Small Town Murder - #122 - An Irresistible Force in Garden City, Idaho

Episode Date: June 6, 2019

This week, in Garden City, Idaho, where a local man disappears into thin air. His family is worried, but is he just on vacation? Is he having a good time? Or, is is something more sinister? The only person who may be able to answer these questions is a much younger woman, who happens to be living in his house. Where is he? Who is she? This is a wild story!!Along the way, we find out that country musicians have interesting names, that men are much less likely to ask a beautiful woman too many questions, and when you kill someone, try not to live in their house!!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Thursday! Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com & use our email: [e-mail] Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports! Follow us on... twitter.com/@murdersmall facebook.com/smalltownpod instagram.com/smalltownmurder Also, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On iTunes, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You're listening early and ad-free on Wondery Plus. What if you married the love of your life and then stood by them as they developed 21 new identities? What would you do? This Is Actually Happening is a weekly podcast that features extraordinary true stories of life-changing events told by the people who lived them. Listen to the newest season of This Is Actually Happening on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. This week in Garden City, Idaho, when a local man disappears, the only lead is a much younger woman who happens to be living in his house. Welcome to Small Town Murder. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to small town murder yay yay indeed jimmy yay indeed my name

is james petra gallum here with my co-host jimmy wissman thank you folks so much for joining us today on another crazy edition of small town murdered today we're excited today fuck yeah this is good stuff we cannot wait we're jacked up we have a this is an insane episode by the way and by the way don't first and foremost i know garden city is technically it's like i boise is all around garden city and it's like in the middle but it's its own town it's a fucking small town so don't you goddamn give me shit understand don't motherfuck james this. I found a loophole on this one for once. Every case I find, I'm like, this is a great... Oh, it's 80,000 people in this town.

Never mind. Well, you know what? This is a small town within a bigger town. You found the loophole poople. Take that. I did. And this is crazy. But before we get into that, just want to thank everybody because you guys are awesome

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This is a comedy podcast, so jokes happen. There's also murder. So that's a thing you've got to balance here is there's jokes and murder. The stories are all real. We don't make stuff up to make it funny. And what we do is we try not to make jokes about the victim or the victim's families you know to balance that out also we make jokes about murderers if a bumbling police force or some attorney screws something up that's that's worthy of it fair game and sometimes people's lives are just crazy and we're going to talk about it so if you're on your offense and and

run with us exactly if you're on board hop on board this is going to be a good time you're in the car we're on the way to the liquor store. Like we've said a hundred times. And if the small woman behind the counter's brain should end up by accident on the plastic vodka and the cartons of Marlboros behind the counter, then you're just as responsible as us. No complaining afterwards. We're going to have a good time.

So if that sounds good to you guys, we do have to say this, though. The victim's family thing. We are assholes, but we're not scumbags. That's the thing. So if that sounds good to you and we're all ready to go here, then I think it's time

to shout it out from the rooftops and from the... Stand on your desk in your cubicle. Shout it out the car window like a veiled racial slur while you're angry in traffic.

And that can go for anybody. It doesn't matter. They've all done it. Everybody's done everything. Shout, shut up and give me murder. Let's do this. Let's go on a trip, Jimmy. I would love it.

Let's go on a trip. We are, man, we've had a wild couple of weeks. It's been fun, though. Oh, it's been crazy fun. Lions and this and that. We're going to go to Idaho this week. The Great Calm Northwest. You're done with fun. No, no no this this story is out there and we have to tell you by the way stick around till right at the end of the story because we have something new that is

absolutely the craziest thing we've done and it's hilarious i mean you have something new because i have no fucking idea and i can't wait we're gonna present it though together so it's gonna be a lot of fun here so i get credit we're gonna do yeah it, though, together. So it's going to be a lot of fun here. So I get credit. We're going to do. Yeah, it's all good. We'll share that shit. It's all good. So we're going to Idaho. We're going to Garden City, Idaho.

Yeah. Okay. It's a southwestern Idaho. Not up there in the panhandle. This is smack in the pan. This is where the butter is melting. Still damn near close to fucking Canada. It's, well, yeah.

It's pretty far north. But, yeah. Oh, Idaho's up there, no matter where you are in Idaho. No. It's, this is, it's technically inside of Boise. It's a weird town the way it worked out. It's five minutes to downtown Boise, but it's like almost surrounded by Boise, but it's its own town. Okay.

Where it's like a complete- So Boise just kind of grew around it? Yeah. It's a super thing. It's really, really weird. Yeah, it's a super thing. It's really, really weird. It's five hours and 15 minutes to Salt Lake City and two hours and 25 minutes to Bellevue there,

which is episode 67, which we remember was, was that Sarah Johnson? Yeah, it was the girl that killed her parents with her boyfriend. Yeah, she killed her parents. I remember it very well because it's my friend's sister's cellmate. That's right.

Yes, that's right. That's fucking bananas. That's wild. Yeah, that came up. We're like, God, it is too small of a world in small town murder. Casey, write your sister a letter telling her I love her. I hope she's still alive.

Jesus. Yeah, really. That cellie is nuts. Whoa, she's out there. But, you know, unless there's insurance money for her to collect, I don't know if she's really interested in violence because that was the problem there. That was the motivator. Jesus Christ. So this is in Ada County. I assume it's Ada. ADA.. So this is in Ada County. Ada.

Ada. I assume it's Ada. ADA. I think it's Ada. It's got to be Ada County. Zip code 83703. Area code 208. 4.27 square miles.

So not huge. Not small. Idahoans, if that's Aida, fuck you. Yeah. If you have some weird pronunciation for a three-letter word, we're not going to. Four. No, it's ADA. Oh, I thought you said-letter word, we're not going to. Four. No, it's A-D-A. Oh, I thought you said A-I.

No, no. Okay. A-D-A. Yeah, that's A-D-A. It's got to be A-D-A. Or if it's A-D-A, I don't care is what I'm getting at. Their motto here, and this is on the sign, quote, nestled by the river. It's right on the river, the Boise River.

That's very smart. And their other motto, is they keep this one a little more private but internally this is on like their their letterhead here quote we're just too big of dicks to just be boise you know just we can't we can't just be we can't just be boise and get it over with we're going to be surrounded by it but we're our own town okay with our own police and it's a it's another little world in there too it's it's different it's like it's it's another little world in there, too. It's different. It's a weird place. It's like that movie with... I can't think.

What's his name? God damn it. No idea what you're talking about. The Jim Carrey movie with the bubble. Oh, Truman Show? Truman Show. But with old people. I kept going Thurman in my head.

But with old people. This is kind of like... How fun was that? You get quarantined here, I i feel like once you're over 65 is how this works my brain you have to live here yeah they're gonna send it up there if you're not in my brain jims you don't know what's going on i i see like it's guy i figure sometimes when that stuff is happening it's whatever happens when homer simpson's standing there and there's like a monkey playing the drums or like a like a you know a bird doing like loop-de-loops in the air exactly what's happening in that that's what i figure

because i got that sometimes too it's like a spinning wheel on an apple computer well the word thurman popped in my head and i knew that wasn't it so every time i went to say something it was my brain was like say thurman and i'm like it's not that so then me and my brain are arguing it's a terrible i'm stuttering trying to get you to understand and I'm going I don't know what it's Truman not Thurman also so that was wrong

it's a forgettable movie let's be honest it's true but there was a dome an interesting idea but done very weirdly so history of this place people started coming here you know from the outside in the 1800s the early 1800s explorers and fur trappers and shit like that because this is you can kind of get through to the like the canadians would come down and they go to the

pacific ocean from here and swoop down and i don't know if there's beavers hanging out around the river or what but fur people uh they established a trading post around here. Then the British Hudson's Bay Company opened a post at the Snake River in 1834 here where Parma is now. Does the snake come off the Idaho? I don't have, I don't, I'm not sure of the intricacies of the Idaho River system, but I'm not positive about the tributaries and where who's going. I mean, how much research are you doing? Jesus, you know what? You're putting this all into perspective going where. I mean, how much research really are you doing, James? This is ridiculous.

You're putting this all into perspective for me. I mean, yeah, I'm studying the town and the culture and the murder that took place there in the story, but I'm not really doing the geography enough justice. You're right about that. How about the reservoirs? Where are they? From now on, I've got to worry about the water.

I've got to get a relief map so I can get elevations going. I've really got to get this working. I'm sorry everybody's what i'm saying i apologize i've really exposed your weaknesses you've exposed it and you know what it's a it's one of those things where i always knew i'd be exposed it's like it's like a fraud that went into a town that's con everybody i knew someday the ruse would be up i don't know the rivers in idaho fine i fucking i don't know them you got me i. I'm guilty. So, yeah. In 1841, first people kind of came through.

They came through here in route to Oregon's, say it with me, Jimmy, Willamette Valley. Good enough for you, Oregon? Okay? Is that okay? Is that where they were going? You picky sons of bitches? Yeah, they were going sons of bitches yeah they were going there the oregon's willamette valley passed through the area there and this was the oregon trail so this is kind of

you go through here fort boise was a supply station and a landmark on the trail as you might i think it's on the game you stop there and then you can study a murder and keep going right to the ocean i usually died before there well yeah what were you the farmer that's why i don't know i just be the banker buy everything you float there it's fine east of the mississippi every time i think you start pretty much at the mississippi so that'd be difficult do you start in missouri oh that's so you're crossing the missouri you're well yeah i think you start on the on the on the west side of the Mississippi. Is there a Missouri and a Mississippi that you have to cross both? Yes.

In the game. But they don't. Yeah, they run differently. I'm just right. I believe I'm not going to get into that. I don't know. So much river talk today. Thank you.

Welcome to River Talk with James and Jimmy. We're going to talk about rivers and how they work in the northwest wagon wheels. And, you know, just basically we got to get to the bottom of the river systems because it hasn't been talked about enough in podcasts. It's a lot of news, a lot of comedy, a lot of stories, a lot of true crime. But what you don't get is enough river talk, you know, in your in your shows here. In 1862, a group of 11 prospectors found a shitload of gold around here. And then a bunch of other prospectors found a shitload of uh gold around here and then a bunch of other prospectors came

16 000 in the next year came to an area with no infrastructure after 11 after yeah so you can have it once once the word gets out there's gold that way they just rush it's a it's like one of those movies with with the cannon what was the movie where they're all going cannonball run cannonball run the one with the... Mad, Mad World? There you go. People are in like cars and planes and fucking unicycles and shit. It's the Truman Show.

Yeah, that's the one. So there's a bunch of boom towns through here. It's kind of like Deadwood, which you won't watch. I'm trying. A bunch of those things. Watch the movie at least. You don't even have to watch the whole thing.

I'll make you a little thing of notes. You take it in you'll know what's happening oh that's okay he's he's oh he had a beef in season two with that guy oh yeah work for it just watch the goddamn show hey that's an idea maybe maybe on those dvds i gave you the entire right they're sitting right there on my dvd player of them. So, yeah, people came here. In 1863, the U.S. Army sent a bunch of people here to establish a military post up in this area. A lot of people here. People came and settled, and they were trying to basically figure out what was a good place to hang out. Because you go to a new place, and you see different areas of land and this looks good

but you never know over the course of a year maybe it gets weird here at this time or it floods a lot in this area you don't know so as you you're there a while you kind of have you figure it out so they they uh placed a town next to fort boise and called it boise city which is obviously boise so they had they established a hay reserve there oh so you gotta have a reserve they've got reserves they had cavalry back then good point you would have to have hay reserves you have just like you had food reserves for your soldiers you have hay reserves for all your horses horses do eat hay right yes i think you need like a sugar cube reserve well i think that's a treat a treat is it yeah that's not what they eat for no you don't't want to give them sugar. Do you give them like a sandwich or something?

No, from time to time an apple. An apple? A carrot. Horse food? Some lettuce? No. Is there horse food? Like dog food?

There's a feed. You can get a bag of dog food and you put it in. You can get oats and shit like that. Mix it in with the wet horse food? I don't think it's canned. That's a shame. They're missing out, I'll tell you. If I was a dog, I'd want that. There's a lot of stuff you can feed a horse that's true that's true so uh in the 1880s a guy named tom davis came

to boise with the most plain name in the history of the world and he came to mine gold and he ended up buying a bunch of land and planting apple trees and vegetables and kind of became instead of gold he ended up selling shit to people. He got in the cattle business in the 1880s, and he also needed hay, so he bought this government island, got involved with this government island, and he started getting this land together, parcel by parcel, to piece together about 650 acres, which is most of Garden City now. 650 acres?

Well, that was what they started with. Got it. That of Garden City now. 650 acres? Well, that was where they started. Got it. That was Garden City. That's his hay reserve. Okay. So this started out as a place to grow hay. All right.

So that's basically why people are- Exclusively. With no town. This guy wants to just be here. He didn't want a town. He wanted a farm to grow hay on. Yeah, that's what he was doing. He wanted a huge area to grow shitloads of hay for all of his animals that he could then sell to people. This is the first time this has happened.

Yeah, we've really... It's really odd here. He had a history, Davis, of leasing property to Chinese immigrants who came to mine for gold. But then he would end up... A lot of them would end up farming also because of gold. People kept coming and there was like, there's no gold for all of you people. I don't know what you heard 20 years ago but it's all dried up right if you hear about it and you're like oh who went already and a couple people went over already it's done i missed it right the people

you know went think about if you if you know that many people who went think about all the people you don't know that went yeah it's got to be bananas that's what i'm saying so davis here he he had friends uh he also had a lot of the Chinese people that were his friends, which was not normal back then. People treated Chinese people like shit. They were new immigrants. Weird. Yeah. I don't know if you've ever seen a movie from the West, but the Chinese people are generally not portrayed as big characters.

No. I mean, even Wu on Deadwood. I mean, he's running his people. He's running the Chinese people, that area town. But when he goes into the right, he goes into the part with white people there. They treat him like an asshole, even though he's the boss of the fucking area. It's bullshit. So no good.

Did you see Shanghai Noon? Yeah, actually, they were they were in charge of building the railroad. That's what they know. That's well, that's their will. That was. Yeah, there was less railroad. But there was Chinese farms here and they would be located upstream of his property. They raised most of the Chinese farmers.

They had strawberries, onions, and things like that. Also hogs, much like Mr. Wu in Deadwood. This is an endless Deadwood reference, this one here. So they went through. Do you see the difference between the cinematography that you take in versus what I take in? Yeah, that's true. The horse shit that I watch? Did you watch Shanghai Noon?

Because I watched it this weekend. Did you see that Owen Wilson Western, James? Man, that's hot shit. Not big into the Leone series or any of those. The guy's saying, wow, in the 1700s. I'm supposed to believe that happened. Oh, my God. So they also had garbage collection service, the Chinese people.

Much like Mr. Wu here, they would go through the Boise area, picking up solid waste, sorting out the edible garbage and feeding it to their hogs. So the food waste they would feed to their hogs and they would feed bodies to Wu's pigs. If you killed a guy, you'd be like, oh, go bring him to Wu. And then the pigs would eat him and throw the clothes that they were wearing away. And that was that. Seen a few movies like that. And the story.

That's how it works here. Now, the Chinese people are pretty much gone here now, but they were there at the time here. So in 1949, the county commissioners approved the incorporation of Garden City. And this was from, because it was meant to grow shit. That's where it comes from, obviously. Oh, the garden.

Got it. Yeah. So it was actually a bunch of businessmen from Boise were promoting this so they could build an amusement center. Whatever the fuck. I just see miniature golf and a windmill and shit like that going on here. I saw way worse with businessmen. What do they get amused by? Their true motives were to build gambling houses that were just outside of boise because they couldn't get them in boise

so that's what they were really trying to do here and so there was a shitload of gambling places and this place turned into fucking dodge city but not in the 50s 1950s not 18 it was crazy yeah there's all sorts of shit there was tons of gambling established establishments up and down the street so then there was also restaurants and bars and all sorts of shit if people tons of gambling established establishments up and down the street so then there was also restaurants and bars and all sorts of shit if people are coming to gamble you know look at a casino they have all that everything comes to it yeah oh the prostitution oh you never know so shaking their ass for the men folk you know how it goes here so garden city that became a kind of a big thing people would they would uh you know people wanted to gamble

that were in boise so they just go to garden city so it became kind of a tourist thing people would they would uh you know people wanted to gamble that were in boise so they just go to garden city so it became kind of a tourist area for anybody in that northern northwestern whatever uh the government of garden city and all this they got a cut of the profits from the slot machine from all the slot machines in town brilliant so they didn't give a shit there was an article in 1951 in life magazine and they were saying how through that gambling profits that the city made they were buying uh putting in a ten thousand dollar park and a playground which 10 grand was a lot of money in 1951 a new water system a city hall and and re uh equipping the police force all paid for by gambling incredible

it was like when they legalize weed now they're like holy we were where'd all this money come from we were like 20 billion in debt and now we're 50 billion in the black remember when california was bankrupt throwing money away they're still having problems but it's colorado that has more money they know what the fuck to do with so you know what i mean so uh yeah so finally 1953 somebody here said quote somebody noticed the constitution and that the legislature had no power to go against the Constitution without amending the Constitution, which they didn't. At that time, it was gambling was still illegal in the state constitution. So they can go fuck themselves. And the Idaho people in Idaho considered the slot machines immoral. And it went all the way to the Idaho Supreme Supreme Court.

And slot machines and lotteries were all the way to the idaho supreme supreme court and slot machines and lotteries were were ruled illegal under the idaho constitution and wrecking they were being they were also recognized as a quote well-recognized evil and mischief wow that's a big switch tell that to all the police that you're paying their salary yeah everything else to the kids played on the playground they called it a moral nuisance so they they finally incorporated in 1967 and uh after some you know government legal where you could incorporate a village to a city or some horse shit doesn't matter i have a couple of reviews here that are hilarious just one is funny here's a three star it isn't it isn't bad to live in but i wouldn't recommend people to come and visit there uh really isn't much to see but there is an expo idaho fair which

comes every year and is also and it's very fun so there's that uh three stars and here's another three star uh there are chains and there are some awesome places dutch goose this is mainly a review of bars and restaurants here uh here's I like this one here. Three stars. Boise has many entry-level jobs. They pay teachers poorly, but better than other districts in the state. So I don't know what that means. And then three stars here. This person does not ask for a lot.

They're pretty open to suggestion. Quote, not very many abandoned houses in the area. Three stars. I don't know. That's's nice i like that he said the first guy said uh a great place to live but not to visit yeah not a lot to see here it's usually the opposite it's an old person going please don't come here i like no traffic i like living here don't visit me i like going to the bank and not waiting online because i go to the bank for some

reason old people love to go to the bank they love it i don't understand what my grandmother that's an outing for her twice a week what are you doing here bank grocery store church that's it three places to go no church but bank and grocery store people in this town population 11 637 it is up 83 since 1990 so people are moving there for some reason i guess they're getting older median age here is 45.9 so it's nine years older than your average in the country it's about 50 50 male female it's about average here 65 and over population 65 years old and over is double the average of everywhere else really yeah this is there's a lot of retired people here and all the stats otherwise are pretty normal except for for there's more married people with

no children, because they're older. So you get that sort of shit here. And a few more widowed people than normal, but not too much. The divorce rate's actually a little high. Race of this town, it's Idaho, so 86% white. You're going to get that. 0.61% black. 0.61%.

0.61%. Not a lot. Asian, 0.61 not a lot asian 0.45 percent asian they really ran not a lot there yeah and 11 percent hispanic so it's it's it's pretty white is what we're saying it's it's whatever you think idaho that's what it is especially boise just a potato waving at you pretty much that's what we have here yeah that's your average uh resident of the town 44.3 percent of the people are religious so it always drops 50 50s average it's always lower with older people they either forgot they believe in anything or enough bad shit's happened to where they've said there can't be a plan are you kidding me i like the first option better i've i've buried three of my children how can this be a plan?

I feel like that's half and half. Your plan sucks! We hate your fucking plan. So there's a lot of LDS here. A lot of Mormon people here. It's 16% Mormon. That's the highest cut here. 0.2% Jewish.

0.2% Muslim. So not a lot. Electorally here in the elections, 48% Republican and 39% Democrat. That's for the county. And 13% Independent, which is insanely high. This is militia country, everybody, so you're going to get that. I'm sure there was somebody running in the... Some Nader ticket?

No, no, no, no, no, no. Way worse? That Independent is the set-up towers at the border that you can shoot from contingent of. I think I feel like the extreme unemployment right here. Two point four percent. So excessively low. That's like economically not good. That's a too low almost.

Yeah. For the way economics work. It's a weird thing here. Household income. Median household income is about $43,500. It's usually about $57,000 in the country, so a little bit low. The jobs here, pretty basic. I mean, your basic stuff, a little more retail trade than normal. A lot of old people serving each other food, I feel like.

More health care than normal with older people. Cost of living, $ 100 is that regular average. Here it's about 117. A little bit high. Median home cost, this is where it's high. 170 out of 100. How do you do that? Median home cost, $326,400.

And they hate it. And that's, yeah. They're pissed. Lower income, higher home cost, which you're going to get with an upper scale retirement area. You'll get that because of the people. Fixed income shit. Fixed income, but they have, yeah, exactly. But they have like nest egg.

Exactly. They sold their house somewhere else. Right. They've been doing that for a while, so now they have money to buy a house. Exactly. A lot of the houses here, though, are between $150,000 and $400,000 are the bulk of the houses. And if we've convinced you that you need to be in Idaho, we have for you the Garden City, Idaho Real Estate Report.

Your average two-bedroom rental here is about $850, which for the buy rate to be so high, that's actually pretty low. That's super low. Yes, it's very low. Renting's the way to go here. I found a bargain, a bargain hunter alert here for you guys. Three bedroom, one bath, 1,232 square feet. Not going to lie to you, it's fucking rough.

Need some work, but $119,900. You could swing it. In this area, you're not going to get much better than that. Flip it. Flip it, man. I found a four bedroom, three bath66 square foot uh it's got a garage that looks like a barn outside like you know made to look like that 489 500 bucks that is a lot and then you want to stretch out you've done very well in your sold insurance or whatever shit you did. I don't know. A four-bedroom, three-bath, 3,562-square-foot place.

Very nice. Very well-appointed. $739,000, though, it's going to cost you. So it's pricey here. Things to do in this town. We have the Expo Idaho Fair. That's what that person talked about in the review. That's pretty much what happens here.

And also the Garden City Country Music Festival. So there you go. Oh, yeah. If you're near Boise, just go there. Oh, no, no. You're not getting the good acts there. Would you like to hear the artist lineup? Yeah, I do.

Stoney LaRue. Not bad. That's a headliner. Is that a person you've heard of yeah stoney larue are you fucking kidding no no who else you got no no that's fucking made up that sounds like a family guy made oh we're going to see stoney larue tonight uh he sucks stoney larue uh with guests aaron einhaus no uh pinto Bennett. No. That's, again, sounds like a member

of Stoney LaRue's band. Ridiculous. Tyler and the Train Robbers. Sounds familiar. The Jeremiah James Gang. No. What are these people? You have to come on horse.

You can't come into a town. You can't be the James Gang. No. And drive in with a fucking SUV. You better have a leather holster. Absolutely. And Spurs. George DeVore.

No. He has no flair there. Andrew Shepard, the Grant Webb Band, and Barton and Baller. No. I think I've heard of Andrew Shepard. Sounds like it should be

Darden and Dollar. What's this festival called? This is the Garden City Country Music Fest. It's rain or shine, goddammit. They're going to fucking get up there. We paid them. Rock and play.

We paid Stoney LaRue to come to town. When you pay Stoney LaRue. You get Stoney LaRue. We said if it rains, we're going to cancel it. And he said, fuck no. I'm Stoney fucking LaRue and I don't let my fans down. My first name's Stoney. I fucking rock hard.

No food or beverages from the outside allowed in. Lawn and camp chairs are okay, but the space is limited for them. So you get there early. There will be tables and chairs provided under a shade tent just in case. All ages. There's an after party from 1130 to 130 a.m. It's 21 and over. I figure that is just Sodom and Gomorrah in there.

It's just a fucking awful people. It's 21 and over. I figure that is just Sodom and Gomorrah in there. It's just a fucking awful people. It's gross. It's basically like the Eyes Wide Shut party, except with hillbillies. It's disgusting. So, yeah, crime rate in this town. I don't know. Crime rate in this town. Property crime here is about 25% high, which you wouldn't expect with an older town they're usually

lower violent crime murder rape robbery and assault the mount rushmore of crime is about 20 percent high yeah those old people ain't fucking around also it goes up around that music fest oh boy once just stoney larue just stoney's roadies alone just stoney stage act they come through and pillage it's like we're all rock hard it's like they're like vikings they just come through and pillage the shit out of that place actually it's it's like in blazing saddles and they have a number six dance afterwards so uh uh let's talk about a murder okay it's all a light-hearted nightmare on our podcast morbidbid. We're your hosts. I'm Alina Urquhart. And I'm Ash Kelly. And our show is part true crime, part spooky, and part comedy. The stories we cover are

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by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to episodes early and ad free by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. I think it's time. I'd love to. It's time here. Well, let's start out. Let's talk about a gentleman. Shall we? Let's talk about a gentleman named Brian Barton Geddes. Brian, we'll just call him. He doesn't use the middle

name, but that's his middle name. Brian Geddes. His middle name is Barton? Barton. Yes, Barton uh he is 49 years old in 2012 we'll talk about him so he is uh he is uh his birthday is is in october also so we're gonna get right up this is the month he turns 50 in 2012 he is a local businessman in garden city he owns a car dealership or a couple car dealerships. And he's an interesting cat, this guy, actually. And I found, wow, when researching people, sometimes you find some shit, sometimes you don't.

And you can kind of, sometimes through obituaries of family members, you can piece together family histories. And this is what I do a lot. I'll find a bunch of dead people, and then I'll piece together. Oh, piece together oh he had three grandchildren oh that was one so that must be his uncle and i'll piece together these family trees like that okay it's fucking crazy you are a 23 and me i'm an idiot is what i am this is not necessary this isn't necessary my favorite murder doesn't do this i'm sorry they don't they do much better than us and they don't do this. So maybe this is stupid. Maybe I'm doing maybe this is the problem.

Maybe nobody cares. Maybe they don't want shit like this. No. This is so stupid. Why do I do this? I read Jimmy. This is you don't understand. I went through like a 600 page history of the Getty's family put together by some archivist. There are so fucking many of these people going back hundreds of years and

they're Mormons. The family's fucking Mormon. So be huge. Literally they had, they had polygamous sects in the, back in the day that they were part of. So some of these people have five wives and 30 kids and 97 grandchildren. Then it would tell about each fucking one.

And I just scroll through all of this to get to one fucking guy. That was, I don't know, hundreds of pages in because this started in the 1500s in Scotland. That's when this thing started back then. They weren't Mormons then, obviously, but they started in the,

in the 1500s in Scotland and goes to present day Idaho. It's a, it's a fucking journey. So you're're gonna hear about this shit because i had to read it so take that you know about a polygamous sect that has nothing to do with this shit nothing to do with anything birthed this guy i've read lots of weird shit though here i found uh i found his grandfather here uh and kind of the whole family it's so crazy man i'm reading this history and this one moved it's like reading the bible this one begat that one who we got this one and then

they moved to eastern oregon which isn't in the bible but it's it might be i don't know i never read the fucking bible it's it's yeah eastern oregon the new sodom eastern oregon the new sodom put that on your fucking signs. Willamette Valley. Put that on your fucking signs. Put that on your license plates, as a matter of fact. All my kids fucking in the car playing license plate

games. What's that say? Nothing, Sod. Turn your head. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Where's Sodom? Ask your mother. Jesus, is this kid asking this for real ask your mother on her weekend my god on her weekend that weekend awesome oh that's awesome that's awesome so yeah so his father's born in 1915 in oregon and his parents they moved to idaho and uh his father worked in his grandfather this This would be Brian's grandfather worked in a lumber mill and they had a

bunch of other, they had a bunch of kids that they, I'm not sure if this particular branch of the family is Mormon or not. That's the only thing I couldn't ascertain because it doesn't seem like they are from there. They don't cause every other, like if you talk about this cousin and these people, it'll say what church they belong to even on there.

I'm talking 200 years ago. It's telling you what church they belong to. Like, this shit is crazy. This is what I had to sift through. And so I don't believe so. But they ended up moving to Seattle eventually. And he was there. Then war.

The war broke out. World War Two. So he the father got some good jobs. And, you know, the war industry was a big industry so it was uh employed by a ship company that made ships for the war effort here and he was a welder his father and he was finally uh he also worked for the railway express agency and then eventually they moved to a small ranch in eastern oregon which was and then they ended up moving to pullman washington he had a couple small businesses sold them off and then went to work for washington state

university and ended up employed there in the chemical supplies department and that's his dad that's his dad got it and uh so he is born finally jesus christ here uh brian good god where is this brian barton brian goddamn barton shitting getty getty cb getty he's born on october 17th 1962 in either uh moscow idaho or sacramento california one of the two the family history says moscow idaho but the obituaries of people around him say Sacramento was where they were. So we don't know. It's weird. So either one of those he was born. I don't know.

If you were born in the 60s, it doesn't seem like it's far enough back to where you wouldn't know where you were born. Like what city? Those are different states. And his last name is plural Getty. Is that what you said? Yeah. G-E-D-D-E-S. Oh, got it.

Getty's. Getty's or whatever it is. It's Getty's, right? I think so. That's what I've heard pronounced here. And this story, by the way, outside of this here, a lot of information

actually, very odd to say this because I'll say there's a show called Snapped, which is not a great show, I'll be honest with you. It's kind of cheesy. Great premise, horribly done. Horribly done. And a lot of our episodes have Snapped episodes,

because they do like 800 a year, and so these murders seem to pop up. And usually, I'll always watch anything that's associated with us, and usually get nothing out of them beyond the court documents. This particular case, they actually had some decent information on backgrounds and shit that weren't in other places so good for you so you're saying they scoured through those fucking god damn it kudos they scoured through those internet i don't think they scoured through this no they are smarter than me probably that's why they're much more successful i made made an intern to it. Made an intern to it, yeah. So he's born.

He ends up growing up, and he ends up growing up. He has a couple of kids also. He's successful in everything he does, this Brian Geddes guy. Well, not until a little later in his life, but when he's in his 20s, he's unemployed. This is the mid-80s. And mid-80s were economically a little bit tough. This was about 85, 86, and it was kind of starting to turn a little bit for like a year and a half, and then it went in the shitter again.

So he had a $600 unemployment check that he had, and he bought a car with it that he could fix and sell for a little more. He saw a car that was a good deal, so he bought it, flipped the car, and then used that money to buy another car. It was a little more expensive, and he flipped it. he turned this into multiple car dealerships he is brilliant starting out with six hundred dollars in one shitty car a six hundred dollar car in the 80s which wasn't a

great car and he turned that into a business to where over the next 20 years it grew to the point where he was making a couple million dollars a year off of multiple car dealerships. Goddamn American dream. From $600. That's what I mean. That's the dream this guy has been living. He just loves his life. This is a happy dude.

He's happy. He's got a car dealership. He's got a bunch of money. He does everything he wants to do. He likes to hang out. He's got a house by the river, by the Boise River that he loves. He likes to mess around with cars, not like fix them up. But now he has fancy shit.

Now he's got a Beamer. He's got a Hummer. He's got a Porsche. He's got a boat. He's got a motorcycle. He's living his fucking dream. He's having a great time. He has a couple of grandchildren he likes to hang out with.

And being that he's his own boss, if he wants to take the day off and go fishing with his grandkids, god damn it, he does it. Hell yeah. So he does everything that he wants to do. He's a millionaire. Everything's great. Then all of a sudden, mid-October, right around his birthday. His birthday is October 17th. His family talks to him on the 16th, and then he disappears. a sudden mid-october right around his birthday his birthday is october 17th last uh his family

talks to him on the 16th and then he disappears just gone you're saying that gambling place is closed by now vanished that part of garden city's closed but that's actually pretty prescient because that's going to come up in the story but not that gambling place but a different one so they don't know what's going on he's not returning phone calls and stuff but he's also a grown man yeah and it's not like put out a silver alert that they do with the old people he's 49 years old just turned 50 he's has all his faculties he's physically healthy he has millions of dollars yeah he could be on a vacation somewhere yeah and tell you all to go fuck yourself he could have on a whim i'm to do something different for my 50th birthday.

I'm finding Fiji. Bought a ticket and went to Hawaii for whatever. Who the hell knows? I'm going to go sit on the sand. I'm not talking to my kids. That was a Truman Show reference. I know. Truman Show reference.

How many times have you watched Truman Show without watching The Wire? Way too many times. He's seen the Truman Show. Give me an estimate. What do you got probably 11 okay i've probably seen it like four or five times it was on like the movie channels it was on netflix for a while and i was like i'll watch it again sure

jesus christ is that why you were listening to stoney larue maybe is it possible that at one time you were watching the Truman show while Stoney LaRue was playing, even for a second, could they have crossed over? It's possible. That would be amazing. That's we've really done something here. So he's missing.

Stoney is a great artist. I'm sure he's killing it. Excellent. Sure. He's excellent. There are, I've heard this talked about before too. There are,

it's one of those things. There's different niches in this world that people don't know shit about like there's podcasters that make a ton of money that you know have millions and millions of listeners that make a ton of money that no one outside of podcasting has any idea who they are youtube people are the most they'll have like three million followers they make millions of dollars anyone who's not a particular sect of 16 year olds have no fucking idea who they are it's true that's the same with country music it's true there are people that make 70 million dollars a year doing country music who i would never if i bumped into him in a store i'd go hey get out of my fucking way redneck shit kicker get out of my face some genes that are put together

yeah yeah i have i have no idea who these people are it's one of those things like i have no idea about that world it's just funny to me it's funny too because those guys their fault right and those guys too i don't even recognize them because i don't listen to like the the mainstream i don't listen to that shit i hate that music it's phony i'm gonna blame you so i listen to like just people that are more underground and bluesy and fucking rebel rock, James. It's fucking, it's real. But it's not real. It's not real.

They have cell phones. You don't sing around and do all this shit and you get off and you get on Twitter. Yeah, but a farmer has a cell phone, too. Yeah, but he's not singing about farming and only being a rebel rocker. All that shit's phony. That's a good point. He's got an SUV that's got leather seats and hookups for all of his things and a Bluetooth thing rebel rocker. All that shit's phony. That's a good point. He's got an SUV that's got leather seats and hookups for all of his things

and a Bluetooth thing that hooks up. He's full of shit. Guys like Whitey Morgan, though, travel this country in like a fucking blazer, an old school ass blazer. But it's hooked up. John Madden travels it in a goddamn, you could say John Madden went around in a trailer.

Well, actually, it was a $2 million fucking space-aged RV with every comfort of a five-star hotel. That's what they're doing. It's the same thing. Yeah, you got a point. It's all phony shit. It's a pretty nice truck. Beyond about 19, I don't know, 71, it's over now.

You're not a rebel. They'll just get you on camera and arrest you. You're not a rebel. There's no more Waylon Jackson. No, it's sad. It's sad. Rap's gone the same way. You're right.

What the fuck happened? There used to be real fucking gangsters rapping. No, it's sad. It's sad. Rap's gone the same way. You're right. What the fuck happened? There used to be real fucking gangsters rapping. Yes, that's what I mean. You think about it. It used to be like, oh, he's only on two songs on that album. You know why? Because he's in fucking prison. He's in prison.

That's why. Because it was like they were actually doing the shit they were talking about rather than just talking about dancing. But also, too, they distance himself from the actual big crimes they get locked up for some racketeering or something for a little while yeah now the guys are going to prison because they're trying to get street cred by murdering their fucking friend or tax evasion right that's the other fucking idiot yeah it's it's so funny though that with with rappers it's it's it's no to me it just it takes it all out of it i i liked hearing about oh fucking big

noid got shot eight times and then got taken to prison but when he was out for a month on probation on parole before they put him back in he made an ep that's fucking amazing that's amazing i had to cop that at best yeah rather than exactly rather than oh that fucking dude graduated from juilliard right and then put on you know funny tight pants and his dancing his hair different colors yeah put a number in his name yeah and then now white girls like him right and it's like i don't know good for you make make everybody make money that's good for you getting paid jesus christ yeah fuck your music sucks i can't listen to shit so on either end the country or the new hip-. I can't do either one of them.

So he's missing. Brian's missing. He's got, he's not just some schlub. He's got employees. He's got family. People miss him when he's gone. They look in what's he been doing in September 2012, the month before he made a Twitter account, which is interesting. He made a Twitter account, and it's Brian Barton Geddes.

He's at BrianBG777. Look at that slot, 777. So, see, the gambling keeps coming up. He says, quote, my first tweet is today, dot, dot, dot, love and hugs to all of you. So that's his first tweet, and it's got no likes. Are you proud of yourself now, sir? Yeah. That's a bad tweet.

That's not a bad tweet that's not a great tweet but he is an older guy who just got out of social media you're in your 50s so you know what he's trying i'll give him that what year was this this was 2012 he's ahead of the curve so that's i mean he was actually ahead of the curve so he was trying we'll find out spot of twitter right in the tank yeah so we'll find we'll find out kind of what, maybe why, give an explanation. So while he's missing here, his daughter, Megan, she starts thinking something's wrong because he's not one to not contact people and to not answer people like his family. He's a reliable type of guy. He's not a flake at all.

It's not like, oh, you know, dad has a coke problem. So once in a while, he'll just disappear for like a week and a half, and he'll just emerge like 15 pounds lighter with a bunch of scabs on him and we got to take him to the clinic to get some some shit for whatever he's picked up on his dick from the street hookers he's been messing with you know you know how it goes so we take him to the clinic and then a vet we have to do a lot because we don't know where he's been honestly for coke he could have done anything get him on some safe no he's he's so that heartworm will get you every time boy tell you something we'll look out for the heartworm so his daughter feels guilty because while they were talking this is in like october 14th maybe he disappeared the 17th or disappeared

the 16th birthday on the 17th this This is like the 14th or 15th. She feels guilty because she hung up abruptly because she was in a hurry. She had to go somewhere. She was in the middle of some shit. And she and she was like that. I have to go quick. And he was in the middle of talking and she hung up and then she didn't talk to him anymore for a few days. So she felt horribly guilty and was trying to get a hold of him again because she felt

bad. She wanted him to finish his story or whatever. So on his birthday, she called him, which was a couple of days later. She called him repeatedly and he wouldn't. He never called back. He never answered or called back, which they said on his birthday. Obviously, like most people do, he's open for happy birthday phone calls. If he sees his daughter calling on his 50th birthday, it's probably probably something good she's probably not calling to call you a cocksucker she's probably

gonna say happy birthday dad i have cake or maybe she's gonna say 50 years of being a cocksucker congratulations for ruining my life thank you yeah you shattered my whole psyche yeah you know i choose the wrong men because of you you know me fat for too long that's what i mean yeah i let people walk all over me now thanks a lot you ran away and came back and made me never comfortable in any situation yeah i was 23 you called me baby fat remember that yeah you remember that i still hurt so it was out of character so they said he he likes doing shit and stuff like that but but he always puts his family first. He always hangs out with his grandkids or sees his daughter.

That's what he likes to do. He's not a guy who's like, listen, I got international playboy type shit going on, so I don't have time for you. I'm going to a casino in Monaco tonight, and I got four ladies waiting for me. Not his style. So she constantly texts him and calls him and everything. No response, no response, no response. Days and days and days go by. And she gets worried.

And so she just never lets up. She keeps, Dad, what the hell? What the hell? What the hell? And finally, she gets a text back after all this. And the text says that he went to Jackpot, Nevada, which is as shitty as it sounds. That's not like a a slang term for vegas no no that's a real place you do not confuse jackpot nevada with vegas jackpot nevada is like a

dirt road with four trailers on it that how happened to house slot machines that you're allowed to use that's like an ironic name fucking dump yeah no i looked at it it's a someone's gonna be mad about that i don't it's a fucking dump. Yeah. No, I looked at it. Someone's going to be mad about that. It's a goddamn shithole dump. Old people trap for their money. They call it jackpot. Yeah. That's what everybody that lives there was chasing at one point.

Exactly. Jackpot. Come to jackpot and win nothing and be really kind of sad the whole time, too. It's like Laughlin without a river, I feel like. It's just terrible, this fucking place. So that's where he says he's going. Poor Nevada. Poor Nevada.

Sorry, Nevada. He got one city, and it's a piece of shit, too. Yeah, it is a piece of shit, too. Let's be honest. Half of the whole state was just destroyed with nuclear testing. It's a fucking... You know what I mean? Yeah, there's very few trees in that place.

We're doing nothing that Vegas vacation didn't do much worse with Cousin Eddie's house alone. So, you know what I'm saying? So, there's brain damage and radiation and everything. There's all sorts of shit going on. It's not our fault. No. Everyone there is like, yeah, exactly. It's like any time if you live in Arizona, anybody that picks on Arizona, if you've been here long enough, you're like, well, yeah, absolutely.

Of course. It's fucking terrible. Yeah. You can sort of afford to live here and it's kind of warm in the winter so you know you take the good with the bad somebody that's it somebody asked me on twitter uh they're visiting things they're like what's good to eat there i'm like are you it's a fucking it's the seventh biggest market in america everything if you can't find food here you're probably in tucson yeah that's what it is. You've gone too far south then at that point. You are almost in Mexico.

That's what happened. Well, where there's better food than Tucson. We're saying Mexico or Phoenix, fine. Tucson, not good. Don't do it. Get out of there. No. So he's in Jackpot, Nevada.

And overall, out of all of this, she said that was weird of him to go to Jackpot, Nevada. He wasn't a big gambler, even though his Twitter handle is 777. She says he's not a big gambler. He doesn't he doesn't he doesn't kind of he just doesn't gamble his money away. Everybody says he's not frivolous. A friend of his said, quote, he's not a big gambler. He wasn't frivolous with his money except to buy things that he could use. But he wasn't he didn't throw money away which is you know smart that's good so his daughter his daughter and his daughter is uh

god damn it this is one of those things this is like a grim karen situation where it's it's this you know missing guys family members so you feel bad but she's kind of got this attitude in the in the interviews i've seen that and it might just be the way she comes across, but she just seems a little bit like, a little like the money puts her, she seems tense. My dad's got $2 million, so you need to look around for him. No, not like that.

If you don't find him, it's fine. Not like that. She said, quote, my dad would never, ever go to jackpot. The way she said it wasn't like, that's not what he was into. It was like, that's trash, and that's below him which is probably might be true but the way it was said it was like okay and i don't mean like i said i'm not trying to pick on this this woman because you

know this is a her father's missing or whatever but it's it's uh it was just it kind of gives you just the general overtone of what's going to come here kind of wish it wasn't on this show and that he actually was there and she had to eat crow. He was just, all he was doing was, he's having fun. He's partying it up, just living it,

just eating shitty, like crappy shrimp cocktails that were $1.99, just woo, swinging them around, cocktail sauce flying all over the place. Doing blow off some retirees' long titties. Yeah, whoo.

Her titties are long, I can get more blow on them. Another pina colada for my lady friend come on edna fuck yeah so yeah uh never go to jackpot is what she says so a couple days go by and she's texting him over and over and over and he finally texts back i'm still in jackpot celebrating my birthday so it's like I've been here a week. I'm just partying it up and destination jackpot. You could work every slot machine in jackpot if you stayed there more than two days.

Like it's not a it's not Vegas is terrible after 48 hours. Oh, my God. It's horrible. It's the worst place. It's it's one of that's a weird thing. Vegas. It's almost like there's like insects that only live a couple days it's one of those it's like a butterfly locust it pops out of its cocoon and it's just this beautiful thing and then in two days it shrivels up and falls from the sky and

just dies and gets hard and crusty and you're like vegas vacation and you just want to fucking throw it in the garbage after you step on it and smush it into the ground. It's not good. That's Vegas after a couple days. And its head is still pounding from the horrible music being played at the pool that you tried to sleep through hungover. At every pool. Every fucking one of them.

Is it loud enough? I'm on the 19th floor. How can I hear that shit? Jesus Christ. It's like san francisco and they put me outside the that roof sorry that's a sidetrack but last time we were in san francisco for a live show for small town murder i got this room at the hotel it was literally their worst room it was like what's our worst room okay it was directly next to the valet station like our windows were next to each other so every car that pulled up i'd hear all the doors and then hear a

guy in broken english ask if he's parking valet okay you want your bags okay good good good and they get everything and then go in here drive away and then two seconds later every fucking non-stop all day all night that's all i fucking heard and we have the like opposite luck yeah always traveling it's amazing unless we go to nashville except for nashville otherwise yeah and i was in the same hotel yeah they gave jimmy beautiful beautiful room same price probably cheaper probably cheaper i don't know on the other end of the hotel feeling great Same hotel. Yeah, they gave Jimmy. Beautiful room. Same price. Probably cheaper. Probably cheaper. I don't know. On the other end of the hotel.

Feeling great. Silent as a mouse. I'm like, these fucking people. Stop parking here. Stop right outside. The driver's side door was in a pull-up spot directly outside my main window. Just right there. That was the circle.

If I wasn't sound asleep from the silence in my room i would have responded to your text about you about your horrible room it's it's like if the janitor like needed a place to stay for a night you'd be like give it home for 50 bucks fuck it whatever give him give him the one next to the valet or who cares no one rents that one anyway rent that one out anyway to me thanks so uh jesus christ horrific so she keeps calling him and couldn't texting him now the weird thing is after a while she'll keep calling him the daughter call him call him call him and after a while he'll text her back but he won't call her back only gets a text in return which is when you're trying to like blow somebody off you might do that or whatever so she's's like, what the fuck?

And it would always be a different excuse of why he couldn't talk. Like, I have no service right now. I'm in a casino or I'm going over here and I'm having dinner with a couple people so I can't talk for a couple hours and blah, blah, blah. There'd always be something, some excuse why he wouldn't talk.

And that's fine for a day or two, but after a week, you're like, okay, you haven't called me back in a week. You're being a dick. Yeah. You're not always out of service. I'm sure jackpot is just a swelling metropolis of cell phone service. So, you know, the daughter here, she said probably rightfully, my dad would never blow me off ever.

So, you know, that makes sense. Then all of a sudden he stops responding to texts as well. So this is late october so you know almost two weeks have gone by since he's been missing and he stops returning texts also so now his his daughter's like okay it's one thing that he goes away for a few days and maybe he's being a jerk or maybe he's mad at me or maybe he's having a midlife crisis at his 50th birthday who knows what people do and i'm sure that's what people told her, too. My dad's not missing.

But when they said, how old is he? 50. People go nuts on those milestone birthdays. Sometimes the guy, he might look in the mirror and go, holy fuck, I'm 50 and go, well, you know what? I got a bank full of money. I'm going to go party for a week. I better go rent a fucking Corvette for seven weeks and go put all the miles

I can on it. Yeah, that's like rent a Corvette and buy a hat and get on a convertible. I want to see the Hoover Dam. I want to see the Hoover Dam. That's what I mean.

People are probably telling her that. Like, give him some space. He's earned this. He's worked his whole life and, you know, it's his 50th. He's earned it, man. Give your dad a break here.

How much money does he have? Started from 600. Give the guy a break. Give the guy. He works his ass off, too. He's known as a very hard worker also and not a dick and very nice to everybody. There's no, nobody has a negative word to say about this guy. It's always shirt off your back.

He'll just give you the shirt off his back happily and then just wants everybody to be happy. So finally, finally, on November 2nd, the family says, okay, we've had enough here. We're going looking for him. We're going to find him. We're going right to his fucking house, and we're going to see what's going on here. So the family arrives here later.

We'll talk about this. The family arrives at the house. The first person to arrive there is the brother. We'll talk about that later we're going to kind of have a staggered timeline for this and trust me it'll pay off so uh the the daughter gets there a little bit later okay his daughter the one that's been texting him constantly she gets there she says when she when she pulled up she could see that the house was in disarray from the outside she says it was a complete disaster it was disgusting the house is

always in perfect condition and you walked in and it was just trashed so obviously that's that's a sign it's an oddity yeah that's not her dad at all like that's weird so she knocks on the door and it's answered by a 21 year old chick yeah standing there her dad's 50 not you're trashing my dad's house yeah she's like okay and she's met this girl before but the girl doesn't remember her right away now okay the first of all this the 21 year old didn't remember the guy whose house she's staying in's daughter yes that's what she says we'll talk about it this This is a girl named Jordan Shaver. She's 21. She's attractive. And, you know, this is, you'd go, oh, boy, maybe this, yeah, maybe this makes sense.

My dad's hooked up with some girl who's. He met this in Jackpot? So, well, no. Now, the claim is what the family says and what other people say is that she had met Brian recently and that she had moved in with him and was paying rent at his house with him they're roommates like an 80s sitcom he's a 50 year old millionaire and she's a hot 21 year old woman with no money and now they're going to live together and not have sex it's 1987 premieres right after alf at 8 30 on abc or whatever the fuck that's what this is. This is ridiculous. Yeah.

No, it's not happening. It's an odd couple. It's for sure. It's a very odd couple. Yeah. Like, no, it's a weird arrangement. I would say strange opposite to track shit. Yeah.

There's just totally platonic and living. It's just like, I don't know. I don't know. But maybe he's a nice guy. That would be a weird show to watch because on one side of the couch, your husband's going, come on, hook up with her. And then the wife on the other side is like, you filthy fuck, you better not. It's like mixing Three's Company with The Odd Couple.

You get a very odd, strange show. Yeah. So the family starts to grill her and say, well, where the hell is Brian? And they start asking her questions and she bursts throughout the door past them and runs out and just runs away that's her that's her answer gotta go that's her answer gotta go see you later okay so this this is takes off all right uh so they uh they she goes who is this broad is what we're asking who is jordan shaver she's jordan marie shaver her date of birth is january 21st 1991 so she is 21 years old at this point like we said uh some background on her she's from idaho she grew up pretty poor her family's poor um she i found some info on her

family jesus this is ridiculous found some info that kind of got up to where, you know, who she was. How many pages was this shit? Enough, enough here. Her great-grandfather came to the area. He was an elementary school principal and shit like that.

This guy here, the family moved to Idaho in 1923 and this guy went to college he went to notre dame actually how about that which is amazing and he learned he came back to idaho to run a fruit company with his father and then he ended up being drafted into the army and then all that sort of thing everybody back then it was army army army so he was discharged in 1946 as a captain and he got married and 1948 they sold the fruit company and he started to be a teacher and they they moved to uh they were in wilder idaho he was also a sports uh coach and that sort of thing and uh anyway the

family ended up this is where it started but from there they kind of uh the the next generation didn't do too well not a lot of notre dame graduates in the lower uh kind of as the generations go on here and all the way up until his the uh her his great-granddaughter who is jordan as she kind of comes from kind of about a 40-year history of kind of white trashery in the area, I would say. So that's kind of, they're coming from very different places

is what I'm getting at. She's like kind of lifelong trash. Well, it sounds like they came from the same. I'm not saying she's trash. I'm saying that's what people in the area consider her family. And that's what happens a lot, too. Shit will deteriorate

if one generation goes off the skids it kind of screws everything up here and they may have come from very similar backgrounds but he fucking got 600 bucks yeah and was smart and she didn't well that's the thing her family actually like her great-grandfather at the same that's why i put those two stories in parallel because his father and her great-grandfather came up at the same time and one of them his father was you know way more humble of education and that sort of thing and he ended up taking 600 bucks and turning it into being a millionaire whereas her great-grandfather was very celebrated he's magna cum laude at Notre Dame I don't know what that means it means he was one of the smarter

kids in class he was very fucking smart is what it means. And when he comes, it's like a cannon all over the place. Jizz everywhere. So he's got a jizz cannon. That's what that means. Head jizz cannon at Notre Dame. He gets to walk across that podium and just shoot that jizz cannon all over everybody. It turns to confetti in the air.

That's how high it goes. the atmosphere freezes it like snow so uh that's what's going on here and then this so she that's a very good base of a family from the same time and and they've deteriorated into trash over the years according to everybody whereas his family has gone up okay so we they kind of crossed in about right at the war got it the war was a really big world war ii when you look at shit was a really big evening out thing for people like great equalizer it was a huge thank you yeah it was a great equalizer of of people culturally like you could people would come back from the war and their experience in the war would send them to different places because also psychologically everybody was in a different place so it kind of shook things up a little bit okay

the war a lot of people yeah well that was later but that's a war yeah it's a war but you know what i mean yeah world war ii right but jordan her parents get divorced when she's very young her parents are divorced and they were not financially well off to begin with. And then they get divorced and they're even poorer. Both parents are poor separately. Half of nothing. Half of nothing is nothing. It's half of shit.

So her mother marries another guy who happens to be also poor. That's also why. Why bother? Double zero. Why bother? So they lived in Nampa, which is outside of boise and on the snap episode like three different people described it as a trashy area basically i'm not saying that but they were like it's kind of the trashier area you know there's a lot of trailer homes and that

sort of thing it's one of those it's it's not a great area apparently at the time she was growing up here all of her friends said she's very outgoing and happy, and she's not shy at all. She meets this guy named Burke, this kid named Burke. I will say not a guy. He's a kid at 10 when she meets him. They're both 10 years old, and they tell a story of they're at this birthday party, and she wants to give him a kiss. That's her birthday wish. And he says no and ends up kissing her best friend at some point oh and so yeah so burn burn so she was a little bit upset about that but she went on like

that's what i mean she was a resilient kid she's a very tall girl also which is also i know a thing with with women is just like it is with guys because i'm a tall guy and i'm not if your height it's a it's a psychological thing. It's weird. But for men, height is desired a lot of the time. Well, it also signifies power and strength and all that stuff.

You're generally not embarrassed, but I know tons of girls because my daughter's like 5'8", which is a little bit taller, and I told her for years, stand up straight. Don't be, because girls will slouch

if they're taller than other girls. It's weird. And some girls, not every girl, but some girls do that. Some girls put on fucking heels when they're younger. They don't even care. And some, they grow up to be very some girl not every girl but some girls do that some girls put on fucking heels hell yeah when they're younger they don't even care and some they grow up to be very confident or whatever some tall girls fucking throw them on too and that's what i mean yeah

they don't care they're like shit i'm six one why can't i be six four fuck it yeah go for it but some girls when they're taller as younger they kind of get like this this thing where you see them kind of they don't want to be so tall, they don't want to stand out. But she has no problem with it. She's six feet tall, which is super tall for a girl when she's young, you know, a young girl. And she's pretty and very bubbly and very happy. So people tend to like her. Everybody thought she's cool and nice,

but a lot of the other kids that she went to school with were of higher economic status you know, status. And so they kind of all the parents would be like, yeah, but she's trash. You don't hang out with her. You know, like it's if you run into her at a birthday party, that's fine. But now, like, you know, I'm not you're not sleeping at her trailer tonight. I'll tell you that much now. Yeah, it was very much.

And they got to pack that big ass girl into a trailer. That's tough. That's tough. So, yeah. So the the Brian's daughter here, Megan, that was texting him all the time, said, quote, she came from nothing. No money, no wealth. She was what society would consider trailer trash.

So that's her. That's her kind of death for her assessment of Jordan. I guess you put that shit into a news article. She said that shit on camera i watched her face say it on oxygen or whatever channel that's on that's right we would call trailer i wrote that down word for word hearing it in the snaps documentary snapped thing on that's words that came out of her mouth unbelievable yeah so that's interesting here. I understand that anybody who's paid attention to the media would have to come to the conclusion that I killed my wife.

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She graduates high school in 2009. Now, September of 2012, here, this is kind of a few months before we get started, she ends up talking talking to on facebook the uh fucking social media god damn it it's a problem yeah on facebook she finds that burke guy that she wanted to kiss when she was 10 yeah so this burke dude says that you know he's just on facebook in 2012 like people were in 2012 and uh says that just somebody named jordan started liking all of his pictures. And he's like, who the fuck is this?

And he hadn't talked to her. And, you know, they went to school there, but they lost touch. They weren't really friends anymore. They were in different social circles. It's kind of a rich preppy kid at the time. But she wasn't. So, you know, he's like, who is this? And then she clicks on.

He goes, oh, I remember that girl. I remember that name. And then he starts looking at her pictures and he's like, holy shit. Whoops. A daisy. I blew it. He goes, wow. So now that girl. I remember that name. And then he starts looking at her pictures and he's like, holy shit. Whoops a daisy. I blew it. He goes, wow. So now she's hot and he's interested.

And he said, quote, she's gorgeous. She really grew into herself. So he's like, she was gorgeous. He was like, holy shit. Hugging to Facebook. Yeah, it's fucking ridiculous. And of course, I don't know. Do girls get messages?

Probably. Do women. Do you get messages from guys you went to high school with? Of course. They try to talk to you because girls do that. I have gotten a fuck ton of messages on Facebook. Really? From high school. Really?

Oh my God. In the last fucking four years? Yeah. Yeah, a lot. That's impressive. Weird since this has started. It's funny that people find you. Oh, look at that.

Hey, how you doing, James? Yeah, you were really cool, right? Yeah. Still got weed. That's impressive. Weird since this has started. It's funny that people find you. Oh, look at that. Hey, how you doing, James? Yeah, you were really cool, right? Yeah, yeah. Still got weight. Interesting, yeah. Funny, right? Yeah, you didn't care about me five years ago. I think I did a pretty good job distancing myself from them when I made fun of them all

for going to their reunion. I'm never going to one of those ever. Yeah, I'm not going to hang out with those people. And I think I got unfriended by a few. I hope, because I don't want to... I'm going to pay money for that. If you listen to this and I went to high school with you, I don't want to hang out with those people. And I think I got unfriended by a few. I hope, because I don't want to... I'm going to pay money for that. If you listen to this and I went to high school with you, I don't want to see you unless you tattoo me. That's it.

Well, yeah, if I liked you and just haven't talked to you, fine. But there's not a lot of those people out there. So who knows? Maybe. I don't want them. I'm not saying... I talked to one guy and he's my tattoo artist. That's it.

I want very few people contacting me. Especially people I know. Strangers, me. Especially people I know. Strangers, fine. But people I know, I don't want to talk to you about what's been going on in your life. I want to see those people. Oh, God. So he's into her now. So they talk for a while.

And he's like, I'm going to school. And I'm working. I'm doing this stuff. He's doing his life. He's a 21-year-old kid. He's doing all sorts of shit. She told him that, yeah, her life's going great. She's really turned it around since she's become an adult she just bought a house on the river and it's awesome she said she's a loan officer at a bank and she's been working really

hard and working her way up in the bank and got a huge promotion so she bought this big house and he's like cool want to hang out you know obviously because he's trying to hook up with this chick so these meeting stories, by the way, are so much better pre-social media. They're like bumping into someone or trance encounter or two of them. But this was like, yeah, she was liking my pics, so I messaged her and I was like, what's up?

And then we like hooked up and shit. Like, that's a terrible, that's what you're going to tell your grandkids? Yeah, I was like scrolling, looking at chicks, you know? And like, she was just like fucking look pretty hot. Like there's a picture. That's what it is. You can kind of see her ass in one of them. So I was like,, looking at chicks, you know, and like she was just like fucking look pretty hot. Like there's a picture. That's what it is. You can kind of see her ass in one of them.

So I was like, sup? And then she was like nothing. Then we like, you know, ate some Panda Express. And then here you are, you little fucker. It's a great story. Riveting. We watched a little Stranger Things. Yeah, you know.

One thing led to another. Fucking hooked her up and shit. And I was like, I don't want it to be like Handmaid's Tale neither, baby. You know what I'm saying? It's cool. And I left it in a raw dog and welcome to the party look at you little tyler all right little truman little truman coming at you so welcome to the party thurman because i couldn't remember that movie i love it wouldn't that be great if heman because i couldn't remember that movie i love it the thurman wouldn't that be great if he's like i named him after that movie the thurman thurman

show it was the truman show fuck yeah is it fuck it costs money to change it now huh damn it fuck i'm gonna have to mail something that would be my luck shit so they meet at a mall at lunchtime that so you know that's very like they're 21 yeah let's meet at the mall at lunchtime and it's a safe easy maybe we don't like each other that's a good setup yeah so apparently they you know eat a cup i don't know what chick-fil-a panda express whatever they got the sabaro yeah who knows you know there's a sabaro there serve it so uh she was like he said she was real like kind of fun. Like she was like, because it was September. She's like, let's go try on the Halloween costumes at the Halloween store.

Let's go fuck around. She runs away. It's September. Fucking ease up. I would have been like, what? Why? What are you talking about? Why?

This is six weeks. You going trick or treating or something? Fucking what are we doing? You buy it now, it's full price. What the fuck are you talking about? Yeah, that's why. Let them roped in to go into whatever it is that we're going to yeah now i got this costume that i don't that's why i like sarah if i if i said let's go try on halloween costumes in

september she'd go for what and i go i don't know why never mind cool and they're absolutely right you're right that's why we're perfect why never mind what are you a child sour diesel yeah that's better yeah let's go in here this is better so he says burke here he says quote the second you meet her you're just drawn to her as beautiful women are often said about yeah you never hear it's like you know she's super hot but didn't really care for that you'll hear women say that about men he's it was he was really handsome and everything but he was a total jerk and blah blah you never hear guys say that never because they don't even notice what the woman was doing she was so hot yeah but what's she like did you fucking hear me she's super nice i mean i didn't see her club that puppy i mean i heard

it happen but i was i heard the yelps but i saw her tits jigger and i didn't that's how dumb we are we're just like we don't see it. I don't see it. I don't know. She had blood on her. I know. But she just said it was rain and blood. I said, OK, blood on her.

Where was it? On her cleavage. Yeah. I was staring at her tits. Exactly. That's all I saw. This guy is pretty much like that. Like he has basically no whatever this girl tells him he just goes all right he just

does the shrug all right and just whatever he's the king of all right this guy it's amazing this is burke this is burke okay so uh a friend also a friend of hers called her impossible not to like very upbeat personality apparently right after this they start talking and really getting into a relationship very quickly uh burke and jordan do they talk they hang out every day they're doing stuff they hang out after work and they do all this type of shit she would help him study you know which would mean they would just hook up yeah and they would study and you know when you're at that age i'd help him study i'd give him motivation to study by blowing him and leaving you know we've all seen billy madison

take the shirt off that's correct yeah so they'd all go party with friends too that was the other thing so she kind of got looped into his social circle and she had friends too and then so he kind of came a bigger social circle and this was a social circle she hasn't been in so she's very excited that these are she's got the friends she wanted now that are you know better than her shitty friends that she had before and she still has her shitty friends, too. Weird thing is they hook up for a while and they're always hanging out at his place, his apartment, all the time, all the time. Finally, he goes, why don't we ever go to your house? You said you bought a house on the river.

That sounds like cooler than my apartment. We should go there. It sounds awesome. Like, what the fuck? And she was like, listen, listen and we'll have to tell you this because it's it's super sad and i don't want to bum you out but um you can't come over my house now because my mom's going through chemo and she's really in bad shape and she doesn't really want anybody there to kind of see her like that and you know you know it goes in that condition he's like

is that sick bitch on your bed i didn't think so so. To the bat cave, bitch. Let's go. But no, he doesn't say that. And that's an understandable excuse. I mean, he said, holy crap, I felt terrible. You know, nobody. That's this poor girl. Yeah. She's what her mom's going through.

Yeah. Your mom's sick. Let me rub your feet. Yeah. Well, her mom. She's not. She's still doing her life. She's not the one with cancer. I still feel bad for her.

Go rub cancer foot. That's what you got to go rub over there uh so he believed her because she was hot and uh that's so likable he kept going back to it too he's like you know and then she's just so beautiful like he was it's amazing you gotta see this it's so funny so he believed her oh men are men are so dumb. We're so, it's insane. He's blinded by pussy. If it's amazing, you will, who gives a fuck what she says? I plug my ears. I don't even listen.

I heard the yelps, but I didn't see the club swinging exactly. I don't know. I thought I saw brain matter. Her tits jiggled. That's what I saw. So she meets his family. He doesn't I saw. So she meets his family. He doesn't meet hers, but she meets his family, and they like her right away. They're like, oh, you found it.

Here she is, a great girl. She says she's doing well, and she's a loan officer in the bank, and she's beautiful, and she's outgoing. This is terrific. So everything's going great. Finally, mid-October, around October 16th, October 17th, in that range, she finally invites him over to the house. Oh. The house, he pulls up, and he's like, this is like a place.

This is amazing. No, it's really nice. It's like a retirement-ish area around this river. They're technically trailers, but they're not your typical trailers. It's weird. There's no foundation. Like I said, they're like manufactured homes, technically a trailer, but they're like extra huge and all hooked up.

His place has like a hot tub and a big patio with all outdoor shit. Her place. Yeah. What did I say? Yeah. There's a hot door outdoor thing the whole deal it's a you know that this sort of shit it's it's a weird like she's like what the fuck is going on here like he's like this is like a family it's like where my family would live it's a weird

place for a 21 year old to have a her own place a place yeah it's not not a typical trailer not a shit bucket in sight is what i'm getting at here. And then he goes in. Nice furniture, like leather couches and like not carpeting, like thick rugs. Like you buy like. Nice ones. Yeah. Like 21 year old people usually don't go buy a Persian rug. It's just not. It's an odd purchase for a kid.

They don't think that they go. There's a carpet on the floor. Fuck. Do I need a rug for not your typical trailer? I need extra padding. Yeah. Fucking bare feet. What's going on here?

So it's a big deal. So he's like, well, sweet. I mean, this is cool. It's weird that you have this, but that's cool. Outside, he sees that she has a Hummer, a BMW, a Porsche, a boat, a motorcycle, all these different vehicles. And he's like, there's like $300,000 worth of vehicles in the driveway, like in the garage. What the hell is going on? And so she says her, you know, how do you have all this money?

You're 21. You couldn't have worked at the bank for that long. What's going on? Are you embezzling from the bank? Loan officers kill it just to yourself. You're loaning money to buy all this shit. I'm a loan officer. So I approved all this at a very low interest rate fantastic i can afford it she tells him that her parents

were divorced when she was very young and their father wasn't around a lot when she was a kid and has recently come back into her life and is now a millionaire yeah in the time that he disappeared into the time of now he was a huge success and came into a bunch of money and he feels terrible they usually do and yeah she said she told him that he could never give her a good childhood so now he gives her everything that he can i'll give you the best adulthood the best adulthood possible because now i can afford it now i can do this and you know i've turned my life around and i'm going to share it with my my beloved little girl and i'm going to buy her a portion of boat and a motorcycle for some reason burke didn't believe the shit well um he does all this he hears all that and she's like

okay and so he says but why did he buy you all this stuff it's you don't even ride a motorcycle and she she says well the father gave her the money to buy the house, the furniture, everything, the cars, everything all came at once in a package deal from a guy who had to leave the country immediately to take care of his sick parents in Europe. Why is everybody's parents? They're so sick. So they're so fucking ill. So it was a sudden illness with his parents. So he had to go to Europe and move back there and take care of them full time. And that was that.

He had to sell all his shit immediately done. And so we bought everything for a sick price package deal. And he looks at her and watches her tits bounce and shrugs and says, all right. No. All right. What the fuck? That's cool. That's cool.

Yeah. All right. Yeah. It makes sense. See how great. All right. See how great all right see how great it is so so he just drops his zipper down and goes so you're gonna blow me here so we're

going what now here or are we going in the hot tub which one so god he's dumb all of the friends start partying over there this becomes party central they all live in apartments they're 21 years old you live in a shit apartment with a community pool. She's got a backyard with a hot tub and a big screen TV. 75-inch TV in 2012 was great. It's crazy. It's great now. It's insane now.

Then it was rare. Now they have them at Best Buy. They're less than $2,800. Not even, I don't think. I don't know. My TV's not that big anymore. Well, the nice ones. The top-of-the-line Samsung's like $2,800. Not even, I don't think. Are they that much? I don't know. My TV's not that big. Well, the nice ones. Like the top of the line Samsung's like $2,800.

I don't shop for electronics much, apparently. Well, at Best Buy. Either way. Here, in 2012, that was a 75-inch flat screen is a huge deal back then. That's a lot of TV. So they all start partying. Also over there, they're drinking tons of booze they're smoking tons of weed they're doing shit loads of ecstasy every night they're fucking partying down i mean there's

always food pizza flying around and everything all paid for by jordan really jordan is shelling out for no one ever gives any money she just gives money to people go get drugs wow go get booze go get fucking pizza go get booze go get fucking pizza go get weed go get whatever and they come back with it he talks about burke said she bought three thousand dollars worth of ecstasy at one time what so she handed somebody three grand in cash and they got ecstasy for took a glad bag of fucking ecstasy pills that's a shitload of ecstasy and that was just for the parties that's's for everybody. For everybody. That was community ecstasy. But she had all this cash to throw away. It's probably like a tube sock full.

It's still a lot. It's a lot of ecstasy. You could probably, that's a really good party. That's going to be quite the party come 3 a.m. Let me say that. Whoa, shit is popping. So her friends, all of her friends say they basically lived there. They were all just basically crashing there all the time, you know, in a certain amount.

Everybody crashed there a couple days a week at least. It was one of those things. You'd be too fucked up to leave and just hang out. Burke moved in, actually moved in. Well, yeah, because he's a girlfriend. Yeah. And he's like, all right, this sounds like a good thing. So he said he moves into the house and he's there like a week.

And it's just weird because she never goes to work. She's supposed to be a loan officer at a bank they usually work monday through friday and get up at nine and go but she never did she just got up and partied with everybody and did drugs and ate food and shit so he's like what i don't understand how do you party all the time and not work she said no you don't understand i'm on a paid vacation right now i took took a couple weeks off, and so I'm enjoying myself. I'm fucking throwing down and partying. So he's like, this is weird. He says, this is an amazing quote, by the way.

This is an exact quote from Burke at this point. He says, quote, it was like she has all these cars. She's got all this cash. She's gorgeous. She's a porn star, right? I mean, that's what i thought literally the exact inflection and the exact fucking that was that that was my small town murder theater that's exactly how he sounded she's a porn star right i mean that's what i thought he did like with this shrug he goes that's what i thought like that's it's like

he was giving the clues to the news person. He's like, take out all those cards, all these money, she never works. What do you think? Yeah. Porn star, right? Porn star, right? Yeah, he's a porn star, right? Not what I thought, by the way.

It wasn't the first thing I thought at all. No, mine either. Who the fuck knows what she's doing? I don't know. I was going with drug dealer or like didn't want everybody to know she's a drug dealer, so she's paying people to go get drugs. Maybe she's one of those ladies that doctor reps that bring drugs into the pharmaceutical reps maybe she's one of those who knows they're killers and they're fucking they make a fortune uh which means

she fucks like a maniac too if he thought she was a right making a living on that so i'm starting to understand why you believe why she fucking believed her because didn't put that in because he didn't want to be like calling her a whore on TV or something. He was like, wink, wink. You know what I mean. That's what I thought. And he looked like, you know what I'm saying, bro? Dude running the camera knows what I'm saying, right? High five.

High five, dude running the fucking camera. Never mind this fucking broad interviewing me. We don't need a shit from her. It's me and you, buddy. Me and you. That's what he was doing. Like being a real frat boy about she doesn't know what i mean you know what i'm talking about pow all over the face you know what's up and they're like no no it's like oh i think i just embarrassed can we cut that part can we just leave ended it that's what i

thought right and i'll shrug and then we'll just go okay okay well we're back all right good good so he's like ah he just goes uh yeah so what you make three million a year at a bank and you never actually have to go to work awesome let's fuck this is great what a what he actually did was he shrugged and went all right porn star not all right whatever i'll see how this plays out fucking idiot so the end of october comes the last couple days of october it's the daytime and burke looks out the window he hears a car door and he looks out the window and he sees the next door neighbors who are an older couple they're like in their 60s or 70s and they're getting their groceries out of their car just went grocery shopping so he goes outside because he says fuck we have parties here every night

these are next to our neighbors we gotta apologize i should probably make friends with them and be like hey if you ever need to call don't feel feel free to say turn it down and we'll you know don't call the cops exactly here's a couple tabs ecstasy you know i'm brian see you don't call the cops on someone whose name you know you know that guy next door i'm brian now you just call me up you go hey brian it's loud and i fix it see it's all good you're doing your sixes burke it's burke it's burke burke is a much nicer guy it is because brian's the guy brian's the guy from before yeah but they're both b names so it's very fucking confusing so but brian barton brian barton that's fucking eddie's yeah so yeah anyway

it's too many b's so burke goes outside and he's like you know hey guys uh how you doing i'm burke uh you know i live here now with my girlfriend and you know sorry we really apologize we we kind of partied up we're young we have friends and you know we're just my girlfriend's on vacation for a couple weeks so we were just kind of partying it up and we'll try to keep it down from now on and he said they were rude yeah his neighbors were rude to him they were like kind of like brushing him off a little bit and he was like okay like he didn't understand it he was just trying to be friendly and neighborly problem and then they ask him they go can we ask you a question and then he goes yeah and they go where's brian yeah and he goes who the fuck is brian yeah because he doesn't know who brian is he's never heard of brian he says i don't know who that is and they

said you don't know the owner of the house you're living in and he said oh the do you mean the guy oh the guy who had to leave the country yeah he sold my he had to leave the country his parents were sick he had to leave the country so he my girlfriend bought all this shit from him and so that's probably why he left like one day he was here next day he left so that would be understandable and they were like you don't find that odd and he goes wait a minute actually they said to him an old lady said to him that may be what your girlfriend told you but we don't believe her oh it's what they said so this is that old lady ain't trying to fuck jordan no that's she doesn't give a shit about jordan's ass shaking whatsoever in this thing that's matter of fact she fucking hates yeah

she does not enjoy it the old man's like you let her stay a while i'm gonna trim those trees in the backyard though so i get a better view of that hot tub let's just see how it edna we'll see how it fucking pans out can you just calm down with your accusations i'll put the coke on your tits in a minute. She pulled the same shit with the other. You know how it works. So she goes back and he talks to Jordan and he goes, hey, talk to the neighbors. And they said, you're full of shit. And then like none of that stuff you said happened happened.

And he said, she says, oh, you talk to the neck, the older couple. And he said, yeah, the ones right next door the older couple and he said yeah the one's right next door and she goes it's so sad they have dementia she's like they are she goes he is good she goes i have i have uh you know she said brian is the name of the old owner that's the guy i bought it from so they remembered that she said but i've she said i've talked to them a dozen times and every time they don't remember me. He goes, they have dementia. They only remember that guy because he lived here for years, but they don't know me, and it's sad. She goes, but, you know, whatever.

It's just, you know, be nice to them. They're old people. And he stands there, and he thinks about it for a minute, and then he shrugs, and he says, all right. Cool. Because she just got out of the shower and she was naked explaining this sounds good yeah i don't know that's it's logical to me i mean you know you know what i mean right camera guy can i get it no fuck so november 2nd 2012 comes around that date sound familiar that's the day to the runaway there uh burke and jordan are out yeah but they have a bunch

of friends at the house as always partying it's just kind of a ongoing 24 7 party house and there's groups of people that come and go but there's a bunch there a man walks in the back door yeah and just pops in that back door not doesn't knock just opens it and asks what the fuck you people are doing here uh they ask what are you doing this is my father's house why are you people in my father's house and they said i don't know who the fuck you are but this is jordan's house this ain't father's house you might have the wrong house what the fuck's up with you he says my father's brian gettys this is his fucking house this is his furniture his cars are outside he lives here and i haven't heard from him where the fuck is he and who the hell are you people yeah so they

they say you know the kids are like i don't. So they say, you know, the kids are like, I don't fucking know. There's a bunch of shoulder shrugging going on. A lot of dicks popped out of mouth for explanation. Okay. Ecstasy pills everywhere. So he sees he's not getting anywhere. So he leaves. Yeah.

They just hear it's Jordan's house. So he takes off because he doesn't know what's going on and he doesn't want to assume something. And so he takes off. You know, he he asks uh he asks everybody you know he calls the sister and says what the fuck's going on uh now he's told that his dad was in jackpot to celebrate his birthday the same as everybody else so he leaves calls the sister tells her there's a bunch of kids at dad's dad's house and some young chick was driving his fucking car yeah it's just as she's leaving. Jordan's he's leaving.

Jordan's pulling in in his car. So she's like, what's up with that? Now, Jordan, the friends tell her some guy came burst in the house and said that, you know, this is not your house and all this type of shit. And she said that her friends all said that Jordan got real scared and everything, but didn't want to go to the cops. And the friends don't get it. They're like, what the fuck's going, but didn't want to go to the cops. And the friends don't get it. They're like, what the fuck's going on? Why won't you go to the cops? Because there's ecstasy everywhere.

What's happening? And she's like, I can't. And she's like, there's stuff you don't know. So why is she at this fucking house? That's the question. We've established this is Brian's house. And why is she fucking there? Well, they met in mid-August, apparently.

He has a dog and he's walking the dog on the walking trail near his house. There's a trail that goes down the river and all that. It's a nice place to live. So he was walking the dog, and she was also walking on this trail, probably because she doesn't have a car. She's probably using it literally as a shortcut. She's getting home. Because she doesn't. Yeah, seriously.

And so they walked by and had talked to each other. She had pet his dog. She likes dogs dogs as we'll find out later on the fuck doesn't how do you not they're amazing great they fucking love you so she was petting the dog and they were talking and she he said yeah no i live here yeah i live right there it was like near his house i live in this house over here you do live in the neighborhood like he was trying to be friendly he's very friendly and neighborly and she's a super attractive 21 year old girl and he's a 49 at theyear-old guy edging on 50 with a lot of money in the bank.

So he's like, can I pull this off? She's talking to me. Can I do it? Can I do this? I don't know. She likes the dog. I don't know. The dogs work.

I'm going to get two more. I could distract her with the dog. She won't even look at me. That's what I'm saying. And maybe I can say some nice things enough to fuck her. The dog can be to her what her tits are to me. I think we can just all focus on what we're interested in. Dogs are so amazing.

I pet John Oliver's dog in New York City and didn't realize I was petting that guy's dog until I looked up and was like, thanks. Yeah. Oh, thanks. I'm like, oh, my God, that's John Oliver. Thanks for the show. Because it's awesome. And your dog's great. So, yeah, Brian, then apparently about a week went by.

And then Brian tells his daughter later on that Jordan showed up one night just out of nowhere, just showed up knocking on his door. He opened the door just as an evening. And there she was. This was a few days after they met. She was covered in blood. And she said that her boyfriend just hit her and kicked her out of her place she lives close by out of this apartment and the boyfriend just beat her up and threw her out and she just has nowhere to go and she's covered in blood and she just remembered that he was there and that you know that house was

there and that's and that he seemed like a nice person she doesn't know where to go and she needs help damsel in distress damsel in distress which guy, he's like, this is my thing. Fuck yes. Fuck yeah. And he's a nice guy. And this is not even for whatever sexual purposes or anything. He's also a nice guy. And he took her right in.

He called the police right away. Oh my God, we have to call the police. We have to get you help and get you medical attention. And he was very much like going into like a fatherly role at this point. And offered her at this point a place to stay. Which is, you know, who knows what the intentions are. But that's, I'm a nice guy. I'll give this point a place to stay which is you know who knows what the intentions are but that's i'm a nice guy i'll give this girl a place to stay and who knows maybe she'll want to fuck me i mean maybe not she'll have to if she doesn't whatever she's not required hour in here at some point you know i'm gonna know she's naked in a room somewhere

that's gonna make me feel good about myself so yeah his his uh you know he offers her a place to stay she stays this is August. She was staying there. His kids came over. His son that came in and burst in the house, his daughter Megan, came and they met her. They said she was there when they came over. Brian and Jordan were out back smoking cigarettes,

hanging out together. And the kids were like, dude, the daughter was like, Dad, come on. She's too young for you. This is weird. That girl, come on. She's way. She's too young for you. This is weird. That girl is extremely young.

She's way younger than she's half my age, basically, for Christ's sake. She's too young for you. You're 50. Come on, man. Like, I know that you want to whatever, but this is not going to work out, you know, to stay away. And he says, we're not dating at all. He says she came over.

She pays me rent. You know, that sort of thing. It's all it is. Like like it's not a big deal you know like helping her move from one place to another and she's nice we get along it's not a big deal we're not doing anything so you know that's that so that's what ended up that happening and then so anyway back to the present back to november 2nd sister knocking on the door jordan tells her uh jordan tells to go away. Go away. I don't know who you are. She said, you know me. I met you.

This is my father's fucking house. Then they ask where their dad is. When they mention Brian's name, she gets a little flustered and she has nothing to say. And she just literally runs between them out the door and down the walking path as fast as she can run. So they're like, OK, that was an odd odd i don't think that was her plan all along here so they go to the police they're like all right this is getting ridiculous we're going to the police like this is crazy so they go to the police the police come they just secure the house they don't have a warrant or anything so they just secure the house they say we're just going to

lock this fucking house down for now okay until we figure out what the hell's going on obtain all the evidence. Yes. The most that we can get. Absolutely. They also the police force. I got to give them a lot of credit here because they were really doing their homework. They actually they actually called every casino in jackpot, every hospital in jackpot, all the hotels to make sure that Brian has not been checked in there recently. Because just to make sure that that story, you got to discount the stories.

Absolutely. So that's the story they heard that the daughter said this is the only story i have and they said brian has not been in jackpot in the last month at all there's no if he has he didn't check in anywhere he didn't stay anywhere no one's ever heard of him that was either a really long phone bunch of phone calls or it took 20 minutes that's what i mean that's probably not a lot but if you stayed in a place like jackpot for a month and you were slinging money around, everyone would remember you. That's that great guy from Idaho. Yeah, he's great.

When's he coming back? Because no one else has any money. So, yeah, she runs out. They check everything. And they search the area for Jordan. They're like, she's on foot, so she's not going to get too far. They search around. They end up saying, you know what? area for jordan they're like she's on foot so she's not going to get too far uh they search around uh they end up saying you know what let's take a chance here because uh we don't we don't

know where brian's cell phone is let's see where a cell phone is let's trace it and see where the pings go so it the it ends up being traced to a walmart that's like right up the road from this area here and it's in there So the police officers circle around. They're looking for Brian. Because they think maybe Brian's got the phone. What they end up finding, though, is Jordan with Brian's phone hiding in a car in the Walmart parking lot. Oh, Jesus.

And the police, when they came over to the car, she tried to act like she didn't hear him. She was like, oh, no. She was like, I'm not a person who was wanted by the police. She tried to act real casual about it. Playing Candy Crush on the phone. Yeah, and she's like, I'm not a person who was wanted by the police. She tried to act real casual about it. Playing Candy Crush on the phone. Yeah, and she's like, what? No, I don't want any cookies or candy bars.

Quit ignoring that phone call. That's us. That's Dickhead. That's us. We're calling you. Yeah, stupid. So she's hiding in a car in a Walmart parking lot, which is not a glamorous end to your criminal reign here.

So the cops talk to her, and she tells them a simple story. She says, I live in the house. Yeah. He says, I could move in. I had nowhere to go. I came to his house. She said, you could move in.

It's beneficial to him. He wants to travel more. He said he was tired of working every day. He wants to travel more. And she's there so she can take care of his dog, keep the dog, walk it, make sure it's all right, take care of his house, water his fucking plants plants make sure his cars are all safe and all that

it's fucking trashed yeah house sitter that's what she's saying she said that's my job he goes off and you know this is why i live there i don't know i don't understand it uh she said he told her that he wants to enjoy life more and that was that okay she says though i haven't heard from him either so i'm worried too you know this is not like him he's just he's disappeared he hasn't told me anything so they said well what could it be what could this possibly be where could he be and she said well i didn't want to say this because you know i don't want to besmirch anybody's character and i like him and you know we do this together a little bit but uh brian is deep into selling drugs. Oh, he's deep. He's deep in the game, and he's got a lot of enemies.

This is just Breaking Bad right now. It's Breaking Bad, except if the guy was already independently wealthy from several businesses that he started on his own, which that show would have been irrelevant at that point. If they told him he had cancer and all that, he would have just been like, all right, lucky I have a lot of money in the bank. All right, well, I'm going to do my best. Pray for me, Doc. Okay. And he would have just been like, all right, lucky I have a lot of money in the bank. All right, well. I can fight this. I'm going to do my best. Pray for me, Doc. Okay. And he would have left.

And that's the show. It would have been very fucking boring. It would have been him writing checks the whole time. Paying co-pays. I'm going to dip into my 401k, I guess, for this one. Because, you know, like, still might have been sick, but he wouldn't have had to start making meth. Right. So anyway, he's got enemies.

She says he has a, you know, she has a bunch of drugs, you know, on her at the house. They're all his. All these drugs she has, too. They're just, he's got so much drugs, it's spilling out everywhere. And I have to carry some around with me

because I don't have room for them. I just take handfuls when I leave the house so you can open the door. Otherwise, it just pours out like snow in a cartoon. And the cops are not trying to fuck her, so they're like, can you get out and put your hands behind your back? Yeah, let's do that.

Now, they also look at it and they go, okay, they know who he is by now. They know he's got a good business. He's well-respected, well-liked, and has no criminal record. So it's not like he's, oh, well, he did get busted for selling coke in 89 like there's none of that shit he's just been this businessman that's been upstanding as far as they know anyway she tells them a story about one time she was with him at

that very same walmart parking lot they busted her at and uh brian got into uh this truck with a drug dealer to get it he was buying a huge bag of weeds. Pounds. Tractor trailer. Just a fucking bale of it. And she said that Brian came back with the weed. He jumped in the truck, jumped in the car with the bag of weed, and he was really scared. He said the deal went down bad. It went down sideways, and Brian was super scared of this guy, and they needed to fucking lay low.

But he had the weed? But he had the weed. he just took it and was like no fuck that we had we agreed on this and i'm just taking it okay so it was like he had to stand his ground but it went bad okay so we gotta watch out for the comeback now omar coming yeah you know what i'm saying it's it's no you don't know so she said brian was just scared of this guy he was looking out the blinds all the time waiting for this guy to come for her come for him cops are suspicious based on no evidence or prior you know any any kind of anything of this doesn't sound right doesn't sound right no one else says oh yeah and he sells shit loads of drugs like that never came up so she tells him after he disappeared this is what

she tells the cop she's like as a matter of fact after he disappeared this is why i'm so scared as you can obviously put yourself in my shoes and you know put yourself in my high heels chief you know she says after he disappeared this drug dealer came and found her when she was walking out of the house going to the driveway and put a gun to her head and threatened her that if she said anything about Brian and him, you know, cooking up with a drug deal or any drug deal gone bad or that they even fucking know each other, that he will come back and fucking kill her.

Not just her, her whole family, all of her friends, everybody she's ever met. Babies that haven't been born yet will be slain by this man do you understand the threats that he's taking down how many people have been in his house that's a lot of people everyone yeah well he's gonna be a busy guy but he sounds committed i mean if he's really this after the fact he's going and you know staking her out why not so threatened her and you know oh there's just it was it was terrible so she said obviously as you can see i'm just as worried as you.

Tell you what, though, you find that drug dealer. I think you found Brian. Tell you that right now. Oh, yeah. I'm going to get going now. We're good. I got to run. I got to run. The cops are like, hold on a second, though.

They have Burke in the next interrogation room and they're telling him the truth about everything. And, you know, they're telling him the family's there going, you know, that's not what happened. All that's his shit. He just disappeared. We haven't heard from him and he's like whoa this is fucked first he's like no no no no like he tries to defend her at first and then he's like she's my sex kid come on man so nice she's so fucking hot she's gonna ruin my life you're telling me she's fucking no bad okay well tell you what let's how bad how bad how long you think she's going to be in prison for let's just put it that way what was it can you give me an agent can she keep it tight yeah that's what i'd like is there do you have that are you capable of

that technology here at the police station can you give me prison life expectancy oh man so the cops tell him what's up he's all fucked up over it once they talk him in no actually what happened so they ask burke will you do us a favor which this is actually if he doesn't if he doesn't ask specific questions this is sort of legal but otherwise you're using an outside person as an agent of the law and you can't really do that so it's a it's a weird way around miranda too even though she's been miranda she hasn't been miranda's for some other fucking guy it's a weird way around miranda to get somebody to admit to something through somebody else got it it's a weird thing so but they end up doing it in a way where this would

have been legal but they bring in burke and they try to get her to him to tell the tell get her to tell the truth they send him into the room and all he does is just tell me the truth that's all he says so there's no if he asked her specific questions that's when it's like none of that shit is okay so she cries her eyes out at this cries her eyes out cries her eyes out and gives us another story that we'll get into in a second here now at this point they're like okay we're not letting her go anywhere because she also has three active arrest warrants going on for her including two for missing court hearings for an unrelated charge of felony grand theft and misdemeanor assault, domestic violence. She's a bad bitch.

She had another guy that she had an issue with where she actually was the aggressor. Yeah, she was the she was the person with a restraining order on her and she was the one who got arrested for beating some guy up and attacking him and some shit. So court records show the grand theft charge uh ended up not and going anywhere here but she eventually uh pleaded guilty to disturbing the peace in a charge in connection with the domestic violence case she attacked her boyfriend it wasn't brian getty some other guy this was back in april uh she attacked him after they argued because he wanted her to sell her dog to pay their bills, which is

a good argument to have. You say, I'm not selling my fucking dog to pay our guy. Go sell plasma. I'm not selling the dog. But how broke are they, too? Because you got to be like, look, your dog. Yeah, that's your dog's worth money. And it's costing me money that I don't have.

If you can't afford to feed the dog, get rid of it. Let's get a little bit of money. That's something. Let's move on. Yes. We're not going to sell it to a fucking fighting ring and make it feed the dog. Let's get rid of it. Let's get it a home and get a little bit of money for it. That's something. Let's move on. We're not going to sell it to a fucking fighting ring and make it a baked dog. I'm just saying let's get her a fucking home. I'm going to sell it to the first guy with a fucking open pickup truck. I'm not looking for DMX tomorrow.

I just want to get him a home. Just a home where he has food. Fuck Michael Vick. Maybe he gets pet. So she was living with his boyfriend at the time, and it was a few blocks away from Brian Getty's home. So that's how this all ended up happening. Yeah. How she ended up there.

So apparently that's how they held her was on a failure to appear on these things. Now, her third story, she says, okay, here's what happened. And this is the real thing that happened. This is okay. She said, I was involved with this. Okay. But it's not what you think. Yeah.

Obviously. She said, I was giving him a back rub on his bed. Okay. It's in the master bed. Master bedroom. I was giving him a back rub. He was sitting up and I was sitting behind him, giving him a back rub. She said, and he asked and she asked her her she asked him to fix her handgun she said i had a

handgun that i got from a friend which by the way turns out to be a stolen gun i had a handgun that i got from a friend and it was just something was wrong with it so i know he knows about guns because he's hunts and stuff so i gave him this gun and i was like will you check this out for me and see what the hell's wrong with this gun and it's stuck and she said that he just you know did it and it wasn't stuck at all and he said no it's fine here it's stuck and she said that he just you know did it and it wasn't stuck at all and he said no it's fine here take it back and she said he she says as he was handing it back because she's rubbing his back she said he hands it back over her his shoulder as she was grabbing it it went off and shot him in the back of the head what a story shot him in

the back of the head and he he died right there i mean just blew his head off and that was like she was just trying to get it to put it back in her purse right in the mid back rub she's trying to help the guy out and it's right in the head she said she freaked out yeah freaked out she said i i didn't know what to do so i just i i sat here for a minute and then i went to walmart and then they have the security footage and everything of what she did at walmart well at walmart uh which most people do if you accidentally shoot someone in the head right you know you don't call 9-1-1 i need bags and lime well no you need makeup and clothes and shit like that because that's what she bought like a bunch of bras yeah and some clothes and a

bunch of makeup and like some shampoo and shit like that's what she bought that's what she went to buy oh and also a tarp also because you're gonna need that too yeah so you know maybe she was to not look suspicious how much makeup are you putting on that you need a tarp come on lady jesus don't use just don't use the sprayer and maybe you won't need the tarp so but she you know i feel like maybe she did that to try to make it look more normal like i'm buying a bunch of stuff oh i need that tarp for that thing out back and my makeup and stuff normal walmart shit you know deodorant razors and a shovel that's what i'm thinking or but she told the police that she felt she just felt awful and

just wanted to make herself feel good so she bought things that made herself feel good because she felt so bad. So she said she went home and she rolled him up in a comforter and then rolled the comforter up in a tarp and she said she took him and she put him under the trailer. What? And that's where he still is.

What? So she tells them that. So she tells them, yeah, it's beneath the, you know how there's a skirting on the bottom of the trailer, the one that's like a stable one, like a non-trashy trailer she just tucked him behind that she tucked him behind the skirt they opened up the skirt there he was wow right there uh been

there for weeks how many people what how many people have been in that house oh my partying fucking partying it up all that he's been buried there the entire work's been banging her in there right well it's worse way to hear way to hear about the master bed we'll talk about that in a second here so they go here they do find a deceased male under the house like she said which normally people don't tell you that's where her body is and it's not uh they found a body but it was the decomposition was so bad at this point that they couldn't identify him even though it's obviously him they still had to do the uh you know dental records and all that shit so they also searched the rest of the house they find

the murder weapon the gun under the bed in the master bedroom still same gun which turns out to be stolen obviously and there is blood seeped through the mattress and box spring she just flipped the fucking mattress and then it seeped into the block spring from there so there's like a clean side on top but the other shit at the mattress you can see it like on the side on a blood stain burke was fucking her on brains unbelievable disgusting so all right this is a consequence of not paying attention what a dipshit j Jesus Christ. So see how powerful he is. How dumb we are. We're we just are just blinded by shit.

We can't see past. Has there ever been a moment where a woman has slept with a dude on a brain? Do you know what I mean? Probably not. Maybe. But that's a different for a different reason. Yeah, that was because she's terrified to leave. That's yeah.

That's some dude's doing it. Psychological abuse. This dude's like, fuck like fuck yeah she's telling him things that are obviously untrue and he's like all right yeah like maybe she's telling the truth and he oh god we're dumb he wasn't even like bringing it up with like any of their friends like hey fucking you know this is going like none of this like what do you think about this? He didn't even question it. He just kept it. He was like, it's probably cool. Like, I'm sure it's fine. What?

No, it's not. It's not fine. Holy shit. So the autopsy reports come in and they want to see if maybe she was telling the truth. Maybe this is like a glancing weird angle gunshot. That was a weird accident. They say, no, it's actually resulted in a, quote, perforating contact gunshot that was a weird accident they say no it's actually uh it resulted in a quote perforating contact gunshot wound uh pretty much gun was within an inch or two of his skull at the

time pretty much pressed right up against his skull uh the whole deal if he wasn't decomposed so bad i'm sure there would be powder burns and everything else they could go on also but they're basing it on the whatever how how a bullet goes into a skull and all that shit. So, yeah, this is wow. The prosecutors and the and the at this point in the coroner estimate that the shooting probably happened about two weeks earlier of that, they think, which it's a little more than that, actually, because it happened on the 16th. But it was so badly decomposed. It wasn't anything like that. So they were there for a missing person report and they end up finding a body which is always fun and now she she is uh she is in in custody

once they find the body they're like okay autopsy comes in not what she says right guess what here come the cuffs oh boy so now she's she's in here now the prosecutors once they do a little more investigating they find out that she also stole money from him. She spent money on tons of shit, withdrawn shitloads of cash. She's partying. She's buying things. She's giving people money. She had his cell phone for the last two weeks and was using it just like she was when she was arrested.

Still had a cell phone there. So she's charged with first degree murder at first okay that's right away they say first degree murder now in addition to first degree murder she's also going to be charged with a couple other things like robbery and theft yeah and these these thieved items include her uh brian's car home phone money personal either say well you stole all that yeah just commission of murdering. She also she took his life and then fucking took his life. That's what I mean.

Yeah. Just because she didn't physically take the house and put it somewhere else. She took possession of all of his shit. So it's the same thing. And she drove his cars. So she's charged. So it's felony grand theft, grand theft by possession of stolen property and burglary and also a shoplifting charge from

an incident that happened in september in boise town square where she stole from some store they brought that back at her that she didn't appear in court for that either so she makes her court appearance and she's a mess in this appearance she's a fucking mess she looks like she's not hot anymore no she just looks like she's been crying a lot psychologically she looks like she's a mess like she looks like she's been through the fucking ringer we'll put it that way she's been in prison for a little bit yeah like she's just yeah not had a good run of things here so family members of all of brian's family was there just at all every court process they're going to be there staring at the judge and you know make sure this shit

sticks so they originally charge her with the first degree murder but the way things go she ends up uh she ends up working a little deal here she's originally held obviously without bond she's appointed a public defender so right away if you're charged with first degree murder and you're given a public defender you're coming from a place of weakness yeah in your negotiations at this point you're working in the hole yeah it's it's not great here so as it goes through uh she uh up to october of the next year 2013 she ends up agreeing to plead guilty to second degree murder and in in exchange for this she will uh they'll dismiss all the other charges against her the burglary and all that shit and in second degree murder they'll make a deal with her and it's a a minimum the second degree

murder has a range that starts at a minimum of 10 years so and then goes up to life so that's at the discretion of the prosecutors and the judge and all that sort of shit here a hot 21 year old girl gets that deal it's that deal what do you what deal you think you get yeah i don't get that deal you think they even offer that to me if i killed some 70 year old lady and took all her shit no you're getting a fucking needle in your arm period that's it there's no even debate and everyone's like good fuck 70 a 49 year old woman about to turn 50 i plug her in the back of the head and live her life as mine i was just doing 30 years ahead of you 30 years ahead of her so

yeah i'm trying to put myself as a 21 year old if i'm if i plug a 49 year old woman in the back you're going away forever probably it's over they're not going to take second degree i would assume maybe though who knows what their docket looks like. Even the prosecutor's like, well, she's hot. And he's got to, yeah, I mean, she is hot. I mean, look at her. I like her personality is fantastic as well. What the fuck?

So they agree, and also in exchange, not only will they drop all these charges against her, they'll also agree not to seek a life sentence against her here. What the fuck? Instead, they'll recommend she serves a minimum of 20 years in prison, which is double the minimum, and her lawyer said, how about 10? Why don't we do 10? 10? We're all agreed on 10?

No? Holy shit. We're not? Shit. Why don't we split in the middle of 15? What do you say, guys? No, alright, well, whatever. Right away't we split in the middle of 15? What do you say, guys? No, all right. Well, whatever. So right away, before sentencing in November of 2013, the judge orders that she undergo psychological evaluation before sentencing, just in case here. She's previously been diagnosed, the reason why, with depression, anxiety, post-traumatic stress disorder, Tourette syndrome, and ADHD.

So she's got a host of things, but none of these things are. She's got a ton of millennial diseases. Yeah, well, except for Tourette's. That's been around for a while. And all of them are real diseases. Depression is horrible. They're all new things. They're all like, yeah, medically, people are finally like, okay, yeah, those are acceptable.

But Tourette's is a, that's Tourette's. I mean, there's no fucking way around that one. So that's not a state of mind or even anything that can be whatever. So we don't want to discount the other ones. No, they're terrible shit. And also with mental health, depression rarely makes you go fucking murder a man and then live his fucking life. That's what I that was what I was getting. I've never I'm depressed. Thank you.

And I've never had the plan to go murder a 49 year old dude and steal his life. And really, none of those things would say that. The only thing that would is if you were like a paranoid schizophrenic that had multiple personalities and you, in fact, thought you were that person in that house, that would be the only way that that would be. OK, I get what you're saying. Otherwise, Tourette's doesn't matter. No, you can yell cunt all you want

and you're still a murderer it doesn't i know that's more than that i'm just saying it's whatever so uh the prosecutors here they go to the whole thing in court and talk about how they shot him from behind and went and bought bras and then callously rolled him up and put him under his own fucking house another thing i'll say is you know what she goes out and gets it every most female murderers that we talk about i will say say, because we I think by now we can say we're a little bit of an expert in the murder field here. Most female. We're learned.

We're learned. Yeah. Who will like shoot their husband, boyfriend, whatever. They will then call someone else to help them dispose of the body based on the fact that they have a hard time lifting them and shit like that that happens all the time the janice soprano syndrome where you shoot richie april in the face now what do you do you gotta call tony it's a big dude so yeah well she's just not up to the task but this girl is like fuck that slung him over her shoulder and did the did

her business so six foot lumberjack this woman yeah no she's thin too she's like not a big yeah she's not a big girl at all jesus so uh plus like this is like an iggy azalea fucking music video it's super weird yeah this is or or a bad country music video he cheated on her down at the honky tonk and first he she slashed his tires and did all that and then she did it again he did it again so next thing you know it's under the trailer with you. So prosecutors here, they go through the whole thing. They talk about her stealing money and purchasing, just living a life like she's pretending she's living his life. Also, the way she talked to the victim's family to cover up the whole thing and everything.

They go through the whole deal. And she speaks in court to the judge. She begs for forgiveness. She says that she's sick and disgusted with herself and she feels horrible about everything and she asks the Getty's family

for forgiveness and she feels terrible and the judge says, well, you, sir, ma'am, may fuck off. That's life in prison but possibility of parole after 20.

So it's 20 to life rather than life without parole which is what the prosecutor said they would not serve the uh prosecutor said she will have to serve 20 years in prison until she is eligible and uh stick around there's a crazy thing coming by the way so she was sent to uh pocatello women's correctional facility as we talked about before yeah talked about that one her parole eligibility date is october 31st 2032 okay so a while away she's got a little bit of room around the corner though she's got some room to grow though in there so that's the one isn't isn't that the prison that the other girl

was in i believe so yeah they're both in pocahontas yeah yeah they're hanging out together well i found something i wonder if my friend's sister knows her, too. A lot of people may know her. Okay. Because we're going to find out why in a minute here. I'll show you. But yeah, maybe. You've got to find out. If she knows them both, that's going to be amazing.

I want her to know. Yeah. So she appeals right after this, and her appeal is denied right away, as most appeals are. She's appealing, which she pled. So it's odd when you appeal a plea but it happens all the time the basically she is saying that her guilty plea was entered based on the promises that were not kept which was they said they wouldn't seek a life sentence and she got 20 to life so they said what she said what the fuck that's not part of the deal and they said

yeah but we didn't say life without parole which is what we were talking about or even life with parole because then you can't get parole for fucking 40 years. So 20 is better. Parole means you just have to do fucking well for 20 years, idiot. Yeah, it's not that hard. It's not that big of a deal. Go in there and, yeah, you've learned your lesson. It's terrible.

You've already admitted it, so it's not like you have to deny it. Go in there. I feel awful. Every day has been a fucking nightmare. I just want to get out and make my way. 20 years of this shit, and then you're fucking crying every day. They'll let you out. Yeah.

I have nightmares every day. My brain's going all over the place so they say uh no they dismiss that so in 2015 i found an article about a program called the prison cell program and it's aimed at training shelter dogs at the pocatello women's correctional facility yeah uh the goal loves them Listen to this shit. The goal is to get dark-colored dogs, including black dogs, adopted. Not the fuck. I had no idea there was a racial issue with dogs.

I didn't either. But there is, apparently. In Idaho, especially, believe me, I read way more on the shelter lives of dogs in Idaho than I needed to know. Okay. But apparently a lot of these women that are trained, these are the women training themselves.

They've taught these women to do this. And they said it's everybody from, you know, minimum sentence drug offenders to murderers. Everybody's in the program. Jordan had this to say about it. Quote, when you're locked up, it's really hard to have many emotions toward people you don't know, and it's hard to get close to people, she said.

So the dogs help her is what she's getting at here. There's all these dogs. They say that the dogs are taught basic commands, sit, stay, play dead, shit like that. So that makes them more adoptable. Hey, this dog knows a couple of tricks. Well, fuck. That's good. That helps.

I don't have to teach it. Then this one's still sitting in the corner. Oh, damn it. Oh, well, it listens. Well, we'll talk about that in a second yeah so she says quote now i have a definitely have a better perspective on other people like just caring for people and more more and being more patient with people because you can give love and affection to a dog but you can get uh but you can also give that to people too she she just realized that learn that you can also give that to people, too. She just realized that you can also pet a human, and it's fine. You can also not shoot people.

I just learned that today. It's crazy, man. I'm today years old when I learned you can love people. You can love people. Amazing, isn't it? This is 2015, she said this. She's an idiot. She's not that brave.

So the dogs are housed in the prison. They sleep in kennels in the prison. So these are prison dogs now. not that great so the dogs are housed in the prison they sleep in kennels in the prisons these are prison dogs now the dog the trainer who runs this program said that black dogs are harder to get adopted they call it black dog syndrome they said it's an actual thing she said although you'll hear people oh we have black dogs and we love them there are many black dogs that are loved but if you look in the shelters the majority of dogs are black dogs or dogs of darker color. They literally said DOC, dogs of color, which I've kind of stated.

You can't. You can't. You can't. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I want all the dogs to be adopted. I really do. Of any color.

Was that a white person that said that shit? I goddamn guarantee you it was. She essentially said, I have all kinds of black friends. She said, are dogs of color? Of darker color? No. Un-fucking-believable. There's no DOC.

That is not a thing. Can you just love a dog? But apparently they have to train darker colored dogs because they need to do better than the white dogs apparently to get to the same place is what it is this is the craziest fucking fact i've ever heard it's insane she says uh this runs the woman who runs the program of course the dogs are a win-win because they go from a shelter situation they may have behavioral issues and need to be corrected to make them adoptable and people get a dog that's had eight weeks of training so everybody wins it's good for the prisoners everything's good uh dogs who are trained and then they're adopted and out from

there it's a special process the whole deal 2017 jordan has another appeal and this is the appeal of her failed appeal and this is what she's going for that they lied to her and then she's also saying that the the they the court erred in dismissing her other two claims for post post conviction relief and uh basically the best way to explain this would be this is a shitload of boring uh legal stuff that's really based on uh the listen the Idaho Supreme Court has held the reason requires requires the 21 day notice but not the subsection is because the subsection motion itself serves as a notice that the summary dismissal dismissal is being sought anybody give a fuck about that no besides the lawyers that are listening and even they're like that's boring

stuff that I don't wouldn't want to have to do the paperwork on no one cares so uh in the end they tell her to eat dicks have fun back to dog training for you uh fuck off basically they said even if we were to reverse the judgment of conviction and allow shaver to respond to the state's jesus christ res judicata argument that argument fails on the merits because Shaver's disproportionate sentence claim is the same claim that she raised in her Rule 35 motion. So put that in your pipe and smoke it. I got Mormons back to Scotland in the 1500s. I got fucking Notre Dame lumberjack people from this is too much, too much research this time. So I found something very interesting yeah speaking

of research okay and i found jordan here and i found a little program called the paper dolls do you know what this is jimmy no but it sounds fucking horrible the paper dolls is a well you know what let's just read what's on their website let's read what's on their website quote sometimes we make choices in life that are wrong and the results are life-changing that doesn't change how what let's just read what's on their website let's read what's on their website quote sometimes we make choices in life that are wrong and the results are life-changing that doesn't change how human we are how we need to be loved and cared for how long how we long for acceptance from other human beings everyone on this site is in prison some for short periods of time and others for longer these are real women with a real need for respect and dignity in a world that has

taken most of that away from them. Some of these women have families outside and some have no one to look forward to coming home to when they get out. Connections to friends in the outside world could make a difference between the incentive to stay out and given up in futility and going back to prison where they know they'll at least have their food and shelter taken care of. You can make a difference in someone's life

and possibly change their future with your letters. There's no charge to write to paper doll participants. And it says you must write through this post office and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Got it. So rule here. The site is intended to create a stable, emotional and spiritual connections to people in the outside world.

For those who are apart from society for a while, not to mistreat women in any way. You must be 18 to enter the site. Yada, yada, yada. Also, disclaimer, Paper Dolls makes no guarantees as to the claims of the women listed here. If you find any of the women listed on this site have made fraudulent claims, report them to the prison administration where they reside and email Paper Dolls with the information you have. An inmate claiming something falsely that we can verify will be added to our fraud page. Oh boy. Photos on the site may or may not be actual photos of the women who are listed.

Some prisons have no facilities to permit photos and the women have no accurate pictures of themselves to display with paper dolls. We do verify many of the photos provided with applications but cannot check them all. Non-Christian affiliated base base site no claims about religious backgrounds or any of that shit and paper dolls does not recommend sending money or other material goods to any inmates of course obviously there and so uh jordan i found her profile on here on the paper now first of all if you say this is sexist you can go fuck yourself because i have done countless male prison profile when i

find a person who's murdered someone on our show and later on they're trying to pick people up from prison i don't give a fuck i'm just doing it because that's funny sorry it's prison and it's funny so here she is uh the paper dolls presents jordan shaver says here she's listed as 28 years old auburn dark hair uh listed as white and native american she's got alaskan listed in her state thing too so her great great grandfather lived in alaska for a while i think a little she picked up some alaskan there in the gene pool while he was up there so let's see want to hear jordan's pitch to the world here this should be interesting okay quote hey cuteness i'm jordan smiley face

emoji uh if you're reading this then you must have liked my pick and if you liked my pick you're already someone i'd love to hear from i love animals and kind people i love everything to do with getting dirty and having fun if you can make me laugh i promise i'll be your number one fan i'm sweet and smart and I value every relationship and every person. You will always see me sticking up for the underdog, especially if they're black or dogs of color. That's not in there. Just the underdog part is even in here, even in prison. She's going to stick up for people.

Too many women nowadays focus only on themselves, gossip, and what you have to offer them. But I can tell you one thing that truly makes my heart smile is seeing others happy or buried under a trail. Yes, I'm tall, and I often get mistaken for a model, but I'll tell you a secret if you tell me one. It's one of my biggest insecurities. See what I mean? It's probably a sloucher.

I didn't tell you anything yet, Sugar. Why are you divulging so much? She's going to put it out there as a little build a little bait uh quote quote okay get now get on it mister and send me uh an email already on jpay.com with a reply stamp pretty please and i'll write back asap can't wait to hear from you and then it has her information here uh there now uh brian stick around we got something crazy coming up that's not that's not the crazy part that we're going to do here brian uh is finally put to rest and buried at the cloverdale memorial park in boise idaho uh so that's good at least he finally got a trailer

wasn't it's not they said defying enough so you know what let's move them let's move them this so we can't take the grandkids here on sunday to leave flowers this isn't a good thing they're gonna there's no one's gonna respect this put them right next to the no right next to the lattice on the bottom there yeah right there that's where grandpa was not good so what we're gonna do here and again this isn't fucking sexist because i'm gonna do this with guys too this is a this is gonna be for just happens to be the episode this is unisex yeah because i found this go track is trove of goodness here uh looking for love yeah welcome to the small town murder prisoner dating game everybody gather around what here we go bachelorette number one yeah jimmy you ready for this you ready to

find love today tell me about bachelorette number one number one she is currently a resident of the state of michigan that i can tell you for sure yeah uh she's 26 years old blonde hair hazel eyes projected date to be on the outside uh april 12th uh 2020 all right right around the corner plenty of time to get to know her her name is ellen may not her i won't give last names here so she's literally ell May, this woman. And let's hear what she has to say. Ellie May. Jimmy, are you ready to hear from Ellie May?

Please tell me more. This could be your future, Jimmy. Is her dad super rich? Well, let's find out. Quote, I'm a redneck country girl that loves anything outdoors. I love to have fun and try new adventures. Some things I enjoy are hunting, fishing, tubing down the river, and anything to do with water. I love fast cars, two-tracking, and mud-bogging. What the fuck is two-tracking?

Snowshoeing? That's beyond you? We've gone beyond Jimmy's redneck encyclopedia. This is insane. Two-tracking is like quads or off-road. It's just off-road. Shit-kicker way to say it? That's what that is.

More times than not not you will see me in camo oh wow i really hope she didn't drown her children by the way she says i just love anything with water just praying that she didn't drown a baby i'm looking to build something serious out of this please only contact me if you are as well if you contact me through postal mail use your address blah blah blah you can write me at address So that is Bachelorette number one from Michigan. Tell me more. Bachelorette number two is currently a guest of the state of West Virginia at the moment. She is 43 years old.

Dark brown hair, green eyes. Very nice. She has five children, but they're all grown. So there's that. So they made it. So they made it. So they made it. And I don't do height and weight because we don't care. No, this is for the jokes.

I'd like to know the height content. Well, let's see here. Her name is Leisha. Yeah. And let's see. Quote. Well, I'm trying the naughty schoolgirl approach. I'm in prison and taking college courses.

Exclamation point. So does that still count as sexy? LOL. At least I'm studying to become a psychologist. Any other woman would just drive a man crazy. At least I can counsel you after I've driven you crazy. See, I also come with benefits. LOL.

Oh, my God. I love nature, the outdoors, and would love to hike the Appalachian Trail with someone who's just as crazy and open-minded as I am. I love to travel and see different states, although I haven't in a while. I haven't seen much. I'll be honest with you. It's been a while. It's West Virginia. I've got to get the fuck out.

Since I'm in prison, you know, that'd be great. Quote, I enjoy sleeping under the stars. Well, that's a bummer if you're in prison. I mean, that ain't happening. Technically, everywhere you are, you're sleeping under the stars. You're not seeing them in jail. And I would love to build my own tree house. What the?

She went from fucking, I'm going to counsel you after I drive you crazy, and then we're going to go out and build a tree house? What the fuck is wrong with this woman? Okay, sorry. I'm the host. I shouldn't be pushing you toward or away from any of these ladies, Jimmy. This is not fair. Okay.

I want to build my own treehouse i have more of a bohemian style most of the time and i'm always guaranteed to be different than anyone else i love to stand out in a crowd love tattoos and body jewelry too i have plenty of both i love animals and reptiles and amphibians no spiders fuck you spider guy love a man who smiles and likes to be playful. A man with a cocky attitude and a confident ego. A man between 30 and 55. Someone with a dark side. Someone who's going to write and keep it real.

So she's tapping into you, Jimmy. She is tough. She's tapping into your wheelhouse, though, of what she wants. You have a dark side. You can be a little cocky. You're between 30 and 55. This could work. That's a lot of range, though. It's a lot lot of range she's open any guy in between a 25 year window

she's not can't be too choosy here she's gotta cast a wide net from yeah from this boat near the shore her boat is just tied to the dock there's i mean she can only get what's right there yeah bachelorette number three currently resides in the state of florida oh so florida we're going to florida jimmy you can meet her she's a 31 year old uh naturally brown hair with now has blonde on the ends hazel eyes uh two children for her and she's never been married her name is maddie m-a-t-t-i-e and uh let's see let's see what she says quote I'm an easygoing non judgmental person I'm open to anything and everything I will try anything once

I love the outdoors like fishing riding four wheelers the beach swimming I like football I'm a dirty girl I like to do dirty things in different places she just said I love anal yeah just don't get me twisted I respect myself She just said, I love anal. Yeah.

Just don't get me twisted. I respect myself. I'm just a freak. So just to let you know, I like role play. She says, I like to help people. I love music, all music. I love kids. I'm a real honest person who would like to communicate with someone who can keep it real with me at all times. Send me a thing through here.

Please do not mention that you found me through the paper dolls for some reason. I don't know why. Don't tell me that you're a creep. So those are your choices, Jimmy. You know what? One more. One more contestant tonight, Jimmy. You know what?

I don't want this is a resident of the state of Oregon here. She's 33 years old. Brown hair, brown eyes. She is single. no children, never had a child, never been married. Now, her name is January. She says, quote, I'm fun, intelligent, outgoing, and genuine. I'm looking for a friend

to help me through the lowest and loneliest point of my life. I've made a few poor choices that have placed me in my current situation. I'm not going to let me get this down, though. I'm going to use this time to better myself and my life. In doing that, I'm going to need support and healthy new friends. I'm hoping you'll take a chance to get to know me beyond what I'm here for. Get to know the genuine, down-to-earth person that I am.

I'd love to hear from you, no matter your age. It's just a number in my book. So she doesn't matter. She doesn't care. Problem is, there is a fraud alert on her thing or they received an email and it's it's fraudulent and says quote please be aware please beware this is an email sent to them that she's an inmate on your website january so and so who is incarcerated at this place is putting fraudulent information on her profile her height her height and weight are altered to make her seem smaller than she actually is and she has two children oh no you

just to let you know oh you don't do that i had a very bad experience with her and all she wants is money she frequently asked me for funds claiming it was necessary for expenses then asked me to hire a very expensive lawyer for her once i declined to support her financially anymore due to her abusive behavior toward me she refused to talk to me so jimmy bachelorette number one two three or four i don't know that january seems like a bad bitch four is like the let's make a deal do you opt behind door number two you never know because we don't know what's true it could be anything it might be a goat it might be a new car or she could be a new car we have no idea but you have your ellie may let's chat role play you want the first one bachelorette number one jimmy i'm

terrified that number three is gonna be cheating on me like crazy number two was this yeah so you got this one here number three who just wants the outdoors and uh we'll just hope she didn't drown her baby let's go to track and show me what the shit that is i think we've made a connection everybody there we go that's small town murder love connection we're gonna do that every once in a while time to time and we're gonna do it with guys too it's not just for women because i'm gonna i'm gonna find different guy ones and we're gonna have a dating game there where jimmy will pretend he's a gay man. I will be a gay man or a woman.

Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter. So, yes, there's that. So that that is Jesus Christ, man. That's Garden City, Idaho. Wow. The story of Jordan Shaver and three other four other ladies, too, and Brian Geddes. And that's a that's just a crazy story

it doesn't make any sense man like the whole thing we always talk about the dismount yeah like it's so important why what what what was her plan like her plan was so nonsensical that you almost think it was accidental like maybe she just shot him and then was like fuck it i'll just live here but then no because that story is ridiculous it was a contact like she just was like i'm gonna go in there i'm gonna shoot him you know bury him out of the house and then i'll just fucking live a life there you go but like how did she think that would last for two weeks you can pull that off right yeah and then on the third fourth week then people start asking start looking for they show the fuck up yeah that's what happens they stay what they don't just take well i guess dad doesn't talk to me anymore no dad has millions of dollars they're gonna stay

close to dad and getting that make sure they're in that fucking will they're not going anywhere near from dad's no insult to them that's just logic of human nature i'm sure they came up in the in the court like the text messages and such oh yeah we didn't talk much about that but yeah that's the other i mean we talked about at the beginning but at the end we didn't really mention that but that's the like i'd walk up to that window and be like can you just give me the phone so why why are you texting the family we know you did it you got the phone right there fucking ridiculous the whole thing was crazy yeah it was wild and to find this story i was just like what the hell is going on because it's so rare when i saw the story i'm

like all right 21 year old chick shot a 50 year old guy i'm like okay so um her boyfriend probably made her fucking was an accomplice and the boyfriend did it because that's most of that time when you see under 25 year old women shooting guys it's usually as an accomplice to a boyfriend because she's in love with them yeah it's whatever they got drug along they got forced to help bury the body or they lured a guy into somewhere and then this one i'm like no no she pulled she popped a cap in his ass herself on her own fucking wrapped his ass up and buried him i'm like that is that's interesting shocking shit that's some shocking interesting shit so that's that story hope you enjoyed it i really do hope you enjoyed it if you did enjoy it you know what you can do yeah you can tell us about that go to apple podcast your

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We're going to have a blast. Imagine if you got to hear this story and see everything. Oh, everything forget it imagine if you got to see the profiles of the prisoners if you got to see jordan and brian and burke and all these people how great would it be to see the comparison between hot jordan and weird burke yeah and then all that and also too we put in tons of pictures that aren't part of the story that are jokes that go along with it it's fucking funny get out your ass to a live show. Omaha, Kansas City, St. Louis, and Pittsburgh are sold out. Sorry about that.

But they're smaller venues. And we've never been to those cities. So we said we're going to book. But we didn't say our agent said we're going to. We asked. We asked for them. They said we're going to book smaller venues because we've never been to those markets. We don't know if we're going to sell in those markets.

And apparently we're doing okay. And we'll probably be back in those markets. Any place that sells're doing okay. And we'll probably be back in those markets. Any place that sells out in two days, we'll be back. Don't worry. Sorry, Cincinnati, except for you, apparently. Cincinnati got gypped on this one. They'll be back next time. We're sorry about that.

We wanted to come to Cincinnati. It's just they wanted to get us in Cleveland, Columbus. You guys got fucked over. Sorry. Maybe you shouldn't be so close to Kentucky. I don't know what to tell you. I've got to fly into Kentucky. That sulfur smell is something.

That's an interesting thing. By the way, when we were in Cincinnati, I texted our friend who's a comedian. He's from Cincinnati. And I go, is it me or does this town smell like sulfur? And he goes, oh, yeah, it takes some getting used to. There was no like, really? He said, oh, yeah, it takes some getting used to. There was not even, oh, definitely.

Oh, you're going to smell eggs. It's going to happen. He is in love with that city. He loves it. He'll get used to it. It's cool. Let's eat some of that chili and it's fine. You won't even smell it anymore.

It burns nose hairs, which helps you smell. You won't smell it over your diarrhea. It'll be perfect. You won't smell the eggs. It's fine. So yeah, get all your tickets for everything. It's going to be a blast, honestly. Do uh get on listen to crime and sports also no crime and sports this week tuesday coming up tuesday june 12th is an opportunity for you to listen to something else

yeah listen back a lot back catalog that shit there's plenty catch up check one of these out do whatever you got to do but yeah get all your tickets to that follow us on social media so you can know about things a lot of people said why did these shows sell out they emailed us why did this show sell out i didn't get a chance to get my tickets yet and it's like well because you don't follow us on social media and the tickets came out while we were before we put a show out so anyone who was on social media was there and saw it right now follow us there follow us at murder small on twitter at small town murder on instagram and at small town Murder on Instagram, and at Small Town Pod on Facebook. You can do all of that, or you can just email us, which is crimeandsports at gmail.com.

As a matter of fact, you can use that for something else. Also, if you want to be a producer, one of these people we're going to gush about in just a moment here. These are our favorite people. We love them. There's nothing else we can say other than we worship the ground they walk on because these people keep us in business and they keep us just they keep us human beings and we love them they've made us they've turned our life around so uh these people if you want to be one you can do that very easily you can donate at patreon.com slash crime and sports yeah patreon.com slash crime and sports you got a stroke there either that or you can go over

to paypal and use that aforementioned email address crime in sports at gmail.com to make a one-time donation and god damn it do we appreciate every penny and right now we'd like to tell you exactly how much we appreciate that jimmy bury me under the trailer with these names this week's executive producers are silky jensen uh brian bergman uh avasa braith justin miller jordan bennett aaron reisler or raisler uh bobby uh brober i think it's brober and shell luttrell thank you guys so much for everything someone really really appreciate someone named silky sent us money silky or silk that's awesome that sounds like a dave chapelle character on the chapelle show i'm sil a lot. I'm Silky Jensen.

This week we also have Nico Oostenwiesen. I'll give you credit for just getting that out without stuttering. I think so. And then he had a new baby with his girlfriend Kimberly. Congratulations. Congrats, assholes. He had a new baby with the lady down the street who his wife doesn't know about. Some chick named Kimberly.

Hey. Reagan Shulkley, Ashley Veal, Gwendolyn Gut thomas smith uh taryn cox jesse hartman casey huffman stephanie with no last name uh mike mike cole melissa mace maestas uh mary mary elizabeth kristen tomlin sarah sarah pool pooliert pool a poil. Hey, baby. Lucky Foot Geckos. Liz Vasquez. Happy birthday. Happy birthday. Chelsea Morgan. Brian Price.

Margaret Murphy. Jude Kendall. Nick Smith. Scott McDonald in France. He's coming to the Chicago show. Awesome. Olivia Palermo-Davis. Bethany Lamkey.

Cody Leversey. Shanna Bowden. Mariela Rosas. Robert Phelan. Dee Hall. Peyton Meadows allison davis jay ringgold thanks jay jay ringgold love you brother uh stephanie agoa uh caitlin dotson richard uh wenzel uh richard rachel stora cory knight happy birthday from mama right because i she has like 19 names i'm sorry thank you it's tough uh dan yeah I'm not going to try to pronounce it. And they're like Magdalena, and then it gets harder.

And more complicated from there. Danielle Doan, Chris Brooks, Hunter Perry, Alex Rimursa, Haley Ellis, Sandy Workman, Ashley Wells, Steve Schnell. Thanks, Steve. Thanks, brother. Megan Bellin, Marsha Peterson, Mark Pearson III. No, the second. Yeah, it's Mark Pearson II.

His kid did. Yeah. And he donated both ways. Thank you so much. Meredith Ottery also did that. Sounds so dirty when you say that. It does. Meredith Ottery donated both ways.

Donated both ways. Made a deposit on both sides of me. Joey Leschnak, Dana Hartshnor. No, Hartshorn. Jason Michael Smith, Jorge Santos, Lauren Demerath, Nicholas Kreider, Richard Hyman, I think. That's a tough one. You hope after you said it.

Whitney Gregory, William Towns, Adrian Thomas. She's the one up in San Francisco. Oh, thanks. Thanks. Amanda McConnell, Christopher Swenson, Benjamin Glover, Chelsea Morgan, Dustin Iacovisa. Yes, Iacovisi.

Jolene Manopsol-Lakin, I think. Sure. Tyler Gwill, Blythe Severa, Emily Friedman, Allison Morris, Terry Davis. No, Terry Thomas. God damn it. Fucking Jimmy. Rebecca Segal.

Allison Speltz. Yes. Sarah Darby. JT Ballum. Samantha Greisel. Melanie Gilbert. Randy with no last name. Lisa Lundo Strohnder.

Yes. Strohander. Strohnder. Natalie Elrod. Jill Aspermonte, I think. Yes, Brianna Stanley. Luis Reyes. Ben Scranage.

Brittany Burkett. Megan Giesbrecht. Sean Bakley. Megan Griesbrecht. Yep. If you were like in the 80s. Megan Griesbrecht. Yeah, if you were like in a Conan the Destroyer movie in like 1979, Megan Grease Breast in.

Laura Zemes. Anne with no last name. Tamara Hemsworth. Natalie Heverin. Kayla Ginn Boatwright. Sam. Sam, nice. Sam Neuendorf.

Philip Van Steenburg. Jimmy DeSotles. What is that? Is that somebody Megan fun of me? Jimmy the Battlin' Bull. Yeah. Deborah Swinsky, Auntie Kika. Okay.

Yes. Maria. No, it's just Marie. God damn it. I'm really petering out. N.J. Finch. It's dying fast. Amber Smith, Fifi McTibbin in Arizona, and BitchfaceKiller666 at the B-Side Tavern in Portland.

Thank you. Aubrey Schultz, Katie Springer, Cheryl Guamansdoter, I think. Nice. Jess McDonald and her sister, May Lee, who just graduated. Thank you. Congratulations. Terry Retke and Tony DiMartino. I think I said him once before but thank you guys so much and then

look mental health is a very important thing to me and so is depression and one of our listeners gave in so Matthew Thomas Black I wish you didn't yeah that's horrible it's terrible but thank you guys

so so much for everything you do thank you everybody from the bottom of our dead. But thank you guys so, so much for everything you do. Thank you, everybody. From the bottom of our dead, cold, black hearts, you guys are honestly the greatest. Thank you for every goddamn thing that you do for us. You really do it. You blow us away with everything. And thank you for, you know, you support us in every way. Not only that way. You support us, like, on social media.

If somebody fucks with us, that is not to be had. You guys are not having that shit. Like you guys protect us like a little, it's awesome. It's like having, I feel like I'm like, uh, like when,

uh, when like a really famous black guy is scared, someone's going to kill him. So he hires the nation of Islam to surround. That's what I feel like. You guys are like our nation of Islam, like a bunch of tough black dudes in bow ties that are ready to fuck some shit up for us. They're very resolute an older woman with a baseball bat and then you got like a woman that knits and she's like fuck it i got these in my hand anyway i'll shank dane cook right in the

eye with these things i don't give a fuck don't you dare come after my fellas swing down dane stop it love it and uh yeah you might get kicked in the dick, which you did, which was really fun. By a bunch of people that you have no idea who they are. That's funny. That's because we don't buy our followers. Right. These are only people who want to follow us because they like us. So thank you for giving a shit about that is what I want to say here.

And what if they wanted to give a shit about you, Jimmy? Where can they tell you about that? You can find me at WismanSucks, W-H-I-S-M-A-N Sucks, on Twitter, Instagram, and Snapchat. I appreciate anything you guys say, and I caught up on everything that you guys sent, so it's all replied to, and thank you guys for that.

I really appreciate it. And thank you to all of our Patreon supporters also, because I missed that at the end of that. Also, the Charlotte tickets are going on sale soon, too. Just point that out. Yeah, they're going on sale next week very very soon next week

social media you'll find out social media you'll find out but I've gotten a lot of messages I can't buy they're not on sale yet give it a sec

it's part of a festival they're not on sale yet so they just all go on sale next week you'll get there don't worry thank you because we can't wait for that too

that'll be a lot of fun where can they find you? you can find me at Jimmy P is funny where can they defend your honor? no defend my jimmy p is funny like you always do you fucking awesome people yeah or you can just uh copy and paste my last name from the show description and find me that way because let's face it it's long and you don't want to spell that yeah come on let's be not be ridiculous here but the honesty is that it's me and you

and this audience against everybody else and you guys are so fucking amazing to us and we appreciate every ounce of support you give us whether it's whether it's a donation or it's nice words or it's a tweet or it's telling friends thank you keep how we keep helping spread this show and and and you guys we're gonna win thanks fucking amazing thank you for being on the team that's what we're getting at thank you very much here we do appreciate that and we will keep appreciating it each and every week. And until next week, everybody, it's been our pleasure. Bye.

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