Sloss and Humphries On The Road - Sour Milk
Episode Date: February 6, 2020Muggins is back with substitute host Elliot "Milk" Steel who has started the year by being dumped, perpetually seshing and putting on weight. For the majority of the episode they talk shop about the p...olitics of the Edinburgh Fringe Festival which is the comedy podcast equivalent of putting up Xmas decorations in June.Â
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Sloss and Humphreys on the road!
Muggins and cream, creaming muggins, straight thugging, living the dream
And that's our intro
Fucking muggles!
Tickling the clit inside your head that makes you laugh
Woohoo!
Ha ha ha!
They said it can't be done
Are we in the same seats?
That's hack
Ah, muggles!
Accidental rim job in the park
Kiss kiss kiss
Or am I just being cynical?
Just muggled it up on fucking Mugglepedia
Where have you been since 9-11?
So I'm sat here with Elliot Steele
and we've just been getting annoyed
because I unplugged my PlayStation
to plug it in the Mac so I could record this.
And I just know, Elliot,
that it's going to give us grief later.
It's such a blasted-up machine.
My PS4 is going to fucking go,
oh, you didn't turn this off properly.
Like, please, don't do that again
it actually gives you
like a paragraph
like a too long
didn't read
fucking paragraph
of fucking why
you shouldn't turn it off
right you know
when they were making
Terminator
and they envisioned
like Skynet
and the rise of machines
right
if they really wanted
to get it accurate
they'd have made
machines big whiny bitches
I'm just watching
I just go
oh you didn't
you've got a
you've got a
soft reset
that's first
you've got
the power source
remember just
because I'm in stand by it could affect my memory I just go oh you didn't you've got a you've got a soft reset this first my power source remember just because
I'm in standby
it doesn't mean I'm off
could affect my memory
it's going to gaslight you
I'm fucking sure
I actually got annoyed
because I didn't know
what I was going to unplug
it could have been
the projector
it could have been
the fire stick
it could have been
the playstation
I had an array of things
to unplug
and I saw the light
going off the playstation
my heart sank
going to get gaslit
by the playstation do you know how I know you're annoyed, get off your PlayStation, my heart sank. Got to get gaslit by your PlayStation.
Do you know how I know you're annoyed
you didn't do your little idiom thing
before the podcast stuff?
It's because we started having a good conversation
before I pressed record.
I thought I'd dive straight in.
So now for introductions, people.
So the last podcast we did this year,
now that we're not on tour,
so it's not expected to be regular,
we're just going to sporadically
put out
podcasts now and again
the last one was
Muggins and Cream Classic
just the two of us
no guests
and it was nice because
Cream was getting
his life in order
he's moved into his house
he's got piggies
moving in
and I don't know
if that's too much information
but he's got a therapy
he's
I don't know if that's
too much information
he's bought a new car
I didn't ask a piggy moving inper mention he's bought a new car he's
I didn't ask
Piggy moving in
and him going to therapy
or a light
but
nah
he's on top form
he's getting his shit together
now I'm sat here
with podcast
regular co-host
Milk
whose life is just
a shit
fucking new decade
terrible terrible
version of him
your lass has dumped you
she's moving to the
other side of the world
she's gone to her country.
That's on fire.
That's on fire.
There's fires.
And she's just like, nah, mate, I'm done.
And she's fucked off.
And she's out in Australia.
And you've hit the drink.
Yeah.
You've picked up a habit.
Yeah.
You went to a pre-cocaine anonymous meeting.
And then realised that your habit wasn't that bad.
I went to a therapy thing and they were
talking to me about it and then they were telling
me about some of the people in there
and literally the stories will be
like, yeah man, so
on my kid's eighth birthday he really
wanted a PlayStation 2 and we managed
to pull some money together and get it and
a few weeks later I
needed a
hit so I didn't even see it as a birthday gift.
I saw it as a hit.
Also PS2.
Yeah.
Oh, this guy's had his problem for years.
It's a backdating story.
He's clean now and he's sharing with everyone what he did.
Yeah, yeah.
This is historic.
He told it in an anonymous meeting, not realising I had a podcast to
do
he thought I was
taking notes as a
sponsor I was
there for material
his kids pierced
him
he's good
he's like he's
good and you
know and now I
haven't seen my
kid in years
because he's
never forgiven
me and I'm
like yeah no
nightmare the
other week I
had to dip into
the overdraft by
20 quid
I'm fine it no the other week I had to dip into the overdraft by 20 quid I'm fine
it was more
it's more my
my
well ex-girlfriend
wanted me to go
because you found this
like
when you
when someone comes out
of a previous
the previous relationship
she was in
she was going out
with this guy
who was like a
like a head of HSBC
and all of these things
that made me
I don't know if I'm
meant to tell this,
but fuck it.
What's she going to do?
Break up with me again.
Um,
and,
uh,
so he had like a real legit drug issue,
cocaine problem.
This is an ex.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Her ex had a real issue.
And I find when people come out of relationships,
they'll then see something and go,
Oh my God,
I'm about to go through that again.
And it's like,
nah,
I'm out with the lads for a first time in a couple of weeks.
This is all.
Can I disconnect that and go,
no,
actually he's,
I know what it looks like to have a problem and whatever.
So you must have a problem.
No,
no,
no.
If somebody that recognizes a problem,
fucking tap me on the shoulder.
No,
it's when people. I thought you saw another person. I know, but like, look, because I don'tises a problem fucking tapped me on the shoulder no it's when people
I know but like look
I don't have a problem
I make you look like Charlie Sheen
it's not right
you're just like a party
I just go to a party every couple of weeks
and probably stay a bit longer than I'm meant to
and I stay my welcome
and I come on here and it's like a fucking episode
of intervention.
No,
I just find it funny
because when Daniel
popped up to visit,
he'd been out at the gym,
he'd been training and all that
and you just come in
and you fucking
put on a bit of 30 pounds.
I'm looking good.
You're looking quite stocky.
I've been going to Muay Thai,
I've been training.
What are you weighing in that now?
Did you say over 100 pounds?
Yeah, I was 100 kilos.
100 pounds.
Fucking what am I attacking?
100 kilos.
That's fucking flyweight.
Yeah, I'm 100 kilos.
100 kilos.
Yeah.
But that's like muscle and fat.
But once I slim down, I'll get down to about 85.
You're a tall boy as well.
Yeah, I'm like 6'1".
But you are right.
You're holding up well
because
going through my first break up
am I right in thinking this right
so she had this
like
what the lead is applicable
if there's anything
you didn't want us to say
she was always planned
to go travelling
yeah
so there was always a sell by date
there's one thing we can't talk about
and you know what that is already
okay
yeah
the sell by date on your relationship was like there was always a sell-by date. There's one thing we can't talk about and you know what that is already. Ah, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The sell-by date on your relationship was like,
possibly the only thing keeping you together.
But it had a sell-by date.
She had plans that she was going travelling.
Yeah.
So you went out with her
knowing that she was going to go travelling
for over a year
and you don't know
if you want to have this distance relationship.
She doesn't want to go travelling
with the pressure of also trying to maintain a relationship.
Oh, God, yeah.
That's stupid.
So it's impossible.
So she's gone away.
And I, if you just asked at the stage, she probably would have, wouldn't she?
Yeah.
Yeah, I found that out the other day.
That was a nice...
No, I was trying to be mature and trying to be all like I wouldn't want the pressure
of someone staying
being me
do you know what I mean
I wouldn't want
like if the reason you stay
is because of me
let's be
yeah
and also
it needs to be her decision
yeah
very mature
however
sometimes
don't be mature
sometimes
just get down on one knee
and
beg
please don't beg get your inner playstation 4 and gaslight the fuck out of someone
but um but no it's you know what it's a nice bit like i i've learned a lot through it i'm no longer
i've dealt with a lot of my internalized misogyny i've realized that um
right where i was in a position before i was actually dating shit people i was going out
with shit people and i'm blaming the whole female species going you're all right and we call them
species may mean you haven't dealt with it fully what are they they're not human female of the species the female of the species no i'm
joking but like no i dealt with uh like i'd realized and i see it with lads as well um girls
who do it with lads as well like i see on twitter a lot it's now that a way to get retweets is like
these a lot of girls are doing a thing going like how come like i'm 24 but i'm dating guys who are
25 and they're doing all that and I'm just like alright all your tweets
are about this
so either you date shit people
or you're the problem
because you're the
common denominator
and is this the part
you're fishing in
is this the DMs
you're sliding into
no no no
passive aggressive
I've not been DM sliding
she seems vulnerable
now I mean like
in your previous life
before you met
yeah
well
I
I don't know
I think you've got to go
through a stage of dating
like
you only learn
through experience
you've got to go through
a stage of dating
shit people
and you will be a shit person
to someone as well
I'm not going to sit here
and be like
I haven't
there's people
there's about
10 less podcast fans
and people coming to your show
because of me
but
and I hold my hand up I pay podcast fans and people coming to your show because of me.
And I hold my hand up.
I pay Danny 50 quid a year as a little... Ah, you just kick back.
Because it gets...
These are regular stuff coming to work on progress shows and stuff.
Yeah, I know.
Because you pick them up and gaslight them.
I don't gaslight.
Maybe.
But, no, I've never gaslighted.
But it's, you know what I mean?
You've got to date of, when you date someone,
instead of, like, what I do is, if something were to go wrong,
and I'll be like, you see, fucking women, this, this, and this.
And what you're really saying is, like,
mummy didn't hug me enough growing up,
and now I've got to fucking get myself out of it.
And you're identifying that.
Yeah, yeah.
Whereas, I think it's good to get out of that. It's important if you go through that get myself out of it. And you're identifying that. Yeah, yeah. Whereas I think it's good to get out of that.
It's important if you go through that,
get out of that.
Don't be in your 30s and still be that guy.
Yeah, it's a strange one
because I've never been that guy.
Well, we can't all be perfect.
That was recently in your wife's apartment
that she pays for.
It's a good way.
You've made some salmon
so you feel
that's your job done
I've actually started
chipping in
since I moved in
oh how nice of you
I'm hardly gonna
you know when I'm just
living on the road
in hotels all the time
like I had my stuff
here for a bit
and like it was the
place I went back to
but now I've pretty much
moved in
it's nice
pay me way
but it was good for a while
danny just paid out of my hotels and that rent anyway that was a nice little there coast
and that i did but uh i'm back to being a real human now it's class as well by the way just
being at home and it's the best man especially the position you're in where you're like you have
earned time off if you if you want to go like
i'm gonna take two i'm not gonna gig for three weeks and i'm gonna sit in front of the tv and
i'm gonna go legit i'm gonna do whatever i'm just gonna sit on the sofa it's so good when you've
earned that oh it's it's class it's it's it's hard to be like i've been motivated with writing
because i've been waiting for that like creative uh output somewhere to put it and i've been motivated with writing because I've been waiting for that creative output, some way to put it.
And I've been putting myself on open mic nights.
I went up to Edinburgh a couple of times to jump on Danny's things.
I've done one in London on Tuesday gone and I'm getting that fired up.
But I'm not really looking for work.
I've put my name on some nice gigs, you know, like hot water gigs
and the stores and the stands and stuff.
Stuff to look forward to.
Yeah, like proper gigs for the soul and just to keep myself fresh too
because I didn't want to get on rusty.
Nah.
But I'm,
for every week I'm doing,
I'm taking a week off
and I've got like,
fucking,
so much time off scheduled in.
And I really like,
and I mean,
it's like,
I get to spend time at home
with my wife
for the first time
since we got married.
Yeah,
right.
Being belted.
It's nice to get to know the person.
It is, it's just class get to know the person it is
she's class
she's proper class
I was telling you earlier
she's properly getting into the football
she's become a massive Newcastle fan
she's fully invested in the Newcastle journey
so we'll watch the football together
and if I'm away
she's watching on her own
she's properly into it
we're probably live for our Super Sundays whether I'm at home for the weekend if I'm away she's watching on her own and that's just thing she's properly into it so we're probably
if I'm a super sunday
like whether I'm at home
for the weekend
or I'm away for the weekend
I'll get back
and we'll just probably
bed in and watch the football
oh lovely
it's been a good time
I've got a weekend
to watch football
with one of my favourite people
in the world
to watch football with
Ryan Collin
oh it's class
he's so delusional
he's so delusional
but not that
he just
in the middle of a game
picks a player
to hate
to hate
and like he kept going to me
like when we were at altitude
he keeps going
we were watching a few
United games with each other
over the last few years
Manchester United
and he goes
this week we're going to watch
the spectacular decline
of Nemanja Matic
who the last couple of weeks
has been man of the match
in every game
he's scored
he's scored
he's an idiot
he's got a real good job
of like
pointing out
what the shit is
playing on the pitch
and then them
going on to score a hat-rick
oh yeah
he started moaning
just to explain
about like
how delusional he is
he started moaning
about
Dechamp
from France
Dechamp
not picking Lacazette
Dechamp
who just won
the World Cup
the easiest
anyone's ever won it.
Sorry to be happening about footballers.
There's a bunch of American people listening from the US to soccer.
So Ryan Cullen complained that one of his Arsenal players didn't get brought into the French squad.
And then the French squad went on to win the World Cup convincingly.
After the French squad had won, it was still complained.
That it was a mistake
they couldn't have done
any better
that guy did not make
a single mistake
he won it
he won the tournament
he cleaned up
at the tournament
like by
by the
by the quarter finals
it was evident
they were going to win it
like even
even if England
had got to that final
it was
we go to
it would have been
we go to the final
to lose to France
there was no
you go to the final and beat them France there was no you go to the final
and beat them
but yeah
so you're going to
watch some stuff
with him
where is that
this weekend
yeah I'm at the
Gilded Balloon
basement this weekend
do you know what
fuck it
it's down to them
to sell tickets
not me
what are you talking about
my gigs this weekend
you're going to plug
your weekend gig
nah fuck that
it's down to them
to sell the tickets
I'm just
I can't still give it a plug I'm doing a game nah fuck that he's down to them to sell the tickets I'm just I'm like I'm not
still giving a plug
doing your
I'm not a gilded balloon
basement theatre thing
oh fucking
you go out
are you baiting
behind that feed
are you
suck my dick
I ain't
I ain't lifting a finger
if I don't have to
this is why
I ain't never reached
this full potential
this is why I went reached this full potential.
This is why I went from the young, promising comedian to the lad in his mid-twenties that never really got going.
I'm the Lacazette of the comedy scene.
No, I don't...
I mean, he's doing quite well, but...
No, I will.
I've got gigs to plug.
I will plug them at the end of the podcast.
I'm not going to do it halfway through it
while we're on a roll
with banter
but anyway
if you would like to see me
in Edinburgh this weekend
I will be at the
Gilded Balloon
basement theatre
please don't
fucking tell them
they're quite powerful people
I shouldn't have
yeah I do that
Gilded Balloon
that's who I do
the fringe with most years
that's who I do
the fringe with most years
which I am
I don't know if I'm doing
the fringe with
yeah I'm writing a show
should we talk about
the politics of the Fringe?
People are usually interested in that.
If we just go like,
hell for leather on it,
fucking,
fucking bruv,
because it's,
it's absolute,
the Fringe is run by scumbags.
There's a lot of,
a lot of the venues you can't make a profit from,
right?
There's like,
the reason that I've avoided them,
whether they would have accepted me or not,
is the pleasance in the assembly, which the financial arrangement with them is
you sell out every single gig, perform to the best of your ability,
and you end up owing them money.
Yeah.
Well, they do a thing to people to understand where the money goes in Edinburgh.
They do a thing called a,
usually if you do a theatre, there'll be a guarantee.
It's to say someone went, I want to book Kai Humphries,
but he's got to sell the tickets on a 100-seater venue,
but what I'm going to give Kai Humphries is a 300-pound guarantee.
So no matter how many tickets Kai Humphries sells,
I will give Kai 300 pounds for his time coming,
and then on top of it.
That's how sometimes a tour show will work.
Sometimes it will work on like a 70-30 split.
With Edinburgh, what they do is they go, you've got to guarantee us £2,000.
So you've got a guarantee to play our venue, £2,000.
So if you don't sell £2,000 worth of tickets, you've got to pay us £2,000.
Plus the ticket split, which is at 60-40.
Now, out of that 60-40, there's also a box office charge, which is 5%. So then 55% of the money you earn goes to the venue.
Then there's another 20% VAT you've got to pay.
So you come away with 35%.
And then with that 35% that you get
you need to do
your poster campaign
your flyers
your flyers for the month
your accommodation
which is going to be
about the price of it
so you end up
fucking losing
a ton of money
so the Guild of Balloon
who you're with this weekend
have always looked after us
they've been good
they've been good
to Guild of Balloon
I'll say that
they've been very good
to me
I've generally went in
sold out the weekends getting around about 60% of my room full on very good to me. I've generally went in, sold out the weekends,
getting around about 60% of my room full on the slow Wednesdays.
So I've done like R8 numbers wise on 100 seat a room.
And I've always come away with a profit at the end of it.
This is mainly because, one, I stayed Daniels for just regular normal people rent
rather than fucking marked up we're
gonna charge you two grand for the month I paid two grand for a single bed last
year yes more room yes ring one from it so that's what we're doing on this
podcast now we're gonna show you behind the curtains on the inner work into the
fringe festival if this is boring for probably my wife that's alright just
tune out and so then you've got that cost. So straight away, I stay at my mate's house.
I give normal people rent.
And then the second one is the big poster campaigns.
I opt out of it because you're never going to have the conversion rate.
If you pay for them big posters,
then you're never going to get the amount of ticket sales required to pay for them ever.
And even if you do, you're just going to cover
them so if you get big posters around the fringe for me all your dana's just going i'm here look
at me i'm here i'm at the fringe basically yeah it's supposed to be the point of a big poster is
right so it's kind of like everything works it's to put yourself in people's minds industries means
the walk past your poster yes but then if you start getting really good reviews the stars go
on the poster so like i have it before i will not see someone show but know they're having a good
fringe because i walk around there'll be stars over their poster yeah i'm like okay cool um so
it's a little billboard to put their stars on yes so it's it's a big gamble then the same people are
working on reviews don't mean like the same people are like the politics of
that is so insane i think reviews mean i know from last year i had my first year where i started
getting some really nice reviews it made a big difference oh no then then it's nice isn't it yeah
you know what i mean like i was very anti-reviews until i was until i went up with it oh yeah when
you're coming in with a two-star review for your show, you're going, who's this cunt
working for three weeks?
He only works three weeks
of the year.
That's how fucking
professional an outfit you are.
Like slagging them off.
What are you,
a student?
Are you trying to build up
a portfolio
by giving a bad review
so you can show off
your writing?
And then the minute
that same person
gives you a nice review,
you're like,
oh my God,
this is fucking
one of the main publications.
Like the fucking,
the absolute hypocrisy
of the way people
deal with the reviews
so I got a story
for that
so I was living
with Tom Horton
this year
who let me say
beforehand
this person's
opinion of his show
does not reflect
my opinion
I thought Tom
had a fucking
belt of show
yeah he writes
a good show
Tom has had
one of my
favorite shows
ever
I fucking
I love his shows
I love him as a
stand-up as well
as a mate yeah
so he in the
first few days
got two stars
I'm bleeping that bit
he got two stars
from a publication
quite a well known publication
I sat around with it
because you know
when you get that
it does hurt
it's like
you've put your hours
into making this show
and then someone comes up
watches the show
and doesn't get it
fuck you
right that person gave me four stars and they are a hell of an author and I wish them and then someone comes up, watches the show and doesn't get it, fuck you, right?
That person gave me four stars
and they are a hell of an author
and I wish them all the best
in their ever endeavours.
It was the exact same person.
It was the exact same person.
The exact same person.
I think they may be a little bit classy.
Don't you?
I think they might just have good taste.
And so,
and then like my numbers really,
because I was dealing with like, I was having days where like, I was getting like 10 and 12 and it was kind numbers really because I was dealing with
like I was having days
where like
I was getting like
10 and 12
and it was kind of
frustrating you know
and then that came along
and suddenly I was just
having like
full room
full room
but even then
you have to continue it
because you only have
full room for a few
amounts of days
and your audience
changes then
your audience goes from
like people have taken
a chance and really
enjoyed this good show
to people's high expectations
to people coming and going this needs to be better than the other four star show I've seen.
So then you're thrown into this competitive world.
It's a fucking...
And here's the other thing with the fringe, yeah.
People come...
Like people tell me I had a good fringe who never saw my show only because they saw the reviews I got.
So I suddenly realised the industry only fucking takes notice of who's getting good reviews which means
you have to post them on facebook you have to take a photo of the sold out board and put it on
social media it's such a posture and thing you see fucking um tim vine ended up putting a poster
around like 2014 or something like that and he wasn't even at the fringe and he took up the
biggest spot
yeah yeah
Tim Vine will not
be performing at
this year's Edinburgh
Fringe
yeah that was
what the poster was
it's fucking amazing
it's such a
it's such a shit fight
and yeah so we've
got so Tom getting
that like this is
what sucks a dick
right that fucking
18 year old
budding writer
that fucking
talk shit about
Tom in his review.
No, no, she was about in her 30s.
She was quite experienced, really.
Experienced writer.
Really knew her stuff.
Listen, this isn't me downplaying Tom.
This is me just talking.
New York Times bestseller.
Yeah.
Won the Pulitzer Award.
So, this person
JK Rowling
I think her name
was
I love that
reviews used to
just be gone
the day after
used to be
wrapping their
chips up
the next day
now they're
immortalised
online
so yeah
Tom went with
The Pleasants
last year
who is already
it's a
non-profit
adventure
that you're
going to profit
from in the long run if enough
industry sees you which i think he has had there yeah but they're a registered charity by the way
so they're also tax avoiding i'll go on record and say they are fucking like what are they going
to do to me like they they they get charitable status so they don't have to pay tax like oh wow
and then charge for making a minimum contribution like oh probably because
once a year
they put on a show
to be like
hey we've
done our bit
for like
cancer research
or anything
but there's also
all these expenses
that we've got to pay
so here's
£10 cancer research
good luck
I don't know
if that's true
I've made that up
but what the fuck
I don't know
I'm just taking
no word for that one
so the
yes like he would he would have gotten a pr team as well to get like more referrals in more industry
on him which is where it comes up in the long run but fuck me that's so bullshit if you're like
if you're putting so much fucking work into your show and so much financial backing into the
production of it and then someone just talks shit about you online on a fucking blog. Like, what a fucking nonsense festival.
Yeah, it's...
And then...
So, right, let's go through the venues, right?
Pleasance.
Pleasance and assembly, I've never dealt with
because I've always looked at the fucking bottom lane
and just went, I'm a business man.
To be fair, to speak about the pleasance and the assembly,
I know I'm cutting them off.
I have never dealt with it.
I've never dealt with them.
And I know they can.
The Pleasance is like,
if you're doing your first show,
that is the venue to be at.
Yeah.
And I'm talking about this like,
like fucking,
like I wouldn't want to go with them.
Like,
I don't know if they'd ever want me.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
I wouldn't fuck Scott,
you know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
I'm very fucking aware
of the situation
yeah
so Kill the Balloon
have always looked after us
and I like them
I think there's a lot of
building work going on
they're under construction
this year
so they haven't got as many
rooms or venues
I don't know where
they're at this year
and I wasn't there last year
so
I was going to look into
going with the underbelly
and then
I asked my Scottish friends about the situation with the underbelly.
I've worked with the underbelly before and they were good by me.
They saw me first venue in 2010.
They backed us again in 2011.
And then this year in Hogmanay,
they started charging Scottish people to access their own home.
So they ran the street party.
And whether this was Edinburgh City Council being gold diggers
or them being gold diggers or what the situation was,
like this is, again, I didn't read any of the articles that were up about it.
I don't know any of the ins and outs, but I've spoke to Scottish people
and they are not happy.
And the Scottish people, they hold a grudge Scottish people they hold a grudge really hold a
grudge and like I'm in this difficult situation where like that would have
been really nice to return back to underbelly come back to the fringe
Greg and I like you get again I don't know if the other had us and if I
started communications with them and but I've got a lot of people from Scotland
that would want to come to my show
and they might have a conflict of interest.
Even Daniel, who's fucking quite vocal about it because he's an Edinburgh citizen,
he's quite vocal about it.
He doesn't want to drink in the underbelly bar this year
and the underbelly bar is where we drink.
Yeah, our friends all fucking hang and run it.
it's where we yeah our friends
all fucking
hang
hang and run it
and then
he's
I kind of rely on
Daniel plugging
my show
at his show
yeah
so a lot of people
that go to his
will come to mine
and I get like
a bit of a trickle down
and I don't want to put him
in the position
of having to plug
a thing
an underbelly show
yeah that he's
that he's got a conflict with
so then I'm looking at that
and then
I think the ethical choice
is the stand.
I'd really like to go with the stand.
I think they're fucking fantastic.
I work with them all year round
at their other venues.
I had my solo show
at their Newcastle venue.
But they look after
a lot of Scottish acts
and they have a lot of return.
They've got a few regulars
so it's like,
can I get onto that roster?
So I'm going to really try
and get in.
I'm going to really try
and get in.
So it looks like you're just
going to be busking
doing stand-up
in the middle of
a size pie,
just pie make-up.
And let's get onto that.
That's the other option
is the free fringe.
I love the fact that I said busking
and you've just immediately gone,
oh yeah,
the other option,
free fringe.
It's busking?
Yeah, it is.
The thing I'll tell you
about the free fringe from I've done two free fringe shows yeah yeah one was a double header
which was a disaster because they put us in the fuck in the nowhere the one i did last year at
12 15 bannermans bannermans the staff there treated me better than anywhere else i've ever been
yeah in terms of i turn up every day everything in terms of yeah i've done venues where even paid
venues you turn up and things aren't quite set up right and a good thing with a paid venue is
because you're paying for it it means and it sounds dicky you can send someone from your agency
and to be like to someone hey let's fucking can we have the lights working properly can we have
this can we have that because you are paying a lot of money to be there and sometimes we're free i
feel like you can't walk in and go hey guys can you do this because
nah they're doing their bar shift it's down to you to do it turn up to bannermans not a problem
everything was fired walking every day they gave me a red bull a glass of water never charged me
for it they were just sound as fuck the room was one of the best rooms i've ever done there wasn't
any noise bleed and it was genuinely genuinely, I was going like...
Yeah, and you were getting a better product
than you have done from Patreons in the past.
Yeah, so the great thing about the Patreons
is the gilded front of house have always been phenomenal.
The same with, by the way,
when I slag off the Pleasants and things like that,
I don't mean people who work there at a box office
or doing their job,
or even people who are high up ranking.
I mean... The millionaires. The a box office or doing their job, or even people were high up ranking. I mean...
The millionaires.
The millionaire.
The company itself that exploits everyone in the middle of it
and then goes like,
and makes itself out to be some left-wing charitable company
because it has left-wing charitable people working at it
while still taking the profits of the workers
while putting on a communist show.
Karl Marx once said,
no one who is a landlord can ever be someone of the workers while putting on a communist show karl marx once said no one who is a um a landlord
can ever be someone of the people and i really feel that about people who run companies and
pretend to be these left-wing kind of things anyway i'll get off my soapbox now but so so yeah
the the the thing with the free fringe i love that. A few years ago, some fucking top, top actors like Joel Dommert and Immanuel Seth and that
lit it up as a plausible option.
It's going over at the free fringe.
People get nominated on it.
And all of a sudden, it takes away from these soulless money makers.
And it makes it a bit more for the people because you can make a profit.
The reason I call it busking is you ask for a donation at the end
because they can put in nothing
or they can put in something.
Now the iZettels come
so people can contact,
let's pay on the way out.
Yeah, I don't do that.
But this is where I think
it's not the free fringe.
It's like,
if you walk out without paying,
you've done a social faux pas.
It's not free.
It's now, Yeah. It's not free. Yeah, I...
I remember Jared Christmas telling us
his cousin come down or something to the Fringe
and she was like, oh, it's great here.
The free Fringe is awesome.
I've been to like seven shows in two days
and haven't spent a penny.
And Jared was just embarrassed.
He was like, no, you're meant to make a donation.
Like they're my friends, they're people like me,
colleagues, my fucking brothers and sisters
and you literally
just took something
from them for free
but I'm like
it's called the free fringe
why would you
yeah I always had a thing
it should be called
the busker's fringe
yeah right
last year
I had an excellent show
like my show was really good
so
according to that review
according to that
according to several
but
but I wouldn't mind on the way out if like,
especially like,
it is nice.
I can understand why.
What would be annoying is people,
I don't know how to explain it.
People who put in like two pence,
who've made that,
like, just leave my fucking show.
Just stare at me in the eye.
Oh, they're the people that tap the bottom
of the collection tree at church.
Stare me in the eye and walk out as a broke person
because I don't really care too much,
but you motherfucker getting me excited
for me to looking at this.
Have you ever done that
where you've reached
into your pocket
for like a homeless person
asking you for change
and you reach into your pocket
and you pull your hand out
and you've got like 14p
in an assortment of
fives and twos and ones
and you're like
oh no
I wish I'd just said no
I've done it where
I've gone into my pocket
and just pulled out
a middle finger
and laughed
no
just waved my house keys in their face.
I go into my pocket and I pull out a sandwich
and just eat it in front of them.
What funny...
Listen.
Man, I had a situation.
Let's get off the fringe for a second
and let's talk about more.
Let's do this.
What a horrible thing to say.
I had a situation where I bought Alice new bedding, right?
And I had all my previous bedding.
And then all I wanted to do was give it to charity shops.
Because it's like, I washed it and cleaned it and it was there, ready to go.
And it's like cold on the streets of London.
And no charity shops will take it
and no, you know the bin delivery thing
the bins where you can put charity clothes
none of them will take it. Why?
I guess hygiene
is where you've been shagging. Someone's fucked in
yeah, fair enough. It might be that
but like fuck man
all I was thinking is, and then I was like
I was chatting to Natalie and she was like, should we, all I was thinking is, and then I was like, I was chatting to Natalie
and she was like, should we just offer it to someone?
She was just like, stop someone in the street,
say, hey, do you want this duvet?
And Natalie was like, if we do do that,
she was like, it has to be you that does it
because you look like you're way closer
to being the next person.
You should have it.
If Natalie does it, she just looks like a fucking, in there so you can party if Natalie doesn't
she just looks
like a fucking
pat yourself
on your back
yeah
fucking yoga
going
fucking
gluten free
motherfucker
that's just
trying to
buy
buy yourself
some nice
karma tickets
where I'm
going to
make man
the struggles
real I'm
one bad
fucking
decision
away from
you I don't it's where I'm going to end up with them going, mate, man, the struggle's real, I'm one bad fucking decision away from you,
you had gotten it too big.
This girl,
just living in Australia,
was exactly like that.
She is the most like,
sort of,
we've got to help people
and all of this sort of stuff,
but had never been in like
the position of understanding
what that is.
Bet you couldn't help someone
with telling someone. Bet you couldn't help someone with telling someone.
Bet you couldn't.
Oh no, she would, she would, she would.
Oh, you're trying to beat her up.
I just fucked her right up.
I was like, well, calm down.
Now she's fucked off and all of a sudden you're like,
yeah, that cunt.
I thought just the way you put the voice on.
I'm sorry if you're listening.
She's like, no, we've got to help the people and all of that.
But it was, I don't know how to explain it.
I thought you were doing the voice of the person
that I thought Natalie would look like if she did.
Oh, right, yeah.
Darcy did sound like that though, didn't he?
No, it's more of a, it's like it all comes from the correct the completely correct
place but like we had it one okay to give you an example what i'm talking about uh we're walking
through shepherd's bush it's quite late at night we're out we're in a rough bit of shepherd's bush
and there's a load of like lads um who all right let's fuck it there's a load of lads outside the
shop right and Asian lads
and I'm walking through
with a white girl
who's dressed quite skimpy
and stuff right
and where I grew up
I'll tell you
where I went to school
that was just like a thing
where boys
I was mates with the Asian lads
but some of their views
and men's views on women
can be different
depending on your religion
and we're walking through
and I'm seeing the way
these guys are acting
they're calling out at girls
they're doing all this
catcalling and that
and I'm like oh alright they forget what year it is yeah and I'm seeing the way these guys are acting they're calling out at girls they're doing all this catcalling and that and I'm like
oh alright
they forget what year it is
yeah
and I'm just like
oh fuck
okay here we go
so I pull Darcy in a little bit closer
and I just say to her
and then I get like
I explain to her
like I explained to you there
and I got like her
you need to not judge people
on their ethnicity
and their background and stuff
and I was just there
going to her like
I wasn't
I was judging them on their actions and their background and stuff and I was just there going to her like I wasn't I was judging them
on their actions
and I was judging them
on mates I used to
go to school with
that were like that
back when I wouldn't
know a thing like that
was wrong
I've seen them do it
I've seen them do it
and I know roadmen
it's the same guys
that were there
three years ago
yeah yeah
and I'm not there
going like
it's because I can see
the way they're in
roadman outfits
they're doing this
sort of thing
and it's like in my area like you've got like you've got white in bits of london's
you've got white gangs white guys as you get people move into their ethnicity group that's
what happens in london what's roadman roadman's like um it's kind of like it's now kind of a joke
but like it used to be you do road your job is on road in it isn't like yardie is it a play on
yardie's are jamaican jamaica like a yardie would be your part of the jamaican crew you break don't you uh
but like so where i grew up road men it was like you'd be in a gang you do road you sell drugs you
rep your ends oh so it's like it's is it like saying a chav and a road man and uh like is it
like a socio-economic group rather than a sort of road man Roadman is more like... It's kind of like... Can you get a rich roadman?
Yes and no.
You'd sort of go like, I did road.
Like, I was on road. I was doing road.
Can you get a white roadman? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah. It depends on your...
You used to... So, in my era, you used to have SMS,
which were the Somalian Muslim soldiers,
which is where they were like the...
They were like the Asian gang.
Not the Asian gang, the African, the Muslim gang, sorry.
Then you'd have certain gangs that were like black gangs,
but white people could be in the black gang.
And people could be in different gangs.
It wasn't like an American prison style system.
So it was more than a word for plastic gangster?
No.
It was more like, back when I was a kid,
it was like you carried a knife, you sold drugs,
and you stepped to people. you'd go to people like
where are you from
it was back when
the postcode war
was happening
so if you're on road
it's like
what ends are you from
Grove Street
yeah yeah
and then I'd spud you
and be like
yeah you play San Andreas
but that's what I was
going back to Darcy
right
so I was saying to her
like that night I was going like no I wasn't judging someone based what I was going back to Darcy right so I was saying to her like that night
I was going like
no I wasn't judging
someone based on
I was watching
what had happened
and what I'd grown up with
but she's like
on this left
she's like grown up
in the countryside
but she's very left wing
and liberal
so she's like
no no no
you were being racist
and I was like
I fucking wasn't
I was watching them
outside the McDonald's
and I saw what was going on at anyone who walked by I was like yo babes come here come here and I was like I fucking wasn't I was watching them outside of McDonald's and I saw what was going on
at anyone who walked by
I was like
yo babes
come here
come here
and I was like
there's ten of them
and there's two of us
and I'm faster
than you Darcy
I'm over here
I'm gonna get a head start
have you ever had that
did you ever like
find when you moved to London,
you had like preconceived conceptions
and then like you'd have a little thing where you realised,
oh fuck, I was just being a little bit mildly racist there.
No.
No, you're pretty sure.
No, it's really cool here in East London
because like there's no majority.
Like I'm not part of a white majority.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's like there is no majority.
I guess if there was a majority
probably turkish yeah yeah it's like i mean on the on the like uh shops and cafes and stuff that are
most turkish owned it seems yeah but now there's like there's such a real it's like a world
headquarters it's such a mix that there's no tension it kind of it kind of mixes but it it's
like when people like london's a melting pot and it mixes you're like it does on the high street it doesn't like depending on yeah do you know i
mean like the area i live in if you come to fort and heath right like it's like big jamaica center
big all there's bigger there's a mosque there's loads of things going on but everyone still kind
of sticks to their own bit yeah like no one it's not like the jamaicans and the muslims will buy
and they're like hey man we'll come
mosque tomorrow
you come to the
jerk chicken shop
it's like
no no no
you guys got your
thing over there
we got ours here
and like
yeah there's a mosque
over there
and there's a
Buddhist centre
and I've never
seen any conflict
I've never seen
any tension
I've never seen
any like
I've never felt
threatened
because we live
next to a park
at least something's
worried about Natalie
walking through the
park if she takes
a shortcut back at
night, but that
would just be in
general.
That's a men thing.
Wherever we lived.
Well, yeah, it's
just that women are
more vulnerable to
attack than men.
It is a concern, but
that would be the
same in any city,
walking through a
park.
Don't you find it
nuts here?
You see when groups
like the EDL will go mental mental over they'll go like look at this like islamic
pedophile group or something and then you'll see just as many like up dudes from like i don't
know some place up north like white dudes doing the same thing and then they're just quiet on the
thing and you're like you don't really care about stop stop using like your stop throwing your agenda on a legitimate like thing to try and stop a struggle
now surely it should just be anti-pedophile yeah just any pedophile i don't know how we've got
on to race i did that sorry you took it straight to pedophiles as well so all right well you've
seen us on the subject we really just you really just took it away from the fringe there
we're just talking
about fringe politics
and you're like
hey what about
homeless people
what about race relations
people
whoa
can we just get back
to the free fringe
so you're thinking
of doing free fringe
I'm so sorry
about that
I just realised
what I did
well let's bring it back
maybe maybe not this was meant to be about my breakup I just realised what I did. Well, let's bring it back. Maybe not.
This was meant to be about my breakup.
It was about you being in turmoil.
So, I'm writing a fringe show.
That's the top and bottom of it.
I'm writing a new show.
And it's going to be ready for...
When I tour with Daniel, I'll have new material.
I'll be able to put some shows on. When it new material. I'll be able to put some shows on.
When it's ready, I'll be able to put some shows on in London, in Newcastle,
and anywhere where I might have a following.
Give us a tweet if you say, hey, come to my town and put on a show.
And I'll probably put, I'll not call it a tour,
because it's probably just going to be a handful of solo shows here and there.
It's still a tour?
It's still a tour.
I'll do something of a tour, but it might not's it's difficult to say because i've done a tour really it was big
and it was back to back but you know what i mean i might just put on some solo shows at venues i'd
still say it's a tour because like you've got a you're no no i'm going to come home in between
each one yeah but your thing is like you're're so like, you know, you're very modest
in like your success.
You are kind of like a very modest,
like you'll sit around afterwards and have a drink with it.
You are like sort of go out and have a drink with everyone.
But like, I feel like this industry, yeah,
you sometimes have to be not,
you have to make out your further than you,
like we know comedians
who will be like
hey new post tomorrow
new
and they won't just
it's just like
just post it bro
new post tomorrow
big announcement
and it's like
they're doing like
four dates
somewhere
and they're being
their own hype man
and that's the thing
with this industry
you kind of have to do that
I think
you know I find
I used to think
that success
was having a diary full
new on arts
optional taking time off is the that's the new yeah that's the new rich in comedy
is to gan i'm not gonna work this weekend i'm gonna take april off yeah that's the that's the
there that that's where it's at new like but you have to you have to fucking work intensely for a good fucking
while before you can
back yourself out of that
but yeah
so I'm gonna
I'm gonna work on
this sort of show
getting back to this point
I'm gonna work on
this sort of show
I'm gonna
I'm gonna put it on
in a bunch of places
might take it to
Australia next year
probably
take it to a handful
of places
that I'm already
familiar with
I'd like to take it to the fringe but I'm I'm already familiar with I'd like to take
it to the fringe
but I'm not
going to get
bent over
I'm too long
on the tooth
for that game
I'm not going
to have my
pants running
my ankles
and fucked up
the arse
like I'm
going to
like honestly
if I was
going to
like I'm
like I don't
need your
fucking pen
smiths coming
in attacking
like I mean
reviewers have
been kind of
this since
fucking 2013
like I haven't had a fucking bad gig 2011 was my last fucking bad review yeah right just coming in attacking like i mean reviewers have been kind of it since fucking 2013 like i
haven't had a fucking bad gigs 2011 was my last fucking bad review yeah right since 2013 fringe
i'm your third fringe i figured it out like everyone's been kind but still people are gonna
you're putting yourself you're opening yourself up for people to talk about you
you're opening yourself up for you're losing money and i just i i'm not that asked to boot the whole
industry side of it yeah if if i wanted i could just get a small venue in blythe and put it on
every day of august yeah and probably doing that probably they are eight numbers for the full run
and keep 100 of it um talk of scummy white people there won't be much industry attention and there won't be much diversity in the crowd
what do you get out of the fringe
I've got a shift at Morrison's
I'm going to write a new show
and I'm working on it and I've done some new material
and I'm liking the material I'm doing
and it's going to be fun and I'm going to put it on
where I can't put it on I'm just not going to be
I'm not going to be shagged up the arse
do you find have you ever written
towards reviews no find have you ever written towards
reviews no like have you ever injured oh I knew the punch drunk show was gonna get what did that
did that in your head did that make you like go it made us um it didn't make us try and replicate
it the year after so the punch drunk show was about um rescue I mean people can download it
off my website
go watch it
it's on kaihomfries.com
forward slash shop
use a discount code
muggins
plug
so there
the Punch Drunk Show
was about the whole
community of blithe
clubbing together
to raise money
for Cain's
cancer treatment
it's a heart string show
and it's about
my upbringing
with my brother
and how we
came together
to create this event,
the boxing event where you got punched in the face
and punched Adam in the face also.
Good fight.
As fights go, that does sound like a good one.
So that show, it had that extra star in it
so it'd come through.
It was my five-star show where the five star came in
I knew the next year
I wasn't going to try
and pull another
heart string show
out of my arse
because I would have
had to force it
I didn't have a story
as good
so I just made a show
that was funny
and it just got
four star reviews
across the board
I knew I wasn't
going to get it at fifth
and I knew it was
too funny for it
to get anything less
so like
yeah
yeah I get what you mean because I had last year I had for it to get anything less. So like... Yeah.
Yeah, I get what you mean.
Because I had last year,
I had for the first time,
I had like a,
not a sad bit in my show,
but just like a very honest moment in my show.
And it was like,
that was a thing that I would find got a good reaction and stuff.
And I think it's like a really good thing to learn
how to play with that reaction sometimes.
As a stand-up,
like there is something about
not just learning how to be funny on stage,
but being really open, being really honest.
Sloss does it perfectly, playing attention, bringing people back in.
But it's like this year, I don't feel exactly what you were saying.
I might do three 20-minute bits or three 20-minute bits.
And they're all about things because I like my stand-up.
I find I like to write,
with a point to it,
as well as being funny,
but I'm not going to have,
something that's just like,
because man,
I'll tell you what the bit was,
it was about like,
how I used to self harm,
and then fucking,
halfway through the fringe,
because I'm saying it every day,
I'd be on stage,
talking about how I used to cut myself,
and I'm there going like,
I might take that route home,
that goes past the milkshake place,
so I can get a milkshake,
and I'm having this like, moment where I'm opening up, might take that route home that goes past the milkshake place so I can get a milkshake. And what happened is like a moment where I'm opening up in more ways than one.
And I'm there going like, I could go past the sushi place and get a can.
And I'm meant to be like actually like fucking holding this moment to my audience.
So what's the premise that you're thinking of self-harming yourself and then you get distracted by a milkshake?
No, no, no.
That was genuinely happened. I had a bit in my show about how I used to self-harming yourself and then you get distracted by a milkshake. No, no, no. That was genuinely happened.
I had a bit in my show
about how I used to self-harm.
Okay.
It was a load of jokes.
It wasn't like a 45 minutes
deliberate there,
hot,
like the 45 minute thing
is where you apparently,
it's like a thing in the industry
where you have a dip in your show
because that's where it usually dips.
So you double down on it.
Mm.
And then you...
You tell them about your dad's lump
on his testicles
yeah that's all that's how i'm breaking it down
dad i don't know i don't know how to break this news i've
why have you got me to do it just send him the link
dad i really think you should i really think you should have got a doctor to do this so the bit was about like
it was just a load of jokes I used to have about it
right it was just a bit that I had about it
okay but I would be doing that bit
on stage and like I had to learn how
to deal with the audience reaction
and I would be doing that one day and I found out
actually sometimes it required not a joke just a moment of
honesty and I would be doing that
so in my head I'm talking about it my head, I'm talking about it.
So on stage, I'm talking about it.
But in my head, I'm like,
oh yeah, I could get the banana and strawberry one today, actually.
That looked quite nice when I saw that lady order it yesterday.
And then, oh, fuck it.
So I used to self-harm.
Because you say it every day.
You get back to it.
So this year, what's your plan?
Are you just going to write what you find funny?
Yeah, I've got three sort of...
With no real direction.
You're just going to see what comes.
I always think, yeah, you write with a...
I find for myself, I write with a direction.
Like wherever I write, it's come from here.
And so everything will
be interlinked i have to find the bit stand back at one point and go here's the link here's what
i'm talking about and it might be relationships it might be this it might be that but it all comes
from the same place of what i'm wanting to talk about i'm only doing this fringe this year because
i want to do it yeah because i got told like you had a good fringe last year go do it and i was like yeah
and then i started writing and i was like oh no i've got something i want to say this year
i've got something i want to do this show i would hate to just go fuck i've got to go write a show
because i've done that before and you just choose i just tried to do it it didn't really work as
well as it could have done and that's
a learning experience
but I don't I don't
I think like you do
it perfectly and go
like cool I'm just
gonna go write an
hour of stand-up
this year still good
show yeah it's still
great but you've
you've proved you
can do both things
yeah I've done the
narrative show and
I've done the I've
done the stand-up
show and usually I'll
do like a fucking
set piece at the end
that kind of ties it
together so it's like
nice and it's got a ribbon on it I need a gimmick I have do like a fucking set piece at the end that kind of ties it together so it's like nice and it's got a
ribbon on it
ah you're a gimmick
I have ended on a
gimmick I've ended
where I've battle
rapped and done a
Rubik's Cube
I've ended fucking
where I've brought
out like fucking
I've brought someone
on stage and fed
them with Final
Punchline
you can download
that show it's
called In Full
Colour
In Full Colour. In Full Colour
is also what I tried
to make this podcast about.
Well,
well,
shade puns as well
as satire about the...
Just coming on
and just fucking being
mildly racist.
Mildly?
So,
so this year,
back to the fringe.
Sorry, no, let's stick on the theme
of right
that wasn't being racist
you weren't
you weren't
you were being observational
about your area
yes
thank you
and how that can be
perceived as racist
yes
thank you
now I'm going to get back
to this
I'm going to do a show
about
so this is the premise
right
it might not be what I do
this is just the
like fucking
the first draft idea
right
is that
it's going to be about
hobbies and recreation
right
like the things that you do
for joy in life
and
the whole
premise of it
maybe
might be this
is that we're living in a simulation
and if this is a game
that
you want to be having fun with it
yeah
you don't just fucking
you don't play a game
with a fucking straight face
and just follow the fucking story mode.
You had to have a little side quest
and have fun.
So I'm going to date about the hobbies
that fucking light up your life.
So I'm going to date about Muay Thai
and fighting.
So the first bit of material
is the first fight I ever got into
when I was a kid
and when I joined the boxing gym
and stuff like that.
And now I'm going to do some stuff
about knitting as well. I'm going gonna do some stuff inspired by the VR the virtual reality which will tie into life being a
Simulation and and I'm this is my working title knit a box a glory
Laked that's what I think I'm gonna run with that thing. I think that's gonna be the premise of me show. That's nice
And the other option was going
to be just Carl at Linda and just do some
childhood stories and a book with my
I could do a show with Carl at Linda
and a book with my. So it's going to be
one of the other. It's either going to be Carl at Linda
or it's going to be Carl in the box at Glory and it's either going to be
about my childhood, my upbringing
and my relationship
with my mother or it's going to be about my hobbies.
I thought I was going to do
I wanted to call mine
for several years
I wanted to call one
Jet Fuel Can't Melt
Elliot Steel Beams
oh wow
or
or
Enceliot
but like
Enceliot Steel
Enceliot Steel
however
my only thing is
is I just
I don't want to throw
my name into like
the pun game
and all of that
I was just like
I thought you were going to say the insult vibe I don't want to throw my name into like, the pun game and all of that. I was just like. I thought you were going to say the insult vibe.
I don't want to throw your name into that.
No,
that's the other thing.
I wouldn't want.
What's the boys?
The something boys?
Proud boys.
Oh,
fucking hell.
I wouldn't want those kinds of groups.
cause like my show this year is basically what I'm doing is what I'm trying to do is,
uh,
I'm sick of seeing like,
I'm part of like lad culture. I'm part of it. I, I, I'm with to do is I'm sick of seeing like I'm part of like
lad culture
I'm part of it
I'm with it and stuff
but I'm sick of seeing
comedians like me
who represent me
go on and take
the fucking piss
out of minorities
and be horrific about them
so I'm trying to do that
do it on podcasts
yeah
do it on
fucking come on
there's like 8 people
listening to this
4,000 episodes
fuck man
that's me cancelled
that would count
as an arena
that was a gig
this is
this is gonna be
yeah I'm definitely
do you know what
I do worry about this podcast
because I know that
if something's gonna happen
in the future
where I come like
quite well known
they're just gonna
pull up snippets of this
well Danny survived
fucking
yeah but Danny's
never said anything.
I've been on podcasts with Danny that he's deleted
because it's gone.
No.
There was one we had to.
We did in New York where the start of it,
we fucking had to.
Oh, we just restarted again, yeah.
Yeah, we had to.
Yeah, we restarted.
Really, because it was shade.
Yeah.
But like, the...
No, but I think, do you know what?
You see all that council culture and stuff.
Like most of it is like someone will bring out a clip of someone
and it is them being horrific.
Yeah, like Kramer.
Kramer from Seinfeld.
Oh yeah, he should have been cancelled.
Yeah, yeah, that's just like you've shown your true colours
and no one likes you anymore.
Yeah, yeah,
that's not political correctness
gone mad.
You can't be out
and out racist.
This is the thing,
people don't realise
that you've got freedom of speech
but that doesn't mean
freedom of consequence.
Like,
you do have,
you can go say those things
but then the response of it back isn't unjust.
That's people reacting to it.
If you can't fault Justin Lee Collins on your missus,
people are probably going to stop tackling it.
Hell, no.
Come on.
Come on.
We all have bad days.
I mean, I'm going to cancel the PlayStation.
I'm going to put it back on.
It's going to be fucking emotionally manipulated.
As soon as my friends leave and that
it's going to be like
what do you mean by that
I'd love it
I'd love it
if a clip comes out
and it's just you
talking to your
PlayStation
if you ever embarrass me
in front of my friends
I will fucking
you turn on
when I say you turn on
and I just start
downloading an update
instead of letting us play it
but yeah
just to fucking get us back
but I'm going to try
I'm going to try
like set myself
the challenge of like
writing woke comedy
but from a lad angle
this year.
Like set myself
the challenge of like
being on the side
of like,
but like saying like,
lad,
we've got to change this.
You know what?
I fucking,
I've done that,
like last year
I'd done some stuff
about the male pill.
Yeah. Oh, that was very woke. I'd done some stuff About the male pill Yeah
Oh that was very woke
And I boycotted the pill
Very woke
And I got called
By a good friend
Another comedian
And I've been chatting
To some other comedians
And they were like
You're just getting
A bit too woke
Who was it?
I'll tell you off the podcast
But I was like
Fucking
What do you mean
Too woke?
Well because I'm
Showing a little bit
Of fucking respect
You think I'm trying
To like fucking
Virtue signal here And I'm like Like I'm showing a little bit of fucking respect you think I'm trying to like fucking virtue signal here
and I'm like
like I'm just
I ended up having
like a bit of a
fucking debate
with him in the bar
but he thought
he was just like
making a positive
interference
because him and
another couple of
fucking 40 year olds
had a chat about it
and said I was weird
but like man
people are laughing
I'm coming from
the right angle and you know what it's people are laughing I'm coming from the right angle
and you know what
it's fucking good
hearing something war
coming from
someone like me
yeah
you know
it's progressive
it's much better than
hearing it from some
fucking cardigan wearing
Peter Cook
oh man
well that's the other thing
those espionage pussy getters
who are fucking
Tinder feminists
oh man
the amount of them in comedy
I saw someone do a bit
like on stage one time
where he genuinely went like,
he was doing a whole thing about like how men should,
you know, the kind of guys who stare at women on the tube.
And I wanted to go and take the mic and go,
cool, so when you're on the tube,
you've got blinders on, yeah?
So you see a fit girl get on.
You won't acknowledge it.
Because I know women,
there's an account called Fit Guys on the tube
where it's just girls uploading pictures of fit lads on the tube do you know why i was angry because i wasn't
on it that's why like i wasn't i wasn't annoying that existed i wasn't like how can women have this
and men can't people don't stare and start heavy breathing and rubbing your belly button that's
weird but fuck me you can acknowledge that someone's attractive
don't start cat calling
them
just have a
have a little glance
go wow that's made my day
then go on about yourself
fucking
let me get my phone
you don't need to upskirt them
oh well
yeah
right
this is
this is coming to
overrun territory
so let's
let's slag off each other
like that
because
can we plug our shit first
they've been up to some mad
I thought you didn't want to be plugging
I will at the end of the podcast
so this weekend
I will be at the
Gilded Balloon
do we do
come one come all
Edinburgh
Edinburgh
the basement theatre
I'm on with
there's actually a
fucking belter line up
the Gilded Balloon
always put on belter line ups
they are great to everyone
I was just trying to be funny earlier
please please
keep booking me
but I will also on Tuesday this tuesday the 11th of feb i will be doing my
new show at leicester comedy festival at the cookie uh tickets are available on their website
and then on to a 23rd of this month i will be at vault comedy festival london doing my brand new
show it's like seven7.50 ticket.
Ticket links are in my Insta bio and stuff.
Again, on their website.
Then on the 20th of March,
I'll be doing my last year
well-reviewed show,
Merced,
at Brighton Comedia
alongside Marlon Davis,
who will be doing his show.
And then, well,
we'll both be at, oh.
Altitude Festival.
Altitude Festival, yeah.
Come to Altitude Festival, man Festival yeah come to Altitude Festival
man like
it's getting a bit
close now
if I could just
pull a couple of
grand out of the bag
to come on the
best holiday of your life
but man if your
act comes in this
weekend
fucking
get yourself to
Altitude
it's the best
fucking week of my life
every time it's on
it's genuinely
it's so good
it's ruined every
holiday since
because it's
it can't it can't match it.
It's essentially just coming on the sesh with us on the mountains
and snowboarding through the day and all the upright skis, comedy.
It's in Meyerhofen and it's on air from the 31st of March,
first week of April.
It's that duration.
Meyerhofen, Austria.
You fly into Innsbruck or Munich if you want to check your flights,
make sure you get Meyerhofen for your accommodation and thennsbruck or Munich if you want to check your flights make sure you get
Meyerhofen for your accommodation
and then Altitude Festival
for your wristbands
and that's it
that's your perfect holiday package
it's the best comedians
in the world
like it's just good comedy
you get to hang out
with everyone as well
I went for dinner
with people last year
if that's going to entice you
that you get to go
to dinner with me
we're going to do a live podcast
can I be on it
yeah
can I
yeah
what a pathetic thing to ask
while that's still on it? Yeah. Can I? Yeah. What a pathetic thing to ask while that's still on.
It was really like,
can I,
please sir,
can I have some more?
Yeah,
so me and Daniel
introduce it
and then we'll get
a rotation of guests on
and we'll get you
and Colin and Gareth
and all the regulars.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
So,
yeah.
Maybe,
maybe not Colin,
but.
Your dad got thrown out
of Zumba
because his colostomy bag
sprung a leak and it splashed everyone when he was swinging his hips.
Your dad's dog died so now he chases the postman instead but the postman just battered him.
Your dad didn't suck his thumb as a child, he deep-throated his fist.
Your dad did the Instagram which one am I filter and keeps getting nonce regardless of what show it is.
Your dad called the hospital staff transphobic
because they wouldn't give him a hysterectomy.
I don't know what that is.
It's when women get their tubes tied.
Oh.
That wouldn't have worked
if I wasn't so thick.
Or the uterus removed or something.
It's one of those.
You don't know what it's. Your dad forgot to
pick you up
as a kid
and then had
his world
greatest dad
mug revoked
your dad
thinks his
hair grows
because he
waters it
every night
in the shower
your dad
is sick of
this section
of the podcast
as well am I
your dad got a door fitted on his bath
and sat in the tub all Halloween
waiting for kids to knock on it.
Your dad carries a condom in his wallet
in case he gets into an impromptu water balloon fight.
Your dad learned what I love you is in sign language
so that he couldn't accidentally say it to your mom
when he was gesticulating.
Your dad turned up to his Sunday League football game
in a Kobe jersey.
Respect.
The boy's having a little kick about it.
Minutes silence.
You know, one of the referees on the old Sunday League football team,
one of the referees made him have Sunday League football team one of the referees
made we'll have a fucking
minutes sailing
for his dog
well I'll fuck your stupid
honestly just fucking
22
22 Jordy's
stuck on the centre circle
fucking keeping a laughing
no
that didn't happen
swear to god
for his dog
for his dog did For his dog.
Did you know the referee?
Was it around?
It was always the same batch of referees
that would do your thing.
It was this lad we called Panther.
I don't know why we called him Panther,
but he was this fucking weak-jawed motherfucker
that just seemed like he was a little bit of a screw loose.
He just took a lot of shit out of me.
People would give him shit all the time
and he would just tech it. No one would get a booking for diss People would give him shit all the time and he would just tech it.
No one would get a booking for Descent.
They would just give him shit and he would just tech it all the time.
And a grown man...
I'm sorry, I'm crying.
Sorry, he's going to overwrite.
Terrible decisions.
A grown man would make other grown men stand in a circle.
Swear to fucking God, this isn't the old dad joke.
This is a legit part of my life.
That happened fucking...
Me and Matty and Brosnan, that just stood around thenan. Roedd hynny'n gwneud i ni ddweud,
dyma'r rhai sy'n gwneud hynny.
Roedd yna ddwy glas ar y ddwy glas.
Ydych chi'n gwneud hynny?
Doedd hi ddim hyd yn oed yn ddwy.
Mae hi wedi bod yn slyni. it's just been slated
I'm so sorry
everyone
I just had one of
them
just one of their
neck brace
things on
lamb shade
cord
just to start
making stitches
oh my
well
I need a minute
well
what for this dog
is someone score a goal
and dedicate it
to the third point
up to heaven
oh sorry
sorry
your dad
tell me that
in the climax
your dad sleeps
with the duvet buttons
at the top
so he can chew on them
your dad thinks he's the only person who's referred to Harry and Meghan leaving the royal family as Megxit and chuckles to himself every time he says it.
Your dad tried to flick an elastic band at the school teacher but he forgot to let go and pulled himself at Mr Walters instead.
There's just nothing I have as good as what you've just said about the dog.
it's just nothing I have is as good as what
you've just said
about the dog
your dad said
he knows how to
place stairways to heaven
and to be fair
he does
but next time
he needs to do it
on a guitar
and not a kazoo
your dad
pretended to
bite your mum
on the boob
with a haribo jelly snake
just so he could
suck out the venom
sorry
have you got a snake one
is that a jelly snake yeah your dad ordered a snake bite at the bar sorry have you got a snake one is that a jelly snake
yeah
your dad ordered
a snake bite
at the bar
and got bitten
by a cobra
wow
I mean
not that good
sorry mate
it should be
a real not
about each other
do you know
what Bruce
and his stag do
I'll tell you
this way
he fucking
his stag do
right
the fucking
animal guy
comes
and made him do a minute silence for all the where he fucking he's a stag do right the fucking animal guy comes I made him do a minute
silence for all the animals
animation team
aye
he's fucking
he's got like a parrot
and all that
that does some stuff
and he's done a couple
of tricks already
and then it's the
piece de resistance
at the end of the show
where he gets like
the stag to come up
and he puts the snake
on the stag
and he puts it
puts it around
Brucey's neck
and all that
like
don't worry
he'll not bite you
fucking tame snake
the fucking snake
just cocked back
and just
launched itself
latched itself
out of his bicep
and Brucey's just
there going
I thought you said
it didn't bite
calm as you like
it's fucking latched on
he's like
you bloody told me
you didn't bite this thing
anyway
was pampered there
and made everyone have a
he's dead
that was the last
we saw of Brucey
he held a minute
silence for him
at your next
Sunday league game
fucking Panther
Raids
I'm sorry
I'm sorry about the
end I've just died
at that minute
silence
it was fun
Raids guys
I'll see you next time
we'll have Danny
back on
it'll be a proper podcast