Small Town Murder - #100 - Is There A "Killer Gene"? in Dewey, Oklahoma

Episode Date: January 3, 2019

This week, in Dewey, Oklahoma, a young man is born into the worst of circumstances, only to be raised in the best of circumstances. None of this matters as he follows a path of violence, prison, escape, and even more violence, finally finding out that he's not the first in his gene pool to end up in the same situation that he finds himself. His statements are brash, and his actions are much worse. This a truly crazy episode!! Happy 100th!!Along the way, we find out that rubber ducks are a magnet for baptist gamblers, that you can make murder worse just by what you say, and who wins the father/son death penalty race!!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Thursday! Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com & use our email: [e-mail] Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports! Follow us on... twitter.com/@murdersmall facebook.com/smalltownpod instagram.com/smalltownmurder Also, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On iTunes, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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my name is james petra gallo i'm here with my co-host i'm jimmy westman thank you folks so much for joining us for episode 100 oh we're very excited we made it to all the way to 100 this is amazing i'm we're we're our tuxedos are pressed i mean my tie is straight jimmy's tie is straight it's a we're it's on this t-shirt it's my top hat didn't even fit down here in the studio i had to tilt my head it was very difficult i had to take my white gloves off to get at the my notes and everything. But we're formal, but we're ready to rock and roll here. James, you look great.

You too. You're looking sharp. This T-shirt and boxers is really, I feel a smidge underdressed. Well, you should, Jimmy. I brought a cane. So I've been swinging a cane. That's why I wore boxers. Yeah, well, that's nice.

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I've been saving this one. Just it's in the back of the stove simmering going. I can't do it yet. It's going to be for a special week like this week. Next week, we're going to be New York. It'll be the state next week. But yeah, it's going to be interesting. We've been traveling so much.

Yeah. We're like, we're going to be. Are we? Are we going to be? Fuck, did I book a flight? Shit. Damn it shit damn it i'm in trouble i gotta do the disclaimer you'll be in new york you won't be gotta do the disclaimer here it is episode 100 but we still have to do it new people come aboard all the time and you never know so let's get on with it we have to do the disclaimer this is a comedy podcast right we're comedians. We're going to make jokes. All the facts are real. This isn't made up.

It's not The Onion from five years ago or whatever. It's not a mockumentary. It's real. This is a real deal. But we're going to make jokes. We do make jokes at the expense of small towns because everybody's from a small town. They're all shitty. And we're all going to make fun of all of them equally.

As a matter of fact, we have the one from my small town coming up soon, and so I will make fun of it unmercifully, way worse than any of the other towns we've ever made fun of. So you can see that everybody gets it. A good tongue-lashing. That's right. We get a bumbling police force, some lawyer that didn't do his job, a murderer. We're going to make fun of those people.

But what we try not to do, what we go out of our way not to do, is we try not to make fun of the victims or the victims' families because we're assholes, but we're not scumbags. That is true. We're still not scumbags even after 100 episodes. So if that sounds good to you, awesome. We are going to have an amazing time. If you think true crime and comedy should never go together,

you're probably not going to like the show. You're in the wrong place. You're in the wrong wrong place if you just want to have a good time stick around but then don't complain afterwards that there was jokes because we warned you that's what this disclaimer is is to warn you that there's humor so you're not in the wrong place at the wrong time that's right uh dateline's a good show you should listen case file those are good listen to those i don't know what to tell you if you want something dry. But the rest of you, I think it's time to shout from the rooftops, from your cubicles, from the inside of your cars, maybe with the windows closed. We'll see.

Or open, depending on your weather. Let everybody know it. Tell them, shut up and give me murder. That's right. God damn it. Let's go on a trip, Jimmy. What do you say? Okay.

Let's head on a trip. We're going to oklahoma again uh we were our last our our last trip to oklahoma was so crazy and phillips we haven't that it's we had to go back because oklahoma is one of the middle states oklahoma kansas has a bunch of a plethora of lunacy going on i don't know what the hell's go i don't know if it's the wheat or what's happening there that's causing this insanity. Goddamn Jayhawks.

This is a crazy damn case. That's all I know about Kansas. Kansas is the damn Jayhawks. I know, yeah. That's good. I know Dorothy, the Jayhawks, Yeah, I was going to say. And fucking wheat.

Wizard of Oz. That's it. There's a lot of shit growing. It's pretty flat if you drive through it. There's not a lot happening there in terms of topography. Not a lot going on.'re going to dewey oklahoma okay oh boy dewey oklahoma it sounds like a sound tell it sounds like a made-up place it does like where like some like uh hero high school quarterback came from in a movie you know what i mean it's from dewey oklahoma

sounds like the setting for like a flat top for a sketch comedy where they're just talking about cousin fucking that's true too yeah like some hacky shit from like 91 hacky bullshit well i fucked my cousin last night i fucked my cousin this morning and your cousin what do you think of that they're double cousins they're certainly telling the old how do you circumcise a hillbilly joke oh absolutely all the time there's going it's gonna happen yeah there's gonna be a scene where somebody is raped but also enjoys it yeah it's gonna be it's gonna be bad here yeah well this is dewey oklahoma it's in northeastern oklahoma very north oklahoma it's like 15 miles

from the kansas border okay so it's way up there near the northern border but not in the panhandle that's in the western part and that's a hardcore panhandle this isn't in the panhandle. That's in the western part. And that's a hardcore panhandle. This isn't in the panhandle, but you'll be surprised by that, judging by the behavior. It's about 50 minutes to Tulsa, Oklahoma, two and a half hours to Oklahoma City, and three hours to Phillips, Oklahoma. All right.

Our last... Get the fuck out of there. The scene of the last horror that we witnessed in Oklahoma. Jesus, that was a mess. That sound almost killed me. Yeah, that was a fucking disaster. As me as I'm researching it,

I'm like, this happened? That's the one, I think that's the one I laughed the hardest at. Because there was no, you didn't even have, it didn't need us. We could have posted text

with like the, you know, computer, Apple computer voice reading it. And you would have cracked the fuck up laughing. I could have just posted court document text. And speak and spell. And speak and spell.

And you guys would have been like, this is hilarious. These guys are geniuses. You know, a speak and spell podcast would probably crush. It might crush. You take all the personality out of it, and it would really probably, that's what some people want. Especially if it's got foul language. Oh, yeah. Shut up, you whore was the best part of that oh yeah was that a crime

and sports or was that a small town murder episode i think it was crime and sports i don't fucking remember it's been a hundred of these and 150 of those i have no idea of course you were all right well this place here that was great dewey is in washington county uh zip code 74006 uh area code 539 and 918 they can't be held with one zip one area code in this tiny ass town they need two they need two uh 2.5 square miles so 2.5 square miles of crammed yeah i don't know why you need that many people why you need that many area well i'm sure they're on a border of a crossover, but come on. Make it around the town. Figure it the fuck out.

Come on. Jesus Christ. Motto of this town, and this is real, right off the website here. Quote, the city of vision. Oh. That's a little dry. Well, it's also, when you hear about the history, there's no vision here. It's all past.

Well, it's also, when you hear about the history, there's no vision here. It's all past. Maybe it means they're close to the top, the north. They can see out of Oklahoma, which is vision. That's positive. Maybe that's it. Oklahoma's not known for their forward thinking. Vision of getting the fuck out of here.

I have a vision of it, and I see it. History of this town. In 1899, Jacob Bartles, who's a son-in-law of the delaware chief charles journey cake uh which is uh yeah journey cake journey cake what is a journey cake i don't know journey cake that's his name oh it's a guy's name his name oh the chief journey cake delaware chief charles journey cake packs meat and vegetables together and sends you on with a loaf of journey with a loaf of journey cake and then you go of journey cake, and then you go your separate ways. That's a terrible journey joke. I got you.

I was on board. So, this is Jacob Bartles. Of Bartles and James. I was going to say, who was building a wine cooler empire in middle America at this moment in time. Half of it. Half of it, yeah. He had to hook up with but they were separate places he's got the strawberry one but he's got the banana they had gotten their

separate ways is the problem and they're going to get back together steve perry's going to be living in uh fucking north oklahoma living in a lonely world indeed yeah i would say so has the vision to get out needs to get that that james guy to mix him in some banana and a strawberry he's about to make a fortune yeah it's gonna be like peanut butter and he's not gonna make any money because we stole that shit i'm sure i'm sure well this guy he purchases a grist mill on the north bank of the Caney River, where Bartlesville is now. Very exciting. He then moved his grist mill.

What the fuck is a grist mill? I think it's something to do with... So you get the fruit flavor. I think it's wheat. Oh, okay. And then he turns into wine coolers, I guess. I don't fucking know. This guy has nothing to do with wine coolers, by the way.

But he does. He does. I've never heard of any other Bartles. Any other Bartles. And everything's named after this fucking guy, too, as we'll get into. Yeah. Because he's made this town. He moved the gristmill and a trading post three miles north to some property that he owned, which became Dewey. Oh.

So he made this town. Just I'll go over there and plant my shit down. I want everything to be named after me. Except for the town. Except for this town. I'll go over there and plant my shit down. I want everything to be named after me. Except for the town. So I'm going to go over here. Except for the town. He built the Dewey Hotel in 1900. Then they popped up a newspaper.

They had the Dewey Eagle in 1900 also. Then the railroad came. The Missouri, the Kansas, and the Texas Railroad all came to Dewey in 1903. Holy shit. So this is four years before that. There was nothing here and then this guy came plopped a grist mill a grist mill down the next thing you know it's a goddamn there's newspapers and trains are coming in and out and what the hell happened so it's

pretty impressive that's the planes and he's about to turn that into a plains new york city with three railroads three railroads all crossing through there and then did they realize that tornadoes were there yet i don't know if they noticed that but uh they're about to it became a thriving community they had oil drilling uh there a lot as we'll talk about a lot of uh natural resources coming out of the ground here town was chartered in 1905 uh dewey was the host to the first and this this was a big deal here the de Dewey Roundup. Oh, got themselves a rodeo. Oh, baby. In 1908 was the first one. It was one of the most popular rodeo events that there was.

It was that and the Calgary Stampede. That still happens a lot. That still happens. And the Cheyenne Rodeo Days, which I believe still goes on, too, if I'm not mistaken. The oldest rodeo in America happens here, just so you know. Oh, God, that's terrible. Every state probably has claims that they have the oldest rodeo. Payson really has it, though.

Oh, they really do. Yeah, Payson's been around forever. It's a great rodeo, too. It's a good one. It's a great rodeo. What does that mean? What does that consist of? I don't know.

I've been there, and it's amazing. What does that consist of? A great rodeo. What does that mean? a great rodeo what does that mean makes another one better that's what i mean that one's exciting have you okay how many rodeos have you been to a lot of rodeos oh my god this is awesome so you've been i can honestly i've never been to a not one rodeo where the fuck am i going to a rodeo i'm taking you to a rodeo i grew up in new york not very rodeo friendly it's just not we're not a rodeo family this is not that we're kind of it's in the spring we're a sauce on sunday kind of a

family now there's a season it's rodeo season holy shit oh my god i get out here i'm not gonna get into rodeo out of nowhere so i don't know rodeo and all the time yeah i don't know what the fuck's going on you're going out there in arizona jay i've said i'm rodeoing yeah the fuck is that i've seen urban cowboy before so i i think i have the bull riding mechanics down so much fun uh but i don't know it's fun because you get drunk and you watch dummies be dummies shitty to the animals are they fucking not really bad things to them it's not like a matador situation i know nothing about rodeos i remember they were on espn before wrestling like two in the afternoon but it's riding broncos it's riding bulls it's it's roping it's james listen to listen to garth brooks

his rodeo you'll know all about jesus yeah i don't know it's white in the knuckle james gold in the buckle i have missed all the thing large segment of america and i can't say that i've missed it i've just not i've surpassed it i've not even surpassed it i've just went around it i just kind of did a little sidestep of it like i don't think i need to see any of that i don't know all the words to that song but there's boots and brass and cowboy hats james you're going wow that sounds terrible i think it's boots and chaps i don't know i don't want any of those things anywhere near me that sounds awful i don't want any of that stuff can i not have that stuff is that possible can we do like single malt scotch i like that you can do

that in the stands in a fucking flask james oh well pull that out of the center pocket of your murder pants i'm gonna get you some overalls on raw i've never wow okay we can't we're gonna get way off the subject just for the social media pictures it would be amazing i would be so i could not that would be amazing your discomfort in a picture would be funny just with my shoulder shrug i don't understand why i bet we'll watch the mutton busting, too. I'm fine with my shirt and pants being separate. I have no problem with that. I'm good with that.

I don't need a bib. I want to see you in overalls and no shirt watching a rodeo. That's... Drinking single malt. Take your shirt off, Hillbilly. Let's go. Get those overalls on and your shirt off, pal. You could be screaming that at people in overalls out there with their shirt on.

That is scary. Get your shirt off. Well, this was the annual 4th of July event here. The big thing until 1948 when it stopped being the big thing. And now the Dewey High School is on the grounds of where that was, where they had the Dewey Roundup. So they tore it all down. Tore it all down. It's all gone.

But they did have the Dewey Portland Cement Company. Oh. That opened in 1906 and was a major employer in the area. That was like everybody worked at the cement company until the 1950s when they laid everybody off. And then, obviously, the town went down a little bit. These small towns that are kind of by themselves, like kind of out in the middle of nowhere, they ebb and flow based on a company coming in.

If a company leaves, well, then a lot of people leave too because that's half the jobs just left. So one of those things. But they're betting on that company thriving too. Yeah, the people that live there. So a lot of the buildings and everything were made with Dewey Portland cement. Dewey had concrete electrical poles.

They didn't have like regular metal or wooden like they had back in the day. It's kind of scary because there's rebar in there, which makes that conductive. Well, conductive and good luck if you run into it with your car. And also, you can't climb that. They're still in use, the concrete electrical poles today. So they got hooks on them. Also, Dewey had paved streets and sidewalks before most places did because they had plenty of concrete plentiful concrete plant closed in september 1965 and that was that here

roads ever since dirt roads ever since in 1907 they had 748 residents so that's you know from nothing to that in less than 10 years. Tom Mix is a guy. You know who that is? Yes, I do. Okay, he's a famous... As an actor. He's a famous silent film guy. Yeah. He was the town marshal in 1912 here.

This is super weird. It's home. Dewey is home to the Tom Mix Museum and hosts an annual Tom Mix Festival and Wild West Show. Combined, they're known as the western heritage weekend uh tom mix serves as the city's visitor as uh the information center the tom mix museum is like the it's where you go if you want to know about the town james the last three words in tombstone are tom mix wept oh that's right yeah he cried that's right that's right. That's right. Okay, you're right. There you go. That's who he is. There you go.

Fucking good to have a hillbilly here. So thank you, Jimmy, for that information. Thank God for my dumb knowledge. Thank God for your knowledge. I knew something. You did. Yay. 100.

Hey, episode 100. There's like 100 of these. We did it. Ring the bells. We'll sing Hava Nagila right now. That's my fucking, that's my moment. that's awesome but you knew it man and i i know that line too i never put together with who the fuck that was though i was like oh that's i don't know his buddy or something i don't know movie's over yeah apparently so uh the vintage concrete jail house is called the tom uh tom

micks jail and uh it's by the dewey hotel museum it's just you know to look at some old west shit basically uh people in this town uh 3499 people reside here nowadays it's up five percent since 1990 so i don't know if that's just births or people aren't dying fast enough or what here but the median age is lower than normal usual uh average is 37 and a half here it is about 35 and a half which is weird uh it's weird too because the female population is about 56 which is way out of whack with normal and usually denotes more old people than here it's very strange i don't i don't I don't get it. The age groups that are high are 0 to 4 years old and 75 to 84. That's bizarre.

There's a lot of babies and a lot of old people. Old people are churning them out. Yeah. You've got to say, medical science these days, it's pretty impressive when the 75 to 84 class can have all these infants. It's going to be rough in 10 years when they're going to have all these orphans. Everybody drooling at the same time. It's to be beautiful uh married population right on course everything here is pretty much statistically uh right on course except for single with children is twice as high

as the average which uh is uh there's a little higher divorce rate maybe that's it also way high it's almost three times the widow rate here, which would explain the high female population. But I guess everybody, every old person that lives here is a widowed female. Apparently, it's the only way to calculate the population deal. I'm not sure race of this town. This is wow. It's actually below average and white. All right.

What's the first time we've seen that? I think white home is the progressive no it's not progressive we'll find it's uh 62.77 is normal for white here it is 62.03 okay so you know right under there but 1.35 percent black that's not it's not it's not black people uh man 2.27 percent asian so not well below the averages. Native Americans, about 15%. There you go. Which it's usually about half a percentage, half of 1%. It's heavy here.

Here, it's pretty heavy there. And about 10% Hispanic. Okay. So religion in this town, Jesus Christ, 71.1% of the people here are religious. That is a lot of religion. One would say too much, James. That one, I. I'm one.

Me. Probably you as well. Very much so. That's a little much religion, I think. That is some Alabama-level religion. Speaking of Alabama-level religion, 28.1% are Baptists. My Christ. Baptists, the Catholics of the Plains.

Now, what the fuck is this? Baptists, the Catholics of the Plains. What is happening? The Catholics of wherever Catholics are not. Holy shit. That's a lot of Baptists. Yeah, 2% LDS, 16.6% other Christian faith, whatever that is. 0.0% Jewish. faith, whatever that is.

0.0% Jewish. Like, no thank you. No thank you. Not a one. We're good. Out of 70% religious, not Jewish. None of them are. Thank the Jewish persuasion. That's not there.

0.0% Islam as well. It's pretty Christian. Let's just put it that way. It's all Jesus all the time. It's all Jesus. This is the Jesus channel. It's funny, too, because listen to these these numbers 71.1 percent are religious okay 71.1 percent uh the voting here uh in the last election 71.2 percent voted republican is that fucking crazy

wow is that like that is all of them and then a couple of the non-religious like five guys. Yeah, that's that's a lot of. Wow. That's that's crazy. Twenty two party line to twenty two percent Democrat there in that one. Six percent independence. That's actually very high. Independent unemployment rates right on the money.

It's a little over five percent right in their median household income, though, is where's, the people are working, but not for a whole lot. 53,000 and change is the national average. Here it is less than 33,000 is the median household income. 60%, Jimmy, 60% of the people there make under $40,000 a year.

That's too much. 60%. How do you have 60% of people under... That's crazy. That's so year. That's too much. 60%. How do you have 60% of people under? That's crazy. That's so low. That's a lot. And when you look at the upper income brackets,

they just don't exist in this town. How do you even believe in Jesus when there's no opportunity? You have to believe in Jesus. If you didn't believe in Jesus, you'd be fucking doing other things. That's why. You'd be fucking robbing somebody

or doing something. I don't know. Maybe if you do believe in Jesus, you're robbing somebody or doing something i don't know what maybe if you are do believe in jesus you're robbing somebody or something this is i don't know that's less that when you look at the stats i mean it's 20 make under twenty thousand dollars a year and it's like it goes from there it's it's it's that's low this is a poverty poverty driven area yeah but it's like they're blue collar and like they it's yeah there's a lot of poverty there's a lot of poverty. There's a lot of elderly people.

And also, if you have Native Americans, too, the reservations are very poor a lot of times also, which is a problem, obviously. Manufacturing jobs here and construction are the main jobs here for the most part. There's health care as well, which is kind of right on average, I would think, with the old people. Cost of living, 100 being average, regular par. Here it is 78. And health care is very high here. It's about 115. But the housing is super low.

Makes up for it. Housing is a 35. Median home cost here, $64,600. Sweet Jesus. Which is super. Medium. That's low. That is the median.

That is your average. which is medium. That's low. That is the median. That is your average. About 50% of the houses are worth between $40,000 and $80,000 here. So it's what we're talking about. And if we've convinced you,

damn it, you need to get yourself in the middle of a dusty funnel. Go talk to a psychiatrist first. First that, and then listen to the Dewey, Oklahoma Real Estate Report. Your average two-bedroom rental here is about $760. It's about $1,240 on the national average, so that's low. But the houses are so much cheaper.

I don't know why. If you have any credit at all, buy a house here. I found a three-bedroom, two-bath, 2,000-square-foot house. Needs some work, but bones are there. $49,900. What is that? $500 a month mortgage?

2,000 square feet. It's a 2,000-square-foot house for 50 grand. I found three-bedroom, two-bath, 1,132 square feet. This one's nicely appointed. You move in ready. $64,900 for a little family home, nice little family home. And then I found this thing here. If you want to stretch out, you've done well.

Somehow you own the concrete factory. I found a three-bedroom, four-bath, 4,637-square-foot house on 20 acres. It's handicap accessible, the whole home, and it has two horse shelters on the property and a, quote, gigantic garage, $445,000, which somewhere else would cost you way more than that. Yeah, way more than that. That sounds great. Yeah. Things to do.

This is the one here, Jim. Never mind the rodeo. Dewey Duck Derby. What do you do there? That's what we're talking about. It's a rubber duck race held on the 4th of July, which is when they used to have the rodeo. Instead, now they have this.

It's a fundraiser for the fireworks display presented on the 4th of July. You know how you guys enjoy those fireworks? Well, you're not having them unless you pay for this stupid duck race. Sorry. Duck race, as it takes precedence. People, quote, adopt the rubber ducks. They sponsor them, basically. Then the ducks are set loose.

Obviously, they do their thing. The first ducks, the first few ducks, they meddle. They have meddled duck medals. They earn prizes for their adopted owners, which is called gambling. You put money down, and then based on the result of a contest, you receive remunerations. That's called money. That's called gambling is what that is. There's no other word for it.

It's 100% gambling. That's the exact thing. But all the Baptists there can say they're clean and they don't gamble even though they all fucking just pay for the fireworks display and then race ducks

and cheer for them. You don't have to gamble on it. It just makes it a little more interesting, doesn't it, folks? How do they race these things? Do they put them in a tub? They put them in the water.

Is it a lake? It's probably a little... Who the fuck knows? They gotta have rapids to it of some sort. They call it... They set loose on an aquatic obstacle course in the park. Oh, geez. So I assume they gotta have rapids they call it they set loose on an aquatic obstacle

course in the park oh geez so i assume they probably have a water flow that's pulling them in one direction because otherwise they would just all float three feet from being pushed and then just in a stick together like the garbage heap in the pacific wherever the wind blows just blow them all kind of together with one straggling behind caught on a leaf or something they ought to make you try to make the goddamn thing aerodynamic you know like build your duck and bring it down like a duck whittling contest yeah that's the third of july is the duck whittling contest and then they float them the next day it it claims here that quote this is a fun and exciting event for all ages exclamation point i'm believing it I'm believing it. I'm believing it.

I don't know. I'm ready to go. The historic Dewey Cemetery. This is on their things to do, by the way, from the town. It's located here on Highway 75. There's headstones from as far back as 1899, which isn't that far back for headstones. From New York, I've seen them from the 1700s. Pretty much everywhere has them. The graves of notorious bank robber henry star uh who is the nephew of bell

star i don't know who either one of these people are uh can be found at the cemetery and the mausoleum of the bartles family all right who founded dewey yeah i can also be found in the cemetery pour out a couple wine coolers for him. Pour them on the floor, baby. That's right. We'll call James up and have a party. What was... Oh, it was Frank Nelson. Never mind. I was trying to think of the baby-faced guy.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I found out it wasn't. Definitely not. Neither of these guys. No. Nobody cares. No. This is some Oklahoma famous, probably.

Who knows? Crime rate in this town. We're interested in it. I'm aspiring to be Oklahoma famous. Oklahoma famous? Who knows? I mean, maybe we are. We don't go there. We have no idea. crime rate in this town we're interested in aspiring to be oklahoma famous who knows i mean maybe we are we don't go there we have no idea that one guy kept yelling fucking boomer sooner at our goddamn fucking uh at our dallas or houston show why is goddamn fucking so funny to me i don't know when it's because it was it makes me so angry that someone kept yelling that shit that it's one of those things where you kind of have to.

The goddamn fucking. Boomer sooner. Crime rate, though. Property crimes about 20 percent under the national average and murder. Violent crime, not murder, crime, murder, murder, crimes, violent crime, murder, rape, robbery and assault. Mount Rushmore of crime is about 20 percent assault the mount rushmore of crime uh it's about 20 under the national average as well so low crime rates small town uh now the murder in this town uh the first this episode is fucked let's just say that right on the start i was gonna have these

you know better adjectives for it but that that's the one. It's much better. It's crazy. When we get done with a murder and things go, that's not the end of it. There's more. Trust me. There's a lot more, and it's not just court stuff. When you think he's not going anywhere, he's going somewhere, and then there's more, and then there's even more than that. Unbelievable. It keeps giving, and then at the end is uh maybe

the craziest shit of all is is the very end of this episode is one of the last lines of it so you got to stick around there's some better than tom mix wept dude this is better than tom mixed as far as a lunatic goes yeah this is crazy shit so uh the first guy we're going to talk about here let's talk about a guy named Daryl Wayne Hill. Daryl Wayne Hill, and we'll tell you what all happens to him in his life a little later in the end. Daryl Wayne Hill is born in 1940. He's from Sperry, Oklahoma. He had a shit childhood.

He grew up with some from the 40s and 50s in Oklahoma, rural area. His father was a criminal from day one. Always a criminal, always in schemes and scams. And he was like a central plains gangster, basically, like a like a low level shit mafiosi from the from the wheat fields. Barry. Barry. Is it spelled Barry like the shoes? S.P.E-R-R-Y I don't know what the fuck

Sperry shoes are Sperry shoes like they're I don't know they're old people's shoes oh well that's probably why I don't know catch me back in like 30 years and I'll be like

yeah let me look on my shoe there hold on you're wearing a track suit and Sperry's probably yeah hey what the fuck why not we both will Jimmy

what are you talking about well you're damn right that's right I'm wearing Clarks right now. I'm close. They sound comfortable. So, uh...

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And also, his father ended up drawing Daryl into the criminal life here. And it's never good when your father brings you into crime. That's always bad. Whenever I see the old mob guys and it's like their dad put dad put them on to crime and i'm like what are you fucking doing i get that that's what you're doing but you know that that's probably not the best thing why would you do there's a lock-up episode where the dad like there's an there's like a dude that's like the baddest dude in the prison yeah and he finds out that his son is in the same prison and he's and he cries on camera and he's like i never wanted it like this and he finds out that his son is in the same prison and he's and he

cries on camera and he's like i never wanted it like this and he's like losing his shit and but because it's fucking tv they get them together they're not supposed to be you're sort of foreshadowing this jimmy this is oh my god this whole thing is nuts so uh yeah so that but yeah it's it it shit trickles uh-huh things trickle downhill and shit trickles even faster. It does. Because they're logs and they roll. They run. That's the problem.

They'll roll right down this fucking hill. Shit trickles down fast. Gravity can pull water all at once. It doesn't seem to... Shit log. It picks things up like a snowman ball. Just by the end of it. Who knows what it is?

There's shit at the core. There could be leaves and flowers on the outside. You have no idea. But inside, it's just a shit core. There could be leaves and flowers on the outside. You have no idea. But inside, it's just a shit core. There's a Ford F-150 attached to that thing. That's it. It doesn't matter. It's just a shit lock.

It's like a nougaty center of shit. That's the problem. That's disgusting. Disgusting. So, Darryl Hill here, when he's 21, he marries a 17-year-old girl, which in 1961 was not considered weird at all. That was considered, that was a close one. She was almost an old maid. Thanks for not molesting a minor.

Well, she was almost an old maid. She's got a 14-year-old sister. Do you have any brothers, any older brothers might want to take her on? Because we've got to get her knocked up here. This is Oklahoma in the fucking late 50s, early 60s. Let's go. Her room's as dry as the land. No one's going to want her soon.

We're going to have to send her to secretarial school, and that'll be the end of it. There you go. She'll be an old maid. That's what they used to tell these fucking girls. This is a girl named Virginia. She's 17. They met in high school. Must have been either he failed a lot, she was really smart, or it was a junior, senior, freshman situation.

I'm not sure. Or he was working there. Yeah. Well, it's funny because I feel like they might have run with a similar crowd possibly because they first met

in high school and then lost touch with each other and then met later on when they were both in a drug rehab facility. Hey, I know you from science class.

Remember me? Yeah. You're fucking smoking crack too? Although they weren't smoking crack back then but this is so weird i'm sure maybe junkies i'm sure probably because that's what you'd go to rehab for back then yeah that's just yeah you'd have to be like you'd have to be on have a needle sticking out of your arm definitely not coke not in oklahoma yeah no that shit didn't get there till i don't know two weeks ago i think they just got coke probably it's on

guys to find out everyone in oklahoma any minute now i think they just got probably it's on guys to find out everyone in oklahoma any minute now you're gonna get cocaine it's gonna be crazy it's gonna be crazy for a while uh and about 20 years after that people will start making crack out of it and you'll catch up eventually but just watch out guys you guys find out about pills oh you're gonna go nuts well that's what that's that's what they know about there because that's uh there but not the coke yet uh 1962 after they meet virginia gets pregnant uh so yes they get married and then she get her other way around she gets pregnant they get married that makes sense uh problem is they both continue to use every drug they could find at the time which is uh amphetamines which amphetamines back

then were just over the counter yeah i mean you could get if there was five if you watch tv like old commercials they're all for pep pills they're all for a housewife sitting there going i the whole house is clean dinner's ready and i look great my husband gets home all i have to do is take these little pep pills look at me i'm skinny too and then she like vacuums off quickly and you're like holy fuck right and that was speed that's what they gave people um also weed alcohol uh second alls which is a barbiturate uh that was popular in the 60s uh very popular with uh bikers in the 60s that was like the hell's angels choice drug with second second alls uh that was yeah if you read hunter thompson's book hell's angels like like everybody, he's like talking about different guys.

He's an all right guy during the day, but come dusk, he starts taking handfuls of second holes and walking around looking agitated, and you don't want to get in his fucking way at that point. Why take drugs that make you like that? I don't know. That's what I would wonder, too. I thought it was supposed to be fun. Well, the point is, the guys he was talking about, I think probably had shitty upbringings

where this was just all part of it you know it was all it was all part of one big cocktail that was uh being shaken and stirred all right at the same time this just makes them themselves yeah no shit also uh they had a cocaine from back then whatever their version of it was heroin as well and even moonshine whiskey fuck yeah whatever they can get their fucking hands on also they use something they called valo uh which was a nasal inhaler that they would inject four or five times a day with amphetamines in it so uh obviously that's the way you want to ride your pregnancy out fuck yeah and uh yeah but they did this together and uh they just pretended like it wasn't a thing i mean back then people would smoke and drink and shit when they were pregnant. But staying fucked up. Yeah.

Just constantly. They'd have drinks and smoke, and kids were, for the most part, fine. But they weren't fucking doing heroin and moonshine and second all and shit. That's, I don't think, good for your kids. Probably not. Probably not. They had a baby on March 17th, 1962. Addicted to what?

St. Patrick's Day. Well, he was born on St. Patrick's day so take your pick who knows uh he they named him billy uh billy uh they named him billy and because he was born on saint patrick's day they threw a patrick in there yeah so he was william william patrick hill okay billy patrick hill so they said yeah fuck it throw that in there i thought you were gonna say they named him like o'reilly yeah they foregone their entire last name they named him mcdonald we're gonna give him the most irish of last let's give him a different last name because i don't we could flake out at any time we don't want to tie you don't want him tied to us you know how that works uh so they billy little billy uh when he's a month old his parents have a custody dispute because not a stable couple, one that does, you know, just any drug they can get their hands on all day long.

You add a child into that mix. Stress will happen. You can take the straightest, most fucking well-prepared people in the world and you throw a newborn in their laps. There's some stress in that relationship immediately. Anxiety levels rise. Yeah. Just because you don't want to break it. Right.

You know, so whatever. But I don't think they were that concerned about that. But Daryl here tells Virginia that he's taking Billy and leaving. He said, I'm going to take Billy and get the fuck out of here away from you. And you ain't doing shit about it. I think that's kidnapping. That is kidnapping. Yeah.

But in the early 60s, that was considered a father who takes care of his children. He's a concerned father. And then they'd backhand the woman, call her hysterical, and give her some pep pills and send her on her way and tell her, I don't know, cheer up, bitch. What do you want from me? Call her hysterical. That's what they did. They'd call her hysterical and send her to a psychiatrist who would then tell her to

cheer up, bitch, would be the answer to it. And they'd send her on her way with more amphetamines and no answers to her problems whatsoever. And a kidnapped child. That's what the 60s were. And a man on the lam with a child. And as she sent out, the doctor grabs her ass, too, on the way out.

And he goes, not too bad, sweetheart. Work on that. You got a couple extra pounds. Keep that toned. That's what the 60s were like. Horrible shit. You want to fix your life? Keep that toned. That's what the 60s were like. Horrible shit. You want to fix your life? Keep that toned.

Yeah, I don't know. Smacks are on the... Look, tell you what. That kid's gone. That man and that kid, they're gone. You want to snag a new man, maybe spit another kid out, I would tone that ass up if I were you. That's my advice to you.

Cheer up, bitch. Have a good one. Refer all your friends to me. I'm a great psychiatrist. Feeling better? Feel better yet? This guy advertises, for all female clients, one visit only necessary. That's it.

That's his special. I'll cure any female in one visit. Just says, cheer up, bitch, and sends her on her fucking way and solves none of her problems. Turn around, let's see your shit up. Yeah. Tells her she's wrong and could drop a couple pounds. That's the fucking, that's how that works. Perfect.

Jesus fucking Christ. Awful. That is a Betty Lou Beats callback, by the way. A lot of people wear that Cheer Up Bitch shirt to the show. I love that shirt. I do, too. It's so good. It's like most women have that shirt on.

I'm like, that's the best. I love it so uh while daryl was passed out that's the funniest three words it's so funny it's just awful it should have been the end of tombstone that's it up bitch cheer up bitch it was a sam elli no oh you know what what? That was a famous cowboy actor that did that. I forget his name. God damn it. Yeah, he did like a-

It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. We'll be stuck on Tombstone all night. I want to hear Sam Elliott say, cheer up, bitch. Cheer up, bitch. I would love that. As he opens a Coors Light one. I want to hear all celebrities.

I want to hear Morgan Freeman say, cheer up, bitch. Don't you? I do. Don't you want to hear- I want to hear so many of Morgan Freeman say cheer up, bitch. Don't you? I do. Don't you want to hear him just cheer up, bitch? I can't do a Morgan Freeman. I've got to get my voice frogged. Cheer up, bitch. I can't do it.

James Earl Jones, I want to tell someone to cheer up. That'd be wonderful. Because you would. Cheer up, bitch. You'd be like, whoa. I should cheer up. He's right right i am a bitch anybody would say that yeah some eight foot tall man who weighs 500 pounds be like i'm a bitch

he he nailed it i guess i am jones has told me uh yeah so uh when daryl was passed out one night uh virginia he had to be passed out good he was a fucking drug addict and a drunk, so I'm sure he was crashed pretty hard. Virginia rolled him up in a carpet. This is awesome. Rolled him up in a carpet and beat him with a skillet and a baseball bat. Holy shit. Which is fucking amazing. She worked him over.

She rolled him up in a carpet. Did she duct tape it? I think once you're rolled in a carpet you don't have to be ducted i mean you just roll and you're not if you're being beaten with a skillet the fucking baseball bat while you're passed out imagine waking up to that and you can't move your arms or in your head you just see a thing of light at the top and it just hurts and you don't know why is your head hanging out of the top and she's just beating him about the head and face? She just worked his ass over. Jesus Christ. Which is crazy. So that was an issue.

Did she get the kid back? Well, yes. He didn't leave. Oh, he didn't? They stuck together. The next day they still had to get drugs, so they need each other. That's the problem. That's why drug addicts like that don't break up a lot.

Dope, sick love. Watch it. These people don't like each other. That one couple doesn't. It's creepy. That's why drug addicts like that don't break up a lot. Dope sick love. Watch it. These people don't like each other. That one couple does, and it's creepy. It's weird. The blonde girl and the guy with no teeth who talks about sweaters. Whole closet, all sweaters. That guy.

Yeah, those two. They like each other, which is fucked up. Wasn't he wearing a Fila sweater, too? I think he was. No, he was wearing a sweater, like his father-in-law or future. But he had a Fila sweater on when he was out, wasn't he? Oh, probably. Probably, yeah. I think he was. He was wearing like a sweater, like his father-in-law's future. But he had like a Fila sweater on when he was out, wasn't he? Oh, probably, probably. I think so.

I like when he's writing the letter to her in jail. She's in jail and he's writing her a letter on a paper bag. He's unfolded a paper bag and made it fucking... He's going to mail that. And he's made stationery out of that. And he's got like a golf pencil that he clearly took from the otb for free like a lotto stand you know what i mean and he's fucking writing her this thing and he's like right down on it and some junkie scumbag comes up to him that he knows

he's like what's going on bro and he's like just like writing a letter to my girl and he starts writing it and this guy goes yo man let it, let it all out, man. Tell her how you feel, man. Just fucking tell her how you feel. And I'm like, she's a junkie who's in fucking girl jail, and this guy is a fucking strung-out junkie writing a fucking letter to a girl in jail in a bag on the front stoop with this shit. No one needs to know how anybody feels. Worry about logistics, bail bondsmen, public defenders, and shut the fuck up. Oh, that's creepy. Okay, sorry. In the back of his mind, he had to be thinking, save a little bit of that. I got to take a shit. about logistics bail bondsman's public defenders and shut the fuck up oh that's creepy okay sorry

in the back of his mind he had to be thinking save a little bit of that i gotta take a shit yeah let me just don't use the bottom of that bag that bottom soft soft it's like you've been working it over that's just how he was doing he's like hey man and he's like right next to him like yo tell her how you feel bro he was even making the other junkie uncomfortable he was like all right dude all, all right. All right, man, like fucking back up. Give me room to write and shit. You're killing my boss.

Jesus. So that's not the only family problem, the skillet baseball bat beating. It's the funniest, but it's not. It's pretty solid. It's pretty fucking funny. That's great. A woman in Oklahoma whooping a drunk, rolled up in a carpet with a skillet. It's pretty fucking amusing to me.

I'm sorry. Rolled up in a carpet with a skillet. It's pretty fucking amusing to me. I'm sorry. But when Billy was four months old, Virginia's, I'm sorry, his father's father here, Daryl's father was shot to death by police as he committed a burglary of a gas station with Daryl. Oh, no. With young Billy's father, Daryl. So now Daryl has now been caught in a robbery and his father has been shot dead.

Jesus. Daryl's father. Pop Pop's dead. Billy's grandfather is now, the baby's grandfather is dead, shot to death by police. So this is right away quite the lineage this kid is from here.

Following month, Daryl, the father, the baby's father, is sentenced to two years in prison for the burglary, which nowadays, he would be charged with murder because his partner got killed, which is, that's crazy.

He would be in the car, our liquor store analogy, that's Daryl, and instead, Daryl got two years because this is the 60s at that point, so Virginia.

If the guy gets killed by the cops, you get charged with murder too yeah if anybody fucking dies you get charged with shit i don't know if it's murder but it's a death related fucking thing yeah it's a reckless endangerment you are whatever if any if yeah if the if a liquor store owner shoots your partner that's murder for you yeah that's your fault anybody dies it's your fault because you've made it a situation where people can die you're negligent for everything that happens from then on, I guess. That's probably what it is, negligent homicide.

It's like a negligent, yeah. So he's sentenced there. Virginia brings Billy at this point to see his father on a prison visit, and that is the last time Billy ever sees Daryl. Really? He's less than eight months old. He's taken to the prison to see his dad and he never sees his dad again here and so he obviously doesn't remember him he's an infant at this point uh meanwhile virginia is going from couch to couch going to like shelters and shit uh she's a mess

she's a single mother drug addict at this point with the other drug addict is in prison like this is a disaster she's gonna ride couches for the next two years until he gets out and try to figure something out well she ended up taking billy to daycare and didn't pick him up for three weeks wow at one point that's a steep bill quote forgot to pick him up for three weeks three weeks not an hour no oh shit it's 5 30 oh my god i'm supposed to be there a quarter to five nope uh Nope. Three weeks. What does the daycare do with a kid that doesn't get picked up for three weeks? Nowadays, if you're 45 minutes late, they call

fucking child services nowadays, but back then, they did nothing. They just held the kid, and then when you came, they went, that was, don't do that again, and they gave the kid back to you. That was a long time. It was a long time. Damn it. We had to beat this kid constantly, but he eventually shut up. That was a long shift. It was a long time. Damn it. We had to beat this kid constantly, but he eventually shut up. That was a long shift you just worked.

Jesus, wow. You've really been burning the midnight oil, eh? You're a fireman that works three weeks off, one week off? Right. What is that? Jesus Christ. That's a crazy shift. When Billy is less than a year old, he's a little over eight months old, finally Virginia

just gives him up for adoption, which is the best thing that could happen. Eight months old. Eight months old. The best thing. He doesn't remember any of the horrible shit that he's seen. Skillet beatings and the like. Three weeks at a daycare center. Three weeks at a daycare center.

And he's going to hopefully get up. Anything's better than this. Anything. Foster care is better than this. And that's fucking spotty. Yeah. So anyway, meanwhile, at this point uh daryl he gets out of prison and uh keeps up his behavior obviously because what the fuck else is he gonna do if you

if you get arrested committing an armed robbery with your father who's killed in the process you you really your life is pretty fucked at that point you're not gonna get a square job right probably you're not gonna stop now what's the? No. Now, Billy ends up being adopted. Okay. Lucky for him. His name is changed to Jeffrey Timothy Landrigan. Landrigan? Landrigan.

Landrigan. Landrigan. Landrigan, we're going to call it. Is it like Landragon? It's Land, R-I-G-A-N. Okay. Landrigan. Landrigan.

Landrigan, we're just going to call it. Landrigan. Sounds good. Jeff. Yeah. Landrigan. Landrigan. Landrigan, we're just going to call him. Landrigan. Sounds good. Jeff. Yeah. Good old Jeff. Good old Jeff. Jeff grows up with his foster parents, adopted parents.

The Landrigans. The Landrigans, yes. You know the Landrigans. You know them from church. From the Baptist church. The Landrigans. They got a son named Jeff. Jeff.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's Jeff. You know that. You know Jeff from the Baptist. Yeah the Landrigans. They got a son named Jeff. Jeff. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's Jeff. You know that. You know Jeff from the Baptist. Yeah, you got it. So he's Jeffrey Timothy Landrigan. Jeff grows up in Bartlesville, Oklahoma. Yeah.

Home of Mr. Bartles himself, baby. Motherfucking Bartles, baby. He goes from Bartles Town to Bartles Town. He's not messing around. I feel like they really blew it with the cement factory and tom mix is your mayor or governor or whatever it was it could have been a fucking so much so many uh our mayor's name mix that's how into cement we are so much we so much we fucking care our company is tom ready mix that's what it's called yeah mix and on top of that our wine coolers have cement so

we got that going for only wine coolers in the world that are half cement all our bars just serve cement they serve cement mixes that's the only thing they have really stick in your stomach so he grows up he grows up in a nice house like a real nice house uh there it was parents living with they had an older daughter who's like a teenager so they were you know the older parents that probably back then you didn't have kids when you were 40 38 you know that was like dangerous so now like we said 75 they're having kids in this town as we know of uh but back then they didn't really do that so that you would adopt a kid if you wanted another kid and they go out and they adopt jeff here uh but the daughter was was perfectly well behaved proper you know the whole deal good student you

know does community work and she's a perfect model child the daughter uh jeff uh his parents notice that he has a bad temper right away which you have to wonder what the fuck was he born addicted to like you were saying too who knows what what his nervous system and his brain has been and the doctors didn't do anything about it no quit that shit cold turkey yeah they didn't know and they just yeah and not even cold turkey because if he's if he's nursing which he probably was they weren't affording formula right put it on my tit and then put the needle in the other arm i'll rotate shooting up each tit i can't have the needle in the same arm the tit's on with the kid. Jesus, he's going to bump the fucking, you fucking moron, goddamn idiot.

I'll wait till you fall asleep, throw you up in a carpet and beat you with a skillet. I'll tell you what. We figured out what the argument was about. That's what it was. Jesus Christ. Kept bumping the plunger with the baby softball. God damn it. So that's a shame when that happens.

So he has a terrible temper, young Jeff. Gets in fights in school. By the age of 10, he's abusing alcohol. Jesus. By 10. Not 10. That is very young to abuse alcohol. But I got to assume the parents don't know.

No, I don't think they do. They don't know what to do, and they don't know what to even look for here. At assume the parents don't know. No, I don't think they do. They don't know what to do and they don't know what to even look for here. At age 11, he's arrested for burglary and attempting to break into a safe, which is crazy. This is 11.

This is pre-junior high school. Pre-middle school. And he's ready to, at least, he looks at a safe and goes, I can correct it. I think I can get whatever's in there. I can get in there. That's scary. At 11, I was like it. I think I can get whatever's in there. Hang it in there.

That's scary. At 11, I was like, how does that even work? What is that? You put your ear up and you listen, like in the movie. It's like, fuck, man. So he's in there attempting to open a safe. Yeah, he's trying to break into a safe and arrested for burglary. At 11, well, he's an alcoholic.

What's he going to do? You get an 11-year-old alcoholic. They're very undependable. That's the main thing about them. They don't show up for work ever. then when they do they try to break into the safe so that's what the fuck that's why you don't hire alcoholic 11 years old it boosts your confidence well that's the other thing too he really shoots it through the roof that's what happens but i can shoot back vomit i can over here so junior high school by middle school he's got a serious drug problem

which seems early for that uh he was uh he was using drugs before he went to school during school after school it's like seventh grade that's too young for this shit uh several times teachers had to uh wake him up at the end of class because he fucking nodded off because he was on whatever the shit. He was a total drug addict. He started skipping school. He was stealing cars, spent time in juvenile detention centers all over the place. And these parents, they don't know what to do. These adoptive parents, they're like, our first kid came out perfect.

We've had this one since he was a baby. We got the puppy young. He should be good. Like, what the fuck is wrong with this kid basically uh he's cited for curfew violations public drunkenness he wrecked two of his parents cars and alcohol related accidents as a teenager so he's that asshole so does he have do they adopt anybody else other than him just him okay so maybe they shouldn't have after him they're like no more i don't know i don't know if they were the right people to adopt him.

I don't know what was going on under the roof of that house, but clearly nothing correctional. Well, apparently there wasn't anything to correct. Was he just a bad kid? He was an infant. There was nothing to correct. But I mean, throughout life, there comes a point where you've got to smack the shit out of him from time to time to get him to understand. It's Oklahoma, I'm sure. As we know, the Golden Belt Award from oklahoma as we found out yeah uh but but this as we found out from uh

what's her name uh from peru uh grun susan grun so anyway yeah yeah this though i don't know what it is i mean they i assume they look at the daughter turning out perfectly and we did that right yeah uh the other thing too is what if a kid's cutting up this much to the point of being an alcoholic yeah how do you i at 10 you just put them in their room right they're 10 right like you can't until they're like a older teenager where they could like you know do things you have physical control over them to just put them places but it's crazy they're grounding him from gin at 10 yeah like that's fucking bananas so he uh he gets he's arrested for burglary for dui as a teenager and possession of marijuana also of course uh in 1981 uh he was awaiting he's 19 years old at this point jeff uh was awaiting trial on the marijuana charge jeff Landrigan. Hey, look at that.

He's awaiting trial on that, and he and a friend from high school get married. So he decides, this is a good time to get married. I'm 19. I'm in legal trouble. My whole life is fucked up. I think I'll make a good decision

and pick the person I want to spend the rest of my life with, probably. What's his name? Right now. Jim. Yeah. He marries a girl from high school, and he's happy. But three weeks later, he's sent to jail to serve four months.

Oh, my God. So he served. That's his honeymoon, is serving. Oh, Jesus. Bye, sweetie. That's very romantic. It's very romantic. The whole thing's really just a dream.

Barely had a chance to consummate. Swept right off her feet, and it's a dream, Jimmy. She's living a fucking dream, this woman. So August 24th, 1982. He's got a normal social circle. He now has a young son also with this girl. They had a kid quickly, as they do in these stories uh so uh he's got a lot of friends he's you know a social life like a normal person he seems to be

um you know he's he's works he works like whatever menial job but he has a square job and a wife and a kid and he seems to be putting together a functional life he drinks and shit like that but i mean he's 20 fucking 20 years old and all that sort of thing. So he goes with his wife and his young son to a party at a trailer in Dewey. Now we're talking. You can't have a party in a trailer. I'm sorry. You know, if you have a trailer, you don't have a party.

You don't have enough room for a party. You don't have enough room. You can party around the trailer. That's what they're going to do. You know that's what they're going to do. It's going to be like the McPoyles in Always Sunny when they're at the football tryouts. They're just going to park it and fucking have a tailgate out there. You know it's what they're going to do. It's going to be like the McPoyles in Always Sunny when they're at the football tryouts. They're just going to park it and fucking have a tailgate out there. You know it's going to happen.

That is a great family. Of characters, they did a great job making that. They're pretty funny. They're goddamn funny. The girl is terrifying. That's Marilyn Rice, which is hilarious because she's so not terrifying in real life. She's nice looking and kind and a very normal person and they make her scary frightening repulsive it's that's how funny she is disgusting that's

how funny she is though she can make herself repulsive and she's not at all she's a nice person she's amazing uh so uh they go to a party and she's they're taking their kid to the party i don't know what kind of party this is but uh they go to a party in dewey uh it's at the trailer of a man named gordon aiken uh which like you said about somebody else i think that's garth brooks real name gordon aiken that sounds way more than gary campbell was the last one i think there's actually a gary campbell country singer they're probably they're got it well there's probably a gordon aiken too so uh uh they uh they get there they get there at about 8 p.m so it's an evening party that you're taking your infant to i don't know what's up with that uh soon after they arrive uh jeff landrigan and uh his family of his wife and

his son and aiken of gordon aiken of his trailer here of the trailer akins of the dewey trailer akins you know they all go out to purchase a fifth of whiskey yeah so it's time to party now damn it didn't do it on the way over fifth they're gonna share a fifth of whiskey baby uh on the way home back to the trailer park uh the group picks up uh picks up landrigan's brother-in-law, Robert Martinez, obviously his wife's brother. They return to the trailer where Landrigan, Robert Martinez, the wife, everybody's there. A guy named David Dayton, a woman named Donna Favier, and then Jeff's best friend for years, Greg Brown. This is his best friend. They are tight as shit greg has

recently asked jeff to be uh his son's godfather great so they are just they're the tightest tight can be they're as thieves thick as thieves they're the two two best friends here in this scenario the whole group begins drinking we drinking whiskey and smoking weed they're smoking joints they're drinking whiskey they're having a normal 20-year-old night. Not a terrible decision. Not a terrible decision. Maybe get the baby out of there, but whatever. That's, you know, whatever that is.

They're 20 years old. They're drinking and smoking and doing their thing. So they're all hanging out. Apparently at some point, and this is a problem when you mix whiskey into a scenario, at some point Jeff and Greg, the two best friends here jeff landrigan and greg brown begin calling each other names and start needling each other yeah and then sometimes it's friendly you know good natured ball breaking and shit like that but then they start calling each other a punk and shit like that okay that's when it's starting to get uh serious here they begin arguing over uh who could

win in a fight so this is a stupid argument that 20-year-old drunk guys have. They don't want to fight. They have no disagreement other than who would win in a fight. That's insane. Think about how pointless that is. I've done it a million times. I've had the argument. The fact that it would escalate farther.

But it's like we don't have an a beef to even figure it out what's the difference like it doesn't make a fucking difference apparently though uh this really started to get uh get out of hand and they really started to argue apparently by what was told at first uh Jeff Landrigan started to leave and Greg Brown pushed him against the trailer wall and told Jeff, quote, if you want to settle the argument, we can take it outside. OK, this is what I mean. This escalated from will you be my son's godfather past this joint to let's fight outside when they have no beef whatsoever. They literally have no argument with each other.

This is this is fucking nuts. It's crazy. So Brown goes outside. Greg Brown goes outside. Jeff Langren follows him out there. Now, according to Gordon Aiken, Landrigan at this point was holding a knife behind his back. He had a knife behind his back that Greg Brown could not see. back that that greg brown could not see so uh uh gordon aiken says that uh that uh that jeff rushed uh to our gordon aiken at this i'm sorry he didn't say gordon aiken rushed to the bedroom

to get his rifle at this point because he thought shit was gonna get out of hand so he figured i'm gonna escalate it even further yeah we're gonna have fisticuffs and possibly knife play let's throw bullets into the equation as well or he just i don't know if he throws a fire shot in the air and everybody calm the fuck down and be like an old-timey cowboy or something but uh yeah he goes back to get his rifle in the meantime though uh while he's going to the trailer bedroom back uh jeff lunges at greg brown and stabs him in the chest at some point uh aiken gets back to the living room with his rifle, and then another guy there, the Dayton guy,

he takes the rifle and points it. He grabs it away from Aiken because he saw what happened, and he was like, I'm going to... I got this. I got this, because Jeff was going to have to go, what happened first? And then this guy's like, I'll take care of this shit. He points it at Jeff and says,

back up or I'm going to blow your head off, which is a pretty straightforward threat. So at this point, Jeff takes off and escapes between two cars. Meanwhile, his wife and infant are here. They're there. Right. First, don't fight in front of your whoever you're bringing with you. That's stupid.

Number one. And never fight if your baby's present. Never. That's always bad. Or your child of any age. Let's just say that. Don never fight if your baby's present. Never ever. That's fucking always bad. Or your child of any age. Let's just say that. Don't fight in front of your kids. And, you know, if you do fight in front of them, how about don't stab people?

You're setting a bad example. Let's just say that here. Set the tone for quite the life. So Jeff Landrigan dips out and escapes between two cars while Greg Brown collapses on the ground back where they were. Landrigan runs away from the trailer park and runs into the machine shop, a nearby machine shop of a guy named Alvin Burns. And he just tells Burns, quote, I just wasted a guy, which I don't know why you'd tell us. No. Hey, how's it going you you could

say somebody just tried to rob me or i got you could there's a lot of ways you could say wasted again i just wasted a guy whoa well bio can i get you anything drink would you like a water anything at all fuck it's a tie it's a it's a it's a machine shop so i'm sure they have a tv from like 30 years ago with a bad talk show on. You can sit and watch that. I mean, it sounds like that's a good opener for if you need some shit. That's not bad. Yeah.

I just wasted a guy. How can I help you? Whatever you need, sir. Shit. Can I get you some machine parts? Because that's what I do here. I'm great at machining shit. You need anything machine?

Because I got it. I can make parts. Right. It tells him he wasted a guy, which is fucking interesting. Yeah. This is this is goddamn crazy. So he ends up being talked to. Obviously, the police pick him up, you know, because he did this in front of six people that all know who he is.

Sure. Pretty clearly. Greg Brown dies from his stab wounds, which is, you know, that's murder. You could say he he is being interviewed. Jeff Landrigan is being interviewed by Washington County Undersheriff Jim Epler. And he's fuck. This is amazing. He said, what happens?

And this this this Jeff Landrigan just comes out right from, he's the most honest asshole we've ever had. The undersheriff's name is Jim Epler. And this is the quote from Jeff. Quote, Jim, I tried to kill the motherfucker. I don't take that shit off nobody. I cut him twice. I think I cut him twice. End quote.

Jim, listen. Let me tell you something, Jim. He said that shit like somebody doing an interview with Diane Sawyer. I said, listen, Diane, let me explain why that domestic violence happened in my home and why I shouldn't be kicked off my TV show. Listen, she was younger than I thought she was. And I punched that bitch. I did. I punched her twice.

Jim, I tried to kill the motherfucker. Can we just put our card? Listen, Jim, let's pray tell. Jim, let's not fuck around. Listen. Jim, who are we kidding here? We're both adults, aren't we, Jim? Love the Christmas card last year, Jim.

That's terrific. Listen. Like that tie, Jim. Where'd you get that? Is that silk? That's terrific. Now let's get back to this case. I tried to kill a motherfucker. I tried to kill that

motherfucker. Did I tell you that? I don't take that shit off nobody. I cut him twice. I think I cut him twice. I'm not going to lie to you, Jim. Solid statement. Solid statement. It's going to be tough at trial after you say that. How are the kids, Jim? By the way, Betty, tell her I

said hello. Her pie last year at that gathering unbelievable unbelievable melts in your mouth so that bitch is really cheered up she's cheered up we're happy so uh this goes to trial yeah obviously uh they think they have a pretty good case against him uh you know a bunch of people that he knows very well watched him do it. And then he told the undersheriff, Jim, I tried to kill that motherfucker as best I could. Obviously. So at trial, Jeff testifies on his own behalf. He says that as they started to drink and continue to drink, he said that he could see that what was it was first.

It was just friendly back and forth like oh you're a bitch ass oh you're a bitch ass oh you're motherfucking like people do like drunken idiots do uh but then he said after a while he said it was uh uh he was making greg angry and he could tell that it was making greg angry so he says that as he was leaving uh greg grabbed him by the throat and threatened to whip his ass. Now, the other guy said he pushed him, grabbed him by the throat, whatever. They were drunk. Well, it doesn't really matter.

Jeff said the men went outside. He also said that he attempted to go back into the trailer, but somebody pointed a shotgun in his direction. It was actually a rifle, and he has his time frame mixed up because that was after the stabbing. Got it. He says, I tried to go back inside and get away from him, but a guy had a gun telling me to walk out. Meanwhile, it was afterwards when he had a knife behind his back is when they went to get the gun.

Right. So he just flipped his time frame around here. So he said that after that point, he couldn't go in, and he had no other choice. So he said, Jeff says that he jumped at Greg Brown. He said, but he didn't know he had a knife in his hand when he hit the victim now how do you not how do you forget that he went from jim yeah listen jim jim i tried to kill him i tried to kill the motherfucker punching him in the chest i tried to kill the motherfucker i cut him twice i think i cut him twice too i forgot from the time i had a

knife in my hand i forgot from that time to the time it made contact with this man's chest would you look at that i got a knife man i my memory is not to be counted on for shit i wouldn't believe anything he said where'd you wake up this morning wait don't even bother could be anywhere i've forgotten pray tell jim uh so he says that uh he says that brown though at the time he had a knife so now he's claiming that i didn't know i had a knife when i stabbed him but i know that he had a knife uh even though no one else saw that he had a knife he went out to have a fair fight right and uh it's a fair fight we was legal we was legal uh but instead uh yeah he ends up getting uh stabbed by this guy who apparently did not want to have a fair fight so the verdict here uh jeff is like i said this is the very tip of this iceberg uh jeff is found

guilty of first degree murder in oklahoma in oklah. During sentencing, that's not too kind either to him. You, sir, may fuck off. He is sentenced to death. Holy shit. Usually that's the end of the story. Or at least it's like, well, there's an appeal and stuff like that. But that's the end of the outer world story. It's all prison and court now.

Nope, not this one. What the shit? He got death and there's more oh there's a lot more okay there's a fuckload more so he's sentenced to death right in oklahoma which is usually pretty that's swift you're set yeah you're it's uh out the out the back door yeah i think it's there uh the trial court here during this whole thing they issued instructions on both murder in the first and murder in lesser degrees, manslaughter and all that.

Manslaughter in the first degree was one of them. So on appeal, Jeff here raises three assignments of error. The first one, this is interesting here. He asserts that the trial court committed an error by commenting on the credibility of three key state witnesses each of the witnesses which were gordon aiken the dayton and the donna favier had previously testified that the gun that dayton had pointed at uh at jeff was unloaded and later in the trial they all they all ended up admitting that the gun was loaded which i don't know what difference that makes

in the fact that... He doesn't know either way. You know what I mean? It doesn't matter. He stabbed a guy. Right. So after the fact, I don't know what the difference is.

She wasn't shot. Yeah. Well, they're trying to say that these three are liars and their eyewitness testimony can't be counted on because they lied about the loading of a gun. So maybe they lied about who had a knife and who stabbed who and what. So that's what they're trying to say, basically, which is kind of fair. I mean, it's you and you impeach their credibility when they all have to go on the stand and go, yeah, I lied earlier on the stand.

Yeah, it's tough to go. Well, then what else did you lie about? You know, so they ended up doing that also. you lie about you know so uh they ended up doing that uh uh also and i guess the the trial court uh in their opinion like said out loud that they still found them test of uh you know still found them to be credible and trustworthy so it was one of those things uh it wasn't good here the trial judged according to this appeal here made several extemporaneous comments before the jury, leaving no doubt to his opinion of the witness's credibility. His final remarks, he said, they say the essence of his opinion can be embodied here. After hearing you three young people testify, I believe I can see why you misstated the truth.

But the law is to be respected, not feared. The law is on your side. I think you've learned that here today. So he sat them down like they were kids who stole a piece of candy and then felt really bad about it at age nine. And they were like, look, I think you learned that stealing is wrong. So never mind. The law is on your side.

So the law is on your side. So I'm going to say whatever you testified to besides that was probably true. Sounds legal to me. Which doesn't, that seems a little bit. That's suspect as fuck, man. You can't say that in front of the jury you can't give your opinion on this so yeah uh no i guess there was also uh similar remarks made there but that was the big one uh so uh the trial court also stated quote the truth

must prevail and be brought out i granted immunity from prosecution for perjury uh they said the uh to the to these people uh for some reason because of this. It's very interesting, though. They said the admitted perjury was a collateral issue. The balance of their testimony was the state's proof of external circumstances. So like we just said, they proved that they're liars here. They said also the prosecutor's comment in summation. They said also the the prosecutor's comment in summation.

Also, they said they said he said, quote, it needs to be shown to Mr. Landgren, Mr. Landgren, that the people of this country of this county will not condone homicide, even if it's of a even if it's convicted criminal drug users, because the guy had been arrested for drugs. Greg, Greg Brown. So who cares? So basically, they're they're they're saying that it was it was it was a little shady and he didn't get a fair trial out of this. And accordingly, it says, based on the above noted errors, we reverse and remand for a new trial. So he ends up getting his death sentence vacated. Holy shit. In Oklahoma.

Yeah. Based on these comments by the prosecutor and the judge. And it has to be very egregious there to turn it around. He is the luckiest human being on the planet. Absolutely. There was a dissenting opinion on this, and this dissenting opinion was a Judge Busse, and this Judge Busse says, quote, the evidence discloses that the appellant struck and killed the victim with a knife which he

had concealed behind his back, fled the scene, admitted to Alvin Burns that he had, quote, wasted a guy, and told the Washington County undersheriff that he tried to kill the victim. No, he didn a guy and told the washington county undersheriff that he tried to kill the victim the judge didn't no he killed the undersheriff he tried to kill a motherfucker not of not the victim the judgment and sentence which is the minimum sentence authorized by the law for this offense should not be reversed and remanded because of the unfortunate remarks of the judge and the unobjected to comments by the prosecutor

but the conviction is overturned and on appeal he enters a plea agreement this time, smartly, to second-degree murder and receives 20 years in prison. So he went from life or death, I was going to say life and death, to 20 years, which is not too fucking shabby. After how long was he in? He was in the... He probably got time served already, too. Oh, no, he was time served.

Oh, yeah, he's definitely got time served. This is, you know, three years for the whole appeal process. Incredible. You know, basically, he's gotten 17 years now. So, good behavior. Great deal. Not a bad deal, yeah. Thank his lawyer.

Yeah. While he's in prison, he meets a fellow inmate at this point named Tommy Owens. And they start hanging out and bullshitting and talking. They fall in love. And they fall in love. That's what this is, Jimmy. You nailed it. How did you... See, now you ruined the whole story. this point named tommy owens and they start hanging out and bullshitting and talking and they fall in love that's that's what this is jimmy you nailed it how did you see now you ruined the whole story thanks you know what never mind show's over jimmy ruined the story it was a love story now that blossoms between these two men in prison and uh the rest of it

was just they both get out they open a small flower shop together where they they they also concentrate on uh bonsai trees. They're very good at trimming and that sort of thing. I saw a real Lady and the Tramp moment where they sucked ramen noodles together. Yeah, they sucked the ramen noodle together in their cell. Get a good kiss. That's nice. In their cell, it's very nice.

They split a Kit Kat together from the commissary. It's good stuff. Jesus Christ. Unroll the honey bun together. It's what they do they unroll it lengthwise and then they each get half that's because you don't want to cut it in half it'll fall apart you gotta eat eat to my half well that's meet me in the middle i'll meet you in the middle or shove half up your ass and then never mind so and i'll eat it out of there yeah

so uh this these two are hanging out owens tells jeff that jeff looks just like a man that owens knew years earlier yeah because you look just like this guy that i knew in prison yeah uh years early it's so super weird you look just fucking like this guy so what's the name of this guy uh daryl wayne hill this guy was in prison with you look just fucking like him it's super weird right so uh owens apparently had also been a family friend and a neighbor of theirs and they were also prison time together so he knew he knew daryl hill very well he said you look just fucking like this guy fucking chances yeah so uh they start putting together places and stuff like that and so jeff uh jeff apparently when he was

growing up in his home uh he knew he was adopted they always told him he was adopted he found documents in a strong box about his adoption and the only thing on his about his past was his birth last name which was hill yeah so he remembered that from the time he was a kid and then this guy says you look just like this guy daryl wayne hill and this guy goes motherfucker motherfucker, is that me? Is that my father? That was a real Joe Dirt moment. He had a huge Joe.

This guy is Joe Dirt. And what should have really happened to Joe Dirt? So this Owens says that Jeff must have been the boy, because he says that Hill guy says that he put a kid up for adoption. His wife put a kid up for adoption. You must be that kid, because it lines up time-wise with the years he said this all happened this is some crazy fucking prison sherlock holmes in here i don't know what is going on prison family reunion yeah so uh this guy finally at this point they're separated by

1500 miles his dad is on death row in arkansas we'll talk about that after several prison terms uh daryl his father murdered a state game warden in arkansas during a during a gas station robbery so the sleaziest fucking thing you can do i assume the game warden wasn't working no i assume he wasn't coffee keeping the wildlife away from the from the soda section in the back i assume he was uh just getting a drink yeah getting some coffee or something uh yeah he was sentenced back i assume he was uh just getting a drink yeah getting some coffee or something uh yeah he was sentenced to death and he was on death row so at this point so now they're both in prison and uh they start a correspondence what and they start talking i'm sorry jeff if there's one influence this guy does not fucking need in his life he had two good

influences with his you know adopted parents and he turned out like shit imagine if this fucking asshole was involved he'd been pulling off you know we were knocking over gas stations when he was in the third grade he'd have murdered that cop too and his dad would have been shot it would have been yeah so uh so that's crazy daryl hill the father said about the whole thing quote it don't take anyone too smart to look at three generations of outlaws and see that there's a link of some kind, that there's a pattern. Good thing you're not.

Well, yeah, that's going to say that hillbilly deducing and all. I think he might be right, possibly here. Now, in 1986, this whole thing is the trading places episode is what it is, because that was the big experiment. Is it nurture or nature and i think we're going to get the answer here in this episode here finally that mortimer and randolph did not get don amici didn't leave live long enough to know he had no idea sorry don amici so uh in 1986 now uh jeff is in obviously, for murder for 20 years and in Oklahoma prison.

And his father is in on Arkansas death row. Landgren, Landgren gets Jeff gets in an argument with another inmate and stabs him repeatedly, stabs him repeatedly. We'll find out the other inmates fate at the end a little while here, but stabs him repeatedly and is convicted of assault and battery with a deadly weapon. He's not supposed to have one. Obviously, in jail for christ's sake so 1989 comes around now he is a convicted murderer who got off death row lucky for him but still a convicted second degree murderer and then stabbed the fuck out of somebody in jail so clearly rules aren't his thing i don't think i think stabbing's against the rules in jail. He's good at it. He is good at it.

He's damn good at it. Well, he didn't kill the second guy, so he's regressing, which is sad. Well, he's getting older. Maybe he didn't try to kill the motherfucker. I hear 21 is like your peak stabbing year. I feel like after that, you're going to fall off. You just don't have the same dexterity. Your hand-eye coordination's off a little bit.

Well, it certainly takes fewer times of cutting somebody to kill them in your youth because you repeatedly stabbed this guy. Well. Lived to tell about it. Two stabs to Greg Brown killed him. This guy, 14 stabs. Holy shit. And he lived.

Uh-huh. So that tells you there. Also, probably better knives outside of prison is the other thing. Better equipment. It's kind of like golf. It's like, yeah, they're bigger, stronger, but I mean, the drivers are different. Come on. You know, what are we talking about here here i don't own a big bertha the the what

the bats now are harder than they used to be in baseball they are so that's what's gonna happen so uh yeah he's convicted of that now 1989 like we said he's convicted of he's a bad fucking guy he's a bad seed he's turned into a bad guy uh he is clearly willing to stab someone at the drop of a hat whether they whether it be a prison inmate or his future godson's father it doesn't matter to him but despite this for some reason jeff is put on a minimum security work crew perfect why the fuck they would do that i have no idea this guy should be with a hannibal lecter mask if anybody should be it's this guy so minimum security work crew outside of prison outside of prison holy shit at this point he meets a woman in a park while he's doing the work crew shit meets a woman

sweet talk sir you gotta have game you really do To be literally on a prison work detail and pick a woman up. You got to have some fucking game. See these bracelets on my wrist? You see these, baby? Yeah, you got to. I can get you a pair. I'll teach you how to sweep like this. Yeah, that's all right.

Like, what the fuck, man? He's raking leaves in a park and picks up the girl having a picnic. Picks up a woman. Not only that, this sets up future liaisons where when they would do the work detail, he'd sneak away to go have sex with this woman what so he found an outside so he would sneak off the work detail and go to this lady's house to have sex with her he'd go to wow that's how that's how minimally supervised they were zero why he was such a trusted member of this i don't understand considering

like i said he seems dangerous to me i don't understand it but he's having sex with this woman at will whenever he feels like unbelievable which is insane so november 11th 1989 uh he's at the on the minimum security work detail when he decides well why the fuck do i keep going back what if i just leave they don't notice i can just go and then stay here i'm just gone so. So he says, fuck it. And he leaves. Yeah. Shrugs his shoulders and goes, all right.

And just much better over there. That's it. Takes off, escapes from prison and heads for Arizona. Oh, no. Of all places. Oh, no. He's heading for Yuma, Arizona, which is never a destination. Trust me.

That's a place you pass through and you go, fuck, we're only at Yuma. is never a destination trust me it's that's a place you pass through and you go fuck we're only at yuma no matter what direction you're going from phoenix to san diego at some point in both rides you go we're only at yuma god damn it fuck and going to san diego faster we're not even in california yet jesus florida jesus get through this shithole town 20 to 30 minutes through this shit nightmare that place sucks oh you was 20 to 30 minutes through this shit. It's a nightmare. That place sucks. Oh, Yuma's the worst. It's a real horrible town. It's a dust pit of a shithole. It's the worst. It is bad stuff. It's maybe the worst city in America.

I don't know. Kingman exists also. We're talking about Arizona cities. Kingman at least is near the Colorado at the beautiful part. The Colorado runs next to Yuma at the gross part. But there's states worse than this with way worse places. So how much time have you spent in Mississippi?

That's a good point. You know what I mean? Come on. Sorry, Mississippi. You know you're last in everything. Yuma's where everything going down the Colorado River ends up. That's disgusting. It's the whole thing's disgusting.

That's gross. Well, he hopes, you know what ended up there? Maybe floated down the Colorado River was his birth mother. So he's hoping to find Virginia, who he hears is in Yuma. So poor Virginia's had a rough life. She was a drug-addicted single mother in Oklahoma, and now she's just living in Yuma. She could be the richest woman in Yuma. She's in Yuma.

Collecting clowns or some shit. Something. Doesn't matter. Hummel figurines of clowns. Hummel clown collection nobody wants that so he ends up though uh stopping in phoenix and ends up in phoenix for a while okay so uh lucky lucky uh everybody here yeah uh december 13th 1989 okay uh he meets a man in phoenix uh a charl or chester dean dryer is his name he's 42 years old uh he works in a health club

and then part-time at a bar uh he's a very gay man yeah um for whatever that's worth but it's important in this story it's not just like oh and by the way he's a gay guy it's important because he's trying to pick up jeff okay is the thing uh he meets he's known all his friends say he's known to pick up dudes and take them home. He's just, he's out looking, he's a fucking single guy. Rolling for cock. Hey, good for you. It happens.

Yeah, he's good for you, dude. So he's out and he finds, he meets Jeff, a young guy just off the fucking bus from Oklahoma. And Jeff has like, he's got an accent. He's got an Oklahoma twang to him. Tight jeans. And I feel like, yeah, i feel like yeah this was like this was a different yeah he could see pulsating dick through pants at a burger king too with all that cheese around and the the seeded buns he couldn't help himself uh rubbing the seam and all that

just everything yeah he knows where the weld is so he meets jeff at a burger king and uh ends up i guess they end up going home together and uh according to a friend of dean's here uh chester dean a guy named michael who is in quotes in the court documents so i assume it's not his real name got it uh michael uh he said that uh dean had he was he was very promisc. He said he was always picking up people and he was frequently trying to pick up men. Love the cock. Well, hey, what the fuck, right? If you love the cock, go get it.

Go get all that cock you want. I don't care. So he would pick up men by flashing wads of money. That was the way he would do it. He was 42. He liked the younger guys and he would do it with money. So he'd pick up kind of these wayward,

you pick up some kid who just came off the bus from Oklahoma in a Burger King, you flash a little cash and you think you know it makes sense you know men do that with women too yeah it's not different i was just gonna say it's not any different it's not exclusive to homosexuality no no no no so uh he i guess uh dean here uh here i'm sorry dryers is i keep calling him dean's middle name dryers his last name dryer uh tells michael that uh uh that uh uh that he'd recently met a guy named jeff and who he wanted to have sex with yeah uh he said that he gave him a physical description that is dead on ringer to jeff lander and so it's it's one of those things here. Uh, he said that,

uh, um, that, uh, dryer here, uh, Chester called his friends to tell them that he was, he called a couple of different friends to tell them that he was going to have sex with a man named Jeff.

He was very excited about this. Jeff thing. He's telling everybody he was describing him and he was excited. He was, it was his gossip, whatever. Uh, this Michael guy received three phone calls from Chester on December 13th, 1989.

Three different ones. The first one, Chester told Michael that he had picked up a guy named Jeff at Burger King, and this is his name. He looks like this, and this is going to be awesome. Yeah. I think that's what he was going with. Same thing that straight dudes do. That's what I mean.

He's just telling his buddies. He's like, oh, it's fucking hot, right? So at that point, he said they were at the apartment drinking beer at that point. With Jeff? With Jeff. Okay. When he called him, he said, I picked up Jeff. He came over here.

We're drinking beer at my apartment. And he said, asking Michael, Chester's asking Michael when he's going to come over, quote, to party. Yeah. So. Come over and see me. Come over. And yeah, I don't know what the what the floor show is or if it's just a drink or what.

I don't know. About 15 minutes later, Michael receives a second call from Chester telling this is a weird call to get 15 minutes. Like we're drinking beer. You're coming over to party. I don't know. Maybe. I don't know. 15 minutes later, he calls and he's like michael yeah it's chester again uh guess i'm having sex with jeff right now we're right in the fucking middle of it he called him during sex he's like wow this is very weird uh he said he could hear it remember i told you i was trying to fuck jeff i'm fucking yeah he's like he's like, by the way, fucking Jeff now.

There was no second part. That part I've never done. It wasn't, are you going to return my Tupperware? It wasn't, are you still coming over? It was just that. Just that. You know, you see that documentary on tonight? None of that shit.

It was just, how you doing? Hey, Mike, what's up, brother? Yeah, I'm fucking Jeff now. I got to go. I'm fucking Jeff. Got a great weld. All right, peace. And he hangs up the phone.

His weld is so straight. Get over here. His weld is super straight. No, not even, don't come over yet. No, don't come over. Wait about. Whenever you're ready. Okay, now come over. Jesus Christ.

Don't come over yet. Jeff's turn. Wait. Hold on. We're switching. So about 15 minutes later, I don't know if Jeff got a turn or not, 15 minutes later, Chester calls Michael back and asks, then Jeff must have been good. He calls Michael back and says, can you get Jeff a job?

So he went from a guy I just met at Burger King to I'm fucking this guy. We should really get this guy employed and set up on his own so i could do this more you gotta get him on his feet this jeff is he's something else let me tell you something so ah this is amazing this is crazy shit so i have never had that kind of a relationship with somebody that fast. Where you meet them, fuck them. 30 minutes later, you fuck them. 30 minutes. No, 15.

You're asking around if someone can get this person a job. In a 30-minute window, I go from stranger to fuck them to- Can I just say- I want to help you. This Chester's a nice guy. He is. He's a fucking good guy. He's a great dude.

If I was a young gay dude, this would be the guy I would be after. I'm like, this guy's great. He'll take you home. He gives you beer. He fucks you and he gets you a job. This is fantastic. Good God. He's like a-

I'm a drifting young gay man. This is my guy. He's a fairy godfather. He's amazing. That's in more ways than one. So, he's sorry. That's our one gay joke. We're not going to make any more.

Leave me alone about it. Sorry. Fuck off. Jesus Christ. If we can do all this without making any gay jokes, we're pretty goddamn good. That's incredible. I'm just kidding. So anyway, Jeff ends up getting on the phone.

He talks to Michael about this employment. So I mean, they're moving. It's not only just, hey, can you look for me? Maybe check next week. He's like, I'll put him on the phone right now. Okay. What do you do? And they're like, I don't know if Jeff or michael runs an agency or something or what but uh he asked if uh the phone really good ass sex who's

this yeah this is uh hey how you doing got semen on my stomach how are you semen's on the small on my back good to see you michael jobs so he's shouting on my prison let's chat hey how's it going hope it's healed that That's going to sting. So Jeff talks to him and he also Jeff also asked Michael if he's going to come over. Are you coming over to hang out? Fucking dudes asking if you're coming, man. What's up? Great at this.

I'm fucking getting jobs. This is fantastic. Michael said he's not coming over. He's like, I guess it's parties over at that point. During one of these conversations, Chester indicated that michael that he had just got paid that day so that's why he's flashing around his money because he just got a paycheck uh so um some time goes by here uh december 14th uh chester fails to show up for work at the health club and it's called nobody he doesn't answer his phone uh so that's not normal for him he's very studious when it comes to work and shit like that uh so that's a that's a red

flag so on friday of that week a co-worker and two other people at the co-worker knows uh go over to chester's apartment to check on him and they go in and find him and he's dead they find him dead in his room uh he's fully clothed face down on the bed with a pool of blood all around his head and an electrical cord wrapped around his neck that's over dangling there uh he had facial lacerations and puncture wounds all over his body all over the place there was a half-eaten sandwich and a skull and a small screwdriver next to the sandwich. So the screwdriver, they assume, is what the puncture wounds came from. So somebody was eating a sandwich and stabbing this guy.

Doing both at the same time. Repeatedly. Or very close together, enough to where they'd put the two items down next to each other. Also, a deck of pornographic playing cards were strewn, like, laid across the bed, and the Ace of Hearts was propped up on Chester's back. What is that? So who knows what was going on on the Ace of Hearts? Good grief. Something gross, I assume.

But, yeah, so that's propped up there. Also, blood smears were found in the kitchen and bathroom, and partial bloody shoe prints were on the tile floor. So there's a lot of stuff here to unpack here. Cause of death turns out to be ligature strangulation. Not a surprise from the playing cards, or from the electrical cord. The medical people here indicate that Chester was probably strangled after being rendered unconscious

from blows to the head with a blunt instrument. So he was beaten, strangled, and punctured. And stabbed. Stabbed a lot. Oh, boy. And had half of his sandwich eaten also. Probably Burger King. Probably a whopper.

What a waste of a whopper. That's a waste of a whopper. God damn it. Well, maybe they didn't even get to eat the burger. They had to work up an appetite after the Burger King. So this is interesting here. His acquaintances always say his apartment was super neat, always neat, tidy, orderly.

But when they found the body, the apartment was in complete disarray. Drawers and closets were open. Clothes and newspapers strewn about the floor. The remnants of a Christmas present was open and empty at the foot of the bed. And the kitchen area where there was two plates, two forks and a bread wrapper. Also lunch meat, cheese wrappers and an open jar of spoiled mayonnaise, which is the grossest thing in this apartment, including the corpse.

I'm sorry. Fuck. Never mind the corpse. Who the fuck has spoiled mayonnaise in their house? Was it? It was two days sitting on a counter. Okay. That's why it was spoiled. I don't know if it was spoiled to begin with they didn't

get the forensic team on the mayonnaise they didn't get the half-life of the mayonnaise in there unfortunately they were more concentrating on the corpse yeah so uh yeah so there's two forks like i said they basically set up for two people two people to eat yeah and uh also like i said the deck of pornographic playing cards. A five pound bag of sugar was spilled on the floor, which is odd. And there was a clear impression of a sole of a sneaker in the sugar. In the sugar. So the sugar had half a bloody footprint and then the sugar has a clean.

Got it. I mean, and in sugar, too. It's like a snow thing. It's going to look perfect. You can tell the model of the shoe by 10 feet away. So the apartment had been ransacked, and nothing seemed to be missing, even the paycheck or any of the paycheck that he would have gotten, like the cash from it, were located. They were not located. They were the only things that they couldn't find.

Other than that, nothing else seemed to be missing. Just money. Yeah, the place was trashed. This guy even went into the sugar. So he's like a drug guy who said, where would I hide shit? The sugar. Or, you know, where would cops look for stashes? He even opened a Christmas gift.

Maybe there's cash in here. You never know. Yeah, it was probably a Christmas gift. Yeah, Jesus Christ, because this is before. This was pre-gift cards. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was just cash in an envelope like your uncle so uh uh so yeah this ends up happening now time goes by because they only know that he was with a guy named jeff that's all anybody knows about it uh

days later jeff landrigan and another man are seen by police stealing a car and then they follow that car and they watch them try to break into an abandoned house in phoenix in phoenix so jeff and his friend are arrested for this and he's taken in and uh they start to put two and two together if he's connected to this guy uh to chester so when he's first questioned he denies everybody goes i have no idea who you're talking about never met the guy i don't know shit about it. Never been in his apartment. Don't know shit. Problem is, when he's arrested, he is wearing a shirt that belonged to Chester.

That's a bad move. That's not good. Why would he do that? He just stole some shit to wear. He didn't have anything. He came here. He broke out of prison. He escaped from prison and came here.

So, I mean, he doesn't, not like he's got a suitcase or the wardrobe. He took some shit on the way out. That shirt looks like, is that his face? That's his face his face that's his face are those your initials right i know that's his shirt because that's his fucking face he's on the but says chester on the above the tit that's his bowling team i think you done stole his bowling shirt so uh he's wearing a shirt that belonged to chester which is which is not great. So Jeff goes, okay, fine. Yeah, you got me. I knew the guy.

Didn't kill him, though. I mean, obviously. Totally fucked him. I'm a good guy. Didn't fuck him either. That's the other thing. Didn't fuck him, even though he called people in the middle of it saying he was fucking him.

He says that, I was hanging out with Chester. He said he could get me a job. Met me at Burger King. Said he could get me a job. I said, I just got here. Said, get me a job, all that stuff. He said, but we got job i said i just got here to get me a job all that stuff he said but we got back to his apartment he's giving me beer i thought that was cool then chester started making sexual advances at me and you know i don't play that shit that's what he's saying he said so uh i beat the shit out of him for that i fucked him up good and then i just left somebody else must have came and killed him

afterwards i don't know nothing about that but he tried to fuck me and I whooped his ass and just took off and was like, take that, Chester. Bad story. And I'm out. So, no, they don't. Why you got that shirt, man? Shocking. They don't buy that.

Yeah. Why you got that shirt? Well, he gave me a shirt on the way out and, you know, I beat him up and then I got his blood on my shirt and I said, now you owe me a shirt, motherfucker. And then he gave me this one. Totally legit. So that's his story. Problem is, seven fingerprints taken from the scene match him.

The impression in the sugar matches his sneaker perfectly. And also, even right down to there's a small cut in the sole of the sneaker that's even in the sugar. So it's not even that size and model. It is that fucking sure. That's how good the sugar is. With a signature that size and model it is that fucking that's how good the sugar with a signature yeah it's like snow it's perfect uh so uh also uh during this whole thing uh his ex-girlfriend jeff's ex-girlfriend says that she had three telephone conversations with him in december of 1989 during one of those conversations jeff told her that he was quote getting along in phoenix by

robbing so he was that's that's he was getting i'm getting by robin so he was just that's his plan that was to steal shit gonna steal shit and get it get by like that uh he had i guess placed the last call to her from jail around christmas and in that call he said that he quote killed a guy with his hands about a week before. So he admitted to her on the phone from jail that he did this, which is, again, not terrific here. So he's not doing well. He's offered a deal. He's offered a fucking deal for second degree murder.

What? A deal. And I guess I think it's life in prison, but second degree murder and no trial and no death penalty because Arizona will fucking will fucking get you too uh he says i think i'm gonna go to trial i'm gonna take my chances i'm gonna roll the fucking dice i've done pretty well in court so far uh i got sentenced to the death penalty but then there's appeals so who knows we'll see here uh so uh he ends up going to trial uh he is completely uncooperative during trial yeah not just to the court to his lawyer to his own case totally uncooperative doesn't do shit the lawyer says things he refuses shit he yells at the lawyer for saying things in court just like i don't even bother with fuck that like he doesn't they'll tell the lawyer shit like that like he just barking out shit randomly you're

not a lawyer dummy you're ruining it he's not doing well he's not trying to win is the other thing he's just bickering with the lawyer the lawyer's trying to win and he's not yeah so it's it's fucking crazy and we'll talk about the sentencing exactly how crazy this whole thing is with him here now uh the the jury in this whole thing uh they find him guilty of theft second degree burglary and felony murder, which is a bad one, by having caused the victim's death, quote, in the course of an furtherance of the burglary. So that's how you get the death penalty in these states. In 89.

Especially then, yeah. So the jury also determined that he had, Jeff had been previously convicted in Oklahoma of not only second-degree murder, but also assault and battery with a deadly weapon and possession of marijuana for whatever that's worth. Nothing in this case. Also, at the time that he killed Chester, he was, I don't know, an escapee from fucking prison from being there for 20 fucking years for stabbing his friend to death. That's a damn good point. So there's a lot going on here.

His his his his his aggravating factors are really high like pretty amazing there's a lot that a guy can leave his work detail in a prison amazing to go fuck a girl and then decide to stay out like that's that that's your girlfriend for all intents and purposes right yeah but he left her oh yeah go find his mom went to another state go find mama wow i mean i guess it's smarter than hanging out a block away with the girl. I guess it's smart of her to let him go rather than stick around. That's the other thing. Don't go run with him. No, come back, please. Where am I ever going to find another one like you? Oh, I guess at the park where I found you. There's a hundred more guys just like you. Never mind. So. So during sentencing, his lawyer, this Farrell guy is his last name.

He spoke briefly with two of Jeff's family members, his ex-wife and his birth mother. He talks to actually also. I don't know where his adoptive parents have just they did like a Vegas casino dealer change thing. Hands up. I'm gone. Not me. I'm out. I'm not the one.

Not my fault so uh at the hearing here uh this farrell advised the court that he expected that jeff's ex-wife uh to verify his history of substance abuse and state that he had been a uh a loving caring husband and he said he wanted her to explain the circumstances of one of langren's's prior convictions. I guess the stabbing. She's going to try to smooth that a little bit for him. So it doesn't sound so bad if you stabbed your best friend to death in front of your infant son, which sounds bad. I'm not going to lie to you. This lawyer also proffered that Langeren's birth mother would testify about her having drug and alcohol use during the pregnancy

and that after developing all this testimony, he was hoping to have a recess to talk to some experts about the effect of these drugs on the fetus at that point, he says. But he said that he hadn't ascertained, I guess you will find out, but he hadn't ascertained everything about his history because he just found this little guy's birth mother. It's a process sure uh so anyway uh jeff does says he doesn't want either of them to testify none he says i don't want them fucking mitigating for me fuck that uh which is insane yeah you get two women up there that are willing to say that you're a good person that are willing to say you're a good person and then the mother saying i was a terrible mother and and I took fucking second all every day while I was pregnant.

So that might have affected this thing just to try to get him life in prison. Yeah. So the lawyer says, and this is these quotes are amazing. This next few minutes here, he says, quote, Your Honor, at this time, I have two witnesses that I wish to testify before the court. And I brought one from out of state that it's my client's ex-wife, Miss Sandy Landrigan. The second witness is my client's natural mother, Ms. Virginia Gibson. I believe both of these people have some important evidence that I believe the court should take into mitigation concerning my client. However, Mr. Landrigan has made it clear to me, Jeffrey, the defendant, that he does

not wish anyone from his family to testify on his behalf today. I have talked with Sandra Landrigan, his ex-wife. I've talked to her a number of times with her and confirmed what I thought was important evidence that she should present for the court. I've also talked to Ms. Gibson, and her evidence, I think, is very important and it should be brought to the court's attention. Both of them, after talking with Jeff today, have agreed with their, in one case, son, another ex-husband, that they will not testify on his behalf.

So he's like, I wanted to present mitigating evidence, and he says no. with their in one case son, another ex-husband, that they will not testify on his behalf. Wow. So he's like, I wanted to present mitigating evidence. And he says, no. So the judge says, why not? This Judge Hendricks says, why not? And the lawyer says, quote, basically, it's my client's wishes, Your Honor. I told him that in order to effectively represent him, especially concerning the fact that the state is seeking the death penalty, any and all mitigating factors. I was under a duty to disclose those factors to this court

for consideration regarding the sentences. He is adamant he does not want any testimony from his family, specifically these two people that I have here, his mother under subpoena, as well as being flown in his ex-wife. I've advised him and I've advised again very strongly that I think it's very much against his interest to take that particular position. I've also advised both witnesses. I could have them sworn and ask them questions, but they are under an obligation to do what they feel is right, Your Honor. They're looking after Jeff's interest. I'm coming from the position that I have to bring a certain evidence before this court. I'm at a loss. I don't know what the court wishes to do. He's like, he won't help me defend him and he's up for the death penalty and he's talking uh

he's saying this is out of yeah he's literally i have mitigating circumstances and he won't he won't fucking he won't allow it so the judge goes well we got to do what we're here to do i mean we can't just sit around and stroke our dicks till he decides so i'm begging people yeah which is weird because she was a lady the judge so so we're pretty that's a good good statement sit there stroking her dick she can't do it uh she says at the sentencing hearing here now the trial judge finds two statutory aggravating circumstances that he's previously convicted of a felony involving the use of or threat of violence on another person and that he committed the offense in expectation of the receipt of anything of monetary value. So, you know, robbery.

The trial judge noted that the that the Chester's apartment had been ransacked and it appeared that the the murderer was looking for more shit to take. Basically, it's at this point they say say do you have anything to say for yourself and this is when the shit gets oh i can't wait when he talks this is a man that said i tried to kill that motherfucker i tried to kill it jim and we're giving him listen jim miss hand jim miss andrews i cannot wait to hear what he said okay well the way to use here the end of it he has like almost the last say and it's the craziest shit so stick around to the very end but uh uh the man uh the council here tries to characterize his previous second degree murderous self-defense so he's like he starts basically testifying for these people okay he's like i

don't know what else to do so he's like look the last thing i wanted her to say was the self-defense jeff interrupts and he says see also your honor there's a few things that he got wrong here and i'd like to clear them up so the judge says please do mr landry by all means this ought to be good and they must lit a cigarette up and fucking sat back everybody likes some brandy let's have a sit put her feet up on the desk and said fire away big guy he then says i could use some he then says quote when we left the trailer greg went out of the trailer first my wife was between us i pulled my knife out then i was the one who pushed her aside and stabbed him and jumped us jumped him and stabbed him he didn't grab me

i stabbed him so he hid he did like what macho man savage used to do when he was a bad guy hide behind elizabeth and then at the last minute kind of shove her out of the way and jump at somebody except with a fucking knife and in real life so that's he did wrestler villain shit and then he's bragging about it in court oh he doesn't give a fuck listen he goes on uh he and he then uh attempts to uh explain a little bit more and uh and so the the lawyer starts talking about the aggravated assault that he committed in prison for the whole thing. And the defense counsel said that his client, he goes, Jeff had been threatened by the person because the guy he was in jail for killing was friends with this other guy in jail. So this guy had threatened Jeff and said, I'm going to get back at you for killing his friend. And this is fucking amazing.

And so Jeff interrupted again and he goes i got something to say here he goes yeah something else was just said about the guy that uh that i was in prison with that wasn't uh that wasn't the guy's dad or friend or anything like that it was a guy i got in an argument with i stabbed him 14 times it was lucky he lived but two weeks later they found him hung in his cell he was dead It wasn't nothing like it was presented. He just doesn't give a fuck. By the way, that guy's dead, too. Yeah, he goes, no, that guy wasn't after me.

I got in an argument with him, didn't like him, stabbed the fuck out of him. Then he fucking died later, and I didn't care. So it wasn't nothing like self-defense like it was presented at the time. Unbelievable. Jesus Christ. So then the council tries to explain that he keeps trying. This poor guy is feral. He goes, well, he's also he held a legitimate job.

Always when he was out, he always had a legitimate job. He provided for his wife and his young son. And in the middle of this, Jeff goes, hold on. I got more to say. This is awesome. He then says, looks at his lawyer and goes, quote, if I wanted this to be heard, I'd have had my wife say it enough and shuts the fucking guy up. And the lawyer just shrugs his shoulders and he goes, I don't know what you want me to do here.

Hey, judge. Judge said, I'll just go in my L column. Can this be a no contest for me? Because this really shouldn't be an L. Like, this is messed up. Do I really have to count this? This is L. Like, this is messed up. Do I really have to count this? This is bullshit. Yeah, this would be like if the stadium toilets overflowed and we had to evacuate. Is that a loss for us?

I think it's a no contest. We just, so yeah. If nobody but LeBron shows up to the game, did the Lakers still get an L? Is that what it is? I don't know. That shouldn't be what it is. So the judge says, I'll take it from here. Thank you.

I'll figure out what the fuck's going on. This is just a circus at this point. She says, Mr. Landrigan, have you instructed your lawyer that you do not wish for him to bring any mitigating circumstances to my attention? He says, yeah. Okay. She says, do you know what that means? Are you stupid? Maybe.

Is that the problem? Are you not understanding what's happening? I love how she had to make sure, like, maybe he's really dumb. Do you get it? It's possible. Do you get it? He says, yeah. Okay.

Sir, explain the joke. You know, when somebody goes, do you get the joke? And they go, yeah, it's just not funny. All right, then explain what it was. Yeah. I don't think he knows what mitigating means. So maybe he doesn't know. So the judge says, Mr. Landrigan, are there mitigating circumstances I maybe he doesn't know so the judge says uh mr landrigan are there any

are there mitigating circumstances i should be aware of he says not as far as i'm concerned don't give a fuck basically what the shit is this problem then he says i'd like to say one more thing here just if there's any mitigators he says not as far as i'm concerned and one more thing he says yeah i'd like to point out a few things about how I feel about the way this uh about the way this shit this whole scenario went down and he says shit I think it's pretty fucking ridiculous this is offensive sorry this is what he said I think it's it's Jesus he said I think it's pretty fucking ridiculous to let this faggot be the one to determine my fate about how uh how they come across in his defense about I was supposedly fucking this dude.

This never happened. I think the whole thing stinks. If you want to give me the death penalty, just bring it on. I'm ready for it. End of story. So he said, shit, fuck, and faggot all in his fucking, and then said, go ahead and give me the death penalty. All in court.

So, sorry, I didn't mean to, you know, you had to, that was, you couldn't say the f word because it doesn't work i thought he was talking about perry yeah so or feral i mean feral yeah this this one over here yeah just to his lawyer no why did i no no he means the man he killed yeah uh so he means chester so perry feral is his yeah yeah no no no it is uh chester dean dyer is his name no i mean the victim no no i mean yeah no i know the lawyer yeah yeah perry farrell is his lawyer perry farrell is his lawyer all squirrely and shit cracked out looking this is great all whiny and shit singing about stealing just sing jane says and shut the fuck up i don't want to listen to this shit sing mountain song when you're. I'm tired of this shit, man.

Everything off ritual. Let's go. Boom. Not another one about the stealing song. Except Ben Cut Steel. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Yeah. She was like, okay, I guess I'll sentence you then.

Because he said, you want to give me the death penalty? Just bring it on. I'm ready for it. Great. So the judge says, no problem here. The judge found no statutory mitigating circumstances even with whatever uh as for non-statutory uh mitigating circumstances she did identify lack of uh you know genetic whatever the fuck uh absence of

premeditation also she said this seemed to be a uh spur of the moment but i don't think it was i think he saw a lot of money and was like i'm gonna go take that guy's money however the fuck i can right whatever way it's possible you know if i have to stab him i'll stab him he's done it before she did say that the mitigating factors did do not weigh the out uh outweigh the aggravating factors you sir may fuck off he is sentenced to an uh to a term of 20 years on the burglary, six months in county jail for theft, and death penalty for murder. So his ass is gone. That is the death penalty. And that was in 89.

That is in 89. 90 is when he's officially sentenced to the death penalty. He appeals, obviously. There's an automatic appeal. Number one, and I'll go through them real quick here. Burglary, he says uh uh this is weird here he says that uh there ends up being there is evidence that the burglary basically they said that uh the fact that the victim was found on his bed fully clothed next

to a half-eaten sandwich suggests he was killed before the apartment was ransacked any other conclusion would require an inference that the victim entered his apartment found it trashed then calmly made himself a sandwich and sat down on the bed to eat it which makes sense as the trial judge noted a ransacked apartment indicates that the culprit was probably looking for things of value the evidence clearly placed the defendant who admitted getting along by quote robbing and who was wearing one of the victim's shirt when arrested in the ransacking of the apartment so he was saying that the burglary thing didn't match up to him, but it fucking does. All that does. Felony murder.

They said it's for the jury to decide whether he committed or attempted to commit burglary in the second degree, and in the course of an furtherance of that crime caused the victim's death. They said, as noted above, the record contained substantial evidence to support the burglary conviction. Additionally, he admitted to his ex-girlfriend that he killed a man about a week before December 23rd, and the blood on his shoe also matched that on the victim's shirt. So blood's matching, too.

He's there. He's got blood matches, shoe prints, fingerprints all over the place. He was there after the place was trashed. So probably did it, I would say. Now, also the instruction on the lesser degrees of homicide. He argues, citing a case that the trial judge's failure to instruct the jury on lesser degrees of homicide or manslaughter deprived him of a fair trial by forcing the jury to convict him of first degree murder or set him free which is why they did that because they're like he definitely killed the guy

they're not going to set him free they'll fucking get him on this that's why he should have taken second degree as a fucking plea yeah that was what they offered him that for so whatever so he also failed uh to request any lesser homicide instruction at trial, but he contends that failure to instruct was a failure of his attorney, obviously. He also argues the Eighth Amendment. He says the defendant argues that the Arizona's death penalty scheme, taken as a whole, violates the Eighth Amendment by failing to sufficiently channel the sentencer's discretion, which is because there's a limited amount of

leeway with what you can sentence somebody he says uh the defendant's suggestion that of arizona's aggravating circumstances are too broad to be meaningful without substance and they go that's fucking good enough basically and to reiterate again neither of us are real thrilled with the death penalty we're always like you because they find, it's not so much of like, you know, the killing people, it's the fact that I'm not positive

it's the right people all the time and that shit disturbs me. We got a lot, we didn't get all of them. That's the problem. That's the thing. And when it's final like that,

maybe you'll be sure. Yeah, there's no way to fix that. You can't let him out and give him a big settlement afterwards. He's fucking dead. Sorry we killed you. Give his mom, thanks a lot, money g also aggravating and mitigating

circumstances uh he says that uh uh basically the defendant claims that the record does not support a finding that the murder was committed with the expectation of receipt of anything of value uh they said that that was probably the motivation, so yes, it was. Eat dicks there. Also, death sentence, he argues that imposing the death sentence was unwarranted because the trial judge found the crime, quote,

not out of the ordinary when considering first-degree murders. The judge also said that, she said, quote, Mr. Landrigan appears to be somewhat of an exceptional human being. It appears that Mr. Landrigan is a person who has no scruples and no regard for human life and human beings

and the right to live and enjoy life to the best of their ability, whatever their chosen lifestyle may be. Mr. Landrigan appears to be an amoral person. Yeah. Which is not what you want the appeals court to say about you. Then they say, this is amazing. The best we can say for the defendant they're looking for positives the best we can say is that he was forthright his comments demonstrate

a lack of remorse that unfavorably distinguishes him from other defendants and supports the imposition of this severe penalty like he's honest about it but he doesn't seem real sorry so he's kind of a piece of shit he knows it he finally argues that this is the most ballsy one of all here. He argues that for ineffective assistance of counsel, he says that his counsel deprived him of effective assistance by instructing the probation officer, some probation officer, not to interview him, not to interview Jeff in preparation for the aggravating and mitigation hearing. preparation for the aggravating and mitigation hearing now he doesn't mention in this that the guy tried with his hair on fire to present mitigating factors and he repeatedly not only told him no he then said the opposite in his own words to the fucking judge he literally said if you want to give me the death penalty bring it on i'm ready for it that's not a fucking that's not mitigation uh yeah uh this is fucking crazy.

They said counsel is not deficient for failing to find mitigating evidence. If after a reasonable investigation, nothing has put the council on notice of the existence of that evidence. Yeah, they said that he's claiming Landrigan alleges his birth mother sent a letter to Farrell in April of 1990, informing Farrell of a lot of these mitigating circumstances that he didn't bring up, including Landrigan began drinking at an early age because his adoptive mother was an alcoholic and would walk around nude in front of him. The adopted mom was showing her tits? He says a mitigating factor for murder is that he began drinking at an early age because his adoptive

mother was an alcoholic that's a reason and and would walk around nude in front of him which i don't know why that would make you drink as a child that's what i don't get i don't know how oh titties give me that drink i don't know i'm just shocked that uh i don't know i mean it's we don't even know if it's true it's just hearsay it's just what he says now but it's a weird thing to claim that's a weird thing super weird thing it's even weirder to do if maybe that's why they don't want anything to do with them maybe they're going to tell the court that i always walk around with my tits out maybe they didn't want to be asked about that would be awkward in court i would say also that landrigan's father was on death row in arkansas and the uh uh blood link to daryl and i are what messed up his whole life is what his dad

said in this letter uh and that uh jeff needs help mentally like his father did the letter said also and uh also that farrell didn't contact his birth father to secure a detailed mental health evaluation i think he probably thought it would look worse if his father's on fucking death row too he'd be like this doesn't look good for my guy the other part is what do you mean contact his father for like does he want is he saying take a mental professional to visit him? Yeah. Okay.

All right. Because I'm saying if his dad's saying, call me and I'll give him a straight up mental evaluation. No, he's going to of himself. What's his records? What's his father's records? So what might genetically he be fucked up about here? Jesus Christ, man.

This is ridiculous. He claims that he did minimal investigation to the lawyer, that he could have uncovered his tortured family history, his birth parents, obviously, that whole thing, his biological father's a violent man, his mother abandoned him when he was six months old, leaving him in a nursery and never

returning. He was later adopted. His mother was an alcoholic, would consume a fifth of vodka or more in a day until she passed out. She would frequently slap him and once even hit him with a frying pan. You shouldn't roll up in a carpet first, to be honest with you. He said his childhood was difficult. He exhibited

abandonment and attachment problems, had difficulty sleeping, had violent temper tantrums at a very early age, had a serious drug and alcohol problem while very young and even overdosed in class in eighth or ninth grade. At the time he committed the murder in Arizona, he said he had used amphetamines for 42 straight days. That is some biblical shit.

That's amazing. He was on the lam that and slept about only 14 of those days. So he was on a month and a half meth bender with no sleep which is a terrible place to be i would say and your judgment is not right and he's banging and then you might you know kill and rob people in that deal here now uh uh the court found that uh that jeff instructed his attorney not to present any evidence at the sentencing hearing they said so it is difficult to comprehend how he can claim counsel should have presented the other evidence at the hearing he wouldn't let him present anything.

Noting that Jeff's contention that he, quote, would have cooperated had other mitigating evidence been presented, the court concluded that his statements at sentencing belie his newfound sense of cooperation. Him saying, fuck this guy, I stabbed him, he called the whole thing a piece of shit, he called this guy slurs and everything else in court. I don't think he was trying to get off. That's what they're saying here. So they deny his petition to review in 1996. So he sits in death row.

There he wants pen pals, Jimmy. Of course. He wants pen pals. They always do. This isn't over by any means. Hold on. Stick with it. Holy shit.

While he's on death row, he wanted pen pals here. Keep hanging in there. His pen pal request here is always good. My name is Jeff T. Langren, and I am presently stuck here on death row in Arizona. Stuck. Presently. And stuck. Those two words together are funny.

I am 38 years old, have long blonde hair, weigh about 175 pounds. I'm 5 foot 9 inches tall. I am white and native american i'm originally from oklahoma so i'm just a simple country boy at heart into the outdoors although you're on death row where there's no outdoors like billy austin he's ready to go baby steve earl song okay you know it uh he said i love kids have two myself i don't know where his other one came from but he squirted one out at some point while he escaped from jail or something, as well as a young granddaughter. What?

Holy shit. So his kid had a kid. How does he know? So I don't know. Well, somebody, his ex-wife. Oh, she's don't. So they must be 16. That kid at this point.

That's crazy. He said, I am divorced and looking for friendship or what could possibly grow into more someone to sit at my execution with me. I like tattoos and I'm fully sleeved out myself. Being slammed down in the Supermax unit has limited my hobbies, as we aren't allowed much of anything in here. I enjoy listening to rock and roll, mostly early rock and some newer stuff,

but not death metal or rap or country. He's a country boy, but he doesn't like country music. If you're interested in writing, I'll answer, so drop me a line later,ff then he gives his address which uh doesn't matter anymore and we'll talk about why so uh he appeals for mercy there's new new uh there is new appeals based on his background at this point and other things too that we'll talk about some physical shit in a second uh there's a guy who says there's a whole project for this uh he says uh this guy this one guy uh dale a bob bite beach beach bach i don't know how you fuck you say that b-a-i-c-h oh bach bach he's a bitch i don't know dale bach he's an assistant federal defense public defender in phoenix and he's been assigned to handle these

appeals and uh he said he's arguing that jeff shouldn't be executed pointing out that his father and his factors that were beyond his control obviously and he goes over the same things we just talked about he says that uh he's never met most of his biological family or relatives uh quote they as a whole have contributed to his developmental history through genetics as well as their contacts with him through the first six months of his life. Okay, the genetics are one thing, but you're not putting, I put seeds in that infant's mind.

Like, you can't fucking poison a three-year-old's brain to be a criminal when they're, or a three-month-old when they're a fucking infant. The first six months of his life ruined him ruined him for that's that's crazy the genetics are one thing that's something you can at least you know you gotta try to you gotta try to deal with that shit every day yeah that's i mean he says behavior as a baby his activities in his childhood and youth and actions in adulthood did not constitute lifestyle choices in the sense of an individual operating with a large degree of freedom as we will come uh come to define as free will uh so now we get into uh uh now this is a an appeal based on

this is kind of one of the first appeals based on what they're calling the killer gene they're saying it's not his fault you can't sentence him to death because embedded he was programmed from the start his grandfather his father it's right down the fucking line uh yeah this took him out of that house put him in another one very young doesn't matter still same result randolph beats mortimer right you know what i mean that's what it is yeah dad what they're saying is dan akroyd should have still been fine and eddie murphy should have robbed that fucking that exchange blind yeah blind stole everything in the house that he got moved into tied the butler up had him stuffed in a fucking broom closet had everything in the house that he got moved into tied the

butler up had him stuffed in a fucking broom closet had everything in a u-haul truck sold and been back on the street pretending he had no legs the next fucking day that's what you know that's what we're saying here from this case here now this guy the the public defender in an interview said quote i'm not saying there is a quote unquote killer gene, but there are certain genetic factors that make people more prone to commit criminal acts. It's not an excuse. It's an explanation why people act the way they do. And he says, are we going to execute someone who didn't have choices?

Now, the thing about this. What a ballsy thing to say. Go on, though. He also hired a psychologist to examine jeff and diagnosed him with quote brain dysfunction yeah a general brain dysfunction of whatever drugs i have we all have some dysfunction in our fucking nobody's perfect we're all fucked up you put bouncy titties in the room i can't keep my eyes no you can't keep your tongue in your mouth so it'll hang out so uh the trial judge who is now retired she uh said in a sworn affidavit that if she had known about his extensive background she probably would have

sentenced him to life in prison so really yeah this guy said that yeah the judge who sentenced him to death so this guy if he just let the fucking lawyer do his fucking job and play this shit out out he probably would have got life in prison but he had to be an asshole in a show off in court yeah and then he ends up not getting life in prison so he had a neuro uh jesus also he says quote uh he says quote i've never met my father but he was definitely even without being there a big influence in my life that's what we said before uh now in 1998 they had a neuropsychological evaluation uh about all this type of shit and uh they said his genetic makeup

in utero exposure to substances early maternal rejection which there is an attachment thing to that and troubled interactions with his adoptive family resulted in a disordered behavior that was beyond the control of mr landrigan and left him unable to function in society that expects individuals to operate in an organized and adaptive manner, taking into account the actions and consequences of their behavior and their impact on society and its individual members. Basically, they said,

eat dicks, fuck you. Death penalty still. Okay. Didn't care. None of that shit mattered. Because once it's all going, try at the actual sent none of that shit mattered uh because once it's all going i try at

the actual sentencing that shit matters but it's hard to get off on mitigating shit later unless it's something extreme uh i feel like farrell knew that he knew that he tried he tried his best i mean the guy wasn't helping his own defense so it's kind of hard you need awesome they need you to help you they can't do it without you. That's the thing. December 2005, Daryl Hill, his father, dies of natural causes. Oh, wow. He was the longest serving Arkansas death row prisoner.

They never fucking got him. They never got him. He died in an Arkansas prison of natural causes. He had diabetes and liver disease. Ended up having some gastrointestinal bleeding and died. Which, I mean, he made it 75 years of a crazy life had diabetes and liver disease, ended up having some gastrointestinal bleeding and died. Bruh. So, yeah, which, I mean, he made it 75 years of a crazy life of being shot at by cops and shit.

In prison forever. That's pretty fucking impressive, just to live that long. In September 2007, all of Jeff's appeals run out, and the Supreme Court scheduled his execution for late 2007, but then the execution gets stayed because the U.S. Supreme Court was deciding whether lethal injection was cruel and unusual punishment because of the drug deal. So the Supreme Court approved the Kentucky three drug protocol in 2008, and a new Arizona

protocol was hammered out in 2009. So all of his appeals ran out, like I said. His attorneys at this point, though, received preliminary analysis of DNA evidence from the case. It was not tested at the time because there wasn't a big DNA reliable testing thing in 1989. So in 2007, his attorneys sent Chester Dyer's pants to a crime lab to have blood and semen stains tested. Two samples of semen were found, neither of which matched Landrigan, which I mean, the guy was also pretty promiscuous, they said. And, you know, if you're with guys, there's gonna be more semen around than if you were by yourself. So they were probably weren't his pants. They're

probably Chester's. This is a pair of chester's pants from the house that he was wearing got it at the time uh two uh dyers uh they said his pre but the blood was not tested after uh jeff had already been scheduled to die they approved sending the pants back to the lab for testing a judge did so uh the blood was found to belong to two individuals uh one assumed to be dire and the the other, a third person, was not Jeff. So Jeff's blood wasn't on there, but that doesn't mean he got himself. Exactly. Now, the defense attorneys argues that someone else had sex with Dyer and then the two struggled ending up in his death.

So he's saying he didn't even have sex with him. It must have been somebody else. And then Jeff got on a phone call with Michaelael asked about a job and just left empty-handed and then someone else came over and killed him real quick is what they're saying so uh the uh assistant arizona attorney general uh kent katani uh he maintained that the new dna findings were only cumulative and that because the other evidence placed in placed lander grin at the scene of the crime, they didn't matter, which is probably true. And finally, close to the execution time, the Board of Clemency recommended that Jan Brewer issue a reprieve based on the evidence. They actually recommended, the Arizona Board of Executive Clemency recommended a reprieve

for the death penalty, and Brewer said, no, you're good, fuck it. No, what, evidence? This is Arizona. We don't do evidence, really. And when we do have evidence, we claim... We flip a switch and yell yeehaw and move on. We claim diplomatic immunity because I'm a fucking drunk. Yeah, exactly.

Un-fucking-real. I hate her. Yeah, she sucks. So, yeah, she said, no, we don't think so, based on that. So, October 25th, 2010 jeff is set for a next day execution uh they uh one page there's a an order there's a temporary restraining order because of the the lethal injection drugs that's hanging in the air and then a uh a five to four vote in federal court vacates or in supreme court vacates this guy's stay so it's a it's a five to four party line

time to go time to go here uh they said that the judge's reasoning was flawed because the case affirmed the constitutionality of the three drug execution method and had a high standard of proof that an execution method uh would call it wouldn't cause harm the court said quote speculation cannot substitute for evidence that the use of the drug is sure or very likely to cause serious illness or needles are needless suffering. There was no showing that the drug was unlawfully obtained, nor was there an offer of proof to that effect. The five justices that obviously voted for this were the conservative ones and Kennedy. He went over there and then the other ones were the dissenters, obviously. Now, this is this is fucking interesting here.

They basically, it's so weird, man. So he's sitting there on death row, and it's a 10 a.m. execution, and they're trying to get this blocked here. Like we said, Jan Brewer wasn't any help. The federal judge wasn't any help uh the federal judge wasn't any help now another federal judge had to question whether they had another hearing about whether the state legally obtained one of the drugs needed by the execution for the execution they had a shortage of sodium uh thiopental and it raised questions uh by his defense attorneys about whether the state went outside of the u.s food and u.s Food and Drug Administration regulations to get the supply.

Now, the state said the state, a federal judge ordered that the state say where they got the drug. And the state said, no, we won't tell you. None of your business. They said the information is protected by state law concealing the identities of those involved in executions, including a chemical company making the fucking drug. That's a bit crazy that's out there yeah no yeah i want if we're gonna have the death penalty that shit has to be so transparent it's not even fucking funny now on the arizona department of corrections announced that it had obtained the drug through uh and through court hearings revealed it had not

come from a fda approved source yeah um dude gonna do it in the alley yeah that's pretty much it well they did it from england okay they said that the so the the judge ordered that the state immediately release and publicly disclose the source of their drug its expiration date and other information about its manufacture and uh the uh kent katani guy the attorney general dude their assistant attorney general said he would reveal only the expiration date and a motion to reconsider the ruling and if the judge insisted he would offer to provide the other facts under seal so it won't even tell people uh now jeff landrigan claimed he spoke to a department of corrections director charles ryan about the drug uh he said the uh the spokesman a corrections department

spokesman wouldn't confirm the conversation wouldn wouldn't deny it either, though. He said, Landrigan said, quote, I asked the director if he was going to tell me where he got the drugs to kill me with. The director said it was all on the up and up. Okay, I guess that's fine then. So finally, like we said, the Supreme Court lifted that stay and said,

fuck it, if they don't want to tell you, they don't have to tell you, which is batshit crazy. It could be Drano. It could be anything. They don't even tell you what it is or where they got it. They just have to tell you, or they can say what it is. It's expiration date. What it is and what the expiration date is, and that's it.

Not where you got it or if that's a trusted manufacturer, if it's approved, whatever. We think it's this. That's what we're told. Yeah, so it's a big execution because this was like the new cocktail here. whatever so i think it's this that's what we're told yeah so it's a it's a big execution because uh uh this was uh this this was like the new cocktail here so this was a big execution uh here because they had the new drug and all that kind of shit uh they they think it came from great britain this chemical and great britain uh it's illegal to produce chemicals for execution

within the united states so they think this was a back a backdoor dealing that was illegal in great britain for this company to make and export this drug and illegal for them to buy and use but they both just said yeah all right and fuck it we're just going to kill this guy ain't no thing yeah so uh wouldn't it be great if in an execution you could pick your own going out song you know that would be yeah like like you're coming out yeah that would be good that would be i don't think they'd let you though you don't think you can at least slap some headphones on the guy what does everybody else know truly tell them it's like it's to for to strike fear in their hearts so they don't can't hear anything and they're confused about their surroundings they'll let them listen to fucking enter sandman if they feel like it who cares whatever yeah whatever

highway to hell yeah get it going here uh so j Jesus Christ. So, yeah, the UK introduced the ban of the exports in December 2010. So it was right after this was the problem because this is October 2010. It hadn't banned the export yet. So October 26th, 2010 comes around. Yeah. And that is execution day. Yeah. He has a last meal.

Great. Last meal, Jimmy. You excited? Fire up the deep fryer. And that is execution day. Yeah. He has a last meal. Great. Last meal, Jimmy. You excited? Fire up the deep fryer. Let's get some chicken. You know it, baby. Nope. Steak.

Yeah. He's from Oklahoma. They like their beef there. Does he tell you what kind? Just steak. Just steak. Fried okra. Yeah.

French fries. Strawberry ice cream. And a Dr. Pepper. Okay. It's not a bad last meal as far as they go there's been some shit ones and that's not at least it wasn't the macadamia nut yeah that was weird that was macadamia nut pancakes yeah yeah yeah that's what it was remember that's in there so he eats that and then uh they take him in to be take and obviously the no one's saving him here the

governor with you know an actual recommendation for clemency was like, fuck, no, we're killing this guy. Drugs? No, we got it in an alley. Don't worry about it. Jesus Christ. They say, do you want any last words? He goes, sure do. And they said in a strong voice and a heavy accent from Oklahoma, he said, holy fucking shit.

He says, quote, well, I'd like to thank you. And to my Jesus, I'd like to thank you and to my Jesus. I can't even get it out. Well, I'd like to say thank you to my family for being here and to all my friends and boomer sooner. No, that's his last word. Boomer. He said boomer sooner. And they fucking killed him.

Fucker. No, I've never wanted to kill someone as much as when I heard that. And then I said, good thing is two seconds later, they killed him. They got to kill him. I was like, good. Boomer Sooner, you fucking asshole. That's what he said. He's the one that says it.

Boomer Sooner. Jesus Christ. That's who you are, dude, who yells Boomer Sooner at live shows. Now you should never, ever say those words ever again. Never. No one should. So if you don't know what that means, the Boomer Sooner is what university or Oklahoma University fans, that's their Sooners or their shit. so if you don't know what that means the boomer sooner is what university or oklahoma university

fans uh that's their sooners are their shit so uh we have so much oklahoma so much yeah we have a lot we're gonna get more uh he then looked around and put a big smile on his face and fucking laid back down he said this just like well i'd like to thank all my friends and family for coming out and boomer sooner let's do this and sat down all happy like he was getting some ice cream and then they uh they put the drug in the first one he closed his eyes and they checked uh to see if he was sedated and uh death was pronounced at 10 26 a.m they closed the curtain sounds like it worked he's dead yeah and uh that is a crazy wow fucking story that's shit man man. Episode 100 couldn't be something just of A to B. It had to be a crazy one.

And we got a lot involved, babe. We got cheer up, bitch. We got sooner coming through this. That's what I'm saying. It all came through. What a story. Not only that, it's just it's so this is so small town murder. The guy literally said, bring it on.

I'm ready. Like, this is very small town murder, even though one of the murders, bring it on. I'm ready. Like this is very small town murder, even though one of the murders happened in a big city, it doesn't matter. It's still, uh, I would say, uh,

this is like a quintessential small town murder story. It shouldn't have happened in the big city ever. No, he should have been in the other one for a while in the jail for 20 years or so. So, uh, yeah, this is,

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Can't wait to hear it. I must roll you up in this carpet first. Beat me with a skillet, Jimmy. This week's executive producers are Melissa Chai, Elizabeth Wolfinger, or Wolfinger. Wolves don't have fingers. Well, yeah. Ellie Comack, Lisa Coltrane. She wears the apron. Oh, yeah, yeah. She's awesome. Yeah, Lisa Coltrane. She's the one that brings – she wears the apron.

Oh, yeah, yeah. She's awesome. Yeah, she's really cool. She got that picture for us. She got that picture signed. Yeah, thank you. You're cool as hell, Lisa. Thank you.

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Thank you so much. Truly, you're fantastic. The producers this week are Regina Kudajaroff. What? Did I do that? I think you just flowed on that. Take that, Regina. Not bad.

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Maybe they hired – So much welding. Maybe Tanya works there. Under the Seat Fabrics. Ball seam weld. Under the Seat Fabrics. Lauren – Laurel, Laurel Christick. Russell Tobler.

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And our show is part true crime, part spooky, and part comedy. The stories we cover are well-researched. He claimed and confessed to officially killing up to 28 people. With a touch of humor. I'd just like to go ahead and say that if there's no band called Malevolent Deity, that is pretty great. A dash of sarcasm and just garnished a bit with a little bit of cursing. This mother f***er lied. Like a liar. Like a liar.

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