Small Town Murder - #295 - STM Express - Murder, Table For One - New Paltz, New York

Episode Date: July 2, 2022

This week, in New Paltz, New York, a lonely man, coming out of a recent depression, and having lost 150 pounds, befriends a waitress at his neighborhood diner. They bond over the fact that they've both lost loved ones, recently, and that she also just had a major weight loss. The relationship turns obsessive, but only on one side of it. Little does she know, that his growing obsession with her could lead to a dangerous situation, like possibly being murdered in one of the most horrifying ways imaginable. From there, strange jail house interviews, and odd court behavior make this whole thing a real head shaker!Along the way, we find out that Ribfest sounds amazing, that if someone tells you that they just brutally murdered someone, you should believe them, and that just because someone is serving you food, doesn't mean they actually like you!Hosted by James Pietragallo and Jimmie WhismanNew episodes every Thursday!Donate at: patreon.com/crimeinsports or go to paypal.com and use our email: [e-mail] to shutupandgivememurder.com for all things Small Town Murder & Crime In Sports!Follow us on...twitter.com/@murdersmallfacebook.com/smalltownpodinstagram.com/smalltownmurderAlso, check out James & Jimmie's other show, Crime In Sports! On Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Wondery, Wondery+, Stitcher, or wherever you listen to podcasts!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You're listening early and ad-free on Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to Small Town Murder Express. Yay and choo-choo. All aboard the murder train indeed. My name is James Pet petrigallo i'm here with my co-host i am jimmy wisman thank you folks so much for joining us today on another wild crazy adventure as you've maybe this is the 13th express that we've done so as you've maybe maybe seen by now this is packing this is 20 pounds of dynamite in a three-pound bag here so it's always crazy already this is 13 already we is 20 pounds of dynamite in a three pound bag here. So it's always crazy. This is 13 already.

We're cranking them out. I mean, we're doing this. We're putting it out. Thank you for everything. We appreciate it. Just to let you know, Patreon this week, patreon.com slash crime and sports. You're definitely going to want to do this. Anybody $5 or above gets access to all the bonus material, crime and sports bonus material,

which is our other podcast, and Small Town Murder. This week, we are going to discuss, and we're very excited about it, and you're going to, of course, get access to this. Fucking jack. We're going to talk about each of our lists of top five sports movies of all time in depth. We've taken out four that we know would be in our list, so we've stripped them down. What is it? League of their Own, Sandlot, Major League, and Bad News Bears. Because those are all movies.

All baseball? It's so cinematic. It works perfectly. But we had to take those out of the mix. They're all baseball. We will talk about those. But then we'll give our top five in depth. It's going to be a lot of fun.

And then for Small Town Murder, oh, this is going to be amazing. We are going to talk about old-timey murders from newspaper articles. This is where we've gotten terms like dry gulching and things like that from old-timey murders. And there's some weird articles that I found that I'm going to mix in from the past. Aliens and one where it's a Madison Square Garden. It's a big circus. And the ringmaster announces, here's the clown. And he doesn't come out because someone has murdered him in his dressing room in full clown regalia.

He's laying there dead. And the picture in the paper is him just laying there dead in the dressing room in his clown outfit and i laugh yes and i laugh it's from the 50s i laugh and i laugh patreon.com slash crime and sports for that and of course you'll get a shout out at the end of the regular show there yeah jimmy you'll mispronounce your name also tickets to new orleans get your tickets right now july 15th we're going to be there still some tickets left there so do that that said let's get it on jimmy it's time to sit back clear the lungs wherever you are on your treadmills and in your cars with the windows rolled up so people don't think you're a psycho having road rage. On a website getting New Orleans tickets.

Whatever you got to do and shout, shut up. Shut up and give me murder. Let's do this. Let's go, James. Let's go on a trip, shall we? All aboard. Well, let's see. It's not actually too far from whence we sit here.

Or where, not when. But it's close. It's close to us. If you go just across the river from Poughkeepsie here, you will end up in New Paltz, New York. And that is where, New Paltz, P-A-L-T-Z, New Paltz. Did we drive through here? May have.

We'll drive through when we're done. But you can go across the river. It's a college town, and it's a hardcore college town. That's all that's there. What's the college? Beyond that, New Paltz, SUNY New Paltz, which is State University of New York. I guess that makes sense. There's a shitload of SUNY schools, and that's one of them.

And it's a college town. It's bars and madness. It's not true. Everybody fights over there because it's people like college people mixed with people from the city of Poughkeepsie that are going over there that are like, you know, it's not good. It's a weird mix in the bar situation,

but a lot of people I know that's like, whew, yeah, I survived hanging out in New Paltz for years, one of those type of deals, but it's so dense through here, because it's this little tiny college town. It's so dense, so dense. And then you come to the end of this, like these couple of buildings. And then it's not like then there's a few houses. It goes from that to it goes from Main Street packed in to farmland.

Oh, right now. I'm talking right now. You pass the last building and then there's a farm next to it and then that's all you can do for miles is like mohunk mountains out that way and lake minnewaska it's got beautiful waterfalls it's pretty around there but yeah anyway uh its population is about 7100 in this town and it's that's mostly college kids also um income here median income is about 66 000 so a little higher than the national average nothing huge median home price here though is only about 180 000 so it's

oh pretty cheap to live over there and uh the college has been there forever here's a couple reviews of it very quickly um here a couple of them are kind of funny here um most of the reviews are about how about the bars like hanging out at the bars um here's five stars new pulse is a very beautiful area where the mountains scrape the sky and mornings are filled with singing birds it is a calm place to live with a bustling town filled with handmade arts the people are especially sweet don't be surprised when you get a kind hello from a stranger on the street that's probably a college kid that wants to slip something in your drink and have their sexual way with you so don't

be so that's day that could be dangerous that's a boy with a guitar and a poem in his heart yeah and this is it is idyllic and pretty and this new pulse is 70 miles from manhattan so it's not even very far at all from down there one person complained three stars it's been snowing a lot lately it's March 26th and there's still snow on the ground that's from last year it's like well yeah it's almost

there almost to Canada what do you want here's one star quote it's so cold and it's annoying so put a coat on, man. There's that. Yeah, that's interesting. Here's a one star.

I went to SUNY New Paltz back in the mid 80s. It was a vibrant artist town with great nightlife. Hippies and punks ruled the day. Best bars like Sanctuary, Thesis, Northlight. Now the town is a complete overpriced yuppie nightmare with a city it's buying millionaire houses oh god yeah it's good people do come up and buy you can commute to the city from here yeah sounds like the character from saturday night live though that oh yeah oh yeah it's those like this is a this is a bar that opened in a dumpster there's a lot of people like that like oh this is

sweet yeah these are the people who are like we we're going to do this cool comedy show. No, no, it's going to be in Phoenix in August outdoors in a parking lot, man. It's going to be awesome. There will be misters that fly before they hit your face. Totally cool, man. We're going to call it Beat the Heat. It's going to be great. Things to do.

This is fucking ridiculous. The Hudson Valley Ribfest Rockin' Barbecue. Oh. Wow. things to do this is fucking ridiculous the hudson valley rib fest rockin barbecue oh wow this sounds rockin barbecue yeah the rockin part is the part i'm gonna have to go with the earphones on the line but the rest of it this sounds pretty goddamn good uh music dance food beer okay well two out of the four because the music here is probably not going to be to my liking i don't think 50 50 on that the area's largest family friendly grilling event serving vegans vegetarians pescatarians and meat lovers i would it's the rib fest so yeah uh let's see finger licking good food in the northeast blah blah blah it's a three-day deal wow food festival a music festival and a sanctioned oh it's a three events in one and a

sanctioned barbecue contest where the winners can advance to the national finals in kansas city is there a sanctioning board this this gets you this gets you to the tourney everybody this puts you in the bracket and uh i didn't realize this was like a regional cue off i didn't know that that was yeah i didn't know we had so much time to waste in this country i didn't realize this was like a regional queue off. I didn't know that that was. Yeah, I didn't know we had so much time to waste in this country. I didn't realize we had up here, we had a regional event. A little queue off. A little queue off. So, yeah, you go to here.

What are they saying? You can be the contest features over 60 teams competing for cash and prizes and title of Grand Champion of the Hudson Valley Rib Festival. Start your Rib Fest weekend with $5 Friday. General admission for that. Take that, Somalia. That's right. We're going to gorge ourselves while terrible bands play. We have so much food, we have a fucking sanctioning board.

Okay. The VIP ticket is what you want. Yeah. Okay. the vip ticket is what you want yeah okay unlimited ribs unlimited ribs beer wine and soda god damn push whatever you can into your face and then you know roll yourself back across the bridge watch that smoky shit later wide variety of sides, desserts, private tent close to the stage with roped off outside areas. $60 per ticket for that. That seems not bad. An evening of country music starts at 5.15. Oh, Jesus.

When is this? I'm taking you. With a band called Thunder Ridge. They suck. They're terrible. Is it? I've never heard of them. I've never heard of them either.

That's all I know. Nikki Breyer will be here as well. Country rocker Nikki Breyer. Oh, my God. I don't know. Thunder Ridge will be, it says, quote, make a point to see them before they open for Keith Urban in Atlantic City the next night. Whoa. Well, then, Keith Rural is going to be there in Atlantic City.

So, anyway, do that, and you can go there. It's August, what is it, 15th, 16th, 17th? 16th and 17th. So yeah, it sounds good. It's coming up. I'm taking you. Hands over my ears, and I'm going. I'm going to drag you.

Let's do it. I want the ribs, Dan, but I love ribs. I do too. I want ribs and beer. Let's do it. Let's go get sloshing shit-faced and have barbecue sauce all over our faces. You want to? Puke on somebody's boots.

You want to do it? Yes. We're doing it. Damn it. This is going to be fun. I can't wait. I'm excited. All right.

That said, let's talk about a murder that has nothing to do with ribs. Okay. Let's do this. Let's go back in time to 1997. Okay? Yeah. 1997 and talk about a young lady who is 28 years old at this point in time. And I got to tell you, man, when you've some people just have a bum run of it in life. You know what I mean? Where you look at them and you go, Jesus Christ, none of that was avoidable, was it? That is terrible. It's just all bad luck. You know what I mean? Where you just go, fuck. Some people you're like, well, yeah, that's because you've been smoking crack for the last five years. All these things are things that come off of that.

They're all consequences. You had all your money in Beanie Babies. Yeah, obviously this is a problem. But some people you look and you go, that happened. Oh, Jesus. Wow. I hope that's terrible. That could happen to anybody.

Oh, that. Oh, geez. Wow. Oh, my goodness. It's a lot. That's that's this woman, Darlene Louise Bauer. Darlene. She's 28 years old. Like I said, she's a Christmas Eve. I'm sorry. New Year's Eve, baby. December 31st, 1968 is her birthday so um she has had a different type of 20s than most people have had uh she is she's basically uh she's had first of all the last year has been terrible because she's had a young a baby who was one years old who was diagnosed with brain cancer oh no which obviously that's you you know. Devastating.

The universe is out to get you there. There's just nothing to do with that. So baby diagnosed with brain cancer. So she is, you know, trying to take care of this baby. She has to take this poor child out of state to go to, you know, Houston for special treatments that only happen in one hospital. And it's a lot, man.

It's a lot. And it's tough.. It's a lot, man. It's a lot. And it's tough. She's a single mom. She doesn't go out. She doesn't go out with friends. She doesn't go hang out. She doesn't spend money on clothes. She doesn't do any of this shit.

She's just taking care of this baby. Brain cancer? Brain cancer in a baby. Jesus. It's fucking horrible. So, yeah, she was working uh 10 hour shifts as a waitress and we'll talk about that and trying to pay off there's all these hospital bills that she's got to pay off now because of this it's it's horrible and she's either working

as a waitress at this point or being in a hospital she's in hospitals and or diners being a waitress that's her her whole life which sounds not fun that's a tough life that's a tough life for someone who's not 30 yet you know what i mean like not all smiles to be had and you you should be enjoying it's like a pinnacle of your life it's oh my god it's fucking horrible so in late 1996 because this is when this was all going down with her son here uh in late 1996 the doctor told her that there's nothing more they could do for the baby. And, yeah. It's over. And they said maybe he has a couple more months.

Maybe he'll find it and he'll be a miracle. They wanted to get to Christmas, at least. That was because this was like in September they said that. He celebrates his first birthday in the beginning of December. september they said that um he celebrates his first birthday in the beginning of december and then um i mean she would she was going in december she'd have all this shit have to pack the baby up and all the medicine and imagine going through tsa with all this type of shit have to go to houston yeah it's crazy and then uh december 22nd 1996 the baby died from the cancer which was obviously terrible um she uh she's she's such a

nice lady though she took she had five thousand dollars worth of medicine that yeah for the baby that was unused so she actually found another sick child in orange county through whatever i don't know how in 97 you would put that together, but she, I guess you'd look through the newspaper for that. I don't know. There's probably some sort of support group. I'm sure for parents of cancer that you would probably say, Hey, or something. Yeah. Yeah. You go to them and say, Hey, if there's anybody who's having financial troubles and has a baby that takes this, I have it, or I don't know. I don't know how you would do that, but she did. She gave $5,000 to some family who I'm sure that was very helpful to them uh in in medicine and then she went back to her waitressing job after that and uh went right back to it um at the plaza

diner and we'll talk about that in a second here and um everybody says she's insanely friendly she's the the sweetest person they have there. She's very blonde, by the way, like noticeably blonde, where you'd be like, oh, that's that blonde lady. You know what I mean? It's the first thing you see. The Plaza Diner, and I'll read you some more about it later, but it's got not great reviews on Yelp. It's not good at this point in time. Now, this happened in 97, obviously. In the last 20 yelp it's not good uh at this point in time now this happened in 97 obviously but in the last 20 years it's certainly fallen apart well here's a one review

i'll give you here uh from this diner from a current day it's a one star on yelp sad sad diner that's how it starts out which is not good well i mean the employees children are dying at one year old so yeah i would say it was 25 years ago. I don't know if they're still sad about it. But, you know, we went here with my boyfriend. We love diner food in parentheses. Well, who doesn't? Who doesn't want those French fries?

And found multiple hairs in my food. Told the waitress and she gave me a five percent discount five that come on you might as well cover the tax for you then instead of five percent discount you might as well go there's hairs in it pick it up and then spit in it and put it back down in front of them there you go now there's hair and spit you might as well do that five percent isn't helping thanks there you go five percent i don't know if it's the waitress's fault or the manager said you know five percent because they're all greek guys that run all the diners here i know for a fact it's just every diner i've ever been to here it's an angry greek man and then you go like five times

and then they love you the one we go to the the you know the one I'm talking about there. I walk in, the guy goes, hello, shakes my hand. Come over here. They treat us like we're a returning family because we go once a month. And they're like, oh, come over here. You're not 100 years old. Please. You're a customer that's not going to die soon. I can't wait to feed you my hair.

Oh, we have so much hair. You should see New Cook. So hairy. Oh, my God. hair oh we have so much hair you should see new cook so hairy oh my god he wears hair net but not on shoulder come out of neck of shirts look like mullet but not mullet you know good stuff good stuff he's very good spiro you're going to like him and don't say that's offensive fuck you i'm italian i can make fun of greeks all i want with your fetish i'm that hairy with your feta cheese and your fucking whatever the fuck no anyway so uh five percent discount because i ate some of it so i quote can't get a refund. She ate up to the hair.

So you can't give your refund. You ate some of that. I was going to resell it to someone else with the hair in it. But now that you ate it, what am I supposed to do? Give it to somebody else? Now you're full and now you have a complaint. Now you're full? Now that you've had enough hair that you're satisfied, now you want to give it back?

I can't get a refund. And they hinted at me being the one who planted the hairs. Okay. They were gray hairs, and my boyfriend and I are both 20 years old with no gray hairs on our heads because we're 20. This is crazy. We didn't do this. It's Spiro. Where is he?

But the head chef had salt and pepper beard. Of course he did. It's Spiro chef had salt and pepper beard of course he did it's spiro with the salt and pepper beard that's what it says here i'm so grossed out i can't even go back there sad face sad because i used to love this diner a couple years ago so there you go um i don't even know what to say about that that's that is awesome they didn't even get to whether the food was good or not because it doesn't matter because there was a hair in it. If there's hair in the food, I don't care what kind of food it is. You don't go, besides the hair, it was delicious. Is it Darlene?

Is that her name? It's Darlene. Darlene, yes. Yeah, and this is where she works. This is where she works, the Plaza Diner in 97. So this, yeah, she works here. in 97 um so this uh yeah she works here and to talk to one of the waitresses this is the waitress who uh we'll talk about this server named valerie she left the diner and basically gave her shift to darlene okay so this is the woman who worked here before darlene and um she talks about how

there's a lot of what i me personally when we go to diners because there's a lot of diners in the northeast and me and Sarah we love going to diners because we just love the diner food so we try to look at them and find different ones and anyway uh there's ones like people there I call the stray dogs of the diners these are people that obviously eat there like three four times a week um they're lonely people it's it's the same people every time you know it's the same guy it's you know what they look like it's the same guy i'm not talking about the elderly guys because there's the elderly guys that come too and that's a different thing like that they come in and they're like hey how you

doing a couple another elderly guy comes in and they'll talk and shit and that's a different story i'm talking about the 46 year old guy there for the 38 year old guy who comes in and doesn't this is the other thing too he doesn't order a burger he doesn't order some you know buffalo chicken strips he orders pot roast he orders like the shit on like the you know exactly what i'm talking about right home cooked yeah he orders like i'll have the turkey dinner with the stuffing and the cranberry sauce and it's fucking it's april you know what i'm saying like he's that wednesday in april yeah he's that guy i just want to feel something warm there's a lot of that guy in there where whenever we're in there there's at least two of them and we're like that guy's there all the time

he's got a usual she because i one guy i remember ordered a pot roast dinner and she said you want the same as you usually like it and he goes yeah with that and so that meant like replace this with that or whatever and yep the server knew that and i'm like yeah this guy comes in all the time and i'm looking at meatloaf and green beans here oh god he's had meatloaf he's had obviously the pot roast he's had chicken a la king or some other like 50s creation that no one's seen on the menu in 40 years nobody orders there's a something on the menu called a boxcar willy on on the one diner i'm like i don't want a boxcar will i don't want anything that could be made in a boxcar that sounds i don't want hobo food that i'm paying full price for in the 21st century. I want something cooked on a hot plate.

Yeah. Just make me something in a pan. Something cooked over on an overturned shopping cart. Get the fuck out of here. I want pan-fried food here. Oven-cooked food. I'm here for sustenance. Make it.

Make it. So I like to call these people the stray dogs, and Valerie talks about the stray dogs. And she says, quote, oh, yeah, happens all the time. She says the men attach themselves to you, the servers, because they see them so often. And the servers and diners are friendly, a lot of them. You know what I mean? It's their job. They call you darling. I mean, they still do that today.

It's weird. It's just a weird diner thing. So she says that they attach themselves to you they come just to see you uh the they want uh you in front of them all the time so they want they want to sit oh let me sit in her section because you know she knows how i like my pot roast right but also i'm in love with her and i think about her at night probably i've also tugged her yeah so unbeknownst to her, we've had many conversations. She's blown me so many times.

I found hairs, but I kept them. I'm trying to, I feel like if I have enough, I can save enough to extract her DNA and somehow. You can weave them into a cum catcher. That's what I'm going to do. That or I'm going to sew them as pubes onto my real sex doll. Either one. I'm not sure yet. I'm not sure yet.

I feel like when I have enough of that rubbing up against me could be enough to really make this something. Either way, decide when I have enough. So she said that a lot of times like these guys will like be in the parking lot when they get off work. And, you you know he said she says usually these are harmless guys usually they're just they're nice guys and they're very lonely and they're kind of meek and they're not real you know they're not the alpha type here we're talking not that that's not that that's a great thing either we're just saying like they're they're not guys who are going out really looking for the chicks and like i'm gonna find me a

girlfriend or something like these are guys who wait for the girl to come to them. And it never happens. They have this underlying hope and prayer that that this serendipitous meeting is going to wholesomely turn into a relationship. And they can tell them, oh, she used to wait on me years ago. And it stews in their brains. Yeah. Every time they bring a pot roast and smile and there's a certain thing to that too that's a weird yeah you know seems romantic to them but what it is is she wants to pay her rent and on a mammal level too

it's just the same person bringing you food all the time i think like you're weird like you know familiar reptile or mammal fucking brain kicks into and you're like oh that means that we're gonna reproduce together and live in the in our in the in the den in the cave or whatever the fuck i don't know what the hell animals do domicile we're in whatever deer do you know what i mean i don't know wherever they live and reproduce so um anyway he he basically or she she's – this happens all the time. So this Valerie, she handed her shift over to her friend Darlene who she – Valerie quit to go back to school. And Darlene needed the job and it's a decent shift. So she took over the shift and Valerie had worked there for 12 years.

So, I mean, it's the same deal here. 12 years so i mean it's the same deal here she said that uh basically it's it sucks because and especially back then waiting tables you made what was it 270 an hour i believe because i did it so much more now it's not no it's you're allowed to pay server you're allowed to pay people with tips under minimum wage so they these servers really depend on decent tips yeah to make their money and as a lot of times in a diner when they come in you know their bill is somebody comes in and their bill's gonna be like 16 or something so i mean what's 20 of 16 oh gee wow three dollars some people just have a coffee and spend two dollars yeah you're gonna tip a quarter so that's why charm and and that sort of thing comes into play as well.

Instead of leaving $3, I'll just leave a five because that's Valerie, and she's real nice to me all the time and knows how I like my pot roast potatoes. And what's $2? Yeah, she knows I want the stuffing instead of the green beans. You know what I mean? She knows to tell Spiro to switch them out because he normally won't do that shit. That's all I'm saying. So they said a lot

of it and depends on she talks about how nice you are and a lot of the regulars that's really your bread and butter because those are the people you you can kind of count on a certain amount of money from every week so they got to be really nice to them and she said a lot of them are men singles kind of sad guys who come there they tell them their their fucking tail tales of life woes and they they make the little innuendos they said it's never like overt but it's always like a little like a little wink and like you know to see if you'll if you think that's funny and you'll play along and shit like that and you know all that sort of thing so they said that uh she said that it was felt weird that they would do that but she

said that it's kind of a the way it is she said the worst part is if you were working at the counter because all these diners have that old-fashioned counter she said there's nowhere to hide otherwise you're waiting tables you go to another table you go in the kitchen for a minute but if you're at the counter you're just standing there waiting to pour people coffee and stuff so not a lot you can do she's like that's kind of she said it feels like you're on display she said quote the counter is the worst it's the gathering place for lonely men they don't come for the food they want you to serve them sympathy friendship and attention i didn't realize how much waitressing parallels strip club i was it's like a stripper or these are these are these are guys that go find like

a woman on this on the street. You know what I'm saying? And they're like, you want a date? And they're like, you know, they'll pay him the same amount just to talk to him for an hour. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the these are the type of guys we're talking about here. Like, you know, I'll pay extra to talk to me and then blow me. You know, I want to let's like I want it to be like a date.

Like, that's the I need the companionship. That's that's what it is. But they come to a diner. They found a way cheaper way to go do this than a strip club here. And that's what I feel like a lot of these guys are feeling. And they get dinner. So, I mean, in a strip club, you're not going to get dinner for the most part. And you don't want to.

You're not going to get a DUI. You don't want the dinner from a strip club. You want to talk about hairs and your food. No. Yikes. So, they said a lot of times, though, someone will attach themselves. They'll stop in three, four times. Sometimes they'll come in multiple times a day.

They'll come into breakfast and they'll come in after work for dinner. Like, you know, you see these people all the time. Valerie here said, quote, it's a twisted form of love. They want to be acknowledged because no one on the street acknowledges them. Quote, it's a twisted form of love. They want to be acknowledged because no one on the street acknowledges them. And she said, unless somebody becomes really over the top, obnoxious or grabbing them or something like that, there's really nothing anybody can do about it because they're a regular customer. So the diner wants them there.

You want the tips and everybody kind of puts up with it, which is kind of gross. She said, it's creepy. I felt pressured to be nice to men. I really didn't want to be nice to. And she said, they try to get you to feel sorry for them. They want you to feel responsible for their ego. I mean, that might be asking a little bit much out of a waitress. If I go to a diner.

You feed me pot roast and tell me I'm the greatest man you've ever met. I don't need all that. If I go to a a diner i'd like you to respect that i don't want mayonnaise on anything and bring it in a semi i'm not in any hurry so i mean i'm you know i've sat down yeah you can you can even get their shit first to whoever's over in that table i'm fine i'm not asking for a lot here just no mayo no hair would be good off the bun yeah that's all it's it's all i'm asking for so i'm not that's what i want on it don't need you to stroke my ego i don't need you to tell me i'm handsome i don't need you to laugh at my jokes just right you know uh minimal i expect from people

that is a crazy exchange a little bit of minimal money yeah be fed and be told you're amazing that's what i mean what is this they feel like they found the loophole yeah they're like i mean yeah i don't see no titties but i go home and watch porn so fuck it this is a ridiculous exchange it's so strange so i always thought diners were you're drunk nothing else is open come in here that's more or less what it feels like to me i don't think i've eaten at a diner more than five times with the sun up only with us yeah only with us only with you and it's when we go on like a road trip go get weed or whatever yeah or just stop stop there or yeah we've just gone out during the day yeah look there's a diner yeah let's stop at that diner so i mean that's that's it and uh so anyway valerie talks

about how there's a guy who gave her gifts including like the expensive jewelry but then would be afraid to like ask her out um you know and all this another guy she said like older guys will bring in pictures of them younger like look at me look at me when i was your age isn't that great like no you'd have fucked me then right that's still the same guy i swear one guy she said quote he was no more attractive at 20 than he was at 55 she think is fucking great so that's wrinkles yeah it's the slow burn of you know i'm gonna kind of like a weird this is like movies have kind of put this in like if you just hang around long enough eventually they'll see something in you and go you know what damn it this person i've been looking at all the wrong places it's been

right before me the whole time eating pot roast and i didn't see it sizing the friend zone but meanwhile this is the friend zone not even the friend zone because yeah it's a business right i have to be nice to you because that's how fucking food service works absolutely that's all there is to it i understand that anybody who's paid attention to the media would have to come to the conclusion that i killed my wife hi my name is zach stewart pontier i'm one of the filmmakers behind the jinx and i'm excited to bring you The Official Jinx Podcast. We'll be revisiting all six episodes of Part 1 and watching along with Part 2 as it airs on Max, starting April 21st.

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The stories we cover are well-researched. He claimed and confessed to officially killing up to 28 people. With a touch of humor. I'd just like to go ahead and say that if there's no band called Malevolent Deity, that is pretty great. A dash of sarcasm and just garnished a bit with a little bit of cursing. This mother f***er lied. Like a liar.

Like a liar. And if you're a weirdo like us and love to cozy up to a creepy tale of the paranormal. Or you love to hop in the Wayback Machine and dissect the details of some of history's most notorious crimes. You should tune in to our podcast, Morbid. Follow Morbid on the Wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts. So anyway, enter Darlene into that. Because all of what I just said about Valerie is exactly Darlene. But I'm just saying this Valerie woman, probably like, why are we talking about this Valerie woman? Because that's the exact same shift that Darlene takes over. So this is what Darlene is dealing with through all of this. Meanwhile, Darlene has a brand new baby that just died.

And she has to cope with that mixed with fucking catering to egos. Christ, the poor lady. three days before christmas a little more than a week before her birthday she gets to uh bury her baby so that's nice um unbelievable her friend said that she was valerie even said she's a was a religious person and felt very much empathy for everybody and she was one of these like real nice like christian people that were just like you know the non-judgmental ones that are just uh want to help people and shit yeah like a hippie christian i always called them like the ones jesus wanted you to be the christians who would protest against the vietnam war because they said it wasn't christian like

shit like that those people so yeah um she said that uh um she wanted to help them valerie said darlene would listen to a sob story longer than anyone so she said she was the one yeah so these guys would especially glom on to her because she was receptive to it just because she's a sweet person that's all it was and she's and she deals with loss every day and she's dealt with loss exactly so if someone's sad you're sad that's a connection people make so now we enter into the picture here barry weingartner yeah barry weingartner is 43 years old and he is an unemployed security guard yeah oh that's a that's used to be a security guard yes in other words he's unemployed is what that means just you could stop there you don't even have to have security guard his one reason or another he has money to spend at a diner he

well his father recently died so he is living off of an inheritance small inheritance from his father at this point he's gathering his life back together trying to trying to get it together he is a self-described obsessive compulsive eater he says um like he would gorge himself on things he got himself all the way up to 350 pounds at one point and he's not a tall guy he's not like he's six foot seven or anything he's not shack who just needs to drop 20 he's a small guy who put on it was about 150 pounds more than you know he normally is to begin with not that whatever so he just put that on extra in eating he's a regular at the plaza diner he eats there at least once a day uh always and always sits with in darlene's section and wants to hang out with her uh he he had been his sick father's sole caregiver for years

apparently so his father was living with him he was taking care of his dad taking him to doctor's appointments his father finally died now he's living off the inheritance he said he was you know yeah so i've been working and taking care of a sick parent for years yeah it's time to relax for a little while do you think some of this packing in and obsessive compulsive eating is part of his depression of losing his father? I think it is. And he's also on a very – he's on a cocktail of antidepressants and anti-anxieties, which is also a thing that kind of throws things off as well. So he lives in like this – it's an apartment, but it's looks like a motel. It's like an L shaped deal with the doors that come right to the parking.

You know, when you pull up like a, like a motel that you see on the side of the road. Yeah. But they've turned it into flat. Yeah. They've turned it into apartments now. That's all it is. You can't rent them by the, by the night now. So he lives there.

So at least once a day though,'d either walk or he'd drive there to go to the diner and uh he'd try to be there between lunch and dinner so that way there was more time to talk to the waitresses yeah that was his strategy he would always eat shrimp cocktail and pizza burgers what a weird combination that is um if you've ever seen a diner pizza burger it looks there's no way to eat it. You have to knife and fork that shit. It's a mess. What is that?

They put like cheese and sauce and shit on top of it. And so it's just a pile of there's no way to pick it up. It's been Jesus. It's like a hot open hamburger pizza. It's fucking weird. Pizza hamburger. Yeah, it's not. It's I don't recommend that.

I've seen it. I've never had it. So what you're saying is he's not making an effort to lose weight not at all no that's what i mean but he actually does though here and we'll talk about that he said quote one day i was sitting at my usual table sort of by the door these guys all have a usual table yeah when when darlene was cleaning a booth behind me and he smelled her perfume and he looked back he said quote i look back and said darlene uh is that opium and she said that's the only one i could wear so he picked her perfume out cleaning a booth behind her which sounds creepy very creepy he said he saw she wasn't wearing a wedding ring at all um so he invited her to sit down. Maybe she's game to talk.

So she sat down and talked to him. Yeah. So he apparently was, they've both been coming out of a depressive shell is what it is. Both of these people. She recently lost 80 pounds. Really? Yeah. She's lost 80 pounds recently.

That's awesome. I assume from the grief and terror of taking your son. You know what I mean? Like you'll shed some weight. I don't care what your weight is. You're going to lose a few pounds if you're hauling your baby around. If she made an active attempt to lose anything, it also was coupled with the lack of appetite. Yeah.

She's had it horrible, you know? I can imagine. So she's lost that, but she also bought a little tiny house. She saved up her money for a down payment, bought a little house, a white house with green trim, five-minute drive from her mom's house. So, yeah, her mom says, quote, Darlene was a saver always. She saved every dime and made that down payment with cash.

She had it. My daughter always told me, hey, mom, I hustle for that money. I work hard for that money. You know how many losers I have to talk to for that fucking money? So anyway, like I said, she dropped 80 pounds. And the mother said, too, she would help because she was trying to fix up her house because it wasn't a perfect house. She had to save up for it. So she said she'd go over there and help one day carpet installers were coming and you know so she would do that her mom planted in a bunch of nice uh

plants flowers along the driveway as a surprise for so she's getting settled in and trying to start her life over again after this horrible fucking tragedy so she told him she's lost 80 pounds since her son's death. And he said that he's only 175 now, but he used to weigh between 320 and 350. Awesome. Yeah, they've both recently lost weight and had deaths and are coming out of depressions where they lost all this weight. So they have, you know what I'm saying?

They have a connection there. He says, quote, do you know what it's like to have obsessions that become the very core of your being? That's what he said. That's a vague answer. It could be creepy or it could be very kind. And then he said, we are so good for each other, yet everything we have that's good is also bad for us to be together, is what he said.

Which, I don't know what he's talking about, because they're not together. They're friends, and she'll be friends with them. She'll even go places with them. One day in August of 1997, they went on a one-day trip to Long Island together. No kidding. Not romantic. There's no romance here. That's the other thing here. But they flew out of— It was a day trip to Long Island together. No kidding. Not romantic. There's no romance here. That's the other thing here.

But they flew out of... It's a day trip, a sightseeing. Yeah, they flew out of Stewart and Newburgh there, which is right there across the river, and they landed in Long Island. And he says, quote, we had a wonderful day about the whole thing, and they had a nice day.

No romance here. Like I said, they're not together, and they're not in love or anything like that but they said they shared he said they shared an obsession with food and that was their both of their compulsive behavior that led to eating disorders of eating this food and gorging and shit like that so he said that he preferred to binge and then swallow laxatives afterwards that was oh my god that was his game and uh he says she would starve herself as opposed to that to lose weight so that was their two the way they

would approach it um but yeah she that's so they had that in common they went to long island there they went to hertz rent a car where uh she paid for a ford contour with her visa and because he paid for the plane tickets so it was just hey we'll go hang out they drove to a macy's where he paid for some opium perfume for her i was got you some new perfume yeah why'd they go all the way to goddamn long island for a fucking macy's in 1997 there's like in poughkeepsie there's i know there's the galleria the south hills mall still open over here there's a shit in poughkeepsie there There's stuff across the river. Where are you going? There's plenty there. Where are you going? All the way to Long Island. Long Island.

They stopped at diners for coffee a couple times. That's their deal there. He loves to drink coffee and he chain smokes too also here. He says also sleep deprivation. What a wonderful way to keep the weight off is another way. Jesus. Not really.

Barry, no. So in September here, the week before September 18th here, so in that area of 1997, he decided that he didn't want to become dependent on the cocktail of drugs that has been prescribed to him by a doctor. So he's going to stop taking them right now this is zoloft and paxil he's taken yeah those are two heavy ones together yeah there's so he needs something obviously and all of these drugs from what i understand say don't stop taking them all at once every drug like that says never do that you got to wean yourself off and if a doctor prescribes you two heavy ones yeah and and you take maybe one of them but not the other maybe discuss that

with them yeah get off of both he just self-prescribed cold turkey that shit cold turkey both of them so that's what ended up happening so uh one night here, it's September 18th. He, he asked her to stop by his apartment at the end of her shift. Hey, stop by and say hi and whatever. And she said, yeah,

sure. You know, she's got nothing better to do with this after a shift, I guess. So, and it's close by. So what the hell stop by, maybe he needs help or something.

So I guess he'd been around the house. One of his curtains fell. So he was trying to hammer up some push pins in there and he was having a hard time or whatever so either way she came over um they're hanging out i guess it's a small place i guess that's like a motel room basically this apartment here she's sitting at his table just you know sitting here they're talking and whatever and he's trying to get this damn curtain back up and i guess so uh he takes the uh the hammer which is a regular hammer look like a claw on the back and a hammer part on the front and he bashes her in the head with it bashes her in the head with it out of nowhere nowhere um

she fell to the over to the bed where they're struggling because she wasn't unconscious or anything. So he continued to beat her over the head with the hammer. Oh, my, Barry. He spent the next 40 minutes beating her with a hammer. 40 minutes? 40 minutes. He stopped a couple of times, though. One time he stopped in the middle of it in order to quote join her in saying the lord's

prayer what because he was beating her she's probably praying to die or she's praying you know though whatever people say before they die i'm not religious but i know that people have a thing that they say if they're whatever so the last rights yeah she's he says he stopped just to lay lie down with her and say the lord's prayer with her then went back to bashing her in the head with a fucking hammer the second time he said i stopped again to pray with her i was bashing her with this hammer and i said i'll give her you know let's have a pray break while i do this and he said that time she wasn't able to form words anymore because she's been beating her with a hammer for a fucking 20 minutes he said i put my hand over her mouth and nose because i thought

she was dead and then she flinched sort of moved her head and she coughed so he said kept beating her unbelievable hit her more than 50 times over 40 minutes in the head with a hammer until he finally killed her that's a crazy what a fucking piece of shit that's the slowest beating on earth it's horrible is he how weak is this fucking guy he can't like not to be like whatever but right i mean jesus christ don't you can't if you're gonna fucking kill somebody put him out of their goddamn misery you don't go up to a fucking a deer and and you know shoot him in the legs and then come over and like to shoot him in the kneecaps yeah you know it's not what you do you try to right get one shot him you know from what i understand so you try to through through the lung or night or heart it's fucking crazy man um so he said quote i wanted

to join her that night in death i don't feel guilty this is what he said afterwards i don't feel guilty she was totally surprised she did not walk in that door like she was somebody who knew that she was going to die. Yeah, because she didn't. Why the fuck would you? Why would you think that? She thought you were a nice person. She went on a trip with you and you didn't do anything to her. So that's trust trusting at that point.

He said, quote, I told her she was going to be with her son. You comforting motherfucker. God, I hate this son you comforting motherfucker god i hate this asshole i really really hate this asshole um he told uh wow he then called his brother in rochester and told him what he did hey what's up bro yeah i just beat this waitress that i have been kind of stalking kind of beat her to death with a hammer. The brother didn't believe him, so he held the phone close to her and hit her more. With the phone? No, no, with the hammer.

He held the phone close and kept hitting her with the hammer and said, see, hear that? Unreal. It's fucking disgusting. So his brother hung up and called the police on him because fuck Jesus Christ. So this asshole here, Wine Gardener, he gets into his car and lights a smoke and drives over to the diner. Drives to the diner.

Her diner? Gonna get me some pot roast. You know how I like it. Replace the beans with fucking stuffing. So he goes to the diner and walks in covered in fucking blood you know how much blood is on you after beating someone with um walks in there everybody goes what the fuck and he tells them what he just did i just beat darlene to death with a hammer so they all freak out and scream call 9-1-1 call 9-1-1 holy shit they all call 9- nine one one so he just shrugs his shoulders and

goes back and gets in his car and drives home uh nope he didn't have anything that night it's weird didn't know what he was wanted he didn't even hear the specials nothing he drives home where the police are literally just sitting outside his front door waiting for him to come home hey what's up chief covered in blood there that blood there. That's not good. So they arrest him, obviously, for this. He immediately does an interview in jail. All the interviews he can do. With, like, newspapers and such? With the AP, an Associated Press.

He does a full-on interview for everybody to pick up here. This is within two weeks of the murder he does this. His lawyer strongly advised him not to do press interviews. Please don't talk. He ignored them and, quote, invited a string of reporters into the cinder block jail to recount what happened that night. Holy shit. He, the newspaper said, quote, this is, I think, the Poughkeepsie Journal. He offered details of the bloody murder like a carnival barker hinting at tawdry delights.

He did. He acted and he did this with the police, too. He admitted everything, but he was real smug about it and would laugh from time to time. Like, you really? There's really stuff for me you guys want, huh? Isn't that funny? Like, that kind of shit. Like, it was a power play that he.

funny like that kind of shit like it was a power play that he yeah if you've ever seen if you look it up israel keys the serial killer who's one of the worst people i've ever we'll do a bonus about him because he is fucking reprehensible but there's like six hours of his fbi interviews on youtube and he never says shit because he's always just he's playing a game with them going back and forth about well you guys said you wouldn't tell the press this and you know the press said said that so now i'm not going to tell you stuff and every time he says something he goes he does that these things that aren't really jokes and no one else is laughing and he's going and you're like this motherfucker is sick that's that's what he acts like here like hey you guys really want something he thinks it's funny it's fucking gross um he said that um jesus christ he said that uh

they do say that his confessions in the media match details that he gave the cops and actually have more details he gives the media as well. He refers to the murder as, quote, the event when he speaks to reporters. The event. He says, quote, this is what he says to a line of reporters, quote, it took her almost 40 minutes to die. The event had to take place because one way to address compulsion is to eliminate them. That's the only way I could eliminate Darlene's hold on me. My obsession was to destroy her what the fuck or go to it from that statement yeah or go to a different diner for fuck's sake jesus it's not like she's a different doctor something's wrong with you yeah

doctor definitely but if you're obsessed with the waitress and you can't get over it go somewhere else that gets over you don't have to kill her because you don't want to fucking be obsessed with her so uh statement and he was bragging that you know look at me i look great i used to weigh 300 something pounds he's telling all these people here all it's fucking wild his lawyer said that um he he doesn't understand why he's doing this all of everything he says can be used as evidence by the court obviously by the prosecutors and he said that his client is quote in a fragile mental state it doesn't sound fragile at all it sounds like an asshole period certainly he's certainly nuts there's certainly something wrong but that doesn't mean he's innocent is that a is that a defense of what he's doing

he's he his only defense is asshole you can't plead asshole that's not a you of what he's doing? His only defense is asshole. You can't plead asshole. Yeah, no, you can't. That's synonymous with guilty when you plead asshole. Yeah. So, yeah, he said, though, that he doesn't care what happens to him in court because he says he expects to spend the rest of his life behind bars. And he doesn't give a shit because later on when he says what he says to the judge is wild as well here poor fucking jesus jan uh jan is is darlene's mother and she says i loved being a grandmother now i'll never have another grandchild i don't have a kid of my own darlene is an only child by the way it's her only daughter um i don't have anything she says this poor fucking woman

jesus christ um It is crazy. His Weingartner's attorney describes him as, quote, the most difficult client I've had in 23 years. He says his behavior is detrimental to his defense. He says, quote, I don't think he's listened to one thing I've told him in this case, which is never good. He is charged with second degree murder. Maximum punishment is life in prison without parole here. So he pleads guilty because, I mean, he couldn't admit it more. So he pleads guilty in exchange for a guilty plea that the life without is taken off the table. What?

And now the most he could get is 25 years to life at this point that's part of the plea deal all right so during sentencing uh he came in with he shaved his beard and his hair and all this shit because he had a beard and all this in jail so to come in he said that um he told the court that he just couldn't relate to the sorrow that darlene's family has endured he said i don't know i don't know anything about that he said that he killed couldn't relate to the sorrow that Darlene's family has endured. He said, I don't know. I don't know anything about that. He said that he killed Darlene because he was obsessed with her. And he said, quote, the reason I killed Darlene Bauer was to put an end to my obsession with her.

He said this in open court to the judge to get a lesser sentence. He said, but the death doesn't do anything. I'm still obsessed with her. Then he said, quote, I want to be in heaven with her. Oh, my God. To a certain extent, I do believe I am sick in some form. Every extent. And the understatement of the year goes to this asshole.

Jesus Christ. He was found mentally competent to stand trial. He's not legally insane, but he says, quote, I do have an obsessive compulsive disorder. And then he asked the court for help. Maybe maybe the court can get me some help with my obsessions. Like, fine. In prison, you can have all the help you want. Yeah.

We have to treat you because otherwise, if we just leave you to rot and then your sentence expires, then what? Well, yeah. A lot of trouble. And good luck with the prison food. You're not going to be obsessed with that. We promise. So you won't be you won't be gorging anymore. Nope.

Darlene's family here. They get to speak during sentencing. And her mother says, I can't begin to tell you what what has happened to my life since the Kingston County police or Kingston City police came to my house that night. The anger overwhelms me when I think of how I will get through another day without my Darlene. I visit her grave and weep wondering why this animal took such a precious gift for me. I'm tormented by the thoughts of what Darlene endured at the hands of this

sick person. Jesus Christ. Um, and the sister, her, uh, or what is it? Her,

not her, our half sister. She's got a half sister that's one of them married whatever she says he could have sought help when he knew he needed it not you know after he killed somebody obviously um the mother here jan she left the courtroom before weingartner spoke saying i don't want to hear anything he has to say. Fair enough. They also said the family said how he has a complete lack of remorse and he attempts to torment the family even after the death. They spoke that they had to have a closed casket because she was so mutilated. And they said, quote, she was beaten so severely that I was not able to see her beautiful face to say goodbye. I could not touch her or hold her or even kiss her goodbye.

I will never have closure. Yeah, that's terrible. Her half-sister said, you took my best friend and my confidant. And she then said to the judge, quote, I implore you, don't give this sick and sadistic animal a chance to do this again. Yeah, OK. The Ulster County Assistant District Attorney said this defendant shows no remorse. He bragged to police that he was a good liar. He told police that he enjoyed the power he had over them because he had something they wanted.

And he's enjoyed this notoriety, which he has. He got every press person he could find he invited to the prison, anybody that would come to the jail. So his lawyer, I mean mean imagine being his fucking lawyer like that's got to be a nightmare it's the worst already with this fucking lawyer um he argued that you know he should get a lesser sentence because he doesn't have any previous criminal record well i mean that's that's all you can say your first one's a biggie so it doesn't really matter at that point i don't give a shit what the fuck you've done in the past i don't care what you are that's enough right there i think kill the lady with a hammer we're good i think jokar zarniev uh his first crime was planting bombs at the boston marathon you know what i'm

saying yeah sometimes it's a big deal it It's enough for me. That's enough. So the judge says, okay, that's all fine and all. You, sir, may fuck off 24 years to life, he gives him. What's the point of that? The judge said that he was sorry that nothing he could do would lessen the pain of the family, and the fact that the sentence was just short of the maximum, he said, quote, does not indicate that I think he should ever be released from prison. The opposite is true. I think Mr. Weingartner should spend the rest of his life behind bars.

So I'm going to tease him with 24. So I don't understand that. So, by the way, that would put him up for parole last year, 24 years to life. So right about. Yeah. So anyway, he is that that day usually it takes a while you have they have to find where they're going to send you and then they send you to prison and whatever he is such a pain in the ass in the jail that very day he is sent to prison really do you

don't want a second longer with him no the public defender said quote this is the quickest anyone has ever been sent to downstate that he's ever seen he's in the downstate correctional facility in fishkill which is down there i think we've driven past that um he said that uh usually it's 10 to 14 days after sentencing like there's a lot of paperwork right now he said 14 business days would be considered quick this was same day that's crazy he said he's had clients waiting in jail for a month or longer before going to state prisons what they do overnight him they pack him in a fedex box or something same date him are you kidding me they didn't even overnight him same day he went from wearing a fucking tie in court to wearing whatever the literal prison like it was he showed up with

his court clothes on that doesn't happen drone drop him how did they do that i think they did they really do so the district attorney said that weingartner is obviously a difficult inmate and a state prison would be a more appropriate place for him at that point in other words when we don't want to watch him that would be it would be more appropriate if his fuckery didn't really reflect on me personally and our people i work with we've decided that that that's yeah that's really what we're concerned with is that his stink doesn't rub off on us you know safety of other inmates we want him the fuck out of here we will because he's not right in the fucking head obviously so um yeah valerie the waitress said that uh in her opinion she said that maybe darlene

kind of her own kindness contributed to this because this was the way she was she was so kind that she didn't understand how these guys were she said that you know probably that uh you know she didn't have a chance to to him to leave her alone, maybe. You know what I mean? Because if she stopped by there, whatever, and it must have been a make-believe relationship in her head. And with the Valerie woman, she moved on. She said she went to college and she wanted to be a writer.

And she says, I don't expect to ever work as a waitress again. The thought of it makes me sick. He said, you know what? There are women working 60 hours a week, women who might have a baby to support, and women who don't ever get to go out. Honestly, if you go to a diner, fucking tip those people more than 20%.

Honestly, yeah. I look at it this way. I don't know. You can look at it however you want because you don't have to tip big, obviously, and people in other countries are like, what are you talking about? Right.

Here, waiters and waitresses don't get paid actual money from the job they get paid from us they don't have like a good salary like in european countries or some of them have good salaries but tip these people i look at it as if i can't afford to tip them then that's i add that i take that as part of the bill then i can't afford to go out so i stay home that's all you don't have to do the same thing but that's what what I do. So I don't mean you, Jimmy. And specifically, if you're very well taken care of, somebody just worked their ass off for you, fucking pay for that. What are you talking about? That's what I mean.

Do it up. Think about it. Think about what a diner kitchen is like. Think about gathering together that fat fuck's pot roast every goddamn day. You want to do that? No. goddamn day you want to do that no so uh darlene said or valerie said that darlene's death made her even more determined to build a career that isn't waiter at waitressing because she said there's plenty of nights where there was men waiting in the parking lot for her and uh who knows if one

of those would have killed her who knows so uh she said quote i've been a waitress i've been in her position i've been nice to men like that. So there you go. Janice ended up, her mom, Janice, ended up dying in 2018. So that was rough there. Darlene is buried in Kingston, New York there, and she's buried in a thing with her son. They have a tombstone together and all that kind of thing.

So, I mean, that's fucking horrible. Within a year, both of them. You don't expect that. You see, like, see like a 27 year old woman with her newborn baby you don't go well within a year both of you will be dead from separate things yeah you know that's not carbon monoxide wiping the house out or a car accident right that's the sadder part it's not one event that took both of them it's a terrible tragic two of them yeah oh my god her luck man poor darlene and her luck that's just the worst luck ever so anyway there you go that is new pulse new york i want to you're nice to be nice to your waitresses but not too fucking nice don't be creepy understand that they don't want to have sex with you they're just bringing you the pot rose and accept that as a nice thing except right someone being kind to have sex with you. They're just bringing you the pot roast. And accept that as a nice thing. Right.

Except someone being kind to you and bringing you food, even if you're paying for it, in a kind way, and having Spiro make it the way you want it, is a kind gesture and friendship enough. And you don't need to make it any weirder than that. You're literally paying $8 for her friendship. Where can you buy $8 sex, you sick fuck? You can't. Stop it sex you sick fuck you can't

stop it she likes you she knows you're single you come in every day in the pot roast she knows you're single she will write her number down on the check if she likes you i guarantee it if she doesn't then guess what leave her alone there you go let her shoot her shot don't you do it you sick bastard and that goes for women too because women were pervy as fuck i've been a waiter and i've had women are very aggressive like that too mainly like 50 year old drunk women are like come here sweetheart and they'll grab your ass you're like hey what the fuck lady like i've been divorced three times i'll touch any man i want you're like oh calm calm down but none of them were threatening uh you know i was never in fear of them bashing my head in with a hammer so i guess it's it's different so anyway there you go

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