Small Town Murder - #285 - STM Express - An Arrow For Your Thoughts - Berlin, New Jersey

Episode Date: May 27, 2022

This week, in Berlin, New Jersey, a simple backyard confrontation, between a young woman's new boyfriend, and her ex-boyfriend, turns into a family melee, with a large hunting bow & arrow makes its way onto the scene. After a man is killed, strange excuses are raised, including the fear of being attacked with disease riddled syringe, all the way to some of the strangest, least realistic injuries that man has ever blamed on sex. It's a strange tale of dumbness, violence, odd weapons, and conspiracy! Along the way, we find out that people should think long & hard before naming their town, that syringes aren't weapons, from 30 feet away, and that it's pretty much impossible to scrape your knuckles during sex!!Hosted by James Pietragallo and Jimmie WhismanNew episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [e-mail] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You're listening early and ad-free on Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, everybody, and welcome back to another Small Town Murder Express. Yay! Hey, indeed Murder Express. Yay! Yay indeed, Jimmy. Yay indeed. My name is James Petrigallo. I'm here with my co-host. I'm Jimmy Wissman. Absolutely. All aboard the murder train, folks. Yeah, choo-choo, you sons of bitches.

Choo-choo. Pulling away from the station. Thank you for joining us once again. We're going to get into this because we got a whole lot of just crazy murder. It's just, this is just insanity. Very quickly before we start, we want tickets for live shows, merchandise, everything like that. Shut up and give me murder.com is the place for that.

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everything you want to every superlative there is and then he just i mean he was always an asshole but he really went off the deep end and tanked it yeah we'll talk about that last year and then small town murder we're going to talk about something that people have been asking us to do for a long time we're going to talk about it like a 27 year old documentary on hbo max called lock up rikers island because it's the best earlys they got the doc game. They got in early. So early. So early.

So that and we're going to talk about general prison stuff and kind of difference in different states and stuff like that. We're going to get into prison stuff. I know international people are very interested in American

prisons and stuff and Americans do. So we'll talk about it all. It'll be gross. Get all of that. Patreon dot com slash crime and sports. And that said, let's do this, Jimmy. Let's go on a trip but before we do that i think it's time to clear the wall yeah let's do this

let's do this and clear the lungs and sit back and shout shut up and give me murder let's do this jimmy okay let's go on a trip shall we yeah? Yeah, we shall. All right. Let's head out. We were in Texas on the last Express episode. Was it? And yeah, it was Texas, I believe, if I'm not mistaken. And this week, though, we are going, oh no, it wasn't Texas. We were somewhere else. It doesn't matter where we were.

This week, we are in New Jersey. And that's always the Florida of the North, as we like to call it. New Jersey. It is a weird, weird place. We're going to Berlin, New Jersey, because why not? Why not name it after Berlin? It's in southwestern New Jersey. You can call any part of New Jersey a panhandle, really.

So you can be – It's a very odd-shaped place. You can liberally throw around the panhandle there. It's all panhandle and the whole state lives up to it too i must say yeah this is this is more when you think of jersey you think like oh outside of new york but this is more suburb of philly this place here in the south it's about 30 south of jersey it's about 30 minutes from philly so here uh a population shit that's across the the river there yeah it's it's

the suburbs yeah if you lived here you'd probably work in philly rather than you know be like a lot farther to new york uh population this town's about 5800 a little bit in there so it's a small little town kind of crammed in amongst a lot of towns there's no like it's not rural but you wouldn't say at all uh quickly a little bit of history just because it's wild. The original name of this place was Long Acoming. Gross. Which sounds like what a porn star announces before he jizzes on your face. You know, like that's Long Acoming.

You're like, oh boy, everyone get ready. That is disturbing. That's probably a porn title, right'm sure long a coming it has to be it's got coming and long in it i don't know how someone wouldn't have just put an a in between those and film something like absolutely well it was uh the local uh local natives here native americans use the long a conning trail that was what they called it and then somehow it became long a coming and uh that was that it was a stagecoach stop and all that kind of shit they laid the rail line in 1853 they built the long a coming railroad station all right oh boy you gotta come in there but in

1867 they were like you know what that is a everyone laughs and makes jokes let's um the of Bukkake jokes I've heard living in this town, I can't handle it. Let's change the name here. We really thought people would get sick of doing it, but it seems like it just keeps happening. It keeps happening. It's the same people. It's different people. It's old people, young people. It's too much.

Yeah. So they changed it to Magnolia, which sounds nicer, but there was nearby like within 20 miles there was another town already called magnolia so they were like you can't do that stupid so that only lasted three months and then they finally just changed it to berlin which who knows uh people from here kelly rippa was born here so is that right yeah it, it's a lot of Kelly Ripas walking around. Good luck with that, everybody. Couple of reviews of this town very quickly. Not a lot here for reviews.

There's a lot of five-star reviews. This town does a lot for the community and the children. This is five-star. The schools are absolutely outstanding, both academically and tends to the needs of each student. They have done a lot for my family and my children. Next to no crime activity, there's access to a wonderful park for kids. We also have the famous Berlin Diner.

Famous, Jimmy. I know that you've been. It's a goal to get there as a young man. Someday I'll get to that. German cuisine is a real it's a real it's a real tourist hot spot oh everyone loves it everyone says more kraut please uh we all we have the famous berlin diner that was featured in the movie jersey girl oh well then now i'm i'm all about it um here's a couple here that are weather related which i

always love when you review a town based on weather. Because weather's a thing that happened before you got there and was happening. You're moving into the weather. Yeah, right. So three stars. The last storm that sneaked up on my area, Jesus, was a surprise and local agencies were not quick to get the snow plows out on the main road. They need to be able to respond faster when weather happens suddenly. and local agencies were not quick to get the snow plows out on the main road. They need to be able to respond faster when weather happens suddenly.

You just said it. It's sudden. So, you know, that's what happens. And then another three-star. There's no, like, zero or one stars. No real bad ones. We have all four seasons here. Okay?

We do occasionally get bad winter storms and hurricanes, but they are normally not so bad. OK, great. So average. And then the only thing to do here is the Berlin Strawberry Festival. I could get down with that. That I like strawberries. Yeah, they started.

They were doing it years and years ago. Then they cranked it back up again. And they said, wow, it's it's really, you know, coming along. More people showed up than they thought they were out there right about 88 probably with strawberry shortcake it really kicked off it's no they did it like 50 years ago and then like three years ago they restarted it again okay and they missed the whole strawberry shortcake marketing missed the whole craze the whole 80s strawberry shortcake craze over their heads. Good smelling dolls and they didn't even capitalize. Not a thing.

Not a damn thing. Idiots. So, yeah, there's strawberry shortcake there. And then, of course, music. Rich Lelena and his friends. You got Ray Mixon. Are you going to go with the berries? You got Ray Mixon coming on down.

All right. Frank Varelli, who sounds like he owns a sandwich shop. Gino Ristra. Hey, I'm over here performing. Of course. Come see me over here. What are you doing with that fucking fuck strawberry? You get strawberries anywhere.

You can only get Gino Ristra right fucking here. Let's go. So far, 50% of the acts are very Italian. Well, yeah. Well, what do you expect? And I'm sure Ray Mixon changed his name because that's what happens a lot, too. Sonny Barry. He used to be Marinara.

Yeah. He used to be Ray Marinara, and he changed it. He used to be Ray Mastacholi, and he shortened it up a little. Sonny Barry, which definitely sounds like an anglicized Italian name. His name's like Baramangioni or some shit. And he's like, I'm Sonny Barry. How you doing? Nice to meet you.

Is that the headliner? You got to have him headline, right? And Sky's Hot Red Trio. That's the last one. I don't know what that is. So anyway, that's the town. Fuck that. Let's talk about a murder.

Let's do this, Jimmy. We got to go back not too far for this one. Going back to 2013. So not very far. Let's do this. This is January 28th, 2013. I'm going to talk about a couple of people first off. So it's a nice night.

People are sitting outside in the yard talking. There's kind of a small, kind of a social gathering. January? It's a nice night? Apparently so. It's not bad out because they're all hanging out outside. Wow. Jersey people are different.

Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely. And it's an evening time, too, so it's going to get chilly. Yeah, they better be having jackets on. Jesus. There's a barbecue area out there. What? I don't know if they're not grilling right now but there's like a barbecue like sit down hang out barbecue area and that's where they're hanging out yeah from what it sounds like this is the the woman who lives here who's

kind of the directing the social activities here is trisha dulin is her name d-u-l-i-n and uh she's in her early 20s and everybody here is kind of in their early 20s she lives in the house with her family as well so like her dad her parents and shit like that so i feel like it's one of those like they're hanging out outside they can like drink and smoke and you know bullshit annoy the parents exactly sorry i still live here but i gotta have a life that sort of thing so she's hanging out outside that night talking to a young man named Vincent DeFilippis. Vinny DeFilippis, how you doing? How are you?

I missed my spot at Strawberry Festival. I couldn't make it, you know what I mean? So the other guy, Sonny Barry, took my place. Of course there's a Vinny D. Hey, Vinnie D. So they're sitting outside talking. And like I said, this is Trish's house. And there's like an outdoor bar, barbecue area deal out there.

So that's the other thing. If there's a bar, temperature be damned. They must not have a basement. Yeah. Beer's cold. Booze is cold. So they're socializing this is the first time apparently they've ever they've hung out since they had graduated from high school which was a

few years ago so jesus yeah they're catching up you know what i mean your reunion it's a yeah like a like a five-year reunion you could call it so um for when they who knows dropped out slash graduated on our show you never can tell. Forced out one way or the other. Yeah, forced out's a good way to put it. Let's just say that, since they were forced from high school with their hair on fire. So anyway, at about 10 p.m. that night, so I mean, Jesus, it's 10 p.m. in late January. It's going to be...

It's somebody's mom's house. They're still outside hanging out. And this Vinnie D., they must like each other. We'll put it that way also because you don't talk to somebody unless you're into them in the cold. Yeah. Yeah. At 10 p.m. in the Jersey winter night. Right.

So someone else shows up at 10 p.m. This is a Coretti Paulson is his name. K.E.R.E.T.I. Now, Coretti here is Trisha's ex-boyfriend. They've only recently broken up. Now, Coretti here, Paulson, he is 25 years old. He's we'll talk about what he does and stuff. But he's got a child who's four years old at this point with another girl.

And then there is some discrepancy over whether he is also Trisha's daughter's father as well. Got it. So it seems like she says he is and that sort of thing, but he has told people that he isn't. So we don't know exactly pops through at 10 p.m he comes up at 10 p.m pops up in the backyard this is the backyard this isn't the front yard mind you that's that's questionable he pops up and um you know their relationship was a tough one they had uh it was rocky young people and at the time they were both doing drugs as well so well that makes it much harder we've also if you haven't seen dope sick love watch it on hbo max because when you mix drugs

into a young relationship it's it makes it rocky let's just say for the screaming each other's name you see you get sebastian in the middle of man. It's problems, problems, problems. So Paulson, you know, from around this area, he graduated from high school in 2006 from Eastern High School in Voorhees. And he's been working like restaurant bar jobs, bartender, server, that sort of thing. He worked at a place in Wildwood. You know, he's he's he's bouncing around. He's trying to figure it out. He also into music he does music i don't not sure what he plays or i don't know if he's uh i don't know what his musical proclivities are maximizing uh bill maximizing

cash flow per ability yeah i'm not sure so he's doing his thing though um apparently he's a good dad actually he's got his ex-girlfriend's name is Lauren Palmer, and they have the kid together. And she said that he was a good dad, always around there. She also will say that he's not the father of Trisha's child, even though everybody else says that he is. Lauren says this? Yeah, Lauren Palmer says that, the ex. She says that she and Paulson and coretti there have remained friends she called him quote my personal comic relief okay and very funny yeah she described him

as a genuinely nice good guy but also he struggles with drugs a lot she said quote he was always wanting to be clean which is wanting to be clean and being clean are extremely different things. Yeah. So wishing one hand needle in the other. Absolutely. Absolutely. He has several arrests, mostly on drug charges in his past, which happens. So apparently Tricia had started seeing another guy and Paulson wanted her back, and that's what's going on.

And so now Paulson is in the backyard thinking that DeFilippis is the guy. Vinny D. Vinny D. is the fucking guy I'm after here. He's the one there. On Paulson's MySpace page. Oh, boy. Yeah. 2013.

That's a little late for a MySpace page, by the way. Sure the fuck is. Yeah, you were riding myspace to its last he was really bad timberlake was turning this ship around wow yeah 2013 that was justin bought it 2008 was like okay well that was the peak of it yeah no that was like the okay it's starting to die now yeah that was the peak of it like it's starting to go away because that's when facebook was started to come up so Yeah, that was the peak of it. Like, it's starting to go away. Because that's when Facebook started to come up. That's when it started to vamp up.

Yeah, everyone was like, oh, this is weird. I don't want to listen to everybody's favorite song when I click on their stupid page. Worse, it was like people were like, I don't want to have two of these stupid things, and now they have six of them. Now they have 12 all with different passwords, and they get a new phone phone and they need to sign in

because the facial recognition needs you to sign in once and then you don't remember it and then you fucking have to start over so anyway but still i hope justin timberlake lost a shitload of money on that i'm sure he did i don't know how he wouldn't have i don't know how he wouldn't have what was he thinking hey that old thing no one likes i'm gonna make him like it again all righty you're even better off just investing in a new one you know yeah taking a chance rolling the dice but the changes that he made were not what everybody wanted to change like that i didn't even know what he was still there it was it was it's just a different layout i didn't even know what he did because it was so

dead by then it didn't matter you know so myspace he leaves a long note describing his relationship with Trisha on his MySpace page. And the end of the note says, I love you very much, Trisha Ann Doolin, and will love you for as long as we both shall live. So, yeah. He also. Good place to put that. Nobody's going to see it. He also. Yeah.

Him and four other people. He also talks about their fights all the time, his regrets. He makes apologies on his MySpace page to her all the time. So apparently, according to her sister, Trisha's got a sister named Ashley who also lives in the house. We'll talk about who exactly is living in this home. But she said the family disliked Paulson because he got Trisha into drugs. That's what everybody says. So we don't know if that's true.

We don't know if she was doing drugs beforehand. We have no idea. Do we know what drug it is that he does? There's needles involved in these drugs. We'll put it that way. Yeah, it's not just. It's legit hardcore shit. Yeah, there's needles involved as we talk about.

Once syringes make their first appearance, now you're in a whole other level. Now it's really hard to get out yeah that's a whole other fucking thing we've talked about that before so um apparently they used heroin that was their deal their drug of choice and uh tricia broke up with paulson she i guess got clean and he wasn't getting clean that was the the crux of the whole thing. That's what the family said anyway. So she broke up with him and he wanted her back. That's the thing about being clean. After being an addict, you cannot be around the people that are addicts anymore.

No, no. If they're not going to be on board with it, it's going to be difficult for you to do that. So now Vinny, Vinny D, he knew Paulson from high school. So he was like, oh, yeah, I know this guy. Like everybody's familiar here. He said he hadn't seen him since he graduated high school, though. It's been years since he saw him. He graduated before them.

Yeah, a couple Paulson, Paulson ends up approaching Vinny D. And immediately a physical fight ensues. Gee. Well, it is New Jersey, Jimmy. That's what happens. In New Jersey, if you approach someone, that means we're fighting. There's no other. That's how it is.

What are you looking at? I don't know. You think you're better than me? No, you're better than me, and then you're punching. You don't even know each other. You have no idea what you're even? I don't know. You think you're better than me? No, you're better than me, and then you're punching. You don't even know each other. You have no idea what you're even doing there before any explanations. People fight the Amazon guy. They don't care.

Punching the nose is a Jersey handshake. Would you put that on my porch just like that? Yeah, you put it on the porch. Get over here. All right, and then they're fighting each other. That's all. It's a Jersey fist bump. It's called the face bump.

They do it a little differently there. So a physical fight ensues. Nothing terrible. Nobody grabs like a, there are no knives involved. Nobody grabs a rock and hits the other guy. This isn't. Maybe some punching. That's exactly what it is.

Some scrapes they have from being on the ground. A little bloody knuckles. You know, hey, this guy. Went to the ground. Oh, yeah. They were punching and they were wrestling. I mean, that's. Some ground. Little bloody knuckles. And, you know, hey, this guy. Went to the ground. Oh, yeah. They were punching and then they were wrestling. Yeah. I mean, that's.

Ground and pound in this thing. Every fight between people that don't know how to fight ends up on the ground. Either they know how to wrestle really well or if they don't know how to fight at all. That's their only. I don't know how to punch. I better grab you or I know how to grab you really well. And so I'll grab you. One of the two.

And they take him to the ground in like a really hard slam. Like ends the fight yeah yeah never seen anybody go out no no no well it's like wrestling though if you give someone a good power slam then they would have you know it's their stuns them enough you can get up everybody yeah at least pose to the crowd for a minute you know at least the crowd watched me do that because i can't punch this guy down no exactly so the fight was short though and um you know trisha was trying to get in the middle of it nobody wanted to punch trisha so everybody kind of broke it up it was a very little scuffle between two you know jersey morons basically so shouldn't have happened that's exactly it was stupid this guy's in the backyard hey how's it going i haven't seen you since high school oh fuck now we're punching each other why are you punching me yeah it was one of those so

i don't blame d philippus for this he seemed to be fine but uh either way uh trisha ends up now yelling at paulson and telling him the relationship's over you can't come around the backyard to get mad because i'm talking to guys we're not together it's okay trespassing yeah so trisha then goes inside the house with uh vinnie d they go in together and paulson remains outside standing in the driveway okay so now he's out in the driveway so trisha then tells her family by the way her family here um is based uh it's her mom and dad, Thomas and Helen. Then her sister, Ashley, also lives here. And Ashley's fiance, Timothy Canfield, he lives there as well. He's 25 years old.

And they have a child as well. And Ashley has a five-year-old who is Tim's son, Timothy Canfield's son, and Trisha also has a son. So there's a lot going on. A lot of Jersey stuffed into this house, man. Three generations of it. Yeah, it's happening. So Trisha tells her family, oh, Christ, he's still out there. Paulson, he's still sitting in the driveway.

So Ashley comes out with her soon-to-be husband, her fiancé, Timothy Canfield. They come outside. They come out of the bedroom, and they're like, what the fuck's going on here? He's an auto mechanic, Timothy, here. That's a tough dude. That's a tough dude. He's got his wife slash fiancé. We don't know which.

And a young child here. So Canfield, he's got a couple of scrapes as well. In 2004, when he was a juvenile, he was placed on probation for endangering the welfare of a four-year-old child. What did he do? And is a, quote, Megan's Law registrant. What? I don't know what the fuck he did but um megan's law is like firing into the air isn't it uh possibly maybe that's the megan's law maybe he shot her google it but

maybe he fired a weapon around a child either way yeah he's he you know you can get a good picture of what's going on here yes he's a little he's a loose cannon when you're a megan's law registrant or any child's names law registrant you're that's a problem probably oh it is way worse that is a sex offender okay well there you go so endangering the welfare of a four-year-old four one two three four four-year-old uh the prosecutor here uh later and another one also charged him with in 2008 with burglary and a theft charge as well. So the theft charge was eventually expunged from his record. That was juvenile. But the he still got the Megan's law thing going on. So apparently that you don't age out of that. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, i'm used to a very specific one though yeah that they you know they put in there that's fascinating that they say it that way maybe it was like something that wasn't you know what i mean i think it's worse yeah i think that's specific because like a sex offender registry you could be pissing in an alley and get on that you know what i mean like this might be actually like you were around a kid fucking around like this is not just sex offense any sex offense this is this guy touched a four year old or i don't know if he touched a four year old or whatever the fuck he did around a four-year-old something illegal around a four-year-old yeah but megan's law uh doesn't tell me what he did you know what i mean no and he was a juvenile. So much so that I had to Google that shit. It's fucked up.

So either way, some form of pervert, we can say, I would say. There you go. There you go. Some form of pervert, Timothy Canfield is. Why is that word so much fun? It's a hilarious word. It always makes me laugh because my mother told me when I was like two years old, we were in the grocery store and some douchebag old man was in there and my mother was buying cookies for me. And the old man came up and said, is your mommy buying you cookies?

Are you going to is your mommy a cookie monster? And I with great indignance, I was offended by this. I said, my mommy's not a cookie monster. My mommy's a pervert, I told him. I don't know where I heard that word at two years old. I didn't know what it meant, obviously, but I told him clear as day, pointing in his face, my mommy's a pervert. And he was like, what the fuck? She said it made him go away, though.

Maybe that's all i was trying to do yeah your life getting people away from you keep walking old man that's right we're perverts over here see these carrots she'll stick it right up your ass my mother she's a fucking she's a sick one you sir are talking to a pervert you're talking to a pervert yeah the church so um the way it's put in a court record is as a juvenile he was adjudicated delinquent for endangering the welfare of a child he was sentenced to a three-year term of probation he violated the probation and was sentenced to continued probation as a result of that violation. And as an adult, he successfully completed pretrial intervention after being charged with the third degree criminal trespass.

And there was a burglary thing in there. At the time, though, he's fully clear. He's not on probation, not on parole, no restraining orders. He's doing doing fine. Just keep him away from the kids, even though he has. But also with all of that granted i don't know that i trust him around my kids but i do trust him to go out front and clear the front yard of assholes clear it of assholes he's probably got a big wrench hanging

around he's a mechanic you know not afraid to hit somebody with it that's big lug wrench hey vitty d come with me so um ashley also says, oh, Paulson, we think he stole from our house one time. So Timothy at this point gets mad that they're all sitting in the house. Canfield's like, why are we all sitting here? This fucking jerk off's outside. He's a fucking junkie and he's a thief and, you know, he won't go away. And what are we going to sit in here and be hostage? I'll solve this.

Yeah, I will go out there, rub my balls on his forehead and see how he likes that. Yeah, that's right. Don't worry, everyone. I'm a Megan's Law registrant. I'll take care of this. I know how to handle this. Nobody wants to be around when there's a pervert around. I'll go out there.

I'll go out there. Hold on. I'll let him know what a pervert i am hold on a minute be right back he'll run away don't worry just my megan's lot paperwork yeah i'll go show it to him hold on wait let me get my identification card here you go there you go sir sir take a look at this business card right here you're trespassing on a pervert's property actually does he live close by because i'm supposed to tell everybody so if i haven't already told him i that's i'm really just doing my legal duty at this point right so he gets angry and he goes this guy's not supposed to be here

so um at this point trisha ashleynie D., and Canfield all go outside. All right. Two couples. Now we got a mob. Now we got a rumble. This is great. Chains and knives only, please. So they go outside.

They begin to argue with Paulson. They argue with him for several minutes for some reason, and then they go back inside the house, the four of them, and he remains outside in the driveway so that was pointless yep still trick still sitting out there now what canfield does he's got an idea of how to get rid of him he grabs himself a compound bow and some arrows what yes do you know what a compound bow is they're the ones that have like the one with two strings, right?

It's got like three strings. And the pulley system and shit? Yeah. It looks like a harp with a firetop. Yeah. It takes down elk. That's the thing. It's used in, I looked up the whole thing, they're used in target practice and hunting

mainly. The pulley cam system grants the user a mechanical advantage, and so the limbs of a compound bow are much stiffer than that of a recurve or longbow. This rigidity makes the compound bow more energy efficient than other bows as less energy is dissipated in limb movement. But don't you dare

dry fire that because it will pull all those strings off the pulleys and you will restring that fucking thing. Damn it. I'll throw this out now. The higher rigidity, higher technology construction also improves accuracy by reducing the bow's sensitivity to changes in temperature and humidity.

Okay. This is what he does. It's got a little fucking target on it, James. Yeah. Oh, they're crazy. I know that. They're insane. They're crazy fucking, yeah.

They're wild. It takes all the bow and arrow work out of bow and arrow hunting that's so easy it's not like your typical like you'd think of it like archery like they made you do in high school or some shit you know like back in the day it's not that sort of thing this is a different this is the ar-15 of bow hunting yeah this thing is wild so it's all a light-hearted nightmare on our podcast morbid we're your hosts i'm al. I'm Alina Urquhart. And I'm Ash Kelly. And our show is part true crime, part spooky, and part comedy. The stories we cover are well-researched.

He claimed and confessed to officially killing up to 28 people. With a touch of humor. I'd just like to go ahead and say that if there's no band called Malevolent Deity, that is pretty great. A dash of sarcasm and just garnished a bit with a little bit of cursing. This mother f***er lied. Like a liar. Like a liar.

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It's all a lighthearted nightmare on our podcast, Morbid. We're your hosts. I'm Alina Urquhart. And I'm Ash Kelly. And our show is part true crime, part spooky, and part comedy. The stories we cover are well-researched. He claimed and confessed to officially killing up to 28 people.

With a touch of humor. I'd just like to go ahead and say that if there's no band called Malevolent Deity, that is pretty great. A dash of sarcasm and just garnished a bit with a little bit of cursing. This mother****er lied. Like a liar. Like a liar. And if you're a weirdo like us and love to cozy up to a creepy tale of the paranormal, or you love to hop in the Wayback Machine and dissect the details of some of history's most notorious crimes,

you should tune in to our podcast, Morbid. Follow Morbid on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to episodes early and ad-free by joining Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. During this, he goes outside and there's a bit of a confrontation. Hey, get the hell out of here. He's got his bow.

There's a difference between them of about 30 feet at this point, by the way. That is shit. They're close, but they're not within punching distance at all for a bow it's a very short distance but i mean there's no like you know hand weapons or punching isn't going to do anything from this type of deal so um they uh he went outside and he said that later on he'll claim canfield here was afraid of paulson and didn't know what paulson was going to do so he's unpredictable he's a junkie for god's sake didn't know what Paulson was going to do. He said, he's unpredictable. He's a junkie, for God's sake. You never know what those people are going to do.

So he yelled at Paulson to leave. He said again and again, and he wouldn't leave. He said, get the hell out of here. And he said, no. It's winter in New Jersey at night. He's leaving eventually. Call the police. The windchill's about fucking eight below.

I think he's going to leave soon right now. He's got icicles hanging from his nose. Looks like Nicholson at the end of The Shining. I think he's going to leave soon right now. He's got icicles hanging from his nose. Looks like Nicholson at the end of The Shining. I think he's going to leave soon. Call the police and tell them there's a junkie and a pervert. They'll show up fast. Yeah, right now there's a junkie, a pervert, and a bow and arrow in my front yard. Not going to tell you who's got what or who's doing what, but just come sort it out.

What'd you think? So you hang up. Lock the doors. Put a movie on. Lock the doors, turn the lights off. Put a goddamn movie on. So Canfield said that at this point, he claims that Paulson started coming toward him.

And he claims that he pulled something out of his pocket. Paulson did. So he said he started, he's 30 feet away, and he started walking toward him, and he saw him pull something out of his pocket, Paulson did. So he said he started, he's 30 feet away, and he started walking toward him, and he saw him pull something out of his pocket. He says this. He says that it was dark, and I couldn't really tell what it was. But from the looks of it, from what he could see in the dark from 30 feet away, he decided that Paulson must have pulled out an HIV-infected needle.

Okay. Because that's what I usually, that's what I think immediately. A hell of a job. When someone goes in their pocket, I go, he must have an HIV-infected needle in there, everybody, right? That's what we're all thinking. That's the weapon of choice that most people have. What, that AIDS? Jesus.

Oh, Jesus, yeah, he's going gonna spray it everywhere that's normal it's 1994 that's a crazy thing to think it's insanity so the the only time i've ever heard of this is on oz the show about prison when adebisi stuck a guy with an aids needle and that was a big deal so anyway anyway, think about this confrontation. 1030 at night. You can hear the wind chill. It's cold out there. There's some snow on the ground. You can see your breath.

You can taste the snow. We got an auto mechanic with a fucking huge, crazy, scary, terrifying bow. With pulleys on it. And apparently a man wielding an an hiv infected needle in a confrontation in the front yard in the snow this is ridiculous wow i don't even know this is your equivalent to the old west yeah i was gonna say this is like the end of the good the bad and the ugly is going on right now if eli wallach had an aids needle it's just different where's lee van cleef's crossbow is what i didn't notice so this is ridiculous obviously the whole thing is asinine he says that he figured that's what it was because from what he knows in a recent text message he saw that he saw Canfield says that Paulson acknowledged that he was HIV HIV positive to Tricia.

So he had told her he was HIV positive and now he's coming toward him. So what must be in his hand is a, you know, an HIV needle, obviously. So because that's that's what he's got. He's going to wield that. That's you know, that like having a a full clip if you're he goes i have leaders of this shit i can just get you you have no idea i have it in reserve so um yeah anyway this is what ends up happening um apparently during this he at some point he fires a bow at paulson or an arrow he fires an arrow at paulson which you got to pull it back right so there still must be some distance and uh he fires the arrow at

paulson and he hits him he hits him with a fucking arrow where in the in the chest in the torso oh my god center mast center mast him mast him with an arrow. That is crazy. This is crazy. So now he's staggering away, okay? We don't know what's up with the needle at this point. So he's staggering away, and he staggers into a neighbor's yard. Like he's trying to get away from there.

The neighbor, this is as crazy as it gets. Pulled out their bow and shot him again no the neighbor the neighbor pulled out a uh catapult on his roof and shot a fucking cannonball at this guy that would be the only thing that would make this any weirder wasn't it boiling oil the neighbor mounted his horse and picked up his jousting rod and challenged fucking uh canfield to a match. That would be the only thing any weirder. This is crazy.

This is bonkers. So there's a neighbor named Joseph Casis, of course, and he comes out of his house to investigate because now he's heard all sorts of crazy shit and they were yelling at each other. He sees Paulson in his front yard lying on the ground and asks him from the front porch there, because it's cold out, he's not coming out,

he says, hey, you okay? What's going on here? So that's when Canfield comes over, waves at the neighbor and goes, nah, he's just been drinking, sorry, we'll get him out of your yard, don't worry. He's been drinking, he fell over. He's got a fucking three-foot-long arrow

protruding from his torso you just shot him you pervert you goddamn pervert what are you gonna jerk off on him now get out both the off my property he's been drinking who are you dommer what are we doing jesus christ this is this is a dommer situation they don't call it long a coming for nothing. Here I go. So anyway, he said he's been drinking. So Cassis shrugged his shoulders and went back in the house. All right. All right. That's fine.

It's South Jersey. You know, it happens. Drunks pass out on your lawn. So Cassis said that he'd been hearing noise coming from the Doolin's backyard the whole evening. that he'd been hearing noise coming from the Doolin's backyard the whole evening and uh that before he came out and saw the apparently drunken Paulson laying there he said that he heard someone say quote what are you gonna shoot me with that and then he said which is not good then he heard some uh quote some groans underneath his bedroom window and it sounded like someone was in distress so someone was shot with that yeah so he went outside heard he was drinking went inside then because he's still listening to outside now i'm now you're curious you know yeah yeah minding

your own business is one thing but this is getting to where you got to put your ear up to the door and listen now there's only so much personal business you can mind before it's this is now your business now you turn all the lights out and just open the blinds a 100th of an inch and stare out there what's going on the older guy he's coming out now i don't know he looks upset let me hold on wait i'll tell you in a minute like this is a oh he's got a pulley system bow oh jesus this isn't good there's always a narrator in that situation never it's never both people looking out it's one person there's too much gap in between the blinds it's gotta be one eye one little eye and then it's a narration this is what's happening

oh my god is he doing that i don't know i told you what i see how can i tell you whatever i see i'll tell you about i'm not hiding anything so he said he heard are you gonna shoot me with that then while he was inside he believed he quote believed he heard someone say something about being shot with an arrow okay which is you know something to be concerned about so then he he had his son call 911 he's like why don't you call 911 there might be a wounded man outside there. So anyway, back to Timothy Canfield here. Around this time, he drags Paulson back over to his side of the yard there, not to cause any alarm with Cassis. Bleed on our snow.

Must have reached in Paulson's pocket because he takes out his cell phone and calls 911, Canfield does, And pretends to be Paulson. What? Why? He says, I'm this guy and I've been shot. Okay. All right? So, because he wants to call 911, but he doesn't want to be like, I just shot a guy with an arrow.

So, anyway, he leaves him out there, walks in the house with his bow and arrow, and then tells the gathered masses in the house, quote, I shot an arrow. I don't know what happened. He knows exactly what happened, first of all. So, yeah, he said he shot an arrow. Then he told his wife slash fiancee, Ashley, that he shot an arrow at the fence to scare Paulson. That was his goal here. Just a terrible shot.

Or the best shot. One of the two. So about 10.50 p.m., 10.50, officers from the Berlin Police Department reach the scene. When they get there, they find Paulson lying face down kind of by the neighbor's yard there. He doesn't appear to be alive. They rush him to the hospital where he is pronounced

dead, obviously. They find, as well, here's the medical examining quick here. Medical examiner who performed the autopsy concluded that Paulson died from an arrow wound to the abdomen that caused massive bleeding. When's the last time you heard that

as a cause of death? 1878? Someone was coming across the prairie? Like, what are we talking about here? Custer was the last person to die like this, I think, maybe? 300? Yeah, 300? What are we doing? I think Custer was after 300, so we'll give him the most recent.

But the most famous, maybe 300. So he explained the medical examiner that the path of the V-shaped wound, because it's an arrow, went through the abdominal wall, the stomach, then struck a large vein called the iliac vein and ended with a partial exit on the back. Is that the big one that goes through your spine? Yeah. And it went through him, Jimmy. Oh, my God. He had it sticking out of his stomach, and then it was coming out of his back like Steve Martin doing a fucking comedy act. Yeah, around his waist. Yeah, he just put it around his waist.

I want to switch it up tonight, everybody. And we love Steve Martin. Don't get upset. He's the greatest. It resulted in, quote, two and a half liters of blood within the abdomen, within his abdomen. It filled up with blood. Oh, internal bleeding. Which normally, quote, shouldn't contain any blood.

Is that right? If it's usually zero, two and a half is bad. Two and a half liters is bad. Medical examiner noted that KP, quote, had no preexisting conditions or diseases that could have contributed to his death. And he didn't have HIV. We don't know if that means he didn't have HIV or he didn't have HIV enough to, didn't turn into AIDS to kill him or what it was, but that's in the medical report, so I'm not sure. What he didn't have were any diseases that caused two and a half liters of blood to be in your abdomen.

To fill your abdomen and an arrow to poke out of your back. Right. Next to his body, they found an orange poke out of your back next to his body. They found an orange capped syringe lying there. Okay. An orange capped syringe. Now, police, they question at the house, Vinnie D and Tricia there, and they end up giving conflicting statements. So then they put them in separate police vehicles to talk to them again.

so then they put them in separate police vehicles to talk to them again so tricia initially told the police that she had not seen paulson in weeks and didn't know why the officers had been dispatched to the residence they showed up knocked on the door and she's like how you guys doing and they were like uh we hear there's a guy shot with an arrow in your yard and she was like i don't know anything about that there's a guy out there yeah and Yeah. And they're like, you know, Coretti Paulson. And she's like, I haven't seen him in weeks. She acted like he didn't, wasn't there that night and knew nothing about it. He's bleeding out in the yard, mind you. He just fought your boyfriend in the backyard.

And then bled out in the yard. Yeah. Right. So this is odd. And DeFilippis, Vinny D, also lied to the police initially, later saying that he was concerned that they had been called because they were fighting earlier maybe that's why the cops were there which we know is bullshit because Canfield announced to everybody I'm going out with the bow and arrow to clear the yard and then came in I shot an arrow I don't know what happened so he's a pretty good idea also Vinny D

better fess up quick because you've got scrapes all over you. Well, we're getting. Yeah, that's the next sentence here. Guilty as fuck. Well, he initially told police and this is even worse because he lied about it. He initially tells police that his knuckles were bloody. Why, Jimmy? Why are his knuckles ripped up and scraped and bleeding? I do a lot of pushups. You'll know that would actually be at least a plausible in some way what's the craziest thing

he could say uh i do a lot of jerking off you're actually close all right my knuckles are torn up and ripped up in bloody quote from engaging in sexual activity with trisha i've been kissing her all night and she has teeth in there what are we talking about how would your knuckles get scraped from sexual activity how the fuck look i'm up for whatever people do your freaky shit i've never been like oh boy looks like i really punched a shit out of someone after i'm done never happened once i've never had a, boy, it looks like I really punched the shit out of someone after I'm done. Never happened once. I've never had a... Officer, she can't come unless I punch her in the twat. And somehow I punched her so many times

my knuckles opened up. Either that or she's got metal and jewelry down there. She's got eight clit rings, officer. Eight of them. Some of them are big and bulky. I don't know. I just cut you up down there what in the fuck is happening like the guy from disturbed down there imagine you show up to this scene and this is the stories you're hearing

arrows junkies needles yeah this is an absolute saber-toothed twat yeah 100 it's like an it's like an eel down there you don't want to get too close to it she's very oh my god sexual activity oh man she has a viper vagina don't get near it take your vicious take your knuckles skin off. What a dumb thing. That's a story. What on the spot was that? That sucks. That's why it was that. So they asked Trish about that.

Like a panicked family feud answer. Yeah. Name five things you find in the bathroom. And the guy's like, a, yeah. What? Uh, name five things you find in the bathroom. And the guy's like, uh, a raincoat. Shit. What? Shit. I'm so sorry.

Why'd I say that? Bloody knuckles from sexual activity. No, that's not in the bathroom. Steve Harvey would roll his eyes. So Trisha disputes that statement when asked about it did he get and she's like what are you talking about so police then said let's take them to the police station because this is this is ridiculous we're hearing crazy stories so they talked to other dool and family members uh this is prior to transporting them to the station they're just

outside in the cars at this point um when they knocked on the door of the residence canfield initially answered and uh then notified helen he answered like oh boy cops are here yeah bow and arrow guy he said helen doolan who's trish's mom and the homeowner hey uh police are here they say they want to search trish's bedroom i don't know you're the homeowner so you should talk to him that was the first time he talked with the police canfield so helen gives a consent to search the bedroom and uh police requests that ashley and helen come to the police station to provide statements uh at this point canfield remains at the residence while everyone else except for Mr. Doolin, Trish's dad. It's just Canfield and Trish's dad are the only ones left at the house.

Everyone else is taken to the police station. Okay. Almost got the murderer. Almost. So when they searched the house here, this is the other thing. Oh, by the way, the record shows that Trish's mother consented to the search and the police also came back with a warrant. So they had like double coverage on that one. Yeah.

Actually, good police work. The police went to the residence. They searched Trish's bedroom. They found quite a bit of drugs and other orange cap syringes that are the exact same make model and everything is the one outside next to Paulson. Oh, OK. Oh, they also found drugs on Paulson that were also the same as the ones in the house also. So someone went outside and was like, here you go.

Like the Dave Chappelle jokes, sprinkle some crack on him. One of those. So the syringe is identical to the orange cap syringe that they found there. So now they're very suspicious. So they end up interviewing Canfield. They got to talk to everybody. The early morning hours of January 29th. Now, this is Ashley and Helen return home and he comes.

He goes to the police. They're switching out the batches of interviewees here. So the first interview they ask him, he says, I shit. I don't know. We had like a little scuffle and I told him to go away and then I went inside and went to sleep. That's all. That's it. You know, and then he later on claims that that was the first altercation he's talking about when everybody went outside. Then he claims that, you know, he wasn't outside during any other altercation. Then he says that he never left the premises that night and never followed Paulson onto a neighbor's property. That never happened. When they're asking you specific questions like that, that means someone told them a specific narrative of what happened and they know what happened. And you got to have some information and they're trying to corroborate the information.

And now they know you're lying because you said this. This is when you go, I need a lawyer now. That's it. Because they have information as soon as they say did you follow him here okay they have witnesses they know what happened i'm fucked get me a lawyer nothing i say statements that need to be refuted yeah so um he also said that he'd not spoken to any of his neighbors what did he think that cassis was going to cover for him right telepathically he'd know to do that he that. He's the guy, he's the first one who called 911.

When questioned further, he admitted, okay, yeah, I did talk to Casis. Did you talk to your next door neighbor, Casis? Obviously, they know you did. And you go, no. Okay, stupid. So he said that he did speak with him and he lied when he explained to Casis

that Paulson was on the ground because he was drunk said that he uh he did speak with him and he lied when he explained to cassis that peretti or paulson was on the ground because he was drunk rather than because he had been shot with an arrow which obviously is what happened absolutely so i did know he was shot with an arrow and then he finally also admitted to police that yes he was the one who used paulson's phone to call 9-1-1 and pretend to be paulson and tell the operator that he was shot we tried he tried to spin it like, I wanted to get the guy some help, but I was trying to mind my own business, you know what I mean? I don't want to get too involved with this type of thing. And this is terrible because he has now admitted that he shot him,

knew he was shot, and did nothing to help. That's not good. Well, he called 911 and pretended to be him. Later. So then he sits for a little while. Then they interview him a second time okay the next day during his second interview he reveals that he lied a lot during his first interview which we knew already he then disclosed that yes he's the guy who shot the arrow total accident

mind you but he then he also discarded the bow in a wooded area a few miles from the police station after the police had taken everybody down to the station. He jumped in the car and went and threw the fucking bow out. Wow. Yeah. He told police that he did this because he was scared and panicked. He agreed to take the officers to the location where he discarded the weapon. After police recovered the bow, they take him back to the residence where he then reenacts the version of events that he did.

They have him do a reenactment which is always bad when you're lying because you can't make chilling you can't make the fits like that diane downs reenactment when she couldn't make it line up and she was like just started laughing it was oof so uh he does that they videotape this obviously because it's going to be hilarious later you know the cops are going to get stoned and watch that later and fucking die laughing yeah some evidence he told police that the bow quote wasn't even fully drawn it was just the tension on the string and when i pulled back i guess i tripped and immaculate of the immaculate job and an amazing effort went right through the center yeah but then at another point he says he didn't accidentally shoot the arrow and he said he shot the arrow intentionally as

a warning shot to scare him but then he goes back to it was an accident so now this is fucking crazy so anyway um by the way his ex paulson's ex-girlfriend there, the Laura Palmer woman, she said, Lauren Palmer, not Laura Palmer, not Twin Peaks. She's still getting that, though. With Lauren Palmer, you're still getting that. She said, quote, he didn't deserve this about Paulson. I'm not saying anyone does, but he was never malicious to anyone. He was a genuinely good person and we loved him very much and said that I know Aurora, that's the daughter, will struggle with this throughout her life.

She won't remember him. She was too young when he was taken. But Coretti's friends and our family tell her about him all the time. She will know who her father was. She also one of the worst murders ever. That that hurts so bad. And then you bleed out. who her father was. She also, one of the worst murders ever. That, that, that hurts so bad. And then you bleed out.

How long does it take you to bleed? I mean, probably with that vein, probably pretty fast, fast. Still, you feel your belly filling with blood. She also said the nine one one call was the worst thing I've ever heard in my life.

Tim is so cold and relaxed through it. But in the background, you can hear Caretti crying, moaning and asking for help. His gasps will haunt our family for the rest of our lives. So they charge Canfield initially, but he's released on bond because they don't know what to do with him. But three years go by, and that's how it stands. They don't know what to do, right?

The court hasn't happened yet. He's just in the limbo. Wow. Finally, August of 2016, Vinny D comes forward with some information. What's he got to say? And he says this quote. So the day we got out of the police interrogation from when everything happened that following morning, we were at the police department that night, January 28th, for about nine hours. The next morning, the police drove me and Tricia back to the house in the police car, both of us.

So when we got to the house, Mr. Doolin, who's Tricia's dad, was sitting there waiting for us. And when we got out of the car and the cops had left everything and we got inside and settled down, there was kind of like a family meeting of everybody that was involved. and settled down, there was kind of like a family meeting of everybody that was involved. And they came up with the story that we're going to say that Paulson had an HIV positive needle. So it was self-defense instead of him just shooting an arrow at somebody he didn't like. And everybody spoke about it. And I guess they had come to some kind of agreement.

And that's the way we were going to. That's what we were going to say. And we're going to plead self-defense on this. Try to get Canfield at least time time the least time possible for what happened. So they all decide to do that. He said that they concocted it in the living room. Ashley had repeatedly reached out to him to discuss the plan and said it was kind of like a stick to the story type of thing every time they talked on the phone. And said it was kind of like a stick to the story type of thing every time they talked on the phone.

So finally, December of 2016, a grand jury returns an indictment charging him with first degree murder, third degree possession of a weapon for an unlawful purpose, third degree hindering apprehension or a prosecution, third degree tampering with witness and informants. And what is this third degree firing an arrow like a dipshit in your front yard, I believe. First degree perversion? First degree perversion. So during the trial here, his attorneys say that he was deathly afraid of this syringe and all this type of shit. This guy was coming at him. He's crazy. He's a crazy junkie with an HIV syringe and all this type of shit. This guy was coming at him. He's crazy. He's a crazy junkie with an HIV syringe. Anybody would have shot an arrow at him rather than just go inside the door and close it because he's 30 fucking feet away and you could just go do that.

You could go, never mind, and just go in and close the door just calmly before he could get there. Calmly. By the way, junkies aren't very fast either. They're pretty slow. Meth heads, fast. Junkies, slower. Depending on how recently he's shot up. That's true.

If he wants it, he could be a little quicker. So during this trial, a conversation between jurors was overheard discussing a piece of evidence. It was a bloody arrow that was found in Canfield's pickup truck, but didn't have human DNA on it. So the juror's conversation was about, you know, oh, was it maybe like that we don't know when that was there from. It wasn't a match to the victim.

It could have been from a squirrel months ago, all this type of shit. This is overheard and a mistrial is declared. What? They're not supposed to discuss evidence until deliberations. Oh, God. And they were overheard and a mistrial is declared what they're not supposed to discuss evidence until deliberations oh god and they were overheard in the courthouse doing this so not good assholes mistrial so during the new trial here 2019 by the way they bring an expert in on bow and arrows and it's fucking amazing they have this guy is shooting pig carcasses with a bow and arrow.

And that's his testimony of exactly how much pressure you need to put on the bow to be able to penetrate a pig, which is like a person. The answer is not a lot. I've shot those before. They are staggeringly powerful. Yeah. Well, that's they are. This one, he explained the skin, digestive tract, cardiovascular system, urinary system found in the abdomen of pigs are similar to that of humans. And that the structure and location of blood vessels is amount of energy to penetrate a human being the bow must have been drawn to either 100 or given our test results it could be argued you know very close to 100 wow every time anything anything less than that it wouldn't it wouldn't

do it um they said they went down to he testified uh test showed that the arrow penetrated the pig's carcass abdomen 16.5 inches at 100 draw 11.5 inches at 75 draw six inches at 50 draw at 25 draw the arrow created a very very lazy arc toward the carcass and the arrow stuck in the carcass and then fell harmlessly to the ground okay so he really let it go to go through it you had to go through him you had to pull it back all the way and uh do the deal timothy testifies he says i started backing away from him and at that point i backed into uh we have a ledge in our front shed and i backed into that started to lose my balance and let go of the bow string you know how that goes like we've seen that every three stooges movie.

And ended up shooting. I didn't want to hold on to the bow while I was falling down. Why not? So another witness comes forward now, another neighbor, Bertram Franks. And he testified that he heard arguing and fighting outside around 10 p.m. and then observed Canfield come outside with a bow and yell at someone. He saw Canfield aim the bow but did not see him back up or trip. So that was bullshit. He also said he saw Canfield walk back inside the house holding the bow and looking distraught.

So no verdict comes in and it's a lot of there's lesser charges and all that shit this is for knowing and purposeful murder he is not guilty he's acquitted of no knowing and purposeful murder they find him guilty of aggravated manslaughter which is a lot less and guilty of third degree possession of a weapon for an unlawful purpose and and hindering apprehension or prosecution. He was also acquitted on two counts of tampering with witnesses. Ashley was charged, I'm sorry, Tricia was charged during the first trial, too, by the way, with tampering with witnesses.

They were tried together, but before the mistrial was declared, like the day before, the judge dismissed the charges against her son of a gun. So he's found guilty. Now, the sentencing here, there's some aggravating. There's some mitigating. Talk about him being a liar and all that sort of thing. The mitigating ones are that the judge noted that the victim was trespassing on the property. But in the we'll talk about this.

The thing is, though, he was he wasn't in the house. And someone being outside when you can simply walk in the house to get away from them isn't considered you're allowed to use deadly force in that particular instance there, at least in New Jersey. at least in New Jersey. So, um, the judge ended up merging the convictions for aggravated manslaughter and possession of a weapon, uh, for an unlawful purpose for the sentence.

So you Robin hood fucking you Robin hood pervert may fuck off. Uh, he is sentenced to, uh, on the aggravated manslaughter and 18 years in prison, but subject to the no early release act. on the aggravated manslaughter and 18 years in prison. Oh boy. But subject to the No Early Release Act.

So the court also imposed three year prison terms on the hindering convictions and ordered them to be served concurrently. So at the same time with the other. So he's got to serve.

He's got to serve this. I think it's 85 percent he's got to serve of this. That's the No Early Release. 15 years? He's going to do 15. Yeah, basically.

So, um, shit, Laura, Laura Palmer there, Lauren Palmer. She said that she was happy cause now the kids like 11, his kid,

she said, cause this is 2019. This happened. She said that she's a quote. She finally got to see the man that killed her father taken away in handcuffs. That's all she wanted this whole time was to see him taken away and she was there for the verdict she's going to host a true crime podcast one of these days this kid with a story uh quickly i found also in 2019 the month after he was sentenced he and ashley together filed bankruptcy in new Oh, so they can't be wrongfully wrongful death lawsuit. I guess, yeah.

They filed that in July 24th 2019 and he was sentenced on, I believe, June 10th. So that's what happens there. Even though he's responsible, being that it's on the parents' property, you would think he'd sue her, right? Probably, yeah.

He appeals on a bunch of points. A lot of it was the failure to instruct on certain things. Could it be self-defense in there? He was under the curtilage of the house, which is the overhang. He was in the curtilage, so he could have gone inside, and that guy was not near the curtilage. They got into specific points of where this shit is on the property. Architecture phrases? Yeah.

Caretti Paulson is buried in New Jersey at the Cold Spring Presbyterian Cemetery in Cape May, New Jersey. There is got a nice headstone, too. It's got like a picture of him with doves around it and shit. It's a fucking nice. Yeah, it's really nice. He I guess his nickname or whatever was Afikazi. So Afikazi. That's even on his headstone there.

So anyway, that is Berlin, New Jersey. And you can't tell me Express episodes aren't bonkers, man. Fantastic. Holy shit. HIV needle versus bow and arrow in a winter's night showdown in the front yard in New Jersey. This is wild. I'm really mad at the jury just discussing that fact because it feels like it was presented to show that it's not that he murdered somebody else, you fucking lunatics.

It's to show that he knows how to fire this fucking thing. That's all it is. Enough to hit another mammal. We're not looking for a serial killer. Yeah. Yeah, he's going all over the county probably. Just, he can kill a mammal with this fucking thing. Right.

He's aware of what it takes to fire it to inflict harm, you fucking dipshits. Jesus Christ. So anyway, there it is. That's that. Thank you so much. Listen to the main show on Thursdays, obviously. Crime and Sports on Tuesdays. Keep coming back. Keep checking us out. Patreon.com

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