Sloss and Humphries On The Road - Thick as Pig Mince
Episode Date: January 3, 2024Balls deep in the gooch of the year where your calendars enter anti-gravity, Muggins and Cream bring you your last podcast of 2023 to close out the year with some Christmas catch up chat. Kai quadrupl...es down on a friend's casual racism to highlight the problem but makes it way worse. Daniel sets an early family tradition that Santa is an alcoholic. #12 Improve the contents of your fridge with delicious cider from our partner Thistly Cross using your 10% off discount code. Enjoy! www.thistlycrosscider.co.uk Discount Code: thistlysloss10
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Sloss and Humphries on the road!
Muggins and cream, cream and muggins, straight thuggin', livin' the dream
That's our intro
Fuckin' muggles!
Tickling the clit inside your head that makes you laugh
Woohoo!
They said it can't be done!
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That's hack
Aww, muggles!
Accidental rim job in the park
Kiss kiss kiss
Or might just be cynical
Just muggled it up on fuckin' Mugglepedia
Where have you been since 9-11?
So this isn't your favourite time of year?
No.
Because you were just saying before that you think this time of year needs fixed,
and I think it's the least broken time of year of all time.
Needs fixed.
I'm not suggesting there be...
I'm not suggesting we take this time away.
I'm just suggesting we fucking fix it.
Get some sleep in, yeah?
Yeah.
Between Christmas and New Year
Class
No obligation having
Anybody texting you
Not anything important anyway
There's no important emails now
You have a fucking different relationship
With Marlena than I do
Is she giving you important emails?
Oh man she fucking emails me
Between Christmas and New Year
I'm like I know
Nobody's talking to you
Nothing is open in the world
Nothing is open You are world nothing is open you
are asking me these questions purely because you want to you know yesterday i got out of bed and
rolled up my yoga mat and spent half an hour at adrian and then i got me i'm on the third children
of time book children of memory yeah fucking took a chunk out of that hadn't even looked
at my phone yet
class
absolutely class
no obligation
for days
yeah but that's
but man I had that
for you know
the fucking four days
leading up to
Christmas
except for like
the Christmas
no no you're planning
you've got stuff today
you've got like
you had to drop off
your Christmas Eve boxes
you've still got presents
to wrap like you've got like stuff happening you're drop off your Christmas Eve boxes. You've still got presents to wrap.
Like you've got like stuff happening.
Oh, you're on the comfier belt of life.
Stuff's come towards you
that needs dealing with before the time comes.
And then Christmas is behind you.
Everyone's gone home.
You've finished hosting.
You've tied your hoose back up
and you just get that week in your hoose
where you're like,
I did put it in Muggle Corner yesterday
when I was talking to the patrons
about their dad posters.
You know, again, I don't even know
what day it is, probably muggle
evening today, but how class that
days don't have things attached to them
your Monday doesn't have going to work
attached to it
your Saturday doesn't have football training
attached to it, like the days have got
fuck all attached to them
so between Christmas and New Year
you're not allowed to make plans with anyone, right,
by using the date or the day.
You have to physically describe...
Day after tomorrow.
That's it.
That's the only way.
Between Christmas and New Year,
you're not allowed to say,
hey, do you want to hang out on the 30th?
What fucking day is the 30th?
What are you talking about?
Hey, shall we meet up on Tuesday?
What are you talking about, man?
It's between Christmas
and New Year
are we meeting tomorrow
today or the day after tomorrow
those are the only three options
you did a build
when I
I was saying like
I'm free
all my family's gone home
I'm free for a podcast
whenever you guys are
and you went
I'm free Eva
tomorrow before two
or Friday
and I was like
that's the same day
that's the exact same day
it's just like
and I've been moaning and crying about this because I'm like nothing's open she's like things are open same day it's just like and I've been moaning
to Karen about this
because I'm like
nothing's open
she's like
things are open
you're just not going out
and I'm like
I know but it's just the
I want a whinge
no it's the wrong cruise out
like it's still
if like if I
if I go into a fucking play area
today or tomorrow
with my son
it's not the fucking parents
there that are all the time
it's the
it's the dad
that's still got a week left
off of work the dog park's super busy yeah the time. It's the dad that's still got a week left off of work.
The dog park's super busy.
Yeah, but with cunts, man.
Every day's a weekend.
Man, every other week in January,
when I go to any soft play area,
I am dealing with...
Oh, you want the Monday everyone's at work soft play time.
You don't want the Saturday everyone's off work.
I want full-time.
I want to hang out with full-time mums and full-time dads.
I want to hang out with the stay-at-home mums and dads. I want to hang out with the stay-at-home mums
and stay-at-home dads
because the stay-at-home mum
and the stay-at-home dads
who do this shift with their kid every day,
they know their kid's behaviour, right?
And they're not getting me
into weird, awkward interactions
of me being like,
hey man, sorry, my kid's been shit to your kid.
He doesn't have,
he doesn't understand sharing yet.
And you've got a dad who's got custody.
Who's like, I died for my kids
yeah man
who only gets to see
them over Christmas
he's done his Batman
outfit from the battle
I see my son
two days a week
so here are these
really strict rules
that I have in place
for my boy
I would take a bullet
for that child
someone whip out a gun
now so I can prove it
and then just me
and the mums
just violently protecting
that child from nothing
yeah and we're just like man kind of let them push
each other a little bit like when it gets
physical physical that's fine but like we have
to kind of let them establish their own
boundaries and like understand with each other
if they don't and again we're still being
parents we're here we're watching but it's not
this
it's you know the Christmas drinkers
of parenthood
don't get me wrong that is me
carol listening to me describe anyone as that would make her die laughing yeah but because
you're away yeah quite some time yeah yeah and then you then you violently parent your child
for a bit there claim some ground back yeah well she yeah yeah yeah no but like i really try to
make sure and i'm sure the next time she's on the podcast,
she'll fucking correct me.
But I will ask her, well, Eric, if I fucking will answer.
I think when I'm home, I, you know,
I try to make up amends on the other side of things.
Like, you know, the other day,
she wasn't fucking feeling great.
I think she was just, like, hungover.
It was sort of, like, between Christmas and New Year, blah.
And there was just one day where, at the end of the day, between Christmas and New Year, blah. And there was just one day
where at the end of the day she apologised.
She was like, I really feel like
you just led the charge with killing.
I'm sorry, I didn't do much.
And I'm like, please don't ever apologise.
And on the one day that happened.
Man, let's not say that as a president.
That one day of the year that happened,
you better be sorry.
Aye, aye.
You better step up next time, bitch.
Well, to be fair, because whenever I'm away,
like, I do apologise.
I'm like, I'm sorry I'm away having fun.
Like, I know it's the job and I'm not away to have fun,
but it's just very unfair that my job is,
look, the 22 hours a day that are travelling
and being away fucking suck,
but there are the two hours where the job's really fun,
I drink afterwards,
and it is nice to have these lions
And not have to worry about shit
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Yeah.
Also, my son is sorry to continue going on about my son,
but we will.
I like hearing about your son.
He, we don't know why, he says goodbye like an African-American woman.
Whenever you leave, he just goes, bye!
Fucking makes me kind of, because we should be correcting him to like, it's bye.
But he's just like, bye!
We're like, fuck yeah, man. you man oh man keep that software i've
started i've started trying to upload some software on the muni sealer just like two and a
half and just snack driven i want i want a snack escalates very quickly to i need a snack snack
snack snack all right um i would not relinquish the snacks until she said hors d'oeuvres great
i need an hors d'oeuvres. Great.
I need an hors d'oeuvres.
Little blithe child just demanding hors d'oeuvres.
Wonderful.
Keep it in, keep it in.
But that's also, that's another very interesting part of like parenthood. I notice that a lot with like,
it's when you have to sort of relinquish your boundaries or accept
that other people are what i'm trying to explain is like i don't uh um like i i won't try and guilt
caitlin like if he hits me or whatever i don't do that thing i'm like oh daddy's heart oh
flinch at him yeah i don't try and teach him with guilt be like oh you did this thing and that and
i feel bad so therefore you should feel bad i'm like hey man we we don't have if we want to express
it we do it this way we do it that way um or i'll not teach him physical violence like if we're
wrestling it's a wrestling thing but it'll never be like a slap or a hit or anything
anything like that and then sometimes cullen comes around and Cullen just beats the shit out of my son right
in a way that my son
loves and finds funny
but man he is
fucking ragdolling
this kid around
and things I wouldn't
like
but everybody has a
different relationship
with your child
and that's his relationship
with Cullen
yeah
so I just
and one day he'll win
and that day he'll be
sooner than you think
yeah yeah yeah
aye
so there's the thing
of like I'm like
and as long as
Caelan understands
like if Cullen
allows him to do
these things to Cullen
then that's fine
you know
he can't
he can't bring it out
over here
he's the best sleeper
in the world
my boy
he sleeps so good
he sleeps 12 hours a night
kind of puts him to bed
at 7
half 7
and he wakes up
at half 7 in the morning
comes through
doesn't say hi
like an African American everyone complaining about how hard parent is and you're like it's mostly just
them sleeping oh we got lucky we got good we i'm lucky i got a good kid and i've got a great
fucking partner the whole thing he doesn't come into the room like we're working on that
if he disagrees with you does does he click a Zed yet?
I fucking hope so.
I'm like, I don't know who is raising my son in private,
but can they please keep doing it?
If that's him, I'm all for it.
I don't know who's turning my son into Wanda Sykes,
but I'm for it.
Absolutely.
It's not the comedian I thought my son would turn into
but I'm not against
it a single bit
so he knows
he knew Santa
he knows Santa's
the thing
right
so he didn't
obviously understand
what Christmas was
he knew it was
a different time
and the fact that
Santa was everywhere
was exciting
the spirit of Christmas
deception
yeah
yeah
yeah
like
Christmas is so magical
you do know magic is just deception yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, or... Christmas is so magical.
You do know magic is just deception.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sleight of hand.
We committed sleight of hand
on our child.
I'd gaslit an entire world
of children about it.
Yeah.
We put out the...
We decided to put out
the cookies,
the carrot,
and the milk for Santa.
Because even though
he wouldn't understand,
we were like, fuck it, it's for us as well.
We're starting this tradition that we're going to be doing
for the next fucking 15 years, hopefully.
This is exciting stuff.
Oh yeah, because you'd have more children.
Not your present absolute Timmy.
No, we hope to have other children.
And that will increase how long we are eating up the life
for.
One thing I got fucking, I'll call out my wife since she's not here to defend herself.
Yep.
Classic.
Santa gets a dram, right?
With his milk?
Yeah.
This is Bailey's, right?
But he gets it, he's allowed it, he gets it, he gets it, he gets a dram, he gets a gin,
he gets a red one, he gets a drum he gets a gin he gets a red one
he gets a beer
whatever Santa likes
in your particular household
put a little beetroot
for Santa
he wants to have a good time
it's Christmas
look
I'm not
I'm not asking for a spliff
right
I'm not saying
leave a joint out for Santa
I understand
or for Rudolph
no he gets a carrot
that's
that's
that's
this is cone shaped that gets a carrot That's That's That's That's cone shaped
That's a carrot
Yeah there's just the green in the end
And then all the way down
Just get orange papers
Yeah
Get orange papers
And leave a big fat carrot
So I keep going to Cara
I'm like
Santa get a dram
She's like
If you want a dram
Just have a fucking dram And I'm like, does Santa get a dram? She's like, if you want a dram, just have a fucking dram.
And I'm like, no, we need to, we're establishing, does Santa drink?
Like, this is a very important, the lore that we're about to create in our house and for our family, does Santa drink?
She was like, Santa doesn't drink.
And I'm like, I'm pretty sure Santa fucking drinks.
How's his cheeks that rosy red?
He's got to be drinking.
That's not the cool dad.
Nah, nah.
It's 10 degrees out
global warming
so
he's gotta have a drink
like
Santa's a boozer
apparently didn't have
any in this house
but he fucking
for some reason
where do you get
that belly from pasties
that's beer that
he got a fucking
gin and tonic
at the wars
did he
aye
la dee da
fucking right
how come Santa's
slamming it
at our fucking house
do you not think
He's going to be
I kept saying this
I think Laura
Might be Santa
At the wars
I think
Santa's going to be
Giving Caelan
Some pretty shitty
Presents
In future years
At fucking
The wars
Or handing out
Fucking whiskeys
And gin and tonics
And our Santa's
Getting nothing
Why would he stop here
I ask you
Well because
The fucking Santa
On the lawn
Grew up
Anyway
We put the Whiskeyless treats the fucking Santa on the lawn, grow up. Anyway,
we put the whiskulous treats for fucking Santa,
the cookies down there.
Were the cookies cookies?
Cookies were cookies,
and real cookies.
Caelan could not fathom or understand that this,
he's never seen a biscuit that wasn't for him.
Mother fucker wants a bit of Santa's biscuits.
He's never seen a biscuit
Even biscuits that were not intended for him
He doesn't snatch
He's like
Mmm, mmm, mmm
Biscuit for me
If you're eating a biscuit
He doesn't snatch
He's no rude
He gets up beside you
And just very audibly
Enjoys the look of your biscuit
He's like
Mmm
Don't mind if I do.
What you got
there, cracker?
Well, he's kind of like a cracker.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he'll say,
and eventually, most people we
know will cave him, give him the biscuit. But again, if you don't want to
give him the biscuit, you don't give him the biscuit.
He's got to learn that. Everything's not for him.
When I go to get a biscuit and slap his hand and say he's getting fat.
Do you do that with his mum
only because it's a very funny bit
to consistently do
not funny when they're pregnant
funnier
funnier
and then
so we put the biscuit
Caelan has a nibble of the cookie
we keep trying to explain
that it's for Santa
eventually
eventually
has he met Santa yet
yeah yeah yeah
so he's got So he's got a
visual on Santa? Mm-hmm. He's not just
this mythical being that he doesn't know what he looks like? No, no
he points to Santa, goes to that Santa
knows Santa, says ho, ho, ho
like as Kara would say, he's smart for his age
Fucking thick as pig
mints
Our son for the first time in three months
I like thick as pig mints by the way I know that's a combo of thick as mints and son for the first time in three months I like thick as pig mints by the
way
yeah
I know that's a
combo of thick as
mints and thick as
pig shit
but thick as
pig's mints
I like that
okay
I like that a lot
I remember my
lad was drunk in
my dad's car
and I was
giving my dad
and his mate a
lift and he was
like I can't
see a bat
which is a plane is a bat, I can't see a bat.
Which is, I'm playing as a bat and I can't see a thing,
but it stuck with us.
I can't see a bat.
Thick as pig mince.
Wilde a lobster.
Our son woke up at three in the morning
and wouldn't get back to sleep
to the point where we kind of had to,
we never have to bring him to our room,
but sure enough,
he wouldn't go back to sleep. He wasn't kicking off. Just, what's not going back to never have to bring him through to our room but she sure enough he wouldn't go back to sleep
he wasn't kicking off
just what's not going back to sleep
we bring him back into the room
and for an hour
in bed
at half three in the morning
have to answer
every question he's got
about whether the biscuit
is still downstairs
and whether it's for him
Santa's about the biscuit
he's like
biscuit?
we're like
it might still be there
man we can't check
I haven't been able to sleep
not because of Christmas
and it's now there's a biscuit on the bench it's like inside is nobody having that biscuit Biscuit? We're like, it might still be there. Man, we can't check. I haven't been able to sleep not because of Christmas.
And now there's a biscuit on the bench.
It's like inside.
Is nobody having that biscuit?
Tossing and turning at night.
Listening for footsteps.
The only kid
that's our other moon
that Santa hasn't been
because the biscuit's still there.
Name present.
Name present.
Santa bypassed the house
but fucking champion
got me biscuit.
Aye.
God respect him, it man was he good
when it was just crumbs
oh
no
when he came down
he saw the presents
there was like
oh
and then
that was exciting for a bit
and we kept pointing
at the biscuit
and the
milk and the crumbs
which by the way
another
another
shit part of parenting
not a shit part
but another weird part
of parenting it's really but another weird part of parenting
it's really surreal and really really really weird to be santa for like don't go wrong when
they were young and like and i because i'm 10 and 12 years older than my brothers there was
times when my brothers would go to bed for christmas they'd finish writing their letters
to santa and my because i was 16 17 18 my parents would be like, all right, you can help us bring presents downstairs.
We know you're not sleeping.
You can stay up.
I would outstay my parents
because I wasn't waiting up for Santa.
I would wait for my parents to go to bed on Christmas Eve.
I would go to the back,
smoke some fucking weed to myself,
go and watch a movie, fall asleep at two.
Yeah, but just try to keep the magic alive for these two.
So they'd hear you bumping about
and think Santa's doing stairs.
It's just that brother getting stoned.
Santa's putting deodorant on.
He's trying out the links Africa before he dishes it out.
Not only is Santa eating his cookie,
he's eating all of the cookies
in the pantry.
He's bussed up with the miniature heroes.
Was Santa making crisp sandwiches
last night?
Crisp sandwiches with pate.
Who the fuck does Santa...
Santa left the lid off the peanut butter. last night crisp sandwiches with pate who the fuck just sat there
Santa left the lid
off the peanut butter
I think Santa's
a burglar man
he left for more stuff
than he put out
yeah
he didn't
he didn't take away
the Christmas card
that I left for him
but he clearly used
some of it as roach
I think you should
probably be on a verbal
warning Santa
Get in touch with HR
I'm telling you in the future
There will be a point where
Not for the first couple of years
But when my kids are like
You know 11, 13
And they're on the cusp of not believing
That time where it's like hey
You're going to climb into their bed dressed as Santa
Let's find out how well you can keep a secret don't tell mommy
oh no that's when santa that's when santa might be like oh maybe santa would like an edible maybe
santa would like i think we should stop with whiskey for santa just try to rape us sorry sorry mate it's
very weird
to be
actual Santa
and to do all the things
that make
because it is exciting
and it is getting excited
about the fact
that you have to lie
to your kids
and Cara
much more excited
about it
than I am
like
there's real
joy in her eyes
when she imagines
how much
she's going to be able
to bullshit her kids
for years to come.
Because her dad bullshitted her so good
that like one year,
Kara's school told her Santa wasn't real.
So Kara went home, wrote a letter to Santa
and said, if you are real,
can you please circle yes or no
and send this back to me as soon as possible?
So obviously...
Everyone else in sixth form is like
freaking
My father-in-law
Dave is like this stupid
little bitch. I can't believe she's giving me
more to write. So Dave circles yes
Cara proudly goes back into school
the next day with a letter circled by Santa
confirming his existence
He has proof
Back in the days before your phone recorded things, Dave would put like he would back in the days
before your phone
recorded things
Dave would buy
dictaphones
and record
ho ho ho
Merry Christmas
and shove that
dictaphone
up the chimney
just to fuck
that aha
and would love
nothing more
than his kids
just being like
oh my god
it's fucking
but he does
does that
not for the excitement
of they believe
in Santa
he's like
these are gullible
little fucking kids
you know what
you would think
that would make
a grow up
less gullible because she's already You know what you would think that would make her grow up less gullible
because she's already like
found out the hard way
that like
everyone lies
but she's still
just far far out.
Yeah,
she is.
She's not.
She's maintained
the gullible nature.
Yeah.
Because it was fun.
It was fun being gullible.
I like living in the world
that got built for us
more than I like
living in the real one.
There's some parts of's some parts of our intellect
where I'm smarter than Karen in some aspects of life.
And there are other aspects of real life
where she's definitely smarter than I am.
But when it comes to gullibility, she is.
Natalie says the story of Christmas
and the magic of Christmas
is nothing more
than propaganda
and she actively hates it
like she doesn't have a child
so it doesn't matter
but she's just like
why do people even do this
just tell them it's off you
like
oh no
I mean that is
have you not watched
Klaus
probably with you
oh no
I wouldn't
because like
I stayed here
when we were house hunting and I stayed here when we were house hunting
and I stayed here while we were looking at houses.
And it was in the build-up to Christmas
and he's watched a different Christmas film every single day.
So I've seen a handful.
Aye.
Klaus is...
My favourite was the one where the ghost of Christmas Future
had passed was a stoner.
Oh, the night before.
They got in the car with the dealer And the dealer was the guy
Yeah he just sold them
Different strains of marijuana
From the past, present and future
That's a good one
Aye
That's the night before
Aye
Seth Rogen
Aye
And fucking
The new Captain America
What's his name
The new Captain America
The black one
The one that was
Oh James Mackie
Yes
Yeah yeah yeah
Who
That's my favourite Black Mirror episode Where he fucking He goes gay The one that was... Oh, James Mackie. Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's my favourite Black Mirror episode where he goes gay with his mate in the VR.
Oh, yeah.
Every now and again.
I'm just going to Natalie.
I've finished my denouement.
I'm just going to play VR with Carl.
Just back in the room.
I'm just going to play VR with Carl.
Just shagging Carl on the VR every night.
Such a funny episode.
Is James Mackie got old school views on women?
Was he not lit up on a talk show where he was like,
a woman should be making a sandwich?
Yeah, and then he justified it.
He was very Sean Connery.
Yeah, yeah.
Have you seen that Sean Connery clip?
Slapping women. Slapping women's vein. Yeah. Have you seen that Sean Connery clip? Where he talks about slapping women's fine.
Yeah.
If he was a soft party hand.
I can't remember exactly how it went, but he was like.
I'm not a backhand.
I'm not a monster. And then she was just saying, what happens if you hit the backhand?
He was like, oh, well, that means they like it.
That gets into a whole different realm.
I don't know if you know
Women Sean
I think his words were
Never with a closed fist
Never with a closed fist
Oh
Nice man
There we go
Nice chivalry
It's like
Open your palm
When you elbow them
And it reveals the bone
If you close your fist
Right
It's fleshy
If you open your palm
Never with a closed fist when your elbow lasts.
Exactly.
I think James Mackey done a bit of it.
But it wasn't Sean Connery levels which should knock the mood,
but it was they should be making me dinner for it as well.
I'm grafting.
Yeah, yeah, it was that.
I remember Ricketts having a go at it.
I think Ricketts had a go I think Ricketts
had a go at my dad
and put something like that
yeah
because my mum
doesn't work
but she keeps the house
and all that right
and my dad was
talking about
oh when I finish work
I'm going to cook this
my dad's a better cook
than my mum
so I'm going to cook this
and Ricketts just like
is Linda not in like
he was just aghast.
He's like,
my dad was getting home from work
to make food.
He's like,
I'm a better cook.
I'll make a better meal if I did.
So,
records is a good cook.
Yeah,
yeah,
yeah.
That's so funny.
Old school values.
I'm trying to think if,
like,
because if Natalie was at work all day
And then she was coming back
And I'd been off all day
I'd still
I'd still just have stuff
Chopped up for her
To make it
Or you'd do the prep
I'm sous chef
In my house
Right okay
I'll chop shit up
So that she can
Do the business
Anything where it comes
To the clocks on
And the timing starts
Like it's
She's going to have a better meal
Even if she's done a 12 hour shift
She's going to eat better if she does it
Yeah yeah yeah okay
I think Anna does more of the
Cooking
We're both decent cooks
But she's a better cook than I am
And I'm definitely more like
I'll try more things and do more things
So if she's cooking she knows everything's in there.
I mean, it would be good to have a house bitch,
but I'm not in a position to ask for a house bitch.
Nah.
Nah, no, no, God, no.
No, no, I wouldn't dare.
Like, and I know there is,
I know there would be lesser men out there
who would, from older generations,
who I think would be,
oh, but you know, you go out there
and you work, you know, two, three weeks who I think would be like, oh, but you go out there and you work two, three weeks
every month or whatever it is,
and you make money in their eyes.
You pay for the house, you do this.
I love your trying to understand what shifts are.
Two, three weeks a month, right?
It's mostly like every weekday for a month.
Oh, right, got you, got you.
I work two weeks.
I thought you were trying to understand
what the day-to-day work I did.
Older people would be like to me, you work two to three weeks every month you're away you're traveling stressful surely when you come home you want everything you're
gonna be waiting on hand and foot no no no no no i'm very aware that you actually nest as well
when you come back when you come back like uh actively start tidying your house and being
yeah well because it's it's very unreasonable
to expect
expect like
somebody looking after a kid
to keep a house
fucking spot
kids are just
you put them there
you clean them that bit
you move them there
they go over there
you know
Natalie will sometimes do that
as well
go like
I'll have to tidy the house
before you come home
and I'll be like
I'll just do it when I get back
yeah
I honestly didn't mind
like she's been running a business alright so also can I'll be like I'll just date when I get back yeah I honestly didn't mind I think she's been running a business
also
we
can't as much better
like she'll tidy
throughout the day
I'm happy to let the kid
just make a mess
and the second he's in bed
I'm like
alright we start again
that's when the
entry sketch takes place
but she's happier
to keep on top of it
which again
which again
is probably the right thing
I would say
I'll keep on top of it
since she'll deep clean it every once in a while yeah yeah but I think that's a perfect dynamic uh huh is probably the right thing I would say I'll keep on top of the hoose and shield deep cleaning
every once in a while
yeah yeah
but I think
that's a perfect dynamic
because what that is
is like
Kara is keeping it tidy
in general
giving me like
so then when I'm tidying up
at night
there's actually less
for me to do
which allows me
to then deep clean
further
I think I might
step next year
into the realm
of having a cleaner
what's the best?
we did it in London
when we were both like
working
and then
we just didn't do it
in there
when we're back home
but I'm like
even if it's just the bathrooms
because like
I had guests over
and I like
deep clean the bathrooms
and every time I deep clean them
I'm like
I'm sure I've just done this
and you're like
it was June
would you get an English speaking one
or a good one?
I'm in Scotland, so I don't know what my choices are.
Probably had to shop local.
I don't know how many.
I've got a local one.
She's good.
Aye.
But, you know.
The best cleaners come from places that are scared of Russia.
100%.
Yeah, and the best places is where they send their money home.
It means more.
Yeah yeah yeah
And it's okay because they're white
They don't pay taxes
And you can't tell anybody that they did it
You can call them staff
You're allowed to
Where we are just morally with the world
You're allowed to click at a Romanian
I was actually
That's fine
Because they're white
And they're racist so it's alright Because they're white They're white
And they're racist
So it's okay
So they don't get
You know
Not all Romanians are racist
But 85% of them are racist
So you're allowed to
You can click at Romanians
Yeah yeah yeah
It's absolutely fine
Nothing wrong with it
That's the language actually
Yeah yeah yeah
You have to click with your tongue
That's a fiver
That's a fiver. That's a fiver.
That's a...
Right, here we go.
Here we're going.
Still going with that.
We should probably give that to charity at this point.
Yeah?
Yeah, I reckon this month we'll find our charity and reset it.
Because I was tired
Of supper
About it last night
One of my friends
Came and stayed last night
And they were like
Just get them in
Just dig the
Dig the bathrooms
If anything
And you're like
Well you're on
Just sweep and mop through
If you're going to do that
You may as well
Dig the kitchen and all
And if you're going to do that
You dig laundry
You just end up
With just them
Doing everything Our old cleaner Used to do everything I don't want to lose sight Of who I am That's the only problem kitchen and all and if you kind of do that you do laundry you just end up with just doing everything
our old cleaner
used to do everything
I don't want to lose
sight of who I am
that's the only problem
but I do want a tidy house
it feels rude
having a cleaner
when you've got a kid
because it's like
it's very much like
being back at school
where you're like
oh god we've got to
tidy up for the cleaner
being here
because I don't want
the cleaner to clean up
the stuff that I can clean up
put your chairs on the tables
put all your chairs on the tables
before you clean up
why would I pay a cleaner
to come and tidy my kids toys
when they're meant to be there
cleaning the fucking house
you've got to tidy up
your kids toys
and give them
the area that you want
to clean
cleanable
so they're not just
picking up after you
the whole time
yeah
that's like
when I used to just give me receipts
to my accountant and i'm like actually getting an accountant to do some basic data entry yeah
do you reckon you could get away with like i don't know i don't know if they do it in the uk but
it's a thing in la you can get like the scuddy cleaners what does that mean exactly what you
think scuddy uh-huh like cleaners like that just live on the street no no it's in the scud
oh naked cleaners all right i thought like i street No no In the scud Oh naked cleaners
Right I thought like
I thought it was another word
For like scummy
I thought it would be
Derogatory
Or scuds
Scud
In the scud
I think scud
I think I have heard scud as naked
Aye in the scud
Okay
So scud means naked
Naked cleaners
Yeah or like in
Like
In lingerie
That just feels
Really unsafe and weird.
But if it's for you,
well, you know it's safe.
If you know you're not,
you know the worst you're doing is layering.
I don't think I want to layer at my cleaner.
Remember when I did get cleaners in London
and I thought you'd send strippers?
Remember? Because like it was just, I thought you'd send strippers yeah remember because like
it was just
it all
come to head
it was like
Natalie was like
oh Justina
the cleaner starts today
this was before
your stag days
so it was just
like and I didn't know
when my stag day
was going to be
you didn't tell us
but I knew my wedding
was in a couple of months
and in one month
was the fringe
so like
it's happening in
july like this tag's happening in july and it was like late june and natalie's like the clean
ass started there and this was like i don't even think that we had a clean ass discussion yeah
we didn't even have a chat that we're gonna get clean as it was literally just uh the cleaners
coming today because it was nat and Kat's flat that I occasionally
lived in
because it was
two of them
mostly
knocked on the
door
opened it
and these two
lush women
of different
generations
mother
daughter
combo
hot Italians
I was like come on in
I'll go get myself ready
they're like
oh I must just be
going out
to maybe the gym
a lot of people
when we clean their houses
they go out
they get coffee
they do some errors
you just come back
in a fucking
red bath
and a cigar
I'm just here to watch the show, ladies.
Shoulders back, girls.
Never change.
And they come in in that French maid's outfit, man.
And she's just like, where's the cleaning materials?
I was like, in the sink.
I'll role play.
I'll do a little bit of role play.
Where do you want me to sit?
Shut up
They're in the bottom
They're in the bottom drawer
Why are you bending down like that?
Why are you bending down
Like you're picking up a flat back?
Straight back
Odd
They're there
She's like
Ah yeah
What are you going to need?
How much is it an hour do you
do you accept ones
took
took in the middle
of that
and then she's like
she went in my car
and had a look
at the cleaning materials
got a bit of paper
and a pen
fucking wrote down
a list of cleaning materials
to buy
and it was at the point
where I was in the shop
like asking for bleach
and I was like the point where I was in the shop asking for bleach.
I was like, probably not strippers.
Probably not strippers.
You know what, now that I think about it,
can I put the condoms and the cream back?
We're going to use bleach.
Kinky these strip ass.
I've got this bleach in me cock.
So I,
it was so funny,
if you're like,
ringing this guy,
have the comb here,
have the strip ass comb here.
Aye,
I've got a shopper full of,
because that shopper list,
is using me telly.
Because I remember seeing the nude,
or the,
like the lingerie,
the sexy maids.
And I remember seeing,
Is that an actual thing then
yeah yeah yeah yeah but i but i surely surely it is just uh
surely it's just a sex worker that cleans for the first 15 minutes
shoot which which for me by the way and here's the biggest turn on that no no that's my opinion
what's as far as i'm aware that's whatppers are. Strippers are sex workers who are dancing
until you pay them enough money to do sex work for you.
I know there are some strippers that are like,
I don't do it at all.
But, like...
I don't think so, you know.
Nah.
I don't do...
Nah.
I don't think all strippers are sex workers.
No, that's taken out of my...
I think that's a little bit ignorant,
but I think
some probably are.
Yeah.
Like it's a direct line,
another line of work.
So like it might be
tempting for some of them
to just go, ah, fuck it,
why not?
We're already here.
Okay.
Well, just because I always
assume that I'm like,
I'm like, what?
The private room is just
surely is somebody just
getting fucking wanked
off head or sex.
Why else would they be?
If so, I've been ripping off loads.
I've been absolutely shortchanged
on every occasion
of going into a private room.
The private room is basically just so you
don't fucking have to look away.
I shall then just see money
on your dollar.
Are you getting a taxi back?
I said,
how do you know if I jump in?
You got that way anyway.
Can I have a blast of your vape?
Well,
because I just feel like...
100% as yet,
private rooms,
just you being stingy
that's how it is
you all being tight
you being tight as fuck
you're just sitting there
making new freebies
if somebody's sexually
cleaning your house
surely there's just
surely
again maybe it's just
because I don't understand
the point of strippers
is
why are you just
winding yourself up
sexually
why are you just
giving yourself
just
it's an absolutely
uncomplicated way
to look at genitals
Daniel
that's all it is
it's just a really
uncomplicated way
of just going
that lass is really hot
I'd love to see her
when she clears on
and then you get it
and you have them
cheating on your wife
bang done
like you can see
naked ladies online
then
oh yeah but like
that you know
that's the same
with you
you'll not
look at the
Eiffel Tower
because you can
google it
like you're
totally happy
with the 2D
thing
you're totally
happy with
platform games
you
you didn't need
the third
dimension
no
flat
flat's fine
I live in a
cartoon
way back
Christmas
my mum and
dad came up
which was
classic
my mum and
dad and
Natalie's mum
and dad have
only met at
my wedding
and that's
when it was
like walking
down by
80 people
keeping everybody rotating around speed dating each other small interactions
and um so i was a bit concerned because my mom i think i don't think i don't think it's unfair to
say this but i think she's if not completely then borderline agoraphobic she doesn't leave the house
a great deal and um you know if i've run like a punch drunk gig and she's going to come
and she's committed that her and me dad are going to come to the gig she'll actually make herself
feel physically sick in the build-up of it because the thought processes of catastrophizing everything
and people thinking badly of her like like it's kind of it needs a bit of work but so i know that
my mom like leaving hoos and coming to Glasgow for Christmas to spend with like
another family of people
that she barely knows
or she's met once
and now that would be
like hard work
for her psychologically
so I was like
living in a little bit
of fear that it would
get cancelled
at short notice
and then
also
Natalie's mum and dad
hosting
and not knowing
like me brother
and me sister
and all that's coming up
as well
I'm like
they've got a bunch of strangers coming into the house and then i'm like oh i hope like they
get along and i hope nobody says something that offends the other i hope politics don't come up
i hope like natalie's dad doesn't start talking about trans issues in front of gab's lass
right and i'm like it's just this i'm'm almost thinking like me mam.
The anxiety of a family holiday.
The anxiety of a family holiday.
And it was like, sat having a coffee the morning before everyone turned up,
just going, have I just arranged an event that nobody wants?
Have I just arranged an event that is stressful for everybody involved?
And I just had a cup of tea, calm before the storm and we got a coffee
and it was absolutely class. I've got to say that I think for 95% of the world's population
I'm pretty sure things like Thanksgiving, Christmas and when it's weddings, whenever
there's like the whole family's getting together. Like, nobody talk about Harry and Meghan.
Yeah,
yeah.
It's just different generations on a time during very prominent,
you know,
fucking culture wars and two types of air quotes truth out there.
Yeah. I think a lot of people live in,
live in dread,
which is where I think it's skip to generation for us because we don't worry
about our family gatherings too much Because they're all
And you just have
Plenty of them
You just have
Plenty of them
You just have
The relationship dynamics
Are already there
And people know
How to negotiate each other
People know how to
Wind each other up
Without crossing the line
Yeah
Oh I think it'll be
I think it'll be
I think
You
Me and Jack
When we all have kids
And they all grow up
I reckon our family ones will be brutal.
I reckon dad will go, dad won't go bigoted,
but he'll go our version of bigoted.
Mum will still be lefty, big mad lefty.
They'll argue about that all the time,
but then they won't because they'll learn how to deal with it privately.
I'll go more centre just because the left will go too far.
So you'll not be good enough for anybody? No, no. the left will go too far. So you'll not be good enough
at anybody?
No, no.
The left will go too far,
left always does
and then the right will start winning
and I'll be like,
I don't like losing.
Everything you're saying is correct
but it seems to me
you'll have more money over there.
Like the funny bits for me
were like,
you know,
playing,
you know the celebrity game
where you each write down
the name of five celebrities
and put them in the, put them in the pod which was so funny it was
like my dad and logan yeah i have to write down five celebrities so like both freeze and i'm like
it's just like saying pass the fork yeah i'm not asking you to do anything that takes creativity
and he's like i can't think of any i was like right your favorite film blade runner harrison ford write down harrison ford think of any band the was like, right, your favorite film, Blade Runner, Harrison Ford,
write down Harrison Ford.
Think of any band, the Beatles, one of the Beatles, Paul McCartney.
Like, I'm not asking you to do something that's a challenge,
but for like even like that bit for a couple of the guests was a challenge
because it's like a part of their brain that they're just not using.
But like that's what made it kind of fun because like it would get to
people's turns
and they'd just be
like kind of stuck
and try and let my mom
just scream and
stan at my dad
to try and get him
to say Eminem
she's going to
stan
well you're going to
have to give us
more than that Linda
stan
it wasn't even
the one word round
because this is how
it works right
you put
everybody puts
five names in
you split off
into couples
right
and when the
when the pot comes to you with all of the names and five of them you put in but the rest of them
was by everybody else you pick out a name and you can just use anything but the name you can't use
letters like something that rhymes with and then now with a k or whatever like because i tried that
married to a pig little frog miss piggy no Piggy. No. Kermit. Right.
That's how it plays out, though.
Right, yeah, yeah.
That's exactly how it plays out.
Where your partner, like, ugh.
Yeah, like, I'm full of it.
Like, I have to remember my dad,
when she was like,
the current Prime Minister,
he was the councillor of the next check,
and he was like,
I know how he is.
I see his name, then.
It's gone.
It's physically gone.
Anyway, man, I was just like,
my husband.
Fucking, oh, my,
our granddad back when his,
when all of his brain was there,
when all of his brain was there,
when he was a fully competent man,
would still go,
buddy, buddy,
it's the man from the thing.
From the fucking,
from the movie.
With the guy that you like in it
with the fuck
the man
with the fucking eye
oh you're useless
oh my god women
yeah
there was a lot of that
that's hilarious
because like
people are panicking
the clock's rolling
and like
and then
people who are self-conscious
stop being self-conscious
because they're into it now
and you're like
oh great
and like
I'm fucking laughing
I heat off
this is why
this is the thing
that all of you
fucking people
who complain about
organised fun
do not fucking get
right
20% of the population
can be fun
on a fucking dime
ready to go
they're a rare fucking breed
and we're very grateful
for them
the other 80% of us
right
need a focus
we're as fun
but it just doesn't
come out as naturally
organised fun
giving people a target of fun to aim at.
Structure.
Allows more people to participate in the fun.
Add a competitive element to the fun.
So you do the first round where you can say anything, right?
And some of the celebrities you won't even know,
like my dad put in the lead singer of his favourite band,
yes, John Anderson, into the thing.
Natalie doesn't know who John Anderson is,
but she's seen Gladiators
she's like the referee
off Gladiators
so you can work around
the names that you don't know
and try and get them
like I didn't know
who Kay Adams was
so I done like
you know
there's a family of monsters
with like
Cousin It
and The Thing
and Lurch
and all that
and someone like Adams
so you can get them
to say that
Who the fuck is Kay Adams?
Exactly right
one of the Loose Women
So me mam and Bajan
Me mam and me in-law would get that
So
Are you looking her up?
I am
Kay Adams
But you're not looking up John Anderson
The lead singer of Yes
Oh hello Kay Adams
Good luck
Do I know her?
Oh my goodness She's a pretty lady Oh hi Do I know her? Erm Oh my goodness
She's a pretty lady
Oh aye
Hello
You know what
I was just expecting
To be an old woman
No no
She who
It
American sports
Caster in
Television
She hosted
Good morning football
In the NFL
She's an NFL lady
There we go
Oh my
So erm She's more famous than There we go Oh my So
She's more famous than me
Of course she is
She turned up on a game of
Named Celebrity
How many homes do you think
Your name come up in the game of
Celebrities
Oh
It's a one digit number
Mark Nelson showed up in my house
Somebody put Mark Nelson in
Natalie's like One of Kai's friends has depression Mark Nelson showed up in my house. Somebody put Mark Nelson in.
Natalie's like,
one of Kai's friends has depression.
I don't know,
let's just get his phone book.
Like narrow it down.
So then the next round,
you can only say one word.
So it's a memory.
Stan would have worked once M&M's already established
as one of the names in the thing.
Muppet.
People can't sing it
and you can't fool all the singers.
Like Whitney Houston, Cher,
like whoever,
you're just like,
Britney Spears,
like all of them are in
but you know if you can't,
oops,
you go,
oops,
I did it again,
maybe he's come up with Britney Spears.
And then on the final round,
so everybody's seen
all of the names twice,
you can only act out
what it is.
Garth pulls out Richard Gere and in front of
in front of me wife's
prudish mum and dad
mimes to be a gerbil
and then takes that gerbil and puts it up his ass in a tube
that's not even where I would have gone
Gere
Richard Gere
is point to your dick.
Dick.
Richard.
Dick.
Dick.
Richard.
And then
line of gear.
No Gav put a gerbil
up his ass in a tube
because it was rumoured
that Richard Gear
once put a gerbil
up his ass in a tube.
Not rumoured.
Factually true.
Is it?
Yeah.
Is this like
is this one of his kinks?
Did he own up to it?
No.
Is it like
the R. Kelly pissing on thing?
That was just like a badly kept secret?
As with Marilyn Monroe removing his own ribs
to suck his own dick,
enough people thought it was true.
Marilyn Monroe.
Marilyn Monroe ate her own pussy
after removing her ribs.
No, she removed it so she could bite off her own dick.
So that she could become
Marilyn Manson
that's why when the
fucking wind was blowing
from that vent
she was really trying
to push it out
because she hadn't
bit her dick off yet
yeah yeah yeah
and when she bit off her dick
and she became Marilyn Manson
she identified as a man
she was fucking mental
ah weird
weird
you're not even allowed
to call it mental anymore
when they do that
yeah well this is what
I mean in the future
like that I
and I know this is such
a well-trodden topic in comedy that i do think it will be a version of new hack within the next
couple of years but it is true which is that i can already tell what my types of bigotry are going to
be in the next generation right i'm not i'm not using the term unhoused Unhoused I'm not doing it
They're homeless
Oh it's for tramps
Aye exactly
Do we put a fiver in for this
Yes
Because we're wrong
Pass the jar
So you can do the granted
It's better
You know
They're not
You know
Especially considering
The cost of living crisis
And everything that's going on
In both America And the UK In terms of austerity And corruption in the government especially considering the cost of living crisis and everything that's going on in both america
and the uk in terms of austerity and corruption in the government and the housing market and how
it's all fucking rigged to benefit the rich and fuck over the poor it is absolutely the correct
morally conscious decision to not call them home and to not to not lump them with that stigma when
especially not that anyone deserves to be homeless,
but certainly 40 years ago, it was harder to end up homeless,
without a home.
There was less of a drug epidemic, all of this stuff.
Staying unhoused is kind of the best thing to do.
I ain't doing it.
They're homeless.
I'm sorry.
I'm not.
Without home.
Yeah.
But then I do worry that it's just me being a stubborn
Kind of like
For ages I thought
And we did discuss this
On the podcast
Changing the term
Suicide to unalive
I was fully against
But then I found out
That was just for
TikTok censors
Yeah TikTok censors
So I'm like
Okay okay
Let's not get too worked up
Yeah yeah
Nobody's that bothered
Aye
Unhoused
I can't say
mental
I'm sorry
I'm always going to use
the term mental
aye mental
I feel like mental's a thing
people say
you can't use the term crazy
fuck off man
I'm going to use the term crazy
here's the other thing
you can't use the word crazy
are you mental
it's also
the thing that people
seem to fucking forget
as well
with all these
we're such bad boys
no no
with all these offensive
terms and stuff
we can't say that
because that's offensive
you can't say that
because that's inconsiderate
sometimes I want to be
offensive right
and that's
it's not a great part
of who I am
and it's not a great part
of fucking society
but sometimes
when I want to hurt
your feelings
because you have upset me
I'm going to call you
a fat fuck
now do I have anything
against fat people
yes
obviously they're gross
no gonna call you a fat fuck now do i have anything against fat people yes obviously they're gross like there's just this bit of like hey let's just let's use the term
obese or naturally challenged
just fat it's fat.
You're a fat fuck, I'm sorry.
You're a dumb cunt.
Sometimes I'm going to use words that I know are hurtful.
And you creating other words to stop people avoiding saying this word just makes this word more powerful to me.
The more people you convince not to say the word retarded
just makes me go, are you turning this prime steak into wagyu beef man i've done
something in the comfort of my own home when nobody was around apart from me and my friend
right asked him if you uh what he wanted for food and he suggested a chinkies right you're quoting
here he said he said the very outdated
and one
that I'll not
drag my heels on
oh mate
and I
like I looked at him
like
mate
right
but then
just doubled down
and started saying
more racist words
for Chinese people
and I
should go to walk jockeys
we'll get one of them
I'll get
just like,
like to highlight
what he'd just done, right?
I started using like,
like I was using stuff
that I'd heard off the fucking,
what's that Clint Eastwood film
where he hits the-
Gran Turismo.
Gran Turino.
Gran Turino.
Zip ahead.
Zip ahead.
I think he said zip ahead
or something there.
And I was like,
I was using like
harsher words
than what he'd used
just to show him
how bad it was
and he was like
great
he was fucking
howling
I was like
oh no
you know like
one of them things
where if like
anybody whacked in
you'd just be like
it's not how it looked
yeah we'll just get
Hiroshima Dodgers
I don't want Japanese
mate
I very specifically want Cantonese I definitely don't want Japanese mate I very specifically
I very specifically want
I definitely don't want sushi right now
No no I want Cantonese
Chinese food
That's very specifically
From this particular area
Of Rice Munchers
The worst
We've got to put in for that
That whole bit
That whole bit
Get the jar for the graphic
Alright well but now that we're on the tour
now that
now that we're here
Cara showed me
because she's from the north
where society hasn't fully
Korea? No
no, not the evil Korea.
The worst Aberdeen.
She's from Aberdeen and she's
still friends with lots of people from Aberdeen and
she likes to use it as proof of like hey man because I love shitting on the north because
they're gross um uh but she'd like be like look at these people doing this amazing things up there
like you know hey these people that I I call everyone that she grew up with scum because
my wife is scum so therefore everything she knows is scum that's the that's the depth of the bit so she'll be like hey look at this this is amazing this is the people
do this they're smarter than you this person's better than this and you blah blah blah this shows
what you know and i'm like fair enough fair enough that's a very smart person that's fucking great
those northerners they're doing a good thing and then other times she's like i fucking know you
got me here um somebody had posted in their local group,
the local corner shop,
that was run by Aberdonians.
Aberdonians.
People from Aberdeen.
Indian ancestry people who have Scottish accents.
Third generation.
Third generation Scots.
Scots, Aberdonians, Scots.
Yeah, like when Natalie's brother gets asked
where you're from from.
It never happens with Natalie. She's very white for a brown girl. But Natalie's brother gets asked where you're from from never happens with
Natalie she's very
white for a brown girl
but Natalie's brother
is like where you're
from from
and he's like
Glasgow
I'm from from
Glasgow
yeah yeah
where's your dad
from
Glasgow
I'm from from
Glasgow
like I'm sorry
we can keep going
back
I mean say from
a few times
and I'll say oh
man
yeah yeah yeah
just yeah
just say why
are you that
colour
that's all that's what you want to say.
It's not the healthiest question to ask
and you should be really questioning
why it's important to you.
What do I put before jockey?
Because I've got noodles
but it doesn't feel right.
What do you,
what is the,
how are you racist to Omani people?
Without just being the lazy way
of just like.
Oh, literally camel jockeys.
Yeah, but that feels like
what, I feel,
but that's,
again, if you're going
to be racist,
They actually did
jockey the thing
that you say.
Are they?
I think it's Arabic,
so camels is probably
the racial slur.
But what,
but I guess my question
is what,
what racist,
good racism,
really top tier,
the best racism
isn't from far afield.
The funniest racist terms for Bulgarians will come from Romanians, right?
The funniest racist terms for Polish people will come from people in Estonia and people in...
Like the biggest insult in India is the word for sister fucker.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You will get the best racism against Omani, specifically Omani people,
from the countries surrounding Omani.
I don't know the answer to that.
I wonder what their version of racism is.
Yeah, they'd have to do some research
because they're not, like, from there.
Yeah, they're what I think you'll find.
This Aberdeen-owned corner shop had put up in their window
being like, this is not a packy shop.
Please stop calling it a packy shop. They actually put that out. They put that sign up in their window being like, this is not a Paki shop. Please stop calling it a Paki shop.
They actually put that out.
They put that sign up in a window,
which is a really heartbreaking thing
to like see as a thing.
Especially in a place that like,
especially in more working class areas,
they broadly boast about their communities.
And it's something that I don't get
living in a big city.
Proudly boast.
I'm just going to highlight that.
Proudly boast?
Yeah, I already said proudly boast. I'm sorry. No, no, I don't apologise for that. I like it i'm just gonna highlight that but proudly boast yeah but you said proudly boast i'm sorry and i don't apologize for that like it no no
proudly boast about like how we've got community where there's like we're not the big city fucking
liberals but we've got this community and i'm like if you're part of that air quotes community
and you're like hey could you not call us this fucking slur that we clearly hate and like they
put that up in the community thing and one person from the area had just shared that picture
with the phrase, aye, it is.
And it got more shares and more likes.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Small town, man.
Small town from a city.
No, no, again, it wasn't Aberdeen.
It wasn't like Aberdeen City, but it was the, you know,
the fucking towns of Aberdeen.
Aye. Here's the problem. You know, the fucking towns of Aberdeen.
Here's a problem.
Some racist terminology,
the reason it's harder for them to get away is that linguistically they're fun to say.
That's the problem, right?
Yeah.
Hey, hey, without bringing race into it at all just off the top of
your head what's the funniest telly tubby to say what's the funniest telly tubby name to say
tinky winky tinky winky and what is it those are those are funny tinky winky that's why
there's a couple of tinky winkies moved in the other side I everywhere do Tinky Winky's taking my jobs
Probably nick that bag
Like you never know if I'm being homophobic, racist
You never know what Tinky Winky is
Yeah
But I just mean in a sense
I think I've used this to very loosely very loosely, empathetically defend the word faggot
because just linguistically it's f-g-t-t-a.
If it's got an ink or an ack or an egg.
People like to say silly words.
That's something that's in comedy and history.
An I in a harsh consonant.
An I works with a harsh consonant a lot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Doesn't it?
Yeah.
And the problem with...
The reason Paki's definitely racist and offensive
is because you're obviously calling people
who are not from Pakistan.
That's a kind of Geordie and Malcolm.
Yeah, yeah.
Or just calling any black person African.
Like, it's just really like...
It's ignorant racism.
You know what blows my mind?
The fact that Maccams actually
call themselves
Maccams
because in my
head that is a
slur
that is a slur
to say Maccam
but they're like
oh we're Maccams
fucking right
glad you're
married
I think that's
like the Celtic
fans with Fenian
like Fenian is
like a
oh but has that
not got like
connotations religious connotations yeah yeah yeah but they call themselves Fenians they're like I'm a Fenian Like Fenian is Like a Oh but has that not got Like Connotations
Religious connotations
Yeah yeah yeah
But they call themselves
Fenians
They're like
I'm a Fenian
And
Is that owning the slayer though
It was a slayer
And they took it
No
You know what
Not sure enough
Yeah I don't know
Not sure enough
But I don't think
Mackham was ever a slayer
It just become a slayer
In the heads of Jotties I think I think Fenian might be The same sort ofur It just become a slur In the heads of Geordies
I think
I think Fenian might be
The same sort of thing
It was never a slur
In their head
And then
Protestants used it
So much as a slur
That obviously
To Protestants
Fenian's a massive slur
But if you'd ask Catholics
They're just like
Whereas I think
Hun on prods
Is an actual slur
What's the etymology of Hun?
Is it Attila?
It must gotta be
Why are
Why are Protestants
Called Huns? And then after you Google And is Attila? It must got to be. Why are Protestants called Huns?
And then after you
Google one over...
And is Attila the Hun
because he's Hungarian?
Where is Attila the Hun?
He's not the Mongolian lord,
is he?
That's Genghis Khan.
Genghis Khan and Attila the Hun,
do you reckon they were
like same generation?
Do you reckon that was
like Messi and Ronaldo?
No, Genghis Khan was the good...
I don't think we know the names of anyone else
who existed at Genghis Khan's time
just because he was so unbelievably good
at mass murder and rape.
There's not like a real reason,
but one of the theories is that
Hun was a common nickname
when discussing Germans during during world war one
so it's just that so call them germans call them the enemy i guess call them the enemy
so just that just just the etymology is that it's the enemy yeah now google why all hans are bastards
see if that's in there all right i'm glad that i'm glad there when my family's united there was no like
sectarian and stuff
like
I bet you
there's some Glasgow Christmases
where families have married
into each other
and then they have to have
Christmas dinner
and there's just
this like
there's just this
undertone
don't mention the football
don't mention
politics
politics
don't mention
any of the
we're just going to pray
before dinner
to which god
there was actually a bit where the footballers took their knee before
a game and Bobby brought it up like why is this still doing this
I was like oh I don't want this to be
a conversation
there must have been an incident
and that was it
why do those
why do all those white men who have lots of black
friends in life keep doing the thing that the black people are asking them to do?
I don't know, I guess the black people are saying that racism's not over.
I'm sorry that your white friends disagree.
Man in mixed race marriage doesn't understand racism.
Oh, God.
There was no drama.
Everyone just had a happy time.
Everyone got along.
My dog was behaved
Yeah
My dog is bad in company
Right what happens is
A lot of people come in
She gives them a lot of attention
She says hello
She brings a toy and barks
Everyone's talking
But none of them to me
So then
People are giving her the attention
That she needs
And then something fries in her brain
Where she stops looking
At people for attention
And just starts like
chasing stuff
that doesn't exist
around the house
and I was like
Do you regret not getting
a real dog?
Huh?
Do you regret not getting
a real dog?
I love her so much
Aye
Aye
If you could go back in time
and more faces there
with one hand
as a real dog
an actual dog
that was designed
for things
and to do things
designed as man's best friend
Yeah I'd have wanted
one of them
Okay I want one that loves cuddles I want one that'll an actual dog that was designed for things and to do things designed as man's best friend Yeah I'd have wanted one of them Right okay
I want one that loves cuddles
I want one that'll just come and just like
I'll be sat there and she'll come and lie on our back here and face that way
And I'll just be like, alright mate
I like that
Okay
Aye
It's absolutely worth the like anxious malpractices that you have
Maladaptive behaviour I think is the correct word.
It's worth just losing our mind every now and again
just to have the cuddly dog that's chilled to fuck
when nobody else is in the house.
That's what the same people who have Down syndrome say.
I have got a special needs dog.
Yeah.
And I don't know if it's bad training.
Because we've trained her well,
like as far as commands go.
But I don't know how,
like we've spent money on a trainer
to refocus her.
So we do like loads of focus training
because when she's focused,
you've got control of the dog.
But when that focus is gone,
you've got no control of the dog.
So like we've got like practices to engage focus focus but sometimes then practices can't be in play when
you've just got a hoose full of people that aren't pulling in the same direction no different
environment as well different environment so like um like when she was here on the party nature was
a bit of a nightmare running around like nobody was paying much attention to her but i think she
ended up like chewing a bit of paint off your wall because she must have seen a reflection of a light
going there and then we weren't paying attention when she did that
and we didn't get any of that from our christmas maybe it's a little bit like a little pocket of
it but like uh even she was fucking good as gold when we were just like oh she's gonna be a disaster
when the house is full which is all right a lovely day nobody disgraced themselves nah you got it
a little bit yeah i mean just like Yeah, I mean, just like,
I didn't think it was ever going to blow up.
I know you were anxious about, obviously,
your parents and your in-laws meeting,
but, you know, they've got lots in common.
People who shouldn't be Tories who are Tories.
People who get their news from one source.
I thought there was
there would be like real
like I really expected
like you and I
people who are slightly traumatised
from raising their children
yeah yeah yeah
I expected you to
you and I
to be like
this is going to be awful
and then just
took both sets of periods
to come in
and just complain about
the younger generation
being like
oh god they're all soft
you know the thing
the older generation
like to do
which
these lot don't hit their kids
I fucking can't
understand that
there was a bit
where because
there was a bit
where they were
talking about
how the old school
method of raising
children was better
of like disciplining
them and teaching
them like shouting
no and like stopping
them from doing a
thing rather than
like educate them
through it
which like
I've got a little bit of room for.
We used to hit our kids and treat them like shit
and they were scared of us
and it didn't have any effect on them.
Anyway, thanks for inviting us to Christmas
for the first time in 10 years.
There were no ramifications for the way
I was a parent all of those times.
Thanks for the four phone calls.
We get a year.
Lovely to see you all again.
I'm not doing any self-reflecting
on any of this.
Fucking idiots.
My parents didn't have their kids.
Ask them how much they see their kids
compared to how much you see
your fucking kids.
I've got a little bit.
I think there's a place for it. As long as you've got a bit of stoicism and you get between action and like like stimulus
and reaction and you make that reaction a measured one you know if your eldest child hits your baby
like i think going oh no no be nice play nice that'll hurt like which is like my brother's approach right i would be like
oh rain held down on that child so she never does that again like never do that like
crying now right i think there's a place and it's a place where like somebody else might get harmed
they don't do that for every little thing and waste it you need that for when you need it
but I'm not a parent
so like
you kind of make
these judgements
as a non-parent
but I like to think that
if
if my kid's gonna harm
me with a kid
that's when like
you get smite
from your parents
not hit
I'm not Sean Connery
backhanding me kid
but like
I think there might be
a time and a place
for like
that kind of
old school discipline yeah but yeah yeah yeah but again if your kid is running towards a time and a place for that kind of old school discipline.
Yeah, but again, if your kid is running towards a baby
and it's just got something in its hand
and it's bringing its hand down,
if you yell at that kid and be like,
don't hit that kid,
that kid was not aware that it was just about to hit another kid.
That kid wasn't running up there.
Oh no, let it hit the child.
You've also got to learn.
Self-defense, motherfucker.
Arms up Elbows tucked
Don't get me wrong
I think obviously discipline is a very important thing
And how you discipline your children is very important
But I think the ways you discipline kids are important
And so many people
They think they're getting across one point
And what they're actually doing is not getting across that point
You are adding levels of
Emotional understanding and emotional maturity That children do point. You are adding levels of emotional understanding
and emotional maturity that children do not have.
You are projecting a level of intelligence onto children
that they do not, yes, they're smart,
but they're not smart in the way that we are smart.
If you yell at your child after they've done something,
you are teaching your child that yelling is scary, right?
That's the number one thing you're teaching them, right?
Which is, I don't like yelling.
This is bad.
I know I'm being yelled at. I know I did something and i know i'm being yelled at but now i just know because my memory's so short i know yelling is fucking terrifying
and anything that happens i don't want to fucking do that so what i'm actually going to do is i'm
going to learn to hide what i just did because that i've not learned that's bad i've learned
yelling is scary and if i get caught doing this i will get yelled at and I don't want that. Like if you're yelling at a dog for pissing in your house,
that dog is just going to make sure
you don't say piss in the house and hide the piss
and now you've got piss behind your couch.
Well done.
All right.
Matt, our kid, Caleb, when he was fucking less than one,
Arlo had just been born, right?
Went up to see Arlo.
We've got the video.
Fucking slaps this kid
right on the head right arlo doesn't cry thank but a good slap a good bald headed slap
was that kaylin yeah kaylin did it harlow we've got the video it's brilliant right
man any one of us could have stopped it but we needed this footage oh no no 250 pound for you
he was framed he was there no no because again we were teaching the kid we were teaching it's
him we were teaching with kid it's the same way
we were teaching
with the cats
like you gotta be gentle
you gotta
like and again
you're holding them
by the wrist
and you're like gentle
you can touch things
palm flat
not nipping
not pinching
not everything
if we touch things gently
it means doing that
and Caelan's getting a good job
and he just
and for one second
brings it down
now
we could have taken him away
and we could have screamed
in his face
that he's not allowed
to hit kids
none of that
would have got through
none of that would have made any sense to him at all.
He's no idea.
You can't explain to him what he's, you know,
done as much there.
You remove him from the situation.
That being said,
our son does understand way more
than, like, we think.
You know me.
I just speak to him like he's a bloke.
Right.
Sometimes kind of laughs at me.
It's sinking in now.
You know when you tell him there
that you're going out to do a podcast?
Aye.
And then he, like, he waved at me out the door like and then uh and then you're like we're coming back after the podcast and he went back back and he didn't cry
when i left that's because you've constantly done what you've done and explained it to him and
eventually he's picked up words like back yeah oh man the other day because sometimes i just like to experiment i'll just give him full sentences and just see how much
his brain can sort out i was sat with him and went can you go get me the metal bowl from the drawer
beside the sink right he's 21 months old anyway yeah right and ran around the corner kind of went
i wonder what he's off to get Like let's This could be fucking
Anything
Uh huh
You
I pointed over there
And I said a bunch of words
And he picked up the words
Go get
Yeah yeah yeah
Man he fucking came back
With a metal bolt
From the thing
We were like
Ow
Is it fluke
Oh yeah
Is it fluke
Or
Could have been
Is one of his
Is there enough keywords in there
Don't know
Well it's yeah yeah
Because there is a drawer
That he regularly goes into
Who knows Who knows But Do you think he hears it like an asian person talking about starbucks
vendee grande blah blah blah blah blah blah blah macachino
so all the all the words that link the brand word together.
Yeah, maybe.
Aye.
Aye.
I think we're done on that.
Nope.
Happy Chinese New Year.
Bye!