Small Town Murder - #2 - A Kidnapping & Murder in Raynham, Massachusetts - Part 1

Episode Date: January 25, 2017

This week, we check out what was the peaceful, affluent town of Raynham, Massachusetts, until a day in 1978 that changed everything. A monster of a human being becomes the stuff of nightmares with this brutal killing. Along the way, we learn about how ugly cars were in the '70s, how much it costs for a senior citizen to get into a flea market, and Dunkin Donuts' extremely loose hiring practices with the sexually dangerous!!Hosted by James Pietragallo & Jimmie WhismanNew episodes every Thursday!!Please subscribe, rate, and review!Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!Head to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder!For merchandise: crimeinsports.threadless.comCheck out James and Jimmie's other show: Crime in Sports Follow us on social media!Facebook: facebook.com/smalltownpodInstagram: instagram.com/smalltownmurderTwitter: twitter.com/MurderSmall Contact the show: [e-mail] See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hello, everybody. Thank you for joining us here on Small Town Murder. Yay! Yay. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host, as always. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you guys so much for joining us on the second episode of Small Town Murder.

Fuck yes. Hope you enjoyed the trip down to Sarah, Mississippi last week. Ugh. It was so sticky. It was sticky, and the crime was terrible, and it was a little disturbing. Well, today we have another town, another crime, and we're ready for it. You want to get into it? But before we get into it, I do want to thank the listeners for their iTunes reviews this week. Yeah.

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So overwhelming, especially since we do our other podcast, Crime and Sports, and I'm sure that some of those people tuned in as well. But I'm positive there was a lot of new people. They jumped on board and found it and had nice things to say. And that means the world to us, but more to James because James busts his fucking ass on this goddamn thing. We both do plenty, my friend. Let's get into this here. Let's head to the town of Raynham, Massachusetts. This is a

town. It's in the southeastern corner of Massachusetts. Massachusetts kind of has a little hook on the bottom that kind of hooks around. It's in the inside of that. It's a weird shaped state. It's got like a little leg on the bottom. Yeah, they fought over some territory and they said, okay, you can have that and Connecticut

can't and that's that. So the zip code in Raynham is 02767. So weird. It starts with a zero. Yeah, those severe East Coast states starting with zero. The very first ones. Yeah, I grew up in New York. I always had a one zip code.

All right. 125, whatever the heck. So that's that. The history, a little history of Raynham. We'll get into the town of Raynham and what kind of place we're dealing with and then head into the horrible things that happened there. I can't wait. This town, it's an old town. I'm sure.

It settled all the way back in 1639. Holy shit. Yeah, so we're talking, these are originals. Yeah, these are colonial started, people with buckles on their fucking shoes. And their hats. People with buckles everywhere. They didn't give a shit. Buckles just dangling.

Buckled up these people. It was founded by a woman, actually. It is the first town in the United States to be founded by a woman. How about that? It's a woman named Elizabeth Pole. What a progressive fucking city. What a progressive place. I like it.

Mainly iron workers lived there at first because they discovered there was a big iron ore discovery there. So that made the place just iron central. It was like West Virginia with coal, but there was iron there. Twenty-three people formed a local ironworks that kind of the town kind of rallied around. It's pretty funny because the town seal proclaims that it's the first ironworks in America, which isn't even true. They're living on a lie right from the town seal, right on all of their paperwork. It's just a lie, starting with a lie. It was incorporated.

How can you lay stake and claim to a house if the deed is written on a fucking paper that seal is a lie? Lies, all lies, I tell you. You don't own this house. No, no, not at all. Unbelievable. So the town was incorporated in 1731. I mean, that's how old it actually is, like an official town since then. The ironworks that was there operated all the way until 1873.

And they had to figure out some other shit to do for work there once the iron dried up. They're like lobster harvesting. Well, shipbuilding was a big industry. That tells you how long ago this was. Shipbuilding was a big industry. The way you how long ago this was. The shipbuilding was a big industry. The way they did it, too, is crazy. They just dug these trenches in the riverbeds and then just rolled the wood down. It's insane how they did it.

And then they rolled the ship off of logs into the ocean. It was nuts reading about how they did that. A weird assembly line. It's weird, too. The town's economy, since the ironworksworks closed has hinged on some really weird fringe things popping up here and there. There were several shoe manufacturers that popped in. A straw

hat factory. What? A whole factory. How many straw hats are needed? How many do you need? You know farming was big in the United States at that point when they're just like, well, we need to make more straw hats. How can we know? We need like a line. We really got to do this right. You know how Ford does it?

Like that with hats, though. Unbelievable. And then you're growing it only a few months of the year because that shit gets cold. Yeah. Super cold. Your fucking straw won't grow. I don't know, but they had a whole factory there. A town's economy depended on people wearing straw hats at one point.

So that tells you a lot about the foresight and the planning here. Also, too, a bleachery and a tech factory. What does a bleachery do? They bleach your buttholes? I don't know what a bleachery is, but I grew up with one right by my house. And it was in a small town in upstate New York, a little bit about an hour up north of New York City that we'll actually do a story from. It actually happened there. But there was a bleachery there, and it was like back in the woods.

And we'd go there, and it was like we'd go there to skateboard, and it was super – it was really haunted. Everybody thought we'd all run away when we heard a noise. That was the bleachery. So apparently they had a big haunted building that kids skateboarded in back then. Did they build bleachers, or what the fuck do they do? I think they made bleach, honestly, maybe. Ugh.

I guess. Stinky. They needed a lot of bleach back then, I guess. I'm going to Google that shit. What does a bleachery do? The tack factory was there, though. That. I guess. Stinky. They needed a lot of bleach back then, I guess. I'm going to Google that shit. What does a bleachery do? The tack factory was there, though. That was a big one. Just make some tacks, I guess.

Also, it was an agricultural farm in that area. Raised 39 different varieties of apples. Oh. So they have that going for them. How about that? Very apple. I didn't know there was that many apples in the world. Very apple-centric.

So that's good. To give you a location here, it's about 40 minutes from Boston. So it's just outside Boston, 36 miles from Boston. That's nothing. That's practically a suburb. The town population right now is listed at 13,575. Now, out of that number on the statistical site that I found, and I have a few of them, 13,414 are listed as, quote, in households.

So they have about 150 people that are homeless, I guess, which seems like a lot of homeless people for a small town. Yeah, 13,000. I don't know. It's an affluent town. This is a nice – last week we were in kind of a run down, kind of an economically depressed area and things like that. This is nothing like this.

This is a well-to-do place. This is a well-to-do northeastern city. It's completely, completely opposite of last week. Okay. There's only 4% unemployment there right now. Wow. So it's cooking. You know what I mean?

And listen to this. The average household income in this town right now is $104,837. Holy shit. Yeah, that's what I mean. They have half as many people as the national average making under $15,000 and twice as many people making over $100,000 as the national average. So it's very affluent. To give you an idea of how the density goes, how it's spread out or not so in this case,

the population density is 673 per square mile. Wow. 91 is the national average. And if we remember last week, Sarah, Mississippi was 43. So there's a lot of people here. Yeah, it's just, you know, tight neighborhoods, houses on top of things, you know, just East Coast, basically. It is pretty much average and everything else. As far as the people go average in the sexes, 41 percent male or 41% for 51% female, 49% male.

All the age groups are within 1% of the national average. They do have 1.92% age over 85, which Sarah had 0.0. Yeah. Remember last time. So the health care might be better up there. Better. Yeah. They can afford it.

Yeah. That's about the national average. You know, the people that make under 15,000 are probably the children that are going to school or whatever. Probably. And the parents make like $200,000, so it brings their fucking median average age, $104,000. That's crazy. That's a lot. And we'll get into the housing prices, too, here in a moment.

So you've got to make some cash. Yeah, the breakdown of race here, because that's always a component of the town, as we know. Irish? I'm guessing we have 85 white 62 percent's the national average yeah 4.6 4.26 percent black 12.24 is the national average they play for the fucking patriots yeah but pretty much it's those guys and then a couple of red socks maybe oh no the celtics are there too let's be yeah this is the town this is actually rain i'm not the whole state uh four percent asian which is right. 2.5 nationally about right.

You can have as many Asians as you like. I'm not telling you how many Asians to have in your town. That's about right. That's about right. Don't do. You don't want to go above 4%. Let me tell you something. Things get a little messy.

You don't want to overdo it. Good God. So 2.58% Hispanic, which is well below the national average, about 17%. 97.42% listed as non-Hispanic. So that's the type of town we have here. Out of the foreign-born residents of the town, 18% are Portuguese. What? Which is odd because the national average for foreign-born people is 0.4% Portuguese.

So it's very, very high on the Portuguese. It's a skew. Then I figured out why because I read about the jobs right now. Most jobs are management, construction, sales, and production and transportation. And almost 2% of the jobs are fishing, which is well above the average and a good reason for the Portuguese to come back. Because otherwise, I'm like, what are they flocking here for? I'd like to look at a town and go, well, that makes it the portuguese like what what oh you need a fishing boat it's likely it's likely the lobster harvesting

too because up there it's fucking that's big cash i got a friend from boston that said that sometimes they will go out and and go steal from the lobster traps but you have to scuba out and do it because if you dive down and take lobsters out of somebody's trap and come up, a lot of times there will be somebody there watching and they'll fucking murder you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that's their livelihood. That's hardcore, man. And they'll just dunk you right back in the fucking ocean. That's horse thievery in the West.

That's exactly what it is. They're not taking that. Don't take my trigger. No. So it's a lot of stable people there. It seems very stable. More married people than national average by 6%. Less people have never been married by 6%.

Married people with children is higher by about 6%. Single with no children is less by about 6%. So the conclusion of this is it's about 6% more of a family town than average, basically. Less divorced by about 2%, which I can understand why, because

the housing prices, as we'll get into, will explain that. You don't want to lose out that shit? You can't afford. We'd have to give it up. Religion there, 61% identify as religious, which is actually well above the national average by about 10%. But don't let that fool you. It's not the same type of religious that we had in Mississippi. Is it Irish Catholic?

It's Catholic. About 53% are Catholic. So that's a lot much looser. People pay kind of a loose attention to that. They go on Sunday, they dress the kids up, and then they go home and watch the Patriot game, and they don't care what happened at church. So it's a little bit different. Next closest is, it's mainly

all Catholic. The next closest is other Christian. Two and a half percent. Somebody just goes to a Lutheran church, and they just don't give a shit. Everybody else under 1% for religion. So it's that kind of thing politically. 59% Democrat, 39% Republican, which is higher Democratic than the national average.

But that's Massachusetts. That's Massachusetts. Yeah, it is what it is. Now, cost of living here, much higher than the national average. There's an index, basically. The average cost, they make 100. The average cost of the US housing market, that's 100. And then they show higher or lower than 100. The index for Raynham is 137. Way higher than the national average. Utilities were 130 to

100. Groceries, 112 to 100. And then the housing is 179 to 100 so it's expensive. It's almost twice as much as the national average. Yeah the average home value there is $369,977 Average. That is average. Now if you're looking for a house in

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I think it's a foreclosure that way. That's crazy. And if you just want to get a tent and camp out like we showed you in Sarah. In Sarah, Mississippi. A lot at 305 Prospect Hill Road. That is 2.25 acres. It's $199,900. With no house on it.

No house. That is just some grass and trees. And then in December and January, just fucking snow. Deer ticks. That's it. You get that. Lyme disease. Education.

Money spent per student is about the pretty much average nationally there, but their results are much better. Yeah. Everything else is students per teacher is the same as everywhere else, but their high school graduation rate there is 93 percent as opposed to 86 percent national average. And Sarah, Mississippi was, I think, 78 percent. Wow. So it's a much different environment. This is affluent people. Catholic upbringing where they beat you if you don't graduate.

This is a bunch of white affluent Catholic people in the Northeast where education is heavily, you know, heavily. I don't know. But they put emphasis on education. Four year college degree. Thirty three percent. Well, four percent was Sarah last year. I don't know. They put emphasis on education. Four-year college degree, 33%. Well, 4% was Sarah last week. So that tells you that. 29% is the national average.

So that tells you that there. Small place. They have three schools. None of them are a high school. They have a high school, but I guess it's combined with another town. They have Merrill Elementary, which is pre-kindergarten through first grade. They have Lilliburt Elementary, which is grades two through four, and then Rainham Middle School, which is grades five through eight, which seems like a bad idea.

Yeah, that's weird. To put 10-year-olds in with 13-year-olds. That seems like something's going to go wrong there. That's going to go bad. Now, if you wanted something really to do in Rainham, if you're going to visit Rainham, if you're going to buy one of these houses, go ahead and check out the Rainham Flea Market. They're super proud of the random flea market. And if it's like, flea markets are generally used stuff or like antiques and shit.

In a town like that. An old town with a, yeah, you might get an old person. Yeah, you can get a rocking chair from 1776. Probably, yeah. Made by Quakers. It's perfect. Made by a guy with a buckle on his head. It's got a buckle on the bottom.

Made by a man. Why is this covered in by a guy with a buckle on his head. It's got a buckle on the bottom. Made by a man. Why is this covered in buckles? This is so strange for a chair. You can buckle your feet into the chair? This is strange. It's very odd for a dinner plate to be covered in buckles. I don't get that. This flea market claims to be, quote, New England's premier flea market.

That's a bold claim right there, man. Fuck yeah, it is. Some flea markets to compete with, buddy. New England, that's a bold claim right there, man. Fuck yeah, it is. Some flea markets to compete with, buddy. New England, that's a lot of states. It is open Sundays 8 to 5, including Easter, and it's only 75 cents for seniors to get in. So come on down to the random flea market. Still today? Still today.

That's hilarious. Why even charge? Why bother? For 75 cents, why fucking bother? Why bother? That's silly. Now, in September, they have what is called Random Community Pride Day. And that's, quote, an afternoon of free fun for the whole family.

And we will find out more about why that is in September and why that particular day that it's on because it ties into our story. All right. The crime. Real quickly, though. Why have a pride day? It sounds like you're pretty fucking proud to be there. They're proud. They are proud.

But it connects in with this because it's also a child safety awareness day. All right. And we'll find out why they need one of those. $569,000. I'm pretty fucking proud to be here. Yeah, right? I just spent $600,000 on a mediocre house with vinyl siding. I'm not too excited about this.

The house that was $350,000 in Sarah, Mississippi was a mansion. It was like this beautiful, giant brick. It was like four bedrooms and 36 bathrooms. It was crazy. Yeah, it looked like it would stand up to those F4 tornadoes that hit down there, but no. Now, property crime, getting to the crime here, property crime is actually above the state average.

It is 23.27 per 1,000 people, which is 16 per 1,000 is the average in Massachusetts. Oh. But that's still half the national average in burglary and motor vehicle theft, but way higher than regular in regular theft for some reason. Sounds like kids. That's what I'm thinking too. Chances of being a victim of property crime in Raynham is 1 in 43.

It's about 1 in 59 for the rest of the state. So now the violent crime. Oh God. Let's get into the violent crime because that's where we kind of land. The stats here I believe are for 2015 they had zero murders one rape seven robberies and 17 assaults you are about half as likely to be raped assaulted or murdered here than your average town basically that's random had one point the fucking tourist they should put that on the seal rather than the bullshit ironworks thing. They should take that off and be like.

You're half as likely to get raped, robbed, or stabbed here. Half as likely to get raped. Come on in. Now, that would draw, I think. That's much better than we're the first ironworkers because you're fucking not. Buy a house for half a million dollars. You're half as likely to get raped. Half.

I mean, shit will get stolen out of it because you're more likely to get shit stolen. But, you know, other than that, unbelievable. Unbelievable. It had, Raynham had 1.81 violent crimes per thousand residents as compared to 3.91 per thousand in Massachusetts. So it's much safer there than anywhere else in the state. About twice as safe.

Chances of being a victim of a violent crime in Raynham, Massachusetts are one in 552. It's about one in 256 for Massachusetts. So, like I said, about twice as safe. Chances of being a victim of a violent crime in Rainham, Massachusetts are one in 552. It's about one in 256 for Massachusetts. So like I said, about twice as safe. Population here, now I said it was 13,000 and change. Now in the 70s, when we're going to talk about in a little bit here, the population was more like six to 8,000 people. It was even a smaller town, same affluence and same everything, but it was a bit of a smaller town. Gotcha. Now, there's some occult activity, some occult things here that make this area kind of famous. Not this town, but over there. There's something called the Bridgewater Triangle. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You've heard of the Bridgewater Triangle. I've heard stories. But whenever they do a story on the Bridgewater Triangle, they concentrate on the cult murderers and also to like cryptozoology and these weird, a bunch of weird stuff there. And that's what they always concentrate on. They don't concentrate on they love. It's hard for some reason when people cover murder and especially

especially press when they covered murder and especially in the 70s or 80s, if there was any kind of satanic link to it, that was it. They didn't care about anything else. They don't give a fuck about any other story. That's the one they want to talk about. They want to scare these 60% Catholic people. Bring the chicken blood and chicken feet.

I want to talk about that shit. I swear I blame this on the exorcist, too. I blame all of that panic on the exorcist. It has to be because people were like, the devil's real and they're coming. It's like, calm down. And up there, too, because it's such a Catholic-heavy area, those people just fucking—the devil is something that they talk about frequently. And when it's something that focuses around the devil, they want to talk about that shit. See, this is what happens when you watch those movies.

Well, that, and they also made a boutique industry out of scaring the shit out of people with their kids. That's what it was. It was an industry to scare you into not letting your kid outside or out of your sight for five seconds. And that's kind of what happened here. It's a boutique industry. It is a boutique industry. It's exactly what it is.

Now, the Bridgewater Triangle, like I said, a lot of cult, satanic activities, UFO landings have been claimed there, supernatural things, crypto-zoological things, which is, you know, like Bigfoot. Straight bat shit. Straight, crazy. So there's been some murders occurring in the state forest there. Some of them have been attributed to the cult members, and that's been a big deal that they concentrated on.

This one that we're going to concentrate on today was not a cult murder, though some have tried to claim it was at first, but then they figured that it's not. It was just a guy. It's just people being crazy and then going, we've got to blame it on something, and it's got to be the fucking cults. Something has to give. Right. Now let's give it a little background, shall we?

Let's give it a little background. Let's head back to June 22, 1968. All right. I'm on back here. It's 1.30 p.m. on June 22, 1968. That sounds serene, doesn't it, other than Vietnam and all that kind of thing. It sounds pretty serene at that point. There's a 13-year-old girl named Jacqueline Bussieri.

She was out walking her bicycle down the street. She was coming from a friend's house. She's on a quiet street. It's in North Andover, Massachusetts. She's 13? 13 years old. 1.30 in the morning. No, 1.30 p.m.

Oh, okay. Shit. All right. Middle of the afternoon in an affluent, nice, small northeastern town where everybody, you know, they know each other, people. It's very nice, right? She's walking. It's North Andover. It's about an hour from Raynham. So we're in the ballpark here.

A small blue car passes her several times while she's walking her bike down the street. Finally, she looks up at one point. She's looking down at her bike, looks up, and the car is stopped in front of her. Oh, Jesus. And there's a man standing there by the car, driver door open, engine running, and he seems friendly, too. She said he seemed friendly. Jacqueline, the man asked Jacqueline for directions to a nearby house, like one of her neighbor's

houses. She said, he said, do you know where this road is? And around there, she's like, oh, yeah, well, that's my neighbor's house. They're very friendly, and he's in the neighborhood. He knows the person in my neighborhood. He's not a bad guy, obviously. He's asking for directions to Tom's house or whatever. So that sort of thing.

She got her trust a little bit. So he approached her, and she approached him together. They kind of walked together. She turned at one point to point the direction that he wanted to go. She turned to say, oh, yeah, you want to go right here? And as she does that, he covers her mouth and nose with his hand. Yeah, because her hands are away. Her hands are away.

She drops her bike on the street. Fuck. And she was going to struggle, but then looked up and noticed that she had an iron, he had an iron bar in his hand. Oh, no. So he forces her to the car, forces her in the car and onto the passenger floor of the car, kind of under the desk. Not a good place to be.

Not a good, now, number one, this is broad daylight. Yeah. 1.30 in the afternoon. Ballsy shit. Small to ballsy. It's like, are you, it's the most ballsy monstrous act at the same time. And so you're clearly a monster, but holy shit, the sack you have to have. At 1.30.

And in this neighborhood, there's likely a lot of stay at home moms. Yeah. It's 1968. Right. She's looking out the window. Yeah. There's a lot of them. There's likely a lot of stay-at-home moms. Yeah, it's 1968. Right. She's looking out the window. There's a lot of them. There's people. It's 1.30 in the afternoon, so she was out.

There's probably other kids running around. I wouldn't take the air out of a tire in that neighborhood in the middle of the day. She's standing out there in that fucking apron watering the grass at that point. No, exactly. Now she's in the passenger side on the floor. He backs out of the neighborhood and takes off really fast. drives fast for about a half hour, she says, the last of which is through the woods. Oh, God. She's looking up and seeing woods, which is, I mean, I can't imagine the fear anyway of being abducted by anybody and then being stuffed in a car, but then you're being driven out to the woods.

That's terrible. Again, imagine what's going through this poor girl's mind. He stops to get Jacqueline out of the car and walks her down a wooded path. So he's walking her into the woods. Not great. As she's walking, he hits her in the back of the head with a bar, with the iron bar. He then tries to force her head into a stream. I think he's trying to drown her in the stream.

Basically. She's a fighter. This girl, good for her. Jacqueline fight back. She's fighting back against him. And as she's fighting back, she reaches up and grabs a glasses off. She's wearing glasses, takes the glasses and throws them in the woods. Good girl.

Now this goes to show you when your vision's fucked up, exactly how important glasses are to you. When I lose my glasses, I'm like, God, if I could only find my glasses, I could find my fucking glasses. Exactly. This is his Achilles heel. She found like the one little point in the monster where you have to shoot the arrow. He's blind.

He's like fucking Velma in Scooby-Doo where she's like, her glasses fall off and she's fucked. I would say that there's no, you're never busier or more involved than when you're trying to kill someone, especially probably a stranger child in the woods. So you must really need your glasses is what I'm getting at here. He retrieves his glasses. As he does that, she tries to run. Thank, good for her. This girl's got good instincts, man.

He catches up with her, forces her back in the car. So this isn't great. And now there's hell to pay. Now there's hell. Now he's pissed. He forces her back in the car. Jesus. So this isn't great. And now there's hell to pay. Now there's hell. Now he's pissed. He drives her deeper into the woods. That wasn't far enough. Takes Jacqueline out of the car.

Takes a bedspread and tears strips out of the bedspread. Oh, fuck. And uses this to tie her to a tree. Oh, no. Using her hands and her ankles and her torso, ties her to a tree. Oh, no. Using her hands and her ankles and her torso, ties her to a tree. Now she's tied to a tree, bleeding from a head wound, not knowing what's going on. This is the most horrible

scenario you could imagine. With some cheap fucking bedspread tied to her fucking hands and feet. That's what I mean, with some bedspread tied to her feet. This poor girl, I can't imagine the fear that's going through her. And what is this guy going to do now? What's he doing? He's pacing. This is funny because, not funny, but last week we had the same thing.

The guy last week, Jan Michael Bronner, he kills two people and then paces back and forth and tries to decide what else to do and then goes and kills somebody else and then waits and then kills somebody else. He doesn't have a plan. He's just kind of erratic and just figuring it out as he goes. And that's what this feels like. This feels like... So dangerous. He has a scenario that he wants to do, but he can't do it yet.

He doesn't know how to do it yet. He doesn't... And this is the same with so many serial killers. That's how they start. They start out small. They escalate. Right. If you look at it, usually a lot of them fail the first couple times.

They try to. Look at Dennis dennis raider the btk killer yeah he he failed multiple times it happens a lot i think uh ted bundy messed up the first time he sure did he messed up at the end obviously with the tire that's a whole other story but this is this escalation is definitely a thing yeah that occurs and he did fucking Dahmer was fucking up the entire time. The whole time. He was drunk. He was hammered the whole time. But this is different, and I really feel like this is a scenario that played out in this guy's head.

I feel like this is a fantasy of his, and he's been wanting to do this, and now he's doing it, and he doesn't know what to do now. He's like, okay, now I have everything the way I wanted it. Now what do I do? He apparently tried to rape her and couldn't at that point. So, I mean, that's part of it also. I hope he's impotent. I hope he's a terrible person, this guy. I hope he's more than impotent.

I hope he doesn't have anything to be impotent with. I hope a horrible stepmother cut it off for wedding wedding the bed yeah so I assume at this point he got frustrated probably angry and that's what a lot of these serial killers do too is they'll try to sexually assault somebody they can't write because it's just that's their problem and that's why they want to do this in the first place right and then they get angry at the person and then that's the way that's that's that's the way it ends that's their trigger to kill, basically.

And they know it's going to happen, but they do it anyway every time, and it's their pattern. So he takes a piece of the bedspread and ties it around her neck, puts it around her neck, and then strangles her with his hands over the bedspread. I don't know if he was trying to keep from fingerprints or something. I don't know, finger marks or whatever. She loses consciousness, and that's that. And then next thing you know, she wakes up, and he's gone. Oh, thank God. This poor little girl wakes up.

I mean, that's the worst way to wake up. Yeah, she's tied to a tree, bleeding and scared, but the guy's gone. And she doesn't know what to do now, so she unties herself. She gets herself loose, and she takes this girl as a fighter. And for me, and I have to say, because I know you're the same way here, we both have daughters. Yeah. I have a 15-year-old daughter. Oh, God.

And she's so sweet, too. And the story hits home with me huge because of that. And you have a little girl, too, and someday she'll be 15. She's only six, but I swear she's like this already. She's an asshole. I'm telling you, man. But she's a fighter. She's a fighter. I really like this Jacqu this already. She's an asshole. I'm telling you, man. But she's a fighter. She's a fighter.

I really like this Jacqueline girl. I like her gumption. Definitely. She struggles to get free. She goes and finds help somewhere. Good girl. I mean, this girl has been through hell. No doubt.

That's the worst thing you could go through without actually being killed. And at 13 years old. At 13 years old. And, you know, that day, I mean, think about it. She was an innocent girl who was walking a bicycle down a street in a small town in the 60s. No longer. There was about 5,000 people in the town in the late 60s. It's a little nice, quiet New England town.

No one ever would think. You know, there's Portuguese people running around fishing everywhere. You don't think anything of it. And this poor girl is getting kidnapped. She is able to identify her attacker. Good girl. Luckily for everybody. She police arrest James Cater.

Okay. James Cater was born June 18th, 1946 in Lawrence, Massachusetts. So he's only 22 years old at this point. And he's doing this, which is young. Yeah. Serial young for someone to do something like this, an abduction tie up. This is serial killer shit that he's doing. That usually in depth.

This is in depth. You This is in-depth. You know, 22 years old also in 1968. I know a place we could have sent him. Weren't we sending people to Vietnam? I think right in the front of the pack. Not even like a normal mission. Just put him in the front of the pack wherever you're going. Be like, strap him to the front of the tank and we're going.

Doesn't matter. Yeah, Human Shield. We're doing it. Like in South Park. That going. Doesn't matter. Yeah, Human Shield. We're doing it. Like in South Park. That's what in the South Park movie. Operation Human Shield. We got one guy and it's this guy. James Cater.

Let's go, asshole. Why wasn't he drafted? What the fuck? Tie him to the front of the tank with a bedspread and we're fine. With a torn up bedspread. You know what? Don't even give him an M16. Just give him a fucking cheap fucking bedspread and tell him to go to town.

Head over to that flea market. Yeah. Pick him up a bedspread. Pick him up a bedspread and tell him to go to town. Head over to that flea market. Yeah. Pick him up a bedspread. Pick him up a bedspread. And fucking ship him over. Say, tie up the Viet Cong. Best of luck, sir. Go to the jungle.

There's tons of trees and tons of people. Tons of people to tie up. Knock yourself out. Go crazy. The fun part's trying to find them. Yeah. Enjoy. Go nuts.

Have fun, asshole. Unbelievable. So they catch James Cater, like I said. Now, February 6th, 1969, Cater pleads guilty to assault with intent to rape. Wow. Yeah. This is also assault and battery with a dangerous weapon and kidnapping. How about, hello, Massachusetts, where's the part about the minor?

Well, that and attempted murder. Right. I don't know what kind of laws they had with children back then, though. I don't know. I'm not positive, but they might have had specific laws to that. They didn't put a fucking emphasis on, hey, this guy's extra dangerous because she was third fucking teen? Also, too, he pled guilty.

So that might have dropped. We don't know. And the court records from 1969 are spotty. Like, this was difficult to find this information here. Did it have that sweet seal on it? It did not have that seal. No, we're in a different town, thank God, without the lying seal lying find this information here. Did it have that sweet seal on it? It did not have that seal. No, we're in a different town, thank God, without the lying seal lying to us over here. Now, unsure of the exact prison sentence, but it says he's released early in 75 or 76.

Yes. Yes. Talking about five years? Five, six, seven years for kidnapping a 13-year-old girl. Tying her to a tree. And attempting to kill her. Attempting to kill? Attempting to rape?

Rape, kidnap, kill. And then he left her there thinking she was dead. Yeah, that's what I mean. He left her for dead. So to me, that's what you think you did. Seven years. Well, seven years. Yeah, that seems right.

It's a good sentence. It's unbelievable, too, because this is what people are afraid of. Yeah. This guy is what people are afraid of in the world. This guy is the reason that gated communities exist. No, it's true. It's true. And the reason you're paying $300 a month for your HOA.

Fucking jerks. And you can't paint your fucking house. You can't paint your garage door a different color beige than everybody else. It's because of this asshole. Right. And people like him. Because honestly, people, the world's a dangerous place. We all know that.

We're all thinking you could go out and there could be a terrorist explosion or a mass shooting or somebody could carjack you or there's tons of things. You could be robbed, just held up. Absolutely. Tons of things that can happen that we can all wrap our heads around and we can all be like, that's life. And, you know, we all as adults, we deal with this and hopefully we're safe. And you try to move to a decent town like Rainham, Massachusetts, that would be about twice as safe as everywhere else.

Violent crime wise. Right. That's what these people did. Your daughter disappears and then your daughter disappears off the street on your street. I paid six hundred thousand dollars for this fucking house. So my kid could disappear off the street. That's what I mean. I mean, this kid is on the street. Just it could be anybody. It could be any time. And that's that's literally nothing is safe at that point. So that's it's horrible. Now, before prison, he had some other incidents with the surprise. He was said to have. This is insane. He was said to have run a woman off the road in his car and then tried to

abduct her. What the fuck? I feel like that was his first attempt. Yeah, that was because that was like, OK, I'm going to try to run her off the road. And then he realized that's a bad idea. There's cars and shit. And when your car crashes into something, that causes a lot of attention. So probably not the best way to abduct a woman. Yeah. Cars.

They tend to attract attention. I've got an idea. You put your hand over a 13-year-old's mouth and there's no noise. Well, he tried something else before that. Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? No. He also tried.

Oh, my God. Are you kidding me? No, he also tried. There was a 63-year-old woman at a cemetery visiting her husband's grave. Nothing hotter than that. Obviously. Jesus. You can't resist yourself. How do you even get an erection from that?

He attacked her with a chair leg and tried to rape her in the middle of a cemetery. I hope he bought the chair at the flea market. At least put back into the local random economy. Go to that flea market, the premier flea market in all of New England. Yeah, so he's attacking a 63-year-old woman with a chair leg and trying to rape them in a cemetery. What is going on? That's escalation. That's a coward, though, really, because he's running people off the road.

He's attacking the elderly and the fucking meek that can't fight back. That guy's a fucking pussy. That's a lot of times how they start. And that's a lot of times how young offenders start. There's a book by John Douglas called Mindhunter. John Douglas started and pretty much procured and put together the profiling program in the FBI. It was called behavioral science at that time. Yeah, I've heard that. He basically did that. He wrote the book on it. Him and a partner went around to all the prisons, visiting all the serial killers to find out patterns, to find out what this, what makes them tick and what are their choices and why. Yes. And when you see people attack the elderly or children, a lot of the times it is that they're younger and they have younger and they don't have the confidence to attack someone who might be able to fight back.

So that's how a lot of times serial killers get started is with someone who is helpless basically. Meanwhile. Less able to fight back. Meanwhile, he found his match in a 13-year-old girl. Take that shit, you fucking jerk. And a 63-year-old woman. Yeah, exactly. So he's a complete piece of shit.

And that's probably the escalation. Chase the woman off the street, off the road with a car, and that's a bad idea. Okay, there's a woman in a cemetery publicly. Oh, shit, she's still stronger and an adult and whatever. I know a kid riding a bicycle. They can't fight back. So that's what you get with that basically. So sickening.

So he's released in early 1975 or 76, somewhere in that area. And he begins hanging around Bridgewater. Bridgewater is the next town over, Bridgewater Triangle. There's Bridgewater. I think Tarrington is the name of the town. Is it T-A-R-Y-N-T-O-N? No, it's Taunton maybe or something like that. There's another town and then there's Raynham. Okay.

So anyway, he gets out of there and he starts hanging around Bridgewater to get clinical therapy. This is where he's getting clinical therapy. Now, this is a building where they should just block the doors and just set it on fire and burn everyone alive once they get in there. So I'm not for burning people alive, but listen to the title of this building and tell me if we want the doors to ever open and let these people out. At the, quote, Massachusetts Treatment Center for the quote massachusetts treatment center for the sexually dangerous what let's go ahead and get them inside and then just put like a big stick in the door you know like they do like a looking in uh at walking dead when there's zombies in a barn they just put a big broom in front of the door through the slats the flagpole and just jam it through

the two handles they'll run out of food and water eventually i don't know um so he while he's at the massachusetts treatment center for theous, he needs a job. Who's going to hire this guy? What do you think? You know who hires him? He becomes a manager at Dunkin' Donuts in Brockley. So nice job, Dunkin' Donuts. America runs on Dunkin', man.

America runs on cemetery rape, apparently. This guy's attacking people with chair legs. Insane. So that's what he's doing. So guy's attacking people with chair legs. Insane. So that's what he's doing. What the fuck? So he's in the area there. Yeah. And now we cut to September 8th.

Joking his balls in your coffee. Fucking jerk. Oh, can you imagine? I don't want that guy. Oh, the horrible things he's done. Like the jokes of how the donuts get the hole. This man did that. That's the thing.

This man fucked donuts. Probably. Your fucking, your Bismarcks with the cream in them, guess what? Yeah, there you go. That's disgusting. You got it right there. That's all yours, man. That's what we're dealing with here. Horrible. And plus too, you put that on the application?

So, let me see here. What's your name here? James? Okay, James. Oh, I see you're currently going to the Massachusetts Treatment Center for the Sexually Dangerous. All righty. Well, let's go ahead and put a crew under you. Here's the keys and time card operates like this. What the fuck are we doing here?

Keys to the safe. Keys to everything. You're the manager. You're going to paperwork, right? Okay, good. You are hired, sir. You are hired. Now, September 8th, 1978, 4 p.m.

This is in Raynham. Okay. 8th, 1978. 4 p.m. This is in Raynham. Okay. 15-year-old Mary Lou Arruda is riding her orange 10-speed bike near her home in Raynham. She is on the way back from a friend's house

less than two miles away. She's riding her bike home. It's a safe little town. Think twice. Of course you let your kid ride the bike home. Why not? Come on home. Be home for dinner probably. It's 4 o'clock. She's probably coming home for dinner eventually. She probably had to be home. Whatever.

Mom with her half sleeves is slaving over a fucking crock pot. That's it, man. She's got her house coat on back then. Can't wait for the girl to get home. The Arutas, Joanne is the mother. Adrian is her father, and she has two siblings. They moved to Raynham in 1969 to move to a nice, quiet town, basically. They wanted to move to a nice, quiet, safe town.

That's why they picked Rainham. Tired of the hustle and bustle of the city, and they want a small town with a big house that costs a lot of fucking money. Absolutely. Now, while riding, Mary Sue sees her friend, a girl named Helena McCoy. Or Helena McCoy. She was walking. They were going opposite directions, so Mary Lou stopped her bike to talk to her friend

who was walking. They were going opposite directions, so Mary Lou stopped her bike to talk to her friend who was walking. They spoke for a couple minutes. While they were speaking, McCoy, Helena McCoy, sees two cars pass twice. Sees two different cars pass them more times than they should, basically. The two cars are a blue car driven by a young man with long brown hair, a light beard, and a baseball cap. long brown hair, a light beard, and a baseball cap. And then there was also a bright green small car, compact car with a black racing stripe driven by a man with dark curly hair and glasses. And they see these two cars.

Now, the girls are going in opposite directions. They take off. They're gone from each other. A short time later, a woman named Sheila Berry was driving along Dean Street, which was the street that Mary Lou was riding her bike on. It was riding down when a small, bright green car driven by a man with dark curly hair and glasses pulled in front of her. They happen to have a racing stripe? And the same car, yes.

I know of one. Racing stripe. I know of this car. The car got in front of her and sped down Dean Street faster than cars normally drive. She also said there was some sort of bulky object in the passenger seat. But you don't know what people are doing. He could have his laundry in there. What do you know?

So she keeps driving. He just left the flea market. Exactly. He's loaded up with goods. He bought a giant rug. He's got chair legs and buckle hats as far as the eye can see. Big old rug and a bedspread. Lots of shit from the bleachery.

From the bleachery. Gallons of it. At that time, Barbara Lizotte was driving on the cross street, basically, where he pulls out of Dean and gets to a cross street. And this woman is driving on the cross street. She sees a small, bright green car with a racing stripe pull out of Dean Street. Now, she saw the driver, quote, do something in the passenger side of the car before pulling off Dean Street. He was leaned over in the passenger seat doing something. She pulled on to Dean.

Like beating the shit out of a little girl? Possibly pushing her down, something like that. Now she pulls on to Dean where he is. He's about to turn off of Dean Street. As she drives down Dean Street, she sees an orange 10-speed bicycle lying on the side of the road. Oh, God, I'm so uncomfortable. I'm very uncomfortable. My daughter's 15. Like I said, at 4.30 p.m., a local neighborhood boy finds the bicycle on the side of the road and brings it

to her parents at about 5 p.m. Mary Lou's parents. He knows her bike. She's got an orange 10 speed by the only one in town or in the neighborhood. Police are called immediately. Obviously, she wouldn't leave her bike on the side of the road. What's going on? So police are called. Immediately, obviously, she wouldn't leave her bike on the side of the road. What's going on? So police are called. The search is underway. They go to where her bike is.

They find tire tracks in the dirt of a very distinct manner. They're very distinct tire tracks, very odd tread patterns and things like that. They also find a couple of Benson and Hedges cigarette butts in the middle of the road near there. Some rich fuck. Those things are expensive. That's all they found near there. It's an old lady smoke. Let me have a Benson and Hedges $100 million. Hey rich fuck. Those things are expensive. That's all they found near there. It's an old lady smoke. Let me have a Benson and Hedges 100. Hey, darling. Hey, darling.

No, a cotton. A cotton. I'm going to need a cotton. So for the next three days, the search team searches with dogs all around the area looking for Mary Lou. They don't know where she is. It's an intense search. It's a 15-year-old girl. We want to find her. It's all fucking men everywhere.

All points. Everyone on deck. Everyone on here. Let's go. Let's find her. Police interview the witnesses in the days after, Helen McCoy and Barry and Lizette. They give descriptions of the car. They did composite sketches of both cars and both drivers that they saw.

Now, a couple weeks later, they had both Barry and McCoy hypnotized twice to see if there was any other information. This was the 60s and their fucking cops. 70s, 70s, 78s. That's so fascinating. Still, this is a big deal here. Now, they had already come up with the composite sketch. They came up with the sketches and the car descriptions before they were kidnapped

or before they were hypnotized by two weeks. So that's important to note because that's going to come up later on. OK. Now, a couple on September 12th. That's three days later. Albert Santos, who's the driver of the blue car, comes to the police station to clear up whatever's going on when he sees a sketch of himself. Oh, shit. And he goes, that's me.

That's my car description. I got to talk to somebody. I didn't do nothing. I got to. Yeah, I better straighten this out. So he goes in and he sits down with the police and he gives a full account of his day. And he says, I didn't do anything wrong. You can do whatever you want. Search my car, do whatever.

He also said, I did see a bright green car with a black racing stripe while I was driving. Curly hair, glasses, and the guy, right. That's, yeah, you sound familiar. So I did see that, which also, too, there was another sketch sitting right next to it with that description so even if he did do it he might have said hey maybe it's that guy but we're going to give him the benefit of the doubt here i'm on board with that absolutely now they also hypnotized him but this was after he gave descriptions and everything else he is hypnotized okay now at this point september 18th night or september 19th 1978 j Cater comes into the picture.

Uh-oh. Our buddy from before. I'm familiar with that guy. Yes, our asshole from earlier. He comes in with his wife. He's married, this man. He just got married. Some woman fucking married him.

Yep, and I believe it's within the last 10 or so days, last two weeks he's been married. Wow. Very recently. He goes to the random police station, and he looks exactly like his composite sketch. He's got dark curly hair, glasses, the whole deal. He looks exactly like it. It's a perfect sketch. So obviously they ask him for an alibi at this point here, which seems to be a logical

fucking next step. You were seen multiple times by multiple people in the disappearance of a teenage girl. Maybe where were you that day? What do you say? Mind clearing this up for us? Absolutely. So now the abduction happened around 4 p.m. He says at 3.45 p.m. he picked up clothes from the cleaners, then dropped the clothes

off at his home. At 4.15 p.m. he says he stopped at a Friendly's restaurant, which is, I don't know if you know what a Friendly's is out here. That sounds very East Coast. It's very East Coast. Friendly's is like, it's like high quality Denny's basically i would say it's even better if they had their really they make their own ice cream it's a real diner not america's yeah exactly well they make their own ice cream if you go to the grocery store like there's friendlies ice cream in the grocery store they have they make

the strawberry shortcake frozen that's them they're so good yeah there's different brands but theirs is really good okay top notch oh good humor is the one i'm thinking yeah yeah these are really good. Okay. Top notch. Oh, Good Humor is the one I'm thinking of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. These are really good. Friendly. Sell the different Friendly's ice cream. So anyway, enough of that. Enough about Friendly's, but Friendly's is a great place. Now sponsoring small town murder, Friendly's.

Visit your local Friendly's today. Grab some strawberry shortcake ice cream bars. Or grab a sandwich and a coffee, which is what he said he ate there. Okay. He said he frequents this restaurant all the time. He's always in there, which seems like an odd alibi because you would think, oh, well, then they wouldn't know if he was there or not. Absolutely.

No, this sounds like a solid alibi, whatever. Around 545, he says he stopped at a Bradley's store. Bradley's is another. Bradley's is like a department store that's another total. It's very East Coast to hear about a Bradley's. I haven't heard about a Bradley's in about 25 years growing up in New York there. It's the shit you buy before you drop it off at the flea market for sale. Yeah. No, it's like a big, it's the best way to describe it. It's almost like a Walmart type of thing. Woolworths? Like a Woolworths. Yeah. Like a Woolworths used

to be. They have a little bit of everything. My mother would buy like, you know, pantyhose and I'd get a transformer. That would be like what you got there. You know what I mean? It was one of those type of places. Awesome. So he says he stopped at theose and I'd get a transformer. That would be like what you got there. You know what I mean? It was one of those type of places. Awesome. So he says he stopped at the Bradley store to get a gift for his fiance that day because I, he was still, she was still the fiance at that point. And then once he, once they were into the police station, it was his wife. So what?

Yeah. So apparently they got married. He needed to, I don't know. So as wild oats, so as wild oats, he said he then washed his car at the car wash. Took his little green shit box in for a wash. There's a good reason for that. Yeah. Then he said he stopped at the Dunkin' Donuts where he worked at about 6.15 to, I don't know, check in on the donuts.

Maybe glaze a couple himself. I don't know what he's doing down there. I'm going to stop at the Dunkin'. I really feel like I need to say hi to everybody. Yeah, unload some glaze. He is the manager, boy. He is managing this place. Managing like a motherfucker. We'll to everybody. Yeah, unload some glaze. He is the manager boy. He is managing this place. Managing like a motherfucker.

We'll say this. He's a terrible person, awful human being. He's already kidnapped. He's kidnapped a 13-year-old girl. We know that happened. He's attacked two women, a lady in a cemetery while she's a grieving widow visiting her husband. He tries to beat her with a chair leg and rape her. He's a bad, bad person. But he's a hell of a Duncan manager. He tries to beat her with a chair leg and rape her. He's a bad, bad person, but

Jimmy, he's a hell of a Duncan manager. He's committed. He cares. He cares. He wanted to make sure Johnny showed up for his 6 o'clock shift. He's like, is Johnny here for 6 o'clock? I scheduled him for 6. He's been late 3 days this week. I'm not taking this shit anymore. He's very concerned. So, top-notch

manager if you're ever looking for one. I'm going to stop by my Dunkin' after Bradley's. That's how much I give a shit. I got errands to run, but I'm going to stop by my store. Let's stop by the store. Let's see what's going on. So the police are, you know, they're interested in him even more now. They're like, okay, well, he's got alibis.

And the thing is, too, he didn't say, like, I feel like he tried to, I don't know if he tried to just bluff it his way out of this, because this is one of those things, like I said, if it's a friendlies you frequent all the time, you would know that. Yeah. He didn't say like, oh, I went out and ate a sandwich in the woods by myself for an hour or I went to a movie, like a lot of people say. I was bored. I just went to a movie. And that's a suspicious alibi.

Fuck yeah. There's no one there to corroborate that, is there? He was like, I'm going to say the things where there's the most corroboration possible. The most people possible. Almost like he was thinking the police thought, well, he wouldn't lie about that. That's so easy to check. We would never lie. Did he think the cops were just going to be like, he wouldn't lie.

Let's just trust him because that's odd. We could check that. The most popular places in town, you were there on the day of this? Then, fuck, you must have been. Which is fine, because if he was there, it'd be really easy to go there. And they'd be like, oh, yeah, he's here all the time. He was definitely there that day. Blah, blah, blah.

No problem, right? But the Bradley, same thing and everything else. The Duncan getting his car washed, who knows? But said he's trying to pull this shit here and trying to be. I really feel like he said that to get out of the station that day. Meanwhile, listen, it is 2017 now. There are enough cars on the road with racing stripes that you could possibly confuse one for another. Yes.

In the fucking 70s? Different. Much different. Well, now, too, a Honda looks like a Lexus. They all look the same. I've seen a Kia that I was like, what is that, a Maserati? And it's a Kia. And I'm like, what the fuck is going on?

Yeah, I'm like, Jesus, look at that Bentley. They've really done some nice. What the fuck? That's a Kia? Yeah, back then there was nice cars and then there was just a few shit boxes, but they didn't look all alike. They were very distinctive looking cars. Very obvious looking cars.

Absolutely. So yeah, here he is going to the Dunkin' Donuts. But I feel like he said this because it was, like I said, I think he wanted to get out of the police station that day. I think he said, if he thought to himself, he's like, if I give an alibi that doesn't, that's no, that can't be corroborated, they're going to hold on to me. Yeah. If I give an alibi, it's like, oh yeah, no problem. Yeah, sure. I'm just here to clear things up. I was at the friendlies. Everyone saw me. Then I stopped by Dunkin', you know, same thing. Everybody saw me. He's thinking maybe they'll be like, okay, well, this guy doesn't seem too bad.

We'll let him go and then check up on his story and then whatever. I don't know. This is long before law and order. He doesn't know how police work works. Long before law and order. And also, too, also, too, serial killers like to and people of this nature like to help the police. Yeah.

They think they're into it. So I think maybe he thought he could have actually thought it was kind of fun to sit around and talk to the cops, too, because a lot of times they like that. And he's going to call back in a couple of days and give them another piece of information that he remembers that he saw. Just to make it sure. By the way. I saw this really creepy van.

Now, I'm not sure. I believe there's no Hispanics in town. I think I saw some Hispanics in it. I'm just saying. May have been Portuguese. I'm not sure. Hey, we got a lot of saying. May have been Portuguese. I'm not sure. Hey, we got a lot of them. I'm not sure.

I'm not racist. He's in the 70s going, you know what they say about the Portuguese? I'm not saying nothing, but I've heard things. You know, I don't know. I've heard a couple of things. That's all I'm going to say right now. I heard a couple of things about them Portuguese. They take them out on a fishing boat.

They drop them off in the water, lobsters eat them. You never hear from them again. That's all I'm saying. I don't know. I don't know. But I was at the friendlies. Don't worry about me. It's a rumor. Don't worry about me. So at this again. That's all I'm saying. I don't know. I don't know. But I was at the friendlies. Don't worry. It's a rumor.

Don't worry about me. So at this point, the police asked to search Cater's car. Oh, boy. Which is logical. They said, oh, OK, let's search your car. So they go out to the parking lot. What is sitting there in the parking lot? But a bright green Opel, which is a tiny little compact car from the 70s.

Is that a Dodge Opel? I think it's a Chrysler, I think. When you say green, that makes it sound very, very the 70s. Is that a Dodge Opel? I think it's a Chrysler, I think. When you say green, that makes it sound very... 70s. Yeah, and Chrysler. And Chrysler, yeah. Because they loved to put ugly fucking colors on cars with greens and oranges and yellows and purples.

Wasn't that a big part of My Cousin Vinny in the final case there? Probably, yeah. The metallic mint green. Yeah, so popular. Pontiac Tempest, and they thought it was a thing that wasn't available. Yeah. It's those colors with white vinyl interior. It's like, why the fuck do you do that?

Terrible. I feel like this had like a tan vinyl interior. Or burgundy. Yeah. He would wipe a new vinyl on every two weeks, keep it nice. So they go out and they find this bright green compact Opel with a racing stripe down the side. Yeah.

Like, what do you expect here? He grants permission at this point, too, for them to search the car. Police look at the tires first. They find the right front tire tread is extremely unusual and unusual and characteristic and looks semi like what the tire marks look like near the bike. So that's suspicious. Then they open the car. They go into the car. They find wedding gifts that he bought for his fiance.

Yeah. So he's like, well, see, I got that from Bradley's 10 days ago, but still I got that from Bradley's. They find two pairs of dark rimmed glasses in the glove compartment. Yeah. Obviously. Have to do that. He can't see. We know him.

Right. They find two cartons of Benson and Hedges cigarettes. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. That's not the worst part. There's a crack in the case. That's not the worst part. And they also find in the trunk with some luggage, underneath some luggage, they find

two newspapers, the Boston Globe and the Boston Herald American, both from September 10th, the day, two days after the abduction, both open to the stories of Mary Lou Arruda's disappearance. And that's where we're going to have to leave it today, folks, and be back for part two of this. Dun, dun, dun. Because this story is way too long to get into. It's so deep.

It's a deep story. The torment that this family goes through trying to bring this man to justice and the actual – it's insane what happens if you're interested in crime and courts and everything else. I am so fascinated right now. And also, too, Mary Lou is still missing. We have not found Mary Lou at this point also. So all that for part two. I hope you enjoyed that one in the town of Rainham, Massachusetts. I hope you're good and freaked out and I hope you're going to go home and lock your doors.

Keep an eye on your daughters. Deflate your daughter's bike tires and keep them in the house. I think that's the moral of the story is never let your daughter ride a bike. That's it. I think it's what we get out of this. But yeah, that's small town murder for this week. Before we go, we want to say a couple of things. First of all, a reminder again, please, please rate and review on iTunes if you enjoy the show.

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This is what we do. We're not journalists. We try our hardest to do the best research possible. But, you know, we're not journalists. We can't go to random Massachusetts and go talk to the townsfolk. I have to look for journalists who have already done that. We're trying to make a horrible story entertaining. That's what we're trying to do. And we never mean to we never intend to offend the victims. We never intend to make fun of the victims. That's never what it's about. And especially in a case like this where, like I said, it's a 15-year-old girl and I have a 15-year-old daughter.

It touches home. So if that any, that's not what we're all about at all. We just want to make this fun and want to make the information palatable because honestly, hearing a story like this with a guy going, and then he tied her to a tree with a bedspread, to me is worse than if we make a dick joke now and then. So that's how we feel about the whole thing. But thank you for hanging in there with us. We do want to thank a couple people that were really, really kind to us on social media and iTunes.

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I can't wait either. We need closure. We need closure because this is hanging. She's not even found yet, this poor girl. We don't even know where she is. We don't even know where she is. Who knows? She might be fine.

She might be safe. She might be tied to a tree. She's just unconscious right now. Yeah. I think maybe she just moved. It's possible. I want to hope. It's the 70s. Maybe she just joined like a, you know, it's the seventies,

man. It's peace and love. Those like seventies, like she might be a Woodstock. Who knows? Yeah. Later. She's just like, it's going to come back. I know it is. So we don't know. We don't know. They built it. They'll come. They'll come. So with that said, please join us next week, everybody. Thank you so much for being here with us. It's been our pleasure. Thank you. We'll see you next week. Bye! Hey, Prime members! You can listen to Small Town Murder early and ad-free on Amazon Music. Download the Amazon Music app today. Or you can listen early and ad-free with Wondery Plus and Apple Podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey at wondery.com slash survey.

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