Small Town Murder - #281 - STM Express - Adam Sandler Killed My Family - Aledo, Texas

Episode Date: May 13, 2022

This week, in Aledo, Texas, a chilling 911 call from an affluent, gated community causes panic, as the police hope that the caller was just playing a prank, but they find the situation all too real. A large home, with blood on the walls, and bodies in different areas. The killer doesn't want the 2007 Rob Zombie film "Halloween" to be blamed for attack, since he had been repeatedly watching it. But he doesn't mind saying "The Waterboy" may have set off the whole thing! A very strange & tragic tale of events, leading to a detailed 4 page confession, and even more drama!!Along the way, we find out that Texas is proud of their sewers, you should never kill people "to see what it feels like", and that Adam Sandler may cause violent outbursts, in certain situations!!Hosted by James Pietragallo and Jimmie WhismanNew episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [e-mail] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You're listening early and ad-free on Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome back to Small Town Murder Express. Yay! And choo-choo and all that. Yay indeed and all aboard the murder train, everyone. We're pulling away from the station. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Thank you, folks, so much for joining us on a crazy edition of

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Oh, God. You're getting it all. This week we have for Crime and Sports a great story of a scam. A guy who showed up at a NASCAR race. We're not NASCAR guys, but showed up at a NASCAR race out of nowhere, faked credentials, crashed like five times during this race, then disappeared, and no one ever knew who he was. Until?

Until like two weeks ago or something when he came out. This was 40 years ago, and he came out and he goes, let me tell you the story. At his own reunion. It's amazing. Can't wait to hear that. And then for Small Town town murder we are going to talk about how sometimes pop culture yeah is blamed for murder and we're going to talk about

sometimes when video games like that episode a few episodes ago where the kid was grand theft auto they blamed for grand theft auto 3 and music and things like that when they've been blamed for murder a couple of historic ones it's happened a lot so we'll talk about it it was a thing so patreon.com slash crime and sports and that is where you get your shout out as well yes good stuff there that said let's go let's do this but before we get into the crazy murder part we need you need to need to sit back everybody clear the lungs and shout shut up and give me murder that's right let's go on a trip jimmy what do you say let's do this we are going all the way down to texas oh yeah back in texas here we are we are going to north central texas here in aledo texas aledo and it's aledo i looked it up it's

i'm sure there's some yeah alternate pronunciation but that's the way the rest of the world says it. Aledo, even though there's an E. You never know with Texas because they're going to go their own way. So this is in north central Texas. It's about 50 minutes outside of Dallas. So you can commute to Dallas. And that's what's happened here because right now the population is about 5,000. Wow.

It's doubled since 2010. Is that right? So it's, yeah, people going because you can commute to Dallas basically. And Dallas has gotten holy shit expensive. It's expensive. And even here, median income here for a household, it's normally in the country, it's about $54,000. Here, $83,409. They're doing great.

So this is like kind of an affluent area 50 minutes outside the city nice suburb that sort of thing um a little tiny drop of history a post office established in 1880 yeah by littleberry rudolph fox what did he do he had the coolest name ever that's what he did littleberry rudolph fox that's amazing that's not bad littleberry fox i like this guy rudy fox is a good name he doesn't even need littleberry fox is f-a-w-k-s what hawks yeah with an f fox very cool he fox that's like a you can you know say that in front of your grandma no one knows what you're talking about so two years later the name uh it was named parker at first and then they changed it to alito because it was a suggestion by the texas and pacific railroad who happened to be from alito

illinois got it so he said why do you name it alito? Yeah. We like it back there. I know the name of a town. I've been to one. So right from the, this is from the website. If you want to know what Aledo is now. What is it? Okay. It is this. Quote, Aledo is a dynamic city combining its historic past with recent award winning accomplishments in water, sewer, and highway improvements.

I want to go to the sewer awards. When are the sewer awards? That sounds exciting. Who's getting slapped at the sewer awards is what I want to know. I want to know what are the achievements other than the water runs and the shit flows. What upgrades can you do? And the award for least amount of shit flowing back into people's homes goes to Aledo, Texas. I'm going to give you a toilet bowl.

What kind of stupid shit is this? I didn't know there was so much. Congratulations on getting water and shit to move. Tuxedos. When did they win that? I don't know. Recent. Recent award-winning accomplishments.

Was it post-9-11? I mean, in Aledo, that recent could be 1945 in this town. We don't know how, whatever. That's hilarious. This, along with a stellar comprehensive plan, has positioned Aledo for ongoing quality managed residential and commercial development with many exciting opportunities in the future. Our family friendly community joined with an exceptional school district and animal community events makes Aledo a great place to live. They're bragging about having plumbing we

got plumbing come visit us and see for yourself come take a dump in our town watch watch how you just you hit a little lever and it goes away never have to deal with it again the alito promise technology from the early 1900s you won't have to live with your own poop. That's the Alito promise, everybody. As mayor of Alito, I assure you, when you flush the toilet, that poop is gone forever. They take and get your shit together, literally. And then he holds up the award. Landslide. Shiny bowl. Shiny bowl. Very quickly here, a review here review here two stars we have a couple of fast food places one mexican and some service stations with food okay that's why they had to get their plumbing together because they have one mexican food and and gas station food which we know from

your experience that is not good it's not good not good at all create a bad day i would say so um and it also said there's another review that says quote the schools are good but the city infrastructure needs major improvements they were just bragging about how award-winning you just said your infrastructure is terrific so there must be a real problem with with shit and they're like they're like there's no problems with shit here i guess if someone tells you that there has been a problem there used to be used to be and one thing to do alito fest all right hey alito alito i just keep thinking that stupid song what alito it's a terrible fucking song from the early 80s this is Alito. It's just over.

Alito. It's the worst song. Jesus Christ. So anyway, bring your family and friends to enjoy Alito's fun and family-friendly autumn event. There it is. It's in the high school parking lot. It's in a parking lot in fall. The high school parking lot they have uh meet your

local businesses at the many vendor booths okay some stuff uh food trucks and uh who's the rocky lot band you'll be performing so there's that enjoy they named their band after where they're performing the rock yeah this is nobody rake the gravel because we we're the Rocky Lot Band. The Rocky Lot. They had to hold it there. It's the only place they perform. They won't perform in a smooth venue. No.

It's not happening. And there's also pony carousel rides. Okay. Which, do they make the ponies walk in a circle? Or do they tether them to the carousel? I've seen that in the 1800ss is that a thing they still do oh one of those yeah yeah like the the like the training like a sad donkey walking in a circle that's not good so um yeah i've ridden those i don't like that mom put me on those see i knew it i could i could have told you that i'm sure I guarantee she has a picture of that somewhere. There's a picture of Jimmy very happy sitting atop.

A seven-year-old sitting atop a very sad. I'm sure it wasn't a horse. And you're like, yay. You have your arms up all excited. Like I'm dominating nature. Yeah, I did it. And one thing, one of the main sponsors here is Bearcat Plumbing. So there's a poop problem.

They really are proud of this holy issue here something's happening with the poop is all i'm gonna say that said let's talk about a murder okay now we've got this literal shitty town out of the way uh this murder take we're gonna go back in time to 2012 so 10 years quick little yeah quick little jaunt back in history here first off let's talk about a woman, 48-year-old Jamie Evans. She has a family here. She's married, has four children. Two live in the house.

Two are grown. She's 48, and the other kids are teenagers. We'll talk about here. She was a teacher and worked as an assistant principal after that. She moved into the administration side and worked as an assistant principal after that. She moved into the administration side and worked as an assistant principal for 15 years. Jesus. So, yeah, she's put up with some stuff. And she's also

a first grade teacher and then she taught other subjects. Yeah, she's seen a lot with these kids. She's like, I've had enough of you goddamn kids after. How do you have four kids when you got all those? Man, I guess it's just well, might as well i don't know there's more they can come to work they can come to work with me at least yeah who cares

anymore just fucking torture me we're on the exact same schedule it's fine yeah okay yeah that's true we're all we're all together anyway we never have to worry about what are do they need daycare no because they're done when i'm done but the teachers with kids i really i really feel for that you can handle because you if you can come home from having 30 children who aren't even yours in a classroom you've had to deal with and then get home and be like get out of the quiet of your car to walk into a cacophony of four children of sound and not ever murder any of them i hats off to you're amazing you are amazing or not just like run away and not be heard from for six months yeah because your day job you're putting like a specific level of care amongst these children yeah then you go home and you have to up that

oh now you have to actually care now you have to do it you can't just keep them alive and make sure they know simple math now you have have to actually make sure they're loved. Be a part of it. You're responsible for their psychological health and all this shit. There's a lot more to go with it. I can't imagine. Yeah, as a teacher, it's just you're literate and you're alive. Right.

I did it. There you go. A mechanic can go to work, then come home and quit being a mechanic. Yeah, he doesn't have to. Teacher goes to work, comes home, and is a more involved teacher. What the fuck? That's brutal. Yeah, he doesn't have to. Teacher goes to work, comes home, and is a more involved teacher. What the fuck? That's brutal.

So her husband's name is Daryl, and he goes away on business a lot. They seem to be doing pretty well. They have their house they bought for more than a half a million dollars. And this is 15 years ago they bought the house. Yeah, after the crash. Yeah, so it's a nice. It's a beautiful house. beautiful house it's a gated community oh the house is gorgeous i'll post pictures on the social media of it it looks like it's by itself there's no neighbor butted up against it it's a big giant house with a big giant i don't know if it's a guest house or like a four

car garage one big giant thing off to the side it looks like a big compound it's beautiful place really is um nice place uh anyway so they have two children that are out of the house already and they have two children that live at home there is 15 year old mallory yeah and uh 17 year old jake okay so there's the evans family at this point that's how they live um now that also it's two acres they live on that's why it's spread out so two acres big house awesome in a gated community nice stuff now they had they recently switched churches which was a thing they went to a methodist church in aledo for years recently switched to a catholic church oh which is that's a big jump i think that's different i don't know how do you go from

methodist over to i don't know what the do you go from Methodist over to Rosaries and Stations of the Cross? Yeah, I don't know what Methodists do, though. It's loose, but it's angry. It is? Okay, I don't know. It's loose, but angry. So is it like somewhere in between Episcopalian and Baptist? Yes.

Somewhere in there? Yeah. Somewhere in the middle? Yes. Oh, okay. It's's not i don't know it's i don't it's closer to it's closer to baptist than uh by the way we don't know anything about no someone's gonna be like no it's this and you're right we don't know so never mind moving on just based on the people i know who have done it okay and it's different in that in that terms like catholic is

fucking uh you know regimented you know what you're doing if you actually do it if you're involved yeah i don't know if it's intense i don't know if the catholic church is different but like growing up in new york the church is like you have your old people who are they're mad that they switch the services out of latin still like this is fucking ridiculous english i gotta hear now i don't want to understand this for an hour and a half there's those people and the people who are like, I mean, you go on Christmas. Yeah. And Easter.

And Easter. And the rules are, well, yeah, you just go to confession. Don't worry about it. It's like they're not real. We'll get you baptized and we won't see this place again for another six months. You know, you do your confirmation. Somebody buys you one of those little medals. You wear it on a chain until you die and that's how it works.

And hopefully that was enough. That's it. So that's pretty much how they do it. I don't know if this is different. Either way, they went to the schools in the independent school district, Aledo Independent School District. A couple years ago, or I'm sorry, the beginning of this, of January 2010, the beginning of the 2010 year, two years before this, they took Jake out of high school and Mallory out of middle school. And she retired or quit her job because Daryl's business was going very well. Doing great.

So Jamie quit her job and homeschooled the kids. Awesome. So, I mean, she's a teacher, so she actually knows what the fuck she's doing that's a yeah that's you know i'd rely on that yeah she actually knows how to set up a lesson plan and do all that some people you know some people do that well and some people and the lesson plan is probably most accurate it's probably pretty good so yeah either way they're home and uh everything seems to be fine. They said that Mallory, nobody, she just was like a teenage girl who was kind of quiet around adult strangers. So nobody really knew too much about Mallory at the time. But Jake, they said, was a quiet kid, stayed out of trouble.

People in his class called him, one person called him the nicest kid but really quiet and shy but just real nice and you know they're just mild people um they said everybody says they're pretty devout in religion okay uh i mean enough to switch churches enough to not just be like yeah we'll just go every whatever who cares enough to have an opinion enough to be somewhere else enough to yet to actually look into it and go actually i was I was looking at this. I like this better. Yeah, so, you know, whatever. So everything seems to be going well. On October 4th, 2012, now this week, Jake's been hanging out, and he's been watching Rob Zombie's remake of Halloween a whole bunch of times. Oh, yeah.

I remember when that came out. Yeah, from around that time period. Well, it's five years early. It came out in 2007. Yeah. So anyway, he's watching this, and he's into that and came out. Yeah, from around that time period. Well, it's five years early. It came out in 2007. Yeah. So anyway, he's watching this, and he's into that and hanging out. And him and his sister are hanging out one time.

This week, he gets in a fight with his sister. Not a physical fight, but an argument. Teenage shit. She said something. She made a racist comment. Oh, boy. And he got mad at her for it. And so they had like an argument

they had you know like an all-in-the-family archie bunker argument with his 15 year old and 17 year old you know that happened that week so kind of a typical week for them uh this one night though he uh he goes into his sister's up to his sister she's in a room in a bedroom goes up there and asks her if she wants to watch the water boy with him okay the adam sandler movie you want to watch the water boy i mean i don't know it's silly boy past the time not the best movie at all but we won't critique the cinema but it'll be something we can pass some time with it's yeah yeah it's not it's not offensive it's stupid it's you know watch adam sandler fling himself into things kathy bates is funny you know i want to crush an hour and a half of henry winkler with me yeah well that's great sit down have some wink with me come on come on wink it up let's go let's do it's terrific i'm gonna root for

winkler to bang kathy bates that's the love story i want in this movie never mind for who's the ball i don't care about her maybe there's a cameo of roy orbison let's go we're gonna get roy orbison in here all right so um anyway she said uh she wasn't interested in watching the water boy yeah um so he hung out for a minute and then he uh went into another room and after a little while he uh he's bored he asks her again i don't watch the water boy how about now she's like i don't want don't watch the water boy. How about now? She's like, I don't want to watch the goddamn water boy. Right.

I'm not interested. I'm not winking with you tonight. No, no more winking. Yeah. So he said, all right, fine.

So what he did is he went downstairs. He was upset about it. He was like, I'm going to fucking watch a water boy with me. What the fuck? So I've never been mad at someone cause they don't want to watch an Adam Sandler film with me. Imagine that. Imagine how many angry confrontations it would be if every time someone didn't want to watch an Adam Sandler movie, someone else got super angry about it.

There'd be carnage in the streets. I'm not watching fucking Mr. Deeds. Leave me alone. No. No. No matter how many huge stars he puts in these movies, I'm not watching Jack Nicholson carry him in anger management. I'm not doing it.

It's not the same in terms of acting. It's just not. Spanglish? No. I don't want to watch Adam Sandler stare like, huh, I think I'm in love. I don't care. Hit yourself in the head with something stupid.

Where's your guitar, Sandler? We'd have mass carnage if this was going on. So he goes downstairs, because the sister's bedroom's upstairs. He goes downstairs, and he's mad, and he starts pacing. Pacing. Pissed off. Wearing a hole in the carpet. Yeah, back and forth, pacing.

And then he says i'm gonna grab this he grabs his dad's knife he says i'm gonna keep this with me okay i'm pissed off because i'm telling you he's very sensitive about adam sandler apparently i can't believe the water boy is this important to him it's really important i think this kid's lonely is what it sounds like but still it's i think it's a 10 year old movie man calm down at this point it's, I think it's Sandler. It's like a 10-year-old movie, man. Calm down. At this point, it's fucking 15 years old. It's a 15-year-old movie, 13-year-old movie that, you know, they played on TBS constantly, so you could really watch it at any time. Everyone's seen The Waterboy multiple times, whether they wanted to or not.

He's just pacing, screaming H2O. Fuck. Water sucks. Then he ran in and he threw his body at his sister and said, don't talk about my mama like that. Very upset. Mama said, watch the water for me. Oh, my God.

So, no, he gets very angry, though. Literally, he's pacing back and forth for 30 minutes. Jesus. He goes downstairs, wanders around for about 30 minutes it's a third of the movie could have watched a third by now he could have been on the team by now literally he's he's he's on the team so he said he had about 30 minutes later he came back upstairs near her room with the knife in his pocket and he thought about killing her really yeah he thought about killing her he's like hmm

that's interesting i don't know maybe i'll kill her so and so he goes in the room and uh they sit there for about five minutes yeah and then he playfully throws a pillow at mallory like that and uh then they have a pillow fight okay which is a way better much safer way better way to handle by the way we've never had a scene in small town murder where a guy's got a knife in his pocket and he's like i'm pretty sure i'm gonna kill this person they go in and then have a pillow fight we've never had that before is that the most innocent nice thing we've ever had if every if every murderer ever just decided on that as the option things would be much better in this world imagine how long it would take to pillow fight someone to death you'd die from exhaustion of doing it before they would

die from the blows from the pillow raining upon them right that's what hitler should have thrown to all of his soldiers pillows there you go yay that's what the nazis were yeah going in and nazi and jewish pillow not taking them not taking you to the camps here's a pillow Yay. That's what the Nazis were going in and- Nazi and Jewish pillow fight. Not taking you to the camps. Here's a pillow. It's fluffy. Arm yourself. Arm yourself.

Could have saved the whole world. World War II, everybody. Would have been the most fun World War ever. Oh, it would have been great. We're going to meet on the field of battle and fight with pillows. Then afterwards, we're just going to have snacks. We might watch a movie or something. The water boy's coming on.

It's going to be fun. The beaches in Normandy would have been way cooler. Ah, way nicer. They'd still be picking feathers out of the sand. So they have a pillow fight. Yeah. Yeah. So he thought about it.

But still, even as he's having a pillow fight with her, he's like, yeah, he thought about it. He's like, if I do kill her, he goes, I don't want to really feel anything. I don't want to hurt her, but I definitely do want to kill her, though. Exact my rage. But not really, because I don't want her to feel it. I just feel like maybe I should kill something or somebody. And if I do, you know, sister's close to me. Right.

And she's been pretty nice. And this pillow fight's fun, so I don't want to really hurt her. Yeah. So he was like, yeah, I can't stab her with this knife or cut her. That's terrible. Yeah. That's awful. Ridiculous.

I mean, obviously, that's a terrible thought for anybody to have. The suspense is insane right now. So he went in his room and he goes this is much better and he puts the knife down he goes this is terrible and he picks up a 22 revolver he had stolen from his grandpa yeah it's like this is this is much better i think as a murder weapon you know than a knife it's less gross so uh he uh went into uh his sister's room and he called his sister and said hey mom wants you because mom's in another part of the house. Mom's home, too.

What the fuck? Dad's away in Washington, D.C. on business. He said, mom wants you. Come here. When she came out of the room, he shoots her with a 22. Wow. Multiple times. Yikes.

She falls down, but kind of gets back up again. So obviously mom is wondering jamie's wondering hey what's those what are those noises so he went over and shot his mother too oh boy thank the way a few times three four times shot at her with this 22 uh but then at that point he said he went he goes back and he's he goes to see mallory and she's up and walking down the steps yeah and yelling and you know pissed off and what the fuck and yeah call an ambulance yeah and he was wow that's what the hell's going on here so he said he tried to like tell her tried to tell her like oh no it's okay it's uh i'll help you out or whatever and then he pushed her down and shot her in the head.

Jesus. And then he went back because he was like, well, if Mallory got up from being shot, mom might be getting up too. So he went over and shot his mom a couple more times too, just to make sure. Just to make sure. What kind of stranglehold do Adam Sandler movies

have on this boy's life? I mean, thank God he didn't see The Wedding Singer because he would have been, you know, in love with Drew Barrymore. Drew Barrymore could have been like stalked and murdered. I feel like at this point with this guy. So this is obviously this is horrific. Horrific. He's 17 years old.

There's literally his life is over. No reason for this. So, yeah, he doesn't feel good about it. He stands there for a minute. Yeah. Obviously, his mother and his sister, they're both dead. He's murdered them in cold blood for no reason in their own home. His mom didn't even know.

He didn't even ask her to watch the water boy. Don't even give her an opportunity. She's probably setting up tomorrow's lesson plan. He's coming in and popping a cap in her. This is crazy. It's fucking crazy so he calmly places the gun on the kitchen counter sits there for a minute and then calls yeah good and uh we have his 9-1-1 the transcript from that and it is let me tell you it's chilling

it is uh i listen to the audio and it is fucking disturbing what does he say calm really in his voice you would be caught it's calmer than you would be ordering a pizza if you order a pizza you're like um yeah you know you feel like you're on the spot yeah when you back oh god the anxiety is insane yeah that's why now i haven't called the place to order a pizza in fucking years now there's apps i don't want to hear about that shit. They're busy, so they're talking really fast. There's all kinds of noise in the background. I'm like, ah, let me get another thing.

Who orders pizza? You're like, I'm going to get you. Let me get a large bite of anything on that. What do you want? I'm unprepared. Salad? Do you have salad? Yeah, we got salad.

They have, what are which which what are the other sizes yes there's sizes hey take that out it's going it's going over the all right you got we got other people here we got large and small and i said pick the fucking water up so yeah there's uh we were caesar would you call back when you got your order right we got other people pepperoni that's how it feels you're on the spot god i get it you got your order right? We got other people. Pepperoni. That's how it feels. That's how it feels. You're on the spot. God.

I get it. You've got a line. I'm trying so hard. Imagine you just murdered two people and you call 911. Yeah. You'd be very much. He just calls and he's like, hi. He's the calmest thing I've ever heard in my life.

And it's that 17-year-old kid's voice. He doesn't sound like an adult by any stretch of the imagination just sounds like kind of like in between it sounds like a teenager sounds like not a child not in a yeah it sounds like hey hey guys hey 9-1-1 you want to watch the water boy or what no why not i'll fucking kill you i swear to god so laurence taylor's in it. Come over. Come on. So he said, I'll give you the, here we go. They say, what's your emergency? That's the question. And he says, my house.

Okay. Because they said, where's your emergency? And he said, my house. Right. Which tells you. Give us an address, sir. Yeah. And they said, you know, he said, she said, what's the address?

And he gave the address. And she said, what's the address? And he gave the address. And she said, what's the emergency? And he said, I just killed my mom and my sister. And this lady, you hear it in her voice. She goes, what? Like, not what she because it was just like my house, like real calm. Like, I don't know. There's some like thing.

And it was just I just killed my mom and my sister. And she goes, what? And then you hear almost like she's like, there's a pause's a pause like no no there's a pause like is this a prank or is this real and she decides to either way she's gonna play it straight up and if it's a prank it's a prank but if it's real she's gonna actually play it like that because if you're like oh bullshit he might hang up so he said she says what you know how did you how did you do that uh-huh you know because she says what would you say and he says i said i just killed my mom and my sister how'd you do that and he says uh i shot them with a 22 revolver oh boy and they go back and she's like okay stay on the line are you sure um are they are you sure they're dead yeah and he says yeah they're

dead and he goes she's like are you all right and he goes i'm fine i'm fine and she starts asking him here um she said i want you to stay on the phone where's the gun and he says um the gun's on the kitchen counter i'm all right he's just real calm they said uh you know she asked his name and all that and she said are you on any medication and he goes uh no i've been to the allergist um he was at the allergist earlier that day his mom took him to the allergist she thinks he wants he thinks she wants to know if he's got some fucking benadryl in him listen uh i'm i've been going to the allergist. I'm on allergy medication.

So other than like Zyrtec and Advil and Sudafed, I don't take anything else. Some over-the-counter shit. He says for allergies and headaches and stuff. So yeah, later on, it's insane. It's all a lighthearted nightmare on our podcast, Morbid. We're your hosts. I'm Alina Urquhart. And I'm Ash Kelly.

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She says, is there any reason that you're so angry at your mother and sister? And he said, Jesus Christ, uh, quote, I don't know. It's weird. I wasn't even really angry with them. It just kind of happened. I've been kind of, um,

planning on, uh, killing for a while now. Wow. And she says the two of them are just anybody. Yeah. And she's, she's engaging him.

Good for her. Cause at one point he sounds kind of like he's trailing off and she goes it's okay honey stay with me like she's like real like um you know like uh no talk to me it's because at one point he goes he says something mixes something up and he goes i'm sorry and she goes no need to apologize it's okay let's talk let's we'll talk don't go hurt anybody else we got this let's get all the information out here let's really incriminate you. As long as you're not frustrated, things seem to go okay. Seems to be all right. I'm watching the water boy right over here now.

What's the matter? Let's watch it together. Oh, boy, that Henry Winkler's a treasure, isn't he? So the two of them are just anybody, and he says pretty much anybody. And she says, why? That's And she says, here's the why. That's the question. There it is. We all want to know why.

And most of the time, we never get the answer to that question. So it's interesting. He says, quote, I don't know. I don't really like people's attitude, is what he said. I don't like people's attitude. Quote, I think it's kind of very like, you know, emotional. They're verbally rude to each other and stuff like that. I don't know.

It's just my family is kind of really, I guess this is really selfish to say, but I just felt like they were suffocating me in a way. I don't know. I'm pretty, I guess, evil or whatever. I don't know. I'm sorry. And that's when she says, no need to apologize. I don't know. Is it worse to hear that as why or just not know?

I would rather hear, I would rather hear, because the shit demon told me to. It came from the toilet. The plumbing is lies. And then he's i would rather hear that because like okay you're crazy right this is normal they're verbally rude to each other and kind of like suffocating you're in a 5 000 square foot house you're not suffocating there's four people how you breathing now is everything better did that do it because no i'm sure it didn't that's what i mean like That's not stuff that you kill over. No.

They're kind of annoying. You're 17. Guess what? In a year, move the fuck out. Go to college and get the fuck out of there. Or go whatever. Get the hell out of there. Right.

You don't have to be there. No. Whenever kids are this age, I don't... When you're that age, time is slow. Oh, God, yes. Years take so fucking long. And when you're 17 you feel like i'll never be an adult where 14 was crazy oh god because i was like this took 14 years to get here to get to nowhere right to get to this i still got four more oh god this is terrible and even then at 18

i was like now what do i do yeah it's It's a problem. I never got that. Like, with Columbine, that was the worst because I was like, you were about to not ever have to go there again. Two months. Or see any of those people ever again. One month. It was April 20th. One more month, it's over.

That's the thing where I'm like, my God, how fucking, like, how small has your brain gotten to the point where you can't see past, oh, in a month, I'll of these why are you hyper focused on how you feel at the moment jesus christ so yeah he's kind of suffocating me so i don't know he says i don't know i guess i'm just evil i i don't know why i did it yeah that's a good answer good answer so she said were your mom and sister in their beds? This is a nighttime thing. And he says, he says, no. She's like, okay. Then he says, just, she's like typing. Yeah. And he says, I don't know.

This is really going to mess me up in the future. Now you see that? I told my sister that my mom needed her. She was in her room and she came out of her room and i shot her and she rolled down the stairs and i shot her again he says it real just like that and that's what happened like he was saying yeah like he just you know i went over here and then i went to math class and then there was lunch and i came home on the bus real calm he says and then i went down and i shot my mom maybe three or four times but i'll never forget this he says my sister she came

downstairs and she was screaming and i was telling her that i'm sorry but to just hold still that you know i was going to make it go away but she kept freaking out you know because you shot her a few times but she finally fell down and i shot her in the head probably three or four times. Did he have to reload this? He might. It's a revolver. He had to have,

cause he's, yeah, I think he shot them each three times and then he probably reloaded and came back. Sometimes they have 10 rounds in those revolvers like that. That's true. Bullets are so small. You can fit eight or 10.

It's the, even the guns are small. Yeah. Even still, that's Jesus, man. He's really unloading. He's, it's a lot. are small yeah even still that's jesus man he's really unloading he's it's a lot he's letting loose a lot of these and just walking back and forth so they said are you in the kitchen and he said yes they said where's your dad and he said he's out of town washington dc and uh i guess for future reference i don't really want to see any of my family

members like visiting or whatever oh they're gonna be so mad at me i just don't really want to see any of my family members like visiting or whatever oh they're gonna be so mad at me i just don't want any type of visitors yeah that's what he said we'll talk about that later you haven't even yeah you're not even in custody yet you're still in your kitchen uh so then they said you don't want to hurt yourself do you because they have to ask that and uh he says just to let you, I hate the feeling of killing someone. And then he sighs and there's a pause and he says, I'm going to be messed up. Yeah. Yeah, you are already.

She says, you just take a deep breath. We have deputies coming and they're going to help you just to let you know we're going to help you. We're not going to hurt you, she says. So I'm trying to calm him down. And he said, quote, I understand if you all want to. I get it. Yeah, it's really this is really just disturbing um so yeah and she said no we're there we're there to help you jake everybody thinks that everybody thinks we want to do bad things everybody thinks we want to do bad things but right or wrong we want to help people i was talking about the police and we're going to

help you do you understand that jake and he said yes and she said is it a gated community is there a gate and he said uh yes do you want the password we do jake sure jake i mean they have their own key to those gates but let's make it quicker um she said it's going to be all right it really is they'll be there shortly won't be long now uh jake would you mind turning any of the porch lights on? You know, really? Give us some light. Let us see you. And he says, I've turned the front lights on. Then he pauses. And then he says, I was thinking of my sister.

She was 15. Just pauses. And it's like, oh, sorry. I zoned for a second there. And she said, how long ago did the shootings happen? And he said, about 30 minutes ago. And she said, you'll be all right jake and he said i'm really worried about like like nightmares and stuff like that are there any types of medications

and stuff jake we'll worry about that later you got bigger concerns and nightmares at this point yeah he doesn't get the scope of what's going on he thinks you shoot people go to jail and they start treating you no that's how it works man no no that's not in texas they you they tie you like those donkeys and you have to walk around in a circle she says well i think there is i don't know i'm not a doctor but i'm sure your family will get you the support you need and he says i don't mean to sound like a wimp or anything but this is wow i've never like done anything violent in my whole life i don't mean to sound like a wimp or anything but this is wow i've never like done anything violent in my whole life i don't mean to sound like a wimp but i've never murdered any family members before i don't know really you're good i don't sound like a weak 17 year old boy yeah you know like a child she

says you don't sound like a violent person yeah okay uh but um help will be provided for you medical and psychological that will be provided so you don't have to worry about that right now take deep breaths for me now. You're doing fine. In through your nose. Out through your mouth. So you don't hyperventilate. Okay.

So he's breathing. And she said. Good. You sound calmer. It's working. And he said. Quote. Just out of nowhere.

I didn't want them to feel pain. That's why I used a gun. But it's like. Everything went wrong. Yeah. You know. Because your 17 year olds aren't good at anything. That's why.

Very rarely are 17 year olds good at stuff that they've never done before like you know murder so they said uh my officers are almost there would you be willing to walk out on on your own like so they don't have to come into the house and he says um yes i forgot to say before i called i put the gun on the counter it's still loaded yeah so she said okay that's fine i'll stay on the phone until it's time for you to walk out uh are you on your home phone is it cordless and he says yes and she says jake what i want you to do is walk outside but when you're walking outside stay visible don't walk behind any furniture when you open the front door put your hands up in the air just walk very slowly walk outside keep your hands visible all right sweetie yeah it I mean, yeah, she's got him talking him out.

That's good. She said, I'll talk to you later. No, you won't. I'll never talk to you again. This will be the last time I ever hear your voice. Hey, just called to check on you. How you doing? So he says, thank you.

And she said, you're welcome. And then he walked outside. He walked outside with his hands above his head, you know, just calm as can be. Calm as can be. He's waiting right in. Calm as can be. He's waiting outside the house when they get there. And so right away, the 911 tape is, I mean, as incriminating as you find it. Oh, God. Yeah.

There's not much you can do to refute that. He described it all. It's very, very rough. His lawyer, when they're talking about court proceedings here, objected to this being released to the public. Really? Yeah. He said, quote, the problem is the 911 tape. Anybody in America can punch a button on the computer and hear it.

Anybody in America can now punch a computer. How old does it sound to say punch a computer? Nobody punches anything on a computer. That's something you would say like back in the day, like in the 70s. Like, yeah, punch some stuff up. Punch up some numbers on your computer there, nerd. But this now can punch a computer and see the statement. This may or may not get into evidence at the time of the trial, but you could certainly don't want the jurors seeing stuff like that before you ever get a chance to talk to them or impanel them or tell them you don't consider stuff like that until you see it at the time it's introduced so yeah but there is no uh reasonable thought that if you

say anything onto a 911 tape that that will never be played yeah well that's like saying oj going to trial and saying that i didn't want i want a jury that no one knows i drove in the bronco like well we all were watching the fucking playoff game. So you know what? We know about it. You shouldn't have done it then. It's a problem. So they get him in. He makes a full confession.

And I have the whole confession right here. And that's what we're going to do. We'll read the confession and try to figure out what the fuck is going on in this kid's head here. I at least had some time to think about it. Okay. There we go um i had just got home from the allergist and forgive me because it's in his handwriting so it's like you know kind of crappy 17 crappy teenage handwriting i just got home from the allergist and having

what is that lunch having lunch when i started watching Rob Zombie's Halloween. In the movie, a 12-year-old boy murders his stepfather's sister and his sister's boyfriend. It was like the third time this week I watched it. Well, first of all, that's too many times to watch that movie. In a week? Not that good of a movie for that. Yeah. While watching it, I was amazed at how at ease the boy was during the murders and how little remorse uh he had afterward

yeah dog it's called acting it's a movie bro yeah that's not that's not it's not a documentary no like they're not following this isn't raw footage homes what are you talking about it's a movie directed by a guy who sang like this like what are you talking about what do you expect rob's nothing against rob zombie but i'm just saying it's he's the darkest movie director on earth that's what he makes dark creep shit dude's dark that's what i mean you expect that he said i was thinking to myself it would be the same for me uh when i kill someone uh what does this say after i watched the movie i put it back in the case and threw it in the trash can so that people wouldn't think that it influenced me in any way. Until I say it out loud.

So he thought about it and then was like, I don't want Rob Zombie taking any heat for this. That's very thoughtful. Between Adam Sandler and Rob Zombie, I'm really leaving a lot in my wake here. I don't want to. Mom, my sister, Rob Zombie, Adam Sandler. I'm not bringing anybody else down. There's a lot of careers I could ruin with this taking careers down this is bad stuff laurence taylor laurence taylor i mean you know what this could only help his reputation honestly

the man's in the movie being a motivational speaker i mean come on it can only help him so that's what he said that's i've never heard of that he thought that's how much forethought he had with all that forethought he never thought oh this is a dumb idea to kill people that never crossed his mind it just was like killing people sure obviously but i don't want rob zombie to pay for this but he's thought to the point of rob zombie getting blamed for it which is really deep into it that's your way that's like five steps past that's after the murder's done you know you can already see the murder done murder trial publicate we're talking two years later like you're really wow he said after that i went outside to hit golf balls in the yard for

about an hour can you imagine it's got a yard big enough to hit golf balls that's pretty nice room for golf ball driving not bad uh i went inside around 5 30 p.m what a bad day here yeah and just sat in the living room thinking about how i was going to kill my family fuck man you your parent you walk in the room there you say hi to your kid he's sitting there eating fucking cheez-its and you're like how's it going and he's sitting there plotting your murder doing great jesus christ um my plan was to kill my sister and my mom at the house then go over to my grandparents and kill my oldest sister emily and my two grandparents what the fuck man uh wow that is um the whole family everybody dad's in dc

i don't know why he waited till that maybe he thought thought dad was a threat. Yeah. Dad would stop this. Dad. Yeah. He was physically afraid of dad, which is that's interesting that he would wait till his dad's out of town. No thought of it. It's weird. Then I was going to wait until morning and kill my other sister, Audrey, because she

was visiting from college. Wow. This is fucking insane. I was going to have five bodies laying out. Apparently two different houses. After I got up from the couch, it was between 6 and 6.30. So he sat there for an hour thinking about this. My grandma had called my mom to ask if I wanted to go to the cleaners with her.

That sounds exciting. I went, and while we were in town, we got dinner. See, grandma took you out to dinner. That sounds nice. I'd love to go out to dinner with my grandmas. They're both dead. I'd love that. Thanks for running an errand with me.

I will buy dinner for us, and we can... This is... What a fucking thought. He's hitting golf balls. I'm going to murder you in a little bit. He's hitting golf balls having dinner with Grandma. This is a nice day. So we made a quick stop at the post office

then she dropped me off at my house i took my dinner to the pool to the pool house what he has a pool house and enough room to hit golf balls this kid lives this spoiled mother he lives on johnny depp's island without the ocean except it's texas But he has all the amenities of Johnny Depp's island. This sounds fantastic. What a life. What, do you got a fucking quad you got out there to go rip around on, too? This is, wow, man. If you have this and you kill, we should have killed everybody.

Everybody. Everybody we ever met in our whole families. The wake of bodies should be deep. How many generations can i go back that have caused this waste deep bodies i am angry here uh wow to dinner at the pool house and watched family guy for a little bit what a day kill after family guy how do you kill after that i don't know that's just silly how would you And 2012, this was a great time for Family Guy. This is hilarious. Wow, I don't even know what to say about this.

I can't imagine. I went back into the house and saw that my mom and sister were watching the debate. It's 2012, presidential debate. I went outside again to swing freely with my golf club. Whatever that means. Swing, I guess, guess just take cuts not actually hit anything maybe practice swings swing free around uh 9 p.m i went upstairs in my house to watch family guy it's still on more more family guy uh about 10 minutes later my sister came upstairs

and asked if i wanted to watch a movie i said no because earlier in the day at the allergist appointment she made racist comments about a black worker that was mowing the grass. She said, ha. Oh, my God. I don't say it. There's no racial slur, but I got it's in the fucking document. She said, ha, that black guy looks like a monkey. In the past, Mallory had always said racist comments like that and would make fun of homeless people.

Yeah, she's a. Well, you're also two years older, so you can. She's also 15. I was going to say, when you're two years older, you can try to talk and be like, yo, what you're doing is not cool. Like, what the fuck? You can mold and help. You can mold. is not cool like what the fuck like you can you can mold and help you can you can mold if you're if you're younger siblings being a dick you can at least try to help it or argue i don't know do

it that way kids argue about shit like that all the time yeah ever watch like all in the family it's like all they do is argue about politics let's do it you don't kill each other and and in defense of somebody who just said something stupid uh yeah it's a terrible she's a obviously a fucking moron i've looked at white people before and said that guy looks like a monkey that's you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah not necessarily yes it's right because that's a horrible thing to say about a black person yeah perhaps it was innocent and she just saw somebody that had a primate feature i think she's a 15 year old that made a fucking shitty racist comment that hopefully in

five years she'd be pretty embarrassed about. But you know what I mean? That's what it seems like. Like, oh, you're an idiot. An idiot kid and your parents aren't raising you exactly well here. Also, as a 17 year old brother, maybe turn to her with your mouth open and be like, you can't say that, you

idiot. Well, he said, quote, I scolded her for what she said and told her that she was becoming white trash not bad that's a good fair that's what should that's it that should be the end of the argument yeah blah blah blah well you're turning into white trash and then the argument continues and goes on that's what it should be but we continued arguing in the doctor's office and when we got back into the car i told her to look up the word lynching and to see if she had the same opinion about black people she then said that it would never be a part she would never be a part of a lynching but is still racist she said i'm not like lynching racist but i just don't like black people was her was her response

weird um i then said that she makes me sick and called her a racist bitch that is something after i told her i didn't want to watch a movie she went to mom and i went down she went to her room and i went downstairs to my parents closet and and got my dad's blue foldable knife. I went back upstairs and kept pacing back and forth, imagining killing Mallory. Jesus Christ. For the violation of being what he deems as race. Dipshit is what she is. She's just being a dipshit.

She's. Yeah, she's 15. Yeah. Thoughts of causing her pain kept entering my mind and were really bothering me but then i'd think about the times she hurt my feelings or really pissed me off so finally around 9 30 i knocked on her door and asked her if she wanted to watch water boy she said yes and sat on the couch beside the sofa i was on see before it said no and in the in the court documents.

But I told her that I was going to the art room to get a pen. A pen, maybe? It's P-I-N, but I don't know. When I was in the art room, I stood there again imagining killing Mallory. After 30 minutes, I finally went into the room and sat on the sofa with the knife in my pocket. She had no idea. I sat for about five minutes, then playfully into the room and sat on the sofa with the knife in my pocket. She had no idea. I sat for about five minutes, then playfully threw a pillow at Mallory. We started having a pillow fight in the room.

After a while, I thought to myself that if I were going to kill my mom and Mallory, I wouldn't want them to feel anything. So I decided to kill them both with the.22 revolver I stole from my grandpa. I told Mallory I needed to go downstairs for a little bit. After I that my mom was in the study i went they have a study i went to my my closet misspelled by the way with an i closet and picked up his grammars and his grammar and spelling is terrible maybe mom's not doing so great maybe that or also he's a lazy dipshit he's also uh i don't know if maybe your grammar goes away when you're in a police interrogation room and picked up the pistol i set it on the bed and was nervously opening the cylinder over and over again jesus christ i then spent probably over an hour walking nervously around the house thinking how life will never

be the same and how i would never see them again we'll just don't do it then contemplating consequences yeah so you know what you're doing yeah around 11 15 i went upstairs with the pistol and stood there for about five minutes i knocked on the door and told mallory that mom needed her she came out of the corner she came out and out of the corner of her eye saw me pointing the gun at her she thought i was joking and told me that i was freaking her out i shot her in the back and then in the head oh boy jesus i ran down to the study and shot my mom three times fuck um in shock i ran to my room and was screaming at the top of my lungs that if i that i really that am lungs that I am really messed up and that I killed my mom and sister. I emptied the shells on my bed.

I heard noises and realized that Mallory was still alive. While I loaded the gun back up, I was shouting that I was sorry, and then I ran as fast as I could to kill her. I then made sure my mom was dead and shot her again in the head. Fuck. After the shooting, I walked outside for a few minutes, then came back inside. Very shocked and scared, I placed the gun in the kitchen, on the kitchen counter and walked into the living room to dial 911. Okay. When I look at people, especially teenagers,

I see them as being very cruel to one another emotionally. It seems that their favorite hobby is picking on someone else. The people who are bullies and racists and full of themselves are the real evil ones. And it amazes me

because those three qualities are extremely common today i was very sad because i felt like my own family were becoming the people i hate i know now though that i'm done with killing well that's good thank god it's the most dreadful and terrifying thing i will ever experience and what happened last night will haunt me forever you're not supposed to experience it it dude what the fuck christ bro how many people come from families that you don't agree with their leanings on any like right that's so common how do you you know what makes us people that we're so different well you might be try to talk them into your side on either wherever you are try to talk them into i don't know but or don trying to talk them in. I don't know.

But or don't or don't talk to them anymore. There's a lot of options here. Besides, let me shoot them in the head instead of watching the water boy. Wow. I rarely say this, but watching an Adam Sandler film, a much better option than killing your entire fucking family. So Jesus Christ at the court hearing, he has a bond hearing, and his dad testifies that Jake has no money or no income, and Daryl does not plan on posting any bond or doing anything to help his son here monetize. No, I'm not.

No, I'm not. Yeah, you killed everybody. You took everybody. So the question is competence. His lawyer is saying he doesn't think he's competent so he is ordered they actually delay the whole thing because he's ordered to a state mental hospital he's there for months really uh because he was ruled incompetent to stand trial at first because they had to figure out what the fuck is wrong with this kid for a second yeah why'd this happen

so a competency evaluation said that uh eventually he was restored to full competency. Okay. And he was scheduled to go to court. Now, the problem is he's 17 when this happens. Yeah. There's a real gray area with 17-year-olds because you can't charge them with capital murder. Yeah.

But they're 17, so they don't know how to proceed with it because they want to charge. It's Texas. They really want to charge him with capital murder, but they can't charge him with capital murder because he's 17 so they're like shit they so their best option for them to for him to get the longest amount of time is going to be a plea deal yeah because then they can have some control over it so he ends up pleading to i mean his confession is i read it to you it's there's no getting out of that it's cut and dry. It's cut and dry.

If you're sane, you're going away. That's it. So he pleads guilty to two counts of murder. Okay. And as part of it, the state waives the capital murder charge. That's the deal. Sure. So they can't ever bring it up again.

Not that they could anyway, but even if the laws change, now they can't go back and charge him with that. So why give him a plea they said that because it was in limbo the supreme court had already banned death sentences for defendants 17 and younger and later ruled that life without parole for defendants 18 and under is also unconstitutional so they had no real they couldn't hit him with that big gun of life without or or uh death penalty so in texas the uh the only texas options for that's all you could do with like teens accused of capital murder what the fuck so uh the state legislature was trying to figure out what to do with that and uh one of

the guys said we weren't sure whether the fix is going to hold up and stand constitutional scrutiny so they just scrapped it and they didn't know what to do with this kid so He said, we weren't sure whether the fix is going to hold up and stand constitutional scrutiny. So they just scrapped it and they didn't know what to do with this kid. So this was the best solution. Even his family said this seemed like the best solution. They said that his mental issues reportedly, he had a lot of them, but they said that his lawyer said that they were significant enough that he couldn't stand trial. But not significant enough to be called. I don't believe so.

No. He recounted it. It seems like, yeah, it's just kind of an asshole and a spoiled asshole. Yeah. Right. That's the other part. He's got a pool house.

Yeah. I mean, remember the Chris rock joke about Columbine where he goes, I saw that picture. They had, there were six of them. This three on three with a half court. Fuck you.

Like you had friend. And that's what I'm like. You had a pool house. You're hitting golf balls. There were six of them. This three-on-three with a half court. Fuck you. Like, you had friends. And that's what I'm saying. Like, you had a pool house. You're hitting golf balls. You can't do it. I'm sure your family would have sent you to college. You had all these options, and you fucked it up. I have not a lot of sympathy.

And I realize that people change from, like, I'm not the same dude that I was when I was 17. But, I mean, a lot of the views i still have i have now are shaped from then you know what i mean yeah i don't know that this kid can be rehabilitated and given back to the public this is horrifying i mean i don't know he's a he just you have to know we it's almost like before that you need to know like what's the mechanism yeah what went wrong yeah if a plane is fucked up you have to find you can't just go well i? If a plane is fucked up, you have to find, you can't just go, well, I don't know. It seems fine now. You have to find, what was the thing that made it not be able to fly the first time and fix it?

So what's the fix? His issues were focused on the way those people behave in a small, very tight circle of people. Wait till he gets out into the world and sees that that circle is fucking everywhere. People are different. You're never going gonna talk to people where everybody's gonna agree with you about everything or you're gonna it's not gonna happen and i'm gonna say this we all have to figure out a way to fucking live amongst each other right we have to so that you can't you can't do this you can't just kill people because they don't think

and like the same things you like no and even if they are assholes even if you know they're assholes it doesn't matter. It doesn't. Because they probably think you're an asshole, too. Right. So it goes all the way. It sucks either way. So stop killing people is what we're saying here.

So there's enough murder for us forever. So we don't need anybody to. Don't do it on our behalf. We're all full up. Don't do it on our behalf anyway. So he. Never mind. That would be the worst.

Rob Zombie getting blamed. We get blamed. They said they needed more murders. I had to do it. So the lawyer said that he expressed gratitude to the Rusk State Hospital for restoring Evan's competency. Well done, Rob. Thanks for fixing him up, everybody. The prosecutor said this is a horrible tragedy.

When that happens, it's just impossible to know how, as a family, you're supposed to deal with it. They've been working hard to deal with all the circumstances of putting that back together. So sentencing comes around. He's got a court-appointed attorney. His family writes a letter and signs it, like his entire family, both sides, everything like that. his entire family both sides everything like that they said none of us want jake and our family to be subjected to a capital murder trial which we feel would not be in his or our family's best interest they don't want it dragged out right i don't blame them we wish to close this chapter in our lives in order to continue healing as a family and um yeah they also the prosecutor also

said he found the family inspiring with how quickly they forgave him and how wholly they embraced him. Oh, sweet. It's just awe-inspiring to see that amount of love for this kid. What? Yeah. Okay. The family, that's very nice that they're a forgiving family, but it sounds a little too loving from the prosecutor. I'm just real, I'm going gonna take the kid out to lunch you

know what i'm gonna take him to the cleaners and out to lunch but uh the judge says you sir young man may fuck off 45 years in prison pretty good for him um he must serve at least half of his sentence before becoming eligible for parole so he'll be given credit for the two and a half years he spent in a mental hospital and jail when he's awaiting trial. So 2012, 22 and a half years. What is that? 2034. That he can be out. Yeah, so another 12 years or so he'll be out.

I don't like that at all. I hope somebody figures out what the hell happened in that kid's head. Because I'd be like 45 and on the street. Hopefully not as angry. My God. Not as whatever. And let's just give that kid a copy of the water boy and send him on his way. I don't know.

He's so mad. He's very angry. But either way, that's it. He's still there. He's in prison in Texas. And I'm sure not having a great time in prison. Oh, boy. If he thinks it's a hard

at home when your sister's a dick wait till you see the way you have a cellmate yeah it's a little bit different that too so that said that is small town murder express everybody you think you're gonna have disagreement yeah let's do that wait till you're fucking arguing over somebody shitting six inches from your head right can you fucking give me a courtesy flush while I taste your shit in my mouth from three feet away? That is prison. About to have some pillow fights, sir. Yeah, that's a different kind of pillow fight. That's Small Town Murder Express.

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to officially killing up to 28 people. With a touch of humor. I'd just like to go ahead and say that if there's no band called Malevolent Deity, that is pretty great. A dash of sarcasm and just garnished a bit with a little bit of cursing. This mother f***er

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