Sloss and Humphries On The Road - Shark Narc (Ft. Elliot & Mark Steel)
Episode Date: October 23, 2024Elliot's father and esteemed legend of comedy Mark Steel joins the podcast as he's thrust into continuing a story he'd started off air about an incident with a cottage pie. We get to hear all of the p...roblems Elliot had at school and found out exactly how he came to be the way he is, and not a member of the SAS.
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                                         Sloss and Humphries on the road!
                                         
                                         Muggins and cream, cream and muggins, straight thuggin', livin' the dream
                                         
                                         That's our intro
                                         
                                         Fuckin' muggles!
                                         
                                         Tickling the clit inside your head that makes you laugh
                                         
                                         They said it can't be done!
                                         
                                         Are we in the same seats?
                                         
                                         That's hack
                                         
    
                                         Ah, muggles!
                                         
                                         Accidental rim job in the park
                                         
                                         Kiss kiss kiss
                                         
                                         Or am I just being cynical?
                                         
                                         Just muggled it up on fuckin' Mugglepedia
                                         
                                         Where have you been since 9-11?
                                         
                                         All right, here we go.
                                         
                                         Go on, we're about to hear the most amazing story ever.
                                         
    
                                         Go on.
                                         
                                         Someone made a cottage pie.
                                         
                                         Mark, you're obviously enlightening us.
                                         
                                         Well, it wasn't a story that I was intending to tell on a podcast.
                                         
                                         No, but it was a story.
                                         
                                         He's got to do a nine-hour drive.
                                         
                                         A nine-hour drive, Mark.
                                         
                                         We've set up the podcast, but you're about to tell us the worst story ever.
                                         
    
                                         So go on.
                                         
                                         This is the introduction of the podcast.
                                         
                                         Welcome to Sloss and Humphries on the Road.
                                         
                                         I've got Mark Steele and Elliot Steele.
                                         
                                         First of all, gentlemen, thank you.
                                         
                                         Thank you for welcoming me into your home.
                                         
                                         I'm doing an intro, Mark.
                                         
                                         I'm doing an intro.
                                         
    
                                         No one's going to get a word.
                                         
                                         I've interrupted the interruption.
                                         
                                         Go on, then.
                                         
                                         Go on.
                                         
                                         Thank you for welcoming me into your home.
                                         
                                         Thank you.
                                         
                                         Speaking to the mic for fuck's sake.
                                         
                                         Shut up.
                                         
    
                                         I've done that to a fucking broadcast sake this podcast is going to be a
                                         
                                         little bit different folks we've got a family on we're going to settle some feuds um yeah thanks
                                         
                                         for letting me turn your kitchen into a studio and thanks for joining me on the podcast but you
                                         
                                         were about to tell an amazing story about a cottage pie that i'm sure our listeners would love to hear
                                         
                                         you started telling the story and we were
                                         
                                         sorry
                                         
                                         this last night
                                         
                                         you give
                                         
    
                                         you do this with stories
                                         
                                         you give five minutes
                                         
                                         of unnecessary detail
                                         
                                         that doesn't need
                                         
                                         to be there
                                         
                                         the story started with
                                         
                                         I was on a beach
                                         
                                         then someone texted me
                                         
    
                                         to come over
                                         
                                         then they made a cottage pie
                                         
                                         then we played a game
                                         
                                         I think that's mean though
                                         
                                         that's the colour
                                         
                                         of a story isn't it
                                         
                                         the colour of the story
                                         
                                         is the little bit
                                         
    
                                         yeah alright
                                         
                                         so Elliot still tells the story of the Second World War.
                                         
                                         Bloke gets angry, invades Poland,
                                         
                                         everybody tells him to fuck off,
                                         
                                         he bombs Japan, America joins in, the end.
                                         
                                         That's it.
                                         
                                         I think the compromised gentleman
                                         
                                         would be somewhere in the middle.
                                         
    
                                         Firstly, how dare you say that this story
                                         
                                         was as interesting as World War II?
                                         
                                         Well, you don't know, do you?
                                         
                                         Because you've not heard it.
                                         
                                         Finish the story.
                                         
                                         So, right, he makes the cottage pie.
                                         
                                         Bloke comes round, knocks on the door and says,
                                         
                                         yeah, I'm hungry.
                                         
    
                                         And he has a bit of the cottage pie.
                                         
                                         It turns out it was actually Himmler who escaped from Hitler's bunker.
                                         
                                         And anyway.
                                         
                                         What's the actual end to the story?
                                         
                                         The story is that I chased him all the way to Argentina
                                         
                                         to where he's been living.
                                         
                                         What's the actual end to the story?
                                         
                                         I'm not telling you.
                                         
    
                                         I prefer this World War II Hot Pot story.
                                         
                                         Hot Pot was it.
                                         
                                         It's how it's moved from Hot Pot. I'm not telling you. It wasn't Hot Pot was it it's a move from Hot Pot
                                         
                                         I'm not telling you
                                         
                                         it wasn't a story
                                         
                                         intended to be
                                         
                                         on a podcast
                                         
                                         you know
                                         
    
                                         it's like
                                         
                                         it's like
                                         
                                         if Tom Cruise
                                         
                                         is telling a story
                                         
                                         about someone
                                         
                                         he met up the bakers
                                         
                                         you wouldn't then
                                         
                                         expect to sell
                                         
    
                                         the same story
                                         
                                         on the Graham Norton show
                                         
                                         would you
                                         
                                         you hit record
                                         
                                         and the later on
                                         
                                         and you're like
                                         
                                         oh this story's just
                                         
                                         small talk isn't it?
                                         
    
                                         I'm selling my small talk
                                         
                                         to strangers now.
                                         
                                         Tom Cruise,
                                         
                                         if he walks onto the set
                                         
                                         of the Graham Norton show
                                         
                                         just as they're about
                                         
                                         to record the Graham Norton show
                                         
                                         and goes,
                                         
    
                                         oh,
                                         
                                         let me tell you
                                         
                                         what happened to me
                                         
                                         the other day
                                         
                                         and everyone was like,
                                         
                                         everyone was like,
                                         
                                         well,
                                         
                                         actually Tom,
                                         
    
                                         we were about to start
                                         
                                         the thing before,
                                         
                                         everyone's here
                                         
                                         like set up and got everything going and then you just stand and go, oh, by the way, everyone's everyone's here like set up
                                         
                                         and got everything
                                         
                                         going and then
                                         
                                         you just stand
                                         
                                         there going
                                         
    
                                         oh by the way
                                         
                                         here's something
                                         
                                         I want to know
                                         
                                         about the bacon
                                         
                                         so Mark
                                         
                                         yeah this is what
                                         
                                         I'm going to propose
                                         
                                         right you say it's
                                         
    
                                         not a podcast
                                         
                                         worthy story
                                         
                                         but we've click baited
                                         
                                         them now
                                         
                                         there's a hot pot
                                         
                                         story that was
                                         
                                         about to be told
                                         
                                         before we hit record
                                         
    
                                         and now we've
                                         
                                         teased them with it
                                         
                                         and you're a
                                         
                                         remarkable storyteller
                                         
                                         I reckon you go for it and and don't let Elliot interrupt.
                                         
                                         Just tell us the story about the cottage pie.
                                         
                                         From the top.
                                         
                                         Well, it's not a very cheery story, so you know when you're sort of,
                                         
    
                                         right, if you've ever been round at someone's house,
                                         
                                         and there's a family, and you're the only person there who isn't part of the family?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I've been there before, yes.
                                         
                                         No, but there isn't just, you're not allowed to interrupt.
                                         
                                         You're not just with two people from the family.
                                         
                                         you're not just with two people from the family you're with maybe uh with a couple and with an assortment of son all the sons and daughters that have come from various incognito couples
                                         
                                         there's maybe seven people there eight people eight people there of which i was the only one
                                         
                                         who wasn't part of the actual family but they're all lovely and i'll get on with all you just feel
                                         
    
                                         like the delivery guy at that point yes a little bit and then it's decided that there's going to be a game a sort of a game the details of which
                                         
                                         don't matter but it involved writing five famous people on a bit of paper and heads up a hat all
                                         
                                         of that sort of thing and then you have to tell describe the person in three words to other people in your team or something like that.
                                         
                                         And one of the people who was one of the older generation there, I thought very much like with my famous people, don't put people that are famous to you from 1973.
                                         
                                         Don't put Huey Green because all the young people there won't know who that is
                                         
                                         so I thought oh is it that you know everyone will know but this other person didn't and they put
                                         
                                         a series of people that you would not know unless you were at least 45 and most of the people there
                                         
                                         weren't 45 and the family started arguing
                                         
    
                                         and he dug his
                                         
                                         heels in
                                         
                                         and they start
                                         
                                         and then you know
                                         
                                         when it gets to a
                                         
                                         point where you
                                         
                                         think oh this
                                         
                                         is this still
                                         
    
                                         funny
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         is this what
                                         
                                         they're always like
                                         
                                         and then
                                         
                                         yeah and then
                                         
                                         one or two people
                                         
                                         are going
                                         
    
                                         why don't you
                                         
                                         just shut it
                                         
                                         why don't you
                                         
                                         just shut up
                                         
                                         right
                                         
                                         just shut up
                                         
                                         and just get on
                                         
                                         with the game
                                         
    
                                         and then you think right well, well, at this point,
                                         
                                         can the older person go, okay, maybe,
                                         
                                         but instead he digs his heels in more.
                                         
                                         Why are you always like this?
                                         
                                         I'm always like this.
                                         
                                         And it was absolute pandemonium.
                                         
                                         And you're not sure whether or not the best thing to do is to go,
                                         
                                         I'm going to just, I'm go actually i'm gonna well it was later
                                         
    
                                         than i think but you sort of think that might make it worse how did you end up with this family party
                                         
                                         anyway mark because there was a cottage pie there when the cottage pie was going to come into this
                                         
                                         so you got baited in where you're walking past and you just like drifted off your feet like one
                                         
                                         of the looney tunes cartoons where the skunk follows the scent of the pie
                                         
                                         and he's letting
                                         
                                         this family home
                                         
                                         by cottage pie
                                         
                                         it was cooling down
                                         
    
                                         on the windowsill
                                         
                                         yeah yeah
                                         
                                         is this the same family
                                         
                                         that one time
                                         
                                         you went round
                                         
                                         they asked you over
                                         
                                         for a drink
                                         
                                         and then someone
                                         
    
                                         turned up and started
                                         
                                         saying Hitler was right
                                         
                                         for killing all the Jews
                                         
                                         no you don't go back
                                         
                                         to that party
                                         
                                         you would never have
                                         
                                         went back for a game
                                         
                                         of heads up
                                         
    
                                         well he fucking did
                                         
                                         he's gone back
                                         
                                         Jewish man loves
                                         
                                         a cottage pie
                                         
                                         fool me once
                                         
                                         that was a different
                                         
                                         person but yes
                                         
                                         it was at the same
                                         
    
                                         house
                                         
                                         yes
                                         
                                         was he like trying
                                         
                                         to do a bit like
                                         
                                         oh he was right
                                         
                                         but he went after
                                         
                                         the wrong people
                                         
                                         it should have been
                                         
    
                                         Ned and Chavs
                                         
                                         no he was
                                         
                                         he was
                                         
                                         no it's just very
                                         
                                         towards about
                                         
                                         six foot nine
                                         
                                         sort of Australian guy
                                         
                                         oh well there you go
                                         
    
                                         and
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         I think I know who it is
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         you mentioned
                                         
                                         oh god this is going out
                                         
                                         this is going to finish me
                                         
                                         right Zoe
                                         
    
                                         this is
                                         
                                         it's going to end up
                                         
                                         in Pascal's book
                                         
                                         just just on that
                                         
                                         you know I gigged with her
                                         
                                         a while ago right
                                         
                                         oh yeah
                                         
                                         me too
                                         
    
                                         but I just managed
                                         
                                         to not have a conversation
                                         
                                         we like
                                         
                                         I was in the group
                                         
                                         and everyone's like
                                         
                                         yeah what did you do
                                         
                                         and I was like
                                         
                                         I'll tell you what I did
                                         
    
                                         got a lovely photo
                                         
                                         with her from the comedy store
                                         
                                         in a green room
                                         
                                         that's gone out
                                         
                                         and looked like
                                         
                                         there's no problem whatsoever
                                         
                                         she was perfectly lovely
                                         
                                         yeah of course it was me keyboard warrior with a book room that's gone out and looked like there's no problem whatsoever. She was perfectly lovely.
                                         
    
                                         Keyboard warrior with a book.
                                         
                                         Steve Hughes was at the party.
                                         
                                         It wasn't anyone
                                         
                                         known to the comedy world.
                                         
                                         It's a
                                         
                                         big tall bloke who lives near here.
                                         
                                         Yeah, and I talked to him too
                                         
                                         very often. He's super nice. And then he
                                         
    
                                         just went, we were talking about
                                         
                                         something that had
                                         
                                         happened in Israel
                                         
                                         Israel
                                         
                                         it was
                                         
                                         pretty horrible
                                         
                                         what had they done
                                         
                                         well one or two things
                                         
    
                                         you know
                                         
                                         you wouldn't
                                         
                                         that you would hope
                                         
                                         if you went round
                                         
                                         to someone's party
                                         
                                         you would hope
                                         
                                         that they didn't do this
                                         
                                         in the middle of the
                                         
    
                                         I went round
                                         
                                         for a cottage pie
                                         
                                         and they
                                         
                                         second cottage pie story
                                         
                                         they ended up
                                         
                                         bombing a hospital saying they had to because there was
                                         
                                         someone living underneath it uh no there was and then he said it makes you think you know the jews
                                         
                                         they always do these things i don't know why they were so hated by the germans and there must have
                                         
    
                                         been a reason for it and i i went mate mate, no, you can't have that.
                                         
                                         And then he went, I'm just being devil's advocate.
                                         
                                         Devil's advocate?
                                         
                                         About fucking justifying a holocaust?
                                         
                                         About the holocaust?
                                         
                                         You're devil's advocate?
                                         
                                         No, no, I hate that was devil's advocate.
                                         
                                         Like that's what I was taking, man.
                                         
    
                                         They needed a devil's advocate. They needed a devil's advocate.
                                         
                                         They needed a devil's advocate in the final solution to go,
                                         
                                         what if we don't do this?
                                         
                                         That's where devil's advocate should have been.
                                         
                                         And go, wait, we're doing what?
                                         
                                         Nah.
                                         
                                         Question this, bro.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         But that's the same house.
                                         
                                         So which of these people, the family that feuded,
                                         
                                         the Australian anti-Semite, which had the best hotpot?
                                         
                                         I don't know why I keep saying hotpot instead of country pie.
                                         
                                         What was the more awkward one, the family argument or the Holocaust denial?
                                         
                                         Because I think the family argument would be more awkward.
                                         
                                         Well, the Holocaust denial...
                                         
                                         It is more awkward.
                                         
    
                                         It is the Holocaust denial.
                                         
                                         You can just tell him to fuck off.
                                         
                                         It wasn't a Holocaust denial.
                                         
                                         He was a Holocaust defender.
                                         
                                         Okay, right.
                                         
                                         So you can tell him to fuck off.
                                         
                                         You can tell him your figure is fundamentally wrong
                                         
                                         and that we'll morally disagree, and it's not uncomfortable to say that exactly whereas
                                         
    
                                         like you have to tiptoe on eggshells around the family feud about heads up that's absolutely it
                                         
                                         quite in a nutshell yeah it was it but it's but they're not you know they're all i don't dislike
                                         
                                         any of them they're brilliant and i've been but they you know a family feud is not a thing to
                                         
                                         when you're the one when you're the one person there
                                         
                                         that isn't part
                                         
                                         of the family
                                         
                                         and you're sort of
                                         
                                         we just need to watch
                                         
    
                                         the first three minutes
                                         
                                         of this podcast
                                         
                                         I think that game
                                         
                                         is designed though
                                         
                                         for family feuds
                                         
                                         I remember
                                         
                                         playing that
                                         
                                         with a group of friends
                                         
    
                                         and just falling out
                                         
                                         with Natalie
                                         
                                         because she couldn't
                                         
                                         guess Mike Tyson
                                         
                                         and I was like
                                         
                                         box eye
                                         
                                         was in the hangover
                                         
                                         tattoo on his face
                                         
    
                                         and I ended up
                                         
                                         just going one of the most famous people in the world just start naming the most famous people in the hangover tattoo on his face like uh and i ended up just
                                         
                                         going like one of the most famous people in the world just say just start naming the most famous
                                         
                                         people in the world and you'll get there i was there i was there for it who's the villain in
                                         
                                         teenage mutant ninja turtles splinter no no shredder shredder shredder right and they pulled
                                         
                                         a face so good like it was like we were like on, is their group cheating? And Kirsty pulled a face, and Natalie then said it.
                                         
                                         And we went, how the fuck did you get that niche reference?
                                         
                                         That is because the way the game's played properly is you describe deeply the names that you're talking about.
                                         
    
                                         So when somebody out of touch puts a 1940s reference in, right,
                                         
                                         and the young people don't know who it is,
                                         
                                         they hear you describe it to somebody else and then click on that that description goes with that name and if like if the shredder ones like he's got a mask on
                                         
                                         his face right he's got he's got a mask on his face he fights against the turtles right and then
                                         
                                         later on kirsty's never watched the turtles in her life but she goes mask on her face and looks at
                                         
                                         natalie and they're like oh that sounds like the shredder guy that was being described before so
                                         
                                         you pick it up so the names come up before yeah so you have to do one a description one a mime yeah one one in description one in
                                         
                                         one word and then one in mime so by the third round everybody knows the names of all the people
                                         
    
                                         even the ones that they didn't know so you know the youtuber even though you're 76 yes yeah but
                                         
                                         that's not what happened on this one because we were doing mime and that happened and we were like
                                         
                                         get absolute
                                         
                                         and it caught
                                         
                                         but yeah I was there
                                         
                                         for the Mike Tyson incident
                                         
                                         which to be fair
                                         
                                         you were in the wrong one
                                         
    
                                         like
                                         
                                         your poor wife
                                         
                                         she was like
                                         
                                         she was six glasses of wine deep
                                         
                                         she couldn't really give a fuck
                                         
                                         about the game anymore
                                         
                                         and you were just going
                                         
                                         one of the most famous people
                                         
    
                                         in the world
                                         
                                         say it
                                         
                                         just say famous people
                                         
                                         and she's there
                                         
                                         she's there
                                         
                                         like a bubble
                                         
                                         Jesus
                                         
                                         she's there
                                         
    
                                         Genghis Khan
                                         
                                         no
                                         
                                         no but I had went through
                                         
                                         a bit off of
                                         
                                         Vanderfield
                                         
                                         Vanderhollyfield's ear
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         but she's not gonna know that
                                         
    
                                         like
                                         
                                         Mike Tyson
                                         
                                         is it
                                         
                                         Mike Tyson's
                                         
                                         just saying anything
                                         
                                         other than he's black
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         I want a sign of a friend I think bit off to ask Mike Tyson is, Mike Tyson's are, just saying anything other than he's black. Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         Why didn't you just say that?
                                         
                                         I think,
                                         
                                         bit of my,
                                         
                                         to us,
                                         
                                         because we follow sport all the time,
                                         
                                         bit of my,
                                         
                                         bit of Evander Holofid's here is,
                                         
                                         is so obvious.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah,
                                         
                                         yeah,
                                         
                                         that's in the public's eye guys,
                                         
                                         isn't it?
                                         
                                         Yeah,
                                         
                                         it's in the public's eye guys,
                                         
                                         but not, not to,
                                         
                                         not to like Natalie.
                                         
    
                                         It's like,
                                         
                                         it's like the same way if like,
                                         
                                         you know,
                                         
                                         someone who's like 21 or 22 would like to like a,ts like a k-pop band or something that's really popular oh yeah like
                                         
                                         or if someone was to go on about uh like if someone was to say to my dad ksi yeah it's it
                                         
                                         i'm aware that that person exists i couldn't tell you what he looks like i couldn't describe him in
                                         
                                         a game of heads up yeah you know you know, it's so very few,
                                         
                                         but like to some people it's just not.
                                         
    
                                         And that's where you're like,
                                         
                                         how the fuck do you not know this?
                                         
                                         Yeah, I think I'd be playing that game
                                         
                                         like something about prime drink.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         It's interesting because now
                                         
                                         that would be much more the case
                                         
                                         than say 40, 50 years ago,
                                         
    
                                         because 40, 50 years ago,
                                         
                                         if someone was on the telly,
                                         
                                         even if you weren't particularly interested.
                                         
                                         Everybody knows who Jasper Carrot is.
                                         
                                         Everybody knows, exactly. Everyone knew who Jasper Coward is. Everybody knows, exactly.
                                         
                                         Everyone knew who Jasper Coward is.
                                         
                                         And now, so with comedy,
                                         
                                         there will be, there are comics
                                         
    
                                         who can fill the alb-all
                                         
                                         who we won't have heard of
                                         
                                         because they'll be the niche,
                                         
                                         they'll be the canoeing comic.
                                         
                                         And all the canoeists,
                                         
                                         everyone who's got a canoe
                                         
                                         goes to see this famous canoeing.
                                         
                                         Yeah, there's subculture.
                                         
    
                                         There's subcultures that are massive. Like I'd say D&D is a subculture the subcultures
                                         
                                         that are massive
                                         
                                         like I'd say
                                         
                                         D&D is a subculture
                                         
                                         but that's fucking huge
                                         
                                         oh dude
                                         
                                         when I went to see
                                         
                                         Danny
                                         
    
                                         oh my god
                                         
                                         at Wembley
                                         
                                         do you know
                                         
                                         Critical Role
                                         
                                         yeah so I went to see
                                         
                                         Critical Role
                                         
                                         I'll tell you about this
                                         
                                         the D&D people
                                         
    
                                         it was amazing
                                         
                                         you look a bit like
                                         
                                         confused at what
                                         
                                         D&D is
                                         
                                         you know what
                                         
                                         D&D is
                                         
                                         Dungeons and Dragons
                                         
                                         it's a story it's a storytelling game it's like D&D is Dungeons and Dragons it's a storytelling
                                         
    
                                         game
                                         
                                         it's like
                                         
                                         yeah I know what
                                         
                                         Dungeons and Dragons
                                         
                                         is
                                         
                                         D&D
                                         
                                         you build a story
                                         
                                         as a team
                                         
    
                                         and you suggest
                                         
                                         what the story
                                         
                                         is going to be like
                                         
                                         and then you roll
                                         
                                         dice to see if
                                         
                                         it goes your way
                                         
                                         or not
                                         
                                         and then the
                                         
    
                                         dungeon master
                                         
                                         tells the story
                                         
                                         in that direction
                                         
                                         gets you into
                                         
                                         trouble
                                         
                                         and then you
                                         
                                         try to roll
                                         
                                         your way out
                                         
    
                                         of it with
                                         
                                         storytelling
                                         
                                         and dice
                                         
                                         it's a lot of fun
                                         
                                         and you can immerse
                                         
                                         yourself in it as much as you want you can get fully into character you can just it with storytelling and dice it's a lot of fun and you can immerse yourself in it
                                         
                                         as much as you want
                                         
                                         you can get fully
                                         
    
                                         into character
                                         
                                         you can just talk
                                         
                                         through what's happening
                                         
                                         it's a fun game
                                         
                                         and it's great to play
                                         
                                         with comics
                                         
                                         because they're creative
                                         
                                         people
                                         
    
                                         the critical role
                                         
                                         they sold out
                                         
                                         I think they sold out
                                         
                                         Wembley in like
                                         
                                         14 minutes or something
                                         
                                         but they're voice actors
                                         
                                         they're really good
                                         
                                         voice actors as well
                                         
    
                                         they're very good
                                         
                                         and they really get
                                         
                                         into the character
                                         
                                         but they'll be funny
                                         
                                         but they'll also be
                                         
                                         very sincere when they're playing the character so you do watch it
                                         
                                         it was four and a half hours long it was fucking ridiculous i left before the end
                                         
                                         uh and that would have been like part of a massive campaign that would have been like episode 20 or
                                         
    
                                         50 or something yeah yeah they're huge and uh i got like i got a bit stoned while i was there
                                         
                                         and i was walking because at first like you turn up to wembley it's really funny everyone comes
                                         
                                         dressed as their characters as people walking around
                                         
                                         as orcs and stuff
                                         
                                         you're like what fucking losers
                                         
                                         and then you go
                                         
                                         hold on a sec
                                         
                                         this is the exact same
                                         
    
                                         as a 40 year old dude
                                         
                                         turning up with Harland
                                         
                                         on the back of his shirt
                                         
                                         this is the exact
                                         
                                         I was like
                                         
                                         it's exactly the same
                                         
                                         as being in a football dish
                                         
                                         it's just nicer
                                         
    
                                         they were just well behaved
                                         
                                         there was no problems
                                         
                                         it was a lot nicer
                                         
                                         there was no hooliganism
                                         
                                         no hooliganism
                                         
                                         you didn't have the wizards
                                         
                                         fighting against the warlocks
                                         
                                         in the car park afterwards.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Taking the warlock in.
                                         
                                         No one going viral
                                         
                                         because they sung
                                         
                                         an offensive song
                                         
                                         about the great
                                         
                                         warlock disaster.
                                         
                                         It was like
                                         
    
                                         everyone was just,
                                         
                                         no one using tragedy
                                         
                                         as a fucking,
                                         
                                         as like,
                                         
                                         do you know what I mean?
                                         
                                         It was just lovely people
                                         
                                         getting on with each other
                                         
                                         the police weren't
                                         
    
                                         kettling all the wrongs
                                         
                                         down one street
                                         
                                         holding all the warriors
                                         
                                         in the stadium
                                         
                                         until everybody else
                                         
                                         had cleared out
                                         
                                         somebody
                                         
                                         somebody throwing
                                         
    
                                         somebody throwing
                                         
                                         like an apple
                                         
                                         at an elf
                                         
                                         because that's what
                                         
                                         they're known for
                                         
                                         that was their racism yeah that was their that was their lifetime ban an apple at an elf because that's what they're known for.
                                         
                                         That was their racism.
                                         
                                         One of the elves rolled out a natural one
                                         
    
                                         and got a load of DMs
                                         
                                         the next day.
                                         
                                         DM was such a difficult
                                         
                                         acronym to use
                                         
                                         in that situation
                                         
                                         because it means
                                         
                                         direct message
                                         
                                         and dungeon master.
                                         
    
                                         Oh, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         Well, you're a nightmare to a world I don't i can semi-play i'd still have to like sometimes there's a rules told to me one guy it's a lot of fun we played it during lockdown
                                         
                                         over zoom and uh it was really fun and then if we'd filmed that if we'd filmed that would have
                                         
                                         gone viral and then that yeah it was a it was a good time and the the restrictions lightened and there was this
                                         
                                         board game shop
                                         
                                         in East London
                                         
                                         that reopened
                                         
                                         and the people
                                         
    
                                         me, you, Tom and Daniel
                                         
                                         who had been
                                         
                                         playing on Zoom
                                         
                                         went to do the final
                                         
                                         part of this campaign
                                         
                                         in a comic book shop
                                         
                                         or whatever it was
                                         
                                         board game shop
                                         
    
                                         played for about
                                         
                                         three, four hours
                                         
                                         didn't we
                                         
                                         and there was people
                                         
                                         in there like
                                         
                                         not everybody in there
                                         
                                         was playing games
                                         
                                         a lot of people
                                         
    
                                         were just using it
                                         
                                         for the internet hotspot
                                         
                                         and using it as a cafe to get their work done
                                         
                                         and get out of the house to get their work done and shit.
                                         
                                         And we were just fucking like making a scene.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         We were like screaming,
                                         
                                         we were like celebrating some stuff like goals had won.
                                         
    
                                         We never worked well as a team.
                                         
                                         There was bits where we were like stood up,
                                         
                                         like holding our hair
                                         
                                         because we didn't know what was going to happen.
                                         
                                         Like we got really suspenseful with it.
                                         
                                         I was, I think I was the, what is it?
                                         
                                         Tom got downed by,
                                         
                                         he used his final thing to revive
                                         
    
                                         me because i was close to the medusa and then i i had like one final shot if i fucked this shot up
                                         
                                         it was her turn again and you were on like no health i was on no health would have all been
                                         
                                         dead and then i managed i threw the dice hit and like i hit like quite a bit and you have to wait
                                         
                                         to find out if you've done enough and then she died
                                         
                                         and we were fucking mental.
                                         
                                         I felt like there's people near
                                         
                                         where I invested in the game at that point
                                         
                                         because they've like eavesdropped a lot of it.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, it's a game you move it.
                                         
                                         So that,
                                         
                                         your equivalent of like
                                         
                                         you needed to chip it in off the green.
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         It was as well
                                         
                                         because you have so much time
                                         
    
                                         like invested in it and stuff.
                                         
                                         I was trying to tell Lottie about it one time.
                                         
                                         It's hard to explain to people that don't care.
                                         
                                         Yeah, but not just that.
                                         
                                         She's like, do you do voices?
                                         
                                         And I'm like, well, sometimes there's some voices.
                                         
                                         Kerry Marks is good with the voices.
                                         
                                         He would do voices.
                                         
    
                                         She's like, how do you like,
                                         
                                         how have I seen you like some guy
                                         
                                         trying to like
                                         
                                         start on her
                                         
                                         and I'll shoot one time
                                         
                                         and I went to deal with it
                                         
                                         and she's like
                                         
                                         how do you do that
                                         
    
                                         and that
                                         
                                         I'm like the crossover
                                         
                                         you find everyone
                                         
                                         I was talking to
                                         
                                         Paul Craig one time
                                         
                                         you know
                                         
                                         he was about to fight
                                         
                                         at Madison Square Garden
                                         
    
                                         against Bo Nickel
                                         
                                         I was doing a show
                                         
                                         with him
                                         
                                         I was chatting to him
                                         
                                         right
                                         
                                         big UFC fighter
                                         
                                         he's really good
                                         
                                         he's ranked like ninth in his division he's a really good fighter and I was chatting to him about a big UFC fighter but he's really good he's ranked like ninth
                                         
    
                                         in his division
                                         
                                         he's a really good fighter
                                         
                                         and I was talking to him
                                         
                                         about D&D
                                         
                                         and like he lives in Glasgow
                                         
                                         he was like
                                         
                                         I'd love to come over
                                         
                                         to the Schlosses one time
                                         
    
                                         and play D&D
                                         
                                         oh yeah
                                         
                                         he was into that
                                         
                                         yeah well people do
                                         
                                         I bet you know
                                         
                                         probably Rocky Marciano
                                         
                                         or something
                                         
                                         probably had a rubber duck
                                         
    
                                         in his bar
                                         
                                         well Henry Carville
                                         
                                         loves Warhammer 40K,
                                         
                                         which I've been learning the lore of.
                                         
                                         I'm never going to play it because it's just too much time.
                                         
                                         But you know what?
                                         
                                         Mike Tyson.
                                         
                                         Who?
                                         
    
                                         I've never heard of him.
                                         
                                         Mike Tyson probably had a lovely,
                                         
                                         he probably had a nice collection of butterflies
                                         
                                         and then another collection of ears.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         He collects pigeons.
                                         
                                         Very south of the land
                                         
                                         he collects pigeons
                                         
    
                                         he has a pigeon farm
                                         
                                         oh does he
                                         
                                         yeah I watch his podcast
                                         
                                         he farms pigeons
                                         
                                         yeah he just loves
                                         
                                         pigeons and stuff
                                         
                                         I guess a lot
                                         
                                         a lot of allotments
                                         
    
                                         around like
                                         
                                         Blythe and Ashton
                                         
                                         and that have like
                                         
                                         pigeons and shit
                                         
                                         they used to race them
                                         
                                         I don't know if they do anymore
                                         
                                         but they used to race pigeons a lot
                                         
                                         yeah yeah
                                         
    
                                         that was a thing wasn't it
                                         
                                         but that's the thing
                                         
                                         you know when you're like
                                         
                                         we were talking about
                                         
                                         earlier today
                                         
                                         about some people
                                         
                                         just dismiss a thing that they're not into like football or the thing, you know, when you're like, we were talking about earlier today about some people just dismiss a thing
                                         
                                         that they're not into
                                         
    
                                         like football,
                                         
                                         ding and ding.
                                         
                                         They've just made
                                         
                                         a blanket decision.
                                         
                                         But the thing is like,
                                         
                                         you're not letting yourself
                                         
                                         enjoy that,
                                         
                                         but you can't deny
                                         
    
                                         that people are enjoying that.
                                         
                                         People do it
                                         
                                         because it's good.
                                         
                                         Now,
                                         
                                         you've hit on a thing here.
                                         
                                         This makes me so cross.
                                         
                                         This is when someone says
                                         
                                         that is boring.
                                         
    
                                         Cricket,
                                         
                                         sewing.
                                         
                                         Why do you follow that?
                                         
                                         That is boring.
                                         
                                         I thought knitting was boring
                                         
                                         and then I gave it a go
                                         
                                         and I'm fucking fascinated by knitting.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         It's fucking class.
                                         
                                         So, because if you say that is boring
                                         
                                         rather than I don't get that
                                         
                                         or that isn't my cup of tea.
                                         
                                         I don't understand it.
                                         
                                         I don't understand it.
                                         
                                         Because that's putting it on yourself
                                         
                                         rather than the thing.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah, yeah, exactly.
                                         
                                         I mean, fishing to me, I don't think it will ever be a thing i'm gonna
                                         
                                         be particularly interested in but i can see why people would be but if you say fishing is boring
                                         
                                         you're making yourself god deciding what is it and also then you're you're determining that
                                         
                                         everybody who follows this thing is an idiot
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         they've been fooled
                                         
                                         and they're pretending
                                         
    
                                         they're like
                                         
                                         I think those people
                                         
                                         whisky's disgusting
                                         
                                         whisky's disgusting
                                         
                                         yeah yeah yeah
                                         
                                         exactly
                                         
                                         exactly
                                         
                                         so
                                         
    
                                         you're all wrong
                                         
                                         and
                                         
                                         I
                                         
                                         I cannot
                                         
                                         I think they need to be punished
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         that's pretty much
                                         
                                         Daniel's role on this podcast
                                         
    
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         when he's on the podcast.
                                         
                                         They should be punished.
                                         
                                         No, no, it's just like writing something off
                                         
                                         because he doesn't like it.
                                         
                                         But then again, he does change his tune over time.
                                         
                                         Well, he tapped out of football, didn't he?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
    
                                         He was there, but we're saying this.
                                         
                                         He was never really into it.
                                         
                                         I think it's hard to be fully invested in football
                                         
                                         if the team doesn't have an actual connection to you.
                                         
                                         Like, he's Scottish and supports Chelsea.
                                         
                                         And then if Chelsea start doing bad,
                                         
                                         like why does he have to hang around?
                                         
                                         It's like he chose a team when he was nine.
                                         
    
                                         Whereas like I've like got a feeling for Newcastle.
                                         
                                         It's like intertwining you guys with Crystal Palace.
                                         
                                         It's intertwining who you are.
                                         
                                         I backed off my love of Crystal.
                                         
                                         With football, it was after England lost to Italy in the final.
                                         
                                         I went, I can't let this
                                         
                                         dictate my happiness
                                         
                                         anymore
                                         
    
                                         like even during
                                         
                                         the Euros
                                         
                                         when we were
                                         
                                         losing to Slovakia
                                         
                                         and before Bellingham
                                         
                                         scored the overhead kick
                                         
                                         I went to you
                                         
                                         in the group
                                         
    
                                         I went
                                         
                                         this is funny
                                         
                                         like objectively
                                         
                                         this is hilarious
                                         
                                         it's annoying
                                         
                                         that it's happening
                                         
                                         to me
                                         
                                         but I can't
                                         
    
                                         not
                                         
                                         I'm not going to
                                         
                                         let this wind me up this has to be funny and I now have that with Crystal Palace where I'm like I can't not I'm not going to let this wind me up
                                         
                                         this has to be funny
                                         
                                         and I now have that
                                         
                                         with Crystal Palace
                                         
                                         where I'm like
                                         
                                         I don't let football
                                         
    
                                         dictate my mood anymore
                                         
                                         so when we lost to Spain
                                         
                                         in the final this time
                                         
                                         I went with my mates
                                         
                                         and we just went
                                         
                                         and got a couple
                                         
                                         of cocktails after
                                         
                                         and we had a really nice night
                                         
    
                                         and I just saw it
                                         
                                         as a nice night out
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         there's a lot more
                                         
                                         surrounding football
                                         
                                         than just your own
                                         
                                         team's success
                                         
                                         the way I started enjoying
                                         
    
                                         because obviously
                                         
                                         Newcastle went through
                                         
                                         a rough patch
                                         
                                         for about 14 years
                                         
                                         and that was really
                                         
                                         hard for me
                                         
                                         because I couldn't
                                         
                                         get my head
                                         
    
                                         I only wanted to
                                         
                                         watch the Newcastle
                                         
                                         games
                                         
                                         I didn't care
                                         
                                         about anything else
                                         
                                         and the Newcastle
                                         
                                         games were shit
                                         
                                         it was like
                                         
    
                                         fucking good
                                         
                                         going to the stadium
                                         
                                         was like
                                         
                                         the day I chose
                                         
                                         at times
                                         
                                         during that time
                                         
                                         right
                                         
                                         that's when you're
                                         
    
                                         an actual fan
                                         
                                         that's what being
                                         
                                         a football fan is
                                         
                                         when you went
                                         
                                         to the third division.
                                         
                                         No, no, that would have been before my time
                                         
                                         if we were anything lower than what is now the championship.
                                         
                                         We went to the championship twice in my lifetime
                                         
    
                                         and we got promoted back up straight away.
                                         
                                         And I know that's a privileged position
                                         
                                         considering a lot of clubs
                                         
                                         spend years and years without getting in the Prem.
                                         
                                         So I do check my privilege on that shit.
                                         
                                         But it was tough to watch
                                         
                                         when your expectations are the entertainers
                                         
                                         right
                                         
    
                                         that's when I come up
                                         
                                         football sentient
                                         
                                         was like fucking
                                         
                                         Keegan's
                                         
                                         like Andy Koshira
                                         
                                         like that sort of
                                         
                                         generation
                                         
                                         and then you expect
                                         
    
                                         that to be the rest
                                         
                                         of your life
                                         
                                         and it's not
                                         
                                         and the way I started
                                         
                                         enjoying football
                                         
                                         is I just zoomed out
                                         
                                         a step
                                         
                                         and started enjoying
                                         
    
                                         the league
                                         
                                         and just enjoyed
                                         
                                         the actual league itself
                                         
                                         and just like the story
                                         
                                         of like everything
                                         
                                         that's happening
                                         
                                         instead of just
                                         
                                         of course that's the main focus is Newcastle but i can still enjoy football without my team's
                                         
    
                                         success yeah it's about that like the immediate dismissal of a thing but there are things that are
                                         
                                         intrinsically boring i will always say watching jujitsu is the most boring fucking thing in the
                                         
                                         world that's as a practitioner yeah like jujitsu is an incredibly like I wouldn't say it was boring when I watched you
                                         
                                         But that's because it that's because you knew someone who was doing it if you went to watch jujitsu
                                         
                                         It's in like it falls down as a sport why it will never get massive
                                         
                                         It is because I can stick on the UFC or I can stick on boxing
                                         
                                         in front of a girl or group of people who aren't into it.
                                         
                                         And they can immediately get invested because it is very simple to understand.
                                         
    
                                         That person needs to knock that person out.
                                         
                                         That person.
                                         
                                         You can very quickly tell who's doing well, who's doing badly.
                                         
                                         And then suddenly it can switch at any moment.
                                         
                                         So that's exciting.
                                         
                                         Jiu-jitsu can be three minutes of fighting for hand position on the floor.
                                         
                                         That is not exciting
                                         
                                         that's why i can see that and i've got the great thing i always say this about the marvelous thing
                                         
    
                                         about sport and indeed come back to the thing of people who dismiss sport or this particular sport
                                         
                                         it's not the ball it's not the whatever the thing it's the human beings if you had two robots who
                                         
                                         could play snooker that would not be that would be i suppose mildly interesting
                                         
                                         but when you've got a snooge yeah we'll have a novelty value for sure yeah but it's the tension
                                         
                                         and it's ronnie o'sullivan and it's oh well i hate snooker i'm giving it up and all that and
                                         
                                         and you've got someone else who's maybe really really sort of diligent and in a different sort
                                         
                                         of personality and the tension gets through and. And boxing obviously is all about,
                                         
                                         is so much about,
                                         
    
                                         about that and what's in the head.
                                         
                                         But with jujitsu,
                                         
                                         when I've come to the tournaments,
                                         
                                         it's the whole paraphernalia of it.
                                         
                                         I find fascinating to think this is jujitsu,
                                         
                                         not the most popular sport in Britain.
                                         
                                         And the immense amount of effort that's gone in to create in the jujitsu, not the most popular sport in Britain. And the immense amount of effort that's gone in to create a jujitsu tournament in one area.
                                         
                                         And there's like 200 competitors and 40 referees.
                                         
    
                                         And they've all had to bring boards with electronic scoreboards and mats and stuff for the coffees.
                                         
                                         And people are taking the notes and someone's had to get the trophies.
                                         
                                         And it's just this,
                                         
                                         I find it incredibly moving.
                                         
                                         So much effort.
                                         
                                         None of them are getting paid
                                         
                                         or they might be getting their expenses.
                                         
                                         I don't know.
                                         
    
                                         And then people have dismissed it
                                         
                                         as like, oh, it's just an excuse
                                         
                                         for men to cuddle each other.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         And I think,
                                         
                                         which it also is that.
                                         
                                         It's a fucking gay sport.
                                         
                                         Let's not be around a bush.
                                         
    
                                         But then it's,
                                         
                                         but as well,
                                         
                                         it's like, it's why like you usually
                                         
                                         find the higher up you're going to do it to the more it comes very Dungeons and Dragons it's
                                         
                                         exactly the same as Dungeons and Dragons like because you'll find like there's a very intricate
                                         
                                         guard play that like someone goes like I play like a reverse then a heaver into that to go to a single
                                         
                                         leg x then I'm going to full sweep and go for and it comes exactly like this terminology you're talking
                                         
                                         about which spells you're going to cast yeah yeah and it's animate the corpse so that you can get
                                         
    
                                         knowledge from it yeah and it's it gets incredibly like that the higher up you go like you will go
                                         
                                         into a gym and you will just see the most mild-mannered nerdy guy who is fucking wicked
                                         
                                         on the mat because he understands how to learn and patterns was i was going to say do you know but in regards to sport
                                         
                                         what people i think i would have publicly whipped and walked naked through the streets
                                         
                                         keep politics out of sport people uh do you they there is nobody who doesn't understand sport
                                         
                                         less than those people because the whole point of sport is it's political.
                                         
                                         Celtic Rangers is the only,
                                         
                                         that's not about football.
                                         
    
                                         That's about the immense amount of politics involved in it.
                                         
                                         The reason Muhammad Ali is such,
                                         
                                         look, there have been better boxers than Muhammad Ali,
                                         
                                         but the political,
                                         
                                         this is what it pains me to say,
                                         
                                         Floyd Mayweather
                                         
                                         is a better boxer
                                         
                                         than Muhammad Ali
                                         
    
                                         right he is
                                         
                                         yeah people don't like hearing that
                                         
                                         they don't want to hear that
                                         
                                         he is
                                         
                                         he's not as liked
                                         
                                         we don't talk about it
                                         
                                         it's the first time
                                         
                                         it's ever been mentioned
                                         
    
                                         in what we should have
                                         
                                         he's not as liked
                                         
                                         he's not as loved
                                         
                                         why?
                                         
                                         because of the politics
                                         
                                         of Muhammad Ali
                                         
                                         so when someone likes
                                         
                                         takes a knee in football
                                         
    
                                         and someone doesn't want
                                         
                                         to have a conversation
                                         
                                         about racing,
                                         
                                         they go,
                                         
                                         well,
                                         
                                         I just think politics
                                         
                                         shouldn't be in sport.
                                         
                                         The entire point of sport
                                         
    
                                         is it's tribalistic.
                                         
                                         We're meant to be
                                         
                                         getting political about this.
                                         
                                         Your political affiliation
                                         
                                         in your football team
                                         
                                         is a huge thing in Europe.
                                         
                                         If you are a Lazio fan,
                                         
                                         you are probably
                                         
    
                                         quite right wing.
                                         
                                         If you are a Roma fan,
                                         
                                         you are probably
                                         
                                         slightly less right wing.
                                         
                                         It's a huge, what are you, less right wing like it it's a huge
                                         
                                         what are you
                                         
                                         you're going to tell
                                         
                                         African Cup of Nations
                                         
    
                                         you're going to get to
                                         
                                         say when Ghana
                                         
                                         versus Nigeria
                                         
                                         hey guys
                                         
                                         keep politics out of this
                                         
                                         it's a whole
                                         
                                         fucking
                                         
                                         the Euros
                                         
    
                                         it's just
                                         
                                         ethno-nationalism
                                         
                                         with a little bit of football
                                         
                                         being played in between
                                         
                                         and I think
                                         
                                         I think that's absolutely right
                                         
                                         and in a
                                         
                                         in a million,
                                         
    
                                         I mean, I would say it's not just politics.
                                         
                                         Serbia, Albania.
                                         
                                         Could you imagine that game?
                                         
                                         Like, are you going to say,
                                         
                                         hey guys, keep the fall of Yugoslavia out of this?
                                         
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         And also, yeah, it's not just nationalism.
                                         
                                         It's every other,
                                         
    
                                         like Ronnie O'Sullivan, for example,
                                         
                                         he represents a certain disdain for authority.
                                         
                                         He's obviously always been personally very political.
                                         
                                         He was a Corbyn supporter and so on.
                                         
                                         And that represents a certain...
                                         
                                         Tiger Woods becoming probably the second greatest golfer of all time
                                         
                                         as a black man in a sport that
                                         
                                         routinely barred black people from,
                                         
    
                                         uh,
                                         
                                         from playing on,
                                         
                                         including,
                                         
                                         including one of the play,
                                         
                                         one of the,
                                         
                                         uh,
                                         
                                         courses.
                                         
                                         So sport has been a majors on that's,
                                         
    
                                         it's been a platform for social breakthroughs historically over the years.
                                         
                                         Well,
                                         
                                         Jesse,
                                         
                                         Jesse Irons winning,
                                         
                                         uh,
                                         
                                         and then as soon as people say, as soon as people start saying new social breakthroughs happening they're like no
                                         
                                         no no no legs to keep politics out of sports there was some there was some cunt in cologne with us
                                         
                                         on an england flag stop the boats right which like look if we i i hate that we have to do this but
                                         
    
                                         like if we're going to take the knee that prick as much i disagree with him he's allowed to have
                                         
                                         that on his thing i disagree with it but he's allowed to have that on his thing.
                                         
                                         I disagree with it,
                                         
                                         but he's allowed to have it, yeah.
                                         
                                         But he's the type of person
                                         
                                         that's saying keep politics out of football
                                         
                                         and he's got stop reports on his flag.
                                         
                                         People have found tweets of his
                                         
    
                                         going keep politics out of football
                                         
                                         and now it's like,
                                         
                                         well go fuck, no, no, no.
                                         
                                         Keep your fucking,
                                         
                                         you don't get a,
                                         
                                         you don't get a doozle
                                         
                                         and it's the exact same as people.
                                         
                                         They'll say keep politics out of football
                                         
    
                                         and then complain about the price of a paint.
                                         
                                         Yeah. Which that'll be like to do with tax levies and shit.
                                         
                                         Even at a subtler level,
                                         
                                         like the England football team under Southgate
                                         
                                         that started doing better,
                                         
                                         one of the reasons it started doing better
                                         
                                         was that Southgate,
                                         
                                         and also I think the FA allowed them to do this,
                                         
    
                                         understood that the old ways of thinking of the England team,
                                         
                                         that we were just going to win naturally because we were England
                                         
                                         and all that sort of thing,
                                         
                                         but it was all the hostility between different players
                                         
                                         because they were from different clubs.
                                         
                                         Yeah, there was a big division in the past, wasn't there?
                                         
                                         The media focus on wives and girlfriends yes that
                                         
                                         the racism
                                         
    
                                         that would have been there that when black players
                                         
                                         raised racism
                                         
                                         that would have been dismissed
                                         
                                         racism in the news about like if Harry Kane
                                         
                                         buys a car for his mother he's a golden boy
                                         
                                         if Raheem Sterling did it
                                         
                                         if Raheem Sterling did it he was flashing the cash
                                         
                                         and Southgate was aware
                                         
    
                                         of that and that was a big
                                         
                                         part of him that
                                         
                                         was a big part of
                                         
                                         his
                                         
                                         that's why the
                                         
                                         players always
                                         
                                         defended him
                                         
                                         weren't they
                                         
    
                                         so he put out
                                         
                                         the statement in
                                         
                                         support of Black
                                         
                                         Lives Matter he
                                         
                                         allowed people like
                                         
                                         Mings and so on to
                                         
                                         make those statements
                                         
                                         that were very
                                         
    
                                         explicit condemning
                                         
                                         races that before
                                         
                                         they would have
                                         
                                         said no don't
                                         
                                         do that they said
                                         
                                         in advance um before the
                                         
                                         early match we're not going to go to number 10 when boris johnson's in the uh is the prime
                                         
                                         minister and so on applauded rashford and all of his social activities yeah all of that that was a
                                         
    
                                         huge huge thing and similarly with the cricket the uh the brendan mccullum ben stokes era that's an
                                         
                                         era in which they've gone look look, we don't encourage players
                                         
                                         if we're just screaming at them,
                                         
                                         yelling at them, dropping them
                                         
                                         if they make one mistake and so on.
                                         
                                         We're going to have this sort of extreme positivity.
                                         
                                         We're going to back people if they...
                                         
                                         And it's been a whole different way of playing,
                                         
    
                                         a whole different way of...
                                         
                                         Moeen Ali and so on,
                                         
                                         they didn't do all the champagne thing.
                                         
                                         What was that one?
                                         
                                         Because Moeen Ali's a Muslim
                                         
                                         and he wouldn't want to be.
                                         
                                         Oh yeah,
                                         
                                         okay,
                                         
    
                                         yeah.
                                         
                                         So all of that way of thinking.
                                         
                                         I never got a Spurlian Muslim friend with booze,
                                         
                                         like that's just rude.
                                         
                                         No cricket,
                                         
                                         if you did that 40 years ago,
                                         
                                         if you mentioned,
                                         
                                         oh,
                                         
    
                                         he doesn't want to have,
                                         
                                         they'd have just said,
                                         
                                         well,
                                         
                                         if he doesn't like it,
                                         
                                         he can bloody well get back,
                                         
                                         you know.
                                         
                                         So,
                                         
                                         it's integral, it's part of sport social attitudes and so on you can't it not only is it part of it it drives it like you're saying about alley well
                                         
    
                                         i just find it like you know there's this again we're sorry like you are allowed to put i can't
                                         
                                         stop you putting stop the boats on an England flag,
                                         
                                         but you're exactly the kind of,
                                         
                                         firstly,
                                         
                                         like.
                                         
                                         Yeah,
                                         
                                         you'll get people that are sinking politics out of football and then kick off if somebody doesn't wear a poppy.
                                         
                                         Oh,
                                         
    
                                         yeah.
                                         
                                         It's the hypocrisy of it more than anything.
                                         
                                         It's like the fucking,
                                         
                                         no,
                                         
                                         they're like,
                                         
                                         oh,
                                         
                                         I want my politics and football and that's all.
                                         
                                         I want football to be singing from my hymn sheet we were talking about this
                                         
    
                                         the other day right you see people get so angry over the poppy stuff why haven't you fought in
                                         
                                         the army if you love it so much you're fucking coward yeah like you you're the what do you want
                                         
                                         about if you yeah but you're the one you're the one screaming at people
                                         
                                         you go you go join the army
                                         
                                         you can respect the troops
                                         
                                         as if you are one
                                         
                                         why are you screaming at me
                                         
                                         there's no thing
                                         
    
                                         that I have to respect
                                         
                                         the troops
                                         
                                         what am I respecting them for
                                         
                                         for defending my freedom
                                         
                                         from bombing a Yemeni wedding
                                         
                                         like why am I
                                         
                                         what am I respecting
                                         
                                         oh thank you for that
                                         
    
                                         thank you
                                         
                                         I might have been invited
                                         
                                         to a wedding once
                                         
                                         but now I'm not going to
                                         
                                         because you've blown them all to smithereens so that's great cheers I been invited to a wedding once, but now I'm not going to because you've blown them
                                         
                                         all to smithereens.
                                         
                                         So that's great.
                                         
                                         Cheers.
                                         
    
                                         I don't have to go to that now.
                                         
                                         So I'm going to wear a flower
                                         
                                         for your mate
                                         
                                         who got blown up in the country
                                         
                                         that we shouldn't have been in.
                                         
                                         What the fuck am I wearing?
                                         
                                         Why is that on me?
                                         
                                         Why is that my issue?
                                         
    
                                         And when you say that
                                         
                                         to the person,
                                         
                                         do they,
                                         
                                         does that win them round?
                                         
                                         Look,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
    
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
    
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
    
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I,
                                         
                                         I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I? Look, I... You wouldn't dare? He's a coward?
                                         
    
                                         No, I would say... Sopit's listening to you right now.
                                         
                                         He's going to rip your fucking head off.
                                         
                                         Ha-ha, Sopit.
                                         
                                         Ha-ha.
                                         
                                         No.
                                         
                                         Do you know how I avoided PTSD?
                                         
                                         I didn't go out in a war zone.
                                         
                                         That was my way of getting out of it.
                                         
    
                                         You would have been terrible in a war zone.
                                         
                                         Really? I'd have been fucking classed. You would have been too fucking clumsy. You would have been terrible in a war zone. Really?
                                         
                                         I'd have been fucking classed.
                                         
                                         You would have been too fucking clumsy.
                                         
                                         You would have thrown the pin and kept the grenade.
                                         
                                         They'd have been at the night evening,
                                         
                                         people would be screaming and stuff.
                                         
                                         You've got to go get the medicare.
                                         
    
                                         And I'd go,
                                         
                                         that's not all the way over there, you know.
                                         
                                         No, man, it'll be all right.
                                         
                                         Come on.
                                         
                                         I'd do a shortcut.
                                         
                                         I would be such a coward in a war.
                                         
                                         There's a newsreader who,
                                         
                                         I won't say his name,
                                         
    
                                         but it's a newsreader who used to do the Today programme.
                                         
                                         Not Hugh Edwards, no, no.
                                         
                                         Hugh Edwards definitely would not have done this.
                                         
                                         And I was on the Today programme once
                                         
                                         and there was a soldier that was being interviewed on the phone.
                                         
                                         And this soldier had PTSD.
                                         
                                         And he said, you have to be careful a bit with me because I've got PTSD from an incident that happened in Afghanistan or something.
                                         
                                         And this newsreader did this little interview with him.
                                         
    
                                         I remember that.
                                         
                                         Well, exactly. on or something and this newsreader did this little interview with him well exactly so
                                         
                                         then when there was a sort of little break for the weather
                                         
                                         or something I said I reckon
                                         
                                         you were fighting the temptation
                                         
                                         there all through that interview to suddenly go
                                         
                                         on the other hand one thing
                                         
                                         I would like BOOM
                                         
    
                                         and I thought
                                         
                                         is that a really terrible thing to say
                                         
                                         to this really earnest sort of
                                         
                                         and he went oh if only I had have done if only I had have done that a really terrible thing to say to this really earnest sort of... And they went, oh, if only I had have done.
                                         
                                         If only I had have done.
                                         
                                         That would have been hilarious.
                                         
                                         And I thought, oh, that's...
                                         
                                         The fucking squad, he would have loved that because they've got the sickest sense of humour.
                                         
    
                                         They'd fucking love that shit, man.
                                         
                                         Imagine the trouble you'd get in, though, with us now.
                                         
                                         We've got this post-traumatic stress disorder.
                                         
                                         And one thing I should ask you, and which regiment would...
                                         
                                         Imagine the shit you would get in for that but yeah you're right this is what he'd love
                                         
                                         once they recovered yeah but isn't it with like a popper as well it's like if you wear it i get
                                         
                                         it it's a mark of respect right but something's no longer a mark of respect if you force everyone
                                         
                                         to wear it it's an enforced thing so that means the people who are wearing it have to wear it because you don't want to get yelled at
                                         
    
                                         so then you can't tell who's wearing it because they're genuinely like look i think well no one
                                         
                                         is forced to wear it can i remind you something that really this really uh and it's really upsetting
                                         
                                         actually but do you know if you remember this is it a fight going to school about it no i don't
                                         
                                         know i don't know about that Tell us about that in a minute.
                                         
                                         You were about, I wonder what, age six maybe,
                                         
                                         and you'd bought a poppy, I think,
                                         
                                         in a shopping centre or something like that.
                                         
                                         And I said, like, classic liberal earnest dad,
                                         
    
                                         I went, oh, right, you know,
                                         
                                         good that you bought a poppy or something like that but that and then I went through the reasons why I don't get
                                         
                                         a poppy and that it's sort of a that they that it's part of that poppies of
                                         
                                         main as part of the Hague Foundation and Hague was that one of the generals in
                                         
                                         the First World War it was responsible for I don't know and then you just started crying and I thought oh fuck
                                         
                                         you just let him
                                         
                                         upset you
                                         
                                         so instead of
                                         
    
                                         letting him
                                         
                                         disrespect the troops
                                         
                                         I felt such a sweat
                                         
                                         do you remember that
                                         
                                         no I was
                                         
                                         but my thing with it
                                         
                                         is I'd get
                                         
                                         I'd get
                                         
    
                                         up off
                                         
                                         because I think
                                         
                                         like the people
                                         
                                         who I sent to war
                                         
                                         to die
                                         
                                         and the people
                                         
                                         who
                                         
                                         I think my granddad
                                         
    
                                         was in the RAF
                                         
                                         my friends have been
                                         
                                         to war
                                         
                                         I like fucking respecting the troops when the RAF my friends have been at war like I like
                                         
                                         fucking respecting
                                         
                                         the troops
                                         
                                         when the tape
                                         
                                         comes around
                                         
    
                                         you don't have to
                                         
                                         agree with the
                                         
                                         fucking politics
                                         
                                         of all of the wars
                                         
                                         to just go
                                         
                                         those motherfuckers
                                         
                                         put their lives
                                         
                                         on the line for us
                                         
    
                                         I just find it
                                         
                                         hypocritical
                                         
                                         when like
                                         
                                         you're gonna go see
                                         
                                         you know
                                         
                                         as answers day
                                         
                                         comes around
                                         
                                         you're gonna go see
                                         
    
                                         people like
                                         
                                         who are politicians
                                         
                                         and stuff
                                         
                                         laying a reef
                                         
                                         and it's like you're the fucking cunts who send people are politicians and stuff wearing a poppy laying a wreath and it's like
                                         
                                         you're the fucking cunts
                                         
                                         who send people
                                         
                                         a war
                                         
    
                                         like this is
                                         
                                         so as I got a bit older
                                         
                                         I was like
                                         
                                         oh I'm
                                         
                                         I'm happy
                                         
                                         to wear the poppy
                                         
                                         because
                                         
                                         some guy who's
                                         
    
                                         gone over
                                         
                                         it's the Tories
                                         
                                         going to clap for the NHS
                                         
                                         while fucking
                                         
                                         underfunding them
                                         
                                         yeah yeah yeah
                                         
                                         it's exactly that
                                         
                                         the reason we're clapping
                                         
    
                                         and the reason they're fucking
                                         
                                         like on the front lane right now
                                         
                                         is because they
                                         
                                         you've got us
                                         
                                         in this mess
                                         
                                         I don't have
                                         
                                         this thing
                                         
                                         and also there's
                                         
    
                                         like a thing
                                         
                                         as I get older
                                         
                                         I kind of look
                                         
                                         at like England
                                         
                                         flags and I like
                                         
                                         wearing an England
                                         
                                         flag during the
                                         
                                         football and stuff
                                         
    
                                         like that but
                                         
                                         there's an aggressive
                                         
                                         part of it that
                                         
                                         makes me step
                                         
                                         backwards so
                                         
                                         where's your
                                         
                                         puppy
                                         
                                         and those are
                                         
    
                                         the people that
                                         
                                         I always think
                                         
                                         why don't you
                                         
                                         why if you're so into this you should have been in the army.
                                         
                                         Did you ever try to go, I tried this saying up for the RAF.
                                         
                                         Did you ever, was that even on your, was that even on your radar?
                                         
                                         I used to be obsessed with the SAS and like fitness and running and stuff.
                                         
                                         Like when I was like 16 and I wanted to like,
                                         
    
                                         I reckon if I had a year of being unemployed, I'd have done it.
                                         
                                         Like if I, if I hadn't found staff.
                                         
                                         You wanted to be SS?
                                         
                                         No,
                                         
                                         I just loved the idea of like going over to Brecon Beacons and stuff like that.
                                         
                                         I find it fascinating.
                                         
                                         Like I was generally obsessive with it,
                                         
                                         but then like I started doing standup.
                                         
    
                                         So I was like,
                                         
                                         I wasn't going to,
                                         
                                         I wasn't going to do it.
                                         
                                         Cause Maine was,
                                         
                                         that was the only thing holding me back from joining the SS.
                                         
                                         That was the only thing.
                                         
                                         You don't simply join the SS.
                                         
                                         The most elite group in the world.
                                         
    
                                         You'll be very pleased to know
                                         
                                         that stand-up didn't really work out,
                                         
                                         so I'm going to come and join your elite regiment.
                                         
                                         So if you can just sort of let us know
                                         
                                         where it is that we're going to be.
                                         
                                         Where am I going to be sleeping?
                                         
                                         You're going to be parachuting me into.
                                         
                                         A man who turned up late to Muay Thai.
                                         
    
                                         I turned up late to Muay Thai yesterday
                                         
                                         to get out of doing
                                         
                                         the plank
                                         
                                         I wanted to be
                                         
                                         I think it was like
                                         
                                         weapons loadmaster
                                         
                                         or something
                                         
                                         I wanted to be like
                                         
    
                                         some engineer
                                         
                                         and like level of
                                         
                                         like RAF
                                         
                                         like working
                                         
                                         I wanted to work on planes
                                         
                                         I was fascinated by planes
                                         
                                         that sounds like
                                         
                                         summoning the
                                         
    
                                         Dungeons and Dragons
                                         
                                         again
                                         
                                         I does don't it
                                         
                                         but just with missiles
                                         
                                         instead of spells
                                         
                                         so I would I went into the RAF thing and they sent us for an eye test the Dungeons and Dragons again. It does do that, but just with missiles instead of spells.
                                         
                                         So I went into the RAF thing and they sent us for an eye test
                                         
                                         and I give them the eye test results
                                         
    
                                         and they sent us the list of things
                                         
                                         that I could do
                                         
                                         and it was just a bunch of things
                                         
                                         crossed off and then like chef
                                         
                                         at the bottom of the list
                                         
                                         with a chick next to it.
                                         
                                         That's the sort of thing,
                                         
                                         why do people who are chefs in the army,
                                         
    
                                         why do they get respect?
                                         
                                         What do you mean? why do I have to
                                         
                                         respect them
                                         
                                         the same way
                                         
                                         because they're
                                         
                                         feeding the
                                         
                                         fucking people
                                         
                                         that are
                                         
    
                                         going to
                                         
                                         probably gone
                                         
                                         to the
                                         
                                         food in their
                                         
                                         tummies
                                         
                                         you know
                                         
                                         probably gone
                                         
                                         to the
                                         
    
                                         province
                                         
                                         or something
                                         
                                         at the end of a gig
                                         
                                         you'll give a round
                                         
                                         of applause
                                         
                                         for the people
                                         
                                         at the barn
                                         
                                         I don't mean it
                                         
    
                                         I don't mean it
                                         
                                         I think
                                         
                                         let me just make this clear
                                         
                                         I think what I've done is vastly superior.
                                         
                                         You just can't say that.
                                         
                                         You're not allowed to say that.
                                         
                                         You're at an event that revolves around you
                                         
                                         and people clap you when you're out going on stage.
                                         
    
                                         I don't think they see you and the guy clap
                                         
                                         and it's just a little bit guy.
                                         
                                         It's not just me that's part of this operation.
                                         
                                         They poured your paints.
                                         
                                         They got you.
                                         
                                         Fair enough.
                                         
                                         I apologize.
                                         
                                         Give them some of that now. I apologise.
                                         
    
                                         I apologise to all the military chefs out there.
                                         
                                         I'll be wearing a little stain on my shirt
                                         
                                         in honour of you.
                                         
                                         A little bean spit on my shirt.
                                         
                                         On an apron in honour of you.
                                         
                                         No, I got...
                                         
                                         Oh, this is quite a bad story.
                                         
                                         I got in a...
                                         
    
                                         Do you remember there was a guy at my school,
                                         
                                         Mr Jones, who used to run centre,
                                         
                                         who was in the army?
                                         
                                         I was running centre.
                                         
                                         So if you got in school exclusion. So my school wouldn Jones who used to run centre who was in the army I was running centre so if you got in school exclusion
                                         
                                         so my school
                                         
                                         wouldn't exclude you
                                         
                                         you had to go into school
                                         
    
                                         the person that was
                                         
                                         in charge of detention
                                         
                                         yeah you'd go in
                                         
                                         mine was Ross Noble's mum
                                         
                                         I would be in detention
                                         
                                         with Mrs Noble
                                         
                                         yeah that was
                                         
                                         that was my
                                         
    
                                         my head of year
                                         
                                         and she still comes
                                         
                                         to my shows
                                         
                                         she'll probably be
                                         
                                         one of the Newcastle ones
                                         
                                         she doesn't tell me
                                         
                                         she's coming
                                         
                                         but she's been there
                                         
    
                                         every single show
                                         
                                         I've ever done
                                         
                                         oh that's brilliant
                                         
                                         that's a brilliant story
                                         
                                         I've never met Ross
                                         
                                         now ruin that
                                         
                                         so the centre was
                                         
                                         it was in school
                                         
    
                                         you're going an hour
                                         
                                         after everyone else
                                         
                                         and you leave an hour
                                         
                                         later than everyone else
                                         
                                         so you don't get to see anyone
                                         
                                         like it's like
                                         
                                         it's kind of a weird punishment
                                         
                                         you were in there quite a lot
                                         
    
                                         I was in there quite a lot
                                         
                                         in fact the number of times
                                         
                                         I had to go up that school
                                         
                                         I reckon I was in that school
                                         
                                         more than you were
                                         
                                         and there was
                                         
                                         this lad
                                         
                                         I had a poppy
                                         
    
                                         on and this
                                         
                                         Afghan lad came
                                         
                                         up and like
                                         
                                         tried to rip it
                                         
                                         off us
                                         
                                         which like looking
                                         
                                         back on
                                         
                                         probably fair fuck
                                         
    
                                         but I'm 50
                                         
                                         so some lads
                                         
                                         come up and
                                         
                                         then me and him
                                         
                                         have just had this
                                         
                                         scrap
                                         
                                         we've just had
                                         
                                         like a fight
                                         
    
                                         in the school
                                         
                                         and it's got
                                         
                                         separated imagine just the whole war just went well let's just decide and then me and him have just had this scrap we've just had like a fight in the school and it's got separated
                                         
                                         imagine they're just
                                         
                                         like just the whole war
                                         
                                         just went well
                                         
                                         let's just decide
                                         
                                         between these two champions
                                         
    
                                         and we were like
                                         
                                         that's how the telly
                                         
                                         bang got back into it
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         it was good
                                         
                                         they lost on my dime
                                         
                                         I wasn't able to
                                         
    
                                         keep it my first
                                         
                                         and so I went
                                         
                                         into the centre
                                         
                                         like we've had this fight
                                         
                                         and
                                         
                                         the guy running
                                         
                                         it was called Mr Jones,
                                         
                                         he took us to this other room, and he was like,
                                         
    
                                         right, what's all that about?
                                         
                                         And I told him, and he went, oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         He went, can I show you some photos?
                                         
                                         I went, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         And he brought out these photos of him in a ghillie suit
                                         
                                         with a sniper, and I'm, like, looking at it,
                                         
                                         and I'm, like, right.
                                         
                                         Child soldier?
                                         
    
                                         No, no, no, he's, like, when he was fighting over
                                         
                                         in Kosovo and Yugoslavia.
                                         
                                         The kid you were fighting with?
                                         
                                         No, the teacher.
                                         
                                         Oh, the teacher.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                         And he's nearly gone into a schoolyard scrap with a jailed sword.
                                         
                                         He was getting let off on Tuesday mornings from maths
                                         
    
                                         so that he could go and fight in Kosovo.
                                         
                                         The fact he was fighting in Kosovo,
                                         
                                         this Afghani kid was just like a Sheik Havara
                                         
                                         at this point
                                         
                                         travelling the world getting into different fights
                                         
                                         he was in Ukraine at the time
                                         
                                         yeah he wasn't allowed to score on Tuesday
                                         
                                         because he had to protect a diamond mine
                                         
    
                                         see I teach how it's ex-military
                                         
                                         not just ex-military like special forces
                                         
                                         so I went like oh well you're in the special forces
                                         
                                         and he just went
                                         
                                         oh they give it some silly name like that
                                         
                                         and then he never
                                         
                                         let on about anything else
                                         
                                         but he was just like
                                         
    
                                         to me like
                                         
                                         he was like
                                         
                                         if someone does that again
                                         
                                         he was like
                                         
                                         yeah fuck them up
                                         
                                         he was like
                                         
                                         why did you let
                                         
                                         this man teach kids
                                         
    
                                         no
                                         
                                         I'll tell you what
                                         
                                         he was
                                         
                                         put in a multicultural school
                                         
                                         I swear to God
                                         
                                         this guy no no no this guy was class this guy everyone everyone He was put in a multicultural school. This guy,
                                         
                                         no,
                                         
                                         no,
                                         
    
                                         no.
                                         
                                         This guy was class.
                                         
                                         This guy,
                                         
                                         everyone,
                                         
                                         everyone,
                                         
                                         everyone loved him.
                                         
                                         Everyone loved him.
                                         
                                         Mr.
                                         
    
                                         Jones,
                                         
                                         because he was,
                                         
                                         he was popular.
                                         
                                         He was just like,
                                         
                                         he would just go like,
                                         
                                         he just was one of those,
                                         
                                         if you went into a place and people had a fight,
                                         
                                         he'll come to you and go,
                                         
    
                                         what was the fight about?
                                         
                                         And sometimes he'd be like,
                                         
                                         look,
                                         
                                         you've got,
                                         
                                         he's like,
                                         
                                         if you're going to fight, you've got to come in here and take the punishment.
                                         
                                         But yeah, don't let someone do that.
                                         
                                         Like he was, he was just like reasonable, but he never let you off.
                                         
    
                                         Like he was totally fair.
                                         
                                         He was like, you've got to sit here and serve your punishment
                                         
                                         because we're a school and this is, there's got to be order.
                                         
                                         But yeah, this is the world.
                                         
                                         Like it's going to be like that sometimes
                                         
                                         and he was just always he was just always invested in what you were up to out of school like if you
                                         
                                         go into boxing or something he would like come with you to the boxing gym and like he was just
                                         
                                         one of those he cared for his peers he was like someone in the wire who like gave a fuck it's
                                         
    
                                         funny how your perspective on teachers can shift as you get older as well because you look back at
                                         
                                         the ones that were like a bit more strict and disciplined are they you hated them when you're
                                         
                                         in school and you look back and go are they actually cared
                                         
                                         yeah they were actually trying to keep some form in the class and keep learning and then you get
                                         
                                         the teachers that would swear and you thought they were cool and you're going why is he showing off
                                         
                                         in front of children and then you get the ones that would like always come in like brill cream
                                         
                                         and fucking aftershave and you're like like the girls would fancy him and shit like that and you'd
                                         
                                         be like oh he's coming to school trying to pull yeah where the fuck was that guy it was uh but then there was the i remember going to the
                                         
    
                                         um parents evening at your school and oh miss jameson well i told you i told you it was meant
                                         
                                         when you wouldn't have it and then you met her and went oh yeah yeah all right well come on to
                                         
                                         miss jameson and you were married for three years. Exonerated in the thing.
                                         
                                         I got exonerated.
                                         
                                         You know when a kid's like, this teacher's like not,
                                         
                                         and you're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
                                         
                                         And then you meet her and you go, oh, fuck.
                                         
                                         You lot have some strong unions, the fact that she's still working here.
                                         
    
                                         Well, Miss Jameson is the one that threw out a kid in your class
                                         
                                         because he called another kid.
                                         
                                         He said I was referred to him as scarce and
                                         
                                         she threw him out as racist and then Elliot stuck up for the kid going it's not right is to say that
                                         
                                         someone scarce and then you got in trouble for that as well I got all right into the school and
                                         
                                         I called I said honest image James and I could see that it's not like Scousers and the Slayer by the
                                         
                                         way
                                         
                                         he was
                                         
    
                                         saying
                                         
                                         what he
                                         
                                         was talking
                                         
                                         about
                                         
                                         was
                                         
                                         Liverpool
                                         
                                         were playing
                                         
                                         Cardiff
                                         
    
                                         in at
                                         
                                         the time
                                         
                                         the League
                                         
                                         Cup
                                         
                                         final
                                         
                                         so he
                                         
                                         was going
                                         
                                         they're
                                         
    
                                         playing
                                         
                                         the Scousers
                                         
                                         that's what
                                         
                                         he said
                                         
                                         it wasn't
                                         
                                         like
                                         
                                         you're
                                         
                                         pulling
                                         
    
                                         into
                                         
                                         someone's
                                         
                                         car
                                         
                                         you must
                                         
                                         be
                                         
                                         Scouser
                                         
                                         it wasn't that it was Cardiff was's car you must be Scouse it wasn't that
                                         
                                         it was Cardiff
                                         
    
                                         was playing Liverpool
                                         
                                         and he went
                                         
                                         Cardiff are playing
                                         
                                         the Scousers
                                         
                                         that was the thing
                                         
                                         it wasn't even
                                         
                                         like a cheap joke
                                         
                                         she just took it
                                         
    
                                         as a slur
                                         
                                         she took it as a slur
                                         
                                         didn't understand
                                         
                                         wasn't prepared
                                         
                                         and then worse
                                         
                                         is not
                                         
                                         if you could imagine
                                         
                                         someone sort of
                                         
    
                                         doing that
                                         
                                         and then going
                                         
                                         Kitchy Frow was black
                                         
                                         by the way
                                         
                                         she's told a black
                                         
                                         she's a white woman.
                                         
                                         So there was,
                                         
                                         there was times I had to come down to your side and then,
                                         
    
                                         uh,
                                         
                                         and she was statistics,
                                         
                                         wasn't she?
                                         
                                         And then there was a period during Elliot's last year there where I went into
                                         
                                         the parents evening and these these two hated each other.
                                         
                                         They were sat there all...
                                         
                                         And she said, I don't like having him in my class.
                                         
                                         I really don't like having him in the class.
                                         
    
                                         And I said, this is probably the only bit of diplomacy
                                         
                                         I've ever done in my life that works.
                                         
                                         I said, right, I might have a solution here.
                                         
                                         Elliot really hates being in your class.
                                         
                                         You really don't like Elliot being in your class
                                         
                                         why don't we just say Elliot doesn't come to your class anymore and she went yes great and then you
                                         
                                         went yes and then I said as a little joke she's a statistics teacher I said I think we can say
                                         
                                         that 100% of people in this little meeting are happy with that result and she went
                                         
    
                                         well i don't think that's funny honestly she recoiled from that even though he's just like
                                         
                                         coming to a conclusion and agreed on something yeah oh yeah she was she was bad and then what
                                         
                                         did you do for that hour i just had an extra hour in bed did it yeah it was it was double it was it was a double
                                         
                                         period on monday and a single period on wednesday and then one time i had a my the football teacher
                                         
                                         of school was like well there's another pe class going on now where we just have like he's like we
                                         
                                         play football do you want to come and just like play footy so i just ended up on mondays going
                                         
                                         in and playing footy did you ever actually skype at any point oh yeah like tell your dad you're
                                         
                                         going to school school leave for school
                                         
    
                                         and then not go
                                         
                                         me and my mate Harry
                                         
                                         had this thing
                                         
                                         on every Thursday
                                         
                                         we found this like
                                         
                                         hole in the fence
                                         
                                         we could get out
                                         
                                         and I wouldn't go
                                         
    
                                         to my English class
                                         
                                         right
                                         
                                         but my mate
                                         
                                         yeah yeah yeah
                                         
                                         and I would just
                                         
                                         why do you think
                                         
                                         his English is so bad
                                         
                                         listen how you speak
                                         
    
                                         and how he speaks
                                         
                                         which one skipped English
                                         
                                         but like I was
                                         
                                         that hole in the fence
                                         
                                         is responsible
                                         
                                         for all your
                                         
                                         grammatical inadequacies
                                         
                                         well
                                         
    
                                         so my mate Harry
                                         
                                         was like known
                                         
                                         because he had this big
                                         
                                         red
                                         
                                         he was a big lad
                                         
                                         and he had like a big
                                         
                                         red jacket
                                         
                                         that he'd wear right
                                         
    
                                         so everyone would
                                         
                                         joke about calling him
                                         
                                         Red Riding Hood
                                         
                                         whatever
                                         
                                         and one day
                                         
                                         he's like
                                         
                                         you'd have to go up
                                         
                                         like climb
                                         
    
                                         stand on this fence
                                         
                                         like stand on a brick wall
                                         
                                         and there was a hole
                                         
                                         in the fence and it was like someone's house and you come out on their drive and you walk off
                                         
                                         and he lived like over the road from the school so we'd walk around the back ways go right he's
                                         
                                         climbing through the fence and the teacher just leant out the window and went oh bye then harry
                                         
                                         and he just kept going right and he turned around and went fuck you and just kept going
                                         
                                         i haven't gone through yet. She hasn't seen me.
                                         
    
                                         I was like,
                                         
                                         I can't just leave him.
                                         
                                         I can't leave him.
                                         
                                         Like I can't just let my mate go.
                                         
                                         So I was like,
                                         
                                         but I can't go.
                                         
                                         So you put your mustache,
                                         
                                         nose and glasses on.
                                         
    
                                         Even worse,
                                         
                                         I just walked out the front exit.
                                         
                                         Never got caught.
                                         
                                         So he got caught
                                         
                                         and given like a load of detention.
                                         
                                         I walked out the front exit
                                         
                                         and no one ever,
                                         
                                         no one was none the wiser.
                                         
    
                                         Yeah.
                                         
                                         But there was a couple. At least you didn't snitch none the wiser yeah but there was a couple at least you didn't
                                         
                                         snitch on him
                                         
                                         no but there was
                                         
                                         there was a couple times
                                         
                                         where I'd like
                                         
                                         just
                                         
                                         but this was like
                                         
    
                                         sort of year 10 and 11
                                         
                                         and it's kind of where
                                         
                                         I realised
                                         
                                         like a thing that I still
                                         
                                         have authority now
                                         
                                         is if you just
                                         
                                         it was in year
                                         
                                         sorry it was in my
                                         
    
                                         sixth form
                                         
                                         there was a class
                                         
                                         on Friday
                                         
                                         so the way my sixth form
                                         
                                         worked
                                         
                                         I'd go in for my
                                         
                                         double media session right but I lived like five Skype in sixth form is there was a class on Friday. So the way my sixth form worked, I'd go in for my double media session, right?
                                         
                                         But I lived like five...
                                         
    
                                         Skyping sixth form is so ridiculous
                                         
                                         because it's fucking optional.
                                         
                                         It's voluntary.
                                         
                                         Well, so this is...
                                         
                                         It's like me skyping the night you've died not in.
                                         
                                         It's like leaving the tomato off your breakfast
                                         
                                         when you went to the buffet to collect your food.
                                         
                                         Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                         I 100% agree with you, right?
                                         
                                         But this was the thing.
                                         
                                         So I had a double period in the morning.
                                         
                                         Then there was a double period of free time.
                                         
                                         So like our break was like two hours long.
                                         
                                         And then you had,
                                         
                                         but the final lesson wasn't a thing that I signed up for.
                                         
                                         It was like a thing where you check in in the week
                                         
    
                                         and you go,
                                         
                                         we were 16 years old and you go in
                                         
                                         and you watch a video about learning to learn
                                         
                                         and the best way for you to,
                                         
                                         and I was like,
                                         
                                         this is the last thing on a Friday.
                                         
                                         I'm not sticking around school for an extra two hours to do this fucking 40
                                         
                                         minute class.
                                         
    
                                         Never went once like on the,
                                         
                                         from the first week to like 12 weeks in,
                                         
                                         like we've had like half term,
                                         
                                         we're like broke for Christmas.
                                         
                                         And in one week they just clocked that I'd never gone.
                                         
                                         And they were like,
                                         
                                         we,
                                         
                                         we,
                                         
    
                                         you get these things called penalty points where if you get 15,
                                         
                                         you're permanently excluded. I was already on like nine and they were like, for each lesson you these things called penalty points, where if you get 15, you're permanently excluded.
                                         
                                         I was already on like nine.
                                         
                                         And they were like,
                                         
                                         for each lesson you skip,
                                         
                                         that's a penalty point.
                                         
                                         So they were like,
                                         
                                         it's permanent exclusion.
                                         
    
                                         They were like,
                                         
                                         you're out of there.
                                         
                                         Cause I'd skipped.
                                         
                                         And I was going like,
                                         
                                         right.
                                         
                                         Cause I didn't go to this class that you,
                                         
                                         that I never signed up for.
                                         
                                         Like it wasn't,
                                         
    
                                         it wasn't like a thing.
                                         
                                         It wasn't like,
                                         
                                         that's not what you want.
                                         
                                         And also, I went, just think about this logically logically or the other one was like um so say you were in
                                         
                                         for your first period say your first lesson was during uh after that double break i was talking
                                         
                                         about right they'd want you to go to registration then you'd go back home there'd be that break and
                                         
                                         then you're going for another lesson and i was like absolutely fucking not i'm not getting up early in the morning when i don't have to get up early in
                                         
                                         the morning like that's just stupid so i wouldn't go in and i'll be like well you are and i've worked
                                         
    
                                         out because you're inconformant today i'd also worked out this other thing like if i just didn't
                                         
                                         go to form and say i went to my first double lesson of the day which was in the morning
                                         
                                         you only got a 15 minute detention but form was 20 minutes long so i was like well i'll get an
                                         
                                         extra 20 minutes in bed and then I'll just do a 15 minute detention
                                         
                                         at the end of the day.
                                         
                                         That's like,
                                         
                                         and it was a business and enterprise school.
                                         
                                         So I was like,
                                         
    
                                         that's shrewd business.
                                         
                                         So then.
                                         
                                         I've gained five minutes.
                                         
                                         So I was like,
                                         
                                         but I get an extra bit of a lie in.
                                         
                                         You're an effective businessman
                                         
                                         because I'm getting more sleep.
                                         
                                         But then,
                                         
    
                                         I turned up late to class
                                         
                                         like eating ice creams.
                                         
                                         I just,
                                         
                                         I just worked out
                                         
                                         you could do whatever the fuck you want.
                                         
                                         I'm hearing this.
                                         
                                         I still hear this
                                         
                                         for the stuff
                                         
    
                                         for the first time
                                         
                                         that he was doing
                                         
                                         and you were like
                                         
                                         adjacent to it
                                         
                                         the whole time
                                         
                                         you were like there
                                         
                                         as he was coming in
                                         
                                         you don't know
                                         
    
                                         you think
                                         
                                         you think you know
                                         
                                         what's going on
                                         
                                         and you
                                         
                                         whiskey
                                         
                                         I didn't know
                                         
                                         until years later
                                         
                                         that you'd stolen the whiskey
                                         
    
                                         parents track their kids
                                         
                                         no you know
                                         
                                         they put like a fucking
                                         
                                         it must be hard to parent
                                         
                                         with kids on the phone
                                         
                                         yeah
                                         
                                         you can see where they are
                                         
                                         on the airtags
                                         
    
                                         I was very proud yesterday
                                         
                                         just by the way
                                         
                                         so
                                         
                                         my granddaughter
                                         
                                         earlier
                                         
                                         niece
                                         
                                         she's
                                         
                                         three
                                         
    
                                         and
                                         
                                         her favourite little character
                                         
                                         one of the great things
                                         
                                         about having a grandchild
                                         
                                         is you can bring back
                                         
                                         your old material
                                         
                                         oh nice so I've with Elliot and his sister One of the great things about having a grandchild is you can bring back your old material. Ah, nice.
                                         
                                         So, I've, er, with Elliot and his sister, they used to like this shark, right?
                                         
    
                                         The shark used to come and eat everything.
                                         
                                         Give me all your, I'm going to eat your house.
                                         
                                         No, no, shark, don't eat my house.
                                         
                                         I'm hungry.
                                         
                                         Ah, this was only two weeks ago, stop doing it, I still love it.
                                         
                                         You're not going to come and eat it, did you enjoy that? Still, still, still still love it you're not going to come in did you enjoy that
                                         
                                         still now
                                         
                                         I'll get them come in
                                         
    
                                         and do it before bed
                                         
                                         I'll take all your drugs
                                         
                                         because I'm hungry
                                         
                                         so
                                         
                                         she likes to shark
                                         
                                         and sometimes she'll go
                                         
                                         dad dad
                                         
                                         because we had a dad dad
                                         
    
                                         is there a shark
                                         
                                         and they'll go out the room
                                         
                                         come back
                                         
                                         and go I'm hungry
                                         
                                         I've just eaten your your bedroom oh shark and then i was wanting to go up the co-op right so
                                         
                                         that's only about sort of three minutes walk you forgot to snub out a character
                                         
                                         the shark the shark's gone up the the co-op uh the race the shark's gone up up there so if we want to see the shark we'll have to go up there he's gone up there he's gone up the co-op race. The shark's gone up there.
                                         
                                         So if we want to see the shark, we'll have to go up there.
                                         
    
                                         He's gone up there.
                                         
                                         He's eaten all the food.
                                         
                                         All right, then, so we go up the co-op.
                                         
                                         And then I go into one little aisle and come out.
                                         
                                         And I go, I have eaten all the sandwiches and the pizzas.
                                         
                                         But you mustn't tell anybody that you saw me.
                                         
                                         All right, then, shark.
                                         
                                         And then I went back and come back as me.
                                         
    
                                         And I said, I can't find the shark
                                         
                                         have you seen him
                                         
                                         no
                                         
                                         you haven't seen the shark
                                         
                                         anywhere at all
                                         
                                         no
                                         
                                         and I thought
                                         
                                         my granddaughter's
                                         
    
                                         not a snitch
                                         
                                         I was
                                         
                                         Elliot used to
                                         
                                         rat that shark
                                         
                                         out on the table
                                         
                                         he used to
                                         
                                         fucking knock knock on the tape he used to fucking knock
                                         
                                         knock on the
                                         
    
                                         shark
                                         
                                         I was just
                                         
                                         going to say
                                         
                                         I was like the
                                         
                                         first
                                         
                                         you know
                                         
                                         I talk about
                                         
                                         phones and that
                                         
    
                                         so I was like
                                         
                                         the first generation
                                         
                                         of like phones
                                         
                                         coming into school
                                         
                                         like that being
                                         
                                         like smartphones
                                         
                                         being in
                                         
                                         smartphones
                                         
    
                                         I took a Nokia
                                         
                                         into sixth form
                                         
                                         for sure
                                         
                                         I mean like
                                         
                                         to the point of which, like,
                                         
                                         they didn't know how to deal with the problem of it.
                                         
                                         Like, it was like, in my school, they had a thing like,
                                         
                                         if we see your phone, we take it, your parent has to come in and get it.
                                         
    
                                         But because it was like, which is, when you really think about it,
                                         
                                         it's a really stupid thing to do.
                                         
                                         Because people need phones now.
                                         
                                         And there was one, I was in sixth form, where you'd rang me, actually,
                                         
                                         and my phone went off
                                         
                                         and i turned it off i went oh sorry about that and put it away and the teacher went oh you gotta
                                         
                                         hand me the phone i went oh i'll hand you the phone for the rest of the lesson but like it's
                                         
                                         friday it's about to be the weekend my parents aren't going to come in and get the phone i'm
                                         
    
                                         then without a phone for a weekend and i'm going out i went like say i needed a call my parents
                                         
                                         for say something happened like just logically
                                         
                                         it's better I have my phone and she was like well no you need to give it to me and I just went like
                                         
                                         yeah but you're not gonna get it I was like so let's drop this now because like we're just
                                         
                                         wasting everyone's time and so she went well I've got a code to call corridor support which is just
                                         
                                         oh you're is that just one of the nerdy kids? No, it's one of the teachers. Some teacher comes and I'm like,
                                         
                                         I was like, you can go get the president of the United States.
                                         
                                         I'm not handing over the phone.
                                         
    
                                         Like, it's not happening.
                                         
                                         That would have been quite something.
                                         
                                         You're at the army, I'm at the school.
                                         
                                         You're in the fucking...
                                         
                                         But like, no one, you can't physically...
                                         
                                         That would be quite a call to the White House.
                                         
                                         I'm afraid I'm too busy at the moment, sir.
                                         
                                         So I was just, so it ended up,
                                         
    
                                         it's like they kept going up a ladder.
                                         
                                         But it's the kid that won the war against Afghanistan.
                                         
                                         It's an important delegate.
                                         
                                         So it eventually ends up with me
                                         
                                         and like the head teachers of it.
                                         
                                         Because they sent me out a club
                                         
                                         They were doing all these things and I was good, but the whole time I know I still don't know
                                         
                                         I was logically I was great
                                         
    
                                         I was going you're dragging me out of education now for a thing that you could just be reasonable one
                                         
                                         Like I know that going off like I was in the wrong this whole time. Nobody's learning
                                         
                                         The class is starting to disengage because she's now arguing with Elliot people people were going in the class
                                         
                                         I don't hand over the phone, like the kids in the class started
                                         
                                         coming on my side
                                         
                                         my mate Jacob got sent out
                                         
                                         my mate Jacob got sent out
                                         
                                         because he was there going like
                                         
    
                                         right so we're meant to be doing something today
                                         
                                         and we're not because you can't back down on this
                                         
                                         like he came out like
                                         
                                         this is stupid, so he ended up with me in the
                                         
                                         head teacher's office, there's like 5 minutes that this has gone on
                                         
                                         like the whole period and he's gone like, look can stupid. So he ended up with me in the head teacher's office. There's like five minutes that this has gone on, like the whole period.
                                         
                                         And he's going like, look,
                                         
                                         can you just give me the phone?
                                         
    
                                         You'll go back to class and then come back here
                                         
                                         and I'll give you the phone back.
                                         
                                         I was like, all right.
                                         
                                         So I gave him the phone and I came back five minutes later
                                         
                                         and he gave me this like lecture on like, you know,
                                         
                                         needing a respect authority and gave me the phone back and i was just like the whole time going like
                                         
                                         that was a risk on your part because that teacher would have been like psyched motherfucker
                                         
                                         that was the only possible outcome in the end but i i get what you're saying but like that's
                                         
    
                                         where school i was glad i did school but i think there's a thing where it teaches you the thing
                                         
                                         with sometimes authority or something.
                                         
                                         You should question authority.
                                         
                                         You should question that.
                                         
                                         Like,
                                         
                                         uh,
                                         
                                         right.
                                         
                                         You know,
                                         
    
                                         when a company has a rule in place,
                                         
                                         like,
                                         
                                         you know,
                                         
                                         when you get somewhere
                                         
                                         and they're like,
                                         
                                         Oh,
                                         
                                         we can't do that,
                                         
                                         sir.
                                         
    
                                         And you go,
                                         
                                         why?
                                         
                                         Why?
                                         
                                         You can't,
                                         
                                         you can't be a nuisance
                                         
                                         enough to the point
                                         
                                         where you go,
                                         
                                         that's not a law.
                                         
    
                                         That's not a thing.
                                         
                                         You're just trying to stop me.
                                         
                                         So it's like a cafe
                                         
                                         that goes,
                                         
                                         you can have bacon and egg, bacon and beans, but you can't have egg and beans because we don't do egg and beans. It's not on the menu, so we're not going to stop me so it's like a cafe that goes you can have bacon and egg, bacon and beans but you can't
                                         
                                         have egg and beans because we don't do egg and beans
                                         
                                         it's not on the menu so we're not going to do it
                                         
                                         so you have to
                                         
    
                                         but you can
                                         
                                         so I remember
                                         
                                         two instances I remember
                                         
                                         from parents evening, one
                                         
                                         was the
                                         
                                         teacher who said that she told you off because
                                         
                                         uh you'd said i just don't think that you listen to us you remember this you just don't listen to
                                         
                                         us miss uh i feel that when when we say anything to you i might as well be saying it to those
                                         
    
                                         flowers over there remember this and then a little bit later in the lesson she said
                                         
                                         elliot have you got anything to say and you went over and said it to the flowers yeah and the class
                                         
                                         all laughed and that made her angry and then another one and this one this guy actually told
                                         
                                         me this and he was quite nerdy geography teacher mr dolan mr dolan but i quite liked him and he
                                         
                                         said that what he said yes well he asked
                                         
                                         interesting questions and he seems to take an interest and he's been doing quite well and
                                         
                                         obviously there's room for improvement i said oh thank you very much mr dolan so there is just one
                                         
                                         incident i should mention mr still i said god what's that he said well we were doing a project
                                         
    
                                         on britain's seaside towns and i asked the class if they had any particular seaside town that was their personal
                                         
                                         favourite and your son very quickly
                                         
                                         put his hand up and said Brighton
                                         
                                         and I said oh why Brighton
                                         
                                         and he said because Margaret Thatcher was nearly
                                         
                                         killed there
                                         
                                         laughter
                                         
                                         that's what he said in school
                                         
    
                                         and he even announced the Crystal Palace
                                         
                                         as an arch nemesis for Reagan
                                         
                                         just so he could laugh the joke
                                         
                                         because I could not have said Sunderland And now it's still like Crystal Palace's arch nemesis, just so you could laugh the joke.
                                         
                                         Because I could not have said Sunderland.
                                         
                                         Even if Margaret Thatcher was actually killed in Sunderland,
                                         
                                         I couldn't have said Sunderland.
                                         
                                         I don't remember.
                                         
    
                                         I don't remember.
                                         
                                         But there was, do you remember the one where the,
                                         
                                         I got in an argument with the teacher because she said Che Guevara was Cuban.
                                         
                                         Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                         He was Argentinian. And he was cuban oh yeah and i got sent to
                                         
                                         the head teacher there was this teacher and we were doing a thing about shea guevara she's talking
                                         
                                         about it was cuban i went i wasn't cuban he was argentinian and she got in and she got a bit rude
                                         
                                         she was like i think she was a substitute teacher and she went well you know i've got a history
                                         
    
                                         degree and i went wow and you're teaching a class and then i went and then i did pull i went uh my
                                         
                                         dad only like wrote a bbc show about it but you know you've got a history degree and then I went and then I did pull I went my dad only like wrote a BBC show about it
                                         
                                         but you know
                                         
                                         you've got a history degree
                                         
                                         and then so
                                         
                                         I was like
                                         
                                         you know like
                                         
                                         like my dad hasn't got
                                         
    
                                         a history degree
                                         
                                         and got a BBC show
                                         
                                         out of it
                                         
                                         but you know
                                         
                                         well done being a substitute
                                         
                                         I'm sure his editors
                                         
                                         wouldn't have let it through
                                         
                                         if it was a lie
                                         
    
                                         yeah well
                                         
                                         and like
                                         
                                         because she did get
                                         
                                         like but I know
                                         
                                         I was being a cunt
                                         
                                         but she got cunty
                                         
                                         so I got sent
                                         
                                         to the head teacher's office
                                         
    
                                         and she was like
                                         
                                         well you've got to apologise
                                         
                                         and I'm like I'm not apologising for being correct I'm not apologising for being correct like I was being a cunt, but she got cunty. So I got sent to the head teacher's office and she was like, well, you've got to apologise.
                                         
                                         And I'm like,
                                         
                                         I'm not apologising for being correct.
                                         
                                         I'm not apologising for being correct.
                                         
                                         I was like,
                                         
                                         I'll apologise for the way I was aborted.
                                         
    
                                         No, not even that.
                                         
                                         Fuck her, innit?
                                         
                                         You're a substitute teacher.
                                         
                                         There was a guy that was a trade union official,
                                         
                                         quite a prominent trade union official.
                                         
                                         And he,
                                         
                                         you know,
                                         
                                         he's one of everything.
                                         
    
                                         Everything's a little bit
                                         
                                         of a confrontation with him.
                                         
                                         And he was telling me, he said, all right, they got a little bit of a confrontation with him and he was telling me,
                                         
                                         he said,
                                         
                                         all right,
                                         
                                         they got my parents,
                                         
                                         my daughter,
                                         
                                         my daughter was like 12 or something like that,
                                         
    
                                         right,
                                         
                                         and he says,
                                         
                                         so the teacher said,
                                         
                                         I've got a race issue with you
                                         
                                         because she questioned me
                                         
                                         in class about something
                                         
                                         and I said,
                                         
                                         all right,
                                         
    
                                         did she?
                                         
                                         And she was sat there,
                                         
                                         I said,
                                         
                                         did you question him in class?
                                         
                                         She said,
                                         
                                         I did,
                                         
                                         dad,
                                         
                                         yeah,
                                         
    
                                         I said,
                                         
                                         what did you question him about?
                                         
                                         And she told me
                                         
                                         and I said,
                                         
                                         right, so was you wrong? And he said, being wrong is not uh is not a matter sir and i said but was you wrong and he said well that's not the issue at stake i said well i'm asking you
                                         
                                         was you wrong and he said well i said was you wrong and he went well yeah i was wrong but on
                                         
                                         this occasion i've got 10 quid out of my pocket. I said, there you are, darling. Always remember to question people when they're wrong.
                                         
                                         Right, that's it.
                                         
    
                                         He's also the same bloke who was sort of emceeing this big political rally.
                                         
                                         I can't remember what the issue was now in London.
                                         
                                         Somewhere, thousands of people there.
                                         
                                         And he was sort of introducing various people, and I was about to go and speak.
                                         
                                         And he went, I can now tell you, this is all the crowd,
                                         
                                         he said, I can now tell you that very proudly
                                         
                                         this demonstration on Twitter is currently trending above Ebola.
                                         
                                         That's the goal,
                                         
    
                                         that's where we all want to be.
                                         
                                         We want to be trending
                                         
                                         above all this.
                                         
                                         Man,
                                         
                                         I could do this all day.
                                         
                                         This has been talking class
                                         
                                         finding out about your school days
                                         
                                         and shit from your dad's perspective.
                                         
    
                                         I was such a little cunt
                                         
                                         when I was retelling those stories.
                                         
                                         I'm in a room and all of this.
                                         
                                         But I've got an eight hour drive
                                         
                                         back to Glasgow
                                         
                                         because we've just done a few dates of the tour. We've those stories I was like I'm in the wrong but I've got an eight hour drive back to Glasgow because we've just done
                                         
                                         a few dates of the tour
                                         
                                         we've just
                                         
    
                                         we're like a week
                                         
                                         into the tour
                                         
                                         there's plenty more dates
                                         
                                         to see
                                         
                                         kaihunfries.com
                                         
                                         if you want to see me
                                         
                                         it's been good
                                         
                                         can't do some
                                         
    
                                         Newcastle dates with you
                                         
                                         yeah please do
                                         
                                         that breaking gig
                                         
                                         was meant last night
                                         
                                         and yeah
                                         
                                         thanks for having us here
                                         
                                         do you have a tour
                                         
                                         to plug yourself Mark
                                         
    
                                         oh I've got a tour
                                         
                                         to plug
                                         
                                         it's been announced
                                         
                                         when does this go out
                                         
                                         this will be out tomorrow it's been announced when does this go out this will be out
                                         
                                         tomorrow
                                         
                                         it's been announced
                                         
                                         on the 24th
                                         
    
                                         so I think there's
                                         
                                         about 40 dates
                                         
                                         coming up
                                         
                                         I don't know where
                                         
                                         they are but
                                         
                                         they'll be all over
                                         
                                         the place
                                         
                                         yeah so keep an eye
                                         
    
                                         if Mark Steele's
                                         
                                         going to be coming
                                         
                                         to somewhere near you
                                         
                                         and go see him
                                         
                                         because he's class
                                         
                                         and Elliot you've
                                         
                                         got your social
                                         
                                         yeah I'll be announcing
                                         
    
                                         things within the
                                         
                                         next few months
                                         
                                         and yeah I'll see you
                                         
                                         on the road and I'll
                                         
                                         see you on the next
                                         
                                         podcast thank you
                                         
                                         very much
                                         
