Small Town Murder - #180 - Dark & Dirty Motivation in Mustang, Oklahoma

Episode Date: July 16, 2020

This week, in Mustang, Oklahoma, the area is rocked by the murder of a prominent citizen, in their own living room. As the town mourns, they also fear this could be a maniac on the loose. Luckily for everyone, it turns out to be not so much of an aimless maniac, but a person, very close to the deceased, who seems to have just snapped, lately, but not in the way you might imagine. This thing is a twisted, dark mess! Along the way, we find out that tornadoes often come to the same area more than once, that sending unsolicited naked images of yourself to people is never a good idea, and that murder is not always the answer! Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie Whisman New episodes every Thursday! Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com & use our email: [e-mail] Go to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports! Follow us on... twitter.com/@murdersmall facebook.com/smalltownpod instagram.com/smalltownmurder Also, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On iTunes, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts# See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Thank you. Hope you enjoyed Colorado last week and that tale of just weirdness. Poor bastard. Yeah, we're escalating in terms of the craziness.

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is we try not to make fun of the victim or the victim's families. What would be the point of that? Because we're assholes and we're not scumbags. There you go. I mean, that's the thing. So if that sounds good to you, awesome.

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there's no tour till 2021 let's let's pretend this is a live show and say shut up give me murder let's do this jimmy all right let's go on a trip shall we all right let's do this and speaking of live shows this was a live show this year we got to do it exactly one time oh so yeah so this is i got to do weeks of work yeah to put together the visual presentation all the jokes that go along with that to do literally one one time goddamn live show with it so if you can imagine this hurts yeah to do this episode it really hurts because like one it's yeah it's really good we got to do it one time it's a good one and it's uh god damn it but you know what we're gonna do it and we're gonna release it to you guys

because you're not, yeah, you don't remember this one. I don't remember anything. Well, that was Louisville and you were given quite a lot of bourbon,

I believe. That one was a whole bottle. Yeah. Somebody brought a specific because Louisville, Kentucky was. You were in some kind of shape that night.

Yeah, that's Kentucky. Yeah. They make bourbon. Jimmy was just pouring bourbon into a glass just without anything because he got drunk to the point where he was like, I don't know, bourbon. Jimmy was just pouring bourbon into a glass just without anything because he got drunk

to the point where he was like, I don't know. Bourbon's pretty good by itself. So that's drunk. This is good. So I told him we were going to do this episode and he goes, I don't remember that at all. Okay, good. It's a good thing. Well, let's go on a trip.

Let's do it. We're going all the way to Oklahoma, which isn't that far from Colorado where we came last week, but they're actually pretty far apart. Oh, because Oklahoma's long as fuck. It's long and this is kind of toward the you know central and there and the other one was in western colorado so they're pretty far apart here we're going to mustang oklahoma oh yeah which sounds like a city in oklahoma that you know i don't know mustang right name three towns in oklahoma besides tulsa and Oklahoma City. No. Mustang, Bronco, and...

What were they? And Range Rover. Norman, got one. Hey, there you go. But that's named after the cow in City Slickers, right? I believe it is, yeah. Which is good. That's what you want to do.

That cow deserves to be memorialized. He was a good cow. So this is you want to do. That cow deserves to be memorialized. He was a good cow. This is in central Oklahoma. It's about an hour and a half to Oklahoma City. I'm sorry, half hour to Oklahoma City. It's kind of like a suburb of Oklahoma City. Close by. About three hours down to Dallas.

Very exciting there. That's why we go to Dallas. Tons of people from Oklahoma come over there. Now we know why. It's pretty close to drive. And about two and a half hours to Bartlesville, Oklahoma, which was our last Oklahoma episode that we did. This is in Canadian County, Oklahoma. Very strange.

Forget. And their logo doesn't even have a maple leaf on it or anything. I checked. I'm like, I wanted a maple leaf with crossed hockey sticks and like a little beaver and the queen like i wanted all those things lined up in one and like a tim hortons logo you know things of that nature background of the flag is plaid it's yeah instead it's not at all it's just a cow no it's not it's something else but uh zip code 73064 area area code 405. It's about 12 square miles. So the motto is a city with a vision.

Oh. Yeah. What's the vision? The end of that, though, that's the half they put out. But the rest of it is because there isn't a fucking hill for hundreds of miles. Your vision is right. That's a lot of vision. Clear to the Appalachians and the Rockies.

There's nothing obstructing shit. That's awesome. If you've ever driven through Oklahoma, you go, wow, I can see forever. Makes you wonder how they get hit with a tornado out of the blue. That's what I mean. Weird that that would pop up. You should have seen that coming. Jesus Christ.

You look north and you just go, is that Santa's house up there? I think I see the North Pole. That's a fucking nothingness there is there. It's just nothing. It's fucking awful yeah so uh the history of this town the uh european explorers were in the area as early as 1541 so yeah there was white people mucking up the works here in 1541 and uh the modern era though can be traced back to 1889 and the Oklahoma land run, which is pretty fucking. These land runs are insane. That's where they go.

Free land. Go stake your claim, right? Yeah. They line everybody up and everybody signs up and then they line everyone up at a certain time and they go fucking basically bust off a starter's pistol. A cannonball run. Yeah. They all run and a horse. And when they're all lined up, I have a million pictures, which were really great for the horse and when they're all lined up i have a

million pictures which were really great for the live show of all these people lined up and you're people are on like you know a horse and on foot and like a fucking unicycle and like big foots up there and a monster truck grave diggers next to him like people are in silly vehicles those old teeter those old timey like the wings flap when you pedal one of those attempted fucking flying machines someone's in it's you know what i'm saying it's a guy from up with a house full of balloons yeah some guy's got that he's checking them making sure the connection between the balloons and shack is secure that's what it looked like though it was so silly like i'm gonna get there faster right so uh i think I would have hired a guy who rode a horse really fast and said, this is what I'm looking for.

Fucking go there. If you don't find it, you're dead because it's 1889. Oh, yeah. I can do that. I can kill you on this land that's out in the middle of nowhere. But the land rush started when Abraham Lincoln, when he was president, obviously, it would be hard for him to sign axed when he was not president or when he was dead. So he's just a fucking male clerk yeah he's like you know i'm gonna put this into law i've decided this is law didn't he work at a

grocery store or something he had other shit and he's a congressman from he did that he lost a bunch of elections first he was uh didn't well he was tall and goofy so it was a hard hard thing for him back then yeah that's a funny funny word for ugly as fuck he's not a not a handsome man the most hideous thing i've ever seen not a classically handsome man let's say that lincoln was not definitely not and uh i don't get the it's either a very ugly man or a very handsome frankenstein one of the two my question is lincoln was six four same height as me, so I get tall guy things. I understand. One thing I would never, ever do is wear a hat that would extend my height another fucking

eight inches so I would look even taller and thinner. That's not what I'm going for here. You're trying to, you know what I'm saying? Even the shoes you buy, they can't be a certain shoe because it looks like boats. So you have to have a certain cut in the front so they look small. You got to have a curve. There's a lot of things that tall guys, you have to figure out. And that hat is the first thing you figure out is, whoa, that looks goofy on me.

Also, that holds the hair back from hiding that fucking what is that face. Yeah, that's true, too. He had a huge eyebrow ridge. Yeah. That's creepy. Yeah. That's creepy. Yeah. And then that super boxed up jaw that he decided to decorate with a very thin beard. He needed like a couple of protein shakes is what Lincoln needed. Somebody just needed to bulk Lincoln up a little bit, put him on a program.

I want to see Lincoln like just sitting there with like a Tupperware full of chicken breasts like he's like one of these workout guys you know like just eating a baked potato with his hand. He's fat as Grant. He wouldn't look as weird. No that's what I mean. I knew a guy like that who was a workout nut when I was a bouncer and he fucking. He slimmed down? You know he used to just carry around a Tupperware

full of potatoes and he'd just eat them like apples. What are you doing? That's so weird. That's disgusting. And chicken breasts he'd have the same thing and just eat them like apples like these what are you doing it's so weird that's disgusting chicken breast you'd have the same thing and just eat them like they were candy it was so weird potato but a raw one no no it wasn't raw they were cooked potatoes it was just a potato just a thing of baked potatoes with nothing on them you just reach in and just eat them like all day eating he'd be eating these things like apples well i'm told that's a smart thing to do because

it fills but doesn't like pack you full of the the extra i guess i don't know stuff like that he was fucking huge he ended up playing in the nfl for a couple years so it worked out i guess going and burning that's what it's for i'm told he played i think for five years in the nfl yeah he played for four or five years that's pretty good i'm gonna start eating potatoes you know what guys potato off everybody as soon as that football comes back i'm in so back to lincoln here lincoln uh this was the homestead act of 1862 which allowed settlers to claim lots up to 160 acres provided they lived on the land and improved it they couldn't just say that's mine now i live over there yeah i live in new york yeah i got a summer place yeah you

actually had to be there so the uh ind Appropriations Act of 1889 was passed and signed into law, and that authorized President Benjamin Harrison to open up two million acres for settlement. Wow. By the way, I think this is a lot of the land that the Supreme Court this week, last week, just ruled that actually belongs to the Native Americans. That's nice. They just said, like, most of Oklahoma actually should be reservation. Good news.

We haven't developed much of it. Yeah. Really, I think that was like a with a wink and like, give it to them back. Fuck it. We've drained it of all recently. We've really ruined this. It's flat and ugly, and the tornado will take them all out anyway. Kevin Durant even left. Yeah durant i don't know yeah i

don't know and i hope that's not what happened but uh yeah it's that's what ended up here though so maybe this is part of it i'm not sure i didn't really do the the full backstory on the supreme court story but uh yeah so the oklahoma land rush of 1889 was the first land rush into the unassigned lands is what they called them it opened up settlements uh for part of a shitload of counties in oklahoma uh cleveland county canadian county they're really yeah really ripping everybody off not a lot of creativity with these names very little king fisher county oh that's a good county that's a cat that's a those things are horrifying wow i just found that out fairly recent i've never heard of that before terrifying they're from new england in the northeast and they the fuck are they doing here i don't know

they're gonna name to cleveland canadian right so it doesn't matter i don't think they're native to oklahoma i would hope not one of the scariest things ever though oh jesus their cries in the middle of the night are they'll they'll get you jesus i'll cut you to the bone. They'll get you. That's scary. So the land run started at high noon on April 22nd, 1889, with 50,000 people lined up for an available 2 million acres. Oh, my God. 50,000 people lined up to run into the nothingness and say, this is mine. Well, I mean, you're getting, on average, if you average it, 200 acres a person. That's... I might be a part of that 50,000. You can have 160, I guess, you're getting, on average, if you average it, 200 acres a person.

I might be a part of that 50,000. You can have 160, I guess, is a lot. But some of the land was worthless, though. Some of it's just this dry shit dust land. There's none of that that's any good. But people wanted to have land near a water thing or near certain areas that were better than others, basically. And this was what they were fighting prime ones. Yeah, everyone's trying to get prime land. Really?

There's plenty of land for everybody. Yeah, there's plenty. But just a lot of people are going to live in the dusty lands here. So on April 22nd, Mustang Township filled each available tract with 142 claimants. The whole deal here. And here is a thing. This is by Carol Ann Hanna here. This is her description of people rushing for land here.

When the cannoners boomed at noon, thousands of pioneers surged forward. Those on fast horses raced ahead of the wagons, surries, and plow stock. See, it was like everything. Some stopped and staked claims. Others sped on. By nightfall, every tract had a claimant, and some tracts had several claimants. Multiple claimants typically tossed a coin to settle a dispute. Now, if they didn't have a coin, it went to the person with the larger dick.

That was... No, I'm sorry. In the case of a tie, it went to whoever stabbed the other guy faster. Right. That was the... One of the biggest guns. That's how they settled it. Yeah, obviously here.

ever stabbed the other guy faster that's what that was the biggest gun that's how they settled it yeah obviously here uh so yeah there was just these fucking these pictures of these people you're like no thank you you i wouldn't for oklahoma yeah for a piece of it you don't even know what you're getting right you're gonna line up and stand there and fight people and yeah the people a lot of people too they crept in the sooners is what they called them. That's where the college name came from. These were people that crept in early and illegally and would go and claim their land and act like they just pulled up to it. Yeah, they'd go squat places. They called their college the Oklahoma Cheaters. The Oklahoma Cheating Assholes.

Right. The Oklahoma Land Stealers. Oklahoma Dickheads. Actually, Land Steal land stealers squared because first they stole it once as a whole and now he's going to steal it from other people who were taking pilfered land to begin with i want to make this legal it's yeah it's it's fucking crazy man so obviously there would be fights with people who waited for the starting gun and everything like that so uh you know it was it was rough you think you wouldn't name it's crazy name your mascot uh

for people that are in sporting contests uh that are cheaters after the people that cheated in a sporting contest well yeah that would be like if the other team showed up for their football game and oklahoma the oklahoma team was already on the field and said it's seven nothing us you're like we haven't warmed up yet what are you talking no we already played like what is it we played 12 minutes in the first quarter it's over it's almost over so we're done you better hurry up we're kicking your ass it's fucking good you should have seen we really got you good on that first drive it was precision precision all the way down the field runs passes impressive this guy should have been here but you know our fourth and goal down there was a real

disappointment it was tough good to see you guys here good goal line stand but thanks line up fuckers that's pretty much what it would be yeah good job oklahoma perfect it feels good to really hate on them now after they ruined our fucking live show that last time yeah yeah yeah and it wasn't even in oklahoma and they're just screaming yeah that was that one person in dallas i was screaming boomer sooner and getting yelled at by everyone in the crowd especially us now you say that boomer sooner shit ever again and i'm gonna rip yeah we're gonna explain why you're a dummy let me tell you why you're stupid which is a great way to start out any stage act how you doing everybody let me tell you why you're stupid. Which is a great way to start out any stage act.

How you doing, everybody? Let me tell you why you're stupid. It's only to one person. And our crowd's so great, they go, yeah, he is stupid. Let's hear why. They love that shit. Don't stop explaining. Explain why he's stupid.

He looks stupid. Tell him more. Yeah. Tell him more until he goes to get a drink and then when he's at the back of the room keep telling him that's gonna be perfect so uh yeah a lot of the people here that moved in were a lot of uh kind of immigrants like german polish czechoslovakian a lot of czechoslovakian immigrants in this particular area of the of mustang the first post office came here in 1895 which was named Mustang, which was named after the Mustang Creek, which was nearby.

So that's why they did it there. The agriculture was a big deal here. Obviously, Mustang was known as, quote, down in Egypt because of bountiful crops of fruits and vegetables. Okay. Yeah. Apparently, Egypt is a great climate for growing shit. Apparently. So that's what they call it. you wouldn't imagine that by the pictures you've seen

if you just look at the pyramids you go no no no how's a lot of sand i can't grow shit in that sand but i there's more to it than that i assume you can see those from a heavily populated metropolis yeah which is crazy as fuck it's egypt's a big country though it's a goddamn big country so peninsula yeah it's well it's not a whole peninsula. Isn't that a peninsula? No, it's not. It's not Florida. Italy's a peninsula. But it's like a fucking hangs out in the...

No, but then it's... No, it doesn't. It's not a peninsula? It's at the top of North Africa. Doesn't it hang into a bay? It's kind of on its own. Morocco's near there. Maybe I'm dumb.

There's a bunch of countries. It's by... No, you're... It's just it's in the top of the continent there. It's not by of countries and it's by it's by your no you're you're it's just it's in the top of the continent there it's not by itself hanging out okay which uh it seems like it would be but it's not you seem like you'd call that a peninsula yeah that's something so the uh the weekly oklahoma farmer which is a which was a newspaper someone published that oh boy uh called it one of the most prosperous regions in oklah They grew wheat, oat, corn, peaches, sweet potatoes, cantaloupes, apples, pears, grapes, blackberries, cherries, and plums. And watermelons, too.

And they pumped out shitloads of watermelons, apparently. The peaches were so good that they were shipped to England. And this magazine, newspaper, whatever it is, was bragging that in england in 1904 the peaches from this area were selling for three dollars a piece which is like the cost of like four horses back then you buy like a house for like eight dollars so three dollars is very expensive for a peach this was a delicacy apparently for rich people there they could buy this but back then there's no airplane it takes it forever to get across the sea i don't know how you do it you have good are they eating rotten peaches i think that's delicious i don't know if they're i think they probably pick them when

they're not ripe all the way and then they might be up on the right because i know like apples that you buy were picked like 10 months ago really some crazy shit yeah and months ago your apples from the store were picked yeah it's a weird thing how they do it. I don't know how it works exactly. That might have just been a bad article somewhere. I'm not sure. Might be spreading bullshit. I just like to see rich Brits eating some mushed up peach. It's just brown.

Oh, this is delicious. Oh, it's wonderful. Fucking chunks of it and juice falling out of their faces. Oh, it's caught in their beards. They just split the fuzz and it just oozes into their mouth. I like the fuzzy truth. You have to suck it out. Jesus Christ.

They established schools in 1902. They paid teacher. The first teacher they paid was $40 a month they made, and she had to teach 45 students for that. Hasn't gotten a raise since. Never. It still makes the same amount. That's why the school's not great here. Huge fire, of course, here. they made and she had to teach 45 students for that hasn't gotten a raise since never that still makes the same amount that's why the school's not great here huge fire of course here obviously

1906 train sparks ignited grass on the tracks beside this farm and uh basically it's swept northeast as far as council road flint and it was it was windy as well the winds consumed over 3 000 peach and apple trees five barns a bunch of farm implements, 15 bushels of corn, and a shitload of hay. So not one person is what that says. It's huge fire. Did not kill a soul. That's how fucking desolate this is. With wind blowing it, accelerating its speed, not a single person.

Not shit. it accelerating its speed not a single person not shit uh then the dust bowl came later on which this was a right in the middle of the dust bowl here which was this was hard times the stock market crashed and then the dust bowl had started before that and then the stock market crashed and it was oh boy fucking screwed and we could go into the causes of the dust bowl and it's basically because we were greedy and wanted to plant too much wheat people like shit you can sell wheat fucking rip up all that grazing grass and then the wind there was nothing to catch everything so clouds of dust fucking we did that is what i'm saying human caused shit oh abs 1000 we caused the dust bowl so it was one of those deals here uh people would borrow

and borrow trying to like the people that hung on around here. I don't know what they were. They were ballsy. They would hang on and hang on and hang on and then end up, you know, hoping that everything would turn around and then didn't for years and years and years. So people would lose their farms and lose everything. And just, you know, they'd have to go somewhere else anyway. That's why there's pride of being from somewhere. You know, I mean, yeah, you've stuck around for that many.

A lot has been through the show yeah a lot of these people ended up in northern and southern california as well like oakland like basically like uh you know a lot of their kind of uh you see there's a lot of like white trash in the oakland area this is where they came from these are people that there was jobs there during this time so they left the dust bowl for the bay area and for Southern California as well. You can see, like, if you go to Riverside and go, wow, this is trashy. That's what it was. From Oklahoma, couldn't afford LA.

Yeah, now they've gone further. It's the Linkhorn thing. If you look at the Nelson Algren book, they explain kind of the migration of hillbillies westward. Oh, I'm going to read that. It does a thing here. I don't know if you'd like that, but Hunter Thompson does kind of a short breakdown of it in the Hells Angels book. You'd probably just enjoy that better. I'm going to read that.

Yeah, it'll be more entertaining. Read Hells Angels. You'll be fine here. So, yeah, Mustang is called the buckle on the tornado belt. Oh. So lots of tornadoes here. I mean, shit loads. Cinch it tight. Yeah.

Churches and most of the homes were destroyed in 1927 and then 1937. Tons of shit was lost. 1956 homes, businesses and ripped the roof off the high school and city hall and a nearby shopping center and elementary school and a shitload of houses were destroyed in the 1970 tornado. Every 10 years, why are you here? Right. It doesn't want you. Build the wall there.

Yeah. Can you stop a tornado with a big wall? No, no. It'd have to be really big. I think it would still go right through it unless it went through the clouds. Right. It would have to go through the atmosphere i believe to stop anything and even then i don't know how that would work we need a weather a weather wall that's a high wall no we are not

scientists remember that keep that in mind yeah so uh yeah population increased a ton in the 60s because who wouldn't want to go to a town that's going to be destroyed every 10 years i found a review of this place most of the reviews are positive actually so here's one i grew up in mustang and i don't hate it okay it's just very far from school and i wished i lived in an area with more things to do we don't even have a movie theater but yukon is only 10 minutes away and it has everything so it's not that bad well i mean if yukon's right there jesus christ why not uh people in this town population 20 125 that's a lot which is up 93 since 1990 because it's suburbs from oklahoma city doubled but yeah it doubled uh male female is just about the same 51 it's about average 51 a little older. 39.2 is the median age. Nothing crazy there.

Few more married people. It's kind of a family town. A lot of these suburbs are more married people, more married people with kids, that sort of shit. Less single people with children, more married people with children. Race of this town, 84% white. So pretty fucking white. 1% black, quite under the average 1.1 asian 3.2

native american which is much higher than the average it's 0.7 the average 5.3 hispanic so pretty white yeah that's what we're saying here uh religion here and it's a little less religious than i thought it would be it's's about 46 percent, 17 percent Baptist. But it's spread around a little bit. There's Baptists. There's some Catholics. There's a little of this, a little of that. What there isn't, though, is Jewish people.

Zero point zero percent Jewish. Zero point zero percent Islam. So I'm not surprised, honestly. So Canadian County is very conservative. Last election, 21 percent Democrat, 72% Republican. So yeah, quite conservative in this area. A Oklahoma suburb is going to be pretty... Basically, the average citizen, if you look at it, is basically like Clint Eastwood from

Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. He's about 40 years old and grizzled. I think I'd rather have that looking into the sun i want that clint more than the one from uh gran torino yeah yeah definitely that's uh now household income here is a little bit higher unemployment rates about normal but uh household income is 69 966 about 70 000, it is $57,000, so not too bad here. Cost of living is 93 out of 100.

Housing is a 73 out of 100. Median home cost, $169,700, so not too shabby. And if we've convinced you, damn it, to wait for the next tornado in style, we have for you the Mustang, Oklahoma Real Estate Report. style we have for you the mustang oklahoma real estate report your average two-bedroom rental here is uh goes for about one thousand ten dollars which is a high

for in comparison to the real estate costs now i found a five acre lot if you want to just pitch a tent here five acre-acre lot of... It doesn't look great, I'll be honest with you. It's pretty bleak looking. But it's five acres of yours. $119,900. Okay. Not terrible. I found a house here. Three-bedroom, two-bath.

1,145 square feet. It's not the greatest house, but it's a house. $99,000. Wow. So, I mean, mean yeah that's not bad under 100 grand yeah to get you into a decent area it's made of straw it's made it's it's very flammable by the way her tornado will tear through that thing in a heartbeat i found a three-bedroom two-bath 2041 square feet so almost twice the size here. It's not all updated and everything like that, but it's decent. $159,500.

And let's say you're doing well here. You have all the peaches. You're selling them to some fancy Englishmen here. I found a four-bedroom, six-bath tea bowl for every b-hole. Wow. Let's do this. 5,416 square foot house. that's so much it's a lot of house 942,900 here and it's got a view of a golf course and fishing ponds and all this type

of shit yeah it's a decent it's a decent place things to do here mustang western days and it's just a lot of westerny stuff here they have a chili cook-off store window decorating contest also at the cook-off the best-dressed cowboys and cowgirls will receive awards according to age categories that is creepy awarded by trace adkins awarded by some gospel band probably that's playing the next day which they are oh yeah uh the mustang roundup club hosts an open rodeo as well so whoever wants to sign up for that and uh they also have a pancake breakfast a western stampede run what the fuck that's about a car show it's a parade this sounds terrible i'm sorry i don't want to do this

they have a pet show no pet shows leave your pets out of this don't torture them they're like i don't care about your fucking stupid festival i mean halloween's one day that you can put dumb shit on whatever stick something on them just in the when is this in the middle of the summer it's like yeah it's like right after labor day it's still a fucking shirt on your dog and walk it down the street. Itchy and shit. No. Terrible. Not going to work. Crime rate in this town, what we're interested in here, property crime is about 20% under

the national average. So pretty low. And then violent crime, murder, rape, robbery, and of course, assault is about 20% low as well. Great. So it's low. It's a safe kind of suburban area here. The Mount Rushmore of crime

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And this is good. Jesus Christ. You know what? I'm going to be very honest with everybody right now, and especially because we just delayed our tour. And really, that was the thing we were looking forward to. It was like, okay. And all year it was this. It's all I have.

And it was moved farther and farther. First it was this. Well, then we're going to push it back a month. Well, how about if we do everything two months? Well, we'll reschedule this for August. Yeah, it's fine. We'll do that. And I missed all sorts of stuff we were going to do on the

road to see my family's gonna do this shit we're gonna sit by a river and drink beer yeah we were gonna have fun i was gonna see my brother and do all this stuff and that didn't happen and that's fine i mean everybody got a lot of people got fucked out of a lot of things and people have died from this shit so it's not like it's you know we're the whatever but this show we need this time like the last couple months fuck it i'll need this time. Like the last couple months. Fuck it. I'll be even more fucking honest. The last few months have been a personal hell for me.

They really have. I haven't said shit about this on the show, and I don't know why I'm doing it now, just because I want to say thank you to you guys for fucking being there. But it's been sick and she had to have a surgery delayed because of covid and you know like cancer surgery something very important and then she had it and it was worse than they fucking thought because they had to wait and then my mother had a goddamn stroke like two days before my birthday and i've been dealing with that like that we like recorded that day and like fucking jesus my dad had his second your dad had a heart attack and then my grandmother is italian grandma's not doing

good cards on the table here she's not doing well at all uh she's not just not doing great she's uh it's bad so uh and that's been going on for a couple weeks and they thought she was gonna go two weeks ago and then she's waiting and it And it's just a fucking hellstorm of bullshit that has been happening to all of us. And everybody's been a little bit depressed anyway, being stuck in our houses and all this type of shit. And then you add all this shit to it. So these few hours a week that we have to do these fucking shows are really the only time where we can just say, none of that shit exists. Let's talk about crazy shit,. Let's talk about crazy shit. And let's talk about a murder.

Let's do it. The only opportunity we get to leave our house is to go to the fucking grocery store. That's it. And then I come here to see you twice a week. That's all I do. That's it, man. It's horrible.

Yeah, it sucks. Not that you're horrible. No, but I get you. I get you, yeah. God damn it. When you come, I'm so excited to see you. Someone's here. Yeah, I used to have to call you. James, I'm you. I get you. Yeah. God damn it. When you come, I'm so excited to see you. Someone's here.

Yeah. I used to have to call you. James, I'm outside. I show up and within 30 seconds, you're standing outside the door. I'm going to start buying the Amazon guy gifts just to be like, we should be pals. Like, why not? At this point, what the fuck? Just leave it by the door.

Yeah. Because you can't talk to the guy. You can't touch him. That's the thing. God damn it. Sorry. We try to keep it topical, or not topical, actually. We try to not kind of... We keep it to pertain to the show.

Yeah, we want it to be evergreen and not be tied to a time period. But we're real people, and this is shit that's going on in our lives. It's just been a hard couple months for us. So thank you for being there, is what we're saying. We weren't trying to complain. We were trying to say thank you. Right. So let's talk about this murder.

Let's talk about a couple here in this area. Let's talk about Keith Bryan is his name first. Keith. All right. Keith. And he meets a young lady named Rebecca. And they get married in 1978. All right.

These two. So they get married in 1978. Keith becomes the local, thes hill nickels hills fire chief so keith's a fireman and rebecca's his wife and they're kind of he's the chief so they're a he's a well-respected guy in the area being the fire chief the fire chief usually is firemen never get shit from anybody no they really don't they just get a lot of pussy that's right they get all the women want to fuck them and no one's ever like, there's no like firemen, anti-firemen protest because, well, I mean, there's no firemen.

Firemen rarely kill people. That's another reason why, not to be political about it, but I mean, firemen, their job is never to like intercede in some shit. And they never get in trouble if the building burns down and there's a kid inside. No, they have procedures. They're like, well, that's too fucking on fire for me. I mean, I guess it's going to burn. But I mean, people, what I'm saying is, I stated that wrong.

It's too fucking on fire. That's too much for me. That kid's fucked, right? Yeah. Can someone throw him out a window? We have this big trampoline thing. No? I guess he's fucked then.

I don't know. I'm a fireman. Not a too much fireman. Yeah. It's too much on fire. We sprayed water on it. That's what they tell us. It's in the fucking book.

It doesn't go out. It's oil. I phrased that wrong. What I meant to say is people like firemen rather than firemen. They don't get shit because some shit's deserved. And this is not what we're talking about with firemen. So people like firemen. They do.

They see them. They put out fires whenever there's a medical thing. They see firemen show up and they have a fucking dog with them and not a dog that's like wanting to bite you and like sniff out your cocaine. They'll never. They're happy. Yeah, it's a fucking goddamn Dalmatian. Like it's got spots on it and shit. It's all happy.

They always smile. A totally different thing. Yeah, it's just a different vibe that so people love the goddamn fire department so he's considered and he's like a big guy too he looks like he's from oklahoma yeah he looks like a fire chief from oklahoma is he like big like workout big or like uh he's kind of a big guy no big yeah yeah exactly like a barbecue kind of big but not fat or anything like that just a sturdy looking guy healthy man kind of a handsome face you fat or anything like that. Just a sturdy looking guy. Healthy man.

Kind of a handsome face. You know what I mean? He looks like a fire chief and he's well respected. So she's well respected as well. The two of them together, the Bryans, they're doing great together. They have a nice house, too. They buy this nice house and Mustang. Things are going very well for them.

house and mustang sure things are going very well for them um they end up having two sons together who you know grow up and become adults and lose them or give them away or you know sell them or have them taken by the state or anything they actually grow up and move out of the house that's a plus so i mean they they have it's a nice story of a couple that meets and stays together and you know they're successful and they have children who leave the house and don't become serial killers right because that's what we're really worried about is our children murdering a lot of people um i stare at my son all the time when he does just little things i'm like is that is that a sign is that it that's the thing yeah you do that always is that something that people do a lot i hope so is this do i need to be worried is that something that's is that terrible should i call a doctor right i think i should why are you cutting that up into so many pieces that's not right we all do that

too especially knowing this we all knowing all this information we know about murderers we're always judging our children i'm terrified yeah that's the one thing just don't kill anybody please it would be terrible to be on the news and the landon wisman did this today they're like his dad does a murder yeah that would be bad plus they'd have to interview you and you'd be like look i you know it'd be like robert england's uh kid just chopping up children would you just throw him under the bus at that point and just be like i knew he was no good from the time he was eight i knew it phone calls i knew it i tried i tried and i said this kid's gonna fucking kill people and that's on him he's gonna end up in prison so now

it's it's happened, and I expected it. I told him. I'm not surprised. Put it that way. I didn't mean to tell everybody else. I told him. He knew. He was a bad seed from the start.

There was no question about this shit. I've been beating the shit out of him for years trying to knock it out of him. It's strange that he would turn violent. I don't get it, personally. All those beatings did nothing. So summer of 2009 comes around they've been married for 31 years they have two adult children and this is a this is a success story in terms of a relationship yeah this doesn't last uh not everyone's relationship is this good so uh

yeah they're doing well um that becomes a little bit strained in the summer of 2009 and i don't know if it's kind of an empty nest thing. And she's trying to find her way as well. Because once the kids are grown up and out of the house, you know, he's the fire chief. That's his identity. Maybe she kind of wants to be something besides the fire chief's wife. Because at this point, that's all.

She's the fire chief's wife. She never did anything. She didn't do much on her own, no. Well, she was raising children and, you know, whatever whatever and she was doing her part in the family's deal and then by the time they're grown up though she feels kind of unfulfilled you know she's in her 50 years old and she's feeling like yeah i have to do something with myself here here so she does she starts a real estate class in summer of 2009 which is an odd time to want to sell real estate after the largest crater of real estate. Maybe she's going forward thinking and be like, in 35 years, by the time I'm certified, I'm going to be in.

And also, maybe it's just something she was interested in and something she wanted to see if she wanted to do or whatever. So she does it. Summer of 2009, she enrolls in a class that's three days a week for three weeks is how it works. Oh, it takes. Yeah, three days a week for three weeks and you can be a real estate agent. Well, I mean, that's all it takes to say what? That's the other bathroom. Good point.

What the fuck? Have you ever thought? Okay. We've all looked at houses. All right. If you're over 25, we've all at least looked. Even if you weren't going to buy something, you've taken a tour of a house. Even when you rented, you still have to go look have you ever thought the person showing you

the house knew anything more about it than you did honestly never no no because they'd say stuff and you go well doesn't it's the listing says this and they go oh yeah they don't fucking know anything about this fucking house they don't know shit they're like this is all tile yeah that's linoleum lady you don't know anything the only reason he takes this class they take the class i think for contracts and shit you have to know certain things of whatever a procedure but i mean for the fucking house that's anybody can fucking walk you through for the mls yeah that's what it is to get that key for that little box that's on the doorknob to get the other key out that's what you need this for basically you have to make sure you're reliable enough to show up three days a week for three weeks he's not good enough to give him the key now you're ready for the key

here it is now you can go into people's houses but yeah they don't know fucking shit about houses when you go into it's true they never know anything so she becomes friends with a with a man named mark holbrook at the time there. So both of them are married. They just are friends during the class. They part ways as friends. That's it. It's just, you know, they seem to get along during the class.

That's where they met. That's where you meet, which is, I mean, if you're taking one of these, anybody who's ever been in like a class like this, you got to find somebody to talk to on the lunch break, on the breaks and all that.

Otherwise, you will lose your mind. I'm going to have to do this for three days a week for the next three weeks. That's nine days that I have to fucking be here. Class is an unnatural environment for an adult. It's the worst. Yeah. Once you're, I don't know, once I was out of school, I don't know, three days or so,

any classroom setting after that, I'm just fidgety. I'm like, I shouldn't be here. You got to find that one person that takes it as serious as you do. Yeah. At least close to sarcastic enough whether it's someone you can talk shit whatever spectrum of serious you're taking yeah yeah somebody in that same color scheme need someone to roll your eyes at right that's what you need really or with yeah well and then they roll them back at you and so with yeah

you're right so they're both married they part ways it's all good um but weeks later they end up meeting again for the uh for the real estate test that they'd been studying for, which is in Tulsa. So they meet up in Tulsa for this real estate test that they're taking. So it's the whole class. I mean, they don't like meat special, just the two of them. And Holbrook here, he says that they went to lunch after the test because, you know, why not? They've been talking all this time. So they took the test. They went to lunch after the test because, you know, why not? They've been talking all this time. So they took the test.

They went to lunch. And Holbrook says, quote, at that point, we started talking more on a personal level. Oh, boy. We started to have feelings toward each other more than friends. No, they've been having those a while. Yeah, that's what I mean. They've been flirting in class. Nice tacos.

You like your ass licked? Yeah. Nobody says that. No one says that. That's true. Yeah, that's a good point. Well, actually. Go on.

Who hasn't said that? Who hasn't offered some ass licking over a taco or anything, really? A soft taco, a fajita, really whatever you want, any food you can think of here. I like that you ordered the barbacoa there. That's good stuff. uh like your asshole lick you pass the salsa no the green one you like your asshole that comes up i think right yeah my wife hates it what about you what about you good stuff because that's what it is one of them is running down their spouse and talking about you know i mean comparing it yeah maybe there's somebody else either that or they're like

pretending they don't exist one or the other i don't know which one there's only two ways to approach that i feel like is either yeah you can't both complain about your spouses or that you can act like they're like oh yeah that's an abstract idea that they're both married but they she's not like so my last night i went with my husband to the fucking whatever. That doesn't come up. Unless it's last night I went with my husband to this and it was terrible. You know what? He didn't even lick my ass.

Didn't even lick? Not even for a second. He didn't even just do a little sweep on the way. Nothing. He did not even a little. They are two inches apart. He's never once missed. Not even two inches.

But he never does it. He refuses, I feel like like i'm trying to make him move real quick and still he's on top of it so uh a few weeks later though that's all that's all that happened there they're just whatever you know they they meet for lunch and they talk for lunch it becomes more than friends but uh you know they're still kind of feeling each other out but a few weeks later in december of 2009 they begin to have sex with each other oh no but not like by themselves right yeah they're not fucking themselves together yeah together all right good for you yeah it's pretty good you're better not having sex with other people but just both of them i've always heard of that that that's like a thing that some people do just like

jerk off together and that's fucking weird i mean unless they're called religious people because that's because that is less god hates that less than sex, apparently. And he likes butt sex, too. He loves it. But he hates it in the vagina. Can't stand it. Not a fan of... That's the worst. Hates it. He hates it. God's gay is what I found out.

He's got a baby. You either jerk off together or put it in a butt. That's it. No, that's not true, probably. No. That's not true. In the Bible, he hates... It might be.

I think in the bible he hates the butt sex too why i don't well because that doesn't make babies you know what i don't care he needs is more people to put money in i think if god met a gay couple he changed his mind completely he'd be like these two are terrific they get along they get along plus they're just nicer right i'm sorry i'll tell you there's a lot of straight people listening right now. We're straight. Gay people are nicer than you. It's true.

They're better people. I'm sorry. You might not like whatever they're doing. None of your fucking business, number one. And number two, they are nicer than you. It's true. And they're not shitting out kids polluting the earth all over the place, too. Physically impossible.

Physically impossible. We are small town murderers, pro-gay sex of every kind say that right fucking now go please i buy i implore you enjoy yes so they meet a few weeks later at uh at at a park and a park in walitka which is roughly halfway between his home and her home. He lives in Hugo and she lives in Mustang. And they talk and they fuck in a park, which is weird. I have pictures of the park, too. It's very, very weird.

In the car in the park or just in the fucking park? I assume in a car. I assume they were on a picnic table. Right on the top of the table there, going to town, humping away at each other there. Under a cabana that some family rented for their birthday no no kids the next table that one's you don't want that table those that's taken so they met a few weeks later there and uh they're they're they keep it they have feelings for each other you know what i mean so um god

damn it if you saw this park you you still wouldn't want to be fucking. No. It fucking has to be amazing to want it in this park. Put it that way. Yeah. Great fucking. I don't think there's any park that I want that in. Especially this one.

It just looks like a dried up. Yeah. It's a pretty sad looking park. So, they continued talking. And at this point, they started talking about what if they left their spouses and got married together. Oh, no. With each other.

So, yeah. This happens with these relationships. They start thinking about kind of a fantasy of what if we did this? What if we did that? They would spend weekends together whenever they could get away from their respective families and come up with some kind of excuse. They'd try to spend weekends together. So this is like months. This is going on four or five months of kind of a torrid affair here now he actually uh holbrook ends up moving out of his house telling his wife he wants a

divorce so he takes it to the next level of being serious but he never actually files for divorce he just says he wants to and this happens in de in December of 2009, a few months after they met and a few months after they've been fucking for a while. Now, January of 2010, Becky here, Rebecca, Brian, she files for divorce from Keith. But he wasn't expecting this because he thought everything was fine. She starts taking these real estate classes. Next thing you know, she wants a divorce. And then this guy's moving out of his house. So their plan is kind of set in motion. And like I said, too, you never know what's in their minds or what's in her mind. Maybe she's thinking, this guy that I'm into is a sign that I need a divorce either way, whether I'm going to end up with this guy or not.

You know what I mean? Who knows? She might just be ending it just so she can well i mean strike out on her own we don't know it has to give you all kinds of ideas of of she's not happy in whatever relationship he's in because she she's got a fire chief that's i mean he could retire pretty soon you know yeah he's got a pension and all that your your life's taken care of she's got a really or you can take a chance with this guy who's also just now starting in real estate in 2010 so yeah not not great um so she files for divorce in january of 2010

and uh she and holbrook are all set to spend a weekend together at a cabin that she rented in broken bow oh which sounds very romantic it actually is a uh a very hot spot for love i'm just kidding i have no fucking clue you said that with dead serious i looked in your eyes i'm like you have no idea what you're talking about i know you don't know that for sure that's's why I had to laugh. It's in the country song. Oh, is it really? It's a hot spot for love. Is that what they say?

He says, the girl from Broken Bow that broke my heart. That's what he says. Which is like, that gives you an idea. That's where all the hot chicks are. That'll break your heart. I suppose. Well, they have cabins to fucking up there. So maybe that's why his heart's broken. He's like, man, I got some fucking in that cabin.

Who knows? Never got over it. He didn't say her name wasn't becky it could have been that's we don't know here so uh he holbrook will say that the longest amount of time that that he spent with him with her was over this weekend that's the longest amount of time they actually spent together two maybe three days that's yeah because they're they're seeing each other for a day here and there they're sneaking around and doing that shit but he said over the course of this weekend over seeing her for a few days he said that his feelings started to change surprise surprise not quite the same person i thought you were that's who you are oh no uh well he says quote i started to realize she wasn't the person I thought she was. Yeah.

She became manipulative. She was wanting me to divorce my wife sooner than I wanted to. I wasn't going to do that. I was going to do it on my time. So she was she was pressuring him because obviously, too, she filed for divorce. So she's worried that he's not going to file for divorce and leave her hanging out there by herself, which is a fair emotion for her to have. But one of the perils of this. That's a chance.

That's why you that's why this is a fucking risky proposition. And she starts trying to convince him of it. And he's not wanting to do it. So they do just enjoy two fucking days. Forty eight hours. Absolutely. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. We've been married for 40 years and we hate each other. So they do that. Can we just enjoy two fucking days? 48 hours. That's all we're doing. Nope, nope, nope, nope, nope. Nope.

We've been married for 40 years and we hate each other. So let's argue. That's what's going on here. Let's treat it like that. Let's treat it like that. So Holbrook decided at the end of that weekend that he wanted to end things with Rebecca. He said, this isn't going anywhere. I'm not comfortable with her pressuring me, blah, blah, blah. You're more of a pain in the ass than the pain in the ass yeah i really thought i was getting

away with something but it turns out uh you're pressuring me more than her that's what it is yeah he realized that he liked his wife better than that he thought he hated so yeah uh so they both agreed to tell their spouses as well which i I don't know. I don't understand why that would be. But I guess honesty is the best policy. What the fuck? Question mark. I mean, you've gotten away with it. It just seems like all this is going to do is hurt these people.

Call that a wash. Well, you've already filed for divorce against Keith. This guy moved out. There's been a lot of pain. You don't have to compound it. I assure you, if he's moved out and you already filed for divorce against keith you know this guy moved out there's been a lot of pain you don't have to compound it i assure you if he's moved out and you've filed for divorce they both already assume that there's that's fine yeah exactly just leave it be so anyway the next day after they ended it holbrook gets a call from keith bryan fire chief keith over here and uh becky is also on the line so it it's two of them on the line hi how you doing oh my husband's on the line you're what pardon you know Keith that large fire chief gentleman prank

caller that's my husband yeah he's upset about you having sex with me and would like to talk to you so I gotta go what the fuck kind of phone call is this what I bet you're breaking up it's a landline i don't get what and then his wife who is that ah nobody i should have never switched to that low discount phone service because this just is not working oh man so uh yeah so holbrook said that they talked and holbrook confirmed the affair to keith yeah and apologized to him this is a very weird formal yeah interaction i i wouldn't want it i don't want to know what is going on here these people are you know what we're saying this is so weird i guess this is mature yeah but it's weird some adult shit it's way too adult i'll never be this mature i'll tell you that right now i'll never be this mature. I'll tell you that right now.

I'll never be this mature. No. I'm nowhere near it now. So I can't imagine when it's going to happen. It's not going to kick in in the next five years. You imagine Sarah comes home and goes, look, I just want to get back together. Yeah. I want you to meet who I've been fucking.

Let me have a chat with the young man. No. We're not doing this. Find out what he liked. No, we're not doing this. Find out what he liked. No, it's not fucking happening. So Jesus Christ. What an awful situation. He apologized.

Holbrook said, quote, I made a vow to him not to have any more contact with her. He agreed we should try to reconcile with our spouses and get on with our lives. So these guys had like a fucking heart to heart. They had like a heart to heart. Sat down like, yeah, you know, it's been tough on me. Well, you know what? Let's get let's let's try to work it out with our spouses. Have a good.

So beers next Saturday. I can't see watching the Sooner game. Like, what is happening? Why is this happening? Jesus Christ. Boy, oh, boy. So Holbrook also said, quote, from the the very beginning we both agreed if any of us had had felt uh uncomfortable we would call it off i realized i still loved my wife and so that's what

his deal was you know he just wanted out he realized he didn't like her and he did like his wife he says quote keith bryan called me and we discussed the affair he wasn't happy about the situation but he wasn't screaming or acting mad. Jesus, this Keith is a calm cat. Well, I mean, he's got to go into burning buildings. He's got his nerves under control. Yeah, that's the thing here. So he says, I told him I would have no more contact with his wife.

Now, Rebecca was a different story. The guys get together, they have a chat, and they're like, all right, well, go our separate ways. Rebecca was pissed off. She was mad that he ended it because she had filed for divorce and she feels like he was like abandoning her so she called holbrook's wife uh also his parents no and his son what are you doing as well everybody she could call that knows him she called to go hi i'm this woman that your dad's having an affair with oh my god i just wanted to let you know that no okay this is just i would like to make your father's life hell

and uh i'm being angry she's angry she's pissed and she's gonna tell everybody about it your father and i had plans for me to be your stepmom but that's not happening that's not happening sorry the kid's like i'm 27 i don't need stepmom. I don't know what you're talking about. I have three kids of my own. My one kid's in the second grade. This is really outside of my realm of giving a shit. Yeah, I know who you are. My grandma just called me and told me how fucking wacko you are.

Yeah, trust me. Told me you just called her. Yeah, also. It's the equivalent of going through his his facebook friends just telling them all i got a call from his 10th grade science teacher and uh he said that uh he was upset with my behavior with having an affair with this woman why is she telling everybody so a month after it ends they uh he said that brian called him and rebecca called hallbrook this is a month after everything and says that she's pregnant oh no hi i'm pregnant left a message saying by the way pregnant goddamn broken bow all yours yeah

broken bow will make you fertile that's what it's why it's called that it's oh my god open open tube yeah open uterus ovary fallopian all that, yeah, all that stuff in there. All that plumbing and things. So, yeah, he said he never returned the call because he thought she was lying, so he just didn't return the call. Oh, he got that on his answering machine? Yeah. Jesus.

Hey, just wanted to let you know, all knocked up. Should probably tell the wife since you like telling your wife everything. And I got to go because I i gotta call your kid about this cool all right i'm gonna call your grandma and i'll let you know when i get off the phone with her and uh yeah i'll go from there amazon's here they said your ex-girlfriend's pregnant weird right even they know everyone knows i'm gonna call your boss and let's get this over with cool so becky though did not stop contacting him rebecca kept pushing and kept pushing he said over the next few months she

drove to where he lived in hugo and uh would show up she also showed up at his office showed up as at his home would just show up out of nowhere he said quote i never called her or told her to come see me and a matter of fact he didn't return calls that came into him from her so he was very perplexed by this whole thing here so while that's all going on by the way while she's showing up and calling everyone that he knows and shit like that uh the bryans at the same time rebecca and keith on the surface are trying to reconcile uh rebecca's acting like she's all about keith and everything's fine and uh yeah the rebecca rebecca's brother said that he had talked to rebecca and that she

said she really wanted her marriage to work and everything like that this brother said quote i saw two people working on a relationship both had indicated that they loved each other keith had constantly said how in love he was with becky keith never wavered from his feelings he didn't want a divorce didn't want to be separated didn't know what the fuck was going on so yeah um everybody says at this point all their friends say that keith really put like a full court press on to make her happy basically like he realized that maybe he was taking her for granted or you know whatever at the you know relationship so he's decided that he is going to make her happy he's going to put forth effort and do everything he can here um

another woman here who was the wife of another fire chief she said she knew them for years and once they reconciled um they were they went to the firefighters ball together in Oklahoma City and everything like that. This woman said, quote, Keith was very much a gentleman. He would pull out a chair for her. It was above and beyond what I had seen him do, trying to keep her very happy. So Keith has really tried to, you know. Be better. Yeah. Be what she wants he has doubled down and said yes i have let this be because i'll remember of course of 30 years you're gonna your relationship's

gonna have a firing job that's a wild fucking yeah shift changes yeah you're gonna have ups and downs and you know you can take someone for granted over the course of that time. So it's good to recognize that and try to fix that. That's a good thing. He he told his friends, apparently, that the marriage was going well again and things were, you know, better. But his friend here, the other firefighter's wife, said that something seemed odd about them. They were awkward. It was like they were trying hard. You know what I mean?

It was. That's the thing. You're being somebody that you're not or at least you're not used to being you're trying to be weird you're trying to date a woman you've been married to for 31 years so it's a disregard all the baggage and arguments yeah and just be like hey we this is our first date it's just a strange remember when we used to fuck in the back seat when we were in high school and now we hate each other we used to fuck in a park let's try to do that again let's go fuck on a picnic table clearly that was exciting to you you're out doing it again yeah and it's stuff we aren't doing anymore because we're used to this stuff

that's what and this woman said quote they weren't as fun loving when we used to when we would see them so they're just not the same as they used to be now holbrook says by the way that she's still showing up at his house during all of this as She showed up in his driveway in March of 2010, and a man got out of the car and approached him. But when Holbrook saw Rebecca in the car, because he was like, oh, who's this? Then he saw Rebecca in the car. He told the guy not to come any closer and to get off his property. So the guy got back in the car and left. Who the fuck was he?

That was apparently, I think it was Keith. We're not sure here. She showed up again in February of 2011. Oh my goodness. Just a year later. Where's the baby, lady? Dude, this is crazy. How long is your gestation?

Well, they had an affair for a few months. She's been pursuing him for longer than the affair went on for. Right. So it's out of, the math is wrong on this. It's done. You can't go after someone for a year from a five- on for. Right. So it's out of, the math is wrong on this. It's done. You can't go after someone for a year from a five-month affair. Right.

It's not like that. You can't do that. It should be way less than life for like. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah, if you had a five-month affair, maybe two and a half months you could pursue. After that, it's over. I'd say five days.

Five days is better, probably. So yeah, this happened here in February 2011. He was doing some work in his office when uh she got out of the passenger side of the car and approached him again so jesus christ this was a it just happened all the time here it was it was constantly happening so keith on the other hand he's kind of doing his thing at home by 2011 he's he's working on some stuff around the house he's a real handy guy everybody knows him as a you know he always has a tool for a neighbor to

borrow he's always knows how to fix shit he's that kind of guy always know that shit yeah he's resourceful so he had a big shop out back apparently and the neighbors everybody says that keith would build something or be working on something or always doing something in the yard some kind of improvement or something he was building at this moment a hot tub area hell yeah he's putting together he's trying to get the romance back into marriage here see how long i can hold my breath for you that's right it's a fucking important skill in this world so he was building a brick wall around a tub. That was his deal here. In my head, I just saw like a bathtub. Yeah, that's what I saw around him. That ought to do it.

She ought to fuck me in there, right? Yeah, it's going to be just like old times. It's like a bucket over a fire warming it. I'm going to fart in that water and it's going to be bubbling. It's going to be a bubbling. We're having barbecue then we're going in the hot tub we don't have a hot tub we do now it's probably not that but that's what i say that's what i see too no it's a nice hot tub area he's building a brick wall around the tub and everybody would joke about it because he's super anal about this

shit yeah like he would build a whole row see that it wasn't perfectly straight tear up the bricks and do it again wow like he was extremely he wanted this to be perfect as all the projects he does everybody said that but the hot tubby really because this is a big addition yeah you don't want this to be fucked up you know ugly slapped together looking you know that that looks like shit so there was even a uh a cement mixture there uh and and in the last he basically by september he's putting in the last row of bricks and doing everything like that um now randy dunbar is a neighbor of his here and uh dunbar was working in his yard about September of 2011. This dude's working in his yard, and he said a guy came up to him, a stranger, approached him in his own yard, which is what you want, obviously.

Think, what religion are you trying to sell me? Why are you on my property? Yeah, he said it was a white male, medium build. He asked if this man, Randy Dunbar, needed any help with any kind of work around the yard you need any lawn work done yeah he's going around asking for work basically so it's time to sell the house yeah they found us this harry has run to shit apparently fucking jesus weird people popping in asking to do odd jobs yeah unless you're 12 don't ask me to mow my lawn you're a full-grown man riding a bicycle you're not mowing my lawn fix my sprinklers i'm moving yeah exactly you're 12 don't ask me to mow my lawn you're a full-grown man riding a bicycle

you're not mowing my lawn fix my sprinklers i'm moving yeah exactly you're just gonna take them apart and make a meth pipe out of them fucking get out of here it's going up for sale tomorrow not happening yeah so he said do you need any yard work done now dunbar here he said he was a little uneasy about the guy and uh said you know just said he wasn't didn't get a good vibe off the guy. And he said that he did not have any work here. But, you know, other people might. And so the guy asked is Dunbar, do you know if any of your neighbors need any work done? And basically he said he wasn't going to volunteer specific neighbors.

He's like, you can ask people beats the shit out of me. So that's not the answer man no he said nope no everybody around here hires it out to licensed and bonded people get the fuck out of here out of my fucking yard instead he was like i mean you could ask get out of my yard basically my kids are starting to stare at you i don't like that i don't want them to watch to fucking look up to you. Or have whatever failure stench is on you. Hey, that guy's pretty cool.

No! He's not. Cover the kid's ears. He's like, that guy doesn't have a license. He's figuring it out. He's good. They took it from him. That's why. Get the fuck in the house.

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So, yeah, so September 20th comes around of 2011. Now, all day this is happening. Rebecca and Keith are sending like text messages back and forth to each other. And some of them are flirty. So they're trying to get the fire back in it here. And some of them are flirty. And some of them are, you know, do you want me to stop and get something to eat? Shit like that.

You're spoiling the mood. Yeah. Tell me how you just shaved again. Yeah. Tell oh arby's huh the most sensual of the fast food shames you want to lick beef and cheddar off of what you ever seen a roast beef sandwich from arby's so uh he said uh you want me to get you something to eat i'm on my way home and she said are you getting hot and bothered thinking of me in your council meeting because he was in a council meeting so she was like trying to flirt back with him um on the way home here uh becky stops because she was out becky stops and uh to to help her friend debbie figure out what to wear on a date that night. Her friend Debbie Proctor is going on a date.

And so Proctor goes on the date. And when she's done, she stops by Rebecca and Keith's house to tell her how it went. Let's see if my outfit got him hot and fucking bothered here. So you know how it is. So she gets there. Proctor. She parks in their driveway. She doesn't remember if the garage was up or down is. So she gets there, Proctor. She parks in their driveway. She doesn't remember if the garage was up or down or whatever when she got there.

But she says she just parked in the driveway. Now she walks around the back of the house and where they might be outside. And Becky says to come over and have a smoke with her. Right. So they're sitting around smoking a cigarette, talking about the night's events. And yeah, they're talking now while this is happening keith goes in and makes a fresh pot of iced tea for becky and their you know and her friend and everything like that now proctor stays about 45 minutes um somewhere around 9 30 in there

and she says nothing was out of the ordinary everybody's drinking iced tea and smoking and talking about dates and yeah hung out with those two. And she took off. They talked about politics a bit. Yeah. In 2011, they talked about politics. And Becky was teasing Keith saying that he looked like Charlie Sheen. What?

He's got AIDS? Yeah, he looks very thin and gaunt. You're looking gaunt. What, do I have two teeth in my head? What are you doing right now? Why are you being so mean to me? How many fucking women have you had sex with? Fucking snorted coke off of them, you disgusting pig.

He didn't like that very much, but they were joking. They were teasing him, saying that he was really good looking, and at one point Becky tells Proctor that it's time to go. I guess she's gonna, she can't take it anymore. She's gotta to jump Keith's bones here. So Becky walks her out through the house and through the garage to Debbie's car. And Debbie said there was a light on in the garage when she went through there.

And they have, you know, say goodbye. Glad your date went well. You know, ice down that pussy. That's not what she says. That's what girls tell each other, right? I don't know. You had a good day good i sit down they answer the phone and go hi slut well yeah i don't know like guys tell each other after a ball game you know they just ice down that shoulder like yeah i sit down there i don't know i don't know how that works i never answer the phone from you and go what's up slut what's up whore maybe i

never you should some of you skanky bitch? But back in the day, guys used to greet each other with gay slurs. Right. Which is, I think, the equivalent. You know what I mean? That is true. Yeah. That is true.

That's what they always used to be. That was how friends talked to each other. That's pretty funny. At least where I'm from. I might start now. I'll own you a whore and a slut. All right, do it. Bitch ass slut.

Bitch ass skank. I don't know, you fucking dirty whore. I slut all right do it that's a lot i don't know you fucking dirty whore i'm gonna say that all the time you fucking diseased slut what are you doing not much you fucking pig what are you up to this might be the most fun conversation we ever had we're gonna have that yeah girls do and they do they do they have a great time that's why they're all we're gonna do for now yeah like what's up fucking slut you come back all the time yeah it's something to do from now on what's happening you tuna smelling skank nice to see you good to talk to you i'm just gonna facetime you constantly we should do that from now on insults about girls to you yeah that's

what we should do we should talk to each other like we think girls talk to each other anytime i see any anything that i want to call a woman something terrible i'm calling you just call me calling you those yeah it's perfect it's perfect how often does that happen oh okay i'm like how often do you want to call women something terrible what's going on with two women in the grocery store the other day wearing masks talking about i'm gonna come over your house we'll have a pork line and she's like yeah yeah come over and come swimming all day with us me and my family the fuck are you talking no pandemic go home your fucking masks i want to do live shows that's when i'll call you i'll go what's up you two-faced bitch that's it my new policy you don't have a fucking mask on i get to smoke right in your face that's how that works that's it i light up a cigarette and i blow it right in your face like you don't like that put on a mask i don't like

your contagions you fucking cocksucker i swear to god i want to go on the road i don't care whether you like the fucking mask or not i don't care i don't care about anything i just want to go on the road so uh 10 p.m that night after deb Debbie leaves and all that shit, 10 p.m., there's apparently going to be some fucking going on because, you know, Keith is such a hot man. Hot Charlie Sheen looking specimen. 2010. Yeah. That's not a good Charlie Sheen.

It's bad Charlie Sheen. Maybe they were talking about like Major League Charlie Sheen. It better be. You know what I mean? Fucking. Platoon Charlie Sheen. At minimum, hot shots Charlie Sheen. Hot shots hot shots charlie that might even be too late uh what's the one with him and christy swanson there oh the chase charlie that's a good charlie sheen even ferris

bueller in the police station charlie sheen oh yeah yeah talking to jennifer gray that's fine you remember the cameos of these unbelievable guys that i don't remember until you go this spot holy shit that is him wow so fucking 10 p.m rebecca calls 9-1-1 okay that's a problem uh she tells 9-1-1 quote he's dripping He's like moving. And she says, I've got to have somebody here. That's what she says. Her voice is heard during the first 17 seconds of the first call. And it said she was on her cell phone here. And then the phone goes dead.

Okay. Before that, she asked if she's reached the Mustang police. And she begins to describe, quote, a young man about 25. And then her voice drops off. So she keeps losing her perception here. So she calls back from a landline better. And this lasts about a minute, 20 seconds, where she says that a man about 25 or 26 years old wearing a hoodedhirt, who walked in through the garage door of their home that she left open when she walked Debbie out.

She says, quote, he shot my husband in the head. My husband is laying there bleeding on my couch right now, and the shooter turned around to me and said, ma'am, I'm so sorry, but your husband should have hired me. And she says, they say that she sounds you know upset and increasingly

desperate as the call goes on uh she says oh my god he's in a little itty bitty pickup okay he's going down the street and uh she says it's a dark colored pickup truck driving west on the street that's the 911 call so this is pretty crazy uh obviously that's a wild thing and that's why you tell people on your property no no we've contract check on the neighbors right no um so the calls end soon after that she says she has to go and she says that he's gasping for air and she wants to try to help him uh so a local police officer arrived at the house there and rebecca brian was in her garage when he arrived. She's in the garage. And she, when the police officer shows up, he is obviously like, where's your husband? What's going on here? Rather than say he's inside in the living room, go try to help him.

She starts, she brings up a previous burglary that happened there. That's what she starts bringing up immediately. She's like, there was this burglary that happened. The officer said, well, that's, we're going to concentrate on the thing that happened today you know your husband being shot that's a little more important than a you know years old burglary we'll investigate it once we get him stable that's fine let's deal with that uh she finally let him into the living room where she was like well here he is and he was still breathing and barely alive so she just left him sitting in there um later here crime scene investigators are collecting uh you know

residue and shit from the from the crime scene doing everything like that and she laughed at them at the time and said that she thought what they were doing was funny um she said quote that yeah this is later on it comes out this is a police detective that was that were there that was there she says quote brian said brian said she watches the tv show csi and knows about all this stuff so she thought it was pretty cool what they were doing it's like oh wow you're doing it just like the tv show yeah that's kind of the ideal yeah you know they did that based on what we do not we aren't doing this based on the show. I was going to say, we used to have different procedures, but then we saw William Peterson poking around,

and we were like, David Caruso might have a point. Maybe we should do it that way instead. You know, that Mark Helgenberger is great at this. She always solves her cases. We're like, you know, 50-50. Every episode, nailing it. She fucking crushes that shit, so we're going to switch to that. Maybe we should just get hotter and dye our hair red.

Maybe. Should we do that? Let's try that. Should we throw away our TV career to have a failed movie career and then go back to TV and do this? Is that what we should do? Maybe. Okay. Poor David Caruso.

Sorry. He thought he was such hot shit. I'm going to be a movie star no you're not no you're not you're gonna go back and be a tv star once again you are not a movie star he really wanted to be a movie star that guy so um not happening anyway they uh they take him to the hospital keith's taken to the hospital. He's breathing still. He's still alive. And they take him to the hospital.

Apparently, while he's being carted out on the stretcher, being cared for, Rebecca starts calling people and telling them that Keith's dead. Wow. He's not even dead. He's alive still. She's like, yep, Keith's dead. Somebody shot him and he died. Shot on TV. They're like, ma'am, we're going to the emergency room of so-and-so.

She's like, yeah, he's going to die. No, no, don't listen to them. He's going to die. He's dead. He's dead. They don't know what they're talking about. So he's taken there. Now, the shooting here, he's shot once in the side of the head.

One shot. One shot. One shot. Gabby Giffords can survive it. So can he. That's what I mean. It's possible so she claimed that the shot was fired by an intruder she said she saw him walk into the house from the garage but uh apparently this shot was in the side of the head so they're saying that keith must not

have heard this person or seen him coming because keith never turned his head to look because otherwise the shot would have been in his face instead of the side of his head. So, yeah. So this is where it gets really weird here, okay? On the way to the hospital now, she's going to the hospital and her friends come over because she's calling her friends,

telling them Keith's dead. So they all fucking rum rush to the house. And so she goes with her friends to the hospital. They drive her, which, you know, she shouldn't be driving herself probably if she would be. If, I don't know, if someone runs in the house and shot your spouse, you might be a little flustered and not want to drive. And then they spoke to you and then walked out.

But left you living for some reason. That would be a weird feeling. While this is going on, they're driving to the hospital uh rebecca isn't even talking about keith she's talking about the fact that she was having an affair with some other guy and was showing her friends pictures of his dick oh my god on the way she's like check this dude's dick out who i'm fucking isn't it it's a pretty sweet one right wow i mean it's a yeah that's what she's doing on the way to the hospital the friends isn't it it's a pretty sweet one right wow i mean it's a yeah that's what she's doing on the way to the hospital the friends are like um it's a terrific penis rebecca but

we're you know yeah context here sweetheart you know what i'm saying later on i'd love to see a big giant dick that's great but right now i'm just i'm driving one so along with the police investigation let's do that after we get him stable let's try that here um so yeah she's like yeah we'll see if he's alive but this dick gotta show you so uh she had an interview also with the police at the hospital a few hours after the shooting and she said in the interview quote we're quite in love he's like the most amazing husband yeah so she's telling the cops she's just you know devastated here look at the dick on this guy but by the way halfway to his knee i'm just saying it's impressive it's impressive it's a grower not a shy i understand

but boy when he gets excited oh man so the investigation continues here. And OSBI, which is Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation, agents go do everything here. They look through the Brian home in the hours after the shooting. They check out everything. Now, one of the investigators finds a gun box for a Ruger LCP 380 semi-automatic pistol. So a little 380 pistol here under the mattress on Becky's side of the bed, of the bed in the couple's living room, on Becky's side of the couch. I'm sorry, the mattress has like,

there's like a mattress on top of it there, along with several boxes of ammunition. So the other agent searched the home's utility room and he noticed a blanket through the clear drawer of the you know the dryer so you know how the dryer has the window he sees there's a blanket in the dryer through the door so he pulled out the blanket and as he pulled it out several items fell to the floor what were they they crashed down to the floor these items included a ruger 380 semi-auto pistol a spent shell casing and a rubber glove.

That's not how you clean those. That's the thing. And it'll just bang around in the dryer. Even if your pants have just a big button on them. Clang, clang, clang, every goddamn time. Dry them in the morning. Fuck it. Oh, Jesus Christ.

Never mind. Yeah, when I had an apartment, my washing drawer were in the apartment. I was like, when I moved in, I was like, this is a great thing. Yeah, no, it's not. And by the apartment when i moved in i was like this is a great thing yeah no it's not by the time i moved out i was like fuck this place sucks once a week i got no sleep yeah uh now the blanket had several round holes in it as well perfectly round holes that were like size of a 380 bullet yeah per se right there several several and uh he said also the investigator said the serial number on the gun matched the serial number on the gun box found under the mattress okay so uh police officers they look around uh i guess brian took off her shirt okay this is a weird thing at the

hospital they asked her would you take off your shirt uh you know we need your clothes for evidence so immediately she took off her shirt and had no bra bra on or anything she didn't say like can i go in the bathroom and shane she just took her shirt off and stood there in a room full of cops with her tits out perfectly content with i mean hey you're confident in yourself great uh you know i don't have that kind of confidence in my body, but some people do. And I envy them. I mean, imagine if you were just like, there you go. Hands on the hips, cock swinging. No.

I don't even want to take my shirt off in front of people. No. I hate it. Well, she doesn't mind at all, apparently. She just does it. She's like a blonde from Reno 911. Oh, my God. She would do that.

Oh, yeah. Well, in the show, yeah, that character. Sure. Here you go. There you go there you go here bobble them around investigate away so the blanket is a throw blanket that's kept in the back of their couch it's a fire it's got like fire flames all over it basically and uh also the glove had her dna in it so this is a problem here. This looks bad. She says, so they're like, let's get this story again, because they like to have you tell the story 20 times.

She said she followed this intruder out of her garage to the door after he shot her husband and saw him get into a small dark pickup. So you usually follow people who fire gunshots at your husband. Yeah. Usually go the opposite way of them. You don't follow them out. But apparently. unless you've got a bigger gun yeah well she was doing apparently wanted to really get out there see what she was investigating on her own that's what it is here so uh yeah this is uh how so the police officer asked her quote if this person immediately after shooting keith bryan departed the house out of the garage door how could they have deposited the gun the blanket and the casing in the dryer without you knowing about it basically

how does that happen which is a obvious fucking question here and now this gun also is the gun that she's known to carry around in her purse this 380 and the utility room where they found where the dryer is is not on the path uh where she said that the killer took because she said he went right out the garage door and the utility room is not on the way to the garage so that's a problem here so it's a little everything's a little kind of up in the air so back to that hospital interview when they're there which she's got her i don't know if she put a shirt on during the interview now i hope she took it off of the shirt and was like what questions would you like me to ask? And just sat there

just with her tits out the whole time. And the cop really digging her tits was like, I have a lot of questions. This is going to take a while. It's going to take a long time. So, what'd you do on the weekends? Can you explain the Big Bang Theory to me?

What kind of movies do you like? She explains the whole Big Bang Scientific Theory and then he goes, no, I meant the TV show. Can you do that now? Let me ask you this. Yeah. Do you like Italian food? Because I know a great place.

He's just trying to hook up over here. So, yeah, in the hospital interview, she says again that the intruder had apologized after shooting her husband. She said that he should have fucking hired me was the exact words the guy used she said that they had been watching carrie the horror movie i don't know this i think that was still didn't have the new one by then did they 2010 so they came out with a new version of it maybe but even if they didn't that's a terrible last viewing yeah that's what you're watching car Carrie, that's depressing. It's the first one. Bad movie.

Yeah, that's bad movie. It's kind of gross, but it's whatever. She graphically described the shooting, saying that Keith's eyes bulged out and everything like very graphically in detail. She admitted she had filed for divorce the year before and had moved out for a time, but they were reconciling. She said, told them, quote, Yes, we had our problems. He was like a totally different person. After I came back, we were quite in love. So there's that. And she told the police, Look, I was sitting in a chair in the living room when I saw this guy, 25, 26 year old white guy walk in through the garage, shoots Keith in the head.

Just as Keith was sitting down on the couch, she said, the guy said, I'm sorry. He should have fucking hired me. Took off through the garage. I followed him and all of that. So they said, how did he put the thing in the utility room? She's I have no idea. He must really be quick. He's a quick one.

That one. So Keith Bryan is still being treated at the hospital here about 6 a.m the next morning he dies at 52 years old here at the medical center in oklahoma city the ou medical center uh sooners yeah yeah so anyway uh two bastards uh police uh check to see who has been turned down for a job by keith at maybe at the fire department they're thinking maybe this was some guy trying to be a fireman and yeah people get pissed off at him for that but no one has even been interviewed or considered for a job since 2007 it's a small department and they have their coverage so it's been three years since no one's

gonna hold a grudge for four years and then shoot the guy over a fucking fireman job. Hopefully, he would have found something by then. Another town's fire department, something. But right away, police rush to protect Keith Bryant. Who's that? The Oklahoma City fire chief. Oh, no. Who is very often confused with our key.

Oh, no. Because they're from right there and they're both fire chiefs. Police immediately go to his home, rouse him from fucking bed, tell him that his family needs to be protected. You're all in danger. You're in danger. Literally, they rush him into police protection and they immediately go to see if maybe there's a disgruntled applicant to the Oklahoma City Fire Department that this guy turned away. A killer would look him up, get the wrong fucking guy, go to his house. It's a fire chief, fire chief, and shoot this guy in the fucking head.

They're like, this could be a complete mistake, which is insane. Think about that. So the medical examiner testifies later on. Examiner testifies later on. They're talking about that. The basically the the gun was the person was standing within seven inches of of Keith when he was shot right there. Right there. It's Dr. Eric Pfeiffer. He says that Keith Bryan suffered a severe brain laceration from the bullet, which entered on the left side of his head and exited on the right.

He says, quote, I called it close contact. I don't think it was a distant gunshot wound. from the bullet which entered on the left side of his head and exited on the right uh he says quote i called it close contact i don't think it was a distant gunshot wound uh they also testify later on that microscopic fibers in brian's head that could have been from a blanket being held over the gun muzzle which would also make sense for the multiple bullet holes in this blanket if you bunched it up and shot it you would would end up with very much like Swiss cheese. Just like a first grader making a snowflake out of loose leaf paper. You know what I mean? Same shit.

So, yeah, that's what ends up happening there. Now, the reaction to this whole thing is fucking crazy. Obviously, one resident that said to the newspaper, is a nickels hills area resident said quote i am surprised he usually ends up being the wife though like well jesus christ they have a uh uh you know big memorial on the news for the chief and you know the chief was killed in his house and all this type of shit other residents were saying things didn't add up people everyone out there's like well i think it's the wife i don't know i heard her story literally on the news they were just pulling us over strangers

and the strangers were like i think the wife did it just just fucking polluting the jury pool like a bastard it's usually the wife is all i'm saying now damn it jesus christ now uh but other people were just sad they said they were just sad for the family and it's a real tragedy and all this type of thing so uh they you know had the american flag at half staff and they had the fire department all did a big memorial for him um it was it was pretty fucking wild uh one person one of the neighbors said quote i just cried when i heard it it's it's uh it's not the bryans i knew i said oh no this can't be our keith okay so they know him poor keith yeah everybody everybody knows him somebody just said i cried

when i heard it you don't have any connection he's just he just looked like a nice man he just looked like charlie sheen and i love major league and i didn't want to see him hurt men at work is one of my favorite films and i could not i started crying because i thought now all we have is emilio and that's bullshit and that ain't right that ain't right this is not right so uh they had a big funeral they described keith as you know everybody said he was like kind of a prankster he was like everybody said he was a funny guy he was always trying to you know talk shit and be funny and around the fire department here. His liver was donated to a person in need of a liver, which was a nice thing there.

I'm dumb. Yeah. You did that? That's so nice of him. I was like, no. After. After. After.

He did it after. He can't live without those. I think you can cut a piece off to donate. Not all of it. Not all of it. You can't just say, here it is have this you have it now so uh yeah i'm so dumb he thought one of his firefighter friends said brian thought it was hilarious rock keith did to fright he liked to frighten people he loved to scare people that was his big thing people love your wife he said quote

yeah firefighters at the station would not walk into a dark room until they knew where chief brian was yes he would like sarah who scared the shit out of jimmy on the way into the house today over the place yeah jimmy walked in and jumped doing oh my god he thought there was a snake it's the exact side yeah of a fucking rattlesnake coiled up ready to strike yeah right underneath the chair where it would fucking be. Where it would be. God damn it. That's where my wife chooses to put a rubber snake. She buys like bugs and shit and puts them all over the house

to go in the shower. There's a scorpion in there. I'm like, God damn you. I couldn't do it. It's fucking hilarious. I don't know. There's going to be a scorpion one day and you're going to go pick it up and it's going to sting me. Exactly. That's not a prank.

It's not a fucking prank. That's terrible. You're going to move into a hotel after that. You're going to get struck by a snake and the shit's going to be over because Sarah likes rubber fucking snakes. That's how it's going to end for me, people. She doesn't have to shoot me in the side of the head or wait until someone shoots me in the side of the head. She's already planted the murder seed.

Yeah, she's already planted it right now. I'll be murdered by a snake. She's tempering me to having snakes. And one day she's going to bring in a real snake. Right. And I'm going to be like, oh, yeah, right. I'm going to pick it up and I'll be killed. It'd be a different story if it wasn't shit we have here.

That's the thing, yeah. Yeah, if it was like a cobra or something, I'd be like, well, that's silly. Life-size orangutan. Yeah. As you open a door, you're like, oh my God, those don't live in the desert.

They don't live here. Obviously, I'm fine. He wandered in from outside. Put a fucking snake under the chair? That's real. It looks real. Yeah, it looks real. It looks scary.

It's, yeah. Jimmy jumped. Oh my God. Fuck that thing. I'm i'm like well she got you anyway so that's good i'm used to it now but you can still get you oh man so anyway this guy's a prankster like i said they wouldn't walk into a dark room until they knew where he is uh one firefighter said he would first reach around the corner to try and feel if the guy, if Chief was hiding in the shadows. When the guy finally decided the room was clear and reached for the light switch, Chief would grab his hand.

Oh, my God. And scare the shit out of him. That's what he would do. That was his thing that he would do. One time, he surprised his future daughter-in-law by, this is fucking funny, by sneaking up behind her and putting a uh putting a turkey decoy by her face and making noises like a turkey so he'd sneak up behind her and do like a turkey call and she'd go jesus care the shit out of her he liked doing stupid shit like that he thought it was fucking funny that was the second time he met her so he doesn't care he's just a fine

you can't be mad at a guy like that. It was just like smiling and happy and having a good time. So his one of his fire guys said, quote, if you cannot have fun, you do not want to hang around with Keith. He's a fun loving guy. They said that he sucked at golf, but he liked to play golf a lot. My kind of guy. That's right. He didn't care. And somehow he would always manage to beat his sons.

And they said that he like willed the ball in the hole because he was so competitive and he did not want to play with his sons he would never play video games with his sons because he couldn't beat them in video games no i'm not as good at those as you are so he's a very competitive guy so now after the death here the spokesperson spokesperson for the State Bureau of Investigation said they were talking to many people as they can, hoping to get some direction and get a key piece of information. They said, quote, we're doing forensic testing on the items. One of our agents did today was go back and canvas the neighborhood again, asking people if they saw or heard anything, you know, doing all this shit. They released two recordings of the 911 calls that Rebecca made and they said

that Brian was on the phone non-stop in the hours after the shooting as everybody was there. She was talking to people on the phone, telling them Keith died, having a real social time with her phone. People said that Rebecca was laughing while she was on the phone

and retelling gory details about the shooting to multiple people and laughing. And then they came in, the CSI guys, and doing all that. So they're starting to look at Rebecca a little sideways here. Then they start seeing some other things. They start looking into her phone records. And they found that that evening she had sent 10 messages to Mark Holbrook, her ex-lover here

beginning at 7.23 that evening. They said the first one was, sorry I called you, I meant to text. I still love you with all my heart and want to spend the rest of my life with you. I think about you every day. How did you stop loving me? And then the next one, tell me you hate me so i can stop loving you oh stop this

then the next one use your phone so micah won't know then the next one i'm sorry i hurt you you hurt me so bad then the next one i had no sex drive i've had i've had no sex drive since we were together i need you to be whole again. Oh, Jesus. She's getting into sex. That gets worse, too. Use your phone so Michael doesn't. Whose phone? Are you texting me on my wife's phone?

I don't know if it's that or if that's one of his kids. I don't know who the hell that is here. Then she says, please forgive me. Call me. These are all separate texts, by the way. That's too much. Varying statements of different contradictory qualities. Throughout the night.

It's super weird. Then she says, quote, Gail just got married Saturday. Okay. Please call me. I miss you. I've had no sex drive. By the way, did you hear about Gail? It was a pretty nice ceremony.

Not bad. The lunch was good. It was a chicken. You know, I prefer dark meat. It's juicier. But, you know, for a breast, they did it pretty well the sauce helped it p.s here's a pic of your dick yeah by the way not well we'll talk about it wasn't his dick she was showing a pic of what let's get into that uh don't worry about that then she says quote i went on a date with george raymond he dumped his girlfriends for me lol LOL. All I thought about was you.

Did he tell you that? So she's going on dates with other people. How about I know your husband? Yeah. Then she says, I need you. Mark Allen is another one. Then she says, okay, quote, I've never had 100 orgasms in two years with Keith, much less two weeks with you. I know what real love does now.

Please call me. And then she says, please forgive me and call me in another text. 100. Awesome. He was probably on like four. Yeah. That's not fair. She just has to be.

It must be easy. Oh, yeah. Obviously. Yeah. She's into it. Two weeks. She's into it. Yeah. She's fucking into it. weeks she's into it yeah i don't know

she's fucking into it that's why that's a lot she's really wanting to get some outside action i guess here or he might be amazing she really likes him he might be uh fucking he likes ass i mean at the at the least at the minimum to start yeah maybe that's why she's showing dick pics all around the guy's impressive so he also testifies later on about voicemails and text messages that rebecca left him less than three hours before the shooting because she still would leave text uh voicemails as well basically uh she said in one of these that she still loved him and expected to get a large inheritance soon and plan to buy a house so she could be near him they're watching a movie at this point keith and rebecca like he is fine um he says quote on the

voicemail quote she sounded like she'd been crying and drinking she said that she still loved me and wanted to be near me she told me that she was fixing to receive a large inheritance she was thinking about buying a house in hugo so she could be near me so uh the police after all this they arrest rebecca they're like this is all a little too much here uh her gun all these affairs and everything like that start that movie and then you start texting your ex-boyfriend before the nerd's even in a leather jacket yeah that's fucked up and then and then at the same time too they talked to her friends who were like well i mean she was showing us dick pics all the way to the hospital they're like well that's weird. By the way, you know what?

If she didn't kill him, she can fuck whoever she wants and show the dicks around whoever she feels like showing them to. That's fine. But the fact that she's this, if your husband just got shot, maybe just show, give a 24 hour buffer on dick pic fucking bragging. Yeah. Sharing and shit like that. Fucking bragging. Yeah, sharing and shit like that. And so she later told everyone in the car the only thing she felt guilty about was sleeping with another man on the day her husband was shot, she said.

She felt guilty about that. So her friends. Just a few hours before. Relay that to the police. And it's a guy named Wesley Hubert is this guy. He's a real estate client until the day of the shooting, obviously. A client. Yeah, she wasn't selling much real estate after that. He said that Rebecca stopped at his home in McLeod on her way back from her

home, her way back to her home in Mustang from Tulsa. He said they'd flirted before, but they'd never had sex. He said after they talked for a few minutes and then she went to the bathroom and she said, he said, quote, for a few minutes and then she went to the bathroom and she said he said quote and when she came out she was wearing a fishnet outfit it was shocking to me mainly that it actually was going to happen she had uh been alone with me before and nothing

ever happened wow she was like we are fucking and he's like i've seen so many pornos exactly like this is wild it's happening yeah and she's And after she was trying to sell me a house, even like, well, this is the master. And oh, excuse me, your nipple is out. Oh, is it? I'm sorry. Hold on. Let me even that out and take the other nipple out. And she went to the bathroom on a fishnet bodysuit.

Yeah. And I came out and was like, what's up? Do you like the living room? Let's get it on. Oh, I sure do. Oh, yeah. Oh, and then there's carl alterman as well here somebody else she was he's the one that she sent nude photos and explicit texts to the day before uh but he's another real estate agent uh he said that he and rebecca had never flirted before and knew each other only from taking real estate

classes together and uh the messages were completely out of the blue she just started sending him dirt like fucking filthy pictures and shit never seen her never flirted with her so i knew shit here's a picture of you with a carrot inside you that's nice that's crazy making a stew gross god damn it making a stew i'm my own bouillon marinating a carrot that's right i could see that yeah that's i could see that too he's like home cooking i like it so they asked him with these out of the blue and he said yes sir very much so he said that uh she wanted him to come to Tulsa and have drinks with her.

He said that the messages got extremely explicit about what she wanted to do afterwards. At one point, she wrote. I can't wait. People, when they don't realize their texts are going to get read later. It's like, you know what I'm saying? Because the text, taxi just fired off but out of context with two guys sitting around reading them off a computer screen and laughing at them it's really it gets much funnier yeah uh at one point she wrote to him that she quote

wanted to ride that tall cowboy so that's the best she's got she's not shy that's what i'm getting out of here she's not shy it's a big and rich fan apparently wow um that is fucking crazy unbelievable that's fucking wild so the theory of this she's got guys ever and this was all the day of she was trying to fuck like crazy the day yeah it's like she had like went i don't know what it was she had like went through a frenzy She's got guys ever. And this is all the day of. She was trying to fuck like crazy the day of. Hours ago. Yeah. It's like she had like went. I don't know what it was.

She had like went through a frenzy that day of like of cock kneading. Listen, man, when people realize their own mortality, they they fucking react wildly. I guess so. That's what's happening here. Yeah. Her husband's about to retire. She's got no career. I guess.

Yeah. But she is. She's doing real estate work at this point. But she probably still feels like that. She's so she's gotta get up and feel good about herself i mean yeah but jesus christ if there was some guy out there who's 50 years old not feeling great about himself and running around showing his dick to people and fucking sending explicit texts to people who've never had that relationship before we'd be like this is fucking pathetic yeah and you lose your career yeah and this is fucking pathetic either way it's pathetic if these were guys that wanted a fucker it would be different

they're adults everyone could fuck whoever they want but when it's just uninvited people you barely know and you're like here's my pussy that's a weird thing it's strange it really is it's odd to show someone your fucking stew right off the bat before they've even asked for it to show someone your fucking stew right off the bat before they've even asked for it. But, I mean, you don't know if anybody wants it unless you send it. That's the thing. Put it out there.

Sometimes it's harder to ask permission than it is to ask for forgiveness. Yeah, not with sex, though. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, sex, yeah. That's the thing that you're always told. Easier to ask forgiveness than permission. Yes, except with sex. That goes for everything that you're always told. Easier to ask forgiveness than permission. Yes, except with sex.

That goes for everything in the world except sex. But it's... Everything but sex, you should exclusively acquire permission. Because apologizing... That's a great point. Yeah, that's bad. If you have something sexual to apologize for, it's probably criminal, and that's a problem. You know what I mean?

That's a criminal issue. Unless it was like, I have bad aim. Sorry about your eye. That's a different issue. But otherwise, it's a criminal issue. Holy shit. But I mean, but when it comes to, you're not fucking at that point. She's just sending her pussy to people.

Sometimes it's easier to just be like, sorry, meant that for somebody else. You got to wait on the reaction. Dip your toe in the water. Unless you're a dude and then you send off the dick pic and they go, what the fuck? You can't say, sorry, meant that for someone else. Yeah, that's never going to go over well. You're still a piece of shit. See, men are never offended by a naked.

That's the thing. We're like, oh, I'm not going to have sex with this woman or whatever, but it's goodly of you to show, men are never offended by. That's the thing. We're like, oh, I don't. I'm not going to have sex with this woman or whatever, but it's goodly of you to show it to me. Thank you. Like, we know it's nice. Right. Neighborly. Right.

Right. Neighborly. That's what I mean. It's a nice thing to do. Whereas a guy, it's aggressive. Oh, boy. It's way different. Yeah.

So there's a theory of this crime. The state investigator says the theory is that uh that keith kept his head forward because whoever shot him was someone that he trusted and that didn't he didn't expect it from and they said that the gun was hidden under the blanket they used to keep warm so she had a gun under the blanket and shot him while he was sitting there watching a movie yeah that's the chicken shit the theory here yeah absolutely um yeah they did more investigation they said that the nicholas hills fire department had not hired or interviewed anyone since 2007 the uh like i said they investigated the oklahoma city chief to see

if that had any connection to it they found nothing there basically uh the time that chief was in washington dc for a conference so yeah he got a call in dc that the police were headed to his house to protect his family he must have shit his pants for christ's sake and he's like oh no it's just this fucking guy skank wife sending his by oh i got a so i got a call saying that my family's in need of protection and a picture of this lady's pussy so these are my two calls i got while i was at the conference. I don't know. She said she was just throwing it out there, maybe, just in case. Sorry, meant that for the other Chief Keith. Sorry, meant that.

Yeah, my bad. Oh, no problem. I get that all the time. Happens all the time. Always getting Chief Keith's pussy shots. That's what happens. The nudes they send out always. Tits I get once, twice a week.

It's wild. He's a playboy, that one. That would be great if the other chief was like a real asshole and it was like a retaliatory thing from like a husband. Yeah. From some like, or a father. You knocked up my 17-year-old daughter and tried to murder her. Murdered the wrong chief, Keith. Wrong one.

daughter and tried to murder her wrong chief wrong one so uh the trial comes around prosecutors decide not to seek the death penalty here on this one which i don't know i don't know it's foreign inheritance it fits the parameters of a death penalty case i mean in oklahoma yeah this is a dude forget it yeah this is not a shoot your wife through a blanket in oklahoma to collect insurance money because you were sending dick pics out all night? Oh, my God. Oh, they will fucking fry your ass for that. They'll put you in a tree. Yeah.

For sure. Somewhere. They'll put you somewhere. So they recorded a phone call between Mark Holbrook and Rebecca Bryan days after the murder. They got him on board of this investigation. Oh. Yeah. And this is fucking wild so uh she said she told me that the police and osbi had a guy and that he had killed himself

this is what he was telling she was telling holbrook like yeah they caught the guy or they knew who it was but he killed himself so you know case solved done moving on what's fuck can i get your yeah send me some some snaps here he's He said, quote, she told me they had recovered the weapon that was used in the murder. She mentioned that he killed himself in Midwest City and that she had learned this from the OSBI. So he also said that Rebecca talked about the physical evidence from the crime scene. Quote, she said that she had been cleared of charges because there was blood spatter on her left side, which would prove she couldn't have done it because she was right handed.

So, yeah, she was just making up a thing here. She also told him that she was going to be inherited, inheriting seven million dollars from her aunt's estate. Apparently she's got a dying aunt. And Holbrook told the told the people at trial that, you know, jurors, I called the people we're right those are the people the people in that box they're gonna make up a decision together they're all on a team you know there's 12 judgmental assholes over there 12 dicks getting out of work those fucking schmucks getting paid 12 a day to do this shit and by their company should you have 12 or just have six? It's an inside joke.

They gotta be extra furious. It's an inside joke. It's from an old Cheers episode. Woody said he was doing a community theater play and he was tired from rehearsal and they said,

why? And he goes, well, we're doing 12 Angry Men. There's only six of us so we have to be like extra furious. Which is fucking hilarious.

We were talking about that before the show i love what he's the best so um this is uh yeah they said that uh uh holbrook said that becky carried a firearm in her purse they asked him what does she he know what it was and he said small automatic 380 caliber handgun i think a ruger so yeah you know she's he's good he's not bad damn observing him out yeah he knows the brand she waving it around it's in her purse I think a Ruger. So, yeah. He's good. He's not bad. Damn observant. He's picking them out. He knows the brand. Is she waving it around?

It's in her purse. I was looking for gum, and I noticed it. Very impressive. She wanted me to see how big my dick was next to an object. Oh, because the 380 is something that she knows how it fits in her hand, if you know what I mean. She wanted to see from there. So, an EMS worker testifies as well a paramedic james mcclung he tells the jurors that rebecca seemed more excited about first responders touching the

evidence than whether her husband was alive she was like oh cool quote becky never asked us about her husband's condition she didn't ask us if she could ride in the ambulance to the hospital either which are both pretty standard. Is he OK? Can I ride with him? I'm not going anywhere. You're not going anywhere without me. Yeah, that's nope. So during cross-examination, McClung said that the policy prohibits family members from riding in the ambulance with patients.

But he also says that people usually ask anyway. Ask anyway. And he also testified that Rebecca told him that this intruder shot apologized to her after he shot her husband here. He said, quote, I'm sorry, your husband should have fucking hired me. Blah, blah, blah. He also said that Keith was still alive when he got to the crime scene. The paramedic, quote, he was gasping for air, but I could tell that the gunshot wound was fatal. It's one of those they can tell if you're you can tell if it's going to fucking just a matter of time or what.

Yeah. He says that this is a Michael Ward, another EMT who worked on Keith. He says, as soon as we walked in the door, I noticed the patient was sitting on the couch. I recognized a couple of the fire guys there. Jim McClung and I drove to the residence. Police met us at the door.

McClung stayed back and called for Metaflight. Yeah, Metaflight, the helicopter. Ward, he gave first aid. He said, quote, I heard the female say she was sitting on the couch when the patient was shot. And yeah, he said he didn't know her at the time, this paramedic. And they said, how was her demeanor? And he said she was very calm, very collected. her and he said she was very calm very collected he also says he heard becky say that she came out of the room and heard the shooter was standing there and saw the shooter standing there so

that's how that works pamela woodward testifies a friend of hers she testifies that uh on on a day here becky called her uh called her former lover her soulmate and talked about faking a pregnancy so she could get him back so that she she told her friend she's not even embarrassed to tell her friends like i'm gonna fake a pregnancy to get her back i would think that would be a thing first of all that's one of those things that obviously you shouldn't do and it's like one of those like old tropes like a you know guys dads will tell them like watch out they'll fake a pregnancy to get you to marry him and shit like in the 40s somebody would tell them that right but like this is like i never thought a

woman would like or anybody would plan this with their friend like i'm gonna do this and your friend's like i think it's a good idea it's a good play i support you girl i'm not gonna lie that's that's that's a good play you do it you dirty slut you should do it you skanky skanky skanky whore that's what they do you filthy skank slut perfect all right hooker bye the fuck why do they do that i don't know i really don't fucking know it's hilarious it's wild it's like black guys calling each other the n-word i guess they're just okay i don't know they get to do it we don't so same thing it's the same that's what i mean i think it's an insular group you can call whatever i can walk into a bunch of italian guys and be like what's up you fat guinea whop fucking if you did it somebody would punch you in the throat probably what's up you dago fuck yeah yeah i can

do that all i want it's the same thing any insular group you can say shit though it's fine if you're in that group so apparently if you're one of half the population, you could talk about faking a pregnancy with your friend and it's fine. So she said, Woodward said, or Woodard, I'm sorry. She said that it was very difficult. It was very sad to relive everything. It was very surreal talking about her testimony. And it's fucking wild, man. real talking about her testimony and uh it's it's fucking wild man becky says that uh i guess becky said that she talked to her uh talked to this person about talking to her former lover on the

way to the hospital was showing the dick pics and uh becky this her friend testifies that becky said quote have you ever loved somebody so much that you would do that i guess kill your husband so uh she didn't explain what she meant by that but whatever uh during cross-examination here the medical examiner could not uh definitively say the fibers were from the blanket the ones in keith's brain but you know it's a pretty good bet he says that he that brian could have collected the fibers if his head made contact with the blanket as well so there's other possibilities uh brian's mother cried and refused to look while jurors were shown pictures of the wounds of course poor keats mom jurors listened to a recording of an interview between agents and rebecca hours

after the shooting where she said her and her husband were very much in love and all that sort of thing and the marriage had been wonderful They presented that after they presented all the evidence of her trying to fuck everybody she's ever met, basically. They said, the one guy, the prosecutor said, has there ever been a greater mischaracterization of a marriage than that? She was absolutely obsessed with Mark Holbrook. She killed Keith Bryan because she was in love with another man. I would say many.

Men, sir. Just, she wanted other men. She was in love with cock. Yeah, she just, that's sir. Just she wanted other men. She was in love with cock. Yeah. She just like that. Yeah. Great. But it shouldn't lead to murder.

You can't kill for cock. No. Yeah. If she wanted to get a divorce and do all this shit and start over and they both move into one bedroom apartments and do all it. Great. Yeah. As much cock as you want.

But you can't kill your husband for cock. That's the thing. So also this exam, the investigator said, quote, this was the work of a coward. This was someone who had to sneak up behind her husband so he wouldn't see her. This is the work of Keith Bryan's wife. And they talked about her boasting to her friends that she had sex with strangers the night before the shooting while attending a work conference in Tulsa. Plural. Plural. Plural.

Different strangers in the same night. And four days earlier, while attending a wedding in Dallas, she fucked as many people as she could tell when she was bragging to all her friends about it, showing them pictures of multiple dicks. She's a female coxswain. She is a coxswain. Yeah. Good Lord.

Another guy testified that she stopped at his house. That's the one we talked about in McLeod on the way home from Tulsa, where she had been fucking multiple strangers and they had sex hours before that. This was on the way home to when then she shot Keith later on that night. This was all during that day. She was crazed. So the day before the shooting, she went to Tulsa for the work conference. While there, she met a guy named Will White Starber, who's a real estate agent there. He testifies that he talked to Becky Bryan for no more than a few minutes that day.

The next morning, he got several text messages from her inviting him to her hotel room. Pictures were attached to the messages and admitted into evidence, showed her naked. Barely knows the guy guy what do you say he said that he was freaked out and texted brian back saying the photos were inappropriate and that he was at the conference with his fiancee okay so yeah because if he's a single man he's like still got it sure yeah but this is like i'm getting a text who's that that from? Hey, you motherfuckers. Like, I don't even know this chick. I swear to God.

Look, I'm going to text her back. I'm going to say, I don't fucking know you. What is that, a stew? Jesus. Good God. She's making a stew. He said, quote, we were at a meet and greet. We didn't even hang out.

She just met him at a work function. Yeah, this is crazy. And I guess, you know, they all know each other's numbers for real estate things. He said the following day he received all of this shit he said that the photos were of her vagina and breasts he also that's what what else is she gonna send a picture of here is my shoulder she also told jurors that brian was trying to convince him to come back to her room and have sex with her and he says it was in the middle of a business conference and my fiance was next to me so i'm not gonna fucking happen he can skip the business conference part of that explanation yeah my fiance was there sitting next to me so then becky told

him that quote it was a good idea that they didn't meet up because you would have fallen in love with me she says to him oh boy she is she's confident she's something i wish i had that confidence i would fucking say during the cross-examination the defense claimed that he sent her back multiple text messages but they were when he did but they were all this is inappropriate they were all no can you please stop yeah they said there were 16 of them but they were like those ones are like this is inappropriate this is blah blah blah can you stop i don't want this i'm with my fiance they're very you know those are great tips but no thanks no thanks wonderful i appreciate it that's the thing see you around we appreciate everything that we're saying we just can't

yeah it's nice of you what am i supposed to trust me yeah it's like being offered something that you're not you know I'm a vegetarian. It's a lovely steak you've prepared, but I can't. It looks great. It looks very... Is that cage-free? That looks great. It's juicy. You can make a stew out of that.

It's juicy. Jesus, James. Sorry. Couldn't help it. All right. Sometimes they're just for us, Jimmy. We deserve it so uh yeah on the way back there uh wesley hubert knew becky bryan as his realtor we talked about that but uh monday he said their relationship was also sexual also another man testified that she had sex with him at his home the day of the

shooting so she had sex with like four guys the day of the shooting which is crazy uh crazy shit so when asked by prosecutors exactly when he slept with becky he said quote the same day she shot her husband in trial which didn't go over well it was an objection there he then caught himself and said that it was the day becky's husband was My bad. I mean, you know how that is. The day she was accused of shooting her husband? Can I say that? Yeah. That day.

The judge asked the jury to disregard the comment. Sure. Yeah. So a legal analyst here, this is obvious, once you hear something like that, it's hard to put out of your mind. It shows that this witness, who she was having an intimate relationship with that day, didn't have a problem connecting those dots. And, you know, why wouldn't the jury, basically?

So they bring out the evidence and they try to, Becky Bryant's attorney questions the investigators about their handling and their searching for the evidence. They asked why the agents didn't change gloves, suggesting gunshot residue could have been transferred onto evidence by agents who handled them during the search. They also asked why agents didn't check for fingerprints on the dryer where the gun was found and why they didn't photograph the shell casing found in the dryer. He also said that the shell casing should have been photographed and that with the benefit of hindsight, fingerprinting the dryer may have been a good idea. That was the investigator's response to that. The lawyer also brought up a report by a witness that says that he saw a vehicle in the Mustang area, in the Mustang area, a town with 20,000 people in it, similar to the one that Becky reported, a small pickup. Think someone in this town might drive a small pickup?

20,000 people, somebody's got a Tacoma. Yeah, so I mean, someone does landscaping or some shit? I mean, come on. Right. So, yeah, Becky, it's the same one that she said. The only way to exit the Bryan's neighborhood is onto State Highway 152, which is the main east-west road through Mustang. So they say it puts someone in a similar vehicle on Highway 152 which is the main east west road through mustang so they say it puts someone in

a similar vehicle on highway 152 uh on highway 152 minutes after 10 p.m driving erratically that's the witness report so which sounds pretty good they asked why the agents didn't view security camera footage from businesses near the area where the vehicle was seen and they didn't have an answer for that. They said that it's possible that Becky Bryan could have gunshot residue on her hands if she was sitting near where her husband was shot as well. Scientifically, it's possible. They said some could have sprinkled down upon her. Right.

But the amount is going to be way less. Yeah. They get Detective Cammie McNeil in there, and she testifies that after the shooting, Becky had her feet propped up, sitting on the back porch smoking and then laughing when they were uh when they said that they wanted to test her gunshot residue because she saw it on csi she's like oh you're gonna do that just like on csi and was laughing let me put my cigarette out yeah sure fuck man so uh her brother also here on uh the day before the uh he was shot here be shot here, Becky Bryan was upset about a family ring that had been passed down to her brother after the death of her aunt.

This is the $7 million inheritance. So apparently some ring that she wanted, her brother got it instead of her, and she was pissed off about that. So her brother testified that he told Becky shey she could have the ring which was valued at twenty thousand dollars it's quite the fucking ring i guess the lady had seven million when you want that shit yeah uh just hours before the shooting becky called uh her ex and told him that she would be getting the inheritance this was right after she talked to her brother so throughout this whole thing witnesses testified about crazy shit that Becky did the night of the shooting. Reddick, her brother, said that in court that his sister has been making shocking comments since she was a teenager. He's saying she's like us, basically. She's like me with my great grandmother when I made the comment at her funeral. That's what he's saying. She's just she has a dark sense of humor to cope with shit okay but after i have

a dark sense of humor but if my wife had just been shot minutes beforehand in my living room i wouldn't be like cool it's like csi like no i'd be catatonic at that point it'd take me a while to come around um but the brother said it was her way of handling whatever was going on it was a changing of a tone sure not there though no like i said my great grandmother's funeral yeah that's a different story it was already done this is a different thing and this the method didn't turn to you and say she didn't have what i wanted so i'm leaving yeah that's why she's dead sorry that's what i mean yeah take that fucker yeah this is that's a this is weird what's the deal with

her brother that's the thing that's an awfully forgiving some bitch yeah he's like well you know she's that is what it is she's a weird bitch he's yeah her sister also uh testified saying that she called her uh told her about the shooting and her sister says that she was sobbing on the phone to her about it so she was the only one that she was sobbing to, which may be that she would be closer to her sister to let her emotions out. Maybe she got it all out then. Yeah. But they said Becky got emotional after she found out that Keith was going to die. They said that she kissed him on her.

Her sister testified she kissed him on the head and whispered something. She was sad because her husband was dying. something she was sad because her husband was dying and uh during cross-examination they focused on the car ride to the hospital where they talked about the cell phone and her friends she's there there's her sisters up there talking about how she kissed him on the forehead and they're like now before they got to the hospital though um was she talking about how sad she was while she was showing you another guy's cock right was that part of the whole thing she's sobbing through the dick pics yep and talking about uh the men that she had just had sex with that day and all that sort of shit um yeah but like i said a neighbor destroyed described a suspicious pickup truck in the area this guy

it's the randy dunbar guy who said he was the guy who said that someone asked him for work as well he said quote a dark colored vehicle zoomed right by me. It happened between nine and nine thirty p.m. But the shooting took place at ten. So that would even be not really that sounds like a pizza's late. That's what I'm saying. That could be literally fucking anything. Someone's pissed off. Who knows?

So the Brian's pastor also testified that after the shooting, Becky seemed distraught and disheveled. She didn't even show him her tits, which is abnormal behavior for her. He also testified that she was a little frustrated because she had been questioned and wanted to see Keith in the hospital. Well, you're going to get questioned over that here. So, yeah, the defense basically is just trying to say that the agents didn't fingerprint or DNA test many items, including the gun in the dryer door. They said all of these things are not done because of Donald Tunnel vision. There is so much reasonable doubt in this case from the physical evidence. This case is a rush to judgment.

The Bryant home has lots of guns, they said, specifically in the bedroom. They found a Glock 40 caliber pistol box is also found there. They said you won't see pics of that because they didn't take pictures because that wasn't the murder gun, but they should have shown that there was other guns. How many guns were in the dryer, mister? That's the thing with a shell casing and a blanket with bullet holes in a 380 ejects the shell. That means it was shot. It was fired.

And that shell either stayed around the gun because of the towel or they picked it the fuck up. That's one of the two. Yeah. They said you won't see pictures of the because the OSPI didn't take pictures. They didn't think it was necessary. Well, that 40 caliber Glock has not been found since then. They said ultimately Kent Bryan, who is their son, has had some burglaries at his house.

So Keith gives a gun to his son, and ultimately Kent's house was broken into, and the only thing stolen was the Ruger 380 and $100 cash. So they're saying this gun. How much? $100. I had to do it. I need $100 cash, and I'm out of here. So Stevie broke into his house. So they're saying this gun was actually loaned to the son,

and then it was stolen from the son's house and then used by a burglar to kill the guy's father who he stole it from. That's a leap. That's a long way to go. If seven people lived in this town, I'd say maybe it's possible. But 20,000, that's pretty. They stole that from the son, went to his house, shot him in the head, wrapped it in a blanket, and stuffed it in the dryer. Stuffed in the dryer. With a glove with her DNA on it.

Yes, that's how it worked. You're getting it now, Jimmy. Now you're getting the defense. It's a good story. The burglary happened six months prior to the shooting. They said there was strife between the Bryans and the Mustang Police Department because they didn't initially fingerprint Kent's house. So they were pissed off about it. Eventually, police came out and took fingerprints.

But six months later, the day of the murder, the prints are turned into the OSBI. So they're trying to make out like this big conspiracy thing. So one of the Mustang detective goes back to hear the 911 call and get reports of Kent's stolen gun. They do all this. They say at some point, agents decide that they'll search by themselves in the utility room. The agent says he sees a blanket, and as he pulls it out of the dryer,

a gun case, and like we said, everything falls on the floor. Agents did not take one picture of the shell casing on the floor, a very critical piece of evidence. Once they found out the dryer contained what they believed to be critical evidence,

they didn't fingerprint the dryer. This is why I think evidence will show this was a rush to judgment. The state's going to tell you they found Becky Bryant's DNA in a glove in her own house, a work glove that she's the major component. Well, the minor component matched Keith Bryant. It's their house, of course. So they also gathered clothes Becky had on that evening. Her tits were bouncing and they checked her clothing for blood blowback and they did not find any on Becky Bryan.

Also, they did not collect hair from when it was shaved from Keith Bryan at the hospital, which could have been critical evidence. Also, a box of blazer brass box of bullets was found in the bedroom. They say four rounds were left in a gun, one round left in the chamber, and one round stuck in Keith Bryan, obviously. That's six rounds. They say the box had 45 bullets in it. So do they have 51 bullets in there trying to make this big? Oh, for Christ's sake. Yeah, this is the defense, though.

Like, if you're sitting there, you're like, I don't know about this. They've gone through more they said also you will hear that on september 22nd following a breaking news report an ex-clinton and mustang uh officer hears there's a possible small blue or black pickup that was involved in a shooting in mustang a little after 10 p.m that's when he realized that he may that he may have witnessed something very important they said that uh jesus christ man they said uh that this person told two osbi agents he left his sister's house two-thirds of a mile from check hall texted his girlfriend before leaving it was around 1005 and he heads home uh he says that uh he gets close to check call he notices a vehicle coming up quick on him

the vehicle almost strikes a silver sedan. All this caught his eye. He said this small blue or black Ford Ranger is crowding a car trying to get through the intersection. He says, I kind of wanted to look over and see. So he looks over and he's able to see the driver, a white male, medium build with a long sleeve sweatshirt, pulling a hat or hoodie up over his head. So they also said that the bullet used to shoot keith was matched to the gun they do all this shit but their theory is that it could have been fired from an identical gun stolen from the home of the son's of the couple's son months earlier yeah that's uh that's what it is here uh jesus christ man her son is there in the court she waves at him and all that sort of thing why

she was so willing to have her fucking hand tested for gunshot yeah she was wearing a glove yeah that's i mean she's like yeah test me that sounds awesome yeah that's great she doesn't care she knows what she's fucking doing here she's watching csi that's the problem uh all her kids are firefighters too it looks like here so the case goes to jury here, goes to the verdict about 1 p.m. after both sides made their closing arguments and everything like that. It took the jurors about four hours to come back with a verdict, which is pretty short here. And they find her guilty of murder here. And not too big of a shock there.

of murder here and um not too big of a shock there the foreman the jury foreman said that it was actually a difficult delivery a difficult verdict to deliver and they said that uh during five hours of deliberation they discussed what they called the shocking testimony uh it was eight women and four men they reviewed physical evidence and they said that it was pretty obvious to them that what happened here they get to see her naked picture? Oh, of course. Yeah, they have to see all that. And the dick pics. What about that poor guy?

All those cocks. Like, God damn it. I didn't want this to be part of a murder trial. I said it to you. They're judging. They're like, well, his dick and this guy's dick. They also said one piece of evidence keeps pointing to betrayal. This is the jury here.

She says the defense made some strong arguments, specifically pointing out the holes in the state's investigation. But those questions are not enough. And they feel confident about the jury, the decision here. Now, for sentencing, there is a jury, an impact statement here. Basically, in it, one of the sons, Trent, he wrote that about obviously losing his father and also writes about his embarrassments over the revelation of all of his mother's doings. Right. Basically, he says, quote, I have a hard time facing it most days. I'm hopeful with with time. My dad will only be remembered for the man he was and not for the details behind his death. He said, I've struggled with knowing what the right thing to do is, and I've been pulled in many directions.

I've wanted to protect my mom from the hurt and suffering, but at the same time, I wanted justice for my dad and knew he deserved that. Said my five-year-old son, Jackson, frequently asked questions, and I don't know how to respond or what to say to him. Why is Nana texting me this? Is this what tits are supposed to look like? Dad, why did Nana send this? Is she making a stew? Oh, no, Nana's eating at Arby's tonight. That's what she sent me.

It's a picture. No. I don't want him to forget his pappy, but at the same time, I want to avoid the question of where his grandma is and why she's there. Fair enough here. The judge said, quote,

the tragedy won't end for the family i wish i could fix that but i can't what he can do though is say you ma'am yeah may fuck off life without parole wow for her oh yeah got her good there uh life without parole for her worse obviously you could get besides death penalty and uh yeah she still claims that she's innocent of the shooting come on she's totally innocent get out of really disappointed she said that uh it was an intruder that fired the shots and that's still her position she's an innocent woman this is ridiculous god damn it so uh yeah attorneys for her they filed an appeal they said that uh the trial court erred in allowing the state to introduce evidence of other crimes and bad acts.

The state should not have admitted two nude photographs of her and that her trial counsel was ineffective and that the accumulation of error deprived her of a fair trial. That's what they're going for. The appeals court said she's fine. Fuck off. What she did was bad she can eat shit no nice tits yeah no that's it's not not bad i gotta tell you so she is in prison now and uh looking at this here her well her maiden name is renek i forgot about that so yeah she's in prison murder in the first degree current facility the mabel bassett correctional center in mcleod here and uh the weird thing is and this is fucking wild here um after she's in jail for less than a year the jesus christ there's a study done she's been in

this prison for a year yeah the study is when it's done of the year she's in it that year they do a review that prison has the number one rape rate in the entire united states number one prisoner on prisoner rape in the united states is this fucking prison she can't get enough you cannot tell me that has nothing to do with this woman i'm sorry she is going around fucking making everybody stew she's fucking everybody uh yeah just still up to her old tricks up to her old tricks and everything there yeah the bureau said holy shit that it's fucking crazy the purpose of the i can't even fucking oh my god so they want to stop this from happening obviously any kind of rape is bad but i feel like she's uh yeah they said we found that

the mabel bassett facility uniquely stood out as a high rate facility there's no question that what we're observing here is a significant amount of physical force pressure and coercion wow and lots of pictures here uh they said female inmates typically report more incidents of inmate on inmate sexual violence than males but they said it's probably usually the males there's more occurrences but the females report it more because males will stab each other for being snitches a little more also there's a thing called uh i don't want to look like yeah there's that there's that too there's yeah tell people exactly that hurts um so yeah they it happens a lot at this jail here and um yeah i blame her to be honest with you i think she did everything i'm on board yeah they said they were going to put up cameras and do all sorts of shit to try to curb it curb

the girl on girl fucking or at least least give the guard something to tug to. At least, yeah, at least be like, well, this is kind of hot. So, no, it's not hot. No, it's not. It's terrible. Terrible. But yeah, we don't know what the hell they're into. So anyway, that is that.

She is in this prison now and she's still there and will continue to be there forever until she dies. And yeah, that's a wild one there. Unreal. Just a small town, little fire chief and family. Perfect. Imagine what their family photo looked like when their kids were young. Just idyllic. Right.

And it turns into this. It turns into a much different photo. One with her tits in it. It's just mom's tits. It's just her tits. So that's what's happening there. That, everybody, is Mustang, Oklahoma. Unbelievable.

Quite the goddamn tale. And by the way, next week we have a doozy for you. Holy shit, it's wild. But yeah, this one wanted to give you this first. Like I said, this was a live show. Should we call this Mustang Sally and Chief Keith? Mustang Sally. Yeah.

Chief Keith and Mustang Sally. So Jesus Christ, man. Wow, man. It's a crazy story i can't believe that's real that's what i mean that doesn't sound real that sounds like a terrible movie that sounds like a bad lifetime movie you know like the perils of wanting too much cock i guess i don't know what the hell the hell they would frame it it's sure dangerous everything in there is just things you don't want to do yeah from everything that the neighbor did if that person really even existed you know what i mean but the neighbor said he did yeah tell him no god yeah he's like i don't know stranger in your neighborhood asking to do shit on your

property tell him to go away that's the other thing the only person who said that this name that who came up who saw a pickup truck and a guy by that description besides rebecca was the neighbor across the street. Do you think that she did something to convince him to tell some, tell people that like, this is what the guy looked like and blah, blah, blah. And maybe talk to him. I don't know. I don't want to put blame on a guy, but I don't know.

But that's a possibility. Who the fuck knows? We know how she, uh, no one else trades currency. It's like, yeah, we know he's got a few picks. You never know, man. A couple extra carrots laying around who the hell knows but uh yeah if you like that story let us know about it let the world know about it get on apple podcast that purple icon and give us five stars doesn't

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I don't care about. You can talk about in police have the thin blue line. Well, comics have a similar thing here. They don't talk shit about each other. Whatever happens in the green room stays there. It's the thin green line. That's what you can call it. It's true.

You can see somebody fucking doing coke off an underage girl's ass and you're not supposed to say anything about that you're not supposed to say shit because that's sacred and what happens in there but you're a comic you want to stay a comic bullshit fuck you guys if that's how people are they can go fuck themselves i'm not going to play that game anymore and that's kind of how it is uh with i don't even remember where the fuck i was going here i was so angry with the shit but god damn it hypocritical people cramming people into rooms that's what i mean these guys now if you're seeing comedy comedians right now that are touring at the moment they're one of two things because we all have kind of

there's like a few agents that handle all the comics so we all like know each other and we all know what everybody's business is they either really need the money yeah bad like they can't pay their fucking bills and they need the money or they are the people who don't sell any tickets right that's who's going out there they don't sell tickets because that way they can have a third of the room full but if you've already sold a whole room right so when people ask us well i saw this person's doing a show that's because they don't sell the place out but if we sell a thousand tickets for a thousand seat theater, where are you supposed to break that up in a social?

We can do three shows and tell people, OK, you're on Monday, you're on Tuesday, you're on. So we can't know people's financials. But it's pretty obvious when people that do sell out rooms are going out on the road and putting all these asses in the seats. That's because they are accustomed to a lifestyle of selling shit out. Exactly. And if they are living that lifestyle, they've got got to be there's no fucking explanation other than that no

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Kaylin Goff Joey Murphy John Fwang Mauricio Arcila Cheryl Cornwell Linda Beckett, obviously. Renita Ruckus. Kaylin Goff. Joey Murphy. John Fwang. Mauricio Arcila. Cheryl Cornwell. William Beechinow. Probably not.

Josh Hammermeister. Marty Crowther. Damn it. Kelsey Morita. Doug Vinci. Elaine Martin. Elizabeth Earhood. Aaron Everett, Rachel Helton, Vanessa, I think.

Yep. Angel Angelique. Michelle with no last name. You got this. Jack Michael Ward, Matt Reed, Jamel. Nope. Yep. Shannon.

Damn it. Vanessa Jim. Jim and Dan. I don't know. That's a good name. Jamel Shannon. One of the of the New England. Damn it. Yeah. Is that the West Coast? or is that the west coast you had it right oh okay you've heard of them yeah jp uh craig robinson probably not the guy uh comedian andrew hayward uh hey wood noah ceros uh tom

calandrella what the fuck are with the tough last names dana suchell i think suckle sukel no tara sejas kevin bartlett mackenzie boland kevin b bill tessier or tessier courtney hummel uh diane connery sean's wife obviously no clearly jonathan hayslip tyler green andrew higginbotham higginbottom allison newball jesus god daniel daniel cody kristin morgan orion maiden like iron yeah yeah that's a joke understood jessica hedges jacob hoover uh candy fagan jim gorn goln golev fuck ashley with no last name amy waters kelly leach uh luke keo uh sarah waddaddell, Fernando Gutierrez, Kenan Finn, oh, FTW. I don't know what it is. Sandra Dingler, Cole Hildebrand, yep, Ash Anderson, Joni Price, Rochelle Scoggins, General Apeshit.

That's easy. Quakels or Quackles, Jessica Daniels, McNugs, Rohan Bajas bahas god damn it i think you got that one hang in there rohan you're a great dude yeah happy birthday kairi's daughters uh lily and hayley amanda mcpherson chelsea tibbett uh kendon mockett adam boyajian probably not uh here we go uh Oh, boy. Amina? Solly? It's two S's. I don't know. Sure. Troy Johnson.

Darlene James. Caitlin Parsons. Derek White. Lisa Partica? Partica? Jeff Angel. Partica. Angel?

Angel? Shit. Devin Merriman. I said Derek White. Harvey Jordan. Tawny Lee. Braden with no last name stephen kennedy d mintum brad rice i hope it's not that country singer you motherfucker the lousy bastard

he did a fucking country concert just i yeah i saw it i don't know who the hell he is i'd never heard of him before but he thinks he is i just saw there was a lot of people standing around like assholes clinton with no last name. Kelly Kunecki Martz. Michael Carfunkel. Kiara. Kiara. Clara. Shit.

Scrabenockative. You fucked up the first name? Scravenkonoff. Wow. Scravenkova. Yeah. Lindsey Hardy. Some of that.

Frank of fucking frankincense. Sanchez. Michael Carfunkel. I said that. Joni Price. Andrew Bonham. Bonham. Ricky Gibson. Norma Granger. frank of fucking frankincense sanchez michael carfunkel i said that joni price andrew bonham bonham ricky gibson norma granger kade kettler chase pick and paw jessica yates liz krujewski ryan ebling rika daniel daniel fuck rika i don't know sam baltz c, Caitlin Brunner. Fucking what is that? Bruin Nicole?

This can't be right. Debbie Bosna, John Brace, Katie Barrett, Chantel Perota, Sadie Barrett, Brandi Groven, Tracy Reed. Is this for real? Quesa Diaz? Is that real? Quesa Diaz? Oh, got it.

Understood. Well done. Quesa Dia? Oh, got it. Understood. Well done. Quesadillas. Ted Nutlicker. Somebody fucking told people to fuck with me this week. I swear to Christ. Adner B. Delia? Delia.

Bettis. Betts. Why give me a fucked name? I can't figure out the new the real one deep breath brook would know last there you go barricade uh josh boosley patricia patricia galeno downhill from here jimmy you're cruising courtney kurtz alex gagne blue in uh torah graham drew rainy kayla rippy i'm trying to find the puns because I know that there's a shitload of them. Yeah, you're worried about them.

Yeah, Dixon, my butts. There you go. You happy, you fuckers? Yeah, got it. Jen would know last name. Andrea Fellows, Dana McManers, Lisa Hintze, Emily Crosett, Liz Fisher, Chad Ackerman. Max would know last name. Laura Latner, Leslie Slaney.

Addison would know last name. Christy and Matt Bosco, Andrew Weber, J.J. James, Faye with no last name, Dawson Robb, Mike Brown, obviously the coach of the Steelers likes us, Stephanie Poole, I think is what I wrote, Mason Johnson, Jamie Elizabeth, Tex Tickles, James. That's what they do. Mike Tomlin is the coach of the Steelers.

Oh, yeah. Who's Mike Brown? Mike Brown is an owner. Is he? He's one of the owners. You're right, Tom yeah. Who's Mike Brown? Mike Brown is an owner of... Is he? He's one of the owners. You're right, Tomlin. He's Paul Brown's kid. Possibly the Bengals owner, I believe. I mixed up Antonio

Brown and Mike Tomlin together. That's what I did. That's good. Alright. I'm not... Jesus. Mitzi is... Oh, goddammit. Mitzi G. That's who she is. Texticles. Do you get it? Like testicles. You understand. Rochelle Farmer or Rachel Farmer? That's her that's who she is text tickles do you get it like testicles you understand uh rochelle farmer or rachel farmer that's what that is frank lucci uh vish nupriya uh the giant what that can't it's probably right and i'm gonna say it's just

probably someone's name feminicardic feminine feminine feminine narcotic god damn it amy neidecker and Nicholas Brown. Oh, look here. We got more. Casey Ostrander, Cody Kinison, Al Demitrix Shin. No. Nicola Stenhouse, Matt Britt, Veronica Cullen, Megan Hulkey, Carrie Henson, Heather Lemonade. No, LeWade.

What is it? LeWare? I think. How the fuck did you get Lemonade out of that?Wade. What is it? Lanae. LaWare? I think. How the fuck did you get Lemonade out of that? I don't know what I did. Carrie Henson. Megan Holkey. Don Marias.

Melissa. Oh, yes. Jenna Lienyay. Jelineyay? Ariel. Irelia. You almost called her Ariel. I know.

Bradley. That's probably a dude. The wheels have come off. Fool of the world, which is me. Sparks are flying. Kamuai, dude. Dowd, what happened here? Selena Jean Hayden, Cassidy Paraguay.

Now, Parigoy, Ashley Walls. Shea would know last name. Shea, I think. Kyle Harner. Melissa would know last name. Shay, I think. Kyle Harner. Melissa would know last name. Colin Bogoski. No. Yeah, it is.

Jennifer would know last name. Alden Boddy. Alden Boddy, I think. That sounds like a pun, but it's probably not. That's a nice name. Ellen Preninger. Mark Forward. Amberlee Balanos.

Amanda Berry. Andrew Catron. Jenna and Daniel. Richard Little, Tracy Vaughn. That's not right. That's not real either, is it? Dick Little, is it real? I mean, it might be. Dick Trickle was a real guy. You're right.

Matt with no last name. Vaughn Luke, Ben. I'm trying so hard. Jonathan Mattson, Maggie Cohen, Tracy Vaughn, Ben Camerotaro, Sierra Matado. I don't know. God damn it. Odin with no last name. Cody Drought, Kate Drew, Olivia Larson.

They are fucking with me. There's an Arabic word. How am I supposed to read that? Maybe it's a name. Arabic Tribune? That can't be somebody's name. That's not someone's name. No, probably not.

I don't know what the word is, though. I can't read it. Is it like, oh, it's letters. It's the Arabic letter? Yeah. Well, take a calligraphy course and then get back to us. And then go pronounce that. Figure it out.

Donald LeBeau, Belinda with no last name, Cody Beretta, Olivia Larson, I said that, Matt Cahill, Sarah Firestone, Aaron Wolfenbarger, Rebecca Burstein, Carol Brogan, Joyce Lewis, Case Redis, Matt French, Holly Dameron, Matthew with no last name, Lindsay Trottier, Jose Espinoza, Jen Willis, P with no name or last, Shante Carney, God damn it, Caitlin with no last name, Dustin Van Dyke, Delinda Andrews-Lewinge. Andrew Kirkrick. Michael Halloran, I think. Blaine Fanning. Tony Webb.

Alex Brown. Ben with no last name. Justine Reynolds. Rachel Ridge. Rochelle Ridge. Alice Hills. Vanessa Banyard. Damn it.

Tom Kusiewski. Gia Mona. Carrie Giglio. Scott Stevens. August Kusavowski. Gia Mona. Carrie Giglio. Scott Stevens. Augusta Heiberger. Corey, no. Sari Mullen. Penny, nope.

Sklarski. Shawnee Salt. David Baker. And then the home stretch. Ryan Willis. Lisa R. Aaron. Aaron Smith. Adrian McNulty. Brooke Kale, Tyler Gwilt, Eric Castillo, Amanda Knight, Stephanie Agoa, Kaylin Simpson, Louise Rayfield, Marissa Cole, Paul, is that Paul Adelman, I think? You wrote it.

Ollie's Deco, stop, that's one. Oh, that's easy. Jackie Sukup, that one's easy. Janice Hill, that's one. Jackie Sukup, that one's easy. Janice Hill, that's easy. Matt Nickerson, Robin Anderson, Connor Hessian, Delinda Andrews, Simon Brown, Christopher Palkow, Lisa Graham, Jesse Pitts, Katie Marie, Tom Hoskins, Rebecca Kimble, Amber Bodinay, Tia Silvinsky, Jerry or Gary with no last name, Robert Gwynn. Nice. Oh, nice email email thank you so much uh steven haas craig uh and craig neal and alan hill thomas smith marta uh mccammons oh her husband seth is turning 30 happy birthday actually vo elizabeth leatherland charles hugel

hoigel carl kershner james martyr liz vasquez, Peyton Meadows, Craig Ventura, Denise Simmons, Vanessa Silva, Mariah Hardeman, Hardeman, Andrea Reynolds, Lexi Rowland. Thank you for the coffee. Susanna Platt and Bill McClellan.

You guys, thank you for ruining my life, for making it so much better. Thank you, everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Honestly,

you guys, seriously, this is how you guys are keeping us right going and we thank you immensely for that thank you for everything you do for us it can't be understated i wish i wish this could just be two hours of just saying thank you yeah i do too but really thank you because people they don't know a lot of times how live shows work like some people have like we've had people who are like oh i need to get a refund for you know just i need to pay bills and stuff so they like ask us for the refund

and i'm like we don't get fucking money we don't even have that money we don't have that money no we don't get paid to like a few weeks after we do the show like we don't have your money they count it and then they send it to somebody and then they count it and take their cut and then they disperse it to us yeah later on and we're like oh shit we were there a month ago that's how it works and that's the best system right so but thank you guys for everything you do for us and for you know just recognizing that we're trying very hard to keep you guys going through this that thank you because you guys keep us going is what we want to say so thank you very much what if they wanted to reach you and keep you going jimmy how could they do it you can find me at Wisman Sucks. W-H-I-S-M-A-N Sucks on Instagram and Twitter.

Oh, look at you. Yeah. Thank you, guys. The words that you guys say fix me sometimes. And I talk to somebody professionally every two weeks about what's wrong with me. And in the interim, you guys fix whatever's wrong. Hey, look at that. So thank you.

Where can they find you? Not bad. You can find me at Jimmy P is funny or just copy and paste my name from the show description. Make it easier on yourself. You'll find me. I'm out there. Can't miss me. I'm the tall guy.

I'm over there. You'll see me. So that said, thank you so much for hanging with us, for hearing a weird story and for going in the middle of the country where people don't know. I got a message, by the way. I get this all the time. Quickly. Somebody from England that's like, all I see in America, you see like on TV and you see it's like L.A. or it's like Hollywood and New York.

I didn't know that what you guys talk about existed. They're like to us. It's just what you see in the movies. It's like we think of England is like a quaint little like Jerry Seinfeld said to John Oliver, just like a quaint little antique shop where the bell rings when you open the door. That's England as a country to us. That's how you guys see it, because I see it as an enormous castle and then just people milling about. Yeah, milling about around antique shops with little bells ringing.

That's what I mean. Around the castle. That's what it is. There are antiques at the castle throughout. They don't want them anymore, and that's how the rest of the people make a living. It's a very lavish village. Yeah. That's how the rest of the people make a living, selling the palace's garbage to each other.

That's England's economy, from what I understand. I'm not an economic scholar. And I learned today, also rotten peaches. And rotten peaches for $3 a pop. Right. Which is like $400 now. So anyway, that said, thank you so much for hanging out with us, guys. Thank you for everything you do for us.

And until next week, everybody, it's been our pleasure. Bye. guys thank you for everything you do for us and until next week everybody it's been our pleasure hey prime members you can listen to Small Town Murder early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today. Or you can listen early and ad-free with Wondery Plus and Apple Podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at wondery.com slash survey.