaller than a laptop.
So it was flash in the pan as a mini disc.
Oh yes.
Because you would just put it in your laptop.
There was no need to have just an isolated DVD player.
Oh no, but even the laptops didn't have the CD.
It was much longer after that.
They couldn't play.
But basically when I was about
30 years old
Nickelodeon was on TV
and they were like
we're looking for
some new
movie reviewers
send us in your movie
I've actually told this
show in the podcast before
send us in your movie reviews
and I was just
bored to my limb
and I was like
okay
I'd like to review
101 Dalmatians
I wish all of those
Dalmatians were cut all of those Dalmatians
were cut up
and turned into a jacket
and I just sent it away
because I was
a troll
before trolls existed
and I sent it through
17 minutes later
on the TV
and we've got
our first answer
in here
from a young
Daniel Sloss
he says
he'd like to review
the movie
101 Dalmatians
and they did not
they clearly did not
read it through at all
because the guy
was like
I'd like to send
all of those dogs
into a coat making
that's a beautiful
letter Daniel
thank you so much
no
they sent me
the fucking DVD player
you want a portable
DVD player
and a joke
they weren't allowed
to read out
yes
just send them
the DVD player
we've been done.
Sorry, I feel like I interrupted the story that you wanted to...
No, I actually didn't.
No, so yeah.
I've never wanted it.
He's never wanted it.
Teletext.
People used to fucking send it.
Like, as you can get at the depths of Teltext,
there was like 999 different pages on Teltext, right?
And one of them was about pen pals.
People looking for pen pals and put their fucking address on Teltex right and one of them was about pen pals people looking for pen pals
and put their
fucking address
on Teltex
so anyone would
trust the television
could open Teltex
like I used to only
use it for like
whatever fucking
football results
or bamboozle
you know
the little game
those were the days
do you know what I'm
talking about
yes
I used to
so it would be like
multiple choice games
can't put fucking
their addresses
to be pen pals on
for the price of 26 pence.
You could send debauched fucking bullshit
at least fucking straight.
That's so weird to do.
You know what fucking can't?
Yeah, I got your finger off Teltex
and just fucking start spieling.
I'd love to see them now.
I can't remember what I wrote.
Grossly inappropriate.
If our parents saw them, they're dead.
And if you saw them now deeply ashamed
deeply ashamed
like honestly
like fucking
Sarah Pascoe
with a fucking
polo
I swear to god
right
next episode
can we try
to not
there's a bit
I'm just saying
everything I say
doesn't get turned
into fucking
stone
stone and put the
back of it
everything that leaves your mouth is like and here's the thing that can help people stand and put the back of a dustbin everything that leaves your mouth
is like and here's the thing that
Kai Humphries will stand by for the rest of his life
now I've got to end up in a whoops bin
a whoops bin
I enjoy that
it's funny
a whoops bin
that's way better than being cancelled it's A whoops bin? That's way better than being cancelled.
It's a whoops bin isn't it?
No, no I was pretending I had books and a whoops bin and I ended up with the fucking
99k flash sale.
Oh, that's funny.
A whoopsie bin?
I thought the whoopsie bin was the fraction of being cancelled.
I said no way for it to be cancelled.
Into the whoopsie bin.
He had a whoopsie. I did the whoopsie bin yeah the whoopsie
back to the whoops bin
again
what do you mean
it's cancelled
no
it's the whoops bin
the whoops bin
is actually way better
than the cancelling
because cancelling
is too permanent
look people make mistakes
they say things
they don't mean
they say things
they don't do
but as human beings
we all grow
and we all learn
the problem with cancelling
suggests that you don't
get another series
after that
but if you put somebody in the whoopsie bin,
in the same way that you go into the sin bin in rugby or hockey,
you're going to lie back out in about five or ten minutes.
Tail between your legs.
Why?
I'm sure you're going to the thing about the hookah.
There we go.
We need to change cancelling people to putting people in the whoopsie bin.
The whoopsie doopsie bin.
But also, you've got to make sure that there's a boundary for it. Like, Donald Trump doesn't get to go in the whoopsie bin. The whoopsie doopsie bin. But also, you've got to make sure that there's a boundary for it.
Like,
Donald Trump
doesn't get to go
in the whoopsie bin.
He doesn't get to be like,
he gets to lead the,
right about him,
right about Donald Trump.
Are you trying to bring
down your dickhead?
He did so.
That'd be funny
if you were like,
you killed an entire
family of children
and you're just like,
well,
whoopsie bin for me.
No, no, no,
you're cancelled.
Donald Trump being like
we need to kill
Black Lives Matter
and the Republicans
are like
we'll be honest
he belongs
in the whoopsie bin
as Republicans
we've got a strict
and the Dems
are like
three
a million
he's in the whoopsie bin
we've done everything
we're politically
able to do
did you see
Kanye pissing on his Grammy speaking of presidents I saw someone tweeting about like million he's in the whoopsie bin we've done everything we're politically able to do did you see Kanye
pissing on his Grammy
speaking of presents
I saw someone tweeting
about like why is there
no pressure
just drop it on his
cock
no because he's on
well no he's not on
enough drugs at the
moment
I also realise I want
to give one clarification
specifically to
Natalie
yeah
the reason I
am not willing to put
Sarah Foley in the whoopsie bin
and hate her fully
the reason I've got loyalty to Sarah
is because of Latitude Music Festival
when she took drugs off an 18 year old
I was there, she took drugs off an 18 year old
fucking put that in your book
we've taken drugs off 18 year olds.
Aye, and I'm not writing books being a fucking whole other than Al Conde.
Aye, aye.
I thought that's right, I thought okay,
that dude took a pill off an 18 year old the time I thought it was cool.
Right.
No, my story here is, was, I was about to take half a pill.
I didn't want to take any drugs
and
this was
I mean about
7-8 years ago
yeah because Elliot
still was 18 then
oh
the same person
she threw under the bus
was it Elliot
I don't know if it was Elliot
was it Elliot
was it
I was on drugs
so I can't remember
but basically
I
me and Sue
both had a pill
and I was like should we just take it and she was like sure we both took it and had a pill and I was like,
should we just take it?
And she was like,
sure,
we both took it.
And I turned around
and I was like,
fucking,
this is strong.
She was like,
you didn't take a full one,
did you?
And I was like,
of course I took a full one.
She was like,
I said only to do a half
and I was like,
oh my God,
you did say to take a full,
you did say to take a half,
oh my God,
I've taken a full one.
And with that second thought,
she threw the second bit
in her mouth
and joined me on it.
No, that's what I mean,
I thought she was sound.
Like, we were in Australia,
like, I remember when I was, like,
fucking, like,
just teaching Shappi Koshandi's kids
how to swim, you know,
like, being a swell guy.
Ah, but what does Shappi say about you in her book?
You tried to drown her children.
At one point, you told her son
that he would either sink or swim.
Yeah.
Nice one. Muggle Yeah. I swam.
Muggle Corner.
Muggle Corner.
Muggle Corner.
Muggle Corner.
Mine is about...
What of that was your...
My Muggle Corner, nah, I was just spelling out what Muggles were.
And then it got into yet another conversation.
My Muggle Corner is gender reveal parties.
You got this as well.
Oh, cool, babe.
I made you, snap.
So, I actually, Ryan and Kyle, you're gonna have to kiss
because you both got the same model of horny.
This has never happened before.
So, we'll just do it on a...
Stop laughing at Kyle, he's trying his best.
Stop laughing at Kyle, he's trying his best stop laughing at
Kyle he's trying
his best
stop laughing at
each other
oh yeah
stop it
oh yeah
well you do
know there's some
like ADSRM
fucking fiends
that are jacking
the fuck over
you slapping
their lips there
I come from the
kind who's got
fetish fangs on
his switch
cap
this one thing I know is I'm not going on the podcast The cunt who's got fetish fangs on his switch coat.
That's one thing I know will not be on the podcast.
This clearly all came from that story where the guys burnt down houses like America, basically, with fun.
Did you see Alex Edelman's incredible tweet?
No.
If you have a gender look, this is Alex Edelman,
who's been on the podcast before,
the most Jewish
man that's ever lived.
Brilliant comedian. His tweet was
if you have a gender reveal party and it
puts an entire forest on fire
it's a boy.
That's very funny.
And it's incredible.
These gender reveal parties
they haven't, or at least I want to gender they haven't or at least
I want to believe
they haven't fully
made their way
to
the UK
yet
yeah
because in America
it's
it's become this
I've seen a few
in the UK
have you
Harry Kane
it'll just be like
Harry Kane
Harry Kane
he did one like
a free kicker
apparently
and it hit the thing
and it burst
like a tank Harry Kane took a penalty and it hit the thing and it burst. It took a few takes.
It's been five years.
I still don't know.
Colin Wilson?
He's good player.
Why did he go in?
He scored on the weekend.
He's had as many goals as a Bami hat.
But against who?
Against West Ham actually
there was a
deal like this
we chatted with
the podcast
there was an
American quarterback
who tried it
as opposed to
those British
quarterbacks
but he had
scored a 25p
back
same as Harry Kane
had he hit the
thing
but he
he fucking
missed
like he missed
it
it was so embarrassing
and I was like
surely why is this live
just
edited
cut
cut
cut it out
like it's absolutely
I don't know
I just kind of see
why like
you wouldn't just
like send a group chat
text us
your pals
even just put a
Facebook status
you know what I mean
it needs some kind of
fucking
theatrical
prestige level
fucking shade like why does it need to be
well see because i've got i'm in a morally difficult position but i think like i wouldn't
have a gender reveal party but i would like to know what gender the child is before it was born
just because i'd just like to know but if the child grew up to just go like if i had a daughter
who's like at the age of 15, be like,
Dad,
fucking,
I love you deeply,
but you should have made me with a cock.
You got this wrong.
I'll take it on the chin.
I'd be like,
all right,
lad,
all right,
lad,
let's fucking,
let's get into.
I may be behind the times,
but I think it's perfectly fine and normal.
And I am going to definitely 100% do this,
no matter what society tells me to just assume
your child is cis
until
until they say
otherwise
and I will just
go along with
the cis child
until they make
some kind of
adult decision
and the second
they go
I'm not cis
you go
hey alright
and you know what
if I notice any
child decisions
like they're not
decisions
if I notice any
traits or anything I'll just lean towards it if we fucking boy wants to play with Barbie dolls And you know what Like if I notice Any child decisions Like they're not decisions If I notice any traits
Or anything like that
I'll just lean towards it
If we fucking
Boy wants to play
With Barbie dolls
You play with Barbie dolls
No
Like if
Your toys aren't
Going to dictate
Like this is what
We force upon the children
I agree with you
But you'll admit
Whether a boy or girl
If your kid goes near cricket
You'll stop them
Plays cricket?
You'll stop them
Yeah
Regardless of gender You'll stop your child cricket? you'll stop them regardless of gender
you'll stop your child
I'm going to have to take them
to the sport
play a sport
that I'm going to enjoy
why is the tool you use
for the sport
the same tool I use
to beat all the dads
who are also at the sport
because this is a Tony game
what do you think
someone accepts those sports
then by cricket?
for your kids? I would accept those sports then by cricket? For your kids?
I would not accept
my child playing cricket.
I would...
And I mean that sincerely.
Don't take this as a...
I was going to say
because I would say
tongue in cheek
if my kid wanted
to play cricket
he'd knock yourself
out with a cricket bat.
Oh no, no, no.
If my kid wanted
to play cricket
I'd knock him out
with a cricket bat.
That would be the
thing to do.
You do not play cricket in Scotland
unless you wear a Rangers shirt.
I didn't think I'd ever put restrictions
on their enjoyment and stuff.
I just kind of wanted to figure out the world,
different let society tell you
which fucking bracket you belong in.
You just can't sort that out.
And anything that sticks,
really fucking throw yourself.
Whatever you love
if I see them
fucking really
killing it on the drums
or whatever
I'm like right
okay let's get you
good at this
this has got your passion
killing it on the drums
like Dave Grohl
Dave Grohl's doing videos
with like some
nine year old
have you seen that lassie
that
the drummer
that's like
nine year old lassie
that's fucking mint
and she's like
she's got her
tongue out
like fucking
killing it
can you genuinely
imagine how
awkward it is
as a
as a trans
person
to watch
your own
gender reveal
video back
like imagine
your mum and
dad are like
it's a boy
and then for
your 21st
birthday
they're like
hey
here's a video
from the day we knew what you were they're like it's a boy and then for your 21st birthday they're like hey here's a video from the day
we knew
where you were
they're like it's a boy
and you're just sat there
full dressed
being like
fucking boy
did you waste
25 bucks
on getting it wrong
plot twist
motherfucker
got it wrong
turns out
I was
I was about to say
the bad guy
that's not the narrative
I want to fill in there
I think right I was about to say the bad guy. That's not the narrative I want to fill in there.
I think... Right, I may be getting this wrong.
But if I'm to assume, sis,
there's a huge chance I'm going to be right.
Statistically, there's a huge chance I'm going to be right.
But if you want to just go,
right, I'm not going to gender you.
I'm just going to carry on until you know for yourself.
There's a huge chance you've got that wrong there is but what I will say
Brad Scott who you know yeah his his son is my godson and but my godson was born
a girl yeah and Harper yes yeah so he was born Harper He's now Charlie Oh, I didn't know
Like I knew
I knew he was trans
I didn't realise he'd changed his name
Yes, so Harper was born
Harper to Brad
And was
Female, 12 or 13
And then just at the age of 13
Well, I mean not just
Not in a spring of the moment
Through his life Realised that he was born in not in a spring of the moment, through his life,
realised that he was born
in the wrong fucking body,
had the courage to tell his dad,
which we're both immensely
fucking proud of,
and he's just gone
through that now.
And it's,
you know,
and Brad's dealt with it
in the best way,
which is essentially...
Has it done too much damage
to Charlie being raised
as a girl
because society had assumed
by a genital such as a girl? No had assumed by her genitals that she was a girl
no Charlie's problem is
that he lives in Indiana
right which is very
progressive
what's the opposite of progressive
Indiana
the opposite
the literal opposite of progressive
so my wonderful godson
who is one of the most
courageous, brave and kind
people I've ever met is currently
going through this shit
and again this is
I'm wildly ignorant about trans issues
hugely fucking so
I know so fucking well
to the point that I find it dangerous to talk about
100%
it should be a conversation but it's a conversation you're
scared of
but I'm scared of it
because like I have
this godson who I
love fucking immensely
right but I'm not
going to pretend for a
second I don't know
what he's gone through
I don't know what he's
going through and I
don't know what he
will go through so
when I talk about him
I am going to get
shit wrong because no
matter how much I
talk to him no matter
how much he explains
shit I'll never have
his experience
and
what's
what's so great
about him
is because obviously
he grows up in this
fucking
shitty fucking state
that won't accept him
it's because his dad's
so accepting
because we're all
so accepting
and he's got this world
which is
beautiful to him
where it's
well I mean
at least I hope
it's fucking
inspiration for him
and I've lost my point. Your point was? You find it awkward to talk about?
No I find him disgusting that much. I'll assume all my kids are Apache helicopters.
Man is that not the worst fucking banter. It's the worst fucking banter in the world.
It's...
What it is,
is it's banter from somebody
who understands 1% of something
and then they're like,
so if you're...
It's Piers Morgan.
So wait, wait.
So if Sam...
Which one of the 600 genders do you...
So if Sam Smith could be either,
I could be a fucking penguin
Piers
if you act like
a fucking penguin
walk into the fucking
safe place
leave your fucking
kids
right go in
and I'll feed you
entire fish
down your fucking
gullet
and you're not
allowed to wash
and I will make sure
and I'll make sure
that every second
of your day
you're terrified of polar bears
that's when you're allowed
to identify
as a fucking
this idea
like
aye
it's always like
a complete jump
you're the next
fucking
it's about the gay marriage
thing
where we're marrying dogs
yes
yes
it's the exact same
fucking argument
that's coming right
before we let the gays
get married
they're like
well if we let the gays
get married where does it end and the answer was it ended we let the gays get married, they're like, well, if we let the gays get married, where does it end?
And the answer was, it ended with the letting the gays get married.
They've got the same thing with fucking trans issues.
Well, if a man can identify as a woman,
and a woman can identify as a man, where does it end?
There. That's...
Or they could be in between. But what...
But it ends with two girls sucking each other's cocks, get over it.
Like, why does that bother you?
Aye, stop!
Stop searching that bit on Pornhub, you psycho! Why is your head in? Stop searching that bit of porn
Have you psyched?
Why is your head in some other adult's bedroom?
Yes, yes, yes
To a certain extent
Get involved in that shit when it starts
Becoming non-consensual
Or children
Or something where society needs to get involved
As long as society doesn't need to intervene
Live your life
live your goddamn
life
live your goddamn
life
so Muggle Corps
are generally
real parties
I don't want to
I don't want to
can of worms
no no no
I think that was
at least I hope it was
I feel that was
aye
I mean
Charlie
please feel free
to text me
and correct
all of us
about everything we got wrong.
We are here to...
That's what I think as well.
It's not Charlie's job to educate us.
It's kind of our job to educate ourselves.
That's why I was just talking about that.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Fuck that.
Charlie's currently going through absolutely his show.
I'm putting it on him.
And only him.
The whole world.
Charlie, buddy boy
you know how much
I love you
teach me everything
no
no you're right
it's not Charlie's
but
it's not Charlie's
job to teach me
but I am
the knowledge of that
has got to come
from the source
because we can't
have the knowledge
of that come from
a passive place
but I'm learning
from Charlie
like I'm learning
through what in very in small, I'm learning through what,
in very,
in small increments,
but learning through
what he's going through,
it's making me more
understanding.
And it is something
that I'm deeply ignorant on,
which is why it's so uncomfortable
to talk about sometimes.
I'm ignorant so much
because I'm fucking 100%
on one side of the scale on so many things. I amdano. Rwy'n 100% ar un ochr o'r sgail ar so amser.
Rwy'n blwch iawn.
Rwy'n 100% ddyn, rwy'n 100% yn gyffredin, rwy'n 100% yn gwael.
Yn ymddangos...
Ydych chi'n 100% gyffredin?
Ydych chi'n 100% gyffredin?
Rwy'n hoffi cocc.
Ydych chi'n dweud beth?
Rwy'n hoffi gweld ei cocc.
Rwy'n hoffi gweld ei cocc.
Rwy'n hoffi gweld ei cocc.
Dyma'r peth, iawn.
I hate to see his cock.
I mean,
I've seen his cock. You hate to see his cock?
No, no, no,
this is the thing, right?
I would,
but not out of anything sexual.
What?
I'd want to, like,
Just for a laugh, you know?
Well, not even a laugh,
just more like...
You wouldn't kiss a bloke?
There's no dedication to kissing.
No, I would think it, like,
probably, like,
turn birds on.
Just to get birds
to let us off.
Probably just pay me
a pound of flesh, you know.
Charlie, Charlie,
stop listening to this bit.
Well, I would say,
aye,
I would be, like,
Idris Elba's cock, right?
Yes, I would.
If I was given the option
to see his cock,
aye,
but it would be,
I would have just been inquisitive.
Man, I'd snog,
I would have a
three week
relationship
with Idris Elba
and I don't think
I'd enjoy the sex
but I'd enjoy
the other
174 hours
I would friend zone
Idris Elba
I'd absolutely
friend zone him
even if I
even if I
even if I
fuck mate
I'd just be like
nah man Idris Elba I want to see other people and then just kind of even if I fucked even if I fucked mate I'd just be like nah mate
I want to see
other people
and then just
go and shag
birds
I love being
bird fight
I don't know
why it's so funny
it's like when
Bill Bars is
brought
sometimes it's
just
I think it's
because I just
listen to everyday
sexism as well
now it's just
got this new
layer of how
wrong I know
it is
look and sexism is funny now it's just got this like new layer of how wrong I know it is aye look and sexism
is funny for the wrong reasons
anyway
I just think like
I 100%
straight white bloke
and that's like
that's the only lens
I can see the world through
so like I have to
like read
and watch
and listen
and like
and educate myself
through other people's lens
because I have got absolutely no fucking horse in the race
for a lot of them lifestyles.
But I believe that's...
I think that's the right way to go about it,
is to go, I'm going to try it.
That's something I only learned later on in life,
is suddenly going, you know how I think I'm right
and everyone else thinks I'm wrong?
I might start trying to understand
why they think I'm wrong.
Yeah, because they're not just doing that to be awkward.
They're not just doing it to be shy.
They believe this too, so I should try my best.
That's why I spent the whole Black Lives Matter movement chatting.
People who, like me, were white blokes
that just couldn't see it from another point of view.
I was like, oh, let's see what you've got to say also.
Why are you so firm?
Why are you not open-minded like me?
Turns out I'm open-minded because I've fucking seen the world.
I've travelled, I've met other people
and I've started looking at the world through other people's lens.
And when they've travelled, they've travelled either 50 miles
to bed at all
aye
and they've never
read a fucking book
that's from the point of view
of a black woman
or something
they've never
they've never
they've never seen
life through a different lens
the entire problem
with the
no sorry
the entire problem
I'll not fucking do
a black and white thing
but a big problem
with the American
fucking South
and the American general
is the
tactical
lack of education
that has been enforced
and it has been
a tactical
lack of education
that Republican governments
since 1967
have enforced
keep them stupid
yes
yes
because
we don't need chemtrails
because the fucking
very
the chemtrails
on the liquor store
extremely right wing
governments understand
they need to keep
a populace stupid
in order to win
the fucking vote
and that's
yeah
yeah I found like
I'm not saying a lot of the people
I talked to were unintelligent
because maybe they did
have an education
maybe they had a university degree
I didn't have
but a lot of the people
I spoke to
were uncultured
they hadn't looked outside
of their own little
fucking family unit and they were nice people and hadn't looked outside of their own little fucking family unit.
And they were nice people
and they were very protective of their own
and quite tribal.
Matt, no, no, no, man.
That was and still to some extent is me.
Like, I'm not going to put that on other people.
I still am.
My way or the highway.
Yeah, no, I have that deeply within myself
my beliefs that I hold
are so profoundly
to me
that if someone else
like these
deeply fucking
Christian
these deeply fucking
racist people
that exist
as much as to you
and me
we're like
how can you be like that
it's just within them
because of their
in the same way
that you and me
are the way we are
it's because
we were fortunate enough to be brought by liberal-ish parents.
Yeah, that loved each other.
That loved each other, healthy sort of things.
All three of us, Colin.
So, gender reveal parties.
Muggle court.
It's absolutely muggle court, Ali.
I mean, the fact that we're both fucking doubled it.
Aye.
And we'll, I think that's a good one because we're now on...
And as well, there's that extra layer of Muggle Corner.
Like, it's an American thing that English people are starting to do,
like your Black Fridays and your Thanksgivings and stuff like that.
Where you're just like, oh, man, that's a dip.
To every British person listening to this podcast,
as a country, and to this podcast as a country
and I say this as a Scottish person
while we're still part of your fucking shite country
we need to
stop trying to embrace America
because America hasn't been
great for roughly
1967
is the
exact year, well not the exact year but well, not the exact year,
but the year that the Republican Party
started going to Newt Gingrich.
That's when it started accepting,
for the first time ever in American history
and democratic history,
they started accepting outside demagogues.
I've read a very good book called,
and I sound intelligent at any point,
it's from a book Mark Nelson bought me called sound intelligent at any point it's from a book
Mark Nelson bought me
called
Why Democracies Die
it's a wonderful book
I read it within three days
and it's fascinating
so I recommend that
and then you go
and now
my dad jokes
no no
even more
no no
infinitely more exciting
than that lad
so much more exciting
than that lad
we get to plug gigs
for the first time
in god knows
and Cullen
I know you're looking
at your phone
being like
I don't have any gigs
but Cullen you do
because on Monday
next fucking week
you and I
are at the stand
Newcastle
along with Cullen
21st
we're all doing that
new material
that's good
I'll take everyone tonight it's gone also it'll be Cullen will probably join 21st we're all doing that new material that's good new material night that was a good one tonight
just gone
also it'll be
Cullen will probably join
at the
Newcastle stand
the way this is working
and this is literally
just between us
podcast listeners
between now
and the foreseeable
fucking future
I will be trying
to do gigs
every Monday
at the Newcastle stand
book in pay attention to the fucking website and I'm going to be on most of at the Newcastle stand book in pay attention
to the fucking
website and I'm
going to be on most
of them I've put
most of them in
and as will Ryan
because we live
together and it'd be
also I've got a
you probably listen
to this on a
Thursday so that
means you have got
time if you're on
the Liverpool area
to bag your tickets
for hot water comedy
which is on there's
an early and late
show like a seven
and a nine o'clock
show the lineup will be
sick as fuck 18th
and 19th of
September and on
the 23rd and 23rd
of September we are
in North Allerton
that's mean you
come on the 24th
of September with
the Nottingham
Glee
Birmingham Glee
on the 25th
and then on the
26th of Glee
there's two shows
in a barn are you
part of that as well?
I think I am
thank you
yes
Gracie and Bruce
are coming to that
aye
in Leeds
in yes
and then
hold on
and then Newcastle
on the 28th
and then Punch Drunk Comedy
is coming back
on the 29th and 30th
with Matt Reid
Louise Young
and Gavin Webster
am I on that?
no
I'm a no
because it's in my diary
is it? 29th and 30th do you want to do it? do you want to announce that now? yw ymgyrch Gavan Webster. Ydw i ar hynny? Nid. Ydw i yn gwneud hynny oherwydd mae hynny yn fy diarad. Ydy?
29 a 30, ydych chi eisiau ei wneud? Ydych chi eisiau cyhoeddi hynny nawr? 29 a 30? Ie. O beth?
O September. 28, bydd Newcastle yn rhaid i mi hefyd. Ie? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rungyn gyda'r newydd? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth newydd? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywb somebody's new stuff I go on then there'll be like 70 people sold out you can just
every time of day
just figure out
new material
I go on then
it's probably on
so with
Daniel
Louise Young
Matt Reid
and Gav Webster
Ryan
man
shows
yes
basically just those two
I was making one yesterday
and it was cancelled
it was cancelled
it's so gutting man
but bar that
no
you're supposed to
just follow me
no
but you've also
clean a bit of your podcast
yeah
clean a bit of your podcast
going well
so me and Gareth
are always over there
on that
and we plug all our gigs
into that too
let's get on that
because that's way more
regular than this
so people can
alright
the clean a bit of your podcast
and this is a perfect time
to actually join in
with the clean a bit of your podcast
because if you are
oblivious to
American football
that is exactly
the fucking point
of the podcast.
Gareth came in
as someone that
didn't know it last year
and enjoyed the fucking season.
This season
you're doing the same?
I basically
he's caught up
like very quickly
but we still try
and experience it.
They're basically
talking you through it.
It's the fucking
it's the baby steps
in the NFL right?
I basically
tried baby steps
in the NFL also but like also we try? I basically tried baby steps in the NFL.
Also, but like also,
we try not to talk too much just about the NFL
because there's so many brilliant podcasts
that are all like analysis and all.
We try to keep to like,
what mental shit have we done?
So even if you're not following NFL,
it's still a great podcast.
So clean oblivious.
And twice a week,
I do a twitch stream
where I knit
I sit there knitting
and talking shit
and it's twitch.tv
slash kymuggins
and while I'm here
I'm sponsored by
Lakeland CBD
so if you go to
lakelandcbd.co.uk
we were just talking
about them earlier
use the discount code
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and you'll get 20% off
a bunch of selected items
also
for him
my book,
I mean, I guarantee upon saying this,
my agent is going to message me within the next 14 hours
complaining about this.
But the book is delayed because I need to rewrite it.
And the reason I need to rewrite it
is because there was one chapter
on about how much I loved America.
And my opinion on that has changed.
So I'm rewriting the book.
Is that legit?
A hundred percent legit.
There's two other reasons, but that is 80% of the main reason.
You know what it is, right?
We fucking loved America when we were there.
I really did.
Because we were in the good bits. You know what I think? We were in the coasts. You know what it is we fucking loved America I really did because we were
in the good bits
you know what I think
we were in the coasts
you know what I think
and we were in the
blue balls
hold on
I'm just going to
write Pascoe's
next book
America is like
a really attractive
girlfriend
who's hard work
and you're only
going out with her
because she's super hot
and then eventually
when you dump her
she goes
but you had such a smell on your face when we were fucked.
Yeah, because that was awesome.
The rest of it sucked.
Beautiful on the outside, but toxic and cancerous and abusive on the inside.
So when we came and used and abused and made love to America,
we had the best time.
That's why I was so upset.
Because the fact that America's not going to exist
in the next 10 years
really upsets me
because I just cracked America
and I could have
really done with
well I mean
we'll just tour there
until they die
essentially
the plan is to go over there
divide the state
of embarrassment
alright
Ryan
yes
your dad changed his middle name
To the
Eugene McCullen
Right well
Kai your dad describes the wearer
As like an American version of the bill
Oh god Your dad describes the wire as like an American version of the bill
Somebody who's just recently watched the wire
If you don't know the Americans it is terrible if you don't know The Wire, British people, it's like a way better version of The Bill.
It's like a American version of The Bill. The Bill were using camera phones to record it
before there was cameras and phones.
It was the most shaky shit they tried to do.
This room was just like cobblestones.
I'm like,
going.
Yeah, I'll do it.
It was a soap.
Wait, no.
Because I,
my granddad,
my poor dead granddad,
God rest his soul, loved The Bill. Because I know, my granddad, my poor dead granddad, God rest his soul, loved the bell
and I really, really remember that fucking opening theme tune.
Here we go, let's stick it on.
This is for my childhood.
Can I do your next?
Erm...
Oh no.
Hi.
Fucking old school techno.
I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that.
I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that.
I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that.
I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that.
I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that.
I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that.
I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that. I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that. I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that. I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that. I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that. Fucking old school techno.
I love them fucking shit though,
like Casualty and Mad.
Like that,
None of the Concerns,
Soldier, Soldier.
All of the American Circus.
That's what it's like.
Imagine dropping a pill to the belt.
Right, that's enough Daniel
your dad took
his sleeping bag
to the vet
because he thought
it was a snake
that he'd burst out of
errr
Kai
your dad's ass
is grass
and I'm gonna smoke it
DMX for life baby
Kai
when your dad
takes selfies it still looks like he's punching Colin your dad takes selfies
it still looks
like he's
punching
Colin your
dad doesn't
approve of
using cuss words
so when your
mum asked him
to talk dirty
he said he
wanted to
frigger up the
bottom of his
wingle
frigger up the
bottom of his
fucks
Ryan your
dad calls his
heart the
inside clit
and whenever he
hears Jedward
sing he calls it foreplay
Fucking Jedward
Daniel your dad's CV
is just an old drawing of the Flintstones
Daniel your dad's
been diagnosed with Parkinson's but his
Fitbit says he's never been healthier
Guy your dad's breath smells with Parkinson's, but his Fitbit says he's never been healthier.
Kai, your dad's breath smells like your brother's tears.
And I don't want to read into that.
Kai, your granddad through the
generations, your dad, sorry, has passed down
three things. Knowledge, possessions, and
chlamydia.
He passed it down.
I won't.
Kai, whenever the light bulbs
go out in your dad's house
he closes his eyes
to save energy
Kai your dad
brings back
Dead Burst
and press the cat
trying to get some pussy
trying to get some pussy. That gets a bit.
Ban.
Hold on, hold on.
Oh, we should have ended it there.
That was, oh, we've got, yeah.
I need to delete this bit.
No, no.
Just let me.
I've always wanted, like, to have it exactly an hour long.
But what, like, I want to add the intro.
You know, so when I put the intro on, then it's an hour.
So, like, I can't just stop it on an hour.
Like, it has to be.
Anyway, I'll end it now.