Sloss and Humphries On The Road - No One's Role Model
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Sloss and Humphries on the road!
Muggins and cream, creaming muggins, straight thugging, living the dream
That's our intro
Fucking muggles!
Tickling the clit inside your head that makes you laugh
Woohoo!
They said it can't be done!
Are we in the same seats?
That's hack
Ah, muggles!
Accidental rim job in the park
Kiss kiss kiss
Or am I just being cynical?
Just muggled it up on fucking Mugglepedia
Where have you been since 9-11? Cheers mate, last day of the leg
Feeling good?
I watched
Society of Snow
I've gotten the name of that film wrong so many times
It's exhausting listening to you
get it just completely and utterly wrong
It's like Aldous Snow Society paw patrol it's just no patrol play state is it the playbox 550 it's that it's that era of your
life so i watched that and it was two and a half hours of slightly less traumatic than that one
minute tour diary that you did in the middle of this tour. That one way but absolutely
threadbare.
You seem to be comfortably numb now though.
I don't know how
we used to do fucking
longer than this.
Well, kind of,
being sentimental, home used to be on the road
and now home's at home.
I think that's
the difference. Like when I lived in London London was
like me party flat and the place where I keep me kept me stuff yeah and we wife happened to be but
like I've got like like I feel like I've got home to go back to now yeah like Natalie Natalie lived
with a flatmate so I didn't feel like I was just leaving her We were just having the dog
So there's a bit of that
Also
It's been fucking busy
This leg of the tour
I mean the last one was as well
Germany but it's like
It's not like there's been
A great deal of
Recreation and partying
And
Doing stuff
No However The gigs have been tremendous recreation and partying and doing stuff. Mm-mm. No.
However, the gigs have been tremendous.
The people have been nice.
The food's been good.
Yep.
Yep.
You're just a wee bit homesick.
I could comfortably fucking,
I could, for years and years and years,
I've never, ever understood.
Like, you know, I always thought I'll always do this fucking job.
And now I'm like, I could take two years off and not fucking blink.
And like all the fears and anxieties I used to have of like, oh man, if I take a year.
You may not be there when I come back.
Fucking good news for me.
Man, if I step out of this fucking game for two years and i come back
and everyone's like we've got no idea who you are i think i would just stand there and be like
maybe that's for the best maybe that's i mean i don't think that is the case you've actually got
like a level of life now where like not working again would just mean getting a smaller house
it would just mean selling the house getting a smaller house it would just mean selling your
house getting a smaller one living off the rest like you you're actually set i think now as long
as you weren't ridiculous as long as i think that's why like do you think that's why some
new money celebs just spunk it on like lamborghinis and that yeah so that the need the work so that the need to stay ambitious i think so and because it's it's
actually like it's quite like if you get that kind of money it's quite easy to spread it out
at a working class rate yeah of like whatever like 15 20 grand a year that a working class
person would be on you could live a small life for a long time on your money yeah well i mean it's not look don't go
wrong i don't want to stop fucking working but i'm very much of the opinion now of uh if the next tour
is because the start of this tour was brilliantly booked it was perfect it was ideal like that was
the longest i've ever enjoyed doing like a show without it being overworked and this
year has fucked that already
and it's only continued
going to fuck that in the ass
very violently for the next
four or five months
so I can only imagine how
bitter
I am going to feel about this job
and the
I reckon the end of March is going to be
some of the worst podcasts you've ever
fucking heard so subscribe to Patreon
right now. Lock in for that. Lock in right now
if you want to hear proper
fucking mantrums from me. These are hostages
at this point. Yeah.
I'm very much
of because this is
I'll take some of the responsibility
for like the bad scheduling of this tour.
If it happens again,
my dummies are going out of the pram
and to the point where I'll just go,
right, I've now got so much money
that I'll just never, ever work again.
I would much rather spend 20 grand a year
purely just on like the bare necessities
than I would two or four days a month.
So what bit do you think fucked it?
Like the fact that you've got to go home
and then do a gig at Kirkcaldy straight away.
Why the living,
this is the problem with booking tours, right?
Is people go
oh Turkey's near Greece we'll just combine those two
don't combine those two
I couldn't give a fuck how close
countries are to each other
like Marlena very much tried to get us
to fly from Greece to Turkey to fucking India and I'm like
oh cool three weeks away from home that won't make me
suicidal at all. It's actually going to be worse than that
because now what we're going to be doing is going
Greece to Turkey to Edinburgh to India.
Like it doesn't, just the fact that
just the fact that it's
popping back
home, that actually makes it more
hectic travelling. But it just doesn't mean
that you can see a child.
Aye, I know. And then just
the dumbass fuck. Why don't you bring Caelan
to India? Oh yeah, fuck it. Yeah, let's send
him to fucking space while we're at it
like let's just
let's yeah
let's just like
absolute fucking
hell for something
no oh
the fact that we're
like worried sick
that we're gonna get sick
no offence India
but I would never
not never
not never
never is incorrect
but with the way
we tour currently
there is not a fucking
chance for any amount of money
i would bring my family over to experience that and also like you've got to think of the health
care system like there's one thing you receive in health care i've got no doubt that the health care
in india is fucking amazing all of the doctors are in the united kingdom no no no but you misunderstand they're
all doctors like man look your racism's correct but my racism's more correct like yes they are
all coming over to our country but there's a billion of them right and 75 of them are doctors
like they're just born doctors and they're really really good at it
i would i man the one thing i've learned about being on the fucking road when we were in a
new zealand we were in a fucking taxi uh that was driven uh by an indian man and he was saying that
he needed to get eye surgery and we were like oh what's the health care system like in new zealand
and he was like there's not a fucking chance I am using the healthcare system in New Zealand.
I am flying back to India to get my eyes done.
Like, yeah, man, they're the best.
Like health and safety.
If something goes wrong in India,
that's the best place to be. And also, look,
one of the really uncomfortable things about India,
which you just have to accept is,
and I don't want to accept it,
but this is the golden pass.
Oh yeah.
You're God over there.
You're God.
We do.
Our ancestors did such fucking atrocities over there and they have such deep
racism over there because of the fucking caste system that like you do just
get better treatment everywhere.
Yeah.
Insurance money probably counts for more as well.
Absolutely.
It would be very,
very unfair.
They're probably getting banked if you get wheeled in.
Yeah, aye.
And they're all going to jail if I die.
I don't want to get to jail there, like.
No. I've seen Shantaram.
Have you seen it? I liked it.
I thought Charlie Hunman did a good job of it.
Still one of the worst books
I've ever dragged
my way through. Because everything that you hated about it
Is what Robert Jordan does
No
It is
Robert Jordan's never spent seven pages
Really super duper describes like a lot of stuff
No he'll give you the
He'll give you the socio-economic policies
And like the
The traditions of each area which is hard to
He won't describe He'll go through the garb
he'll go through like
what people are wearing
down to the fineries
yeah
but he won't tell you
the
what smell
what lavender smells like
for seven pages
and then
two pages after that
where every wrinkle
on a person's face
comes from
in that deep history
of frowning
oh
oh
I don't like that
it stank of shit
it stank of shit It stank of shit
And I can't believe the movie's not 19 years old
Were you just in a bad place when you read it?
Because you sometimes put your mood on whatever it is you're doing
And you hate that thing because of your mood
Yeah, but it takes seven months to read Shantaram
So I can't imagine I was sad for seven fucking months
I can't imagine for the fucking nine years that it took me
To read that book where absolutely nothing happens.
Like, do you know if the game
that you're currently playing
is as bad as you think it is?
Or is it actually objectively bad?
All of the reviews online
have said the exact same thing that I've said.
Marvel Midnight Suns is a really, really good game, right?
And it's voiced by Matthew Mercer
and your character.
I'm Matthew Mercer.
Matthew Mercer's my voice.
My friend's my voice.
This is really cool. I want to Marshall. Matthew Marshall's my voice. My friend's my voice. This is really cool.
I want to love this fucking game, right?
It has more dialogue
than the period between
10 BC and now.
There's more dialogue
happens in that game
than has happened on the world
since then.
It's unbelievable.
That's it.
Was there not like a Metal Gear Solid game that was like that as well?
Because like Metal Gear Solid was amazing.
One of the OG games of PlayStation 1.
And then I don't know if it was like two or three or something.
It was just like fucking constant cut scenes.
Yeah, it's not.
It's like they do a thing of like there's going
to be so much storyline in this i'm like there is a there's a bell curve on how much how much
i'll pay attention to the story right and that is if i find the story interesting right and it's
good and it's short enough that keeps me fucking i'm playing the game and then story happens during
the game while i'm playing it like it's in the background of the fight i'm like oh that's what
that's what i'm doing now that's interesting okay and then there's just enough cut scenes that I'll
actually watch every cut scene and then the drop-off point of after that is I no longer care
about any of the writing you've done yeah like I am I'm gonna be I'm just gonna did it did I'm
skipping every single cut scene in this now did Did you find it with the new Horizon Zero Dawn?
I don't know why that didn't take me.
What was up with that?
You know what?
I kept grabbing my phone when I was playing it.
I was gutted.
Oh, yeah?
I was just, my mind was just elsewhere when I was playing.
I don't know why it didn't grip us.
I was gutted that it didn't take me.
I think it was more of a button bash
rather than the last one as well.
The last one, you had to really strategise
how you're going to beat the dinosaurs in that one
you could just fucking
up your strength
and club them to death
the projecting my emotions
thing is fair
because that's why
I started playing
Marvel Midnight Suns
because I was just like
I wasn't enjoying
my
I wasn't enjoying
Baldur's Gate 3 as much
and I'm like
that's not the game's fault
I'm like
if you're not enjoying
Baldur's Gate 3 Daniel
it's because you're not
you just need something else.
You're just playing it to kill time right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you need, and because you've played it
a couple of times, you know, it's
not giving you the, you know,
the, sometimes
replaying the same thing over and over again is like a level of
comfort because you're familiar with it.
Whereas this, it just wasn't offering me like the
stimulation of escapism that I
needed. So, downloaded this new game, and again, this it just wasn't offering me like the the stimulation of escapism that i needed so downloaded
this new game and again i know this makes me sound incredibly fucking lame but constantly man i to
this day cannot believe sometimes that i'm friends with the people that i'm friends with right playing
a game that's really fun and it's matthew murd's voice and i'm pretty sure ashley johnson's in it
as well right and i'm just listening to this
Is that Ashley Johnson from The Last of Us?
Aye, well Ashley Johnson from Critical Role
but sure
Did I get that right though?
Yeah, yeah, yeah and she's
oh man she was like she was going to be a huge
character in
The Avengers
like and if you watch the extended edition
of The Avengers Ashley Johnson
is in it heaps.
But just the way fucking Hollywood
works is sometimes you
can film for seven days on something, two
weeks, and then your entire character's cut.
And you're like, huh?
To get
to play games that your friends are
part of because they're very good
at what they do is
exciting. And I do wonder if Matt Mercer ever feels that way
when he's watching me on stage
making thinly veiled
misogynistic jokes, he's like
ah it's my boy
probably
probably a bit
remember when Tom Stade was the voice on a game
and it was actually really good, it was like an indie game
that didn't have a big market
oh yeah I think you're closer than me actually there and it was actually really good. It was like an indie game that didn't have a big market. A Caligula? Caligula or something.
Oh yeah,
I think you're closer than me actually there.
With a K.
And like,
you would turn the world upside down
and mirror the world
and you were like,
you'd done things that twisted the platforms to.
Yeah,
it was like a 2D slide scroller thing
that there was some sort of 3D aspect
that you could bring into it.
Kalimba? I feel it's Kalimba.
Kalimba? I'm close there.
And it's
kind of like same
kind of
not the same kind of game as
Super Meat Boy but like that same kind of indie
like it was
just like it felt like
a couple of dudes made it.
Oh yeah yeah it was back in the
good old days of the Xbox when they just let you people fucking create kalimba
let's see come on kalimba is that right and Tom Stead does all the cutscenes on
it and it's like so undeniably him great oh we've actually had a few people right
in with the celebrity encounters well you know it's nicelyulling, but I can't even fucking find it.
I wonder if you could find it by typing in Tom Stade.
Game.
That's what I did.
Did you?
Okay.
Can I just open the celebrity encounters with this one?
Absolutely.
God, I once met Daniel Sloss And it was three weeks into a tour
And he was so depressed that he looked through my eyes
Into the back of my skull
Hoping that he could see the light
Of freedom and home
Not quite but similar
You read it out
You alright lads
I have a story about me and a famous person
And that was our good friend Mr Sloss over here
When he was staying in a hotel in Manchester
when it was very warm and the air con didn't work.
Oh, yes.
I remember you, you useless fuck.
When it was very warm and the air con didn't work.
No surprise.
I got told by a boss because I clogged Daniel Sloss
in the reception and I went to hide
because fuck meeting your heroes and that.
But anyway, I got told to go to a room
and give them
a heater and drinks vouchers
guess who it was
the one and only Daniel Sloss
which in my fangirl mind
all I could say
is I'm a big fan
and then thrust the heater
into his hand
so yeah
you fuck
he gave you a heater
when it was hot
with my son
with my son
who was fucking
like
Caelan was
three or four months
older at the time
we were going down
for a friend
Matthew's Matt and Mia's engagement party we were going down for a friend Matthew's
Matt and me
his engagement party
we were staying in
Manchester
locked down
he kind of just
fucking listed
and it was absolutely
boiling
there was no aircon
I think we talked
about this on the podcast
we fucking did talk
about this on the
goddamn podcast
Stephen you bag of shit
anyway love what you
guys do
can't wait to see you
in Manchester next week
there was a podcast
clip that went viral
around of my work so you guys laughing at me and it made my life oh great i can't remember
what the podcast clip is but uh i imagine it's like he brought me a heater kai kai he brought
me a heater it was hot and he brought me a heater was it something like that sounds like you that's
the first time i've had an impression he wasn't right I mean it didn't feel nice to hear
So I guess
But I don't think that was because of the accuracy
He probably hit a guy and it was hot
The only person who does
Even close
And I don't know why I'm so
Hard to impersonate because
It's not as if I'm fucking subtle
I think it's because my accent's fucking dull
Ari
Matty is the only one who doesn't even close one and it's he just does this
and it's because i fucking everything i say with my lips
did someone um put a compilation of you on now now was that was that uh special called now because you would go
now yes and that's why you called it now all of so for ages all of my specials were just named
after like it was me trying to get rid of the tics i have on stage so uh that's why one was
called really but really really became socio um now was called now no wait now was called now, no wait, now was socio
really was
yeah because you two had them as different names
is what you released them as right?
some of them yeah, dark was always dark
I think
really became jigsaw
was dark always dark?
dark was always dark
dark was always dark
what was jigsaw again? so?
so it was.
There you go.
So.
Aye.
So.
Because I used to say so.
So.
Yeah.
I didn't realise that you were addressing a text
because I thought what you were doing...
That's why my next show is called The N Word.
Or objectively.
Objectively
Yeah
Objectively
Call it objectively
I thought what you were doing
Is just
Marlena's just like
Bugging you for a show title
In December
The year before the fringe
And you're just like
Oh that's a huge fact
He has a single word
Work with that
That is how
I haven't wrote anything For the show yet Call it so That Call it now Call it really That's a huge factor. He has a single word. Work with that. That is how it's...
I haven't wrote anything
for the show yet.
Call it so.
Call it now.
Call it really.
Call it can't.
That is how it started
and then it got into the thing
of like,
I really just enjoyed
the spree of
it just being one word.
Do you wish you'd wrote a sentence?
No, because Jimmy Carr did that.
Did he?
All of Jimmy Carr's DVDs,
if you put them side by side, spell out Jimmy Carr did that did he? all of Jimmy Carr's DVDs if you put them side by side spell out
Jimmy Carr standing up
doing comedy on stage
making people laugh blah blah blah
like that's I don't know if it's the same anymore
but that was very openly
Jimmy's policy
to name it as specials
whereas I just got to the stage of
like one name titles
and then it sort of stuck and one
name titles are hard because it's like how do you fuck do you summarize a show but then
i mean fucking nobody expected fuck it when when when x was named x it was just named x because
it was my 10th show and it didn't become the special about rape and sexual assault until
july of that year yeah yeah i remember and then and then now you
know now that it's fucking weirdly cult and things that name really fucking stands out and purely
accidentally purely accidentally jigsaw was renamed it was the second i remember just sitting in the
studio with jp doing the edit of it and i'm like man this show isn't called so this show is called
jigsaw it's very clearly called
fucking Jigsaw.
Thankfully,
Dark was already called Dark.
Had to rename
the fucking now to Socio.
Hubris,
I still think is a great title,
especially for what
I was trying to do with it.
You know what you should do
your next show,
just have like loads of words.
Oh,
I know what it's called.
There.
Uh-huh.
What's it?
Mud.
Mud?
Mud. Aye. Yeah. Marijuana uses, words oh i know what it's called there uh-huh what's it mud mud mud aye yeah marijuana uses marijuana use of disorder it's the term that they're trying to come up with and put instead
of just drug addict are you gonna put the dot in it no just call it mud but all caps and then i
imagine the poster will be me caked in mud with a joint in my mouth um uh like like um the predator
not that i've been watching predator lately
recency bias um i just like arnold schwarzenegger just really uh
yeah well because i know it's the only thing when people ask me what my next show is about i just
know the fact that i do i want to talk about like addiction in general because there know it's the only thing When people ask me what my next show is about I just know the fact that I do
I want to talk about addiction in general
Because there's nobody in the world who isn't addicted at this point
We're all addicted to lots and lots of things
And I think it would be very easy to make that
Relatable
I'm not addicted to anything at the minute
I've been on the treadmill every day for 14 days
Just because it keeps me off my addictions
Just channel my addiction into something That's that that's how you deal
with addiction i think throw it at something worthwhile
and then get back and then get back to the drugs immediately i was gonna say i think
addiction works different to mine i have really nailed this tour as far as that goes, though.
Like, staying off my phone.
Staying off my phone.
Like, my phone usage is down a lot from the last tour.
Probably helps that I didn't lose all my devices.
That really helps that I didn't just fucking walk through security
and leave all my electronics behind.
But I've watched a film every day.
Been on the treadmill every day.
Watched both seasons of Welcome to Wrexham
Aye
I've done the opposite
I'm like
All of the years that I should have been putting into social media
I'm now sticking
Into
Fucking
I think I started pretty well with social media
At the start of this tour
And then just give up
I feel like I'm just
like it's good
to have the distraction
like it's good to have
like
to
I think
I think my problem
originally was just
like the fear of
responsibility
and the fear of
rejection of it
whereas
when I was talking
to Cara
I very quickly realised
the one
the bane of my career,
the one thing that's always fucked me off
ever since I wrote Dark
is that there's never just been a fucking library
of all of my shit.
All I wanted was to write specials,
put them out there and then fuck off
and move on to the next special.
But Netflix only wanted two,
HBO only wanted one.
Fucking, you know,
and then you're releasing them in other places and you've got to stagger the fucking releases yeah no one's on YouTube was on your website and it
just became this fucking thing of like oh my god I'm just never gonna get all these things in one
place and then I'm like oh my god no in fact like now I can just fucking curate it on you know in
sky okay the game has changed in a way that I don't really understand,
but like in the,
it's going to sound very horrible and narcissistic,
but I mean it from the bottom of my heart.
Whenever you see lesser comedians overtake you,
right?
You don't get to piss and moan about the industry anymore.
Whenever you,
whenever you watch people who are less talented than you overtake you because they're infinitely...
That means they've got something you haven't got.
And that's drive.
That's drive, work ethic.
And also, I'm pretty sure that when I was younger
and I had fucking drive,
and I was better than the comedians I was surpassing,
I bet they were blaming it on my work ethic.
There was 100%, when we started stand-up,
there was a bunch of amazing comedians
that had a 20-minute set
that you just couldn't get,
like you couldn't budge from the club scene
because they'd nailed that 20.
But then you start doing an hour at the Fringe every year
and you're turning over material
and yeah, your 20 might not be as tight as theirs,
but more people are coming back to see you
because it's a different set.
And then they'll piss and moan about people that are less funnier than them overtaking them that was that was us well i think
it's so so we're just that's happening to us from other people that i knew i agree on a different
level there's a different way it's happening but it's happening yeah no that's a very good point
and it's only upon hearing you say it in that way it's they were going against the same thing that
we're going against which is the idea of becoming your own brand because saying becoming your own
brand makes everyone want to break their own neck and die but like you were just doing 20s and
joggers you were and you would hopefully be the best on the bill and if you were the best In the bill you might make it to like a fucking TV show or whatever like one day whereas
comedians like us came along we start doing like solo shows for now and then we start touring and
Being able to turn it was like oh my god. Look at them doing all by themselves. They're trying to be themselves on television
the big fucking problem we all had with social media when it started was just this idea of, you know, we have to become the brand ourselves.
It's us.
We're selling and getting out there.
Yeah.
Because that's not how the game was.
It went from promotion to self-promotion.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And we used to specifically hire people to promote things for us
because we hated self-promotion so much.
Man, Chris Ramsey used to get
fucking bullied
he was a proper outlier
wasn't he
didn't get it wrong though
no he was streets ahead
he was streets ahead of everybody else as well
smashed it
have we got any
stories is that what this is here for
so the discord's on that
But a Screen Captain one's from
Yeah you've got better eyes than me
I do
Right you go in the Discord then
So there's a few pictures on there of Screen Captain
Am I swiping left or right here?
Yeah so that's the one we've just done
And then you go in that way
This is from Rhys Astrop
Kind of a celebrity story
A hotel I worked at
I worked at while at uni host
the Northeast football writers award the Northeast football writers award first of all first
of all for the Northeast to have a writers award in in general. Very funny. So the Chronicle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you doing writing in fucking coal, are you?
The Journal.
But then to reduce it to
Footballer's Writer's Award every year.
And for the last 10 years,
Alan Shearer has attended.
Each year, he sinks about 12 points at Guinness
and leaves before most of the awards.
That is a good, that's, aye, aye.
Never once offered, even offered to pay.
I read this when I screenshot it and i'm and i'm i'm doing the mental gymnastics defend him i'll do it in a minute right okay so let me go again
just because i haven't read this that's why i'm laughing so each year alan sharon sticks about 12
points of guinness and leaves before most of the awards start never once even offered to pay he
doesn't even say anything when ordering just taps his empty glass without looking at the server.
Never left a tip either, this stingy bastard.
And the North East writers are...
You can do that in Sunderland, man.
Sorry.
Like, imagine you got invited
and your agent urges you to go
because it's like publicity or you're getting paid
or whatever the fuck, right?
To a, like, chortle awards. You're sinking that bar're getting paid or whatever the fuck right to a like chortle awards
you're sinking that
bar and getting
to there before the
awards
journalists
yeah no no it's
not just journalists
it's fucking chortle
I'm burning that
venue down
um also
disparaging
she right here
like uh
he bought me a
paint
I like disparaging
she right it wasn't
Guinness it was
uh it was it was
Newcastle
that was all he was doing
yeah
em
when I went to the
charity thing
that he
you know when he hijacked
the gig from me
yeah
when my
I'll talk about this
I was supposed to be doing
a tour show
at the Newcastle stand
in Molina
our agent emailed me
saying
em
see below I've pushed back I
don't even know who this person is and the blow email was like we're sorry
we're gonna have to move guys to a date we've got these ones available Alan
Shearer was penciled in we didn't think it was gonna happen put guys to edit in
but now he can't do it so I'm sure I was doing this talk thing Molly and I just
thought it was another comedian and try to push back from Alan Shearer doing the
stand 300 see that no 350 whatever it is and I was just saying don to push back from alan shearer doing the stand 300 seat or 350 whatever it is
and i was just saying don't push back just get his tickets and when i went he put a thousand
pound behind the bar yeah and i got a couple of pints off him so good man good man okay
interesting reese i believe you i'm very glad that i believe you only on the grounds that when
i went to ask him for a photo he did not want to take that photo.
He did take it,
but we were very much in his way between the venue and the taxi.
I'm going to have to Google who this cunt is.
Alan Shearer.
Sam?
Mm.
Huggan?
Huggan?
Who the fuck is this cunt?
Scottish.
Is he?
Mm-hmm. Outliers, outlanders. Sam Roland Huggan is a Scottish actor, producer, author, and entrepreneur who the fuck is this scottish outliers
sam roland hugen is a scottish actor producer
author and entrepreneur
mate we're all
authors
he's best known for his
starring role as jamie fraser
oh he's old handsome
mcfuckable isn't he
you know what?
I don't,
I actually don't think
he's the sexiest of us.
Oh,
okay,
he's got muscles.
He's Scottish hot.
Ah,
yes,
yeah,
I'll acknowledge that,
yeah.
He's fucked over here.
Not specifically Denmark,
but Scandinavia.
That's not.
If he comes over to Scandinavia
He just fucking blends in
Like
Like not blends in
But
Fades
I'm also really annoyed
Sam Heughan
It's gotta be Heughan
That's how you say that name
Heughan
Heughan
Heughan
Yeah Heughan would be the
Okay so
Sam Heughan
Made me a cup of tea
Just heard Wednesday's pod
About name dropping
Thought it shared mine
I've been friends With Sam's Ex-sister-in-law for years.
Let me do the math there.
Sam's ex.
Ex-sister-in-law.
Parents broke up.
Parents broke up.
No.
Parents got together.
Sister-in-law, brother-in-law.
Parents broke up.
Ex-brother-in-law, ex-sister-in-law.
No, no.
That just means he divorced.
That's his...
So if he marries a girl,
that's his sister-in-law
and they get divorced.
Oh, and then they get divorced.
So that's just...
So I'm thinking
ex-step-sister.
I was doing ex-step-sister.
So his ex-wife's sister
or ex-husbands.
But that's not true.
I don't know if people
know this,
but Scotland's
a very liberal country,
but we do have
a quota for how many g but we do have a quota
for how many gays we're allowed a year.
It's just him at the minute.
We're allowed a lot, right?
You know, we get a fair few in, but...
Name your favourite five...
No, I don't want a favourite,
because that means you're favourite in them.
Name five Scottish gays.
Oh, okay.
I've got three easily already.
Alan fucking Cumming. Alan Cumming? got three easily already. Alan fucking Cumming.
Alan Cumming?
Yeah.
Who's that?
Alan Cumming.
I can't.
Here we go.
I'll show you Alan.
Alan Cumming.
Him.
Okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Who else do you think? No, but he was, I'm sure he was fucking part of that. him okay yeah yeah who else
no but
he was
I'm sure
he was
fucking part
of that
he's an actor
he's a very
very good actor
we all
love Alan
Cumming
Craig Hill
yeah
or this
isn't going
to count
Larry Dean
yeah
obviously
the other
one which
doesn't count
is John Barrowman.
John Barrowman?
Why does he not count?
Because, first of all, he's got a fucking disgustingly thick...
When you hear John Barrowman talk,
his American accent is so thick that you're not Scottish.
It doesn't matter.
I know Scottish people who have lived in America
for 40 fucking years,
and they still have a Scottish accent.
Like Manchester Scott McDonaghy
yes alright
John Barrowman will accept
because he's successful
but you're not Scottish if you lose
your Scottish accent
and any
abuse directed at me is valid
and accurate in that
Susan Calman
oh I forgot women were gays
I hadn't even
Oh Karen Dunbar
Fucking Rona Cameron
Susie McKay
There's loads of them
I know hundreds now
All of them
Scottish gays, come on there's got to be way more Scottish gays
than that
that I
know and that aren't just me mates
Surely the
Cameron
someone that we've done a TV
thing with one time?
I said Ronan Cameron. Ah yeah
Ronan
Rona. Who are you thinking of now?
Cameron someone. It was like a TV
presenter. Oh yeah
From STV
Yeah yeah yeah
I don't think he is gay though
Oh
I think he just
Just has that voice
Aye
You and Cameron
That's it
I'm safe
Yeah
I'm safe ladies
Come on
There's way more Scottish poofs than that
Come on
Rebuffedies
You too brother
Aye
Your dad
Aye Eh That's also Scottish case more we buffed these your two brothers aye your dad aye
eh
how's the
Scottish case
Scott Agnew
Stuart Murphy
aye Stuart
Murphy
who's a
Geordie by
the way
doesn't even
sound like a
Geordie
oh sorry
but he's not
Scottish
so lots of
case
sorry so
I've been friends
with Sam's ex-sister-in-law
for years
she visited me last year
and decided to go
and visit her ex-mother-in-law
who lives near us
weird thing to do
sitting having lunch
and Sam turns up
he joined us
for a few hours
and made me a great mug of tea
the whole family are warm
welcoming people
also he's one of the hottest
humans on the planet
please keep me anonymous
and that's from
Sam
I think it'd be something nice
if a celebrity
made you a lovely cup of tea.
Yeah.
Like,
put a bit of care into it.
Because there's something about
making a good cup of tea
that
it doesn't come from a diva.
You wouldn't make anyone
a good cup of tea.
Fuck off.
I offered to make tea all the fucking time.
Yeah, but now why is everyone saying no?
Well, because I don't respect tea.
Yeah, but if a celebrity makes a good cup of tea,
I think that's like, they're grounded.
I think it takes a really grounded celebrity
to make a good cup of tea.
I told you this the other day when it came
to fucking
I'm here to call it latte drinkers
Oh yeah you've done me a good one
I couldn't even defend myself really
I just think
I see where you're coming from
Lattes are lovely but
It's not coffee, if you drink lattes
you are not a coffee drinker
you're an adult baby If you drink lattes you are not a coffee drinker you're an adult baby if you drink
if you drink lattes what you do you like flavored you like warm milk all you want is a big glass of
warm milk because you're a giant fucking baby but the problem is you know that as a big baby
if you drink just hot milk you'll go nap nap and have a snooze during the day and you can't do that
because you're a big boy with a driver's license so you have to put the smallest amount of coffee
into your warm milk so that you don't accidentally go nap nap anyone who drinks latte is an adult
fucking baby and deserves zero respect and just yeah i agree with you with you, but I love a latte.
But it's like,
it felt like you'd caught us riding your bike with stabilisers on.
And I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, but it keeps us up.
And I hadn't realised,
I just saw it as a practical thing.
I'm like, oh, you know,
I can ride slowly without toppling.
Man, I realise that, because when we take Caelan, our son,
God, I miss my son, on our walks, there's a little coffee truck
and every day, like, not every day, but every time we go on a walk,
sometimes he gets like a baby Chino, right?
And you're like, oh, baby Chino, it's so nice that they do that.
Do you know what a baby Chino is?
It's just a hot milk.
It's a latte without one do that Do you know what a baby Chino is? It's just a hot milk It's a latte
Without
One fifth of coffee in it
That's
The difference between
A baby Chino
And a latte
Is way
Way
Way
Way less
Than the difference between
A latte
And actual real coffee
That heterosexual men drink
I learnt what a Quid Mardo was
And heterosexual women I learnt And what a quadrador was women and working gay men
not the dykes though weird like weird line i have quadrado do you know what a quadrado is
yeah i used to play for chelsea that's true um it's equal parts uh espresso and milk
It's equal parts espresso and milk And hot milk
So it's like half way out of a latte really
That's also like a piccalillo or something
Depends what country you're in
You're allowed to put milk into your coffee
You're allowed to flavour your coffee with milk
I don't personally
But do you think when it gets past the 50-50 mark on milk and coffee
When it gets past the fucking
Yes 50 is me being true The quadrado is as close as you're going to get That's You're buying it personally. But do you think when it gets past the 50-50 mark on milk and coffee? When it gets past the fucking, yes.
50 is me being true. The quadrado is as close as you're
going to get. That's, you're buying it.
Yeah, yeah. You're paying for both sides, aren't you?
Yeah. But even
then, like, I can't.
Which is weird, because look, here's the thing. I would
absolutely have a hot chocolate,
right? But I wouldn't have
a hot chocolate every day, and I certainly wouldn't
drink hot chocolate around other coffee drinkers going, we're the same.
Oh, that mocha.
Mocha.
Mocha.
It's just a coffee and a hot chocolate.
It's quite nice, but it would have craved.
Everyone can grow up.
grow up. Celebrity Encounter.
I was about 16 and we were doing some filming in Newcastle Town Centre for a
project for our Media A level,
or GCSE, or something school
related anyway. Some old bloke comes up
to us and starts asking what we're doing.
Oh God. Offering advice.
Us being young girls at the time sort of palmed
him off awkwardly. It wasn't until he walked
away that I realised I recognised him.
Bloody Brendan Healy!
Poor bloke
generally trying to
give advice
someone who works
in television
I mean I think he died
with a clean record
without noncing
and we did our best
to shoot him away
who the fuck is
go to Brendan Healy again
because I was
instantly thought of
Tim Healy
I wonder if they're related
Brendan Healy
I've absolutely
no fucking idea
who that cunt is
yeah you do
no I don't I recognise him I should know him no I don't know what's his name have a look
comedian apparently I'm being a heathen yeah television actor he was a black velvet game badger put in spender keysides and there we go
Jimmy Neil
Yeah, I don't okay well
For a second try fucking ten years
and
Well, you know that's
That's a big deal for anyone who lives within five miles of you. That's a celebrity, you know, fucking in
Canada there. I have no idea. No, absolutely zero fucking
idea.
Aidan McCullen, I don't know who he is that name that
name is in my zeitgeist. Is that right word? No, they guys
don't show zeitgeist in the heads of people. They have all
I've always known that name,
but I can't say I've ever...
Pass me this.
I'm not going to let you go through
the disgusting tragedy of...
Trying to read.
Yeah.
To the aggressive celeb meetings,
I'm going to throw some Danes in the mix,
which is good because we're in Arlberg now,
so that makes sense.
You can say my name.
So this is from my
me
my
M-I-E
me
my
I met Mads Mikkelsen
when I was 14 years old
and I'm a big fan of his
he's a very good actor
my uncle had done
some movies with him
oh fuck yeah
so my uncle arranged
for a meet up
after a theatre show he did
that my brothers
had got me tickets to
so it was a major surprise
for me
and so nice of him
to stay for almost an hour
drinking a beer
smoking some cigarettes
and having a chat
after doing a show he's a big football fan and so are my brothers
so it's mostly just them talking about stuff i didn't know shit about but teenage me was too
shy to talk to him anyways this was years before his international success but so happy to see him
get opportunities because he was a really nice guy and he still is uh and super talented. Oh, Nicola Costa Waldo. Fucking, you know him.
Old fucking incest Lannister.
Jamie.
Jamie Lannister?
Yeah.
And also Black Hawk Down.
Yes.
Have you ever went back and watched Black Hawk Down after you know who all the celebrities are?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So you watch it knowing a couple of them and then you go back and you're like spotting all of them.
Yeah.
He's friends.
Old Nabos to my cousin
I don't know what Nabos means
so I've been to some parties with him
super nice guy
genuinely seems interested
to get to know you
yeah I imagine with a lot
the fucking Game of Thrones cunts
because we know
well I say we know
I've met Jack Gleeson
once or twice
he's played Joffrey
and that obviously
launched him to fame
so much so
that he was like
oh I'm never going to
fucking do this again because this is everyone in the world hates me and i'm like yeah yeah
because you're really good at what you do you do a really good bad guy yeah like really hateable
um we also got a photo with um the baratheon boy what's his name again who Who? The one that booked Arya Stark
The Baratheon boy
The smithy
Oh
Yeah, I get it
The bastard Baratheon
Aye
Yeah
Aye
We got a photo with him at Bristol Square
Yeah, he's nice
He's very nice
I've had a few celebrity meetings in my life
But two stand out
And one of them was our boy Kai
Okay so you've got one celebrity story
That's me
Little old me
I was shot up in a psych ward a few years back
Before and during the starts of Covid
Fucking who needs a psych ward before Covid
You're a pussy
Just getting in while it's not busy
You know what I mean
She's 20
Hipster mental illness
Yeah yeah yeah
Like in a band before the blow up
You know what I mean
Or by the sense of the thing
Like in a band before you blow up
I kind of discovered the boys a wee while before
But then only found out about the pod in late
Late 2018 Early 2019 When I was locked up in the ward not doing so hot I kind of discovered the boys a wee while before, but then only found out about the pod in late 2018, early 2019.
When I was locked up in the ward, not doing so hot,
I found the pod again and started listening to them all.
And for the first time in fucking ages,
I started to smile and laugh again.
I'm just picturing one flew over the cuckoo's nest
with it over the tannoy.
It's not even in your headphones.
It's like playing.
There's people rocking in the corner.
Man, it's not in her headphones.
It's not in the tannoy.
She's just losing her mind
She's just going
Like we have never existed
Yeah
I think someone pointed out to me
That the only time I smiled and laughed
Was when I was listening to
Watching their stand up
So as you do
In the middle of the night
Message my Susan Cream
Instagram account
Saying that listening to the pod
Has been the only thing
That's kept the spark going in me
And I just wanted to say
They were doing some good work
In the world
Think it'd be mentioned
On the pod that Kai
Wanted to put good into the world which prompted the message
and Kai messaged me back and he was
genuinely happy that I had messaged. Thank fucking god
you're in charge of our Instagram account.
Hi guys, just to let you know that
your podcast really saved me during a dark
fucking time. Shut up and subscribe to
the Patreon you fucking bag of shit.
And if you're suicidal suicidal put us in the will
and people would go
it's just Daniel being Daniel
they'd say it as affection
it's his love language
oh correct
they were helping
and
he was really glad
they were helping and then checked in with me
and then when Covid hit and did Twitch, kept asking
how I was getting on and sent me a cameo
and roasted me in the best way
about being used to being locked up.
Yeah, great. Awesome.
And Lauren always checks in on Natalie
when it's a full moon.
Yeah. She's like, how are you guys
with a full moon? She knows that
one moon affected.
Disney film movies
here since it's
film's movie here
since it's cheap
so I don't know
where that is.
So I ended up
being an extra
in High School Musical
for about a week
in 2005.
You're going to say
it's like a jam?
No, I fucking hate
High School Musical
but like I haven't
hated High School Musical
since I was like
16 years old
when I was in high school.
Like this is like Were you in high school whens since I was like 16 years old and I was in high school. Like this is like...
Were you in high school
when high school music was on?
I often forget how much older I am than you.
Yeah, that was...
Yeah, because that wasn't even on my radar,
high school musical.
Yeah, a girl broke up with me
because I just went on a massive rant
about how it was the lowest form of entertainment.
And then I wrote Jigsaw.
That was her.
That was the girl.
And Muff.
Zac Efron and Corbin Blue were the sweetest.
Took photos, talked with everyone.
Hold on, Blue.
Corbin Blue.
Most of the rest of the cash was kept to the rest Of the main people The second one still haunts me
Good
In 2019
Lewis Capaldi did his US tour
Last minute they announced
The signing
I was so starstruck
That when he went to give me
A handshake
I told him
How dare you
And forced him to give me a hug
He seemed very startled by me
Basically calling him rude
But was classy
Went along with it
Took photos and chatted
With everyone else
Even though the event
Was only supposed to be a
signing series
and went two overs
over at the event
time
oh if you've got
any anxiety
about that
I promise you
right now
that is purely
in your fucking
head right
there's
if you've made a
bad interaction
with a celebrity
I'll fucking call you
I'll be the first
to tell you that
you fucked off
no one Lewis and what you described there nothing absolutely nothing don't overthink Interact with a celebrity I'll fucking call you I'll be the first To tell you that you Fucked off Knowing Lewis
And what you described there
I know it
Nothing
Don't over
Absolutely nothing
Don't overthink that
Not worth thinking about
At all
Like I promise you
Lewis was
As riddled with anxiety
As you were at the time
Would not worry about it
Tim Minchin is really small
He is
That's all I have to add
We met Tim Minchin
At the
At Rockness
There was a little while where
If you googled
Kai Humphrey's wife the picture of me and Tim Mention showed up
Oh
Because you know when
You type your name into google it will prompt you
For what to put next
It prompted wife and then
Me and Tim Mention come up
So I wonder
If anybody thought
That we were married
Me and Minchin
I used to live up the road
From JK Rowling
Surprise surprise
She was a cunt
Oh
I remember one altercation
Altercation
I wouldn't even know
What JK Rowling looked like
You know
I would
I remember one altercation I approached her To tell her what JK Rowling looked like, you know. I would. I remember
one altercation
I approached her
to tell her to pick up
her dog shit.
She said,
I said,
excuse me,
to which she replied
something along the lines
if you want a photo
be quick about it
in a rude,
dismissive,
cunty tone.
You took a picture
of the dog shit.
I replied,
who the fuck are you,
you posh cow,
get your shirt picked up
before I snap your
dog in half.
It wasn't until
we were down
to the
pony park
that one of
the people
in his group
clued me in
on who she
was
snap your
dog in half
it's like a
twig
that's
fucking
funny
that's
great
um
Keanu Reeves met me on princess street fucking hell Keanu Reeves is a shout like he was walking That's fucking funny. That's great.
Keanu Reeves met me on Princess Street.
Fucking hell. Keanu Reeves is a shout like.
He was walking down towards St. James's
outside the record building
and I was hanging out there smoking on my break
and I was just staring at him like no fucking way
someone looks that much like Keanu Reeves.
He gave me a wee smile and head tilt
almost to be like I am who I am
and approached me and asked if I was local.
He was like, not touching kink things were in Edinburgh so I told him
about Dean village and Dean Park for those who don't know it's just part of
Edinburgh where only Dean's live and Mary King's clothes and the botanics and
some other BS I can remember but he was just so fucking normal like the minute
we got into a conversation,
I forgot I was speaking to Neil Wick,
10 out of 10 with me again.
Yeah, I've only heard that he's fucking...
Aye.
He'd be like,
it would be a fucking shockwave
if it turned out that he'd done anything wrong.
Yeah.
I kind of hope he does.
Yeah.
Well, just...
Don't trust anyone.
And not because I want him to be a bad
person or i take any joy in him being a bad person just so you can stop worrying about it
no but i just i there's part of me a really evil part of me that loves when sort of fandoms are
destroyed and they sort of self-immolate.
There's something really,
and this is a horrible thing,
but I never don't enjoy it.
It happened to you.
See whenever,
see whenever a big fat celebrity,
right?
Who's loved for being big and fat decides I'm going to go skinny and look after my health.
And the entire fat community turns about.
I will never not watch
that every single iteration of that
Adele
Rebel Wilson
who by the way is just one of the
least funny people in the
fucking world
excruciating and really shit
to the gay community so I was
really fucking chuffed when she got all the hate
that she got
but I've always just think she's one of the worst in the world Adele I'm like the gay community. So I was really fucking chuffed when she got all the hate that she got.
But I've always just think she's one of the worst in the world.
Adele, I'm like,
Adele didn't deserve the hate
because like fucking Adele's,
Adele's one of the boys.
Adele's a, look,
Adele's a lad, right?
She's obviously a very talented musician
and she's a brilliant woman, right?
But she's one of the boys.
She drinks tinnies, right?
She belts out fucking absolute anthems. Like I would, she's in of the boys. She drinks tinnies, right? She belts out fucking absolute anthems.
Like, I would...
She's in my top five.
If I could drink with her and get drunk...
Where are you getting this info from?
Adele!
It's notorious.
Notorious that Adele's just a fucking...
Just a good boy.
Are you thinking of Lorde?
No.
That's Randy Marsh.
I've never met anyone in the very limited celebrity circles that i'm in
who's met adele and doesn't have a adele is literally just the most down-to-earth
fucking she's just a check that can say does that only happen uh women when uh celebrity
loses weight and the women that follow are like distraught because they've been let down by them
like you know
if Johnny Vegas
stopped drinking
would a lot of
people be like
what the fuck
fuck dude
I was following
you into war
well there was
the big
there was a big
fat bloke
from My Name
is Earl
who gave up
all his fucking
drinking
and he's now
hench hench
I don't think
he got any
hate really
like if Lewis
Capaldi got
ripped
like I don't
think there'd
be any
there wouldn't be
anybody just going
whoa you are our guy
yeah
em
fucking
em
oh come on
fucking Jonah Hill
he fluctuates a bit
uh huh
eh
goes up and down
but he's never really
given hate
for going up and down
um
do you think
that's a society problem and men can do anything without weight and it just goes without batting an eyelid you think that's a society problem
that men can do anything without weight
and it just goes without batting an eyelid
and then there's a media storm
probably nobody's even that bothered
that Adele's lost weight
but the media will just fucking whip people into a frenzy
by just being innately misogynistic
I mean maybe
and there is a thing of like
if a man's fat he can at least be the funny friend
and don't get me wrong there is obviously the old women trope of just being the
fat friend is as well but maybe yeah maybe it is just fucking industry sexism that it's more
acceptable amongst a man um but it doesn't just stay to fucking fat people see if there's nothing
I wish more for there's nothing I pray more for in the world
Than like it to turn out
That like Arsenal legends
Are
Despicable paedophiles
Oh man
I love Terry
Audrey but if it were to
Come out that he were as bad
As Jimmy Savile
I would have
The person who wrote x you are watching
the stuff about thomas part a guy and i hope it sticks i hope it sticks no i just think there's
there's there's something about follow like i remember this moment in here it was really like
fucking like it sticks with us i was doing the blade and races which is a
slight slightly less than 10k like 5.4 miles or something um it's quite a fast run and i was
following this guy because it's quite crowded the streets in newcastle are crowded on this run right
and i'm just following this guy zigzagging in and out of everybody and i'm just on his route
i'm slipstreaming the guy i'm having a fucking tough time because he's fast right but i'm getting through everybody and then
i get like halfway through the run and he just stops me and i'm like the fuck i needed you
you'll get me through this whole thing yeah and then i was on my own running on my own
trying to maintain that pace.
I feel like that's what happens when you're following somebody.
That's a motivation to you,
and then they turn up to leave you behind.
Yeah.
Well, I think that's another fucking,
a big aspect of it for me,
where I was just like,
we've discussed this several times
The fucking reason I despise
That X clip
Going fucking viral every time
Is because it ignores
That one and a half fucking minute clip of X
Ignores the
73 and a half other minutes
Of the show X
Where I talk about what a bag of shit I am
What a bag of shit I am what a bag of
show used to be all of my talks yes if yeah the lad culture like my complicity
my indulgence over all of this other fucking stuff so I miss is that close
to sanctimonious Oh actually being like really confessional all the way through
it oh man that clip was viral and people be like is this your God and I'm like I
should be anyone's fucking God like the whole fucking point of that show is, the whole point of X was to get, man, you don't need to convince women.
You don't need to convince women that sexual assault is men's responsibility.
Not all of the time, but it's at least half.
You don't have to convince women of that fact.
You have to convince men of that.
And if you attack men, they do not fucking listen.
It would be nice if they did,
but they don't.
So you have to bring them on side.
And the worst thing you can do,
the worst thing you could fucking do,
if you want to make sure
that no man is on your fucking team ever,
what you do is you show them another man
and go,
you should be more like him.
And I guarantee you,
every man goes,
who the fuck is that?
That's what you're doing
whenever you make that fucking clip from Mexico viral.
You're playing a fucking target on my back and you're undermining the value of the entire fucking show.
Share the show.
Share the show.
Do not share the clip.
Never share the fucking clip.
But the real one where somebody was running and looking at you and you're the person keeping them in the game was Jigsaw.
I broke up with me missus.
I broke up with me missus. I broke up with me missus.
I broke up with me fella.
Life's going to be better now.
Why are you getting married?
Again.
You're married now, are you?
Again.
Fuck.
Am I going to run this on my own?
People not understanding.
Could not have made my positions more clear on everything.
This is why I'll never understand.
I've said this a couple of times in the past couple of days,
but I want to fucking reiterate it.
I fucking hate, with a passion,
celebrities that say shit like,
I love my fans.
I think that is one of the most toxic outlooks that you can have.
It's a bit of a broad stroke.
I love my fans is I love... I've met some of the best people in I love my fans is I love I've met some of the best people
in the world
from your fans
and I've met some of the
fucking craziest
cunts in the world
I am grateful
for my fans
I am unbelievably
grateful for my fans
I would not have the career
I had today
if it were not
for the people
that have supported me
over the fucking years
I am grateful for my fans
do I love them?
absolutely fucking not
you love some of them daily
some of them ended up at your wedding
Well no those are just friends
Aye they are now
But I started off by enjoying your comedy
Don't fucking make people think
That they can be my friend
No no I'm not
But be friends
I'm not
But like
We have made bonding friendships
With people
Who
Were met at gigs
Yeah
But
Just to reiterate
That part of my life is fucking over do not think
i cannot make it i cannot make it fucking clear enough that if you ever fucking meet me and you're
a fan there is zero chance you and me are ever becoming friends never in a million fucking years
that time of my life that type of my downtime is fucking dead in the water it is not i've got
me pals I've
got no no no
no I'm open to
new fucking
battles I'm not
making them at
fucking stage
door and it's
an awful I
tell him at my
wife not a fan
though she was
at a gig she
wasn't there to
see me she was
there because
comedy was on
I'm grateful for
my fans I care
about a lot of
my fans I wish
my fans well I do not love lot of my fans. I wish my fans well.
I do not love them and I owe them
fuck all.
That's true. You don't need to tell them.
No, I do.
I think it's way more disgusting
for...
No, no, no.
The problem with the word...
Fans are fanatics, right?
Please, if you are a fan of mine get it into your
fucking head, I'm a very boring
angry
flawed person like the fucking rest
of us, if you like what I
do, I'm super fucking grateful
that is what I was going
for but
any ideas of
Perfection or even
Innate goodness
That you see in me is projected from you
You've got to figure it out
Yeah I've no idea what I'm doing
Well not no idea I'm very good at stand up
But that's about it
You're a good dad
Yeah because Cara's there
You're an outright mate I'm okay
I'm an okay friend
That's an outright
Depends on the day, depends what mood I'm in
Bad listener
Bad listener and I wouldn't want to be anyone's inspiration
Like that's the
Like Bad listener. Bad listener. And I wouldn't want to be anyone's inspiration. Like that's the,
like,
I just,
I just don't, I don't know if there's a comedian that I,
there's comedians that I love their stand up,
but I don't think there's a comedian who I look up to as a person.
Is there any comedians that you role model?
Like that you see as role models?
No.
Absolutely fucking not.
Isn't that odd?
Like even comedians that I admire.
Cheat on their wives.
Like even ones that don't.
Like, go on.
Like, I admire Tom Stade.
He doesn't cheat on his wife.
Nope.
Not my role model.
No, absolutely not my role model.
Bill Burr doesn't cheat on his wife.
Admire him.
Not my role model.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not a fucking role model.
Anthony fucking Jeselnik.
Love him.
Think he is...
Oh, Shane Gillis.
The best in the world right now now as far as I'm concerned
love his stuff role model
not even a fucking little
bit Cosby
some of the goats
are flawless
Robin Williams
can I be a role model
No because again
He can't be a role model
He wasn't happy
Yeah and he didn't
Yeah
Didn't get the help he needed
And that's not to blame
That on him by the way
But just
Yeah I don't know
It's hard
Why is there not many
Role models in my craft?
Because the whole point of the craft is to be
Be slightly broken and show them your cracks
Yeah
It's to go in there and to not
It's to be deeply flawed
And to you know
Not pave over the cracks
But to sort of reveal them and find beauty in them
But to make sure that you don't pass those gaping flaws off as you like to acknowledge your flaws and and
and make fun of them but not celebrate them and the idea of being a fan of a
comedian I guess takes it beyond that of I'm going to celebrate these flaws as
opposed to what we all did was let's all point and laugh at the fucking hole
And not put that same
Hole in our own psyche
I want to be someone's role model
I don't
I don't even think I want to be my
Son's role model
I'll do that, I'll be his role model
I'd rather be my son's role model Than you be my son's role model. I'll do that. I'll be his role model. Oh, no, I'll do it. I'd rather be my son's role model than you'd be my son's role model.
I'll be Keira's role model.
That's all right.
That's that fixed.
Right.
I'm going to go and drink more,
to be honest.
So next time you see us,
we'll be in the studio and we'll have seen my partners and we'll be,
we'll be a little bit more joyous.
Thanks for listening.
And thanks for writing in.
Sorry we didn't get all of the messages.
Yeah.