Sloss and Humphries On The Road - Mine Weeper

Episode Date: September 17, 2020

Go on then, have an extended dollop of Muggins and Cream with a sprinkling of Ryan Cullen ...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Sloss and Humphries on the road! Muggins and cream, cream and muggins, straight thuggin', livin' the dream That's our intro Fuckin' muggles! Tickling the clit inside your head that makes you laugh Woohoo! Hahaha! They said it can't be done!
Starting point is 00:00:13 Are we in the same seats? That's hack Ah, muggles Accidental rim job in the park Kiss kiss kiss Or am I just being cynical? Just muggled it up on fuckin' Mugglepedia Where have you been since 9-11?
Starting point is 00:00:26 We'll touch on it. Hi, everyone at home. Hello. I'm Kai Humphries. And I am... Why did you... Did you try to take my line? Was your new way of doing the intro
Starting point is 00:00:40 to interrupt my intro so as to Humphries and Humphries on the road podcast? No, no, no, let's try this again. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, my it's the Humphreys and Humphreys on the road podcast. No, no, no, let's try this again. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, my name is Kai Humphreys. And I... You've done it again there, you see? You said your own name. Why didn't you let me finish?
Starting point is 00:00:58 Because you started your second. You're stepping on me, actually. Right, okay. This is why I appreciate Ant and Dick so much. You've not been... I've not been introduced. There's no way you've been introduced. So shut your fucking mouth
Starting point is 00:01:09 and shut up until I'm introduced. Have some goddamn fucking respect for the gays. Wait till we bring you in, Sponge. Shut... Do it! I'm trying to keep putting in. Let me host this podcast. Hello, welcome to the podcast.
Starting point is 00:01:25 I am Kai Humphries and I am now going to pass you over to my friend and introduce himself. I am. I'll get you to knock yourself out. I'll pay you to knock yourself out. Let's finish. I'm Danny Sluts. Let's finish. Finish thing.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Right. Hello, welcome to the podcast. I am Kai Humphries and I am going to let my fellow co-host introduce himself. I am now going to stop talking so he can do that. I'm Danny Sloss. And on my right is... Oh my God, I feel like I'm not supposed to answer. What is happening? It's the worst I'm that's the best what what is happening
Starting point is 00:02:05 it's the worst intro it's the best intro no you're back baby you're never left Ryan Cullen our special guest here's what happened
Starting point is 00:02:14 can I clearly listen to one of your episodes of Clear and Oblivious where you are I've never done that shut up you're not accusing me of that where I did the whole thing
Starting point is 00:02:22 where you are an awful host and he was like you know what I'm a brilliant host and he was like you know what that was a brilliant host and I just did it absolutely was I created content
Starting point is 00:02:28 I am so excited for you to read the comments on this for how bad how long did that shite it two fucking minutes how would this be
Starting point is 00:02:37 imagine today's the day right this podcast is the one where I suddenly decide to be proud of this podcast the one where Sarah Pascoe's listening could this be the one?
Starting point is 00:02:47 Oh, this might be the one she's listening. Hi, Sarah. Why don't you quote me a bit of my match shit? Give me more gold for your book.
Starting point is 00:02:57 I forgot my point. The point is, quality and fro. No, no, no, no. In fact, no, you probably were. Oh, can I do it? Can I do it?
Starting point is 00:03:03 Imagine this was the one week where I decided to be proud of this podcast and if I can promote it online in the open two minutes of you. No, no, when I bring in Daniel's Floss fans to this podcast, for the first 90 seconds, these Colombians, these Americans and these Canadians are listening to some, they assume, and these are my words, these are their thoughts a vagrant disabled man has raised it sat next to Kai
Starting point is 00:03:28 for some reason he's the guest I went with vagrant I don't know why vagrant vagrant it's because you didn't have the confidence
Starting point is 00:03:36 to say disabled because I had a sister that was disabled I'm allowed to say that is the rules of comedy yeah as long as you're close to a tragedy
Starting point is 00:03:45 you get to joke about it and that is literally the rules that's it could I say I wish my sister was disabled wow
Starting point is 00:03:54 she's genuine she's had hip surgery she's fucked that doesn't that's not you know that so where's her badge how good is the parking
Starting point is 00:04:03 come on now yeah alright she's got another one hips are like that hips So where's her badge? How good is the parking? Come on now. Yeah. Aye. She's got another one. Hips only. That makes sense. She's got another hip.
Starting point is 00:04:09 Aye. Do you have two hips? Yes. I mean, I know you do, but surely the hip bone's one thing and it's got two hips on it. It's like a leg shock, isn't it? A hip. Aye, you've got two shoulders.
Starting point is 00:04:18 I'm just... The second I started to explain it to myself... Is that like an ad back in the day? The milk one? Your leg is connected to your hip bone. You know that's not off the ad. The ad used the song. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:29 No, no. That's a common song. It's not a common song. It's from a kids' TV show, is it? It comes from originally, the Greeks sang it originally because they invented medicine. Obviously, it was in Latin. But they sang it in Greek, so it sounded a lot like this.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Go ahead, Daniel. She be babadooba do da cliff top hit the bridge go to the dead and hit the dead cough the bush all that
Starting point is 00:04:51 yeah quote that for a bit I'm Sarah Pascoe do we need is this going is this going to be another Sarah Pascoe grievance episode oh no
Starting point is 00:05:01 or is it going to be an episode where we talk to Ryan Cullen oh god are they the options when Sophie's like it's as if
Starting point is 00:05:09 as if nothing's happened since the last podcast you're bringing up as if I've not just turned 30 as if we've also not just had a fucking festival
Starting point is 00:05:16 who had 4 minutes 50 before he brought up on his birthday last week who had 2 minutes 30 before you brought up Santa Pasco what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:05:27 Anyway, let's introduce our guest. Right, that's it. Ryan Cullen. Well. How are you? I'm great. You know how I am, I love you. Can you just say a few things about yourself?
Starting point is 00:05:40 Well, I like Star Wars now. You just watched Star Wars no you just watched Star Wars I don't I used to I used to I used to hit it
Starting point is 00:05:49 not hit it but I used to get the buzz you used to disparage it in the same way that whenever they got excited
Starting point is 00:05:56 about the trailers I'd watch the reaction videos of like nerds getting excited about the trailers being like
Starting point is 00:06:02 look at these fucking nerds getting excited about Star Wars but then also at the same time getting excited about the trailers being like look at these fucking nerds getting excited about Star Wars but then also at the same time getting excited about the next
Starting point is 00:06:08 fucking Horizon Zero Dawn game yeah I love it when you get the YouTube comments on their like Star Wars trailers and stuff
Starting point is 00:06:15 when somebody thinks they have it worked out and it's like a 10,000 word essay and you read through it and then like a week later
Starting point is 00:06:21 they come out and go nah you were wrong absolutely you were so wrong they tried to guess the entire plot from a week later they come out and go nah you were wrong absolutely you were so wrong they tried to guess the entire plot from a trailer
Starting point is 00:06:28 and they watched the entire movie going I don't think they asked for my opinion JJ's done me again did you look at Star Wars
Starting point is 00:06:38 fandom the way that Mark Nelson looks at us when we play Dungeons and Dragons and Mark Nelson and Bart Simpson
Starting point is 00:06:43 really upset about this. Yeah. Well, now that is an interesting question because you, Colin, have, through living with me, whether you like it or not, been brought in to so many worlds of nerd. I have.
Starting point is 00:06:59 We've hit Marvel and Dungeons and Dragons and just general comic books and stuff like that. Slauson Humphries on the road, just all kinds of like super fandom. Huge universes. Where the main rival is Santa Pascal for some fucking reason. Fucking Emperor. And sometimes Elliot. How did she of my Thanos.
Starting point is 00:07:26 You kept bringing her up. She fucking sells books with calling me racist. Does she sell books or does she sell books? Probably not that many. You know, I've now read the book and we'll use this opportunity
Starting point is 00:07:36 to plug it. What's it called? Plugging a shitty fucking firewood. She's probably on fucking Frankie Bowles New World Order laughing at a rape joke
Starting point is 00:07:45 hold on so Ryan you were brought into not necessarily you weren't nerdy you definitely weren't it was beaten out of us not beaten out of us
Starting point is 00:07:54 I don't think it was beaten out of you I think it was melted out of you it was gently what I did was we started
Starting point is 00:08:01 living together and I wanted to get into Dungeons and Dragons because I met well you and me met Matty Marcia the greatest DM what I did was we started living together and I wanted to get into Dungeons and Dragons because I met well you and me met Matty Marcia the greatest DM
Starting point is 00:08:09 in existence we got to meet all the Critical Role folks and I started watching both of those series and I got so fucking obsessed and obviously what did you say?
Starting point is 00:08:17 what did you just say? what did you just say? he said I think it was Jill Bate the defensive midfielder who played for Arsenal it was just for Kai justSilva who was a defensive midfielder who played for Arsenal.
Starting point is 00:08:26 It was just for Kai and just like the podcast not getting that one. We got into it and obviously it was on our tour about two years ago when we were still living
Starting point is 00:08:37 at our other house, Ryan. And I approached you, Kai and I said I really want to get into Dungeons and Dragons and you're quite easy to convince about things because you're very open-minded and, like me, deep down, a bit of a loser.
Starting point is 00:08:50 Aye, I'm a bit nerdy. Aye. So you were like, you watched one episode of... Like as a kid, like collectible stuff and painted models and all that. I mean, literally. Body paint on them models for the paint reshoots and that. If you want to, I've literally bought paints
Starting point is 00:09:04 for our zombies in the game. Because you know how the zombies are unpainted? Yes. I've literally bought paints for our zombies in the game because you know when the zombies are unpainted I've literally bought paints for them they could do that but I dragged
Starting point is 00:09:11 you I worked double shifts in the factory fires I dragged you into D&D Gareth was obviously fucking keen for it but the problem was
Starting point is 00:09:20 Ryan you and I lived together so it was just like either we're going to do this nerdy thing in a room without you or
Starting point is 00:09:28 get them all involved I don't know I was really against it not against it I was like it'll be fun but I can't let anyone
Starting point is 00:09:37 see it and I feel like talking to a priest first yes man I get that there is like a bit of I don't know if I don't know if
Starting point is 00:09:44 shame is the right word. I think it's all World of Warcraft's fault. Which we also got into. Yes, damn it. Yeah, also, you'd be like, it's World of Warcraft. I got you and Gareth into World of Warcraft when it was re-released for about two weeks.
Starting point is 00:09:59 What I'm learning here is, you basically embrace anything I embrace and I appreciate your photos because, boy, does it make me happier with it myself. It's great, love it. I didn't think I would ever have liked it. It's got to be different the fact that we're pretty creative. We're in a world where we talk for a living
Starting point is 00:10:21 so it's not a really difficult transition to like pull pull funny out of formulaic situations would it be as good with muggles is the formula enough to make it fun with muggles yes yes
Starting point is 00:10:34 you know what yes but maybe not to maybe not to what our standards are it would be fun to play it probably wouldn't be fun to watch like I feel like ours
Starting point is 00:10:42 would have been watchable the one that we've been playing with Tom and Elliot the point of D&D is for not for it to be watchable yeah you're just letting loose
Starting point is 00:10:49 you're not performing you're not entertaining you're just contained we had a because Ryan every time we've played our game of D&D
Starting point is 00:10:57 because it started at the start of lockdown it was all through fucking Zoom meetings and then we eventually had our first ever face to face game it's much better face to face even though the Zoom one actually worked way better through fucking Zoom meetings and then we eventually had our first ever face-to-face game. It's a much better face-to-face.
Starting point is 00:11:07 Even though the Zoom one actually worked way better than I thought it would work. 100%. We got through most of Tomb of Annihilation, about three fucking chapters of it. And what was more embarrassing, not embarrassing, I shouldn't say that.
Starting point is 00:11:19 I should be proud of who I am. My other game, where I DM Kai, Elliot, Steel and Tom Horton, we had to go do it publicly in a board game. Oh, right. There's a bit of rules about that. Hold on. Since you're a guest on this podcast,
Starting point is 00:11:35 allow me to pose this question to you. Would you, having played D&D with me for nine months now, would you ever play it publicly? Oh. And why not okay how many windows are in the
Starting point is 00:11:47 action oh it's it was open window and there are at least three women who were there who couldn't be bothered working for home
Starting point is 00:11:55 so they've chosen this cafe to work in yeah because it's a gaming cafe right and it's got an upstairs I don't think the downstairs is usually used for the gaming
Starting point is 00:12:03 right I think that's more like restaurant bar cafe right and upstairs is where the gaming's happening because it's early in the day they haven't really opened
Starting point is 00:12:10 the top yet so people that were there we were the only ones gaming it wasn't like people were playing Magic the Gatherer or anything like that people were laptops we're doing spreadsheets
Starting point is 00:12:19 for fucking real important shit and meanwhile I'm like you're in Nangalore and Zalketh comes to work would you in that scenario I'd keep telling people to be quiet
Starting point is 00:12:31 just shut the fuck up and I roll the dice I just want to run I'll text it to you I'll text you my move slightly piece of paper oh so this is a secret note No no
Starting point is 00:12:46 No no I do this boldly I just can't And any time somebody Looks over and goes God What are those numbers That percentage
Starting point is 00:12:53 It's just so shy What's our turnover Jimmy They know exactly What we're doing You would have been Interesting to play with Because Elliot
Starting point is 00:13:03 Tom and Kai Had no No care No care And it made it So much better you would have been interested in Blywith because Elliot Tom and Kai had no no care no care and it made it so much better to the point where people were the best
Starting point is 00:13:11 in the whole game with no no they weren't that's Kai's you're not bad when I rolled I rolled a 13 when I needed
Starting point is 00:13:19 more than a 10 and we were stood up it was a death roll without getting too fucking nerdy there was one point where Kai's character had died
Starting point is 00:13:28 well not died become unconscious Elliot's character had become unconscious and Tom's character was left and it was the last opponent left
Starting point is 00:13:35 and Tom was looking to help and he rolled a natural 20 now obviously since you played right you don't know
Starting point is 00:13:42 what a natural 20 is since you're the worst D&D player we'll get to that but all three of them lofts are shit and I wish you could
Starting point is 00:13:51 have seen it from my perspective because the two women who'd been watching us play this game the entire time they laugh took their tops off
Starting point is 00:13:56 they laugh but in the same way that you laugh at a child enjoying bubbles like it was like it was really like oh
Starting point is 00:14:08 I never want to help hang out with these guys but I no no there was no malice they saw raw joy they saw raw joy in a world
Starting point is 00:14:17 that is so cold right now everyone's eating each other alive everyone's just fucking shitting on each other everyone's just
Starting point is 00:14:23 in that world in a board game cafe three men chopped a woman up in a game and beat her and Elliot yes
Starting point is 00:14:33 and I Kai I'm the worst roller no matter what happens I think I feel like I even question
Starting point is 00:14:39 this technique we so for our G&D game I bought this sort of just a bunch of small miniatures
Starting point is 00:14:50 for like crates and things just so when we do play in person there's a little bit of terrain for the characters to play in
Starting point is 00:14:56 and it came with 25 different sets of dice and Colin has gone through all of them I keep going they're all bad luck it's not here it can't be here it must be the. I keep going. They're all bad luck. It's not here. It can't be here.
Starting point is 00:15:07 It must be the dice. I keep going. Anytime, it would always be the first arrow I need to fire and it's just one and I go, it must be the blue. Give me the green dice. Give me the green. Straight one. It's just one I needed too.
Starting point is 00:15:23 It's always the funniest thing. I'm going to use my super duper exploding arrow on my first goal. it's just when I needed to aye it's always it's always the funniest thing he goes I'm going to use my super duper exploding arrow on my first goal natural 1 ok
Starting point is 00:15:30 and then I'm just going to use a stick I found on a tree for my second goal natural 20 I fucking hate this game every single time
Starting point is 00:15:39 we'll move on from D&D stuff but if people enjoy this for the love of God, watch either Critical Role Season 1 or 2 online or also listen to Dragon Friends with Michael Hing, which is also superb.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Also, I'm part of a Twitch one called Roll and Slice. Roll and Slice. Let's also plug the future. In the future, we'll probably... To be fair to you, you can't plug the past. It's like nobody... Every time we've ever plugged, we've only plugged the future... To be fair to me, you can't plug the past. It's like nobody... Every time we've ever plugged, we've only plugged the future.
Starting point is 00:16:09 But I mean, you can't plug the past, but please download my 2007 intro on my website. Oh, I stand corrected. Count down, Marty McFly. No, trust me, he would not fuck his own mum. None of us would fuck his own mum none of us would fuck his mum wow
Starting point is 00:16:26 Linda it's deeply uncomfortable when you watch that film nowadays no idea because incest was so cool
Starting point is 00:16:33 back when you were 12 you were like just say that sarcastically as a joke but it wasn't thrown upon
Starting point is 00:16:39 man I guarantee the people the boomers that lived through the fucking 60s 70s 80s they were like things were way better
Starting point is 00:16:46 back in our days you go everyone was raped by priests and none of you knew it because you didn't have the internet every single one of you
Starting point is 00:16:53 was molested by a priest and none of you could talk about it because you didn't have the internet so it wasn't women belonged in the kitchen kids would speak
Starting point is 00:17:02 when they're spoken to the fucking teacher would hit a child with a stick. Oh, no, no, no. Not for clubs. Blokes are going, blokes are going. It was way better back then. And they're like, hey, I'm for you.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Right, right, right. They didn't hit kids. They hit disabled kids. There'd be a kid in class who was dyslexic, but back then, we didn't have a word for dyslexic. We only had the word stupid. So people in my granddad generation would meet someone who for dyslexic. We only had the word stupid. So people in my granddad generation would meet someone who was dyslexic or did cerebral palsy and be like,
Starting point is 00:17:29 well, they're just not learning fast enough. Whip, whip, whip, whip, whip. And these are the same people like, fucking the 50s. Yeah. Oh, my. Bring back me old days. Aye.
Starting point is 00:17:39 I was at Dylan Warren, had that joke about, he's like, oh, you know, he's chatting to his granddad and his granddad's like, oh, you know, back in my day. And he's like, oh, you know, he's chatting to his granddad and his granddad's like, oh, you know, back in my day. And he's like, well, we're back in your day.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Would you have slavery? The kids can't do the mining and that, coming back with a shilling. Just, by the way, anyone that brags about the old days, just remind them that America,
Starting point is 00:17:57 America did not become an actual, legitimate, full democracy until about 1967. Because before the World Wars, America didn't allow the blacks to vote legitimate full democracy until about 1967 because before the world wars americans didn't
Starting point is 00:18:07 allow the blacks to vote at any point so it was just it it every man every man
Starting point is 00:18:15 is equal as written in the constitution every man i watched selma we watched selma recently we did
Starting point is 00:18:20 selma was good selma and louise that was just straight up dumb We did, Selma was good. Selma and Louise. That was just straight up dumb. When you started going like, I'm going to plug the future, I thought you were going to plug the new PlayStation. That's where I thought you were going with it. No, well actually that might play a part in it. Because when I move up to Glasgow and when you get your fucking 5G master or whatever fucking witchcraft you're getting done to get your 5G
Starting point is 00:18:45 your data we're going to when I get a valid internet connection yes so we're going to have a studio where we can do
Starting point is 00:18:52 the podcast and we can stream it visually I'm literally getting a studio built just now just for my work
Starting point is 00:19:01 and for book and stuff but it's going to be turned into a podcast studio, which we'll use for this, which Ryan and Gareth will use for Clear and Oblivious. And you guys are going to do a FIFA campaign on Twitch. And we'll be doing our own Twitch.
Starting point is 00:19:15 We've been working out ways we can play board games with various camera angles, so that we can play the board games on Twitch. We want to do Zombicide on Twitch. What a game. What a game that is. This is another thing see Kyle
Starting point is 00:19:26 I never did but I never did board games outside of Monopoly and Scrabble you know how you know how there's those
Starting point is 00:19:32 old high school American movies where they take like the really really ugly girl and turn her into like the prom queen like I did with Natalie
Starting point is 00:19:40 don't get me wrong it definitely happened within your Natalie me wrong it definitely happened within your Natalie's relationship it definitely took place within your thanks man
Starting point is 00:19:50 you think I'm looking good compared to what you are yes a hundred percent compared to what you used to look like compared to me not a chance
Starting point is 00:20:00 but compared to what you used to be you think me block white tracksuit should be bleached blonde hair or something like I look like a fucking young Tim Westwood well I wouldn't mind being blonde I'm getting fucking But compared to what you used to be You think me block white tracksuits and me bleach blonde hair was a thing like
Starting point is 00:20:05 I look like a fucking young Tim Westwood Well I wouldn't mind being blonde and I'm getting fucking Grey Aye Getting old ain't ya You hit 13 and you hit it hard that day Boom No I had to like
Starting point is 00:20:17 Cara kept she was like you're getting grey hairs and I'm like Just pick them out of your teeth and keep going And she was like no she was like you're getting grey hairs and I'm like Those are bleach blonde and she'm like, just pick them out of your teeth and keep going. No, she's like, you're getting grey hairs. I'm like, those are bleach blonde. And she's like, you just asked them to bleach that bit. There's a shot on the side, like a little finger in it. Aye, but I feel so, like, genuinely, the first, when she pointed out that I had grey hair,
Starting point is 00:20:40 the reason I was sad wasn't because I was going grey, but it was this sort of shape of like, Oh you're stressed are you? And then, oh you've had a hard life, you live in this house, you get to tour the world and at the age of 30 you're going grey you fucking poof. Like you're just so... Only my grey hairs fellas. Fuck that's a lot of grey hair. That's a lot of grey That's a lot of grey Callum
Starting point is 00:21:07 Callum When you get grey hair What happens is The grey hair props out And then it falls out And then it grows into a worm And then it grows into a Grows into a slug
Starting point is 00:21:15 And then it grows into another cullen And then kills the old cullen I had that said That's how I get one You're like a more biological version Of the movie Prestige It's less about the machine That David Bowie built But more just You're like a more biological version of the movie Prestige. It's less about the machine that David Bowie built, but more just your strands of hair.
Starting point is 00:21:28 For any Christopher Nolan fans, feel free to DM me about how excellent that reference was. Did you know Christopher Nolan directed Flobber? You went for it, Christopher? I spent a second. Because I'm a huge Christopher Nolan fan, I had to back. Imagine he just went does It's just something
Starting point is 00:21:45 that would be quite funny like from like Flubber to Interstellar So what's it called here Rough Summer God Flubber was one of those
Starting point is 00:21:55 I could barely remember No but I wouldn't go back and revisit because I I did it's alright You revisited Flubber You didn't say he did it He says I
Starting point is 00:22:04 Sorry I thought I would revisit I did You revisited Flubber? You didn't say he did it. No, sorry I thought I'd said it. You revisited Flubber? A couple of times, aye. He didn't even say it. I'm gonna wind up. In fact, quiz me, I missed a fandom on Flubber. Okay, what's Robin Williams' character called?
Starting point is 00:22:20 Robin Williams, isn't it? Dude, his character's called Flubber. No, Flubber's the thing he invents. It's not the thing he invents. It's the first friends we met along the way. Fuck off. Right, any more questions on Flubber before we close that time out? What colour was Flubber?
Starting point is 00:22:40 Like a kind of turquoise. Do you not know that in green that's the turquoise is green you're thinking of interstellar again right we've lost our way
Starting point is 00:22:51 somewhere so plug in the future and I'll quickly get this out of the way we're going to do loads of different like the podcast is going to get
Starting point is 00:22:57 running up and running properly video levels no no no none of these are promises these are hopes no These are hopes. No, they're not promises.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I'll make them happen. When I'm up here, come on. Look, I'm building a studio so we can do these podcasts. I had you do
Starting point is 00:23:15 18 weeks of fucking podcasts remotely from when I was in London. We're going to be on a date when you've got a studio and a connection. Yes, yes. No, no, sorry.
Starting point is 00:23:27 I wasn't questioning the commitment to that. It was the fact that you're like, and we're going to do this and we're going to do that. I'm like, don't ever put deadlines in my diary. Not fair. Not fair, what? What's the internet? Now, living in the past, living in the past, you've just had your birthday weekend. I did. It was a bit of a sesh.
Starting point is 00:23:45 It was a barbaric sesh. It's now Wednesday and I'm still a bit sad. It's a Wednesday? It's still Wednesday, mate. Thank God. Do you think that's your first thing now in 30? Everything lasts longer? Oh, man, I hope not.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I don't know. Because you've also recently turned 30. I think it's a mindset as soon as and you know because it's like when you know when you go like
Starting point is 00:24:08 from the two to the three nobody cares about age I don't really care about age I don't even think I know I've seen them girls you fuck old bitches
Starting point is 00:24:16 old decrepit cryptonics I just noticed the way that people just think you're going you're like well that's you
Starting point is 00:24:23 fuck now it's never in England they said you you go uh you bang your toe on like a thing they're like you'll be like oh and he goes that's how it starts and then your fucking leg will go gangly it'll fall off and you're like jesus christ everything's a horror story you sneeze and they're like starts off as a sneeze and ends up with two dead kids. What disease? You know, I just, I drunk drove. I had to adjust and that's why they're dead. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:24:48 so it's a bounce back ability that you start losing. Like, it used to be at much less of a cost for us to sesh. Right. But this week,
Starting point is 00:24:56 I've been like, I've been full on just moping around since the party finished. Like, when am I going to get my spirit back? Is my soul going to re-enter my body or is this how I live now in just a state of numb? Right. Like, when am I going to get my spirit back? Is my soul going to re-enter
Starting point is 00:25:05 my body or is this how I live now in just a state of no? Aye. Well, see, that's where and allow me to be vegan
Starting point is 00:25:12 for the next two minutes. That's where meditation's really important, Kai, because on those days when you're having the shit days, meditation doesn't make
Starting point is 00:25:21 the shit days any better, but it makes you take a step back and be able to have the tools to process the shit days any better but it makes you take a step back and be able to have the tools to process the shit acknowledge what's happening acknowledge what's happening accept what's happening that said um when i realized that i was in a fucking state of disrepair i started taking uh being proactive about it i started my course of cbd which i got from lakeland cbd i started that the night before last. I've got to give it away a little while before it starts activating my endocannabinoid.
Starting point is 00:25:48 Can you remind me of the, because we were down doing our Whitchurch Stourbridge gigs. Yes, it was the first one, Whitchurch, where you met Nicola from Lakeland CBD. Because I've tried CBD before, because I'm a huge, huge fucking stone. All the CBD doses I've ever taken have been... So she told me a little bit about it. It activates then the cannabinoids in your body. So it's actually you that's healing yourself. I'm trying to say medicine, but it's not.
Starting point is 00:26:16 The CBD, it helps you help yourself. So that takes a couple of weeks before that will start coming into fruition. It's not just like a fucking it's not like a prescription drug that you pop
Starting point is 00:26:28 and you just get fucking high off it straight away I told Milo what it was and he was like ooh can I have one and I went
Starting point is 00:26:33 it would do literally fuck all like you need to have recourse to them and stay on them and let it do its time I started two days ago and the reason
Starting point is 00:26:40 I didn't start is because I didn't want to be taking this alongside a session I was about to go on so I've had it for a week but I was like I didn't want to be taking this alongside a session I was about to go on. So I've had it for a week. But I was like, I don't want to put this alongside cocaine and fucking alcohol and all that, right?
Starting point is 00:26:52 So I thought I'll wait until I come out the other side of it. I like how you opened with cocaine but started with alcohol. You're like loads of cocaine and heroin. And then also a couple of Smirnoff ice. There's sugar in it. I'll be honest with you Kai I feel like you whispered the wrong bit
Starting point is 00:27:09 I'll tell you what guys I'm about I'll tell you what guys I'm about to have sex with a really beautiful girl and she's 15 years old oh no no I've done it
Starting point is 00:27:20 no have you noticed any difference little CV from two days but also also I've done it no have you noticed any difference little CBD from two days in but also also if I was to answer that I'd be like
Starting point is 00:27:32 yes I have noticed a difference I feel a lot better today than I felt yesterday but that was because I'm on less of a condom
Starting point is 00:27:37 right but this should start running its course because I was saying like my problem is like I struggle
Starting point is 00:27:44 to get out of bed in the morning like I've got no get up and go and so she gives a particular dosage told us to take it just before my head
Starting point is 00:27:50 hits the pillow and that should help us out in the future so I'll be able to tell you if I'm bouncing out of bed again genuinely interested in that because I've now
Starting point is 00:27:57 after my 30th birthday chosen to take a week a week off a month off of weed you can tell how much it's on my mind yeah and I've always
Starting point is 00:28:07 been interested in the CBD stuff because the reason I know I smoke a lot of weed sometimes is because it's for my anxiety it's because
Starting point is 00:28:13 it's just things that and that's the medicinal bit they've just bred the strands so that it breathes out the THC and breathes up the CBD
Starting point is 00:28:19 and when you're smoking it for medicinal reasons you're smoking it for the CBD the THC just happens to get you high at the same time I know but as much reasons you're smoking it for the CBD the THC just happens to get you high at the same time
Starting point is 00:28:26 I know but as much as I'm very excited about the CBD side of things but I do you like being high man
Starting point is 00:28:32 me and Colin and I know we talk about this but is there just better kissers when you've had it more sensitive more open minded
Starting point is 00:28:40 more well more truthy which is the pain that's why we have to go further so on top of that I started that
Starting point is 00:28:50 two days ago and today I signed up with Sam Harris and I paid the upfront for it because he's basically
Starting point is 00:28:58 got a full refund policy in fact he says if you haven't got the money to put up front get in touch mental health shouldn't be he's waking up a meditation app if you can't got the money to put up front, get in touch. Mental health shouldn't be...
Starting point is 00:29:05 He's waking up a meditation app. If you can't afford it, you can literally just email them and go, give me a free subscription. And zero questions asked. There's no reply email. There's no show as your credentials. If you go, can't afford it,
Starting point is 00:29:17 they'll go, here's your free subscription to this fucking meditation. Free refund with no excuses needed. So you could actually fucking run the course and do a refund if you're a dickhead but I believe the meditation hasn't worked
Starting point is 00:29:28 if you're going to pull that kind of stunt aye so do it and get money back but I basically thought if I pay for it now right
Starting point is 00:29:36 and then I find I've like two weeks have passed and I've used it twice and then I'm like not likely to use it in the future I'll just fucking cash in that refund
Starting point is 00:29:43 so like I'm just putting it up front thinking I mean I'll try and stick to it so I'm going to try and run the meditation the same day
Starting point is 00:29:50 alongside each other and just see if like stacking them do you have to take it before bed is that what you're trying to say Natalie suggested
Starting point is 00:29:59 that she could struggle switching off after work and her head's spinning and she kind of just enjoyed the movie because she was thinking about working out of pain just all them Al-Qaeda plans after work and her head's spinning and she kind of just enjoyed the movie because she was thinking about working out of pay
Starting point is 00:30:07 just all them Al-Qaeda plans going off in her head oh there we go Pascoe's book that's how it starts fuck me cow
Starting point is 00:30:15 I'm sorry fucking nod Natalie got proper pissed off for being apologetic for not mugging us off like that did she Natalie got proper pissed off for being apologetic for not mugging us off like that Did she
Starting point is 00:30:26 Natalie got proper pissed off She can't be racist in her book man Aye yes and I disagree with what Sarah said I disagree with that aspect of it
Starting point is 00:30:36 Of course I know you're not racist You married one of them That's the thing with you Did you marry a racist I just figured out Aye
Starting point is 00:30:44 You should be able What I'm saying't I'm sticking out you should be able what I'm saying what I'm saying is we should be able to have this laugh that we're having now with everybody involved and no one getting hurt
Starting point is 00:30:52 without getting quoted for a bit absolutely absolutely but okay let me just remember a point my main point
Starting point is 00:30:58 was always I don't think you should have ever told that story on any podcast ever it wasn't my story I don't think no no
Starting point is 00:31:06 I popped a few punchlines in a story that was being told aye yeah and you should have shut it down you should have gone this isn't a story
Starting point is 00:31:12 that blogs in a podcast this isn't a good story this isn't a fun story there's no this is the fact that you allowed the story to happen is why you suffered
Starting point is 00:31:21 the consequences this is where the problem is with society you wanted to silence that story the story should have never happened Elliot shouldn't have
Starting point is 00:31:27 done the thing I but I was asleep so I couldn't stop him doing the thing and there wasn't the podcast so I couldn't stop
Starting point is 00:31:34 him telling the story look I would if you feel like to say this site I apologise but I also know I'm just making it a bit now
Starting point is 00:31:43 Natalie's the one that's fucking infuriated by it sorry let me just face it I wasn't actually apologising to you I was apologising to Natalie the thing that she was asked to do is take it's a smaller dosage and take it after
Starting point is 00:31:58 she finishes work so you speak to them, speak to the guys and just say this is where I'm at I think it's going to be way more effective for people who actually have like super anxiety or bipolar or borderline personality disorder or even more physical stuff like arthritis. I think it's going to be way more of an impact on their lives than it will be on me and Natalie who are like, oh, I struggle to get up in the morning or my brain doesn't switch off
Starting point is 00:32:23 from work. Like, that's just actually on the scheme of things, you know like I struggle to get up in the morning or my brain doesn't switch off from work like that's just actually on the scheme of things you know I forget to say like what my mental health issues are that's very low
Starting point is 00:32:29 on the scale but I think it is something that's just going to help us try and tackle I mean here's again this is me
Starting point is 00:32:38 being a vegan hippie don't compare your mental health to anyone's mental health because that within itself creates a problem with your own fucking mental health. It's a good thing to do regardless.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Like, it's... I think it's a positive thing to go for. Because you and me smoke a unre... What? Right, you didn't smoke weed until... Recent. Until when? your fault yeah
Starting point is 00:33:06 yeah no I did not... fault suggests... bad blame yeah you've never smoked weed before because... because I don't take it because of the... I like asthma and shit like that so you got asthma? you got a little bitch lungs?
Starting point is 00:33:21 middle of the list alright little eh... I was going to say little bagged lungs fist packets, small fist packets, watsit packets bitch lungs little I was going to say little bagged lungs but little bags small little watsit packets watsit packets little bags are actually
Starting point is 00:33:29 very good but it's good it helps your anxiety and stuff but I don't know what the CBD stuff does it's that
Starting point is 00:33:36 it's that it's that that helps your anxiety so apparently you know how you and me love fucking weed and whenever we
Starting point is 00:33:43 get stressed about shit we all apparently the bit we're after there is apparently CBD and they've You know how you and me love fucking weed, and whenever we get stressed about shit, we all go, wait, apparently the bit we're after there is apparently CBD. Nah. And they've managed to isolate.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Make it on site, right? But unfortunately, it's not an instant effect sort of thing. Like it's... Well, I mean, we'll see. We'll see. Well, are we using catties like in a guinea pig? 100%.
Starting point is 00:34:00 If there's anyone you send down the coal mines, it's somebody that comes from the lineage of people that belong in coal mines. If there's anyone that is going to be the Canadian this, it's the fucking Joe.
Starting point is 00:34:14 The show of coal mines. I clapped and I shouldn't have. I should not have. You gave him way more. So the meditation, I had a little shot of that. I instantly wanted to go back in
Starting point is 00:34:26 I should have stayed there for a bit because I finished one and they're clearly just bleeding it in just kind of like didn't give them something too heavy
Starting point is 00:34:32 so the chat was for a bit and it was funny that listen to when he was saying acknowledge your breathing right and I'm acknowledging
Starting point is 00:34:42 my breathing and he interrupted some thoughts and he just said look I've probably interrupted some thoughts right now which'm acknowledging my breathing and he interrupted some thoughts and he just said look I've probably interrupted some thoughts right now which he had
Starting point is 00:34:47 he called it he's like that'll happen don't judge yourself because judgment is your thoughts and that too needs to pass
Starting point is 00:34:53 right so he's giving it all this right and he's going so every time you feel them just let them pass and then concentrate
Starting point is 00:34:59 on your breathing and then look past your breathing and acknowledge other sensory things that you're feeling and something I didn't even know I was feeling
Starting point is 00:35:05 was coke snots dripping down the back of my throat. Now what? I'm going to think about all these things really fast and really effectively. Sam, Sam, I need you to tell me how many times it's perfect for me to breathe within the next 30 seconds because I'll fucking triple it, buddy. listen sam listen i've got this idea you see this meditation we need to
Starting point is 00:35:33 make an app i love you know the best thing is you use like a different app to you right and you use headspace no not the headspace i use the cam app it's just called right and it's uh but the funniest thing is, you know, like, you're going through all these different, like, meditations and stuff, right? But the funniest thing is
Starting point is 00:35:50 you can choose, like, who says it. There's a couple of voices on each. What, like sat-navs? Nah. Like, who's the chief? I'm pretty much a fool
Starting point is 00:35:59 who doesn't concentrate on his children. Don't I find it? Come to the depression side breathe out Jesus
Starting point is 00:36:09 yeah Darth Vader talking to you breathe in fuck this is difficult and breathe out
Starting point is 00:36:17 I ain't breaking no plane but I love the fact that there's all different people from different
Starting point is 00:36:24 around the world but anytime an English person comes on I go No, that's it Another few lessons to not get angry I'm sorry, I'm sorry Do you think this accent's relaxing? Johnny, hello, hello
Starting point is 00:36:36 I'd like you to breathe through your nose Oh fuck, they're back Breathe through your nose, put your hands behind your head And walk against the wall I think it'd be worse. Not this again. It'd be worse if someone with my accent came on because I'd be like, I think I know this guy. You're a cunt.
Starting point is 00:36:51 Fucking breathe through your fucking nose and I fucking swear to fucking God, if I see a fucking negative thought in your fucking brain, I'll kill your dog. It's just threatening. Like, I feel much better. See, now this is an interesting thing. it's just threatening like I feel much better see you know this is an interesting thing god I never thought
Starting point is 00:37:07 this podcast would ever turn into this but it came from a conversation I had with Sopit I like the waking up app because Sam Harris
Starting point is 00:37:15 does meditation in what I describe in a Milo McCabe free way there's nothing hippie about Sam Harris's meditation it's just
Starting point is 00:37:23 this is teaching you how your brain works, how your own psychology in your brain works, and how to analyze your own thoughts. I know they were like your Shakiras and that. Oh, you've got to get your seven Shakiras lined, and you've got to make sure there's two in your hips so that they can't lie, and they've got to line up in the middle, because otherwise, fucking, who's the Barcelona defender?
Starting point is 00:37:42 What shag you? Pique. Pique, there he is. You need to piqueique you can't Pique your head rest or I pawn that bad a pawn no
Starting point is 00:37:54 but you know he would have loved it he would have I guaranteed he laughed out loud and applauded if he
Starting point is 00:38:01 listened who was it about Pique you were talking about there's nothing hocus pocus there's no energy leaving you laughed out loud and applauded if he listened what was it about PK you were talking about there's nothing focus focus there's no energy leaving you
Starting point is 00:38:09 for your trips and all that shit but I'm talking to talking to Sopha our friend who did I think about even though
Starting point is 00:38:17 there was only like two wars in Iraq I think he did 24 tours yeah Afghanistan as well like I think he was in the past that happened in-Kaiba Pass. That happened in the 1800s.
Starting point is 00:38:28 He's the share of Afghanistan. I think Sophe was involved in the Crusades at one point. I think he was going through with a claymore. Because if he wasn't going through a claymore, I don't know where he got that claymore from. Is that what Florence and the Machine is to Glastonbury? It's the piers on every single piano. That's the headline act. But Sopho was talking about meditation. He was going to do it and he used his headspace.
Starting point is 00:38:50 And it was very interesting because Sopho was saying what he needed from meditation was to learn empathy. What his headspace meditation was teaching him to see things from other people's perspective, to understand their points of view, which is something I don't fucking struggle with. I'd never realised that people got different things from other people's perspective to understand their points of view which is something I don't fucking struggle with. I never realised that people got different things from meditation because for me it was understanding my own brain
Starting point is 00:39:10 that's why I'm interested in asking you with the Calm app, what is it that you're using it for and does it help and help? It does, I got like just... You have anger issues I do I've started getting therapy and stuff like that
Starting point is 00:39:24 You made the right choice This is much better I do I do I've got I've started getting therapy and stuff like that yeah good and I was doing you made the right choices and this is much better thank fuck I was going to
Starting point is 00:39:31 start a GoFundMe for that Colin very bravely and proudly started going to therapy about a month
Starting point is 00:39:41 after well yeah that was a change a change to one here. You and me started going to therapy around about the same time because we both realised...
Starting point is 00:39:49 Come on, start at me. Well, I got a local guy at the start of lockdown. Oh, in Edinburgh? Oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:39:59 and how was it? Oh, I was with him. Good fact, doesn't find me funny. Oh, you're trying to make that a pisser job. I went, he's not helping me out, I got any. I was with him. Good crack. Doesn't find me funny. Oh, you're talking about a pisser, y'all. He's not helping you out, I get any.
Starting point is 00:40:09 And I went, oh, that was decent. He's just like, basically, he's not even going ticket serious. He's just genuine. He's just like, yeah, cool. How old is he? I don't know. He's in his 50s. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:21 And does he find you amusing at all? I don't think so. He's just very good and professional is he right he doesn't even enjoy you as a concept because as a concept you're really full as a concept
Starting point is 00:40:30 but is it like is he like an English teacher to you or is it how does he speak to you because my therapist is Dutch
Starting point is 00:40:40 and I love my therapist because my therapist gets excited whenever I swear because legally he's allowed the permission to swear then. Aye. Not legally, ethically. He's like, so I'm going to quote you here.
Starting point is 00:40:53 You are so fucking mad. And his face lights up because he can't believe he can swear. So you're telling your therapist you're a mad cunt? I've got a mad name. He's like, okay, you're mad. No, no, no. What happens is I go to a mad name he's like okay you're mad no no no what happens is I go to my therapist
Starting point is 00:41:06 I'm like here's something entirely irrational that I lost my mind about today he's like alright okay so somebody parking slightly over the line at Sainsbury's
Starting point is 00:41:15 made you want to write a 4,000 word essay describing exactly how you wanted them to kill themselves let's discuss that let's unpack that. When we were fucked up on your birthday celebrations,
Starting point is 00:41:29 I had a conversation with Cullen here about how he's too different people to me, right? He's the fucking funny, quippy, charming lad that we've got sat next to now. And he's this fucking lad in the football WhatsApp who's just a completely different person and pissing everybody off. Because he plays out to the character. Oh, but so well. It's like's just a completely different person and pissing everybody off because he plays up to the character
Starting point is 00:41:45 oh but so well it's like it's a completely different guy like even when I'm sat next to him on the couch and I'm in the WhatsApp it's almost like
Starting point is 00:41:53 his WhatsApp messages aren't as harsh as they appear because I can see him he's there laughing and that's why
Starting point is 00:41:59 having been in the group that's why I know Cullen's breakdowns in the group are never as big as everyone acts like they are because everyone in the group is like Cullen you'res in the group are never as big as everyone acts like they are. Because Cullen, you're usually mine and I'm sat on the couch just looking over at Cullen being like, I mean he seems fucking...
Starting point is 00:42:12 So you thoroughly misrepresent yourself, right? You do, you're your own worst cheerleader. You thoroughly, thoroughly misrepresent yourself. It's like, you know how some people are sound when you meet them, but their Facebook is just like a fucking car crash. And you're like, oh, which one's the real them? You're like, is it Ryan that I know, or is it Ryan talking about Ryan Frazier? He's the worst of the Ryans. So I asked you, when we were having this conversation,
Starting point is 00:42:41 I said, yeah, how many times have you mentioned Aubameyang, which is, for people that don't know Arsenal's star striker Ryan's team, how many times have you mentioned Aubameyang and he went I remember this one time I told him and I was telling him about this conversation I had where I lost my mind and all that and then he said you've got to do this and I was like
Starting point is 00:42:57 hold on, did you employ a therapist to coach you through your WhatsApp chat? Just tell me how many goals you scored this week. You've got a corner, man. Every time I'm having a conversation with you with a WhatsApp move, I'm thinking of him just holding the towel going, I've got to throw this in in a minute.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Oh, I'm sorry. Do you think a therapist is a teammate? That's what he is. That's what the conversation was. That's what I was laughing at. Is that he fucking went and went, oh man, I'm losing this jewel in the WhatsApp
Starting point is 00:43:26 so what does your therapist is it mainly anger or is it oh there's a lot of stuff I don't want to talk about but he basically it's a it does work
Starting point is 00:43:39 it does work it does work it really does I would if you can afford it and you know I find affordable stuff there's ways of getting around it
Starting point is 00:43:47 but you have to fucking fairly look but okay so literally what are those ways because basically I was trying through the NHS and stuff
Starting point is 00:43:54 because I wanted to get one basically like close here you know what I mean so I was changing around trying on NHS yeah that's a bit of a
Starting point is 00:44:00 like a witness and everything as great as it is and it's not great in Scotland compared to it is in England Because because the NHS is being stretched thing because of the Tory fucking government you fucking retards I use a website called I think it's Harley Reid therapy and they just give you basically
Starting point is 00:44:17 People that are nearby and you just pay there's a set fees up there like and some of them are all different prices and you can Thank you. And you find that's work for you I did yeah I read her as Harley Reid it's basically a thing but like that it's just a thing where it is it can be affordable at least okay all right it's such a shame it's like it kind of like it seems to be a middle-class luxury like or just middle class calling but like it does but you've you've been around middle class people
Starting point is 00:44:47 that have suggested it and you've got their like I feel like I know a lot of working class people that would like it's not fashionable for them
Starting point is 00:44:54 or affordable for them and I feel like there's so many people I know that could deal with it man here's the thing literally every person in the world
Starting point is 00:45:02 should be in fucking therapy every single one I'd like to give it a pop I'd like to give it a shot like the fact literally every person in the world should be in fucking therapy every single one of them I'd like to give it a pop I'd like to give it a shot like the fact that every therapist I know goes to therapy as well because they know
Starting point is 00:45:12 how important it is and also their their shoulder and a lot of fucking stuff that they've got to just swallow up but yeah they understand
Starting point is 00:45:19 they're watching car crash after car crash on a daily basis that's fucking hard and they know how much that affects your psyche. So I constantly say this to Garrett, because between how I was feeling last fucking November
Starting point is 00:45:32 and how I'm fucking feeling now is so different. And it is fucking thanks to therapy. And I get to go to therapy because I'm rich. I'm successful. And I get this. And it makes my life so much fucking easier. And it's a genuine fucking disgrace that I get that about other people. It doesn't mean I feel fucking...
Starting point is 00:45:52 It shouldn't be a luxury. It shouldn't be a fucking luxury. It should not be a fucking luxury. It should be almost compulsory. You have to sign a waiver to get out of it kind of thing. It should be good. Because if everyone was in therapy, I promise you the world wouldn't be the way it is the reason the world
Starting point is 00:46:05 is the way it is because people aren't dealing with their own problems they're putting them out there in the fucking world like you said
Starting point is 00:46:11 then you worry and you get scared and when you get scared you panic and when you panic you yell and you start fucking crying
Starting point is 00:46:16 and you lash out and that's what it is and regardless what side you're on whether it be left or right that's what fucking happens
Starting point is 00:46:21 everyone should be in fucking therapy me and Natalie were saying that if we decide to have children we'd should be in fucking therapy me and Natalie were saying that if we decide to have children we'd like to go into therapy first just to make sure
Starting point is 00:46:29 that we're not like downloading any shitty software like is there anything that like I need to iron out just things that I haven't noticed
Starting point is 00:46:35 because I haven't identified anything of myself that I need to take to therapy I haven't spotted that which is why I haven't been proactive
Starting point is 00:46:41 about doing it but like it's a bit more important if I'm going to have a kid it's like oh is there any shitty stuff that proactive about doing it. But, like, it's a bit more important if I'm going to have a kid. It's like, oh, is there any shitty stuff that I'm doing that needs figuring out before... Why do you... OK, I just find that I agree with you in a sense,
Starting point is 00:46:55 but why does your responsibility go to your kid and not to yourself? Surely, if your kid would benefit from your therapy, how would you not benefit from your therapy? Not benefit with hiring that out. I don't know. It's more just like a fucking... It's a fear. Handing it on.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Think like, I don't mind being responsible for myself. I'm still kind of happy, you know. So this is what I think the biggest mis... The reason people don't go to therapy. People go, I can handle it myself. I go, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy. Most of us... What would my conversation be then? You know, like if I went to a therapist. Because I've never been, so I go, buddy, buddy, buddy, buddy. Man, most of us... What would my conversation be then, you know?
Starting point is 00:47:26 Like, if I went to a therapist, because I've never been, so I don't know what it's like, right? What would my conversation be? Because when I just walk in and go, like, I'd feel like, man, sorry, mate, there's somebody, probably people that, there's probably a queue of people that need it.
Starting point is 00:47:36 No, no, no. Like, I'm just going to complain about other people for a bit. Like, in their behavior. Is that all right? Aye. And because you're paying them money they don't give a shit
Starting point is 00:47:46 what you talk to them about they'll sit there and listen but he is like the first in fact I'll pose this question
Starting point is 00:47:52 to you right first question do you think your therapy sorry how long have you been in therapy now well this guy
Starting point is 00:48:00 since he started locked in he's gone through them how many have I've done it I've done it before you had one before had before no no no I also think
Starting point is 00:48:07 it's important to switch no I think it's important to switch if you have a therapist that doesn't agree with you
Starting point is 00:48:14 he's like you're male you're like I'll find a new one I need a yes man get a yes man in here
Starting point is 00:48:19 but I think it's more important just to get someone for some reason I feel better if you get someone nearby
Starting point is 00:48:24 someone I don't even understand it doesn't make sense I think everything got more important just to get someone first. For some reason, I feel better if you get someone nearby. I don't even understand. It doesn't make sense. I think everything got obviously a little bit worse always with lockdown. Everybody's just sitting on their thoughts for months, essentially. It's that boring. Stewing. Stewing.
Starting point is 00:48:36 So everything does get heightened. But it does. It does. It does. But at what point or was there a point where you felt the therapy started working? Because for me, the first five sessions I had my therapist felt like a real big waste of time. Did you? Man.
Starting point is 00:48:57 I wouldn't, like, that first one was suck. Yeah. Man, it was, literally, I walked in there and I just told him, I'd emailed him before, and I was just like, look, I don't like who I've become after this tour I don't like how I'm reacting with all these fucking things I want to sort myself out and I went to a session with him and I just told him
Starting point is 00:49:11 everything I was feeling and literally at the end of the session he was like okay and I'm like what the fuck do you mean okay like what do you like
Starting point is 00:49:19 fucking fix it and I go and the next time he's like how do you feel and I'm like well you're still annoyed about all these things
Starting point is 00:49:24 and he's all these other things and he goes okay you know how does that make you feel get it off your chest was actually what you need to do oh but you don't fucking realize it because he here's what therapy is right it's all a therapist does is just let you keep talking and he and your therapist never tells you anything about yourself your therapist goes what's in this room and you go two couches and a dartboard and they go what else is in this room and you go oh i mean if you're going to be specific there's two dartboards uh yeah sorry there's two couches a dartboard a simpsons poster and a cupboard and he goes
Starting point is 00:49:56 look in the room again and you go all right my dead sister's in there yeah right let's talk about that then there's a locked door. What's behind that? No one knows. You are never going to be, you are never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever going to be your most open and vulnerable in your first session with your therapist. You never are.
Starting point is 00:50:14 You're not going to be that. Man, it took until my fucking granddad died until I text my therapist being like, I'm having a really fucking rough day. And I paid the man £65 to cry on Skype to him for 45 minutes and he was like great session, I'm like I bet it was for you
Starting point is 00:50:32 I bet that was great he probably fucking switched his screen off, he's playing Minesweeper he's playing Minesweeper no no, Minesweeper Minesweeper, he is I didn't mean Dutch, I meant German he's Minesweeper. Mein Weeper. He is. I didn't mean Dutch, I meant German. Mein Weeper.
Starting point is 00:50:47 Mein Weeper, here he is. Mein little Weeper. He's so sad about his dead granddad. Now I'm playing solitaire. He's having a little Mein Weepie. Mein Weepie. That first one, I just feel like I was just tired of a stranger. I'm in aepy that first one I just feel like
Starting point is 00:51:06 I was just tired of a stranger in a fucking waiting room you know someone just sparks a conversation in a waiting room
Starting point is 00:51:11 and you're like well I guess I'll talk to you that's what you've been doing that's why I think the best way in an ideal world
Starting point is 00:51:17 what I would love therapy to be which is you basically go to someone and go hey hey hey here you go
Starting point is 00:51:23 you've turned 18 years old. By the age of 20, you have to legally have gone to these 23 therapy sessions. And if at the end of those sessions, you feel like you don't need it, you never have to do them again. But just two years and 10 a year,
Starting point is 00:51:42 so less than one a month, for the next two years free therapy once a month and if at the end of the three years you think you don't need it you don't need it I predict 95%
Starting point is 00:51:52 because you just suddenly go people will get back because they will go that was helping me I want to get back after this it's not it's not about it's not about having problems
Starting point is 00:52:02 it's not about finding these things in yourself to fucking fix it's not about finding problems. It's not about finding these things in yourself to fucking fix. It's not about finding flaws and turning them into positives. It's about understanding yourself and why you react in certain ways and where in your childhood that comes from. It's just understanding the chemistry of who you are as a human being. Are they recorded? God, I fucking hope not.
Starting point is 00:52:24 No, why would they be recorded? Because they're like, just so he can like, go back and like, know and study them. Nah, don't do that. I think if they are recorded... Because they are in Ozark
Starting point is 00:52:33 and they are in Daredevil and like, on any like, HBO type thing where they've got fucking therapy, like, there's always like, a fucking thingy of tapes.
Starting point is 00:52:42 Ah. Oh, they're in. Okay, yeah, I've never thought about it. And also, my therapist does bring up stuff I've said in previous sessions, but I just thought
Starting point is 00:52:49 you'd be good memory. Maybe he does. He may take notes. Well, man, that's his job and that's what a therapist does. I'm going to pull on a balaclava
Starting point is 00:52:59 and Rob Cullen's therapist and he doesn't record that fucking morning. It's just a late table. So what, what's your name? Colin, Colin,
Starting point is 00:53:11 why are you so angry? Our Teta is still seventh. I can't fathom it. He's not tracking back. I'm such a, I'll start the NMI therapy on Twitch. Well,
Starting point is 00:53:22 I mean, that's the only reason I went to therapy is because I don't have the internet connection for Twitch that's what I was thinking I was like
Starting point is 00:53:27 I think my mental health would be so much better if it was better oh if I could produce yes I'm going to do
Starting point is 00:53:35 we'll do a longer one today this isn't going to be a narrow one but I'm just going to say at this point let's move on to the Michael Corners
Starting point is 00:53:41 because we do a festival I've got one if you want. Well, in that case, do you want to introduce Muggle Corner first? This could be quite quick
Starting point is 00:53:51 because I think it's just straight in. I think it's straight in. We're going to unpack it. We're going to unpack it still. Just in case there's new listeners, just explain what?
Starting point is 00:54:02 Muggles, they're an inoffensive being but a muggle is somebody that does some like low programming level shit like
Starting point is 00:54:09 the textbook one is love laugh live on the wall of your living room is muggle behaviour like if you watch X Factor
Starting point is 00:54:17 chances are you're a muggle Britain's Got Talent if your co-worker goes on holiday and you're like put me in your suitcase that's muggle banter
Starting point is 00:54:24 it doesn't make you a bad person if you said Mr Bit to the cleaner If your co-worker goes on holiday and you're like, put me in your suitcase, that's muggle banter. It doesn't make you a bad person. If you said, Mr. Bit to the cleaner, to the window cleaner, you're probably a muggle. If your neighbour's mowing his lawn and you're like, do my next smuggle behaviour. It's harmless. If you text into the music channel in the early thousands with your name and your source's name, to see what percentage you got, you're a muggle. I have been muggled? No! Sorry, one minute. What are you talking about? Wait, do you not remember this? We were talking about the little spinny
Starting point is 00:54:54 balls and stuff. No, no. Do you remember back when MTV was a music channel? Like BOSS? Between? It was a box. Aye. A kiss. A box. I remember the box. You text in your name, your Chris's name, and it just texts you literally your Nokia 3310. 25% or something. I remember the box. You text in your name, your cousin's name, and it just texts you literally your Nokia 3310. 25% of something.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Aye. That's hilarious. Fucking me. So some guy's just sitting there going like, wing it. Just getting, just ruining teenagers' hopes and dreams. Because I texted my big crush all the way through high school was Laura Young, and I've got no problem saying that name because it's incredibly common. But Laura Young was my huge huge crush and I texted that name and that 12% made sure that I never pursued her again. So Laura if you're listening you could
Starting point is 00:55:40 have had me but some chap doing text messaging. Unfortunately, what got between us was Kerrang. I love that it's Kerrang. The producers of Kerrang. It feels so Kerrang, but so Kerrang. Oh, no. Have you ever won anything on a show like that? Yes, I won. I'm so happy you asked this question.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I won a portable DVD player from Nickelodeon when I was 12 years old. You don't need to be portable. Why am I lost my mind? You've got a screen on, you've got a laptop on. So remember when DVD players were big things you had to connect to the TV? Yeah. In about 2002, 2003, portable DVD players. So it was smaller than a laptop.
Starting point is 00:56:28 So it was flash in the pan as a mini disc. Oh yes. Because you would just put it in your laptop. There was no need to have just an isolated DVD player. Oh no, but even the laptops didn't have the CD. It was much longer after that. They couldn't play. But basically when I was about
Starting point is 00:56:45 30 years old Nickelodeon was on TV and they were like we're looking for some new movie reviewers send us in your movie I've actually told this
Starting point is 00:56:54 show in the podcast before send us in your movie reviews and I was just bored to my limb and I was like okay I'd like to review 101 Dalmatians
Starting point is 00:57:03 I wish all of those Dalmatians were cut all of those Dalmatians were cut up and turned into a jacket and I just sent it away because I was a troll before trolls existed
Starting point is 00:57:11 and I sent it through 17 minutes later on the TV and we've got our first answer in here from a young Daniel Sloss
Starting point is 00:57:21 he says he'd like to review the movie 101 Dalmatians and they did not they clearly did not read it through at all because the guy
Starting point is 00:57:28 was like I'd like to send all of those dogs into a coat making that's a beautiful letter Daniel thank you so much no
Starting point is 00:57:37 they sent me the fucking DVD player you want a portable DVD player and a joke they weren't allowed to read out yes
Starting point is 00:57:43 just send them the DVD player we've been done. Sorry, I feel like I interrupted the story that you wanted to... No, I actually didn't. No, so yeah. I've never wanted it. He's never wanted it.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Teletext. People used to fucking send it. Like, as you can get at the depths of Teltext, there was like 999 different pages on Teltext, right? And one of them was about pen pals. People looking for pen pals and put their fucking address on Teltex right and one of them was about pen pals people looking for pen pals and put their fucking address
Starting point is 00:58:06 on Teltex so anyone would trust the television could open Teltex like I used to only use it for like whatever fucking football results
Starting point is 00:58:13 or bamboozle you know the little game those were the days do you know what I'm talking about yes I used to
Starting point is 00:58:19 so it would be like multiple choice games can't put fucking their addresses to be pen pals on for the price of 26 pence. You could send debauched fucking bullshit at least fucking straight.
Starting point is 00:58:29 That's so weird to do. You know what fucking can't? Yeah, I got your finger off Teltex and just fucking start spieling. I'd love to see them now. I can't remember what I wrote. Grossly inappropriate. If our parents saw them, they're dead.
Starting point is 00:58:42 And if you saw them now deeply ashamed deeply ashamed like honestly like fucking Sarah Pascoe with a fucking polo I swear to god
Starting point is 00:58:51 right next episode can we try to not there's a bit I'm just saying everything I say doesn't get turned
Starting point is 00:59:00 into fucking stone stone and put the back of it everything that leaves your mouth is like and here's the thing that can help people stand and put the back of a dustbin everything that leaves your mouth is like and here's the thing that Kai Humphries will stand by for the rest of his life now I've got to end up in a whoops bin
Starting point is 00:59:12 a whoops bin I enjoy that it's funny a whoops bin that's way better than being cancelled it's A whoops bin? That's way better than being cancelled. It's a whoops bin isn't it? No, no I was pretending I had books and a whoops bin and I ended up with the fucking 99k flash sale.
Starting point is 00:59:36 Oh, that's funny. A whoopsie bin? I thought the whoopsie bin was the fraction of being cancelled. I said no way for it to be cancelled. Into the whoopsie bin. He had a whoopsie. I did the whoopsie bin yeah the whoopsie back to the whoops bin again
Starting point is 00:59:47 what do you mean it's cancelled no it's the whoops bin the whoops bin is actually way better than the cancelling because cancelling
Starting point is 00:59:53 is too permanent look people make mistakes they say things they don't mean they say things they don't do but as human beings we all grow
Starting point is 00:59:59 and we all learn the problem with cancelling suggests that you don't get another series after that but if you put somebody in the whoopsie bin, in the same way that you go into the sin bin in rugby or hockey, you're going to lie back out in about five or ten minutes.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Tail between your legs. Why? I'm sure you're going to the thing about the hookah. There we go. We need to change cancelling people to putting people in the whoopsie bin. The whoopsie doopsie bin. But also, you've got to make sure that there's a boundary for it. Like, Donald Trump doesn't get to go in the whoopsie bin. The whoopsie doopsie bin. But also, you've got to make sure that there's a boundary for it. Like,
Starting point is 01:00:25 Donald Trump doesn't get to go in the whoopsie bin. He doesn't get to be like, he gets to lead the, right about him, right about Donald Trump. Are you trying to bring
Starting point is 01:00:35 down your dickhead? He did so. That'd be funny if you were like, you killed an entire family of children and you're just like, well,
Starting point is 01:00:42 whoopsie bin for me. No, no, no, you're cancelled. Donald Trump being like we need to kill Black Lives Matter and the Republicans are like
Starting point is 01:00:51 we'll be honest he belongs in the whoopsie bin as Republicans we've got a strict and the Dems are like three
Starting point is 01:00:59 a million he's in the whoopsie bin we've done everything we're politically able to do did you see Kanye pissing on his Grammy speaking of presidents I saw someone tweeting about like million he's in the whoopsie bin we've done everything we're politically able to do did you see Kanye pissing on his Grammy
Starting point is 01:01:06 speaking of presents I saw someone tweeting about like why is there no pressure just drop it on his cock no because he's on well no he's not on
Starting point is 01:01:15 enough drugs at the moment I also realise I want to give one clarification specifically to Natalie yeah the reason I
Starting point is 01:01:25 am not willing to put Sarah Foley in the whoopsie bin and hate her fully the reason I've got loyalty to Sarah is because of Latitude Music Festival when she took drugs off an 18 year old I was there, she took drugs off an 18 year old fucking put that in your book
Starting point is 01:01:41 we've taken drugs off 18 year olds. Aye, and I'm not writing books being a fucking whole other than Al Conde. Aye, aye. I thought that's right, I thought okay, that dude took a pill off an 18 year old the time I thought it was cool. Right. No, my story here is, was, I was about to take half a pill. I didn't want to take any drugs
Starting point is 01:02:05 and this was I mean about 7-8 years ago yeah because Elliot still was 18 then oh the same person
Starting point is 01:02:12 she threw under the bus was it Elliot I don't know if it was Elliot was it Elliot was it I was on drugs so I can't remember but basically
Starting point is 01:02:19 I me and Sue both had a pill and I was like should we just take it and she was like sure we both took it and had a pill and I was like, should we just take it? And she was like, sure, we both took it.
Starting point is 01:02:28 And I turned around and I was like, fucking, this is strong. She was like, you didn't take a full one, did you? And I was like,
Starting point is 01:02:32 of course I took a full one. She was like, I said only to do a half and I was like, oh my God, you did say to take a full, you did say to take a half, oh my God,
Starting point is 01:02:40 I've taken a full one. And with that second thought, she threw the second bit in her mouth and joined me on it. No, that's what I mean, I thought she was sound. Like, we were in Australia,
Starting point is 01:02:48 like, I remember when I was, like, fucking, like, just teaching Shappi Koshandi's kids how to swim, you know, like, being a swell guy. Ah, but what does Shappi say about you in her book? You tried to drown her children. At one point, you told her son
Starting point is 01:03:02 that he would either sink or swim. Yeah. Nice one. Muggle Yeah. I swam. Muggle Corner. Muggle Corner. Muggle Corner. Muggle Corner. Mine is about...
Starting point is 01:03:11 What of that was your... My Muggle Corner, nah, I was just spelling out what Muggles were. And then it got into yet another conversation. My Muggle Corner is gender reveal parties. You got this as well. Oh, cool, babe. I made you, snap. So, I actually, Ryan and Kyle, you're gonna have to kiss
Starting point is 01:03:34 because you both got the same model of horny. This has never happened before. So, we'll just do it on a... Stop laughing at Kyle, he's trying his best. Stop laughing at Kyle, he's trying his best stop laughing at Kyle he's trying his best stop laughing at
Starting point is 01:03:48 each other oh yeah stop it oh yeah well you do know there's some like ADSRM fucking fiends
Starting point is 01:03:56 that are jacking the fuck over you slapping their lips there I come from the kind who's got fetish fangs on his switch
Starting point is 01:04:01 cap this one thing I know is I'm not going on the podcast The cunt who's got fetish fangs on his switch coat. That's one thing I know will not be on the podcast. This clearly all came from that story where the guys burnt down houses like America, basically, with fun. Did you see Alex Edelman's incredible tweet? No. If you have a gender look, this is Alex Edelman, who's been on the podcast before,
Starting point is 01:04:25 the most Jewish man that's ever lived. Brilliant comedian. His tweet was if you have a gender reveal party and it puts an entire forest on fire it's a boy. That's very funny. And it's incredible.
Starting point is 01:04:42 These gender reveal parties they haven't, or at least I want to gender they haven't or at least I want to believe they haven't fully made their way to the UK yet
Starting point is 01:04:51 yeah because in America it's it's become this I've seen a few in the UK have you Harry Kane
Starting point is 01:04:58 it'll just be like Harry Kane Harry Kane he did one like a free kicker apparently and it hit the thing and it burst
Starting point is 01:05:04 like a tank Harry Kane took a penalty and it hit the thing and it burst. It took a few takes. It's been five years. I still don't know. Colin Wilson? He's good player. Why did he go in? He scored on the weekend. He's had as many goals as a Bami hat.
Starting point is 01:05:23 But against who? Against West Ham actually there was a deal like this we chatted with the podcast there was an American quarterback
Starting point is 01:05:31 who tried it as opposed to those British quarterbacks but he had scored a 25p back same as Harry Kane
Starting point is 01:05:39 had he hit the thing but he he fucking missed like he missed it it was so embarrassing
Starting point is 01:05:45 and I was like surely why is this live just edited cut cut cut it out like it's absolutely
Starting point is 01:05:51 I don't know I just kind of see why like you wouldn't just like send a group chat text us your pals even just put a
Starting point is 01:05:59 Facebook status you know what I mean it needs some kind of fucking theatrical prestige level fucking shade like why does it need to be well see because i've got i'm in a morally difficult position but i think like i wouldn't
Starting point is 01:06:13 have a gender reveal party but i would like to know what gender the child is before it was born just because i'd just like to know but if the child grew up to just go like if i had a daughter who's like at the age of 15, be like, Dad, fucking, I love you deeply, but you should have made me with a cock. You got this wrong.
Starting point is 01:06:32 I'll take it on the chin. I'd be like, all right, lad, all right, lad, let's fucking, let's get into.
Starting point is 01:06:38 I may be behind the times, but I think it's perfectly fine and normal. And I am going to definitely 100% do this, no matter what society tells me to just assume your child is cis until until they say otherwise
Starting point is 01:06:50 and I will just go along with the cis child until they make some kind of adult decision and the second they go
Starting point is 01:06:57 I'm not cis you go hey alright and you know what if I notice any child decisions like they're not decisions
Starting point is 01:07:03 if I notice any traits or anything I'll just lean towards it if we fucking boy wants to play with Barbie dolls And you know what Like if I notice Any child decisions Like they're not decisions If I notice any traits Or anything like that I'll just lean towards it If we fucking Boy wants to play With Barbie dolls You play with Barbie dolls
Starting point is 01:07:10 No Like if Your toys aren't Going to dictate Like this is what We force upon the children I agree with you But you'll admit
Starting point is 01:07:18 Whether a boy or girl If your kid goes near cricket You'll stop them Plays cricket? You'll stop them Yeah Regardless of gender You'll stop your child cricket? you'll stop them regardless of gender you'll stop your child
Starting point is 01:07:27 I'm going to have to take them to the sport play a sport that I'm going to enjoy why is the tool you use for the sport the same tool I use to beat all the dads
Starting point is 01:07:37 who are also at the sport because this is a Tony game what do you think someone accepts those sports then by cricket? for your kids? I would accept those sports then by cricket? For your kids? I would not accept my child playing cricket.
Starting point is 01:07:50 I would... And I mean that sincerely. Don't take this as a... I was going to say because I would say tongue in cheek if my kid wanted to play cricket
Starting point is 01:07:58 he'd knock yourself out with a cricket bat. Oh no, no, no. If my kid wanted to play cricket I'd knock him out with a cricket bat. That would be the
Starting point is 01:08:04 thing to do. You do not play cricket in Scotland unless you wear a Rangers shirt. I didn't think I'd ever put restrictions on their enjoyment and stuff. I just kind of wanted to figure out the world, different let society tell you which fucking bracket you belong in.
Starting point is 01:08:18 You just can't sort that out. And anything that sticks, really fucking throw yourself. Whatever you love if I see them fucking really killing it on the drums or whatever
Starting point is 01:08:28 I'm like right okay let's get you good at this this has got your passion killing it on the drums like Dave Grohl Dave Grohl's doing videos with like some
Starting point is 01:08:37 nine year old have you seen that lassie that the drummer that's like nine year old lassie that's fucking mint and she's like
Starting point is 01:08:44 she's got her tongue out like fucking killing it can you genuinely imagine how awkward it is as a
Starting point is 01:08:50 as a trans person to watch your own gender reveal video back like imagine your mum and
Starting point is 01:08:59 dad are like it's a boy and then for your 21st birthday they're like hey here's a video
Starting point is 01:09:04 from the day we knew what you were they're like it's a boy and then for your 21st birthday they're like hey here's a video from the day we knew where you were they're like it's a boy and you're just sat there full dressed being like fucking boy
Starting point is 01:09:12 did you waste 25 bucks on getting it wrong plot twist motherfucker got it wrong turns out I was
Starting point is 01:09:20 I was about to say the bad guy that's not the narrative I want to fill in there I think right I was about to say the bad guy. That's not the narrative I want to fill in there. I think... Right, I may be getting this wrong. But if I'm to assume, sis, there's a huge chance I'm going to be right.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Statistically, there's a huge chance I'm going to be right. But if you want to just go, right, I'm not going to gender you. I'm just going to carry on until you know for yourself. There's a huge chance you've got that wrong there is but what I will say Brad Scott who you know yeah his his son is my godson and but my godson was born a girl yeah and Harper yes yeah so he was born Harper He's now Charlie Oh, I didn't know Like I knew
Starting point is 01:10:07 I knew he was trans I didn't realise he'd changed his name Yes, so Harper was born Harper to Brad And was Female, 12 or 13 And then just at the age of 13 Well, I mean not just
Starting point is 01:10:22 Not in a spring of the moment Through his life Realised that he was born in not in a spring of the moment, through his life, realised that he was born in the wrong fucking body, had the courage to tell his dad, which we're both immensely fucking proud of, and he's just gone
Starting point is 01:10:31 through that now. And it's, you know, and Brad's dealt with it in the best way, which is essentially... Has it done too much damage to Charlie being raised
Starting point is 01:10:41 as a girl because society had assumed by a genital such as a girl? No had assumed by her genitals that she was a girl no Charlie's problem is that he lives in Indiana right which is very progressive what's the opposite of progressive
Starting point is 01:10:56 Indiana the opposite the literal opposite of progressive so my wonderful godson who is one of the most courageous, brave and kind people I've ever met is currently going through this shit
Starting point is 01:11:11 and again this is I'm wildly ignorant about trans issues hugely fucking so I know so fucking well to the point that I find it dangerous to talk about 100% it should be a conversation but it's a conversation you're scared of
Starting point is 01:11:25 but I'm scared of it because like I have this godson who I love fucking immensely right but I'm not going to pretend for a second I don't know what he's gone through
Starting point is 01:11:34 I don't know what he's going through and I don't know what he will go through so when I talk about him I am going to get shit wrong because no matter how much I
Starting point is 01:11:42 talk to him no matter how much he explains shit I'll never have his experience and what's what's so great about him
Starting point is 01:11:50 is because obviously he grows up in this fucking shitty fucking state that won't accept him it's because his dad's so accepting because we're all
Starting point is 01:11:57 so accepting and he's got this world which is beautiful to him where it's well I mean at least I hope it's fucking
Starting point is 01:12:04 inspiration for him and I've lost my point. Your point was? You find it awkward to talk about? No I find him disgusting that much. I'll assume all my kids are Apache helicopters. Man is that not the worst fucking banter. It's the worst fucking banter in the world. It's... What it is, is it's banter from somebody who understands 1% of something
Starting point is 01:12:32 and then they're like, so if you're... It's Piers Morgan. So wait, wait. So if Sam... Which one of the 600 genders do you... So if Sam Smith could be either, I could be a fucking penguin
Starting point is 01:12:45 Piers if you act like a fucking penguin walk into the fucking safe place leave your fucking kids right go in
Starting point is 01:12:52 and I'll feed you entire fish down your fucking gullet and you're not allowed to wash and I will make sure and I'll make sure
Starting point is 01:13:02 that every second of your day you're terrified of polar bears that's when you're allowed to identify as a fucking this idea like
Starting point is 01:13:10 aye it's always like a complete jump you're the next fucking it's about the gay marriage thing where we're marrying dogs
Starting point is 01:13:17 yes yes it's the exact same fucking argument that's coming right before we let the gays get married they're like
Starting point is 01:13:23 well if we let the gays get married where does it end and the answer was it ended we let the gays get married, they're like, well, if we let the gays get married, where does it end? And the answer was, it ended with the letting the gays get married. They've got the same thing with fucking trans issues. Well, if a man can identify as a woman, and a woman can identify as a man, where does it end? There. That's... Or they could be in between. But what...
Starting point is 01:13:38 But it ends with two girls sucking each other's cocks, get over it. Like, why does that bother you? Aye, stop! Stop searching that bit on Pornhub, you psycho! Why is your head in? Stop searching that bit of porn Have you psyched? Why is your head in some other adult's bedroom? Yes, yes, yes To a certain extent
Starting point is 01:13:52 Get involved in that shit when it starts Becoming non-consensual Or children Or something where society needs to get involved As long as society doesn't need to intervene Live your life live your goddamn life
Starting point is 01:14:08 live your goddamn life so Muggle Corps are generally real parties I don't want to I don't want to can of worms
Starting point is 01:14:13 no no no I think that was at least I hope it was I feel that was aye I mean Charlie please feel free
Starting point is 01:14:22 to text me and correct all of us about everything we got wrong. We are here to... That's what I think as well. It's not Charlie's job to educate us. It's kind of our job to educate ourselves.
Starting point is 01:14:33 That's why I was just talking about that. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Fuck that. Charlie's currently going through absolutely his show. I'm putting it on him. And only him. The whole world. Charlie, buddy boy
Starting point is 01:14:47 you know how much I love you teach me everything no no you're right it's not Charlie's but it's not Charlie's
Starting point is 01:14:54 job to teach me but I am the knowledge of that has got to come from the source because we can't have the knowledge of that come from
Starting point is 01:15:00 a passive place but I'm learning from Charlie like I'm learning through what in very in small, I'm learning through what, in very, in small increments, but learning through
Starting point is 01:15:08 what he's going through, it's making me more understanding. And it is something that I'm deeply ignorant on, which is why it's so uncomfortable to talk about sometimes. I'm ignorant so much
Starting point is 01:15:22 because I'm fucking 100% on one side of the scale on so many things. I amdano. Rwy'n 100% ar un ochr o'r sgail ar so amser. Rwy'n blwch iawn. Rwy'n 100% ddyn, rwy'n 100% yn gyffredin, rwy'n 100% yn gwael. Yn ymddangos... Ydych chi'n 100% gyffredin? Ydych chi'n 100% gyffredin? Rwy'n hoffi cocc.
Starting point is 01:15:38 Ydych chi'n dweud beth? Rwy'n hoffi gweld ei cocc. Rwy'n hoffi gweld ei cocc. Rwy'n hoffi gweld ei cocc. Dyma'r peth, iawn. I hate to see his cock. I mean, I've seen his cock. You hate to see his cock?
Starting point is 01:15:42 No, no, no, this is the thing, right? I would, but not out of anything sexual. What? I'd want to, like, Just for a laugh, you know? Well, not even a laugh,
Starting point is 01:15:52 just more like... You wouldn't kiss a bloke? There's no dedication to kissing. No, I would think it, like, probably, like, turn birds on. Just to get birds to let us off.
Starting point is 01:16:03 Probably just pay me a pound of flesh, you know. Charlie, Charlie, stop listening to this bit. Well, I would say, aye, I would be, like, Idris Elba's cock, right?
Starting point is 01:16:15 Yes, I would. If I was given the option to see his cock, aye, but it would be, I would have just been inquisitive. Man, I'd snog, I would have a
Starting point is 01:16:25 three week relationship with Idris Elba and I don't think I'd enjoy the sex but I'd enjoy the other 174 hours
Starting point is 01:16:35 I would friend zone Idris Elba I'd absolutely friend zone him even if I even if I even if I fuck mate
Starting point is 01:16:43 I'd just be like nah man Idris Elba I want to see other people and then just kind of even if I fucked even if I fucked mate I'd just be like nah mate I want to see other people and then just go and shag birds I love being
Starting point is 01:16:52 bird fight I don't know why it's so funny it's like when Bill Bars is brought sometimes it's just
Starting point is 01:16:58 I think it's because I just listen to everyday sexism as well now it's just got this new layer of how wrong I know
Starting point is 01:17:03 it is look and sexism is funny now it's just got this like new layer of how wrong I know it is aye look and sexism is funny for the wrong reasons anyway I just think like I 100% straight white bloke and that's like
Starting point is 01:17:15 that's the only lens I can see the world through so like I have to like read and watch and listen and like and educate myself
Starting point is 01:17:23 through other people's lens because I have got absolutely no fucking horse in the race for a lot of them lifestyles. But I believe that's... I think that's the right way to go about it, is to go, I'm going to try it. That's something I only learned later on in life, is suddenly going, you know how I think I'm right
Starting point is 01:17:44 and everyone else thinks I'm wrong? I might start trying to understand why they think I'm wrong. Yeah, because they're not just doing that to be awkward. They're not just doing it to be shy. They believe this too, so I should try my best. That's why I spent the whole Black Lives Matter movement chatting. People who, like me, were white blokes
Starting point is 01:18:08 that just couldn't see it from another point of view. I was like, oh, let's see what you've got to say also. Why are you so firm? Why are you not open-minded like me? Turns out I'm open-minded because I've fucking seen the world. I've travelled, I've met other people and I've started looking at the world through other people's lens. And when they've travelled, they've travelled either 50 miles
Starting point is 01:18:25 to bed at all aye and they've never read a fucking book that's from the point of view of a black woman or something they've never
Starting point is 01:18:32 they've never they've never seen life through a different lens the entire problem with the no sorry the entire problem I'll not fucking do
Starting point is 01:18:40 a black and white thing but a big problem with the American fucking South and the American general is the tactical lack of education
Starting point is 01:18:48 that has been enforced and it has been a tactical lack of education that Republican governments since 1967 have enforced keep them stupid
Starting point is 01:18:57 yes yes because we don't need chemtrails because the fucking very the chemtrails on the liquor store
Starting point is 01:19:04 extremely right wing governments understand they need to keep a populace stupid in order to win the fucking vote and that's yeah
Starting point is 01:19:11 yeah I found like I'm not saying a lot of the people I talked to were unintelligent because maybe they did have an education maybe they had a university degree I didn't have but a lot of the people
Starting point is 01:19:19 I spoke to were uncultured they hadn't looked outside of their own little fucking family unit and they were nice people and hadn't looked outside of their own little fucking family unit. And they were nice people and they were very protective of their own and quite tribal.
Starting point is 01:19:31 Matt, no, no, no, man. That was and still to some extent is me. Like, I'm not going to put that on other people. I still am. My way or the highway. Yeah, no, I have that deeply within myself my beliefs that I hold are so profoundly
Starting point is 01:19:47 to me that if someone else like these deeply fucking Christian these deeply fucking racist people that exist
Starting point is 01:19:55 as much as to you and me we're like how can you be like that it's just within them because of their in the same way that you and me
Starting point is 01:20:03 are the way we are it's because we were fortunate enough to be brought by liberal-ish parents. Yeah, that loved each other. That loved each other, healthy sort of things. All three of us, Colin. So, gender reveal parties. Muggle court.
Starting point is 01:20:22 It's absolutely muggle court, Ali. I mean, the fact that we're both fucking doubled it. Aye. And we'll, I think that's a good one because we're now on... And as well, there's that extra layer of Muggle Corner. Like, it's an American thing that English people are starting to do, like your Black Fridays and your Thanksgivings and stuff like that. Where you're just like, oh, man, that's a dip.
Starting point is 01:20:40 To every British person listening to this podcast, as a country, and to this podcast as a country and I say this as a Scottish person while we're still part of your fucking shite country we need to stop trying to embrace America because America hasn't been great for roughly
Starting point is 01:20:58 1967 is the exact year, well not the exact year but well, not the exact year, but the year that the Republican Party started going to Newt Gingrich. That's when it started accepting, for the first time ever in American history and democratic history,
Starting point is 01:21:15 they started accepting outside demagogues. I've read a very good book called, and I sound intelligent at any point, it's from a book Mark Nelson bought me called sound intelligent at any point it's from a book Mark Nelson bought me called Why Democracies Die it's a wonderful book
Starting point is 01:21:29 I read it within three days and it's fascinating so I recommend that and then you go and now my dad jokes no no even more
Starting point is 01:21:38 no no infinitely more exciting than that lad so much more exciting than that lad we get to plug gigs for the first time in god knows
Starting point is 01:21:49 and Cullen I know you're looking at your phone being like I don't have any gigs but Cullen you do because on Monday next fucking week
Starting point is 01:21:56 you and I are at the stand Newcastle along with Cullen 21st we're all doing that new material that's good
Starting point is 01:22:04 I'll take everyone tonight it's gone also it'll be Cullen will probably join 21st we're all doing that new material that's good new material night that was a good one tonight just gone also it'll be Cullen will probably join at the Newcastle stand the way this is working and this is literally
Starting point is 01:22:14 just between us podcast listeners between now and the foreseeable fucking future I will be trying to do gigs every Monday
Starting point is 01:22:23 at the Newcastle stand book in pay attention to the fucking website and I'm going to be on most of at the Newcastle stand book in pay attention to the fucking website and I'm going to be on most of them I've put most of them in and as will Ryan
Starting point is 01:22:30 because we live together and it'd be also I've got a you probably listen to this on a Thursday so that means you have got time if you're on
Starting point is 01:22:37 the Liverpool area to bag your tickets for hot water comedy which is on there's an early and late show like a seven and a nine o'clock show the lineup will be
Starting point is 01:22:45 sick as fuck 18th and 19th of September and on the 23rd and 23rd of September we are in North Allerton that's mean you come on the 24th
Starting point is 01:22:57 of September with the Nottingham Glee Birmingham Glee on the 25th and then on the 26th of Glee there's two shows
Starting point is 01:23:04 in a barn are you part of that as well? I think I am thank you yes Gracie and Bruce are coming to that aye
Starting point is 01:23:10 in Leeds in yes and then hold on and then Newcastle on the 28th and then Punch Drunk Comedy is coming back
Starting point is 01:23:17 on the 29th and 30th with Matt Reid Louise Young and Gavin Webster am I on that? no I'm a no because it's in my diary
Starting point is 01:23:24 is it? 29th and 30th do you want to do it? do you want to announce that now? yw ymgyrch Gavan Webster. Ydw i ar hynny? Nid. Ydw i yn gwneud hynny oherwydd mae hynny yn fy diarad. Ydy? 29 a 30, ydych chi eisiau ei wneud? Ydych chi eisiau cyhoeddi hynny nawr? 29 a 30? Ie. O beth? O September. 28, bydd Newcastle yn rhaid i mi hefyd. Ie? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rungyn gyda'r newydd? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth newydd? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywbeth? Ydych chi eisiau gwneud rhywb somebody's new stuff I go on then there'll be like 70 people sold out you can just every time of day just figure out new material I go on then it's probably on
Starting point is 01:23:48 so with Daniel Louise Young Matt Reid and Gav Webster Ryan man shows
Starting point is 01:23:57 yes basically just those two I was making one yesterday and it was cancelled it was cancelled it's so gutting man but bar that no
Starting point is 01:24:04 you're supposed to just follow me no but you've also clean a bit of your podcast yeah clean a bit of your podcast going well
Starting point is 01:24:09 so me and Gareth are always over there on that and we plug all our gigs into that too let's get on that because that's way more regular than this
Starting point is 01:24:14 so people can alright the clean a bit of your podcast and this is a perfect time to actually join in with the clean a bit of your podcast because if you are oblivious to
Starting point is 01:24:23 American football that is exactly the fucking point of the podcast. Gareth came in as someone that didn't know it last year and enjoyed the fucking season.
Starting point is 01:24:32 This season you're doing the same? I basically he's caught up like very quickly but we still try and experience it. They're basically
Starting point is 01:24:38 talking you through it. It's the fucking it's the baby steps in the NFL right? I basically tried baby steps in the NFL also but like also we try? I basically tried baby steps in the NFL. Also, but like also,
Starting point is 01:24:47 we try not to talk too much just about the NFL because there's so many brilliant podcasts that are all like analysis and all. We try to keep to like, what mental shit have we done? So even if you're not following NFL, it's still a great podcast. So clean oblivious.
Starting point is 01:25:02 And twice a week, I do a twitch stream where I knit I sit there knitting and talking shit and it's twitch.tv slash kymuggins and while I'm here
Starting point is 01:25:12 I'm sponsored by Lakeland CBD so if you go to lakelandcbd.co.uk we were just talking about them earlier use the discount code muggins20
Starting point is 01:25:19 and you'll get 20% off a bunch of selected items also for him my book, I mean, I guarantee upon saying this, my agent is going to message me within the next 14 hours complaining about this.
Starting point is 01:25:35 But the book is delayed because I need to rewrite it. And the reason I need to rewrite it is because there was one chapter on about how much I loved America. And my opinion on that has changed. So I'm rewriting the book. Is that legit? A hundred percent legit.
Starting point is 01:25:55 There's two other reasons, but that is 80% of the main reason. You know what it is, right? We fucking loved America when we were there. I really did. Because we were in the good bits. You know what I think? We were in the coasts. You know what it is we fucking loved America I really did because we were in the good bits you know what I think we were in the coasts
Starting point is 01:26:08 you know what I think and we were in the blue balls hold on I'm just going to write Pascoe's next book America is like
Starting point is 01:26:16 a really attractive girlfriend who's hard work and you're only going out with her because she's super hot and then eventually when you dump her
Starting point is 01:26:24 she goes but you had such a smell on your face when we were fucked. Yeah, because that was awesome. The rest of it sucked. Beautiful on the outside, but toxic and cancerous and abusive on the inside. So when we came and used and abused and made love to America, we had the best time. That's why I was so upset.
Starting point is 01:26:43 Because the fact that America's not going to exist in the next 10 years really upsets me because I just cracked America and I could have really done with well I mean we'll just tour there
Starting point is 01:26:52 until they die essentially the plan is to go over there divide the state of embarrassment alright Ryan yes
Starting point is 01:27:04 your dad changed his middle name To the Eugene McCullen Right well Kai your dad describes the wearer As like an American version of the bill Oh god Your dad describes the wire as like an American version of the bill Somebody who's just recently watched the wire
Starting point is 01:27:46 If you don't know the Americans it is terrible if you don't know The Wire, British people, it's like a way better version of The Bill. It's like a American version of The Bill. The Bill were using camera phones to record it before there was cameras and phones. It was the most shaky shit they tried to do. This room was just like cobblestones. I'm like, going. Yeah, I'll do it.
Starting point is 01:27:58 It was a soap. Wait, no. Because I, my granddad, my poor dead granddad, God rest his soul, loved The Bill. Because I know, my granddad, my poor dead granddad, God rest his soul, loved the bell and I really, really remember that fucking opening theme tune. Here we go, let's stick it on.
Starting point is 01:28:12 This is for my childhood. Can I do your next? Erm... Oh no. Hi. Fucking old school techno. I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that. I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that.
Starting point is 01:28:20 I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that. I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that. I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that. I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that. I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that. I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that. I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that. I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that. I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and that. Fucking old school techno. I love them fucking shit though, like Casualty and Mad. Like that,
Starting point is 01:28:33 None of the Concerns, Soldier, Soldier. All of the American Circus. That's what it's like. Imagine dropping a pill to the belt. Right, that's enough Daniel your dad took his sleeping bag
Starting point is 01:28:49 to the vet because he thought it was a snake that he'd burst out of errr Kai your dad's ass is grass
Starting point is 01:28:58 and I'm gonna smoke it DMX for life baby Kai when your dad takes selfies it still looks like he's punching Colin your dad takes selfies it still looks like he's punching
Starting point is 01:29:06 Colin your dad doesn't approve of using cuss words so when your mum asked him to talk dirty he said he
Starting point is 01:29:12 wanted to frigger up the bottom of his wingle frigger up the bottom of his fucks Ryan your
Starting point is 01:29:19 dad calls his heart the inside clit and whenever he hears Jedward sing he calls it foreplay Fucking Jedward Daniel your dad's CV
Starting point is 01:29:32 is just an old drawing of the Flintstones Daniel your dad's been diagnosed with Parkinson's but his Fitbit says he's never been healthier Guy your dad's breath smells with Parkinson's, but his Fitbit says he's never been healthier. Kai, your dad's breath smells like your brother's tears. And I don't want to read into that. Kai, your granddad through the
Starting point is 01:29:55 generations, your dad, sorry, has passed down three things. Knowledge, possessions, and chlamydia. He passed it down. I won't. Kai, whenever the light bulbs go out in your dad's house he closes his eyes
Starting point is 01:30:10 to save energy Kai your dad brings back Dead Burst and press the cat trying to get some pussy trying to get some pussy. That gets a bit. Ban.
Starting point is 01:30:26 Hold on, hold on. Oh, we should have ended it there. That was, oh, we've got, yeah. I need to delete this bit. No, no. Just let me. I've always wanted, like, to have it exactly an hour long. But what, like, I want to add the intro.
Starting point is 01:30:42 You know, so when I put the intro on, then it's an hour. So, like, I can't just stop it on an hour. Like, it has to be. Anyway, I'll end it now.

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